Love

Monday – love day everywhere. How can you not feel romantic? I was moved to give Dorothy a big, juicy one this morning as I left for the office.

“Hey, don’t beak me,” she said, pushing back. And I realized I was wearing my K95. Thoughts of Bonnie Henry’s glory holes drifted though my head. What a twisted world we inhabit.

Then I heard from Jon. His note conjured up visions of when we were twentysomethings (about the time electricity was being invented).

“I’m 24 years old and know you from my parents who have read your blog for quite some time,” he writes. “I’ll get to the point…”

One year ago, my girlfriend and I moved in together. I’m going to graduate from trades school in another year and she works full time from home. Neither of us have tons of spare change to invest or stash away into retirement funds, but we’d like to get started soon and plan for a metaphorical doomsday. She’s from the country and is set on owning a house while I’d prefer to consider other options. Long story short, I’d like to introduce her to other and better alternatives than owning property in our City but I have no idea what they are and how to access them.

For folks under 30, what would you suggest to be the best course of action to start planning for the future?

My parents are constantly staring at the business channel and their investments; they pull their hair and make adjustments every day. Is there a way to invest in our future without having to take time away from enjoying life to pay close attention to the funny numbers on the screens? We’d love to avoid that… if it’s possible. We would both love to hear your input.”

No point pretending the prospects for two kids now in their 20s are similar to those of Boomers at the same age (five decades ago). There were three billion people then. Now eight. Most workers had corporate pensions of some kind, families could live on one income and people afforded houses. But competition for jobs was fierce, wages were low, nobody got paid to stay home and my first mortgage was 14%. No pandemic, Internet, climate change, mobile phones, Drake, email, TikTok and the Queen still looked kinda hot.

In 2022, all changed. If a pandemic can come along to bankrupt the government, cause civil insurrection, kill tens of thousands of Canadians, make real estate impossible and gas car prices then it seems anything can happen. So, is there a positive path forward? Like in the BeforeTimes, when parents were still frisky?

Yes. Of course.

To Jon & squeeze, the financial advice is simple. This is not a great time to buy real estate with historic prices, epic levels of FOMO, scant listings, new legislation pending and interest rates about to pop. Way too many unknowns to leap into leverage. If mortgage costs explode it would take only a modest market pullback to throw a young couple into negative equity – owing more than they own, and paying a huge premium over renting. That’s no way to start lives together.

You’re better off to save every cent and throw it into TFSAs. Not into RSPs, since that would be wasting tax-fighting contribution room in a time of low income. The tax-free account money can grow, it can be used if needed, and it can be replaced. Do it. And avoid the bad habits of your parents. Watching BNN is often fatal. Trying to be smarter than Mr. Market, flipping around between individual stocks is courting risk, creating stress and asking for heartache.

Instead, pick a few good growth-oriented, highly-liquid and low-cost ETFs and stick with ‘em. Never try to it a home run – meme stocks, crypto, whatever financial porn is on Reddit this week – since the odds are it will end in a strike-out. You cannot afford to lose money at this stage. Nor can you afford to burn your fingers and spend the rest of your life afraid of taking a chance.

Now, what did Dorothy and I do to carve out a future?

Sure, we started out thinking that being good, loyal and productive employees was the answer. I was a newspaper editor and writer. She a teacher. But one day we quit, sold everything (even the car plus my prized Fender amp and 12-string) and started a business. We had enough money to last eight weeks, and sufficient bravado not to care. We made choices that would colour the entire future. Our business was our life, 24/7. Employees always got paid, even when we did not. Real estate was set aside until we could afford it without being crippled. Rather than mortgage debt we opted for deductible business borrowing. After we achieved success, we monetized, collected the capital gains and started another enterprise.

Our decisions, it turns out, suited us. Entrepreneurs, not employees. Wedded not only to each other, but to working together. Being married and steady. Seamlessly weaving finances and destinies. Having a single plan, which took compromise and trust. Loads of that.

This may not work for you two, Jon, but our years together have been guided by just three rules. Whatever the circumstance, they applied. As long as we followed, they failed not.

Consolidate and simplify.
Be beholden to no one.
Honour each other.

About the picture: “Hi Garth, first the MSU,” writes Steve. “Been following you for 9 years and I rarely miss a post.  I don’t read the steerage section but when I feel like a chuckle I scan through them to find the ones that you comment on. This is Halle, our third Bernese, he’s 10 months old and 85 pounds.  He’s doing wonders to help our daughter (and family) hold things together through this pandemic.”

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#1 TurnerNation on 02.14.22 at 3:25 pm

Love during Wartime. Alllmost back to normal guys. Kanada with the War Measures err I mean Emergency Act.
What or what do the globalists have in mine for us – as we enter the third year of Global WW3.
What will this do to Foreign Investment? Who in their right mind would bet on this place.


Gee it’s not like there is a global script + timelines or anything:

.Dutch Cabinet: 3G pass and masks to be abandoned 25th February (nos.nl)
.DC rolling back mask and vaccine mandates (msn.com)
.Germany to end most covid restrictions in March (thelocal.de)
.End of Restrictions in ON March 31st ?Ontario (torontosun.com)
.Iceland Lifts Several National COVID-19 Rules Including Quarantine Requirements (schengenvisainfo.com)



Suspect timing. With battle lines drawn in many cities and border points. Setting the stage for what?
We are this close to having troops on the streets. My mind drifts back to that silly ‘leaked email’.

“Truck loaded with firearms stolen in Peterborough Sunday, police source says”
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/02/13/truck-loaded-with-firearms-stolen-in-peterborough-sunday-police-say.html

#2 Stormy Daniels on 02.14.22 at 3:25 pm

Happy love day to you, Garth.

Will I be hearing from you?

$130,000 would be a very sentimental and meaningful gift today.

(don’t send it to Michael, he’ll be in prison shortly)

#3 jimmy zhao on 02.14.22 at 3:27 pm

Have you bought back your Fender amp and 12-string ?
Do you have the time to play guitar ?

#4 Søren Angst on 02.14.22 at 3:27 pm

And…

Grateful for a life well lived and love, he decides to put back into society and life for what they gave him.

Greaterfool.

Now that’s a love story.

#5 meslippery on 02.14.22 at 3:33 pm

#71 Feb13
NeoLiberal Millennial on 02.13.22 at 4:13 pm

If you’ve been thinking of cashing out, how could this be a better moment?
– – –

I’ve long been thinking about it. With $400k in real estate equity and only in our mid 30s, it’s certainly tempting. But then what? Everything else is wildly inflated and rental options are virtually non-existent in small town Ontario. Is there something I’m missing?
————————–
Yes… small town prices seen reasonable.

https://www.drewloholdings.com/apartments-for-rent/cities/sarnia

#6 cramar on 02.14.22 at 3:34 pm

The “going to graduate from trades school” caught my attention.

Heard some successful American dude last week who started an organization to convince young people to skip university education to work in the skilled trades. In reality, if you really want to be an engineer then go for it, but if you don’t know what you want then just getting a degree may not be the best choice. He said four year university could cost you $50k/year so that is $200k. You could start earning $50k/year in trades so now you are $400k ahead after 4 years and well on your way to wealth.

My advice to Jon is to make a major goal in life to acquire wealth, not owning a house. You’ve got a good start, so don’t blow it on a house that you cannot afford under current condition. Unless you move to a small town and your trade involves renovation skills.

#7 Howard on 02.14.22 at 3:38 pm

GiveSendGo has been hacked and donor list distributed to left-wing reporters and social media personalities. They are in the process of doxxing donors to the Freedom Convoy.

Like the failed attempt to blackmail Spotify into censoring Joe Rogan, I suspect this will backfire. Although the convoy is winding down (in Canada, while it’s ramping it in the US), the leftist insults are no longer meeting their mark. In short, nobody cares what they have to say anymore. Expect more normies to come out of the closet in their opposition to leftist authoritarianism and woke anti-culture.

#8 beaner on 02.14.22 at 3:39 pm

who would sell their soul to work for you?

#9 Linda on 02.14.22 at 3:39 pm

Halle & his teddy – true love:)

Garth, I know you have always said to never buy RE with someone you are not in a relationship with, but I’m wondering if that might not be a possible solution. A group of ‘investors’ who purchase a plot of land large enough or an existing building so that they can secure shelter at a price point they can actually afford? Obviously there would have to be a well designed, legally binding contract to ensure a smooth outcome. The difference from the normal development such as a new condo or multi-family dwelling would be the elimination of the middle man, which presumably would eliminate the ‘for profit’ portion of the end price. I’m not saying it would be an easy thing to do, but it might be a way for young folks today to achieve their goal of home ownership without taking on a lifetime of debt.

#10 willworkforpickles on 02.14.22 at 3:42 pm

“For folks under 30, what would you suggest to be the best course of action to start planning for the future?”

……………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

I have a suggestion: Don’t rush into anything now. Not without an exhaustive study of all possible relevant points first. Then, proceed with the utmost of caution.

I can add this …. its market related for those who might be interested.

You , Individually , may know what’s right…what’s right right now and why its so, but the masses don’t.

There is way and where you can gauge market performance months ahead from now based on what it will do when they (the masses) finally catch up.

It’s a method philosophy i have learned (self taught) relating to getting started early, getting in early, buying low before the masses jump in so as to sell high later.
No big deal there…everybody knows that right?

What most don’t know is how its done.

There is one specific commodity that i won’t name off here yet that so perfectly fits this very mould its almost mind numbing.
Just needs a little more time yet for the perfect storm of circumstances, to, and are slated to, play out over the next few months, heralding in a mother of an entry point of entry points some readers here may already have an inkling of.
I won’t jump the gun in the meantime, but will after the time to load up (and i will have by then) comes.
Then, i can and will, give a detailed description to the max on it and for it referring back to this posted message today.

…or – as per usual…this message will self destruct in 5 seconds or less.

#11 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 3:45 pm

What’s the best thing about Switzerland?

I don’t know, but their flag is a big plus.

#12 I’m stupid on 02.14.22 at 3:46 pm

I’m 42 and I’m happy. Beautiful amazing wife 2 amazing kids, nice home (visually and emotionally) good income, good savings etc etc etc. I’m fortunate I’m thankful but I’m not 24. I can’t buy 24, I’m afraid that young people are squandering their youth worrying about the future too early. Live a little, you just finished trade school, as a tradesperson myself I’ll tell you that your body will hurt as you age. You should seek life experiences for the next 3-4 years. You’ll make all your money between 28-40 then begin to slow down as your body breaks down. Don’t work for others, learn everything you can until your 30 then strike out on your own. If you work with a journeyman that doesn’t teach you or holds you back quit. Join a union for benefits and pension your going to need it. You should be able to retire by 50 because you don’t know if your body will hold up after that. I’ve been under the knife 2 times already and I’m going to need to go again for my knees and my wrists.

That’s your future Jon so smile and live being 24!

#13 Faron on 02.14.22 at 3:49 pm

#223 Russ on 02.14.22 at 2:28 pm

I know dozens of people that have gone through C-19 but only have one first hand death. A relative who was unvaccinated, by choice, and with a number of co-morbidity, as in diabetes, hypertension & obesity.

Cheers, R

Wow bud, you are sharp.

So, lets say dozens means two dozen (people exaggerate, so that’s probably generous) you have witnessed a 4% mortality rate. That’s high! But, because the unfortunate person who died had the above conditions, it was okay. Is that because people who have any of the above don’t matter as much? Got it. Thanks for your insight Russ. Thanks for making it resoundingly clear that medical ethics are not your strong suit.

1/4 of Canadians are obese, 1/4 of Canadians have high blood pressure, at least 9% of Canadians have diabetes. If those aren’t a perfectly overlapping set of conditions (they aren’t) then you have more than 1/4 of Canadians in your disposable category. Pull your head out of your arse! Your argument sucks.

Or, to put a fine point on it, if your wife came down with a “co-morbidity”, you are telling us it would be okay that she died of COVID because she should have taken better care of herself? You are an ass.

#14 DonQuixote on 02.14.22 at 3:52 pm

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/FullText.html

Text of said Emergencies Act 1988

Interesting that feds can consult with provinces AFTER they have taken action…

And also interesting that everyth8ng that has been done so far, vaccine passports, restricting people from freely moving about the country, shutting down businesses, etc., was accomplished without even invoking this ‘extraordinary’ act.

As a Chinese Uber driver once remarked to me, Canada can do everything Chinese govt.can, just different set of paperwork

Happy Valentine’s Day

#15 Michael in-north-york on 02.14.22 at 3:55 pm

#206 Barb on 02.14.22 at 12:23 pm

#166
“Trudeau is going to lose.”
——————————
We can hope.
But…replaced by whom?
===

In a country of nearly 40 million, it should be possible to find one more person qualified to become the PM :)

The rest is guesswork, but I will take a chance:

It is possible that Trudeau resigns prior to the next elections, and that gives the Libs a chance to redefine themselves and win once more. He is not obligated to resign, but might choose to do so for the sake of his party. For all his other missteps, Trudeau is not a control freak.

If Trudeau still leads the Libs (into a loss), then Pierre Poilievre has a golden chance, assuming that he wins the nomination. Whether he can be a good PM is a separate matter (and he would face harsher challenges than many PMs before him), but he certainly can run a very strong campaign and win at least one term.

And finally, there is a chance of NDP plurality win, and a one-term NDP government supported by the remnants of Libs and by a few Green MPs. An NDP federal government would be unimaginable just a few years ago, but we are probably rolling into a period of challenges and wild public mood swings, and the boundaries of possible will be expanded.

#16 Nick on 02.14.22 at 4:00 pm

….and don’t forget to buy real estate in lower Brainland. Your valentine from country will appreciate the easy riches you will bring to her.

#17 T-Rev on 02.14.22 at 4:05 pm

You’re a good human being Garth Turner, and a lucky many to have Dorothy beside you on your journey. I am writing your three rules into a note for my better half- we decided about a year ago that those similar principles were what we needed to live by and since then have been in the consolidation and simplification phase. Sold everything we don’t need to live already. We’re sitting at about 90% of plan complete, just waiting for the house to sell. Already bought the downsize property and have been putting in evening and weekends for three months renovating. When the current place sells, we’re 40, debt free, maxed registered accounts, and beholden to no one. Then we’re going to enjoy the years we have left with our kids at home and our time with each other and family. Life is too short.

#18 ogdoad on 02.14.22 at 4:07 pm

oooh, Jon…to be 24 again. Man oh man. I’d start by smiling ear to ear at anything that walked…Always at the gym hottie…but that’s just me.

Question is, how much do you like your life right now? 24 yo? Get out there with yur sig. Have fun. Think about experiences instead of belongings like a ball-and-chain house or a rust-bucket Tesla…set a goal, like drink in every bar by 26, 3 virgins by 28, house by 35, first Mil. by 40.

I can help…so can hugging!!

Anyway, explicit details? Set the goals with yur sig. It’s called talking (against a pillow is riiiipe) – what can you afford every month? Who cares! Give it to a pro (family friend, or recommendation (not parents)). Don’t stop until goal dates are being impeded upon. Then re-evaluate.

I wonder what Angie the Millionaire would say on this topic? Seems prudent timing? Right, too busy in the mirror…

Keep’em coming G.

Og

#19 All lies and manipulated on 02.14.22 at 4:09 pm

Trudeau broke many laws.
twuckers bwoke some too. Boo hoo
Talk about disruption’s? 2 years of covid mandates. Killing business.
Give TN a call.

#20 The Other Side on 02.14.22 at 4:11 pm

rebelnews.com
A live, personal view not shown by legacy media

#21 drydock on 02.14.22 at 4:13 pm

https://youtu.be/c6fR_mp8gag

#22 Alberta Ed on 02.14.22 at 4:13 pm

I laughed when my father-in-law advised us to put aside even as little as $10 a week — that was dang near a fortune back then (we still had to walk across the room to change the TV channel). Took a while to realize how smart he was. We had some lean years, but eventually were able to start building a nest egg. Start investing as early as possible, and listen to Garth.

#23 FriedEggs on 02.14.22 at 4:16 pm

Atlas must shrug.

‘Hey, we did not force you.’ – A voice in the future.

#24 Howard on 02.14.22 at 4:20 pm

#13 Faron on 02.14.22 at 3:49 pm

I think the point is that people who don’t take care of their bodies – consume too much junk food, smoke, never exercise, etc – leave themselves at high risk to opportunistic infection. I didn’t realize this was considered controversial.

#25 Gb on 02.14.22 at 4:22 pm

Great to have you back Garth. This blog to me is an important part of my day. It’s gotten me through several financial upswings and downswings.

Keeps me grounded.

And I agree. My wife and I met in 1996…graduated together in 1997….consolidated all our debts and income…married in 1999.

People thought we were nuts consolidating everything but it’s the best way to build financial security as far as I can tell.

But ya…you’ve got to honour each other.

#26 Ian from Oshawa on 02.14.22 at 4:39 pm

GREAT advice on the TFSA’s!!

Wife and I sold our house downtown Oshawa for about twice what we paid for it. That left us with $45,600 each. We both slammed it in TFSA’s, BMO stocks with a DRIP (Dividend Return Investment Plan) and at time of writing, we both have $88, 045 now. Not sure what the future holds for us, but we have a lot of choices and we are liquid. Again, good advice!!

#27 Dave on 02.14.22 at 4:47 pm

Price of oil increases

War in Ukraine is days away.

Inflation will go sky high….will BOC stay the course snd increase rates?

#28 Tinpot Economist on 02.14.22 at 4:48 pm

Here is a website:

https://deanblundell.com/news/so-heres-the-givesendgo-donor-list/

#29 Barcino on 02.14.22 at 4:56 pm

Hi Garth,
how about making the comments section a donation section? Make it a $2 donation to be able to post? Or whatever amount you consider appropriate that could go to a good cause?
I think people with honest comments/questions wouldn’t mind paying and the usual suspects would be contributing to a good cause.
Thanx again for the blog and Happy V-day!

#30 Russ on 02.14.22 at 5:00 pm

Wow Faron.

Just wow, it is no wonder people don’t like you.

I offer observation and links to data so a person can draw their own conclusions and you bring assumptions on my behalf.

I will not say you are an idiot because we both know that is not true but you sure act like an imbecile.

BTW, current WW death rate is far less than half the 4% and with the reduced amount of testing I think a good guesstimate is that it be under 1.5% these days.
Try to keep up.

(link posted here previously)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#case-outcome

#31 Editrix on 02.14.22 at 5:02 pm

Two things, Garth:

Shouldn’t it be owing more than they own?

Also, you were able to save a heck of a lot of money by not having kids and having dogs instead.

#32 cuke and tomato pickere on 02.14.22 at 5:02 pm

WE SUPPORT THIS EMERGENCIES ACT.

#33 Bob in Hamilton on 02.14.22 at 5:12 pm

“Consolidate and simplify.
Be beholden to no one.
Honour each other.”

..this should be taught to every young person today.

Probably the wisest thing to be said on this blog in 13 years….

#34 dragonfly58 on 02.14.22 at 5:16 pm

Comment about many Trades being very hard on the body is right on. Some trades are less physically demanding than others . But many really wear out your Joints, lower back etc. I was a Auto Mechanic than a H.D. equipment mechanic then moved to very heavy, industrial plant Engineer / Engineering Tech. And a 24 / 7 setting for the last 30 years leading up to retirement.
I came away from it better than many, but lower back remains quite sensitive to positioning and how long I keep at normal jobs around the house, yardwork etc.

#35 Earlybird on 02.14.22 at 5:23 pm

Lol…the glory hole…forgot about that..too funny!
Glad your sense of humor has returned!

Tradesperson here too…find a good journeyman mentor and take good care of your body…utilize braces, support gear to fend of repetitive stress injuries. Your future self will thank you! Lots of freedom in the trades..
Also the power of time on invested money is unreal…unbelievable almost…

#36 George S on 02.14.22 at 5:25 pm

I think that the “freedom” protests aren’t really about a lack of freedom, everyone in Canada has more than enough freedom, even the protesters. They don’t have to get a vaccination if they don’t want to, they don’t have to wear a mask if they don’t want to. They can do anything they want to in Canada but there may be consequences such as being denied access to events and venues if they don’t meet the requirements to attend, just like they have consequences if they consume an intoxicant and drive a vehicle on public roads.

They are protesting because they think that they should have no consequences for their behaviour. I wonder how that is going to go.

I read that there are 227,000 truckers in Canada so this shouldn’t be called anything to do with truckers because the people in the protest don’t really represent allot even really some of the truckers in Canada and it gives truckers a bad name. They may not even be able to drive a truck after the protest is over because they will have their license suspended. Some of them may not even be able to enter the US after the vaccine mandate is lifted because they will be convicted felons.

#37 THE DANDADA on 02.14.22 at 5:47 pm

WE LOVE YOU GARTH!!!

#38 Cici on 02.14.22 at 5:51 pm

Happy Valentine’s Day to you both, Garth and Dorothy. And to Sinan, Doug and Ryan. And to all the blog dogs.

The last two years have been crazy, but we’ll all get through it together if we keep our hearts and minds open and stop letting certain powers that be divide us!

#39 Linda on 02.14.22 at 5:59 pm

What’s that saying? ‘If I’d known I would live this long I’d have taken better care of myself’. Lifestyle has an effect. Back in the grandparents day most folks were fit, could eat as much as they wanted & stay slim. But they also had physically demanding jobs which burned one heck of a lot of calories & their life expectancy was lower. I remember my grandparents looking ‘old’. Yes, I was a kid but the lifestyle took its toll physically. Most folks in their 70’s today look better than my grandparents did in their 50’s.

Regarding co-morbidities. Not everyone is blessed with good health to begin with. Heart disease, diabetes, kidney disease etc. doesn’t discriminate on the basis of age. Babies are literally born with nasty issues due to the roll of the genetic dice. And I’ve met more than one person over the years whose appearance would lead most to think they are healthy/fit, but whose medical reality is anything but.

#40 All lies and manipulated on 02.14.22 at 6:01 pm

#32 cuke and tomato pickere on 02.14.22 at 5:02 pm
WE SUPPORT THIS EMERGENCIES ACT.
====================
You should move to China.
Why, Because Canadians are so unruly you need a commie Gov at the helm.
Blind as a bat.
Super Bowl was great….Rules drop to make CASH.

#41 Pickled brain on 02.14.22 at 6:05 pm

#10 willworkforpickles on 02.14.22 at 3:42 pm

………..
There is one specific commodity that i won’t name off here yet that so perfectly fits this very mould its almost mind numbing.
Just needs a little more time yet for the perfect storm of circumstances, to, and are slated to, play out over the next few months, heralding in a mother of an entry point of entry points some readers here may already have an inkling of.
I won’t jump the gun in the meantime, but will after the time to load up (and i will have by then) comes.
Then, i can and will, give a detailed description to the max on it and for it referring back to this posted message today.

____________________

Toilet paper? Dang, I knew it!

#42 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.14.22 at 6:05 pm

Folks,
I declare the Pandemic to be over:
March 1st, 2002.
Truck protesters crawl back into the hole you came from.

#43 All lies and manipulated on 02.14.22 at 6:05 pm

I PAID $600 for 2 bullsht covid test for a 3 day visit to Bellingham and only going to a private home.
I havent been sick in 5 years.
#32 cuke and tomato pickere on 02.14.22 at 5:02 pm
WE SUPPORT THIS EMERGENCIES ACT.
Find another country if you want a dictator.
You have proven yourself over and over you are a passive Canadian Whimp.
Ya lets bring on military to your house.

#44 Lisa on 02.14.22 at 6:08 pm

Whoa Garth. That intro was way TMI!!

#45 KLNR on 02.14.22 at 6:09 pm

@#7 Howard on 02.14.22 at 3:38 pm
GiveSendGo has been hacked and donor list distributed to left-wing reporters and social media personalities. They are in the process of doxxing donors to the Freedom Convoy.

Like the failed attempt to blackmail Spotify into censoring Joe Rogan, I suspect this will backfire. Although the convoy is winding down (in Canada, while it’s ramping it in the US), the leftist insults are no longer meeting their mark. In short, nobody cares what they have to say anymore. Expect more normies to come out of the closet in their opposition to leftist authoritarianism and woke anti-culture.

nah, the silent majority doesn’t give a damn about the far right/lefts current temper tantrums.

#46 Dogman01 on 02.14.22 at 6:10 pm

Elect a Clown

Get a circus!

Peace, Order and Good Government …..Phhhtttt!

#47 Dogman01 on 02.14.22 at 6:10 pm

As a few posters pointed out yesterday; what we have going on is a “Class-War”.

Using a modified Joel Kotkin’s Neo- Feudalism model for Canada:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3XBFLMbdeM

Aristocracy – the families that own Canada.
Clerisy – Our Media, Academic class and senior corporate and Government Officials, “The Political Class”.
The Protected – Government Workers, Police, etc
Yeomanry – Working Middle Class, Small Business people (Truckers), people whom have to produce something or do something tangible to stay out of Serfdom
Serfs – Service Workers, Often Min Wage, Amazon, Uber, Grocery Stores etc.

Over the last forty years:
– Aristocracy – huge increase in proportional wealth and power. They want access to China and Global opportunities.
– The Clerisy – an aspirational class in full support of a Status Quo.
– The Protected – have grown significantly and generally a force for Status Quo. Gotta keep head down for 30+ years to get that pension.
– Yeomanry – shrinking and under threat of falling into Serfdom, in history always the dynamic force of change and social mobility.
– Serfs- exponentially growing, changing the character and values of our once Middle Class society. Precarious, dependant and pragmatic (they will own nothing and be happy).

Our Clerisy is leveraging Identity politics to distract from the decline of our Standard of Living , the general collapse of the Yeomanry and lack of upward mobility. The Protected Class is neutralized as they got it so good and the alternative is Serfdom. The Serfs, with no Unions and no Political Movement looking after their interests are kept busy with surviving and accept they have zero power. All the social causes are promoted (Identity Politics, Climate Change) to keep them distracted, divided and not contemplating why they can’t share in the defunct “Canadian Dream”. They truly will “Own Noting” and TPTB hope the Clerisy can do the job and keep them perceiving they are Happy.

Only the Yeomanry have the resources to pose any threat to this edifice and it is them, their economic position and their values that are now under coordinated assault.

40 years I have observed this trend, an incremental transition of Canadian society from Middle Class to a “World” Standard of living. In 20 years we will look more like a Brazil or India social structure than 1970’s Canada. That’s the plan as far as I can see.

#48 Billion dollar baby on 02.14.22 at 6:12 pm

#29 Barcino on 02.14.22 at 4:56 pm

Hi Garth,
how about making the comments section a donation section? Make it a $2 donation to be able to post? Or whatever amount you consider appropriate that could go to a good cause?
I think people with honest comments/questions wouldn’t mind paying and the usual suspects would be contributing to a good cause.
Thanx again for the blog and Happy V-day!

_____________________

Great idea.

Better yet, I will pay $2 every time TurnerNation makes a post … but it doesn’t get posted!

#49 oops on 02.14.22 at 6:15 pm

#13 Faron on 02.14.22 at 3:49 pm

I think I’ve said this before: “Time to take a break, son”

#50 All lies and manipulated on 02.14.22 at 6:17 pm

#36 George S on 02.14.22 at 5:25 pm
======================
Yes ya sure. Vax is an option?
Why don’t you research the amount of money T2 paid for Ads alone.
100s of millions.
You could have built mega housing on that pissed away money alone.
Now we got a new one get you child vaxed? Not my kid…Were the concrete proof of anything.
You have a complete lie idiot running the show.
That’s the issue

#51 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.14.22 at 6:18 pm

It’s getting pretty obvious that Ukraine is playing both sides.
How often has the White House announced that Russia could invade any time, during the last month?
Obviously, Putin is a poor strategist if he would announce the exact date and hour of the attack.
I watched a lot of Hollywood war movies.
The best time to attack is during the early hour when the opponent is sleeping off the previous nights celebration.
You don’t have to be a 5star General to know that.

#52 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 6:25 pm

O, the foolishness here.

My 25yo nephew has been working with the Minnesota DOT for 1.5 years, currently earning around $62k, and he and wife just bought a place near Duluth on 5 acres for $279k. Similar to this one, but not this one:

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/3790-Munger-Shaw-Rd_Duluth_MN_55810_M74319-66726

And yes, his employment covers health insurance and pension and the full package of state benefits.

The youthful wife is not currently working and may or may not decide to stay home and make babies. Because, why not? One salary is plenty.

#53 miketheengineer on 02.14.22 at 6:27 pm

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#54 VladTor on 02.14.22 at 6:32 pm

Dear Garth,
You give great advice to a young family… but this is not enough. Young people expect to receive not only advice but also some rule. Here is mine – save 30% of earnings after taxes from each salary. This is untouchable money. Remember – after EACH SALARY, EVERY MONTH . This is important. You can put them in TFSA like Garth telling here. Remember – first save 30% and then what is left can be spent. Remember 30% is the minimum. If you are sufficiently disciplined then you can safe more.

#55 Faron on 02.14.22 at 6:32 pm

#30 Russ on 02.14.22 at 5:00 pm

You got swatted for bringing up the inane co-morbidities “argument” that I view as the realm of less respectable commenters than yourself. It’s crap and you should know better. Just as those who minimize COVID’s impacts by saying “COVID mostly kills old people” should know better. The death rate amongst your known peers was 4% unless you can give a better number for what “dozens” means.

Importantly COVID is and has always been about health outcomes other than but including death. Masks, at the very least, should stick around until we are certain that “mild” variants (maybe check the hosp/death stats to see if Omicron was actually “mild”) don’t cause long COVID at any substantial rate.

It’s becoming clearer that long COVIDers (1/3 to 1/2 of people who have had COVID) have a much greater risk of cardiovascular disease among a large swath of neurological outcomes. The long-term impacts to health are already massive and if we just let-er-rip, it will get much much worse.

Finally, if restrictions come off it needs to be made very clear that they will come back on if a severe variant presents itself. Here’s hoping we are done with this, but it’s too early to tell.

#56 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.14.22 at 6:37 pm

#37
Further more:
Just watched a headline on a major Network.
“Russia could launch an attack anytime, with out a warning”.
They can’t do that can they.?
The Americans are expecting fair play like:
Mr. Biden this is to inform you that the glorious Russian Army will invade the Ukraine tomorrow at 6:am
Moscow time.
Please do not help the Ukrainian resistance.
Sincerely Yours
Wladimir Putin

#57 Faron on 02.14.22 at 6:38 pm

#24 Howard on 02.14.22 at 4:20 pm

#13 Faron on 02.14.22 at 3:49 pm

It’s naive and idiotic. Hint: not all of those issues are preventable. Hint: by playing this game you are throwing at least 8 million Canadians under the bus because they “didn’t take care of themselves”. These could be your friends, your parents, your kids, your cousins etc. etc. etc. That’s utter crap and mind boggling that you and Russ and however many others can’t see it. Those making this claim had better be fit. Chances are you aren’t. Chances are you don’t even know what that means.

#58 HH on 02.14.22 at 6:39 pm

I guess you could say I am a data person. I have financial records from way back including income tax records. On Oct 1, 1988 I had a $52,685 mortgage at
10 1/4 %. My monthly pmt was $481 with $31.07 going toward the principal. Then one year later the interest rate increased to 12 3/4 %. Monthly pmt is now $591 with $35.80 going toward the principal. At that time Grant Devine’s Conservative party in Sask capped our mortgage rate to 9 3/4 % (mort protection plan) and his government gave me back the difference. By Sept 1, 1990 mortgage rates went to 14 1/4 %. By 1996 they were 6.95 %.

#59 Emma Zaun - GreaterFool Unpaid Intern #007 on 02.14.22 at 6:43 pm

“Employees always got paid, even when we did not.”

What a load of complete BS, Mr. Turner!

WE bust our butts here dealing with all these deplorables, and YOU give us nothing of value at any time.

Then, you take off for a weeklong self-indulgent getaway to a warm spot, and don’t even think of giving us even a day off (let alone a similar sunny vacation for ourselves) while we have to put up with Sinan and Ryan and Doug all week.

WE ARE FILING GRIEVANCES.

Emma Zaun
Shop Steward
CUPE (Canadian Union of Peelers and Exhibitionists)

#60 Nonplused on 02.14.22 at 6:44 pm

My son, who is barely 16 and in grade 10, is taking a mandatory career planning course at school. To get credits, he has to at the end of the course produce a career plan that includes which post secondary institute he plans to attend in pursuit of which career. This was causing him a lot of stress. So I told him to just pick “UofC” and “Engineering”. “But I don’t know if that’s what I want to do”, says he. “Well, everyone else is going to have to lie to pass the course too”, says I. I mean there may be the odd kid out there who can plan out his/her/they/zee’s whole career at 16, but not many. Most of us have to play that tune by ear.

It seems wherever you turn these days our institutions are playing up one ridiculous mandate after another. It is time for these institutions to be told firmly that they exist to serve the people, not control them.

#61 jimmy zhao on 02.14.22 at 6:48 pm

When ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ are essentially Fortune Tellers.
Here we are, now living under Martial Law.

#62 Satori on 02.14.22 at 6:57 pm

FOMO is rampant… Pretty soon 12 year olds will be writing in about their worries about home ownership. The ‘crowning glory’ of a life well spent is in Canada is home ownership.

And coming up with ideas that people should get together to buy a home as a ‘group’??? Madness. There is absolutely MORE to life than paying off a huge mortgage. Is this what we are teaching our children? Does anyone have fun anymore?

Life is an Adventure…. has become Life is Home Ownership, then you die.

#63 Faron on 02.14.22 at 6:58 pm

#28 Tinpot Economist on 02.14.22 at 4:48 pm

Here is a website:

https://deanblundell.com/news/so-heres-the-givesendgo-donor-list/

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While I don’t condone hacking, I find this pretty hilarious. Hope I can get my hands on a copy to see if any commenters here donated. I wont tell, promise.

#64 Lord Garth of Izar on 02.14.22 at 6:59 pm

The Caucasian Convoy donation site was hacked. Mostly Americans interfering with democracy in Canada.

Comments are pretty funny. All names, email, donation amount, zip code and country listed.

Find the list here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220214031301/https://givesendgone.wtf/convoy_donations.zip

#65 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 7:04 pm

#51 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.14.22 at 6:18 pm

It’s getting pretty obvious that Ukraine is playing both sides.

How often has the White House announced that Russia could invade any time, during the last month?

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Oh, Vlad and the Ukraine high command are definitely splitting the billion$ in donations while snorfling caviar.

#66 Satori on 02.14.22 at 7:05 pm

I would rather be a fox without a tail than carry the traps of home ownership and debt behind me.

Rent is still lower than most people’s strata fees+insurance+taxes combined. Let’s not forget the upkeep costs and the extra surprise add-ons, like new roofing, leaking condo, window replacement ‘extras’.

#67 Reality Check on 02.14.22 at 7:09 pm

I PAID $600 for 2 bullsht covid test for a 3 day visit to Bellingham
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Seriously if you really paid $600 for 2 tests you got hosed.

Next time shop around, there’s this thing called Google that you can use. I recently got my “return to a Canada” covid test for free at Walgreens Pharmacy.

#68 IHCTD9 on 02.14.22 at 7:15 pm

I look back at what Ms. IH and I have done to get where we are today. That being the standard issue Canadian dream. House, kids, a decent retirement, a few toys, no debt, etc… It’s cliché as heck. Live within your means, save and invest for a long time, avoid debt. There’s more to it, but that’s the framework. How you get it done is your call. Boring, but it works.

#69 Barb on 02.14.22 at 7:18 pm

So nice that Halle has his own fav squeeze, Steve.

“Consolidate and simplify.
Be beholden to no one.
Honour each other.”

Hubs and I got the last two correct.
But the first one was never learned.
We both worked our socks off throughout, first with farming, then each with a business once we killed the orchard. Neither paid well enough to satisfy us, but we managed to put money away nevertheless. In the ensuing 45 years, presto, our home is worth a bundle. Actually sold 3 times last year: the first bailed when Horgen closed the BC/AB border in April, the second took 3+ months to decide her plan for the acreage wasn’t going to fly. The third? WE bailed…where would we go? Besides he was the biggest imbecile either of us have ever met, and we were peeved at two pages of stoooooopid conditions. We refused to counter. Realtor mad, understandably.

Our addition to Garth’s list would be:
“Have short and long-term goals (shared)”

And stay married.

#70 Howard on 02.14.22 at 7:24 pm

#57 Faron on 02.14.22 at 6:38 pm
#24 Howard on 02.14.22 at 4:20 pm

#13 Faron on 02.14.22 at 3:49 pm

It’s naive and idiotic. Hint: not all of those issues are preventable. Hint: by playing this game you are throwing at least 8 million Canadians under the bus because they “didn’t take care of themselves”. These could be your friends, your parents, your kids, your cousins etc. etc. etc. That’s utter crap and mind boggling that you and Russ and however many others can’t see it. Those making this claim had better be fit. Chances are you aren’t. Chances are you don’t even know what that means.

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Obesity, smoking (!), and lack of exercise are not preventable? Guzzling pop and scarfing doughnuts leading to Type 2 diabetes is an inherited condition now? That’s an awfully fatalistic view of yours to think that healthy habits cannot help prevent opportunistic infection. I was clearly NOT referring to inherited conditions completely beyond one’s control that can similarly leave people vulnerable, such as Type 1 diabetes or asthma. Those individuals should be the top priority of any health system.

#71 Sheesh on 02.14.22 at 7:25 pm

#61 jimmy zhao on 02.14.22 at 6:48 pm

Settle down drama queen, it’s not martial law.

#72 crowdedelevatorfartz on 02.14.22 at 7:34 pm

@ Prehistoric Ponzie
“Folks,
I declare the Pandemic to be over:
March 1st, 2002.”

+++
As usual .
Ponzerrelli is 20 years behind the times.

#73 Ed on 02.14.22 at 7:34 pm

Pretty happy to still be down here in merica rather than the steaming pile of martial law the chief idiot invoked today.

#74 Abhishek on 02.14.22 at 7:36 pm

You will own nothing and be happy, while the elite buy up all the farmland and natural resources.

#75 TurnerNation on 02.14.22 at 7:40 pm

#48 Billion dollar baby on 02.14.22 at 6:12 pm

haha you might get $2-4 each year. I post sobar remember? No bozzing. This is a serious financial weblog.

Now you’ll know why I call it Kommunist Kanada. Each day more of the plan is being revealed.

The more time passes the less crazy the Internet Consp. Theorists appear.

The provinces are loosening their control measures, as it’s moving all to Federal. Welcome to the New System, since March 2020. It’s permanent. Every remaining leader is on board.
All future lockdowns will be electronic. Not a finger lifted. Non-compliance will entail revocation of your QR code; freeze of bank account, loss of job, and so on. All over ThoughCrimes
“You will own nothing and be happy.”

— History buffs state: How do World Wars end? Why with a new monetary system

#76 Faron on 02.14.22 at 8:01 pm

#63 Faron on 02.14.22 at 6:58 pm

#28 Tinpot Economist on 02.14.22 at 4:48 pm

~36,000 Canadians donated
~51,000 Americans.

This makes sense because 51,000 is about the number of Americans who could find Ottawa on a map. And the US so often cares deeply about what happens up here.

I wonder who is pocketing all of this money ($8.4 M)?

#77 Faron on 02.14.22 at 8:13 pm

#70 Howard on 02.14.22 at 7:24 pm
#57 Faron on 02.14.22 at 6:38 pm
#24 Howard on 02.14.22 at 4:20 pm
#13 Faron on 02.14.22 at 3:49 pm

I’m poking holes in your and Russ’ and James’ idea that if people meet certain poor-health criteria then we get to stop planning for those people WRT COVID. It’s utter garbage and that’s why no one credible in public health would ever ask for it to be the case.

As soon as you embark down the path of caring less about the fate of a group because of their “choices” then you will soon find yourself in a quagmire.

How fat does someone need to be before you stop caring if they die of COVID? What if it’s not heritable diabetes, but a heritable pre-condition that was made worse by a slightly less than perfect diet? What if they had high blood pressure because they like red wine a bit much but are otherwise healthy?

Tell us. Tell us now because you are asking that a strict set of criteria be met before we give a rat’s arse about a COVID death (probably any death for that matter). You seem to know exactly what that criteria is in this grave matter, so you should do us a solid and tell us now.

Organic food? Quinoa for breakfast? Keto? Subway? We are literally dying to know. I sure hope you have never eaten a second handful of chips or accidentally had a 16oz coke on a hot day because that seems less than perfect to me and, by your insane criteria, maybe that means we should discount your death.

#78 yvr_lurker on 02.14.22 at 8:13 pm

#55 Faron
Finally, if restrictions come off it needs to be made very clear that they will come back on if a severe variant presents itself. Here’s hoping we are done with this, but it’s too early to tell.

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This I agree with. There is zero point in my view of requiring expensive PCR tests at this stage at the border when we are only dealing with omicron primarily. If Omicron+++ on steroids emerges, put the controls back to give us a hard start to deal with it.

I would go farther at this stage. Need to start unraveling the restrictions and no more vaccine mandates, as the definition of what is “fully vaxed” is a moving target. Keep the mandates on doctors, nurses, LTC providers, but don’t expand to every other group. The Gov’t needs to back off, but in a measured way, until Omicron+++ arrives (if it does… this is the random element).

#79 dragonfly58 on 02.14.22 at 8:17 pm

After the Truckers repelled wave after wave of OPP Riot police what choice did Justin really have ?

Jay walking and parking tickets to Full, Canada wide, National Emergency in one quick move ?
What ever happened to the concept of a measured and appropriate response ?

#80 Faron on 02.14.22 at 8:30 pm

#78 yvr_lurker on 02.14.22 at 8:13 pm

Yeah, I’ve read comments from doctors that we need to start treating COVID like the weather. Raining? Wear rain gear. COVID outbreak? Slow it down. Deadly variant? Pull out the stops.

And a little foresight. All changes both in imposing mandates and lifting them have been too late and tended to pretend as if we don’t already know how to project infections. Declining Omicron and no variant on the horizon? Gradual opening up. I’ll still be wearing my mask indoors and in crowds. But, I’m not going to be opting out of pre-COVID activities any longer until the next variant.

#81 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 8:32 pm

#73 Ed on 02.14.22 at 7:34 pm

Pretty happy to still be down here in merica rather than the steaming pile of martial law the chief idiot invoked today

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Yep. Parachute packed and ready. Trust not thine government say the Venezuelans in hindsight.

#82 crowdedelevatorfartz on 02.14.22 at 8:34 pm

@#73 Ed
“Pretty happy to still be down here in merica rather than the steaming pile of martial law the chief idiot invoked today.”

+++
I was busy today at work.
I hadn’t realized “Little Potato” had invoked the Emergency Measures Act.

Does he or his handlers have even one original idea in their bags of public relations tricks?
Pathetic.
Smoke and mirrors.

I’ll predict this too little too late stunt will send him deeper in the polls.
:)

#83 Quintilian on 02.14.22 at 8:55 pm

#82 crowdedelevatorfartz

“I hadn’t realized “Little Potato” had invoked the Emergency Measures Act”

He did the right thing.

And has shown more fortitude than the wimpy fence sitting Cons.

#84 yvr_lurker on 02.14.22 at 8:57 pm

#80 But, I’m not going to be opting out of pre-COVID activities any longer until the next variant.
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I agree. We are heading to Tulum for spring break, as it is probably the last time my 17 year old will travel with us before he goes to University next year. I am not going to pass up on this experience. Dealt with COVID in our house in mid-January and all was a bit wobbly but okay. First international trip since 2019.

People need to live and reclaim their lives at this stage, but of course I am wearing a mask still for awhile yet and don’t plan to go clubbing in Cancun (especially at my age).

Trudeau needs to focus on high inflation, housing inaffordability, and issues of real concern to the average citizen. Don’t see much if anything in that direction from him.

#85 Canadian Patriot on 02.14.22 at 8:58 pm

@#73 Ed on 02.14.22 at 7:34 pm
Pretty happy to still be down here in merica rather than the steaming pile of martial law the chief idiot invoked today.

we’re also pretty happy you’re still down there.

#86 Faron on 02.14.22 at 9:06 pm

#73 Ed on 02.14.22 at 7:34 pm

Pretty happy to still be down here in merica rather than the steaming pile of martial law the chief idiot invoked today.

Oh, don’t worry, some of your freddumb loving buds almost made it across the border to help out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLmOlFhWQAkaf_D?format=jpg&name=4096×4096

I especially like the XXXL flak jacket in the lower right. Maybe Howard can fill us in on whether we should care about their eventual COVID passing.

The machete is a nice touch. Probably for hacking through the well known thickets of the Albertan prairies?

Best familiarize yourself with the rise of the militant far-right. Boogaloo Bois among others. Maybe have a look at the rates of weapons theft from the US military. Probably Canada too. Then listen to this podcast about such groups in Germany.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/podcasts/far-right-german-extremism.html

Trudeau is 100% correct to slap FINTRAC on these sites before something crappy happens. Things like January 6th in the US last year aren’t going to be getting better unless governments treat those actions as the threats they are.

#87 DON on 02.14.22 at 9:16 pm

#83 DON on 02.14.22 at 9:00 pm
#51 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.14.22 at 6:18 pm
It’s getting pretty obvious that Ukraine is playing both sides.
How often has the White House announced that Russia could invade any time, during the last month?
Obviously, Putin is a poor strategist if he would announce the exact date and hour of the attack.
I watched a lot of Hollywood war movies.
The best time to attack is during the early hour when the opponent is sleeping off the previous nights celebration.
You don’t have to be a 5star General to know that.

**********

Exactly…the former comedian now leader says Russia will attack on Wednesday. Not sure who leaked it to him? We do have children running the World or so it seems.

#88 Knee fix on 02.14.22 at 9:24 pm

#12 I’m stupid on 02.14.22 at 3:46 pm
… I’m going to need to go again for my knees and my wrists.

That’s your future Jon so smile and live being 24!

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To fix your knees, you need to check out kneesovertoes on youtube. I have been doing the recommended exercises for a few months now and my knees have never felt better! Start with 5 minutes of sled pulls and use enough weight to make it challenging without it being too difficult.

#89 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.14.22 at 9:27 pm

#65 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 7:04 pm
#51 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.14.22 at 6:18 pm

It’s getting pretty obvious that Ukraine is playing both sides.

How often has the White House announced that Russia could invade any time, during the last month?

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Oh, Vlad and the Ukraine high command are definitely splitting the billion$ in donations while snorfling caviar.
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And are taking apart the weapons that were sent.
That’s why Germany only sent helmets.

#90 mik from mtl on 02.14.22 at 9:28 pm

#77 Faron on 02.14.22 at 8:13 pm
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Respectfully: shut the f-up.

Our single payer communist healthcare payer system is not sustainable. Yes in the 1970s it sort of workable, today is a total disaster.

Nobody disputes that we’re woefully underfunded, thing is T2 is playing into these existing issues.

Today is a sad day for freedoms and democracies but who cares about that T2 speaks for us all apparently?

#91 DON on 02.14.22 at 9:29 pm

Faron…easy goes it on Russ. He’s a good egg.

Faron on the left and Howard on the right. This should be interesting.

The trucker movement was hardly any truckers…the majority of truckers were still working. Donations coming from the conservative nutbars to the South? On the other side of the border Homeland Security is standing by.

Besides the price of gas is going up accross the US and Canada…soon you will hear from the silent majority. All these side shows do take people’s minds of the day to day grinding price increases.

#92 Loonie Cad on 02.14.22 at 9:33 pm

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/n-b-business-owner-says-225511741.html

PM Trudeau should take back the Canada Emergency Wage Subsidy money given to Mr. Howland, Easy-Kleen. He certainly don’t need or deserve it. Likewise, those on the donation’s list.

#93 T2 or bust on 02.14.22 at 9:34 pm

T2 has created a civil war.

In Canada.

That is like managing to get a turtle to fight with a bunny rabbit.

It’s like making gun powder out of fluffy bath balls and fruit juice.

It’s like managing to fully cook a turkey in your freezer.

The Americans must be just loving this.

With our MSM piping on about how close the USA is to total collapse and chaos.

And then bunny boy “protesters please go home this is not fun anymore” Mr. Socks selfie starts a civil war by picking a fight with a bunch of rural truckers.

And they say life is predictable……

#94 crowdedelevatorfartz on 02.14.22 at 9:34 pm

@#83 Quirky
“And has shown more fortitude ….”

++++

When has he shown his spine?
His non existence at the beginning of the protests was worthy of a patent for Invisibility.
His endless waffling over the past three weeks was almost as amusing as his threats which scared no one.

Now?
When the braying, anthem warbling donkeys were almost down the road….. he kicks the hornets nest again.
Well done.

Lets see how his dithering and stuttering looks in the polls….

#95 Dave on 02.14.22 at 9:52 pm

24, save up some cash then take a year or two off and go travel the world on a shoe string. You’ve got plenty of time to eventually get a career and “play house”… or maybe you’ll realize while traveling that there’s a lot more to life than this.

#96 Ustabe on 02.14.22 at 10:04 pm

I must admit I am more than a bit surprised at how many posters here in steerage seem to be entirely comfortable with Putin, see no issue with what is happening to the GOP in the US and seemingly have no ability to make clear distinction between Federal and Provincial powers.

But still able to comment on the Emergency Measures Act despite obviously never having read or parsed it.

I guess you all are comfortable with foreign money entering Canada and influencing our political process.

Far too many of you seem comfortable overlooking who is really behind the Trucker Temper Tantrum so you can cram your support into your world view. Intellectually specious.

We are finding out who is and isn’t truly Canadian. This echo chamber isn’t even close to what Canadian want.

#81 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 8:32 pm…the sentiment contained in your comment at #81 disgusts me…you spend a lot of words telling us how much better it is down there, why are you still here?

#97 Doug t on 02.14.22 at 10:14 pm

Did you see T2’s hair on the news ? What the heck ? Starting to look like Mr. Potato Head

#98 Patrician on 02.14.22 at 10:35 pm

The Canadian Civilian Liberties Association just came out against the government’s actions today. That signals that there isn’t a broad consensus in the House for invoking the Act. I imagine the government knows this and hope they that they can roll up the protest within the next 7 days and stall the vote in the House and Senate until the very last minute.

The Act will be voted down, the government will get a mild rap of the knuckles and they’ll hope everybody will forget about it in three weeks with war looming in Europe. There is only one word for this, despicable.

The act is already law. It doesn’t go to a vote. – Garth

#99 prairiegal on 02.14.22 at 11:11 pm

Thank you Garth. For everything. Honour each other – best life advice ever. Happy Valentine’s Day to you and Dorothy.

#100 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 11:24 pm

#96 Ustabe on 02.14.22 at 10:04 pm

#81 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 8:32 pm…the sentiment contained in your comment at #81 disgusts me…you spend a lot of words telling us how much better it is down there, why are you still here?

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Oh my. Crushing. And here my overriding goal in life is your approval.

Hey, here’s my best recipe:

One slice baloney in hot pan, crisp each side for 20 seconds. Remove. Add a pat of butter to pan, place two slices of white wonderbread on butter. Hold down for a few seconds each side until crisp. Slather mayo, add chunk of iceberg lettuce, slice diagonally. Your taste sensation awaits.

It’s best enjoyed with a glass of cold milk, in the presence of tourist art. Preferably expensive whale murals.

#101 cuke and tomato picker on 02.14.22 at 11:32 pm

Our Prime Minister had to do SOMETHING DISTURB THE DISTUBERS.

#102 kommykim on 02.14.22 at 11:43 pm

Apparently the glory hole advice is still there along with other amusing tips:

http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/prevention-risks/covid-19-and-sex

#103 Joseph R. on 02.15.22 at 12:01 am

#93 T2 or bust on 02.14.22 at 9:34 pm

There is no civil war.

The Federal Government was called in because the municipal and provincial law enforcement agencies have failed at their duty to upload the court’s injunction and at maintaining the peace for the resident of Ottawa.

Truckers are currently delivering all kinds of goods throughout the country. As such, The “protesters” in Ottawa aren’t truckers. Also, they aren’t rural as truckers travel from city to city.

#98 Patrician on 02.14.22 at 10:35 pm
The Canadian Civilian Liberties Association just came out against the government’s actions today.

There is nothing on their site about it. Where did you see their announcement?

#104 Wow on 02.15.22 at 12:22 am

This comment section is full of idiots.

#105 fishman on 02.15.22 at 12:38 am

Canada released projected immigration target for 022-023-024 at 1,410,000. TFW’s, 560,000 if kept at same level of 180,000/year. Same with foreign students at 180,000/year. I’d guess minimum 500,000 illegals in this three years. Probably double or quadruple that if the MAGA crowd gets back in & starts deporting. It could be millions if things become really unglued. Ten year visas? I have no idea, but lots. Most are family that stay with relatives. Lets say between 2 1/2 to 4 1/2 million new,mostly adults in Canada 36 months from now. You sure you want to cash out on all your R/E? I’d say scale down & grab some cash ok. At least buy a pad in some white trailer trash court. Throw in stagflation combined with a populist/elite politically destabilizing low grade war. The bands tuning up to play musical chairs. Time to strap a stool to your ass.

#106 ChickensComingHomeToRoost on 02.15.22 at 12:42 am

It’s absolutely hilarious that the man who declared us a ‘post-national’ state is worried about ‘foreign’ money. How can you even define something as foreign when you have no borders and import 400,000 foreigners a year?

Freeland, Trudeau, Butts and Carney all work for globalist institutions and yet now they worry about being a nation. What a mess and they have only themselves to blame. Coherency and logic are forgotten when all you care about is gaining power. What a foolish and despicable group.

#107 Ustabe on 02.15.22 at 1:24 am

#100 Sail Away on 02.14.22 at 11:24 pm

Do you take your bologna sandwiches with you when you sleep in your Tesla?

And I know my posting links triggers you so I’ll just point you to the GAO.gov site (Government Accountability Office) where you will find that of the 42 million jobs created in the US since 1989 fully 40 million or 95% of those have been under Democrat Presidents.

Tune in tomorrow for more fun facts about the USA.

Hey, did you hear the US bobsled team pasted a picture of Trump on the front of their sled? Do you want to know why?

#108 willworkforpickles on 02.15.22 at 3:22 am

We have a bubble economy built on debt, not on real growth.

Our artificial producing economy doesn’t have a hope in hell of getting out and away from debt. And national debt that has become unsustainable these past couple of years.
All our governments can do now is try to avoid default. They do that by paying the interest on the national debt to keep from going delinquent and there is no alternative but to borrow more money.
This artificial economy has been built on a dozen years of government debt creation and the only way to get more money into the system is through borrowing.

This borrowing continues to pump up the artificial bubble economy no longer making ends meet from the returns of sustained growth and has descended into a viscous circle only relieved by more of it.
Much more of it.
The government operates not unlike any pyramid scheme.
In order to stay alive – debt has to grow, and the only way it can grow is to cannibalize and destabilize itself further. The more it grows the more and faster it has to grow, and the more unstable it becomes.
But its artificial debt fueled growth, not real sustainable growth.

That brings us to inflation borne out of massive debt creation through negative interest rates and unprecedented circumstance never seen before.

There is no Fed fix, just games now.
We are headed for massive inflation followed by structural stagflation. A bubble economy of artificial high inflationary growth and real unemployment far exceeding official rates with jobs going begging to be filled left unfilled.

Many want to know what’s ahead, what they should do, how they should prepare.

Those only marginally set who don’t prepare for massive unrelenting inflation will do very badly.

All this barely touches on just how badly the Fed has screwed up with interest rates and will continue to do so. That’s another chapter , part and parcel but relevant.

#109 Murray Lightle on 02.15.22 at 4:12 am

“The act is already law. It doesn’t go to a vote.” – Garth

Interesting, the actual act says different.
Also, a mandatory review. Maybe some more drama, yet to come. Maybe the NDP will not agree to play along.

“Once a national emergency is declared, a motion for confirmation of a declaration of emergency must be tabled in the Senate and House of Commons within seven days. If either chamber is prorogued or in recess, its members must be recalled. If both chambers adopt the motion, the declared emergency remains in place for 30 days, unless renewed again by Parliament. Additionally, a Parliamentary Review Committee with representation from each recognized party must be formed. Within 60 days of the expiration of the emergency, the law requires the government to convene an inquiry, and table a report in Parliament within 360 days following its expiration.”

#110 G on 02.15.22 at 4:13 am

I’m going to take my cash out of my bank in the morning before PMT decides he doesn’t like what I think and steals it from me too!

#111 ElizaNL on 02.15.22 at 4:25 am

There may be some unintended consequences. Fully expect to see queues at some smalltown prairie banks tomorrow.

#112 Joe Lalonde on 02.15.22 at 4:31 am

Trudeau initiated ‘The Bouncy Castles Insurrection’ by strictly following the Obama Administration. Let’s not kid yourself in who’s actually running this shit show.
On one side, we have bankers, professional politicians(not utilizing actual professionals) and mainstream media with their fake experts vs The People with expertise in a multitude of areas being slowly outlawed by restrictions, regulations and laws.
The Truckers Convoy will actually listen and act accordingly to the many actual experts among it’s ranks. Don’t fool yourself, they are well organized. The Mainstream Media’s reports gives them clues in what our governments up to. They have no guns and purely want a peaceful revolution.
Interesting times as they pull out, observing and redeployment in a different location as trained by their experiences and expertise into different supply choke holds.

#113 Sail Away on 02.15.22 at 6:06 am

I eagerly await the coming days. If the emergencies act does not clear the protests, and it might not: the kids are still in the trucks after all, T2 will be well and truly neutered.

That, of course, would not bode well for the country if protests can bring anything even slightly controversial to a standstill.

So, I have to hope it succeeds, even if it is the equivalent of nuclear bombing a slapfight where nobody is actually fighting. But, man, it would be hilarious if it failed.

#114 Howard on 02.15.22 at 6:16 am

#77 Faron on 02.14.22 at 8:13 pm

You don’t become morbidly obese due to a “slightly less than perfect diet”.

“Organic food? Quinoa for breakfast? Keto? Subway? We are literally dying to know.”

There are many diet plans with merit. Keto most definitely. But the most important thing is simply this: cut out refined sugar completely, and significantly reduce whole foods that are high in sugar including fruit (berries are ok, lemons and cantaloupe too, as they have relatively low sugar content). Some go even further and cut carbs altogether, but that’s unrealistic for most people. Eliminate the sugar and exercise regularly and you’re most of the way there.

#115 Sail Away on 02.15.22 at 6:50 am

In good news:

1. UN to Elon Musk: If you donate $6B, it will end world hunger.
2. Elon: Give me your plan to review
3. UN submits plan
4. Elon donates $5.7B; solves world hunger

#116 Howard on 02.15.22 at 7:27 am

#105 fishman on 02.15.22 at 12:38 am

In 2019 there were 642,000 foreign students in Canada. That number obviously dipped in 2020, rebounded 2021 but not to 2019 levels.

This is why I don’t get the angst about so many bachelors and small 1-bdrms being built in Toronto/Vancouver. This kind of rental pressure from foreign students will continue to provide demand for these small dwellings.

#117 NoName on 02.15.22 at 7:38 am

#114 Howard on 02.15.22 at 6:16 am
#77 Faron on 02.14.22 at 8:13 pm

You don’t become morbidly obese due to a “slightly less than perfect diet”.

“Organic food? Quinoa for breakfast? Keto? Subway? We are literally dying to know.”

There are many diet plans with merit. Keto most definitely. But the most important thing is simply this: cut out refined sugar completely, and significantly reduce whole foods that are high in sugar including fruit (berries are ok, lemons and cantaloupe too, as they have relatively low sugar content). Some go even further and cut carbs altogether, but that’s unrealistic for most people. Eliminate the sugar and exercise regularly and you’re most of the way there.

Easier sad than done, theory is sound but doesn’t work on everyone. I am on my 150-ish day of consumin 1500cal and average and expending 3000cal, yes that is correct. i spent twice as much than i consumed, hungry every day to loose only 20lbs.

But on a bright note my blood work looks like i am athleete rady to compeete on olympicks.

Iam thinking sumo in 2024.

side note, maybe iam doing it wrong…

#118 crowdedelevatorfartz on 02.15.22 at 7:44 am

Emergency Measures Act and increased Immigration announced on the same day?

Time to replace the troublesome, loud Truckers with compliant ones?

As cross border Trade quietly resumes….
:)

#119 Wrk.dover on 02.15.22 at 8:03 am

“I’m 24 years old and know you from my parents who have read your blog for quite some time,” he writes. “I’ll get to the point…”

One year ago, my girlfriend and I moved in together. I’m going to graduate from trades school in another year and she works full time from home.

No point pretending the prospects for two kids now in their 20s are similar to those of Boomers at the same age (five decades ago). There were three billion people then. Now eight.
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From age 24, I secured tools and machinery, learned how to build a dependable car from discards. Learned welding, masonry, plumbing and wiring. Moved rural in another province where I knew three people. Bought land, met a girl, got married while 100% building our 900 sq. ft. house, pre honeymooned in Nassau, established a business, scuba dove the coral wall in Grand Turk, built a big honking garage, ran down all of the debt and topped it off with a five month drive around the continent, right after my 35th birthday.

My productive dozen years, were done.

I then retired, my wife taught a dozen of the next fifteen years with mega vacations in between, then she too retired and we started saving a portion of her DBP equal to the amount we travel on.

Or, we could have had babies in our twenties, and there would now be more than just the 8,000,000,000 of us.
Plus a whole different set of memories. Standardized..

Bottom line, go rural and get a DBP not dependents!

Play the cards you are dealt hard, to win.

#120 Elcheapo on 02.15.22 at 8:19 am

Well hell, whoever had “glory holes” on their Garth bingo card clearly won today!

#121 Senator Bluto on 02.15.22 at 8:29 am

Years ago, my high school social studies teacher commented “You’re not independent until you’re financially independent”.

Using the War Measures Act to shut down private bank accounts over a political spat shows that independence is an illusion.

There is nothing too big to wreck to satisfy a weak and incompetent mind.

#122 Read This on 02.15.22 at 8:36 am

An excellent book on finance that this young man along with his girlfriend should read is “Quit Like a Millionaire”. It gives a solid plan on how to accumulate wealth through low cost index funds. It covers many other aspects of personal finance as well. Everyone should give it a read, its worth it. Get it from the library and if you like it buy it used on Amazon. https://fourminutebooks.com/quit-like-a-millionaire-summary/ https://www.google.com/books/edition/Quit_Like_a_Millionaire/SeycDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover

#123 willworkforpickles on 02.15.22 at 9:11 am

Timelines have been tough to project with regard to a RE correction.
With a corrupt Fed and corrupt monetary policy and their skewed knee jerk handling of debt as they continue to kick the can of fiscal responsibility down the road with reckless abandon. Forget it. Timelines are out the window there.

I don’t make projections regarding when RE will correct as i stated here long ago, only that it inevitably will.
A day of reckoning will come at some point for RE when the years of Fed corruption finally ends in blowing up the economy.
Everything i have ever said in the past here regarding RE will come to pass…just can’t pinpoint when, with the Fed growing ever more corrupt as they sweat bullets now covering up years of mismanaging the economy with bigger and ever increasing lies.
Otherwise, I’m batting a thousand with the projections, (not predictions)…projections, based on much research as opposed to any prediction/guessing game i don’t make or play with , but with calculated projections I have made here the last couple years.

#124 Dogs Not Barking on 02.15.22 at 9:35 am

Now that the taboo has been broken, I wonder how long it will be before a future NDP/Liberal government invokes the Emergencies Act to long march the country onto the lighted path of a Thousand Climate Happinesses?

#125 Shawn on 02.15.22 at 9:38 am

Debt and a fake economy?

#108 willworkforpickles on 02.15.22 at 3:22 am

Willwork here figures he understands debt and what will happen. He says:

“We have a bubble economy built on debt, not on real growth.

Our artificial producing economy doesn’t have a hope in hell of getting out and away from debt.”

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What I have learned in my 61 years is that predictions are difficult.

I would also point out that if a farmer borrows money to buy land and equipment or whatever needed to grow pickles, the resulting pickles are quite real.

The houses paid for with borrowed money are quite real.

If humans collectively keep producing more and more goods and services even per capita that is quite real. Humans as a total population have no net debt such as to Martians.

There are legitimate concerns about government debt. But everyone of us should be careful thinking we are the one who knows what will happen.

#126 Dharma Bum on 02.15.22 at 10:01 am

Hey, if you are graduating from trades school, why not then just BUILD your own house?

I’m building a house now. Well, actually I am PAYING tradesmen to build it. Carpenters, plumbers, electricians, heavy equipment operators, gas fitters, and HVAC technicians.

I mean, isn’t that what trades do? Build things?

Isn’t that what tradespeople do?

Do the research, and find some decently cheap land in the country. Get out of the city.

If you are a decent tradesman, you will make a lot of coin.

#127 Quintilian on 02.15.22 at 10:03 am

#106 ChickensComingHomeToRoost on 02.15.22 at 12:42 am
“Coherency and logic are forgotten when all you care about is gaining power. What a foolish and despicable group.”

So sadly true, however their competitors for the power are such bumbling imbeciles, that the despicable group are likely to stay in power for many decades.

Why?
Because they are more subtle, and have more finesse in soliciting the support of the voters whose avarice trumps logic and morals.

#128 Chris L. on 02.15.22 at 10:13 am

I remember when you said the WEF had no clout. Yet here we are, ruled by the WEF where we can not tolerate any decent against the official narrative. You think we aren’t to be bar coded and controlled like cattle? Still? You’re dreaming.

#129 AM in MN on 02.15.22 at 10:42 am

The act is already law. It doesn’t go to a vote. – Garth

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Garth,

I’m disappointed in your knowledge level here. The Act is law (1988), but to implement it requires a vote of both houses in 7 days.

If Jagmeet doesn’t play ball, then what? I’m not sure if such a vote would be considered a confidence vote, but it should be, at least by the House.

Funny also to hear all of these globalists like Carney and Friedland, fully in the pocket of the Globalist cabals, moaning about foreign money having an influence. How much foreign money did it take to BUY the Liberal Party?

The question was about the act. It is law, and already passed the House. The confirmation of usage will also pass. It is a non-event. – Garth

#130 Howard on 02.15.22 at 11:26 am

#117 NoName on 02.15.22 at 7:38 am

I recommend the work of Dr. Jason Fung and Dr. Sten Ekberg on intermittent fasting. I think you might find it helpful, really opened my eyes on the issue of nutrition. Plenty of YouTube content by both physicians and I believe Dr. Fung has written a few books. Not that it matters, but Dr. Fung is Canadian too.

The idea behind intermittent fasting is that instead of spreading your meals out throughout a 16-hour awake period, you contrain your feeding window (as they call it in the intermittent fasting community) to 6-8 hours. This gives your body a chance to go through its glucose stores and begin burning ketones (i.e. fat). If you eat small meals constantly, every waking hour, you keep restoring the glucose stores and do not give the body a chance to burn fat.

#131 T2 or bust on 02.15.22 at 11:39 am

RE: #103 Joseph R. on 02.15.22 at 12:01 am

#93 T2 or bust on 02.14.22 at 9:34 pm

There is no civil war.

The Federal Government was called in because the municipal and provincial law enforcement agencies have failed at their duty to upload the court’s injunction and at maintaining the peace for the resident of Ottawa.

Truckers are currently delivering all kinds of goods throughout the country. As such, The “protesters” in Ottawa aren’t truckers. Also, they aren’t rural as truckers travel from city to city.

The truck convoy has support from about 20% of the Canadian population, give or take a bit.

Populations are usually split up into groups like this. The idea for a central government is to unite them.

Cleaving off 20%, making them into untouchables, and then invoking a War Measures Emergency Act to give yourself the ability to attack them, creates the ideal situation for civil unrest.

Usually, you will find that in addition to the 20%, you have another 10 or 15% who will come to their side, when things get messy. You then have 35% of the population off side, not in support of the government, and you have armed conflict, started by the government but then returned in kind by the protestors who have no other option but to resist (remember, they are outsiders, untouchables, no longer considered to be rights bearing humans by their government).

I think Trudeau is making a massive error here. All of this to support COVID measures, which the rest of the world is lifting anyway, which the Provincial Premiers are lifting anyway, and which by May of 2022 will just be a memory in most places (including in Ontario, where most of the truck protests are actually happening).

Trudeau literally just had to give a timeline for lifting the measures, let the injunctions do their work, wait another week or so, and this would have all been over. The OPP have clearly shown, by working with Windsor police, that with the help of a court injunction (the case law for which now exists and is readily accessible to simply apply for injunctions in other courts) they can easily clear the protests and open things up again.

Instead, he pokes the hornet’s nest again. Now you have the 20% as victims. Being attacked by what they will spin as a “woke” government, rolling out the “great reset”, working with foreigners (Mr. Carney) and the WEF, and presto, bango you have a populist uprising, complete with all the usual conspiracy theories, running of of the fuel given to them by Trudeau himself.

What does Trudeau honestly think will happen now? He can rule by decree, make 20% of our population into permanent outsiders, and then go ahead and win a majority in the next election, as the dictator of Canada?

This is why trust fund brats should not be prime minister (or president). They get spooked too easily and they go off before the buzzer, every time. Bad timing, bad decisions, for bad reasons.

#132 Observer on 02.15.22 at 11:41 am

Ottawa police chief Sloly resigned.

#133 Dr V on 02.15.22 at 11:48 am

115 Sailo

“Elon donates $5.7B; solves world hunger”
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Didnt he donate millions of shares as opposed to the money?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-gave-more-than-5-million-tesla-shares-to-charity-after-teasing-possible-donation-to-fight-world-hunger-11644885144

#134 Sail Away on 02.15.22 at 12:18 pm

#133 Dr V on 02.15.22 at 11:48 am
115 Sailo

“Elon donates $5.7B; solves world hunger”

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Didnt he donate millions of shares as opposed to the money?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-gave-more-than-5-million-tesla-shares-to-charity-after-teasing-possible-donation-to-fight-world-hunger-11644885144

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Of course. He doesn’t have that kind of cash and there’s no point complicating his life going through the logistics when the end result is the same.

Darn fine thing to do. Good people do good things.

#135 IHCTD9 on 02.15.22 at 12:36 pm

#132 Observer on 02.15.22 at 11:41 am

Ottawa police chief Sloly resigned.
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Shame, he was doing a bang up job while everyone and their dog did nothing but sh!t all over the guy (and the rest of the OPF) because he wasn’t lobbing grenades into the crowd of protestors.

All he said since day one was that he didn’t have the resources. Over and over and over. It’s obvious that 1400 cops aren’t going to storm into a crowd of 10 thousand and chase them away unless they use lethal force. Kudos to Sloly for not doing it – even though City Hall seemed to want blood running in the streets.

I hope he gets a fat severance cheque, generous pension, and enjoys a long retirement where folks are a bit friendlier. I’d just hate to be a Cop these days…

#136 Chrystia the Impaler on 02.15.22 at 12:54 pm

#131 T2 or bust on 02.15.22 at 11:39 am

There is no civil war.

The Federal Government was called in because the municipal and provincial law enforcement agencies have failed at their duty to upload the court’s injunction and at maintaining the peace for the resident of Ottawa.

This is why trust fund brats should not be prime minister (or president). They get spooked too easily and they go off before the buzzer, every time. Bad timing, bad decisions, for bad reasons.

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Due to these unacceptable and illegal views, all of your assets are hereby confiscated and bank accounts frozen.

Have a wonderful, socially-conscious day!

#137 KLNR on 02.15.22 at 12:54 pm

@#132 Observer on 02.15.22 at 11:41 am
Ottawa police chief Sloly resigned.

about time.

#138 Sail Away on 02.15.22 at 1:04 pm

#135 IHCTD9 on 02.15.22 at 12:36 pm
#132 Observer on 02.15.22 at 11:41 am

Ottawa police chief Sloly resigned.

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Shame, he was doing a bang up job while everyone and their dog did nothing but sh!t all over the guy (and the rest of the OPF) because he wasn’t lobbing grenades into the crowd of protestors.

All he said since day one was that he didn’t have the resources. Over and over and over. It’s obvious that 1400 cops aren’t going to storm into a crowd of 10 thousand and chase them away unless they use lethal force. Kudos to Sloly for not doing it – even though City Hall seemed to want blood running in the streets.

I hope he gets a fat severance cheque, generous pension, and enjoys a long retirement where folks are a bit friendlier. I’d just hate to be a Cop these days…

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Yes! Seattle’s police chief Carmen Best also used great restraint during the CHOP, then was rewarded by the ‘defund the police’ wokesters voting to slash her pay and benefits.

Naturally, she resigned immediately before the new restrictions came into effect.

Bravo Sloly. And good work getting out before it really hits the fan.

#139 Observer on 02.15.22 at 1:05 pm

#135 IHCTD9 on 02.15.22 at 12:36 pm
#132 Observer on 02.15.22 at 11:41 am

Ottawa police chief Sloly resigned.
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Shame, he was doing a bang up job while everyone and their dog did nothing but sh!t all over the guy (and the rest of the OPF) because he wasn’t lobbing grenades into the crowd of protestors.

All he said since day one was that he didn’t have the resources. Over and over and over. It’s obvious that 1400 cops aren’t going to storm into a crowd of 10 thousand and chase them away unless they use lethal force. Kudos to Sloly for not doing it – even though City Hall seemed to want blood running in the streets.

I hope he gets a fat severance cheque, generous pension, and enjoys a long retirement where folks are a bit friendlier. I’d just hate to be a Cop these days…

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That was sarcasm right?

From article linked to below:

Sloly’s resignation comes as sources tell CBC News he’s been accused of bullying and volatile behaviour that has damaged relations with senior leadership and compromised the force’s ability to cope with the truck protest.

Multiple sources have told CBC News that Sloly allegedly belittled and berated senior Ottawa Police Service officers in front of their colleagues, and has failed to put forward a solid operations plan to end the crisis.

Sources say he allegedly has come into conflict with members of the OPP and RCMP tasked with assisting the city’s law enforcement efforts during the crisis.

Sources both inside and outside the police service said Sloly has a short fuse and is quick to yell at members of his senior leadership team.

Since the protest and subsequent occupation of downtown Ottawa began, at least three incident response commanders have been reassigned after working with Sloly, the sources said.

One incident commander who was reassigned described Sloly as having no rationale for his decisions.

“This will all come out in a review,” another reassigned incident commander told CBC News. “I can’t say any more.”

The sources spoke to CBC News on condition they not be named because of concerns about career repercussions.

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Police and provincial sources have told CBC News that the Ottawa Police Service’s failure to provide the OPP and the RCMP with a firm operational plan for the 1,800 officers it has asked for has delayed the arrival of those extra officers.

Sources within and outside the OPS say they are concerned the force’s leadership is burned out and has reached a breaking point.

“Right now the Ottawa Police Service is paralyzed,” one source told CBC News. “They are paralyzed at the front line. They’ve been waiting for directions from the senior leadership team and are frustrated with how they’re being viewed by the public because of the spectacular failure of their leader.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sloly-ottawa-resigns-behaviour-leadership-1.6352295

#140 Shawn on 02.15.22 at 1:20 pm

Houses are affordable in Alberta and there are jobs.

’nuff said? Next “move” is up to any young Canadians who want a house and can’t afford one where they live.

If their parents did not move to better their situation, surely their grand parents or great grand parents did. Maybe moved continents and came to Canada not speaking French or English. Ambitious people always do what they need to do to get ahead.

#141 Observer on 02.15.22 at 1:27 pm

#134 Sail Away on 02.15.22 at 12:18 pm
#133 Dr V on 02.15.22 at 11:48 am
115 Sailo

“Elon donates $5.7B; solves world hunger”

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Didnt he donate millions of shares as opposed to the money?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-gave-more-than-5-million-tesla-shares-to-charity-after-teasing-possible-donation-to-fight-world-hunger-11644885144

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Of course. He doesn’t have that kind of cash and there’s no point complicating his life going through the logistics when the end result is the same.

Darn fine thing to do. Good people do good things.

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You mean like supporting and donating to illegal blockades and occupations designed to destabilize Canadian democracy?

#142 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.15.22 at 1:46 pm

#134 Sail Away on 02.15.22 at 12:18 pm
#133 Dr V on 02.15.22 at 11:48 am
115 Sailo

“Elon donates $5.7B; solves world hunger”

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Didnt he donate millions of shares as opposed to the money?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-gave-more-than-5-million-tesla-shares-to-charity-after-teasing-possible-donation-to-fight-world-hunger-11644885144

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Of course. He doesn’t have that kind of cash and there’s no point complicating his life going through the logistics when the end result is the same.

Darn fine thing to do. Good people do good things.
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But Nonplussed would counter:
Shares are only money until you sell them.
And about “doing good things”:
Why don’t you try it once?

#143 salonist on 02.15.22 at 1:55 pm

it’s obvious
most divorces are initiated by the female
if your thinking now on alternatives instead of a house
you’re done
regardless of the good advice mr. turner has mentioned here

#144 fishman on 02.15.22 at 1:56 pm

I love the smell of purges of police officers early in the morning.

#145 IHCTD9 on 02.15.22 at 1:59 pm

#139 Observer on 02.15.22 at 1:05 pm
#135 IHCTD9 on 02.15.22 at 12:36 pm
#132 Observer on 02.15.22 at 11:41 am

Ottawa police chief Sloly resigned.
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Shame, he was doing a bang up job while everyone and their dog did nothing but sh!t all over the guy (and the rest of the OPF) because he wasn’t lobbing grenades into the crowd of protestors.

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That was sarcasm right?

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More like a fair assessment of reality. I’m glad you’re not involved with Law enforcement. If you ever do – let me know so I can stock up on Molotov Cocktails before attending a Canadian protest event. The OPF had no ability to “kick out” the protestors without breaking out the guns and riot gear. He didn’t. Hence no one is dead.

Others would rather see chaos along the lines of your typical BLM riot, but Sloly obviously prefers peace and order. Excellent choice Mr. Sloly, that’s my choice too.

A job well done Peter, enjoy your retirement.

#146 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.15.22 at 2:01 pm

#140 Shawn on 02.15.22 at 1:20 pm
Houses are affordable in Alberta and there are jobs.

’nuff said? Next “move” is up to any young Canadians who want a house and can’t afford one where they live.

If their parents did not move to better their situation, surely their grand parents or great grand parents did. Maybe moved continents and came to Canada not speaking French or English. Ambitious people always do what they need to do to get ahead.
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Social and cultural expectations among immigrants to own RE are enormous.
Very few Chinese man will ever find a bride without owning a house.
Not much to do with ambition.

#147 T2 or bust on 02.15.22 at 2:08 pm

RE: #136 Chrystia the Impaler on 02.15.22 at 12:54 pm

#131 T2 or bust on 02.15.22 at 11:39 am

There is no civil war.

The Federal Government was called in because the municipal and provincial law enforcement agencies have failed at their duty to upload the court’s injunction and at maintaining the peace for the resident of Ottawa.

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They had injunctions. They were about to start enforcing them. They had established a legal precedent down in Windsor for the making of the injunctions (before a Judge who appears to be the active head Judge down in that area, so likely his rulings will not be challenged in other courts). All the spare parts were falling into place for an end to the trucker convoy, by way of applications for injunctions, and obtaining court orders.

The process was transparent, the trucker convoy organizers were represented by lawyers and made submissions. It was all very legal, very open and public and it was quite clear to all involved that the Courts had ruled on the matter and it was over.

The police were able to clear the bridge to USA without issue. I believe 35 stragglers were arrested and charged with mischief.

Very clean, neat and legal. An open process in a democratic nation.

Then Trudeau invokes the Emergencies Act. In secret, in his cabinet. A veiled process, no courts or judges involved. Looks suspicious. Is a breeding ground for conspiracy theories. Throws fuel on the fire, pokes the hornet’s nest. Makes the situation look like David versus Goliath, the truckers versus the evil overlord government, moving on instructions from shadowy international bodies of billionaires who meet to make plans to rule the world.

Lots of conspiracy bunk, but it is out there nonetheless. And Trudeau has enabled them.

They should have just waited for the injunctions to work their magic. This would have been over in a week. Now it is entrenched and will get bigger and harder to control.

#148 Quintilian on 02.15.22 at 2:13 pm

#140 Shawn on 02.15.22 at 1:20 pm
Houses are affordable in Alberta and there are jobs.

Unless the bubble pops soon, (and it’s unlikely) it will make it’s way to Alberta as well.

Then what?
You can’t run away from the problem.

#149 Ponzius Pilatus on 02.15.22 at 2:13 pm

Gassy Jack has been toppled.
My condolences to CEF.

#150 Shawn on 02.15.22 at 2:20 pm

Another reason to buy a house in Alberta

#148 Quintilian on 02.15.22 at 2:13 pm
#140 Shawn on 02.15.22 at 1:20 pm
Houses are affordable in Alberta and there are jobs.

Unless the bubble pops soon, (and it’s unlikely) it will make it’s way to Alberta as well.

Then what?
You can’t run away from the problem.

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You making an argument to buy in Alberta, a quick equity gain on top of being affordable today? Sounds good. Who’s running away? I am suggesting people move to a place with a better opportunity for them than Toronto or Van and such at the moment.

#151 Quintilian on 02.15.22 at 2:31 pm

You making an argument to buy in Alberta, a quick equity gain on top of being affordable today? Sounds good. Who’s running away? I am suggesting people move to a place with a better opportunity for them than Toronto or Van and such at the moment.

Alberta is boom and bust.
Good luck when the bust comes as it always has.

#152 willworkforpickles on 02.15.22 at 2:45 pm

#125 Shawn
“There are legitimate concerns about government debt. But everyone of us should be careful thinking we are the one who knows what will happen.”
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Endless research has done more for me than just believing what the masses are told just plain accepting what they are consistently being lied to about without ever knowing any different.
The Fed is running on fumes in just how much longer they can get away with their lies before the market realizes they can’t sugarcoat this humongous turd they have created any longer. The masses as usual will go along with whatever comes along then, as now, continuing to settle on current mainstream bs no matter how bogus.
Those who never do a lick of research as such, being the lot in life of the masses, will always be deceived by the mainstream of current bogus information far removed from the truth to their own eventual undoing. Right along with the eventual undoing of the economy they will never be prepped and prepared in advance for.

#153 Barb on 02.15.22 at 3:28 pm

Affordable houses in Alberta?

Still doesn’t make up for an AB winter…bad enough in BC interior. But AB? Nope.

#154 Tinpot Economist on 02.16.22 at 10:27 am

Connect the dots.

Canada has its own Rand Paul, the US politician who along with his father think the Federal Reserve is a Conspiracy.

https://news.yahoo.com/rand-paul-urges-truckers-clog-171421106.html

Who is this Canadian politician? Andrew Scheer, who wants the BoC to open its books. Is there any end to this Lunacy?

If Canada needed a new centrist political party, now is the time.