The bottom

At 11:37 am Eastern on July 29th, this blog might have hit bottom. At that time K. Lech, from somewhere in Toronto, posted this:

In what sort of sick, moribund, morally and spiritually bankrupt society do aging cowards like Mr. Turner sitting on mounds of money sacrifice the developing bodies and minds of their young, to satisfy their own neuroses?

Moments later, this…

Garth, I am disappointed, but somehow not totally surprised, that you would throw in your lot with Nazi doctors who had to be hanged for their unnecessary, unwanted, and harmful medical experiments.

There ya go. I’m now a wealthy, old, cowardly Nazi engaged in the cruel vivisection of the young. Amazing where writing a free blog of financial advice, real estate trends, canine fancying and macroeconomics will take you in life. Maybe this is why Dorothy has started goosestepping around me.

No, we won’t drag out this vaccine thing, but because it’s my site and I’m the reigning dictator, here are a couple of final thoughts.

First, having just read almost 400 comments (and a slew more too gross to be published) I conclude there is one common thread to every anti-vax message. It’s fear. They’re afraid of needles, fearful of side-effects, scared of the science behind vaccines, worried about long-term consequences and terrified of becoming sickened by succumbing to inoculation. In short, pansies. This is then cloaked in the bravado of ‘freedom’, libertarianism and Trumpist iconoclasm. It’s augmented with the usual straw man arguments – big Pharma is to blame; big government is the enemy; anyone supporting either is corrupt, bought-out or drifting.

Layered over this is the deep scientific learning that only Facebook, YouTube and Parler can provide. This assists IT guys, florists, equipment salespeoplekind and bus drivers in becoming virologists, infectious disease experts and epidemiologists. They, in turn, use social media to impart their learning to others. And, presto, 51% of the unvaxed believe there are microchips in the serum. Or the CEO of Pfizer won’t take his own medicine. Or that Covid is mutating wildly within the bodies of the blissfully vaccinated.

Second (and this is worse) is a theme I touched on some days ago. We have lost our commonality of purpose. A global pandemic of historic nature should have brought people together. The opposite happened. What a loss. A loss of life and liberty. A loss of trust.

The pandemic has increased social stress, kept people apart, broken familiar bonds, disrupted school, work and leisure life. The Black Lives Matter movement might not have erupted with such force and determination had society been functioning as normal. In Canada the residential schools issue – centred on misdeeds of a century ago by people long since passed – was probably exacerbated by general feelings of loss, victimization and injustice as people were forced out of jobs, schools and relationships.

Aiding and abetting it have been politicians only too happy to mine the divisions among us. Now we’re separated irreparably. Indigenous and settlers. Straight and LBGT+. Owners and renters. Vaxed and unvaxed. Climate changers and deniers. By race. Gender. Pronoun. Region and language.

In the past, as you know, citizens lined up so that measles and polio could be eradicated. It worked. Gone. We sent 18-year-olds into the trenches and killing fields to win some world wars. And we did. Now we see millions afraid of a needle, refusing to help end a public health emergency that has killed 26,000 of us, and claiming it’s in the pursuit of liberty.

Face it. Alone we are victims, prey to those who exploit that. Together we’re strong. Fear and weakness lead to really bad outcomes, as a person or a nation. The time has come to stop the apologies, the hesitation and the divisions.

Lay down that keyboard. Find your conscience. Take a look around. You live in a favoured place, in a time of promise. Act like it.

About the picture: “We do love your blog by the way as the mandatory suck up line,” writes Nick. “This is Lulu and she is almost 7. This picture is at Furry Creek in BC. We got her a life jacket as she is always going in the water to save people. She’s a good swimmer, but thought this might add a bit better protection. It’s the biggest one we could find. She was at 180 pounds, but is on a diet and has lost 15 pounds to date. We are so proud of her. The best family dog you could ask for, we love her so much.”

348 comments ↓

#1 just a dude on 07.29.21 at 3:00 pm

Garth,

I almost stood up at my desk and applauded you after reading this latest brilliant post of yours. Thank you Sir. Beautifully written.

#2 Brianw on 07.29.21 at 3:05 pm

Anger brings out the best in you Garth- great blog today!

#3 Some Hound on 07.29.21 at 3:12 pm

Well said. Thank you.

#4 mitzerboyakaQueencitykidd on 07.29.21 at 3:13 pm

Dogs are great
beer is good
Anti-vaxxers are crazy

#5 Ballingsford on 07.29.21 at 3:13 pm

Garth, I was surprised at the number of anti-vaccine comments. I mean really surprised! Some of your blog dogs are not as smart as I thought they were.

I hope they never have to go fight in a war for us.

Maybe we should have a vaccine passport to vote. Then we might get intelligent voters.

#6 BCdweller on 07.29.21 at 3:14 pm

> A global pandemic of historic nature should have brought people together. The opposite happened. What a loss. A loss of life and liberty. A loss of trust.

Yeah, nothing like a mandatory injection or strawmen to bring people together.

Also, you don’t get to lament the loss of liberty after advocating for a population-wide forced medical treatment.

> In the past, as you know, citizens lined up so that measles and polio could be eradicated. It worked. Gone. […] Now we see millions afraid of a needle, refusing to help end a public health emergency that has killed 26,000 of us
Glossing over the fact that measles and polio are way deadlier than covid, 80% of eligible people did chose the jab (and more to come), so I don’t know what you are talking about. There will always be dissenters. The opposite would be the sign of a pretty unhealthy society.

> claiming it’s in the pursuit of liberty.
Who’s refusing the vaxx for liberty? Refusing the vaxx (stupid) and refusing to make it mandatory instead of working to bring people onboard are 2 very different things. And the second is very obviously a pursuit (or rather, a safekeeping) of liberty.

#7 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.29.21 at 3:16 pm

Gas on the anti vaxx fire….
400 + comments?

#8 Not Fooled on 07.29.21 at 3:17 pm

All of the anti-vaxx comments have one thing in common; they elevate the wants of the individual above the greater demonstrated needs of society.

Just like those who would impose the creeds of CRT, Queer Theory, and other assorted crackpot belief systems on the masses to further individual agendas.

In a word, selfishness.

#9 TurnerNation on 07.29.21 at 3:20 pm

lol I swear this is not my post; #295 Dina on 07.29.21 at 8:19 am

— Oooh will oil break out? https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=d1

— Getting ready for the permanent rolling lockdowns. Some claim Austrailia is the test zone for all of this, a nice homogeneous isolated island. (Iceland, same, was the first to be hit in the 2008 GFC)

.Prime Minister Scott Morrison says every Australian will have access to the coronavirus vaccine by Christmas. (9news.com.au) However he added higher vaccination rates won’t necessarily stop lockdowns.
“I can’t guarantee there won’t be more lockdowns,” Mr Morrison said.

.”A show of force like no other. That’s the warning from police to anyone considering taking part in an anti-lockdown protest.” (Sydney, Australia) (twitter.com)

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/defence-force-called-in-to-help-with-sydney-covid-19-lockdown-enforcement-20210729-p58e5e.html
“Defence Force called in to help with Sydney COVID-19 lockdown enforcement.
The Australian Defence Force will assist with enforcement of Sydney’s lockdown following a formal request to Prime Minister Scott Morrison from NSW Police.”

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– The latest data science is in.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/santa-clara-countys-covid-19-death-toll-drops-by-505-after-data-change/2585739/
“It brings the county’s death toll down from 2,201 to 1,696 individuals, according to the county’s Public Health Department”

#10 CEW9 on 07.29.21 at 3:20 pm

Right there with you, Garth. Wishing more politicians (including armchair ones) paid more attention to the statistical numbers rather than the polling ones.

Alberta yesterday announced no more isolation requirements for close contacts of covid cases, and is winding contact tracing and all mandatory quarantine by August 19. Whatever else one may think of Alberta’s government, they have consistently stated that the goal is managing numbers of hospitalized covid cases, and mainly those in ICU.

We are doing just that. Since Alberta’s ‘re-opening’ on July 1st both ICU cases and overall hospitalizations have continuously dropped even as recorded cases have climbed.

Vaccinations work. They prevent bad outcomes of this germ. The times of fear are over. We just need to get out of heads, readjust our mindsets and realize there is still great big wonderful world out there.

#11 Unmasked and Unvaxxed on 07.29.21 at 3:20 pm

“The Unvaxxed are a bunch of scardy cats!” He says as he gives up all his rights and rushes to get an experimental vaccine for a disease that he has more than a 99.9% chance of surviving.

#12 Prince Polo on 07.29.21 at 3:23 pm

A subsection of society is powerless, and the only way that they can feel powerful is to reject the vaccine. By this logic, they can reassure themselves that they are smarter than science and restore the illusion of control over their own domains. Alas, they fall prey to the conspiracy theorists who have the same weakness.

#13 truefacts on 07.29.21 at 3:23 pm

“…there is one common thread to every anti-vax message. It’s fear…fearful of side-effects, …long-term consequences…” – Garth
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Bingo!

Cliff-jumping…I watch a while to make sure there are no dangers…

Blindly trust a rushed, unapproved vaccine when the powers that be don’t have their sh$t together?… “Don’t wear masks, yes do, take the AZ, no don’t, mix doses, no don’t,… Those that followed our fearless leader to line up for AZ now have to get a 3rd dose because many countries don’t recognize it! Are three doses recommended?

Trust “science”. Like thalidomide – how’d that turn out? Or the Titanic – “so safe we don’t even need lifeboats!”
Or the Columbia Space Shuttle – followed by Challenger. Or the Ford Pinto…$$$ more important than lives.

BTW – people VOLUNTEERED (Canada) to fight the Nazis, nobody was forced! But the Germans did FORCE their soldiers to fight. Who should we follow?

#14 Toronto_CA on 07.29.21 at 3:27 pm

Can we get back to financial advice? This is boring bait.

#15 april on 07.29.21 at 3:27 pm

#6- So ignorant it’s pathetic.

#16 Prince Polo on 07.29.21 at 3:27 pm

Forgot to add:
*tongue-in-cheek*
Despite these super-geniuses in pharma and gov’t conspiring to inject us with microchips, I still don’t feel the need to use Bing as my primary search engine! Epic fail on Bill Gates’ part…

Do y’all understand sarcasm yet?

#17 Jeff on 07.29.21 at 3:29 pm

I could probably count on two hands the number of posts I’ve missed in fourteen or fifteen years, Garth. I tell anybody who will listen that this site is a national treasure. As always, keep doing what you’re doing and block out the negativity and bile; no one has an inalienable right to a published comment here where you’ve pored so much of your time, effort, humour and love of country into. Cheers!

#18 jenna on 07.29.21 at 3:30 pm

Bravo Garth !!

#19 Todd Harper on 07.29.21 at 3:30 pm

Well said Garth. We could be stronger together. As you stated, and I agree – those who do not vaccinate – In short, (are) pansies. Keep up the great work.

#20 Dolce Vita on 07.29.21 at 3:31 pm

Hard to find what unites: thus, throw rocks at glass houses…that’s easier to do.

A World that has half its population under IQ 100 yet think they are smarter than Doctors and Medical Professionals confounded by a pandemic but doing all they can to save lives.

Does not boggle the mind one bit that they should not be listened too by people too stupid to know they are stupid.

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Yes My Liege you are still that to me for speaking out and today not bowing to the two bricks short of a full load nutters.

#21 zxcvbnm on 07.29.21 at 3:32 pm

Hey So basically I’m just gonna not take the vaccine
I Know….. UGH I know…
It’s just that I’m not gonna take it is all HAHAHAHAHRHAHAHA HARAHARHARH

#22 Ok, Doomer on 07.29.21 at 3:32 pm

Have you noticed the complete absence of the words “Melting Pot” in the media over the past few years?

I guess the Tech Overlords have figured out that there’s more money to be made in selling axes and also being paid to sharpen them.

No $$ to be made in telling stories where everyone just gets along.

#23 SmallTownSteve on 07.29.21 at 3:35 pm

Antivaxxers are just going to end up being Darwin awards. Natural selection at its finest. Never before have I witnessed so many willing to play Russian roulette while telling themselves the mantra vaccines are the devil. Just look at the math dumbdumbs, over 90% of new cases are amongst unvaccinated people. Perhaps those that are willfully unvaccinated should have to pay for their own medical bills and be disqualified from any government assistance…

#24 Senator Bluto on 07.29.21 at 3:35 pm

#13 truefacts on 07.29.21 at 3:23 pm
“…there is one common thread to every anti-vax message. It’s fear…fearful of side-effects, …long-term consequences…” – Garth
___________________________________

Bingo!

Cliff-jumping…I watch a while to make sure there are no dangers…

Blindly trust a rushed, unapproved vaccine when the powers that be don’t have their sh$t together?… “Don’t wear masks, yes do, take the AZ, no don’t, mix doses, no don’t,… Those that followed our fearless leader to line up for AZ now have to get a 3rd dose because many countries don’t recognize it! Are three doses recommended?

Trust “science”. Like thalidomide – how’d that turn out? Or the Titanic – “so safe we don’t even need lifeboats!”
Or the Columbia Space Shuttle – followed by Challenger. Or the Ford Pinto…$$$ more important than lives.

BTW – people VOLUNTEERED (Canada) to fight the Nazis, nobody was forced! But the Germans did FORCE their soldiers to fight. Who should we follow?

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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No!!! Who’s with me?? Yeah!!!!

#25 T-Rev on 07.29.21 at 3:37 pm

Garth,

Of all the insightful and prescient social commentaries you’ve made on your blog, this was the most powerful and accurate depiction of the affliction society is currently suffering from. I couldn’t agree more. Without commonality of purpose, without a shared vision centered on commonly held values and beliefs, society will crumble and inevitably fail unless something big enough comes along to unify us. I had hoped it would be Covid. Unfortunately it looks like it will take more more horrid things, or perhaps, most horrid of all, nothing will.

I’m not sure if you’ve read Sapiens, by Yuval Noah Harari, but it’s an excellent read on the history of our species. The most powerful premise of the book is that the single biggest thing that has allowed for human progress is not our bipedalism, it’s not our opposable thumbs, not our ability to develop and utilize technology; it’s our ability to communicate and believe in a common set of abstract ideas. Without common purpose (i.e. a shared religion, whether it be an ancient one, modern one, or a religion such as “humanism”, “liberalism”, “capitalism”, or “representative democracy”), people cannot get along in group sizes greater than a couple hundred individuals at most. The one thing that has allowed us to progress beyond murderous barbarians competing over the choicest fields, rivers, and mates, is our ability to believe in a common purpose. This allows us to work together, often altruistically, in larger and larger groups that allow us to leverage the resources of millions in the pursuit of progress.

If we lose this unity of purpose, we lose society. It’s a simple as that. It sounds extreme, but the ultimate result of a society that continues to divide itself is the failure of that society. I encourage everyone to read that book, and let that premise sink in. I can’t write like you or Yuval, but I’m intuitive enough to see this and imagine the terrible outcomes if we don’t start celebrating our shared values and champion our common cause, instead of focusing on the petty and small things that divide us.

#26 Rook on 07.29.21 at 3:40 pm

Allow me to steel man, to the best of my ability, the rationale for getting vaxxed:

1. Covid is a novel and deadly disease that, according to Worldometer, has killed call it 4.210 million people worldwide.

2. The vaccine is safe and effective against current strains and mutations of Covid19. We can see this in numbers dropping alongside increased vaccine uptakes. At least in the last 6 months. We’ll see what happens in the next few.

3. While it’s still possible to catch and apparently transmit Covid when vaccinated, it greatly lowers your chance of serious illness and hospitalization from the virus. So, wear your darn mask.

4. Serious side-effects of the vaccine are rare, and certainly less severe (for the most part) than a serious bout of Covid19. Caveat: an honest actor must admit that we’re basing the long-term safety of the mRNA vaccines on recency bias. It’s never been used before at this or any scale, so we won’t have long-term data until ‘long term’ has happened. This is the leap of faith we’re all making by trusting the scientists that there won’t be some unanticipated side-effect sometime down the road. But for now, it seems as safe and effective as such things go.

5. The more people get vaccinated, the fewer pathways the virus has for transmission. At least, that’s the science behind herd immunity. But I’m not sure how that squares with number 3.

6. The sooner we reach herd immunity (I’ve no idea what it actually is for Covid, but let’s go somewhere above 85%), the sooner we can go back to whatever ‘normal’ is, and begin preparing for whatever comes next.

7. Unvaccinated people is where the next mutations are likely to occur, as they’re a breeding ground for mutation. (I’m actually unsure of this one on account of we don’t have antibiotic-resistant things because we under-use antibiotics, if you take my meaning. But we’ll take it as given until we get some evidence to the contrary).

8. Any subsequent spread, (or hospitalizations, or outbreaks, or hotspots), must then, therefore, be attributed largely to the vaccine hesitant (I refuse to insult by calling them anti-vax) resisting getting the vaccine.

9. Based on all this, talk to your doctor, and if s/he recommends the vaccine, get it. On balance of probabilities, a bout of covid will be worse for you and the community than a sore arm or a day’s worth of headache or pain, and will only delay whatever our version of Freedom Day will become.

Good enough? Good.

As I mentioned yesterday, the idea of a mandatory vaccine (by law, from the Federal or Provincial authorities) deeply concerns me. And that opinion isn’t likely to change, given how stuff like this has gone historically – as one commenter put it ‘the slope is so slipery as to be teflon.’ It’s also dishonest to compare covid19, which seems to mutate pretty readily, with polio and smallpox which don’t.

Now, to quote from today’s post:

“Aiding and abetting it have been politicians only too happy to mine the divisions among us. Now we’re separated irreparably. Indigenous and settlers. Straight and LBGT+. Owners and renters. Vaxed and unvaxed. Climate changers and deniers. By race. Gender. Pronoun. Region and language.”

I flat-out refuse to look at my fellow citizen, Joe Shmoe – who doesn’t want to get a vaccine – as the enemy, and blame him for anything. He and his wife Jane have no power whatsoever to determine what should and should not be open, who can and cannot work, and where I can and cannot go. They don’t.

I’d like to encourage everybody to resist the call to hate your neighbour. I’m definitely not going to get into somebody’s face about it, or work to ostracize them from society. That’s coercive and wrong. Everybody is scared, we’re all stressed, we’re all uncertain. But giving into THEIR demands that WE blame each other because THEY won’t let us out is, well, it’s playing into their hands. It’s divide-and-conquer tactics.

Because, remember what happened: elected politicians, unelected bureaucrats, and appointed health officials locked us down. They’re the ones who told us where to go, what to do, what could and could not be open, who you could and could not be with, and what you had to do in public. They did it. Not us.

Now, those very same people are going, “Hey, it’d be nice if we could avoid another lockdown, but if we have to, it will be the unvaccinated that made us do it. Don’t blame us, they’re making us do it. Stop hitting yourself.” That’s insidious, subtle, and WRONG. They locked us up with the stroke of a pen, and can set us free any time the feel like it.

Keep that in mind as we hurtle towards mandatory vaccinations, or vaccine passports, or whatever comes next. Elections are coming. I’m definitely not pointing at my neighbour as the bad guy. Neither should you.

#27 Chris L. on 07.29.21 at 3:40 pm

You read 400 comments and they only confirmed your original position? They have a word for that.

We’re NOT in this together, and we never will be – this wasn’t a war designed to bring countries solidarity. The virus is doing exactly as you say it is, and was designed to do – isolate and divide. If released by accident, or by purpose, it is sowing the seeds of isolation, as is the medical tyranny that has landed on our doorsteps.

If it’s a conspiracy or not, is not really the point any longer…it is what it is, and it will continue. Do you like where things are headed? They go there regardless of how many Canadians comply with vaccinations – just observe what is happening in all highly vaccinated countries. All carrots lead to more sticks…and they will continue until you refuse the carrot and the stick.

Relying on the government to product you from a virus is as silly as relying on them for any other solution to your problem. Your position Garth, is more Lefty every day.

Are you following online censorship bills? Domestic vaccine passports? It’s nothing to do with health…if it was, we have bigger troubles than Covid, and we could save far more less intrusively by looking more broadly.

Forcing a vaccine on anyone who doesn’t want it is rooted in fear.

#28 Niagara Region on 07.29.21 at 3:40 pm

Although usually not a conspiracy theorist, I can’t help but wonder how much misinformation about covid vaccines is coming from Russia or perhaps China. Several journalists have proven that, during the 2016 and 2020 US presidential elections, Russian misinformation circulated widely in the US, in an attempt to turn Americans against each other. My evangelical aunt in Alberta has forwarded to me vaccine misinformation that was clearly written by non-native English speakers. Americans and Canadians need to be inoculated in the ways that Finnish people are: teach students as early as elementary school how to distinguish good quality information produced by reliable, authoritative sources versus the garbage that often passes here as news.

#29 Bob in Hamilton on 07.29.21 at 3:43 pm

“I’m now a wealthy, old, cowardly Nazi engaged in the cruel vivisection of the young.”

..don’t forget misogyny….(lol)

#30 Pendulum swing or plunge into the abyss? on 07.29.21 at 3:46 pm

While I may not agree entirely with Garth Turner, I cannot for any reason fault his logical and reasoned analysis. Truth be told, where I have some small reservations about what he says is confined to a nuance of portfolio makeup. In the main, he is correct about a lot of things. And I entirely agree with his assertions about vaccinations, the deluge of misinformation that surrounds this essential task that we must all complete, and the cowardly nature of the cohort who set themselves apart. Would that they would have set themselves on fire given the lying that pours forth from their cake holes.

To all the naysayers and malcontents who stand opposed to vaccination and feel compelled to push faulty research, fear mongering, and the rest of the swill that seems so common amongst the poorly educated, you would do well to consider that before the onslaught of social media, we tended to rely on more carefully constructed arguments and in the main, these arguments came from people who were qualified to present these arguments. No one wanted to hear what you — the last, the lost, and the least — thought about anything although some politicians would pander to you in an attempt to get your vote. Some things never change but they sure have gotten supercharged in the present day.

All of this leads me to wonder if we are just seeing a pendulum swing or have we, through our collective ignorance and abrogation of our basic responsibilities, gone beyond a swing confined by the pendulum’s pivot and instead gone right off the deep end? Is there any recovery from all of this foment? I seriously wonder if there is indeed a conspiracy afoot to see all the 3Ls be eliminated by the delta variant and we will be left with a smaller, more thoughtful population? Is all this misinformation that binds the mob together just enough rope for them to hang themselves?

One can only hope.

#31 Reynolds753 on 07.29.21 at 3:47 pm

My hat is off to you Mr. Turner for your clear vision and common sense advise on this Covid-19 pandemic. Sadly, your comment on our loss of commonality of purpose rings true. We seem to have become a society that only concerns itself with the wants, beliefs and desires of the individual.

#32 Bob in Hamilton on 07.29.21 at 3:47 pm

“It’s fear. They’re afraid of needles, fearful of side-effects, scared of the science behind vaccines, worried about long-term consequences and terrified of becoming sickened by succumbing to inoculation. In short, pansies.”

Sigh…have said it many times here over the years…welcome to the new Canada, get used to it everyone.

#33 IMALWAYS RIGHT on 07.29.21 at 3:48 pm

Everyone should try out the John’s Hopkins Covid-19 risk tool. Very informative. You will have to use a U.S. zip code like 14226.

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator

#34 Chris L. on 07.29.21 at 3:48 pm

#23 SmallTownSteve on 07.29.21 at 3:35 pm

Antivaxxers are just going to end up being Darwin awards. Natural selection at its finest. Never before have I witnessed so many willing to play Russian roulette while telling themselves the mantra vaccines are the devil. Just look at the math dumbdumbs, over 90% of new cases are amongst unvaccinated people. Perhaps those that are willfully unvaccinated should have to pay for their own medical bills and be disqualified from any government assistance…

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How else are the unvaccinated going to get immunity “dumbdumb?”

That’s kind of the point to developing the other kind of immunity that happens. Hang tight, the other 20 percent will wrap up the heard and better protection moving forward.

#35 Pete on 07.29.21 at 3:50 pm

Aww, they’re afraid of needles. That’s soooo cute. Don’t worry, an experienced nurse won’t even let you feel it. I got my 2nd dose and I suspected the nurse didn’t even vaccinate me because I felt nothing at all. She was good (and super cute too). Win win.

#36 CeeDeeCee on 07.29.21 at 3:51 pm

Covid has killed 612,000 Americans to date.

Smoking is responsible for killing 480,000 Americans – EVERY YEAR!

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm

#37 bob on 07.29.21 at 3:52 pm

when the media portrays residential schools as intentional genocide by the government, not surprising to see people not getting vaxed, no trust…

#38 FreedomPrice on 07.29.21 at 3:53 pm

Everyone has an option not to take the vaccine. It’s your choice but every choice is at a price. Those that decide not to be vaccinated and gets sick and need medical attention should pay for every procedure, every visit to the doctor/emerg, time in a hospital bed out of their own pocket not out of government plans like OHIP. I would go even further and indicate that if an unvaccinated person (that is not medically exempt) infects someone else and it results in that person needing medical assistance that the cost of medical assistance should go directly to the unvaccinated person.

#39 mfgast on 07.29.21 at 3:54 pm

#28 Niagara Region on 07.29.21 at 3:40 pm

Loosen your tinfoil hat there. Boris and Natasha are not hiding under your bed.

#40 kommykim on 07.29.21 at 3:55 pm

RE: #24 Senator Bluto on 07.29.21 at 3:35 pm
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No!!! Who’s with me?? Yeah!!!!

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Germans? You might want to crack a history book.

#41 Maggie the Teck Writer on 07.29.21 at 3:58 pm

If timid souls are afraid to be vaccinated, I respect their fearfulness. We all have weaknesses.

I just don’t want them anywhere near me.

#42 Leasy on 07.29.21 at 3:59 pm

I’m not sure how you reckon the residential schools are relics of times long past. The last weren’t closed until the mid 1990s. As a 30 something, I could have gone to one if I’d been born the wrong colour in the wrong place. And there are people who worked at these schools, some of whom abused and murdered children, who are still alive today. Shame on you for dismissing it as some long-past harm in another era. Sure it started that way, but went on far too long. And people are still walking around with hidden scars from it today.

Provide evidence children were ‘murdered’ at school. Go on. – Garth

#43 Linda on 07.29.21 at 4:00 pm

You go, Lulu! Looking very svelte in her life jacket:)

Garth, Canada is indeed a wonderful place to live. I feel lucky every day to live here & now. I hope you will continue to offer the free financial advice despite those who descend to name calling etc. I prescribe adorable puppies en masse as an antidote.

#44 NewWest on 07.29.21 at 4:00 pm

This is the logical end point for the mercantile society we live in. We are no longer citizens, with the responsibilities and privileges that go along with that. We are now consumers, and have been taught that it is our right to “choose” regardless of consequences for us or for our neighbours. Mazda or Ford, Nike or Adidas, Shoppers or London Drugs – it’s your choice, and whatever you choose will make you special and at the same time part of the group. And you never need think of any costs down the road, because someone else will take care of that.

Extend this logic to the public realm. Sure, go ahead and smoke – it’s your choice. Sure, get your medical information from Facebook and Twitter – all news and information sources are equal, after all, and it’s your choice! Sure, live on Big Macs and Starbucks Mocha Frappicinos – your body, your choice, right?

Until you get sick. Or disabled enough that you need help doing day to day tasks. Then suddenly it isn’t your choice any more, and you expect that public sphere that you refused to participate in in any meaningful way will take care of you. You paid your taxes in lieu of taking any responsibility for yourself, so they owe you, right? And owe you way more than any amount of taxes you paid, to fix any and all of your self inflicted woes.

Unlike many here I look at my Millennial kids and their friends and only have hope that one day we might be citizens again, instead of consumers blinded by selfishness, ready to think not only of ourselves but of our fellow citizens and our children.

Now I’m off to the zero-waste store for (unscented) dish soap and smoked tofu. Rage on, olds!

#45 the jaguar on 07.29.21 at 4:00 pm

@ # 10 CEW9
‘Mi Lanzador de Relevo’!!!!!!!
My Relief Pitcher!!!
Someone else is stepping up to praise and defend my province! I feel like Mariano Rivera just walked into my life…….(big sigh)

#46 katzndogz on 07.29.21 at 4:00 pm

Sorry you have had to face a such a burst pipeline of stupidity for endorsing the vax, Garth. For all the smug Canadians thumbing their noses at those dumba** Yanks opposing the vax, please sit up and look around you: we have equal antivax talent in this country. The USA does not have monopoly on stupidity.

To all those doubting the vax benefit or harboring antivax sentiment … check your misinformation silo by listening to a seriously informative, apolitical podcast. Then go get your shot.

https://samharris.org/podcasts/256-contagion-bad-ideas/

#47 Boom Town Rat on 07.29.21 at 4:01 pm

A harsh solution might be to make it clear to those who wilfully choose to remain Un-vaxed that if diagnosed with Covid, they are not covered by Provincial health care and must pay out of pocket.

Sounds cruel. But might be something to consider.

#48 Ballingsford on 07.29.21 at 4:02 pm

#24 Senator Bluto on 07.29.21 at 3:35 pm

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No!!! Who’s with me?? Yeah!!!!

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Senator, the Japanese blew up Pearl Harbor.

Shouldn’t you be working on a committee or something instead of reading and commenting on this blog.

#49 Sail Away on 07.29.21 at 4:05 pm

Angels and demons. Righteous and wicked. Indignation. Condemnation. Castigation. Morality. Mortality. Free will. Pro-choice. Tolerance.

Such fertile soil!

…just unfortunately so absolutely uninteresting… yawn…

#50 Paula S. on 07.29.21 at 4:05 pm

“Layered over this is the deep scientific learning that only Facebook, YouTube and Parler can provide. This assists IT guys, florists, equipment salespeoplekind and bus drivers in becoming virologists, infectious disease experts and epidemiologists.”

It always amazes me that these so called “ experts”, with no scientific or medical training, somehow become the voice of reason. Their uninformed and ignorant musings sopped up like daily manna
These same people, if finding themselves sick or injured, would beg and plead for help from those who have made medicine and actual science, their life’s work.
“The highest form of ignorance is rejecting something you know nothing about”.
Bravo Garth..

#51 yvr_lurker on 07.29.21 at 4:06 pm

Layered over this is the deep scientific learning that only Facebook, YouTube and Parler can provide. This assists IT guys, florists, equipment salespeoplekind and bus drivers in becoming virologists, infectious disease experts and epidemiologists. They, in turn, use social media to impart their learning to others. And, presto, 51% of the unvaxed believe there are microchips in the serum. Or the CEO of Pfizer won’t take his own medicine. Or that Covid is mutating wildly within the bodies of the blissfully vaccinated.

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Loved the sarcasm. Long for the day when I was a kid where my family and those of my friends would really take in with trust the editorial comments of Walter Cronkite. Seems like society has largely been Balkanized due, in part, to too much social media and too easy online access for all sorts of jackass keyboard warriors who spout off whatever “facts” or “factiods” fits their narrative. Indeed, we are not all in it together, and quoting my favorite Cronkite expression “And that’s the way it is”.

#52 kommykim on 07.29.21 at 4:07 pm

RE: #26 Rook on 07.29.21 at 3:40 pm
Keep that in mind as we hurtle towards mandatory vaccinations, or vaccine passports, or whatever comes next. Elections are coming. I’m definitely not pointing at my neighbour as the bad guy. Neither should you.

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Sorry, but if my neighbour decides to drive drunk, I’m going to hate him even if he never had an accident.
Your argument would make sense if not getting vaxxed had zero effect on the rest of the neighbours, but that’s not the case.

#53 I am " on 07.29.21 at 4:10 pm

The anti vaxxers issue is a self correcting problem. Lots of irony with these people. They are mostly Republican/Evangelical Christains. On one side they scream anti vax because “My body, my right to chose”, and in the same breath say abortions are manditory , not the mothers choise. But then Religiion is not really about spirituality, but about social control and the accumulation of wealth ( have you ever been inside the Vadican) ,just an obsene display of wealth. So have at it anti vaxxers, meet your maker, get er done.

#54 When Will They Raise Rates? on 07.29.21 at 4:10 pm

#26 Niagara Region on 07.29.21 at 3:40 pm

Although usually not a conspiracy theorist, I can’t help but wonder how much misinformation about covid vaccines is coming from Russia or perhaps China. Several journalists have proven that, during the 2016 and 2020 US presidential elections, Russian misinformation circulated widely in the US, in an attempt to turn Americans against each other. My evangelical aunt in Alberta has forwarded to me vaccine misinformation that was clearly written by non-native English speakers. Americans and Canadians need to be inoculated in the ways that Finnish people are: teach students as early as elementary school how to distinguish good quality information produced by reliable, authoritative sources versus the garbage that often passes here as news

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Like CNN, MSNBC, WaPo and the NYT, who brought you the Russia collusion hoax that you clearly still believe?

Lol

#55 Justin S on 07.29.21 at 4:11 pm

Agreed – thank you Garth. Last sentence hits the nail on the head.

#56 Toronto_CA on 07.29.21 at 4:13 pm

#36 Boom Town Rat on 07.29.21 at 4:01 pm
A harsh solution might be to make it clear to those who wilfully choose to remain Un-vaxed that if diagnosed with Covid, they are not covered by Provincial health care and must pay out of pocket.

Sounds cruel. But might be something to consider.
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Can we all please f-ing stop with this line of thought?

We do not withhold public medical help because people make poor decisions. Nor would we ever. Not for covid, not for smoking, not for drinking, not for getting fat, not for a dangerous hobby.

Every citizen in Canada has a right to health care. Regardless of whether they take the vaccine or not. If you do this for Covid, you logically need to stop treating everyone who does unhealthy, stupid things.

Stop this idiotic thinking. I am aghast at how many people keep posting that. Please think before you post.

I thought blogdogs were a bit smarter than this.

#57 wiggleroom on 07.29.21 at 4:13 pm

“Relying on the government to product you from a virus is as silly as relying on them for any other solution to your problem.” – Chris L # 27

I really struggle with this sort of sentiment. I’ve heard this from people who are also mistrusting of big pharma (which, I admit, is somewhat understandable.)

In the case of a worldwide, actual, non-conspiracy based pandemic, or any global threat: who do you expect to give you a birds-eye view of what’s happening? Who can collect worldwide or even national or provincial data? Who can recommend a course of action and protection, *and implement* this for millions/billions of people? This is the reason we have a government, why we have media – to provide an overview of what’s happening, on a global or national scale, and to provide solutions.

In what imaginary world are you able to know what is going on without some sort of governing body? Do you get all your info from people who are just using their enormous powers of omnipotence and magical intuition, plotting out their vision for the benefit of mankind on Facebook? Or do you have this level of intuition on your own? How are they, or you, going to solve an actual disaster like a pandemic, without resorting to a governing body – by sprinkling fairy dust over the masses? Or do you just not believe bad things can happen in the world on that scale?

#58 Shawn on 07.29.21 at 4:13 pm

The numbers are about the same as they were last year and there wasn’t a jab yet. Hopefully the jab does work but the real test will be in the fall when the sun heeads south and vitamin D drops. I will likely be forced to get jabbed to stay employed. I never thought there was a microchip in it but it did seem the government didn’t know what they were doing. The shot you should get is the first one available said my pm. Then Astra was pulled then they said go mix and match. What will they say in another 2 months? Sorry but you need a booster and yeah everyone is under house arrest until June next year

#59 Chris L. on 07.29.21 at 4:14 pm

#36 Boom Town Rat on 07.29.21 at 4:01 pm

A harsh solution might be to make it clear to those who wilfully choose to remain Un-vaxed that if diagnosed with Covid, they are not covered by Provincial health care and must pay out of pocket.

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Will you afford the same to alcoholics, smokers, people who don’t exercise good, and the lot? We’re all in this together…right?

#60 KLNR on 07.29.21 at 4:14 pm

Bravo garth.
time for the antivax crowd to grow a set.

#61 T on 07.29.21 at 4:14 pm

#36 Boom Town Rat on 07.29.21 at 4:01 pm
A harsh solution might be to make it clear to those who wilfully choose to remain Un-vaxed that if diagnosed with Covid, they are not covered by Provincial health care and must pay out of pocket.

Sounds cruel. But might be something to consider.

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We all pay into the same public health systems, this seems unfair.

Perhaps increased taxes for the pandemic response and a tax credit for those whom are vaccinated.

#62 "NUTS!" on 07.29.21 at 4:15 pm

Culture, buy definition, is the shared values, beliefs, and traditions of a group of individuals. I fear we have two distinct developing cultures, one based on the strength of community , and one based on the strength of individuals. The various divides we are experiencing with such polarity can all fall into those two categories, however disguised they may be. And yes, I am a victim of the years I’ve inhabited this earth, but I do believe I’d match rather live my live in a culture that values community over the individual, fully understanding my every whim may not be satisfied, regardless of how special my mother told me I was as a child. Boomer attack in 10, 9, 8, 7 . . .

#63 Sail Away on 07.29.21 at 4:15 pm

#24 Senator Bluto on 07.29.21 at 3:35 pm

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No!!! Who’s with me?? Yeah!!!!

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Wasn’t it the Austrians?

#64 Inequity on 07.29.21 at 4:15 pm

I used to think we need to put our differences aside because we are stronger together and we all have something to contribute that would benefit us all.

But years of being told that I am privileged because of the color of my skin, the education that I paid for myself, and the government job where I haven’t had so much as a COL increase in 10+ years. While the country gives a select few “special” statuses. Where elected officials in the top offices must be bilingual. All but ensuring that most of those offices are filled with people from one province. I was proud that Canada had two official languages, but its been twisted to benefit a select few.

I live in a province that rich with resources and while the industry is cyclical, it has benefited the country providing jobs and plumping the GDP of the whole country. Now the industry is struggling while two provinces and special status people actively block efforts to improve the situation.

So now I say let the industry fail. Let all of Canada enjoy the results. We can celebrate the cost of a tank of gas, smile at how much it costs to heat our homes in the winter, or cheer on the closing of US pipelines vital to eastern Canada.

My hope is that maybe once we all hit rock bottom, then maybe we will start treating all Canadians as Canadians without the need for some of us to be more special than the rest. And maybe we will all work together for the common good, including getting vaccinated, but I’m not holding my breath. Because in this county time and time again it has been every man for them self.

#65 George S on 07.29.21 at 4:16 pm

Excellent post today.

I have been trying to say such things but you are so much better with your wording. I am not sure how you can resist typing a post consisting of all swear words in capital letters. When talking about the anti-vaccination people.

I scrolled through yesterday’s comments and have come to the conclusion that the majority people have no idea what “liberty”, “individual choice”, “rights”, “freedom”, and “social responsibility” mean(s). They most certainly have no knowledge of science and medicine. And they most certainly have no clue whatsoever about how to decipher which information has value. If we ever came into a situation where we had to defend the country against invaders, given their cowardice in face of a simple pandemic where they won’t even get a vaccine to protect the lives of others, they will just flee into the forests and hide like little chickens.
Everything that I have ever seen published against vaccines has been wrong and simply made up for the financial gain of the authors. If you look up the scientists and doctors involved they are either poor scientists or have been convicted or charged with fraud, some of them have been stripped of their medical licenses. But imbeciles on social media idolize them because they fit in with their assorted conspiracy theories.

People don’t seem to understand that a mRNA vaccine against a rapidly changing virus like a Corona virus has to be made quickly and gotten into people before the virus has a chance to mutate. You can wipe it out if enough people get the vaccine, if you have a bunch of nitwits that think they know better, better luck next time. Luckily we are being given a second chance because the Delta variant comes from a place that was completely unvaccinated because they have a stupid government and extremely low education levels.

Just because someone has Dr. in front of their name doesn’t mean they are a medical expert. There are lots of Drs. that have a PhD in english literature. They may not even have taken a science or math class in their entire life.

#66 Sheesh on 07.29.21 at 4:16 pm

#6 “Glossing over the fact that measles and polio are way deadlier than covid”

Not true.
the CDC has estimated that perhaps 25% of coronavirus infections are asymptomatic . In polio, over 90% of cases were asymptomatic, and only 2–3% of infections resulted in permanent paralysis. Paralytic polio could be fatal IF it affected the breathing muscles, but this was a small percentage of cases. IFR was lower than SARS-cov-2.

Measles also has a lower ifr, although it is more contagious than SARS-cov-2. (So far).

Both diseases have sequelae – post polio syndrome and
this: https://www.cdc.gov/measles/symptoms/complications.html

It’s interesting that anti vaxxers and the hesitant are concerned about unknown long term effects from a vaccine, but not about unknown long term effects from an infection, which are FAR more likely to be a thing. Think about it.

#67 Ian on 07.29.21 at 4:16 pm

You are not a Nazi! The Nazi’s were defeated in WW2 and this ignorant commenter should learn their history. It bothers me a great deal to hear people use the word Nazi to label someone who has a difference of opinion. The sad part is that the Nazi’s were truly evil and a generation of people will forget this and instead assume it is a word used to only describe someone you don’t agree with or like.

Garth, your doing a good job reminding people to get a jab, get thru this and the economic consequences of continued delay.

Thank you,

#68 Steve on 07.29.21 at 4:18 pm

You’re the best Garth! Keep it real!

#69 Ian on 07.29.21 at 4:19 pm

Solid stuff the past few days Garth. I really appreciate your courage. You’re a damn good human being.

#70 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.29.21 at 4:19 pm

@#37 Baillingsford.
“Senator, the Japanese blew up Pearl Harbor.”

+++

Not in the speech John Belushi gave as Bluto in the Movie Animal house

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1253496319148060673

#71 Phylis on 07.29.21 at 4:20 pm

It’s the second half (close enufff). OFSI, release the dividends!

#72 NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS on 07.29.21 at 4:21 pm

Hey, stop sticking your nose into my private health information!

It’s not of my business if you took a vaccine. I don’t want to know about it. And it’s none of your business if I took mine. Nor should you know about my week prescription. Of my Cialis prescription. Or the hookup I got for adderall from a friend doctor. Piss off about these health questions!

Last I checked, medical information was private and subject to protections as such.

Is it even legal for anyone to be asked about their health information? It isn’t. So BUZZ OFF!

I would have rather you convinced me to buy bitcoin last week.

#73 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.29.21 at 4:21 pm

Anti Vaxx’ers aside.

One wonders how many nurses are going to refuse to go back into the hospitals for “round 4” when this heats back up in the Winter….and all the ICU’s are overflowing with the unvaxx’ed and a few vaxxed.

#74 espressobob on 07.29.21 at 4:24 pm

Anti vaxxers are an amusing lot, steeped in conspiracy theories.
The worst part is that they actually believe in their own ignorance.

A fourth wave is their fate. Good luck with that.

I just hope the rest of us dont suffer because of this mentality.

#75 Blacksheep on 07.29.21 at 4:24 pm

Garth, I have found yesterday and today’s blogs…Inspiring.

We are all in this together right, as one global community.

So I have decided I (we?) need to stop being so selfish.

It’s time for some personal sacrifice and here is mine:

I am officially (I called them) donating my second scheduled dose of Moderna vax, to a third world country experiencing massive deaths from C-19 infections due living in poverty, having little access to vaccines.
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Rational:

https://www.healthline.com/health/why-two-doses-of-covid-vaccine#immunity-after-first-dose

“What level of immunity do you have after the first vaccine?

Even though the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines require two doses, you do get some immunity after you receive the first dose. Let’s examine this in a little more detail below.

Pfizer-BioNTech:

Researchers working on the clinical trials for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine observed a vaccine effectiveness of 52 percent between the time of the first and second doses, which is a 21-day period.

However, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may be more effective after the first dose than was previously thought. This information comes from a separate analysis from scientists in the United Kingdom.

These scientists wanted to look at vaccine effectiveness 15 days or more after people had received the first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

*They found that vaccine effectiveness was actually closer to 89 to 91 percent 15 days after the first dose.*

Moderna

In a reportTrusted Source submitted to the FDA, researchers discussed vaccine effectiveness in clinical trial participants who’d only gotten one dose of the vaccine. A vaccine effectiveness of 50.8 percent was found up to 14 days after the first dose.

*Vaccine effectiveness was 92.1 percent beyond the first 14 days.*
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I am now calling on all other blog dogs that have yet to receive their second dose, (it only improves the efficacy by a 2 % points) to share their unneeded, live giving medicine with the other 5 billion people on the planet, desperate for help so they can avoid serous illness and death due to C-19

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

#onejabisenough

Time to step up guys.

#76 Slim on 07.29.21 at 4:27 pm

#27 Chris L
“Forcing a vaccine on anyone who doesn’t want it is rooted in fear.”

That’s right, because it’s based on a real fear of catching Covid. Compared to the irrational fear of a bogey man.

#77 A Proud Canadian on 07.29.21 at 4:27 pm

Agreed.

#78 Wuhan we got y'all in check on 07.29.21 at 4:29 pm

don’t worry Garth – this problem will take care of itself. By spring 2022 there will be a lot fewer of them. If you ask me anyone who gets ill from covid because they chose not to get vaccinated when they had the chance should ride out the illness at home. No possibility of being admitted to hospital.

As a bonus collectively we will be smarter as well.

#79 NSNG on 07.29.21 at 4:30 pm

If you put your trust in a proven liar, you deserve what you get.

Fear has nothing to do with it.

#80 MicroGX on 07.29.21 at 4:32 pm

Dog bless you Garth.
Attracting the unattractive (behavior), Unfortunate side effect of helping others I guess, please continue sharing as you like.
M.

#81 NSNG on 07.29.21 at 4:32 pm

#78 Wuhan we got y’all in check on 07.29.21 at 4:29 pm

don’t worry Garth – this problem will take care of itself. By spring 2022 there will be a lot fewer of them.

A whole .1% fewer.

BAHAHAHAHA!

#82 Guy in Calgary on 07.29.21 at 4:34 pm

I listen to electricians when i have electrical problems. I listen to plumbers when i have a plumbing problem. I listen to doctors for medical problems.

Wife’s cousin is a doc and said get the vax as soon as you can. Perfectly safe. He actually went a step further and said that those that do not want should be forced. That goes for all vaccines, not just covid. The denial of receiving a vaccine is out of pure ignorance, no matter how much they try to disguise their ignorance with “liberty” or calling it “experimental”. Vaccines were experimental 100 years ago, not in 2021. These are the same people that will call my mill generation weak or soft.

Anyone that thinks they have more knowledge on the safety of vaccines then medical professionals and epidemiologists are blowing smoke. I guess this is what Google has created.

Two medical inventions that have saved the most lives? #1 toilets, #2 vaccines.

#83 Roial1 on 07.29.21 at 4:41 pm

#5 Ballingsford on 07.29.21 at 3:13 pm
Maybe we should have a vaccine passport to vote. Then we might get intelligent voters.

Now that’s a great idea. BUT! can we get candidates equally intelligent????

NEVER HAPPEN!

#84 The Truth on 07.29.21 at 4:45 pm

Garth, agree that Covid stress has contributed to polarization in society in general. The BLM movement was accelerated by Trump refusing to denounce racist groups, murder of George Floyd, and systemic issues that existed for a long time. Add in Covid and you got another issue affecting minority and impoverished more so.

The last residential schools closed on our lifetimes. Let’s see what the forensic investigations reveal.

#85 IMALWAYS RIGHT on 07.29.21 at 4:46 pm

At 11:37 am Eastern on July 29th, this blog might have hit bottom
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No, it hit bottom about 10 years ago.
Goodbye, I will miss Turner Nayion best commenting of all time.

#86 Alberta Ed on 07.29.21 at 4:46 pm

A lot of us aging cowards sitting on bags of money are also heavily armed. As for the anti-vaxxers, karma will sort all that out.

#87 Niagara Region on 07.29.21 at 4:49 pm

#39 MFGast, #54 When Will they Raise Rates?

Interference by Russian trolls in American society via social media, including Facebook, is well documented. US Intelligence Senate Committee Reports, for example, have documented this:
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/12/18/headlines/senate_committee_claims_russia_targeted_african_americans_on_social_media

#88 GrumpyPanda on 07.29.21 at 4:49 pm

#24 Senator Bluto.

Love that line from the movie “Animal House” delivered by John Belushi. And his fate at the end of the film.

Just wanted you to know at least one person got the joke.

I’d really like anti-vaxxers to explain why they argue medical science with doctors and not taxes with their accountant and law with lawyers.

But maybe they do.

#89 Adam on 07.29.21 at 4:50 pm

Garth, will you admit that some mistakes have been made along the way? I got covid back in April 2020. Why? Because I didn’t wear a mask out. Yet, I had a box full of N95 masks sitting in my closet. So why didn’t I wear them out? Because the government LIED TO US. They told us “Masks do not help”. Period. They did it because they didn’t want people to buy up all the masks, leaving none for the healthcare workers. Regardless of their reasoning, they LIED. They could have said “Yes, masks help, but DO NOT buy masks. We need them for the healthcare workers. Instead, use anything you can for a mask. Pull a turtleneck up, make a mask out of a towel, or go to Michael’s and buy some stuff and make a mask”. What does this have to do with today? Guess I am one of those “paranoid pansies” you refer to, but what else are they not telling us? And no I don’t think there’s microchips in the damn vaccine. I’m a logical person. But you are ignoring the fact that these vaccines are still NOT FDA approved. The FDA is “working as fast as it can to approve them”. WTF??? That’s not how this works. You can’t put rules in place to ensure proper drug testing and then throw them out the window when a pandemic hits. The FDA regulatory approval process is there for a reason. Surely you must at least understand a bit why people would be apprehensive.

#90 Willem Schiere on 07.29.21 at 4:51 pm

Garth I admire your courage to put yourself out there into the society that we have 2 make a brave attempt putting some sanity Into The Ether. And I am not talking about Ethereum! Thanks muchly for the heroic effort!

#91 Michael Guy on 07.29.21 at 4:51 pm

Bravo Garth, well said. Yesterdays column too.

#92 Toronto_CA on 07.29.21 at 4:54 pm

Can we all please just acknowledge the huge number of people that are both:

-Pro-vaccines
-Anti-mandatory-vaccines

This is actually where most people should be sitting who are rational and intelligent. The answer to people reluctant to get take the vaccine is education, encouragement, full disclosure, etc. Never forcing it on them.

#93 Fred on 07.29.21 at 4:57 pm

I wonder if Garth will allow me to say that none of the pro-vaxxers have a clue about anything. All the people in Canada who eat a nutritionally deficient diet should be the priority if the government cared about us – a $2.00 vaccine – that’s all it costs to make – will not do a thing to improve our health and our ability to fight the next bad flu that comes along.

#94 Leo Trollstoy on 07.29.21 at 5:00 pm

When attempting to convince someone of our POV, calling them stupid doesn’t work very well

But I’m sure the intelligent know this already

#95 Pylot Project on 07.29.21 at 5:02 pm

#11 Unmasked and Unvaxxed on 07.29.21 at 3:20 pm
“The Unvaxxed are a bunch of scardy cats!” He says as he gives up all his rights and rushes to get an experimental vaccine for a disease that he has more than a 99.9% chance of surviving.
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What’s your point sunshine? Getting vaxed isn’t just about YOU and saving your own rear-end, it’s about herd immunity so none of us get it. Acting like a community. I get the seasonal flu shot for the same reasons. Listen to Spock. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

#96 Pylot Project on 07.29.21 at 5:05 pm

Timely quote for anti-vaxxers.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain. – Frank Herbert

…the Spice must flow.

#97 Hesitant? on 07.29.21 at 5:06 pm

For the vaccine hesitant (because antivaxers are too far gone to ever be convinced that they’re wrong) this site has quality information, and many links to quality evidence. Don’t let the name fool you.
https://byrambridle.com/?fbclid=IwAR1Cr8S_Kcn00dAirAELp1LFB1APex6Ld8HKK-_fJDDCTc0hJV2vfkYwZV4

#98 Nothingtaboo on 07.29.21 at 5:08 pm

Antivacers are really just wimps trying to present a more dominant character. Everyone has a right to a position, but when that position directly affects other people, then that right is diminished. Our health care workers sacrifice their health to help others. So, my suggestion is that when an anti vaxxer arrives at a hospital, they be sent home to self isolate. No hospital admittance. If they survive, then they beat the alternative for their choice. The decision is theirs to make, and we reduce the possibility for transmission.

#99 Wrk.dover on 07.29.21 at 5:09 pm

I can still remember when Adelle was Garth’s pet peeve.

Simpler times!

Log me out of here Scotty…it’s time for a walkabout among the vaxed.

#100 wallflower on 07.29.21 at 5:11 pm

Seems to me Alberta is saying to the unvax: go jump in the lake

Seems to me, eventually, we are all going to have to adopt that strategy

unvax: you are on your own – good news, when you get to the hospital ventilator, you will likely actually have one because the rest of us did the deed

#101 Left GTA on 07.29.21 at 5:14 pm

I pretty much felt like barfing yesterday evening after reading so much horrible stuff. I don’t know how you put up with it day after day. I am a huge fan of yours. Are the anti vax people the same people who will turn down cancer treatment or diabetes medication or angioplasty? I think not. What has science done for them lately? As a nurse I see a lot. What the anti vax fail to realize is the impact on the health system. I guess they just take for granted that when its their turn for some medical attention all will be good. Think again. In some way or another not managing covid will add more strain to our already strained health care system and directly affect those anti vax and their families anyway. You see knee surgeries, mental health treatment and many other services are all being impacted by a huge shortage of staff. I can tell you this first hand as my old surgery department is closed. There is probably a 2 year long wait list now. When the hospitals filled up they set up a hotel to hold all the patients that supposedly recovered from covid but not well enough to go home. Nursing homes closed or not taking them. So many are just there needing rehab. I suppose the anti vaxxers do not have family in one of those places. My Dad a TB survivor and almost killed by covid. He is a long hauler now going on 7 months… He is finally out of his diapers and walking around but it is not likely he will get back to driving as covid has damaged his brain and lungs and left nerve damage in his legs. So I guess we just wait and see how this whole pandemic mess plays out.

#102 BlogDog123 on 07.29.21 at 5:17 pm

Tuberculosis (TB) testing / chest x-rays, etc… before someone admitted to the country… so we don’t spread TB around…

Same goes for COVID… Get vaxxed or quarantine, full-stop!

#103 Faron on 07.29.21 at 5:17 pm

Good post Garth. Hang in there. We disagree on a lot, but you’re a good fella’ and deserve respect for your adherence to facts as a true journalist should and does.

All the best,
Faron

#104 stealth on 07.29.21 at 5:19 pm

Garth,

I have been following your blog close to its debut and am thankful for all the content. With friends I have also attended many in person presentations you gave with your friend (Tomlinson?) (e.g one near Pearson airport. 2012)

In the last little while something is happening with the content/direction of the blog making the comments section difficult to read. (insults, shaming/accusing people/nations of horrific acts etc.)

It is moving away from its original theme.
Your other blog contributors, Doug, Ryan, Sinan are excellent, and I know you knew that already.

Please take this into consideration, I have nothing but good intentions, you don’t need to post this comment as long as you get to read it.

Thanks

#105 Erick on 07.29.21 at 5:27 pm

The opioid crisis made 500 000 deaths in 20 years in the US.
J & J was convicted and condemned for knowingly selling a dangerous addictive pain-relieving product.
A famous consulting firm was convicted and condemned for advising to increase the rate of opioids in the pain-relieving product to render people more addicted.
And you wonder why people are scared and don’t trust anyone anymore.
There are always two sides to a story – oversimplification makes things only worse and people even more polarized

#106 Planetgoofy on 07.29.21 at 5:27 pm

Garth
When you have crooked guys like Fauci (Bills bff) changing their minds on the “science”.
Mr. flip flop clearly stated eons ago, mast don’t work. It just makes me wonder.
Unfortunately his little clip is imbedded on MAs site so not sure if you will post it. Nazi boss (just kidding!)
I’m not Vaxed and my wife will NOT. We don’t need to go out much out as we are retired but if so fully respecting any rules.
Guess we won’t be traveling much until we figure it out. I’m not against it but because we are very low risk we wanted to see how the “experiment” played out. I’ve never had a flue shot and never get the flue..
I’m 55 yrs and all ears and pose no threat to anyone so what’s the problem?
If your plugged you need not worry about me…Maybe Ill go for it when I see the Delta V proved out…

#107 Stone on 07.29.21 at 5:27 pm

I conclude there is one common thread to every anti-vax message. It’s fear.

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Maybe but I think it may be more a matter of control or, more specifically, a lack thereof.

People who have a sense of control don’t sweat small shit like getting vaccinated. They just get it done. I fall in that category. Wealthy. Intelligent. Suave. Endowed. It’s tough being me.

People who don’t have a sense of control do sweat the small shit. Every shit that comes across their plate. You know why? Because, their boss shits on them. Their spouse shits on them. Their kids shit on them. They’re addled in debt and that gives them the shits. They look at their supposed successful neighbour with the fancy house, trophy wife, honour roll kids and they cringe with envy as they shit themselves over it. Then, you know what they do? They go and try to shit on someone themselves. But, big but here, it doesn’t work. What they realize is they are at the bottom of the shit control totem pole and there is no way for them to climb up it and claim any status other than being a small shit. And that is why, when these small shit anti-vaxers have the choice, the first thing that comes out of their mouth is:

“NO! MY BODY! MY CHOICE!”

It’s just about having an ounce of control. That, and probably some mental issues. And maybe drug use issues. And probably being weak minded and a spineless pushover. Especially when what they were asked about was whether they wanted chocolate or vanilla ice cream.

#108 Here we go... on 07.29.21 at 5:27 pm

Israel’s prime minister on Thursday announced that the country would offer a coronavirus booster to people over 60 who have already been vaccinated.

“And like the flu vaccine that needs to be renewed from time to time, it is the same in this case.”

I guess those saying there is no way to beat coronaviruses with vaccines were right. Coronaviruses are quick and clever. Mutate and evade. It takes too long to develop vaccines that can stop them and bring them to market, plus even longer to administer. By then the coronavirus has already moved on.

Surrender to the ’RONA humans!

#109 Kurt on 07.29.21 at 5:32 pm

“Lay down that keyboard. Find your conscience. Take a look around. You live in a favoured place, in a time of promise. Act like it.”

Awesome, Garth! Thank you!

#110 Matthew on 07.29.21 at 5:33 pm

Garth, you really have no self-awareness. Your previous post was about demonizing the unvaxxed and forcefully vaccinating them against their will. Now you’re talking about bringing people together. Look in the mirror.

#111 Catalyst on 07.29.21 at 5:34 pm

Great post – except for the anti – antivax stuff. We celebrate women chosing (their body their choice) yet want to force untested vaccines (MRNA first use case in history is covid). Even with large swaths of North America vaxxed, we are forced into masks and selective closures of companies and activities. Governments have become drunk with power and that is alot more scary to me than Covid. Note, I got my 5G insert but I understand those that don’t.

When you had the head of pfizer and heads of state not taking it because they wanted to ‘wait their turn’, you freaked out many. The flip flopping on AZ and mixing doses (not endorsed by pfizer or moderna scientists) has sowed confusion.

#112 When Will They Raise Rates? on 07.29.21 at 5:35 pm

As much as all the mini tyrants would love to see anti-vaxxers forced into being injected against their will, the reality is that there are millions of Canadians who will not take the jab come hell or high water.

I laugh when I read comments on blogs like this or watch leftist panels on TV discussing how to “get the last 20%”… They simply cannot fathom that some people’s minds cannot be changed, especially by libtards openly espousing totalitarian measures like the one proposed on this blog yesterday.

You can’t “get” the “holdouts” because most of them have already made up their minds and the more you insult and threaten them, the more they dig into their position.

I would actually love to see mandatory vaccines attempted, as it would be the perfect issue to catapult a populist uprising in this pathetic post nation state.

#113 DON on 07.29.21 at 5:38 pm

experiments.

There ya go. I’m now a wealthy, old, cowardly Nazi engaged in the cruel vivisection of the young. Amazing where writing a free blog of financial advice, real estate trends, canine fancying and macroeconomics will take you in life. Maybe this is why Dorothy has started goosestepping around me.

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Has Dorothy been watching ‘How to make a tyrant’ on Netflix?

Garth a Nazi…LMAO. People throwing terms around they can’t seem to comprehend.

#114 John Charles Scaling on 07.29.21 at 5:39 pm

Dear Garth, I’m a big fan of this pathetic blog which of course is really good. I’m not a conservative but I think you are doing a great public service for all of us.
THANKS A LOT,!
Charles

#115 FriedEggs on 07.29.21 at 5:40 pm

Notice the vaccinated posts have more insults and acting like bullies. Dumbdumbs, tinfoil hatters, natural selection at its finest, etc…

One group is providing the light, the other spewing hatred.

God Bless!

#116 Bob in Hamilton on 07.29.21 at 5:41 pm

“Phylis on 07.29.21 at 4:20 pm
It’s the second half (close enufff). OFSI, release the dividends!”

Bang on!! Let’s get back to the real important issues on this blog….Money!!!!

#117 binky barnes on 07.29.21 at 5:46 pm

There is only one person who can heal and unite this nation, and fortunately he is Canadian: the PM PM (Mr. Justin Trudeau). He can collectively wrap us in his manly arms and gives us a good ol’ squeeze. Sprinkle in a few words of his pristine paternal wisdom and PRESTO! job done.

He heals and soothes our great leader does. Yes, he is very good at that.

BB

#118 katzndogz on 07.29.21 at 5:49 pm

Honestly, I don’t mind if antivaxxers get covid. I just don’t want to be paying for their care.

#119 Alberta! on 07.29.21 at 5:53 pm

Go Alberta, GO!

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-alberta-ends-isolation-rules-as-bc-region-mandates-masks-again/

#120 David Greene on 07.29.21 at 6:02 pm

To this I respond with, “what Toronto_CA said.

Plus, I’m pretty sure this is against the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Plus, we don’t refuse treatment to smokers, people who drive dangerously, people who live in moldy apartments, etcetera. This is just thinly veiled hatred on your part.

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#38 FreedomPrice on 07.29.21 at 3:53 pm

Everyone has an option not to take the vaccine. It’s your choice but every choice is at a price. Those that decide not to be vaccinated and gets sick and need medical attention should pay for every procedure, every visit to the doctor/emerg, time in a hospital bed out of their own pocket not out of government plans like OHIP. I would go even further and indicate that if an unvaccinated person (that is not medically exempt) infects someone else and it results in that person needing medical assistance that the cost of medical assistance should go directly to the unvaccinated person.

#121 Steve French on 07.29.21 at 6:05 pm

They’re sending in the military to deal with the alarming spread of the delta virus in Sydney Australia!

Well, Canada sends in the military for snowstorms…..

#122 Bob in Hamilton on 07.29.21 at 6:05 pm

“#86 Alberta Ed on 07.29.21 at 4:46 pm
A lot of us aging cowards sitting on bags of money are also heavily armed.”

..does a 100lb male, intact, young German Shepherd count? He’s my weapon of choice and defense…

#123 Toronto_CA on 07.29.21 at 6:05 pm

#117 katzndogz on 07.29.21 at 5:49 pm
Honestly, I don’t mind if antivaxxers get covid. I just don’t want to be paying for their care.
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Honestly, I don’t mind if smokers get cancer. I just don’t want to be paying for their care.

Is smoking infectious? – Garth

#124 Juve101 on 07.29.21 at 6:06 pm

“We have lost our commonality of purpose.”

Unleash upon the masses a scarier plague, Ebola style, and watch us find our commonality of purpose pretty quick.
People just aren’t scared enough of COVID-19.

#125 MH on 07.29.21 at 6:06 pm

I, a renting Millennial in Toronto, agree with most of this. Except the residential schools…they were open ‘last century’, but that was still within my lifetime. Perpetrators of the abuse are still alive. Survivors are still alive, and they have a right to be angry and demand change. Germany still prosecuted Nazis decades after WWII and Canada should do the same.

Nun teachers = Nazi exterminators. Exaggerate much, kid? – Garth

#126 Chameleon on 07.29.21 at 6:07 pm

Is it just me or does today’s dog look like it is suffering just to be alive? Felix?

#127 Cobbers on 07.29.21 at 6:08 pm

By far your best blog post ever, and I normally only care about your financial takes and advice. This was brilliantly said.

#128 Steve French on 07.29.21 at 6:08 pm

Garth:

What do you think the late, great, Smoking Man of Nictonite, he of the talking male organ, would have made about all this?

Steve

#129 CALEDONDAVE on 07.29.21 at 6:10 pm

Freedom of choice. Freedom of speech. Yeah. That’s what Canada is! Yippee!! To all of you antivaxers out there, and you know who I mean, you also have freedom to die. The vaccine will keep you out of the ground. What part of this don’t you understand? If you are an antivaxer please get all your affairs in order so that when the time comes your designated survivors will know what to do. When you do get covid….and you will it will be too late to ask for the vaccine. You can’t be like John Wayne, who on his death bed asked to be baptized and asked to accept Christ as his savior so he could go to heaven. NO. You antivaxers will go to that nice warm place reserved for the likes of Paul Bernardo and Hitler because in the eyes of God suicide is really bad. Not getting vaccinated is paramount to suicide. Please Canada…grow up…grow a pair and get vaccinated.

#130 Ken R on 07.29.21 at 6:11 pm

The anti-vax crowd, the apocalypse crowd, the real estate crazies! I’m going fishing with my dog tomorrow. Good company, good coffee and not a human being in sight.

#131 Adam Smith on 07.29.21 at 6:12 pm

We are a fearful people.

That said – as someone who IS vaccinated – it is not fair to compare this vaccination effort with that of polio. Jonas Salk famously didn’t patent that and there was a better culture in medicine around not being predatory.
It is unfair to be putting people in the position we have.

Regulatory capture by Big Pharma is a well documented phenomenon at this point, just as real as tax evasion and done with the same motive.

“A 2006 survey by the Union of Concerned Scientists surveyed one thousand scientists working for the FDA and found 61 percent said they were aware of cases where ‘Department of Health and Human Services or FDA political appointees have inappropriately injected
themselves into FDA determinations or actions.’ 18.4 percent say they have personally have been asked, for non-scientific reasons, to inappropriately exclude or alter technical information, or conclusions based on that data, in a FDA scientific document.’ Only 47 percent believed the FDA ‘routinely provides complete and accurate information to the public’ (Fromer, 2006)

A US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Inspector General had also conducted a survey in 2002 that found two-thirds of FDA scientists did not believe that the FDA adequately monitored prescription drugs and that eighteen percent of those surveyed had been pressured to grant approval to a drug despite their reservations about safety and/or efficacy. Despite these survey results, the HHS released parts of the survey in 2003 and reported that the FDA scientists had confidence in their decisions (Schmit, 2004).

The FDA also has conflict of interest issues in the eighteen advisory committees that decide whether to approve drugs. These committees consist of outside experts who review the drug applications and make recommendations to the FDA that the regulator will almost always take. There are rules to disallow experts who have conflicts of interest but these are often waived on the grounds that their advice is indispensable (Angell, 2005 p. 210). USA Today would
examine the committee records in 2000 and find that 92 percent of the committee meetings had at least one member with a conflict of interest and that 55 percent of meetings had half or more of the members with a conflict of interest (Cauchon, 2000 p. 1A).”

Pandemics are going to become more routine as we become more interconnected and viruses and bacteria become easier for rogue groups to manufacture in labs. Asking people to get injected with drugs rushed out at huge profit by indemnified companies that have control of the people supposed to regulate them isn’t fair.

By the time we hit another pandemic, we should be able to tell our population that our public health organizations and regulators are looking after the public interest FULL STOP.

#132 Cici on 07.29.21 at 6:14 pm

Way to go Garth!

Thanks for stating the facts so eloquently. Every word in tonight’s post is poignant, timely and true.

And please keep up the good work, we need to hear more from sages like you ;-)

#133 Sceptical Investor on 07.29.21 at 6:14 pm

I have disagreed with you on this blog before and sometimes even been dickish, but what I will always be grateful for is your kindness in maintaining this important blog, which must be quite a bit of work. You sir are a model of responsibility, civic commitment, a fine Canadian, and an even better human being. Keep up this great blog, and disregard the slime.

#134 Trojan House on 07.29.21 at 6:21 pm

Someone said above that vaccines have been around for a very long time. Indeed this is true. However, these types of vaccines (mRNA & adenovector) are actually somewhat new technology for vaccines. mRNA has been researched for years now but this is the first vaccine based on the technology.

Let’s make the comparison to a completely new model of automobile. As everyone knows it’s best not to buy the first or second year of an entirely new model. Why? So that the manufacturer can work out all the bugs. Take that analogy to the vaccines. Sure you can take the shot but perhaps not all the bugs have been worked out yet. While in the short term the vaccines look somewhat effective, long term safety data has yet to be compiled obviously. We see evidence of some of the problems already – FDA discouraging use for young adults because of myocarditis; the banning of the AstraZeneca vaccine in different countries causing Canadians to get a different vaccine if they want to travel; and, the FDA warning against mixing of the vaccines (although Canadian health authorities seem to think it’s not a problem).

I only buy used cars. Two to three years old are the best deals in my humble opinion.

Anyway, Garth, I’ve read your blog for almost 10 years now and I love the financial advice and try to follow it. However, you haven’t always been right with your predictions but that is okay because nobody has a crystal ball and we all make mistakes. I would just be careful thinking you are always right. I know I’m usually wrong about most things.

#135 the Jaguar on 07.29.21 at 6:27 pm

@#118 Alberta! on 07.29.21 at 5:53 pm
Go Alberta, GO!
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-alberta-ends-isolation-rules-as-bc-region-mandates-masks-again/
@#100 wallflower on 07.29.21 at 5:11 pm
Seems to me Alberta is saying to the unvax: go jump in the lake
Seems to me, eventually, we are all going to have to adopt that strategy++++

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Or as Spock would say ” The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few” and why should the rest be held hostage? I liked what she ( The Chief Medical Officer of Alberta ) had to say:

‘“Our health system will keep protecting Albertans who are exposed to COVID-19 while also ensuring that we are able to handle all other viruses and illnesses,” Health Minister Tyler Shandro said. “As the majority of us are vaccinated against COVID-19, we are adapting to make sure that the health system is ready to care for all Albertans, whatever their illness.”

“We only have a limited amount of resources,” said Hinshaw. “And if all we focus on is COVID-19, we’re allowing many other things to go without intervention. From a population level, that’s going cause more harm than good.”

For all you peeps who have not been vaccinated: ” The train is leaving the station. All aboard!” ( that last part is the Jaguar)

#136 J on 07.29.21 at 6:30 pm

#101 Left GTA on 07.29.21 at 5:14 pm
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I just wanted to say thank you for your service in the health care industry. And, I’m very sorry to hear how the COVID-19 disease has ravaged your father. I hope he is able to recover more and suffer less.

#137 Barb on 07.29.21 at 6:36 pm

Yes, yesterday’s comments section was horribly insulting to our host…and to some commenters as well.

Hated yesterday.
Discourse…remorse.

#138 Toronto_CA on 07.29.21 at 6:38 pm

#129 CALEDONDAVE on 07.29.21 at 6:10 pm
“Not getting vaccinated is paramount to suicide.”

Where do these people come from? I’m pro-vax, but I think some of the people on the pro-vax side sound as daft as the anti-vax.

Based on the CDC’s own risk estimates, if 70 years and below, and of reasonable health, the risk of survival if infected with the virus is 99.95%. Without the vaccine. That’s hardly a death sentence.
(source):
https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1197/rr

#139 Barb on 07.29.21 at 6:40 pm

Lulu always trying to save people made me smile.
We could’ve used her dedication on the blog comments.

#140 bobbyh on 07.29.21 at 6:41 pm

I still enjoy your daily comments. It just seems everyone is mad at old white dudes who have made a few bucks.

#141 PastThePeak on 07.29.21 at 6:41 pm

A vaccine passport is something debatable at least, but certainly it is worth exploring pros & cons of what this can mean longterm to civil liberty (don’t ever think that a gov’t will stop at a vaccine passport…).

But what about natural immunity? Shouldn’t someone who had Covid and recovered also get a passport if a blood test confirms the antibodies, or even just produce their positive test result from the past that proves they had it? I don’t ever hear this mentioned. Where is the “science” stating that vaccinations are better than natural immunity?

Making vaccination legally mandatory is just wrong. Medically and ethically. Remember the Hippocratic Oath…

Fully vaxxed + 3 weeks BTW…

#142 Nonplused on 07.29.21 at 6:49 pm

#42 Leasy on 07.29.21 at 3:59 pm

“Provide evidence children were ‘murdered’ at school. Go on. – Garth”

Oh, that’s easy. There are graves. How can there be graves if there were not murders???

sarc/off. Sadly that is how some people think. How it is that those people find this blog I am not sure.

I remember a time when it was rude and socially unacceptable to call people murderers, Nazis, misogynists, racists, rapists, child molesters, what have you, without at least some evidence. Now the insults just fly, no evidence required.

#143 Chalkie on 07.29.21 at 6:56 pm

Bunch of wimps, they can bring mommy along, then it’s OK to cry, when they get the needle.

#144 ppsez on 07.29.21 at 6:57 pm

Very well said Garth

Isn’t there too much liberty out there?

#145 DON on 07.29.21 at 6:58 pm

#94 Leo Trollstoy on 07.29.21 at 5:00 pm
When attempting to convince someone of our POV, calling them stupid doesn’t work very well

But I’m sure the intelligent know this already

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Yup…but stupid is what stupid does! Better people recognize that they might be the stupid ones before it is toooo late.

Truth hurts…pain heals…glory lasts forever.

Signed up for my second jab today for August Friday the 13th…(made me think). Then my best half reminded me that my mother in law was born on Friday the 13th (which made me think about something else). I’ll keep the 13th I may have bigger issues on the horizon. muhah ha ha.

#146 jess on 07.29.21 at 7:08 pm

Waterloo Region the vaccination numbers most approve

age 2doses age one dose %
• 80+ 83.55 80+ 87.59
• 70-79= 82.25 70-79 87.49
• 60-69= 76.41 60-69 84.12
• 50-59= 71.20 50-59 81.48
• 40-49= 67.47 40-49 80.24
• 30-39= 65.09 30-39 87.23
• 18-29= 63.82 20-30 87.07
• 12-17= 46.16 12-17 70.00

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Mr. Duterte argued that the coronavirus emergency trumped laws guaranteeing freedom of movement, calling his order “the law of necessity.”

“If they don’t want to be vaccinated, they should not be allowed to go out of their homes,” Mr. Duterte said. “They may say there is no law, but should I wait for a law knowing that many will die?”(nyt)

Duterte ordered village chiefs to prevent those in their communities who refuse to be vaccinated from leaving home.

“I am telling you, don’t leave your homes. If you go out, I will tell the police to escort you back to your house because you are a walking spreader,” Duterte said. “If you don’t want to help the country by getting vaccinated, then better stay in your homes.”

#147 AB on 07.29.21 at 7:10 pm

Why must we all have to pay the price for dumb ass anti- vaxxers gumming up the emergency wards across the country? Anti-vaxxers are no different than the drug addicts causing ambulance delays in Vancouver . At some point governments will have to put their foot down to limit the damage these antisocial dangerous idiots cause.

#148 Steven Rowlandson on 07.29.21 at 7:14 pm

The common cold blended with HIV components is Covid -19 and it kills less than the flu and you silly vaxxers want a needle in every arm even if it damages and kills the patient? Now that is cowardice…. Take your vitamin C and D3 , keep the toxic needles out your arms, quit committing crimes against humanity via vaccination and grow a pair.

#149 Refuse a vaccine, then no hospital for you on 07.29.21 at 7:18 pm

Thanks for the posts Garth
I agree with you 100 percent
I understand people want to have a choice, but when it comes to protecting the population there is no choice.
I bet everyone who reads this blog has had all the vaccines, just look at your arm do you have that major vaccination mark from when you were a kid, to numerous to publish. Yep thought so.

And I for one will be standing at the hospitals and protesting that not one person be allowed entry who refused to be vaccination. Actually I think I will start making my signs. And before anyone comments I have a right to express my views and a right to protest.
Funny now the shoe is on the other foot and you cannot say anything that denies my freedom and right to protest.

It will come, it is only the beginning the movement is growing…I personally know of five doctors in Vancouver that have a sign in the office that say ….if you have refused the Covid vaccine I refuse to make an appointment.
BRAVO

See you at the hospital entrance, remember I have rights
And the majority are speaking.

#150 devore on 07.29.21 at 7:21 pm

#87 Niagara Region

China meddles even more, and being the #1 economic power, have even more at stake, but it’s not fashionable to hate on China these days.

#151 Raj Tamesh on 07.29.21 at 7:24 pm

Why are they not responsible for deaths, chronic and short term health problems. I don’t want money for damages. I want to keep my health. I have to b responsible to others passing on a virus nut nobody or no entity is responsible for damaging my health. Let me guess, I am an adverse reaction or a medical error. Another number they don’t need anymore.

#152 Mattl on 07.29.21 at 7:25 pm

Not an anti vax guy, got my shot the afternoon it was available. I’ve put alot worse stuff in my system over the years, don’t see much risk.

That said, the fear on both sides has been embarrassing. 15 months in and I don’t know anyone that has died, only know a few people that contracted, and know 1 person that was what I would consider sick. And my network is massive, have staff all over the US, large business network, etc.

Both sides have greatly over reacted.

#153 Garth's Son Drake on 07.29.21 at 7:26 pm

The gov needs to mandate it.

Problem solved.

It is bs that the hesitant are being gifted cash money rewards to get the shot now, which is ass backwards.

#154 Brian on 07.29.21 at 7:32 pm

Love the blog, don’t read the comments. I’m afraid I missed that one.

I imagine of the co-operation of the London blackouts during WWII. How do you think that would go in today’s society? Many would refuse to turn out their lights because the government can’t tell them what to do! Others would not comply because they’re afraid of the dark. It wouldn’t end well.

#155 Drew on 07.29.21 at 7:34 pm

Of course its fear, and nuttery, but mostly fear. It’s frustrating that vaccines have made childhood mortality from diseases such a non issue that we get this crap now.

This comparing vaccines with Nazis and Mengele thing is so beyond incredibly stupid I don’t even know where to start.

#156 Pylot Project on 07.29.21 at 7:37 pm

MH on 07.29.21 at 6:06 pm
Germany still prosecuted Nazis decades after WWII and Canada should do the same.
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Canada should prosecute Nazis?

#157 Allan on 07.29.21 at 7:39 pm

You can’t compare past vaccines from 20 30 years ago. It is a human trial and not approved by FDA. It is a 3 year experiment 2025 the latest. By the way, the medication I know from many people are very damaging long term. Why would a new vaccine, medical treatment be any different.

Just tell everyone is a slave and have no rights. No human rights and what a BS that is from the UN. This way we know where we stand.

#158 Caleb on 07.29.21 at 7:51 pm

Sorry Garth but maybe just leave this one- as you state its fear people dont get the jab. Ultimately if they dont get it it’s you that becomes fearful.

#159 Senator Bluto on 07.29.21 at 7:51 pm

#40 kommykim on 07.29.21 at 3:55 pm
RE: #24 Senator Bluto on 07.29.21 at 3:35 pm
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No!!! Who’s with me?? Yeah!!!!

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Germans? You might want to crack a history book.

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Or you might want to watch “Animal House”

Sheesh………

#160 steve on 07.29.21 at 7:52 pm

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Love the blog, don’t read the comments. I’m afraid I missed that one.

I imagine of the co-operation of the London blackouts during WWII. How do you think that would go in today’s society? Many would refuse to turn out their lights because the government can’t tell them what to do! Others would not comply because they’re afraid of the dark. It wouldn’t end well.
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yes, but we don’t have a Churchill on our side.

#161 Aboriginal graves on 07.29.21 at 7:53 pm

I agree there are missing children
And where was everyone on this blog in 2015 when truth and reconciliation report was published? Even in the report it mentions research as early as 1911 that identified that First Nations mortality rate was ten times higher than the general population due to diseases.
This has become a media circus before all the facts are clearly published and understood.

https://ehprnh2mwo3.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/AAA-Hamilton-cemetery-FInal.pdf

But let’s be clear on one thing, radar sensing does not detect bodies it detects ground anomalies. Not all sensor readings is a body. And there is even evidence now that the graves were not unmarked. Many elders have stated there were wooden crosses at one time. And they disappear over time.

Are there bodies, yes, how many unknown, Truth and reconciliation estimated 5,000 after all the information was gathered. So why now why all this media hipe??

I agree with Garth they were not murdered!

As a Canadian I feel terrible what happened,
But this was a long time ago. And I am not responsible.
Everyone received compensation years ago. Billions!

#162 Dwight on 07.29.21 at 7:56 pm

When you’re dead, you don’t know it. Likewise for when you’re stupid.

#163 JohnDimas on 07.29.21 at 7:57 pm

Give back all my tax money for 40 years plus interest and you can refuse me anytime. $2 million now please. Dictators and tyrants come in all forms.

#164 Flop... on 07.29.21 at 8:00 pm

I remember the good old days when people wanted to sacrifice.

Now if you want to sacrifice you are up to no good.

You gotta fight for your right to sacrifice…

M47BC

#165 Re-Cowtown on 07.29.21 at 8:01 pm

I’m really on the fence about the Vaxxer thing.

The Japanese have a saying about eating fugu, which is a highly poisonous pufferfish. It is a highly regarded seafood delicacy, but prepared wrong it can kill you.

The saying is “Those who eat fugu are crazy, and those who do not eat fugu are also crazy”

The point is that every person has their own level of risk that they’re willing to tolerate. If you’re fully vaccinated, I kind of think it’s not your place to force somebody to do something, even if it’s for their own good, not for yours.

Darwin Awards are awarded for a reason.

#166 Todd on 07.29.21 at 8:05 pm

I have not been in the hospital and to a doctor for 20 years.Most people that go to a doctor, hospital are all dependent on the healthcare system and got the vaccines. They are at risk and still can spread the virus to others. The government is already saving a bundle on health care costs and taking alot of money off my paycheque. They have taken on average $700 a week the last 20 years when I was 23. My last paycheque deductions, taxes, EI, CPP is $1,100 a week.

This is not even including my RRSP’s that they will probably charge 75% tax rate the way things are going. I bet all said and done, $1.5 million is what I would have now if I even got a 5% annual interest rate over 20 years plus RRSP’s.

#167 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.29.21 at 8:07 pm

@#148 Steve HeadintheSand

“Take your vitamin C and D3 , keep the toxic needles out your arms, quit committing crimes against humanity via vaccination and grow a pair.”

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Wow .
Vitamin C and D3…. amazing the WHO, the CDC, any virologist on the planet…… didn’t come up with that.

You forgot about the bleach……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE

#168 radar technician on 07.29.21 at 8:08 pm

great answer to Leasy #42..she can probably tell by the ‘radar images’ that all remains were ‘murdered children’

#169 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.29.21 at 8:10 pm

#63 Sail Away on 07.29.21 at 4:15 pm
#24 Senator Bluto on 07.29.21 at 3:35 pm

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No!!! Who’s with me?? Yeah!!!!

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Wasn’t it the Austrians?
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Yeah, sure.
Just Arnie alone wiped out civilizations past and future.
Can you imagine what the rest of the Austrians can do?
Oh, I get it.
You referring to Mr. H.
Clever.

#170 Mordko on 07.29.21 at 8:13 pm

The common theme among anti-vaxxers and other conspiracists isn’t just fear but also stupidity. And an element of religious zealotry.

Sorry you got abused for saying the right thing. As per usual.

#171 Cdn Mom on 07.29.21 at 8:14 pm

#253 Father’s Daughter on 07.28.21 at 10:36 pm
Your patronizing response, filled again with your anecdotal story that nobody cares about/is not relevant to science, kind of proves that you’re not as smart as you think you are (or as the Infectious Disease doctors/other doctors directly involved in COVID response).
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LOL Arrogance in Posting award winner!

Pardon me, while I run out for my Chickenpox, Mumps, Rubella, and Measles vaccines. While I was always told I had these viruses in childhood during the late 60s and early 70s, clearly the diagnosing physicians MUST have been incorrect as there were no positive test results to prove it to Father’s Daughter.

#172 Rick Gregson on 07.29.21 at 8:15 pm

We do not live in Canada. We live in the Peoples Republic of Canada. We are now a transitioning communist country. Look at our money system, Bank of Canada. The vaccine is just to bring in more powers and policies that take away the just laws we have currently. This fall, winter we are finished.

#173 Brammer on 07.29.21 at 8:17 pm

Been reading your post for a few years now. This is one of the best.

Division is easy, but how do you create a common vision among a “country” of 13 mini-nations. Each with almost limitless power thanks to a weak constitution with an over-used notwithstanding clause. Serious federal leadership is needed.

#174 Loss of commonality on 07.29.21 at 8:21 pm

Quote: “This is then cloaked in the bravado of ‘freedom’, libertarianism and Trumpist iconoclasm”

Gee, I wonder if the politicization of a pandemic has anything to do with the lamented ‘loss of commonality of purpose’ and ‘unity’.

A handful of commenters here are practically orgasmic with the (completely false) fantasy that the virus is wiping out Trump supporters.

And they think they are the more intelligent, morally superior people.

Then there are those that believe Trump didn’t champion the early and rapid development of the vaccine (for which prominent Democrats Harris, Pelosi and ‘scientific experts’ ridiculed him).

So while you lament the division and lack of trust, you might want to consider exactly who politicized the pandemic in the first place.

You reap what you sow.

#175 another Albertan on 07.29.21 at 8:22 pm

A resounding “Thank you” Garth. Well said. Let’s act together to end this pandemic so we can get on with our lives.

#176 PastThePeak on 07.29.21 at 8:25 pm

For those under 65 years old, the greatest risk factor for hospitalization (or worse) with Covid is…obesity. Multiple studies out there that show this correlation, both at a population level, and individual cases.

And yet, I have NEVER seen this mentioned once in mainstream media (TV news, news articles). You would think, that with the worst pandemic in a century, some level of information might be mentioned to raise awareness. Nope – silence. Why?

Political correctness does indeed kill…

#177 BC Doc on 07.29.21 at 8:30 pm

I remember learning about late 19th century francophone Montrealers paying the ultimate price for vaccine refusal back when I studied medicine at McGill. Willful ignorance and paranoia in the face of science persist.

https://www.macleans.ca/news/how-to-encourage-vaccine-hesitant-people-to-get-their-covid-shots/

#178 Sydneysider on 07.29.21 at 8:30 pm

Historically, the reason why society insists on “informed consent” for medical procedures is rooted in post-war research by the medical establishment.

The practices described in the 1960s by Pappworth in the UK and Beecher in the US led to wide reforms that have been so effective that society has forgotten what used to go on, even at august institutions such as the Hammersmith Hospital (now part of Imperial College). To today’s reader, Pappworth’s grim catalogue of medical abuses that were going on in the UK in the 1950s and 1960s seem almost incredible.

If the public abandons this simple but quite effective ethical boundary, you can be sure that scientists will do whatever they like (the slippery slope principle). With tools like CRSPR that are available today, the outcome will not be pretty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Henry_Pappworth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_K._Beecher

#179 NewWest on 07.29.21 at 8:30 pm

#148 Steven Rowlandson on 07.29.21 at 7:14 pm

The common cold blended with HIV components is Covid -19 and it kills less than the flu and you silly vaxxers want a needle in every arm even if it damages and kills the patient?

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Jesus Murphy/câlice de tabarnak – first time I’ve heard this one. And I thought the 5G chip conspiracy was bad.

The bots seem to be getting desperate for new material.

#180 Felix on 07.29.21 at 8:32 pm

“The bottom.”

Sigh.

That’s where you go when you repeatedly pander to dogawful canines and their low IQ human idolators.

Instead, how about putting pictures and stories about cats on this blog every day instead?

This will drive away most of the anti-vax nitwits, and the IQ of your average reader will increase by at least 40%.

As you sow, so shall you reap

#181 Dill on 07.29.21 at 8:32 pm

Does anybody know why the ‘Vaccine Injury
Support Program (VISP)’ (https://vaccineinjurysupport.ca/en) exists for such a safe vaccine, or why this program gets no media attention? Be curious to see how many claims have been submitted to date…at least the government is there to ‘support’ while the manufacturers are relieving themselves of liability.

#182 Logical Guy on 07.29.21 at 8:34 pm

“#117 katzndogz on 07.29.21 at 5:49 pm
Honestly, I don’t mind if antivaxxers get covid. I just don’t want to be paying for their care.
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Honestly, I don’t mind if smokers get cancer. I just don’t want to be paying for their care.

Is smoking infectious? – Garth”

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I’m willing to bet smokers have caused millions more ‘infectious’ deaths via second hand smoke than unvaccinated people have caused to the vaccinated.

Unless, again, you have evidence that shows vaccinations are failing on a massive scale, which I certainly don’t believe. All the evidence is that they are a massive success.

#183 What the ? on 07.29.21 at 8:37 pm

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

#184 TurnerNation on 07.29.21 at 8:39 pm

Economic lockdowns – Macro and Micro.

— Almost back to normal in Kanada guys, any time now! Think 2022-23 and onwards.
Note Ontario has NO full re-opening plan. Hint Hint. Smiles are still banned.

.Ottawa Comiccon cancels 2021 event due to COVID-19 pandemic (ottawa.ctvnews.ca)

.COVID-19: Masks should remain in place heading into the fall, says Ottawa’s top doctor (globalnews.ca)


— Downunder in the ‘test zone’:

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/live-breaking-news-sydney-lockdown-updates-and-nsw-covid19-case-numbers/live-coverage/0baccba70faa98ef247ddedee5aecc89
“Live Breaking News: Government preparing for lockdowns to drag into next year
Alarming new modelling shows the government is preparing for targeted lockdowns to run into next year, crushing the hopes of millions of Aussies. ”

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It works yes? Welcome to global medical kamp.

“LOS ANGELES – In a policy shift, the Los Angeles Unified School District announced Thursday it will require all students and district employees returning to in-person activities for the upcoming academic year to undergo “baseline and ongoing weekly COVID-testing,” regardless of vaccination status.”
https://www.foxla.com/news/lausd-to-require-covid-testing-for-all-students-staff-regardless-of-vaccination-status
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— Camps CDC? Healthy? Too bad – you are ‘high risk’.
Green zone…where have I heard that before. Oh yes, Iraq warzone. That’s what we are living in.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.html
A designated shelter/group of shelters (max 5-10 households), within a small camp or area where high-risk members are grouped together. Neighbors “swap” households to accommodate high-risk individuals.

Camp/Sector Level:
“A group of shelters such as schools, community buildings within a camp/sector (max 50 high-risk individuals per single green zone) where high-risk individuals are physically isolated together.

One entry point is used for exchange of food, supplies, etc. A meeting area is used for residents and visitors to interact while practicing physical distancing (2 meters). No movement into or outside the green zone.”

#185 WEF_Great_Reset on 07.29.21 at 8:41 pm

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#186 mark on 07.29.21 at 8:43 pm

Everyone likes free advice, but when its dodgy what do ya expect?

#187 The joy of steerage on 07.29.21 at 8:44 pm

#148 Steven Rowlandson on 07.29.21 at 7:14 pm
The common cold blended with HIV components is Covid -19 and it kills less than the flu and you silly vaxxers want a needle in every arm even if it damages and kills the patient? Now that is cowardice…. Take your vitamin C and D3 , keep the toxic needles out your arms, quit committing crimes against humanity via vaccination and grow a pair.

You move to the top of the pile for stupidest antivaxer comment yet….
Wow… the scientific illiteracy on display in the comments is stunning… there have always been the village idiots… but now they just spew their drivel on social media….in their silly echo chambers

#188 Former Fool on 07.29.21 at 8:45 pm

Garth,

I have a lot of respect for you. You are a good decent man, and I know your heart and mind is in the right place with your posts. It is shameful that those with different opinions than you choose to insult you. If they disagree, they should attack your position with a logical analysis, not you as a person.

I have been fully vaccinated (Pfizer x 2), and have taken a lot of vaccines in my life, including the disgusting tasting Dukoral for Cholera (it tastes horrible). I take flu shots every year. I’m no anti-vaxxer.

The idea of microchips in the vaccine is just flat out stupid. Too much to get into but from an engineering perspective, it makes no sense considering the constraints of such a small chip.

I believe these vaccines are effective against Covid 19 and its variants and have encouraged all my friends and family to take it. Most have.

With all that said, I take exception with your statement: “vaccines should be mandatory”. To force someone to take a vaccine is a complete violation of their person, their human rights, and their autonomy. Ultimately, it is our right to decide what enters our bodies.

If a country does not want to let an unvaccinated person in – fine with me. That unvaccinated person has no right to entry in any country, aside from that nation of which they are a citizen.

If a business does not want to serve an unvaccinated person, that’s okay with me too. Business get to choose their customers, and vice versa.

Though, if an employer insists on vaccination as a condition of employment, I take exception with that. I know of a few companies that have chosen to not go that way – and it’s the right decision. Instead, I’ve seen leaders of these companies lead by example and take the vaccines themselves, and encourage employees to do so. Besides, if someone has a severe adverse reaction to the vaccine (rare but possible), does that not expose the employer to a legal liability? I think most would prefer not to have that.

As the vaccines are highly effective, I think there’s something to be said about letting the unvaccinated take their chances at the office, knowing that they might contract it from another unvaccinated person, or from a vaccinated person who carries the virus but has no symptoms. They’re putting themselves at the most risk.

I am okay in general with entities taking measures to refuse service to the unvaccinated. Such as denial of entry into a restaurant, a concert, or to a country in any scenario aside from a returning citizen.

An argument that could be worth making instead, but is a can of worms: should those who are unvaccinated, but contract Covid and require health care services, be required to pay for those services? Maybe. But then again, do we charge for cancer treatments for those who are lifelong smokers? Would we have to amend the Health Act?

In short, I encourage everyone to get vaccinated, and support measures by entities to not serve the unvaccinated as such entities have that right. But I don’t support mandatory vaccination. Too far Garth.

#189 Needlegeuse on 07.29.21 at 8:45 pm

Thanks Garth I enjoy your blog

#190 Jake on 07.29.21 at 8:48 pm

A standing ovation for this message. Thank you.

#191 Sprawl on 07.29.21 at 8:49 pm

The Dog Pound gets so weird, vexatious and surreal sometimes. Not sure its healthy reading all the mail. Maybe consider someone else do it sometimes. Take care Garth Turner.

#192 Frank on 07.29.21 at 8:54 pm

when we are busy with jobs,competing, planning, buying, our minds are occupied
when we have 18 months to think , it is overwhelming
Covid, global warming, inflation, the unfairness of life
I am mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore
We find causes, people, ideas to blame for the worlds troubles
This toxic mindset will jeapordize our ability to battle the next black swan event.
Right now anarchists, people who don’t see themselves as the winners in the present world order want to kick over the card table and start over.
If people don’t like what is in everyones best interest, shun them from society.

#193 Franco on 07.29.21 at 8:59 pm

Excellent post, exactly written as I feel about what is going on. Hopefully the message gets through.

#194 KLNR on 07.29.21 at 9:06 pm

@#172 Bad Cdn Mom on 07.29.21 at 8:14 pm

#253 Father’s Daughter on 07.28.21 at 10:36 pm
Your patronizing response, filled again with your anecdotal story that nobody cares about/is not relevant to science, kind of proves that you’re not as smart as you think you are (or as the Infectious Disease doctors/other doctors directly involved in COVID response).
……..

LOL Arrogance in Posting award winner!

Pardon me, while I run out for my Chickenpox, Mumps, Rubella, and Measles vaccines. While I was always told I had these viruses in childhood during the late 60s and early 70s, clearly the diagnosing physicians MUST have been incorrect as there were no positive test results to prove it to Father’s Daughter.

just get vaxxed already lady.

#195 NEVER GIVE UP on 07.29.21 at 9:06 pm

People who drink too much and drive lose their Freedom to drive.
People who harm others in so many ways, Lose their freedom and go to jail.
People who drive too fast and get caught, lose some of their financial freedom because they received a ticket.

How much of a stretch is it to understand that people who are not Vaxed are causing harm to others?

Could we not easily keep them off of transportation and out of public spaces if not vaxed?

Spineless politicians are toying with us by using them for votes. Perhaps after the next election we may see some real action on this front.

Unvaxed people are infringing on my freedom to travel by keeping many countries from allowing us in!

We have a chance to shine here and become one of the trusted traveler countries that everyone wants to let in!

#196 Doug on 07.29.21 at 9:20 pm

Frank, how far will you go to obey your government now, dictator later if not careful? I don’t see anyone saying we are all slaves in this society. This is the truth and nobody wants to admit this. Say it everyone, we are all slaves. Maybe we should have those tapes now digital recording everything that says we are all slaves hundreds of times a day. This way we know there is no such things as rights.

#197 Gord on 07.29.21 at 9:22 pm

Classic post! Bang on Garth.

#198 Richard Raymond on 07.29.21 at 9:27 pm

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#199 RapierWit on 07.29.21 at 9:31 pm

I only wish that some sort of Dumbass Vaccine was in the works. Will have to chat with my vaccinologist buddies. Perhaps a new project.

#200 Lead Paint on 07.29.21 at 9:40 pm

#26 Rook on 07.29.21 at 3:40 pm

Excellent post and points. This vilification is more dangerous than the germs.

There is tremendous fear all around making otherwise rational people hysterical.

#201 Dan on 07.29.21 at 9:51 pm

I laughed myself silly – “you would throw in your lot with Nazi doctors” is wrong on so many levels!

On the other hand I do not think I could stand abuse like this if it would be directed to me daily.

Garth – you are made of much sterner stuff than I am! All I can do is to encourage you and hope that you will continue to have the nerve to write this great blog which is part of my daily ritual. Thank you!

#202 Paul B on 07.29.21 at 9:53 pm

Sorry, Garth, but you are well-intentioned, but wrong. The vaccine would make a lot more sense if there wasn’t a viable therapeutic (see FLCCC.net) . There is a published meta-study demonstrating the effectiveness of Ivermectin. Given there is a viable therapeutic, the Emergency Use Authorization of an experimental vaccine is not valid. The vaccine causes massive clots in a very small number of people. But, in a larger number of people. about 68% of the time, there are micro-clots formed…and we do not know the long term effects of this. There are valid reasons not to follow the herd instinct and get innoculated with an experimental quasi-effective mRNA vaccine after which in the USA you still have to wear a mask.

#203 Sox Rewards on 07.29.21 at 9:56 pm

#153 It is bs that the hesitant are being gifted cash money rewards to get the shot now, which is ass backwards.

And you probably voted for Sox. Take tax from those working hard and give it to those sitting around. Funny how that works.

#204 45north on 07.29.21 at 10:05 pm

Garth

I like your final comments

Lay down that keyboard. Find your conscience. Take a look around. You live in a favoured place, in a time of promise. Act like it.

These conspiracy theories have an attraction for me, but my wife took the initiative and we both now are fully vaccinated. Much angst has been avoided.

I think you should focus on the spread of the virus among people who have not been vaccinated. Avoid, trying to categorize them into Republicans, Nazis, left-handed.

by-the-way, I’m surprised by the uptick in the number of positive tests in the US. The obligation of the authorities is to stop the health system from being overwhelmed. So far they have.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

#205 Shawn Allen on 07.29.21 at 10:09 pm

“K. LETCH strikes me as the coward and is certainly rude and self righteous. Let’s have his real name as he has mine and can look me up. I’ve disagreed with Garth a few times but he does not deserve this crap.

#206 Devon on 07.29.21 at 10:15 pm

Remember HIV drugs. Look it up. A host of problems. This is not known until decades now. I don’t see vaccines, medications made by big pharma having much more assurance. Any medical treatment, medication etc, always has longer term problems. This is just how it is. Is anyone worried about taking chemicals in their body?

#207 ImGonnaBeSick on 07.29.21 at 10:18 pm

#53 I am ” on 07.29.21 at 4:10 pm
The anti vaxxers issue is a self correcting problem. Lots of irony with these people. They are mostly Republican/Evangelical Christains. On one side they scream anti vax because “My body, my right to chose”, and in the same breath say abortions are manditory , not the mothers choise. But then Religiion is not really about spirituality, but about social control and the accumulation of wealth ( have you ever been inside the Vadican) ,just an obsene display of wealth. So have at it anti vaxxers, meet your maker, get er done

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You sound like an idiot.. and not nearly as funny as you think. I love how the line in the sand for intelligence is now whether or not you were vaccinated…

As far as bravery or cowardice, not everyone is willing to sign up for clinical trials.

I’m fully vaccinated, but I have family, friends, colleagues and employees that are hesitant. Not a single one of them is StOopID… The way I explain it to them is that there are two types of people that get the vaccine;

1. Those that are afraid of the virus, and that that is perfectly acceptable. And..
2. Those that need/want the green check mark in their passports.

By explaining and leading by example, I’ve convinced several to go get their shots. But just like I wouldn’t force someone to put their hands in the press to keep the line going at work, I also won’t force anyone to do anything they feel is unsafe in their personal life. Are you going to rip the masks off the people that refuse to stop wearing them after this whole thing is over? I would say I lean anti mask, and I’ll pity those that continue to succumb to some sort of psychosis when this is done, but I won’t force them to take them off in my presence.

As far as people lining up to do their civic duty, the vast majority of Canadians have. I think there’s a lot of fear on both sides of this argument.

#208 Genbizx on 07.29.21 at 10:21 pm

Name calling and jealousy. Just not right. Lashing out in frustration at someone who has a different opinion is unhelpful.
Garth, nobody knows how this will all play out. We will see. One thing is certain. We are in the grips of 2 viruses. One physical, which seeks to infect our bodies, and one which affects our minds and seeks to control our discourse. If you accept the narrative on all things covid, you are good, helpful, intelligent, informed, right. If you question at all you are wrong, ignorant, espousing conspiracy theories, unintelligent, have obvious political leanings….And you will be punished. Sounds like authoritarian regimes I’ve read about. Regimes that friends have lived under. It’s been a scary turn.
Why not truth seeking, open scientific inquiry, transparency, cooperation, using all resources to save lives? What have we allowed ourselves to become??

#209 Michael in-north-york on 07.29.21 at 10:27 pm

I don’t support mandatory vaccinations. The issue is much more complex than enlightened pro-vaxxers vs ignorant anti-vaxxers.

A policy that affects millions of people, and is created/updated in a rush, will inevitably lead to many unintended side effects. One problem is the status of people who cannot get vaccinated due to medical reasons. On one hand, a higher general vaccine intake will give more protection to such people, as there will be less chance for them to get infected. But on the other hand, forceful measures to push the vaccines to everyone will marginalize those people, they will have major difficulties accessing places and services.

Variations in the vaccine policies across the countries will cause issues, too. For example, back in the spring the government was telling people not to shop for vaccines and take the first one available for them. Now it appears that the combination of first doze AZ plus second dose Pfizer or Moderna isn’t recognized by several foreign countries, and Canadians who took that combination are at a disadvantage for the foreign travel. People who shopped for vaccines, simply by not going to a pharmacy for an AZ shot and waiting for the mRNA options to become abundant, ended up in a better position.

#210 time is running out on 07.29.21 at 10:37 pm

RapierWit, I know, look at all the idiots that think they are going to live along time to enjoy their free stuff coming from Trudeau, Liberals. After they force everyone to take 10 maybe more vaccine shots by the time the next election comes around in 2025 to 2026.

#211 ImGonnaBeSick on 07.29.21 at 10:40 pm

#26 Rook on 07.29.21 at 3:40 pm

This guy gets it. I agree with everything in this comment. Well done.

#212 Jeffery Botnick on 07.29.21 at 10:44 pm

Couldn’t of said it better myself!!!

#213 The West on 07.29.21 at 10:45 pm

Epic couple of days, sir!

Let freedumb reign!!!!

#214 Investx on 07.29.21 at 10:48 pm

Actually, following the politically-correct herd is cowardice.

#215 Prion on 07.29.21 at 10:48 pm

#202 Paul B on 07.29.21 at 9:53 pm
Sorry, Garth, but you are well-intentioned, but wrong. The vaccine would make a lot more sense if there wasn’t a viable therapeutic (see FLCCC.net) . There is a published meta-study demonstrating the effectiveness of Ivermectin. Given there is a viable therapeutic, the Emergency Use Authorization of an experimental vaccine is not valid. The vaccine causes massive clots in a very small number of people. But, in a larger number of people. about 68% of the time, there are micro-clots formed…and we do not know the long term effects of this. There are valid reasons not to follow the herd instinct and get innoculated with an experimental quasi-effective mRNA vaccine after which in the USA you still have to wear a mask.

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Ivermectin has been proven to be somewhat effective only when administered at the exact right time in the course of a covid infection due to its anti-inflammatory properties. Ivermectin is not something anyone should be taking as a preventative as it will damage living organisms including humans, which is why Ivermectin is effective against parasite and worm infections.

Even if ivermectin was the best therapeutic ever, it doesn’t prevent anything, which is where your argument around the EUA status of these vaccines fails.

I’m just waiting for someone to quote up the double folded protein prion disease that’s been going around lately. Fully debunked, like all your points, but that doesn’t stop people from believing and spreading this nonsense.

#216 Doug in London on 07.29.21 at 10:49 pm

I was also afraid of needles at kindergarten age. By the time I finished grade 1 in June of 1968 I grew up and, like a big boy, was no longer afraid of needles. Is growing up really that difficult?

#217 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.29.21 at 10:54 pm

@#199 rapierWit
“I only wish that some sort of Dumbass Vaccine was in the works.”

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It is.
And.
It works.

Haiku over.

#218 fishman on 07.29.21 at 10:55 pm

I’m surprised at the controversy over covid vaxing. When us kids went bumming around Africa, Asia etc I’d go to the doctor beforehand & tell him to fill me up. Everything you got. Never crossed our minds that vaccinations were anything but good. Over there drink Coke or tea that you see being made from boiling water. Eat only from a pot that you see boiling over the stove. Maybe theres just more ways to die nowadays. Seems to be a lot more worrying about it.

#219 SOMETHINGS UP!! on 07.29.21 at 11:01 pm

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#220 The joy of steerage on 07.29.21 at 11:02 pm

#206 Devon on 07.29.21 at 10:15 pm

Remember HIV drugs. Look it up. A host of problems. This is not known until decades now. I don’t see vaccines, medications made by big pharma having much more assurance. Any medical treatment, medication etc, always has longer term problems. This is just how it is. Is anyone worried about taking chemicals in their body?

Food is a chemical.. air is a chemical….we put chemicals in our body constantly.. vaccines are one of the greatest scientific and medical inventions there has ever been…. millions and millions of lives and disability saved.

Until HIV drugs came along it was a death sentence. millions of lives saved by the drugs… there are always side effects but what is your point………….

#221 Mike Holt on 07.29.21 at 11:02 pm

Calling pansies everyone who doesn’t agree with you in terms of experimental substance treatment is offensive and talks volume about the actual type of personality you are. Namely, rude and heartless, no matter how many degrees you have or how old you are. I have no problem with you taking the risks of taking an unapproved experimental drug that according to official sources doesn’t prevent catching or spreading the disease but don’t expect me to follow your suit. I clearly understand the price I may have to pay for not blindly obliging to the official party line and I consciously accept it. Even if it takes losing my assets and being deported to internment camps. I rather die as a free man than spend another day as a slave in communist Canucstan this country is being swiftly transformed to. You may live your miserable days and remember you made your contribution to the premature descent and death of innocent people.

OMG. – Garth

#222 Bob on 07.29.21 at 11:03 pm

Hi Garth,

I don’t comment often. Just wanted to say I support you. It’s a sad state of affairs we are in… and I am skeptical our politicians can fix these problems…. so that leaves it to our collective will, of which you provide a beacon of reason and hope.

#223 Confused on 07.29.21 at 11:04 pm

I started reading your blog to be educated…boy was I ever….crazy stupid comments!. Unbelievable people want unvaccinated people to pay hospital bills LOL LOL …..what the?????
Are these people a perfection of health????
When something hits them let’s say at 68??? Do we go back and say you abused your body so let’s make you pay for your health care?? I caught covid taking care of elderly people would I make them pay for medical bills??? Plus no doctor gave a shit about me while I had covid or Health practitioner even called me! Was told to take flu and cold meds but didn’t have the flu??? So we are told. So don’t tell me gov’t or health care cared for me at all.
Most of your blog comments make no sense. I will continue reading just to see how crazy Canada is.

#224 islander on 07.29.21 at 11:05 pm

We are still in the “dog days of summer” Garth. Time for a break. Come back after August 11. We’ll be in better form then.

“The dog days or dog days of summer are the hot, sultry days of summer. They were historically the period following the heliacal rising of the star system Sirius, which Hellenistic astrology connected with heat, drought, sudden thunderstorms, lethargy, fever, mad dogs, and bad luck.”

#225 The joy of steerage on 07.29.21 at 11:11 pm

#220 Mike Holt on 07.29.21 at 11:02 pm

Calling pansies everyone who doesn’t agree with you in terms of experimental substance treatment is offensive and talks volume about the actual type of personality you are. Namely, rude and heartless, no matter how many degrees you have or how old you are. I have no problem with you taking the risks of taking an unapproved experimental drug that according to official sources doesn’t prevent catching or spreading the disease but don’t expect me to follow your suit. I clearly understand the price I may have to pay for not blindly obliging to the official party line and I consciously accept it. Even if it takes losing my assets and being deported to internment camps. I rather die as a free man than spend another day as a slave in communist Canucstan this country is being swiftly transformed to. You may live your miserable days and remember you made your contribution to the premature descent and death of innocent people.

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A new contender for the blog’s greatest village idiot..it’s a tight race……….. what a stunning display of scientific illiteracy………….yeah baby, you da man

#226 Jane24 on 07.29.21 at 11:15 pm

Canada was never referred to as a ‘melting pot’ that term was used for the USA where all become 100% Americans. The term traditionally used for Canada was ‘mosaic” where incomers kept their own culture but layered Canadian culture over the top. We used to be slightly separated by ethnic cultures and this was fun, who didn’t like TO food festivals. Now we are separated by everything, the worst being how we think or how others expect us to think.

The enemy is within ourselves.

2019 is never coming back, Covid and the internet has created a different 2021 world of work and culture, one that is harder, more selfish and less generous to all. We just have to work with it and try to make it a world we can all fit into. Lockdowns emphasize a sense of self preservation rather than our usual western Christian sense of community. I am glad I was born in 1954.

#227 jim tow on 07.29.21 at 11:16 pm

This “vaccine” is not approved by the FDA and feel free to go to their website and see for yourself.

The government and policy makers in Canada haven’t shown much concern about me as they have sat on their butts while they escalated house prices and made Canada unaffordable and unliveable, so why should I go along with them and take an experimental rDNA shot?

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

#228 Grunt on 07.29.21 at 11:20 pm

Thanks for the blog Garth. Look on the bright side. We’ve had a pandemic without a Great War.

#229 pete from st. cesaire on 07.29.21 at 11:22 pm

“We sent 18-year-olds into the trenches and killing fields to win some world wars. And we did.”
Right there in-lies some of the concern.
For the last 20+ years people have been coming (rightly) to the conclusion that all of these wars were entirely built upon lies; and now the same power system that has been annihilating people and laying waste to countries worldwide for decades is trying to tell us that we MUST do something, it is the people’s duty to question it.

It seems like everyone, particularly those who comprise the most frighteningly obedient, dangerously naive segment of the population (men aged 30-65), has forgotten the basics of this supposed pandemic.
So let’s for a moment pretend that the government is being honest about the existence of Covid. The official story is that it has a 99.99% survival rate (100% for kids). This being the case, why is it so important to get absolutely everyone ‘vaccinated’, right down to the newborns? It makes no sense.
All other diseases of concern (cancer, diabetes, heart disease, etc etc) have a MUCH HIGHER fatality rate than that of ‘Covid’, so why do the governments seem to feel that these other diseases are of NO importance? They closed the hospitals during the lockdown, resulting in thousands of people dying unnecessarily from the inability to get the diagnoses of or the treatments required for the aforementioned illnesses.
Sufferers of diseases like cancer and diabetes are impeded from getting treatment by prohibitive costs associated with their necessary treatments. Many people can’t afford their insulin and many others go bankrupt from the costs of their chemo/radiation. Yet, we see that the Covid ‘vaccines’ are being provided free of charge to all, even people who are not citizens, have no insurance, no I.D. etc etc. So, again, I ask why do none of these other diseases matter?
Why should people have any faith in a system that obviously doesn’t care about health at all?

#230 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.29.21 at 11:22 pm

@#221 Mike Holt
“I clearly understand the price I may have to pay for not blindly obliging to the official party line and I consciously accept it. Even if it takes losing my assets and being deported to internment camps. I rather die as a free man than spend another day as a slave in communist Canucstan this country is being swiftly transformed to…”

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From Albertastan?

#231 Oakville68 on 07.29.21 at 11:24 pm

Wonderful post, so rational, so logical. Something we are sorely missing these days. Will be bookmarking this. Thank-you Garth for putting into words what alot of us are thinking (at the risk of being attacked by keyboard bullies) Love your blog.

#232 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.29.21 at 11:27 pm

@#224 islander
“We are still in the “dog days of summer” Garth. ”

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The scary version?

Last Summer Covid infections fell off a cliff and we were all cheering.
This Summer….Delta Covid infections are INCREASING daily and the flu season isnt supposed to hit us until Nov/Dec…..
Hope
Nay.
PRAY that the over worked Doctors and Nurses are willing to return for the worst Covid batch yet ….of unvaccinated “truthers” dying by the thousands in ICU’s…..

#233 Be careful what you wish for you may just get it on 07.29.21 at 11:27 pm

Mike Holt, I guess nobody learned anything from the history of tyrants and dictators and how their regimes work. In school I was told so many times Canada is different and we are a peaceful loving, free country. This is why my parents cam here from Poland. Now, I hear from them that the government is going too far.

I also heard from my Cuban friends that free healthcare was one of the tools Fidel Castro used to lie to the people to get democracy in and then socialism was his plan all along. We are 62 years later and they still can’t break free. Canada, it maybe too late and then what are you going to do under socialism or worse, communism.

Don’t dismiss others just because they are not always agreeing with you. Divide and conquer is how they do it.

#234 Jane24 on 07.29.21 at 11:32 pm

What I don’t see in North American blogs like this is any understanding that Covid will be with us for years and as per the British govt intentions yearly boosters will be required to combat the common Covid variants of that year, same as flu. This column like all of them seems to believe that Covid is a one-off with a one-off shot to combat it. Early immunity results seem to conclude that the protection of the shot wears off slowly after 6 months. Covid is not polio or mumps with single shot immunity. It will need constant updating.

So this argument needs to be resolved or it will rumble forward for the next decade destroying community cohesion and economic prosperity.

Canada is damn lucky to have vaccines for a 2021 shot for it’s population. I have friends in both Australia and Vietnam that are locked into their apartments by their govts for an unknown sentence as they have no vaccines. Until the whole world has enough vaccines to vaccinate everyone every 12 months in a constant cycle this thing is never going to stop. This is a big ask to finance.

#235 The joy of steerage on 07.29.21 at 11:33 pm

#228 Grunt on 07.29.21 at 11:20 pm

Thanks for the blog Garth. Look on the bright side. We’ve had a pandemic without a Great War
….
Don’t jinx things!

#236 Jim on 07.29.21 at 11:39 pm

A person should be able to assess the risk of moving forward and take what he thinks are the necessary actions to make that risk tolerable. This is the essence of freedom.

The idea of forcing a medical procedure on everyone to prevent the 1% risk of severe outcome is understandably offensive to many who would like the freedom to mitigate that risk. This idea should alarm everyone who believes in freedom in any form.

Robust debate is healthy because humans are individuals. Even undisciplined rational, including ad hominem discourse, demonstrates a free society.

But the word “mandatory” should be used carefully. Yes, it’s part of robust debate, but there’s a reason that word has generated a heightened response.

#237 Herd Mentality on 07.29.21 at 11:44 pm

I keep hearing about the greater good for society from government policies. I don’t know about you guys but just one example of the government/central banks which are two peas in a pot going too far is the whole thing about lower interest rates and easy, cheap credit, debt.

Look at Canada now from a nation of high savings to a nation of debt junkies. The whole medical system is going in the same direction. I would not be surprised if by the time a young adult today at 18 by the time he is no longer on this earth will have to take over 100 vaccine shots. We will become a world of drug takers, junkies.

#238 The joy of steerage on 07.29.21 at 11:52 pm

#227 jim tow on 07.29.21 at 11:16 pm

This “vaccine” is not approved by the FDA and feel free to go to their website and see for yourself.

The government and policy makers in Canada haven’t shown much concern about me as they have sat on their butts while they escalated house prices and made Canada unaffordable and unliveable, so why should I go along with them and take an experimental rDNA shot?

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.


It is mRNA.. not DNA… big difference…and using the mRNA of your own cell machinery to produce the needed spike protein and trigger a protective immune response is a stunning scientific achievement… this is cool cool science… it is now being used to develop vaccines for other diseases because of the specificity and speed it can provide… this has been 30 years in the making..just waiting for such a moment to shine.. and shine it has… already saving millions of lives…

Yes it’s experimental and for “emergency” use… and yes yet to receive full authorization …. but ya may have noticed millions were dying… so yes an emergency. the risk/benefit is massively in favour of the vaccines… all of them…

Nobel prizes on the way for mRNA vaccine developers….
This woman specifically…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karik%C3%B3

#239 Gonkman on 07.30.21 at 12:10 am

Good Luck all… Lets hope the Vax isn’t doing ADE or we are hooped. The CDC knows already. Seems like someone with a spine at the CDC leaked info to the WaPo.. Not exactly right leaning.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/

That’s why they changed the mask mandates. Vax no work so well after 6 months.

Canada looks good now.. Wait till Nov/Dec.

Lets hope the data is wrong but if the Vax does do ADE you Vaxxed will be the super spreaders.

Let’s hope its wrong.

#240 Ponzius pilatus on 07.30.21 at 12:10 am

#154 Brian on 07.29.21 at 7:32 pm
Love the blog, don’t read the comments. I’m afraid I missed that one.

I imagine of the co-operation of the London blackouts during WWII. How do you think that would go in today’s society? Many would refuse to turn out their lights because the government can’t tell them what to do! Others would not comply because they’re afraid of the dark. It wouldn’t end well.
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Best analogy yet.

#241 Charity on 07.30.21 at 12:12 am

#220 Mike Holt on 07.29.21 at 11:02 pm

Holy Hanna that was funny

Nah Fartz that’s clearly interior BC talk.

Why can’t we use emojis garth I want to put a few face slaps on this one bahahaha

#242 Jim on 07.30.21 at 12:14 am

The title of yesterday’s blog was pure projection, loved it.

#243 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.30.21 at 12:18 am

#160 steve on 07.29.21 at 7:52 pm
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Love the blog, don’t read the comments. I’m afraid I missed that one.

I imagine of the co-operation of the London blackouts during WWII. How do you think that would go in today’s society? Many would refuse to turn out their lights because the government can’t tell them what to do! Others would not comply because they’re afraid of the dark. It wouldn’t end well.
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yes, but we don’t have a Churchill on our side.
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Even Hitler’s Germany had blackouts during the Allied raids.
Humans of all races like to live as long as possible.

#244 Charity on 07.30.21 at 12:20 am

#233 Be careful what you wish for you may just get it

I love how people reference history to predict future. If you are so scared GTFO before it happens. Nut jobs every where. Just do us a favour and leave the island it will save us from having to vote your @$$ off.

Smokey was a far better read then this crap. I think the people from nectonite have arrived. Damn I miss his commentary.

#245 NS in Calgary on 07.30.21 at 12:25 am

Thanks so much for the service that you provide! It takes a lot of courage to speak up like you do.

#246 Survival of the Fittest Rules on 07.30.21 at 12:32 am

For those not vaccinated who do get covid put them in a big tent outside of the city and wish them luck. That’ll fix the issue.

#247 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.30.21 at 12:33 am

#206 Devon on 07.29.21 at 10:15 pm
Remember HIV drugs. Look it up. A host of problems. This is not known until decades now. I don’t see vaccines, medications made by big pharma having much more assurance. Any medical treatment, medication etc, always has longer term problems. This is just how it is. Is anyone worried about taking chemicals in their body?
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Are you not worried about the chemicals that are in the cheap booze you’re drinking?

#248 Chris on 07.30.21 at 12:45 am

“The Sunflower” = a book well worth reading.

#249 I am less that zero percent now on 07.30.21 at 12:46 am

207;ImGonnaBeSick;
You may be right, I have become an idiot. I didn’t use to be this way, I use to be concerned for my fellow man and a believer in the greater good. And what changed me was Trump”s Bullshit and the risks he is imposing perpetuatiog the” Big Lie” I use to be agnostic towards Chistianity, but backing Trump spoiled that for me too. Now I seee them as a cult. So I have completly run out of any tolerence for Trumpers.

#250 Random guy on 07.30.21 at 12:48 am

I am grateful Garth that you spend precious time of your life trying to educate peoples about their financial wellbeing. However, some are not getting it as its for free….Maybe if they spend 50k+, in courses for financial education and investment they will appreciate more … I did my vaccine as I don’t want to prolong this crisis or put other peoples at risk. It wasn’t a hard choice as I wanted to get out of lock down and start o travel again. However, if some friends don’t want to get vaccinated I respect their choice as its them putting themselves at risk and their relatives. How about we accept that we are a drop in a bucket if we are called out of existence, because a botched vaccine or from Covid, or anything else, we can’t really do much about it anyway.

#251 Don Guillermo on 07.30.21 at 12:55 am

#167 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.29.21 at 8:07 pm
@#148 Steve HeadintheSand

“Take your vitamin C and D3 , keep the toxic needles out your arms, quit committing crimes against humanity via vaccination and grow a pair.”

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Wow .
Vitamin C and D3…. amazing the WHO, the CDC, any virologist on the planet…… didn’t come up with that.

You forgot about the beach……
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Who doesn’t love the beach

https://gomazatlan.com/do/stone-island/

#252 Diamond Dog on 07.30.21 at 1:09 am

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/politics/cdc-masks-covid-19-infections/index.html

Did I read that right? Delta is now feared to have an R0 or an “R naught” as it’s pronounced of 8 or 9? As contagious as chickenpox? Wasn’t so long ago that Covid19 had an R0 of 2.5 and Delta was recently reported as being around 3.5 to 4, or 60% more contagious than older variants. If this new info is true, wow! On top of becoming highly contagious, it’s feared to cause more severe illness. Interesting times:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/

If Delta is as contagious as chickenpox and causes more severe illness (as Delta with it’s faster replication suggests higher viral load), maybe we really should be looking at mandatory vaccines.

The U.S. hit 92,000 cases…. and it’s still July. World dailies are climbing as well. Hmmm.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

#253 Sail Away on 07.30.21 at 1:22 am

“Emotions neither prove nor disprove facts. There was a time when any rational adult understood this. But years of dumbed-down education and emphasis on how people ‘feel’ have left too many people unable to see through this media gimmick.”

-Thomas Sowell

#254 KRB on 07.30.21 at 1:22 am

Bravo Garth. Bravo.

#255 BC Doc on 07.30.21 at 1:40 am

https://www.macleans.ca/society/health/when-the-plague-won-a-history-of-vaccine-hesitancy/

Sorry Garth— this is the link I meant to post. The story of the last smallpox epidemic in late 19th century is extremely interesting and educational. For anyone interested, I would highly recommend tracking down a copy of the late Professor Michael Bliss’ book on the same.

#256 Just wait on 07.30.21 at 2:10 am

Until the studies come out that show that masks that are not N95 and more importantly not worn or handled with anything remotely close to the protocols medical staff use to make them effective actually gave a false sense of security to elderly and others at high risk to break quarantine and go to grocery stores where they were in contact with surfaces and products touched by hundreds of others daily.

Science is hard kiddies.

Simply believing and regurgitating what you hear on the idiot box is dangerous to your health.

Proper quarantines (meaning you don’t allow high risk people into contact with anyone not fully protected and tested) and proper mask protocols work.

But amateurish versions of those do not. Guess which version almost every nation used.

You read it here first.

#257 Toronto_CA on 07.30.21 at 3:26 am

“Is smoking infectious? – Garth”

Second hand smoke is a thing, especially in households with children. So in a way, yes it is.

But as you should well know, that’s irrelevant to this discussion entirely because we are speaking of paying for treatment to the individual that gets Covid symptoms from not taking the vaccine. No one here or elsewhere is suggesting we don’t treat others infected by said anti-vaxxer.

Garth, really ashamed at your stance in this. For some reason I assumed you’d be pro-vax and anti-mandatory, like most sane individuals. The courts and history would take a very different view to you I believe.

#258 Jumping frog on 07.30.21 at 5:16 am

Garth time for another poll, can we have a show of hands how many people have changed their mind on this topic after being insulted, threatened, denigrated, vilified or called names by the other side?

Anyone? Bueller?

#259 Scooter on 07.30.21 at 5:29 am

Well Done!! Thanks Garth!

#260 Paul B on 07.30.21 at 5:52 am

#215 Prion on 07.29.21 at 10:48 pm

“Fully debunked, like all your points, but that doesn’t stop people from believing and spreading this nonsense.”

I don’t think the points I made are debunked, except by you. I will look forward to reading your published papers on the topic.

#261 Wait There on 07.30.21 at 6:50 am

#233
You are correct. What is lost here is that we need to respect those who disagree and live with the consequences.
All those who have never exceeded the speed limit, please put up your hand. Did you know that by exceeding the speed limit you have endangered others. Now what should we as a society deal with you?
All those who have eaten french fries….we should stop funding your health care because french fries cause an extra burden on others who don’t.

Yeah, I will hear..It’s different this time.

#262 DavidW2 on 07.30.21 at 6:56 am

Well said Garth. Keep doing what you’re doing.

#263 Immigrant man on 07.30.21 at 7:24 am

Great post. Some are distrustful of the government and big pharma and their “experimental vaccines”. Ok, I get that position. I don’t agree with it, but I get it. But you trust the unknown chinese virus?! That I don’t get.

#264 Prince Polo on 07.30.21 at 7:49 am

People who refuse to get vaccinated should not have the same privileges as the rest of us. They should not be able to sit in restaurants or bars. They should not be able to work out in gyms. They definitely should not be able to work in long-term care homes or hospitals.

In the meantime, we continue to get down on bended knee and plead with people to get vaccinated.

The other day the B.C. government announced a campaign to get resisters to end their holdouts. As part of it, health officials will set up pop-up clinics on beaches and parks to entice people.

What’s next? Offering to come to their homes with a double chai latte? It’s ridiculous.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-time-to-get-tough-with-vaccine-resisters/

#265 Reximus on 07.30.21 at 8:12 am

My colleague is a hard-core flat earther, spends a lot of time on FE blogs…now he’s an hard-core anti vaxxer, and guess where he gets his vax info: on his flat-earth websites

The venn diagram of flat earthers and anti vaxxers is basically a circle

#266 Penny Henny on 07.30.21 at 8:17 am

#158 Faron on 07.28.21 at 6:52 pm

#77 Penny Henny on 07.28.21 at 5:07 pm

Faron, you off your meds again?

Oops, level 3.

But, I’ll respond: I take Diphenhydramine for certain aggravations I experience here. Seems to work for the common ragweed AKA pennius-hennius.

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Try some Preparation H instead.
But seriously your mood swings are off the charts.

#267 Yuus bin Haad on 07.30.21 at 8:18 am

Anyone for tennis?

#268 Father's Daugther on 07.30.21 at 8:37 am

#171 Cdn Mom on 07.29.21 at 8:14 pm
#253 Father’s Daughter on 07.28.21 at 10:36 pm
Your patronizing response, filled again with your anecdotal story that nobody cares about/is not relevant to science, kind of proves that you’re not as smart as you think you are (or as the Infectious Disease doctors/other doctors directly involved in COVID response).
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LOL Arrogance in Posting award winner!

Pardon me, while I run out for my Chickenpox, Mumps, Rubella, and Measles vaccines. While I was always told I had these viruses in childhood during the late 60s and early 70s, clearly the diagnosing physicians MUST have been incorrect as there were no positive test results to prove it to Father’s Daughter.

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Most of my is directly involved in health care roles that have been responding to the pandemic (pharmacist, respiratory therapist, ICU doctor, nurses etc etc).
I beg to say that we know something about health care/medicine that many armchair experts on this blog may not.

That being said, I never claim any special expertise and refer to the experts in the field when it does to an issue such as vaccination/Infectious diseases/guidelines etc. That is why there are experts. Do rest assured that the front-line workers are, in fact, burnt out and the extra mile they will be taking for unvaccinated patients (if staff is available) won’t be happening.

Disease specific titres can and are taken during things like pregnancy to ensure immunity (one of the first things they do). Keep riding the wave of protection from all of the responsible citizens who get their vaccines, as anti-vaxxers due. Measles, a preventable disease that often affects children, is making a comeback in North America due to anti-vax crowd. Are these diseases currently ravaging the world, causing a global pandemic not seen in 100 years? There is a reason why everyone is asking people to take their COVID-19 vaccine, right now.

While I don’t think anyone is actually arguing for mandatory vaccination (forced needle in arm), exclusion
from travel/public spaces/schools etc. is prudent given the ongoing rates of transmission. This may change when the diseases are circulating at a much lower rate (like the ones you mentioned, which is why nobody is asking you to run out and get your vaccines for these)

In regards to commenters on not funding health care related costs for unvaccinated people. Probably never going to happen and his would require extensive ethical review that it would probably not pass. Not really a fair comparison to exclusion or other self-inflicted problems, as a vaccination is much simpler than say, curing an addiction or even quitting smoking. I wouldn’t say no to tax credits/incentives for people who can live healthier though. Incentives work, according to Biden, who is supporting paying people to get their shot (sadly, I support this too, as I really don’t care what it takes to get the buy-in)

That being said, provincial health insurance should not and does not have to cover everything under the sun. Unless we have unlimited money and want everyone to live forever.
There are already tons of exclusions to health care, such as pharmacare. People go home all of the time with prescriptions for expensive medications that they will never be able to pay for, thus worsening their disease progress.

The most common of medications are not covered. Want to talk about ICU burnout among nurses (hot topic on the media) due to COID-19? They were already burnt out. The futility and endless care offered and often pushed by uninformed families is a drain on resources and on personnel. Many would argue that certain states of health (ex. advanced dementia, scores of X, Y, or Z on this disease) would disqualify one from endless treatment as the outcomes are so poor. Doctors are in a tough legal situation with no clear guidelines, so it’s all done. So no, I don’t think it’s an entirely ridiculous idea for health care insurance to have exclusions. Have you ever seen the exclusions on travel insurance? We don’t have to cover everyone for everything. In fact we are ripping people off from the basics (dental, pharmacare, access to procedures) by spending so much resources on the aforementioned.
I’m sure those who have had surgeries/procedures/care delayed due to the overwhelmed ICUs aren’t feeling too warm and fuzzy to the anti-vaxxers (not fair in the early stages when everyone wasn’t eligible, but will become an ongoing issue of triage). Many of their problems were completely unpreventable. Don’t even get me started on business owners. Your MMR status is irrelevant to this, your COVID-19 isn’t.

#269 Barb on 07.30.21 at 8:47 am

So, if it were today announced that an mRNA vaccine would prevent cancer and/or diabetes, these no-vaxx people would say “no thanks”?

#270 SomeFacts on 07.30.21 at 8:55 am

“The pandemic has increased social stress, kept people apart, broken familiar bonds, disrupted school, work and leisure life.”
Not the pandemic, that was the government. People do get together in difficult times but not when they are being isolated on purpose.

“Together we’re strong. Fear and weakness lead to really bad outcomes, as a person or a nation”
Yup, fear led to 80% getting the jab. Can we speak of societal division with an overwhelming majority? The other contributing factor to jabbing was ‘to be able to travel’, alongside sheer naivety.

The author’s call for mandatory vaccination, sustained by a handful of activists, does not really mirror in reality, most of the vaxers mind their own life and don’t get bothered by the unvaxers. “The pandemic of unvaccinated”, “Vaccination should be mandatory”, stated in a previous article, that’s just a form of extremism and one side minded, is that this blog about?

#271 Dharma Bum on 07.30.21 at 9:00 am

It has been made clear that the ONLY long term solution to contain COVID (i.e., reducing the number of cases and hospitalizations) aside from locking down society and destroying the economy and sanity of everyone, is to get vaccinated.

Vaccines are the solution.

Those that get vaccinated are part of the solution.

Those that refuse to get vaccinated are part of the problem.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

If you are part of the problem, please remove yourself from society voluntarily.

Stay home. Stay isolated. Stay the eff away from me.

Just sayin’.

#272 the Jaguar on 07.30.21 at 9:00 am

OMG. Garth..gird your loins. Harper is on the front page of the National Post this morning. Where are my smelling salts?

#273 the Jaguar on 07.30.21 at 9:12 am

Excerpts……..

‘Meanwhile, among people who do not intend to be vaccinated, 87 per cent said it would be unfair to place restrictions on them, while just three per cent agreed that vaccinated people should enjoy special freedoms.’
( See who is holding who hostage here??)

Vaccination of workers has been a big issue in the U.S this week, where there has been a major push from the private and public sectors to make vaccines mandatory for employees.’

‘This week, tech giants like Facebook and Google have said they will require employees to be vaccinated before returning to work, Netflix is demanding shots for actors on its U.S. productions, and government workers in the state of California and New York City will need to have jabs.’

‘On Thursday, the White House said every federal employee and on-site contractor will be asked to attest to their COVID-19 vaccination status, wear masks, physically distance, and undergo regular testing if they are not vaccinated.’

#274 Boom Town Rat on 07.30.21 at 9:17 am

#36 Boom Town Rat on 07.29.21 at 4:01 pm

A harsh solution might be to make it clear to those who wilfully choose to remain Un-vaxed that if diagnosed with Covid, they are not covered by Provincial health care and must pay out of pocket.

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#59 Chris L. on 07.29.21 at 4:14 pm
Will you afford the same to alcoholics, smokers, people who don’t exercise good, and the lot? We’re all in this together…right?
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Will an alcoholic infect my aging mother? NO.

Will a smoker infect me? (indirectly, hence no smoking in many public places)

Will people who don’t exercise infect me? NO.

Please please please try harder.

Critical thinking is important, especially at this time in our lives.

#275 Diamond Dog on 07.30.21 at 9:24 am

I’m now a wealthy, old, cowardly Nazi engaged in the cruel vivisection of the young. – Garth

Don’t take it to heart, Garth. Broken people do broken things.

Some final thoughts (I’ve been quite active as of late but harvest, what little there is of it, is here now so…).

The contrast on American news coverage couldn’t be more polarizing. This is Fox news:

https://www.foxnews.com/

Check out “patches” O’Houlihan’s interview on the bottom left or Gutfield top left. Now, square that with CNN’s top reported story this morning:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/politics/cdc-masks-covid-19-infections/index.html

We wonder why the U.S. is such a mess? Look at the absolute polarization of news coverage on Covid19, among other issues. The CDC isn’t even a public health agency anymore according to FOX, it’s a Democrat institution, this is how politicized Covid19 has become.

It’s not just any one thing that takes down an empire. Poor leadership, degraded institutions of public and private education, PROPAGANDA, erosion of morality and right and wrong, values drifting away from virtues to material wealth, ever increasing levels of discrimination and so on, what we are watching is evidence of a world empire in decline. We are also seeing it in economics.

When main stream media outlets become nothing more than a partisan mouth piece that is passed off as “entertainment” by the consumer since so much of it is over the top you can’t give it legitimacy in any other way and yet, there is this constant push by it’s orators to be believed… you have a moral rot that erodes the strength of any empire much less the U.S. as large swaths of people create false realities that are no longer entertaining in the real world.

Listen Garth, I should apologize somewhat for comments over the last number of days. I know your interests spread well beyond the stellar writings of a brilliant man into the dailies of finance, wealth creation and wealth preservation. To that end, I likely haven’t helped with volumes all that much but my heart is in the right place and my brain is telling me that this is a market loaded with nosebleed valuations at a time filled with risks, chief among them Delta. Why have I taken the time in certain contexts to be such a shit disturbing pain in the bum?

Karma, my friend. Just karma:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Sometimes, it is that obvious. If the CDC is right (Delta is 2 to 3x more contagious with worse severity of disease outcomes and 1/3rd of vaccinated people will spread Delta with the same viral load as unvaccinated) and the clown show at FOX is wrong, the anti-vax propaganda machine talking some 1/3rd of the gen pop i.e. Republican base into not taking a vaccine, is an avoidable public health crisis in the making. The markets, with current valuations, will respond in kind:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-news/

#276 Father's Daughter on 07.30.21 at 9:24 am

#271 Dharma Bum on 07.30.21 at 9:00 am
It has been made clear that the ONLY long term solution to contain COVID (i.e., reducing the number of cases and hospitalizations) aside from locking down society and destroying the economy and sanity of everyone, is to get vaccinated.

Vaccines are the solution.

Those that get vaccinated are part of the solution.

Those that refuse to get vaccinated are part of the problem.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

If you are part of the problem, please remove yourself from society voluntarily.

Stay home. Stay isolated. Stay the eff away from me.

Just sayin’.

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100% accurate. Sadly, we’ll need a vaccine passport/certification to ensure that they don’t come where they are not welcome and that the rest of us can move on with our lives.

#277 the Jaguar on 07.30.21 at 9:26 am

Snippet ( non vax related), but shade of things to come…

“The pandemic has accelerated the transition to digital banking as branch closures and restrictions redirected customers to accessing financial services online — prompting speculation on whether the big banks will close brick-andmortar locations.

While the Big Six banks have been quiet on whether branches will be shuttered in Canada after the pandemic unwinds, closures have already happened south of the border. TD shut 82 branches in the U.S. in February to reallocate resources to digital banking alternatives, and all of Canada’s largest lenders temporarily closed certain branches during the pandemic due to restrictions.

Even before COVID-19 devastated global economies and incentivized customers to adopt digital banking tools, branch closures had accelerated. Canada’s lenders operated 5,820 branches in 2019, 483 fewer than in 2015.”

Three posts. My max.

#278 DIVISION on 07.30.21 at 9:40 am

#257 Toronto_CA

Nailed it. Your comment here 257 and 56 are 100% spot on.

I can’t believe Garth blocks anti-vax comments but doesn’t block those hateful, anti-human right, anti-civil society, anti-humanitarian comments that claim that we should withhold treatment from someone for any reason. Never mind the taxes they’ve paid into the system all their life.

To say that is an insane stance to take is an understatement. To allow it to be published it hate – plane and simple.

And smoking? IT IS A CHOICE! You choose to smoke! You choose to put it or not put it into your body. Should have know that eventually that abortion stance of conservatives would spill to other things, and here it is.

Look at this blog comments? Anti-vax equated to nutcases. Equated to uneducated. Paranoid people “tracking chips in the vaccine”. It is rediculous!

Follow the science they say? Do the people who say this even looked at the science? Do they have critical thinking capacity to think this through?

I actually find it fascinating that an EMERGENCY USE drug that is not fully certified has any standing in being mandatory. IT IS INSANE really just on basis of what the legal implications of that are. It’s a vaccine this time, what will it be next time, once the legal precedent is apparently established?

We’re losing our minds here.

Either the vax works or it doesn’t.

If it does, you took it, you’ve got the shield of invincibility. Enjoy your life. How does it have anything to do with anything?

You think you can just stop a coronavirus? You think it will just stop mutating in vaccinated people too? You think there aren’t at least 5 new mutations already? Delta is a year old mutation.

Can you people see what’s happening here? Stop the blaming. Stop the division. Stop the side taking. We’re human and it’s going to go how it’s going to go. Do what you think is right.

Certainly if you’re over 65 get vaxed because this thing is coming after you mostly.

You epitomize why vaccine passports cannot come soon enough. – Garth

#279 FriedEggs on 07.30.21 at 9:48 am

Listen, you have to vaccinate the unvaccinated because the vaccinated who have the vaccines aren’t working.

I hope that helps.

Of course they’re working. Instances of serious illness and deaths among the vaccinated are vastly lower than among the unvaccinated. The willful blindness among the anti-vaxers is breathtaking. – Garth

#280 DIVISION on 07.30.21 at 9:53 am

You epitomize why vaccine passports cannot come soon enough. – Garth

Are you talking about the vaccine passports that don’t recognize AZ vaccine? The vaccine passports that don’t recognize vaccine mixing? The vaccine passports that have put Canadians on quarantine list in England? ENGLAND Garth! Yeah, that England, where the 4th wave already is happening. Where 40% of hospital admissions by the way are 2x vaccinated individuals.

#281 IHCTD9 on 07.30.21 at 10:05 am

#64 Inequity on 07.29.21 at 4:15 pm
I used to think we need to put our differences aside because we are stronger together and we all have something to contribute that would benefit us all.

But years of being told that I am privileged because of the color of my skin, the education that I paid for myself, and the government job where I haven’t had so much as a COL increase in 10+ years. While the country gives a select few “special” statuses.
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Trudeau has delivered a fatal stab wound to every Canadian just getting started out, we’re all still in shock so we don’t feel it yet. It will be a while before we bleed out.

Ignore the identity politics and get yourself to retirement in good shape.

The Libs have irrevocably divided Canadians into residents of the “old Canada” (prosperous, wealthy, well supported by entitlements), and the “post-Trudeau Canada” (tax slaves for life, no assets for you, CPP by 80). It’s not something we can fix anymore, so be glad if you are on the good side of the Berl… I mean Lib wall.

#282 Phylis on 07.30.21 at 10:10 am

I’m sure Garth would also support everyone being invested too. But we know what people are.
On another note:
ofsi – release the chains!

#283 Trojan House on 07.30.21 at 10:11 am

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#284 Left GTA on 07.30.21 at 10:35 am

Polio, TB, Measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, and pertussis and I am sure many more are still taking lives or destroying lives today. Where are these mainly present? In LESS DEVELOPED COUNTRIES. Which is why children are still being immunized today. I feel very fortunate to be living in a country like Canada with all our comforts.

#285 The West on 07.30.21 at 10:35 am

#226 Jane24

Bullseye!

#286 The joy of steerage on 07.30.21 at 10:38 am

#280 DIVISION on 07.30.21 at 9:53 am
You epitomize why vaccine passports cannot come soon enough. – Garth

Are you talking about the vaccine passports that don’t recognize AZ vaccine? The vaccine passports that don’t recognize vaccine mixing? The vaccine passports that have put Canadians on quarantine list in England? ENGLAND Garth! Yeah, that England, where the 4th wave already is happening. Where 40% of hospital admissions by the way are 2x vaccinated individuals.
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Multiple studies are showing the mixing offers even better protection… try to keep up with the science…

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1421099253691150340?s=19

And cases are dropping steadly back down in UK… try to keep up from your bunker

#287 batt519 on 07.30.21 at 10:44 am

It’s sad that those who are overly vocal and think they are so right are also the ones in these posts being so vile and venomous demanding their position be mandatory.

Blow up your hdtv and cut the corporate cable package.

Have a great day to those jabbed and those not, it is a fabulous day in the 519!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTd3ZsvqDiQ

#288 George S on 07.30.21 at 10:46 am

Most, if not all, people that aren’t involved in scientific research that are doing their “research” about any scientific topic online don’t realize that most reputable journals have a paywall that prevents them from seeing the published and peer reviewed papers and what they are seeing are “preprints” or articles that have been submitted and are out for review by other scientists in the exact field as the authors of the paper.
When these articles are eventually published they can be completely different and may have been rejected by numerous other journals.
In addition, journals vary in their quality, some don’t even have legitimate peer review. Scientists in the field know which journals to trust and which journals are good and only pay attention to papers in those journals.

The initial research studies on all the assorted treatments for C19 showed possible usefulness for the treatments but the number of test subjects was small and in that type of study it is very difficult to have proper controls and blinding. In most cases the studies could not be replicated and the submitted articles were eventually rejected.

Researchers are desperate to find a treatment for C19 that can be administered after someone starts showing symptoms but like any viral disease it is very difficult, look at how much effort has been put into try to find a working treatment for the common cold.

People that have no scientific knowledge, and there are a lot of them, for example how many people that read a financial blog have a degree in biology or any experience in research, tend to misinterpret anything they read about science, especially when reported by journalists who have only taken grade 10 science.

It is obvious that Garth is consulting with experts in the field when he is writing about vaccinations.
It is obvious that Garth is consulting with experts in the field when he is writing about things financial.
What should be obvious to everyone is that Garth has integrity and is trying his best to give people sound advice in his blog.
He is most definitely not trying to indoctrinate people and take their money and use it for his own pleasure, his life is public service. He expects people to be decent and to at least try to do the best they can for their country and community and not be selfish.

What I am noticing is a complete 180 degree change in people’s attitudes towards things, largely caused by social media, that the individual becomes more important than the society. Where as a society we are being expected to sacrifice the good of millions of people because someone has a misguided belief that their “liberty” is being infringed upon.

It is just 0.5 ml of some stuff. If you get bitten by mosquitos you get injected with stuff, if you get a scratch you get injected with all sorts of bacteria and viruses, if you breathe you get viruses and bacteria and dust with “chemicals” into your respiratory tract. No matter how hard you try to avoid it. Everything is “chemicals”. Even your body. You have an immune system that prevents you from getting sick, exposure to things trains it to recognize stuff that makes you sick. Vaccines train your immune system ahead of time. That is it. It is not an infringement on your “liberty” or whatever.

All it is is somebody who cares about the quality of life of people and the quality of our society saying that the best way out of this pandemic is for everyone to get vaccinated. In all the research that has ever been done about pandemics, and there is a lot of it, that is the only solution that works and is fast and easy, especially for a Corona Virus.

Stop complaining. Go out and take a look around you. You have a lot, you live in a country where you can do whatever you want and have the best life quality in comparison to everywhere else. Enjoy it. It is all you are going to get. I know from personal experience that you will not be given an opportunity to take anything with you. Anyone that tells you different is just “feeding you a line of shit, kid” (a line from a book that I really liked)

#289 Mark on 07.30.21 at 10:48 am

1. Looks like Lulu is swimming in a glacial lake…she needs that 15lbs for insulation.
2. History proves time and again that if you tell the stupid what they want to hear, you don’t need an army. At present the reasonable, educated majority is financially and medically defended..taking care of themselves and their families. What happens when we get the next Trudeau?…the Trudeau that takes your retirement savings, your property, your education. What happens when Chrystia Goebbels tells the stupid what they want to hear…gives them a list of names…orders the construction of guillotines, justifies the Tiflis robbery.

#290 RyYYZ on 07.30.21 at 10:56 am

I can’t help but notice the anti-vax comments here are the ones most heavily populated with misspellings, grammatical errors, and general incoherence. Not to mention misinformation and outright bad science.

#291 NJS on 07.30.21 at 11:01 am

What started as a virus has mutated into an IQ test.

#292 KLNR on 07.30.21 at 11:01 am

@#271 Dharma Bum on 07.30.21 at 9:00 am
It has been made clear that the ONLY long term solution to contain COVID (i.e., reducing the number of cases and hospitalizations) aside from locking down society and destroying the economy and sanity of everyone, is to get vaccinated.

Vaccines are the solution.

Those that get vaccinated are part of the solution.

Those that refuse to get vaccinated are part of the problem.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

If you are part of the problem, please remove yourself from society voluntarily.

Stay home. Stay isolated. Stay the eff away from me.

Just sayin’.

Well put.

If you don’t plan on getting vaxxed, don’t plan on being part of society.

#293 Cadmar on 07.30.21 at 11:10 am

It is amazing the financial intelligence that the media has: very little. No wonder the average person is confused, not only with the economy, but also with the virus. For example, I am so tired from reading and listening to MSM that the Federal Bank is printing money when all Powell is doing is creating bank reserves which is merely an accounting gimmick and stays within the banking system and never enters into the real economy. Individual banks are creating the money from issuing loans and credit! Is this so hard for the public to understand? I am not shocked from the behavior towards the vax!

#294 DIVISION on 07.30.21 at 11:41 am

#286 The joy of steerage

Can’t accept twitter as science argument links. Link the published for peer reviewe studies please.

Studies may show but passports Garth argues about have those limitations in place. That’s fact. Can you go to US yet with your double vax?

UK numbers maybe dropping but it doesn’t change the fact 40% of admissions were double vaxed humans.

#295 Tarot Card on 07.30.21 at 11:46 am

Thanks for the blog Garth
Sorry you have to read all the posts
It does provide an interesting prospect as to what’s happening in society.
Good CBC post this morning about unravelling of society.
Well it’s clear blue skies today and whales dancing in the water.
Be grateful everyone!

#296 Chris L. on 07.30.21 at 11:51 am

#274 Boom Town Rat on 07.30.21 at 9:17 am

#36 Boom Town Rat on 07.29.21 at 4:01 pm

A harsh solution might be to make it clear to those who wilfully choose to remain Un-vaxed that if diagnosed with Covid, they are not covered by Provincial health care and must pay out of pocket.

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#59 Chris L. on 07.29.21 at 4:14 pm
Will you afford the same to alcoholics, smokers, people who don’t exercise good, and the lot? We’re all in this together…right?
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Will an alcoholic infect my aging mother? NO.

Will a smoker infect me? (indirectly, hence no smoking in many public places)

Will people who don’t exercise infect me? NO.

Please please please try harder.

Critical thinking is important, especially at this time in our lives.

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No, smoking will not affect others, it’s not contagious. We aren’t talking about that. We are talking about denying health services based on choice to not take the vaccine…as smoking is a choice, and we still treat people who get cancer from smoking.

Keep up dude.

If your health is my responsibly, then we seriously need to sit down and have an honest conversation about your daily habits.

#297 DON on 07.30.21 at 11:56 am

#272 the Jaguar on 07.30.21 at 9:00 am
OMG. Garth..gird your loins. Harper is on the front page of the National Post this morning. Where are my smelling salts?
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Election rounding the corner…need to rally the troops. Harper is way past his best influence date. Delusions of past accomplishments.

#298 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.30.21 at 12:00 pm

272 the Jaguar on 07.30.21 at 9:00 am
OMG. Garth..gird your loins. Harper is on the front page of the National Post this morning. Where are my smelling salts?
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What other news paper would put Mr. Sweater on the front page.
He’s old news.

#299 jim tow on 07.30.21 at 12:06 pm

@ The joy of steerage

“so yes an emergency. the risk/benefit is massively in favour of the vaccines… all of them…”

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risk/benefit is in the eye of the beholder…these “vaccines” have not been tested long term and there is no legal recourse if there are more problems than there already are down the road….go ahead, get the jab…fine by me…but don’t impose it on me.

Selfishness. Cowardice. Lack of civic duty. I am surprised to see so many people admit these things. – Garth

#300 Doug in London on 07.30.21 at 12:06 pm

Back in 2019 I remember watching a show about this anti vax cult. I thought, we need a good pandemic like the 1918 flu to shock us into reality and smarten us up. Wow, did I ever get that prediction wrong. I’ll post 2 other predictions I also got wrong.

In the late 1990s I became aware of this new technology called the internet, also called the information super highway in those days. I naively thought: Wow, with this technology everyone will be better informed. That will put to rest all that misinformation out there and put those stupid urban myths to rest for once and for all. I also got that one wrong.

I started investing, in mutual funds back in 1990. I realized that the best way to win with investing is to buy more equity fund units during those times when the market went on sale. I’m a Boomer myself and thought that because my generation is more educated than any previous generation, other investors would think the same way and that advantage would be lost. Again, as I found out during corrections in the 1990s and beyond, I also got that prediction wrong.

The problem is if you’re a person with some basic rudimentary early grade school common sense, you assume everyone else has it also. The truth is, you can’t fix stupidity.

#301 Don Guillermo on 07.30.21 at 12:07 pm

#297 DON on 07.30.21 at 11:56 am
#272 the Jaguar on 07.30.21 at 9:00 am
OMG. Garth..gird your loins. Harper is on the front page of the National Post this morning. Where are my smelling salts?
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Election rounding the corner…need to rally the troops. Harper is way past his best influence date. Delusions of past accomplishments.
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Ryan seemed to think he had accomplishments.

#163 Ryan Lewenza on 07.19.20 at 9:30 am
Stephen Harper become PM in Feb 2006. From 2006 to 2008 the Federal government posted surpluses of $13.2 bln, $13.7 bln, and $9.6 bln, respectively, so that’s three consecutive years of surpluses. Over that time Canada’s Federal debt fell from $490 bln to $457 bln. Then in 2009, as the financial crisis was unfolding, we fell back into large deficits as did every other developed nation. That’s because our economy was hit hard so we saw lower tax revenue and due to that pledge I referenced where all G20 countries spent 2% of GDP to help combat the effects of the FC. Canada had deficits from 2009 to 2014, and was essentially balanced by 2015 (just $500 mln in 2015). So under Harper we had balanced budgets until the FC, then big deficits in part due to the FC, and he returned Canada to a balanced budget by the time he left office and T2 took over. I think the data/facts support my position. – Ryan L

#302 The joy of steerage on 07.30.21 at 12:08 pm

#294 DIVISION on 07.30.21 at 11:41 am

#286 The joy of steerage

Can’t accept twitter as science argument links. Link the published for peer reviewe studies please.

Studies may show but passports Garth argues about have those limitations in place. That’s fact. Can you go to US yet with your double vax?

UK numbers maybe dropping but it doesn’t change the fact 40% of admissions were double vaxed humans.

The links to the published articles are in the twitter post. serious journals..in a twitter feed from a serious scientist. try to keep up.

You just need to have 72h covid test to travel to US…. try to keep up.

If 100% are vaxed then 100% of cases will be in vaccinated people…so that is meaningless use of stats…. the vaccines aren’t 100% effective…. but they are remarkably effective with a risk/benefit that far outweighs getting covid. try to keep up

#303 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.30.21 at 12:08 pm

Ya might want to think about getting a vaxx…..before the stampede

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-could-be-start-of-4th-wave-1.6123894

A 4th wave starting in Summertime…..

#304 Doug in London on 07.30.21 at 12:09 pm

@NJS, post #291:
Good observation! I’ll remember that comment for many years to come.

#305 DON on 07.30.21 at 12:10 pm

Diamond Dog

…It’s not just any one thing that takes down an empire. Poor leadership, degraded institutions of public and private education, PROPAGANDA, erosion of morality and right and wrong, values drifting away from virtues to material wealth, ever increasing levels of discrimination and so on, what we are watching is evidence of a world empire in decline. We are also seeing it in economics.

When main stream media outlets become nothing more than a partisan mouth piece that is passed off as “entertainment” by the consumer since so much of it is over the top you can’t give it legitimacy in any other way and yet, there is this constant push by it’s orators to be believed… you have a moral rot that erodes the strength of any empire much less the U.S. as large swaths of people create false realities that are no longer entertaining in the real world…

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Very slippery slope indeed.

Been watching ‘How to make a Tyrant’. great reminder of how countries take the wrong path and up end slipping towards less freedoms.

Degraded instutions and an uniformed media lay the foundation. I could go on but I won’t will stick to 3 comments.

#306 Since2007 on 07.30.21 at 12:17 pm

#11 Unmasked and Unvaxxed on 07.29.21 at 3:20 pm
“The Unvaxxed are a bunch of scardy cats!” He says as he gives up all his rights and rushes to get an experimental vaccine for a disease that he has more than a 99.9% chance of surviving.

Dipshit, that’s still 7 million dead. also its 99.9% survival because of all the measures taken by sane people and sane governments.

#307 DON on 07.30.21 at 12:27 pm

#223 Confused on 07.29.21 at 11:04 pm
I started reading your blog to be educated…boy was I ever….crazy stupid comments!. Unbelievable people want unvaccinated people to pay hospital bills LOL LOL …..what the?????
Are these people a perfection of health????
When something hits them let’s say at 68??? Do we go back and say you abused your body so let’s make you pay for your health care?? I caught covid taking care of elderly people would I make them pay for medical bills??? Plus no doctor gave a shit about me while I had covid or Health practitioner even called me! Was told to take flu and cold meds but didn’t have the flu??? So we are told. So don’t tell me gov’t or health care cared for me at all.
Most of your blog comments make no sense. I will continue reading just to see how crazy Canada is.

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Just wait for the insurance underwriters to catch up a bit.

ok last post on this blog.

#308 Not Fooled on 07.30.21 at 12:29 pm

#288 George S on 07.30.21 at 10:46 am
Most, if not all, people that aren’t involved in scientific research that are doing their “research” about any scientific topic online don’t realize that most reputable journals have a paywall that prevents them from seeing the published and peer reviewed papers and what they are seeing…

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Excellent post. Not mentioned is the creeping ideological capture of academia. Research not compatible with ideologic goals is frequently denied funding or peer review. We now have reputable med schools denying the existence of biologic differences between men and women, for fear of wounding the gender confused.

Skepticism is healthy but don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

#309 Not Fooled on 07.30.21 at 12:52 pm

I will offer my opinion and experience of vaccine hesitance, fwiw.

Used to work in Public Health vaccine clinic. You know who rejects or fears vaccines? Privileged middle class white people. 1st Nations and immigrants from less developed countries can’t believe their good fortune at being offered free protection from preventable illnesses that have killed people in their lifetimes.

Vaccines are why we need Garth’s sage financial advice. Vaccines are one of, if not THE, most significant contributors to our increasing lifespan.

#310 Non critical thinking on 07.30.21 at 12:54 pm

1) “I shouldn’t have to pay for non vaccinated people’s healthcare”

–> now do smoking, alcohol and obesity

2) “Smoking and alcohol don’t infect me”

–> Neither does Covid if you are vaccinated

3) “But the vaccine doesn’t work very well or there are super at risk people who for some un-named reason can’t take the vaccine”

–> people who don’t trust the vaccine should stay in isolation if they believe even vaccinated people can get and pass the virus and the ‘super-at risk’ are probably better off in strict isolation until the pandemic is over

4) “But it is this unvaccinated that are driving cases through the roof that are the problem!”

–> Then they will get the virus and gain immunity whether they like it or not. Quickly and in large numbers if what you say is the truth. In the UK this might be the case, as overall cases have already peaked and are on a steep decline. And death rates are at the lowest point since the beginning of the pandemic almost everywhere.

5) “But we should force vaccinations so we can all feel safe”

–>Please refer back to your skepticism about vaccine efficacy in point 3

6) “But I shouldn’t have to pay…”

–>sigh, so much for critical thinking.

Reality: The Delta variant will spread far faster than any bureaucracy trying to force vaccinations on people who don’t want them.

Instead of setting an incredibly dangerous precedent of forced medical procedures, just let mother nature take its course.

And for god’s sake, stop listening to the boob tube and go look at the death rates in the UK during the Delta variant surge.

#311 Dragonfly 58 on 07.30.21 at 12:58 pm

The biggest division facing Canada is income and longer term wealth.
The majority of under 40’s are in a real spot. Ever increasing costs on virtually everything but a very stagnant income reality.
Even being a couple of decades older has only meant my Wife { soon to retire }an myself { retired a couple of years ago } while having a paid for house still face a very lean retirement.
Two reasonably well educated people, both in quite demanding careers. But a steadily loosing situation on income vs cost of living. Substantial School debt, paid down with vigor, then a slightly better than entry level house , but old and maintenance intensive, once again paid down as fast as we could, ” only ” 18 years of pinching pennies. And then a Son, 21 at the moment , don’t regret adding him to the mix for a minute , but still a big addition to household costs.
All set against a work environment where the work got steadily more tech intensive, layers of Transport Canada mandated qualifications in my transport tech engineer position . And ever more intense workload in my wife’s health care position.
But wages steadily lost ground compared to cost of living. After many years of small 1% or 2% shortfalls annually it really adds up. Bills all get paid , but disposable income is miniscule.
If we are in a steadily shrinking situation just imagine the spot our Son and his generation are in. Housing / rent are the biggies, but really almost everything is tracking upwards except wages in any meaningful way.
Is it any wonder quite a few in the younger person demographic feel seriously left behind, disconnected from mainstream Canadian society. Inequity is at an all time high. Many if not most younger people are trying their hardest, I know my Son certainly is. But the deck is so stacked in Canada currently, and getting worse by the decade.

#312 Brock on 07.30.21 at 1:01 pm

These vaccines are not as benign as has been made out. I’m a healthy male under 45 and developed a blood clot after the Pfizer vax. The bloodwork showed D-Dimer out of whack and low platelets.. an unusual combination that they’re just now association with the vaccines. These experimental shots will cause serious issues down the road I have no doubt.

#313 LightAtEndTunnel on 07.30.21 at 1:12 pm

#36 CeeDeeCee on 07.29.21 at 3:51 pm

Covid has killed 612,000 Americans to date.

Smoking is responsible for killing 480,000 Americans – EVERY YEAR!

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm

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Deaths from one don’t negate the other and it would be great to reduce both numbers don’t you think?

The smokers could stop smoking and get a vaccine and it would help both metrics.

Your comparison is a bit of apples to oranges – smoking deaths are a gradual result of many years of exposure to the nasty by-products of smoking – not a 20 minute exposure to someone with a virus.

Additionally if there were no protective measures taken by the general population like distancing and mask wearing then obviously the #’s would be much higher for covid deaths.

If we knew who was susceptible to having a severe reaction to covid-19 and only vaccinating them – that would be the perfect situation.

Alas we don’t have that kind of knowledge, so form a shield wall with the vaccine and keep it OUT before it mutates and learns some new tricks.

I already have two doses (AZ + Pfizer), both of which produced very negligible side-effects. Being tired the next day, and having a sore arm for a few days was about it.

#314 the joy of steerage on 07.30.21 at 1:13 pm

#299 jim tow on 07.30.21 at 12:06 pm

@ The joy of steerage

“so yes an emergency. the risk/benefit is massively in favour of the vaccines… all of them…”

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risk/benefit is in the eye of the beholder…these “vaccines” have not been tested long term and there is no legal recourse if there are more problems than there already are down the road….go ahead, get the jab…fine by me…but don’t impose it on me.

Selfishness. Cowardice. Lack of civic duty. I am surprised to see so many people admit these things. – Garth
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how the hell to you think you get to long term except by well getting a vaccine … coward.

risk/benefit is a number…it isn’t some subjective speculation of a bunker dweller

way way more people benefit from a vaccine than are harmed by one……the benefit is overwhelmingly positive for the vast majority of people.. have there been past bad outcomes… including with current ones…. yup. but benefit overall vastly outweighs the risk…… it’s a number looked at by the approval boards……………vaccines including the new mRNA based ones rank as the greatest scientific and medical inventions of all time… millions of lives saved and disability prevented.

You are welcome not to take a vaccine… but don’t expect to fully participate in civic society since you can harm others

#315 SunShowers on 07.30.21 at 1:13 pm

France currently has about 62% of the total population with at least 1 dose.

The French government announced that restaurants, movie theaters, and bars would be only be open for vaccinated people. In the 3 days since, another ~5% of the TOTAL French population (not just the unvaccinated fraction) booked their vaccination appointments.

If physical death doesn’t scare these dullards, maybe social death will.

#316 DIVISION on 07.30.21 at 1:13 pm

#302 The joy of steerage

I don’t click any links about Covid that are twitter or Facebook – END OF STORY.

You want me to look at the published studies, link the studies. Why don’t you just do that instead of wanting me to click twitter links? I just won’t – end of story. Link the direct publishing journal link and I’ll review if you wish.

Right now, on early Friday afternoon we’re waiting for a CDC study that appears to conclude VACCINATED ARE BIGGER SPREADERS THAN NON-VACCINATED!

What a development this would be and a curve-ball in this story, right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/health/cdc-masks-vaccinated-transmission.html

As for efficacy of the vaccine, we can discuss that when we really have the data. At this time, the data is highly subject to interpretation. Most importantly, the makers of the vaccine have a giant pile of cash waiting for their studies that claim high efficacy. Of course politicians also want the silver bullet. But maybe Mother Nature has a different plan here. To be seen. Didn’t Pfizer just note a bump up to $33.5B in revenue thanks to vaccine?

Fact is, that it is unethical to challenge the vaccinated with the virus to get real precise efficacy data, so most of the data is quite open to margin of error. And the only place where they seem to have been challenged with the virus seriously recently after freshly being vaccinated is UK – where 40% of hospital admissions were 2x vaccinated – data confirmed by official sources. Yikes.

Now that the vaccinated appear to be the spreaders – what do we do? What now?

Most likely, repeat the experiment in other regions first. Perhaps that’s what the CDC paper on Friday will already confirm. After that?

Perhaps panic? Those of us who didn’t put all our eggs in the vaccine being the answer won’t have to..

#317 Cheese on 07.30.21 at 1:20 pm

Well said! Division will get us nowhere, but overcoming frustration of ignorance can be very hard.

Great post.

#318 Analogy Guy on 07.30.21 at 1:22 pm

#154 Brian on 07.29.21 at 7:32 pm
Love the blog, don’t read the comments. I’m afraid I missed that one.

I imagine of the co-operation of the London blackouts during WWII. How do you think that would go in today’s society? Many would refuse to turn out their lights because the government can’t tell them what to do! Others would not comply because they’re afraid of the dark. It wouldn’t end well.
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Best analogy yet.
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Much better analogy:

Anti-Churchill media and political opponents claim any word out of Churchill’s mouth is a lie, and they start a count of every ‘lie’. Churchill is prone to gross exaggerations and so every time he makes a statement such as ‘this is the best cigar I ever had!’ the media screams “Liar!!”

As a result, Churchill’s supporters stop paying attention to any actual lies Churchill says.

Churchill announces an emergency and closes borders to Germans as media and opponents label him as hysterical and a racist monster. Speaker goes to ‘Germantown’ in the city and says, ‘see we have nothing to fear from these nice people’.

Churchill announces a plan to speed up fortifications and prepare for war while his political opponent ‘Harris’ goes on TV to announce “I don’t trust anything that Churchill does, and I won’t be part of it!”

Churchill’s public safety spokesperson announce ‘turning lights off during bombings doesn’t really do much according to studies’ as Churchill looks on skeptically but knows he has to ‘trust the experts’.

The bombing starts and Churchill says we should not make this political, we need to come together, this is a war, but his opponents run a campaign saying the war is only because Churchill was racist towards Germans, and they really are our friends, and we should open our borders to all.

The bombs start to fall but Churchill has been voted out of office and his opponents say “we need to close the borders, the Germans are our enemies, and turning lights off work, trust us!”

The majority of Churchill supporters say “We already knew that you idiots, we’re way ahead of you”.

A few extremists say “We don’t trust anything you lying bastards say”

And that mistrust lasts for decades.

#319 LightAtEndTunnel on 07.30.21 at 1:25 pm

I just had an epiphany!

The solution to vaccine hesitancy is… (due to this being a financial site)

A one-time “C19 fully vaccinated tax credit” of $10,000
(similar to an RRSP contribution reduction)

which would produce a $5000 reduction for someone in the $50,000 range.

I’m guessing it would cost a lot less than having the economy shut down again..

If you were not sure about taking the vaccine would this motivate you to get 2 doses?

#320 Dmitry on 07.30.21 at 1:29 pm

Garth you are irreparably confused on this one. It’s fine, you are only human. Some times you are right. Other times not so much.

Oh, vaccines don’t save lives, reduce health care strain and facilitate the reopening of the economy? Good you straightened me out. – Garth

#321 Brunett43 on 07.30.21 at 1:47 pm

Welcome to the world of trolls. Known for having
The Dunning-Kruger effect, which is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence.
Garth, you have provided so much valuable finance information to a whole new generation. I’ve followed your advice for over 30yrs and continue to do so. Just ignore these rubes and don’t let them get to you. I’ve found that completely ignoring them is the best because they want to get into a debate with you.
Keep on and have a great weekend!

#322 Theo on 07.30.21 at 2:00 pm

#315 DIVISION on 07.30.21 at 1:13 pm
“Right now, on early Friday afternoon we’re waiting for a CDC study that appears to conclude VACCINATED ARE BIGGER SPREADERS THAN NON-VACCINATED!”

Having taken your advice I actually read the posting from the CDC not the NY Times or other headline grabbing click bait.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w

The CDC post doesn’t say that vaccinated are bigger spreaders than non-vaccinated as you contend.

What is says is that Delta COVID variant is very contagious and people who are vaccinated can carry it and spread it without knowing. What it also says is that if vaccinated if you catch Delta, or the earlier strains, you are less likely to end up really sick in the hospital or dying.

#323 Father’s Daughter on 07.30.21 at 2:05 pm

Honestly, we have it too good. Most people don’t even have access to the vaccine as we do. And if they get sick, sometimes the services won’t be there (ex. no oxygen available). Sometimes this is hard for Canadian borns to understand. We show up with whatever ailment that we have without being worried about the bill bankrupting us.

The people here trying to discredit and insult our health care professionals and scientists will be the ones showing up to the Emergency Department begging for their lives to be saved by the exact same professionals. This is already happening, but will be the majority. Embarrassing is an understatement. Suddenly, the experts will be ones to trust and you will be at their mercy. There will be no time to realize any shame, only the fear of the unknown course of the illness. You will then by slammed with many chemicals/treatments to your body, which is apparently extremely sacred. Good luck.
The fourth wave will be of the unvaxxed, and a few unfortunate people caught in the crossfire. People will literally be dying of stupidity. No regrets though right?
Probably won’t see much of my husband again this winter, as he will be dealing with this shit, but no worries, I’ll be busy trying to breathe some life back into my tourism business. Our favourite business in the area, which was previously thriving, announced they’re selling yesterday. Too many lockdowns.

#324 CTO on 07.30.21 at 2:07 pm

Garth
Can you do a blog on real estate again…
Many many years back this blog used to be primarily about real estate…and…
Some of are feeling a different order of conspiracy, more related to reality…
Many of us agreed with your logic back in the last decade or so, but still dove in on mortgages for primary residence like my wife and i did 10 years ago.
Some did not…
Since then, the mantra has been: “Houses and condos are the best investment ever, we have one, lets get some more”!
I , as well as many others on here have been very much opposed to this mantra for reasons constantly noted here, but, we have become the enemies of our own families from missing out on million dollar gains supported by our own government!
I strongly feel,… we are now the persecuted ones. We have been thrown under the bus by our government central banks that are hell bent on pushing debt to the stratosphere at all costs and with it, inflation.
It seems to me that the government has made the prudent responsible ones, the biggest loosers all around…

#325 CTO on 07.30.21 at 2:13 pm

Sorry for the rant Garth, but you need to ignore these vax people and get back financial therapy for us people who are waiting and waiting and waiting for the tide to change and reality to set in to this strange world run by Central Bankers and ultra liberal governments…

#326 KLNR on 07.30.21 at 2:20 pm

@#314 SunShowers on 07.30.21 at 1:13 pm
France currently has about 62% of the total population with at least 1 dose.

The French government announced that restaurants, movie theaters, and bars would be only be open for vaccinated people. In the 3 days since, another ~5% of the TOTAL French population (not just the unvaccinated fraction) booked their vaccination appointments.

If physical death doesn’t scare these dullards, maybe social death will.

BINGO. that should do the trick, unless you’re a full on prepper.

All countries will be implementing similar soon.

#327 Oakville Rocks! on 07.30.21 at 2:28 pm

#315 “Right now, on early Friday afternoon we’re waiting for a CDC study that appears to conclude VACCINATED ARE BIGGER SPREADERS THAN NON-VACCINATED!”

You have to be a special kind of stupid to write such a statement. Or perhaps your reading comprehension is inadequate.

Here are the relevant passages from the article from the NYT that you linked.:

“Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, the director of the agency (CDC), acknowledged on Tuesday that vaccinated people with so-called breakthrough infections of the Delta variant carry just as much virus in the nose and throat as unvaccinated people, and may spread it just as readily, if less often.”

So DIVISION, this paragraph means that vaccinated people carry as much virus (Delta variant) as non-vaccinated and are just as capable of spreading it as the non-vaccinated. How do you support your foolish statement that the vaccinated are bigger spreaders than the non-vaccinated? Your statement is only possible if all non-vaccinated stay homein a self enforced lockdown.

As such the CDC recommends everyone (vaccinated and non-vaccinated) keep wearing masks indoors.

“Still, the C.D.C.’s figures show that the vaccines are highly effective in preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death in vaccinated people, experts said.”

The facts are, the hospitalizations are still mostly comprised of the non-vaccinated and the vaccines are still your best chance of avoiding serious illness from COVID.

Or you could choose to stay home and never go out.

For me, the smart choice, fully vaccinate & keep wearing a mask when indoors (shopping, dining, enjoying life etc.)

And where are you getting this nonsense that 40% of hospital admissions in the UK are 2x vaccinated?

Here is a story from the Guardian that refutes that:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/25/seriously-ill-young-people-in-current-covid-admissions-expert-warns

The relevant paragraphs:
“The vast majority of those requiring intensive care are unvaccinated: some of them will die. It is heartbreaking for us as NHS staff to watch people suffer unnecessarily knowing that this almost certainly could have been prevented by the vaccine,” she said.

“We are seeing patients in their 30s, or even in their 20s, who are fit and have no other medical problems on ICUs [intensive care units]. As an ICU doctor I am begging you to have the vaccine. Please don’t let not having the jab become the biggest mistake of your life.”

Kind of refutes your other dumb statement that only those over 65 have to worry about COVID.

On days like this I really pity Garth. Too much stupid and deliberate misinformation to deal with.

#328 Alex McCumber on 07.30.21 at 2:29 pm

Hear, hear!

#329 NBE on 07.30.21 at 2:32 pm

100% agree with you Garth.

I wish the government had the messaging skills that you have. They have confused the masses.

As I have an infectious disease background I’m trying my best to get people to go get vaccinated. It is no simple task at this point.

What people are truly missing is that if we don’t hit herd immunity the Delta variant will again burden hospitals. When those same people that won’t get vaccinated need a hip replaced or a biopsy for cancer they will be screwed.

Not getting vaccinated is incredibly selfish as you have pointed out perfectly

Although I too would like to get back to the economy and real estate, I think it’s important that you write about the pandemic as it is directly related to our economy, finances, etc.

#330 batt519 on 07.30.21 at 2:37 pm

#321 FD

Your dramatics are over the top. Please.

#331 RWZM on 07.30.21 at 2:37 pm

Refusing the vax is clearly not the same thing as supporting the right to refuse it.

What’s gotten into you, man? You want to instill the government with the power to perform whatever procedures on you are good for society?

What next? Your blood would help save lives, and you won’t be harmed, so why not force people to donate until the quotas are met? Your kidney would benefit someone (and also you’re white and male and Boomer and “bad for society” according to the government) so why not send the docs to slice it out?

But getting taxed a few % for leaving your condo empty to “help society” in the eyes of government–somehow the population will come around to seeing that as a violation of human rights?

If you don’t even support bodily autonomy, the rest of your anti-statist principles cannot be taken seriously. It’s not difficult to see the implications. All totalitarian laws are based on this logic, and we’re moving to implement more of them every day.

In modern society you have no right to jeopardize the health of others by becoming a virus host or by burdending the health care system when there is a vaccine. You are selfish. Or you are a coward. Pick one and let us know. – Garth

#332 Rumpelstiltskin on 07.30.21 at 2:40 pm

so Garth…unvaccinated people are “panzies”?
That’s called an “ad hominem” argument. Look it up.

I’m surprised at you. Educated people usually examine both sides of an argument. (and the truth is, there’s very good arguments/research both for and against)

My advice for you is to stop ranting and start researching. aka Put on your big boy pants and avoid writing on topics you know very little about.

Bottom line: I appreciate your blog, but after this rant you get: RESPECT -1 due to:
-not doing your research
-mischaracterizing the “unvaccinated” and misrepresenting the common thread
(my observation is that 99.9% of “unvaccinated” people have willingly vaccinated for measles, polio, hep, etc. It also takes courage/energy/willpower/resources to choose the “road less travelled”; as opposed to vaccinated persons who characteristically take the convenient path, sway to social pressure, don’t do their research, and enjoy hearing the sound of their own voices to make themselves feel better about premature decisions they’ve made and knew little about)

Actually I said, “pansies.” Like you. – Garth

#333 The joy of science on 07.30.21 at 2:41 pm

#315 DIVISION on 07.30.21 at 1:13 pm

#302 The joy of steerage

I don’t click any links about Covid that are twitter or Facebook – END OF STORY.
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Yer just spewing paranoid nonsense.. enjoy yer bunker life.

#334 Sail Away on 07.30.21 at 2:43 pm

Well, ignoring this goofy talk about corvids and vacciniums, I am happy to report that blackberry season has begun on the island.

Now all dog walks include a picking bucket. A couple easy liters a day for the next 1 1/2 months will accumulate massive quantities of berries to see us through another hard winter.

I greatly enjoy the deep satisfaction from hunting and gathering. Almost feels instinctual.

#335 KLNR on 07.30.21 at 3:01 pm

@#322 CTO on 07.30.21 at 2:07 pm
Garth
Can you do a blog on real estate again…

nah, this is much more important and you clowns need to hear it.

#336 Rumpelstiltskin on 07.30.21 at 3:05 pm

#330

RESPECT -2

#337 VGRO and chill on 07.30.21 at 3:10 pm

They aren’t tracking you with a microchip in the vaccine.

They are tracking you through your phone/computer/browser you are reading this on.

#338 KLNR on 07.30.21 at 3:21 pm

@#335 VGRO and chill on 07.30.21 at 3:10 pm
They aren’t tracking you with a microchip in the vaccine.

They are tracking you through your phone/computer/browser you are reading this on.

now maybe they’ll bugger off.
blog will be better for it.

#339 salonist on 07.30.21 at 3:46 pm

the experimental drugs authorized for emergency use.
used fetal cells in testing and in some of these experimental drugs being injected
as a dad of an aborted son,no,never

box of muffins
all ingredients listed
the experimental drugs gve no ingredient list
mixing doses of experimental drugs
drug a,uses a slice of the virus creating antigens
drub b, uses a slice of a different section of the virus
creating a different set of antigens
mixing, testing and final implication and/or results are not here mixing a and b or c, d,

an experimental drug is optional in emergency use

#340 RyYYZ on 07.30.21 at 3:52 pm

#317 LightAtEndTunnel on 07.30.21 at 1:25 pm
I just had an epiphany!

The solution to vaccine hesitancy is… (due to this being a financial site)

A one-time “C19 fully vaccinated tax credit” of $10,000
(similar to an RRSP contribution reduction)
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Yeah, no. I have a problem with rewarding people for being unwilling to do what most sensible people have already done. Unless we all get it, too.

#341 Double Vax'd on 07.30.21 at 3:53 pm

Well said Mr. Turner. I will direct others to your blog so they may read your words!

#342 batt519 on 07.30.21 at 3:55 pm

#337 Salonist

Ingredients for the Pfizer(Chantix) shot are listed at this link below where it is stated that there are no vaccines for covid19 and the shot may be ineffective.
https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download?fbclid=IwAR24_tZwAVZ-wkeqGZ-MICzSTwVxguRuXBFp4nyvSxYgaHXPYrPq37eLsO0

#343 jim tow on 07.30.21 at 5:03 pm

@ The joy of steerage

how the hell to you think you get to long term except by well getting a vaccine … coward.

risk/benefit is a number…it isn’t some subjective speculation of a bunker dweller

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Both of your points above are acquired by a rigorous process called proper CLINICAL TRIALS. You obviously are completely uneducated in the usual process of bringing drugs to market. Not rushed out to the general population and imposed on them and then calling anyone who doesn’t want to be a guinea pig a coward.

#344 the joy of science on 07.30.21 at 5:07 pm

#337 salonist on 07.30.21 at 3:46 pm

the experimental drugs authorized for emergency use.
used fetal cells in testing and in some of these experimental drugs being injected
as a dad of an aborted son,no,never

box of muffins
all ingredients listed
the experimental drugs gve no ingredient list
mixing doses of experimental drugs
drug a,uses a slice of the virus creating antigens
drub b, uses a slice of a different section of the virus
creating a different set of antigens
mixing, testing and final implication and/or results are not here mixing a and b or c, d,

an experimental drug is optional in emergency use


Ok we have a winner for the dumbest anti-vaxer comment yet…. stunning display of scientific illiteracy and just plain paranoid drivel.

#345 Dmitry on 07.30.21 at 6:58 pm

Oh, vaccines don’t save lives, reduce health care strain and facilitate the reopening of the economy? Good you straightened me out. – Garth

Regarding “reopening of the economy”- you have to start by figuring out why economy is not “open” in the first place, before you worry what may or may not facilitate reopening. I don’t know what the real answer is, but it sure is not because of some virus.

Regarding health care strain- maybe they do. But vaccines are strain on health care resources themselves too. And nobody knows what strain shall be placed on healthcare in the future due to mass application of EUA product, let alone a product with never before used mechanism of action. You my friend are part of a phase three clinical trial, along with a few billion of your peers. And that clinical trial is being conducted with gross violation of clinical trial processes. Otherwise you would have been asked to report any side effects from your participation in this clinical trial. I don’t know why information is not being collected on these pharmaceutical products like it would be on any other product undergoing phase three trials, but whatever the true reason is, it sure would not fit into your narrative.

As for saving lives- that really is debatable. Personally I can honestly say that my life does not need any saving but my freedom sure does. And therein lies the root of your confusion- you place too much emphasis on one point of view while completely ignoring something else which other people value much more than you do. You clearly have no appreciation for your freedom as you have already surrendered it voluntarily and now you advocate that others ought to surrender their freedom as well because otherwise they are cowards. As I said, you are confused beyond repair on that one. And I am not taking about vaccines here- the whole thing is beyond reason, including travel restrictions, daily life restrictions, masking, double masking, etc.

#346 Boom Town Rat on 07.30.21 at 7:46 pm

#296 Chris L. on 07.30.21 at 11:51 am

No, smoking will not affect others, it’s not contagious. We aren’t talking about that. We are talking about denying health services based on choice to not take the vaccine…as smoking is a choice, and we still treat people who get cancer from smoking.

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Jesus, I can’t believe I have to dumb it down this far.

SMOKE….2nd hand SMOKE AFFECTS OTHERS.

That is why smoking is not permitted in so many places.

I am absolutely gob- smacked…to think that needs to be explained to you. So much so that I am almost certain you’re just trolling…coz nobody can be….

#347 Mudguy on 07.30.21 at 8:14 pm

I know many people not vaccinated and not one thinks microchips are in the vaccine or are scared of needles. My reason for not getting the Vaccine is that I already had COVID and have natural immunity. Any actual studies show natural immunity is pretty close to the Vaccine. Why take the small risk of the Vaccine if I already have the anti bodies?

#348 Doug in London on 08.01.21 at 10:33 am

@Mudguy, post #347:
Ask your doctor for advice about this question.