Oh well

Day one. Ooops.

Conservative leader Erin O’Toole opposes mandatory vaxing of federal employees and travelers. Instead, he says, people wanting to board a train or airplane should be rapid-tested for Covid. And, ‘my body, my choice’ should be the credo for all of the civil servants plus people in industries regulated by the feds.

As the Delta thing spreads, infections rise, openings are walked back in Alberta and Ontario, and six million people have yet to be jabbed, it’s a curious position to take. Polling shows 60% of Canadians want a vaccine passport, which is where Trudeau’s clearly headed (like Quebec, NS and BC, soon). Business groups want a strongarm government when it comes to inoculation. The bulk of the population understands (a) anti-vaxers are anti-social, (b) the pandemic will go on and on and on until the herd has immunity and (c) jobs, economic activity and recovery depend on one thing. Mass vaccination. If the feds don’t take a lead on this, nobody will.

The Cons are caught in a trap between doing what’s pragmatic for the nation and the economy, and catering to the fears of its rural, socon, rightist and western base. As a guy with a deep blue background of conservativism it pains me to watch. Especially when we can sniff what’s coming if the Liberals are reelected.

So let’s leave the vax quagmire and try to answer the question of WWCD?

And what will Chrystia do?

Lots. A Liberal win on September 20th will be followed by a Throne Speech in October, an economic statement (likely in November) and a budget early in 2022. If it’s a minority, the NDP will support the Libs and never trigger a non-confidence vote (financing another election soon would be impossible for that party) and we’ll get more of the same. If a majority, watch out.

This blog yesterday referenced an opinion piece on Bloomberg about the possible taxation of TFSAs and other sacred cows. How many bovines will be slaughtered, or at least maimed? Can we all agree that after spending $354 billion more than it had last year the federal government has no option but to raise revenues? What are reasonable expectations? Let’s count the ways Chrystia the Impaler may stick it to you.

A Covid tax
It won’t be called that, but a surcharge of some kind is a strong contender. The fairest way would be to increase the HST/GST by a point or two for a couple of years. But it may just take the form of a ‘temporary’ added levy on high income-earners, larger corporations or family wealth. Hooking a tax directly to a single purpose (the virus) would be abnormal. But these days, what isn’t?

TFSA account limit
Currently you can run a TFSA as high as you want, and many have turned the allowable $75,500 into a few hundred grand. In a decade or two some people will have over a million in there. Those accounts can then turn out six or seven thousand a month in retirement income and still allow full CPP and OAS benefits to be collected, while RRSPs continue to grow tax-free until someone hits their early seventies.

Well, Mr. Trudeau has already proven he dislikes the TFSA. He gutted the annual contribution after his 2015 election, and it might happen again. That $6,000 a year could scale back and the feds might cap the taxless growth limit of an account.

New uber tax bracket
Today most 1%ers (in terms of income) face a 54% marginal rate. Liberals brought in a new tax bracket (over $225,000/year) meant to finance a small tax cut for middle-class families. It didn’t come close to paying for the reduction, so the difference has been added to the deficit. The funny thing about taking more than half of what people earn is that they’re motivated to find ways of avoiding the tax. Nonetheless, there’s talk of yet another bracket being created for those earning over $400,000. Of course, there are only about 30,000 people in that boat, so this would be pure symbolism.

Capital gains inclusion rate.
Yeah, this old chestnut. Accountants were convinced Bill Morneau would up it to 65%, maybe even 75%, but he got spooked when his whack-small-business agenda was shelved in the first T2 mandate. It’s back now. Instead of getting to keep half of a gain free of tax, this could drop it to a quarter. Every investor trying to look after their own future needs would be affected. But, as you now know, capitalism is bad.

RRSP contribution room nipped
There is no tax shelter favouring high-income earners like the RRSP. The more money you make and the greater your marginal tax rate, the fatter the benefit from making a contribution. The wealthy can plop in $26,000 and cut their tax bill by about half that amount. So, will the Libs pare this back from 18% of earned income, arguing that as the CPP is enhanced there’s a lesser need for private savings? Will there be a moratorium on accumulated and unused RRSP room? Some think so.

Taxing principal residences
Nah, ain’t happening.

None of the above is for sure. And pure speculation on a pathetic blog shouldn’t divert you from saving or investing as normal. After all, we do not know the outcome of the election. At least, we didn’t yesterday.

About the picture: “Here is my faithful companion, Georgia,” writes Anne.  “My partner found her at seven months (the vet determined this as she was losing her baby teeth) wandering down a back road in Fenelon Falls in January, to certain death if she hadn’t been found.  We paraded her through town, telling people we had found her, but no one stepped up. She turned 15 on July 6th. Here she is with with her sister Molly (who doesn’t like her picture taken, hence sticking her tongue out). Thanks for the advice you give day in and day out.  We sure have been happy since finding you in 2011. We also listened to your views of moving to the east coast.  We have bought property in Parrsboro, NS. “

206 comments ↓

#1 Drill Baby Drill on 08.16.21 at 2:51 pm

I agree with you O’Toole is no prize but I think the electorate has had enough of Justin black face and his smarmy attitude as well as his non performance on almost every issue.

#2 Linley on 08.16.21 at 2:55 pm

who the heck should we even vote for.. all of these choices seem incompetent.

#3 Millennial 1%er on 08.16.21 at 2:55 pm

Young canadian tech professionals are voting with their feet, not with their mail in ballots.

I hear the BBQ is good in Austin Texas. Not that I’d need it since Google would pay for all my lunches (tax free)

Enjoy funding your own retirement!

#4 Woke up this morning... on 08.16.21 at 2:57 pm

Garth,

These passports are a disaster. It’s like PC and Mac. iOS and Android. Lack of standard, compatibility, interoperability. It’s a total mess! Soon, one will have to be a citizen of various passports to have any freedom.

These passports are yet another clear indication of lack of standards, agreed to rules, and science. How could it be so difference everywhere? How could they be a political tool, a barrier, a leverage for negotiation between countries that don’t agree?

You either are vaccinated or you aren’t. Or are you and aren’t you? I hear Chinese for the Olympics in a few months want everyone to be vaccinated with the Chinese vaccine. How does everyone feel about that? Would you sign up for that CoronaVac vaccine as an Olympian? Why not? It’s a Coronavirus vaccine. Quit being such a complainer.

#5 Buffet of Rights on 08.16.21 at 3:04 pm

Trudeau says “I’m pro-choice, women should have right over their bodies” on subject of abortion.

GOOD!

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O’Toole says “I’m pro-vaccine, but Canadians should have right over their bodies”

HOW DARE HE?!

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Funny. Pick your rights at the All-You-Can-Eat Buffet.

You cannot be that thick. – Garth

#6 Rook on 08.16.21 at 3:05 pm

Well, Mr. Trudeau has already proven he dislikes the TFSA. He gutted the annual contribution after his 2015 election, and it might happen again. That $6,000 a year could scale back and the feds might cap the taxless growth limit of an account.

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I remember reading somewhere a few years ago (maybe here, maybe in G&M or NP) that the Feds did a tally and found some ridiculous (at the time) billions of dollars of potential un-taxed revenue in TFSAs. Except the pesky ‘tax-free’ part of the acronym prevented them from getting at it.

Ever since I read that, and the heard rumors about punishing people who use the TFSA as a day-trading account doing more than x trades/month, I’ve had a sneaky suspicion they were coming for the TFSA sooner or later.

As Mr. Trudeau said last election, it’s for the rich and wealthy, not ‘average’ Canadians. So, in the grand tradition of ‘the mob always needs its cut’, why NOT double-dip into TFSAs? Only the money that’s gone INTO the account has been taxed, not the gains! Look at all those juicy capital gains the government could redistribute to ‘Move Canada forward – for everyone!’

“Have you saved? Lived within your means, and avoided debt? Have you grown your savings by investing them prudently, in a slow-and-steady fashion? Well, are you ever doing well for yourself! So, to thank you for doing so well, we’re going to take a bunch of those earnings, to help everyone move forward – together. After all, we know better than you do what to do with your savings.”

On a serious note, I never thought something as simple as ‘being in the black’ would rank me among the wealthier percentile of Canada’s population. It’s kind of mind-boggling that ‘having savings’ might now mark you out for special treatment by the government.

#7 Marcia M on 08.16.21 at 3:09 pm

“Conservative leader Erin O’Toole opposes mandatory vaxing of federal employees and travelers. Instead, he says, people wanting to board a train or airplane should be rapid-tested for Covid.”

Hmm.

So, Erin says travellers should repeatedly get a 10 inch swab rammed up their nose, instead of getting two tiny painless jabs taking barely half a second, spread over two months.

So, in order to cater to low IQ right wing extremists supporting the cons, Erin offers everyone:

A huge, disgusting Q-tip up your nostril, repeatedly.

What a perfect metaphor for what a Conservative government would bring to Canadians!

Forget the Willie Wonka commercial – this imagery would be golden for the Libs!

#8 Nathan Gratton on 08.16.21 at 3:12 pm

The RRSP reduction would be a good change as it is the only one of those suggestions that will go after the rich, the rich being teachers, nurses and anyone else working for the government. All of the other suggestions will only cost the impoverished more, with the increase in food and housing costs the impoverished are already paying for the pandemic. Any increase in the GST will disproportionally impact the poorest groups since all their income is already being spent. Going after the TFSA is poor social policy as it is the best investment vehicle available for the poor.

#9 TurnerNation on 08.16.21 at 3:15 pm

Economic Shutdowns in Australia: But the guys the Hospital Capacity! Let’s build camps, instead. History repeats.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/construction-of-mickleham-quarantine-camp-is-under-way-20210812-p58i50.html
“Construction of Mickleham quarantine camp starts
Construction is under way at Melbourne’s Centre for National Resilience – the unwieldy name given to the new quarantine facility in Mickleham – with the camp set to open by the end of the year.”

.Curfew, playground closures and extended lockdown confirmed in Melbourne (abc.net.au)
.Melbourne Australia (22 cases today) implemented a 9pm curfew + closed outdoor playground/exercise stations (premier.vic.gov.au)

.Paralympics to be held without spectators (bbc.co.uk)

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— Dolce – “Fully”…well did the pharma salesman tell them this? The Science changed.
From St. Louis MO, USA,
Page 7, point #9 – Definitions. “Fully…Additionally, after three months from the last dose, a person is no longer considered to be a Fully Vaccinated Person.”
https://stlcorona.com/sites/default/assets/pdfs/dph-orders/Fourth-Amended-Quarantine-and-Isolation-Order-2021-02-16.PDF

— And what exactly is a “Case”? A time machine test?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/south-africa-firefighters-manitoba-covid-19-cleared-1.6141947?cmp=rss
“South African firefighters in Manitoba who tested positive for COVID-19 cleared for active duty
On Sunday, a government spokesperson said public health officials had advised that those test results “indicated previous infections and not current, active cases.””

— Numbers…numbers…this doesn’t sound balanced.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/cdc-needs-to-start-tracking-all-covid-breakthrough-infections-gottlieb-says.html
“The CDC stopped tracking every breakthrough case in the U.S. on May 1, focusing just on those that result in hospitalization or death, a move physicians and scientists are increasingly criticizing.”

#10 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 3:16 pm

A “canadian passport” that will only be recognized in Canada…..whats the point.
More “feel good” Pablum for the sheeple.

As for Freeland and her user fees/taxes cash grab….

Nothing will surprise me.

These people have no clue how to balance a budget so why would I expect them to be intelligent, fair and equitable when it comes to helping themselves to my hard earned money.

I wonder how many young doctors will just….. leave.

#11 Howard on 08.16.21 at 3:17 pm

Apparently the richest generation in Canadian history (past, present, and likely future) just isn’t rich enough for the Liberals.

More extra payments to rich old people taken from the pockets of poor young people.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/news/2021/08/one-time-payment-for-seniors-news-release.html

#12 Dolce Vita on 08.16.21 at 3:18 pm

Delta may Do in the Libs…

I mean look at the vax rates to yesterday = abysmal:

https://i.imgur.com/0Fw9r1Z.png

Canada is now down to rates since the early days of vaxing. 17.4% of Cdns 12+ yrs old about 6M (5.83M) haven’t received a SINGLE dose.

Delta herd immunity > 80% and < 90%. Per my projections, bang on so far, that should happen about, 2 dose vaxd, +12 yrs old eligible:

80% Sep 9
85% Sep 23
90% Oct 9

Every day those dates slip by a day or two with vax rates slowing. Plenty of vax on hand to get to those numbers. For 90% Canada needs:

59M doses

Recv'd:

63.4M doses

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I don't get the foot dragging now with vaxing in Canada.

If Delta blows up, the Libs will get BLAMED and anyone associated with them.

It's not even under Lib control, they do the supply. Vaxing is by the Provinces & Territories.

…oh well.

Maybe no worries Garth about the WWCD other than return to journalism or not?

Still say the Libs will lose, the Cons will win. 'Dunno why, a gut feel. Above only reason I can think of + Cdns fed up with Covid and all it has wrought.

#13 CHOOSE on 08.16.21 at 3:23 pm

O’Toole wants to give citizens of a free country free choice over health care.

What is on the other side of this scale? Deficits? Taxation? Biggest per capita Covid spending? Ethics probes? WE? SNC? NDA West Point Grey Acadamy?
Aga Khan island vacation? India Trip costumes? Elbowing in Parliament? Saying “thanks for the donation” to Native protestor? General Norman Scandal
Winnipeg Lab – whatever is going on there? Sending our emergency PPE to China as if we were never gonna need it? Not-stopping flights from China?

To be honest with you, I’m surprised others want to step up to try and clean up this mess. Like cleaning up after spring break, only much much worse.

#14 alexinvestor on 08.16.21 at 3:24 pm

Good luck with increasing the sales tax. I would bet that the tax leakage will increase in step. TFSA/RRSP tax changes don’t bring in immediate revenue. Increased capital gains tax might crash the market. The other tax measures don’t matter. What’s left … increased debt and lower currency. That’s one good point about DC plans, you can move everything out of CAD.

#15 SunShowers on 08.16.21 at 3:24 pm

“I’m a firm believer in ‘my body, my choice’, which is why I think I should be able to drink and drive, because I’M choosing to put alcohol in MY body, and drive MY car.”

#16 AO1 on 08.16.21 at 3:24 pm

Bring back Harper!!!

#17 Dr V on 08.16.21 at 3:26 pm

T2 has two ways to sell taxes

1) Temporary (for covid) and
2) Tax the rich, or the appearance of doing so

TFSA? – Only the “rich” maximize this. Look for lifetime contribution limit of $100k or so and no future increases.

Cap gains inclusion? This is more difficult for him as many mid-wealth pensioners use this. So look for an annual or lifetime limit, or a graduated scale on the gain
to penalize the “rich”.

RRSP – contribution stays at 18% and the current max
which gives something like a $155 pa income. Earnings above this amount will receive a tax credit only to that income level – ie taxing the 1% (or the 2 or
5%) some more.

Generally, I expect death by 1000 taxes. Little bits here, there and everywhere.

#18 Howard on 08.16.21 at 3:27 pm

Garth, you said Chrystia would drop the hammer in the budget because, as I recall you stated, along the lines of “the government cannot simply allow all this home equity to go untaxed while people go hungry and live in tents”. She did nothing. Not even a tax increase for capital gains on rental properties.

How many more nothingburgers will it take for you to realize that this government doesn’t care about the deficit because the players will all be long gone by the time the bill comes do? I believe very little of what you’ve listed above will come true. Deficits in the hundreds of billions will continue, with no revenue-boosting measures to mitigate it. It will eventually blow up the economy, and then a future Conservative government will be elected, left to pick up the pieces, and blamed for austerity.

The RRSP contribution changes in particular will not happen. The Liberals will not be able to convince the idiots in the general public that this only helps “the rich” the way they were able to do with the TFSA.

#19 Howard on 08.16.21 at 3:30 pm

#3 Millennial 1%er on 08.16.21 at 2:55 pm
Young canadian tech professionals are voting with their feet, not with their mail in ballots.

I hear the BBQ is good in Austin Texas. Not that I’d need it since Google would pay for all my lunches (tax free)

Enjoy funding your own retirement!

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Good on you. I think all Canadians under 40, hell maybe even under 50, need to explore their options for emigration.

#20 Tax-I-Der-My on 08.16.21 at 3:33 pm

Garth,

I only see the acronym TFSA noted on this site today?

What does it stand for again?

Taxable Fully Sitting Asset?

#21 UCC on 08.16.21 at 3:36 pm

Vaccine Passports to go to the gym or the local bar are draconian & totalitarian. This should be a free country. Vaccine Passport punishes those who did the right thing by getting fully vaccinated.

Solve the problem correctly. If the government (and the people) want everyone to be vaccinated, then pass a proper law making it mandatory. Place the pain on the un-vaccinated crowd. Give them two days to show up for their jab before a warrant is issue for their arrest. No passport require.

#22 Dolce Vita on 08.16.21 at 3:39 pm

#4 Woke up this morning…

Covid Passports are NOT a disaster. You don’t even have them yet in Canada. How would you know?

They are working just fine in France & Italy. No bellyaching and people feel much safer (incl. me). Plurality is +75% in France & Italy. Other EU citizens traveling to France & Italy get them even if not mandatory in their country e.g., UK, Germany.

It’s a QR code on your Smartphone with some personal + vax details you flash to get into places like museums, planes, trains, restaurants, etc. = enclosed spaces.

An entire 20 sec out of your life to bring the Green Pass up on screen. If you fly RyanAir in Europe your ticket is a QR code screen you flash and use to open a turnstile to access your gate.

So 2 things instead of 1. OMG, the END TIMES are upon us. Please.

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Cons PCR test idea is stupid.

Tests are expensive and the unvaxd will use them as an excuse to not get vaxd…and their goes herd immunity.

France was not charging for them as the unvaxd used them to get into concerts or whatever. No more. Now it costs about €40. And totally ended Oct 15. And the French are near 80% for ending that practice and forcing the unvaxd to get vaxd.

All the N. American MSM shows is a few anti-Green Pass whack jobs protesting in piazze in Italia or squares in France.

The VAST MAJORITY supports the Green Pass.

In the old, old days to travel to Europe you had a paper passport showing you received the required vaxes to enter countries there. Now its digital and still people bitch. Malcontents.

#23 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 3:39 pm

Hmmm.
Trudeaus’ 20,000 Afghan refugees is looking more like 500

NEVER overestimate the ability of Canadian bureaucrats to drop the ball in a rapidly changing situation.

The Americans announce they were pulling out 6 MONTHS ago…..
One wonders how many e-mails, Zoom meetings , calls and face to face the govt Mandarins had to decide if the curtains on the evac planes would be pink, blue or gender neutral grey…?

Well the Afghani Canadian Military interpreters being shot dead on 6pm News over the next few weeks should cost the Libs a few votes….

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/08/16/otoole-trudeau-afghanistan-evacuations/

#24 Hurtin' Albertan on 08.16.21 at 3:40 pm

A world of hurt coming to Alberta due to predicted (and preventable) 4th wave:

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/b-c-researchers-predict-large-alberta-fourth-wave-in-covid-modelling

What a great time for an election. Best summer ever.

Oh, well at least if the PCs manage to dethrone Trudeau I can look forward to more tax credits for my kids, a GST holiday and a 15% tax credit for vacation expenses of up to $1,000 per person for Canadians to vacation in Canada in 2022.

I see they plan to pay for their promises by (studying the potential for) introducing new taxes on frequent flyers, non-electric luxury vehicles, and luxury second homes, and by providing more funding to the Canada Revenue Agency, increasing to $750 million per year, to fund stronger enforcement of taxation for multinational
firms, taxation of large corporations, international taxation, and other tax evasion to ensure that the wealthy, foreign multinationals and Big Tech Companies pay their fair share.

Both NDP and CPC plans yet to be costed by Canada’s Parliamentary Budget Office

https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/16102359/f8279981721e07a.pdf

#25 Leichendiener on 08.16.21 at 3:41 pm

A friend of mine’s daughter almost died from a blood clot. She’s in her late twenties. It was very close call. The doctor told her it was probably her birth control and not her recent vaccination.

#26 Official News from CDC on 08.16.21 at 3:41 pm

Just came back from a travel agency in West end.

THE FRIENDLY AGENT IS TELLING ME LOTS OF People are buying one way tickets to EUROPE – selling houses and are done with this SHITHOLE

U CAN STICK TURDEAU, CYNTHIA AND THE PATHETIC CONSERVATIVE TOOL WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE.

ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME CANNED GARBAGE

THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAYIMG

#27 X on 08.16.21 at 3:42 pm

I know ‘tax the rich’ gets votes, but it doesn’t get revenue.

An increase to the GST is likely the simplest way to implement something, it already exists. Just tack on a % or two. Rich people spend more generally, so this would tax rich people more.

#28 Buffet of Rights on 08.16.21 at 3:49 pm

You cannot be that thick. – Garth

I may be Garth. It’s not out of realm of possibility.

FYI:
85,000 abortions are done annually in Canada.
26,702 Covid deaths to date in Canada.

WOW, that’s neither here nor there, yet somehow interesting. The numbers are ever worse world wide at 56m abortions and 4.37m Covid deaths. 45% of those abortions are unsafe, and result in huge death numbers and millions of hospitalizations.

It is actually an interesting context to consider, coincidentally.

#29 My Karma Ran Over Your Dogma on 08.16.21 at 3:50 pm

Erin O’ Toole was he pushed or did he jump?

He just went splat to the pavement with that pronouncement.

Trumpsters in his party are happy and for what, so we can never be FREE of this pandemic.

Bill Davis’ passing was also the passing of Progressive Conservatives.

#30 Sequel on 08.16.21 at 3:52 pm

#16 AO1

Bring back Harper!!!

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H2?

I don’t think Stephen wants to clean up this fiscal disaster area known as Canada.

I don’t think anyone really wants to.

Justin is counting on it.

Punish Justin!

…by making him clean up this mess

…with a majority! :-)

#31 Sheesh on 08.16.21 at 3:54 pm

8 Nathan Gratton on 08.16.21 at 3:12 pm
The RRSP reduction would be a good change as it is the only one of those suggestions that will go after the rich, the rich being teachers, nurses and anyone else working for the government.

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Teachers et al. don’t have much rrsp contribution room as it is, thanks to their juicy DB plan contributions, so it would only be fair if the contribution limits to those plans is also reduced. Think that will happen?

#32 Sail Away on 08.16.21 at 3:55 pm

Heh. If you see a guy back in the shadows with a wide grin watching the drama unfold… he just might respond to ‘Sail Away’.

Or IH. Hard to say.

#33 binky barnes on 08.16.21 at 3:57 pm

I have long been a champion of the PM PM (Mr. Justin Trudeau). But I now think it is time to remove him from Office. It is the nation’s only hope for recovery. Goodbye PM PM, you know ol’ Binky Barnes loves you!

BB

#34 SunShowers on 08.16.21 at 3:59 pm

#22 Leichendiener
The doctor is likely right.
Hormonal birth control has a blood clot risk orders of magnitude higher than COVID vaccines, but nobody really bats an eye about it.

#35 Soviet Capitalist on 08.16.21 at 4:06 pm

A good question is what will they tax, but an even better question is what will be the loopholes that Chrystia and Justin leave for themselves.

#36 Sydneysider on 08.16.21 at 4:08 pm

Has anybody explained the social purpose of the vaccine passport, apart from winning elections? As Singapore’s experience shows, vaccination does not affect the probability of infection; the benefits come only in terms of the reduced symptoms. [25% of current cases occur among the unvaccinated, who also make up 25% of the population.]

Logically, the immune compromised might be marginally better off in future travelling among unvaccinated people who might be expected to display their infection in terms of obvious symptoms.

#37 jimmy zhao on 08.16.21 at 4:08 pm

When we have vaccine passports, will police be stopping citizens on the street and asking them for their “Papiere, Bitte” ?

#38 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 4:09 pm

@#27 X
“Rich people spend more generally, so this would tax rich people more.”

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Maybe but the Uber rich have expensive tax lawyers and accountants to deal with such nonsense.

A higher GST, while fair to all, will hurt the poor more.

#39 Terri on 08.16.21 at 4:12 pm

Garth, who guarantees that vax passports will only be temporary. The reason why they want to put them in now because they know by next year it will not be such a big issue and they can’t get away with it. Also, notice they call it a vaccine passport and not a covid passport because they are going to use this for everything. What do you think I was born yesterday.

I am sorry Garth, but you got to admit, since more and more people are on their mobile phones, I-Phones whatever they want to call them, they are more anti-social and can’t critically think anymore of the future consequences of government power and how it is worse in the end for individuals, personal choices, freedoms.

By the way, I saw last week it was 77% wanted a vax passport but now it is 60%. The support keep dropping. The misleading media keeps going to push this because they get paid by Trudeau, Liberals in the hundreds of millions. This is why he called an election so soon.

#40 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.16.21 at 4:12 pm

Smashy smashy, fraudy fraudy (not a TesLOL because the harming of children is nothing to L about):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/16/five-children-injured-tesla-crashes-school-car-park/

#41 Adam Smith on 08.16.21 at 4:13 pm

I think a Liberal minority would actually be worse than a majority. That would mean they’d still be worried about returning to the polls in short order and would rely on the NDP for support, meaning they would have to keep the goodies coming and not start the heavy lifting that is going to be required.

Better Trudeau gets a majority and owns this horrendous mess so people realize the tax increases and cuts to services are a result of his mismanagement. Canadians need that drilled into their head, otherwise they will think its somehow a result of the Conservatives being mean.

#42 Shamus on 08.16.21 at 4:20 pm

DELETED (Anti-vax)

#43 XGRO and chill on 08.16.21 at 4:22 pm

JT and CF aren’t going to raise taxes unless BoC bond ratings fall.

He gives each voting group a piece of what they want, so that they keep voting him in. That’s why there is no cohesive vision, policies are all over the place. We get a weak carbon tax, but we also buy a pipeline, for instance.

Effectively every key voting group gets a cheque with his name on it, and in turn, they vote him back in. The rising deficit? The debt? “Well, the US is doing it and seem to be alright, so why should we care?”

Unfortunately, you cannot get something for nothing, and also unfortunately, people are poor students of history. Inflation and debt do not lead to prosperity.

#44 Damifino on 08.16.21 at 4:22 pm

Wow. Right out of the gate O’Toole picks a hopeless hill to die on. Let’s suppose he did support mandatory vaxing of federal employees & travelers. What would the rural, socon, rightist, western base do? Vote NDP? They’ve only got one horse in the race and O’Toole is it.

#45 Sara on 08.16.21 at 4:30 pm

#8 Nathan Gratton on 08.16.21 at 3:12 pm
“The RRSP reduction would be a good change as it is the only one of those suggestions that will go after the rich, the rich being teachers, nurses and anyone else working for the government.”
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Wrong. Teachers and government employees have little or no RRSP contribution room due to their generous pensions.

#46 James on 08.16.21 at 4:30 pm

#1 Drill Baby Drill on 08.16.21 at 2:51 pm

I agree with you O’Toole is no prize but I think the electorate has had enough of Justin black face and his smarmy attitude as well as his non performance on almost every issue.
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I can’t stand listening to that blithering idiot talk and talk and talk. He can never get through an entire sentence without an err or an ah in his diction.
And stop talking to us like were sheep.

#47 Steve S on 08.16.21 at 4:36 pm

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#48 cramar on 08.16.21 at 4:36 pm

It seems to me that hiking the HST by incorporating a “covid tax” would be more palatable to the public than doing it covertly. I think people would understand that better knowing that we all have to pay since the FEDs gave billions out to keep people afloat during the lockdowns. Of course it will be just “temporary” like the original GST and even income tax itself.

Today I received a $500 largess from the FEDs that just magically appeared in my bank account. They never asked whether I needed it. Free money (taxable of course). No end of trying to buy votes—this time from Boomers.

#49 liberals just keep taxing on 08.16.21 at 4:40 pm

Garth, you know they are going to attach something to the primary residence in a form of a tax. Just because they may not tax capital gains on it it does not mean they will do nothing.

They could put a renovations, repairs tax of say 10% on top of the GST/HST. They could put a transaction tax when buying and selling of say 5% or 10% for all real estate not just primary residence.

They could also put a home empties tax on all real estate across Canada. They could put a real estate commission, fees tax of say 20%. They could put a yearly primary residence climate change tax of based on the average consumption of a household say of $1,000 a year.

They could put a reference real estate tax which is based on assessment value of each province. It could b the same charged by your property tax bill or something else.

They could be a square meters real estate tax which could be say $1 a square foot per year. They could start putting a tax of say 1% a year on the value of your mortgage balance or CMHC insurance coverage balance. See what I came up with imagine them. By the way, they can all do this through the income tax system so the comments that they can’t charge property taxes like the province, city is nonsense.

#50 Nonplused on 08.16.21 at 4:41 pm

“Taxing principal residences
Nah, ain’t happening.”

Well, that’s what I’ve been saying every time the subject comes up since forever.

My main argument is that with the exception of the YVR and YYZ service areas, nobody really makes money on a primary residence once you count mortgage costs (or forgone investment revenue if you don’t have a mortgage), inflation, maintenance, property taxes, realtor fees, etc.

Of course in YVR and YYZ we have some spectacular gains above and beyond all those things. But that is also where the Liberal and NDP voters live. There will be no tax that targets YVR and YYZ specifically.

Looking at this chart;

http://www.chpc.biz/6-canadian-metros.html

We see that other than something weird and recent in Ottawa and Montreal, there aren’t a whole lot of capital gains to tax other than in YVR and YYZ. Yet the mortgage et. al. must still be paid. Things are getting so bad that some of these other cities aren’t going to fit on the same scale as YVR and YYZ soon.

So when millennials tell you that “housing is unaffordable”, what they mean is that they want to live in nice digs in downtown Vancouver or Toronto, and that is unaffordable. You can still get a brand new row house in Calgary for $300,000. With 5% down you could carry that for less than $1,300/month. But that isn’t the living arrangement the millennials have in mind.

Anyway they can go ahead and put a capital gains tax on primary residences if they want, I live in Alberta so it is unlikely to have much affect on me. However it will be political suicide in YVR and YYZ.

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As for the other items, ya, they could go after those. But there won’t be much in the way of long term tax gains.

For example, reducing the RRSP contribution limit or what I see more likely is changing it from the marginal rate to a flat 17% deduction will just reduce contributions and thus taxes later when the folks retire. There might be some gain, and money now is more important than money later given the mess we are in, but there will not be a huge long term gain.

They probably will go after the TFSA (again). But that will be a nightmare. How do you separated the gains from the contributions? An accountant’s dream! And since most people put the money in GIC’s, what’s the point? No big money there.

A new uber-rich rate? Well, as Garth stated there aren’t enough of them to make much difference if you up’d the rate to 90%. But you could convince a lot of them to spend more time on the golf course and less time in the operating room.

Capital gains taxes? Maybe this one will bring in some additional revenue, but it will also make investing in Canada a lot less attractive, reducing economic activity all across the board.

We are at peak tax. They will try to raise revenues, but they will get nowhere. It will look analogous to a hill climbing motorcycle that doesn’t make it to the top.

Or another analogy might be Lake Mead. You keep sucking the water out and eventually you have to shut down the turbines.

#51 Joe on 08.16.21 at 4:43 pm

As usual real estate gets the benefit. Prices keep rising decade after decade and tax free at that.

#52 Paul B on 08.16.21 at 4:55 pm

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#53 andrew on 08.16.21 at 4:56 pm

#21

That’s a little harsh. There are those that:

1. Can’t get the vaccine due to health issues. Imagine what happens when police start arresting…mistakes will be made.
2. Religious issues (I know, who cares, but it’s real)

The reality is the passport is the best option. It allows the greatest access to services while still giving the right of people not to get the jab, for valid reasons. And really, if it’s an app on your phone, what’s the big deal? You have a credit card. You have a health card. It’s not an inconvenience. And besides. Once private enterprises require proof…guess what…you either provide it our eat somewhere else, fly a different airline, etc… if you don’t like it. Tough. Business will move forward, with or without your choice to take part.

Of course we hate the anti-vaxxers. They are ignorant and dangerous. But unfortunately they are stuck in the same pool as those without the option to vaccinate. A passport takes care of this.

#54 Diamond Dog on 08.16.21 at 4:58 pm

So let’s leave the vax quagmire and try to answer the question of WWCD?

Sorry Garth, can’t let one go.

Trying to find the right words here. “My body, my choice” is right out of Fox news. One might expect that from Trump acolytes like Desantis or Rand Paul but from politicians in Canada, leaders of parties no less… is O’Toole trying to compete with Bernier for the bottom 1%? Shoring up the Wexit vote, is he?

We think the Libs are bad, but it’s shaping up to be an ugly garden party and no amount of tax increase fears will help bail them out from themselves. Perused with boredom the Conservative web page last night. The more I watched of Erin O’Toole, the more turned off I became. The criticisms without the working solutions. Under plan headings, check out the “environment” video:

https://www.conservative.ca/

They may as well delete it, they would be better off. It begins with the end of the carbon tax followed by a “green account” no one will understand. “We compete with major polluters who don’t price carbon” is nothing short of a cop out. There is no plan, just business as usual and hope enough EV’s hit the road without their help to meet the Paris accord which is too low of a bar in and of itself.

If climate change is your #1 motivator to vote (as 45% of British Columbians are these days “before” their heat wave), you won’t find much reason to vote Conservative. I couldn’t find one.

How to best put it…. if a political party wants to beat the incumbent, you don’t attack good policy following it up with something bad or worse, with no effort at all and claim it’s just as good. It’s a recipe for losers. It’s unimaginative, uninspiring, void of solutions, void of innovation and void of common sense but there’s lots of self interest there for business as usual right, and we know, even when we are lying our asses off, we know how business as usual will end.

Take for example, the carbon tax. Burned hydrocarbons are taxed onto the consumer with the purchase of gas, diesel and nat gas to force consumer habits to change. Consumers faced with higher costs will become more efficient and buy or purchase transportation that is more efficient. The fact that Carbon pricing is ramping up meaningfully at the pumps with the introduction of EV’s in 2022 and 2023 is no mere coincidence. It was planned and timed years ahead with an excellent understanding of the rollout of EV’s and green tech.

What are consumers going to do when faced with the prospects of replacing gas guzzlers @ $1.50 or higher at the pumps when they can run on electricity for a tenth of the price? When they look around and find provincial and federal subsidies? They’ll switch and buy EV’s is what they’ll do. Is this bad policy? It is if you’re an oil burner or profit off of the sale of oil & gas. Is it good policy? It is, if climate change is a big issue for you.

The Conservatives were a regional party in the last election and it cost them their right to govern nationally. Their position on climate change makes them still a regional party now. And they are following up a carbon tax with essentially a business as usual do nothing plan to solidify it. I can’t begin to express how short sighted this is and where it will lead them.

Conservatives could embrace the carbon tax and improve on it through spending this revenue directly on facilities throughout Canada and not lose a seat out west but gain more in BC, Ontario, Quebec, everywhere (more on that later) They could win a majority if they did but they have chosen not to on such a fundamentally important and growing issue through representing mere regional and self interests. As the saying goes, we reap what we sow.

#55 Cici on 08.16.21 at 5:01 pm

Yup, that Tool’s a gonner. Wonder how much the “Liberals” had to pay him off to get him out of the race?

C’mon guys, let’s all vote for The Bloc. Just for fun… it could be so hilarious. Besides, surely the end result couldn’t be any worse than four more years Snowflake rule?

As I’ve already said a million times (but it’s worth repeating), Canada needs a tride and true Progressive Conservative party with smart members who also understand basic logic and possess common sense.

Right now, there is no real, viable opposition party ;-(

#56 Barb on 08.16.21 at 5:01 pm

“Family wealth”.

Do you mean an inheritance tax?

#57 red falcon on 08.16.21 at 5:02 pm

Bad bad people in government these days. Always virtue signaling with no true intent at all. THe mindless sheeple will forever vote them, cuz it’s the in thing to do… unless you can get a true comparison to LKY in Singapore. Now that’s a man you can get behind. True conviction, and passion, and has the iron to keep this country going. Not this monkey farce of a man who just takes selfies and talks nothing good.

#58 T on 08.16.21 at 5:04 pm

#28 Buffet of Rights on 08.16.21 at 3:49 pm
You cannot be that thick. – Garth

I may be Garth. It’s not out of realm of possibility.

FYI:
85,000 abortions are done annually in Canada.
26,702 Covid deaths to date in Canada.

WOW, that’s neither here nor there, yet somehow interesting. The numbers are ever worse world wide at 56m abortions and 4.37m Covid deaths. 45% of those abortions are unsafe, and result in huge death numbers and millions of hospitalizations.

It is actually an interesting context to consider, coincidentally.

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The answer is better health care for everyone, especially the those experiencing unsafe procedures. Safe procedures and vaccination for all.

#59 leebow on 08.16.21 at 5:05 pm

We live in the era of political nanism. A bunch of pompous folks beating around, not able to offer and insist on real solutions to the very real problems we have with public and personal finance.

#60 Concerned Citizen on 08.16.21 at 5:06 pm

I agree with you a lot Garth, but c’mon now:

“Instead of getting to keep half of a gain free of tax, this could drop it to a quarter. Every investor trying to look after their own future needs would be affected. But, as you now know, capitalism is bad.”

Is only 50% of the income from your day job subject to taxation? Then why should the money you make on money only be subject to 50% inclusion? It’s absurd. By all means let’s keep tax incentives for real capital investment (plant, equipment, etc.). But financial investment deserves no such benefit – it’s obscene that this tax inclusion exists to begin with. For regular people, the TFSA and RRSP are together more than sufficient to finance a very comfortable retirement. 100% of financial capital gains should be subject to tax. Full stop.

If you’re worried about capitalism – and we should be – you ought to be far more concerned about central bankers disallowing two-way price discovery in financial markets leading to the massive bubbles we see now. You also ought to be concerned about skyrocketing wealth inequality while inflation eats away at the working and middle classes (also a direct byproduct of central bank policy). Capitalism will only survive if it works for most people, and it very much hasn’t been recently. We have socialism for rich people, and harsh capitalism for everyone else.

#61 macduff on 08.16.21 at 5:08 pm

#9 Economic Shutdowns in Australia: But the guys the Hospital Capacity! Let’s build camps, instead. History repeats.

Well, they are not installing gas chambers and ovens in those camps are they? Your comments are deeply insulting to those of us who have family who perished in the Holocaust and you suggest that quarantine camps are in any way analogous to the horrors of what we experienced then. Garth this guy should be censured.

#62 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.16.21 at 5:09 pm

I said that I will have a look a O’Toole, before I make up my mind.
First Impression: not good.
When asked what he would to regarding mandating vaccines for federal employees, he said “nothing”.
I’ll vote for leaders who do things, even if they are unpopular.
Imagine they asked Churchill: What will you do about the Germans bombing London?
Nothing. Everyone does their own thing.
Can’t infringe on individual FREEDOMS!
Sounds pretty stupid, does it not.
Well, let’s see what he will or will not do about the deficit?
The people are looking for a leader.
Is O’Toole a leader?

#63 Nonplused on 08.16.21 at 5:10 pm

#16 AO1 on 08.16.21 at 3:24 pm
Bring back Harper!!!

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I’m betting Harper is on the roof of the embassy waiting for a helicopter to pick him up and fly him away.

Harper tried to do something about the budget when it was already approaching “too late”. I am sure he is good enough at math to know that at this point even he couldn’t do a thing about it, assuming he could get people to buy in which he couldn’t, and it is time to head for the life boats.

#64 TMac on 08.16.21 at 5:11 pm

Vax passport will be me showing myself the door to this country.
The idea that there will be more taxes to pay for the spendiest PM in history all while going down the slippery slope of full government control should be enough to make anyone sick to their stomach.
Sadly the majority of this country has been beaten with fear into compliance.

#65 OK, Doomer on 08.16.21 at 5:14 pm

Kenney in Alberta is missing the mark. He let the NDP grab the COVID high ground and they’re beating him with it.

The only higher ground left for Kenney is to invite all unvaxxed people in for antibody tests. If they have antibodies, they don’t need the vax and automatically get whatever vax passport is dreamed up.

And you can include kids under 12 in the count. Mandatory antibody testing for everyone under 12. This will give a scientific baseline as to how many people actually have been exposed and recovered. As of now we have no idea. We might be at herd immunity and not even know it.

Ig Kenney announces an antibody testing program for the unvaxxed he takes away the high ground from Notley. She’d have to argue against antibody testing, which is a massive, illogical loser of an argument.

#66 Quintilian on 08.16.21 at 5:14 pm

The cons have a cancer, and no, it’s not the leader.
It is their Retrumplican Canadian cousins.

#67 Nonplused on 08.16.21 at 5:17 pm

#39 Barb on 08.16.21 at 5:01 pm
“Family wealth”.

Do you mean an inheritance tax?

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We already have one on all assets besides the primary residence and personal effects. It’s just not called an “inheritance tax”. Instead the tax is applied to the deceased’s estate in the form of income and capital gains taxes. If you have any assets at all, this results in the highest possible marginal tax rates as it all happens in the year of death. If the heirs were taxed as an “inheritance tax”, there might be more than one of them resulting in lower marginal rates.

So no, that isn’t going to work either.

We are at peak tax.

#68 B from Q on 08.16.21 at 5:18 pm

Did the current government stop spending or is the spigot (more fire hydrant) still fully open?

They still managed to sign contracts for vaccine deliveries up till 2024
‘The contract is for supplies 2022 and 2023, with an option to extend into 2024.’
and sign with Moderna To Build Vaccine Facility In Canada.

Internalize the gains, externalize the expenses.

#69 Cici on 08.16.21 at 5:20 pm

One more thing the Tool didn’t think about… he’s just given the oil legacy away to the Libs and their friends.

Oil will continue to spit, smoke and sputter in the short term, but when it comes back it’ll be with a huge rebound… only the profit-taking will be in new hands and feed another four years of Liberal reign thanks to generous handouts to the electorate.

#70 Old Ron on 08.16.21 at 5:23 pm

This blog is full of Canadians Drama Queens. Seriously. We are in an election. We have a Centre-left party vs a Centre-right party. We will all be fine regardless of who wins.

Liberals (when not in need of NDP support) campaign from the Left and govern from the Centre-Left. Conservatives campaign from the Right and govern from the Centre-Right. It is called stability, which we have in abundance.

Ask Garth, he hung out with both parties and is none the worse for wear.

#71 Doug t on 08.16.21 at 5:26 pm

I’m praying for the Alien mother ship to land on this rock and
A. save us all from ourselves
B. evaporate humans and save the planet
C. the ship lands the doors open and Benny Hill is the pilot
D. they inform us that we have exactly one year to get our collective sh*t together before they return

#72 Doug t on 08.16.21 at 5:29 pm

#64 tmac

I’m with you – got my shots but screw this ” Vee must zee your papers” bs – they world is living in FEAR of everything and it has to stop ✋

#73 Yukon Elvis on 08.16.21 at 5:35 pm

VAT Rates in Europe
VAT (Value Added Tax) is an indirect tax on goods and services throughout Europe. VAT is not the same throughout Europe as the standard VAT rates range from 17% to 27%. VAT is also known in some countries as GST (Goods and services tax) and it is levied on the price of a product or service at each stage of the production distribution and sale.
Each EU member state decides on the percentage of VAT (Value added tax) tax on the of goods and services. This tax is meant to be applied on the added value that the specific business adds to the service or goods. Each state can decide on the VAT tax but EU law prohibits VAT to be set below 15% and at the same time one of the two reduced rates needs to be above 5%.
The VAT collected is the difference between the VAT on the sales and the VAT on the purchase of the services or goods.

https://www.globalvatcompliance.com/vat-rates-in-europe-2021/

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We have some catching up to do !

#74 Tripp on 08.16.21 at 5:36 pm

Cumulative data for the City of Ottawa(Population: 1,000,000) from the Daily COVID-19 Dashboard at ottawapublichealth.ca:

Confirmed Cases: 27,997 (2.80% of Population)
Deaths: 593 (2.12% of Confirmed Cases/0.06% of Population). 391 of the deaths occurred in 2020.

Age distribution (deceased):

Over 70 y/o: 484.
40-69 y/o: 107.
20-39 y/o: 2.
Under 19 y/o: 0.

#75 BobinKits on 08.16.21 at 5:45 pm

325. Leichendiener on 08.16.21 at 3:41 pm

A friend of mine’s daughter almost died from a blood clot. She’s in her late twenties. It was very close call. The doctor told her it was probably her birth control and not her recent vaccination.

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L……You may want to talk to your friends daughter and suggest that her doctor test her for Factor V Leiden which is a blood disorder and can cause abnormal blood clotting resulting in a pulmonary embolism (normally diagnosed during the autopsy). Factor V and estrogen based birth controls can be a lethal combination. My mother had Factor V as do I.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/factor-v-leiden/symptoms-causes/syc-20372423

#76 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.16.21 at 5:47 pm

#73 Yukon Elvis on 08.16.21 at 5:35 pm
VAT Rates in Europe
VAT (Value Added Tax) is an indirect tax on goods and services throughout Europe. VAT is not the same throughout Europe as the standard VAT rates range from 17% to 27%. VAT is also known in some countries as GST (Goods and services tax) and it is levied on the price of a product or service at each stage of the production distribution and sale.
Each EU member state decides on the percentage of VAT (Value added tax) tax on the of goods and services. This tax is meant to be applied on the added value that the specific business adds to the service or goods. Each state can decide on the VAT tax but EU law prohibits VAT to be set below 15% and at the same time one of the two reduced rates needs to be above 5%.
The VAT collected is the difference between the VAT on the sales and the VAT on the purchase of the services or goods.

https://www.globalvatcompliance.com/vat-rates-in-europe-2021/

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We have some catching up to do !
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Yeah,
And include all taxes and tips in the total bill.
It’s the civilized thing to do.

#77 Sail Away on 08.16.21 at 5:47 pm

Ah, my peeps:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-draws-throngs-as-covid-19-surges-11629117902?mod=hp_featst_pos3

We have a few bikers in the family who drive a moho up and camp on our land near Custer during the rally. Nothing keeps riffraff away like a bunch of armed bikers!

I personally can’t stand loud cars or bikes, though. Quiet wilderness for me.

#78 NewWest on 08.16.21 at 5:50 pm

#34 SunShowers on 08.16.21 at 3:59 pm

#22 Leichendiener
The doctor is likely right.
Hormonal birth control has a blood clot risk orders of magnitude higher than COVID vaccines, but nobody really bats an eye about it.

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It’s interesting how humans perceive risk.

A quick web search indicates that women who use estrogen-based birth control have a three to four fold increase in developing blood clots. The rate without birth control is one to five women a year out of 10,000 suffering blood clots, so with birth control this is elevated to 3 to 20 women a year more or less out of 10,000 suffering blood clots. So 20 in 10,000 is 0.2% for that population per year.

The only covid vaccine associated with blood clotting in women is the AstraZeneca vaccine. According to data from The European Medical Agency (EU) as of April 4, 2021 222 cases of thrombosis in women have been reported from a total of 34 million vaccinated people in the EU.

Doing a little gedanken experiment, if we assume that half the vaccinated people are women, that means of all women vaccinated 0.0013% will suffer a blood clot. This is well below the “normal” rate of clotting for women who have not been vaccinated, and, at this low rate, is well within the range of naturally occurring blood clots in women.

Women can choose not to get the AstraZeneca vaccine, of course, which now with the data we have would be the better choice. We have known about the risk to women of blood clots while using estrogen-based birth control for decades, yet women still choose to use it instead of an alternate method.

So it’s surprising to me that I’ve heard women say that they won’t get any covid vaccine because “the risk of side effects is too high”, often referring to blood clots. On the one hand, it appears that preventing pregnancy is worth a risk of blood clots far higher than that of a covid vaccine, whereas in some people’s minds the risk of death from the virus is seen as less likely and not worth the risk of the vaccine.

Some graduate student is going to publish a really fascinating thesis on Covid vaccines and perceived risk in the next ten years. It will be interesting reading.

(And no, no references – all this data is easy to find from reputable sources and I don’t want to geek out entirely…..)

#79 Blogdog123 on 08.16.21 at 5:52 pm

O’Toole has to show some balls and put those wingnut socons and anti-vaxxers in their place…

Those folks won’t vote for T2 out of spite. They’ll just hold their nose, clench their teeth and vote conservative…

O’Toole’s carbon pricing scheme a few months ago was a complete joke: Some crazies told him to create a byzantine carbon scheme that would have some bureacracy to keep track of your carbon bucks. The exact opposite of what a conservative should propose. More gov’t oversight. This will provide ammunition to T2 and their attack ads for days to come…

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/low-carbon-bucks-conservatives-pitch-consumer-carbon-pricing-through-savings-account-1.5388541

During a technical briefing, a Conservative official said that government would provide oversight to the program, for example, having an allowable list of items that can be purchased using the low-carbon bucks. The briefing was provided to media on the condition that those officials not be named.

#80 NSNG on 08.16.21 at 5:56 pm

It’s funny how people can always complain about the leftists and their policies but they can always find an excuse to vote for them because the other guys aren’t leftist enough.

This is your very own mess, Canada. Time to look in the mirror and stop blaming ‘those awful cons’ for not being what you want.

#81 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.16.21 at 5:59 pm

#23 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 3:39 pm
Hmmm.
Trudeaus’ 20,000 Afghan refugees is looking more like 500

NEVER overestimate the ability of Canadian bureaucrats to drop the ball in a rapidly changing situation.
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How many un-vetted immigrants to you want?
The Taliban apparently opened up some prisons.
That should provide some choice, qualified applicants.
And it may sound harsh, but some Afghanis could have made better choices, as to who they worked for.
The Vietkong did not take kindly to the Vietnamese who worked for the Americans.

#82 Father's Daughter on 08.16.21 at 6:00 pm

#70 Old Ron on 08.16.21 at 5:23 pm
This blog is full of Canadians Drama Queens. Seriously. We are in an election. We have a Centre-left party vs a Centre-right party. We will all be fine regardless of who wins.

Liberals (when not in need of NDP support) campaign from the Left and govern from the Centre-Left. Conservatives campaign from the Right and govern from the Centre-Right. It is called stability, which we have in abundance.

Ask Garth, he hung out with both parties and is none the worse for wear.

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No kidding. Take a look around people. It’s called perspective. There is a price to pay for stability and safety. Nothings close to perfect but it could be a hell of a lot worse for all of us. For all of you threatening to leave to where the grass is most certainly not always greener, see you never. Enjoy. There are millions ready and willing to take your place. The doctors are doing just fine.

#83 Drew on 08.16.21 at 6:02 pm

There’s a left leaning “drink water, eat kale, exercise, and you won’t get sick” idiot brigade of anti-vaxxers too.

Seems like it was only a matter of time before the TFSA was changed into being useless. It’s too good for people that know how to use it, and ‘too unfair’ for people that don’t.

#84 Don Guillermo on 08.16.21 at 6:04 pm

“Jagmeet Singh’s wife wears $1,124 dress for maternity shoot as the NDP plans to tax ‘luxury goods”

Hahah, another hypocrite fighting for the middle class family.

#85 Neo on 08.16.21 at 6:11 pm

I find it interesting that the past week since they started breaking down the data there are more fully vaccinated testing positive this summer than the same day total last year with noone in the population vaccinated. Three straight days of no deaths. That would apply to vaccinated and unvaccinated.

Aug. 16th 2021 -113 new cases – fully vaxxed
Audg. 16th 2020 – 81 new cases in entire unvaxxed population

Hmmmm

They might want to dial back the cycles on the PCR test. That is if that is what is at work here.

#86 Burnt Toast on 08.16.21 at 6:12 pm

#15 SunShowers on 08.16.21 at 3:24 pm

“I’m a firm believer in ‘my body, my choice’, which is why I think I should be able to drink and drive, because I’M choosing to put alcohol in MY body, and drive MY car.”

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I completely agree with you … so when I say that I’M choosing to take MY car and using it to run you over and that it will be MY body behind the steering wheel when I’M backing up over you again ….I hope YOU understand!

#87 Hurtin' Albertan on 08.16.21 at 6:19 pm

forgot to add the CPC promise to pump nearly 1 billion in to the hospitality and tourism sector by providing “a 50% rebate for food and non-alcoholic drinks purchased for dine-in from Monday to Wednesday for one month once it is safe to do so”

waiting for Trudeau and Jagmeet to up the bidding

#88 habitt on 08.16.21 at 6:22 pm

23 Fartzy Thanks for your post. The Americans are struggling as well. All of our people and our allies should have been out months ago. A complete disaster at this point. We will likely see tax increases but that pales to what people are going to put up with in Afganistan now and into the future….Only fighting men should be there now. Armed to the teeth with lots of air support ect. Unreal

#89 Annek on 08.16.21 at 6:25 pm

#15 SunShowers on 08.16.21 at 3:24 pm
“I’m a firm believer in ‘my body, my choice’, which is why I think I should be able to drink and drive, because I’M choosing to put alcohol in MY body, and drive MY car.”
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Exactly! Especially if you live in close proximity to an urban population. You have no obligation to society. It is all about you and your body. Who cares about other people… lol

#90 Linda on 08.16.21 at 6:28 pm

Vaccine passports. If you don’t want to travel, then all is well. If you do want to travel to ‘other’ countries, then your choice get jabbed or stay home, because those countries won’t give a crap about your ‘rights’. And they will refuse entry to you, or enforce your being quarantined. If other Canadian provinces can keep you out, what makes you think another country will let you in?

As for workplaces insisting on workers being vaccinated, your choice. Don’t work for that employer or get vaccinated. Call it occupational health & safety in action.

#91 Planetgoofy on 08.16.21 at 6:32 pm

#58 T on 08.16.21 at 5:04 pm
#28 Buffet of Rights on 08.16.21 at 3:49 pm
You cannot be that thick. – Garth

I may be Garth. It’s not out of realm of possibility.
FYI:
85,000 abortions are done annually in Canada.
26,702 Covid deaths to date in Canada.
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The answer is better health care for everyone, especially the those experiencing unsafe procedures. Safe procedures and vaccination for all.
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Did you know Canada has dropped in the ranking to 10th spot of 11 highest earning developed nations for health care quality.
Trudeau could give a SH*T that’s for sure.

Just imagine if that joke of a PM got got away with all those scandals ie WE Charity ect. What the hell else would he be doing behind our backs…or maybe he’s got plenty we don’t know about.
Anyone on team calling him out, gets the BOOT….I pray to god, for our financial future the boot meets his ass here.
People gotta get by what a politician looks like, or says…How about principals, ACTIONs and RESULTs. I don’t give a rats A if he or she is in a wheel chair with no arms or legs.

#92 AM in MN on 08.16.21 at 6:34 pm

Deep Blue?

Garth, I always saw you as an Upper Canada Red Tory.
Your views on individual rights and freedoms…and not just the Vax, tend to give this away.

What if you’ve had Covid and have natural antibodies? Especially the many children that do.

Check out the Vax rate/Covid rate in India now.

Sacred tax cows? If anything about the last couple of days in Afghanistan have shown is that when “confidence” in a system is lost, the tipping point comes fast, not slow.

When the whole of the western world’s fiat currency system comes under stress, inflation and devaluation can come quickly, and not in numbers like 8% or 10%.

All of the experts quite often get it all wrong on a massive scale, leading to a complete implosion. Check out Lebanon these days…

The Provincial governments can level any amount of tax they want on your house, never forget that. You pay or they take, it’s that simple and the bond markets know it.

If you really think that global warming is your biggest problem, but think it OK to ask Islamists in the middle east to supply you with oil that you have quit producing yourself in order to make yourself feel good, then I’m sorry but you are too stupid for words and deserve your fate.

#93 For the passport pushers on 08.16.21 at 6:49 pm

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#94 Shawn Allen on 08.16.21 at 6:50 pm

Draconian Irony

# 21 UCC on 08.16.21 at 3:36 pm said:
“Vaccine Passports to go to the gym or the local bar are draconian & totalitarian…

Solve the problem correctly. If the government (and the people) want everyone to be vaccinated, then pass a proper law making it mandatory. Place the pain on the un-vaccinated crowd. Give them two days to show up for their jab before a warrant is issue for their arrest. No passport require.”

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Sure, that would not be nearly as Draconian as showing a vaccine Passport, right? Maybe the post was meant to be sarcastic?

#95 april on 08.16.21 at 6:50 pm

#22 – Right on, I totally agree. Remember when seat belts were made mandatory… what an uproar, and now?
These protestors and complainers need a good dose of something…? to wake them up to reality.

#96 Geppetto on 08.16.21 at 6:55 pm

The Bloomberg opinion piece on TFSAs being taxed is nothing but scaremongering, and I think that you, Garth, know it.

#97 But of course you government paid on 08.16.21 at 6:57 pm

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#98 dosouth on 08.16.21 at 7:00 pm

No matter your political stripe….no vax=no tax, cause you won’t be around to pay any.

But on a more serious note, 80% (thereabouts) of voting Canadians have already decided on the jab and what is best for all so poor old Erin has sealed his fate. Another minority gov’t with Greens losing ground, Jagmeet on the ropes, the Boc, well will be the Bloc and Alta/Sask voting blue….same old same old

#99 Steve French on 08.16.21 at 7:06 pm

IVe come to the painful realisation that when it comes to covid, most people are literally too stupid to understand what is in their own self interests.

All you amateur hour steerage section epidemiologist PhDs just continually spew total nonsense.

#100 The Kelowna Variant on 08.16.21 at 7:07 pm

As the province continues to burn down and smother it’s residents with smoke while 1,450 new covid cases (almost 700 of those cases coming from Kelowna) were recorded over the weekend….

we have just learned that Premier John Horgan will be back from Holidays Tomorrow (Tuesday). So, things should be looking up soon.

#101 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.16.21 at 7:14 pm

It’s interesting to see the demeanor of the Taliban leaders in the chambers of the Presidential Palace.
You’d expect them to shout and shoot into the ceilings.
Quite the opposite.
Very calm and composed.
Compare that to the “patriots” that stormed the US Capitol on Jan 6.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell the bad guys from the good guys.

#102 Repurchase Disagreement on 08.16.21 at 7:15 pm

#70 Old Ron wrote:

Liberals (when not in need of NDP support) campaign from the Left and govern from the Centre-Left. Conservatives campaign from the Right and govern from the Centre-Right. It is called stability, which we have in abundance.

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Problem with that is that there is a constant shift left of that Solar System in relation to the overall ideological Universe. The Liberal of 100 years ago would be horrified by the Liberal of today, and that bygone Liberal would be pretty far to the right if today’s Conservative.

Don’t get me wrong, there have been a lot of welcome and worthy change over that period, but the whole shift of your centre point is decidedly towards more Statism and more Marx & Engles (not a band). The debate is on how far to go.

#103 the Jaguar on 08.16.21 at 7:23 pm

Little Georgia, in her natual black and white tuxedo with that smoky eyeshadow. Semper Fi. Always faithful.

This business of being vaccinated in the workplace and proof of vax for those who wish to travel, etc. Grow up peeps. It’s already been decided by the stakeholders. Business enterprises, who are sick and tired of being handcuffed and want to get back to their normal shenanigans such as making money hand over fist.

Big Banks, big airlines, big hotels, and everything else that is bigger than your small minds. Even this dumbass election is just window dressing. Now get onboard. The train is leaving the station.

“Woo woo. Woo woo. All aboard. “

#104 ogdoad on 08.16.21 at 7:40 pm

Its all manipulating the herd for those who have power. What can we (everyone on this blog – and 90% of others) do, nothing! Blah, blah, blah. Raise taxes? Who’s going to protest, who matters, that is? Cut programs – same question. Info is great, though!

We, the whiny, entitled, duped, first world middle class are gossipers. Not actors. Admit it!

The ‘jab’ is just start btw. (got mine b/c I travel a lot and don’t want that privilege revoked). Point is, ‘this’ has been on the radar for years (speak with someone high-up in public health). Control is attainable and inevitable – right before our eyes. Real question – how do the ‘duped’ feel about it?

So, back to our level – How do we keep more of our hard earned money?

Og

#105 BillyBob on 08.16.21 at 7:40 pm

#76 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.16.21 at 5:47 pm
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Yeah,
And include all taxes and tips in the total bill.
It’s the civilized thing to do.

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Oh my, I do believe hell hath frozen over. I couldn’t agree more. I can’t think of any other place I’ve lived in the world, Middle East, Far East, Europe that doesn’t show prices with tax included. The displayed price is what you’re paying, full stop. It ain’t rocket surgery.

Mainly the Murricans and their Northern Murrica Lite imitators that do this asinine practice of not including the tax in the total price. Perhaps slightly more forgivable in the pre-digital age…not now. But then, they still build new supermarkets in the US with little pull-out tables for people to write checks (not cheques) on. Wowsa.

Oh yeah, and while you’re at it ditch the stupid US paper sizes and go to A4 already.

Pffft. Barbarians.

#106 Trojan House on 08.16.21 at 7:47 pm

Funny, I never considered myself to be anti-social nor an anti-vaxxer. I’ve had all my vaccines and so have my kids. It’s only now, for one shot (or 2), we’re all labelled anti-vaxxers. Interesting.

I know it’s your blog Garth, but your comments are adding to the growing divide between people in this country and that’s not good. I respectfully ask to please tone down your rhetoric.

People refusing the Covid vaccine are extending the pandemic. That is anti-social. Whether it is cowardice or selfishness which has brought you to this point matters not. You divided yourself from us through this poor and flawed decision. Get vaxed. – Garth

#107 DON on 08.16.21 at 7:52 pm

Why did the US pull out the way they did….slowly at first then seemingly abrupt. Judging by the state of affairs at Kabul airport and the panic. Chinese and Russians diplomats staying put but are warned to stay inside.

Fed Election
Conservative own goal today…it will hinder their popularity effort more than it helps them carve off the antivax crowd. My friend was livid he said that. I am glad I am vaxxed.

#108 john green on 08.16.21 at 7:55 pm

Conservative leader Erin O’Toole opposes mandatory vaxing of federal employees and travelers.

Got my vote.
Besides, the pretty debt boy has to go.

#109 Bunker Dweller on 08.16.21 at 8:14 pm

Garth,

For an ex-conservative, similar to John Tory, you are starting to lean left into the totalitarian / fascist state.

We value our freedom, privacy, and informed consent about our medical choices.

We don’t want this country turned into North Korea.

It takes 300 years to gain freedom, but only a couple of years to lose it.

Stop foaming at the mouth and get vaxed. Then we can discuss fixing this country. – Garth

#110 Damifino on 08.16.21 at 8:14 pm

#96 Geppetto

The Bloomberg opinion piece on TFSAs being taxed is nothing but scaremongering, and I think that you, Garth, know it.
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T2 has made his disapproval quite clear. There are plenty of ways to screw up the TFSA beyond simply taxing it.

He could, for example, freeze the allowable total contribution at the current $75,500. Forever. If you’ve already contributed that much, then your work is done.

He could go a step further. If one withdraws funds they may not be replaced in the next calendar year. Or any future calendar year. That would immediately take the glow off the TFSA.

There are so many ways to ruin it while it technically remains “tax free”. I’m sure T2 and Chrystia are equal to the task, should they put their minds to it.

#111 Sail Away on 08.16.21 at 8:23 pm

#40 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.16.21 at 4:12 pm

Smashy smashy, fraudy fraudy (not a TesLOL because the harming of children is nothing to L about)

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That’s nice. Is the game here to list every car accident in the world or only the ones involving Teslas?

Or are you pretending the link you posted involves a faulty Tesla autopilot? News flash: it does not.

#112 Lauren on 08.16.21 at 8:33 pm

@Garth:
“the pandemic will go on and on and on until the herd has immunity”

+70% of Canadians are fully vaccinated. We’ve already got heard immunity. No need for passports. It’s a done deal.

#113 Bunker Dweller on 08.16.21 at 8:33 pm

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#114 Chalkie on 08.16.21 at 8:34 pm

Trudeau and his team have played Santa Claus for over the past year and half on the backs of the honest hard working Canadians, while buying votes through the bleeding hearts of many hands out groups, now he calls for a $500 Million dollar election while only half way through his term. Maybe some of us are really dumb and we were wrong- money boys really does grow on trees, Trudeau his walking proof of that, the secret seeds are in his Jean Pockets.

#115 Michael in-north-york on 08.16.21 at 8:39 pm

I am not sold on the vaccine passports. Agree with O’Toole on that.

Forget the academic debate on the fundamental freedoms vs public duty. Just realize that the practical implementation will be messy.

1. What about people who can’t get vaccinated because of their medical conditions? Will they get another kind of vaccine passport, that says the holder can’t be vaxxed? Will some businesses deny them access anyway?

2. Nobody knows for sure, how long the immunity granted by the vaccines remain in place, and when booster shots will be needed. Will the vaccine passports expire 6 months after the 2-nd dose was taken? Or 12 months after? Imagine the mess of sorting out the valid vs expired passports at every establishment.

3. If we are kind of back to normal, then forein visitors will be coming again. How will the foreign-issued passports or certificates be handled. Even if they are printed in English or translated to English, they will come in a variety of formats. Is every establishment supposed to be able to figure out which of them are valid and which expired?

#116 yvr_lurker on 08.16.21 at 8:48 pm

#107
Why did the US pull out the way they did….slowly at first then seemingly abrupt. Judging by the state of affairs at Kabul airport and the panic. Chinese and Russians diplomats staying put but are warned to stay inside.
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Pictures look eerily similar to those from Saigon in 1975. After 20 years of preparing their armed forces to support the Gov’t, they cave (or more accurately called “turning turbans”) in a matter of a few weeks. Staying indefinitely is not an option, and unfortunately for some more modern-minded people in Afghanistan the current events is a nightmare. Canada should take in a few refugees, but be super-vigilant in making sure no bad apples slip in. By the Taliban releasing all of those who were in jails, there will be some for sure who have a deep hatred to the west.
Quagmire for sure. However, if the Taliban goes back to its ways of the late 1990s of supporting terrorist organizations like al_Queda, it will be a complete deja-vu. This is why super-tight borders are needed, and very careful vetting of “refugees” and immigrants from that part of the world is absolutely essential. Look at France and Belgium for clear examples of what happens with loose controls.

#117 TurnerNation on 08.16.21 at 9:00 pm

1. Supply chain, the rules slowly will starve us. Rules. Rulers.
You will recall the campaign to destroy small business? When the shelves are bare just remember that your government loves you.

USA: MCPHERSON, Kan. (KWCH) – Major food distributor Sysco is halting deliveries to a number of restaurants in Kansas citing labor shortages in the industry.
Now, small businesses, like JD’sKwik Burger, in McPherson, are left scrambling to find other options.”
““Sysco regrets that we have had to delay or pause service for a limited number of customers in various locations.””

UK: Food shortage fear as ‘pingdemic’ grips UK
Thu, 22 July 2021 4:10AM
“Britain’s supermarkets, wholesalers and hauliers have been struggling to ensure stable food and fuel supplies after an official health app told hundreds of thousands of workers to isolate after contact with someone with COVID-19.”

2. Always the control over travel: trapped in your UN Smart City.

https://www.bisnow.com/new-york/news/economic-development/cars-banned-from-meatpacking-forever-following-covid-trial-109794?
“New York City is keeping its cars-free policy in Manhattan’s tony Meatpacking District after the coronavirus pandemic, following the success of the Open Streets program in the neighborhood.
Some have advocated for cars to be banned entirely from the city streets. Architect Vishaan Chakrabarti and his firm, the Practice for Architecture and Urbanism, published an ambitious proposal in The New York Times last summer, envisioning what Manhattan would be like if private cars were banned across the borough.”


— In Ontario people still are broken, and do not want normalcy. They will welcome the endless Economic Lockdowns.

https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2021/08/charol-toronto-uncertainty/
“”The majority of our regular clientele are not ready for indoor dining and we completely understand where they are coming from,” reads a social media post from tiny French restaurant Chabrol.”

.[Israel] Arrival of Lambda could force lockdown, health ministry warns (timesofisrael.com)

#118 Father's Daughter on 08.16.21 at 9:00 pm

#90 Linda on 08.16.21 at 6:28 pm
Vaccine passports. If you don’t want to travel, then all is well. If you do want to travel to ‘other’ countries, then your choice get jabbed or stay home, because those countries won’t give a crap about your ‘rights’. And they will refuse entry to you, or enforce your being quarantined. If other Canadian provinces can keep you out, what makes you think another country will let you in?

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Yes. And we should all be thankful that Canada is enforcing vaccination as a requirement as we clearly have no capacity to host travellers unnecessarily in our ICUs. I am assuming that it’s the same in many parts of the world right now who will enforce our vaccination status. Not to mention, people like to visit Canada uninsured and the collections after the fact isn’t exactly a successful endeavour. We all pay.

#119 Travolta on 08.16.21 at 9:04 pm

Judging by the number of deleted comments, Garth’s censorship resembles that of Twitter.

Twitter heavy censors political views from the right, and imposes ridiculous ‘fact checkers’, while they allow Taliban to tweet freely.

Garth – welcome to the woke culture, even you may be a bit too old for that…

My site will not be a vehicle for the anti-vaccine whackadoodles. Live with it. – Garth

#120 George S on 08.16.21 at 9:06 pm

I wonder how much money could be gathered by removing the charitable status of churches and various infrastructure of all religions and treating them like a non-profit unless they are shipping money out of the country to their “head office” in another country, then treat them like a business. Make all donations to the assorted religions taxable, just like a fee for service business.
When you look at the pompousness and greed of an institution that won’t pay its residential school compensation, then you can see you have a problem in your country. Tax them. If they go bankrupt, too bad.
They are businesses, plain and simple.

#121 Wrk.dover on 08.16.21 at 9:07 pm

Glad to be vaxed, but needing to carry my phone around to prove it, curly chord and all?

That’s too much over reach!

I phoneys are for vagrants and or drug dealers.

#122 Trojan House on 08.16.21 at 9:07 pm

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#123 canuck on 08.16.21 at 9:08 pm

People refusing the Covid vaccine are extending the pandemic. That is anti-social. Whether it is cowardice or selfishness which has brought you to this point matters not. You divided yourself from us through this poor and flawed decision. Get vaxed. – Garth
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How long were the previous pandemics(with no immediate vaccines like we have now, extended to?

Oooopps.

You mean the ones before mass travel? – Garth

#124 Drinking on 08.16.21 at 9:10 pm

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#125 I'm A Believer on 08.16.21 at 9:33 pm

#3 Millennial 1%er on 08.16.21 at 2:55 pm

I have business partners in Austin. We’ve discussed Toronto and Austin being similar high cost of living cities. However Austin is ripping with the tech sector; Dell, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Tesla, Amazon, and over 200 live music venues, etc. Businesses are leaving Cali for Austin. Sure the cost to live there is high, like Toronto, but quality of life is good. People are happy and businesses are doing very well. If I were in your position, I’d be heading there now too.

#126 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 9:41 pm

@#101 Ponzies Political Panderings
“Sometimes it’s hard to tell the bad guys from the good guys.”

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The bad guys have beards?

Errr except Garth

#127 fishman on 08.16.21 at 9:43 pm

Taxes eh. One of my buddies down at the wharf was a kid who grew up in his dad’s Saigon business during the American War. Charlie told me there was a tax collector who came around in the daytime, in a uniform, collecting taxes. There was another tax collector that came around at night. His dad paid both taxmen. Insisting only on written receipts from both men. Charlie’s tax advice? Pay your taxes & get a written receipt.

#128 Alpha Dog on 08.16.21 at 9:52 pm

Gee, thanks Justin. I just got your old geezers $500 payoff. You’re bribing us with our own money. I hope you don’t think this is going to cause me to vote Liberal. I wouldn’t vote for you and your party if it was $5,000 or 5 million. Come on folks, This is our last chance to get rid of this little weasel before he completely destroys this country!!

#129 Harry on 08.16.21 at 9:52 pm

I’m strongly conservative but this covid thing is like war and drastic measures needed – like mandatory vaxxing. Who the heck is giving O’toole his advice? He is trying to lose the election before it starts.

#130 UCC on 08.16.21 at 10:02 pm

#94 Shawn Allen on 08.16.21 at 6:50 pm
Draconian Irony

# 21 UCC on 08.16.21 at 3:36 pm said:
“Vaccine Passports to go to the gym or the local bar are draconian & totalitarian…

Solve the problem correctly. If the government (and the people) want everyone to be vaccinated, then pass a proper law making it mandatory. Place the pain on the un-vaccinated crowd. Give them two days to show up for their jab before a warrant is issue for their arrest. No passport require.”

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Sure, that would not be nearly as Draconian as showing a vaccine Passport, right? Maybe the post was meant to be sarcastic?
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Not sarcastic at all. I’m a fully vaccinate person and I don’t want passports in country. That totalitarian position by the government and it does not make sense. If the politicians want to make vaccines mandatory then pass a law to do so.

#131 Michael in-north-york on 08.16.21 at 10:07 pm

TFSA is a great tool, but I would tweak the rules a bit:

1. A lifetime contribution limit, say worth 20 of contributions at the yearly limit. 6K x 20 = 120K, not bad. If you withdraw, the withdrawn amount is added to your remaining limit.

This change wouldn’t have any practical effect until 20 years since TFSAs were first introduced, which is 2029 if I am not mistaken.

2. Tax the extremely high profits within TFSA, say if the profit for a given year exceeds 30%, the amount above 30% is added to the taxable income. This is just to make the administration easier and more predictable. As it happens now, Revenue Canada randomly picks on investors who achieve high profits in TFSA, and they have to prove that they use their TFSA for “saving” rather than “professional trading”. A set threshold would eliminate that kind of argument.

#132 Sail Away on 08.16.21 at 10:13 pm

#121 Wrk.dover on 08.16.21 at 9:07 pm

Glad to be vaxed, but needing to carry my phone around to prove it, curly chord and all?

That’s too much over reach!

I phoneys are for vagrants and or drug dealers.

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If you connect it through a dimmer switch, it lets you talk faster or slower.

#133 Doug t on 08.16.21 at 10:16 pm

TurnerNation for PM – heck why not at this point – I love this guy/them/they/it/tree/rock/whatever – GO TN

#134 Doug in London on 08.16.21 at 10:19 pm

Erin O’Toole opposes mandatory vaxing of federal employees and travelers.
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As I said before, wasn’t the Conservative party the ones who were pro business, and should want to get travel and commerce going again as soon as possible without the need for any more costly lockdowns? Did I miss something? It’s worth noting that if you want to do any international travel you’ll have to show proof of vaccination. If there was ever a chance I might vote Conservative, that’s lost now. Even the NDP have enough common sense to see that getting as many people vaccinated as possible is the ONLY way out of this ongoing pandemic.

#135 Sheesh on 08.16.21 at 10:23 pm

#85 Neo on 08.16.21 at 6:11 pm
I find it interesting that the past week since they started breaking down the data there are more fully vaccinated testing positive this summer than the same day total last year with noone in the population vaccinated. Three straight days of no deaths. That would apply to vaccinated and unvaccinated.

Aug. 16th 2021 -113 new cases – fully vaxxed…..

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Well, don’t stop there. How many cases were unvaxxed 2021?

Comparing to last year is ridiculous given that the variants weren’t doing their thing last summer.

#136 Delta says nope on 08.16.21 at 10:30 pm

#112 Lauren on 08.16.21 at 8:33 pm
@Garth:
“the pandemic will go on and on and on until the herd has immunity”

+70% of Canadians are fully vaccinated. We’ve already got heard immunity. No need for passports. It’s a done deal.

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70% isn’t going to cut it with the delta variant, because it is so much more infectious. Somewhere between 80 and 90% is the sweet spot now.

#137 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.16.21 at 10:35 pm

It’s not the vaccine passports I’m worried about, it’s what comes after…

Normalcy. – Garth

#138 Craig on 08.16.21 at 10:50 pm

Can’t believe all of the complaining in today’s blog about Canada . Recently Canada topped the list as the #1 country in the world for overall quality of life.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/canada-is-the-no-1-country-in-the-world-according-to-the-2021-best-countries-report-867033906.html

#139 Gonkman on 08.16.21 at 11:11 pm

#136 Delta says nope on 08.16.21 at 10:30 pm
#112 Lauren on 08.16.21 at 8:33 pm
@Garth:
“the pandemic will go on and on and on until the herd has immunity”

+70% of Canadians are fully vaccinated. We’ve already got heard immunity. No need for passports. It’s a done deal.

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70% isn’t going to cut it with the delta variant, because it is so much more infectious. Somewhere between 80 and 90% is the sweet spot now.
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Try again.. You only have 4-6 Months left depending on your last shot.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/health-pmn/u-s-to-advise-covid-19-booster-shots-8-months-after-vaccination-nyt

“The administration of U.S. President Joe Biden has decided that most Americans should get a booster shot of a COVID-19 vaccine eight months after they completed their initial vaccination, the New York Times reported on Monday, citing two administration officials familiar with the discussions.

Officials are planning to announce the administration’s decision as early as this week, NYT said adding that it could begin offering the extra shots as early as mid-September.”

You will need your booster soon enough.

Don’t worry though Trudeau already bought us all shots for the next 3 years. You just need to line up every 8 months to keep your passport.

You also might want to look into what is happening in Israel now. Its our future in 4-6months. They went first and are 80% Vaxed. They are already starting round 3 of shots for Seniors.

#140 PastThePeak on 08.16.21 at 11:25 pm

Vaccine passports huh. Sounds simple at first, but where is the line drawn? People don’t think it through.

Bar the unvaccinated from grocery stores, the pharmacy? Dentist and medical offices?

Basically say you are hereby banned from life?

Never has been contemplated before with much more serious illnesses – but now is the time? For vaccines that are not even close to “one and done”?

Before ol’ Garth the Wise deletes this post – I am fully vaccinated as I believe it was the best choice for myself and my family. He’ll probably delete it anyways…

#141 Robert Ash on 08.16.21 at 11:48 pm

It will amaze me, if Canadians, vote for their own demise, and give the Libranos a Majority. What amazes me more is the Stupidity of the Conservative party of Canada. It is like they want the Libs to win… I only read the first paragraph, and couldn’t believe it… It was almost as incredulous, as allowing the PQ Quebec Dairy farmers, to manipulate their Leadership convention.

#142 AM in MN on 08.16.21 at 11:51 pm

#129 Harry on 08.16.21 at 9:52 pm

I’m strongly conservative but this covid thing is like war and drastic measures needed – like mandatory vaxxing.

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What does that mean, to be “strongly conservative”?

Many who consider themselves to be conservative include those who have an appreciation for our ancient rights and freedoms, that were fought so hard for by our ancestors.

This includes the right to do business, the right to private contracts basically. It is not just a desire for a quick buck, such that it’s worth surrendering such ancient rights to the health care Karens of the technocracy.

Such rights include the right to private property, don’t think that isn’t also under assault by the same technocrats that just want what’s best for everyone.

If you want a scientific debate, how about finding a way to test for antibodies for the whole population? As someone who would engage in a scientific debate with anyone of these issues, or any other scientific issue, I would say that I have yet to come across the issue that would make me think we’d live in a better world without individual rights.

My eyes were opened many years ago when I read Frederick Hayek’s “The Road to Serfdom”. Written during WWII no less, as someone who slogged through many a physics and math class, to read that the greatest threat to our freedoms and liberties was from the Scientists, it took me a long time to understand and accept.

Anyone living today has a front row seat.

#143 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.17.21 at 12:02 am

#137 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.16.21 at 10:35 pm

It’s not the vaccine passports I’m worried about, it’s what comes after…

Normalcy. – Garth

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You assume that herd immunity is possible and that passports will incentivize enough anti-vaxers to get jabbed in order to achieve it.

So it begs the question, if herd immunity is still not reached and it’s blamed on the unvaccinated, what will be the next “incentive” to those who still refuse?

#144 TheDood on 08.17.21 at 12:15 am

#138 Craig on 08.16.21 at 10:50 pm
Can’t believe all of the complaining in today’s blog about Canada . Recently Canada topped the list as the #1 country in the world for overall quality of life.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/canada-is-the-no-1-country-in-the-world-according-to-the-2021-best-countries-report-867033906.html
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I think it depends on perspective.

If you’re healthy, free of debt, working in a job you like, have money to do the things you like, and generally moving forward in life, Canada can be a good place to live. This is not the case for the majority.

In my opinion, the country could be much more if the populace took more interest in and had the means to hold elected leaders accountable to their election promises and their duties of office. All we have is one recourse – a vote in the next election, which isn’t enough.

#145 Hurtin' Albertan on 08.17.21 at 12:37 am

Wow, is CPC pro-union now? They promise to:

Level the playing field between unions and multinationals by consulting with union leaders and then implementing changes to the Canada Labour Code to remove barriers that prevent unions from organizing against large employers with a history of anti-labour activity.

Work with unions to modernize the Canada Labour Code to provide more flexibility in working hours and working from home.

Give unions standing at the Canada International Trade Tribunal to allow them to bring actions on issues like dumping.

#146 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.17.21 at 12:41 am

#111 Sail Away on 08.16.21 at 8:23 pm
#40 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.16.21 at 4:12 pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/16/five-children-injured-tesla-crashes-school-car-park/

:#:#:#:#:#

No, silly. This fraud is the sudden unintended acceleration that Tesla refuses to issue a recall for. However, according to Elon, all newish Teslas are equipped for “self-driving”. I would have thought that would include child maiming avoidance sensors. Guess not.

The school is an elite, private one. Litigious no doubt. Politically connected perhaps. Barring a fine-print NDA (Tesla is famous for them) we shall find out. Regardless, mysterious flood of 0DTE-OTM calls coming to a Friday near you. Enjoy the blood money. You’ve earned it.

#147 Robert Ash on 08.17.21 at 12:42 am

Zer Splat is correct, are these Campaign people crazy?

#148 Investx on 08.17.21 at 12:57 am

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#149 Not a precedent on 08.17.21 at 1:01 am

“We have driver’s licenses and seatbelt laws so why can’t we have vaccine passports?”

“Vaccine passports will never lead to further medical requirements for you to be allowed to live in society you conspiracy lunatic”

Same people.

#150 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.17.21 at 1:15 am

#126 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 9:41 pm
@#101 Ponzies Political Panderings
“Sometimes it’s hard to tell the bad guys from the good guys.”

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The bad guys have beards?

Errr except Garth
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Haha
Lots of beards and beer bellies amongst the Proud Boys.
And some with Viking Horns.

#151 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.17.21 at 1:51 am

These are pretty telling numbers about COVID patients in Alberta.
91% of ICU patients are un-vaxxed.
Get your jabs, Cowboys
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There were 161 Albertans in hospital with COVID-19 as of Monday, including 43 in ICU.
“Of the 118 non-ICU, 76.3 per cent are unvaccinated and 7.5 per cent partially vaccinated,” Dr. Deena Hinshaw tweeted. “Of the 43 in ICU, 90.7 per cent are unvaccinated and 4.7 per cent partially vaccinated.”

#152 Mr Opinion on 08.17.21 at 2:40 am

Picked this up from reddit:

My parents are co-owners on my house, I could not qualify for the mortgage alone, so on the deed and docs it is all 3 of our names.

I paid the down payment and made all of the mortgage payments, and paid off more than 100K, there is still 60K owing, but the house could be listed for sale for 400K.

Because of the hot market my parents are seeking legal advice on how or if they can force a sale, and I think they can, but I do not want to sell, I won’t have anywhere to go, and can’t afford anything else in this market.

As you were saying next buy a house with someone you don’t share the bed with

Can anyone tell me the likelihood of a forced sale, and how the money would be split? Would I at least get back what I paid against the mortgage? There is no prior written agreements.

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvicecanada/comments/p5te41/coowners_want_to_sell_the_house_i_live_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

#153 Howard on 08.17.21 at 4:39 am

#87 Hurtin’ Albertan on 08.16.21 at 6:19 pm
forgot to add the CPC promise to pump nearly 1 billion in to the hospitality and tourism sector by providing “a 50% rebate for food and non-alcoholic drinks purchased for dine-in from Monday to Wednesday for one month once it is safe to do so”

waiting for Trudeau and Jagmeet to up the bidding

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Yeah that restaurant rebate idea from the Conservatives is idiotic.

But, do you notice a theme in the Conservative payouts versus Liberal? Conservative handouts, dumb though they are, tend to be universal. Every Canadian can take advantage of it. This was true during the Harper years too. Not the case with Liberal handouts which only go to their preferred groups (old people, homeowners, low-income parents, for example).

#154 Howard on 08.17.21 at 4:41 am

#84 Don Guillermo on 08.16.21 at 6:04 pm
“Jagmeet Singh’s wife wears $1,124 dress for maternity shoot as the NDP plans to tax ‘luxury goods”

Hahah, another hypocrite fighting for the middle class family.

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That doesn’t make sense.

How is he a hypocrite because his wife wears an expensive dress? Is he arguing that his wife should be exempt from the luxury goods tax?

#155 Howard on 08.17.21 at 4:48 am

#60 Concerned Citizen on 08.16.21 at 5:06 pm

Your comments about 50% inclusion for investment income would be valid if Canada weren’t giving a massive freebie to people who won the birth year lottery (or have rich parents) through the principal residence exemption.

Oh, so homeowners pay nothing on their gains but rent-and-invest types pay full price?

#156 Wrk.dover on 08.17.21 at 5:46 am

#132 Sail Away on 08.16.21 at 10:13 pm
#121 Wrk.dover on 08.16.21 at 9:07 pm

Glad to be vaxed, but needing to carry my phone around to prove it, curly chord and all?

That’s too much over reach!

I phoneys are for vagrants and or drug dealers.

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If you connect it through a dimmer switch, it lets you talk faster or slower.
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33 rpm is already my speed, though I seem to remember record players with 16 as well as the 45 and 78 jitterbug settings.

Fast talk is jive. Biden told me so!

#157 bruce on 08.17.21 at 8:18 am

If the PC leader is anti mandatory vax he just lost my vote. Always curious what these idiot anti vaxers propose for a solution. Make it mandatory and those who refuse can live on Sable Island watching Trump on You Tube.

#158 Sail Away on 08.17.21 at 8:23 am

#146 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.17.21 at 12:41 am

This fraud is the sudden unintended acceleration that Tesla refuses to issue a recall for. However, according to Elon, all newish Teslas are equipped for “self-driving”. I would have thought that would include child maiming avoidance sensors. Guess not.

The school is an elite, private one. Litigious no doubt. Politically connected perhaps. Barring a fine-print NDA (Tesla is famous for them) we shall find out. Regardless, mysterious flood of 0DTE-OTM calls coming to a Friday near you. Enjoy the blood money. You’ve earned it.

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Now you’re just making things up. Sad!

“Tesla incidents of ‘accelerating by themselves’ were due to driver using wrong pedal, NHTSA says”

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/8/22220714/tesla-sudden-acceleration-nhtsa-dot-investigation-data-review

#159 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.17.21 at 8:26 am

@#101 Ponzies Pals Power Plays

Haha
Lots of beards and beer bellies amongst the Proud Boys.

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Exactly.
It isn’t just the knuckleheads in the Taliban that grow scruffy, ratty beards, carry guns, and gather in undisciplined, uneducated mobs.

Although the Talib aren’t morbidly obese.

#160 Diamond Dog on 08.17.21 at 8:30 am

Thinking about the election to come and it may well come down to British Columbian’s as king makers! What is currently on the mind of Canadians out west? Fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-bJzk2gbeE

Fires have taken a good bite out of BC’s southern interior this year. Looking at BC’s stat’s as of August 16th, some 811,292 hectares have burned:

http://bcfireinfo.for.gov.bc.ca/hprScripts/WildfireNews/Statistics.asp

BC’s 2017 fire season witnessed 1.2 million hectares (1.3% of total area of province) burned only to be outdone by 2018’s 1.35 million hectares burned (1.4% of the province), now standing as their worst fire season in recorded history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_British_Columbia_wildfires

6 of the last 11 years have been BC’s worst in recorded history if one counts this year. The third worst fire season in BC was in 1958, with 2,100,000 acres burned, or 811,000 hectares. As of today or tomorrow, 2021 will take place in history as BC’s 3rd worst fire season with a month or more to go.

Will it effect how British Columbians vote when they are surrounded by forests and their 3 worst fire seasons (by a lot) just happened in the last 5 years? Every year there’s a fire season, but nothing like this. Same can be said for the whole west coast… Australia’s turn last year…

Currently, Siberian wildfires are shaping up to be the largest in the history of civilization, although most wouldn’t know it. Green peace Russia has estimated Siberian wildfires at 13.4 million hectares or 34.7 million acres. The Taiga Siberian wildfires of 2003 burned 51 million acres according to Greenpeace Russia in 2003, also known as the world’s largest known wildfires burned in the history of civilization. Until the magnitude of Australia’s wildfires last year, nothing came close to this. We don’t read the Moscow times or witness all of Russia and eastern Europe under smoke so we don’t notice but what is happening is unprecedented:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/08/12/siberian-wildfire-could-become-biggest-in-recorded-history-greenpeace-a74762

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/08/14/putin-alarmed-over-unprecedented-natural-disasters-in-russia-a74788

I live in SW Sask and I’m tired of the smoke. It’s not normal. 5 years of summers filled with smoke, dense enough to irritate your lungs and throat, burn your eyes, and you look out to see red suns and red moons and crop failures (time for a video of the choked up farmer):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXlMCMGqijg

#161 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.17.21 at 8:42 am

@#127 fishman

Does Charlie surf?

#162 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.17.21 at 8:46 am

@#160 Diamond Dog
“Will it effect how British Columbians vote when they are surrounded by forests and their 3 worst fire seasons (by a lot) just happened in the last 5 years? Every year there’s a fire season, but nothing like this.”

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Get used to it.
The new “normal”
I’m thinking the Interior of BC will be known as the “Smokanogan” moving forward.

Another decade of this and you wont be able to give away your recreation property anywhere in the interior.
And good luck booking tourists to offset the property/fire fighting tax.

#163 Polozified on 08.17.21 at 9:22 am

Let’s paraphrase Hunter Thompson for a moment:

“And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable NDP victory over the forces of Liberal and Conservative. Not by any kind of negative politics; Jack Layton didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful Orange wave. . . .

So now, less than ten years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Ottawa and look East, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark — that place where the NDP finally broke, and rolled back.”

#164 the jaguar on 08.17.21 at 9:24 am

@ Ponzie
It’s not the cowboys. It’s the religious people. The non mainstream ones…….

#165 Roy's your boy on 08.17.21 at 9:25 am

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#166 KLNR on 08.17.21 at 9:35 am

@#138 Craig on 08.16.21 at 10:50 pm
Can’t believe all of the complaining in today’s blog about Canada . Recently Canada topped the list as the #1 country in the world for overall quality of life.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/canada-is-the-no-1-country-in-the-world-according-to-the-2021-best-countries-report-867033906.html

some folks just go out of their way to be miserable.
not unlike some woke folks, its a mania with them.

#167 IHCTD9 on 08.17.21 at 9:37 am

#153 Howard on 08.17.21 at 4:39 am

Yeah that restaurant rebate idea from the Conservatives is idiotic.

But, do you notice a theme in the Conservative payouts versus Liberal? Conservative handouts, dumb though they are, tend to be universal. Every Canadian can take advantage of it. This was true during the Harper years too. Not the case with Liberal handouts which only go to their preferred groups (old people, homeowners, low-income parents, for example).
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The worst thing that has ever happened to young people and new Canadians in Canada – is Trudeau.

I say that as a born Canadian who is no longer young – but getting richer by the day because I got off and running under *real* Liberals and Mr. Harper, so I was set up well before Trudeau got voted in by us idiots.

I feel bad for anyone just starting out today, Canada will never again be the great place to thrive it once was – all thanks to Trudeau and his goof caucus.

#168 Penny Henny on 08.17.21 at 9:42 am

To some it seems it’s all about money. Thanks but freedom ranks right up there too. Say no to vaccine passports.
What’s next?
Maybe your vaccine passport will only allow you to go to a grocery store once a week.

The purpose of the passport is to force the unvaccinated to deal with their mental issues and get vaxed. – Garth

#169 Jesse on 08.17.21 at 9:43 am

If T2 wins, the wealthy are out, Nomad Capitalist style.

Go to countries that treat you best.

#170 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.17.21 at 9:43 am

#164 the jaguar on 08.17.21 at 9:24 am
@ Ponzie
It’s not the cowboys. It’s the religious people. The non mainstream ones…….
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My apologies.
Though a big shot American Cardinal who was a rabid COVID denier is in ICU.
And asking his flock to pray for him.
Strange days, indeed.

#171 Calgary Rip Off on 08.17.21 at 10:00 am

If the general public looks at actual medical data on covid, such as mass general grand rounds https://www.massgeneral.org/news/coronavirus/grand-rounds or https://www.cell.com/COVID-19
what is clear is that there is no definitive treatment yet for Covid 19.

Do vaccines work? Yes the data says yes. Data also shows that the Delta Variant risk is lessened by current Covid 19 vaccines. A coworker’s brother in law, age 49, two doses of Pfizer 3 months ago, caught Delta while travelling in northern Spain. His wife caught Delta but had no symptoms. After 2 weeks on 15 Liters/minute oxygen and a running saturation of 75% this man after successful treatment with steroids in a Paris hospital is now recovering with oxygen 2 L/min. This man has been at the equivalent of Mount Everest for two weeks. It is speculated if he were not vaccinated he would be dead.

This being said, if vaccines are highly effective, the goal of many to force vaccines on others seems a bit excessive. Why? Legal issues of forcing a vaccine with zero long term data. 3 months is not long term data.

There are so many unknowns in Covid 19 management. There are many correlations with certain things such as blood types, vitamin C and D3 levels, inherent immunity, the links above provide actual data on current studies as well as previous patient’s experiences(mass general, Harvard).

Medicine remains an art, not a science, and as such it is influenced by human factors such as litigation and peer pressure when managed by physicians. How do I know? I work in a hospital.

I hope someone actual reads the data in the above websites rather than being swayed either by mainstream media or anti vaccination speculation, both sources of which are not peer reviewed.

@24 Hurtin Albertan: Simple solution: Get vaccinated with 2 doses of a Covid Vaccine, preferably an mRNA type. Wear a mask out shopping. Exercise. Cold showers. Wim Hof breathing exercises. Sleep/rest. High Vitamin D3 and C levels along with a multivitamin. Lastly, dont worry. Mortality is not if but when, dont worry about it.

There is no solution to Covid as shown by individual response both to vaccination and immune response to Delta post vaccination. I expect Covid to be around at least another 5 years, more likely 10 or more.

#172 Doug in London on 08.17.21 at 10:24 am

I remember watching a documentary show about the Titanic, the ship that became famous for the wrong reason. When the captain saw they were on a collision course with an iceberg he attempted to turn to avoid it. Instead of hitting it straight on, it ripped a long hole in the side. If he hit it straight on, the ship would have been damaged but probably not sank. I think when Erin O’Toole said he would oppose mandatory vaxing of federal employees and travelers, that was like when the captain turned the wheel and sealed the fate of the once great ship.

#173 IHCTD9 on 08.17.21 at 10:29 am

So I figure even though the Libs seem to be losing a bit of support, that they will still ultimately win another 4 year mandate. Thinking on this, I have a few solid predictions:

1. Housing prices will shoot up even more. Trudeau has well demonstrated his willingness to watch this happen while doing nothing about it.

2. Our resource sectors will still do business with a set of hand-cuffs and ball and chain attached.

3. Billions upon Billions more will be borrowed and spent on pure $h!t and in foreign countries to no good end for anyone.

4. Our debt levels and servicing costs will test uncharted waters, going where no Canadian taxpayer has gone before.

5. Revenue issues galore as Trudeau will pander his way to pathetic increases, or zero net increase. He simply doesn’t have the [email protected]$ to do what needs to be done to fix the gaping hole he has blown in the hull of her majesty’s good ship “The Canadian”.

6. Foot to the floor inflation. Suffering for young and new Canadians just starting out, who have no choice but to pay the increasing costs of essentials.

7. The undermining of a generation will be sealed. Eventually, revenues will have to rise, the debt will need to be serviced, and we know the government under Trudeau will only bloat and get more expensive. The budget didn’t balance itself – look at what we got instead. Young millennials on down the line will get to support everything. The higher CPP deductions, the higher CCB payments, the debt interest, the free pharma, the free daycare, the free… everything. All the new taxes and fees, and even more income taxes if you have been successful. All while trying to avoid getting trapped in the gig economy, never owning a house, and paying more for everything than just about any other country in the world. Plus y’all get to listen to him apologize and blubber over any and every perceived social injustice ever committed in the history of peoplekind.

Sail Away and I will be sitting in the shade watching with a couple cold ones, a few smoked graylings and a side of sautéed wild mushrooms recalling how good Canada was to us, and just how much things have changed.

You want this fixed? Pain is the only answer. The longer we wait, the worse it’s gonna be. But only for those under 40…

#174 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.17.21 at 10:48 am

More Tesla death

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/business/tesla-autopilot-accident.html

#175 Dharma Bum on 08.17.21 at 11:00 am

Jail ’em all for life.

That’s merciful.

#176 Just 2 Weeks on 08.17.21 at 11:16 am

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#177 Quintilian on 08.17.21 at 11:24 am

#172 Doug in London

“ that was like when the captain turned the wheel and sealed the fate of the once great ship”

The cons have been nothing but a wreck since the nutbars(Reformers ) infestation.

#178 James on 08.17.21 at 11:26 am

#23 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 3:39 pm

Hmmm.
Trudeaus’ 20,000 Afghan refugees is looking more like 500

NEVER overestimate the ability of Canadian bureaucrats to drop the ball in a rapidly changing situation.

The Americans announce they were pulling out 6 MONTHS ago…..
One wonders how many e-mails, Zoom meetings , calls and face to face the govt Mandarins had to decide if the curtains on the evac planes would be pink, blue or gender neutral grey…?

Well the Afghani Canadian Military interpreters being shot dead on 6pm News over the next few weeks should cost the Libs a few votes….

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/08/16/otoole-trudeau-afghanistan-evacuations/
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Trudeau knows nothing about fighting for your life in a war or being hunted and persecuted. He is a lousy weak politician who has never had to fight for anything in his life. I guess the leaf doesn’t fall far from the tree, T1 was a communism lover and evaded service in WW2.

https://torontosun.com/2017/08/27/if-john-a-macdonald-has-to-go-why-not-pierre-trudeau-too

#179 Mehling on 08.17.21 at 11:40 am

https://vancouversun.com/news/politics/election-2021/as-millennials-fall-out-of-love-with-trudeau-liberals-need-to-stop-the-bleed-towards-the-ndp

“As millennials fall out of love with Trudeau, Liberals need to stop the bleed towards the NDP”

#180 Investx on 08.17.21 at 11:56 am

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#181 Planetgoofy on 08.17.21 at 12:13 pm

#169 Jesse on 08.17.21 at 9:43 am
If T2 wins, the wealthy are out, Nomad Capitalist style.
Go to countries that treat you best.
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All of thats been tried and failed….Politicians are too stupid to figure that out.
All that maters the virtue signalling that gets you 4.
Extend and pretend.

#182 Sail Away on 08.17.21 at 12:39 pm

#174 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.17.21 at 10:48 am

More Tesla death

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/business/tesla-autopilot-accident.html

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Sigh. Sensationalist clickbait, more like.

That was a 2019 crash when the driver was crawling around under the dash looking for his phone at full speed when the road ended.

#183 Planetgoofy on 08.17.21 at 12:47 pm

#174 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.17.21 at 10:48 am
More Tesla death
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People are too ignorant for self driving cars.
Because they are ignorant they put their full faith in automation…..then something goes wrong and POOF! Your wearing a telephone pole
You can have the self driving autos.
The Nissan Leaf PLUS is a better car. Likely one of the most reliable ever made. It has just enough bells and whistles which I use none of. I’ll do that driving as always.

#184 HeHe on 08.17.21 at 12:52 pm

@#173 IHCTD9 on 08.17.21 at 10:29 am

Sail Away and I will be sitting in the shade watching with a couple cold ones, a few smoked graylings and a side of sautéed wild mushrooms recalling how good Canada was to us, and just how much things have changed.

Every generation has a couple old fellas lamenting how great it used to be.

#185 Damifino on 08.17.21 at 12:54 pm

#172 Doug in London

Thank you for your depressing analogy between the O’Toole campaign and the Titanic. I hope you’re wrong, but fear you are probably correct.

My next hope is Jagmeet. Can he siphon off enough votes (and seats) to hold the Libs to a minority? Hopefully, an even smaller one? Such are the faint hopes I cling to in these mad times.

If I lived in Quebec, I’d even cast an anglophone vote for the Bloc Québécois if it would help thwart a Liberal majority.

#186 Mike Holt on 08.17.21 at 1:03 pm

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#187 Planetgoofy on 08.17.21 at 1:09 pm

I supported Trump just was very disappointed in his inability to keep his potty mouth shut.
Anyway I knew this would happen. Biden is a complete failure already. Many Americans I know are choked on his boarder policy…or there lack of one.
Good fricken luck to the Biden folks. As I said ACTIONs and results are far more important that words.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/biden-isn-t-trump-disaster-014526209.html

#188 UCC on 08.17.21 at 1:16 pm

The purpose of the passport is to force the unvaccinated to deal with their mental issues and get vaxed. – Garth

So you’re okay slapping the good guys? It’s backwards Garth. Punish the unvaccinated not the vaccinated. Passports don’t solve anything, but punish the wrong crowd under the belief that it does good. It does not.

#189 Kootenay Hippe on 08.17.21 at 1:25 pm

If the RRSP contribution room is reduced, it would only be fair that a drop in defined benefit pension plan also occurs. The employee + employer contribution can already be above the 18% threshold. This is a fiscal injustice for the vast majority of people not part of such a plan. Hopefully it does not become even more unfair.

#190 When idiot politicians lose their minds on 08.17.21 at 1:38 pm

Yesterday, some Australian official decreed that citizens are not allowed to take their masks off outside to consume alcohol. Today, the President of New Zealand orders citizens *not to talk to their neighbors*.

They seem demented, oblivious to the costs of sustained isolation.

#191 Tron Light on 08.17.21 at 1:42 pm

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#192 Morn on 08.17.21 at 1:47 pm

Would it be possible to keep the reduced inclusion rate for the first $100k or so and then treat anything above that as regular income?

#193 Planetgoofy on 08.17.21 at 1:48 pm

#182 Sail Away on 08.17.21 at 12:39 pm
#174 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.17.21 at 10:48 am
More Tesla death
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/business/tesla-autopilot-accident.html
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Sigh. Sensationalist clickbait, more like.
That was a 2019 crash when the driver was crawling around under the dash looking for his phone at full speed when the road ended.
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LOL like I said Sail…..people are too ignorant.
We still have pilots for reason.

#194 Diamond Dog on 08.17.21 at 1:52 pm

#162 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.17.21 at 8:46 am

Get used to it.
The new “normal”
I’m thinking the Interior of BC will be known as the “Smokanogan” moving forward.

Another decade of this and you wont be able to give away your recreation property anywhere in the interior.
And good luck booking tourists to offset the property/fire fighting tax. – cef

Yeah… unfortunately have to agree with what you said. The only good news is it won’t burn twice but once is enough. Who wants to live next to a burnt hillside? Fire insurance will start going nutty to buy if one can get it. Disruption is frequent and it’s getting dangerous just to live there.

BC is largely forest. If it burns, it takes a long time to come back and BC has what, lost 2.7% of it’s province in 2017 & 18, will lose what looks like 1% or more this year, has BC lost close to 5% of it’s landscape to fires in the last 5 years? How is any of this sustainable.

Couple this with the fire seasons of Washington, Oregon and California, the Colorado River is drying up:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/weather/colorado-river-flow-dwindling-warming-temperatures-climate-change/index.html

The snow pack feeding the river just isn’t there like before with less snow and earlier melts thanks to climate change. Another La Nina predicted for this winter, good times.

#195 Whackadoodle on 08.17.21 at 1:57 pm

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#196 ImGonnaBeSick on 08.17.21 at 2:01 pm

#184 HeHe on 08.17.21 at 12:52 pm
@#173 IHCTD9 on 08.17.21 at 10:29 am

Sail Away and I will be sitting in the shade watching with a couple cold ones, a few smoked graylings and a side of sautéed wild mushrooms recalling how good Canada was to us, and just how much things have changed.

Every generation has a couple old fellas lamenting how great it used to be.

Is it getting better?

#197 James on 08.17.21 at 2:07 pm

#185 Damifino on 08.17.21 at 12:54 pm

#172 Doug in London

Thank you for your depressing analogy between the O’Toole campaign and the Titanic. I hope you’re wrong, but fear you are probably correct.

My next hope is Jagmeet. Can he siphon off enough votes (and seats) to hold the Libs to a minority? Hopefully, an even smaller one? Such are the faint hopes I cling to in these mad times.

If I lived in Quebec, I’d even cast an anglophone vote for the Bloc Québécois if it would help thwart a Liberal majority.
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T2 will most likely come out with a minority hopefully even less seats than at present. Thanks to the idiot in Ottawa he will be spending our tax dollars for his own vanity.

#198 espressobob on 08.17.21 at 2:20 pm

Polio and smallpox survivors would probably admonish the anti vax crowd with some serious language, and rightly so.

Ignorance it seems, is a freedom, a certain minority justifies.

#199 Do you get it now? on 08.17.21 at 2:57 pm

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#200 the jaguar on 08.17.21 at 3:00 pm

Warning shots being fired over the heads of the not yet committed folk by large employers. You have to admire their tactics. They put on the Mr. Rogers fireside chat sweater, but they’ve got the Luger tucked in their rear waistband. The importance of being earnest. “We care about your feelings and welfare”. Now get your ass vaxxed on the double or it’ll be on the street in the unemployment line”!
Never mind Erin, the Singh guy, or T2. It’s those corporate guys and ancient warriors who will hold up the staff and part the Red Sea before your very eyes….?
Awesome.

#201 Prediction Guy on 08.17.21 at 3:07 pm

Housing inventory at record lows.

Urban prices are going to explode higher.

Very few homes will change hands but those that do will be astronomically priced.

And that might be the blow off top that finally gets the Bank of Canada to stop talking and do something. Maybe.

#202 Faron on 08.17.21 at 3:18 pm

#174 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.17.21 at 10:48 am

More Tesla death

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/business/tesla-autopilot-accident.html

Ha, wow. Autopilot is/leads to steaming garbage.

#203 enthalpy on 08.17.21 at 4:21 pm

Other countries with higher vax rates have reported no such heard immunity.

It doesnt look plausible.

#204 Doug in London on 08.17.21 at 10:01 pm

@Quintilian, post #177:
You’ve got that right, couldn’t agree more. I think this Reformer infestation are a bunch of back country hicks that were dragged, kicking and screaming into the 20th century. I doubt they’ve yet clued into the fact we’re now into the 21st century.

@enthalpy, post #203:
Because this Delta variant is so much more contagious, the estimate is at least 90% need to be vaccinated to get herd immunity. Don’t bother trying to tell that to the anti vaxxer nutcases in Aylmer, Ontario. At last count, in this town only 44% were vaccinated. That’s a sure recipe for a dandy 4th wave and will be further proof Mr. Darwin was right about natural selection.

#205 Steven Rowlandson on 08.18.21 at 12:42 pm

DELETED. Do that again and you are gone forever. – Garth

#206 Steven Rowlandson on 08.18.21 at 1:04 pm

” “We care about your feelings and welfare”. Now get your ass vaxxed on the double or it’ll be on the street in the unemployment line”!”

Nice try! The first rule in dealing with extortionists is to tell them to go to hell as they are not going any where else. In this case the second step short of killing them privately would be to charge them with Genocide under the genocide convention , convict the buggers and string em up! All nice and legal. There isn’t a lot of difference between injecting a pathogen or pathogen creating gene therapy and gassing, shooting, stabbing, poisoning or hanging an innocent person on purpose.
It is genocide.