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As goes January, so goes the year.

It’s one of those little trader witticisms. Like, ‘sell in May and go away’. Sometimes they are guideposts. Often they’re bunk.

When it comes to 2022, it’s the latter. Stock markets and bond prices are taking it on the chin for an entirely different reason. And you should probably ignore it all.

Here’s the scoop. US inflation numbers will come out on Wednesday. Mr. Market is bracing for something that starts with a 7. With unemployment under 4%, more empty jobs than people to fill them and wages bouncing higher, even Omicron can’t stop the tide. If fact, the virus is accelerating it. More sickness, absenteeism and labour squeeze. More WFH and delayed RTW. Employers scrambling to stay staffed and meet a growing demand for services and stuff. It’s what inflation’s made of. A wage-price spiral – we haven’t seen one in a few decades.

Okay, so a 7-handle on CPI. In advance the bond market is pushing yields up and prices down. The benchmark US Treasury popped through 1.8% in the last 24 hours, for the first time since the pandemic started. Higher rates are bad news for tech companies, which are highly leveraged, so they got a bit crushed on Monday. Cyclicals are doing okay. Banks and energy too. Stay diversified to avoid the traffic.

The bottom line is that odds of a Fed rate hike in a few weeks are running at 80%. That would happen on Wednesday, March 16th, when the US central bank will also release economic projections. Our guys in Ottawa set their rates this year first on January 26th, then March 2nd and April 13th.

Some people think we’ll see the first hike here the week after next. Others (like economists at BMO) say Canada’s bankers will do everything they possibly can to avoid and delay. Inflation here is about 5%, and apparently spiking. House inflation is closer to 25%. Food inflation is expected to be 7%. Tax inflation is also in the cards. And recall a recent survey we yakked about here showing most people (like 87%) would favour raising rates to lower prices, despite being impacted by bigger debt payments.

What to expect?

Looks like a quarter point pop in March for both countries. Then – depending on the course of the virus and its impact on employment – three more moves before Christmas. The projections this pathetic blog gave you some weeks ago look solid. The prime rate at the banks (plus your HELOC) will be close to 4% by this time next year. The only thing that would prevent this is an economic plop prompting the bankers to reverse engines and start pouring on stimulus in the form of cheaper money. And Dog help us if that happens. Because you know what that would mean.

So, speaking of more virus, more variants and more pandemic, allow me a few words on yesterday’s fisticuffs below decks. It would appear the next big debate will be about vaccine mandates as the pandemic drags on and Omicron infects millions with a crushing effect on limited public health care resources. Yesterday’s blog looked at some of the impacts and reasons – medical and political – why this may be in the cards.

This blog’s always been pro-vax. Without this stuff many, many more would be seriously sick or dead. Even with it, folks needing treatments for cancer or diabetes, stroke or a crapped-out hip are being shunted aside, and suffering. It’s all got to stop.

I regret what it has done to people. Here is an example.

In May of 2020 a man I will call Jason posted this:

Thank you Garth. I came across your blog 10 years ago in my mid-30s, single, a renter, and reluctantly getting pushed into condo ownership.  I didn’t want to get in the real estate market, but figured I had already missed out on ten years of real estate growth, and frankly being a renter had a stigma that was not helping me on the dating scene! But I found your blog (thank you Google) and your voice of confidence and sanity.  I reached out to you and you took me on as a client, even though I had far less savings than I thought I would need for a financial advisor.

Not having a mortgage, a long commute or a property to maintain allowed us to focus on building our business and take risks, and we have been successful. Now disaster has hit our country, the whole world.  We have done well, have a lot of money, and we are free.

You are a wonderful person.  I can count you as one of the most beneficially positive influences in my life.   I am much better off in life because of you, and your tenacious voice of reason.

As we get wiser (hopefully) with age we learn to give appreciation to the people in our lives while we still can.   I am one just one of so many people that you and your magnificent blog have helped. It’s a national treasure and so are you.

Jason is now a multi-millionaire, with a young child. He posted this yesterday.

I expect better from you. The biggest threat to our country is the parroting of lies coming from pharma and our government and media dividing our citizenry with hate and blame to district from their ineptitude and complicity. Don’t feed the division.

As others have pointed out, it’s not one stereotypical demographic avoiding new vaccines. Most of your additional rhetoric is equally flawed. Forcing 5 year olds to risk themselves to protect seniors is immoral.

Have I changed? Or has the world changed you? Jaded, stressed, mistrustful and frustrated, so many are lashing out in a haze of emotion and self-interest. Our bonds to each other have been shredded. Blaming politicians, medicine-makers or bloggers for virus anxiety is pointless. Destructive. This will end. Be civil. Be ready.

About the picture: “I don’t know if you are still looking but here a couple of your feline fans,” writes Steve, in the GTA. “Meet Greddy & Jasper. Their daily routine involves napping & occasionally eating.”

215 comments ↓

#1 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.10.22 at 4:20 pm

@#250 sunshowers
Most people who go without healthcare in the US do not do so because they don’t WANT healthcare, but because they can’t AFFORD it.
+++++

Poh-Tay-to Poh-Tah-to

Most Canadians that can AFFORD to pay for healthcare CAN”T GET IT.

Our “glorius free health” care is broken.
God help you if your doctor retires.
God help you if something serious needs attention.
Take a number.

#2 Wrk.dover on 01.10.22 at 4:21 pm

You’ve been a big deal in my life this past month, since your bank stock gain primer! Thanks Garth!

And Sail Away, I meant I was aware of Enphase two years ago, when it was a $30 buy. I guess someone else has moved into their unique product line now, the micro inverter. Going down.

#3 Chameleon on 01.10.22 at 4:25 pm

Double the cats!

Double the pleasure!

Double the fluffiness!

After all the vaccine fluff yesterday, today let’s put it in the litter box and pet these cats in our imaginations.

HEY! An idea! Covid Pretty Litter – that changes color if your cat has Covid, with blue for Delta and pink for Omicron variant and green for TBD variant!

Speaking of which…what ever happened to THIS testing option?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/china-deploys-anal-swabs-to-test-for-covid-19-1.5283930

#4 TurnerNation on 01.10.22 at 4:27 pm

People are fleeing this country – fast. A couple I know just bailed to a better country in the EU (small business owner). Another person is setting sights on a tropical island. Another couple fled back to USA late last year (high level executive at a global firm).

–Life in Kanada: some hardened criminals here. Their crime? Having fun. Comrades sign your confessions and name your collaborators.

.The Globe and Mail reports in its Saturday edition that the federal government is continuing to investigate the behaviour of passengers aboard a chartered Sunwing flight from Montreal to Mexico, as the government confirms that 27 of the 130 passengers have returned to Canada…each one was stopped and “interrogated” at the border. (stockwatch.com)


— Supply Chain. Control over our feeding. Another step in the Great Reset??
Life in a Former First World Country.

.Vaccine mandate for truckers could lead to mass layoffs and supply chain issues(cbc.ca)

— Our high taxes. Worth it!? Control over Travel.

.GTA: Metrolinx Is Reducing Go Train Service and Lots Of Routes Are Being Cancelled Due to CoVid Staff Shortages (narcity.com)


Natural Gas big move up: https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=NG&p=h1

#5 Garthnation on 01.10.22 at 4:30 pm

Shame on Jason. I have followed Garth since university years and am attributing much on my investing success on his advice. Follow the science! If we don’t all get vaccinated and get rid of COVID-Omicron, we will be stuck in the current state (or worse) and the economy will surely crash.

#6 Debel on 01.10.22 at 4:30 pm

About to dive in MFT.TO any thoughts on this etf? Looks like a solid etf for upcoming fed increases.

#7 Prairieboy43 on 01.10.22 at 4:34 pm

Garth you have changed. We now viewing weekly feline pics on Greater Fool blog.
PB43

#8 Bezengy on 01.10.22 at 4:35 pm

I don’t think we should ever underestimate the fact that deep down we’re all just a bunch of animals. As well behaved as we normally might be, when cornered or scared it’s the survival instinct that takes over, and intellectual arguments become useless, as abundantly obvious on this blog.

#9 Diamond Dog on 01.10.22 at 4:37 pm

As per Covid19 and the need to vaccinate, last entry on the last thread explains the need.

As per inflation… for the lamen that don’t have much background on monetary policy and inflation, this video below is worth a watch. There are all kinds of variables that factor into inflation but at the end of the day, it comes down to money supply and monetary policy well explained below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvxV95WcoSw&t=878s

#10 Bob on 01.10.22 at 4:40 pm

I do think “Jason” has a point. I found the take-one-for-the-team argument fairly compelling for myself. I’d say it’s a large part of the reason I got myself vaxxed. But my kids? The ones who rely on me for everything? The ones who barely know what a virus or a vaccine is and have no ability to give informed consent? Not so much…

#11 Erick on 01.10.22 at 4:43 pm

You may want to watch the serie Dopesick, which centers around the opioid crisis in the US.
May change your mind slightly about big pharma.
And Michael Keaton is amazing.

#12 leebow on 01.10.22 at 4:45 pm

Thank God for idiots. They buy high and sell low.

But seriously, yeah. Stress and frustration. Not everybody handles it well. Sometimes it’s super hard to hold from hurting feelings. Really tired of finding ways of disagreeing in a polite way and downplaying stupid things some people say.

But what can you do? Only hope remains people will find a new bearing once this is over, and things will somehow return to the way they used to be.

#13 Brad on 01.10.22 at 4:46 pm

RE: #8 Bezengy on 01.10.22 at 4:35 pm

So true; we’re just another animal bent on killing and eating each other.

#14 When the Whip Comes Down on 01.10.22 at 4:51 pm

While I appreciate we are canada and follow the directives of our public heath officers I feel it is problematic when there are opposing guidelines and recommendations from health authorities in other developed nations. With respect to children 5-11, the JCVI had not yet recommended vaccination for this group unless they are considered an at risk group. They are still evaluating data for healthy children. So why the delay vs Canada/US for example. Surely their scientists and public health bodies are looking at the same safety and efficacy data as Canada is. The inconsistencies from this add doubt to some individuals.

#15 mark on 01.10.22 at 4:51 pm

Yikes Garth was some 180 degree turn by the multimillion air letter, Harsh.

#16 Common Sense on 01.10.22 at 4:52 pm

We keep shuttering society to protect the healthcare system and capacity, where half of ICU admissions are due to less than 20% of the population.

Realistically one should consider the % of those eligible that remain unvaccinated as children going to ICU is very rare. Take this further and likely consider the % of those over 18 that are unvaccinated, since those under 18 have a very low risk of severe outcomes. So you start to see that an ever narrowing slice of the population is overwhelming our health care system, that all society must shut down to protect it, and everyone must suffer.

It’s only a matter of time before vaccine restrictions broaden so that those that are vaccinated and have low risk of severe outcomes get to participate in society, and those that are unvaccinated can continue in their own personal lockdowns. It’s the fairest way to allow people to continue to have choice. However, full participation is society is not a right, and all choices have consequences.

All the rhetoric about making unvaccinated people pay for their treatment is nonsense, as we have a universal public healthcare system. The way to protect them against themselves is to not allow them to do anything that is a privilege, which includes most things in a civilized society. It’s the only way to protect them against themselves, and also protect those more vulnerable in society – those that need real medical care that are being punted and suffering.

All the comparisons of vaccination choice to lifestyle choice is also complete garbage. We can’t pass or spread the affects of lifestyle choices to each other, and any single lifestyle choice is not overwhelming the healthcare system. These arguments are a total distraction tactic.

The tough one is vaccinating those under 12. Science says there is very very very low risk to that age group, so the risk/benefit ratio of vaccinating children is very poor. I’ve seen first hand small children shake off prior and more severe COVID strains with a bad night’s sleep. We are basically asking them to get vaccinated to protect our elderly. However children get vaccinated for a lot of diseases, some with real risks to them (measles, rubella), and some not so much where vaccination is a matter of convenience (chicken pox).

So the real question is whether to require COVID vaccines as part of the mandatory vaccination schedule to attend school, and how to manage teacher/staff safety if children are not required to get vaccinated. However unvaccinated small children don’t seem to be much of a viral vector, and likely less so than vaccinated adults. Generally they are barely sick, if even symptomatic at all, and sick it’s for a very short period of time, all meaning not a lot of viral transmission.

As a parent of two small children over 5, our choice was to vaccinate them. It was a personal choice, however I do struggle to understand any parent who would not vaccinate yet still put their children in activities and sports that ultimately lead to contacts. Why not prime them with the defenses they need to fight off Omi-cold or whatever other future variant. We vaccinate for the flu too.

#17 ogdoad on 01.10.22 at 4:53 pm

In my opinion people will always side with the views that align with there own values. Whether they know it or not.

Did Jason have his kid vaxxed against measles, mumps and rubella?

Hey, I don’t care who gets vaxxed or not. We are only here temporarily anyway. And they way I see it, the more sissies confined to their basements the less line-ups I have to endure…oh, and better chance I have with that hottie at the gym…

Og

#18 Guy in Calgary on 01.10.22 at 4:54 pm

The whole vaccine argument is just exhausting and circular so no one can win.

Anti vax say government and big pharma corruption are responsible for the lockdowns and getting the vax makes you a sheep.

Pro vax maintain that we require lockdowns to preserve the integrity of the healthcare system while the unvaxxed selfishly clog it.

The unvaccinated’s inability to see the selfishness of their actions is nothing short of shocking. I am fine with the freedom to choose, but do not complain when your choice comes with consequences. No vax? That’s fine. No eating out, access to government facilities/jobs, sporting events, travel etc. That is a choice you can make. You cannot make a choice knowing the consequences and then still complain. That is what a toddler does.

This is a concept we instill in toddlers, that choices have consequences and you cannot have it all. Covid has revealed that some adults require the same treatment as a toddler.

#19 HUNGRY BEAR on 01.10.22 at 4:54 pm

“Mandates are likely coming. So, move. – Garth”

And quick I hope. Kids must be vaxed before they enter school….its MANDATORY.

So whats the problem with these sissy adults?

It’s ok to jab the kids but not the grown ups?
Why aren’t all the ANTI-VAXERS standing up for the kids then?

https://eohu.ca/en/my-health/immunization-requirements-for-children-in-school#_Mandatory_immunizations_required

#20 AM in MN on 01.10.22 at 4:55 pm

I’m with Jason.

Wife and I are vaxxed, but our young son is not. He’s had Covid and doesn’t need it. Thankfully in private school in person since Sept. 2020, didn’t need Covid to hate the Teachers Unions and Educrats.

Why the need to punish the children to cater politically to the seniors? Not all seniors wish to take out their fears on the children. Why not impose all of these restrictions and mandates on the 60+ crowd and leave the children alone?

History will not be kind to today’s political leaders.

Hospitalizations skyrocket for kids too young for Covid shots.” – Garth

#21 Barb on 01.10.22 at 4:57 pm

Jason’s one of those guys who got rich.
And miserable.

#22 All lies and manipulated u decide on 01.10.22 at 4:59 pm

A couple of cutie kitties!
Garth you can happy up all the people some of the time.

This just in: Tax assessment’s
House up 43%
4 acre vacant commercial property up 43%
1 paved parking lot up 33%
9 commercial’s up 10%
2 penthouse condos up 35% and 20% last year.
Gulp! a record breaker in a big way.
Next is to pass off the bad news to tenants as that’s where increases gets passed onto, in our inflation nation.

#23 Numbers on 01.10.22 at 5:01 pm

#276 Diamond Dog on 01.10.22 at 4:14 pm
As I read these comments, a common theme is repeated over and over. “Covid19 doesn’t seem to be that serious”.

Let’s go over what we know or should know. Back in March 9th of this year, the Red cross released data on a broad based search for antibodies in their most recent blood samples. They found antibodies in 20.3% of their blood. On the day of the release, according to worldometer, 10% of the U.S. population had been infected. Comparing these 2 numbers gives us an approximate 1:1 ratio of confirmed cases vs asymptomatic or 50/50.

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Not gonna get into it, because the data is about a year old. But bottom line, when New York City and New York State were “on fire” and Cuomo was on TV each day and hailed as the hero of communication and transparency, New York did general population immunity testing and the found that the ratio was 7x. While test confirmed cases in the state were something like 2.1%, in the general population it was close to 14.5% (going from memory). While New York City had 3% of the population confirmed by test as positive cases at the time, 21% of the NYC population had antibodies. And so, this was the first validation that the ratio of test to overall cases was 7. More interestingly, it showed that out of 8 people who get it, only 1 feels it’s worth while to even test, so mild is the case. Remember how it was claimed to be asymptomatic in a large percentage of population? You don’t hear that much anymore in MSM – do you?

Canada was supposed to do the same, and then they never released that data in the period, with the “task force” citing some nonsense data claims. As if it was an impossible task to get 10,000 samples randomly in the population.

That NY result meant that the death % really could be divided by 7 at the time.

Let’s say your number is correct. Doesn’t that mean the death ratio has to be divided by 2 at least?

Then there was that Ontario Hospital data that said Covid is 3.5x the death rate of the flu.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/smart-living/risk-of-death-from-covid-19-is-35-times-higher-than-influenza-cmaj-study-finds/ar-BB1dzFBg?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggNb9

Anyhow…what do we learn from all this?

That even case, test and death data is flawed. Even that is not true.

I still can’t believe how effective this thing is at finding Long Term Care homes. As if FedExed there! Crazy.

You saw that LTC is like 75% of the deaths too. Not exactly strong individuals if they are in an LTC. Goes to that CDC comment, which was actually quite eye opening.

Did you see it?

U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky has tweeted following a backlash over comments she made in a television interview last week.

Walensky was criticised on social media after speaking about Omicron death statistics on ABC talk show Good Morning America on Friday, when she said that the majority of Omicron fatalities had occurred in people who already had other medical conditions at the same time—known as comorbidities.

“The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75 per cent, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities,” she said. “So really these are people who were unwell to begin with and yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron.”

https://www.newsweek.com/cdc-rochelle-walensky-tweets-backlash-comments-omicron-death-comorbidities-1667329

#24 DUFFR on 01.10.22 at 5:02 pm

#10 BOB

You are a good example of why some people should not have kids. You take precautions to protect yourself but find excuses for not protecting your own kids who quite possibly are below the age of reason.

#25 Chameleon on 01.10.22 at 5:05 pm

#7 Prairieboy43 on 01.10.22 at 4:34 pm

Garth you have changed. We now viewing weekly feline pics on Greater Fool blog.
PB43

One day it will be a cute giraffe. Or maybe a baby elephant. Or maybe he’ll cause total blog pandemonium with a picture of a giant panda?

#26 Squire on 01.10.22 at 5:08 pm

Together we stand, divided we fall. And so it shall be…

Politicians have offloaded their responsibility to medical professionals that are not elected. In doing so, they have created a big mess of misinformation and mistrust. The air needs to be cleared.
That being said, the vaccines are proving to be very leaky with omicron so mandating vaccines that were designed for the original strains seems too little too late.

#27 Arthur on 01.10.22 at 5:12 pm

#19 HUNGRY BEAR on 01.10.22 at 4:54 pm
“Mandates are likely coming. So, move. – Garth”

And quick I hope. Kids must be vaxed before they enter school….its MANDATORY.

So whats the problem with these sissy adults?

It’s ok to jab the kids but not the grown ups?
Why aren’t all the ANTI-VAXERS standing up for the kids then?

()()()()()

Are the mRNA vaccines the only ones “approved” for children? You can’t get any of the vector ones, right? It must be mRNA for the kiddos?

Oh, and believe me, plenty of parents I know who are up to date on vax aren’t letting their kids be injected with this one.

#28 XGRO and chill on 01.10.22 at 5:13 pm

What is there left to say about people like Jason? They are apparently super geniuses since they know everything about everything and never change their minds.

#29 Ian on 01.10.22 at 5:16 pm

Calm breeds calm. Thank you Garth.

Jason, if you read this, I don’t know you, but when it counted you showed what type of Man you are. Grow Up.

#30 When Will They Raise Rates? on 01.10.22 at 5:17 pm

Define “mandatory”.

What will be done to those who refuse?

What level of tyranny are you comfortable with?

#31 Dave on 01.10.22 at 5:22 pm

The people who are too stupid and selfish to get vacced should have to pay for their medical treatment if they end up in an ICU and they should go to the back of the queue.

#32 Bob on 01.10.22 at 5:23 pm

#24 DUFFR
Nice. What was that Garth said about remaining civil?

#33 All lies and manipulated u decide on 01.10.22 at 5:27 pm

Garth your pro vax cause it helps.
I just got 2 as we held off to wait and see how it played out.
The whole thing is a sh!t show end to end. Its made worse with a leader that’s a fart in the wind on policy.
Using the bug to push his policies shut down parliament and skirt all oversight. What could go wrong with this clown show!?
Jason should maybe head to China and do some yelling thats where the bugs from?

#34 When the Whip Comes Down on 01.10.22 at 5:29 pm

With respect to Garths response to AM in MN – the link states that most of the surge in pediatric covid positive cases are admissions that are not related to Covid. They simply tested positive for the virus when admitted. Worth pointing that out isn’t it?

#35 T on 01.10.22 at 5:32 pm

Many people have a problem seeing the bigger picture. Nothing new here.

The virus may fade but the division it has caused will not. Science deniers vs the world. Hopefully we don’t go full Idiocracy.

#36 baloney Sandwitch on 01.10.22 at 5:37 pm

Jason is not only an ingrate but a misinformed idiot to be speaking this way. Nobody is forcing his 5 year old to get vaxxed. He can keep the kid home. No one is forcing kids to get vaxxed. Its just recommended.

#37 Not-Vaccinated on 01.10.22 at 5:39 pm

It’s funny to read this pathetic blog and your opinions of the unvaccinated. Let me offer you a hand and provide some food for thought
– 40-50 age, University educated
– 200K+ income – and over 70K in taxes paid in 2021
– recovered from COVID, have very high level of antibodies after 6+ mon
– voted Conservative
– My body my choice – do not believe in experimental gene therapy that only slightly improves outcome

Governments took our liberties and violating constitutional rights. Take it for the team, but then never complain of your poor choice.
Invest in hospitals, build new like they do in China and Russia.

#38 pk on 01.10.22 at 5:47 pm

I have to agree with Jason on this one, you have become very divisive Garth.
Personally I am not afraid of the Covid or the unvaccinated but I am becoming concerned with the very nasty narrative from some of the vaccinated, the MSM and the government. The aggressive and oppressive tones are doing nothing to solve the Covid problem but everything to divide the country and provide political leverage to the powers that be.
When fully vaccinated people, fully masked and covered in hand sanitizer are walking around terrified there is something seriously wrong with either the vaccine, the narrative or both.

#39 Young Guns WC on 01.10.22 at 5:47 pm

Jason, what a guy. I have followed Garth since I was 20 and he has been a huge reason why I achieved financial independence. He has regularly made sense of a complicated and chaotic world in a way only HE CAN. We don’t have to agree with everything Garth says but we can be respectful. It’s the least we can do for getting high quality free investment advice over the years.

#40 Midnights on 01.10.22 at 5:51 pm

We must do for their own good.
Government to Indians
Government to Japanese
Government to Jews
Government to Blacks
Government to East Indians
Government to Hong Kong
Need I say more?

#41 Damifino on 01.10.22 at 5:52 pm

#1 crowdedelevatorfartz

God help you if your doctor retires.
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My doctor of 25 years retired and God did nothing.

Luckily, after many month of searching I found one willing to take me on. He’s located a 40 minute drive away. Most of his appointments are virtual. I’ve seen him in person three times in 4 years.

Still, it’s better than going to a random walk-in clinic to visit “Dr. Whoever” that hasn’t got a scrap of your medical history and will probably never see you again.

#42 SunShowers on 01.10.22 at 5:52 pm

#1 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.10.22 at 4:20 pm
Most Canadians that can AFFORD to pay for healthcare CAN”T GET IT.

When’s the last time you needed health care?

If I need to see my doctor, I schedule an appointment online, and I have a virtual visit within the week. Pre-covid, in person visits were scheduled inside of 2 weeks.

I had a (minor) injury at work and had to go to the hospital. Waited in emergency for maybe an hour or two before getting all the basic bloodwork done, seeing a doctor, the doctor deciding he wanted an ultrasound to rule out more serious damage, and getting that ultrasound. The entire process took no more than 4 hours. I was literally able to return to work before the day was done.

I’m at an age where my parents and the parents of my friends are beginning to require significant medical resources. Nobody has ever complained to me about wait times for surgeries, procedures, or referrals for medically necessary procedures.

But if you’re really concerned, you should back a vaccine mandate, so anti-vax people stop taking up hospital beds.

#43 Cowboy Kyle on 01.10.22 at 5:58 pm

You don’t need 1/2 a brain to figure out if the mantra of “Vaccines are our best way out of this” is true or not. You just actually have to use that 1/2 brain instead of listening to media on either side.

Covid is more widespread now that before! CTV has at least reported the truth that vaccinated now out weigh unvaccinated hospitalizations.

I wish these vaccines worked because I have them, I have also had Covid 3 months after my 2nd shot. I wish they worked because we are all tired of this and the divisiveness that they are causing! This isn’t to say future vaccine developments can’t put an end to this BUT in order for that to happen the vaccine must produce some level of immunity. Look around you, do more people than ever have covid? Are more people than ever vaccinated? So there can be NO argument that they are “our best way out of this”.

Sure arguments can be made they reduce severity which is great! Also helps the healthcare system! So at least that is good. But stop thinking that if everyone gets vaccinated (only 15% more of the population) that something is going to change…its not. Doing more of the same thing that doesn’t work, doesn’t yield a different result. End of story.

You got Covid after being vaccinated and didn’t die or end up in ICU. And you say vaccines don’t work? Seriously? – Garth

#44 Linda on 01.10.22 at 5:59 pm

Cute blog photo of the day:)

Inflation is going to be a real game changer. Also the insane increases in the cost of housing of all sorts. Folks are being priced out of the market as rents are increased – not just due to pricing in overall increases to expenses like higher utilities etc. but to provide returns to investors. Not surprising, since RE has now become all about the money rather than providing a place to live. But given how many are living close to the edge financially, seems like affordable housing is going to be a real problem for a long time to come.

#45 rosie on 01.10.22 at 6:03 pm

Chances are the anti-vax crowd would label this fake news, even though it comes from a red state reporting on a liberal run blue city. But that’s another story. The facts are what they are so if you are vaccinated, take heart, the facts provide plenty of assurance that the vaccine is effective at protecting you from the worst of this plague. If you are unvaccinated, well good luck

.https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/new-york-city-covid-hospitalization-rates-vaccinated-unvaccinated/67-4c9daed8-1871-4862-98b1-34da4ff24f81

#46 jimmy zhao on 01.10.22 at 6:03 pm

Have we forgotten that Pfizer was found guilty of the biggest health care fraud in history in 2009 ?

Methinks that Pfizer is recouping its losses 10 fold with the covif vaccines.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history

P.S. My math skills are fine, reading comprehension sometimes not so fine.

What has that possibly to do with an effective vaccine and disease mitigation? – Garth

#47 mark on 01.10.22 at 6:09 pm

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#48 Dogman01 on 01.10.22 at 6:09 pm

If Inflation is 7% (or even Canada’s 5%) and GDP growth is only 4%, does that mean a 3% (1%) shrink in the Nations GDP?

Is the headline GDP numbers adjusted for Inflation?

Like how tax brackets creep down as money loses it value.

Like Bonds if they pay 3% and Inflation is 7% then is that not 4% negative result?

So who would hold a 3.5% bond in a 5% Inflation world….

#49 Willem on 01.10.22 at 6:11 pm

I have been following you, Garth for years and also owe an immense gratitude to you for leading me and my wife out of the darkness of financial/real estate ignorance. We have a net worth today of almost 2.5 million and zero debt. So as I sit in my chair eating popcorn observing the mass herd mentality happening in Canada, I am motivated to write today because I believe in independent CRITICAL THINKING. I am
very sad today as a Canadian because I see one solution dogma being spouted/broadcasted by our Government, the Media, and many of our Health Authorities. Let me be clear; I am not anti-vax! But I believe that we have a very stratified population with different values and beliefs and different levels of health. For this reason I believe it is very wrong to paint one group of people in our “just society”, as Trudeau 1 used say, with an “X” brush. That is why, as a critical thinking person, I cringe when I see Trudeau on a french speaking interview saying, “those people are misogynists and racists and should be dealt with”! This is the ultimate dangerous divisive stroke to come from our illustrious school teacher Leader. Most of the time I try not to pay attention to Justin because it is to painful, however Trudeau 1 must be rolling over in his grave!
This brings me to my main point, which is the saying, “united we stand, divided we fall”. If ” we are all in this together”, is there not room in this great country for critical thinking from different segments of our society with due respect for DIFFERING valid fact based debate ? Or are we going to grab one big easy single dogmatic approach to fighting this pandemic and hope NOT to find out later that there may have been some other parallel strategies that could have dramatically reduced hospitalizations and death.
For example; Public health authorities promoting health habits to make sure your immune system is at its optimum level with vitamin D, vitamin C, Zinc. Rest, exercise, and having on hand a finger Oxygen sensor. There are also some preventive oral anti-viral supplements/medicines and a protocal for using them by the FLCCC alliance; these are a group of front line ICU doctors that have had dramatic success with early and mid stage treatment of Covid patients.
I am not trying to promote this group but there other front line doctors in different parts of the world that are implementing preventive measures that are having good success and not just relying on the single vaccine dogma.
Many countries may never get enough vaccine to get their rates anywhere near our fortunate rate in Canada. So there have to be found other therapies that can knock down the virus world wide, otherwise we will never get completely out of this lockdown reality.

Garth please try to consider that there is more than one way to skin a cat! Sorry, I forgot you are into cats these days! I am speaking figuratively.

#50 CanadianOne on 01.10.22 at 6:12 pm

Garth,

You haven’t changed, much. IMHO you do keep certain aspects of your mindset intact and steeped in tradition, observation from strictly your blog posts and the occasional meeting call you make available publicly.

The fact that you try and present current day events also suggests you aren’t exactly a monolithic thinker. Again just my observation.

As far as us being splintered in opinions as a society, we indeed have gone stratospheric and fragmented. Media does play an oversized role. A direct result of mistrust of institutions of yester years.

Technology valuations aside, the underlying science of many of the new technologies is indeed way above how our organization as a body of public policy (govt). Governments we choose (of any stripe) certainly lack the willingness, foresight and quiet simply understanding of how far behind we lag.

Revolution aka seismic shift IS inevitable. Next 20 years wont be much like the last 20.

Keep being YOU Garth,
Cheers.

#51 Doug t on 01.10.22 at 6:18 pm

Societal interactions have been crumbling for years and getting worse – people have a hair trigger and TPTB couldn’t be happier – they watch us lash out at each other and the focus stays off of them, they planned this years ago – the masses are braindead

#52 Prince Polo on 01.10.22 at 6:21 pm

Isn’t the bigger threat, the hordes of schmucks online who think that they know-it-all? Case in point, this pathetic comment in an equally pathetic steerage section.

I also find it very ironic that the wisdom that was wished for with age, didn’t arrive yet. Let’s circle back in a decade?

#53 Felix on 01.10.22 at 6:25 pm

Yes, cats are omens of great things to come.

Dogs just drag you into the black hole of the worst of history repeating itself.

#54 RG on 01.10.22 at 6:36 pm

I would like to see the unvaccinated strapped to gurneys and wheeled into arenas to get the jab before jeering crowds. But hey that’s just me!

#55 kommykim on 01.10.22 at 6:36 pm

I’d have more respect for Canadian Conservatives if they just stuck to fiscal conservatism and avoided mirroring the USA with all the pro-religion, pro-gun, and anti-science rhetoric.
I think this is what has happened to Jason and others: They end up swallowing the entire jug of KoolAid rather than just taking a sip.

#56 the Jaguar on 01.10.22 at 6:37 pm

“You are a wonderful person. I can count you as one of the most beneficially positive influences in my life. I am much better off in life because of you, and your tenacious voice of reason. I am one just one of so many people that you and your magnificent blog have helped. It’s a national treasure and so are you.”…….

Followed by ” I expect better of you….”Most of your additional rhetoric is equally flawed..”

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A national treasure, huh? Didn’t Dorothy recently offer up the word ” insufferable’?

There is something about reading Jason’s comments that is reminiscent of “..always either at your throat or at your feet. Smarmy and ingratiating as hell right up to the point of throwing you under the bus.

Makes me want to sprint to the exits or reach for my Smith & Wesson Model 29.

But how about those two gorgeous cats? Talk about Omens. It really is the Year of the Tiger.

#57 RichardTO on 01.10.22 at 6:38 pm

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#58 THE DANDADA on 01.10.22 at 6:41 pm

#30 When Will They Raise Rates? on 01.10.22 at 5:17 pm

Define “mandatory”.
– If you walk and breath on Canadian soil you MUST be vaccinated.

What will be done to those who refuse?
– Can’t work, can’t collect government subsidies, no drivers license, no health card, not allowed on any public transportation. You will be able to however live freely in sanctuaries built in the Arctic just for the un-vaxed.

What level of tyranny are you comfortable with?
– ALL of the above.

#59 George S on 01.10.22 at 6:45 pm

I am not sure why when you advise people to listen to a financial expert (you) to improve their financial well being you are a wonderful person without adequate words to describe the wonderfulness and then when you advise people to listen to infectious disease experts and epidemiologists for advice on how to improve their health outcomes from a unique never before seen disease pandemic you are satan.

It seems to me people have too much time on their hands.

It is common for people to think that if they are an expert in one field like business that they can apply their expertise to another field like infectious disease and vaccines. In the world of science it is known as “Nobel Disease” and can be a problem.

It seems to me that if you have a pool of unvaccinated humans of whatever age the disease will be harder to eliminate. It will just hang around in the unvaccinated pool and invest the vaccinated people that are susceptible to it.

#60 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.10.22 at 6:53 pm

@#41 Sunshowers

“Nobody has ever complained to me about wait times for surgeries, procedures, or referrals for medically necessary procedures.”
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Pray tell.
What mythical town in Canada does one have 1 hr waits in ER and no one complains about medical wait times?

#61 Bob in Hamilton on 01.10.22 at 7:00 pm

Yes, Garth, you have changed tremendously. You used to post nice photos of real babes! Now, just cats and dogs….sigh, yes it is truly over!!

#62 IHCTD9 on 01.10.22 at 7:04 pm

COVID bores me to death, but one interesting note on all the precautions: No one here at the bunker complex has had a cold since the fall of 2019. Everyone either goes to work or school 5 days per week, 4 unique destinations. Not a sniffle in almost 2.5 years. Pretty much the only good thing I can note throughout this whole debacle.

#63 Unvaccinated on 01.10.22 at 7:06 pm

Government corruption and waste would have paid many times over for brand new shiny hospitals with enough ICU beds to cater for all.
Just watch Pierre Poilievre questioning JT2 cabinet minister.

Yet nobody pays attention to accountability, integrity and responsibility of this government. You’ll busy pointing fingers and accusing each other.

Divide and conquer, fear mongering and losing constitutional freedoms are now the norm.

#64 The West on 01.10.22 at 7:07 pm

#196 Diamond Dogs

Mother nature is absolutely capable, as a species we are beholden to her good graces – that will never change. And if Mother Nature did this, totalitarian overreach is going to save us?

I don’t understand your position.

#65 AccidentalAmerican on 01.10.22 at 7:10 pm

#272 Sail Away on 01.10.22 at 4:05 pm
#262 AccidentalAmerican on 01.10.22 at 3:02 pm
#255 Sail Away on 01.10.22 at 1:55 pm

“Reminder to all US citizens to file your FBARs. Easy to do, and peace of mind. It’s all e-file now.”

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There are thousands of Canadians such as myself who happen to have been born in the USA, but never lived there as adults, have Canadian only parents, and identify only as Canadian. Most of them do not file US tax returns or FBARS and never have. To start doing so opens up a big can of worms and expense which well outweighs any gains.

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Hey, live your life the way you want, but US citizenship is a huge advantage. Some financial benefits to being a dual citizen in good standing, include, but are not limited to:

1. Registered IRA, Roth IRA, pension and 529 Education Plan accounts in the US
2. Registered RRSP, TFSA, pension and RESP accounts in Canada
3. Social security from US gov’t
4. CPP plus OAS from Canadian gov’t
5. Access to US Government Series I savings bonds, currently paying 7.12%
6. Much, much, much less expensive and more varied real estate

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Whether US citizenship is a benefit or not mostly depends on whether or not one wants to leave the option open with respect to residing in the USA. Many Canadians with US citizenship don’t ever plan to live in USA.

To get back to your suggestion that all CDN/US dual citizens residing in Canada should file FBARS and tax returns, Accidental Americans (Canadians with a US birth place or Canadians born in Canada with a US parent – but who left USA as infants or children) won’t have worked in the USA thus won’t have accrued social security benefits or have IRA’s or US education plans.

For those dual citizens who left as adults(not “accidentals”) and accrued social security benefits, it is not a requirement to have continued to file US tax returns(on non-US income) or FBARS to collect their social security benefits.

#66 Flop… on 01.10.22 at 7:12 pm

So my job today was to remove antivaxx signs that had been stuck to my workplace.

Thanks for the work.

Small request.

Next time can you do it on a sunny day.

M47BC

#67 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.10.22 at 7:13 pm

@#41 Sunshowers

Medical wait Times ( that will get worse as Boomers age and the Covid back log of surgeries comes back to bite)

Nova Scotia Knee Replacement : 710 days average

Quebec Surgery wait times quadruple

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/analysis-number-of-quebecers-waiting-more-than-a-year-for-surgery-more-than-quadruples

Ontario wait times for cataract , hip, cancer surgeries…
Throw hundreds of millions at it…..how many times can they do that before they break the bank?

https://www.thewhig.com/news/local-news/province-invests-324-million-to-decrease-surgery-wait-times

BC Surgery wait times extended as elective surgeries are cancelled.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8471850/bc-covid-surgery-cancelled-reaction/

One person admitted they are spending $30,000 to fly to France to get the surgery on their back done, because they waited 3 YEARS here with agonizing back pain.

Again I ask.
If Canadians can afford to PAY for immediate health care why should they spend the money outside of Canada?

#68 Odif Yltsaeb on 01.10.22 at 7:14 pm

Jason can be a multimillionaire, but money doesn’t buy intelligence. Vaccines are safe, millions of kids already took it, my own 6 year old took it, its not about protecting seniors, kids can get sick and die too, just a much smaller chance.

Thanks for following science based medicine on this topic Garth.

#69 Justin on 01.10.22 at 7:15 pm

“We will soon have people-atory people-dates. Sunny days everyone!” – Justin

#70 OK, Doomer on 01.10.22 at 7:19 pm

Someone once said that the moment of victory looks indistinguishable from the moment of defeat.

After reading the silliness on both sides over the last couple of days, I think we’re there.

Choose victory.

#71 Police State on 01.10.22 at 7:23 pm

#4 TurnerNation on 01.10.22 at 4:27 pm

–Life in Kanada: some hardened criminals here. Their crime? Having fun. Comrades sign your confessions and name your collaborators.

.The Globe and Mail reports in its Saturday edition that the federal government is continuing to investigate the behaviour of passengers aboard a chartered Sunwing flight from Montreal to Mexico, as the government confirms that 27 of the 130 passengers have returned to Canada…each one was stopped and “interrogated” at the border. (stockwatch.com)

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This is more chilling than you might think. CBSA officer friend confirms it – government instructed them to be flagged in the system and singled out at entry. In spite of the fact they broke no immigration laws whatsoever and represent zero threat in that regard.

Complete overreach. There are agencies (PHAC, Transport Canada, etc) to deal with their massive (sarc) crimes. But using a government apparatus to essentially surveil and threaten specific individuals because they don’t toe the line of your ideology is something straight outta Putin’s playbook.

Canada is well on it’s way down the toilet. Shameful.

#72 Ustabe on 01.10.22 at 7:25 pm

#1 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.10.22 at 4:20 pm

Most Canadians that can AFFORD to pay for healthcare CAN”T GET IT.

Our “glorius free health” care is broken.
God help you if your doctor retires.
God help you if something serious needs attention.
Take a number.

There you go, extrapolating the results of your life onto all of Canada. My doctor is a partner in a clinic of about 7 doctors. When one decides to retire they bring on another doctor and slowly, over about a year, they transition retiring guy’s patients over to new guy. Then they all sit down and decide if they can absorb now patients without compromising care. In over two decades I’ve never waited more than a couple of days for an appointment, I have a choice, even through all this, of telephone or in person.

#21 Barb on 01.10.22 at 4:57 pm

Jason’s one of those guys who got rich.
And miserable,/i>

Lots of those around, eh? Trouble is the rich doesn’t spread around much but the miserable sure does.

#73 Ustabe on 01.10.22 at 7:30 pm

#49 Doug t on 01.10.22 at 6:18 pm

Societal interactions have been crumbling for years and getting worse – people have a hair trigger and TPTB couldn’t be happier – they watch us lash out at each other and the focus stays off of them, they planned this years ago – the masses are braindead

Not sure I’m willing to say that out loud but I sure do not disagree with you. Almost point by point textbook steps toward authoritarianism.

#74 Andy on 01.10.22 at 7:30 pm

They can’t make vaccines mandatory in Canada because the 1960 Bill of Rights, it enshrines ‘security of the person’. Case closed. It’s also the law of the jungle.

Immunization against measles, mumps and rubella is required by law for all children attending school in Ontario. So much for that argument. – Garth

#75 cuke and tomato picker e on 01.10.22 at 7:33 pm

According to the Calgary Sun Alberta had 17577 covid
cases since Friday Jan. 7th B.C. has not posted our numbers yet.

#76 Father's Daugther on 01.10.22 at 7:38 pm

#43 Linda on 01.10.22 at 5:59 pm
Cute blog photo of the day:)

Inflation is going to be a real game changer. Also the insane increases in the cost of housing of all sorts. Folks are being priced out of the market as rents are increased – not just due to pricing in overall increases to expenses like higher utilities etc. but to provide returns to investors. Not surprising, since RE has now become all about the money rather than providing a place to live. But given how many are living close to the edge financially, seems like affordable housing is going to be a real problem for a long time to come.

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Housing/COL is a huge concern among most of our peers, who are generally professionals with good salaries living in Southern Ontario. Can only imagine how people with lower salaries feel. Here in Niagara the prices seem to have basically doubled. Everything is insanely priced, whether buying or renting. Many considering leaving the province, or heading to the US, but frustrated to have to do so. There is going to be a lot of unrest when people realize that a basic standard of living is no longer within reach, even if they’ve done all of the right things.

#77 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.10.22 at 7:38 pm

Your BC Health dollar$$$$$ at work.

http://www.vch.ca/about-us/leadership/board-of-directors/board-members/dr-penny-ballem

Dr Penny Ballem former City of Vancouver manager has a nice well paid job at Vancouver Coastal Health as a media talking head.

I guess that massive “good bye gift” from the City of Vancouver couldnt keep her out of the lime light for long.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/penny-ballem-severance-city-manager-1.3229596

I’m sure she wouldn’t even consider a job at Coastal Health for anything under 250k per year.

Your Health dollar$$$$$ at work.

:)

#78 cuke and tomato picker on 01.10.22 at 7:41 pm

Vancouver Sun just posted our numbers since Friday we have 6966.

#79 Bob Loblaw on 01.10.22 at 7:41 pm

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#80 Cow Man on 01.10.22 at 7:43 pm

Sir Garth:

The Garth that I have known since 1988 is the one out lined in the first post of 2020.

How many MP’s respond to their constituents with hand written notes ? Garth Turner did correspond with me by hand written note in 1989. I doubt Garth, that your dedication to others has changed over the past 33 years.

#81 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 7:45 pm

Here’s some inflation talk for Mish:

https://mishtalk.com/economics/fed-operations-look-more-like-a-ponzi-scheme-than-bitcoin-or-ethereum

The chart titled “Price Stability at 2% Inflation” shows that $50,000 becomes $350,000 in something around 100 years. 100 years is a long time, but a 600% increase is also a lot.

The article contains a number of other interesting charts, but also a warning: Bitcoin will be close to useless if the government bans it as a means of exchange. Not worthless necessarily, but useless. Sort of like gold.

Meanwhile back in Calgary I just paid $1.385 per liter for some gasoline. 87 stuff, the 91 was way more, over $1.50. I bet everyone is looking forward with anticipation to the next phase of the carbon tax which will push it to $1.495 for the 87 stuff and $1.61 for the 91. Similar increases are coming to heating and power too. How is this not inflationary?

The good news is that it makes energy less “volatile”. The price you pay will stay high no matter what happens to the price of a barrel of oil.

#82 Bob on 01.10.22 at 7:53 pm

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#83 Quintilian on 01.10.22 at 7:56 pm

“Looks like a quarter point pop in March for both countries.”

Not sure how a squirt gun is going to put out an inferno.

Inflation will likely pick up exponentially.
How many puny quarter points “pops” would it take to tame inflation running at warp speed?

Even assuming that the Central Bankers would be happy with 2% inflation, It would take many increases at rapid fire.

The Central Bankers can only shoot blanks- Idle threats?

And governments have used up all their fiscal fire power.

#84 leebow on 01.10.22 at 7:57 pm

#49 Doug t
#50 Prince Polo
#60 Ustabe

Totally. People take themselves too seriously. We developed some bizarre aggressive form of neorationalism, where everything and anything is treated as a counterexample and a prove of malicious intent.

But guess what, science is empirical. That’s just the way it is. We can’t explain a lot of things, but still put them to use. Hence, we gotta accept some statistical aberrations. People are way too goofy to create a shadow world government, so there isn’t one.

#85 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.10.22 at 8:02 pm

#236 the Jaguar on 01.10.22 at 11:29 am
@#227 Sail Away on 01.10.22 at 10:42 am
Like the movie ‘Nomad’, but with more $$
Sometimes the things we own really ‘own us’.
I admire what your friends are doing. A reduced footprint can never be the wrong decision.
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Sure, it may be a life style choice for the few.
But most people still have to hold the Fort.
Did not think, that the Gypsy, eh Roma lifestyle is something people aspire to.
When we were kids, we periodically had them camping outside our town.
We threw stones at them.
Kids can be cruel.
But I have to admit, the idea of just packing up and hitting the road is appealing.
Just leaving everything behind, and be “free”.
But then you realize, “freedom” is inside.
Running away is not the solution.

#86 mike from mtl on 01.10.22 at 8:06 pm

Des chats en plus ? L’année du tigre commencera.

#87 Pig Without Lipstick on 01.10.22 at 8:09 pm

Garth,
We are supposed to be convinced that 4 hospitalizations per 100,000 infections justifies vaccinating children???

How can a boster shot for alpha protect against delta or omicron?

We know the shot reduces the risk of serious illness. But we also know it causes significant harm to some of the people some of the time or maybe minor harm, at minimum to all the people all the time. That we don’t know, but the question is legitimate.

Within two weeks of being double vaccinated I was not considered vaccinated. By 3 months I needed a booster. 10 weeks of moderate efficacy? How this pattern ends the pandemic I have not heard anyone compellingly address. A leaky vaccine cannot end the pandemic. Why aren’t we approving repurposed drugs that have been used with great effect to complement measures in place.

Effective use of repurposed drugs,even on their own, may be a more effective treatment against the vaccine and possibly a better alternative to the vaccine. Stonewalling this possibility is perhaps the real harm and causing significant suffering which the aged and vulnerable are bemoaning.

#88 Diamond Dog on 01.10.22 at 8:11 pm

I’m time pressed for a few days and have a major desire to look into crypto corruption for a few days following (it’s much worse than most realize. I see for example, an obvious alt coin Ponzi that peaked with a 132 billion cap last year and I didn’t look that hard.

It’s a bit early to drop names, but Richard Heart for example is running one of the most successful Ponzi’s that we’ll ever see [Hex coin, high interest savings (40%)] and it will come to a bad end for everyone but him (in this existence anyway). The only question is when.

If readers want a taste of what kind of personality and background it takes to steal at this scale (in the billions), fill your boots. Once again, this “industry” is rife with corruption. “If you play with pigs, you will get dirty”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_NQNDKMJTE

I can’t give Covid19 much time now other than to say that the numbers given with Delta relate to historical reference reaffirming the need and justification for government policy in giving the pandemic the seriousness it deserves.

We need a ball park of the numbers of symptomatic, asymptomatic, hospitalizations and deaths to establish whether the government response we’ve witnessed since the pandemic has been justified. Right? A big part of it is in exercising our democratic right to hold our governments to account.

Just based off of CDC estimates of 7.5 million hospitalizations and 920,000 dead since the pandemic began (to late Sept), one can easily say when one removes fatalities, that 4+ million recovered from pneumonia. The U.S. can’t afford to have 1% of it’s population recover from pneumonia and .25 to .3% die annually. It’s far too disruptive obviously not to mention Garth’s point of displacing people with other health needs. Put these numbers over 5+ years and we have our justification.

If governments hadn’t in the minds of some “over reacted”, we wouldn’t have been ready for Omicron. That’s just a blatant fact! There has been a tremendous push by governments the world over for high vaccination rates. It turns out to the credit of high vaccination rate policies combined with a Delta variant mutating into something super contagious, that governments were right.

I will remind, this won’t sit well for the political leanings of some. Politics has always been a debate or argument for more of the same (status quo) vs change. Arguments for change has morphed for some into consumers of the argument developing a complete distrust of government with anything it does and that’s shameful because our institutions are here to serve us. Who is putting us up to believing in such extremes?

It’s like imagining what the world is like without the rule of law or systems in place to keep people from living on the streets. I’m not saying the system is perfect by any means, far from it. There is major need for improvement.

Look at how for example, the U.S. regulates corporations. Governments aren’t regulating much anymore, its all gone to self regulation now. PFOA’s, forever chemicals, opioid crisis, environmental pollution, added sugars and fructose plus dangerous emulsifiers in the food supply, the failures we see from poisoned water air and land and double digit diabetes and 40+% obesity etc. are all products of poor government regulation once again, to who’s benefit?

Corporations aren’t Ebay users here, there is no feedback keeping them honest and this failed experiment is coming back to haunt us all including the CEO’s who think karma is for the next life or heathen CEO’s who don’t believe in karma at all. I’m talking about massive government failures to regulate.

The laws keeping corporations from the reach of class action isn’t helping, it’s consumer beware but there are issues that are becoming so large in scale that us plebs have no choice but to be skeptical and political currents and forces are feeding it towards a complete and total breakdown of trust to what end? Form the next government. There are dark motives at play here hiding the true underbelly of corruption:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWgg4rem5s

But I wander. Cost and policy is always up for debate (Libs spent far too much money as an example and it’s crippled our treasury) but the need for vaccines when data is overwhelmingly in support of vaccines not just with Omicron but the entire vaccine schedule with children, the debate for the need for vaccines is over.

We don’t trust vaccines, imagine a world without them. We don’t trust governments, imagine a world once again, without them. Then imagine a world if no one works to try to improve them. This is why for example, people have grown to respect Garth not so much for successes but because he tried.

Us plebs need to check ourselves when we hear arguments that run counter to proven success. In the same breath, we need to check ourselves and be proactive when we see failure within governments and nothing is being done. More than ever, we need leaders to step up and show us how. We will know them by their works.

#89 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.10.22 at 8:11 pm

NFL stadia are full.
No masks in sight.
While the country is being overwhelmed by a lockdown caused by Omicron, because workers are staying home cause of COVID infections.
So far we doing ok in BC.
Knock on Wood!

#90 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 8:13 pm

#64 Flop… on 01.10.22 at 7:12 pm
So my job today was to remove antivaxx signs that had been stuck to my workplace.

Thanks for the work.

Small request.

Next time can you do it on a sunny day.

M47BC

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According to the broken window theory this is good for the economy.

#91 STOP BULLYING on 01.10.22 at 8:13 pm

I am tired of being bullied to get vaccinated.

SHUT THE HELL UP!

I will put into my body what I want to put in my body.

That is how it works. END OF. Go BOOST yourself!

Also “mistrustful and frustrated”?

The mistrust was fully earned by our incompetent so called leaders. $400B spent, not a single new hospital to show for it. Not even a tent one.

Frustrated? I can’t wait till the kids take this one out on the politicians. It’s coming.

#92 Dogman01 on 01.10.22 at 8:15 pm

#79 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 7:45 pm

“The good news is that it makes energy less “volatile”. The price you pay will stay high no matter what happens to the price of a barrel of oil.”

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Interesting how no one talks about carbon Tax when it is -30 in this country…as it will merit them a punch in the face.

My Utility bills have so many fees , riders and add-ons that using more electricity, more water or more natural gas makes only a small any impact on the total bill.

#93 Hearsay on 01.10.22 at 8:16 pm

You got Covid after being vaccinated and didn’t die or end up in ICU. And you say vaccines don’t work? Seriously? – Garth

Prove it was the vaccine that “worked” and not his natal immune system?

Seems to me like at least 99% of the people were brushing Covid off with ease before the vaccine was even here.

#94 Pandemia Bob on 01.10.22 at 8:17 pm

If anyone believes that even 100% vaccination rates are going to end this pandemic they are mistaken.These vaccines are non sterilizing and therefore can NEVER create herd immunity.Trudeau and the vaccine cult need a scapegoat in the face of failing efficacy of the shots.Sorry folks you’ve been played from the start of this mess.

#95 Nelson on 01.10.22 at 8:17 pm

Anti-vaxxers make me sad for humanity.

It’s an itty bitty jab in the arm.

The anger and vitriol and war-like rhetoric that people are willing to spew to hide the fact that they are cowards afraid of needles – it’s mind-boggling.

As for Jason’s assertion that “Forcing 5 year olds to risk themselves to protect seniors is immoral” – you shouldn’t bring a child into the world if you are unwilling to teach that child that there is sometimes a ‘greater good’ for which we must act. Suck it up.

Some of the seniors your 5 year old’s vaccine will protect went to war and risked their lives to protect others. They lost friends who never got to return to their own 5 year olds.

Give your head a shake Jason.

#96 Cici on 01.10.22 at 8:20 pm

Fear drives anger and so does boredom.

People hate being scared and bored, so they’d rather be pissed off.

I back everything you said yesterday, Garth. But I too am sick of Omni and every other COVID variant, and of how this slimy pathogen has affected most areas of our lives.

People just want it to be over, but as Soren Angst/Dolce Vita likes to remind us, we can’t just wish this virus away. So people ignore the facts and data coming out from the experts, make up their own facts and data, spread it through social media and then like a chain reaction, more and more desperados chime in and the winless game continues.

Fear, frustration, anger, arrogance, conspiracy theories, societal division and certain politicians on various sides of the spectrum who sweep in like vultures for a feeding frenzy.

If there were ever a time to practice self-control and rational thought, now would be that time. Father Garth has said this will end, so end it must, and hopefully soon. Hang in there and if you start to spiral, settle down and enjoy the moment, and then start preparing for the 180 degree shift that’s coming when this pandemic turns endemic or at least starts dying down. Lots of planning to do guys, so keep it together.

#97 When Will They Raise Rates? on 01.10.22 at 8:22 pm

#56 THE DANDADA on 01.10.22 at 6:41 pm

#30 When Will They Raise Rates? on 01.10.22 at 5:17 pm

Define “mandatory”.
– If you walk and breath on Canadian soil you MUST be vaccinated.

What will be done to those who refuse?
– Can’t work, can’t collect government subsidies, no drivers license, no health card, not allowed on any public transportation. You will be able to however live freely in sanctuaries built in the Arctic just for the un-vaxed.

What level of tyranny are you comfortable with?
– ALL of the above

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You fool. If you give the government that power, it’s just a matter of time before they screw you over too.

Idiot.

#98 I’m stupid on 01.10.22 at 8:25 pm

I don’t want to sound insensitive but this pandemic has proven that everyone does what’s in their best interest. I’m just happy that the cumba ya crowd (the 20 somethings that want to work together, share everything, blame the boomers for destroying the earth etc etc)is off their high horses.

Remember this society is always 2 weeks away from collapse. 2 weeks is the time it takes for starvation to make anyone capable of doing anything. Don’t eat for 2 weeks and your dog will be on the dinner table or you will kill your neighbour for a slice of bread. You can dress a wolf in sheep’s clothing but it’s still a wolf.

What I don’t understand is why Garth’s opinion matters so much to Jason. At the end of the day opinions are like butt holes everyone has one. I will continue to do what is best for me because I learned a long time ago that no one cares about anyone but themselves.

#99 Millennial 1%er on 01.10.22 at 8:27 pm

I mean Jason _does_ have a point about 5 year olds..

#100 Unvaccinated on 01.10.22 at 8:28 pm

Immunization against measles, mumps and rubella is required by law for all children attending school in Ontario. So much for that argument. – Garth

Ontario is the only province with compulsory vaccination. And yet, everyone can opt out citing religion, concise or personal belief as a reason. So much for this argument

If you are vaccinated, you are protected? Or they lied to you?

Why natural immunity, recognized in many countries, is tossed away in Canada? Is Canadian science different? I only see difference of opinions, not actual science.

#101 Sunwing Spam on 01.10.22 at 8:30 pm

Just got a lovely email from Sunwing Vacations.

Subject: “Must-Visit Destinations for 2022”

Hook? “Bucket List Experiences For The Thrill-seeking Traveller”

What do you mean? I kick the bucket and die of a new variant?

Thrills as I seek a new variant remotely? Maybe bring it back with me?

#102 Cici on 01.10.22 at 8:33 pm

One more thing, about the kids. I’ve vaccinated mine (one dose). Next dose is scheduled for the end of the month. Why wouldn’t I? He’s five and had to get other vaccines to protect him from other illnesses at the beginning of the school year.

Besides, lots of kids are being hospitalized due to Omicron here in Québec, which like Ontario, has been hard-hit by the pandemic. If getting him vaxxed increases the risk of keeping him out of the hospital, that’s winner for all of society, especially for the kids with congenital illnesses and ailments who desperately need access to treatment.

And the sooner we can get them all back to school, the better. Kids need more active social time and less screen time. Online learning just sucks for everyone.

OK, I’m outta here. Sorry for blah-bing!

#103 DM on 01.10.22 at 8:40 pm

They can’t make vaccines mandatory in Canada because the 1960 Bill of Rights, it enshrines ‘security of the person’. Case closed. It’s also the law of the jungle.

Immunization against measles, mumps and rubella is required by law for all children attending school in Ontario. So much for that argument. – Garth
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Measles, mumps and rubella are not experimental vaccines. This mRNA global experiment is ending in 2023 at the earliest when some of the clinical studies are completed. Until then, these vaccines are experimental.
So much for that argument.

#104 Drinking on 01.10.22 at 8:41 pm

I am double vexed, yes, forced to due (job and contracts).What I really have an issue with is that one half if not more of doctors, scientists, virologist etc that had questions about the shot (we can all agree that this not a vaccine) a vaccine in which I had every shot imageable seems to work, although I have had the german and red measles; chicken pox, never mind, the ones vocal that are extremely educated, were respected are now victimized by the usual small but powerful interst groups??? There was a time where many clapped and saluted our front line workers who risked there lives for those only to have them criminalized the next week by imbecilic a holes, meaning left wing media.
I ask again in a typical cold and flu season; second year in a row, what ever happened to it??? It magically disappeared??? Yes, there is Covid but the stats, yes the stats, due NOT warrant what society has gone through! Wake Up!

#105 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.10.22 at 8:42 pm

Hmmmm

How many Canadians DIED last year waiting for surgery?
It depends on which province you live in …. to get an answer…

https://theprovince.com/opinion/columnists/craig-canadians-are-dying-while-they-wait-for-surgery/wcm/12bc8a41-6fd5-46ec-a4bd-2ac06ea8a795?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads

#106 Gravy Train on 01.10.22 at 8:45 pm

#79 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 7:45 pm
“[…] I bet everyone is looking forward with anticipation to the next phase of the carbon tax […]. Similar increases are coming to heating and power too. How is this not inflationary? The good news is that it makes energy less “volatile”. The price you pay will stay high no matter what happens to the price of a barrel of oil.” My home-heating costs were cut in half when I bought solar panels. I thought an engineer (like yourself) is supposed to be an adaptive, proactive problem-solver, not a helpless whiny little baby. :P

#107 David on 01.10.22 at 8:49 pm

With my better half associated with the largest kids hospital in Ontario I can assure you there isn’t a single physician that has not vaccinated their 5-11 there.

Don’t be a fool and vaccinate as all the smart people have done including my trio.

Why risk the unknown when potential producenter of this virus is testing 14 million people after finding 2 cases, think long and hard but it seems they don’t want to risk it.

#108 Faron on 01.10.22 at 8:56 pm

Garth, did you consider that Lead Paint has been indulging in his namesake since you first communicated thus leading to such rabid outbursts?

Including Garth, of course, thanks Ustabe, KLNR and wrk.dover (with a chance of IHCTD9) for helping us all chuckle when others get shrill. Who could have foreseen that a pandemic and the vaccine could have caused so much meta-strife? Oh, the EIS, that’s who. Yes all you conspiracy minded folk, your actions and thoughts were foreseen (probs the 5G). Maybe your transparency and predictability was the conspiracy? Talk about meta.

#109 Faron on 01.10.22 at 9:02 pm

#79 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 7:45 pm

How is this not inflationary?

It’s not inflationary because the tax is rev neutral. The presence of the tax is to encourage/discourage behaviour, not extract more dollars out of people’s wallets.

It’s also potentially deflationary because the cost of the tax will be more than repaid by lower particulates as emissions drop and lower cost of living in a world that’s not completely borked by climate change. But understanding that requires second and third order thinking that isn’t supplied by ZeroHedge, so I doubt you will “believe in” what I am telling you.

Glad I could help you.

#110 Look in the mirror on 01.10.22 at 9:06 pm

#70 Ustabe on 01.10.22 at 7:25 pm

There you go, extrapolating the results of your life onto all of Canada.

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Like pretty much all of your posts, you mean?

#111 twofatcats on 01.10.22 at 9:10 pm

Jan 10 Today’s flipped ‘Principal Residences’

https://housesigma.com/web/en/house/Z5BX32zP46w3Dar0/57-Meadowlark-Dr-Brampton-L6Y4A3-W5459927

https://housesigma.com/web/en/house/1DBW7RDOBnDYqlAp/175-Bluebell-Cres-Hamilton-L9K1E8-X5441902-X5441902-H4122245

https://housesigma.com/web/en/house/DO1w3WqK2mny8Jg0/196-Albert-St-Oshawa-L1H4R5-E5461832

https://housesigma.com/web/en/house/XRla7gxqW663jEvL/297-BLUEVALE-Street-N-D-Waterloo-N2J4H6-40196297

https://housesigma.com/web/en/house/0A9X3jPOz2wyvgxV/381-GRANTHAM-Avenue-St-Catharines-40197622-X5466744

#112 Shirl Clarts on 01.10.22 at 9:27 pm

#24 DUFFR on 01.10.22 at 5:02 pm
#10 BOB

You are a good example of why some people should not have kids. You take precautions to protect yourself but find excuses for not protecting your own kids who quite possibly are below the age of reason.

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Bob is not criticizing others for jabbing their kids. He’s just saying the benefit doesn’t outweigh the risk. And I agree as do many parents/guardians. Their kids their choice.

mRNA is too experimental for young developing bodies.

#113 CL on 01.10.22 at 9:27 pm

Walmart grocery shelves are already emptying due to the trucker vacc mandate. They will have to reverse it and soon!! or this will become a larger problem than many realize.

#114 DON on 01.10.22 at 9:30 pm

Jason comment’s raised my eyebrow when I came accross it – I had the same questions as every parent.

I have researched far and wide and still have questions. It’s a journey you have to reach on your own given the information. And, it is most definitely not one I took lightly. My trust factor is always watching out for liars or senseless data.

The part about immoral was hot headed, nothing more than a petulant child lashing out and pushing buttons. Well pushed buttons at that. I didn’t think the blog was speaking directly about kids shots = misplaced anger.

People are getting worn down and are snapping, imagine if there was a war. Now that the inflation monkey is on everyone’s shoulders, more stress ahead.

#115 april on 01.10.22 at 9:43 pm

#20 That is such a ridiculous, ignorant statement “punish the children to protect the elderly”. It’s not about punishing anyone. Vaccinating children is to protect them as well as everyone else.

#116 bdwy on 01.10.22 at 9:43 pm

double digit diabetes and 40+% obesity etc. are all products of poor government regulation

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while you made some valid points in this post you are my sworn emeny if you truly believe in the above quote.

can you tell the difference between an apple and a snickers?

sickening. repulsive. why so terrified of personal responsibility?

please move to north korea asap. you don’t belong in a free country.

#117 poll on 01.10.22 at 9:45 pm

How about a poll Garth? But one that the MSM is afraid to ask.

Questions like:

Do you believe vaccines will be the solution out of this?

How many boosters will be enough? (give few choices like 6, 8, 10, 12, more)

What year do you think you’ll have to stop getting vaccinated?

Do you trust our health officials?

Do you trust our politicians?

Do you think the restrictions and powers they have granted themselves will be rolled back?

Do you believe they are slowly rising the heat under the pot and transitioning from a free democracy into…something backwards?

Do you believe divide and conquer is being used on the mass populations?

Do you believe you’re being tracked more than ever?

Do you believe information about vaccines is being suppressed?

…you know…real questions that people would want to see answers to.

#118 Sail Away on 01.10.22 at 9:54 pm

#83 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.10.22 at 8:02 pm

Re: Retire, RV, and Relax

Sure, it may be a life style choice for the few.
But most people still have to hold the Fort.
Did not think, that the Gypsy, eh Roma lifestyle is something people aspire to.

But I have to admit, the idea of just packing up and hitting the road is appealing.
Just leaving everything behind, and be “free”.
But then you realize, “freedom” is inside.

Running away is not the solution.

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Hardly running away for our friends. They wrapped up their affairs in Alaska and are now traveling anywhere and everywhere in North America with no commitments and plenty of wealth.

When they get tired of the itinerant life and/or find the right place, they’ll stop and buy or build. They have a gigantic, endlessly interesting, multi-climate land to explore, and the perfect home on wheels with which to do it.

I feel the pull. And speaking from experience, that’s the way it always starts…

#119 april on 01.10.22 at 10:11 pm

#101 – Yes they can. It’s legal in a crisis to make changes to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. “Individual rights, even those protected by the Charter, are not absolute”.
Might be a smart idea to read it before making eroneous statements.

#120 DON on 01.10.22 at 10:24 pm

#76 cuke and tomato picker on 01.10.22 at 7:41 pm
Vancouver Sun just posted our numbers since Friday we have 6966

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6 66

The devil seems to be in the details….. Yikes! lol

#121 Linda on 01.10.22 at 10:29 pm

#74 ‘Father’s’ – I keep on reading about the crisis in affordable housing; keep on hearing of increased numbers of folks becoming homeless or having to choose between paying the rent & paying for other expenses like food, medication, utilities. Now homelessness is nothing new, but the sheer increase in volume surely is. Shelter has always been priced to what the market will bear. However there used to be a balance & a range of price points so those whose budgets were lower could still find a place to live. These days seems like that balance & range no longer exists. Scary!

#122 april on 01.10.22 at 10:38 pm

#92 – [The Myth of Sterilizing Immunity] The Atlantic. [We’re Asking the Impossible of Vaccines]
Vaccines, as with any medicine, are not 100%. If it prevents severe illness and death we should be grateful.

#123 IHCTD9 on 01.10.22 at 10:45 pm

A break from the CV wars…

Just watched “Yesterday”, I recommend it, decent movie if you’ve got nothing better to do. Pleasant and easy on the brain (unlike say, “The Witcher” series).

-16 outside, the pellet stove is cranked, and Charlie the Cat is basking in the firelight. Only thing missing is a bottle of white rum. Have to wait till Friday for that.

#124 Shawn on 01.10.22 at 10:59 pm

Dogman’s GDP and Inflation question

#47 Dogman01 on 01.10.22 at 6:09 pm

If Inflation is 7% (or even Canada’s 5%) and GDP growth is only 4%, does that mean a 3% (1%) shrink in the Nations GDP? Answer: no

Is the headline GDP numbers adjusted for Inflation? Answer: yes. The headline GDP percent increase is always meant to show the REAL growth in the economy assuming no price changes

Like how tax brackets creep down as money loses it value. Answer: what?

Like Bonds if they pay 3% and Inflation is 7% then is that not 4% negative result? Answer: no as above GDP is headline number is real growth.

So who would hold a 3.5% bond in a 5% Inflation world…. Answer: Someone who did not predict the inflation or who bought if for diversification or just made a dumb move.

#125 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 11:00 pm

#280 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 10:59 pm
For the record I am double vaxxed against both covid and socialism. I came by my immunity to carbon taxes naturally. I haven’t got the covid booster yet, but not because I am opposed to it, more because it just seems less pressing seeing as I am considered “fully vaxxed” by the medical community. I even have proof, so I can go in restaurants and sporting events, although that wasn’t why I did it. I was double vaxxed before “proof of vaccination” became a thing. If things don’t calm down shortly I probably will get the booster. It’s more laziness than any sort of opposition.

I know, weird hey? How can someone be opposed to carbon taxes and socialism and yet still get vaccinated? According to some people, you are either all woke or not woke at all, no in-betweens allowed! Well, it is because I can tell the difference between something that seems to work and seems like a good idea, and something that has been proven not to work and is a terrible idea.

#126 DON on 01.10.22 at 11:07 pm

#115 poll on 01.10.22 at 9:45 pm
How about a poll Garth? But one that the MSM is afraid to ask.

Questions like:

Do you believe vaccines will be the solution out of this?

How many boosters will be enough? (give few choices like 6, 8, 10, 12, more)

What year do you think you’ll have to stop getting vaccinated?

Do you trust our health officials?

Do you trust our politicians?

Do you think the restrictions and powers they have granted themselves will be rolled back?

Do you believe they are slowly rising the heat under the pot and transitioning from a free democracy into…something backwards?

Do you believe divide and conquer is being used on the mass populations?

Do you believe you’re being tracked more than ever?

Do you believe information about vaccines is being suppressed?

…you know…real questions that people would want to see answers to.

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If you build it Garth, they will come! Some for reasons not known and some seeking refuge. If you build it, they will come.

#127 Bye shes cold on 01.10.22 at 11:08 pm

Speaking of Omens, the 30yr Cdn bond almost cracked 2 percent.

Is it better to be an owner or a loaner?

#128 Puzzled in Mtl on 01.10.22 at 11:11 pm

Garth posts weekly pictures of cats because he secretly adopted a kitten (as a friend for Nova) and he does not dare tell us, dog lovers!

#129 Greg on 01.10.22 at 11:16 pm

I’d ya a joke bout covid-19 but there’s a 99.998% chance you wouldn’t get it! This blog has intelligent financial comments, medical, not very much.

Why argue…you may get your mandates, but you and without doubt your children will eventually regret it. This Covid charade that just magically showed up two years ago as some China bat virus is a hoax, and I think all of you know this. But some sort of incentives are persuading you to go along with it.

#130 Tomás de Torquemada on 01.10.22 at 11:18 pm

So official ‘inflation’ is over 7 %. Housing that accounts for over half of average family expenses is 25 %, which implies real inflation of 12-15 %.

And interest rates will rise from 0.25 % to potentially 1 %?

While CPP/OAP and other benefits rise by 2 %?

Think about it, you contributed not insignificant amount to CPP for example for long years, it grows nicely in the CPP investment fund and now you get peanuts in return that get eaten by inflation of 12-15 % while your pension is indexed by 1-2 %?

If this is not theft I don’t know what is.

And this is just starting. The longer we ignore the real inflation and the longer we do nothing about it, the worse it will become until cost of living kills you.
Wait, that was 6-10 years ago, now is getting much worse and that fast.

Absolutely nothing will come down in terms of nominal or real prices, on the countrify, inflation will only accelerate in 2022 and beyond, so get prepared for it.

Lies about ‘Peak’ inflation while it is just starting, about ‘transitory inflation’ or ‘supply chain bottleneck’ stupidities won’t help us, better learn valuable skills like fighting for bottles in the garbage bins.

Significant rate increase to even dent real inflation is not possible due to the amount of debt built and the monetary and banking system we ‘enjoy’.

3 decades ago debt was 30 % of GDP, not 130 %,

Increase of rates to 2 % in US alone will cause unbearable interest only payment of 720 billions + yearly.

To make debt serviceable the central ‘bankers’ need one time inflation of 250-400 %, total gradual/prolonged inflation for a decade or two of 400-600 % with interest rates staying low.

15 % yearly for a decade – decade and a half seems like a good start.

We will talk about ‘gains’, the economy ‘booming’ while inflation skyrockets and cost of living kills us, with rates stuck at near zero for a very long time.

Wait, we already witnessed that in the last decade/since 2008-009, the stock market and the economy ‘booming’, rates at zero and constant downplaying of inflation and talks about ‘imminent’ significant rate increases with nothing practical being down to normalize monetary policies.

Now the inflation will just spread beyond assets and widen, exploding in prices of necessities, exacerbated by green policies.

Watch food, energy inflation.

4-5 million average GTA shack is pretty much given, most likely just a few years away.

As for salaries and benefits, they are pretty much capped with taxes likely increasing.

The worse part is that this inflation, super credit cycle was forced intentionally by the governments and central banks through focused policies while openly lying to the public about it.

Time to reap what they sow.

Monetary policy was never intended as a tool to provide unlimited ‘liquidity’ by purchasing trash asset from irresponsible entities, being it public or private at top prices while suppressing artificially interest rates.

Market interest rates at the moment, if not for central ‘banks’ would be in double digits, potentially even higher than in the 80-es to account for the risk of real default. 15-18 %.

#131 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.10.22 at 11:23 pm

#76 cuke and tomato picker on 01.10.22 at 7:41 pm
Vancouver Sun just posted our numbers since Friday we have 6966.
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Yeah,
Thanks to Bonnie and Adrian.
Speedy recovery to Comrade Horgan.

#132 Keith on 01.10.22 at 11:23 pm

I will doubt the vaccine when doctors and nurses in hospitals around the world rise up together and plead through the media to end covid vaccinations. These people who claim almost the entire working medical profession, and hundreds of medical health officers in jurisdictions around the world have are ignorant, bought off or muzzled absolutely floor me. They turn somersaults of logic to justify their point of view.

#133 Smoking Bear on 01.10.22 at 11:26 pm

DELETED. Racism.

#134 Michael in-north-york on 01.10.22 at 11:30 pm

Immunization against measles, mumps and rubella is required by law for all children attending school in Ontario. So much for that argument. – Garth
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Technically, that doesn’t count as mandatory vaccination. You are allowed to home-school your children, although few people choose that path.

#135 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.11.22 at 12:00 am

134 Michael in-north-york on 01.10.22 at 11:30 pm
Immunization against measles, mumps and rubella is required by law for all children attending school in Ontario. So much for that argument. – Garth
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Technically, that doesn’t count as mandatory vaccination. You are allowed to home-school your children, although few people choose that path.
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You are a classified IDIOT.

#136 Garth of Izar on 01.11.22 at 12:13 am

Is Evergrande the best investment of 2022?

Given the financial shinagins since the 2008 financial wealth transfer, I think it is.

#137 Pandemic Is Over on 01.11.22 at 12:23 am

What can I say… The first Jason is 100% correct, but the second one has a point, too.

#138 Cat Man Do on 01.11.22 at 12:23 am

Have I changed? Or has the world changed you? Jaded, stressed, mistrustful and frustrated, so many are lashing out in a haze of emotion and self-interest.

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That is hilarious, Garth. You thought that self-interest isn’t the prime motivation of practically everyone, including Jason. Some just hide it better. You already knew about the role of emotion.

If Jason can bite the hand that feeds it, what about the others in steerage?

#139 The goose and the gander on 01.11.22 at 12:43 am

#10 Bob on 01.10.22 at 4:40 pm

I do think “Jason” has a point. I found the take-one-for-the-team argument fairly compelling for myself. I’d say it’s a large part of the reason I got myself vaxxed. But my kids? The ones who rely on me for everything? The ones who barely know what a virus or a vaccine is and have no ability to give informed consent? Not so much…
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Got it Bob, kinda like the old goose and the gander saying. No one said parenting was easy. Besides, you’ve never had a vaccine administered when you were still under your parents control?

Besides, I imagine when all of this started a year ago, you were one of the most vocal anti-Trumpsters … you know, back when it was fashionable to label anti-vaxers as exclusively Trumpsters! What a difference a year makes now that you “woke” up.

#140 AM in MN on 01.11.22 at 1:09 am

#55 kommykim on 01.10.22 at 6:36 pm

I’d have more respect for Canadian Conservatives if they just stuck to fiscal conservatism and avoided mirroring the USA with all the pro-religion, pro-gun, and anti-science rhetoric.

I think this is what has happened to Jason and others: They end up swallowing the entire jug of KoolAid rather than just taking a sip.

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The issue is freedom, you either seek it or you don’t. There is no “fiscal conservatism” without it. When everyone needs to obey the man from the ministry, there is no dynamism in the economy.

The left follows junk science, on almost every level. It is afraid of truth.

Western society was founded on freedom of the individual, but as called for and under the governing structures laid out in the bible. That’s what separates freedom (good) from chaos (bad). A people cannot be free if they are not self-regulating, or become prosperous if they are waiting for the govt. to look after them.

Canadian Conservatives would have a chance if they would adopt some of these very basic principles.

#141 the Jaguar on 01.11.22 at 1:27 am

Turner Nation, this one is for you. Front page of the NP:
Here is the headline for the article:

Jordan Peterson: “Open the damn country back up, before Canadians wreck something we can’t fix
The country is growing more authoritarian in response to fear.”

( p.s. – to ‘you know who’, this is not for you so try not to be triggered for once…. mind your own beeswax )

#142 the Jaguar on 01.11.22 at 1:45 am

Oh, and there’s this as well……….(gulp)

“The head of Canada’s largest bank says uncertainty wrought by the Omicron variant is making it difficult to generate economic forecasts, as the country struggles with rising COVID-19 hospitalizations, employee absences and new lockdown measures.

RBC chief executive Dave McKay made the comments Monday at the RBC Capital Markets Canadian Bank CEO Conference.

#143 short horses on 01.11.22 at 2:14 am

I’m still a happy renter with a globally diversified portfolio that includes a good mix of bonds, preferred shares, and broad exposure to different markets. Interest rates going up is no skin off my cat.

To the second point of today’s blog, one of my closest friends pre-Covid became someone I’m reluctant to talk to during Covid after he advised me to stock up on ivermectin and cautioned me against getting health information from the “mainstream internet” because Big Pharma owns Google. I think I’m among the fortunate few who disentangled from social media early.

#144 T-Man on 01.11.22 at 2:28 am

I went to a fast food joint today and ate in. Papers please, identification please, scanned my code. You may sit down and eat, citizen! This is about control, and how far they can push it. Creating hatred toward the unvaxxed, and laying blame. Omicron fear porn 24/7. Mob mentality rules. Businesses trained to enforce laws forced upon them. Went to local bar, not allowed to play pool, scan demanded or no service. Said to hell with it and went home. Welcome to Kanada.

#145 Rain on 01.11.22 at 2:38 am

Garth,

I, for one, am forever grateful for your tireless advice on the blog. My family is forever changed by your words of wisdom and perspective in the world. Thank you again for helping us find the path to financial freedom, which has allowed us to use the time that we have much better than worrying about money.

#146 Overheardyou on 01.11.22 at 4:02 am

Please do not let the voice of the few self interested cowards affect your voice of reason. The world needs more great people like you, Hon. Mr. Turner!

#147 Wrk.dover on 01.11.22 at 6:48 am

#123 IHCTD9 on 01.10.22 at 10:45 pm
A break from the CV wars…
Only thing missing is a bottle of white rum. Have to wait till Friday for that.
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50/50 vodka that. I blind set up 1/2 dozen nearby Russian Military toughs with high boys of that at an all inclusive bar to break the ice, what a drink off that developed into. One put the shirt off his back right on me. They had an Ipad that translated. They hadn’t heard of the Trump pee pee tapes though. When the Canadian I was standing with at the beginning of that left, he walked right into the wall, bounced off and did it again, (his name wasn’t Harvey Wallbanger). Security carried him home.

I miss vacations, but buy bank stock in lieu.

#148 thebarold on 01.11.22 at 7:09 am

Seems that there is an attitude that once people ‘get theirs’ they can only think about ‘me’ rather than ‘us’. Wonder why unemployment is so low and jobs are unfilled? Add back the excess deaths and you’ll probably see where those workers went. But that’s them and not me so I guess we shouldn’t care (mandatory /s)

#149 Immigrant man on 01.11.22 at 7:43 am

#125 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 11:00 pm

Yep, same story here. Double-vaxxed and getting a booster this afternoon. Got my shots at first opportunity and I would have done it just the same if there were no mandates.

The passport system will eventually do more harm then good. Yes, I am against government overreach, they never know when to stop, especially when its for the
“greater good”. “Pass port” used to be for travel, the only place that had a passport for internal ID and access to services was USSR. Bad model to replicate. Not worth the 5-10% extra vaxxed imo.

This discussion about our healthcare that Garth is hoping for. Ha! I wish. There are so many honest discussions that need to happen, not just about healthcare. Starting any of them is political suicide though cuz “racism”, “inequality”, “priviledge”, etc.

#150 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.11.22 at 7:56 am

I ordered some product from Asia for my company Oct 18
Usual wait time . 8 weeks for a local pickup.
Called the the local warehouse yesterday.

“It arrived in Vancouver Dec. 20/21 so it should be at our warehouse the last week of January…..”

8 weeks to come from Asia to Vancouver.
5 weeks to be placed on a truck and delivered 25 kms.

Have all the big rig drivers quit and gone to Amazon?

#151 Bob on 01.11.22 at 8:24 am

#139 The goose and the gander
Got it Bob, kinda like the old goose and the gander saying. No one said parenting was easy. Besides, you’ve never had a vaccine administered when you were still under your parents control?

Besides, I imagine when all of this started a year ago, you were one of the most vocal anti-Trumpsters … you know, back when it was fashionable to label anti-vaxers as exclusively Trumpsters! What a difference a year makes now that you “woke” up.

That’s amazing! I can’t believe how much you know about me from one little internet post. Please, do tell me more. I’m fascinated by your depth and clarity of insight.

#152 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.11.22 at 8:31 am

@#141 the jaguar

“Jordan Peterson: “Open the damn country back up, before Canadians wreck something we can’t fix
The country is growing more authoritarian in response to fear.””

+++

An unsurprising article about Canada’s descent into a bureaucratic hell hole.

One comment in the article that I agree with 100% and that all politicians and people of authority should take note of…

“we lack leadership, and rely on ultimately unreliable opinion polls to govern broadscale political policy. I’ve never seen breakdown in institutional trust on this scale before in my lifetime.”

Yep.
The politicians have earned the distrust and cynicism.
ANYONE in a position of authority is going to find it a whole lot harder to get public “buy in” after this two year ( and counting) shite show

Good luck during the next emergency when you will need public support.

#153 TurnerNation on 01.11.22 at 8:37 am

Want an omen? In Ontario few restaurants are even offering takeout this time around. No money to be made. They are locked up tight for good. This is the final economic lockdown, leading to a UBI – I’d expect in May.
The globalists have been unequivocal: they are “Non-Essential” to the New System.

— The Business of Sports. All the old culture must go Comrades.
Some wacky stuff I was posting back in 2020:

“#11 TurnerNation on 07.26.20 at 1:34 pm – Get this. Someone in late 60s apparently detailed part of the planned New System he was privy too.One part was that the only sport left would be soccer.
Toronto’s baseball team was banned from the country. If US shuts down this means no longer NHL, NBA, NFL. Which leaves…soccer (Europe)

…Soooo…in the news today:

https://www.tsn.ca/rick-westhead-citing-loses-of-more-than-1-billion-nhl-sues-insurers-over-rejected-covid-19-claims-1.1742015?tsn-amp
“Citing losses of more than $1 billion, NHL sues insurers over rejected COVID-19 claims”

.NHL postpones Jan. 15 game at Bell Centre, other matches in Canada due to COVID-19(montreal.ctvnews.ca)

— Life in Kanada. The Crime Wave continues. An illegal hockey game.
Remember folks we are heading into YEAR 3 of this Economic and Social reset, and it’s not designed to end.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8501639/dozens-of-covid-19-fines-possible-after-police-bust-illegal-hockey-game-at-laval-arena
“Dozens of COVID-19 fines possible after police bust illegal hockey game at Laval arena”

#154 Cold Flu on 01.11.22 at 8:46 am

#104 Drinking on 01.10.22 at 8:41 pm
I am double vexed, yes, forced to due (job and contracts).What I really have an issue with is that one half if not more of doctors, scientists, virologist etc that had questions about the shot (we can all agree that this not a vaccine) a vaccine in which I had every shot imageable seems to work, although I have had the german and red measles; chicken pox, never mind, the ones vocal that are extremely educated, were respected are now victimized by the usual small but powerful interst groups??? There was a time where many clapped and saluted our front line workers who risked there lives for those only to have them criminalized the next week by imbecilic a holes, meaning left wing media.
I ask again in a typical cold and flu season; second year in a row, what ever happened to it??? It magically disappeared??? Yes, there is Covid but the stats, yes the stats, due NOT warrant what society has gone through! Wake Up!

—-

Didn’t you hear? Flu cases went from 52,000 to…wait for it…69! Sexy.

If you don’t count, you don’t have a number to excite the masses with.

Just like Omicron…we didn’t count it (cold?) and now we do. So we see it.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/omicron-was-in-nova-scotia-wastewater-before-it-was-identified-in-south-africa

Either on purpose, or as usual…we’re always behind the ball when it comes to figuring out what nature has done.

I mean, look at us here. Universe is 13.8 billion years old, and we still don’t know how life started. Oh sure, 7 theories – that’s the best we got!

#155 52,000 -> 69 on 01.11.22 at 8:47 am

PHAC recorded 69 influenza detections in the 2020-21 flu season, in its final FluWatch report on Aug. 28. Normally, around 52,000 cases are detected.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8181383/flu-season-canada-covid-fall-2021/

What do you expect when everyone is wearing a mask and socially distancing? – Garth

#156 SunShowers on 01.11.22 at 9:14 am

#60 crowdedelevatorfartz
#67 crowdedelevatorfartz
“What mythical town in Canada does one have 1 hr waits in ER and no one complains about medical wait times?”

Any town where you actually need to USE those services yourself and aren’t just blindly believing right wing propagandized media.

Once again, it seems like you really should be backing a vaccine mandate, so anti-vax hicks aren’t taking up hospital beds that would otherwise go to these patients who need elective surgeries.

“Medice, cura te ipsum.”

#157 OK, Doomer on 01.11.22 at 9:24 am

#55 kommykim on 01.10.22 at 6:36 pm
I’d have more respect for Canadian Conservatives if they just stuck to fiscal conservatism and avoided mirroring the USA with all the pro-religion, pro-gun, and anti-science rhetoric.
I think this is what has happened to Jason and others: They end up swallowing the entire jug of KoolAid rather than just taking a sip.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I think if you stopped and really looked at the Conservative platform you’d find that they’re left of Bernie on the vast majority of social issues. The only difference is that Conservatives can do math.

If Canadian Conservatives were a U.S. political party they’d be classifies as hard left. We don’t really have a right or even center party in Canada.

#158 KLNR on 01.11.22 at 9:26 am

@#141 the Jaguar on 01.11.22 at 1:27 am
Turner Nation, this one is for you. Front page of the NP:
Here is the headline for the article:

Jordan Peterson: “Open the damn country back up, before Canadians wreck something we can’t fix
The country is growing more authoritarian in response to fear.”

( p.s. – to ‘you know who’, this is not for you so try not to be triggered for once…. mind your own beeswax )

JP fits in nicely with TN’s narrative.
2 peas in a pod.

#159 KLNR on 01.11.22 at 9:30 am

@#140 AM in MN on 01.11.22 at 1:09 am
#55 kommykim on 01.10.22 at 6:36 pm

I’d have more respect for Canadian Conservatives if they just stuck to fiscal conservatism and avoided mirroring the USA with all the pro-religion, pro-gun, and anti-science rhetoric.

I think this is what has happened to Jason and others: They end up swallowing the entire jug of KoolAid rather than just taking a sip.

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The issue is freedom, you either seek it or you don’t. There is no “fiscal conservatism” without it. When everyone needs to obey the man from the ministry, there is no dynamism in the economy.

The left follows junk science, on almost every level. It is afraid of truth.

Western society was founded on freedom of the individual, but as called for and under the governing structures laid out in the bible. That’s what separates freedom (good) from chaos (bad). A people cannot be free if they are not self-regulating, or become prosperous if they are waiting for the govt. to look after them.

Canadian Conservatives would have a chance if they would adopt some of these very basic principles.

nah, that’s not even close to reality.
freedom/bible stuff if just nonsense.
conservative leadership just needs to grow a spine, pick a lane and stick to it.

#160 KLNR on 01.11.22 at 9:38 am

@#110 Look in the mirror on 01.10.22 at 9:06 pm
#70 Ustabe on 01.10.22 at 7:25 pm

There you go, extrapolating the results of your life onto all of Canada.

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Like pretty much all of your posts, you mean?

nah, Ustabe’s post are much needed levity for this forum. You should be thanking him for his wisdom.

#161 Common Sense on 01.11.22 at 9:43 am

#140 AM in MN

Probably not worth debating an American on conservatism since I’m Canadian. However…

How is it “freedom” to dictate to people what they must do with their bodies, who they can love, who they can marry, or to live their lives aligned to the bible. Sounds no better than the Taliban to me.

American right wing conservatism is only “free” if you share the same ideals. Otherwise you are persecuted. Total hypocrisy and not real freedom at all.

True freedom is letting people live their lives, and a free society accepts ideological differences. It’s hard, but all things worthwhile usually are.

The only true conservatism is fiscal conservatism. Give people equal opportunities and let them be accountable for their choices and capabilities. Anything else is meddling in the personal lives of your neighbours.

#162 Comment on a comment on 01.11.22 at 9:47 am

#141 the Jaguar on 01.11.22 at 1:27 am
Turner Nation, this one is for you. Front page of the NP:
Here is the headline for the article:

Jordan Peterson: “Open the damn country back up, before Canadians wreck something we can’t fix
The country is growing more authoritarian in response to fear.”

( p.s. – to ‘you know who’, this is not for you so try not to be triggered for once…. mind your own beeswax )

You see the comments on that article Jag?

Here is the top one:

This country has an enemy and it’s not a virus. It’s Trudeau, an ultimate puppet of the WEF whose goal has been to use a scamdemic to bring about the great reset.

The lockdowns are part of the forced injections which are all about getting 100% people enrolled in the data passports which will then be used as digital ID tracking all your movements, social credits, carbon credits, and ultimately a digital currency. The roadmap is not a conspiracy theory and is detailed by the WEF and the IMF.

Sentiment in the country is turning I think.

This will turn into an uprising.

#163 KLNR on 01.11.22 at 9:50 am

@#37 Not-Vaccinated on 01.10.22 at 5:39 pm
It’s funny to read this pathetic blog and your opinions of the unvaccinated. Let me offer you a hand and provide some food for thought
– 40-50 age, University educated
– 200K+ income – and over 70K in taxes paid in 2021
– recovered from COVID, have very high level of antibodies after 6+ mon
– voted Conservative
– My body my choice – do not believe in experimental gene therapy that only slightly improves outcome

Governments took our liberties and violating constitutional rights. Take it for the team, but then never complain of your poor choice.
Invest in hospitals, build new like they do in China and Russia.

whatever you say Karen.

#164 Network Admin on 01.11.22 at 10:23 am

The reason some people are vaccine hesitant is a loss of trust in media. See that, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ZY3VWYKzQ.
That’s why for example, in Russia the % of vaccinated is much smaller (they never have a trust in media to begin with).
Note: every one in my family are vaccinated (including relatives in Russia)

#165 DUFFR on 01.11.22 at 10:34 am

#112 Shirl Clarts
For both of your children’s sake, I truly hope you are right.

#166 Vascism on 01.11.22 at 10:37 am

“This blog’s always been pro-vax”

Pro-vax is when you think the vax is good. Fascism is when you want everyone to take the vax. Stupid is when you think you can get away with whatever rationale to justify that

Think of society, instead of just yourself. That would be refreshing. – Garth

#167 Sail Away on 01.11.22 at 11:01 am

Timing gets a bad rap in investing, but it can have its place. For example, you’ll get a better value for your dollar today than you would last month. Buying the dip is timing.

Don’t become a timing fanatic, since as Doug noted on the weekend, markets can have long stretches of continuously new highs… but plugging in a little extra at dips for quality companies and index can supercharge returns.

My recent timing was buying Nasdaq index both Friday and yesterday, and Costco this morning. Q up 3% already. Depending on portfolio size, that can be a day, week, month salary equivalent, or, of course, much more.

#168 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.11.22 at 11:05 am

#155 52,000 -> 69 on 01.11.22 at 8:47 am
PHAC recorded 69 influenza detections in the 2020-21 flu season, in its final FluWatch report on Aug. 28. Normally, around 52,000 cases are detected.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8181383/flu-season-canada-covid-fall-2021/

What do you expect when everyone is wearing a mask and socially distancing? – Garth
——————
As a public service, I will continue to wear a mask in crowded places when this is over.
Gotta look after each other.

#169 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.11.22 at 11:09 am

@#156 Sunshowers
“Any town where you actually need to USE those services yourself and aren’t just blindly believing right wing propagandized media.”

+++

Riiiiight.
Instead of ignore a simple question. spew off into vague generalities.

Im still waiting.
Please just name one town in Canada where the Emergency Room only takes an hour to get served, no one complains about wait times for elective surgery and there’s a doctor ready and waiting to replace your doctor when they retire or move to the US.

#170 52,000 -> 69 on 01.11.22 at 11:10 am

#155 52,000 -> 69 on 01.11.22 at 8:47 am
PHAC recorded 69 influenza detections in the 2020-21 flu season, in its final FluWatch report on Aug. 28. Normally, around 52,000 cases are detected.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8181383/flu-season-canada-covid-fall-2021/

What do you expect when everyone is wearing a mask and socially distancing? – Garth

100% Garth.

But here is the funny thing, the masks most of us use suck and we don’t use them in a manner that should work. The cloth masks suck bigly. Plenty of science out there states cloth masks are worse then no mask at all.

What are they filtering exactly? Well..

Influenza viruses have a size between 80 and 100 nm.
SARS-CoV-2 have a size of between 60 and 160 nm.

So comparable in size!

I don’t know what to think anymore I tell ya!

#171 KGS on 01.11.22 at 11:15 am

How many boosters will Canadians take before other parts of the world get any vaccinations? When half of the world is not taking any vaccinations, other regions are using apparently other “inferior” vaccines not recognized by WHO why are people so blind that this is not working as intended. I don’t want 5+ boosters. There is no data that shows this is safe or will be safe for my body in the future.

#172 KGS on 01.11.22 at 11:22 am

I have watched our gov’t give millions of emergency $ to fake companies during the pandemic in the name of COVID. I personally knew the people who orchestrated and applied for these funds. Disgusting. Only to see on TV the Ontario govt defend the decision to award them millions apparently after doing their due diligence. Today, this company is going bankrupt, owners getting away with millions of tax payers money. The same gov’t who is insisting that boosters after boosters is our way out of this. No thank you.

#173 Outrage on 01.11.22 at 11:24 am

A Canadian economist called out the Liberal government for high immigration. Its a total travesty to all Canadians that a leader would suppress wages for workers who are struggling with high inflation and living costs in Canada.
He exposed Canada had 410,000 new immigrants while USA had 500,000 and they have 10 times more population than us.
Not only does it come with lower wages but strains health care, higher rents and real estate prices .Our infrastructure, social services and climate change will be hugely affected. This horrible policy will cause more racism and division in our country.

#174 earthboundmisfit on 01.11.22 at 11:28 am

There sure are a lot of Bozos on this bus, Mr. Turner. Perhaps it IS time to shut down anything related to covid and/or vaccines.

#175 west coast on 01.11.22 at 11:28 am

wow, so many people writing about covid on here and hailing vaccines just like our whiny pm. ‘vaccines are the only way out of this’ open your eyes people, we are all vaccinated and yet, here we are with an explosive amount of covid cases accross country. no, vaccines are not our ‘only way out of this’. i have been saying for a year, early treatment and better hospital management is our only way out of this. covid isn’t going anywhere, once you all come to grips with that, then we can all move on.

#176 Yukon Elvis on 01.11.22 at 11:30 am

#118 Sail Away on 01.10.22 at 9:54 pm

Hardly running away for our friends. They wrapped up their affairs in Alaska and are now traveling anywhere and everywhere in North America with no commitments and plenty of wealth.

When they get tired of the itinerant life and/or find the right place, they’ll stop and buy or build. They have a gigantic, endlessly interesting, multi-climate land to explore, and the perfect home on wheels with which to do it.

I feel the pull. And speaking from experience, that’s the way it always starts…
+++++++++++++++++
I felt the same pull. No motorhome, just airplanes and hotels and a backpack 2009-19. Been around the world a number of times. Happened to get caught by covid while in canada but i have a condo in Kelowna so I’ve been comfortable for the duration. Will hit the road again when travel gets easier. Health can fade slowly or change instantly. Live the dream while you still can.

#177 Damifino on 01.11.22 at 11:37 am

#161 Common Sense

True freedom is letting people live their lives, and a free society accepts ideological differences. It’s hard, but all things worthwhile usually are.
———————————–

Would you still sing the same tune if a homeless encampment replete with used needles and hills of garbage took up residence in your neighborhood?

#178 AM in MN on 01.11.22 at 11:41 am

#161 Common Sense on 01.11.22 at 9:43 am

American right wing conservatism is only “free” if you share the same ideals. Otherwise you are persecuted. Total hypocrisy and not real freedom at all.

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Nonsense. Any examples you can put forward of people being “persecuted” by conservatives? The left is engaged in no end of political persecutions through a corrupt “Justice” system, not conservatives.

What about the freedom to not support homosexual “marriage” or transgender “rights”? These can and do lead to very real legal punishments for anyone not in compliance.

Many in the Libertarian world do not have a good understanding of the difference between freedom and chaos.

Freedom comes from the free will granted to man by God, but comes with rules attached to prevent chaos.

That is being largely supplanted by edicts coming from Government, under the belief that your freedom is something to be granted by government, at what ever level they choose and under constant threat of the withdrawl of these “freedoms”.

Where can you point to that fiscal conservatism, as you define it, exists in the real world.

The chaos of society means that about 1 in 8 children in Canada are financially supported by the government, not their families. Look at all the seniors with no families that need to be looked after. What would you do, let them starve? There is no fiscal conservatism in a society in chaos.

#179 Dharma Bum on 01.11.22 at 11:48 am

The parents that are worried about getting their kids vaccinated are the same idiots that feed their kids:

McDonalds
Soft drinks
Milk
Orange juice
Fruit Loops
Lucky Charms
Frosted Flakes
Spaghetti-O’s
Macaroni and Cheese
White bread
Cold cuts
Cheese Whiz
Pizza
French Fries
KFC
etc.

They are killing them slowly. Every single day.

But they are afraid of the vaccine.

Wake up.

#180 Faron on 01.11.22 at 11:50 am

#158 KLNR on 01.11.22 at 9:26 am
@#141 the Jaguar on 01.11.22 at 1:27 am
Turner Nation, this one is for you. Front page of the NP:
Here is the headline for the article:

Jordan Peterson: “Open the damn country back up, before Canadians wreck something we can’t fix
The country is growing more authoritarian in response to fear.”

( p.s. – to ‘you know who’, this is not for you so try not to be triggered for once…. mind your own beeswax )

JP fits in nicely with TN’s narrative.
2 peas in a pod.

Ah, good, we need more psychologists piping up here in the midst of a viral epidemic because that makes sense. It’s as helpful as sending in the knitting pros when a fire breaks out.

JP has found it profitable to pretend his expertise in psychology (insofar as it exists) allows him to comment on anything from his platform stage including public health orders (that remain relatively limited) during a COVID wave. The darling of the new right has been drawn to the allure of making money — yep sheer greed — by echoing its tropes at the sacrifice of his academic and even ethical integrity. His “illnesses” are a direct result of that inner conflict.

Why are Jaguars so keen to ride in clown cars?

#181 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.11.22 at 11:53 am

168 Yukon Elvis on 01.11.22 at 11:30 am
#118 Sail Away on 01.10.22 at 9:54 pm

Hardly running away for our friends. They wrapped up their affairs in Alaska and are now traveling anywhere and everywhere in North America with no commitments and plenty of wealth.

When they get tired of the itinerant life and/or find the right place, they’ll stop and buy or build. They have a gigantic, endlessly interesting, multi-climate land to explore, and the perfect home on wheels with which to do it.

I feel the pull. And speaking from experience, that’s the way it always starts…
+++++++++++++++++
I felt the same pull. No motorhome, just airplanes and hotels and a backpack 2009-19. Been around the world a number of times. Happened to get caught by covid while in canada but i have a condo in Kelowna so I’ve been comfortable for the duration. Will hit the road again when travel gets easier. Health can fade slowly or change instantly. Live the dream while you still can.
———————
Guys.
You don’t get it.
Sure, I’d like to just get up and leave everything behind.
Just be selfish. Leave people who depend on me behind.
My point is:
What kind of society would we have if everybody would just follow their “dreams”.
With life there come responsibilities and duty to your family and society.

#182 Faron on 01.11.22 at 11:54 am

#178 AM in MN on 01.11.22 at 11:41 am

Any examples you can put forward of people being “persecuted” by conservatives?

Conversion therapy is the domain of the religious right. That took 0.05 milliseconds to come up with. Shall I make you a list, dawn of Duluth?

#183 Summertime on 01.11.22 at 12:03 pm

#173 Outrage on 01.11.22 at 11:24 am

This is how a former British Empire resources and debts slaves labour colony is run – based on cheap labour, competition for basic necessities and maximization of capital /profits outflow.

This is what the sock’s boy mandate is and he is doing pretty good job in that.

Think about it – the world’s most expensive housing (in reality workers dormitories) in a place with unlimited land and resources and minimum population. These guys are geniuses.

#184 Yukon Elvis on 01.11.22 at 12:18 pm

#181 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.11.22 at 11:53 am
168 Yukon Elvis on 01.11.22 at 11:30 am
#118 Sail Away on 01.10.22 at 9:54 pm

Hardly running away for our friends. They wrapped up their affairs in Alaska and are now traveling anywhere and everywhere in North America with no commitments and plenty of wealth.

When they get tired of the itinerant life and/or find the right place, they’ll stop and buy or build. They have a gigantic, endlessly interesting, multi-climate land to explore, and the perfect home on wheels with which to do it.

I feel the pull. And speaking from experience, that’s the way it always starts…
+++++++++++++++++
I felt the same pull. No motorhome, just airplanes and hotels and a backpack 2009-19. Been around the world a number of times. Happened to get caught by covid while in canada but i have a condo in Kelowna so I’ve been comfortable for the duration. Will hit the road again when travel gets easier. Health can fade slowly or change instantly. Live the dream while you still can.
———————
Guys.
You don’t get it.
Sure, I’d like to just get up and leave everything behind.
Just be selfish. Leave people who depend on me behind.
My point is:
What kind of society would we have if everybody would just follow their “dreams”.
With life there come responsibilities and duty to your family and society.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Some of us have done our duty, fulfilled our responsibilities, no longer have any dependents, and have the wherewithal to live the dream. Maybe you are not one of us.

#185 west coast on 01.11.22 at 12:18 pm

#179 dharma bum

i think you have it backwards. parents that feed their kids that garbage should be worried about covid. parents that feed their kids nutritious food should be worried about the vaccine.

#186 All lies and manipulated u decide on 01.11.22 at 12:26 pm

#92 Dogman01 on 01.10.22 at 8:15 pm
#79 Nonplused on 01.10.22 at 7:45 pm

“The good news is that it makes energy less “volatile”. The price you pay will stay high no matter what happens to the price of a barrel of oil.”
————————————————–
Interesting how no one talks about carbon Tax when it is -30 in this country…as it will merit them a punch in the face.
My Utility bills have so many fees , riders and add-ons that using more electricity, more water or more natural gas makes only a small any impact on the total bill.
====================================
LOL
EXACTLY. Its a con for more tax. We would be up poop creek without NatGas Diesel ect. So many are clueless that EVs lose their luster in the cold and we are a long way from a supportive grid. Anything that could push snow in Mid Van Isl was out in full force for 2 weeks burning diesel incl my 2 backhoes.
One guy high centered his Tesla on the snow trying to get to a charger and I dug him out with my skid steer.

#187 KLNR on 01.11.22 at 12:36 pm

@#180 Faron on 01.11.22 at 11:50 am
#158 KLNR on 01.11.22 at 9:26 am
@#141 the Jaguar on 01.11.22 at 1:27 am
Turner Nation, this one is for you. Front page of the NP:
Here is the headline for the article:

Jordan Peterson: “Open the damn country back up, before Canadians wreck something we can’t fix
The country is growing more authoritarian in response to fear.”

( p.s. – to ‘you know who’, this is not for you so try not to be triggered for once…. mind your own beeswax )

JP fits in nicely with TN’s narrative.
2 peas in a pod.

Ah, good, we need more psychologists piping up here in the midst of a viral epidemic because that makes sense. It’s as helpful as sending in the knitting pros when a fire breaks out.

JP has found it profitable to pretend his expertise in psychology (insofar as it exists) allows him to comment on anything from his platform stage including public health orders (that remain relatively limited) during a COVID wave. The darling of the new right has been drawn to the allure of making money — yep sheer greed — by echoing its tropes at the sacrifice of his academic and even ethical integrity. His “illnesses” are a direct result of that inner conflict.

Why are Jaguars so keen to ride in clown cars?

credit where credit is due.
like joe rogan and that infowars guy, JP knows exactly who his audience is and what to tell ’em to make big $$$.

#188 Sail Away on 01.11.22 at 12:39 pm

#181 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.11.22 at 11:53 am

Re: Retire, RV, Rest&Relaxation

Guys.
You don’t get it.
Sure, I’d like to just get up and leave everything behind.
Just be selfish. Leave people who depend on me behind.
My point is:
What kind of society would we have if everybody would just follow their “dreams”.
With life there come responsibilities and duty to your family and society.

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Oh my. Such a Calvinistic outlook. Puritanical, even.

You should try following your dreams, Ponz, at least once in life. There is a danger, though: those long frozen and possibly atrophied muscles some people use for smiling might get called into action. Might be painful in the beginning.

#189 Shawn on 01.11.22 at 12:40 pm

A False Premise leads to a False conclusion

This is called a non sequitur.

Example:

#130 Tomás de Torquemada on 01.10.22 at 11:18 pm

So official ‘inflation’ is over 7 %. Housing that accounts for over half of average family expenses is 25 %, which implies real inflation of 12-15 %.

And interest rates will rise from 0.25 % to potentially 1 %?

While CPP/OAP and other benefits rise by 2 %?

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Garth said house inflation is 25%. That is house PRICE inflation. The average family certainly does not buy a house in any given year or pay for it all at once. More typically a family has a paid for house or at least has a locked in mortgage payment that is not going up anything close to 25%. Others rent and SOME face huge inflation. The overall cost of housing on average is not going up anywhere close to 25% and therefore our friend here leads with a false premise.

Then he implies that CPP and Old age pensions will not rise as fast as official inflation. In fact they are both fully indexed though on a lagged basis. Look up OAS payments they have been increasing every three months. CPP only went up around 2.7% for 2022 because it is lagged to take account of average inflation numbers reported in a 12 month period ended October 2021.

The high OFFICIAL inflation of November and December and presumably January and through to next November will automatically be fully reflected in a CPP increase next year.

Actual facts matter see here:

https://www.canada.ca/en/services/benefits/publicpensions/cpp/old-age-security/cpp-price.html

Anything Tomas went on to conclude is not valid because the facts he premised his conclusion on were false.

This is apparently the way a lot of people make their case these days. False Premise followed by scary but invalid conclusion. Illogical!, Captain, as Spock would say.

#190 All lies and manipulated u decide on 01.11.22 at 12:43 pm

#92 Dogman01 on 01.10.22 at 8:15 pm
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Dog we are in the phase of “a death by a 1000 cuts”
Fees, taxes, levies, import duties and a million others.

#191 KLNR on 01.11.22 at 12:43 pm

@#175 west coast on 01.11.22 at 11:28 am
wow, so many people writing about covid on here and hailing vaccines just like our whiny pm. ‘vaccines are the only way out of this’ open your eyes people, we are all vaccinated and yet, here we are with an explosive amount of covid cases accross country. no, vaccines are not our ‘only way out of this’. i have been saying for a year, early treatment and better hospital management is our only way out of this. covid isn’t going anywhere, once you all come to grips with that, then we can all move on.

lol, ok doc.

#192 Mikethengineet on 01.11.22 at 1:00 pm

Garth eat al:

Seems lots of people are at home now. I guess everyone all went to Walmart at the same time. Big gaping holes in the food section, so bad, I had to go to expensive Loblaws to find stuff that I wanted. I heard that there were so many testing positive that companies are short workers, even though they don’t show any symptoms like cough or fever. Every store I went to, didn’t have the advertised specials. I heard truckers not vaxxd now can’t cross the border anymore. I hear it is a big bunch. I wonder if that is affecting supply chain now. Wonder if the big three are affected? Anybody know?

I lost my job in April because I didn’t take the jab. I hear j&j is now available. I don’t know if it is better, but I held back until other stuff was available.

Good luck to you Garth and hope all your bloggers stay healthy.

#193 Faron on 01.11.22 at 1:02 pm

#181 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.11.22 at 11:53 am

Frankly, if more people spent a bit more time following their passions I can’t see how the world would be worse. Our host, Garth, seems to have lived such a life. Might turn out that a lot of people are passionate about the wellbeing and opportunity of others. Don’t ignore the costs of being/feeling like one is duty-bound especially if there’s a “should” in the line of thinking.

#194 65+ on 01.11.22 at 1:17 pm

#179 Dharma Bum on 01.11.22 at 11:48 am
The parents that are worried about getting their kids vaccinated are the same idiots that feed their kids:

McDonalds
Soft drinks
Milk
Orange juice
Fruit Loops
Lucky Charms
Frosted Flakes
Spaghetti-O’s
Macaroni and Cheese
White bread
Cold cuts
Cheese Whiz
Pizza
French Fries
KFC
etc.

They are killing them slowly. Every single day.

But they are afraid of the vaccine.

Wake up.

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You make me hungry! What a great menu! …except for Cheese Whiz – not eating any whiz, thank you!

And are you saying no gabagool? Are you crazy?

We’re all dying slowly, every day.

The fear of death is what this pandemic is exploiting.

As if there was some magic bullet for those in the 70s or 80s to make them go to what…200?

I noted before that the 65+ age group doubled in age in the past decade – incredible! Up 2% as total population as well. When 65+ age group goes up that much, anything (like flu or diabetes or heart issues) will start going up also. Is it out of the question to say that flu deaths would double from 2010 to 2020 as a result of this 65+ age group doubling? I don’t think so.

#195 Sail Away on 01.11.22 at 1:29 pm

Wow, there must be 300 birds out front. I can see: robins, starlings, wrens, juncos, hummingbirds, sparrows, chickadees, nuthatches, bushtits and two flickers. Many eating worms as the snow recedes and also mobbing the seed logs. It’s a veritable melting pot of bird action.

Our wildlife-friendly tactic is to keep all the giant firs intact, which drop lots of needles and cones and could easily crush the house in a windstorm, and provide lots of rhodos, roses, forsythia, azalea, oak, magnolia, mtn ash, holly, etc. as cover and food. All fertilizer is naturally produced by the dog pack. Works like a charm. Should be around 4,000 daffodils and crocuses poking up next month.

Pleasant. Burgeoning. ‘Working’ from home today.

#196 Shawn on 01.11.22 at 1:35 pm

Don’t drink the Milk?

#179 Dharma Bum on 01.11.22 at 11:48 am

The parents that are worried about getting their kids vaccinated are the same idiots that feed their kids:

McDonalds
Soft drinks
Milk
Orange juice

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You lost me at Milk and probably lost all credibility and self-identified as a “nutter” in the minds of most people. Other than that it would have been a GREAT point. Ya could have made a great point but then went a bridge too far.

#197 Reynolds753 on 01.11.22 at 1:41 pm

It is not you who appears to have changed, Mr. Turner. I found so many of the comments yesterday to be so dismal and illogical with respect to the reality of this pandemic. This must be so difficult for you and yet you soldier on.

#198 bdwy on 01.11.22 at 2:03 pm

ontario,
The province indicated that there are currently 3,220 people in hospital with COVID-19 — around 54 per cent of them were admitted because of the virus, while about 46 per cent were admitted for other reasons but tested positive for COVID-19.

why was this info witheld for 2 years?

People get sick for more than one reason and need treatment. Wow. Big news. – Garth

#199 Vacsism on 01.11.22 at 2:08 pm

“Think of society, instead of just yourself. That would be refreshing. – Garth”

What society? Vaxed folks were just happy with their access certain places which are now closed to them. How can be non-vaxers be an issue, since they could not travel abroad therefore not spread this Omicron, which by all official accounts has cold/flu like symptoms and no covid respiratory.

Last but not least, we all pay the covid bills, and that includes mRNAs as well as CERB, covid passes, overall lifestyle losses, etc.

And now the vaxers, society oriented individuals who just lost some privileges, want unlimited boosters for all so their QR will lose its value, since it made them so special? Don’t think so…

#200 PastThePeak on 01.11.22 at 2:15 pm

I have had the Covid Jab (please, let’s not call it a vaccine – it is insulting to real vaccines). I did so because of age (51 – so risk vs. reward is favourable) and concerns about infecting my elderly mother. My wife and older kids have had the jabs.

I will speak objectively about this with everyone. If you are in any one of the risk categories, or have concerns as an adult, then absolutely get the jab. I am not anti-vax, as I have all of my required ones and occasionally get the flu shot just to keep immunity up (as I have only had influenza a couple of times in my life).

Given that it has been proven (since July at least) that the Covid Jabs do *NOT* stop someone getting infected (especially after a few months of dose), or being infectious, then the whole mandate and vaccine passport argument is ridiculous. Omicron is taking the earlier data and ramming so far down our throats that even *some* lefties are starting to see it.

Studies are showing the 3rd shot (1st booster) – which is the same thing as the original doses – provides some increased antibody protection (decreasing odds of symptomatic Omicron by 50% at the beginning) that is down to 25% after 8 weeks. So unless getting a booster every 2 months is your plan (sorry – not complying there), there is little benefit over the original double-jab.

The younger a person is, the less likely they are to have any severe outcome from Covid, and the more likely they are to have a reaction go the Jab. Go look at the data here. It is undeniable. Pushing jabs for those under 18 has nothing to do with the safety of the children.

Perhaps there will be better jabs in the future (they are under development), and everyone should consider that. I certainly will.

What would actually help out the situation:
– Allow treating physicians to prescribe what medication they, as medical professionals, feel would help their patients.
– There is tons of good data in multiple studies out there on off patent meds that can be repurposed with benefits. These all have high safety profiles, and so the only question is efficacy. Fund the proper studies to really prove it.
– Focus investments specifically in hospitals to be able to handle more Covid patients. Canada is near the bottom of the OECD in hospital beds per capita. We are at half the level of the USA. If we have OECD average hospital capacity we would not be in lockdowns right now.

Finally, if someone wants to debate the “cost” of treating unvaxx’d (or soon, the “not vaccinated enough”), then lets really debate it. What you are really asking for is risk-based insurance. Sounds good to me. Higher rates for:
– Unvaxxed Covid
– Smokers
– Obese
– Heavy drug users
– Alcoholics
– Those caught speeding
– etc

Sounds good to me…

In 2022 everyone on the Internet is an infectious disease expert. – Garth

#201 Michael in-north-york on 01.11.22 at 2:25 pm

#135 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.11.22 at 12:00 am

134 Michael in-north-york on 01.10.22 at 11:30 pm
Immunization against measles, mumps and rubella is required by law for all children attending school in Ontario. So much for that argument. – Garth
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Technically, that doesn’t count as mandatory vaccination. You are allowed to home-school your children, although few people choose that path.
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You are a classified IDIOT.
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You are an unclassified IDIOT. Report back when you get classified, and publish your certificate number.

#202 Classical Liberal Millennial on 01.11.22 at 2:30 pm

Personally I am as fed up with the unvaccinated (of which I am friends with many) as I am with the “Covid Zero” cult that dominate the Twittersphere. Both are a loud minority we would better off ignoring.

#203 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.11.22 at 2:46 pm

@#201 Mike in North York
“You are an unclassified IDIOT. Report back when you get classified, and publish your certificate number.”

+++++

It might take a while.

#204 Certifiable on 01.11.22 at 2:48 pm

In 2022 everyone on the Internet is an infectious disease expert. – Garth

Some of us were experts in 2020!

Also, since 2020 anyone trying to make sense of things with logic and data tends to run into ridicule…with that whole “nothing allowed to be said against the narrative” thing that we’re living right now.

I mean…you could get cancelled so easily in your life, on social media, in media – by just asking a question.

#205 Dr V on 01.11.22 at 2:54 pm

Wont debate to vax or not, but want to pass on my
experience trying to book booster in BC.

Got email on Friday, went to book last evening at halftime of football game (about 7 pm).

site pops up with my name and correct postal code. Does not show my previous inoculation site. Shows two others, one of which not very practical (ferries). I reload a couple of times and finally my previous site pops up. Shows one available day in Jan., nothing in Feb./Mar! This was same day that wife had booked a few hours earlier so I grab it, but cannot pick a time. I give up.

I recall having problems when booking my first jab.

I try before going to bed (after 11). Website pops up. Previous inoculation site pops up with multiple days available including the following Monday. All booked and confirmed. Wife re-books as well.

So here’s something to consider. For those who cant get booked on their first couple of tries, what do they do? Put it off indefinitely, book on whatever date shows as
available weeks away, book another destination? This glitch will cause some percentage of the eligible population to significantly and unneccessarily delay or even forego inoculation.

So really, if this is the best government can do, why should it be expected that the public give this any kind of priority?

#206 espressobob on 01.11.22 at 3:01 pm

What happens if the possibility of a deadly new variant of concern comes along that makes Omicron seem like an afternoon with grandma, enjoying tea and crumpets?

Getting vaccinated may be too late for those in the anti vax circle. God forbid the medical authorities would tell the populace what to do.

What do they know?

Recent hospitalization numbers and ICU admissions are a conspiracy after all, no?

Good luck with that mindset.

#207 PastThePeak on 01.11.22 at 3:03 pm

In 2022 everyone on the Internet is an infectious disease expert. – Garth

Unfortunately, many of us have had to read *A LOT* (from science sources) in order to determine more of the facts on the ground than that current mainstream media and governments are willing to share…

Yes, Karen. Facebookologists. – Garth

#208 Sail Away on 01.11.22 at 3:04 pm

On Oct. 14, Garth wrote this:

‘It continues. Oil is over $80 a barrel and on its way to a hundred bucks, many believe. Gasoline prices have hit all-time highs in much of the country. There’s an acute shortage of natural gas as the global recovery sucks off supplies.’

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On Oct. 15, Ms. Sail Away took a position in XEG. Today XEG is 15% higher. Now, that’s some good free info! Thanks Garth.

#209 Michael in-north-york on 01.11.22 at 3:16 pm

#203 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.11.22 at 2:46 pm

@#201 Mike in North York
“You are an unclassified IDIOT. Report back when you get classified, and publish your certificate number.”

+++++

It might take a while.
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Yes, it will. But if he is persistent, he can deliver.

#210 SunShowers on 01.11.22 at 3:19 pm

#169 crowdedelevatorfartz
Instead of ignore a simple question. spew off into vague generalities.

What’s the point? You wouldn’t believe me if I told you. You’re not coming from a place of facts or logic, so no facts or logic on my end can convince you of anything.

Also, pretty sneaky trying to weasel “elective” in there. Of course people wait for elective surgeries, especially now because anti-vax people are clogging up ERs (all of the links you posted were dated March 2021 or later). I would hope you would start pushing for a vaccine mandate before these selfish jerks start affecting non-elective surgeries like coronary bypasses more than they already are.

My wife’s doctor retired last year. She called 311, gave her particulars, and the regional health authority emailed her a list of doctors accepting new patients in the area within a week.

Like I said, you’re talking like somebody who just hears a lot of (made up) bad things about the healthcare system, but hasn’t actually had to use the system so you have no opportunity to see that what you’ve been told is made up.

#211 PastThePeak on 01.11.22 at 3:22 pm

#207 PastThePeak on 01.11.22 at 3:03 pm
In 2022 everyone on the Internet is an infectious disease expert. – Garth

Unfortunately, many of us have had to read *A LOT* (from science sources) in order to determine more of the facts on the ground than that current mainstream media and governments are willing to share…

Yes, Karen. Facebookologists. – Garth
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So sad! Not on Facebook or any social media, but ad hominem all you want. You certainly never debate any of the points – simply attack the person…

#212 Anti-Social Media on 01.11.22 at 3:25 pm

Yes, Karen. Facebookologists. – Garth

I never click any Facebook, twitter or Instagram links. Just not interested.

I never believe anything unless source material is linked.

I demand published, ideally peer reviewed papers. Mask science – I tend to prefer pre-2020 papers, as those are not compromised by narrative yet.

I have to admit, I consider US sources as 2nd tier as I find the US compromised. When FDA goes to federal court to fight releasing vaccine approval documents to 55 years from now, clearly we have a serious issue.

#213 Brian on 01.11.22 at 3:42 pm

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#214 Not Fooled on 01.11.22 at 3:59 pm

#182 Faron on 01.11.22 at 11:54 am
#178 AM in MN on 01.11.22 at 11:41 am

Any examples you can put forward of people being “persecuted” by conservatives?

Conversion therapy is the domain of the religious right. That took 0.05 milliseconds to come up with. Shall I make you a list, dawn of Duluth?

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Conversion therapy? You mean when lefties tell gay, neurodivergent,
and gender non-conforming kids that they were born in the wrong body because they like the wrong toys and clothes?

Conversion therapy hasn’t been practiced on gay people like me for decades. This legislation is specifically targeted to prevent parents and clinicians from exploring causes for a child saying they think they’re the opposite sex. Which is purely unscientific, ideological gibberish. Only affirming a 12 year old’s TikTok mediated self diagnosis is allowed.

Are gender souls being put in the wrong meatbags? Cartesian dualism is a quaint notion, isn’t it? Trans children are the love child of Munchausen’s by proxy and pharmaceutical companies. Blackrock and Vanguard are fully on board.

The lawyers are already smelling blood in the water.

#215 NotDreaming on 01.13.22 at 9:16 am

Divide the country – Keep on Dreaming – Are there still people here believing we have the same interest. This country will Never be unified and still remember the Big we love you don’t go with free flying ticket to Montreal bullshit.