The gravel

Sigh.

On Friday, when we heard about a torrent of new jobs in Canada, this blog attempted some context. After all, the economy reopened a lot this summer. Patios bustling. Airplanes full. More traffic. Normality is creeping back – albeit slowly (GTA commuter train traffic is still 80% below pre-pandemic levels) – and this will continue.

For investors, or anyone just trying to grow their TFSA a little, the times have been extraordinary. Bay Street is up almost 30% in a year. Low-vol balanced portfolios have added double-digits in 2021. Money borrowed at 2% has returned 10%, plus tax-deductible interest. It’s just one of those times when it’s hard to miss. The reopening trade is probably only starting. Only a fraction of the world is vaccinated, so the rebound in global GDP will be taking place over the next few years. More commodity demand. Higher prices. Good for Canada.

That’s the context. And with 400,000 jobs added in the last three months there’s much to be confident about, despite the country’s balance sheet. The repopulation of downtowns as WFH fades into history during 2022 will bring commerce and employment. Remember that periods of expansion are long and contractions are short. The Covid crash was, we now know, not much more than a temporary blip. Market gains since the bottom in March of 2020 have been spectacular. Those who sold and hid in cash will long regret their fear.

Now, back to Friday. The point was simple. Vaccinations breed growth. That feeds the markets. It’s why you should maintain a good Canadian exposure (20%) in your portfolio. Our national fully-vaxed rate is 77%, considerably above the US (54%) or the world in general (29%). As Vaxports are rolled out in most provinces over the next three months, our numbers will increase. So will economic activity. So will financial assets.

The idea of the passports is simple. By removing social (and often employment) privileges from the unvaccinated, the doubters and hesitators are encouraged to become inoculated, corralling the virus and easing the health care load. It may be a crude tool, but short of mandatory jabs for the entire population, this is the best way of accelerating the path to a pre-Covid world.

It will happen. And ironically – with a week left in this federal election campaign – the vocal and increasingly militant anti-vax lobby may be ensuring their choices narrow and that their arms may soon be jabbed.

Fact: Mad Max Bernier is the Canadian champ of the vaccine deniers. He’s refused to take the serum. He’s been arrested for breaking public health rules. His supporters have trashed Trudeau, tossed gravel and profanities at him, and made the current PM look more courageous and stalwart for standing up to their adolescent tirades.

Fact: Bernier’s support in the polls has grown as the anti-vax campaign has strengthened, as more employers have mandated inoculation of employees and as the vaccine passports are adopted by provincial governments. The guy is now at something between 6% and 12%, depending on the pollster. That has eclipsed the Bloc and left the Greens in the dust.

Fact: MPs get elected by having a concentration of support in a single electoral district. This is why the Libs garnered a majority in 2019 even though the Cons received more votes. It’s all about distribution. Math. In no riding are there enough ani-vaxers to push a PPC candidate over the finish line. Max may win his own seat – it’s possible – but he will lead nothing. Ever.

Fact: Every Max vote is one less Erin ballot, since there’s little doubt the give-me-liberty crowd (of fearful, selfish people) are rightists. If the PPC sucks off 10% of available support, or even 5%, that’s enough to ensure Mr. Trudeau is prime minister for four years. Even if it’s minority, the NDP will gladly keep his party in power, augmenting its influence and accomplishing its agenda.

Fact: A Liberal win is the green light for an extended, enhanced program of mass vaccination. Trudeau has made it crystal where he stands. It would be only a matter of time before the Vaxport was national and the non-immunized would be seriously impacted in most workplaces and communities. With eight in 10 Canadians having taken the meds, sympathy for the non-believers and their inevitable rallies and protests would be scant. With no election for years, they would have no clout, no champion, no options.

Make no mistake. Mr. Market is not enthralled with Liberal spending, deficits or government creep. But he thrives on the steady re-emergence of a pre-Covid world. Ironically, Conservatives would also deliver, even with tolerance for the vaccine timid. But, alas, we may be beyond that.

Stay invested. The die is cast.

About the picture: “Hi Garth, meet Presley (named after Elvis) who has become a big celebrity in your old hood of Oakville,” writes Alvaro. “Presley rides a zero emissions SOCO British e-motorcycle around town and wears the coolest  biker’s glasses. I am sure he will become a social media sensation one day.”

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#1 Flop… on 09.12.21 at 10:47 am

U.K U-turn…

M47BC

“Sajid Javid kills off Covid passports: Health Secretary rules out scheme after huge Tory outcry – as PM prepares to axe PCR tests for double-jabbed travellers by October and ditch draconian lockdown powers.

* Sajid Javid confirmed Covid passports plan for clubs and events being dropped.

* Boris Johnson is due to set out the Government’s winter Covid plan this week.

* He is reluctant to impose further lockdowns and wants to focus on vaccines.

* PCR tests are also expected to be scrapped for double-jabbed from next month.

Sajid Javid today dramatically dismissed the idea of compulsory Covid passports being introduced in England next month after a huge Tory outcry. 

The Health Secretary declared that the government ‘will not be going ahead’ with the controversial move for nightclubs and major events, ahead of Boris Johnson unveiling the government’s ‘winter plan’ on Tuesday.

The U-turn comes after ministers were sent out to defend the proposals last week despite heavy fire from Conservative MPs who branded them ‘unsupportable, coercive and discriminatory.”

#2 Gabe Rielto on 09.12.21 at 11:07 am

I haven’t talked to a single investor who supports Trudeau, not one. Who’s this Mr Market you’re talking about? One the other hand, I speak to many investors in many investment communities ( including this one) who are very positive about Canada with Trudeau gone. Im one of those investors who see the “Market” as being artificially suppressed by the Liberal Party.

#3 Flop… on 09.12.21 at 11:18 am

Mrs Flop already has the Vaccine Passport set up on her phone.

I was going to go to the Rugby Sevens in a couple of weeks at B.C place, and said that is probably the first place I’m going to have to show I’m vaccinated to anyone.

“What are you going to do when you get there.” she proceeded to ask.

You know, have a session with the boys, I replied.

The spanner in the works she informed me is B.C Place is supposedly cash free now, and I don’t possess a credit card, so not having a credit card and not being vaccinated might stop me from going.

Heck, after reading TurnerNation’s posts for a year or so I don’t even carry I.D on me anymore.

Not sure what would happen if I had a medical episode or something.

My Mum used to tell me to put on a nice pair of underwear each time I left the house in case I ended up on the six o’clock news or in hospital.

She’s 13,000 kilometres away and can’t help me.

Nowadays I just write “Call Garth Turner” inside the waistband…

M47BC

#4 Prince Polo on 09.12.21 at 11:20 am

FACT: it’s hard to take anti-vaxxers seriously when the stats show that those that are fully vaccinated are much less of a burden on the health care system.

FACT: everything has risk; even posting logical comments on this blog! (My pathetic ego will likely take an unnecessary hit here…)

#5 Phylis on 09.12.21 at 11:23 am

Cute doggles!

#6 Damifino on 09.12.21 at 11:28 am

I had long thought a Liberal minority was the best a Conservative voter could hope for. Then for a while, a Tory minority seemed possible. Today, rather less so. Tomorrow, who knows, eh?

Max very nearly made the Conservative leadership. One wonders what kind of an electoral dog’s breakfast we’d be looking had that been the case.

I’m now thinking the NDP will eat a dozen or so Liberal seats and the Cons, perhaps a few more, leaving the current depressing leadership unchanged.

On the bright side, a Liberal majority was too horrific to contemplate and that party will probably start getting serious about replacing a leader who’s ways are no longer sunny.

#7 Lenny on 09.12.21 at 11:29 am

Exactly, although I like a LOT of what I see in the PPC platform, I’m gonna hold my nose and vote Conservative because I do not want that nauseating smarmy JT wrecking the country.

#8 canuck on 09.12.21 at 11:29 am

Nice, Garth does his part in trying to prop up votes for the pathetic, platform changing CPC. Is it so hard to understand that there are many Canadians who think Canadians should have a choice in taking the vaccine? In Garth’s world, you’re either vaccinated or you’re an anti-vaxer and that simply isn’t true. Many who have been vaxxed, myself included think people should have a choice. I frankly don’t care if people get vaxxed or not. It’s a personal choice.

Bernier is not anti-vax – He is pro choice. He has repeated this many times and because of this stance, he has the support of vaccinated as well and anti-vax supporters. Bernier isn’t interested in segregating society like some people…

Your Bernier rant convinces me that my vote for PPC is the right one. Bernier has a backbone. O’Toole doesn’t.

#9 Confusions on 09.12.21 at 11:30 am

U-turns are allowed in the UK. Not so much in Canada.

#10 neo on 09.12.21 at 11:32 am

So Garth, this time next year when you are on your 4th or 5th shot to continue to be “fully vaccinated” will someone with no shots need the latest one for the latest “variant” or all four to catch up? Asking for a friend.

#11 Habitt on 09.12.21 at 11:47 am

Yes the PPC spells trouble for the Conservatives. If poll tracker is correct Liberals are only 18 seats from majority territory. Hang on to your hat.

#12 Dirty Dan on 09.12.21 at 11:53 am

The Trump vaccine (fast tracked by Trump) was also muscled in by Trump when he threatened the head of the FDA with termination:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-business-mark-meadows-coronavirus-pandemic-0902fbb041b0459e55da86be75b1457a

“Hours before the Food and Drug Administration authorized the first COVD-19 vaccine late Friday, a high-ranking White House official told the agency’s chief he could face firing if the vaccine was not cleared by day’s end, two administration officials said.

The FDA granted emergency use for the vaccine produced by Pfizer Inc. and its German partner BioNTech. The decision kicks off a massive vaccination effort to help defeat the pandemic. President Donald Trump said late Friday that Pfizer had “passed the gold standard of safety” and hailed the vaccine as “one of the greatest scientific accomplishments in history.”

Bask in the glory of what Trump produced.

#13 Dave on 09.12.21 at 12:01 pm

Any true conservative will vote PPC to send a message that Erin O’Tool’s attempt to turn the Conservatives into a liberal party will not be tolerated!!!

Justin thanks you. – Garth

#14 Barb on 09.12.21 at 12:01 pm

Presley is adorable!
Certainly more fetching than the dog in the second photo.

#15 Dirty Dan on 09.12.21 at 12:05 pm

If the liberals and NDP can form a coalition government, why can’t the Conservatives and PPC.

All that matters is taking away seats from Trudeau without giving them to the NDP. If you vote NDP you may as well just vote for that disaster Trudeau.

#16 really an election now on 09.12.21 at 12:06 pm

I would not be surprised if you don’t let me post this but there are now 5 million mail in ballots that have been produced, available for this Canada 2021 Federal election by September-20-2021.

First, why did Trudeau call an election if there is so much risk out there. He should not of or even been allowed at the risk of everyone. You can suck and blow at the same time. It is either a great risk to our health or not by calling an election. Second, Mailing anything these days without a receipt like registered mail, courier etc. that can’t be confirmed by a signature or witness is not a way to inspire confidence in an Federal election in any country even Canada.

Third, anytime there is a big change like mail in voting or some other method of counting votes with ease technologically has more chances of being room for fraud and manipulation. It is inherit of the nature of humans, the overall system in general and technology.

We are not talking about a few thousand of ten of thousands of ballots here. We are talking about 5 million mail in ballots. This is a big portion of the entire population of almost the entire GTA. It is a health risk to call an election and have 5 million mail in ballots at this time and it looks and seems fishy for alot real possibility of fraud and not a true representation of how Canadians really voted. It breeds suspicion and mistrust in an already divided population and society.

Zero fraud. Grow up. – Garth

#17 Damifino on 09.12.21 at 12:08 pm

#8 canuck

Your Bernier rant convinces me that my vote for PPC is the right one. Bernier has a backbone. O’Toole doesn’t.
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Then you might as well mark an X beside the name of your Liberal candidate. If there was ever a time to vote someone out of office rather than in, this is it.

#18 Damifino on 09.12.21 at 12:18 pm

#12 Dirty Dan

Bask in the glory of what Trump produced.
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A democracy-killing insurrection attempt?

#19 Leftover on 09.12.21 at 12:19 pm

A vote for the PPC is one less for the Conservatives, and if enough of them turn out then it could turn into a ……Liberal majority.

Perish the thought, but that could turn out okay. A Liberal majority kneecaps the NDP, otherwise known as the shadow cabinet, that has relished the past couple of years and Canada’s foray into MMT.

The Liberals I know aren’t socialists. They just like to be in power.

#20 Vic on 09.12.21 at 12:21 pm

The die is cast. Max is sucking votes away from Erin at an increasing rate. Far too many support him to make it otherwise, including in this comments section. Trudeau is going to win more seats than expected in Quebec.

A Liberal majority is about 80% likely right now.

If not, a Lib/NDP coalition is certain.

Get your popcorn ready.

#21 Repurchase Disagreement on 09.12.21 at 12:22 pm

Canadians have been conditioned to actually believe they can change the temperature of the planet if the vote for a less affordable and prosperous society (especially for the poor, regardless of what ever redistribution scheme is promised to offset the impacts).

At the same time we can’t even ensure FN people have clean drinking water. And T2 and the Liberals showed their true colours on FN affairs with their Thank You For Your Donation moment. The applause is even more telling than the statement (and then T2 repeats it). To them it’s just a political game. Ask Jody.

https://youtu.be/I16qWQpS2fk

I will vote for Erin. He seems like a truly decent Canadian.

#22 Alberta Ed on 09.12.21 at 12:22 pm

Jody Wilson-Raybould just planted a war club right between Justin’s baby blues. Let’s hope that does some good.

#23 Habitt on 09.12.21 at 12:22 pm

To think the liberals could win and likely will due to the pro choice and anti vaxers voting PPC. Who knew Covid would have such an effect on the election. I see Bernier is up again today. Justin must be chuckling. What a gong show.

#24 Cici on 09.12.21 at 12:23 pm

Thank you for explaining this to anyone who hasn’t already figured it out!

Same thing with the Bloc. I joked some weeks back about how funny it would be if we all voted for them as a protest vote; unfortunately, that’s now happening in Québec thanks to the wording of certain debate questions. We are probably going to be stuck with JT’s Fiberals for a long while yet ;-(

#25 Polecat on 09.12.21 at 12:25 pm

Just want to share my covid experience. Got it April 2020, lasted about a month. First week my chest was so sore it hurt to breathe, let alone talk, and coughing was hell. Slept 12 hours a day and lost taste and smell as well as bouts of vertigo and numbness in my hands. Today I still have a dull chest pain and hands are numb but not as bad as when sick. I still get slight bouts of vertigo. Got carted out in ambulance last month due to an “episode”, I got massive vertigo, tunnel vision and slumped in my chair. My o2 sats were good, blood sugar good, blood pressure good and ecg good, I can’t explain it and have an ultrasound for my heart scheduled. Recommend the jab for anyone who wants it but thinking I have natural immunity. I do have 14 jabs in my immunization book since I require them to travel for work so not anti-vax. I’ll get the vax once travel for work starts again. I believe I am one of the covid “long haulers” and would like to be involved in a study with regard to this so I’ll do some digging on that. Just my 2 cents.

#26 Vic on 09.12.21 at 12:32 pm

Max is close to 11% in many parts of Ontario as well, which is stunning.

Expect the NDP to pick up 5-6 extra seats in Alberta as a result of this, as well as 1-2 for the Liberals there.

O’Toole is so out of touch with and in denial about the views of the grassroots of his own party, and voters are seeing that facade. In light of that fundamental mistrust out there about the Conservatives, even Jody’s book will make Justin look better by comparison.

#27 Do we have all the facts on 09.12.21 at 12:38 pm

In December 2019 there were 30,964,700 Canadians 15 years of age or older. Of this total 20,270,100 persons were included in the total labour force and 19,127,400 persons were employed full time (15,536,200), part time (3,591,200) and unemployed 1,142,800.

By August 2021 there were 31,356,700 Canadians 15 years of age or older, an increase of 392,000 persons.

Of this total 20,414,100 persons were included in the total labour force, an increase of only 144,000 persons over 20 months.

The number of employed Canadians in August 2021 declined to 18,774,100 persons or 353,300 fewer than in December 2019.

The number of unemployed Canadians increased to 1,440,000 persons or 297,200 more than December 2019.

While I agree that recent increases in job creation is a positive sign one must acknowledge that over the last 20 months the Canadian labour force should have increased by a minimum of 250,000 persons to 20,520,000 persons based on population growth 15 years or older.

Based on a more realistic projection of the Canadian labour force in August 2021 the real unemployment rate would exceed 8.5%, and 1,740,000 Canadians would be recorded as unemployed.

Tinkering with who is included in the actual labour force at a given point in time allows the Government of Canada to present their statistics in a more favourable light. What tinkering cannot do is hide the fact that without Covid 19 the number of employed Canadians in August 2021 would have approached 19,400,000 or 620,000 persons more than current employment levels.

We have a way to go before we break out the Pom Poms!

#28 Quintilian on 09.12.21 at 12:43 pm

“Make no mistake. Mr. Market is not enthralled with Liberal spending, deficits or government creep.”

That statement seems to contradict the fact as you, emphatically and repeatedly, stated in the same post, that the market is on fire.

As I see it the “trickle down effect” has worked the opposite way this time around, the government handouts, actually helped the better off.

The speculators have been handed a bonanza, of course it’s a net zero gain for society.

No contradiction. The economy is reopening. Could there be more fiscal responsibility? Of course. The long game is darker. – Garth

#29 yvr_lurker on 09.12.21 at 12:45 pm

Vancouver Quadra, where I live, has long been a safe seat for the Liberals. Will not vote for them this round, however none of the others are remotely inspiring. Can’t see myself getting off the couch for this one.

#30 Woke up this morning... on 09.12.21 at 12:46 pm

Dolce, that was a decent Italian Grand Prix. 28k people you say? Not because of limits on attendance, but rather poor ticket sales. They had permission for 50K – I guess those ticket sales never recovered. Some good PR could have offered the tickets to front line workers – could they not? Would have been a good optic to do so.

How disappointing that podium was with no SEA OF HUMANITY underneath? The whole point of the Monza podium was this – to bring drivers closer to the crowd. Looks like they weren’t even allowed to walk the circuit. That ugly ugly corporate logo trophy for a Grand Prix win was another disappointment – you win the Italian Grand Prix at the temple of speed and you get a 3-D logo? BOO! Must everything be branded now-a-days?

Anyhow…

#1 Flop

Vaccine Passes are a waver of liability first and foremost, perhaps tied with trying to be a carrot/stick to get people to vaccinate. Those who don’t want won’t be motivated by gym/theatres/concerts to be honest and those business will lose out – although it could be argued that losing few is better than losing all customers so that argument cancels out mostly.

Interesting that UK is dumping the passport program nonetheless.

#31 QuebAnglo on 09.12.21 at 12:48 pm

The Green Party of Canada is the only party that has stated it would challenge the very racist Loi 21 in Quebec, where religious minorities are banned from wearing religious symbols in a public service job, as well as challenging the very Anglophobic Bill 96, which further reduces the ‘privileges’ of Quebec Anglophones.

Quebec Premier François Legault is our most dangerous politician
https://ipolitics.ca/2021/09/09/quebec-premier-francois-legault-is-our-most-dangerous-politician

“Rather than defend these minorities, federal politicians, led by Justin Trudeau, have quivered and surrendered to Legault’s attacks on fundamental Canadian values. Trudeau has promised to eviscerate the Official Languages Act by turning it into an act to promote French language, rather than to protect linguistic minorities equally, wherever they live. And he’s only weakly challenged Bill C-21, the despicable law against religious minorities.”

“With Legault’s remarkable outburst on Thursday — which included telling Quebecers whom to vote for on Sept. 20, so as to elect a Conservative minority government — he’s pursuing his policy of undermining the federal government and making it accede to his every demand. ”

“He then added that Erin O’Toole and the Conservatives were a lesser evil, because O’Toole would give Legault more of what he wants. He likes O’Toole’s “approach,” and says it would be easier to negotiate with him. In other words, he considers O’Toole a potential useful idiot….he Conservative leader has already promised to hand over administration of federal income tax to Quebec, a crazy idea that will further erode federal sovereignty in a key area.”

If I were Erin O’Toole, I’d be worried. If Legault thinks the Conservatives are an easy mark, English Canadians might figure they’re better off sticking with the Liberals. Trudeau might be squishy when it comes to Legault, but at least he doesn’t have the covert blessing of a man who would destroy Canada.

#32 Censored UK VAX statistics on 09.12.21 at 12:51 pm

I wrote earlier in the week about the latest vaccine data from Public Health England (PHE) and how it shows that in the last month reported infection rates have been higher in the double vaccinated than in the unvaccinated for those aged 40-79 – up to 38% higher in some age bands.

Usually, data like this that casts the vaccines in a bad light is not reported by major media outlets – they tend to stick only to reporting on the press releases from actual studies rather than presenting implications from real-world data, which means they typically include whatever spin and ‘adjustments’ the researchers have added.

Unusually, this time Robert Peston decided to report on the new PHE data for ITV News. Inspired it seems by the fact that he has just had Covid despite being double-vaccinated, he wondered how many others had experienced similar, and was surprised to find in the data that it was actually very common.

#33 Lt. Commander Data on 09.12.21 at 12:52 pm

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations

15% of ICU double vaccinated and increasing.
85% of ICU NOT vaccinated

Breakthrough infections now at 25-30% of reported daily numbers.

Considering the travel restrictions on non-vaccinated, scientifically and statistically it will be the vaccinated who spread the variants around the world, without doubt.

The main point is not infections but the degree of disease and instance of death. If we can do something to save the health care system, then why would we not? This is social responsibility. – Garth

#34 Ted Investor on 09.12.21 at 12:56 pm

#2 Gabe Rielto: Maybe you need to expand your narrow circle of associates. I’m a small investor with a net worth north of $10m, and have always voted, and will continue to vote, Liberal. But then there’s a big difference between greedy righties in thrall to ideological understandings of the economy, and the rest of humanity. Simple human decency allows us all to thrive, even those of us who pursue and build wealth, but only if we have the basic know-how to manage our money the right way instead of whining that the government is not doing us enough favours with its fiscal policy. I swear, some days I think Conservatives and Dippers are identical in their embrace of two-dimensional theories of the world. Have a nice day.

#35 Vic on 09.12.21 at 1:02 pm

People considering voting for the CPC will have to convince themselves that they are voting in Bill Davis, except that his cabinet is made up of Doug Ford, Jason Kenney, Mike Harris and Scott Moe etc…, and he will magically be able to control them. Or, that he will let them take over, for those on the increasing group on the far right.

The hopeless contradiction is too obvious to ignore. It just can’t work, either way.

More Conservative votes will now be split, and now a higher % of Con voters are likely to just skip the ballot.

Nothing will surprise. Maybe the NDP will even get more seats than the CPC.

#36 canuck on 09.12.21 at 1:03 pm

#17 Damifino on 09.12.21 at 12:08 pm

#8 canuck

Your Bernier rant convinces me that my vote for PPC is the right one. Bernier has a backbone. O’Toole doesn’t.
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Then you might as well mark an X beside the name of your Liberal candidate. If there was ever a time to vote someone out of office rather than in, this is it.
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That line of thinking has got us in the position we’re in right now. How did that work out?
Anyone notice the PPC has rolled out an indigenous platform policy. Any other party do that? Hello?

#37 Richard L on 09.12.21 at 1:08 pm

Garth I do not understand your aversion to Bernier. If not for the dairy cartel he would have been elected CPC leader over that nonentity Scheer.

The most important issues facing this country is runaway government spending and insane levels of private debt. You have said this yourself.

The CPC has become a ‘Liberal light’ party and has no intention of reducing spending. The other left wing parties intend to spend like drunken sailors.

Although the PPC has attracted more than its share of rednecks, it is the only party that has any intention to reduce spending and the role of government in society and the economy.

Capitalisim is a good system. Why not say so??

That’s my 2 cents worth.

Changing the Cons makes more sense than throwing your vote away and enabling Liberalism. – Garth

#38 Woke up this morning... on 09.12.21 at 1:11 pm

#27 Do we have all the facts

I recall reading or seeing that the employment numbers can be +/- 50K officially and indeed the numbers are “spinnable” via certain factors as you note.

ADP payroll number swings are even greater.

Looking at some recent ADP reports
May 101,600 jobs gain
(revised to 318,700 jobs lost in June)

June 294,200 jobs lost
(revised to 106,200 jobs lost in July)

July 221,300 jobs gained
(revisions will come with August numbers in Sept)

This would leave us at about -100K according to ADP payroll, pending revision. If the July revision reverses the gains to losses, worse, if gains increase then the -100K can be reversed potentially.

#39 Shawn Allen on 09.12.21 at 1:12 pm

A Conspiracy in Every Pot?

Do We Have All the Facts at 27 alleges:

“Tinkering with who is included in the actual labour force at a given point in time allows the Government of Canada to present their statistics in a more favourable light.”

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No one is tinkering. There is a set of criteria to decide if a person is in the labour force (working or actively looking for a job).

The fact that the labour force can include anyone from age 15 to 115 should tell you they don’t change the criteria very often. Why would anyone even expect 17 year olds or 90 year olds to be in the labour force?

It’s not easy to count who is in the labour force. For example, as a retired person who has a modest online business I would have a hard time categorizing whether I am in or out. I am both self employed and on a retired pension.

On top of that the labour force numbers are not counts but based on phone surveys. There is statistical errors. Volatility in the numbers does not suggest a conspiracy. Sheesh.

Think of other explanations like more people basically aging out of their workforce years with the aging population.

No one has suggested that the economy has fully recovered but there is no conspiracy here.

#40 Mister Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on 09.12.21 at 1:14 pm

Congraultions Mister Prime Minister!

Onward to 338!

#41 unbalanced on 09.12.21 at 1:17 pm

To the Polecat. Thanks for sharing and stay safe

#42 Fakeologist on 09.12.21 at 1:19 pm

A badly veiled attempt to discredit “vote splitting”.

Vote PPC if you don’t want a 2 tied society – even that’s no guarantee of success.

#43 Flop... on 09.12.21 at 1:21 pm

Sun is coming out in Vancouver.

I think I will go up to the bustling 41st Avenue with my sign.

Honk if you’re an Unsturdy Conservative…

M47BC

#44 willworkforpickles on 09.12.21 at 1:23 pm

Economic growth is what Canada needs.
With Trudeau returning to power after the 20th, unprecedented levels of added new debt is what Canada is destined for.
Rising debt levels are detrimental to economic growth. Enough research on the subject bears this out.

Where heretofore unimagined new debt levels combined with subsequential stunted economic growth will lead to is a topic JT voters choose not to discuss if in fact they are even aware of where this is all going. Save for to hear smooth talk and all’s well on the good ship.

#45 Peepee Sea on 09.12.21 at 1:28 pm

The magic number (4%) of votes will grant PPC a seat at the debate table next election and then we might see some actual options in terms of policy rather than 4 flavours of more (and more) tax and spend. That’s far more valuable than so-called strategic voting which will just gives Canadians more of the same.

#46 Chimingin on 09.12.21 at 1:28 pm

The PPC is the biggest disaster to befall the Canadian political spectrum I can remember. The whackos that support that party have done nothing to contribute to the conservative cause and will ensure the Liberals a victory. The right in general is perceived as unreliable and unhinged, because of the PPC it is worse now. The Conservatives have to move more to the centre to have a hope of ever breaking through. How can those of you who support Bernier and his rants not see that??

#47 Planetgoofy on 09.12.21 at 1:29 pm

Turner Nation, Your going to love this.
WHY…you have to ask?? WHY!!?
https://youtu.be/AzWLlfwfD4Y

https://freenorth.news/2020/11/12/evidence-the-great-reset-is-real-heres-why-you-wont-enjoy-it/

Sorry I can’t tow the party line that everyone gets Vaxed and we all go back to normal. The powers that be won’t let it thats why they coined the phrase “the NEW normal”
Just because the economy picks up….that’s right people need to eat and conduct business or there would be a depression. You can still live in oppression and have and economy.
Stop spending and the velocity of money goes in the tank and that’s what you get…No?

All this crap that’s going down is because the loss of trust in governments.
Fauci alone changed his tune 30 times and that’s why people DISLIKE him to say the least.

And the miss conduct of people is completely unacceptable and throwing rocks is just plane assault.

#48 Laddy on 09.12.21 at 1:34 pm

Vic – 33, 26, 20

The Conservatives will win this election.

Your little friend, justin, has cried wolf too many times. It’s over!

#49 Lt. Commander Data on 09.12.21 at 1:39 pm

The main point is not infections but the degree of disease and instance of death. If we can do something to save the health care system, then why would we not? This is social responsibility. – Garth

My emotion lacking analysis of this human challenge would say that if the goal is to save the health care systems, focus should be to deny the variants a method of mobility first and foremost.

Delta was granted free-passages because exceptions were allowed after all. It spread by travelers on planes – as all SARS-CoV2 variants have. Thus the risk has already clearly been proven with this vaccine efficacy reducing variant, yet it is being denied going forward.

With new variants already identified by studies as capable of defeating current vaccine efficacy fully, it fascinates my positronic brain that this danger is not being prioritized and addressed.

#50 Planetgoofy on 09.12.21 at 1:50 pm

So yes I’m NOT in the everything’s going to be OK camp. Things are changing FAST and many are ignorant of what is going on….. We shale see who or if you will be working for in the future. Food security will become an issue…Its getting there now.

#51 Chris L. on 09.12.21 at 1:51 pm

The main point is not infections but the degree of disease and instance of death. If we can do something to save the health care system, then why would we not? This is social responsibility. – Garth

Goal posts moved again…I thought this was all about the variants being spread by the unvaxed? I told you it wasn’t going to stop the spread before – I called it “leaky” and that the pandemic wasn’t over – not by a long shot – perhaps not ever. This vax is as bad as antimicorbial soap – maybe even worse.

The vax pass is designed to limit the spread of the virus – people. It will poneyback on top of a carbon credit pass to limit carbon dioxide, which too is a limit on the real virus – of useless eaters. The have been pulling this stuff off in the long game for decades.

Now you may argue it’s a decent therapy (not a vaccine), but that will wane in efficacy with time, and they you will have no therapy, but all restriction.

Worry less about strained medical systems than a restrained population. You never get your rights back. Everything is tracked, traced, and paid for – your body was the last thing they could track and trace – and they went for it – and took it, and you cheered them on.

It’s probably too late now. Looking at remaining free nations or place to live out relatively un-prodded is the next logical step. Canada has gone so far left, it’s madness. Annnnd people cheer for more. Scary man. Even Trudeau has support since he’s such a kind man despite all those unaccounted for billions of dollars. Canada is finished.

#52 Dolce Vita on 09.12.21 at 1:54 pm

#30 Woke up this morning…

And your point is?

A single even ticket sales low mean Vax Passport bad? *

Get this thru your thick head:

2020 Italia Covid

We do not want a repeat nor do we want superspreader events like the idiot UK surging in cases now, hospitalizations and even deaths.

If fact last year Italia barred most foreign travel with restrictions. National health more important than money.

*Look up: Non sequitur.

#53 Quintilian on 09.12.21 at 2:02 pm

Although a Liberal, I will not be voting Liberal this time.

Disappointed with the early election call. And also, because the macro landscape needs some radical left leaning policies to gain some badly needed force to bring back some equilibrium needed for a mixed economy to function more equitably.

The specuvestors, and the banksters, have become too rich, too fat, too insensitive, too greedy. The misallocations in the economy are at levels that are overcrowding real productive enterprise.

The status quo is breeding so much inequalities, the wealth gap is fast becoming a gulf. We are in danger of loosing Canada. We need to veer back to some fairness. There is real anger out there- the kind of anger that propelled Trump into power- Treacherous.

More seats for the NDP and Greens, at the expense of a Liberals, with a Liberal minority, would give Canada the best chance to Make Canada Great Again.

#54 AntMan on 09.12.21 at 2:02 pm

My libertarian heart is with Max. Alas, my vote will not be. Job 1 must be the eviction of the post modern PM. Vote with your head, not your heart.

#55 Reality check on 09.12.21 at 2:08 pm

The government will have nothing to target (as in scapegoat), once we are all vaccinated hence I don’t see it happening.

Additionally targeting perfectly healthy (non obese) young folks in their 20 & 30s, with less than 1% of having symptoms is insane (targeting the obesity epidemic is different story). Standing your ground to insane, is worth it. The courts will soon be involved, showing a violation of human rights (based on simplified solutions, as in not accounting for natural immunity testing).

#56 Dolce Vita on 09.12.21 at 2:11 pm

#1 Flop…

The UK is not doing well. Javid will cause an upsurge more than they already have. Winter is coming there. And the UK grants Vax Passports (their NHS) for travel to Italy, France and Greece.

Cases:

https://i.imgur.com/iKFgfsS.png

Hospital:

https://i.imgur.com/x0EfUyP.png

Deaths, mercifully the disconnect still works between cases and deaths even for the UK:

https://i.imgur.com/d0ZAmEB.png

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Start reading other dailies in the EU other than the BBC. Ignore Cdn & US MSM on Europe, 2 bricks short of a full load is an understatement.

#57 Cici on 09.12.21 at 2:34 pm

#8 canuck

Your Bernier rant convinces me that my vote for PPC is the right one. Bernier has a backbone. O’Toole doesn’t.

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Congratulations on cancelling your vote in favour of the Liberals. All of you hard-right neo-cons are effectively ensuring a Liberal MAJORITY, so bravo on that buds. Oh, and maybe one seat for Mad Max. Hurray!

Oh well, maybe this time round the Conservative strategists will realize that they’d be best off dumping that faction of their party that’s been dragging them through the mud for ions, and instead focus their energy on building a real progressive Conservative party with a platform that speaks to more level-headed centrists who are fed up with the divisive and dangerous politics and overspending courtesy of JT and his gang.

There’s no better way to weaken a party than by dividing it, and unfortunately this time-round, the Conservatives are once again doing just that to themselves. Oh brother!

#58 A on 09.12.21 at 2:41 pm

In November will be 10 y as I live in Canada and 2 as I got citizenship. Unfortunately, in the last few years Canada started to resemble USSR more and more. I came here to enjoy freedom, sadly I was mistaken. Freedom is a utopia. Everything is about control and money. You have money you can do what you want, you don’t, too bad, become subject of human experiments or starve. What an irony! People vote for slavery.

#59 Tamsen on 09.12.21 at 2:48 pm

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#60 Planetgoofy on 09.12.21 at 2:51 pm

#18 Damifino on 09.12.21 at 12:18 pm
#12 Dirty Dan

Bask in the glory of what Trump produced.
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A democracy-killing insurrection attempt?
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Trump filled a void that was created but the disenchanted public that was started long ago. He understood that.

The collapse that began in 2008 with widespread speculation on everything especially houses and where 10million peeps lost their home.
Bill Black an honest man and the head bank regulator warn on 60 minutes because no one would listen…The system was going to collapse and it did.
The people got squat where as the criminal banks got bail outs along with car companies ect ect.
And the Tea Party was started all because of this kind of crap. What don’t people understand about that the system is rigged? Go watch The Smartest Man in the Room.
Hilarious people blame Trump.
He just showed up at the right time.
Like Mad Max, the Maverick party and so on.

#61 Dolce Vita on 09.12.21 at 2:51 pm

#30 Woke up this morning…

PS:

End of August, best year for tourism in Italia, more than 2019 before the pandemic.

Foreign travel down. Fine by me. Italia loves its Green Pass and feels safe. If foreigners do not like it they can stay home.

But alas, wonder of wonders, foreigners want to feel safe as well:

“Tourism, for Google the most sought-after half of 2021 for holidays is Italy”

https://www.ilcittadinomb.it/stories/Cronaca/turismo-per-google-la-meta-piu-ricercata-del-2021-per-le-vacanze-e-litalia-e_1405513_11/

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Monza F1 is a superspreader event at 100K spectators. Few Italians will go to such an event Green Pass or not, still gunshy. Also the ticket PRICES DOUBLED vs. 2019 another reason why fewer Italians will attend (€128 for the lawn lowest price, €338 at the finish line to €1885 for the covered grandstand, kids €200 in the grandstand).

In Italia, we can watch it on TV live.

16K sold of 25K available yesterday data. 30% bought by the Dutch (because of Vestappen).

Disappointment for the Dutch, results (Canada’s L. Stroll 7th Aston Martin, +15.804s):

D. Ricciardo
McLaren
1:21:54.365

L. Norris
McLaren
+1.747s

V. Bottas
Mercedes
+4.921s

C. Leclerc
Ferrari
+7.309s

S. Pérez
Red Bull
+8.723s

Recap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZgniFQiTPA

#62 Bob uroncle on 09.12.21 at 2:53 pm

Time to introduce an Alcohol abstainers passport, as well as nicotine and THC free passports.

Let’s free ourselves from these drags on our health care system and lower costs for everyone who looks after themselves.

Why are we still financing the health care costs associated with the addictions? Giving helath care to the smokers, toker’s and drinkers? We know for a fact they cost us all a small fortune in health care costs as they badly age and die off slowly.

I could care less if their drug of choice is “legal”. It’s legal not to get vaccinated and we’re going to deign them employment!

Cancel the addicted losers out of our health care system for good! Why, I’m feeling better already…

#63 slick on 09.12.21 at 3:06 pm

This will be the second federal election in a row that the CPC tried to have a wuss lead the country. Scheer rolled over like a whipped dog, and never had the stones to rise up and bite T2. Now O’Toole is changing directions like a flag in the wind. Kept his head down in the debates, and won’t pick a lane now. They were ready with a platform and have been picked apart on gun control, abortion, monetary policy, taxes, and on and on. No firm response.

the CPC should have a laundry list of things that would cost T2 the election, and pound them home every chance they get. SNC, vaccine rollout, a grasp for majority with an unnecessary election call, Leaving the border open for 1 year too long, trudeau claiming to be a feminist while throwing women under the bus, and the biggie, the WE scandal. That last one was a blatant attempt to feather his own nest after politics. The list goes on, and the CPC will let victory slip away, AGAIN.

I am beside myself with disappointment with the poorly run campaign, but more so with O’Toole’s weak performance.

#64 T on 09.12.21 at 3:17 pm

#62 Bob uroncle on 09.12.21 at 2:53 pm
Time to introduce an Alcohol abstainers passport, as well as nicotine and THC free passports.

Let’s free ourselves from these drags on our health care system and lower costs for everyone who looks after themselves.

Why are we still financing the health care costs associated with the addictions? Giving helath care to the smokers, toker’s and drinkers? We know for a fact they cost us all a small fortune in health care costs as they badly age and die off slowly.

I could care less if their drug of choice is “legal”. It’s legal not to get vaccinated and we’re going to deign them employment!

Cancel the addicted losers out of our health care system for good! Why, I’m feeling better already…

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Tobacco tax, beer and wine tax, unvaccinated tax.

Simple. And 2 of 3 already exist.

#65 Dirty Dan on 09.12.21 at 3:17 pm

#62 Bob uroncle on 09.12.21 at 2:53 pm
Time to introduce an Alcohol abstainers passport, as well as nicotine and THC free passports.

That will come, but if you’re being realistic:

Next the dissidents, any media they can’t buy off or anyone that speaks out against the liberal party will be ‘deplatformed’ and have their ‘passport privileges’ revoked.

Then they’ll go after anyone with a ‘weapon’, we won’t need those or the people that support them.

Then we’ll selectively go after people we don’t like who are alcohol drinkers, smokers, overweight, draw cartoons of women in comic books with breasts larger than the government mandates.

Then lastly caffeine drinkers and anyone that doesn’t cry hard enough at a liberals funeral will have 3 generations put in a gulag.

So many drama queens. – Garth

#66 Bob in Hamilton on 09.12.21 at 3:24 pm

Yes, it’s starting to look like that Mad Max will spoil September 20 for O’Toole.

Prediction: T2 minority government + NDP support = T2 majority government for 4 more years. Not the liberal 175 seat pure majority but for the rest of us, sadly, the same thing in the end.

#67 Clewedin on 09.12.21 at 3:25 pm

The PPC are a joke but there’s nothing conservative about the Conservative Party.

#68 Yukon Elvis on 09.12.21 at 3:32 pm

#25 Polecat on 09.12.21 at 12:25 pm
Just want to share my covid experience. Got it April 2020, lasted about a month. First week my chest was so sore it hurt to breathe, let alone talk, and coughing was hell. Slept 12 hours a day and lost taste and smell as well as bouts of vertigo and numbness in my hands. Today I still have a dull chest pain and hands are numb but not as bad as when sick. I still get slight bouts of vertigo. Got carted out in ambulance last month due to an “episode”, I got massive vertigo, tunnel vision and slumped in my chair. My o2 sats were good, blood sugar good, blood pressure good and ecg good, I can’t explain it and have an ultrasound for my heart scheduled. Recommend the jab for anyone who wants it but thinking I have natural immunity. I do have 14 jabs in my immunization book since I require them to travel for work so not anti-vax. I’ll get the vax once travel for work starts again. I believe I am one of the covid “long haulers” and would like to be involved in a study with regard to this so I’ll do some digging on that. Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for sharing. Very informative. What is your age group?

#69 Habitt on 09.12.21 at 3:36 pm

62 bob you forgot obese and others. A long term smoker and or drinker may have paid more tax for those addictions than some healthy types. Don’t know about pot but we do know many addictions are mental health issues. Should cut them off as well. Wonder why the government simply doesn’t ban that stuff and sugar, salt, trans fats and a whole lot more. Oh and don’t be so quick to judge. Have a nice day.

#70 James on 09.12.21 at 3:38 pm

Well said today! I continue to Imagine a Government who’s social/environmental policy flows from being good stewards of the vibrancy of Canada’s Business interests, and the prosperity that results. To put it another way, If we continue to kill the means of prosperity, one day there will be none to share. Everyone Loses! Please vote thoughtfully!

#71 Canada vs. USSR no difference just the language on 09.12.21 at 3:38 pm

In November will be 10 y as I live in Canada and 2 as I got citizenship. Unfortunately, in the last few years Canada started to resemble USSR more and more. I came here to enjoy freedom, sadly I was mistaken. Freedom is a utopia. Everything is about control and money. You have money you can do what you want, you don’t, too bad, become subject of human experiments or starve. What an irony! People vote for slavery.

YOU ARE CORRECT 100% THIS EX-COUNTRY IS A LABOUR CONCENTTATION CAMP WITH A FAKE VENEER OF INCLUSIVENESS, DIVERSITY, WOKENESS AND FAKE LEFT WITH TRUDEAU AND THE LIBRANOS AS THE PINNACLE OF THIS GIGANTIC FRAUD!!!!

How did this poor blog attract so many whackadoodles? Who yell? – Garth

#72 KLNR on 09.12.21 at 3:41 pm

wouldn’t be surprised if the PPC took haldimand/norfolk and few other counties in SW ontario. also wouldn’t be surprised if JT walked away with a majority after all this drama.

#73 AM in MN on 09.12.21 at 3:57 pm

If O’Toole loses this it’s his own fault, and no else’s.

Rarely does a leader get to run against an opponent so hated as T2 is now.

It gets to their heads though. He needs to suck it up and do a deal with Max. Give the PPC 12 seats (but pulling the Con Candidate) in exchange for an agreement not to bring down the govt., and Max gives 50 seats of O’Toole’s choosing.

In 2000 the PCs ran just to bring down the then Canadian Alliance. 3 seats in BC alone. How did that work out for them?

#74 RAY SPENCER on 09.12.21 at 3:58 pm

Tony Seba is a “Futurist” and he has calculated the cost of travelling a km in a Battery Electric Vehicle with Full Self Driving (FSD) will be cheaper than the gas for a regular Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicle. Mr. Seba sees Robo- Taxis becoming avalible by 2025 and their acceptance will be dominate by 2030. The total number of vehicles on the road could shrink by 80% as the robo- taxis could be driving 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, and consumers will replace the ownership of their own vehicle to the convenience of just using a hailed robo- taxis . This transformation will be propelled strictly on the economics of using a robo- taxis, as opposed to the cost of purchasing a vehicle, the maintenance , fuel, insurance , personal time lost to driving.
The longer term fall- out of having 80% fewer cars is having 80% plus more parking space become available for something else. ( Another trend is the replacement of spacious shopping malls with home delivery)This could be the extra land needed to repurposed into affordable housing, condos, green space parks . There is virtually a second city waiting inside each existing city, waiting to be used intelligently. City planners could get strategic now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj96nxtHdTU

#75 Otoole4PM on 09.12.21 at 4:06 pm

Otoole is most trustworthy according to the polls. I don’t think Trudeau has a chance. he is a goner come sept20

#76 Pbrasseur on 09.12.21 at 4:14 pm

PPC is for free market capitalism and wants to abolish CMHC, for that alone they would normally get my vote.

But in this case I agree the urgency is to get rid of the liberals.

#77 Polecat on 09.12.21 at 4:15 pm

Yukon Elvis

I’m 49. Had H1N1 in 09 as well, it was bad but no long term symptoms as now.

#78 Steven on 09.12.21 at 4:16 pm

I think you hit the nail on the head. Plus this daycare program O’Toole will scrap. O’Toole has weakened past couple of weeks. No zing in campaign. Smiles a lot , solid guy but not a strategist. Trudeau is impenetrable. Like his Dad, great debater and communicator. Trudeau will be in next 4 years.

#79 G on 09.12.21 at 4:18 pm

Who to vote for this time?
Always important, maybe even more so this time!

Personally not liking this fascist, NWO, I admire CCP social credit score, supress free speech, doesn’t seem to have read the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms or just thinks it doesn’t apply to his actions, the budget will balance itself, PMT for many many strongly felt reasons.

Even that Ford guy and the woman NDP have crossed the line for me. With threat to businesses of fines unless they discriminate against “some people”. And she thinking that medical persons shouldn’t be able to peacefully protest near their employers.

Regarding some things, some time you just have to say I agree to disagree. Some call it “encouraged” others would use a different word. See video link.

But Garth makes a really good point about the issue being:
“MPs get elected by having a concentration of support in a single electoral district. This is why the Libs garnered a majority in 2019 even though the Cons received more votes. It’s all about distribution. Math. In no riding are there enough ani-vaxers to push a PPC candidate over the finish line.”

I’m glad I still have more than three days to sleep on it.
I’ll need to take another good look at the CPC party platform soon so I have three days to sleep on it also.

I saw this 4min54sec videos today and found it on YT. I think she has some good points.

Garth, Not trying to sneak anything past you, you might feel parts of what she has to say are within your, I must agree to disagree, this whole comment might not get posted. BTW I’d prefer a ’deleted’ on this one, if it comes to that, instead of wondering why it seems to have vanished altogether, was it Garth (your blog after all) or the internet AI filters.

This election seem to be more about the world you want to find yourself trying to live in the next morning. Like I said, I’m glad I still have more than three days to sleep on this issue of, math of my electoral district. And trying to recall how I voted last time and why.

Dr. Julie Ponesse PhD – Professor of Ethics, University of Western, was dismissed from her position of 20 years teaching Ethics, Sept.7.2021. 4min54sec. (She mentioned in this short talk that it might be her only Ethics 101 class, she uses herself as example in an ethics question for this class.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZMByqQOW7w

#80 UCC on 09.12.21 at 4:24 pm

This virus is now seasonal. You will get it. There is no way to stop it vaccinated or not.

If your vaccinated, you will get it, but you may have a lower chance of being very ill. (Good job)

If your unvaccinated, you will get it, but higher chance of being very ill. (Get your vaccine – better outcomes)

That said, vaccine passports server no real purpose. If your in a room with all vaccinate people, you can and will get covid-19. To make vaccine passport mandatory at this time is pure theater. Covid-19 cannot be stopped.

You can be pro-vaccine and anti-passport.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-boris-johnson-to-scrap-uk-vaccine-passports-for-winter-covid-19-plan/

Once again – Vaxports are designed to boost the ranks of the inoculated by removing social privileges for the unvaccinated. Then we are all safer. Simple. – Garth

#81 Ed on 09.12.21 at 4:35 pm

I remember Preston and the Reform Party did what the Conservatives were unable to do.

Perhaps the long road starts for the PPC to do the heavy lifting and bring Conservatives back to center from the hard left as well.

Reform yielded a long string of Liberal administrations and accomplished exactly zero. – Garth

#82 I'm not a doc on 09.12.21 at 4:40 pm

“Every Max vote is one less Erin ballot”…could it be possible that every Max vote is one less for T2 or every Erin vote is one less for T2 as well. T2 is not exactly popular these days except for the sheep in 905 and 416 which of course number a big set. But again his popularity is waning there also. Oh, if the polls are like the Trump election they could slightly be skewed by who pays the media…

#83 Phylis on 09.12.21 at 4:46 pm

#74 RAY SPENCER on 09.12.21 at 3:58 pm….The total number of vehicles on the road could shrink by 80% as the robo- taxis could be driving 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, and consumers will replace the ownership of their own vehicle to the convenience of just using a hailed robo- taxis .
Xxxxxxxxx
… with an extension cord.

#84 RE_Investor on 09.12.21 at 4:50 pm

#63 slick on 09.12.21 at 3:06 pm
I am beside myself with disappointment with the poorly run campaign, but more so with O’Toole’s weak performance…..

Totally agree with you. Conservatives should have went for the kill. People have short term memories, and reminding them constantly of the Liberal corruption would have helped.

#85 The joy of steerage on 09.12.21 at 5:03 pm

71 Canada vs. USSR no difference just the language on 09.12.21 at 3:38 pm
In November will be 10 y as I live in Canada and 2 as I got citizenship. Unfortunately, in the last few years Canada started to resemble USSR more and more. I came here to enjoy freedom, sadly I was mistaken. Freedom is a utopia. Everything is about control and money. You have money you can do what you want, you don’t, too bad, become subject of human experiments or starve. What an irony! People vote for slavery.

YOU ARE CORRECT 100% THIS EX-COUNTRY IS A LABOUR CONCENTTATION CAMP WITH A FAKE VENEER OF INCLUSIVENESS, DIVERSITY, WOKENESS AND FAKE LEFT WITH TRUDEAU AND THE LIBRANOS AS THE PINNACLE OF THIS GIGANTIC FRAUD!!!!

How did this poor blog attract so many whackadoodles? Who yell? – Garth

Can we send you back?

#86 cuke and tomato picker e on 09.12.21 at 5:15 pm

How will the 10 per cent increase in the OAS affect the
overall voting in this election for those 75 and over if Mr Trudeau gets elected?

#87 Mehling on 09.12.21 at 5:15 pm

https://financialpost.com/fp-work/howard-levitt-joe-biden-is-running-out-of-patience-with-the-unvaccinated-so-is-corporate-canada

Joe Biden is running out of patience with the unvaccinated so is corporate Canada

#88 NoName on 09.12.21 at 5:20 pm

#61 Dolce Vita on 09.12.21 at 2:51 pm

F1

When i lived on “your” continent i always watched F1, my old man made sure to remind so we would watch together, than i came here where races are is odd time of a day, and tv comentators would probably do better job or doing pantomime and covering the race overe them talking. Dont even get me started with what i think about soccer coverage…

Dude i knew had a F1 discarted tire, i dont know how to explain feeling when you touch it, so ill use same sentance that my doteur at age 6 used to explain touching sea ray for her homework “It was like anything”.

Best ever driver IMHO is Allan Prost.

Where i am going with this, ya this you might enjoy reading it. Its a dude from an acros sea from other side, writing all that, here is a link. That website is gold mine if you like F1.

http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/engine.html

#89 SUE on 09.12.21 at 5:21 pm

I’m wondering what everyone’s line in the sand is. 2 booster shots a year to participate in society? 3, 4?Seriously, what is the point at which you say no more?

A really smart person once said “Once you can smell the blood of the sheep in front of you, it’s too late.”

#90 VicPaul on 09.12.21 at 5:26 pm

#26 Vic on 09.12.21 at 12:32 pm
Max is close to 11% in many parts of Ontario as well, which is stunning.

Expect the NDP to pick up 5-6 extra seats in Alberta as a result of this, as well as 1-2 for the Liberals there.

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Vic, it’s obvious you’re a liberal try-hard – promoting the vote-stripping Max angle, “5 or 6 seats” in Alberta for the ndp…three posts of the same ilk. Say your piece, fine – but stop your transparent cheerleading.

I’m on record here endorsing some of the PPC platform as the most libertarian of any major party. That’s what I’d like to see more of:
1) liberty in personal and economic matters
2) smaller government – less overlap of social programs, less regulation on business – but responsible for protecting individuals from coercion and violence.
3) support free markets and promote and reward individual responsibility (like capitalism does)
4)promote private charity, be tolerant of diverse lifestyles/intellectual freedoms and defend civil liberties.

I’m not ten, though. I realize that this is not Max’s election to win. Erin, a man who served his country, is the logical choice for change – if for no other reason than he has promised to have a finance minister with a finance background – and undoubtedly less socialist-minded than the present office-holder.

M57BC

#91 Shawn Allen on 09.12.21 at 5:28 pm

Bring on the vaccine passports

Get rid of COVID test for Canadian travelers re-entering Canada. We either trust the vaccine or we don’t.

When looking at 20% or whatever of new cases being among the fully vaccinated keep in mind that they represent some 70% or whatever of the population

If the unvaccinated 30% or so of the population accounts for 70 to 80% of new cases, what does that tell you? (Hint, that vaccines are highly effective against contracting the virus – let alone getting seriously ill or worse).

#92 NOSTRADAMUS on 09.12.21 at 5:28 pm

PAUL REVERE, RIDES AGAIN!
Today’s stock market dreamers are much like the Paul Revere of old, riding and whipping their horses, all hell bent for leather, however, instead of spreading their warning of pending danger. “The English are coming, the English are coming.” No, today, they have a new rallying call, “The market is back, the market is back.” It is safe to come on in. I sometimes think, today, we are much like rats in a cage and somehow, sense some impending doom at a subconscious level. So we go out and spend, spend, spend, and spend even more. Enjoying the moment , so we buy, houses, cars (sorry, trucks), restaurants, bars, travel, boats ,luxury toys, all with borrowed money. So reminiscent of days gone by, 1987 stock market correction, 2000 tech bubble implosion, 2008, US. housing correction, 2019 Covid-19 landing. Today, I think Paul Revere is riding a dead horse. As previously predicted, “Beware The Ides Of November.” I am on my throne and I will not step down.

#93 Sayonara on 09.12.21 at 5:29 pm

This is simple.

Lots of people don’t want JT’s new globalist/socialist utopia, and they can’t trust Red Erin because he’s a flip flopper who’s a fake conservative.

Blaming Antivaxxers is dumb and not accurate. O’Toole has sunk his own campaign by changing his formerly conservative positions to liberal positions.

Centrist policies – how you get elected. – Garth

#94 Doug t on 09.12.21 at 5:29 pm

This country is a mess – it’s hard to believe the amount of idiots that will once again vote for T2 – a horrible leader – are they that dim that they cannot see what he has done to this country – he has turned us against each other, filled us with guilt, destroyed our children’s future and wore black face ffs – not to mention his slimy involvement with a certain charity and the SNC Lavalin affair – oh well Canada you get what you deserve- I often wonder the percentage of women to men that support Trudeau? hhhhmmmm I think I already know

#95 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.12.21 at 5:37 pm

Hey everybody!
Did ya miss me?
( I know ponzie was pineing )
Apologies to alllll my fans.

I had to pop over to Vancouver Island for 24 hrs.
While I was there some friends mentioned the Saturday advanced polls were a complete clusterfrack.

Seems the usual polling station was open for the advanced poll….. for people from another part of the town….
So dozens pf people walked to the “Polling Station” in their neighborhood, where they have voted for years …only to be told.
Sorry, you have to drive to the other side of town to vote….
And as the people left to walk home… and armada of cars arrived from….”the other side of town” to vote.

The advanced voters were literally drive past each other in opposite directions to vote

These are predominantly NDP ridings.
One wonders if the Liberal govt planned it that way.

OR if the truly stupid were in charge.
Govts. Bureaucrats….does it get any better?

#96 So glad I sold on 09.12.21 at 5:42 pm

No. 25 Polecat
My daughter is also a longhauler with Covid and recommended you get tested for granulomatosis with Polyangitis as she got it as a result of Covid and they are finding there’s a larger number of people testing for that now.

#97 Shawn Allen on 09.12.21 at 5:52 pm

All Money Leads to Banks

On another topic… not only does all money lead to banks but if you think about it all money is created in banks and mostly stays in banks permanently.

Strange but true.

Paper cash accounts for a small fraction of the Money Supply. The vast majority consists of bank deposits.

Where is your money? Not your wealth but your money? I’ll bet it is a bank account.

Most businesses have little need to hold paper money and their “cash” is actually in bank deposit accounts.

Whenever we spend money with a debit card, cheque or other electronic transfer we are merely sending money from our bank account to some other bank account. That money never leaves the banking system.

Talk of excess consumer or corporate savings is a bit nonsensical since it merely offsets loans owed by others.

I continue to maintain that the nature of money is one of the great mysteries of life. It’s not what it seems.

On the other hand we don’t need to understand how money is created or what it is to accumulate it.

#98 cuke and tomato picker on 09.12.21 at 5:53 pm

So O’Toole does not want mandatory vaccinations. What
is his position on seat belts and helmets etc?

#99 Figus Makum on 09.12.21 at 5:53 pm

Long time professor of medical ethics at Western University, and a vocal PPC supporter, fired last week because she refused to take the jab.

Her YouTube video in need of major factchecking.

https://youtu.be/fqHfx5SGaWE

An ‘educated’ uni prof calling an FDA-approved vaccine “experimental.” And she’s teaching your kids? Yikes. – Garth

#100 Sam on 09.12.21 at 5:56 pm

Please someone explain to me the difference between O’Toole and trudeau because I don’t see it. The only party PPC is taking votes from is the rhinoceros party. People who thought this whole first past the post system is a joke skewed to the super rich, finally feel like they have a voice.

It was one idiot who threw gravel, not ‘supporters’. No misinformation please. Just like one idiot broke an egg on Berniers head.

Just because majority thinks we must be forced into being vaxxed, doesn’t make it right. That’s why there’s a Canadian charter of rights to guide us between what’s right and wrong.

Look throughout history. Whenever 5-10% of people felt they had ‘no clout, no champion, no options’ it didn’t end well.

This pandemic hasn’t just been about sacrificing quality of life for kids to save some near-end-of-life folks. It’s more about control and justifying more government. If you really think we’ll go back to pre-pandemic life once we’re 100% vaccinated, read some articles from a year ago for some perspective.

If you want protection from covid, take the vaccine. It saves lives. If you don’t want to, that’s fine too. You’re not going to harm those who are vaccinated despite what they say.

Let’s go back to respecting each other’s opinions again and agreeing to disagree. But I suppose that doesn’t attract readers.

#101 Scott on 09.12.21 at 6:05 pm

“Every Max vote is one less Erin ballot, since there’s little doubt the give-me-liberty crowd (of fearful, selfish people) are rightists.”

Hillary felt the same way thinking she was entitled to every vote for Jill Stein. JT could make the claim (and has) that every vote for the NDP or Greens is a vote to help get the blues elected. It’s BS. I only know three anti vaxers (colleagues at work about to lose their job and fight the new mandate). Not one of them would turn up at the poles if they didn’t have one of their cult brethren to tick the box for.

I’d imagine with my gender, age and income I’d be about a 90% probability to vote blue. I spoiled a vote two elections ago and voted Green in the last. This time around it was NDP. No one is entitled to anyone’s vote.

#102 Bonobo on 09.12.21 at 6:09 pm

I hope Trudeau wins with very slim 5-10 seat minority. Sure the NDP will prop up the Lib’s but then after another 4 years of hopeless leadership between the two Socialist/Marxist leaning parties there may be a chance that Canadians will finally wake up and there will be a landslide Conservative win 4 years from now. If not then all bets are off and it will be time to batten down the hatches – the ride is gonna get rough…

#103 Dmitry on 09.12.21 at 6:18 pm

Obviously PPC matters if you write about it. Canada is accelerating towards major societal collapse. It is important to have some practical seeds from which it can be rebuild. Think 5 to 10 years rather than immediate result of this election. Look at how society changed in two years and imagine what happens next. No, we are not going back to “normal”. As I said before, you, Garth, have given up on your freedom. And you are far from alone in this. This guarantees that Canada will spiral further away from “normal”. And no vaccine will return you your freedom.

Societal collapse? Another drama queen. – Garth

#104 Billy Buoy on 09.12.21 at 6:21 pm

For ANYONE who has the audacity to vote for Jr. , you have the same sensibilities as the fools who voted for Donald and the mass murderer George W.

Think about it and do the right thing….

Please use the thing between your ears. Please.

#105 david on 09.12.21 at 6:22 pm

O’Toole and other conservative will have no choice but to negociate with Maxime Bernier, otherwise they will lose all next elections. Deal with it.

#106 SoggyShorts on 09.12.21 at 6:31 pm

Yeesh, blog dogs are pretty dumb today.

“Voting for Max instead of O’tool means that neither get the seat and libs get more” -Garth

“That makes sense, so if I am Right-leaning at all, or even just anti-JT I should hold my nose and vote for the Right candidate who could actually get a seat, not the one I like best” -anyone with a brain

But over half of today’s comments are:
Max represents my values so I’m voting for him to uh.. send a message or something” – dumbdogs

Hint: the message you are sending is that you are dumb.

#107 UCC on 09.12.21 at 6:31 pm

Once again – Vaxports are designed to boost the ranks of the inoculated by removing social privileges for the unvaccinated. Then we are all safer. Simple. – Garth

I’m sorry, but its not that simple. Your not safer-that’s a fallacious statement. The vaccine may reduce hospital stay and deaths, but it does not make “all” safer. Covid is no longer a pandemic which had containment possibilities; its how here for good as a seasonal virus. We need to learn to live with it. In short the vaccinate will get covid.

To your thought on removing social privileges—there is little to-no proof it the passport will do what you think it will do with the un-vaccinated crowd–behavior modification. It might lead to worse outcomes socially in the long run.

Vaccine passports “in-country” are poor logic. The logic of punishing the “deemed to be” good to get to the bad, of creating guarded social privileges out of thin air when no such guarded social privileges previously existed. There is absolutely no honour in that type of process. Why not just weld the doors shut of all the folks who haven’t been vaccinated? Certainly the provincial governments know exactly who isn’t vaccinated.

I didn’t serve this country to have some wonky politician force me to carry passport in my own country. I know if vaccine passports become due rigor, my double vaccinate body will not participate. I will eschew any place in Canada that requires it. There will be many others who think this way as well. In the end this passport requirement will be causing another problem — a rift in the country social fabric of the very people you really didn’t intend to piss off-many who take it very personally.

We need to fix the real problems. Get the un-vaccinated educated. Have them come to the vaccinated centers on their own. And of course fix the biggest problem of all- Hospitals ICU thresholds and their low capacity. Fixing capacity is a much better solution and we know that will work not only for covid, but for other health services. Nothing wasted – a more inclusive solution.

#108 Common Sense on 09.12.21 at 6:32 pm

The former Reform and now PPC movements are lazy… rather than change the right through hard work, party politics, and influence they just split off to make their own party. This fractures the conservative votes and leaves only liberals left as the main stream choice.

Regardless, go vote. Exercise your right and your obligation to civil democratic society. It’s your chance to have a voice with the rest of Canadian citizens. Strong voter turnout means strong engagement from the citizenry. Low voter turns means apathy and a blank check for governments to do whatever.

Go vote.

#109 Whackadoodle on 09.12.21 at 6:40 pm

How did this poor blog attract so many whackadoodles? Who yell? – Garth

Maybe Whackadoodle is a greaterfool new breed?

Mix of Whippit and Labradoodle, this new breed is a direct reflection of the craziness of the mainstream we live in today. A sort of balance against the nuttiness of the left we somehow consider normal, if you will.

#110 Damifino on 09.12.21 at 6:40 pm

#100 Scott

JT could make the claim (and has) that every vote for the NDP or Greens is a vote to help get the blues elected.
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He can make that claim. But in his case, it’s a fallacy. A vote for the NDP is at least vote for a party that would support a Liberal minority.

A vote for the PPC is a vote into thin air that might have supported the Cons and possibly helped depose the most inept Canadian PM in decades.

A more noble cause, by far.

#111 Ed Jamnisek on 09.12.21 at 6:41 pm

Did you know that the Wuhan flu vaccine contains a microchip? Would you consent to putting that in your body?

#112 AM in MN on 09.12.21 at 6:47 pm

Reform yielded a long string of Liberal administrations and accomplished exactly zero. – Garth

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Reform brought conservatism back to Canada. Under Mulroney the deficit and spending were out of control due to trying to buy off Quebec.

Even though it was Martin who had to implement the spending cuts of the ’90’s, it was due to the pressure from Reform (& bond markets).

Manning then left his conservative roots at the door while he tried to become a populist, and was replaced.

As Margaret Thatcher said, “the basic facts of life are conservative”, and there will always be a segment of the population pushing for it.

If O’Toole blows this then he and the liberal lite brand of “Conservative” will be finished like Mulroney’s was.

Mulroney’s GST was the deficit-slayer, and he knew it would bring defeat. But it was the right nothing to do. So he did it. I stood with him. – Garth

#113 Woke up this morning... on 09.12.21 at 6:49 pm

#100 Sam

Funny your comment is #100…because it is 100% correct.

#114 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.12.21 at 6:57 pm

#43 Flop… on 09.12.21 at 1:21 pm
Sun is coming out in Vancouver.

I think I will go up to the bustling 41st Avenue with my sign.

Honk if you’re an Unsturdy Conservative…
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You surly mean “unhinged” Conservative.

#115 Damifino on 09.12.21 at 6:57 pm

#100 Sam

Please someone explain to me the difference between O’Toole and trudeau because I don’t see it.
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Let me help you with that. Try to imagine Mr. O’Toole in blackface at a frat party, or dressing like a fool on an official trip to India, or snickering in the corner like a ten-year-old at a G7 meeting, or asking forgiveness for having no thoughts about monetary policy.

#116 C2UrBack on 09.12.21 at 7:01 pm

Most people being mandated to vaccinate belong to unions (nurses, teachers, police officers, firefighters, etc…). Most unionised employees traditionally vote Liberal and NDP. I feel that many of these Canadians will vote PPC to help preserve their right to choose and also attempt to blunt the Feds general erroding of Unions.

Of course some traditional fiscal Conservatives may vote PPC due to an incompetent opposition but I think the PPC will grab votes across all party platforms.

Watching PPC candidates over the past few weeks convinced me that they are not anti-vaxers (although they may attract some from the Green party). They stand for the basic core values that will unify the nation and get us back on track.

#117 Balmuto on 09.12.21 at 7:03 pm

PPC supporters for the most part are vaccine and climate change skeptics. I don’t agree with this view, but that is their opinion and they have the right to express it.

Their leader should not have been shut out of the leadership debates. Based on popular vote they had as much right to be there as the Green Party.

This is cancel culture, and it has the effect that it only whips up support for their party even more.

The backlash O’Toole is getting now is due to a) Bernier not getting a chance to voice his opinion in debates and b) O’Toole not picking up the slack and at least giving those opinions some airtime (to be heard, not necessarily to be agreed with).

Instead it seems O’Toole was constantly trying to distance himself from the “elephant in the room”. To a sizable portion of his base, this appeared weak. He didn’t stick up for them. I’m not surprised he’s losing support to the PPC because of it.

#118 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.12.21 at 7:07 pm

90k full time employees added.
Was out shopping and eating in the LOWER MAINLAND.
Stupentious crowds everywhere.
Spending like there is no tomorrow.
Why would anyone wanna change Gubernments in times like this.
“IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID”.

#119 SNC-Lavalin on 09.12.21 at 7:11 pm

A simple question.

If something like the SNC affair cannon be investigated in a democratic country like Canada, where every voter and citizen would agree it should be, what does this say about Canada?

How is this different than the inability to investigate the origin of Covid with Chinese authorities blocking access in the very same manner.

We think we’re different, but we’re more alike that we think, unfortunately.

#120 Diamond Dog on 09.12.21 at 7:25 pm

#74 RAY SPENCER on 09.12.21 at 3:58 pm

I’ve enjoyed Tony Seba’s lectures over the years myself. His take on market disruption and S curves is well worth any one of his lectures and his take on the need for a new energy bill is spot on. Law makers should be looking at this in Canada as well. Thanks for the link!

#121 Islanddave on 09.12.21 at 7:27 pm

Just to share my thoughts on all this… I think the cons campaign has managed to interest me this time… which the scheer campaign did not.
In the riding in which I live… makes no difference really
It’s a pretty safe seat for the ndp generally
But I do think a lot of people are genuinely tired of the young Trudeau…
Occasionally change for the sake of change just might be a good thing

#122 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.12.21 at 7:28 pm

Not that is matters to me.
But in a time, when looks outvote smarts and integrity,
I wonder if the O’Tooles have enough of the former.

#123 yvr_lurker on 09.12.21 at 7:30 pm

Vaccine mandates implemented for non-essential activities (restaurants, movies, sporting and cultural events, airplanes, etc..) and similar mandates for hospital and long-term care home workers, and the military, is a sensible, pragmatic approach.

However, where does the line get drawn? Mandates for teachers? students? U. professors, employees of generic companies? Gov’t workers in offices? Tradespeople who deal with the public? For entering a grocery store or Walmatt? In my view that is a bridge too far. Need not have Gov’t remove all civil liberties and impose Gov’t mandates when there is no long-term data. Balance between civil liberties and pragmatic ways to end the pandemic. I prefer the approach of educating those dimwits who have resisted taking the vaccine, by all possible avenues (CNN and CBC stories of those unvaccinated on their death bed who wish they would have done it seems like a good mechanism). However, ultimately for just the bare bones of daily life it should be everyone’s choice and not mandated.

Enforcing a universal mandate begs many questions:

1. who is responsible if long-term data finds some problems with the vaccines (the companies involved will be absolved by Gov’t, just like the airlines were in dealing with lawsuits from 9/11)?

2. Does the universal mandate get modified so that a second and third booster must be achieved by a certain specific date at the risk of the person being noncompliant? Who pray-tell makes that global decision?

3. What about other mandates coming down the pipe (of lesser merits) once the Gov’t sees that people will largely comply with whatever is imposed.

Needs a balance between ensuring civil liberties and pragmatic ways to curtail the epidemic. Global mandate=No.

#124 SW on 09.12.21 at 7:31 pm

#94 Doug t on 09.12.21 at 5:29 pm
“This country is a mess … oh well Canada you get what you deserve- I often wonder the percentage of women to men that support Trudeau? hhhhmmmm I think I already know”

Because he’s a babe magnet? Is that what you’re saying?

Why are all you guys so afraid of Mr. Trudeau? Calling him nasty names and such. Perhaps he’s a bit too attractive? Hmm?

#125 Elon Fanboy on 09.12.21 at 7:38 pm

Herd immunity has become irrelevant with these highly transmissible variants.

It used to be a given that once you hit 75%-ish vax rates the virus ran out of hosts.

Not so with Delta. If even the vaxed can pass it on, what% vaxed do we need to hit for health services to stop being overwhelmed….90-95%?

Is that even possible?

#126 Steven Rowlandson on 09.12.21 at 7:39 pm

In 3 years the vaxxed and their leaders will for the most part be disabled or dead and gone due to blood clots, auto immune disorders, sterility and possibly mad cow disease. The blame will rest with government and their allies. What is left of the unvaxxed will inherit the country and there will be no more of this criminal democracy and communism nonsense. The future is ours.

#127 The joy of steerage on 09.12.21 at 7:45 pm

#116 C2UrBack on 09.12.21 at 7:01 pm
Most people being mandated to vaccinate belong to unions (nurses, teachers, police officers, firefighters, etc…). Most unionised employees traditionally vote Liberal and NDP. I feel that many of these Canadians will vote PPC to help preserve their right to choose and also attempt to blunt the Feds general erroding of Unions.

Of course some traditional fiscal Conservatives may vote PPC due to an incompetent opposition but I think the PPC will grab votes across all party platforms.

Watching PPC candidates over the past few weeks convinced me that they are not anti-vaxers (although they may attract some from the Green party). They stand for the basic core values that will unify the nation and get us back on track.
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A basic core value indeed…. breathing with your testicles…. the PPC whack a doodles strike again…… incoming Minister of Health I presume…..

https://thepostmillennial.com/ppc-candidate-calls-himself-a-semen-retention-soldier-claims-he-can-breathe-through-his-testicles

#128 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.12.21 at 7:58 pm

#109 Ed Jamnisek on 09.12.21 at 6:41 pm
Did you know that the Wuhan flu vaccine contains a microchip? Would you consent to putting that in your body?
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There are different kinds of microchips
I already got the one that makes you a fluent Mandarin speaker.
Next up is the one that makes you a Championship Ping-Pong player.

#129 slick on 09.12.21 at 8:05 pm

further to my opinion of O’Toole and scheer being weak;
Remember when Chretien grabbed that guy by the throat? That’s what I want O’Toole to do. He needs to at least act as pissed off as the rest of us feel. He needs to talk down to T2, and let him know that Canadians are ‘Mad as Hell, and we’re not gonna take it anymore’!!

KLNR, #72;
The PPC won’t come close to stealing this seat, but might make it interesting. We here in H/N are not happy about the CPC parachuting in their next leader. They are heading so far left that they are about where the Liberals were 6 years ago. Finley wasn’t the strongest candidate, but at least she was a local gurl.

#130 Rural Rick on 09.12.21 at 8:08 pm

Funny how folks come here to learn how to improve their financial health by listening to the Bearded Ones guidance. He is wise, experienced and has way better data than we do. Guy’s an expert that’s why we are here.
But for immunology and public health matters some think they know better than Public Health Experts because of some anecdotally vague reasons and a poor understanding of statistics among other things.
If you hired a lawyer or mechanic and didn’t take their advice it probably wouldn’t turn out too good for you and you would be considered a fool. The same thing here.
Get the shot and we can all move on.

#131 Diamond Dog on 09.12.21 at 8:32 pm

#100 Sam on 09.12.21 at 5:56 pm

I have to respectfully disagree. Non vaccinated means more virus floating around and this means more mutations which means a greater chance of a virus that will become more contagious and harmful as has already happened with Delta.

More mutations opens the door to more risk not just to immediate human health, but risk of mutations increasing cytokine storms in the young for example, or risk of a second strain with it’s own separate serotype created by an infected human passing Covid to an animal that reinfects the infected human with mixed DNA, i.e., a second strain that can reinfect the world all over again with impunity.

Covid19 has also shown ADE markers, or Antibody Dependent Enhancement:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement

This is what keeps vaccine manufacturers up at night, how can they create a vaccine that lessens or nullifies, if possible, ADE should a second strain develop.

Less virus, simply put, means less chance of mutations and that’s best for everyone.

Meanwhile, we should be mindful of our immune systems regardless in case a new drug therapy doesn’t come or mutations turn more virulent and deadly. A good diet, sleep, exercise, Vit D, Zinc/Copper, less stress, none of this is bad for us. Rule of thumb is, high sugar low fiber foods are poison while high fiber low sugar is the key to longevity. Obesity kills and Covid19 exploits it. We should well understand this by now.

How many of us are walking around with a body fat index greater than 20%? Try 80% of the 40+% that are walking around obese. They struggle to get a full breath, their inside abdominal cavities are so loaded with excess fat. A full third of the population is walking around sick just from obesity alone. Clogged heart, NAFLD (non alchohol fatty liver disease), marbled kidneys, pancreas, organs etc. and we know how it happened. Sedentary lifestyle (not necessarily someone’s fault when one considers the types of jobs out there) combined with the modern food supply where +75% of every food product has added sugar. Corporate greed, woefully inadequate government regulation i.e. corruption have taken their toll.

We talk about economics and housing as being the #1 election issues and it’s been framed that way but anyone that’s educated knows you can’t fix government spending without fixing healthcare and you can’t fix healthcare without true regulation of the food supply. Not one party is talking about doing it and it’s shameful.

What issue is #1 except for the minds of most voters? The world’s greatest threat is all, climate change. This is the immediate threat to civilization as we know it and yet, we treat it as a slow burn or not impacting us in our lifetime or not happening at all up here in smug, myopic, self interested Canada. Oh? Canadians think we aren’t? Go watch a leaders debate. It’s shameful. We think climate change isn’t having an impact because only farmers and lovers of trees in BC and people with lungs downwind in the prairies breathing the smoke feel it, but the numbers this year in the U.S. are far more sobering.

Just check out these headlines:

https://www.cnn.com/specials/world/cnn-climate

Some rightly call it a climate crisis while others call it climate porn. What one can’t call the wildfires in Cali or crop failures and the floods in the east states is made up. We listen to money managers bullish on stocks with the S/P 500 trading at +39 earnings, citing vaccines and reopened economies but are they taking note of what’s happening on the coasts where the majority of Americans live?

Investors look for signs. Missed August U.S. jobs report, missed retail, covid cases bouncing over 150k, burning west, flooded east and this:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/12/tropical-storm-nicholas-forms-in-the-gulf-of-mexico.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25vNsuoI3Ls&t=477s

Sure, CB’s can heavily influence the markets. But as the old saying goes, one can only squeeze so much blood and sweat out of paper. Tread wisely.

#132 S.Bby on 09.12.21 at 8:36 pm

The stock market is no measure of the economy any more. It is a derivative of central bank money printing. As long as CBs continue to debase the currencies the stock market will go up in nominal terms but it hasn’t really gone anywhere in real terms.

I’m making bank. – Garth

#133 The joy of steerage on 09.12.21 at 8:36 pm

#126 Steven Rowlandson on 09.12.21 at 7:39 pm
In 3 years the vaxxed and their leaders will for the most part be disabled or dead and gone due to blood clots, auto immune disorders, sterility and possibly mad cow disease. The blame will rest with government and their allies. What is left of the unvaxxed will inherit the country and there will be no more of this criminal democracy and communism nonsense. The future is ours.
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Ok that was funny… nice satire!

#134 S.Bby on 09.12.21 at 8:39 pm

I’m voting for the PPC because I know Jasmeet will win in my riding anyways so I may as well vote for the guy I like.

#135 KLNR on 09.12.21 at 8:48 pm

@#130 Rural Rick on 09.12.21 at 8:08 pm
Funny how folks come here to learn how to improve their financial health by listening to the Bearded Ones guidance. He is wise, experienced and has way better data than we do. Guy’s an expert that’s why we are here.
But for immunology and public health matters some think they know better than Public Health Experts because of some anecdotally vague reasons and a poor understanding of statistics among other things.
If you hired a lawyer or mechanic and didn’t take their advice it probably wouldn’t turn out too good for you and you would be considered a fool. The same thing here.
Get the shot and we can all move on.

truly bizarre

#136 Gary on 09.12.21 at 8:49 pm

A 40 year worker, contributing member of society here in Canada and have never seen such irresponsibility and useless people in power. Garth and others, do you really think the governments of the world and central banks are going to save us.

If spending like there is no more consequences, making us all more in be in massive debt, medically pumping us with many drugs, meds, telling us it is all for our own good and controlling everything in our lives worked, we would be all working as slaves in whatever they told us to do.

I thought low interest rates were a good thing Garth now you don’t want them anymore. All our money and freedom is going to crap and you can’t sugarcoat it.

#137 FriedEggs on 09.12.21 at 9:02 pm

A lot of malfunctioning pineal glands out there.

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#138 KLNR on 09.12.21 at 9:04 pm

@#103 Dmitry on 09.12.21 at 6:18 pm
Obviously PPC matters if you write about it. Canada is accelerating towards major societal collapse. It is important to have some practical seeds from which it can be rebuild. Think 5 to 10 years rather than immediate result of this election. Look at how society changed in two years and imagine what happens next. No, we are not going back to “normal”. As I said before, you, Garth, have given up on your freedom. And you are far from alone in this. This guarantees that Canada will spiral further away from “normal”. And no vaccine will return you your freedom.

Societal collapse? Another drama queen. – Garth

Every election there’s a percentage of people who are convinced the world will burn if their guy/gal/person doesn’t win. ‘you must be dumb if you don’t vote for my guy/gal/person’ is another go-to for these folks.

#139 KLNR on 09.12.21 at 9:09 pm

@#93 Sayonara on 09.12.21 at 5:29 pm
This is simple.

Lots of people don’t want JT’s new globalist/socialist utopia, and they can’t trust Red Erin because he’s a flip flopper who’s a fake conservative.

Blaming Antivaxxers is dumb and not accurate. O’Toole has sunk his own campaign by changing his formerly conservative positions to liberal positions.

Centrist policies – how you get elected. – Garth

guess it was just a matter of time before the conservatives started eating their own again.
at least in this part of the internet :)

#140 When Will They Raise Rates? on 09.12.21 at 9:48 pm

#133 The joy of steerage on 09.12.21 at 8:36 pm

#126 Steven Rowlandson on 09.12.21 at 7:39 pm
In 3 years the vaxxed and their leaders will for the most part be disabled or dead and gone due to blood clots, auto immune disorders, sterility and possibly mad cow disease. The blame will rest with government and their allies. What is left of the unvaxxed will inherit the country and there will be no more of this criminal democracy and communism nonsense. The future is ours.
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Ok that was funny… nice satire!

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I was actually slightly aroused by that post lol

On a serious note, Garth is absolutely correct. A vote for PPC is unfortunately a vote for Mr. Trudeau.

This is like Ron Paul circa 2008. Not a chance in hell of winning that year, but his movement bore fruit in 2016…

We don’t have 8 years for to wait this time around, Trudeau is playing for all the marbles and if god forbid he wins, we are all truly screwed.

Let’s remove the cancer right now, then we can focus on rebuilding the conservative movement in Canada going forward.

#141 McSteve on 09.12.21 at 9:51 pm

Ontario minor hockey will soon ban everyone who is unvaxinated and over the age of 12 from entering facilities. Even to watch.

#142 Doug t on 09.12.21 at 10:03 pm

#124 SW

AND this is why I wonder how certain people vote lol

#143 Do we have all the facts on 09.12.21 at 10:06 pm

T#112 AM in MN

If you subtract the additional interest charges created by the series of deficits generated by the Liberal party led by Pierre Trudeau between 1975 and 1984 from the total expenditures incurred by the Conservative Party led by Brian Mulroney between 1984 and 1993 you will discover that the Conservative Party actually generated a sizeable operating surplus during their time in office.

A majority of the debt attributed to the Conservatives under Brian Mulroney was a direct result of over $80 billion in operating deficits and over $45 billion in additional debt servicing costs incurred by the Liberal Party under Pierre Trudeau.

Now the same fate awaits whatever party assumes power after September 20.

#144 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.12.21 at 10:08 pm

#141 McSteve on 09.12.21 at 9:51 pm
Ontario minor hockey will soon ban everyone who is unvaxinated and over the age of 12 from entering facilities. Even to watch.
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Everywhere in Canada.
Get your shots if you want to see your kids play.

#145 cuke and tomato picker on 09.12.21 at 10:09 pm

You want better leaders in government than don’t throw
rocks at them who wants to run for office when people
disrespect them.

#146 Robert Ash on 09.12.21 at 10:36 pm

I hope Mr. Market is not at Covid Risk, as it might be dangerous time, if the Credit market and Fed overshoot the Financial Repression.

#147 Robert Ash on 09.12.21 at 10:46 pm

Sweet Thundering Lord, I thought we had him on the Run… Even if you like Bernier, don’t do it,… We need JT back in the Classroom.

#148 mike from mtl on 09.12.21 at 10:51 pm

#130 Rural Rick on 09.12.21 at 8:08 pm

But for immunology and public health matters some think they know better than Public Health Experts because of some anecdotally vague reasons and a poor understanding of statistics among other things.
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Probably get deleted again but somehow most past rumours turned out to be completely correct, funny that? Thing is public health was very much a back office affair prior to the Covid mass psychosis, it is as much political as ideological. Last I checked none of the measures from the “experts” has made any difference but hey I don’t work in Government to look like doing something is making a difference.

Very convenient for a ruling party to have essentially dictator level powers with zero opposition, no defined terms, the goal posts keep getting farther away.

Reality is CV19 ‘vaccines’ are no different to the Flu vax, you can still defiantly get it, spread it, is very short lived however mostly keeps the worst outcome from yourself. So yeah sort of works but is sketchy long term and not zero risk to children.

A refresher from 9/11 is that these things don’t tend to disappear, only get more onerous.

#149 TurnerNation on 09.12.21 at 10:55 pm

The War on Small Business. (Is anybody surprised?)
The nest phase of this Global WW3.

https://www.richmond-news.com/bc-news/not-all-bc-restaurants-will-require-vaccine-card-for-access-heres-what-you-need-to-know-4310887
“Not all B.C. restaurants will require vaccine card for access. Here’s what you need to know
There are some key exceptions to B.C.’s new proof-of-vaccination requirement at non-essential businesses like restaurants.”


— The Business of Sports. That list of supposed leaked info of the future from 1969 – was that Soccer would be the main sport remaining. How would they do this?
(All the Old Culture must be torn down Comrade.)

https://news3lv.com/news/local/raiders-ticket-prices-slip-ahead-of-ravens-game
“LAS VEGAS (KSNV) — The cost of going to the Monday night regular-season Raiders home opener against the Ravens continues to fall, thanks in large part to a growing supply and less demand. And, at least some of the decreased demand could have to do with the decision to require proof of vaccinations for admission to Allegiant Stadium for Raiders’ games.”

….
-Life in Kanada. Around a year after hundreds of millions of dollars was spent in building ‘Field Hospitals’ in Vancouver, Toronto, Hamilton they were torn down. Why? Tells you this is not about ‘hospital capacity’ at all.
…..

–From July 26th but still of relevance. All this money being given away and to overseas by the so called Government. Yet in this Former First World Country…

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/emergency-department-gatineau-hospital-closed-150512427.html
“The Gatineau Hospital’s emergency department will be closed until 4 p.m. on Monday due to a nursing shortage, according to western Quebec’s health unit.”

#150 VladTor on 09.12.21 at 11:17 pm

“Voting for Max instead of O’tool means that neither get the seat and libs get more” -Garth
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Not only Cons but also Libs and NDP will have less.

I feel that Libs + NDP will not have now majority in polling stations.

Funny for you Garth. Just I feel ! Nothing else!

May be voting by mail help them?

#151 PM on 09.13.21 at 1:06 am

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#152 Faron on 09.13.21 at 1:12 am

Watching the rise of the PPC is similar to the rise of the Tea Party in the US where a more extreme faction managed to take the party hostage. I wonder how much longer before center right conservatives find themselves having to shift right or lose power. This process has lead to the extreme polarization present in the US now where Trump has everyone by the short and curlies. Seems like Max is well on his way to the same here if he manages to keep the conservatives from power.

In other news, downloaded my vax passport. Need to show it at work tomorrow. Shrug. No skin off my back despite all the hoopla from the anti vax whiners. The future is now.

#153 Michael in-north-york on 09.13.21 at 1:17 am

Bernier’s position on vaccines is strange. You can be pro-choice, that’s fine. But why do you have to refuse getting vaccinated yourself, if you personally believe that vaccine works? Or maybe this is his way of getting attention ..

And yes, votes for PPC will lower the Cons chances, and help the Libs.

That said, I’m not amuzed with the vaxport idea. In the long term, I fully expect a growing number of people who are pro-vax but anti-vaxport. The reason is the complexity of administering the vaxports, which will become evident in just a few months.

When you get your drivers license, your driving skills will remain solid in the next 5 years, 10 years and more. But keeping the vaxports up-to-date will be like hitting a moving target in a 4-dimentional space. The dominant virus variants will change, new vaccines will be released in response, immunity afforded by the previous vaccinations will fade as the time passes, etc.

When the governments try to manage all of that, they will surely mess up on more than a few occassions. People who are vaccinated in the medical sense, will find themselves marked unvaccinated in the administrative system and unable to access the services. Needless to say, they will get annoyed and will start asking why are we having this stupid system, that doesn’t even prevent the covid cases from happening (the virus is becoming endemic).

#154 Bob Dogo on 09.13.21 at 1:29 am

Conservative BS, as usual, flowing from a conservative confidence man. A sociopath in a suite.

When AAPL has a P/E ratio of 30, it is considered a startup with tremendous growth opportunities. We will need another planet of 7 billion debtors to accomplish that growth rate.

Expect massive inflation created by central banker financial terrorists. The middle class is becoming extinct as we all embrace a tiny home mentality leading to the worlds first trillionare .

Canadians are stupid.

#155 Dmitry on 09.13.21 at 3:17 am

Societal collapse? Another drama queen. – Garth

Yes, societal collapse. Which is already here and is accelerating. You either are in denial or disingenuous. Canadians used to riot when Canucks lost a game. Now people hit the streets because majority of population got brainwashed into confused submission and are being openly abused. Canadian society has lost its dignity and tolerance which defined its identity. Canadians are ashamed of their country and intolerant of fellow citizens. These amazing and shocking developments took place in less than two years. Call me what you want but this is not society that I can recognize as Canadian. And when it comes to the state of Canadian democracy, apparently all is well because Canadians are destined to get what they deserve, thanks to views like yours Garth. You are making contribution to that societal collapse, knowingly or not.

#156 Bankrupting Landlords = Good for the Economy on 09.13.21 at 4:15 am

I have question: If cases continue to spike after a vaccine passport/mandate is implemented, then what?

#157 Steven Rowlandson on 09.13.21 at 6:48 am

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#158 UCC on 09.13.21 at 7:52 am

#155 Bankrupting Landlords = Good for the Economy on 09.13.21 at 4:15 am
I have question: If cases continue to spike after a vaccine passport/mandate is implemented, then what?

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Then the the politicos start thinning the social activities. (Because that is the only way to stop covid.) Your passports will dynamically change between colors. You will only be allowed social activities when the color of your passport is the color posted at the event/restaurant/gym. Oh boy, TurnerNation is right……

#159 Phylis on 09.13.21 at 8:10 am

So if Justin’s minority is less than or the same as the current one, does it not preclude that he will have to immediately call another election, since his dysfunctional claim with not have changed?

#160 Dharma Bum on 09.13.21 at 8:28 am

Hey, all you anti vax nutjobs: Like freedom? Guess what. You ain’t gonna have any unless you get the vaccine, dummies.
Get vaxxed or get axed!
Buh – bye.

#161 The West on 09.13.21 at 8:33 am

Morning All,

One week until the (s)election.

Had to think about this one overnight Garth. What you are seeing happen (especially here in ‘Berta) is a protest vote. O’Toole no longer represents real conservative values. His platform is the Liberal platform in 2015. Rather than talk about how Mad Max is destroying the Conservative Party and he’s “dangerous to the those who want to remove T2” why not shift the conversation to how the Red and Blue parties have let everyone down.

This is worth serious consideration. Canadians, more than you realize, are completely fed up with all the politicians and rightfully so. The People are no longer represented and there is FINALLY a noticeable number of plebs who are beginning to take notice.

Blame Mad Max all you want, blame the “anti-vaxxxers”, sure, blame anyone you want…..but there is a whiff of revolution in the air, no? The Overton Window in Canada no longer represents the interests of the Commoners and has become a side game run by those at the top to be dictated down. The thin veil of “democracy” is withering in the face of economic mismanagement, champagne socialism and an authoritarian opportunity granted by COVID. Even amongst those who have complied with a mandatory vaxxx (I am one of them) do not want the passport and do not want the Australian Concentration (mmmm, I mean “Quarantine”) Camps.

This Laurentian Establishment that owns this country has run it off the rails. Mad Max is riding a wave – he has tapped into the vortex of seething discontent and pessimism of the general plebes.

His power will only grow in the coming years as more “gravel rebellions” are in the cards.

It is delightful, but all together too late, that the Canadian population of higher understanding is beginning to awake from their slumber. Unfortunately, it is too late.

#162 facts on 09.13.21 at 8:40 am

This blog proves best how fast “conservatives” abandon support for the conservative principle of individual’s rights.

Even rights already afforded by the constitution and laws, like Bill S-201, the act to prohibit and prevent genetic discrimination.

They cowardly jumped on Trudeau’s bandwagon of collectivist ideology as soon as their spine was tested.

There is no way to cast a vote for Trudeau-Conservatives.

Your ‘rights’ do not include the right to extend a pandemic through selfishness. Canadian patriots are socially responsible with a firm moral compass and the courage to do the right thing. That’s what ‘spine’ is all about – not wilting in the face of a challenge.- Garth

#163 TurnerNation on 09.13.21 at 8:48 am

What part of permanent ‘State of Emergency’ and rolling Economic and Social Lockdowns is not obvious by now?

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2021/09/12/le-plq-demande-davantage-de-mesures-contre-la-covid-19
The PLQ calls for the extension of the health emergency
“To have mandatory vaccination of all these groups, we need some form of state of emergency,” explains André Fortin, House Leader for the Quebec Liberal Party.”

— The New System is devestaing the children.

.No sports, no clubs, no talking during lunch and other joys of COVID schooling (nypost.com)

.India’s schoolchildren were devastated by lockdowns and online classes (qz.com)

.Crisis in Philippines as millions of children face second year of remote schooling (theguardian.com)

.Northern California school district allows elementary students exactly 14 minutes to eat lunch (abc7news.com)


— Remember this is not over. It is set to run until 2025. There’s no escape.

.Singapore reaches 80 percent double vaccination rate but life is not returning to normal (abc.net.au)

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A possible end goal. I’m so glad these guys care about my health. Swell bunch. Into the blockchain we will go.

https://commonpass.org/
The Commons Project, The World Economic Forum and a broad coalition of public and private partners are collaborating to launch CommonPass, a trusted, globally-interoperable platform for people to document their COVID-19 status (health declarations / PCR tests / vaccinations) to satisfy country entry requirements, while protecting their health data privacy.

#164 Axel Rhodes on 09.13.21 at 8:57 am

If Direct Foreign Investment increased 232% YTD and Canada increased the measure Net Zero, what does that say? It says that no foreign money is being taxed to subsidize our schools, industry, climate change aspirations. Not a penny.

If even Canada’s largest banks are exiting new investment in Canada , ” the lack of opportunity” quoted. what does that say? Who’s in charge? Our banks are and have always been the most loyal businesses in the land. What’s being done about the Death Spiral in our economy?

‘Mr Market’, are the smartest guys in any room guiding the ‘smart money’, globally. They choose to avoid Canada. Why? They aren’t the multilateralist chumps with an agenda. That level money has no political affiliation, no ideology. So why is Canada an investment pariah 6 years in the making? ‘Who’s on first’? It ain’t Harper.

Without industry where will the revenue come from. Free daycare isn’t free. From where I sit, the only deep pool of untapped accessible equity left is your house. The cupboards are bare otherwise. It seems to me that the free daycare etc is going to cost you your life savings. Nothing’s free after all .

Not a political word. But how can you justify the denial of this country’s looming assured future bankruptcy given the current regime in denial?

#165 DonM on 09.13.21 at 9:21 am

If we can do something to save the health care system, then why would we not? This is social responsibility. – Garth

Perhaps we can start with limiting peoples Body Mass Index. If you’re a fat, you get fastport that does not allow you to order anything fast food. Obesity is the leading cause of disease and bed filler in hospitals. But, this is too inconvenient for Canadians.

#166 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.13.21 at 9:32 am

@#165 DonMunchies

“Perhaps we can start with limiting peoples Body Mass Index. If you’re a fat, you get fastport that does not allow you to order anything fast food. Obesity is the leading cause of disease and bed filler in hospitals.”

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True.
Shutting down all fast food chains would probably lower the Obesity index by 40%.
Then ban sodapop, chips, chocolate bars, etc etc etc.
Why stop there?
Then you would have to start selling fridges with time clocks to only open at meal time.

We could call it Partici”Fat”tion and have former athletes give us tips on how not to snack.

#167 NoName on 09.13.21 at 9:54 am

#165 DonM on 09.13.21 at 9:21 am

Perhaps we can start with limiting peoples Body Mass Index. If you’re a fat, you get fastport that does not allow you to order anything fast food. Obesity is the leading cause of disease and bed filler in hospitals. But, this is too inconvenient for Canadians.

Alldo logic is flawed but perhaps we could give it a go.

Considering that i am morbidly obist i am perhaps best what would you call resident expert and sme in comment section, and I would like to applaud you for that FAT PASSPORT.

We could also organize and sumo north, to get us in to sports and on a road out of bad diet.

What you say Donny?

#168 Stone on 09.13.21 at 10:04 am

#156 Bankrupting Landlords = Good for the Economy on 09.13.21 at 4:15 am
I have question: If cases continue to spike after a vaccine passport/mandate is implemented, then what?

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How about googling the following keywords together:

France covid

France implemented a vaccine passport. It’s pretty evident from the graph at the top of that keyword search, it is having the intended effect. Higher vaccination rate and a drop in infected. Congrats to Macron for standing firm.

#169 Quintilian on 09.13.21 at 10:26 am

I can’t understand how Garth can support the Cons, particularly on the con job on housing.

Last time the bubble was about the pop, the Cons brought in the 40-year mortgage.

Now they are at it again, with extended amortization periods, longer renewal terms, and lower interest rates.

Is it dishonesty, or lack of knowledge?
How would more demand inducements improve affordability?

The cons are frauds just like the other parties, but have less heart.

Maybe you should learn to Google better. The 40-year ams were briefly in place and I was the only Conservative MP at the time to oppose them. But they did not cause the current mess. As for the Tory plans now, there is no suggestion amortizations be longer (that’s the NDP) nor interest rates lower/longer. O’Toole is promoting locked-in rates for up to seven years, which is likely to have no effect on prices. Compared to the Liberal plan of cranking up demand, it seems more responsible. But nobody with a chance of winning this election is addressing the fundamental causes. As I have detailed. – Garth

#170 Prince Polo on 09.13.21 at 10:27 am

Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole was asked at a campaign stop in Vancouver on Sunday whether he would lift cabinet confidences if his party forms the government so the Mounties can properly investigate the SNC-Lavalin matter.

“The answer is yes,” he said. “One of the very disappointing things with Mr. Trudeau is that there has been special access for friends and people close to the Prime Minister and those around him. You should not be able to use your influence to lobby your way out of criminal prosecution.”

In her memoirs, ‘Indian’ in the Cabinet: Speaking Truth to Power, Ms. Wilson-Raybould recounts detailed private conversations with Mr. Trudeau in the final days before her resignation from cabinet, as well as months of intense lobbying by senior advisers in the Prime Minister’s Office to drop the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin.

Ms. Wilson-Raybould would not interfere in the prosecution and was demoted to Veterans Affairs minister. She and fellow cabinet minister Jane Philpott later resigned from cabinet after the The Globe exposed the pressure campaign. The scandal also led to the resignations of Mr. Trudeau’s top adviser, Gerald Butts, and Privy Council clerk Michael Wernick, the top civil servant.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-jody-wilson-raybould-urges-justin-trudeau-to-let-rcmp-probe-possible/

#171 Planetgoofy on 09.13.21 at 10:30 am

#40 Mister Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on 09.12.21 at 1:14 pm
Congraultions Mister Prime Minister!

Onward to 338!
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Must be good coolaide or ya just suck at math?

Anywho back at the ranch where we have to balance the books make ends meet pay CRA their fair share or face fines and or go to jail.

The pile of peeps I know voted for Mr Tool….
Their good at math too.

PS Trudeau belongs in the Wackadoodle crew.

#172 Calgary Rip Off on 09.13.21 at 10:33 am

@#25:

Your symptoms described remind me of the sickness I got after a nurse I work with came back to work and infected my workplace: Balance issues for over 6 months in 2016, and my bloodpressure was off, I thought my heart was affected due to the blood pressure changes. Some docs I work with had severe tinnitus. It is rumoured that Covid 19 was around far before its official release date. Whatever that sickness was I got from SE Asia in 2016 it was awful. I used vertigo drills and blindfolded drills to overcome the balance issues. How to stop Covid long haul? Take lots of vitamin D3 every day 5000-10,000 units daily, a mult, vitamin C, and cold showers at least once a day.

On vaccine mandates in Alberta: Not according to Jason Kenney. Hence the current ICU problems. Data supports both safety and efficacy of vaccines. If people are worried about vaccine clots, talk to the family doctor. Unlike the USA, at least in Canada patients wont be bankrupt due to an ICU stay(if uninsured in the USA). Alberta remains a hotspot for Covid 19 in Canada.
Ivermectin will not be used in Canadian ICUs. Patients dont tell doctors what drugs they use in ICUs. Best to stay out of the ICU as hospitals are dirty. Vaccine x 2, high vitamin D3 and vitamin C daily. Masks. Cold showers. Sleep. Good nutrition. Exercise.
For antivaxxers realize that one drive to work is likely more risky than one jab from a vaccine.

The tale of an ICU from Alcatrazz(1983) featuring Yngwie J. Malmsteen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpk5CGQhHD0

#173 Get vaxxed or get axed on 09.13.21 at 10:35 am

@#141 McSteve on 09.12.21 at 9:51 pm
Ontario minor hockey will soon ban everyone who is unvaxinated and over the age of 12 from entering facilities. Even to watch.

good.

#174 Trojan House on 09.13.21 at 10:43 am

“If we can do something to save the health care system, then why would we not? This is social responsibility. – Garth”

Why do WE need to save the healthcare system??? The problem with the healthcare system is it’s obvious years of mismanagement by politicians with agendas and public health bureaucrats. Perhaps it’s also obvious that a solely publicly funded healthcare system is not sustainable in the long run. Healthcare is the single biggest expense in every provincial budget, not to mention the federal transfer of payments in which a large chunk goes to fund healthcare.

Healthcare is there to save us and not the other way around. If it can’t, then there are larger issues at play here and we need to look at fundamentally changing the way it is delivered because as it stands right now, the way it’s being delivered is obviously not sustainable.

Not with selfish anti-vaxers like you stressing it. Try being part of the solution for a change. – Garth

#175 George S on 09.13.21 at 10:47 am

In any Canadian election there are two main political parties and several fringe parties. The two main parties have a large immovable base support that rarely changes. In order to win an election each of the parties has to get additional support from some of the fringe parties or fringe groups.
In this election the CPC seems to be trying to attract support from more conservative Liberal voters who were formerly not supporting the CPC when its policies were getting too far right and too socially conservative.
By not supporting the right wing fringe parties the CPC is gambling that by getting back to its Progressive Conservative roots they may be able to form a more centrist government for Canada.
Garth, I like your comment about Mulroney and the GST. I think that politicians should be willing to commit “political suicide” for the good of the country and that is basically what he did. The Liberals clearly approved of the GST and Canada benefited in the following years.

As for all the vaccine blather, it would have been so easy to get 95%+ of the country vaccinated if everyone had a sense of social responsibility rather than individual “freedom”, whatever that is. People don’t know what “freedom” is. Vaccine passports are necessary because a significant portion of the population are following the advice of alt right talk show hosts instead of public health professionals and they need to be protected from themselves.
The world has always had “vaccine passports”, ever since vaccines were invented. If you didn’t have proof of vaccination along with your passport you would not be allowed into many countries.

Years ago before social media allowed people with wildly crazy views to reinforce and congratulate people on being geniuses you just had people wandering the streets wearing capes with “Please Let Me Be Free” in big letters on the back. Or signs proclaiming the end of the world. Now we have to put up with them contaminating useful blog comment sections.

#176 Do we have all the facts on 09.13.21 at 10:50 am

In May 2021 the Bank of Canada revised the way the CPI would be calculated by excluding eight of the most volatile components including food, energy and indirect tax increases. The objective was to identify ‘core’ inflation by excluding components that have been vulnerable to considerable price fluctuations in the past. This seems equivalent to adjusting a smoke detector to avoid detecting smoke caused by a fire.

The easiest way for the Bank of a Canada to keep inflation within their target range and to justify their decision not to increase the overnight interest rate was to delete eight components impacted by substantial inflation when calculating the CPI.

This latest tinkering has just a whiff of mendacity and this citizen respectfully requests the Bank of Canada provide Canadian citizens with the CPI calculated under previous methodologies for comparison.

We deserve information that might lead policies and legislation that improves our quality of life.

#177 Science! on 09.13.21 at 10:50 am

#168 Stone

How about googling the following keywords together:

France covid

France implemented a vaccine passport. It’s pretty evident from the graph at the top of that keyword search, it is having the intended effect. Higher vaccination rate and a drop in infected. Congrats to Macron for standing firm.

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With all due respect, this is simplistic thinking and association that is not scientifically proven in any way.
To be clear, I’m not saying what you say is not true. But what I’m also saying is that there is no proof that what you say is true, looking at the claim purely scientifically and just applying some of the things I do know about France.

French wave starts a solid month before the Canadian wave for one. It ramps up way faster too. It starts crashing as of start of August – typically a month where the French go away on vacation, who maybe less incline to do tests on their vacation for example. It could have burned out in the same manner previous wave burned out naturally before France was vaccinated. Waves tend to last that 8-10 week period usually.

Some key data points that immediately stand out in my mind are:
France, at 2x the population of Canada yet France saw 5x the cases of Canada in the wave. Hmmm….
Valid question here is – would this much much larger ratio of cases cause the virus wave to burn out faster? Certainly such gap in ratio of cases to population cannot be ignored.

I seem to also recall significant and sustained protests against this Vaccine Passport in France. Wouldn’t that be an opportunity for spread? Also, wouldn’t these protesting people be mostly non-vaccinated? Why would these spreader events of mostly unvaccinated not impact the French death rate during this period to spike to previous levels?

These questions would need some data scrubbing. Maybe more active and healthy people are the ones protesting? Younger? Thus in much lesser age bracket for death chances? We just don’t know.

What I’m getting at is, there are many questions that could be asked of the French wave pattern.

To simply credit vaccine passport for the wave burning out is premature and likely to be shown as wrong conclusion upon scientific method review of the question of why it burned out. While vaccine passport could be put in the analysis to be addressed, it would hardly rank it as one of the top 5 likely reasons.

#178 Damifino on 09.13.21 at 10:50 am

#161 The West

Canadians, more than you realize, are completely fed up with all the politicians and rightfully so.
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Not me. There’s only one I’m fed up with and he really needs to be gone. Remember, this is Canadian federal politics we’re talking here. It must be kept tres simple: Trudeau OUT, O’Toole IN. Now go and vote.

Then give it four years and see how that goes. Anything else is too challenging for the electorate to process and would form the basis of yet another unworkable mess.

Realistically though, I expect an unworkable mess.

#179 Dmitry on 09.13.21 at 10:52 am

@ #85 The joy of steerage

“Can we send you back?”

Yes, send all who has different opinion “back” (whatever that means).

Instead enjoy these very compliant refugees from Afghanistan.
I’m sure they will not mind free vaccine (and anything else free).
What is they refuse vaccination because it’s against their religion?
No problem – send them back to Afghanistan in the hands of Taliban, what’s the big deal.

#180 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.13.21 at 10:54 am

#156 Bankrupting Landlords = Good for the Economy on 09.13.21 at 4:15 am
I have question: If cases continue to spike after a vaccine passport/mandate is implemented, then what?
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Well, I was not here when they introduced drivers licences, but my educated guess is, the accidents went down.

#181 VladTor on 09.13.21 at 10:56 am

to #165 DonM on 09.13.21 at 9:21 am

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BMI is not correct, b’s:

…It was invented in the 1840s, before calculators, when a formula had to be very simple to be usable.

I’m using NEW BMI.

Read here about:

https://people.maths.ox.ac.uk/trefethen/bmi.html

#182 Prince Polo on 09.13.21 at 10:58 am

I think the problem isn’t too much risk, it is too little. Even with pandemics, we have never lived with so little risk. Wage risk, or wage volatility, has been trending down for everyone but the highest earners. We don’t move, change jobs, or start new businesses enough – and that means more stable, predictable wages. That may sound good, but it is not surprising wages have stagnated, as assets don’t grow as fast when you don’t take risk. Wage stagnation is the cost of more predictability.

The current budget doubles down on removing risk. It is heavy on guarantees: universal benefits and guaranteed jobs. These kinds of benefits will be expensive and counterproductive, because guarantees reduce risk-taking, while insurance encourages it. Insurance only pays off when an adverse event happens; guarantees pay off no matter what. Insurance is not only cheaper, it is more efficient. Insurance has also normally been the character of our welfare state. This sounds like an esoteric distinction, but it is important. It’s like the difference between offering everyone a bond that pays 2% a year or a put option on the S&P 500 and access to an index fund. Which one would make people richer?

https://allisonschrager.substack.com/p/known-unknowns-c2c

#183 Planetgoofy on 09.13.21 at 11:05 am

#174 Trojan House on 09.13.21 at 10:43 am

My buddies vaxxed now in the hospital with the D so idont know what to make of it?

Anyway the health care systems been imploding fir years by design. The Bugs just giving it a boost.
Of the 11 riches nations in the world we are ranked #10 heading to #13 im sure.
But if your a politician or someone else important theres a secret back door where your taken care of immediately.
I aint kidding…
Its a 2 teir system…one for the haves and one for the have nots. Or is it Knots?

#184 Gordon Gekko on 09.13.21 at 11:07 am

#174 Trojan House

What I would say to you is this: I am starting to wonder if there is real desire in Canada to maintain the health care system as a example to others.

For example, why wouldn’t Canada be unified in their drug purchases to Big Pharma, where their collective buying power would give them leverage to negotiate terms and pricing?

If I was nothing but a Jr. person, I would push for this to realize a revenue savings for the government and efficiency country wide. Yet this is not done, leaving the leverage in the hands of Big Pharma while the politicians bobble along wasting tax revenue that would be invested back into improving the system.

Over $400B spent in this Pandemic by our PM, yet none of it was invested in any meaningful way into hospital infrastructure for the long term with lasting benefits it appears. Correct me if I’m wrong here.

To be perfectly honest with you, with the biggest growth in the 65+ population, it has crossed my mind that during the pandemic the denial of services and preventative medical efforts will likely reduce the life of many many thousands of older individuals, who are already the most impacted group. And with that, is removal of significant costs from the underfunded system. Convenient.

Of course it all comes down to squaring what’s right and good with what is profitable.

On the other hand, then this happens – and the answer to right and good vs. profit becomes painfully clear.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html

#185 RyYYZ on 09.13.21 at 11:17 am

#33 Lt. Commander Data on 09.12.21 at 12:52 pm
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations

15% of ICU double vaccinated and increasing.
85% of ICU NOT vaccinated
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So, ~75% is fully vaxxed and make up 15% of ICU cases.
Meanwhile, ~25% make up 85% of ICU cases.
Which by my calculations means that the unvaxxed are ~17 times more likely to end up in the ICU.

Sounds like a damn good argument for getting the shot.

#186 Barb on 09.13.21 at 11:18 am

Lunch planned in a nice restaurant today with friends.
Will be happy to show my vaccine passport at the door.

#187 Planetgoofy on 09.13.21 at 11:24 am

That said…..everything is savable but it ot wothout major pain.
Healthcare and all. The major dough goes to the last couple years in your life on the health care front.
We have a massive aging demografic.
When you look at pensions healthcare and all the other goverment promises / liabilities without them making more (promises that won’t be kept)!
We are toast….
Maybe lets go with the Logans Run solution lol? Just kidding my neighbours 72 and her mother 96…their Awsome peeps.
Or….how a out a responisible gov that can do math4? No?
Or should we continue on with this cooked up ponzi scheme?
Thats what hopfully what we are voting on.

#188 Vote for yourself on 09.13.21 at 12:07 pm

#134 S.Bby on 09.12.21 at 8:39 pm
I’m voting for the PPC because I know Jasmeet will win in my riding anyways so I may as well vote for the guy I like.
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I’m voting for the PPC because I know Trudeau will win in my riding anyways so I may as well vote for the guy I like.

#189 Planetgoofy on 09.13.21 at 12:11 pm

#155 Dmitry on 09.13.21 at 3:17 am
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If you got a B&D portfolio your good! Thats sarcasm.
Actually I’m with you….. peeps are losing this Sh$t globally. The reasons are very obvious. I could write a book but the short version is “The Government”
Denial of what is happening is foolish.
Live your life accordingly.

Promise’s that have been made by these idiots wont be kept. Its a mathematical certainty. And thats the good country’s. The others have oppressive govs and or dictators.
Ya Biden will fix it lol. He’s a failure right out of the gate. That was our last best hope…why? Because it WAS the shining light of Democracy of a freedom of the free world.
If it goes we all go….we are 10% of the states and we have no military. Some ugly country’s have a lot of hardware. Nothings changed through out history.
Way too much white wash paint here.
I say grow up and be vigilant.

#190 James on 09.13.21 at 12:16 pm

Once again – Vaxports are designed to boost the ranks of the inoculated by removing social privileges for the unvaccinated. Then we are all safer. Simple. – Garth
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Makes perfect sense to me!
it is akin to the notion that if you want to drive you need a license. Or on the other hand if you want to be a doctor then you need a degree in whatever specialty you are in. Now we wouldn’t want people who don’t know how to drive on the road or doctors treating you when they are not really trained and educated in their profession. Other wise we could end up with a great number of innocent people dying needlessly, correct? Yep perfect sense, so what is wrong with these anti-vaxers don’t they want to drive?

#191 Lt. Commander Data on 09.13.21 at 12:29 pm

#185 RyYYZ
#33 Lt. Commander Data on 09.12.21 at 12:52 pm
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations

15% of ICU double vaccinated and increasing.
85% of ICU NOT vaccinated
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So, ~75% is fully vaxxed and make up 15% of ICU cases.
Meanwhile, ~25% make up 85% of ICU cases.
Which by my calculations means that the unvaxxed are ~17 times more likely to end up in the ICU.

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Sounds like a damn good argument for getting the shot.

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Indeed. Especially those in the 65 plus age group and in risk groups like obese and diabetic. This was never in dispute.

However, and this is important to keep in mind, the growing ICU cases and breakthrough cases clearly indicate that the vaccinated should not be thinking they ware wearing a cloak of invincibility, especially if in risk groups.

Obesity continues to play a big role in ICU admissions, yet this key point is not being highlighted. Healthy living pays dividends.

Humans should remember many studies have now confirmed, vaccinated are just as likely to spread and carry same level of viral load in breakthrough infections as unvaccinated. It clearly means that vaccinated can and do spread the virus.

Armed with vaccine passport that grant these vaccinated individuals increased mobility, including internationally, as I noted, scientifically and statistically it will be the vaccinated who spread the new variants around the world, without doubt. Variants that are already confirmed to exist, complete with studies of variants, which show complete resistance to immunity afforded by current vaccines.

With this in mind, should the solution to the problem be adjusted? Or is humanity simply delaying the inevitable – that they will have to face the SARS-CoV2, likely on a number of occasions with various variants, just as they face the various common colds of the same beta coronavirus family?

#192 Jesse on 09.13.21 at 12:31 pm

#53 Quintilian on 09.12.21 at 2:02 pm
Although a Liberal, I will not be voting Liberal this time.

Disappointed with the early election call. And also, because the macro landscape needs some radical left leaning policies to gain some badly needed force to bring back some equilibrium needed for a mixed economy to function more equitably.

The specuvestors, and the banksters, have become too rich, too fat, too insensitive, too greedy. The misallocations in the economy are at levels that are overcrowding real productive enterprise.

The status quo is breeding so much inequalities, the wealth gap is fast becoming a gulf. We are in danger of loosing Canada. We need to veer back to some fairness. There is real anger out there- the kind of anger that propelled Trump into power- Treacherous.

More seats for the NDP and Greens, at the expense of a Liberals, with a Liberal minority, would give Canada the best chance to Make Canada Great Again.
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Thanks to T2, Canada now has the (2nd) most debt in the industrialized world, only behind Japan (and they haven’t had any appreciable growth since their crash during the late 80s/early 90s). The IMF and World Bank have warned Canada could lose it’s AAA credit rating if it doesn’t start to address it’s out of control debt. BC has already lost it’s AAA credit rating. The last thing we need is more freebies and handouts, we need to address our debt… unless you want to see bread cost $500. Your decision Canada.

#193 Dean on 09.13.21 at 12:39 pm

#190 James

Excellent analogy James.

Let us not forget that EVERYONE who’s on the road is an excellent driver, even if they have a license to drive, right?

Just like everyone who is vaccinated with a vaccine passport cannot POSSIBLY catch Covid, or spread it, or move new more dangerous vaccine-resistant variants that already exist from one geography to another.

And of course even though the science is perfectly clear on these points already, and so is the data, we’re going to be in denial and we’re going to ignore it, because it is inconvenient to do otherwise.

This is what being an adult in the age of Social Media is all about after all.

#194 Quintilian on 09.13.21 at 12:39 pm

“But nobody with a chance of winning this election is addressing the fundamental causes. As I have detailed. – Garth”

No truer words can be said using polite language.

I say:
Conservatives, Liberal, NDP are cons and frauds; the only difference is in gradations.

#195 Dragonfly 58 on 09.13.21 at 12:41 pm

Nearly any human. organization has empire builders , shirkers, opportunists , and other less than optimum members. Government organizations and the private sector as well. So things like Health Care will always see a certain amount of ” waste “.
Wife is nearing the end of her 35 year career in Health Care. She has been Nursing Supervisor for about the last 10. Says the dedication of the newer Nurses is becoming a quite variable quantity compared to years and decades past. She entered the profession during the AIDS era, a very difficult time to be a Nurse in the Lower Mainland. The ones that were not extremely dedicated soon found other careers. She stuck to it, despite the mental toll. But the Younger Generation appears all to often to be less than fully dedicated to the Profession. Way too much time on phone and other distractions , plus a less than in the past engagement. Not all by any means , but a lot more than in the past.
What happened to the work ethic of younger Canadians over the last decade ? If even Nurses suffer from this , just think of what is going on at less intense workplaces.

#196 Phylis on 09.13.21 at 12:52 pm

#176 Do we have all the facts on 09.13.21 at 10:50 am
In May 2021 the Bank of Canada revised the way the CPI would be calculated by excluding eight of the most volatile components including food, energy and indirect tax increases. The objective was to identify ‘core’ inflation by excluding components that have been vulnerable to considerable price fluctuations in the past. This seems equivalent to adjusting a smoke detector to avoid detecting smoke caused by a fire.

The easiest way for the Bank of a Canada to keep inflation within their target range and to justify their decision not to increase the overnight interest rate was to delete eight components impacted by substantial inflation when calculating the CPI.

This latest tinkering has just a whiff of mendacity and this citizen respectfully requests the Bank of Canada provide Canadian citizens with the CPI calculated under previous methodologies for comparison.

We deserve information that might lead policies and legislation that improves our quality of life.
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Ok, nice. If the metric has changed, one would expect the target rate to also change, otherwise someone is tinkering with the metre stick to achieve a target. So has the BoC changed it’s target, say to 1.9%?

#197 Planetgoofy on 09.13.21 at 12:54 pm

#190 James on 09.13.21 at 12:16 pm

Mr James
Do you actually think the powers that be care about people dieing?
Thats a joke….for one way less pensions that they do t have to pay out.

Decades of visions on the telly tube of starving people in other countries.
Dictators killing their people.
Genocide.
And lets add war? Lots dead there
Why would they try to create nation states. Do the math there.

If you actully stop going into space blowing money on was im talking the last 50 years.
Everyone could have a home….everywhere. Theres enough food.
These guys when it gets down to brass tax….dont give a rats ass.
If you believe any of them your a chump.
Some are just less worse than others.

The last guy you trust is a guy in a suite and tie.
Take it from me.

#198 IHCTD9 on 09.13.21 at 12:57 pm

I plan on voting O’Toole, then going home and skipping politics for a while. Cons won’t get a majority, so Ottawa will be a noisy Hen House for years to come with nothing getting done.

I going to keep my head down, maybe get into a truck project or gear up for great lakes salmon fishing and try that out. Might become a new hobby with any luck.

I’ll eventually pop my head up and see what improvements our latest band of merry peoplekind in Ottawa have managed to effect since I last checked. My bet is it’ll be little to nothing.

C’est la vie, I’ll just make sure my net tax remittances are a joke, and concentrate on other things till someone shows up that is willing to do the unpopular – but necessary things.

#199 facts on 09.13.21 at 1:05 pm

Your ‘rights’ do not include the right to extend a pandemic through selfishness. Canadian patriots are socially responsible with a firm moral compass and the courage to do the right thing. That’s what ‘spine’ is all about – not wilting in the face of a challenge.- Garth

Your self-declared “socially responsible with a firm moral compass and the courage to do the right thing” rhetoric does not override the constitutional and legal RIGHTS (yes, not your also self-declared ‘rights’) – like Bill S-201.

Spine is not wilting to the pressure to call these rights ‘rights’ in the face of challenge.

Not that Trudeau-Conservatives have any moral compass for this, as demonstrated on this blog.

Just go and get the shot. Sheesh. – Garth

#200 Papiere bitte on 09.13.21 at 1:06 pm

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#201 Macron le fou - google it on 09.13.21 at 1:11 pm

Not with selfish anti-vaxers like you stressing it. Try being part of the solution for a change. – Garth

Why the F…ck do I pay taxes for?? To save corrupt govts that are purposefully killing old people and sick people by delaying And denying them medical treatment in the name of COVID religion ???? And listening to righteous nincompoops that shout that they want unvaccinated to lose their rights for A virus with 0.26% IFR..

Get real dude..GIVE ME A BREAK

#202 Yuus bin Haad on 09.13.21 at 1:33 pm

Maybe in those ridings where there’s a possibility of a split, rather than blaming it on the PPC, the CPC should campaign differently.

#203 Hobo Joe on 09.13.21 at 5:56 pm

Perhaps the PPC would compel people that distrust the legacy parties and don’t normally vote to come out and vote. That wouldn’t really be splitting the vote… just new, untapped pool of voters

#204 The Purple Wave on 09.13.21 at 6:50 pm

I just donated $200 to the PPC and am proud of it.
I am not an anti vaxer but the rest of their platform is exactly correct.

#205 C2UrBack on 09.14.21 at 6:14 am

#127 The joy of steerage on 09.12.21 at 7:45 pm

………..
A basic core value indeed…. breathing with your testicles…. the PPC whack a doodles strike again…… incoming Minister of Health I presume…..

https://thepostmillennial.com/ppc-candidate-calls-himself-a-semen-retention-soldier-claims-he-can-breathe-through-his-testicles
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– Aced JT’s drama class?

#206 vanislewally on 09.14.21 at 5:26 pm

i think you missed #111.. at least a couple of assertions (“wuhan flu, vaccine microchips”) that make the blog look qanon-like eh.. keep up the good work, cheers

In there for comic relief. – Garth

#207 Scott on 09.14.21 at 8:14 pm

@110 Damifino

That’s your opinion. Talk to some of the mad Max folks (there are plenty on this blog) and they will have their justification why their vote is noble and necessary.

My vote for NDP is in large part because they’re the only party that has said they will change our voting system and people will no longer have deal with this idiotic “strategic voting” system we have. People will be able to vote for whoever they please and no one will be able to whine about “it’s a waste of a vote/you’re enabling _____ to get elected, they’re never be a real party, etc…)