The vote

As a certain pathetic but avuncular blog told you some time ago, we’d be voting in September. And we are. In thirty-six days, which is the shortest possible campaign.

Some might wonder why the Libs would risk it. After all, the last vote was just in 2019 (when we were all so naïve and cute) and Trudeau can stay in office for another year or two at least since the oppo guys won’t win a non-confidence vote. The poll numbers aren’t exactly brilliant right now for the T2 gang. A Nik Nanos survey Friday gave Mr. Socks 33%, down almost six points from when the Fourth Wave started. No majority government there. The CBC’s poll tracker clocks in higher – over 35% for the Liberals, but still no guarantee of 170 seats.

In short, this is not as slam-dunky as it looked just a while ago. Covid is back. Economic reopenings in places like Alberta and Ontario (big announcement on Tuesday) are being walked back. And just when life was getting a little more peaceful, now we have a federal election. In a pandemic. With as many as 5 million mail-in ballots expected, and big advance poll turn-outs, it will be anything but routine. Which side will benefit from that?

Nanos suggests voters are ticked off by the stunt. “It’s like – Canadians were okay with the Liberals and the pandemic response, but the election is about the Liberals trying to win a majority as opposed to serving Canadians,” he told the Globe. And the PM reaffirmed this on Sunday, suggesting voters should support him because we’re doing so great with being vaxed.

What happens?

The numbers suggest another minority. But things can change fast. Emotions are elevated. Just look at how this blog lights up every time we talk about inoculations, vax passports or what a ding-dong Max Bernier is. Meanwhile nobody knows what Delta will do, especially in the US where the big reopening trade on Wall Street could be impacted. Crisis ennui is a powerful thing. Recall how Winston Churchill won WW2 and then was punted by British voters.

The Conservatives? Erin O’Toole has virtually no profile and was probably the wrong guy for the Tories to pick. But in Canada we don’t vote for certain people. We vote against other people. O’Toole’s biggest attribute is not being Justin Trudeau. That may be enough.

And what about the economy, money, finances, housing, financial markets and jobs? A lot of folks are motivated these days by the realization Liberal spending has been off the charts, deficits are tax time bombs and there’s no possible way we can grow out of this mess unscathed. It was interesting that Bloomberg carried a piece on Friday about the (likely) inevitable post-vote taxation of some TFSA assets, increases in the capital gains inclusion rate, higher personal marginal rates and a review of tax-free house profits. Anyone who thinks a re-elected Chrystia Freeland will not drop the hammer in the Spring is dozy.

What about the other parties?

The Bloc will do okay, it seems. That hurts the Liberals who otherwise would sweep Quebec. The NDP looks likely to retain its 20% of the popular vote as Jagmeet works the TikTok crowd relentlessly, promises pharmacare, free tuition, says he will Hoover wealthy people, give everyone a UBI and build houses for the moisters. All fiction. But it gets support. The Greens are so gone. Maybe one seat. Max won’t win his own, just sucking off 2% from the Cons. Without getting vaxed, Bernier can’t even get on a plane to campaign. Loser all round.

Trudeau is banking on winning, of course, bolstered by the fact pandemic elections in a bunch of provinces have rewarded incumbents. (However, NS votes on Tuesday and the Lib premier seems to be on the ropes.) In general Canadians have supported their leaders, providing a tacit thumbs-up on the Covid effort.

But a long 18 months after the virus shut Canada down, patience is wearing thin.

We have real estate average people can’t afford, hollowed-out cities, social unrest causing statues to fall and churches to burn, wild fires and climate fears, a trillion in debt, historic deficits and politicians who can’t stop spending. Anyone with kids, contemplating where taxes will head or the climate mutates, faces a daunting choice on September 20th. Nothing is normal. Leadership and vision seem in short supply. And this election smells opportunistic.

About the picture: “Enjoy your blog – long time reader,” writes John. ” This is our dog Teebo trying to figure out who to vote for – such great choices. Dogs – big and small just gotta love them all.”

178 comments ↓

#1 Felix on 08.15.21 at 2:41 pm

You found him!

There’s the dogawful mutt who stole your flag, Mr. Turner.

Figures…..

#2 ew2rd on 08.15.21 at 2:47 pm

This is when the writ hit’s the fan

#3 Splash Park on 08.15.21 at 2:48 pm

“In general Canadians have supported their leaders, providing a tacit thumbs-up on the Covid effort.”

You obviously haven’t been to Alberta lately

#4 Cheese on 08.15.21 at 2:49 pm

Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon
Going to the candidates’ debate
Laugh about it, shout about it
When you’ve got to choose
Every way you look at it you lose

-Simon and Garfunkel, Mrs.Robinson

#5 JSS on 08.15.21 at 2:51 pm

Like it or not, JT gonna win!

#6 Proud CERBian on 08.15.21 at 2:52 pm

All Hail CERBia!

My nation must continue forever. Everyone must vote for the most CERBian party, no exceptions.

#7 Flop... on 08.15.21 at 2:54 pm

I see that the Conservative Sturdy Slogan for the next election is ‘Secure The Future’.

The horse has already left the barn.

Secure The Scraps…

M47BC

#8 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.15.21 at 3:00 pm

Trudeau is basically saying that this is a referrendum on the tyranny that is about to ensue… Before we go down this path, he is giving us one last chance to remove consent.

Choose wisely because there are no refunds. God speed, Canada.

#9 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.15.21 at 3:04 pm

*referendum

#10 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 3:06 pm

Well, I’ll do my part to punt Chrystia.

Even though the Cons will also take lots of my money, at least they won’t be doing as part of a Grand Social Experiment.

#11 Paddy on 08.15.21 at 3:07 pm

Higher taxation is a certainty come next year, unless I’m missing something here…..the “tax the rich” mob will be out in full force for sure.

#12 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 3:08 pm

“avuncular blog”

Well, most of your “seasoned” Commenters aren’t that’s for sure.

I miss using that word. So much so, I had to look it up.

Thanks Garth.

#13 Madame Defarge on 08.15.21 at 3:09 pm

“Off with his head”

Conservatives – Win
NDP (No Down Payment party) – second
Liberal Turds – Last

ManChild, walks in the snow in Dec., trips over himself and after a few mmmm, ooohh, ands, decides to leave politics, same manner that T1 did.

#14 Woke up this morning... on 08.15.21 at 3:13 pm

Garth, nothing about O’Toole and his carrot only approach to vax?

#15 Bezengy on 08.15.21 at 3:13 pm

First order of business after hearing today’s announcement will be to pack up the boat and head somewhere far away where there is no cell phone service or tv. Mind you outback camping fees have risen from $6 to $32 per day here in Ontario but it’s still worth putting up with over 500 percent inflation just so I don’t need to hear anything Trudeau or the like have to say about the great job they’ve done running the country or their promises to make it even better.

#16 Keith on 08.15.21 at 3:13 pm

Intelligent, charming, accomplished, self secure. Gracious to the opposition, graceful under the tough questions, a master of diplomacy. Well aware of his place in history, he shows us what we are missing across the spectrum today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVrubDd_mqI

#17 Leftover on 08.15.21 at 3:15 pm

Way back in 1990 David Peterson called a snap election. He had a majority, was polling 50%, and had no visible opposition. Pure opportunism.

The media saw through it, as did the voters. But the result was Bob Rae.

Be careful what you wish for.

#18 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 3:16 pm

Willy Wonka

Global trying to be high brow along with a Conservative Strategist.

Joyless.

I killed myself laughing. Cons should run the ad 24/7 x 36 days. You have your requisite fake indignity, aghast for the first 2 min by the joyless, then the fun begins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9MTvYdE4mM

I liked it when Trudy starts trashing stuff. Too funny.

#19 an investor on 08.15.21 at 3:16 pm

I can’t stand any of them. This will be the first election in my life where I will not vote.

#20 Return Policy on 08.15.21 at 3:18 pm

8 When Will They Raise Rates?

Choose wisely because there are no refunds. God speed, Canada.

==========

Funny. Refunds, exchanges and even returns at Costco without receipts or even complete packaging.

But not with politicians.

Can’t even be fired when they do things anyone else at any other job would be fired for.

#21 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.15.21 at 3:20 pm

With as many as 5 million mail-in ballots expected, and big advance poll turn-outs, it will be anything but routine. Which side will benefit from that?

I’ll take George Soros, Klaus Schwab and the global reset people for $1000, Alex.

#22 the Jaguar on 08.15.21 at 3:21 pm

“We have real estate average people can’t afford, hollowed-out cities, social unrest causing statues to fall and churches to burn, wild fires and climate fears, a trillion in debt, historic deficits and politicians who can’t stop spending. ” GT

Exactly. And all of the above have little to do with the Pandemic, though it certainly could be said that Covid gas lit all of them.

Walk down the streets of most major Canadian cities and it’s like a scene out of Blade Runner. Deteriorating infrastructure, restaurants and retail abandoned, drugs and their victims everywhere one looks. Decay.
People want a return to a more competent, functioning society. They want to get rid of fear, mistrust, and depression. Bring back hope, faith and charity. That will require real change, and Trudeau doesn’t have what it takes. He lacks values and discipline. O’Toole might not be perfect. Who among us is? But he’s the one we’ve got, and you got to dance with the one you brought. Go get ’em Erin.

#23 Handsome Joe Blow on 08.15.21 at 3:21 pm

A new study published in PLOS One has found a relationship between a person’s body shape and their family income. The findings provide more evidence for the “beauty premium” — a phenomenon in which people who are physically attractive tend to earn more than their less attractive counterparts.

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Wow… That would explain how i ended up off the charts! Dang.. I knew i was good looking but I didnt realize it contributed to me being so well off!

Too bad about CEF and Ponzie Scam, though. Mother nature can often be cruel!

#24 DC on 08.15.21 at 3:22 pm

I need O’Toole to give me some reason to vote for him beyond ‘I am not Justin Trudeau’. I think there are plenty of Canadians who would rather not vote for JT, but they want to hear an idea or two; something reasonable that will help the country move forward and out of this mess we are in.

#25 Burnaby Boy on 08.15.21 at 3:24 pm

When Trudea was first elected we only required one passport to come and go, but since he declared the country a post national state, or something, we require two passports. Being at the age where it is all a bit confusing I’m scared to vote for him in case he brings in a third passport!

#26 Prairie Oyster on 08.15.21 at 3:25 pm

The picture looks like Teebo just got the news about the impending election and most probable outcome!

#27 Bob on 08.15.21 at 3:27 pm

Governor General approves the dissolution of Parliament even though there was no reason to do so.
Nice.

Let’s see how stupid the Canadian people are.

BTW, when will the news media even mention what Jagmeet’s previous occupation? CRIMINAL DEFENCE LAWYER.

#28 Hey turnernation on 08.15.21 at 3:31 pm

Since you likely won’t post a follow up now, I’ll do it for you.

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations

ICU: vaxxed – 1
One dose – 4
Unvaxxed – 53

#29 Nonplused on 08.15.21 at 3:32 pm

Ya, this election seems like a big waste of time and money. Maybe socks is just trying to boost the employment numbers by hiring a bunch of poll workers.

On the other hand, if CERB is still on, will he even be able to hire poll workers? What if they have to cancel the election due to lack of staff?

Anyway this election seems like a big waste of money to me. Since it is very unlikely to change anything (i.e. no majority, no conservative breakthrough), why doesn’t Trudeau just coast along with his minority government for another 2 years? I hate to say it, but it is one of the most stable minority governments we’ve seen.

Maybe he and his handlers think they are going to ride to victory on a wave of gratitude for his handling of covid. If so they are probably in for a rude awakening.
All of the anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, people who think the whole thing was a hoax, parents who want the schools open, landlords who haven’t been paid, small business owners, folks that lost their jobs, and others who are just sick of the lockdowns, are going to be voting “ABT” (Anybody But Trudeau). Will there be enough “CERB” party voters to turn the tide? It’s a gamble.

#30 Wrk.dover on 08.15.21 at 3:32 pm

What shall the pm, Pm then do should he become the former pm, Former Pm?

Is the correct answer, ‘Who cares ?’ ?

#31 Alice Pooper on 08.15.21 at 3:32 pm

I’m your top prime cut of meat, I’m your choice,
I never lied to you, I’ve always been cool,
I wanna be elected,
We’re gonna win this one, take the country by storm,
We got problems right here in Central City,
Everybody has problems,
And personally, I don’t care.”

#32 ts on 08.15.21 at 3:36 pm

@#14 the Jaguar on 08.15.21 at 3:21 pm

Well said. Best post.

#33 DON on 08.15.21 at 3:39 pm

Society: FUBAR

What will be the campaign promises? ‘Secure Future’ doesn’t resonate with me either. Better off going with ‘Free Money’. I think Trudeau’s slogan is equally weak. Perhaps he knows things aren’t so rosey with the end of the virus/economics? What else explains this weak election call? Perhaps a year too late. Is the economic tide changing after October and taxes on the rise? Is a bad mutation on the way? Is there a need to have a majority to bring in the true campaign slogan…’Tough Love is Good For Your Future’?

Trudeau gave lot of money to people and continues to do so…that might be all that matters at this point in time. Grab the pop corn.

#34 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 3:44 pm

Forgot to mention that last paragraph Garth summed it all up perfectly AND

“But a long 18 months after the virus shut Canada down, patience is wearing thin.”

That + Delta surging = Con majority. Cdns will have bird & take it out on the Libs and anyone that supported them. If that happens, watch political “social distancing” by the NDP.

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Italia Green Pass update.

Going well, still +70% in favour. No one bitching either than a few antivaxxer’s, all 3% of the population. Peak Italian tourism month so if they were going to bitch, this would be the month. Crickets so far.

Gov Italia “Il Viminale” (Interior Ministry) doing its bit catching Covid & Green Pass violators. From the Ministry the last few days via Twitter @Viminale (first is the # of checks by the Polizia, sanction means a trip to Court to explain yourself, reported = warning and noted for future sanctioning):

Aug 11
✓ 72,890 people, 19 sanctioned, 42 reported;
✓ 5,853 businesses, 22 sanctioned owners, 2 closures.

Aug 12
✓ 73,375 people, 12 sanctioned, 6 reported;
✓ 5,953 businesses, 3 sanctioned owners, 1 closure.

Aug 13
✓ 70.554 persone, 29 sanzionate, 2 denunciate;
✓ 6.353 attività/esercizi commerciali, 14 titolari sanzionati, 4 chiusure.

The Italian MSM reporting Il Viminale has gone soft. They want blood.

If you ask me, Italians a pretty compliant bunch per the above numbers (2020 still fresh in our minds).

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You just have to love a Gov that ACTUALLY ENFORCES its laws.

#35 mike from mtl on 08.15.21 at 3:45 pm

Well was pretty much signalled by the MSM so not exactly a secret election. I do hope everyone sees this as a blatant power grab, that malarkey line about not getting things done due to opposition… really?

The bug was such a plus to T2 and gang; zero opposition, blank cheque, stealth UBI, FUD fed populace, premiers gifted dictator level powers, and so on to distract from the worst sitting government I’ve ever seen.

#36 Nonplused on 08.15.21 at 3:57 pm

#20 the Jaguar on 08.15.21 at 3:21 pm
“We have real estate average people can’t afford, hollowed-out cities, social unrest causing statues to fall and churches to burn, wild fires and climate fears, a trillion in debt, historic deficits and politicians who can’t stop spending. ” GT

Exactly. And all of the above have little to do with the Pandemic, though it certainly could be said that Covid gas lit all of them.

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The media caused the social unrest because they need something to put on the news. That’s how “unmarked graves” that everyone who might have been interested already knew about became a summer of unrest.

Same with the climate fears. The wildfires? Well this is worse than usual but they have always been with us, as long as there have been forests. Perhaps misguided fire suppression policies have made matters worse but I don’t think one can make a firm case either way.

“A trillion in debt, historic deficits and politicians who can’t stop spending” – again, nothing new except the magnitude. The trend has been exponential for a long time. It’s just that we’ve reached a point where each new doubling involves some mind-blowing numbers.

“We have real estate average people can’t afford” – this to me is a pressing concern, because it affects people in a way that makes the difference between living life and facing food insecurity. But I don’t see any quick solutions. As long as inflation is high, rates are low, and demand exceeds supply, it ain’t going to get cheaper. It’s a catch 22. If they raise rates, prices will fall but mortgage rates will rise. Stiffing landlords doesn’t create more supply, it merely reallocates existing supply. The only solution is to build more housing, but that remains incredibly difficult to do and governments have not proven themselves to be enablers. Seems all they can do is throw another zoning law in the way.

So the trends will probably stay in place until something breaks. Inflation, deficits, and low rates won’t be voluntarily repealed. Buy all the things.

#37 CL on 08.15.21 at 4:00 pm

” inevitable post-vote taxation of some TFSA assets,”

How can they tax after tax dollars? A TFSA “capital gains” tax…?

#38 Polecat on 08.15.21 at 4:03 pm

Seriously looking at working as an expat in Ecuador if socks gets back in. He’ll turn Canada into a fiefdom. O’toole not much better but I hate to waste a vote. Happy hour won’t be the same today.

#39 QuebAnglo on 08.15.21 at 4:03 pm

The Liberals, Tories and NDP have lost all of their principles by passing Bill C-32 and NOT speaking against Francois Legault’s Franco-Supremacist and highly obnoxious and abusive Bill 96. Bill 96 will allow the OQLF to seize and search personal devices to ensure English isn’t being used in workplaces of over 25 employees, and further limit Francophones from going to English educational institutions. Quebec Anglos will stay home, because nobody represents our interests. Federal parties just want Bloc seats from the 450 and 819. Quebec Anglos are Canada’s most poorly treated minority!

#40 Joe on 08.15.21 at 4:07 pm

One correction. “We have real estate even rich can’t afford” No longer just the average.

#41 Tally Ban on 08.15.21 at 4:08 pm

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#42 Capt. Serious on 08.15.21 at 4:09 pm

Just like in the investment landscape, TINA. I mean, people might hate vote the Liberals out, but I don’t see any improvement waiting in the wings. This is a lessor of many evils vote for me. They’re all bad, unable to do math, and think they’re very important people who need to DO things to right the wrongs.
People who don’t vote: you then can’t complain. Not making a decision is also a decision. People literally die for the right to vote and you have like 16 ways to vote.

#43 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 4:10 pm

#27 Hey turnernation

More grist for your mill. Scroll down to the pie charts:

https://globalnews.ca/news/8109647/fourth-wave-covid-canada/

They say AB about the same proportions.

Data pretty much squares with CDC data earlier in the month.

Vaxd vs. Unvaxd:

Infection 8X reduction
Hospitalization 25X reduction
Death 25X reduction

#44 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.15.21 at 4:11 pm

#33 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 3:44 pm

If you ask me, Italians a pretty compliant bunch per the above numbers (2020 still fresh in our minds).

You just have to love a Gov that ACTUALLY ENFORCES its laws.

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Italians may seem compliant now, but they don’t like facism. Ask Mussolini how that worked out.

Not saying anyone’s getting executed by firing squad then strung upside down by angry mobs… but…

Give the Italians some time. They are still afraid of covid atm. Lol

#45 Miltee T on 08.15.21 at 4:13 pm

Where do I even start? Trudeau needs to go. How will Canadians forgive the “take the first vaccine you are offered” disaster, considering that meant it would be the AZ vaccine? He made this statement *AFTER* the U.S. had pulled AZ from being a viable vaccine. Now Canadians have been injected with mixed vaccines, which the WHO expresses concern about. Trudeau has also been linked to so many past scandals. It is time for big government to get out of the way and give people their freedoms back. They can’t forget, they serve the people, not the other way around. It is tax dollars that provide their funding, especially from the private sector.
And the “the vaccines are free” government rhetoric, what a bunch of nonsense since that too, is taxpayer money. A lot of Canadians don’t realize this. These “hospitals are overrun” and “save the N95 masks for the health professionals” early 2020 excuse is getting tired. With all the $ being spent, why no more hospital capacity? Why no production of N95 masks? Why would the government rather have people die who have contracted covid, than roll the dice on Ivermectin, even though there are numerous physicians touting it’s efficacy? Because of governments that can’t think straight, that’s why.

#46 AR on 08.15.21 at 4:16 pm

Set up a poll. Won’t mean much here as most vote Con. But I predict Trudeau will win a majority. Most Canadians are generous and progressive. We won’t vote in a party that panders to the wealthy when we need to be considering the economic effects of covid and climate change. The ‘tragedy of the commons’ is here and it’s now. More taxes for the wealthy make sense. More taxes for the upper middle class make sense. Tax cuts are and have always been for the corporations. The execs buy mansions and boats, burn +++ oil and cut wages. Canada can do better.

#47 Doug t on 08.15.21 at 4:18 pm

The problem is that none of them are LEADERS – oh well you’d have to be nuts to go into politics these days

#48 Ken on 08.15.21 at 4:26 pm

#4 Cheese – Yep…that’s about right.
#19 an investor – Sad, but I am thinking the same thing.

Synonyms for avuncular: generous, hospitable, kind-hearted, open-handed, benevolent, good, selfless, good-hearted, liberal(?), big-hearted, friendly, nice, warm, genuine, pleasant, welcoming, amiable, good-natured, spontaneous. Garth, did I miss anything?

#49 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 4:27 pm

Election on.

Just got called.

Brian Lilley of the Sun predictably upset.
https://twitter.com/brianlilley/status/1427000304793530374

Mad Max
https://twitter.com/brianlilley/status/1427000304793530374

Global
https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/1427002176006758400

#50 Quintilian on 08.15.21 at 4:31 pm

After the initial emotional trigger response dissipates, people will use their heads and proceed with the only rational decision .

The choice is clear:

The Nationalist, Hillbillies, Granolas, the Naïve, or the only legitimate party.

The Liberals will remain in power. Hopefully it will be a minority again, as they too can be corrupted absolutely.

#51 TurnerNation on 08.15.21 at 4:35 pm

Why vote. It’ll be T2, T3, T4. We all are Cuba now.

…….
#137 Dharma Bum on 08.14.21 at 10:53 am
Your post is WrongThink. No fun is allowed in Kanada.
What you mean to say Comrade is that those people in AB need a strong dose of wintertime lockdowns and passports ASAP.
Sign this confession – it will be much easier for you.

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Back to normal…soooon! Silly Iran, everybody knows that 7 days is the scientific number. Pffft 6 days.

.Iran to impose six-day lockdown to combat coronavirus ‘fifth wave’ (theguardian.com)

.Australia: Regional NSW to go into lockdown from 5:00pm today (mobile.abc.net.au)

.Flood of police and soldiers to hit Sydney in unprecedented show of force(news.com.au)

.VANCOUVER — Masks are now mandatory in one department at Simon Fraser University
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/sfu-biology-department-breaks-ranks-with-school-on-covid-19-protocols-1.5546933



— The future? Comrade we notice your passport has only 4 jabs on it. Please step out of the line you are now under investigation.
Everything I have seen says 2025 is how long this will be lasting.
SOME people say that Every human must be given a Digital ID – into the Blockchain. It’s why lockstep the passports are appearing, everywhere.

.Canada to buy 40 million Moderna COVID-19 doses in next two years (cp24.com)

https://twitter.com/cse_cst/status/1426197499803406341
The official account of the Communications Security Establishment
We thank Scott Jones for his leadership of the @cybercentre_ca, and for strengthening Canada’s cyber security through partnership. We wish him the best in his new role as Federal Lead, Proof of Vaccine Credentials.

#52 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 4:36 pm

Election on.

Europe carried the election call 3h ago, spot on. L’est wow (Canada on the European radar big time):

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58209031

https://www.dw.com/en/canada-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-calls-snap-election/a-58872352

https://www.lapresse.it/ultima-ora/2021/08/15/canada-trudeau-elezioni-anticipate-il-20-settembre/

https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/justin-trudeau-annonce-des-elections-anticipees-au-canada-20210815

#53 jimmy zhao on 08.15.21 at 4:45 pm

Mail in ballots = Fraud

Look what happened in the States.

Yes, they found none. – Garth

#54 FriedEggs on 08.15.21 at 4:54 pm

‘Voting’ – Heads we lose, tails they win.

-Chiseled on a wall (c.5,000 B.C.)

#55 Diamond Dog on 08.15.21 at 4:56 pm

Well said Garth.

It all matters, of course. Our Federal government taxes and spends anywhere from 14 to 18% of our economy in normal times. Each party has it’s weaknesses and strengths to that end and you’ve summed it up nicely. So nicely, the job is already done which frees up time to express concern on a different matter:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/siberian-wildfires-dwarf-all-others-on-earth-combined/ar-AANlC35?ocid=uxbndlbing

Siberian wildfires have consumed 15 million acres (5.8 million hectares) as of Aug 14th. To put this in perspective, British Columbia has 94 million hectares. Ontario, 91.7 million hectares of land. That would be more than 6% of either of these 2 Canadian provinces and it’s only mid August. The state of California has 40.4 million hectares, so far this year’s Siberian wild fires would have consumed the equivalent of 14.35% of the state (Btw, 3rd largest U.S. state by area). Currently, the entire nation of Russia is covered in smoke.

So yes, this is a big deal. Yes, it will be largely ignored (save Russia who is currently being choked by the smoke). Even though it’s still mid August, 2021 Siberian wildfires are the 3rd largest in human recorded history next to Australia’s wildfires (46,000,000 acres) last year and the Tagian Eastern Russia forest fires of 2003 consuming 47,000,000 acres:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/may/31/environment.russia

We never really learned our lessons since then which, looking back, there was no other wildfire season like 2003 and nothing to compare it to before or since until 2020 and this year. But looking ahead, with future predicted successive more intensified heat waves and potential for high winds, such seasons could happen here in Canada. We would be naive to think that it can’t.

Forests dominate many Canadian landscapes covering 38% of Canada’s land area. Although 77% of Canada’s forests are found in the boreal zone, 37% of Canada’s wood volume is found in our temperate forests. In short, we’ve got plenty to lose and it can’t happen here? It’s already happened and is happening again in Russia, same latitudes, same globe. Once again, successive heat waves, high winds, of course it can happen here so we need to be ready. Are we?

#56 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 4:58 pm

Last Comment Garth.

Old School Liberal here.

Just did CBC’s Vote Compass.

As a result, I have gone on Amazon.it to purchase a Seppuku knife set, white linen and throw pillow, kimono, chonmage, pomade, crinoline paper, tatami and a short legged table:

https://i.imgur.com/GZD4ALl.png

#57 cuke and tomato picker on 08.15.21 at 5:17 pm

Remember people 75 and over will get 5 hundred dollars on the 16th and an extra 10 per cent on their OAS if Justin get elected next July.

#58 Idiocy on 08.15.21 at 5:30 pm

Consider this;

1) 36 days to conduct a Federal election
2) up to 5 million mail in ballots
3) Dominion voting machines with questionable tecnology
4) during a pandemic
5) in a country suffering supply chain issues and shortages
etc., etc. etc…..

In a country with a government that couldn’t organise a drinking party in a brewery, this should go smoothly !
NOT !!!

There will be no use of voting machines in Canada. – Garth

#59 Kato on 08.15.21 at 5:33 pm

#55 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 4:58 pm
Last Comment Garth.

Old School Liberal here.

Just did CBC’s Vote Compass.

As a result, I have gone on Amazon.it to purchase a Seppuku knife set, white linen and throw pillow, kimono, chonmage, pomade, crinoline paper, tatami and a short legged table:

https://i.imgur.com/GZD4ALl.png
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I did the same thing (the Compass, not the self-murder set), and found myself halfway between the Libs and Cons. If you’re on the edges of the map, the NDP, Greens, or Max’s Mad Medley probably have something for you to get excited about.

Can’t blame either main party for shunning the center in 2021, but it would sure make my civic duty easier.

#60 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 5:53 pm

Only left wing partisan zealots will vote for sock-head. Anyone with a functioning brain understands it’s time for someone else to give leadership a shot.

Just don’t expect any improvements for 10-15+ years, after the damage Trudeau has done. What a ******* disaster.

#61 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 5:57 pm

#45 AR on 08.15.21 at 4:16 pm

More taxes for the wealthy make sense. More taxes for the upper middle class make sense. Tax cuts are and have always been for the corporations. The execs buy mansions and boats, burn +++ oil and cut wages. Canada can do better.

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Everybody who says that means ‘people other than me can pay more taxes and do better’. Do you really think paying 54% tax is overly beneficial?

Canada hardly has rich and, as Nonplused has pointed out several times, the country is already at peak tax.

#62 S.Bby on 08.15.21 at 6:07 pm

A selfish attempted power grab by Trudeau using the taxpayer’s dime.

#63 Bob in Hamilton on 08.15.21 at 6:08 pm

Trudeau majority government: 175 seats….

..people will always vote for their self interest over anything else. That is the Canada of today.

#64 gfd on 08.15.21 at 6:15 pm

#3 Splash Park on 08.15.21 at 2:48 pm
“In general Canadians have supported their leaders, providing a tacit thumbs-up on the Covid effort.”

You obviously haven’t been to Alberta lately

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Attestation below . . . . .

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/95/7b/07957b3be623b9b304f1b43605a5e534.jpg

#65 Damifino on 08.15.21 at 6:16 pm

It was interesting that the Financial Post carried a piece on Friday about the (likely) inevitable post-vote taxation of some TFSA assets,
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What part of “tax free” is not understood?

#66 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.15.21 at 6:17 pm

#10 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 3:06 pm
Well, I’ll do my part to punt Chrystia.

Even though the Cons will also take lots of my money, at least they won’t be doing as part of a Grand Social Experiment.
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The audacity!
“Grand Social Experiment”?
I’ll vote for anything that will give leeches like you the boot.

#67 Don Guillermo on 08.15.21 at 6:17 pm

#59 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 5:53 pm
Only left wing partisan zealots will vote for sock-head. Anyone with a functioning brain understands it’s time for someone else to give leadership a shot.

Just don’t expect any improvements for 10-15+ years, after the damage Trudeau has done. What a ******* disaster
****************************************
No one in the history of Canada has abused their privileged birth more than T2.

#68 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.15.21 at 6:20 pm

#52 jimmy zhao on 08.15.21 at 4:45 pm
Mail in ballots = Fraud

Look what happened in the States.

Yes, they found none. – Garth
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Actually, they found a few.
Out of 150 million.

#69 Faron on 08.15.21 at 6:21 pm

Pandemic election is distasteful.

Unrelated, if you have 55 minutes to learn about markets from a very smart person, this is an excellent video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHuDqKduQ-s

Touches on realistic long term market/economic prognoses as well.

#70 Diamond Dog on 08.15.21 at 6:31 pm

Politics, ok, why not. If Erin O’Toole came out and said,

“I just read the summaries and a good chunk of the UN’s lengthy latest IPCC report claiming climate change is unequivocally man made and it’s effects if we continue to pollute to the levels we have been, disaster is certain. I believe them. I believe the science and with science in mind, this is how I intend to lead Canada if elected for the privilege.

I also believe quitting cold turkey often kills the junkie. We are addicted to fossil fuels. We still need gas to heat our homes and get us from A to B still so I am in no way going to discourage future production of O&G but will fully encourage the downstream production of all future “unburned” hydrocarbons whether it’s plastics of which most ends up in landfills waiting for redesigned hungry bacteria to munch, or 84% recycled synthetic oil or asphalt for highways of which our tar sands products are well known for, and I will fully encourage the direct capture of C02 emissions at plants, and future electrification of all future resource extraction.

The future may not be as dim as we think. EV’s are coming soon. New tech in storage (iron/air batteries) will change the future of power generation when it comes. We can turn this around but only with the right policies in mind implemented globally.

The thinking behind the Liberal carbon tax is sound in the context of putting a higher price on burned carbon fuels which make EV’s more competitive in the market place and encourages more energy efficient homes and I’m good with this, there is merit. What we do with that tax money and leaving it up to the provinces to do with what they will is what I don’t like. I don’t like the bloated costs of tax and dividend or spend associated with such programs. My own vision is to see all carbon tax money spent directly in the fight against climate change but only in projects that are profitable in commodities we thirst for and chief among them is power.

To that end, there are a number of solutions that have caught my eye of which I am willing to start up crown corporations to see it through should our own private industry be to slow to act. The first is geothermal out west. Drilling rigs (mere doubles) can tap into hot water (125 C) where viable (the example below is 3500 ft) all day long with targets everywhere, not just in BC, Alta and Sask:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7IhGitNE4

The year ’round power of the well example in the link above is enough heat to generate 20 mega watts of electricity or enough to power 20,000 homes. That’s just one well. 200 wells networking into gathering systems outside of Calgary near existing power generation plants around Calgary and beyond:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generating_stations_in_Alberta

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generating_stations_in_Saskatchewan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generating_stations_in_Ontario

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generating_stations_in_New_Brunswick

Canada has converted a tremendous amount of coal fired plants to nat gas which is a rough 50% reduction of C02 emissions but we can go to zero emissions, once again, with political will and good old fashioned Canadian ingenuity. Canada can create a new energy sector by taking this tech to the rest of the world if we so desire.

We are following the data and looking at the numbers (infrastructure, gen plants, cost per well) but if the tech proves up geothermal wells as it has so far, as a federal government with a true challenge to fighting climate change, our goal is to use carbon tax dollars to see it through instead of watching the Liberal vision to merely increase the sale of EV’s. Sure, EV sales are good for manufacturers and car sales down east and south and it will lower emissions somewhat, but it doesn’t economically mobilize all of Canada in the fight against climate change. As such, we are embracing a 7 point plan in the race to zero emissions:

– geothermal power generation as described in youtube link above.
– Development of new technology using Direct air capture of C02 at the plant. (more on this to come)
– Shifting the focus of hydrocarbon downstream use from burned (nat gas, gas driven transport) to unburned EV’s, EM’s, synthetics, plastics, composites.
– the end of all fossil fuel generated power by 2030.
– the end of all 100% fossil fuel propelled transport by 2035.
– the end of all C02 emissions from concrete production.
– continued push for efficiencies from power consumption to energy efficient homes.

Retiring gas driven autos by 2035, can’t be done? Germany thinks it can, they along with other European nations have already passed it into law. Toyota is introducing their first solid state EV battery years ahead of the competition next year (potentially Q4 of this year) with cars offering ranges of 500 miles.

Can we go zero emissions power generation within 10 years? Looking at the geothermal numbers with existing infrastructure in existing power plants, I believe we can. The tech and math is largely already there but it will take political will and support to see it done. With climate change projected to be what it is, we’ll have it.

Our forests aren’t ready for the wild fire threats of the future. Do we have strategic fire guards up as wide as they should be across Canada? I think not. Trudeau promised 2 billion trees in 10 years. Pakistan planted a billion between 2013 and 2018. So far, the Lib government has planted?

We have a $354 billion dollar deficit thanks to a Liberal government. These aren’t normal times but only half that money should have been spent. The other half of that money was spent trying to buy our votes with our own borrowed money. In my view, the scale and scope of it, this is the worst public fiscal failure in Canadian history and is best defined as, “soft corruption”.

With me, mild mannered Erin O’Toole elected as your humble leader, I promise not to repeat such ugly mistakes ever again and lead with the vision of someone as wise as his years. On election day, one can vote for what one will say… or one can vote for what one will actually do. Action as they say, is louder than words.”

Now, if Erin O’Toole said this to the masses, he would have my vote. Why, he’d even have my support! Maybe someone should do a copy/paste of this and send it off to him in an email as food for thought. (It would probably win him an election)

#71 NSNG on 08.15.21 at 6:33 pm

If people thought Harper was a megalomaniac with absolute power, Trudeau will be exponentially worse.

This could be the worst mistake Canadians ever make. Likewise with the new GG. She may come to regret this decision down the road.

#72 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.15.21 at 6:37 pm

Well, this is O’Toole’s chance to dazzle the voters.
Never paid much attention to him.
But as usual, I willing to give the underdog a chance.
So, Go O’Toole, Go.

#73 I'm Voting PeePee on 08.15.21 at 6:38 pm

Max doesn’t need to get on a plane to meet me. All he has to do is not be Erin O’Toole or any other useless Conservative. Game changer.

#74 Bezengy on 08.15.21 at 6:40 pm

#60 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 5:57 pm
#45 AR on 08.15.21 at 4:16 pm

More taxes for the wealthy make sense. More taxes for the upper middle class make sense. Tax cuts are and have always been for the corporations. The execs buy mansions and boats, burn +++ oil and cut wages. Canada can do better.

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Everybody who says that means ‘people other than me can pay more taxes and do better’. Do you really think paying 54% tax is overly beneficial?

Canada hardly has rich and, as Nonplused has pointed out several times, the country is already at peak tax.

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So this week I had a well drilled at the camp, not my idea but wifey said it was her basic human right to have clean drinking water.

Total cost $17,000
Income tax paid $5000
MOE fee paid $1800
HST fee paid $1300

So, I get water (no mansion or new boat) and the government gets $8200.00. Criminal. The wife’s happy though. I just need to finish the job, new pump, pipe, cable, etc. Justin should make another $1000 or so before I can turn the tap on.

#75 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.15.21 at 6:41 pm

So much hardship in this world.
Afghanistan, Haiti etc.
Tu Felix, CANADA.
No, nothing to do with cats.

#76 Julia No on 08.15.21 at 6:43 pm

This is our chance to voice our concerns with our votes.
Unprecedented debt level with only more spending in the plans.
Reckless vaccine role outs without full disclosure for the sake of looking like the hero.
Relentless lock downs and shutting down businesses, causing business owners to fear another lock down, and have business owners to volunteerly mandate vaccine passports from their patrons because desperation and fear does that to people…
Our freedom to speak, to dine, to enjoy time with family and friends will all go down the drain unless we think, the more we surrender our rights to tyrant government body spray painted in fake gold the more rights we will lose.
WAKE UP Canada, it’s time we open our eyes to what we permitted into our beloved country.
STAND UP Canada, it’s time we put our foot down and say “you will go no further!”
VOTE Canada, don’t let this self egocentric government to continue in hypocrisy, lies, and self destruction.
If we don’t think for ourselves, someone who will enslave us will.

#77 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 6:47 pm

#54 Diamond Dog on 08.15.21 at 4:56 pm

Re: wildfires

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DD, you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about wildfires. Fire ecosystems burn. It’s their thing. Always it has been thus. When people move into a fire ecosystem, sometimes their houses burn.

The most bounteous spring morel mushrooms abound in freshly-burnt areas and hunting deer in a two year old burn can’t be beat. All of my outdoor gear has deep ground-in soot. Love the sweet butterscotch/caramel smell of a burnt Ponderosa pine forest. And the summer blueberries! Just watch for bears.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_ecology

#78 Dimaond Dog on 08.15.21 at 6:48 pm

More on geothermal power generation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0sHVsC1cF4

#79 summer_reading on 08.15.21 at 6:49 pm

None of the main federal parties (Conservative, Liberals, NDP, Greens, and Bloc) are willing to enact common-sense measures to rein in out of control real estate prices. The federal government could implement common sense measures that could actually work such as increasing the down payment required to buy property, capital gains tax on buying property to remove the tax advantage over investing in other assets such as stocks, and shortening mortgage amortization periods. We need a political party focused on Affordable Housing to run in this election: https://www.reddit.com/r/canadahousing/comments/ouc3vs/its_time_for_an_affordable_housing_political/

#80 Well travelled on 08.15.21 at 6:54 pm

It is a simple question to me – could O’Toole possibly, under any scenario you can imagine, be worse for Canada than voting for Trudeau again?

#81 VladTor on 08.15.21 at 6:57 pm

Compare with liberals and cons NDP have better platform in many cases. They may take more voices if they just change leader. With Singh they never will be winner. His a good guy by himself … but NDP need other leader. Not b’s something is wrong with him. I’m thinking you understand what I mean.

Max Bernier has a best program compare with others parties.

Best and realistic!

Nobody reading his program and that’s why PPC can’t take too much votes. Canadians not ready voting for something what they really needs. He need to establish his own independent party newspaper to share his program among Canadians. Just read his party platform and you will be surprised how good is it. No idiotic bla-bla-bla about nothing.

Read here and see:

https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform

#82 Flop... on 08.15.21 at 6:59 pm

O.k so I had a look to see what candidates had been put up against the 3 time NDP champ in my Vancouver Kingsway riding.

This is the riding that has never touched Liberal or Conservative hands since the David Emerson debacle.

What is the David Emerson debacle says some guy in Eastern Canada?

Probably best to enlist the help of that Wikipedia guy to give a quick summary.

“David Emerson controversy.

David Emerson was first elected in 2004, for the Liberal Party of Canada, and served in the Cabinet as the Minister of Industry.

Emerson was re-elected as a Liberal in the 2006 election, but crossed the floor two weeks later on February 6, 2006 to become the new Minister of International Trade in Stephen Harper’s Conservative government.

Emerson’s floor-crossing was highly controversial. Then Prime Minister-designate Stephen Harper dispatched campaign co-chair John Douglas Reynolds, on the day after the election, to offer Emerson a cabinet post in a Conservative government. Emerson’s acceptance of that offer made Canadian history, marking the first time a member of parliament, let alone a cabinet minister, had crossed the floor before a new government was even sworn in.

As a result of the controversy, a number of groups formed to fight for Emerson’s resignation. Some groups also seek legislation that would prevent floor crossing altogether or restrict a member of parliament if they abandon their party’s caucus. Groups that fought against Emerson’s defection included the New Democratic Party-aligned Recall David Emerson Campaign, and the Liberal Party-aligned but eventually wholly citizen-driven De-Elect Emerson Campaign.”

So is NDP Don Davies that good a politician, or is a decade and a half of voter scorning not enough for the other parties to have a look in?

Anyway the Liberals have gone with a young female Canadian-Filipino.

Any chance?

Demographics come back as 36% Chinese, 32% European and 12.5% Filipino so there’s that.

Couldn’t find the Conservative candidate yet, maybe I could run, but I worry about my sturdiness and the hopelessness of running my campaign out of the back of a 32 year old gas guzzler in New Granola-ville.

Here’s the other oddity of this riding.

9.9% of the population is Buddhist, in this riding, the highest in Canada.

I could have helped make it 10%, if I had chosen to radically overhaul my life, but taking a government gob is extreme as I get…

M47BC

#83 Oakville Rocks! on 08.15.21 at 6:59 pm

Greaterfool got a prediction exactly right! Isn’t this the first sign of an impending apocalypse? (hoping that a blog host that encourages MSU can also tolerate a little gentle teasing) If next, Nonplused finds himself at a loss for words – definitely seek higher ground.

What I want to know is this: if even Garth knew the election would be called this weekend with a date of Sept 20th – why does the Election Canada website still not allow voters resident in Canada to request a mail in ballot? As of an hour ago, mail in ballot requests were only allowed for those non-resident in Canada until the election is officially called.

You would think T2 would have been sure to have this duck in a row and ready to go. Maybe it is a case of our hard working civil servants not working on a Sunday. But T2 has to wear this and it better be ready by Monday or this should be an election issue.

Also, I saw that stupid Willy Wonka Conservative Ad last night. It is hard to imagine O’Toole would allow such an ad. It is juvenile and looks like it was done by high schoolers or worse, a frosh class of civil engineers.
It looks even worse when compared to the truck ad put out by Unifor. The Willy Wonka ad belongs on a Conservative blogger’s website not party HQ. Steve Harper ran a much tighter ship. It has convinced me that no money of mine is going to HQ (and they called twice last week seeking a donation). I will support my local Conservative candidate only. Especially as she is completely new and taking on a two time winner and former city councilor.

Let the games begin.

#84 Sunshowers on 08.15.21 at 7:04 pm

The year is 1919. The world’s strongest and most feared imperial military leaves Afghanistan in a disgrace that heralds their coming collapse.

The year is 1989. The world’s strongest and most feared imperial military leaves Afghanistan in a disgrace that heralds their coming collapse.

The year is 2021…

#85 VladTor on 08.15.21 at 7:05 pm

…. There will be no use of voting machines in Canada. – Garth

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Garth, you killing me. WHY????
I worked for last 3 elections including federal. Voting machines is the best solution. We have it and they working perfect. No mistakes – result immediately. You can see each hours how things going. One election we didn’t have machines – it was terrible to count ballots manually.

We have now 21 century.

Again, WHY???? We have now 21 century.

#86 cmj on 08.15.21 at 7:08 pm

#19 an investor
“I can’t stand any of them. This will be the first election in my life where I will not vote.”

Reconsider this decision. If many don’t vote because they feel the same as you, it scews the overall voting results. This is a critical election and our government must stop spending our money recklessly. We need to use a strong voice of concern about the irresponsibility of our government. We owe it to future generations who will inherit this mess if we don’t speak up and vote!

#87 Blogdog123 on 08.15.21 at 7:10 pm

re:
#52 jimmy zhao on 08.15.21 at 4:45 pm
Mail in ballots = Fraud

Look what happened in the States.

Yes, they found none. – Garth

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That was so funny in the USA, when Trump and his incompetent lawyers kept showing up to court with ZERO evidence of fraud. They judges kept kicking them out…

Bbuttt, bbuut, Ballot harvesting, look at that video of poll counters moving boxes of ballots around, it musst be fraud be-cause it’s fraud and we don’t have any evidence to present, even though we had lots of poll watchers looking and videoing and seeing nothing, but the election was stolen because Trump said so even before the election day and we will just keep repeating fraud, stolen until our weak minded followers believe it’s true in the absence of any evidence… blather, rinse, repeat…

Rudy Guliani is a joke of a lawyer, reminds me of Arrested Development and Henry Winkler’s incompetent lawyer character…

#88 T on 08.15.21 at 7:26 pm

A vote for Trudeau is a vote for mandatory covid vaccination for those who are able. Libs will win a majority based on this, the majority of the population agree and feel it’s the only way out of this pandemic. Getting to the other side of this pandemic as fast and painless as possible is issue #1.

#89 Ballingsford on 08.15.21 at 7:27 pm

Only people 45 and older should be allowed to vote.

#90 Dr V on 08.15.21 at 7:32 pm

Anybody have a link to the FP article about taxing TFSAs? Enquiring minds want to know…..

#91 Flop... on 08.15.21 at 7:33 pm

Meh…

It was supposed to read government job.

But government gob works just as well…

M47BC

#92 baloney Sandwitch on 08.15.21 at 7:35 pm

I am pissed and will protest this unnecessary elections by voting against T2. Its time for the Libs to cool their heels for a few years. I would have voted for the Jag if he had belonged to a mainstream party but as I am rich dude I cannot do that. So its the cons eventhough O’toole looks like a foole with an e.

#93 morrey on 08.15.21 at 7:37 pm

@ #5 JSS

…just not with a majority. Mr. socks will still be in a minority position. and on his knees. not a pretty picture nor

this election smells opportunistic
Yep. my polling over the past three days indicates that Junior is in for a rude awakening. WE has sunk him with so many folks that i have spoken to.

#94 Ballingsford on 08.15.21 at 7:37 pm

#74 Bezengy on 08.15.21 at 6:40 pm
———

So this week I had a well drilled at the camp, not my idea but wifey said it was her basic human right to have clean drinking water.

Total cost $17,000
Income tax paid $5000
MOE fee paid $1800
HST fee paid $1300

So, I get water (no mansion or new boat) and the government gets $8200.00. Criminal. The wife’s happy though. I just need to finish the job, new pump, pipe, cable, etc. Justin should make another $1000 or so before I can turn the tap on.
******
That’s a small price to pay for a happy wife.

#95 TMac on 08.15.21 at 7:42 pm

Well this is what happens when you have a narcissist in office. A majority win for the libs will be a complete erosion of the rights and freedoms we hold dear.
A biomedical police state is coming.

#96 Walter Ulbricht's Paunch on 08.15.21 at 7:49 pm

X for whichever one attacks the deficit hardest.

I don’t see any federal tory leader being in league with the sophisticated. Like the French or the Japanese. Socks for them.

#97 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.15.21 at 7:52 pm

#88 T on 08.15.21 at 7:26 pm
A vote for Trudeau is a vote for mandatory covid vaccination for those who are able. Libs will win a majority based on this, the majority of the population agree and feel it’s the only way out of this pandemic. Getting to the other side of this pandemic as fast and painless as possible is issue #1.
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Completely agree.
Get this sucker into the rear window.
The only way to move forward.
I actually noticed more people are wearing masks again.
People realize that when there was a 100% mask mandate, the virus retreated faster than the Afghanistan army.
Masks:
cheap, easy and effective.

#98 Linda on 08.15.21 at 7:56 pm

i’d vote for todays pup Teebo as PM. Pay would be treats, walks & tummy rubs:)

The election. JT is likely hoping the unprecedented spending (aka: bribe the voters with their own money – it works!) will bring in another 5 years of glib Lib. Only if a majority, of course. Here is the thing. Whoever comes in first will have to eventually deal with that staggering deficit/debt. Even the most starry eyed naive taxpayer will eventually realize the land of unicorns & fairy dust isn’t forever & that tax ogre will have to be dealt with. Frankly, if one of ‘the other’ parties does win, they will a) have to be the bearer of bad news regarding tax increases & b) will be blamed for the ugly results of said deficit/debt, regardless of who actually created it.

Meanwhile, this taxpayer is going to have the task of trying to figure out who to vote for. Right now, whoever I deem to be most likely to do the least damage. Since ‘none of the above’ isn’t a viable option. Too bad.

#99 Phylis on 08.15.21 at 7:57 pm

#89 Ballingsford on 08.15.21 at 7:27 pm
Only people 45 and older should be allowed to vote.
Xxxxxx
Maybe drug testing is in order?

#100 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 8:03 pm

#67 Don Guillermo on 08.15.21 at 6:17 pm
#59 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 5:53 pm

Only left wing partisan zealots will vote for sock-head. Anyone with a functioning brain understands it’s time for someone else to give leadership a shot.

Just don’t expect any improvements for 10-15+ years, after the damage Trudeau has done. What a ******* disaster
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No one in the history of Canada has abused their privileged birth more than T2.

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Yep, if Trudeau wins, it’s the best evidence ever for convincing me that white male privilege actually exists.

This guy is everything the lefts hates… if he was some random guy at 20 years old.

But, he’s leading the polls…

#101 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 8:07 pm

#66 Ponzius Pilatus on 08.15.21 at 6:17 pm
#10 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 3:06 pm
Well, I’ll do my part to punt Chrystia.

Even though the Cons will also take lots of my money, at least they won’t be doing as part of a Grand Social Experiment.

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The audacity!
“Grand Social Experiment”?
I’ll vote for anything that will give leeches like you the boot.

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Leech?

Have you considered the possibility that my many employees, together with corp taxes, significant capital gains taxes from mostly US companies, and my own personal taxes… may benefit the Canadian economy?

Just wondering.

#102 Linley on 08.15.21 at 8:10 pm

SO WHO DO WE VOTE FOR? .. :/

#103 Keith on 08.15.21 at 8:21 pm

@#82 Flop

I met Don Davies at an all candidates meeting for the 2008 election, the Liberal candidate failed to show up. He was smart, articulate and clearly the best person for the constituency.

In the most recent election, he took 49 percent of the vote, and won pretty handily. There are three core factors in his success. First is his work ethic. He introduces more legislation than any other member of parliament, he know all the issues, and he takes care of constituency business and community relations assiduously. He attends every community event he can in person, especially the various festivals – and he wears the clothing without being mocked.

His constituency is full of new Canadians, so he runs what amounts to an immigration law practice in his office. He’s a lawyer by training, and the number of constituents he has assisted with the bureaucracy now numbers in the thousands. He is owed favors all over the place. Many of those people turn up to volunteer on his campaigns, all of them vote for him plus their families.

Third factor, directly related to the first two is his ground game in the election campaign. He has tons of volunteers on the phones, identifying support. His campaign sign team hit the streets this afternoon, the process is already in the works. He knows who his voters are, and he has lots of help getting the message out to them and making sure they vote.

So Don Davies is a star politician, in a third party who initially ran at the perfect time to get in and has never taken his success for granted. I haven’t seen quality candidates from the Liberals or Conservatives run against him, often they don’t live in the constituency, they are either young rookies gaining experience for a more realistic chance in another riding, or middle aged minor league politicians of modest accomplishment.

I expect Don will win this time pretty handily. If they have an all candidates meeting, which seems unlikely it’s well worth attending – last time there was even a communist. Don is a very good speaker and well versed in all the issues.

#104 Mick McClean on 08.15.21 at 8:24 pm

The Conservatives? Erin O’Toole has virtually no profile and was probably the wrong guy for the Tories to pick.
I beg to differ: O’Toole served 12 years in the CAF attaining the rank of Captain in Air Command. Later he became a lawyer. Sounds pretty accomplished to me and this Canadian would love to see him at the helm thank you. Seeing how the CBC stands to be defunded if O’Toole gets in expect to see even more renegade polling and biased reporting.

Nice, but it’s about electability. – Garth

#105 Ballingsford on 08.15.21 at 8:28 pm

#90 Dr V on 08.15.21 at 7:32 pm
Anybody have a link to the FP article about taxing TFSAs? Enquiring minds want to know…..

*****
I can’t see them taxing ordinary TFSA’s. The day traders who use TFSA’s is another story.

The suggestion was that tax could be imposed on accumulated balances above a certain limit. Doubtful, but possible. TFSAs were Trudeau’s first target. – Garth

#106 Ustabe on 08.15.21 at 8:34 pm

<i. #90 Dr V on 08.15.21 at 7:32 pm

Anybody have a link to the FP article about taxing TFSAs? Enquiring minds want to know…..

While my Google-fu may not be the best, it is telling me the FP hasn’t had an article up mentioning the TFSA since July of this year.

Using the site search on FP’s front page gives the same results.

This is like 2019 all over again, lots of wishful thinking masquerading as fact. Pour yourself a brandy and go back in Garth’s archives to October(I think) of 2019…it will be like reverse deja vu…

My mistake. It was Bloomberg. Like here. – Garth

#107 CJohnC on 08.15.21 at 8:57 pm

It’s only been about 12 hours since the election was called and I am tired of hearing about it already.

#108 VladTor on 08.15.21 at 8:58 pm

I’m thinking this election will be worth for Lib’s. Choosing September is a very bad idea. Next spring or fall would be better.

People completely tired for viruses last and this year. % voters will be minimum.
Too many people depressed by the uncertainty of the economy. Mail ballots will not help.
Lib’s in my opinion will finally convert minority government in mess government.
As result, another election soon – Italian style!

In Russia we have for this case very good Russian proverb – if you will hurry, you will make people laugh.

#109 Drinking on 08.15.21 at 9:04 pm

Why, just why, would anybody vote for T2? It is mindboggling??? This guy is not and has never been a liberal, he is in it for himself/ his ideals while ignoring the rest of great minds out there. What a disaster for the future generation if Southern Ontario/Toronto votes this guy in again!!! He kicked out two of the brightest minds out there from his cabinet why because those ladies saw right through him!

#110 Old Ron on 08.15.21 at 9:06 pm

Ok Garth, you win, I predicted October 25 election.

Now I predict a Conservative minority.

#111 Barb on 08.15.21 at 9:07 pm

#84 Sunshowers on 08.15.21 at 7:04 pm

The year is 1919. The world’s strongest and most feared imperial military leaves Afghanistan in a disgrace that heralds their coming collapse.

The year is 1989. The world’s strongest and most feared imperial military leaves Afghanistan in a disgrace that heralds their coming collapse.

The year is 2021…

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Should’ve “fixed” Pakistan ages ago.

#112 Wise guy on 08.15.21 at 9:13 pm

I have 7 kids, a wife, and a “nanny”. We get $550 per kid and $1700 per adult. No tax. I work under the table for 2k per month. That’s 11k per month tax free. God bless Canada.

#113 TurnerNation on 08.15.21 at 9:16 pm

#43 Dolce Vita on 08.15.21 at 4:10 pm

If there is a “4th wave” then why did the FEDS call an election with paper based in-person voting? Does this make any sense?

-One issue the reporting is not always clear.
If one is in hospital for something else and are given a Covid test, are they recorded then as ‘with covid’ for the stats? It would be helpful to know.

The devil is in the details:

https://twitter.com/topublichealth/status/1275888390060285967?lang=en
Toronto Public Health @TOPublicHealth
Individuals who have died with COVID-19, but not as a result of COVID-19 are included in the case counts for COVID-19 deaths in Toronto.
4:27 PM · Jun 24, 2020·Twitter Web App

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— The Future: and why a global Digital ID is being slowly rolled out. “But the salesman said take these and I would be ‘Fully'”!

“Covid booster shots will ‘be obligatory for trips abroad and care home staff’ – as millions are set to offered a third jab from September
Booster Covid jabs to be made compulsory for foreign trips and care home staff
Millions of people are set to be offered a third vaccination from September
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9894487/Booster-Covid-vaccines-mandatory-care-home-staff-foreign-trips-UK.html

— Montreal : 1000s take to the street in protest of the New System. Apparently the papers said Hundreds. No man this is quite a mob.

https://twitter.com/BananaMediaQ/status/1426664943353536514

#114 The West on 08.15.21 at 9:18 pm

#89 Ballingsford on 08.15.21 at 7:27 pm

Only people 45 and older should be allowed to vote.

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https://money.cnn.com/2014/02/14/investing/tom-perkins-vote/index.html

This guy was onto something. There is logic to be found here.

#115 westcdn on 08.15.21 at 9:21 pm

I wear a mask to prevent me from harming you. I took a jab though I didn’t want to but the authorities want it plus I want to travel again. Sometimes I tire of fighting fear but death of those you care for is to be avoided.
I don’t like this election call and hope T2 reached for a Bridge to Far. I thought of running in politics but I am unelectable. I will make decisions people don’t like but I will listen before the deed is done. Drama was a a class I skipped and my mother did not think I was the 2nd coming of Christ, as much she loved me.

I should have died several times. The big guy, gal or whatever must find me amusing and want to keep me around. I will continue to entertain.

Perhaps my grandkids will rise and succeed.

#116 Mail in ballots on 08.15.21 at 9:22 pm

It’s not a slam dunk with 5 million mail in ballots.

Dude u have lost it, TRUDEAU WILL GET 300 seats…

In NBA parlance it is called A STEAL.

THE SAME GAME PLAY FROM THE USSA, PERFECTED JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO

#117 Yukon Elvis on 08.15.21 at 9:23 pm

#102 Linley on 08.15.21 at 8:10 pm
SO WHO DO WE VOTE FOR? .. :/
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You could vote for the lesser of all the evils.

#118 Dr V on 08.15.21 at 9:25 pm

106 Ustabe/Garth. Thanks. Actually read it the other day. I think some lifetime contribution limit is coming because only “rich” people use TFSAs for investing.

#119 Bob in Hamilton on 08.15.21 at 9:25 pm

The suggestion was that tax could be imposed on accumulated balances above a certain limit. Doubtful, but possible. TFSAs were Trudeau’s first target. – Garth

The TFSA is a target rich environment for T2…it will be taxed somehow, someway….Spring 2022 budget.

#120 Millennial 1%er on 08.15.21 at 9:29 pm

Can’t wait for MORE taxes

#121 ShaftBurn on 08.15.21 at 9:32 pm

It will be a JT Liberal majority. Mark my words. I don’t care if 5% or 50% of Canadians vote for the Liberals, it will be a Liberal Majority.

#122 Parsonage on 08.15.21 at 9:36 pm

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#123 S.Bby on 08.15.21 at 9:51 pm

With Trudeau’s Covid bungling and now his Afghanistan refugee policy (I’ve heard many ppl are unhappy about this) he is walking on thin ice. Never mind all his scandals over the last few years and it’s hard to see how he can get any kind of majority. But then again, this Canada so …

#124 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 9:53 pm

#98 Linda on 08.15.21 at 7:56 pm
i’d vote for todays pup Teebo as PM. Pay would be treats, walks & tummy rubs:)

The election. JT is likely hoping the unprecedented spending (aka: bribe the voters with their own money – it works!) will bring in another 5 years of glib Lib. Only if a majority, of course. Here is the thing. Whoever comes in first will have to eventually deal with that staggering deficit/debt. Even the most starry eyed naive taxpayer will eventually realize the land of unicorns & fairy dust isn’t forever & that tax ogre will have to be dealt with. Frankly, if one of ‘the other’ parties does win, they will a) have to be the bearer of bad news regarding tax increases & b) will be blamed for the ugly results of said deficit/debt, regardless of who actually created it.
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Yep, that’s why I barely give rip who wins. Cons, maybe we will get pointed in the right direction (maybe). Libs, I get richer and maybe these nimrod twit blockhead Libs get some mud on their faces.

I’ll be voting Con, because Trudeau is a frat-boi, and I don’t want anymore rich jock elite sh!thead politicians driving what once was a great country into the dirt.

Trudeau was doomed to fail right off the bat. A caucus full of identity politics fodder and activists. What is it now, 9 Libs getting booted, bailing, and not running for re-election now? Anyone that votes for this douchebag needs to give their head a shake.

It’s never ever been worse in Canada than Trudeau.

#125 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 10:15 pm

Let’s stop ******* around. Trudeau is an abomination to intelligent Canadians of all stripes. Appointing aboriginals to office, until they try to do what’s right – then unceremoniously giving them the boot. First post-national state, says Mr. Blackface. We’re all in this together? Right, as long as you own hard and liquid assets – otherwise you’re screwed. Identity politics galore, stupid costumes, feminist – until the Ladies start acting out, bonfires fuelled with government revenues, decimation of our resource sectors, pandering, hating, SJW insanity, there’s just no end to Trudeau’s stupidity.

We are officially ultra-******. We can thank Trudeau and his blockhead caucus for that. Don’t matter who gets in now, it’s just a matter of flat-lining the destruction or making it even worse.

I feel for you if you’re under 35. Keep your international options open, ‘cause it ain’t getting better here anytime soon.

#126 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 10:20 pm

#120 Millennial 1%er on 08.15.21 at 9:29 pm
Can’t wait for MORE taxes
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Don’t matter who wins, Trudeau has cast this in iron.

Repeat: Don’t matter who wins, Trudeau has cast this in iron.

#127 VladTor on 08.15.21 at 10:26 pm

I just check historical weather forecast for September 20. Should be clear sky and for sure no rain.

So, I realized that in such good weather I can voting instead outdoor activity only…. if with ballot I will receive gift card for box of beer with my obligation to vote for party which issue gift card. I’m honest person and will keep my promises.
Lib’s can win majority using this idea only.

If Li

#128 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 10:38 pm

Trudeau and Trump have so much in common. Both white, both elite, both riding coat-tails, both arrogant, both famous thanks to others, both rich thanks to others, both front kick anyone who disagrees with them, both got a little “too forward” with women, both get stupid in front of a camera, both jocks, both wore blackface… ah, sorry, that was just Trudeau.

#129 yvr_lurker on 08.15.21 at 11:22 pm

Voted for T2 the last two elections with very little enthusiasm. It was not a mind-bending yes when dope was legalized. Frankly, I would have preferred it to be decriminalized, but not legaliized. Now everything seems a big mess, and there is no way I am voting for T2 and his band of social and cultural engineers trying to right every historic wrong, all the while giving out tons of $$$ to whatever cause knocks on his door. I am not happy with taking in 20K refugees into Canada from Afghanistan without really careful vetting. Does anyone want a repeat scenario that happened in France at the Bataclan in Paris in 2015. Indeed we need to help this crisis, but must be super-careful who comes into our country. I can’t see T2 putting rules in place to monitor this.

However, I have never voted CONS and the federal NDP (without someone like Layton) is way too radical for me. I would have voted for May on this occassion (throwing my ballot in the garbage essentially), but there is no way I can vote for the crazy Green leader.

Am looking for someone pragramatic, who can bring people together, and has risen a long way on THEIR OWN merits. Chretein, and Horgan (if he was a Fed) would get my vote.

For this one, I will not get off the couch… they are all weak candidates and am frankly not interested in participating….

#130 S.Bby on 08.15.21 at 11:39 pm

How bad will things have to get in Canada before Trudeau gets the boot?

#131 Soviet Capitalist on 08.16.21 at 12:06 am

Not mail-in ballots again :(

#132 ankitvadhiya on 08.16.21 at 12:26 am

Early today.
Interesting topic.
The Sahotas are the worst of the worst as far as “landlords” go but when we see landlords using “renovitions” to kick long term tenants to the street to “renovate” and then re rent for much higher prices…..voters will not be amused.
It doesnt matter how much money a developer shovels into the back pocket of a candidates election campaign…..
Angry voters that have been booted to the curb have long memories and politicians have the spines of jellyfish come election time.

I fully expect “expropriation without compensation” to start mushrooming everywhere…. with help from the cheering internet socialistas.
Its pretty hard to argue when there are people freezing in the streets and houses/condos sit empty for months or year because someone doesnt want the hassle

#133 macroman on 08.16.21 at 12:35 am

Buy lumber futures, there is no future for lumber in the BC interior.

I gata bug out, cheers…

#134 Nonplused on 08.16.21 at 1:43 am

#74 Bezengy on 08.15.21 at 6:40 pm
#60 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 5:57 pm
#45 AR on 08.15.21 at 4:16 pm

More taxes for the wealthy make sense. More taxes for the upper middle class make sense. Tax cuts are and have always been for the corporations. The execs buy mansions and boats, burn +++ oil and cut wages. Canada can do better.

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Everybody who says that means ‘people other than me can pay more taxes and do better’. Do you really think paying 54% tax is overly beneficial?

Canada hardly has rich and, as Nonplused has pointed out several times, the country is already at peak tax.

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So this week I had a well drilled at the camp, not my idea but wifey said it was her basic human right to have clean drinking water.

Total cost $17,000
Income tax paid $5000
MOE fee paid $1800
HST fee paid $1300

So, I get water (no mansion or new boat) and the government gets $8200.00. Criminal. The wife’s happy though. I just need to finish the job, new pump, pipe, cable, etc. Justin should make another $1000 or so before I can turn the tap on.

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Bezengy, just trying to understand your numbers;

Was the cost to drill the well $17,000, or does that number include the taxes and the well cost $8,900 to drill?

In any case, it appears you paid $8,100 in taxes and fees for a job that cost $8,900. That’s 91% of the cost of the job, or an effective tax rate of 46%! Yikes! For a water well!

But even if the cost to drill was $17,000 these rates are still 48% and 32% respectively.

But don’t worry. The millennials will drop by to point out that because you have a well and they don’t, you should pay more taxes. Perhaps a “wealth tax” on the well?

We are at peak tax, especially in BC. I don’t know how they do it out there. I guess they make enough on real estate that it doesn’t matter if their whole pay check goes to the government.

#135 Diamond Dog on 08.16.21 at 1:43 am

#77 Sail Away on 08.15.21 at 6:47 pm

It’s because wildfires are such an obvious marker of climate change. Last year it was Australia and the west coast. This year, still the west coast, the Mediterranean and East Russia. In 2017 and 2018, it was BC. It’s not just the one off events, it’s the magnitude and frequency.

Take for example, the state of California. California lost 4.4 million acres last year. Divided by 2.59 acres to a hectare, 1.7 million hectares. There are 40.4 million hectares of land in Cali and half of it is burnable, the rest is desert or semi arid desert. Essentially, 4.2% of California burned last year and of burnable Cali, more like 8%. This year, the Dixie fire is the largest single fire in their state’s human recorded history.

8% is a lot, especially to the nearly 40 million people who live there. The red suns and moons, the uncertainty… there is every complaint under the sun for wanting to leave Cali from high real estate prices, high taxes (highest personal taxes in the U.S.), over regulation, too much and not enough religious freedom etc., but the big attraction to the sunshine state has always been it’s coastal eye candy. Add long term drought and water rations, record wildfire seasons and smoke filled air quality coupled with charred landscape and it gets a lot easier to talk about leaving California.

California has led in so many ways, from it’s schools and technology to it’s GDP, (5th largest in the world as of 2020 if Cali was a nation) Cali is thee tech capital of the world. Of all the reasons why that could change, or why Californians would want to leave such a historically successful state, each reason is borne out of what some might argue to be some measure of success save one, the reason that isn’t about want, but need to run away from. Climate change.

https://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/international/californias-dry-season-is-turning-into-a-permanent-state-of-being/

#136 Diamond Dog on 08.16.21 at 7:13 am

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/siberia-wildfires-burn-more-9-144558238.html

I stand corrected, with a Youtube search, Siberian wildfires are now 9.2 million hectares according to the Russian forestry as of August 12th. NBC carried the same story. This is the size equivalent of Portugal or 10% of the total land area of the province of Ontario. It could never happen here though right?

The hots are getting hotter, the wets getting wetter and the Colorado river that 40 million people are relying on is drying up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CADLfXOhkU

But, its election time and not to worry, the Conservatives will “secure the environment” by ending the carbon tax, protecting jobs. Business as usual, according to their video:

https://www.conservative.ca/plan/secure-the-environment/

We compete with big polluters who don’t tax carbon, so… the Conservatives will require 30% of new vehicles to be zero emissions by 2030! Such a high bar, such lofty goals. Carbon tariffs will be introduced to nations like China. (we are the top polluter of the G20 per capita, are we not? This should go over well) I watched the video to the end. The entire time a politician’s lips were moving.

#137 Bezengy on 08.16.21 at 7:44 am

#134 Nonplused

Bezengy, just trying to understand your numbers.

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Total cost including HST was $11500. Well drilling is much like other services we talk about here, like pouring concrete. Those who know how to get stuff done can charge a premium. To pay for the well I needed to earn and pay tax on 17k.

#138 Steven on 08.16.21 at 8:22 am

Gath, say goodbye to TFSA’s being tax free, primary residences being tax free. Also, dividends tax rates, capital gains tax rates will all be higher by at least 35% so if you pay 25% capital gains, dividend rate, it will be 34% in short order after the election.

Also, more carbon taxes by at least 50% higher, a much higher GST/HST from 13% to 20%, a new 7% tax on buying and selling your house, condo, cottage, cabin, whatever real estate, interest, investment fees paid for investing money will not be tax deductible anymore.

I would not be surprised by a covid tax not called that would be put on all healthcare related products, services too. An environment tax say 10% on all mobile devices.

#139 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 8:52 am

@#62 S Bby
“A selfish attempted power grab by Trudeau using the taxpayer’s dime.”

+++

Sadly.
Its just a continuation of what he’s been doing for the past 18 months ….or did you miss that 380 Billion blown on Covid?

#140 earthboundmisfit on 08.16.21 at 8:54 am

The CBC headline read “O’Toole opposes mandatory vaccines for pubic servants, travelers”. My first thought was “way to go Erin, blow it on the first day of the campaign”. Would that be a record?

#141 Polozified on 08.16.21 at 9:37 am

If the Bloc Quebecois blocks the Liberals from getting a majority, vive le Quebec libre I guess?

As a GTA resident I recognize that my neighbours have chugged the red Kool-Aid, so it’s really up to those not here. Good luck!

#142 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 9:42 am

@#116 Mail In Ballots
“THE SAME GAME PLAY FROM THE USSA, PERFECTED JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO”
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Bwahahaha. Good one.

I also heard the Cabal that runs everything is using mid control from their “secret” bunker under the Denver Airport.

It’s true.
I red it on the internet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ber0IFtyRno

#143 cramar on 08.16.21 at 9:52 am

Yup! Just told the wife last night that it would be comic irony if TJ got another minority and actually lost a few seats. Entirely possible if the Bloc picks up some seats in PQ.

#144 Tony on 08.16.21 at 9:59 am

This must be the real reason seniors 75 or older on OAS are getting $500 this month. Nicely timed by Justin.

#145 Sail Away on 08.16.21 at 10:02 am

Playing the blame game:

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/567981-wall-street-journal-blasts-bidens-pathetic-denial-blaming-afghanistan-crisis

On the other hand, for heroin junkies or those considering a new hobby, the Taliban’s takeover ensures an uninterrupted supply.

#146 Tony on 08.16.21 at 10:04 am

Re: #138 Steven on 08.16.21 at 8:22 am

An increased capital gains tax could be slapped on the rich in Canada judging by what Biden did in America.

#147 Dragonfly 58 on 08.16.21 at 10:11 am

It’s actually a very simple situation for middle class and lower Beavers.
You have a steerage ticket on the RMS Titanic , whoever is your Captain has very little to do with your outcome.

#148 Tonyt on 08.16.21 at 10:26 am

Re: #57 cuke and tomato picker on 08.15.21 at 5:17 pm

The OAS will be raised 10 percent no matter who wins the election unless interest rates move sharply higher. Annuities are getting hammered and the old people will be forced to leave Canada due to the cost of living, dwindling income and rising inflation.

#149 Lana on 08.16.21 at 10:49 am

I would not be surprised if Trudeau, Freeland Liberals nationalize the economy, businesses, the Bank of Canada. Stephen Harper warned about Canada falling into socialism.

#150 mhfgwsc on 08.16.21 at 11:06 am

“It was interesting that Bloomberg carried a piece on Friday about the (likely) inevitable post-vote taxation of some TFSA assets,”

Oh look, another thing you were wrong about Garth. You were so belligerently angry at the very suggestion that the TFSA might be raided a few short months ago. Stamping your little feet in rejection of the idea

Walk it back and pretend it never happened again I guess!

#151 Gary on 08.16.21 at 11:17 am

I think they want to further restrict movement and travel first through new documentation and in the future only approval by them is because they are running out of food, the electricity grid, energy systems are all falling apart and the government, workforce is becoming dysfunctional especially impacting ports, shipping, rail etc.

I have seen this under communism as I am from Poland. When the government wanted an excuse to restrict people, they would hide behind the fact that there is no problem of production of food, other goods and keeping up energy, electricity systems plus keeping up the big, inefficient government, bureaucracy and transportation, shipping systems were fine, working okay but they really were not.

#152 Blame Game on 08.16.21 at 11:22 am

Millennial1%er, can’t wait for everyone to become poorer and starve.

#153 Tarot Card on 08.16.21 at 11:22 am

Thanks for the blog Garth
I honestly don’t know who to vote for n terms of our leaders. Been conservative most of my life.

Been voting green for the last few elections as a protest, and now we have a green guy in Nanaimo.

I decided I am going to do the right thing this election and vote for the MP who I feel is the best candidate for my riding. Are they well spoken and Passionate about issues? Will they bring forward my issues?

I am going to listen do research and try and pick the person that will represent me in Parliament.

So Garth do you have any suggestions for additional questions to ask the candidates

1. Will you vote in Parliament in the best interests of the riding you represent or tote party line?
3. You say all the parties blah blah but how do you personally feel on the following issues?
Make a list
Balanced budgets
Encouraging innovation to build a better economy
Do you understand the budget process
Do you agree with you leader when he calls Canadians Racists
Do you agree with your leader on………
Do you agree with ……..

I think this is a better approach rather than whining and complaining?
Your thoughts
Thanks

#154 Dharma Bum on 08.16.21 at 11:29 am

The results of this upcoming pseudo-election will be revealing.

My premise is that Canadians have become, for the most part, a bunch of welfare handout addicted ignorant lazy arse rubes who are happy to vote in a douche who buys their votes.

Whoever promises the most free stuff, cash for doing nothing, and virtue signalling ad nauseum will win the voes of the stupid, lazy, ignorant, social justice warrior losers of this country.

That is likely to be Justin Trudeau.

I really hope I am wrong, but I got a bad feeling about this.

I do love the ad, though. Stolen right out of a Terry Gilliam Monty Python Flying Circus bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iggy2vCh0ng

#155 Canada Votes 2021 on 08.16.21 at 11:36 am

Polozified , The Bloc Quebecois will get between 52 to 58 seats. This will block Trudeau Federal Liberals in their majority dream.

Also, Trudeau will lose alot of seats in BC and prairie provinces. He will be luck to win with a minority. Look at last time.

#156 Planetgoofy on 08.16.21 at 11:38 am

#137 Bezengy on 08.16.21 at 7:44 am
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On costing the depth matters.
So does the ground…
Over burden takes pipe. Rock doesnt.
Oil and pipe keeps going up.
I drilled a 175ft hole with pipe 15 years ago.
$7,000. Now it would cost $17,000.
I have 3.5 acres my book cost on the property is $35,000 from back then. I got offered a million by a car / RV dealer. I turned it down.
Its alllllllllll inflation.
Ps my buddy and neighbours the driller.

#157 Jesse on 08.16.21 at 11:41 am

#46 AR on 08.15.21 at 4:16 pm
The execs buy mansions and boats, burn +++ oil and cut wages. Canada can do better.
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What a typical take from a latte sippin’ 416er hat has no idea how the real world works. Everyone ‘burns oil’. Do you eat food – produce or livestock? Agriculture is one of the largest users of diesel fuel. Do you drive? Do you own a refrigerator? Do you buy goods and services? All powered by fossil fuels.

If you really want to be “holier than thou” then set an example, rather than typing on a mass produced, globalized product built on the back of fossil fuels go live in the woods. Canadians are far too smug and narcissistic to get rid of Trudeau, because he represents the nation well. Take a look in the mirror, Canada.

#158 Don Guillermo on 08.16.21 at 12:08 pm

#140 earthboundmisfit on 08.16.21 at 8:54 am
The CBC headline read “O’Toole opposes mandatory vaccines for pubic servants, travelers”. My first thought was “way to go Erin, blow it on the first day of the campaign”. Would that be a record?
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Another thought is “way to go CBC, you’ve quickly jumped on the LPC campaign to secure your future billions $$.”

#159 Damifino on 08.16.21 at 12:26 pm

#131 Soviet Capitalist

Not mail-in ballots again :(
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I could vote by carrier pigeon for all the help it would bring to any opposition party in Vancouver Center.

Still, I will vote. It will make me feel better to put an X next to anyone but Liberal. Not going to the polls is default support for T2. I find that a distasteful thing.

#160 Phylis on 08.16.21 at 12:31 pm

So, if the current government is admittedly dysfunctional, requiring an election to fix it, and a second minority achieved by said dysfunctionals, should they be required to quit due to their then proven incompetence?

#161 Planetgoofy on 08.16.21 at 12:46 pm

IHCTD9
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ABSOLUTLY EXCELLENT work IHCTD9!!
My sentiments also.
After running multiple business for decades one can really see guys like him for what he is.
If I pulled his shit Id be up for charges on multiple conflicts of interest. HE CANT EVEN LIE well.
But Jag OMG….I think he failed math. The idiotic (retarded on all levels and Garth you think Mad Max is nuts he doesn’t hold a candle) election promises he’s making = VENEZUALLA

#162 Wrk.dover on 08.16.21 at 12:51 pm

#137 Bezengy on 08.16.21 at 7:44 am
#134 Nonplused

Bezengy, just trying to understand your numbers.

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Total cost including HST was $11500. Well drilling is much like other services we talk about here, like pouring concrete. Those who know how to get stuff done can charge a premium. To pay for the well I needed to earn and pay tax on 17k.
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To work with concrete you need a shovel, wheelbarrow, rake, trowel, screed, level and float.

To drill a well, you need a license, a big honking rig on a big truck with a welder and stuff.

You got a good deal maybe. They charge by the foot, did they stop drilling at the water for you?

My 40 foot churn dilled well is rated commercially bottlable.

The 200 foot rotary drilled wells at houses either side of me have all kinds of apparatuses to compensate for excess iron and sulfur.

I have grade 12 and had the matching income, but I research well, before I spend.

#163 Wrk.dover on 08.16.21 at 12:53 pm

Edit; Churn drilled. (it is like a pile driver)

#164 James on 08.16.21 at 1:00 pm

#128 IHCTD9 on 08.15.21 at 10:38 pm

Trudeau and Trump have so much in common. Both white, both elite, both riding coat-tails, both arrogant, both famous thanks to others, both rich thanks to others, both front kick anyone who disagrees with them, both got a little “too forward” with women, both get stupid in front of a camera, both jocks, both wore blackface… ah, sorry, that was just Trudeau
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Both of them had fathers with very, very questionable morals and covertly were anti (cultures that were not of their own). We ll not so secretive really. It really rubbed on on one of them that was blatantly insane. Lets see how the other plays this info out about daddy and his White Paper that proposed to abolish all legal documents that had previously existed, including (but not limited to) the Indian Act, and all existing treaties within Canada. He and Chretien proposed to assimilate all First Nations as an ethnic group equal to other Canadian citizens. Tisk, tisk

#165 James on 08.16.21 at 1:01 pm

#143 cramar on 08.16.21 at 9:52 am

Yup! Just told the wife last night that it would be comic irony if TJ got another minority and actually lost a few seats. Entirely possible if the Bloc picks up some seats in PQ.
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If that played out it would be priceless.

#166 James on 08.16.21 at 1:04 pm

#139 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 8:52 am

@#62 S Bby
“A selfish attempted power grab by Trudeau using the taxpayer’s dime.”

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Sadly.
Its just a continuation of what he’s been doing for the past 18 months ….or did you miss that 380 Billion blown on Covid?
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But he wants to make us all poster children for the rest of the world to follow. It will only cost us our souls and everything we owned by working hard to earn it. Whats another 380 billion so he can be on the UN council or Esquire Mag.

#167 Yuge Tesla Fan on 08.16.21 at 1:04 pm

TesLOL. Smashy smashy.

https://www.ft.com/content/afb75ffd-44eb-4ae3-8bca-ae830fa52111

#168 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.21 at 1:37 pm

@#166 James
“Whats another 380 billion so he can be on the UN council or Esquire Mag”

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Hah!
Even the corrupt lapdogs would never….ever….have that idiot in their midst.
Canada might punt his self important derrière into a UN seat …..but A UN Clowncil spokesperson…..?
Never.

#169 Doug t on 08.16.21 at 1:40 pm

My wife believes that the true puppet master behind T2’s Socialism Project is his wife

#170 Doug t on 08.16.21 at 1:41 pm

#57 cuke

GOSH thats huuuuuuge …..NOT

#171 Dmitry on 08.16.21 at 2:11 pm

“what a ding-dong Max Bernier is”

Sure, Garth, put down the only guy who will stand up for your freedom.

#172 Diamond Dog on 08.16.21 at 2:12 pm

https://www.msn.com/…/siberian-wildfire…/vp-AANhjUC

Greenpeace estimates this years Siberian wildfires have burned around 62,000 square miles. Times 2.59 square km’s to a square mile, 160,580 square km’s. Times 100 = 16,000,000 hectares.

To put it into perspective, 16 million hectares, California is 40.4 million square hectares. 16 million hectares is roughly 40% of the land area of California… or 17% of the province of BC. The Russian forestry has this year’s Siberian wildfires pegged at 9.2 million hectares as of August 12th reported by Yahoo and MSNBC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G23M6RbNOQ

Whoever is right, 9.2 million hectares as reported by the Russian forestry or 16 million hectares claimed by Greenpeace, 16 million hectares would put this fire at 41.5 million acres, approaching the 2003 Siberian Taiga Fires consuming 47 Million Acres, also known as the largest wildfires ever recorded in human history.

There is a very real chance of this fire becoming the largest wildfire on record globally this week and few of us have even heard of it.

#173 Jenna on 08.16.21 at 2:13 pm

Bye, Bye Trudeau,

You messed it up BIG TIME !! Spoiled brat, reactionary policies…if policies do not work out or there is resistance…throw someone from the party under the bus to appease the sheep. He has good hair though.

Conservatives do not have a chance…not after Steven Harper the tyrant. The person that becomes the next PM must love the Canadian people and country !

Watch out for the guy with ideas and has mass appeal…NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh.

#174 kommykim on 08.16.21 at 2:42 pm

Doesn’t every election triggered by the incumbent smell opportunistic?

#175 morrey on 08.16.21 at 2:43 pm

#165 James on 08.16.21 at 1:01 pm

count on it! many folks that voted for JT last time, that i have talked to are telling me that they won’t be this time.

And a few small business owners have told me that it is impossible to find part time help…. CERBs has made everyone lazy

#176 Stacey on 08.16.21 at 4:24 pm

Jegmeet Singh will be lucky to come close to what Jack Layton did. Trudeau will not be in a majority but mostly a minority if that. Conservative O’toole could become in a minority government but some area of Toronto always has questionable vote counts.

#177 morrey on 08.17.21 at 12:14 pm

stacey: it;s “Jagmeet ”
jeeez.

Otherwise great comment!

#178 westcdn on 08.17.21 at 2:07 pm

There is an adage that the greatest curse is a BIL more successful. He sold drugs via Apotex Inc. He knew more about the drugs than the doctors. I am surprised the Barry Sherman murder has not been explained.

Anyway he was the most successful salesman they had. He won every sales promotion they had and travelled the world on their dime. Then new management was brought in and they did like his attitude – he was fired. He wrote to Barry and was granted a serious severance.

He asked a friend at Loblaws for a job. He ended up to be be in charge of buying small pharm and he was good because he understood their business. Such as empires are born.

I don’t like what I see in the equity market but that is me. I see NXR.UN is offering a treasury sale. I am tempted but I have to sell to buy. Maybe time to sell my losers but too early to tell unless I am a complete fool.