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So 68% of the herd is dosed in Canada, at least partially. Provinces are pushing for 75% (Ontario) or 85% (NS) within a few weeks. Reopening will be faster, wider and wilder than seemed possible even weeks ago. Covid will go from pandemic to just endemic. Like the flu. You won’t hear daily case counts anymore. You’ll get a yearly booster. People will still get sick. Outbreaks will occur. ICUs, vents and deaths will occasionally happen, but the health care system will cope.

This is what Mr. Market always forecast. After brief days of panic and confusion in the third month of last year, the trade has been about recovery. The advent of vaccines gave it rocket fuel. Government and CB spending provided the grease. Now we have the S&P ahead 12% so far in 2021 and 34% above year-ago levels. Even Bay Street has been cavorting, passing the 20,000 mark and 72% above its Covid-induced crash of last March. Check out Ryan’s weekend piece for hard news on what this did for bank stocks and ETF investors.

It’s not over. Not even close. The reopening, the vaxxing, the robust corporate profits and a coming surge in employment will likely propel financial markets higher. Commodity prices have benefitted (oil is near $70 again) and all that damage the virus did to the supply chain, plus spendy politicians, is helping goose prices and feed inflation.

Thus, it’s not hard to see where this is going.

First, inflation will soon give central bankers the willies and benchmark rates will rise. Not precipitously, but steadily. The prime rate at the chartered banks could double over the next few years, with the same happening to five-year mortgages. People buying and borrowing now have to make allowances for this happening when they renew.

Did you hear what US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen had to say about this? Biden’s big spending will help stoke inflation, she admitted. That will cause interest rates to rise, “and that is a good thing.” There ya go. It’s official.

Creeping rates will be but one more reason the parabolic real estate charts will flatten and eventually dip. No crash. Prices are not falling by half. Don’t expect or plan on that since the impact of the virus was just too profound over the last 12 months to be fully reversed. But combined with increasing supply, tighter lending regs, serious over-valuations and affordability at a crisis level, peak house is behind us.

Moreover the housing windfall in Armpit and Bunnypatch could soon turn into a rout. Suburban, hinterland and hick city values have just experienced the most irrational and profound inflation in national history. Here is where the real danger in home ownership lies for those pandemic buyers who sucked up big, cheap mortgages to gorge on personal space thinking they’d be able to WFH forevah.

Here’s a nice summary of the complex issues involved…

A Bloomberg poll found 39% of American adults would consider quitting if they’re forced back to the office by their evil overlords. That number rises to almost 50% for shiftless Millennials and Gen Z workers. Currently about 30% of workers in the US are back. In Canada almost five million people remain in their jammy bottoms giving the dog belly rubs with their pinkies while they Zoom with colleagues groomed from the waist up.

Of course, some employers will allow remote work. Some will let employees go hybrid, coming to the office a few days a week. Many will want the corporate culture, collaboration, mentoring, sharing, innovation and productivity (plus measuring) that only WFW allows. And workers with hustle plus career ambitions can’t wait to go back.

In New York realtors report the tide has turned, with more people flowing back into the urban core after fleeing to the burbs. “In the U.S, the biggest demand for housing over the last month has been Manhattan apartment buildings as companies have started to tell people to get ready to come back to work,” it’s reported.

Will places like DT Toronto repopulate as inoculations spread, the office towers slowly fill, the restaurants, bars, clubs and venues open again, immigration is restored, renters flood back into empty condos, uni students come back and as single-family homes have passed the ability of people to buy them? Of course. Lock it in. This is as irrefutable as the conviction markets had that the pandemic would end.

You want a nice, cheap house in Sudbury or Tillsonburg? Just wait.

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Well, we’ve officially devolved into that cancel culture discussed here last week. A loud, illegal, vandalizing throng of ruffians who think they know more than you toppled and wrecked a statue in the Toronto core last night. More proof the collective IQ of a group drops with the number of people joining it.

Applying today’s moral code and ethical compass to people who lived 180 years ago and wasting time trashing their markers seems beyond pointless. By the way Egerton Ryerson (the dude being decapitated in the picture below) founded Upper Canada’s school system, made education free (for the first time), diminished the role of religion in learning and founded institutions that would become the University of Toronto, the Royal Ontario Museum, the Ontario College of Art and the Agricultural College. Alas, his theories were also used by those who thought, mistakenly, that native kids would be better off being turned into white ones.

History teaches us. Erasing it is the real crime.

About the picture: “I just wanted to send a note to say thanks for the blog posts,” writes Alberta in North Vancouver. “My husband and I have been reading your blog for the last nine years. I have to say the cherry on top of the daily post is always the dog photo. Here is a picture of my special girl Belle on her 13th birthday. Belle is a gourmand who loves supervising in the kitchen.”

161 comments ↓

#1 Millennial 1%er on 06.07.21 at 2:53 pm

Waiting eagerly for the boonies to begin becoming sane again so I can finally fulfill my cottage dream

#2 S.Bby on 06.07.21 at 2:53 pm

One of the hooligans who vandalized that statue called it “a symbol of white supremacy” but I’ll bet he doesn’t even know who Egerton Ryerson was or what he really did.

#3 S.Bby on 06.07.21 at 2:57 pm

Speaking of free education, I had delivered into my postal mailbox today a survey from my MP Jagmeet Singh (NDP) who appears to be pushing for the elimination of student debt interest payments on federal loans and possibly the elimination of tuitions all together.

#4 No Left Turn on 06.07.21 at 3:05 pm

It’s time for a change. Who has the courage to get it started. All across western civ the absurdity has to stop. It must stop. Absurdity must be silenced now.

Keep right.

#5 ElGatoNerodeYVR on 06.07.21 at 3:06 pm

Happy Monday everyone.
There is an old adage about history and those that forget it. Could be just dumb people created by a non-challenging ,all pass education system with no critical thinking, could be part of a global conspiracy to erase all references to the past,whatever it turns out to be the fact is that we are seeing a repeat of the book burnings era pre WW2 and purging of intellectuals(critical thinkers) post WW2 ,ofcourse both done in the name of the people and equality and getting rid of the profiteers (the rich) or those against national interests. It is The Inquisition in a new form. Sad really.
On the positive side those those that can read the leaves will continue to invest, save , enjoy the fruits of their labour and legally start moving wealth in other areas of the world.
The trick is finding those safe harbours.

#6 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 3:06 pm

Ah yes.
The Woke crowd of University educated Social “Justice” Warriors……. showing their true compassion and willingness to hear the other point of view….with a sledgehammer.

Gad Saad’s book The Parasitic Mind becomes reality.

#7 Corona w/Lime on 06.07.21 at 3:09 pm

Not Wuhan Virus – but Covid 19.
Not Indian variant but Delta variant.

Variants are now alpha, beta, gamma, epsilon delta, kappa, eta.

Clear?

What we need to deal with this variant is Chuck Norris and Delta Force!

#8 TurnerNation on 06.07.21 at 3:10 pm

More on the potential reason behind the Economic Shutdowns. (Dollarama now is occupied territory):

https://twitter.com/JJ_McCullough/status/1401561791923036161?s=20
“My friend from Ontario showed me these pictures from his recent trip to the dollar store. You can buy Father’s Day cards, but all other cards are deemed NOT ESSENTIAL and have these condescending little signs on them. I’m sorry, but this seems absurd.”

— Someone said this – makes some sense?:

“Canada is the test pilot for the start of the 4th industrial revolution. Essentially forcing one to be connected to the internet is part of the reason why you can’t buy anything in stores. They are also eliminating countless cashier jobs with self check out ”

https://www.kawartha411.ca/2021/06/05/bobcaygeon-merchants-taking-a-stand-and-staying-open-for-outdoor-shopping-despite-threats-of-hefty-fines-from-bylaw-officers/
KAWARTHA LAKES-Bobcaygeon is open for business. some Business owners are taking a stand today and staying open for outdoor shopping despite threats of hefty fines from bylaw for owners and staff.
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What’s next in this post-national state? Twitter pushing this as ‘top tweets’ last evening. Yes that cold week in March 2020 was when we fell. The globalists seized power in that soft coup. We are an occupied nation

Trending in Canada
#CancelCanadaDay
1,991 Tweets

#9 theoryAndPractice on 06.07.21 at 3:10 pm

A day earlier :
…. Erasing it is the real crime. -GT

I totally agree with that!

#10 Cottage Cheese on 06.07.21 at 3:15 pm

#1 Millennial 1%er

Waiting eagerly for the boonies to begin becoming sane again so I can finally fulfill my cottage dream

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What’s your cottage dream?

Mine is with egg yolk and vanilla sugar on buttered rye bread.

Oh, you mean going to the same place weekend after weekend, month after month, year after year – because you’re obligated and because you own it?

Weather damage, break-ins, vandalism, cleaning, raking, mowing, trimming, gutter cleaning, beaver infestation, usually excessive amounts of exposed veneered wood?
Oh, forgot Garth’s favourite – dino-flies of he great north.

This is your dream?

If there is one thing that should absolutely be rented, it is a cottage. And never the same one twice!

And if you really want to have a good time you ensure your security deposit is not refunded.

oh…and STAY THE HELL AWAY, right friendly northern poster?

#11 Caledondave on 06.07.21 at 3:17 pm

I just rebooked and got my second Pfizer vaccine.

In the words of Johnny Rico from Starship Troopers…”A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, defending it with his life, a civilian does not.” – Johnny Rico while student

“A citizen has the courage to make the safety of the human race their personal responsibility.” – Johnny Rico after weeks of military service.

“Nowadays it would be that a citizen has the courage to get vaccinated to make the safety of the human race their personal responsibility.”- Caledondave after his second Pfizer Vaccine.

Do your part. Get vaccinated! Lets blast these bugs where they came from. Don’t be a Freerider! Be a good citizen.

#12 Franco on 06.07.21 at 3:19 pm

Second dose scheduled for tomorrow, I was originally scheduled for August 2. Things are moving very fast, let’s hope a variant does not sneak up that the vaccines cannot deal with.

#13 truefacts on 06.07.21 at 3:22 pm

Not disagreeing, but are you sure 68% have been vaccinated. I see under 62%???

https://www.google.com/search?q=canada+vaccine+tracker&rlz=1CAHKDC_enCA895&oq=canada+vaccine+tracker&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0i131i433j0i131i395i433j0i395j0i131i433j0j0i395j0i131i395i433j0l2.5400j1j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

#14 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 3:22 pm

@#3 S.Bby
“MP Jagmeet Singh (NDP) who appears to be pushing for the elimination of student debt interest payments on federal loans and possibly the elimination of tuitions all together.”

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He doesnt care because….
It’s not his money.

#15 Leftover on 06.07.21 at 3:23 pm

Some employers would be happy to let people WFH, if they could hire them at all. Seems that fear, CERB and overall contemplation of life has kept people away from work, in droves.

This has led to wage inflation:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/05/upshot/jobs-rising-wages.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

What was considered the “natural” unemployment rate, say 5%, could now be something more like 6% or 7%. Meanwhile, central bankers are still operating under the old standard and are feeding the beast with low rates and QE.

You wanna see inflation? Stick around.

#16 Woke up this morning... on 06.07.21 at 3:24 pm

Corporations enjoy the opex savings work from home is providing. Along with travel savings of in-persona meetings, flights, hotel, meals, cars, etc.

I’m hearing a repeated theme now that leaders have seen the dollar savings and bottom line impact – and that theme is “we don’t want to opex in this area return to anywhere above 50% past year”.

Intersting.

Now that virtual meetings have proven to be effective, profits continued, revenue flowed, all that mingling and costs associated with it…well…it’s not an expense that they want to see return.

#17 Brian Ripley on 06.07.21 at 3:24 pm

“…peak house is behind us. Garth”

I don’t know how many times I have thought this myself since 2004, so it’s easy to agree with you now that I have had so much practice.

My chart of the 6 biggest Canadian city single family detached prices is up with May data: http://www.chpc.biz/6-canadian-metros.html

It definitely looks toppy.

Included on the page is the same chart but excluding Vancouver and Toronto SFDs and including a plot of the summed prices of Vancouver + Calgary + Toronto condos which is 13% higher than a median priced Montreal SFD and a similar plot but ex-Calgary condos that is 40% higher than a median priced Montreal SFD. In FEB 2018 the metrics were 73% and 106% higher respectively!

Notably in March 2021, the residential sales absorption rates (total sales / total listings) hit 148% in Toronto and an awesome 193% in Ottawa; the May data show the absorption rate still on the boil but dropping to 98% in Toronto and 123% in Ottawa.

Price discovery is getting more difficult as emotional buying recedes:

“B.C. homeowner’s court challenge threatens to open ‘floodgates’ to assessment appeals (CBC June 6th)” https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/assessment-appeal-court-bias-1.6053731

#18 the jaguar on 06.07.21 at 3:25 pm

Belle poses as though she’ll soon be a cover girl on some dog magazine. Her expression says ” I’m even better than you think I am”. In any staring contest we’d all come out losers….

#19 Big Bucks on 06.07.21 at 3:33 pm

Think about all the little shops downtown and in the Path system—they won’t be recovering anytime soon.WFH in some form is here forever.After the initial spend on services we will enter into what’s known as the “double whammy.”

#20 BB on 06.07.21 at 3:34 pm

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#21 SquareHead on 06.07.21 at 3:35 pm

“Prices are not falling by half.”

Not by half, but by 20% to 25% will happen within the GTA and even moreso the further out you are.

#22 Komie Komrad on 06.07.21 at 3:36 pm

#11 Caledondave

Thanks for the CCCP flashback!

#23 ogdoad on 06.07.21 at 3:40 pm

Re the second part of the post:

We’re wannabees in this country. Instead of manning up, excepting our past, reflecting then moving on we break something. As if suppressed rage of our troubled past is resurfacing in a mob that, probably, cannot even begin to relate. But, they’re entitled to do so…so why not? Everyone else does. Pathetic, actually. No identity. And when I share this news with my foreign friends they will laugh…at Canada.

OAN – We sure do have pretty labels on our beer cans. Lol!!

Og

#24 Stan the Man on 06.07.21 at 3:43 pm

Great Blog Garth, but no crash! What is considered a crash, prices in some areas could fall by 40% and still look expensive. That is the worst possible outcome for a lot of young people looking to buy, slowly raising rates and leveling off of prices, how does this help someone. You have houses in Barrie going for 1 mill, townhouses in Pickering for 1.2. Keep up the good work, for a lot of young folks hope you are wrong on this prediction.

#25 Doug t on 06.07.21 at 3:48 pm

People are ANGRY everywhere these days – I don’t know if it’s hopelessness, guilt, sense of futility or a lack of control over their own lives – people want to smash things, verbally accost one another and blame blame blame –

#26 TurnerNation on 06.07.21 at 3:49 pm

Big pop on the US Biotech ETF, XBI.US
Ohh we have a Delta variant! The goalposts were moved again. Thankfully the Pharma companies are steps ahead:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/delta-variant-heightens-urgency-for-second-doses-to-stop-spread-scientists-say-1.5457500
“It raises the possibility of the need for more rapid delivery of a second shot, or even possibly a booster shot in the coming months.”

—-3rd shot…incoming:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/this-ominous-warning-from-moderna-could-shake-up-the-covid-vaccine-market/ar-AAKD1ah
Moderna chief scientific officer Melissa Moore stated, “As the virus spreads, it is rapidly mutating.” She added, “Some of these new viral strains appear to be even more transmissible than the original strain.”
Vaccine market implications
What does all of this mean for Americans and for the COVID-19 vaccine market? The bottom line is that booster shots and new vaccines targeting the variants will likely be needed.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-s-covid-19-vaccine-could-reap-36b-2021-sales-analysts-predict
Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla has flagged the likely need for vaccine boosters as the pandemic continues to evolve. On a recent conference call with analysts, he said that “basically all governments of the world are now discussing with us about procurement agreements” for 2022, 2023 and 2024. In fact, Europe just signed a massive agreement for up to 1.8 billion doses from Pfizer and BioNTech through 2023.
Patients are “likely” to need a third dose of Pfizer and BioNTech’s shot once the period of initial protection wanes, CEO Albert Bourla said in a recent interview with CVS Health Live.

So who is making the $$$ from these tests:

https://canucklaw.ca/cv-37i-tri-city-news-pulls-article-where-bonnie-henry-admits-false-positives-could-overwhelm-system/
B.C.’s provincial health officer has warned businesses against independent testing of asymptomatic employees for the COVID-19 virus.
“At this time, it is recommendation that only people with symptoms or people otherwise identified by a health professional should be tested for COVID-19,” Dr. Bonnie Henry said in a June 17 letter to the province’s business community.

#27 Upenuff on 06.07.21 at 3:58 pm

About the picture: “I just wanted to send a note to say thanks for the blog posts,” writes Alberta in North Vancouver.
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Your dog must be very proud of his home. I noticed more than a few good bottles of Le Vieux Pin on the wine rack!

#28 Shirl Clarts on 06.07.21 at 4:00 pm

I really don’t agree with mixing and matching the covid vaccine.

Each vaccine was developed with a 2 dose strategy, with the second shot being the booster.

The government failed to plan for getting the same second dose into your arm, but all of a sudden, it’s ok to get a different shot? Convenient for them, not for you.

Getting a second shot of a different vaccine is just another first dose!. It’s like drinking a glass of Orange Juice, and asking for a refill and getting milk. It’s not a booster.

#29 The Awakened One on 06.07.21 at 4:01 pm

Drastic, illegal vandalism with sledge hammers shall NOT bring about progression and civilization.

Discussion, reconciliation, acknowledgement, thoughtful actions might, in time. For things take time, to heal.

People of Japan know this best: things take time to heal, to normalize, and to thrive. After 2 atomic bombs.

To forgive one’s enemy, moving forward with compassion is the best ‘revenge’.

History however poignant allows us to learn from our past missteps. Erasing it with violence and hatred only perpetuates negative sentiments.

Those erase historical markers of mistakes and wrongful deeds in others unknowingly set themselves to be on higher pedestals of moral perfection. And they need a mirror: Alas, for all human beings are fallible.

Okay, now I need a high protein treat and belly rubs… before ascending to higher Doggie Nirvana Heavens.

#30 Next Phase on 06.07.21 at 4:02 pm

Looks like the next phase of price increases will resume despite the mid-April calls for the top of the market!

A flood of new demand will be unleashed on the markets just when things anecdotally start cooling. That is always the way since this market is bulletproof and back stopped by the federal government now and in the foreseeable future.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7881183/canada-housing-boom-bust-immigration-home-prices/

While domestic capital solely created the 40% price increase this year, there is going to be an unprecedented flow of capital once the border restrictions are lifted. This years increases will look like nothing, as demand is about to be amplified.

Still waiting for that CMHC prediction of a 16% drop in prices, or the 8 million Canadians on CERB to give up their homes with the forecasted recession. Even the revised inflation forecasts will do nothing to put a dent in the market because by the time people renew, their payments will be the same after five years of paying off the mortgage with the rate increases (do the math people).

Watch Yellen backtrack her comments again tomorrow just as she did a month ago when the official narrative of low interest rates for years just got lampooned. This has become utterly predictable.

#31 The West on 06.07.21 at 4:07 pm

“History teaches us. Erasing it is the real crime.”

:)

#32 Ken on 06.07.21 at 4:07 pm

Hey Belle, Pick me out a nice Shiraz. I’m BBQing NY strips tonight! Go Jets Go!

#33 Don Guillermo on 06.07.21 at 4:12 pm

#28 Shirl Clarts on 06.07.21 at 4:00 pm
I really don’t agree with mixing and matching the covid vaccine.

Each vaccine was developed with a 2 dose strategy, with the second shot being the booster.

The government failed to plan for getting the same second dose into your arm, but all of a sudden, it’s ok to get a different shot? Convenient for them, not for you.

Getting a second shot of a different vaccine is just another first dose!. It’s like drinking a glass of Orange Juice, and asking for a refill and getting milk. It’s not a booster
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Many international studies say you’re wrong.

#34 Next Phase on 06.07.21 at 4:12 pm

The hinterland will remain intact as there has been massive migration from the core to the stix and burbs, with the majority of people securing their WFH first.

People fleeing the GTA and Metro Vancouver have hit every corner of Canada, jacking up prices far in excess of local incomes. Just as local incomes were disconnected from Vancouver prices for almost 20 years, and there were no price decreases, the same will phenomenon will occur in the stix. The supply of homes is so tiny to begin with, and all the locals just had their equity positions increase 40%, that local markets now operate independent of first time local buyers.

With the forthcoming influx of new immigrants, international students, and foreign capital, demand will remain strong in the core and continue to support the trend of those fleeing the core to the more ‘affordadble’ hinterland.

Sorry folks, the divide between owners and renters in every corner of Canada has been cemented and it is only going to get worse.

Another casualty of the pandemic, and an unforeseen one by everyone except realtors.

#35 Tudval on 06.07.21 at 4:16 pm

I cannot help but get a chuckle knowing those snotty vandals will never accomplish anything in life. Probably the highlight of their existence will be taking selfies while decapitating statues of historical figures. Thy will probably even fail to match the accomplishments of the legendary high-school football player, Al Bundy.

#36 Ballingsford on 06.07.21 at 4:19 pm

Belle looks just like my boy, only Belle is 11.5 yrs older and has more white hairs. Yes, they are great gourmands and kitchen supervisors and will then watch you eat to make sure you enjoy every bite.

That’s what they do. Some people think they are begging.

#37 Barb on 06.07.21 at 4:20 pm

Magnificent Belle is guarding the two most important appliances in the kitchen. Attagirl!

#38 truefacts on 06.07.21 at 4:22 pm

Isn’t there a 5-person limit on outdoor gatherings?
The statue vandalism pic has more than 5…

How many Coivd tickets were given out?

Anyone?

#39 Dolce Vita on 06.07.21 at 4:27 pm

Rates:
Maybe interest rates will cool the market. Less Gov meddling instead. Let prices rise. When too high few buy. Then they fall. People buy again. Leave RE alone.

Rates will have to be bone crushing Garth for the market to stall. Recall 21.5% early 80’s. Rates have never really cooled RE since then. Not even recessions, stalled it a bit and that’s about all – not even a pandemic.

Canada obsessed with its Precious, plain and simple. But, if Cdns want to use RE as an asset for retirement cash flow, then it should be taxed.

No more Free Rides. Market investors get taxed. So should those that invest in RE.

Quid pro Quo.
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WFH:
Talk with hands on heart, vote with hands on wallet. They’ll come back to the workplace. Sure enough.

Everybody talks tough until the bills start coming in and the larder empties.
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Cancel Culture:
Well said especially on the IQ, mentality. How stupid are these people?

Very.

Rome canceled Carthage off the face of the map (for the glory of the empire). It’s not there anymore. Just a few burnt bricks is all that’s left. Still remembered in history. +2000 years.

N. America has gone Fahrenheit 451 nuts. 180 degrees from civility. Zero common sense.

#40 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 4:29 pm

…A loud, illegal, vandalizing throng of ruffians who think they know more than you toppled and wrecked a statue in the Toronto core last night.

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Garth – why police did nothing? Why police allowed to do this and nobody was arrested immediately? Do we still have working law? I see we copied USA behavior – when the police let do the same last year during election. Canada NOT USA! The whole world laughs at us. And we teaching other countries democracy creating chaos here.

#41 conscription is a start on 06.07.21 at 4:33 pm

yup read a statement from one of the statue desecrating woke crowd…’it was JUST vandalism, should have been done earlier’…pray for our future…

#42 Andrewski on 06.07.21 at 4:40 pm

Another work option?

https://www.bcbusiness.ca/Work-from-home-Or-back-to-the-office-This-BC-tech-firm-has-a-post-pandemic-fix

#43 Dolce Vita on 06.07.21 at 4:48 pm

Why am I still wearing a mask?

My Region of FVG in Italia has over 60 communi with no Covid-19 incl. spawn. White on the map = 0, Covid Free, incl. mine:

https://covid19map.protezionecivile.fvg.it/

The rest of the communi have infection rates at a test rate of 0.15% on average or 99.85% Covid Free.

Day after tomorrow, going to Venezia for a passeggiata. The Region of Veneto has finally passed into Zona Bianca like FVG has been for some time now.

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…Whilst there, I’ll assert prevailing Cdn values and TEAR A STATUE DOWN in VENEZIA if I find one I don’t like or whose history I do not agree with.

I think I’ll start with Giacomo Casanova in Campo San Bartolomeo…

#44 rknusa on 06.07.21 at 4:52 pm

a boy and his dog

https://tinyurl.com/54rw8c6f

#45 Stone on 06.07.21 at 4:58 pm

#14 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 3:22 pm
@#3 S.Bby
“MP Jagmeet Singh (NDP) who appears to be pushing for the elimination of student debt interest payments on federal loans and possibly the elimination of tuitions all together.”

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He doesnt care because….
It’s not his money.

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I’d like to start a petition that we seize all of Jag’s personal assets, as well as those of all his family, and…apply it towards student debt.

Would anyone like to sign? Jag, you can be the first one on the signature list.

#46 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 5:03 pm

@#41 Conscription
“yup read a statement from one of the statue desecrating woke crowd…’it was JUST vandalism, should have been done earlier’…”

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One wonders when these ‘Kidults” will decide that the entire “University Educational Complex” is a Capitalist tool to keep them down and indebted.
“Smash the schools and burn the books” has a nice anarchist ring to it doesnt it?

#47 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 5:03 pm

Just read:
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/school-task-force-on-egerton-ryerson-legacy-won-t-speed-up-report-despite-protests-1.5458620

and SHOKED!!!!

….In a letter, co-signed by 17 professors, the group called on the university to address concerns the Indigenous community and students had expressed for decades about Ryerson’s legacy.

Indigenous students in an open letter last month called on their peers, faculty and alumni to stop using the name “Ryerson” in email signatures, correspondence and on resumes to send a message, instead calling the school “X University.”

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1. WHAT THOSE 17 DID for CANADA compare with what did Egerton Ryerson – founded Upper Canada’s school system, made education free (for the first time), diminished the role of religion in learning and founded institutions that would become the University of Toronto, the Royal Ontario Museum, the Ontario College of Art and the Agricultural College.
2. If they don’t like Egerton Ryerson why they still working for decades for this university instead move somewhere else?
3. Do everybody understand what does it mean name of university and rating linked with this name around the world and what happens after changing to “X University” ?
4. Who will send they kids to those university for learning after all of that?

#48 Faron on 06.07.21 at 5:04 pm

I’ve learned everything I now know about Ryerson (good — much — and bad) in the last week (I was educated in the US). Prior, his statue stood idly by and was likely ignored by everyone teaching nothing of our past.

As you all know, I prefer addition over removal. But the anti-Ryerson statue crowd have already done more to inspire understanding of Ryerson than the static statue had done over decades. History is not taught by statues, it’s taught through the telling of it. If it’s important to you, teach it. Don’t just erect a memorial and take a tax deduction. No history was erased last weekend suggesting otherwise is ludicrous. History was brought to the forefront to the benefit of all.

You cannot excuse this behaviour, or you must also applaud the woke German students who burned books viewed as being subversive to their passionate ideology. Nazism. Get off this slope, kid. It only goes down. – Garth

#49 Squire on 06.07.21 at 5:04 pm

Great post Garth.

#25 Doug t on 06.07.21 at 3:48 pm
People are ANGRY everywhere these days – I don’t know if it’s hopelessness, guilt, sense of futility or a lack of control over their own lives – people want to smash things, verbally accost one another and blame blame blame –
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People have too much woke time on their hands and too much drunken government money.
Just read up on the Bolshevik revolution to find out how that ended. While you’re at it, read up on Nazism. We all know how that ended.
I’ve lost faith with in Canadians 40 and under. Most don’t know much about history.
The dead from WW2 would roll in their graves if they saw what’s going on today.

#50 Mathematics on 06.07.21 at 5:05 pm

#21 SquareHead
“Prices are not falling by half.”

Not by half, but by 20% to 25% will happen within the GTA and even moreso the further out you are.

—–

30% growth is needed to turn $1M to $1.3M

23% drop is needed to turn $1.3M to $1M

Mathemagic!

#51 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 5:23 pm

#36 Ballingsford on 06.07.21 at 4:19 pm

Belle looks just like my boy

——-

Jojo the dog faced boy?

#52 Shortymac on 06.07.21 at 5:27 pm

I got an call today out of the blue from an old realtor who helped us find our current rental in 2017.

She was definitely fishing for new clients, I had to cut her off as I was in a meeting still, but promised to call her back later.

Maybe this is a sign that the market is starting to slow down, if a realtor is starting to look through her old client list for fresh blood as the buyer pool is drying up.

#53 Not just here on 06.07.21 at 5:41 pm

This cancelling of history has been spreading for a while. In Ghana in 2018 a stautue of Gandhi was pulled down due to his veiws on Indians being superior to blacks. As Gandhi, despite all his positive contributions, is seen as having problematic views on race and sex he is being targeted. This unfortunately will continue until society can better contextualize history.

#54 Ballingsford on 06.07.21 at 5:44 pm

#51 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 5:23 pm
#36 Ballingsford on 06.07.21 at 4:19 pm

Belle looks just like my boy

——-

Jojo the dog faced boy?

******
Yah, stays home most of the time since the pandemic closed the circus.

#55 Faron on 06.07.21 at 5:48 pm

You cannot excuse this behaviour, or you must also applaud the woke German students who burned books viewed as being subversive to their passionate ideology. Nazism. Get off this slope, kid. It only goes down. – Garth

That’s hyperbolic and shrill to the point of absurdity. Nazi’s sought genocide. The protesters here are seeking to increase awareness of a cultural genocide that took place in Canada for more than 100years. Yes, the term is correct. C.F. uighurs in China undergoing identical practices right now. If you were alive, would you complain if a Xi statue is removed some time 100yrs from now especially if his was the only story being told about that occurrence?

The obvious point: attempts to erase history are always done for the right reason (according to the zealots, and the brainwashed idiots doing it). Slippery slope. Get off. – Garth

#56 Egerton Ryerson on 06.07.21 at 5:49 pm

For my next project, I will be creating a Residential School for Deplorables.

All of you in the steerage section here will be invited. Whether you want to attend or not.

#57 Smartalox on 06.07.21 at 5:54 pm

@No Left Turn (#4),

That’s it, you ‘keep right’.
Stay in your lane, and stay out of the way of progressives that will pass you by without so much as a second thought. If you can’t deal with the traffic on the highway, perhaps you should pull over somewhere, before you get hurt.

You may think you can change the flow of traffic (or cowardly ask for someone else to ‘get it started for you) but I wouldn’t advise it.

There’s a lot more traffic in the left lane, than the right.

#58 Aftred on 06.07.21 at 5:57 pm

The only thing these woke protesters want is a big fat cheque or a cushy do-nothing job in academia or the not-for-profit sector spreading ‘awareness’ for 80K a year.

#59 Justice Done on 06.07.21 at 6:03 pm

The U.S.Justice Department has recovered the majority of a multimillion-dollar ransom payment to hackers after a cyberattack that caused the operator of the nation’s largest fuel pipeline to halt its operations last month.
Maybe we could ask them to help recover the Air Canada Executive bonuses paid recently as well. Both were criminal activity.

#60 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 6:13 pm

#55 Faron:
…. The protesters here are seeking to increase awareness of a cultural genocide that took place in Canada for more than 100years.

****************

What do you mean ? Are you sure that Egerton Ryerson was involved in cultural genocide? Do you understand meaning cultural genocide?

This is cultural genocide which he did:

By the way Egerton Ryerson founded Upper Canada’s school system, made education free (for the first time), diminished the role of religion in learning and founded institutions that would become the University of Toronto, the Royal Ontario Museum, the Ontario College of Art and the Agricultural College.

Faron, is everything OK with you?

#61 Faron on 06.07.21 at 6:15 pm

The obvious point: attempts to erase history are always done for the right reason (according to the zealots, and the brainwashed idiots doing it). Slippery slope. Get off. – Garth

I advocate telling a fuller history, not erasing it. A statue depicting Ryerson as a noble father of Canada is not the full history. Tell the whole damn story, even the embarrassing and ignoble parts. Let the readers then decide. If you keep the wool over the eyes of the citizenry you get angry mobs pulling down statues when the truth becomes clear. In the US this means more Zinn and less grade-school historic-ish fantasy. In Canada it means incorporating truth and reconciliation into told tales. That’s the only way forward. I respect your position as someone who has served Canada and can see how this weekend’s actions are an affront to that service. Thank you for the forum.

#62 NOSTRADAMUS on 06.07.21 at 6:16 pm

Being # 1
Being # 1 entails not paying attention to your wife and kids , even your health and peace of mind. It’s always like Christmas, making to do lists and checking them twice. It’s continuous. The hardest thing about being # 1, is staying # 1. The only way to stay # 1 is to get rid of everything else in life. You have to be totally focused day and night on being # 1. It is the constant drip, drip, drip to nonexistence. Lack of ethics, morals, deceit, and so on are only objects in your rear view mirror. OLD PROVERB, ” He who rides a tiger, dare not dismount”. The analogy being, when you get off the tigers back, he will tear you to shreds. There is a strong possibility that a lot of Realtors will soon feel the tigers claws as their sales decline. You can call me a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.

#63 Damifino on 06.07.21 at 6:18 pm

#3 S.Bby

Re Free Tuition:

Jagmeet Singh is a man who does not believe one should get what they pay for.

#64 History on 06.07.21 at 6:26 pm

History is written by the victors.

It is important to remember this part.

It’s also important to remember that politicians tend to be ego maniacs and humans in general love to take credit for things they didn’t do.

Makes you wonder how much stock you should put into history you didn’t witness.

#65 Sydneysider on 06.07.21 at 6:31 pm

Ryerson University sounds familiar, but I had to look it up to find out where and what it is. It doesn’t offer science, so that explains my ignorance – and perhaps the behaviour of some of its staff and students.

#66 Michael in-north-york on 06.07.21 at 6:31 pm

#57 Smartalox on 06.07.21 at 5:54 pm
===

Enjoy your luck while you still can. Tides change, highways turn, lanes merge.

Today’s vandals will be prosecuted. They are young, modern people tend to live long lives, internet is very good at preserving the evidence.

#67 Neo on 06.07.21 at 6:34 pm

“Covid will go from pandemic to just endemic.”

Garth,

So “Stage 3” of this re-opening plan isn’t returning to 2019 endemic normal. When is your forecast for that because the government is pretty hush about that?…

#68 Kevin on 06.07.21 at 6:38 pm

Totally with you, Garth. It’s just nonsense what we’re seeing re: these social justice warriors. Not just nonsense, but scary as they want totalitarian thought only, instead of making it a teachable experience.


Applying today’s moral code and ethical compass to people who lived 180 years ago and wasting time trashing their markers seems beyond pointless. By the way Egerton Ryerson (the dude being decapitated in the picture below) founded Upper Canada’s school system, made education free (for the first time), diminished the role of religion in learning and founded institutions that would become the University of Toronto, the Royal Ontario Museum, the Ontario College of Art and the Agricultural College. Alas, his theories were also used by those who thought, mistakenly, that native kids would be better off being turned into white ones.

#69 Tron Light on 06.07.21 at 6:41 pm

BANNED

#70 Philio on 06.07.21 at 6:49 pm

You can’t erase history – this is a poor, straw dog argument. You CAN however decide as a society who to idolize, and who to celebrate. So it ain’t the white man with the cross anymore – big whoop. Getting upset over it shows your personal inclinations more than anything else.

#71 joe on 06.07.21 at 6:51 pm

A loud, illegal, vandalizing throng of ruffians who think they know more than you toppled and wrecked a statue in the Toronto core last night.

Where were the police…none in the picture..

#72 Don Guillermo on 06.07.21 at 6:53 pm

#63 Damifino on 06.07.21 at 6:18 pm
#3 S.Bby

Re Free Tuition:

Jagmeet Singh is a man who does not believe one should get what they pay for.
*************************************
Anecdotal but here we go. Many years ago I had a driver take me into Havana in an awesome old 50’s car. Don’t recall the exact model. He mentioned that he was a medical doctor. When I asked why he was driving for a living (I already knew the answer) he said with free education almost everyone has a degree and they become worthless. I’d heard this before from old Soviet Union, Yugoslavian and Czechoslovakian friends. Free isn’t usually the right answer.

#73 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 7:08 pm

@#48 Faron
” But the anti-Ryerson statue crowd have already done more to inspire understanding of Ryerson than the static statue had done over decades. History is not taught by statues, it’s taught through the telling of it. If it’s important to you, teach it. Don’t just erect a memorial and take a tax deduction. No history was erased last weekend suggesting otherwise is ludicrous. ”
++++

And now that there is no more statue of Ryerson his deeds and misdeeds will definitely be forgotton.

I would prefer the statues stay up and Plaques explain who they are and what they did, good and bad, and let the people decide.

Not a bunch of posturing no nothing students hoping for youtube infamy and leftist radicals with sledgehammers….

Perhaps when these self same “guardians of the (their?) truth ” decide the entire University system is an oppressive tool and burn it all…..then you’ll realize…

They’re just a mob

#74 oops on 06.07.21 at 7:11 pm

@ Faron

May be time to take a break. Start a Vlog and tell us where to find you.

#75 Polecat on 06.07.21 at 7:20 pm

Happy hour on the patio soon Ontario!

#76 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 7:22 pm

@#57 Smartalux
“There’s a lot more traffic in the left lane, than the right.”

++++

Well while all the sheeple may drive on the Left……
Unfortunately……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_akwHYMdbsM

#77 Yuus bin Haad on 06.07.21 at 7:23 pm

Reached for comment on green-lighting the Ryerson purge, Andrea responded, “Oops, sorry, … I didn’t realize it was Egerton, … I just needed the wall space outside of my office.”

#78 pPrasseur on 06.07.21 at 7:34 pm

“No crash. Prices are not falling by half.”

Thank god at least one guy can predict the future ;)

How could the center of the universe (Toronto) crash right?

#79 Tina Paneer on 06.07.21 at 7:49 pm

So we see a 5% prime rate in Canada in maybe 2 to3 years. It is still too low. We need to see at least an 8% to 9% prime rate in Canada for at least 2 years straight to take down real estate prices by a meaningful amount which in my opinion is a 35% drop in prices.

A $1 million house should be maximum $650,000 for example.

#80 Garth's Son Drake on 06.07.21 at 7:53 pm

Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff expects half or more of employees to work from home after the pandemic: ‘The past is gone’

Any comment on this Garth?

#81 Faron on 06.07.21 at 7:58 pm

#72 Don Guillermo on 06.07.21 at 6:53 pm

#63 Damifino on 06.07.21 at 6:18 pm
#3 S.Bby

Yeah, with all this free high school nowadays we have all these people running around with basic math, lit, science etc. What a waste.

#82 IHCTD9 on 06.07.21 at 8:12 pm

#57 Smartalox on 06.07.21 at 5:54 pm
@No Left Turn (#4),

That’s it, you ‘keep right’.
Stay in your lane, and stay out of the way of progressives that will pass you by without so much as a second thought. If you can’t deal with the traffic on the highway, perhaps you should pull over somewhere, before you get hurt.

You may think you can change the flow of traffic (or cowardly ask for someone else to ‘get it started for you) but I wouldn’t advise it.

There’s a lot more traffic in the left lane, than the right.
——- –

I agree, taking the nearest off ramp is the best thing normal folks living in Canada could do.

Myself, I’m more than half way around the ramp. I keep my tax remittances oh-so-low, and if Trudeau offers a freebie, I accept with a smile. If I need an expensive item, I buy it used (but like new) off the net – tax free. If I have to do an expensive project around the house, I just do it myself and buy the materials off the local Rez so I can pay zero sales tax. Thankfully, the Libs are scared to death of the folks living on FNR’s.

I don’t know any right lane drivers who are trying very hard to change the flow on the highway. We vote, then we go home to our homes that Trudeau pumped up 30% in less than 12 months by sitting there uh, watching it happen. Then we check our portfolios that the BOC is slapping with gains like a beaver on crack.

As far as I can tell, the righties are content to watch the left lane fill to capacity. I mean, it looks like the denser the traffic becomes, the richer we’re going to get, right? Sure, occasionally Trudeau will dress up like a goof, or try to teach us how climate change is sexist, but turning off the TV is easy and cheap. Combined, a bro and I have reaped near a quarter million between tax returns and handouts since 2015, any right-laner can get off the couch and twist a switch for that kinda cheddar homie.

Sometimes, I just shake my head at how things have turned out under Trudeau, but I am also glad that I am just enough on the “rich” side of Canadian society who are vastly increasing their wealth thanks to our current Progressive leadership. Conversely, being poor in Canada just keeps getting tougher the heavier the left lane traffic gets.

Who’s going to fill the potholes when the highway becomes undriveable? Don’t look at me, I’ll be on the overpass and down the road before the pile-up happens.

#83 Love_The_Cottage on 06.07.21 at 8:15 pm

#71 joe on 06.07.21 at 6:51 pm
A loud, illegal, vandalizing throng of ruffians who think they know more than you toppled and wrecked a statue in the Toronto core last night.

Where were the police…none in the picture..
_________
Garth’s characterization of the crowd is not credible. It was a peaceful demonstration, no one was hurt, no one was threatened, and a statue which the University was going to remove in the next few weeks was torn down. Probably saved them a few dollars.

https://www.cp24.com/news/egerton-ryerson-s-statue-brought-down-following-demonstration-1.5458599

Laws were broken. Vandalism occurred. Property destroyed. The statue was towed down public streets (illegal) and thrown in the harbour (sorry, fish). There is no justifying this. – Garth

#84 Erico19 on 06.07.21 at 8:20 pm

#63 Damifino on 06.07.21 at 6:18 pm
#3 S.Bby

Re Free Tuition:

Jagmeet Singh is a man who does not believe one should get what they pay for.
*************************************
Anecdotal but here we go. Many years ago I had a driver take me into Havana in an awesome old 50’s car. Don’t recall the exact model. He mentioned that he was a medical doctor. When I asked why he was driving for a living (I already knew the answer) he said with free education almost everyone has a degree and they become worthless. I’d heard this before from old Soviet Union, Yugoslavian and Czechoslovakian friends. Free isn’t usually the right answer.

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Have to disagree 100%. Being born and lived in a European communist country for 20 years I know a thing or two about higher education. From my class about 40 people (equivalent to a high school here) only handful would be accepted to a university. It is free but there are entry exams and it is extremely difficult to get it. Here in Canada about 50% of my class went to Uni. As long as you have decent GPA and money for tuition, you are in. It is more a business than a higher education. Majority of degrees are totally worthless and do not guarantee any employment upon graduation. Just look at people driving uber, work in construction or work in retail. They graduated and can’t find a job in their field.

Your Cuban driver makes more money driving than being a doctor, because government pays squat, same applies to teachers there. My father was a taxi driver and was making more money than my uncle who was an engineer employed by the state.

Also, to get some people here from cloud nine, I have to tell you that generally education in Europe is at much higher level. Math that was thought here in grade 11, I was being thought in grade 9 in Europe.

So free education doesn’t mean you can take part in it because it’s free. You have to have brains to begin with.

#85 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 8:22 pm

And in other news, also in Canada, also acting out a destructive ideology:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/world/story/canadian-family-killed-hit-and-run-targeted-muslim-police-1812119-2021-06-08

#86 Wrk.dover on 06.07.21 at 8:22 pm

something about pandemic over….

More Europe bound flights all at once out my Fundy facing window than I’ve seen in a year and a half.

Almost as many as I’ve seen in a year and a half in total actually.

#87 IHCTD9 on 06.07.21 at 8:26 pm

#62 NOSTRADAMUS on 06.07.21 at 6:16 pm

” He who rides a tiger, dare not dismount”.
——-

Holy mackerel, that is a good one!

Thanks!

#88 George S on 06.07.21 at 8:31 pm

#28 Shirl Clarts on 06.07.21 at 4:00 pm wrote:
“I really don’t agree with mixing and matching the covid vaccine.” etc, etc…..

You should realize that anything to do with science is ever changing. What is recommended initially for the treatment or prevention of something may be found to be made better and more effective by an alternate approach
once the data is in and analyzed.
So in other words, just because initially the best idea would be to get your second dose of the same vaccine as your first dose 3 weeks after your first dose it was found through careful analysis of the data by actual experts in vaccines and immunology and virology that a person’s immunity was improved for a longer term if the wait between shots was increased to a maximum of 4 months and that “mixing and matching” the second dose doesn’t affect immunity and may enhance it because you develop more antibodies to different areas of the virus.

Don’t be silly, listen to the actual experts.

#89 FriedEggs on 06.07.21 at 8:33 pm

‘Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered.

And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute.’ -1984

#90 IHCTD9 on 06.07.21 at 8:38 pm

#76 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 7:22 pm
@#57 Smartalux
“There’s a lot more traffic in the left lane, than the right.”

++++

Well while all the sheeple may drive on the Left……
Unfortunately……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_akwHYMdbsM

—— – —

That movie never gets old, one of my all time fav’s :)

#91 Love_The_Cottage on 06.07.21 at 8:40 pm

#85 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 8:22 pm
And in other news, also in Canada, also acting out a destructive ideology:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/world/story/canadian-family-killed-hit-and-run-targeted-muslim-police-1812119-2021-06-08

What does it say when the outrage here is over a statue and not 5 innocent lives?

#92 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 8:44 pm

@#81 Faron
“Yeah, with all this free high school nowadays we have all these people running around with basic math, lit, science etc.

What a waste.”

+++

And when every intellectual dullard with two feet and a heart beat has a degree?

What’s yours going to be worth ?

#93 Faron on 06.07.21 at 8:45 pm

#73 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 7:08 pm

@#48 Faron

I would prefer the statues stay up and Plaques explain who they are and what they did, good and bad, and let the people decide.

I agree with you. Describing the history as told by historians would reveal that the bulk of Ryerson’s contributions were positive. Some were much less so.

I can almost guarantee that the statue has been doing nothing more than giving parents a cozy feeling about the university when they visit in October after sending lil jack and jane there to drink themselves stupid and maybe learn a thing or two.

Descriptions of the “mob” are based on nothing and likely very wrong.

Hilariously, half of them will be voting conservative by the time they are my age. Just watch.

#94 No one on 06.07.21 at 8:46 pm

Reminds me of one of my favourite demotivaters that states ‘No one of us is as dumb as all of us’

#95 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 8:46 pm

@#87 IHCTD9
“Holy mackerel, that is a good one!”

+++
You’ll like this one even better religious mackerel guy….

“If you can tune a piano, can you tuna fish…?”

#96 Faron on 06.07.21 at 8:48 pm

#85 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 8:22 pm

Are you equating an act of murder with an act of vandalism? If so, it’s further evidence of your lack of regard for human life and is disgusting. If not, please excuse me.

#97 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 8:57 pm

@#90 IHCTD9
“That movie never gets old, one of my all time fav’s :)”

++++

Yep.
Steve Martin at his cerebral comedic best and John Candy at his peak.

The uncensored car rental scene with Steve Martin was my fave….

#98 IHCTD9 on 06.07.21 at 9:03 pm

#85 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 8:22 pm
And in other news, also in Canada, also acting out a destructive ideology:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/world/story/canadian-family-killed-hit-and-run-targeted-muslim-police-1812119-2021-06-08
—- —-

Unbelievable! Dude is only 20 years old. I can’t understand how such a young guy could descend to that depth. So destructive on so many fronts!

Thoughts and prayers to the families and friends.

#99 Nonplused on 06.07.21 at 9:06 pm

I was finally able to get in on Saturday with my wife and 15 year old son so now all members of our family have had the first dose. Only side effects any of us have had so far is slight muscle pains.

I remain skeptical that the vaccine really works, after all they never developed one for HIV or SARS or even the common cold, but hey. I figure maybe it works and everyone is being asked to do it so we’ll do our part. It’s sort of like wearing masks. Maybe they work, maybe they don’t, but we need to do what we can. Something like a pandemic does require a collective effort.

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Was Egerton Ryerson really responsible for the residential school fiasco? I think he was dead by then. Other people were acting on something he said. My knowledge is not extensive, but my understanding is that he thought all children should have the benefit of a “free” education. Circa the early 1900’s this was not easy to deliver on the reserves.

So I can see how the whole fiasco may have evolved. Starting from the premise that all children should receive a “free” education, well, “all” includes the natives. But how to deliver education to small numbers of children scattered across the landscape in remote areas? Ok, we’ll bring the kids to the school. And why not have nuns run it? What could go wrong? They are nuns! At that time nobody knew the shenanigans the Catholic church was up to. They weren’t just abusing natives, but at that time they were highly respected and many victims suffered in silence, not just natives.

I watch with horror what is going on with Scouts in the US and to some extent in Canada. Scouts seems like such a wholesome endeavor. But yet over the years there have been enough bad actors among the adults that the very institution is in bankruptcy and risks losing most of their camps and other properties to settle sexual assault claims. What were these adults thinking? Obviously they were predators, but still. Does this mean all references to Robert Baden-Powell should be destroyed. Does this mean the kid’s movie “Up” should be banned?

But I guess anger needs an outlet.

#100 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 9:22 pm

@#99 Nonplused

Very well said…

#101 Nonplused on 06.07.21 at 9:22 pm

#44 rknusa on 06.07.21 at 4:52 pm
a boy and his dog

https://tinyurl.com/54rw8c6f

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There is no point posting links that are behind a paywall. Anyone who is paying already saw it.

#102 I’m stupid on 06.07.21 at 9:24 pm

What we’ve learned during this pandemic…

1. Fraud is now acceptable (cerb benefits paid to those that didn’t qualify)

2. Welfare is socially acceptable (people refusing to work because cerb pays better)

3. Vigilantism is now legal (destroying property because you disagree with something)

4. Lying is acceptable to avoid law suits (AstraZeneca vaccine now available for second doses even though it was deemed unsafe for first dose. Not allowing second dose would be a breach of informed consent.

The list goes on and on. I’ve come to the conclusion we now live in a crony socialist society.

#103 IHCTD9 on 06.07.21 at 9:28 pm

#95 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 8:46 pm
@#87 IHCTD9
“Holy mackerel, that is a good one!”

+++
You’ll like this one even better religious mackerel guy….

“If you can tune a piano, can you tuna fish…?”
— ——

I trout that I could, but I may not give a crappie either.

#104 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 9:36 pm

Good think (and bad for Ryerson) is next.
Smart parents will not sent they kids to Ryerson from now.
Students community too politicized. Not normal.

Nobody want to pay for that. In such universities the level of education decreases b’s teachers wont to work in it. Who knows – may be after statue you will be next if one of 17 professors (or politicized students) will not like you for some reasons. Your career will be destroyed and better will be to find another place for work in advance. I’m thinking process changing work place among teachers started.

#105 Overheardyou on 06.07.21 at 9:37 pm

#61 Faron on 06.07.21 at 6:15 pm

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When do you propose the whole story be told? About every single leader/icon in history too?

It astounds me that there are those that would look for issues in the past rather than focus on now and the future.

Furthermore, I recall my last history class in Canada was in grade 8, not the right time to be teaching kids about the full life story of our founders. In any case, the odds of anyone successfully accomplishing those same atrocities are next to zero in modern Canada.

Also, I had no idea until today that Ryerson accomplished all those things.

#106 IHCTD9 on 06.07.21 at 9:40 pm

#97 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 8:57 pm
@#90 IHCTD9
“That movie never gets old, one of my all time fav’s :)”

++++

Yep.
Steve Martin at his cerebral comedic best and John Candy at his peak.

The uncensored car rental scene with Steve Martin was my fave….
— –

Mine too! The first time I heard that I about died laughing.

“I want a x car, right x now…”

The delivery on that one line was epic!

The lines themselves weren’t even all that funny for that scene, it was the “restrained rage” that made them gold.

All Steve Martin.

#107 Robert Ash on 06.07.21 at 9:41 pm

The Real Crime is the Voter Apathy, or Indifference, that permits, the leaders, we elect, to ignore this type of behavior… I guess the Pandemic, is the excuse, but it seems, logic, reason, common sense, have been absent in the last 5 years. I mean talk about a litany of low priority causes…I have a wish that someone will find a way to redirect this anger, and use that energy to help the Impoverished Kids, for example… Time wasted, smashing History could be used to help the SPCA, or Big Sisters, or anything else….Mustard Seed, Hope Mission, so much needs attention and a helping hand, and we have misguided Media and Leaders, giving us this mess…

#108 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 9:41 pm

#96 Faron on 06.07.21 at 8:48 pm
#85 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 8:22 pm

Are you equating an act of murder with an act of vandalism? If so, it’s further evidence of your lack of regard for human life and is disgusting. If not, please excuse me.

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Time to get back on the meds, pal.

#109 Faron on 06.07.21 at 9:43 pm

#92 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 8:44 pm

@#81 Faron
“Yeah, with all this free high school nowadays we have all these people running around with basic math, lit, science etc.

What a waste.”

+++

And when every intellectual dullard with two feet and a heart beat has a degree?

What’s yours going to be worth ?

Plenty. My PhD is backed by brains. The dullards will always dullard.

#110 Nonplused on 06.07.21 at 9:49 pm

#74 oops on 06.07.21 at 7:11 pm
@ Faron

May be time to take a break. Start a Vlog and tell us where to find you.

——————————–

Faron is at best my “frienemy”, but so far as I can tell your only contribution is to tell people to go away. If you go away you won’t have to read his or my or anyone else’s comments.

Personally I am glad Faron posted his thoughts. Not because I agree with them, but because it solicited a response from our wise leader. The old man is down the road, but that doesn’t help if you don’t walk there and ask of the things that trouble you.

#111 Terry on 06.07.21 at 10:04 pm

Ummmm…………you think it’s all going to go back to 2019 normal levels again? Lots of Hopium being sold in Garth’s posts lately…………..all I can tell you is…………..just wait until this winter………….it will be worse than the winter of 2020 and 2021. The shots wont work. They will make the problem worse. This virus will win no matter what the will of man is. Just wait for it………you’ll see.

#112 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 10:07 pm

Chinese leader Mao killed millions through cultural revolution. But he create China and among all did so many good things for country too. Chinese people respect him and not vandalize his monuments. What they saying – yes he did mistakes in past. This is part our history. That’s it. History is history as is. You cannot turn the minced meat in a meat grinder in the opposite direction.

#113 what bugs me on 06.07.21 at 10:14 pm

What bugs me about the Ryerson nonsense is that no small number of the people participating and applauding it think nothing of wearing hammer and sickle tee shirts while attending lectures where Mao, Marx and Stalin are celebrated.

Most of Hitler’s favourite philosophers are revered in ‘higher education’ institutions as well.

When do we ban the biggest mass murderers of the 20th century from being glorified by apologists in schools?

I think we know the answer.

#114 DON on 06.07.21 at 10:33 pm

#93 Faron on 06.07.21 at 8:45 pm
#73 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 7:08 pm

@#48 Faron

I would prefer the statues stay up and Plaques explain who they are and what they did, good and bad, and let the people decide.

I agree with you. Describing the history as told by historians would reveal that the bulk of Ryerson’s contributions were positive. Some were much less so.

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Tell the good and bad and leave the cement as a reminder so no one ever forgets the evils of our species. Admit our failures and committttt to do better.

#115 SI2K on 06.07.21 at 10:34 pm

Re: Ryerson, the same thing happened to Trajan, Constantine, the entirety of French cathedral architecture, and every English monastery. Nothing new under the sun.

#116 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 10:34 pm

Just read:

1. About 345 professors, including three associate deans, signed a letter saying that “now is the time to stop commemorating Ryerson.” It’s one of several petitions and letters making similar demands coming out of the university community; open letters have been written by the university’s staff, its Indigenous faculty and its Indigenous students.

and

2. Egerton Ryerson is considered one of the primary architects of Canada’s residential school system

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ryerson-profs-name-change-1.6056260

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1. I think they have wet himself out of fear.

2. And what? When he created residential school system did he ask to kill somebody in school? They can prove that? Why they blame on him?

In addition. 345 professors !!!!! Unbelievable!!! No one honest voices about true.

I was right about politicized environment in Ryerson. If my kids would be there I would transfer them in another school immediately.

#117 DON on 06.07.21 at 10:48 pm

#112 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 10:07 pm
Chinese leader Mao killed millions through cultural revolution. But he create China and among all did so many good things for country too. Chinese people respect him and not vandalize his monuments. What they saying – yes he did mistakes in past. This is part our history. That’s it. History is history as is. You cannot turn the minced meat in a meat grinder in the opposite direction.

***********

I get your point on Mao and the cutural revolution which was an umbrella for a civil war.

Now Stalin was a dic tator who sent people to the gulags and when paranoid even friends were sent off.

#118 DON on 06.07.21 at 10:55 pm

#100 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 9:22 pm
@#99 Nonplused

Very well said…

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Agreed…nicely put NP.

#119 Fortune500 on 06.07.21 at 11:07 pm

The number of people justifying the woke mobs actions here is terrifying. Garth is right it’s a slippery slope. The far left and the far right in this country need to be brought back in to the fold by the silent majority,moderate middle. Both are doing great harm to this country.

#120 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 11:29 pm

If no choice to change Ryerson university to “X University” (“XL university” would be better!) best time to do it is this Thursday, June 10.

Why? B’s this day will be partial solar eclipse – will begin around 4:45 a.m. and end at 6:37.

Do it in this day will be very symbolic!

Hurry up Ryerson!

Next opportunity will be April 30,2022

#121 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 11:32 pm

@#109 Faron
“My PhD is backed by brains. The dullards will always dullard.”

+++

Sadly…no.
The Dullards have begun to rule the universities.
Have you read Gad Saad’s book “The Parasitic Mind”?

I give Canada 10 years max the way the Woke , Social Warriors are going.
The Library’s will burn…. and then the Universities.

Hopefully the Trudeau govt will be but a memory and I will still be permitted to have a firearms permit to protect my…books.

#122 Don Guillermo on 06.08.21 at 12:02 am

#84 Erico19 on 06.07.21 at 8:20 pm
#63 Damifino on 06.07.21 at 6:18 pm
#3 S.Bby

Re Free Tuition:

Jagmeet Singh is a man who does not believe one should get what they pay for.
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Anecdotal but here we go. Many years ago I had a driver take me into Havana in an awesome old 50’s car. Don’t recall the exact model. He mentioned that he was a medical doctor. When I asked why he was driving for a living (I already knew the answer) he said with free education almost everyone has a degree and they become worthless. I’d heard this before from old Soviet Union, Yugoslavian and Czechoslovakian friends. Free isn’t usually the right answer.

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Have to disagree 100%. Being born and lived in a European communist country for 20 years I know a thing or two about higher education. From my class about 40 people (equivalent to a high school here) only handful would be accepted to a university. It is free but there are entry exams and it is extremely difficult to get it. Here in Canada about 50% of my class went to Uni. As long as you have decent GPA and money for tuition, you are in. It is more a business than a higher education. Majority of degrees are totally worthless and do not guarantee any employment upon graduation. Just look at people driving uber, work in construction or work in retail. They graduated and can’t find a job in their field.

Your Cuban driver makes more money driving than being a doctor, because government pays squat, same applies to teachers there. My father was a taxi driver and was making more money than my uncle who was an engineer employed by the state.

Also, to get some people here from cloud nine, I have to tell you that generally education in Europe is at much higher level. Math that was thought here in grade 11, I was being thought in grade 9 in Europe.

So free education doesn’t mean you can take part in it because it’s free. You have to have brains to begin with.
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Sorry Erico, I wasn’t implying that my friends or your father from Eastern Europe and other communist countries are not intelligent or educated. The one I know are some of the smartest, most educated people I’ve ever met. I acknowledge how high the education standards are. Your father’s situation is what I’m trying to explain. Your words are exactly the issue “My father was a taxi driver and was making more money than my uncle who was an engineer employed by the state.”

#123 Wackedbc on 06.08.21 at 1:28 am

13 years ago I moved to consulting and wfh. I have increased earnings every year and could not imagine going into an office. All of my cohorts around the globe feel the same. It’s here to stay for those that want it.

Glad to say the next suit I put on will be for my casket.

#124 Faron on 06.08.21 at 2:04 am

#108 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 9:41 pm

So you are equating the two. Duly noted. And doing so instead of first condemning the murders. Sure, it’s a troll, we get it, but at some point your trolls become indistinguishable from the person behind them.

#125 the Jaguar on 06.08.21 at 7:43 am

“Applying today’s moral code and ethical compass to people who lived 180 years ago and wasting time trashing their markers seems beyond pointless.” GT
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Exactly. These ‘statues’ are monuments erected and commissioned by ‘artists’ to remember important events or contributions. They come in all forms. Auschwitz-Birkenau is also a monument to the past. Those who don’t remember their history are at risk of repeating it.

While some of the people represented on todays monuments, like Ryerson or MacDonald may not have been perfect men, they represented their time and they got a ‘statue’ because of their contributions.

Collectively in Canada we have to own our history, and some of it isn’t very pleasant. Whether it’s residential schools or our treatment of other ethnicities, the past weighs heavy. It’s not ancient history. There are still plenty of survivors today to tell the tales. And it wasn’t one sole individual. It was ”us’ as a society. It’s been a painful process, but I think we are beginning to ‘own that’ and apologies have been made. They resonate because they are national public apologies made on behalf of the collective whole.

What isn’t cool, is what the photo above shows us.
An angry, violent mob destroying public property while others cheer on the idiot with the baseball bat. Everybody whipping out their cell phones to record the event. It’s beyond pathetic. It’s no different than the burning, looting, and other destruction that has accompanied the loss of hockey games in Vancouver and Montreal, the violent protests in the USA last summer that included lost lives and burning buildings, violence, intimidation, etc.

This is the playbook of the past. You can read all about it in the world’s history books.
Later , standing in the rubble, everyone asks ” How did we let this happen”? Complacency, societal rot, and not remembering your history.

#126 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.08.21 at 8:06 am

@#111 Tearry
“Ummmm…………you think it’s all going to go back to 2019 normal levels again? Lots of Hopium being sold in Garth’s posts lately…………..all I can tell you is…………..just wait until this winter………….it will be worse than the winter of 2020 and 2021.”

+++

And you’d be anti “hopum”?
Does it rain on you in Zoom calls ?

#127 Sara on 06.08.21 at 9:07 am

#121 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.07.21 at 11:32 pm
@#109 Faron
“My PhD is backed by brains. The dullards will always dullard.”

+++

Sadly…no.
The Dullards have begun to rule the universities.
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Faron, nevermind the Fartz. He’s just compensating for his lack of education. Only “Dullards” go to uni, don’t you know?

#128 Immigrant man on 06.08.21 at 9:08 am

I hope Garth does more of these “social” posts! Mainstream is completely devoid of any meaningful discussion. It’s either “victims of colonialism” or the r word. No in between. And that’s not right.

#129 Not-a-greaterfool on 06.08.21 at 9:19 am

History teaches us. Erasing it is the real crime.

Garth, you know better than this. Please do better, I know you can.

You know that statues aren’t history. Statues are glorifications to people, and their work and legacy, which is the real history.

The decision to create a statue to commemorate and glorify is its own history. That is the history of the statue. But not the history of Egerton Ryerson.

The tearing down of a statue is in itself its own history…a new history of the statue, and a deliberate decision to stop glorifying a person.

Egerton Ryerson’s history and contributions, both productive and destructive, are unchanged by the removal of this statue. His history is not erased.

I’m on the side of not having his statue up in the public square.

Historical figures who have a big fat red asterisk next to their name for having both constructive work, and cultural genocide, tied to their work history shouldn’t be celebrated. We’ll be fine with just remembering them. Reading about them. Learning about them.
This all goes fine without a statue.

In a democracy there is zero justification for trying to effect change through mob rule, vandalism and illegality. Stop defending the indefensible. Unless you liked January the 6th. – Garth

#130 Sail Away on 06.08.21 at 9:19 am

Today may be the day Blackberry reaches orbit. Just printing $.

#131 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 9:45 am

#124 Faron on 06.08.21 at 2:04 am
#108 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 9:41 pm

So you are equating the two. Duly noted.

—- ——

Seriously?

I think you’re starting to lose it. Time for a little reflection and period of jet-cooling. Several posters have been dropping you hints today, maybe it’s time to start giving your posts a quick sanity check before hitting submit?

#132 Jesse on 06.08.21 at 10:03 am

> Many will want the corporate culture, collaboration, mentoring, sharing, innovation and productivity (plus measuring) that only WFW allows. And workers with hustle plus career ambitions can’t wait to go back.
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I don’t know a single person that wants to go back to the ‘office’. Corporate culture, by nature, is toxic and passive aggressive…. why does Garth keep saying this? Has he ever worked in modern ‘Corporate America’? There is a reason ~40% of the people would quit their jobs (and take a pay cut) to avoid ever working in an office ever again.

#133 cramar on 06.08.21 at 10:05 am

As an alumnus of Ryerson myself, I am perplexed at the “cancel culture” mentality that has percolated from south of the border, and allowed to become respectable here. As mentioned, the collective mentality of mobs is at the level of a mushroom. What was not mentioned is the 300 Ryerson faculty who demand the name of Ryerson University be changed. Great idea. How about “Modern Dimwit University”?

It seems in this world, leaders are no better than the masses they wish to lead. Society goes from one ditch to another, from racist history to erasure. No leader seems to have the courage to stand up and claim the middle ground. To tell those in the right or left ditch that they are wrong. But that is human nature. The folly of cancel culture is routed long in the ancient past. Egyptian rulers defaced and tried to erase all mention of some former Pharaohs from history. Seems human nature has not changed in four thousand years. You cannot erase what has happened. You can only learn from it and become better people. History has to remain as a reminder that we can and must do better.

#134 VladTor on 06.08.21 at 10:09 am

#129 Not-a-greaterfool

…Egerton Ryerson’s history and contributions, both productive and destructive

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You probably know too much from Canada history. Educate me in manner how it was done by Garth in his message to us.

Can you give me details (full list) about his destructive contributions, please? And if it was, can you compare with list productive contributions point by point.

#135 Dharma Bum on 06.08.21 at 10:42 am

Hah! Kids today, I tell ya.

No respect.

And dumb as they come.

The few among them with brains will rule the roost like never before.

They think the past was cruel? They ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

#136 Faron on 06.08.21 at 10:50 am

#131 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 9:45 am
#124 Faron on 06.08.21 at 2:04 am
#108 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 9:41 pm

Seriously?

Yes, seriously. Murdering a family is murder, not destruction. SA has repeatedly demeaned or minimized death and dying. It could be forgiven as sloppiness yesterday if it wasn’t a common theme for him.

As for a break: whenever I express a point of view that opposes the group-think I get accused of mental instability or other forms of non-sequitor undermining. It’s part of a playbook as old as time and reflects poorly on the group TBH. I’m doing fine thanks.

“… posts”

They aren’t posts, they are comments and Garth has to read every damn one. Don’t forget that.

#137 Sail Away on 06.08.21 at 10:52 am

I support the police. I’d support them even more if they got off their hands and arrested these statue nimrods. Hopefully they are tracked and charged by photos.

Of course, with Brenda Lucki being ‘re-educated’ to reverse her statement last year, that’s unlikely. We need more police like Seattle’s police chief Carmen Best who disagreed with all the CHAZ/CHOP violence, then resigned on her terms when the woke council tried to reduce her benefits.

#138 Lisa Thompson on 06.08.21 at 10:53 am

The problem with many people today is there is no appreciation for anything they have and are only quick to blame others for their problems, personal decisions and circumstances. I am not rich and work 2 part-time jobs 54 hours a week and earned a modest $58,000 last year with I finally reached my goal for 2020 and saved my first $24,000 after working 1 year.

I don’t like real estate, too much upkeep and maintenance, hassles, insurance, taxes, bills etc. I like simple, straightforward things and at 20 years old living on my own and taking care of myself I can’t afford to lose money. I put $4,000 in a higher interest savings account and $20,000 in a 10 year 2.40% annual compound interest RRSP GIC.

I know there is a whole world of investing out there with much higher returns but for now I want to keep it simple and accumulate a decent amount over the next 10 years to start.

#139 TreacheryofMao on 06.08.21 at 11:03 am

#112 VladTor on 06.07.21 at 10:07 pm
Chinese leader Mao killed millions through cultural revolution. But he create China and among all did so many good things for country too. Chinese people respect him and not vandalize his monuments. What they saying – yes he did mistakes in past. This is part our history. That’s it. History is history as is. You cannot turn the minced meat in a meat grinder in the opposite direction.

“Chinese people respect him and not vandalize his monuments.”
-> kinda hard to vandalize monuments when you live in a country with a totalitarian government who will arrest anyone for protesting (just look at what’s happened to Hong Kong)

When people can’t even wear white on the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre without being arrested, it’s kinda hard to deface any monuments.

If you’ve never lived through the cultural revolution don’t make comments about countries you never lived in and know nothing about.

#140 Crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.08.21 at 11:13 am

I’m the itch that Sara cant resist…..
:)

#141 Dr V on 06.08.21 at 11:34 am

84 Erico

“Here in Canada about 50% of my class went to Uni. As long as you have decent GPA and money for tuition, you are in. It is more a business than a higher education. Majority of degrees are totally worthless and do not guarantee any employment upon graduation.”

Who you calling worthless?

Dr V
Phd in
Vampire studies

GMST 454 (google it !)

#142 NoName on 06.08.21 at 11:58 am

@ Dr proctologist

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/serbia/articles/serbia-birthplace-vampires/

Europe
Serbia
Serbia: The Birthplace of Vampires
Vampire Weekday Evening | © outcast104/ Flickr
Vampire Weekday Evening | © outcast104/ Flickr
Picture of John William Bills
John William Bills
31 January 2018
Ever wondered where vampires came from? The grave, obviously, but the history of the bloodsuckers must have begun somewhere, right? Your eyes need divert to the Balkans and Serbia, where the fanged felons first started terrorising poor local peasants in search of revenge and well, shoes. Read on, if you dare….

#143 VladTor on 06.08.21 at 12:17 pm

#139 TreacheryofMao

….When people can’t even wear white on the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre

*****

I know about this. You don’t know real history – not me.

It wasn’t peaceful demonstration. Protestors started to kill solders and burn out military cars and tanks. Chinese government was quiet until that and did nothing. They start action after violence started. Peaceful protestors not bringing Molotov cocktails.

Real history different from what you can see on CNN. Google it and you will see too many photos.

I’m again violence. If you want send message to government – send only message.

#144 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 12:39 pm

#141 Dr V on 06.08.21 at 11:34 am
84 Erico

“Here in Canada about 50% of my class went to Uni. As long as you have decent GPA and money for tuition, you are in. It is more a business than a higher education. Majority of degrees are totally worthless and do not guarantee any employment upon graduation.”

Who you calling worthless?

Dr V
Phd in
Vampire studies

GMST 454 (google it !)
——-

That’s insane.

I’d rather get a PhD in GM SS 454 :)

#145 Ahmed on 06.08.21 at 12:45 pm

Remember when the Taliban destroyed those Buddest statues in 2001. We all condemned those actions. We thought we were so civilized back then. Now what’s become of us? Something about glass houses…

#146 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 12:48 pm

#136 Faron on 06.08.21 at 10:50 am
#131 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 9:45 am
#124 Faron on 06.08.21 at 2:04 am
#108 Sail Away on 06.07.21 at 9:41 pm

Seriously?

SA has repeatedly demeaned or minimized death and dying.
— — —

You need a break, bro.

#147 the jaguar on 06.08.21 at 12:58 pm

@ 140 CEF
I know how you feel. One just has to wait patiently for its arrival. You can almost set a timer, lol…

#148 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 1:09 pm

#138 Lisa Thompson on 06.08.21 at 10:53 am
The problem with many people today is there is no appreciation for anything they have and are only quick to blame others for their problems, personal decisions and circumstances. I am not rich and work 2 part-time jobs 54 hours a week and earned a modest $58,000 last year with I finally reached my goal for 2020 and saved my first $24,000 after working 1 year.

I don’t like real estate, too much upkeep and maintenance, hassles, insurance, taxes, bills etc. I like simple, straightforward things and at 20 years old living on my own and taking care of myself I can’t afford to lose money. I put $4,000 in a higher interest savings account and $20,000 in a 10 year 2.40% annual compound interest RRSP GIC.

I know there is a whole world of investing out there with much higher returns but for now I want to keep it simple and accumulate a decent amount over the next 10 years to start.
— ——-

You are wise beyond your years, keep doing what you are doing. I have a son almost your age who just passed 20k, but it’s going towards education. If you manage that savings rate over the long term, and eventually hook up with a fee based pro like TI, you are going to retire early on a fat pile because you’re hard at it already at only 20.

I spent a couple decades slogging it into MF’s via TNLB paying 2.4% MER’s before I switched to fee based, and it’s been awesome ever since. You’re way ahead of me, so stay true to the colours, build that epidermis up, and get into real investing ASAP.

If you’re like me and have zero aptitude or desire for self directed investing, pay a Pro to handle it – you won’t regret it. You’ll need to be tough at first, decades later you’ll understand the occasional losses are almost always followed by big gains. Case in point: March 2020 till now.

Keep up the good work.

#149 Faron on 06.08.21 at 1:18 pm

#146 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 12:48 pm

You need to figure out why you are defending this clown.

#150 Quintilian on 06.08.21 at 1:22 pm

“Prices are not falling by half.”

Maybe 49.99% ?

You must realize that a soft landing is an impossibility.

#151 Sail Away on 06.08.21 at 1:32 pm

#136 Faron on 06.08.21 at 10:50 am

Yes, seriously. Murdering a family is murder, not destruction. SA has repeatedly demeaned or minimized death and dying. It could be forgiven as sloppiness yesterday if it wasn’t a common theme… [blah blah blah… ad infinitum… ad nauseum… alea iacta est…]

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I forgive you

#152 oops on 06.08.21 at 1:47 pm

@ Nonpulsed

Def’n time for you to take a break.

#153 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 2:03 pm

#145 Ahmed on 06.08.21 at 12:45 pm
Remember when the Taliban destroyed those Buddest statues in 2001. We all condemned those actions. We thought we were so civilized back then. Now what’s become of us? Something about glass houses…
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Amen to that, it’s an ideological thing, meaning a human nature thing. All over the world, and all throughout history. Destroy the representations of the ideals we hate. Thankfully, only a small fraction of humanity is stupid enough to think this kind of stuff does any actual good. The bottom fraction.

We all stomped our feet and threw tantrums at one point, but some never progress beyond that EQ level. The rest of of us manage to grab a brain somewhere along the line.

A lot of these protesting shit-disturber types end up totally frigged up on drugs, diagnosed with some mental illness, getting killed somehow, or offing themselves as they progress into middle age. We’re not talking about sturdy intelligent folks here. They kick and scream in the spotlight when they’re young and offended, but no one gives a rip what they think after they hit 40. Sorry!

If ripping this statue down was meant to make me sympathetic to some cause, draw positive awareness to some issue, or soften my position on some historical event, I’m afraid my overall impression is the cause is supported by lunatics who need to be tossed in jail. Get that done, maybe then I’ll start thinking about their grievances. Not before. Sorry homies, human nature is just as applicable to me, as it is to you.

#154 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 2:05 pm

#149 Faron on 06.08.21 at 1:18 pm
#146 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 12:48 pm

You need to figure out why you are defending this clown.
——

Because he is not saying what you claim he is saying.

#155 Faron on 06.08.21 at 2:06 pm

Just a reminder about Sail Away (In addition to spring, 2020 posts about COVID being a nothingburger and that people die all the time, so who cares [in his defence Elon is his pied piper]):

#81 Sail Away on 08.23.20 at 4:25 pm
#53 Dolce Vita on 08.23.20 at 2:03 pm
#37 Sail Away

Arguably, Trump has not done a good job with COVID-19, no, not by any stretch of the imagination (4.3% of the World’s population, 24.4% of the World’s COVID-19 cases, 21.9% of Worldwide COVID-19 deaths…not exactly a resounding endorsement let alone a success story).

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Most people who are alive don’t care in the slightest.

It’s a non-issue.

What a callous statement, when hundreds of thousands have died. Time you took a break from this blog. Bye. – Garth

Wasn’t enough for him:

#220 Sail Away on 08.24.20 at 3:56 pm

SUSPENDED

I think he recently claimed that he got suspended for defending someone which is an outright lie if you read the above. There are many treasures in the Sail Away archives. A good one was when he claimed that conservatives would never fall into a state of lawlessness and disorder. Jan 6th ring any bells? Hardy har.

#156 Faron on 06.08.21 at 2:12 pm

#144 IHCTD9 on 06.08.21 at 12:39 pm

I’d rather get a PhD in GM SS 454 :)

You’d be better off getting a B.Sc. or M.Sc. and designing that engine or an improved version. Nobody gets a Ph.D. for the $$$$. Trust me.

#157 KLNR on 06.08.21 at 2:33 pm

@#155 Faron on 06.08.21 at 2:06 pm
Just a reminder about Sail Away (In addition to spring, 2020 posts about COVID being a nothingburger and that people die all the time, so who cares [in his defence Elon is his pied piper]):

#81 Sail Away on 08.23.20 at 4:25 pm
#53 Dolce Vita on 08.23.20 at 2:03 pm
#37 Sail Away

Arguably, Trump has not done a good job with COVID-19, no, not by any stretch of the imagination (4.3% of the World’s population, 24.4% of the World’s COVID-19 cases, 21.9% of Worldwide COVID-19 deaths…not exactly a resounding endorsement let alone a success story).

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Most people who are alive don’t care in the slightest.

It’s a non-issue.

What a callous statement, when hundreds of thousands have died. Time you took a break from this blog. Bye. – Garth

Wasn’t enough for him:

#220 Sail Away on 08.24.20 at 3:56 pm

SUSPENDED

I think he recently claimed that he got suspended for defending someone which is an outright lie if you read the above. There are many treasures in the Sail Away archives. A good one was when he claimed that conservatives would never fall into a state of lawlessness and disorder. Jan 6th ring any bells? Hardy har.

Faron, just stop feeding the resident trolls.

#158 Ustabe on 06.08.21 at 4:47 pm

Faron, just stop feeding the resident trolls.

I agree, Faron. This is not an intellectual debate society. This is a place were we are right, dammit! If Garth publishes my thoughts on any matter then it is true.

Something for you to ponder: Back a few there was a series of conversations around a relative of Garth’s buried somewhere in Vancouver. Flop found the grave and so on. Go back and read those heartfelt postings again and then come back to recent times and read the musings on the residential school kids unmarked graves.

Compare and contrast. Not details but rather tone.

That should tell you all you need to know about the capability for reasoned discourse with this group.

#159 wetcoastpoor on 06.08.21 at 5:11 pm

Do I misunderstand debt-to-income ratio?

How do you borrow mortgage money if you are already at 450%??? What happened to 42% TDS guidelines, surely such a high DTI breaks your ability to pay.

#160 Trudi Woods on 06.08.21 at 8:53 pm

I hate destruction of public property and the disrespect it shows and the anger on both sides it will invoke …how many governments have had the opportunity to address this situation…and didn’t…how many words were written and ignored…generations…my guide on this is Murray Sinclair…past present…future

#161 ok boomer on 06.08.21 at 11:38 pm

Applying today’s moral code and ethical compass to people who lived 180 years ago and wasting time trashing their markers seems beyond pointless.
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