Deal with it

Remember how a certain pathetic blog told you a month or two ago that big-city condos, germy, unloved and forlorn, were maybe a deal?

Well, guess what?

In the autumn there were 14 units available in a prime low-rise building in the very heart of Toronto’s financial district. Most were one-bedders listed by owners/landlords who were whacked as the rental market sagged under the weight of Coividmania. Prices dipped from $1,200 a foot down to a grand, then to $900 and finally into the eight-range.

And that, it now appears, may have been the bottom. Fourteen has dropped to two. Over the usually-moribund year-end holidays a half dozen changed hands. It’s a trend local agents watched gather steam in December, as scores of urban units across the city were quietly snapped up after months of neglect and price erosion.

During this time, rents cascaded lower by 20%, the inevitable result of an Airbnb crash, no university classes, lockdowns crushing the hospitality sector, office closures birthing a WFH phenom and an abrupt end to the flow of new Canadians. The perfect storm. Plus there are thousands of newly-built condos coming to market, leading to supply overwhelming demand.

But, could it be over already? Even in the middle of a Second Wave province-wide shutdown and with the vax rollout hideously bungled by our inept political class?

Well, look at the numbers. That dumpster fire of a year ended on a roiling crest of house-horniness. And it’s no longer just the suburbs stirring loins and arousing the masses. Some people who know where this world of ours is headed have smelled a potential opportunity. They know. The pandemic will end. Like all health emergencies, it’s temporary. Three efficient vaccines now exist and despite the idiocy of government, they will work. The herd will get dosed. Normal will be here next year. The downtown will be alive again.

Meanwhile the virus created ideal conditions for every Audi-driving real estate agent. The quarantine-induced WFH reality spurred a rush for more space and suddenly justified renovations. Fear of infections had people desperate for houses with street doors, back yards and private garages. The myth of no-more-commute seduced many into buying Hicksville houses they could never afford in the city. And the cheapest mortgage rates in history – brought in as a way to stave off economic disaster – meant lower payments on greater debt.

So here’s the scorecard in the nation’s largest real estate market during a year when we had (a) a global pandemic, (b) the worst recession in 80 years, (c) unemployment which soared to 14%, (d) millions on government pogey, (e) hundreds of thousands unable to make credit card or mortgage payments and (f) the virtual destruction of a bunch of sectors. Plus, of course, (g) almost 16,000 dead people.

Amazing. But during 2020 over 95,000 properties sold in the GTA, up 8.4% over 2019 – when none of the above crap happened. Sales in December were (wait for it…) up 64.5%. The average sale price of $930,000 grew 13.5% year/year with detached houses leading the way. Last month detacheds climbed in value over 17% to an average of $1.24 million with a sales increase of 56%.

And condos? Well, there was a jump in sales of 75.4%, if you can believe it, with the average price change in 416 crawling almost back to zero by year’s end. And look at what’s just happened in the burbs: condos there increased over 6% even as their urban brethren languished. And a detached house in the boonies sits in record territory with an average price of $1.175 million.

What next?

More of the same. This spring market will be greased by vax hopes, economic re-opening, FOMO and cheap rates. A lot of people will get themselves seriously deep in debt, some foolishly and many by buying in the wrong location. A relative few will have secured properties when they dropped, while the majority pay record amounts.

And now we have the spectre of higher mortgage rates in 2021, thanks in part to what happened Tuesday night in Georgia.

It’s the end of Trump and the dawn of a Democratically-controlled Congress, despite the disgraceful storming of Capital Hill on Wednesday. That guarantees a new Covid aid package, tons of government spending, an easier monetary policy, higher deficits, increased stimulus and, yes, a pop in bond yields.

The US 10-year surged past 1% because the blue guys defeated the red guys, as predicted here.  Meanwhile the Dow romped hundreds of points to a new record high, as did the S&P 500. There is finally certainty in American politics. The Tweetster is gone. Disgraced completely after the Washington riot. The electoral nightmare is over. And Biden will do what Trump could not – focus squarely on attacking the pandemic that has crippled the economy.

“We expect more upside,” says analyst Ed Pennock. “The stimulus will overcome the tax rate fears for now. Infrastructure is back on the table. And rising rates are good for bank stocks. Think early cycle. And longer term, maybe it’s time to invest in Canada again?”

You betcha. Meanwhile Mr. Bond Market will soon goose mortgage rates in this country – making real estate less affordable, while the Year of the Vax makes your boss dream of seeing you back in the ant farm. You might need to move back downtown. Sorry.

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#1 Apocalypse NOW on 01.06.21 at 3:03 pm

Updated 3:00 P.M.

US CAPITOL BREACHED

https://www.cnn.com/

ARMED STANDOFF

SHOTS HEARD FROM INSIDE CAPITOL

PENCE BEING EVACUATED

REPORTS OF PIPE BOMBS ACROSS D.C.

*****************************************

US CAPITOL UNDER ATTACK!!

Updated 2:18 P.M.

“U.S. Congress Under Attack, Trump Supporters Enter Capitol Building”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/trump-supporters-storm-u-s-capitol.html

GET OUT OF THE USA! PACK UP TO LEAVE URBAN CENTRES!

NOW!

GLOBAL CHAOS COMING!

You have no idea how ready China and Russia are to deal with all this. It will be EPIC.

PREPARE

#2 Trudeau’s Magic Money Machine on 01.06.21 at 3:05 pm

Canadian Oil stocks on the rise again today.

The trend will continue.

Still lots of time to get on the train.

I’m just like Garth, I only want to make you money.

#3 Jesse on 01.06.21 at 3:06 pm

Why does Garth think WFH will end, most companies have adapted and it’s more likely people will only be in the office 1 or 2 times a week once things go back to normal. Lot’s of companies have spent a lot of money on software and shifted around work to a new normal that people are settled into. Many companies are redoing their lease agreements to have less office space available assuming people will be working from home more, and when people do come in they won’t have a personal space, it will be just take an open work station. This is the new normal.

#4 Prussian Blue on 01.06.21 at 3:17 pm

first!?
up up and up

#5 Catalyst on 01.06.21 at 3:18 pm

Are you kidding me, prices have gone parabolic for 5 years and now is the time to buy? Look at the below unit.

Bought April 2018 for $620k and Sold Dec 2020 $687k

Unit 1701 – 270 Queens Quay W

It seems even you have given up on the idea that R/E prices can go down.

The danes came out with a consumer mortgage rate of 0% fixed for 20 years. I can’t believe this but we might be in the early innings of a huge R/E bull run.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-05/danes-get-20-year-0-mortgages-as-interest-rates-keep-sinking

#6 BlogDog123 on 01.06.21 at 3:19 pm

Trump protesters invading the capital?

Shouldn’t they all be at work?

#7 Tua the Redeemer on 01.06.21 at 3:22 pm

With the white collar layoffs that are coming this month, I think there might be a bit of a dampening effect come in the spring. Many of the big companies didn’t do any layoffs last year and pledged not too for 2020. Well, it’s 2021 and the bloodletting begins this month. Take the usual 3-5% trims, plus the folks who’ve shown they can’t work from home, and there will be a bunch of people worried about where their next pay check is going to come from.

#8 Joe Schmoe on 01.06.21 at 3:23 pm

I am glad I invested in designer dogs (anything with an oodle in it) and home barber kits… This will keep paying off for most of 2021.

Going to be an interesting year! US will stabilize and Canada will do the opposite.

Diversity rocks! And not just JT’s cabinet.

#9 Felix on 01.06.21 at 3:24 pm

A dogawful mutt trying to suffocate a human is, sadly, hardly atypical.

#10 Faron on 01.06.21 at 3:27 pm

Garth, I respectfully ask, can you please comment on what’s happening in the US’ capitol right now? It’s important for someone who has sat in the halls of power to inform here.

Thanks

Sad, disgraceful, lamentable. Those who ever supported this egomaniac – and there are many on this blog – should hang their heads in shame. We are several steps closer to a societal breakdown. Trump now has blood on his hands. This is his creation. There is no justification. – Garth

#11 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 3:29 pm

I sure hope you’re right Garth, for Canada’s sake.

Few GDP sectors left with weight to them that are growing and RE is one of them. I mean you go to the last GDP report for Oct. 2020 and there aren’t a lot of pluses looking at the October 2019 to October 2020 numbers:

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/201223/t001a-eng.htm

All GDP Industries still down -3.5% overall for the aforementioned period.

And it’s slowing down with Sept. to Oct. 2020 GDP growth +0.4%. It will not get much better the way it’s been going and headed.

#12 IHCTD9 on 01.06.21 at 3:30 pm

It really is insane what RE is doing. I can’t make sense of it beyond that it’s probably 90% the super low rates combined with all the things they cause to happen in the real world, and in peoples heads (and loins).

One thing is certain, most of the weirdness is emanating from the GTA, and it’s got longer legs than ever before.

This is going to take a long time to sort out. Make that it BETTER take a long time to sort out, the pain will be too great if it happens fast. Rates need to come up slow, real slow.

We’re in the red zone, and we can’t take too many more RPM before we put a rod out the side of the block.

#13 Apocalypse NOW on 01.06.21 at 3:47 pm

Updated 3:44 P.M.

from CNN – Van Jones

“We are on the glide path…to Civil War”

https://www.cnn.com/

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#14 Doug t on 01.06.21 at 3:47 pm

Once the WFH gang heads back to the city I will be ready to pickup cheap property in the rural spot I want for retirement

#15 cto on 01.06.21 at 3:49 pm

Garth,
dont you think its time that you re-named this blog???
Maybe…”it’s different this time”???
or…
“greaterfools win!…or something like that,…

#16 Rainman on 01.06.21 at 3:51 pm

I agree with what you say other than interest rates going up. Denmark now has a 0% mortgage rate on a 20 year term. Housing might continue to get goosed for years to come.

#17 Stan Brooks on 01.06.21 at 3:56 pm

Apocalypse now is still around, so I thought to give it last try to make this blog more flavorful/apart from the endless dog pictures and repeating baseless WRONG statements on crypto, gold, interest rates and economy, including preferreds.

So GT, direct question for you:

What is really your goal with this blog, big ego satisfaction and playing the ultimate authority, enforcing strange politically correct rules or really in search of how to help your readers?

Not that I really care, just trying to assess last remaining pieces of the puzzle that you a typical conservative Canadian represents.

Just a note that I assess your view on interest rates, money, the overall economy including the potential market returns as pathetic. Of course I don’t expect your filter to allow this post, but still overall quite amused with your personality,

Cheers,

#18 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 3:56 pm

Well the Republican party will have to deal with the lunatics’ lies now…….

Trump isnt POTUS ….he’s just a P.O.S.

#19 Faron on 01.06.21 at 3:57 pm

#10 Faron on 01.06.21 at 3:27 pm

Garth, I respectfully ask, can you please comment on what’s happening in the US’ capitol right now? It’s important for someone who has sat in the halls of power to inform here.

Thanks

Sad, disgraceful, lamentable. Those who ever supported this egomaniac – and there are many on this blog – should hang their heads in shame. We are several steps closer to a societal breakdown. Trump now has blood on his hands. This is his creation. There is no justification. – Garth

Thank you Garth. I am on the verge of tears here. This outcome was inevitable in some ways, but I didn’t realize how saddening it would be to witness. I hope what plays out in the US helps Canadians to steer clear. Us of the non world war generations now know democracy is far more fragile than we thought.

#20 SoggyShorts on 01.06.21 at 3:58 pm

Is crowdedelevatorfartz going to win the blue sweep bet today?

#21 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 3:58 pm

Irritating to read from the Toronto Sun about empty field hospitals as if it is all folly in ON.

Irritating after having seen this in my email in basket from Leger:

https://i.imgur.com/6r89zxE.png

So 14% did not follow recommendations over XMas about not visiting other homes (12%: 2 to 3 times, 2%: 3 or more times).

32M Canadians 15 years or older.

14% = 4,480,000

Per Health Canada the Covid death rate is = 43/100K. Recent testing rates = 4.2% positive.

How many will likely get infected of the 14% self-indulgent and die?

Infections 188,160
Deaths 1926

Even for the 2% totally self-indulgent:

Infections 26,880
Deaths 275

Conclude on your own what is to come this month at your neighborhood hospital.

#22 S.Bby on 01.06.21 at 3:58 pm

Trump has had blood on his hands for the last four years. This is going to get ugly real fast and there could be a civil war to go along with the pandemic. The US is at the breaking point.

#23 IHCTD9 on 01.06.21 at 3:59 pm

#188 Ustabe on 01.06.21 at 3:11 pm
#182 the jaguar on 01.06.21 at 2:46 pm

Garth: can please advise on what would be needed to organize and vote someone off the blog..? Similar to voting someone off the island on the old tv show Survivor?

Name and shame. If there is support, he/she will be thrown overboard. – Garth

I am absolutely appalled at this exchange! If we don’t adhere to GroupThink, go along with the cult like adherence to a certain version of reality held by a vocal few who portray themselves as victims we get “voted” out?

The original question is aberrant, your answer is startling in its acceptance of you abdicating control over your blog and the combination of the two is anathema to me and, I suspect, many others.
___

I don’t think it’s so bad Mr. U. You can name and shame too! Maybe one of us knuckle draggers will get the heave-ho and you’ll like how it turned out.

Besides, Mr. T has been known to allow the Banned back in the kennel on occasion, if they behave themselves…

#24 Orange Man....Orange on 01.06.21 at 4:00 pm

#10 Faron on 01.06.21 at 3:27 pm
Garth, I respectfully ask, can you please comment on what’s happening in the US’ capitol right now? It’s important for someone who has sat in the halls of power to inform here.

Thanks

Sad, disgraceful, lamentable. Those who ever supported this egomaniac – and there are many on this blog – should hang their heads in shame. We are several steps closer to a societal breakdown. Trump now has blood on his hands. This is his creation. There is no justification. – Garth

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wow….. TDS much?

If you want to blame someone, blame the MSM. They’ve been on a non-stop hate and venom-filled tirade since an Outsider dared to enter the ring.

And yet here we are. A media clucking about the fires that they themselves stoked.

Sad… so sad…

You are done here. – Garth

#25 John on 01.06.21 at 4:01 pm

Maybe we should give the vax to Amazon, then everyone would have it next day.

Seriously, they have one of the best logistics operations in the world. Why are we ignoring it?

#26 Habitt on 01.06.21 at 4:06 pm

Thanks Garth that was funny.

#27 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 4:11 pm

More irritating than the Toronto Sun making light of empty ON field hospitals is YESTERDAY 1st year Engineering School XMas Graduate Trudeau still thinking all will be vax’d by September.

Farce. Math challenged an understatement or just plain arrogant?

3 weeks in:

172,000 doses administered

To achieve 75% herd immunity these many need to be vaccinated:

24,000,000 or 48,000,000 doses

Or this many doses per week in ALL of 2021:

923,077

If by September and for just 75% herd (not all Canadians), this many doses per week are needed to be administered (34 weeks):

1,411,765

They were correct to send him away from Engineering School and off to where 1st year Engineering XMas graduates end up in: Teaching (sorry Teachers but it’s true and ask any Engineer thats graduated).

————————

It will be a disappointing year for vax’ng until Canada steps its game up. Right now, it’s looking like:

MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.

#28 AmbiVasu on 01.06.21 at 4:15 pm

We were in Alberta back in 2013 when wage expansion went so high (including my salary up over 70% as an independent contractor) I said to my wife that these salaries are so high, that we don’t deserve these salaries and I am scared where this will all end. ….. And the results are all there for us to see….

Come now, as the prices of assets are exploding again (housing, stocks – our very small stock-holdings have gone up by over 2% in the first week of 2021) it scares me again.

Wondering if this asset inflation is sustainable and where will this end….

#29 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 4:20 pm

…and one last salvo.

1h ago and as I type, they are rioting in Washington, city wide lockdown…Trump protestor swarmed the Capitol Bldg. with one Congresswoman Tweeting a few minutes ago she had to evacuate.

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1346907735376470018

I ‘dunno Garth about America spending all will be tickety boo there. Doesn’t look like it to me.

#30 PetertheSeparatistfromCalgary on 01.06.21 at 4:22 pm

Today we still have plenty of undiscovered viruses in nature. Also once poor countries in both Africa and Asia are becoming more mobile and prosperous. Canada’s major cities are just one or two flights away from the next killer virus.

Every North American country needs to make people who travel outside of North America quarantine for a few weeks. Otherwise we will have another Corona type virus hitting us every few decades or worse.

I am pessimistic that the necessary preventative steps will be taken because their is too much money too made in travel. We are much more vulnerable to viruses in a globalized world connected by airplanes.

#31 Sail Away on 01.06.21 at 4:22 pm

Re: Capitol

Good thing they didn’t defund the police

#32 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:29 pm

#32 Sail Away on 01.06.21 at 4:22 pm

Re: Capitol

Good thing they didn’t defund the police

Just. Wow.

Friend, the very anti BLM/proud boys/ police supporting goons you identify with are on video punching and hammering on the thin blue line today and have sent several to the hospital. And this is your first comment about what’s happening in the country that gave you and your family a first opportunity to escape Venezuela.

#33 David Pylyp on 01.06.21 at 4:31 pm

” Prices dipped from $1,200 a foot down to a grand, then to $900 and finally into the eight-range.”

14 AVAILABLE Vacant and finally sold….

But real estate is all local…

Hard to compare the ICE Condos to Pinnacle at Lake Shore, then Jump to Liberty Village.

But Over at Humber Bay Shore, one single unit at 940 square feet; facing the water, gets listed at $899K and has 3 offers within a week. Rentals have multiple offers.

Similar boundaries can be drawn at Davisville or ST Clair or Eglinton ( the New Down Town )

Yes, rents have dropped, but covid combined with students not returning are playing havoc with vacancy rates.

When everything reopens, the supply will be snapped up.

If we ever re open….

David Pylyp
Toronto

#34 Cabbagetown Carly on 01.06.21 at 4:31 pm

So they say that Black people protesting peacefully in Portland last year should be “shot” (according to Trump himself) and prosecuted……

….while White thugs breaking into the Capitol are treated so nicely and non-aggressively by the police.

What a country America is…..still stuck in the mindset of Alabama, circa 1860.

#35 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 4:31 pm

“Sad, disgraceful, lamentable. Those who ever supported this egomaniac – and there are many on this blog – should hang their heads in shame. We are several steps closer to a societal breakdown. Trump now has blood on his hands. This is his creation. There is no justification. – Garth”

First of all, in no way, shape or form am I a Trump supporter. However, as someone who has followed the shenanigans in the States since Obama, this has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the corruption that has been going on in US politics, well, forever. The reason I saw Trump being elected in the first place was because he was an outsider, ie. not a politician, and he promised to get rid of the corrupt politicians. You can debate whether he did that or not but I believe there were a lot of disenfranchised Americans having been ignored for such a long time they just gave up. I mean Hillary didn’t even campaign in some States in 2016. She called people “deplorables.” Probably half or more of the US population could fit her definition of deplorable. That is just not right.

In my opinion, Trump was just in the right place at the right time to get elected. To place any type of blame on somebody who supported Trump is totally unjustifiable. There are many on both sides of the spectrum who could be blamed for what is happening in the US right now, regardless of whether there was election fraud or not.

‘Nothing to do with Trump? Are you daft? He has spent every moment since November 2nd telling people lies. Today he asked them to confront Congress. They did. There is no justification. – Garth

#36 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 4:31 pm

There are guns being drawn inside Congress. 53min ago.

Unbelievable.

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1346907735376470018

#37 Seeb on 01.06.21 at 4:33 pm

Kind of interesting how the Trump supporters get the red carpet treatment. If we recall the Black Lives Matter protests not long ago, police had no qualms about clubbing, kettling, and mass arresting people. Meanwhile, we watch “dumbfounded” A mob of disaffected white protesters get free run of the capital, several of which waving the Confederate flag within.

Why would the cops allow it? One interesting fact is 84% of them voted for Trump in the last election. Some cops are even taking selfies with the protesters as its happening…

#38 Sail away on 01.06.21 at 4:34 pm

#33 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:29 pm
#32 Sail Away on 01.06.21 at 4:22 pm

Re: Capitol

Good thing they didn’t defund the police

———–

Just. Wow.

Friend, the very anti BLM/proud boys/ police supporting goons you identify with are on video punching and hammering on the thin blue line today and have sent several to the hospital. And this is your first comment about what’s happening in the country that gave you and your family a first opportunity to escape Venezuela.

———–

???

Take a break, Faron. You’re losing it, not to mention making false assertions.

#39 TurnerNation on 01.06.21 at 4:35 pm

Wrt to events in the USA – and all (former) First World countries – viewed though the lens of, ‘would this societal or financial collapse help or hinder the march toward the call for a UN One-world global governance system’, what do you make of it?

The whole world’s a stage right now. Script after script, timelines nailed down. Sit back and watch.
Or do you think this is about our health Comrade?

#gotVIX?

#40 Brian Ripley on 01.06.21 at 4:36 pm

My Toronto Housing and my comparison between Vancouver and Toronto housing charts are up (Dec data): chpc.biz
Here are some results:

In Toronto:
Res-Listings down 65% from MAY 2013 high
Res-Sales down 44% from JUN 2016 high

Current Monthly Absorption Rate = 91%
Current Months of Inventory = 1

SF Detached Price
NEW PEAK PRICE DEC 2020
Up 123% in last 10 years

Town-House Price
NEW PEAK PRICE DEC 2020
T-Houses are priced at 62% of SFDs
or 1 SFD = 1.6 Townhouses

Condo Price
Down 9.8% from FEB 2020 Peak
Condos are priced at 48% of SFDs
or 1 SFD = 2.1 Condos

TOR has 0.9 x more Listings than VAN
TOR has 2.3 x more Sales than VAN

Inventory Sold Each Month: TOR = 91% VAN = 36%
Months of Inventory: TOR = 1.1 VAN = 2.8

VAN SFD is valued 42% higher than a TOR SFD
10 year inflation rate of SFDs VAN: 121% TOR: 123%

VAN T-House is valued 21% higher than a TOR T-House
VAN Condo is valued 11% higher than a TOR Condo

Average Annual Payroll Earnings (SEP Data)
ON: $59,489 and BC: $56,731

Annual Precipitation VAN:TOR = 2:1

HIGHER PRICES
42% more for a SFD in VAN
21% more for a Town House in VAN
11% more for a Condo in VAN

0.9 more Listings in TOR than VAN
2.3 x more Sales in TOR than VAN
Monthly Absorption Rate TOR:VAN = 2.5

Ratio of SFD to Strata
1 VAN SFD = 1.9 VAN Town Houses
1 TOR SFD = 1.6 TOR Town Houses
1 VAN SFD = 2.7 VAN Condos
1 TOR SFD = 2.1 TOR Condos

10 Year SFD Inflation Rate:
​VAN = 121% and TOR = 123%

VAN 1 bdrm rent down 11.4% Y/Y
TOR 1 bdrm rent down 17.4% Y/Y
VAN 2 bdrm rent down 11.6% Y/Y
TOR 2 bdrm rent down 15.7% Y/Y

Annual Precipitation VAN:TOR = 2:1

OCT 2020 Average Employment Earnings
BC = $56,731 /yr up 38% since MAR 2009 Crash
ON = $59,489 /yr up 39% since MAR 2009 Crash

​2016 Census Household Median Earnings
VAN = $88,000/yr and TOR = $88,170/yr

NOV 2020 Unemployment Rate
​Not Seasonally Adjusted (NSA)
BC = 7.6% and VAN = 7.9%
ON = 8.7% and TOR = 10.3%

NOV 2020 Employment Rate (NSA) Charts
BC = 59.2% and VAN = 60.1%
ON = 58.9% and TOR = 60.4%

Population 2016 Census Projection
VAN = 2.46 mil or 1004 /Km2
TOR = 5.93 mil or 855 /Km2

Earners needed to buy an average SFD:
VAN = 3.3 and TOR = 2.3 earners​​
(based on 2016 StatCan Census Median Household Income)​

#41 IHCTD9 on 01.06.21 at 4:36 pm

#30 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 4:20 pm
…and one last salvo.

1h ago and as I type, they are rioting in Washington, city wide lockdown…Trump protestor swarmed the Capitol Bldg. with one Congresswoman Tweeting a few minutes ago she had to evacuate.

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1346907735376470018

I ‘dunno Garth about America spending all will be tickety boo there. Doesn’t look like it to me.
____

Aye, this one is going to have ramifications. I understand they’re pissed – but the Capitol building? While in session, and full of lawmakers (incl. the new Pres)?

Yeow… ouch.

Just about any other idea they could have come up with would have been a better one.

#42 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 4:36 pm

3 min ago Trump (2232 CET):

“I know your pain. I know your hurt,” says Trump, again falsely claiming that the election was “stolen”.

“Everyone knows it. Especially the other side. But you have to go home now.”

He also told them (the terrorists): “I love you.” – Garth

#43 Prince Polo on 01.06.21 at 4:38 pm

What an epic failure of leadership. Frail ego’d Trump has the opportunity to call for law & order, but ends up playing the “election was stolen” card. Who is still here to say that he is presidential? Disgusting, sickening, and pathetic, is more like it!

#44 Brian Ripley on 01.06.21 at 4:39 pm

2020 postscript: For those Trump fanboys who are beginning to question the difference between their beliefs and facts, here is one of my posts on the psychology of Trump from April 2020 “Predator Trump” which explains how you could have been confused for the last 4+ years:
http://www.chpc.biz/history-readings/predator-trump

1) “Leading psychologists explain how Trump’s self-delusions make him stunningly effective at predatory deception.” (Trump utilizes a propaganda principle—the Big Lie.)

2) “Is Trump killing people on purpose?” The democidal maniac Donald Trump will attack us, badly. Make no mistake. Donald Trump is going to find a way to attack and cause great harm to the American people if he believes that he will lose the 2020 election.

3) “Necropolitics” To exercise sovereignty is to exercise control over mortality and to define life as the deployment and manifestation of power.

A psychopath has been in the White House for the last 4 years, and your critical thinking was on mute.

#45 AndrewJackson on 01.06.21 at 4:39 pm

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#46 Lisa Campbelford on 01.06.21 at 4:39 pm

“And Biden will do what Trump could not – focus squarely on attacking the pandemic that has crippled the economy.” –

someone will be soooooooo disappointed at Biden.
To say the least, Biden is incompetent. I can’t believe people trusted him with such power.

#47 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 4:39 pm

He also told them (the terrorists): “I love you.” – Garth

You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

WHAT a nutter.

#48 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 4:40 pm

On a different note, I just read a report from the Ontario Hospital Association entitled “Understanding the Impact of Covid-19 on Ontario Hospital Finances.” I mention this because we have been bombarded by news of overwhelmed hospitals which have been the justification for lockdowns. The report interestingly says that part of the reason for hospitals being overwhelmed is physical distancing.

“Physical distancing is yet another factor impacting both the number of available hospital and long-term care beds. Hospitals are now limiting the use of multi-bed ward rooms to two patients and most long-term care homes are no longer admitting new residents to rooms with more than two beds. These measures removed thousands of beds from the existing physical site capacity in both sectors.”

Of course this is not the only reason but it certainly is a big part of why hospitals in Ontario are being or could be overwhelmed. Yet, I don’t believe this report ever got a mention in the MSM and, I don’t know about anybody else, but when I hear hospitals being overwhelmed, I’m thinking because every bed is being used. That is certainly not the case, therefore, in my opinion, it’s just blatant fear mongering.

#49 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:41 pm

#38 Sail away on 01.06.21 at 4:34 pm

Care to inform me what is false?

You’ve said I have TDS, you’ve bemoaned leftist protest, you’ve made it clear that you are first gen immigrant to the US. It’s pretty clear what you stand for, and all you have to say about what is transpiring is a weak joke about defunding the police? What the H-E-L-L is wrong with you? Yeah I’m pissed. I’m saddened and horrified and dismayed about what I’m seeing in the US capital. Ustabe was right.

#50 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:44 pm

#38 Seeb on 01.06.21 at 4:33 pm

And they are being allowed to walk off the grounds after violating numerous laws.

Right wing spin downplaying all of this as “normal” starting in 3…2…1…

Oh, wait, Sail Away already started it.

#51 Mosey on 01.06.21 at 4:47 pm

A sad day for a formerly proud country. My heart goes out to all who live in America. Divided, America is falling. A sad, sad day. The American junior team’s miracle win last night probably was America’s last glory on the international stage for a while and by now it’s totally forgotten.

#52 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 4:48 pm

“Nothing to do with Trump? Are you daft? He has spent every moment since November 2nd telling people lies. Today he asked them to confront Congress. They did. There is no justification. – Garth”

Do you know if there was election fraud or not? Can you absolutely say with 110% certainty that there wasn’t? But fine, let’s say 110% there wasn’t. In his mind, he believed there was and he does have legal recourse to determine if there was. The US Supreme Court could have put this to bed once and for all by hearing the evidence yet they decided to defer the matter. They disregarded the Constitution.

Anyway, you bring up from November but I’m bringing it up from before 2020 to before 2016. This was a long time in coming and while Trump may be a recent catalyst he certainly is not solely to blame.

#53 yorkville renter on 01.06.21 at 4:50 pm

Trump, and his hard-core supporters, are terrorists and need to be charged.

To suggest that the MSM started this is beyond pale. Trump continues to tell lies to simply soothe his ego.

disgusting.

#54 Stock Jock on 01.06.21 at 4:51 pm

#2 Trudeau’s Magic Money Machine on 01.06.21 at 3:05 pm

Canadian Oil stocks on the rise again today.
The trend will continue.
Still lots of time to get on the train.
I’m just like Garth, I only want to make you money.

Do tell, oh wise one!

#55 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 4:51 pm

Latest is Trump sends in the National Guard and FBI Special Forces.

The EU MSM front page news even this close to midnight here in Europe.

Basically (the entire EU, just quickly scanned the top MSM pages):

Disbelief. Shock (for once applicable). Outrage. Dismay. Images you are not even seeing on TV or US MSM.

Fox “Go home in peace” the headline.
CNN “Mob invades US Capitol”

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Garth, I hope you are correct about the US this year under Biden, stimulus, seriously attacking Covid and today, hopefully an isolated incident.

How could they attack a Bastion of World Democracy?

How could they do such a thing?

#56 Sail away on 01.06.21 at 4:53 pm

#50 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:41 pm
#38 Sail away on 01.06.21 at 4:34 pm

Care to inform me what is false?

You’ve said I have TDS, you’ve bemoaned leftist protest, you’ve made it clear that you are first gen immigrant to the US. It’s pretty clear what you stand for, and all you have to say about what is transpiring is a weak joke about defunding the police? What the H-E-L-L is wrong with you? Yeah I’m pissed. I’m saddened and horrified and dismayed about what I’m seeing in the US capital. Ustabe was right.

————-

Stop, Faron.

Your first three points are accurate and factual and then you veer off into speculation and invective.

Unfair, untrue and childish. Attack something else.

#57 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:53 pm

Democrats now hold the Senate and House. Expect a very rapid impeachment in coming days. The hammer is about to drop. Won’t solve the root of these problems, but there will be a very strong rebuke of what we are witnessing today. If there’s not, I’ll take the side of those who disparage Biden and the incoming gov’t.

#58 Truth or consequences on 01.06.21 at 4:56 pm

#6 BlogDog123 on 01.06.21 at 3:19 pm

Trump protesters invading the capital?
Shouldn’t they all be at work?

Trump gave them the day off if they agreed to create a scene. He’s planning to sign an executive order to make this a national holiday in honor of the Donald!

#59 Cowtown Cowboy on 01.06.21 at 4:56 pm

Amazing. But during 2020 over 95,000 properties sold in the GTA, up 8.4% over 2019 – when none of the above crap happened. Sales in December were (wait for it…) up 64.5%. The average sale price of $930,000 grew 13.5% year/year with detached houses leading the way. Last month detacheds climbed in value over 17% to an average of $1.24 million with a sales increase of 56%

As Toronto continues to demonstrate, they are truly the epicenter for the dumbest sonsabitches on the planet

#60 Ya just gotta ... on 01.06.21 at 4:59 pm

#1 Apocalypse NOW on 01.06.21 at 3:03 pm
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love this guy … never waivers … an iron grip on the tiller … and today #1` … my hat’s off to you today.

#61 yorkville renter on 01.06.21 at 4:59 pm

#53 – They disregarded the Constitution.

Really? The US Supreme Court did? Strange, since Trump added 3 justices to it.

Why did Trump lose those other 60 court cases?

it’s because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF FRAUD

The only reason you suspect fraud is that Trump’s ego can’t handle it.

GROW UP!

#62 yorkville renter on 01.06.21 at 5:01 pm

and another thing — NOT ONCE did Trump’s lawyers claim fraud in any court case because they have no evidence.

All of the court cases brought forward were about process and procedures, NOT fraud.

Do yourself a favour and spend 5 minutes reading into it.

#63 Timmy on 01.06.21 at 5:04 pm

How would buy a condo for 800k/sqr ft? Much cheaper to rent.

#64 Dolce Vita on 01.06.21 at 5:09 pm

#42 IHCTD9

Agree but hope for the best anyways.

Checking some “devout” Republicans on Twitter and a mixed bag.

One said (2.2M followers):

“Sed libera nos a malo.

AMEN.”

[Not in a good way]

and calmly likened it in prior Tweets to what Antifa and BLM have done.

Another said (1.9M followers):

“Our side shouldn’t act like ANTIFA. If these reports are true of what’s happening at the Capitol, it is no way to protest, no matter who is doing it.”

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There is some very real resentment going on in that country. Sad.

Hopefully Biden turns it around.

#65 Prince Polo on 01.06.21 at 5:11 pm

#18 Stan Brooks on 01.06.21 at 3:56 pm
[insults insults insults against the blog host, while trying to make it sound like a respectable post]

=================================
Do you let people into your own house and allow them to piss on the floor willy nilly? Don’t be a dick! I really hope you learn to be more polite, but if not, please let that be your last post, like you promised!

#66 SeeB on 01.06.21 at 5:12 pm

#36 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 4:31 pm
In my opinion, Trump was just in the right place at the right time to get elected. To place any type of blame on somebody who supported Trump is totally unjustifiable. There are many on both sides of the spectrum who could be blamed for what is happening in the US right now, regardless of whether there was election fraud or not.

I agree with everything you said except blaming Trump. He stoked the anger that lead to this uprising, along with the Republican senators that chose to indulge this delusion of a stolen election for the sake of their own power.

The structural economic issues that lead to this anger won’t get addressed. Poor white Republicans will continue to be screwed by a system that treats them as disposable. The grifter media figures that sprung up to profit from that anger, including Trump, will try their best to “keep this party going” long into the future.

Should Trump be arrested for sedition? Probably. Ain’t gonna happen though. The US is a rich man’s country and the rich never pay for hurting the poor.

#67 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 5:16 pm

@#18 Stan Brooks on 01.06.21 at 3:56 pm
Apocalypse now is still around, so I thought to give it last try to make this blog more flavorful/apart from the endless dog pictures and repeating baseless WRONG statements on crypto, gold, interest rates and economy, including preferreds.

So GT, direct question for you:

What is really your goal with this blog, big ego satisfaction and playing the ultimate authority, enforcing strange politically correct rules or really in search of how to help your readers?

Not that I really care, just trying to assess last remaining pieces of the puzzle that you a typical conservative Canadian represents.

Just a note that I assess your view on interest rates, money, the overall economy including the potential market returns as pathetic. Of course I don’t expect your filter to allow this post, but still overall quite amused with your personality,

Cheers,

hey Garth, one of the crazies got past security.

He’s pissed because I banned him. Snuck in under the razor wire. – Garth

#68 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 5:20 pm

“Canada is like a really nice apartment over a meth lab.”
– Robin Williams

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looks like the meth lab just blew up.

#69 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 5:24 pm

@#21 Soggy
“Is crowdedelevatorfartz going to win the blue sweep bet today?”

++++

Unfortunately, no one wins in US politics today.

#70 Adc on 01.06.21 at 5:27 pm

Since when has housing been affordable? Median household income vs house prices.

https://www.jobillico.com/blog/en/the-average-canadian-salary-in-2020/#:~:text=As%20of%20January%202020%2C%20the,just%20over%20%2454%2C630%20per%20year.

Buying a house seems like it’s a pipe dream, unless you like choking on debt.

#71 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 5:29 pm

@#32 Sail Away

Total agreement.
If the bleeding heart Liberals had their way the Police would be “defunded” aka “gone” and the anarchists’ would be dancing in the burnt out rubble of Congress.

Well lets see what 1800 National Guard troops will accomplish in very short order.

Wouldnt want to be one of the idiots that were arrested or video’d today smashing their way into Congress.

Judges will be taking a very hard line to send a message that this sort of anarchy …will …not….be …..tolerated.

#72 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 5:39 pm

#65 SeeB on 01.06.21 at 5:12 pm

We all have short memories. As I mentioned, in Bush v Gore, the US Supreme Court heard the evidence and made a decision, whereas, in this case they did not. While not exactly the same, it had to do with election counts. From Wikipedia:

“Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), was a decision of the United States Supreme Court on December 12, 2000, that settled a recount dispute in Florida’s 2000 presidential election between George W. Bush and Al Gore.

On December 8, the Florida Supreme Court had ordered a statewide recount of all undervotes, over 61,000 ballots that the vote tabulation machines had missed. The Bush campaign immediately asked the U.S. Supreme Court to stay the decision and halt the recount. Justice Antonin Scalia, convinced that all the manual recounts being performed in Florida’s counties were illegitimate, urged his colleagues to grant the stay immediately.[1] On December 9, the five conservative justices on the Court granted the stay for Bush, with Scalia citing “irreparable harm” that could befall Bush, as the recounts would cast “a needless and unjustified cloud” over Bush’s legitimacy. In dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote that “counting every legally cast vote cannot constitute irreparable harm.”[1] Oral arguments were scheduled for December 11.”

It goes on to say: “Specifically, the use of different standards of counting in different counties violated the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution.”

Again, not totally the same as this election but very similar nonetheless.

#73 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 5:41 pm

@#54 yorkville renter on 01.06.21 at 4:50 pm
Trump, and his hard-core supporters, are terrorists and need to be charged.

To suggest that the MSM started this is beyond pale. Trump continues to tell lies to simply soothe his ego.

disgusting.

yup, average trump supporter just traded their white hood in for a red cap.

#74 Cosmo Not on 01.06.21 at 5:43 pm

#20 Faron on 01.06.21 at 3:57 pm
#10 Faron on 01.06.21 at 3:27 pm

Garth, I respectfully ask, can you please comment on what’s happening in the US’ capitol right now? It’s important for someone who has sat in the halls of power to inform here.

Thanks

Sad, disgraceful, lamentable. Those who ever supported this egomaniac – and there are many on this blog – should hang their heads in shame. We are several steps closer to a societal breakdown. Trump now has blood on his hands. This is his creation. There is no justification. – Garth

Thank you Garth. I am on the verge of tears here. This outcome was inevitable in some ways, but I didn’t realize how saddening it would be to witness. I hope what plays out in the US helps Canadians to steer clear. Us of the non world war generations now know democracy is far more fragile than we thought.

Amazing that when your little Demonrats were running around burning, pillaging and looting this summer, it was “crickets” from the peanut gallery.

Oh, sorry … that was because it was Black Lives Matter and it was in exclusively blue states. Now that it is a “Trumpster fire” and not “the summer of love”, you’re all over it!

Do you really see your own hypocrisy or are you just tone deaf?

#75 Wrk.dover on 01.06.21 at 5:47 pm

Pre 2016 there were two types of people in the World.

Americans, and wannabees.

Not so anymore.

#76 Faron on 01.06.21 at 5:49 pm

#56 Sail away on 01.06.21 at 4:53 pm

#50 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:41 pm
#38 Sail away on 01.06.21 at 4:34 pm

Your only statement when the country, that you at one time potentially put your life on the line for, is subject to a right wing insurrection is a crappy one-off about defund the police, a movement you don’t even understand? Meanwhile, the police have happily allowed the demonstrators to trespass on the non-public parts of the capital in stark contrast to the flash grenades and very harsh tactics deployed against peaceful protesters outside the white house to clear the crowd from public streets so Trump could get a photo op at a church that despises him? And you wonder why the far left calls to alter the police force (the true meaning behind the horrible termed defund the police movement)? There’s nothing childish about calling feces feces and if it takes invective to do so, that’s fine. It’s the ones like yourself who are too dainty to acknowledge the crap on their face that are to be feared.

#77 Ace of Spades on 01.06.21 at 5:49 pm

#26 John on 01.06.21 at 4:01 pm
Maybe we should give the vax to Amazon, then everyone would have it next day.

Seriously, they have one of the best logistics operations in the world. Why are we ignoring it?

———————————————————
Shipped tonight … Delivered by tomorrow. Expired and worthless by dinner time!

We’ll get people to start injecting themselves because what could possibly go wrong.

Great idea! Can you please share some of your other ideas for the benefit of the steerage section?

#78 OK, Doomer on 01.06.21 at 5:50 pm

The chaos is the U.S. is disheartening. I expected better from both Republicans and Democrats. The tell as to which way America goes will be seen in Biden’s First 100 Days.

If Biden spends it well and moves towards healing the Nation, more power to him. If he allows retribution against political enemies to take root, then he will be exactly the wrong man for the times.

#79 Grammar Police on 01.06.21 at 5:50 pm

#66 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 5:16 pm

@#18 Stan Brooks on 01.06.21 at 3:56 pm
Apocalypse now is still around, so I thought to give it last try to make this blog more flavorful/apart from the endless dog pictures and repeating baseless WRONG statements on crypto, gold, interest rates and economy, including preferreds.

So GT, direct question for you:

What is really your goal with this blog, big ego satisfaction and playing the ultimate authority, enforcing strange politically correct rules or really in search of how to help your readers?

Not that I really care, just trying to assess last remaining pieces of the puzzle that you a typical conservative Canadian represents.

Just a note that I assess your view on interest rates, money, the overall economy including the potential market returns as pathetic. Of course I don’t expect your filter to allow this post, but still overall quite amused with your personality,

Cheers,

hey Garth, one of the crazies got past security.

He’s pissed because I banned him. Snuck in under the razor wire. – Garth

&&*%%&$##@#@@$#^[email protected]#[email protected]**((_(_)&&*^&%$#$

It’s “SNEAKED” Garth!

Your traveller’s permit to the UK is hereby CANCELLED!

#80 cuke and tomato picker on 01.06.21 at 5:51 pm

Number 26 -John – Great idea let Amazon look after the
distribution of the vaccine. Also like Chris Cuomo says
remember the names of those who were preventing Mike
Pence from doing his job. lets hope that this will be brief and resolved soon.

#81 waltersafety on 01.06.21 at 5:54 pm

No fires today on Capital Hill . Looting ?remains to be seen .

The other side could teach a thing or two about what a protest should look like .

#82 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 5:54 pm

@#33 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:29 pm
#32 Sail Away on 01.06.21 at 4:22 pm

Re: Capitol

Good thing they didn’t defund the police

Just. Wow.

Friend, the very anti BLM/proud boys/ police supporting goons you identify with are on video punching and hammering on the thin blue line today and have sent several to the hospital. And this is your first comment about what’s happening in the country that gave you and your family a first opportunity to escape Venezuela.
—-

lol you always take the bait.
guys just chumming the waters.

#83 SeeB on 01.06.21 at 5:56 pm

#70 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 5:29 pm

@#32 Sail Away

Total agreement.
If the bleeding heart Liberals had their way the Police would be “defunded” aka “gone” and the anarchists’ would be dancing in the burnt out rubble of Congress.

Well lets see what 1800 National Guard troops will accomplish in very short order.

Wouldnt want to be one of the idiots that were arrested or video’d today smashing their way into Congress.

Judges will be taking a very hard line to send a message that this sort of anarchy …will …not….be …..tolerated.

Defund never meant abolish, and there’s been more than enough time and information to figure that out by now.

Love how a pile of Trump supporters, fresh from hearing the same sort of lies from their leader, start rioting in the capitial building is still somehow translated into a criticism of “the left”.

Wake up. You are a part of this.

#84 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 5:57 pm

@@#32 Sail Away

Total agreement.
If the bleeding heart Liberals had their way the Police would be “defunded” aka “gone” and the anarchists’ would be dancing in the burnt out rubble of Congress.

Well lets see what 1800 National Guard troops will accomplish in very short order.

Wouldnt want to be one of the idiots that were arrested or video’d today smashing their way into Congress.

Judges will be taking a very hard line to send a message that this sort of anarchy …will …not….be …..tolerated.

It was amusing watching a couple of the cops take selfies with some of the hillbillies. wonder what happens to them.

#85 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 5:58 pm

It should be interesting to watch what happens to Trump after he is out.
Encouraging his followers to storm Congress….what an idiot.
He has alienated the Republican and Democrats alike as he
If he thinks Congress, the FBI, the US Attorney are just going to let him walk away untouched…..after this breach of office…..
He’s going to find out how “big” and untouchable he really is.
I knew he was incapable of going quietly but this breaks the mold.
Whats next from Trump?
A Presidential pardon for all the rioters?

#86 Penny Henny on 01.06.21 at 6:01 pm

5 years ago prices in Welland were 25-30% of what they were in Toronto for a similar house (more specifically comparing Etobicoke and Welland). Now prices in Welland are 50% of Etobicoke prices and gaining.

#87 Greg on 01.06.21 at 6:08 pm

Shithole country.

#88 mark wolovetz on 01.06.21 at 6:09 pm

Yes very disturbing about USA demonstrations and violence, people have just had enough, frustrated, pandemic, not saying its right, just a perfect storm for getting into trouble, lets hope no one gets hurt.

#89 mark on 01.06.21 at 6:10 pm

Yes very disturbing about USA demonstrations and violence, people have just had enough, frustrated, pandemic, not saying its right, just a perfect storm for getting into trouble, lets hope no one gets hurt.

#90 R on 01.06.21 at 6:17 pm

How were the armed protesters allowed into the Capital Building?Where were the guards ? If the protesters were non white, they would have been machine gunned down.Tonight is sad . Trump has hypnotized his supporters with hate.

#91 Howard on 01.06.21 at 6:17 pm

#33 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:29 pm

I see little difference between the Capitol Hill thugs and the Portland communists that nearly murdered Andy Ngo and destroyed innumerable small businesses.

#92 KNOW IT ALL on 01.06.21 at 6:21 pm

Yeah oh yeah its ANARCHY IN THE USA!

#93 Dudley Stevens on 01.06.21 at 6:22 pm

Garth, 60% of Canadians are concerned about inflation. Where were they for the last 10 years plus? When their taxes, confiscation and cost of living gets Venezuela, Argentina, USSR, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Bolivia etc. style money devaluation they can all starve.

#94 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 6:24 pm

@#86 Howard on 01.06.21 at 6:17 pm
#33 Faron on 01.06.21 at 4:29 pm

I see little difference between the Capitol Hill thugs and the Portland communists that nearly murdered Andy Ngo and destroyed innumerable small businesses.

you may want to get your eyes checked

#95 Drinking on 01.06.21 at 6:25 pm

Normal, maybe, just maybe in two to three years, that little bugger virus (as I said it would months back, check blog responses) will keep mutating and we are in it for the long haul, NOT THE SHORT, if you have debt pay the damn thing off, if not, I will say that people with cash will be in a much better situation! As the famous Klein said; what goes up always comes down!

#96 Linda on 01.06.21 at 6:26 pm

I believe that when it came to a response to the pandemic, Trump ‘would not’ deal with it. Not ‘could not’. This was a POTUS who wouldn’t even wear a mask, who downplayed the effects of the virus, who when diagnosed with said virus continued to downplay it & even did a drive by while infected despite any risk of infection to those tasked with protecting him. The only thing Trump did do was strongly encourage the development of vaccines. I’m presuming he did not in any way slow down the approval of vaccines or their distribution to the general populace – the endless rhetoric over the election results did not permit any positive actions in vaccine approval or distribution to be highlighted. Unfortunately he continues to downplay the pandemic, even publicly questioning whether the reported deaths by the CDC are accurate, further eroding any faith the public might have in the health care system while enabling those who would rather see fellow citizens die needlessly before donning a mask, let alone permit themselves to be vaccinated. By the time Biden is sworn in, some 400,000 US citizens will have succumbed to the virus. That’s part of Trump’s ‘legacy’, whether he likes it or not.

#97 steve on 01.06.21 at 6:29 pm

amazing only one death.

dozens or more break in and enter into us federal building. Any other country in the world and many shots would be fired.

somehow, someway, this happened with only one person getting shot.

That, in itself, is crazy.

#98 SeeB on 01.06.21 at 6:32 pm

#71 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 5:39 pm

Again, not totally the same as this election but very similar nonetheless.

“Not totally the same?” Stop normalizing what’s going on today.

Show me 1 different instance of footage where Gore called 2000 a fradulent election.

Show me 1 instance in the 4 years of Clinton before, where they complained about fraudulent elections.

Show me 1 instance after the 2000 election where Gore supporters stormed the capital.

How do you equivocate that event with today and keep a straight face?

#99 dee on 01.06.21 at 6:36 pm

Garth i am really concerned about my health here in Canada. I have noticed there are many countries where the risk of dying of covid is lower. There are also other countries where their medical system is better at handling things. Wasn’t it a year ago now where China was quickly building field hospitals to help their sick covid patients? How about your area Garth, have you seen bulldozers or cranes building any new facilities for our sick? In the last year I haven’t seen any in my area. So Israel is vaccinating 150,000 a day, and how are we doing at that? I am starting to think i may be best to go now to another country because maybe I can get vaccinated there faster and also have better odds of living through the pandemic. So do you think now will be the best time to sell my place or when do you personally think the height of the market will hit?

#100 Leftover on 01.06.21 at 6:37 pm

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/gallery-trump-supporters-storm-us-capitol-halting-bidens-election-confirmation/

Yikes, storming the Bastille

100% pale, male and stupid

#101 Slim on 01.06.21 at 6:41 pm

Trump was totally incapable of being president. It’s like asking a child to do something that is way beyond his ability. He doesn’t have a legacy.

#102 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 6:42 pm

@#24 IHCTD9 on 01.06.21 at 3:59 pm

I am beside myself with laughter.

“188 Ustabe” “I am absolutely appalled at this exchange! “. Ha ha! It’s like Captain Renard in Casablanca blowing the whistle and crying out ” I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here …”. And the other exchanges that follow, especially the ones from the principal target to be voted off the island. “On the verge of tears” one moment and then back on the “attack” the next. True to his form. Would have made an excellent soldier in the last big war. At your feet or at your throat, I think was the popular quote to describe their behaviour.

Sail Away, don’t be dismayed by this reference to Venezuela. I was once kissed on the check by Maduro in a hotel lobby after a press conference. I don’t recall what it was all about as I was on a mission to track down something of more importance. Not my fault if some find me irresistible.

Guess I better turn on the news. Sounds like some big happenings today. What a great time to be alive!

Before I go:
@#7 Tua the Redeemer on 01.06.21 at 3:22 pm

“With the white collar layoffs that are coming this month, I think there might be a bit of a dampening effect come in the spring. Many of the big companies didn’t do any layoffs last year and pledged not too for 2020. Well, it’s 2021 and the bloodletting begins this month. Take the usual 3-5% trims, plus the folks who’ve shown they can’t work from home, and there will be a bunch of people worried about where their next pay check is going to come from.”———–

I think you are on the right track, Tua. This kind of echos what Don from the Big Isle of Van said the other day. That other shoe hasn’t really dropped yet, whatever Mr. Real Estate Market has to say about things. Cheers! Where are the schnapps and the newscast!

#103 Faron on 01.06.21 at 6:42 pm

#90 Howard on 01.06.21 at 6:17 pm

nearly murdered Andy Ngo

Andy was punched in the face and had a milkshake thrown at him. Look up your defn of murder. Yet, he regularly doxxes his enemies putting them in great peril of the goons that today overran the capital. Don’t be so naive.

#104 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 6:43 pm

Oh crap, that was supposed to read kissed on the cheek..lol Always thinking money!

#105 S.Bby on 01.06.21 at 6:46 pm

The guns are out in Washington. Capitol building stormed by protestors. Tear gas deployed. One woman shot dead. Pro Trump demonstrations are starting in other cities and even two demonstrations in Vancouver happening now.

I predicted back in November that there would be massive insurrections and unrest and that Trump would not leave peacefully.

#106 Faron on 01.06.21 at 6:48 pm

#73 Cosmo Not on 01.06.21 at 5:43 pm

Do you really see your own hypocrisy or are you just tone deaf?

You are joking, right? There is no equivalence between material damage to private property at the hands of rioters upset over racial killing, however despicable that damage is, and a lethally armed mob smashing the windows and invading the halls of power that keep the very democracy that the planet relies on for stability, running.

As I said before, here comes the white washing and downplaying of what the world just witnessed. Lets hope our collective attention span is long enough to remember this moment.

#107 Roial1 on 01.06.21 at 6:49 pm

The US is a rich man’s country and the rich never pay for hurting the poor.

Sadly this is one VERY TRUE STATEMENT.
It looks just like life in 18th century England.

There if one was rich enough they could commit murder and go free if the victim was poor.

Now murder may not be got away with BUT treason and theft (if large enough) can be gotten away with.

Just look at HSBC and it’s officers. Or Trump.

#108 Drinking on 01.06.21 at 6:50 pm

Trump should be ashamed of himself for helping to create this hysteria; sure, the whole system is corrupt but his tweets, stubbornness, are not helping at all. Grow up and move on!

Biden will equal= dead cat bounce in the long run(not the short); I hope like hell he does not start another war!

#109 Keen Reader on 01.06.21 at 6:50 pm

Truly sad turn of events in the US, typical of a true failure of leadership. Hopefully this is the low point, and better sense eventually prevails.

Meanwhile in Québec, four more weeks of lockdown. Calling it an electroshock against the spread: nightly curfews with fines up to $6000 for offenders. Will we see something similar to convince people to get jabbed??

#110 Faron on 01.06.21 at 6:50 pm

#104 S.Bby on 01.06.21 at 6:46 pm

The Patriot Prayer folks near my parent’s home in Oregon have been on their ranges practicing with their automatic weapons for a few days now (at greater frequency than normal). Fresh banners, fresh flags flying from their trucks. Watch what happens in Portland tonight. They feel they have license now. It will get ugly.

#111 Sail Away on 01.06.21 at 6:54 pm

#96 steve on 01.06.21 at 6:29 pm
amazing only one death.

dozens or more break in and enter into us federal building. Any other country in the world and many shots would be fired.

somehow, someway, this happened with only one person getting shot.

That, in itself, is crazy.

—————

Yes, a mature, measured and proportional response. The police deserve kudos.

#112 Faron on 01.06.21 at 6:55 pm

#103 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 6:43 pm

Oh crap, that was supposed to read kissed on the cheek..lol Always thinking money!

Or it’s the schnapps… Schlum tymes the kleybroad gesh blurry wen I drynk to mush too.

#113 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 6:59 pm

@#104 S.Bby on 01.06.21 at 6:46 pm
The guns are out in Washington. Capitol building stormed by protestors. Tear gas deployed. One woman shot dead. Pro Trump demonstrations are starting in other cities and even two demonstrations in Vancouver happening now.

I predicted back in November that there would be massive insurrections and unrest and that Trump would not leave peacefully.

LOCK ‘EM UP!

#114 Calling you out on 01.06.21 at 7:03 pm

Garth Jan 6-2020 Sad, disgraceful, lamentable. Those who ever supported this egomaniac – and there are many on this blog – should hang their heads in shame. We are several steps closer to a societal breakdown. Trump now has blood on his hands. This is his creation. There is no justification. – Garth
…………………………………………….
I say this is just like the “ summer of love” as described by the LIBERAL leaders during weeks of anarchy in Portland and Seattle.

is just like the summer of love

#115 Sold Out on 01.06.21 at 7:05 pm

Anyone who vocally supported the Mango Menace, who refused to believe he’s a sociopath, who claimed everyone else had TDS, should take a vow of blog silence for the next 4 years. Where’s that Bytor idiot? He should get 8 years silence.

#116 Doug t on 01.06.21 at 7:07 pm

#98 dee

Maybe some counselling first dee

#117 binky barnes on 01.06.21 at 7:08 pm

Concerned Canadians need some soothing words from our PM. It is moments like this when he shines.

BB

#118 Sold Out on 01.06.21 at 7:08 pm

The Traitor in Chief has been given a 12 hour lockout from his Twitter account, finally. One more violation of tos, and it’s permanent. Long passed due.

#119 Doug t on 01.06.21 at 7:13 pm

Garth – Don’t like George Carlin ?

#120 WalterBenjamin on 01.06.21 at 7:20 pm

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#121 Job#1 on 01.06.21 at 7:20 pm

I think Faron is trying to stage a coup and take over the comments tonight.

True to form, like he said “…against all the right wing extemists on this blog.”

Happy crusading, or should it be Jihad?

#122 Michael in-north-york on 01.06.21 at 7:21 pm

#145 SunShowers on 01.06.21 at 9:54 am
“#112 Michael in-north-york
You’re complaining about entities being “too big to fail?” We have that now under capitalism (see 2008). So what exactly are you afraid of?”

Believe me or not, it gets a lot worse in the communist system.

Here, a too-big-to-fail bailout can be given once or twice in the company’s life. But sooner rather than later, they either go bankrupt or just choose to close. And the market finds its new balance.

In the communist system, the bailouts go on for decades, and affect a much larger % of companies. Collectively, they drag the economy down, until it collapses and you can no longer buy the necessities for the government-issued money. And then the whole system changes abruptly, causing a great deal of mass suffering that you have probably never seen in your lifetime.

#123 Arse on 01.06.21 at 7:21 pm

I think there will be Martial Law In USA. Trump will order a new election. 5 percent of my portfolio is in BTC.

#124 Barb on 01.06.21 at 7:23 pm

“…dawn of a Democratically-controlled Congress”.

Nicely phrased.
Versus autocratically-controlled, as in 4 years of it.

#125 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 7:23 pm

@#82 SeeB

Defund the Police;

“While while some organizations are indeed calling for the abolishment or dismantling of police altogether, “defunding the police” simply means reducing police department budgets and redistributing those funds towards essential social services that are often underfunded, such as housing, education, employment,….”

+++++

Sounds like the Left want fewer police to me.

Personally while I like the idea of lower taxes the thought of fewer police and more money burned on social spending doesnt make me feel all warm and fuzzy.
And I’m sure if the same BLM or MAGA mobs were approaching your business, home or family with larcenous intent…..you’d be screeching for the police.
As for me being “part of the problem”.
Sorry.
I live by the rules, I pay exorbitant personal and business taxes to help repay the massive debt the politicians defecate against the Budget wall and , more importantly, I dont suck off the govt teat as do most unemployed, welfare, hairy anarchists.

Trump is an idiot and Karma is going to come to him in the form of so many different lawsuits from so many different directions … even Rudy will be whimpering in fear.

Trump, bankrupt, imprisoned, shunned…
I can dream.

#126 TurnerNation on 01.06.21 at 7:26 pm

Time for the USA Balanced Portfolio?:
KJV, S&W and AU.
:-)

Hey what does the little ole’ IMF have to say. While you were distracted by the theatre on the telescreens.

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2020/06/03/sp060320-remarks-to-world-economic-forum-the-great-reset
“This is the moment to decide that history will look back on this as the Great Reset, not the Great Reversal. ”

….
How long will this all be lasting?
From April 2020 the IMF plan. Page 6. Financial aid is planned until March 2025!
Yep this is the New System rolled out overnight in March. As per this document the countries affected are: “World”. Do you really need more evidence?

http://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/en/993371585947965984/pdf/World-COVID-19-Strategic-Preparedness-and-Response-Project.pdf

Country(ies)
World

Project Name
COVID-19 Strategic Preparedness and Response Program (SPRP)

Expected Project Approval
Date
02-Apr-2020

Expected Project Closing
Date
31-Mar-2025

#127 Habitt on 01.06.21 at 7:27 pm

That’s right. Insurrection is always bad lol.

#128 Sail Away on 01.06.21 at 7:29 pm

#101 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 6:42 pm
@#24 IHCTD9 on 01.06.21 at 3:59 pm

I am beside myself with laughter.

“188 Ustabe” “I am absolutely appalled at this exchange! “. Ha ha! It’s like Captain Renard in Casablanca blowing the whistle and crying out ” I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here …”. And the other exchanges that follow, especially the ones from the principal target to be voted off the island. “On the verge of tears” one moment and then back on the “attack” the next. True to his form. Would have made an excellent soldier in the last big war. At your feet or at your throat, I think was the popular quote to describe their behaviour.

Sail Away, don’t be dismayed by this reference to Venezuela. I was once kissed on the check by Maduro in a hotel lobby after a press conference.

———

Yes, Ustabe can be a bit dramatic. I visualize him gasping ‘appalled’ theatrically as his eyes roll back and he faints to the floor in a pile of white chiffon.

And sometimes one must fight through their tears.

Such drama at the Capitol. If the protesters remain relatively nonviolent and disperse, all will be well. If they become destructive and violent, then by all means unleash the dogs of war. No political ideology gets to push their agenda through force.

#129 Reality is stark on 01.06.21 at 7:37 pm

The great Kurt Richebacher was always right. Selling homes to one another does not make an economy. I worked as a white collar worker in manufacturing. The Chinese are still taking manufacturing jobs. They are being replaced with no skill distribution jobs. We are being hollowed out and McConnell and Biden have close Chinese affiliations. They have blood on their hands.
I guarantee you your children will have much more limited opportunities.
Pandemics are not a predecessor of rapid GDP growth. Just as outrageous suffering may spur some on to greatness the majority are affected by a lifetime of trauma.
Too bad the USA didn’t elect a man like Hunter Harrison. He might have been 10 times meaner than Trump but he would have been terrific for the long term health of the US economy. He would have told China to go to hell early on.

#130 Linda on 01.06.21 at 7:40 pm

#31 ‘Peter’ – an interesting point regarding quarantines given the speed with which pathogens can be transmitted world wide these days. Back in the ‘good old days’ immigrants were frequently kept in isolation for a period to prevent them bringing infections into the local community at large. This was however status based; the poor were kept isolated, the wealthy in general breezed through unless they were visibly infectious & even then might not be subject to quarantine. ‘Money talks’ was as true then as it is now. Our society today is used to being able to go where & when they wish; witness the resentment & outright defiance of so much as wearing a mask expressed by many today. Even at the start of the pandemic lockdowns, the wealthy were traveling in defiance of same & expected to not have to comply to those pesky travel restrictions.

So while imposing quarantine restrictions upon travelers going forward might be wise, I think it will not do anything other than irritate the many while protecting not at all. It depends on no one circumventing the safety measures. That hasn’t worked in all of human history. Human trafficking, refugees, smugglers, anyone who thinks they are above complying with the rules will ensure another outbreak will eventually occur. Heck, could even be brought in by birds, insects or animals. Human society has also gotten used to not dying due to infectious diseases. Could be we are going to have to get used to living like our ancestors did in more ways than one.

#131 Barb on 01.06.21 at 7:51 pm

Trump’s niece, Mary L. Trump, is correct: he’s the world’s most dangerous man.

Just finished her book “Too Much and Never Enough”, 214 pages about her despicable uncle and how he became the way he is. And who supported him all along. The word dysfunctional must be ALL CAPS when detailing the family’s history.

#132 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 7:52 pm

NBC is now reporting that the House will move to impeach amd immediately remove Trump. Might seem like too little, too late, and it is – but as we’ve seen, even one day matters.

better late than never.

#133 Sail Away on 01.06.21 at 7:54 pm

#75 Faron on 01.06.21 at 5:49 pm
#56 Sail away on 01.06.21 at 4:53 pm

Your only statement when the country, that you at one time potentially put your life on the line for, is subject to a right wing insurrection is a crappy one-off about defund the police, a movement you don’t even understand? Meanwhile, the police have happily allowed the demonstrators to trespass on the non-public parts of the capital in stark contrast to the flash grenades and very harsh tactics deployed against peaceful protesters outside the white house to clear the crowd from public streets so Trump could get a photo op at a church that despises him? And you wonder why the far left calls to alter the police force (the true meaning behind the horrible termed defund the police movement)? There’s nothing childish about calling feces feces and if it takes invective to do so, that’s fine. It’s the ones like yourself who are too dainty to acknowledge the crap on their face that are to be feared.

———-

Oh my. So rant-a-licious.

Summary: You baddy! Fabricate, curse, insult, denigrate.

#134 Yukon Elvis on 01.06.21 at 7:55 pm

For four years the Dems and the media insisted day after day after day that Russia interfered with the 2016 election and that Trump was a Russian agent and that Hillary and the Dems were cheated. For four years they pissed and moaned. Now the Republicans are crying foul about an election and no one wants to hear it. And people are being called all sorts of names and even being punted from pathetic blogs for pointing it out. Strange world we live in.

#135 Long-Time Lurker on 01.06.21 at 7:57 pm

There is plenty of video evidence of what happened at Washington, D.C. today. I watched it on Twitter. The breaking of the window, the getting past the fence, and more.

#136 Dan on 01.06.21 at 7:58 pm

I dont understand why Garth is claiming I told you so on buying a condo. I think it’s a little premature. I like your writing and insights but it’s not like condos have been selling at bargain basement prices, if I were to buy one as an investment for 500k I could currently rent for about $1800 with repayments, taxes and maintenance I’ll be contributing about $700 extra a month. Hasn’t This been the objective of this blog to warn people not to do this?

Nowhere did I tell you to buy. – Garth

#137 jess on 01.06.21 at 8:00 pm

i thought this phrase would be voted most cringe worthy 2020 phrase

“Let me be clear,”

#138 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 8:01 pm

“Meanwhile in Québec, four more weeks of lockdown. Calling it an electroshock against the spread: nightly curfews with fines up to $6000 for offenders. Will we see something similar to convince people to get jabbed??”

Can you say “draconian?”

#139 Kato on 01.06.21 at 8:02 pm

RE: Defunding the police, if the goal is to take money from departments and hire nurses and social workers, it can only result in 3 things:

1) Fewer officers;
2) Less training for officers; and/or
3) Less pay for officers.

RE: today’s stupidity, with all the efforts to “protect federal buildings” in Oregon and Washington, you’d think they could’ve had a few teams of Marshals dressed and ready to hold the line at the bloody Capitol building!

#140 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 8:07 pm

#99 SeeB on 01.06.21 at 6:32 pm

I’m not normalizing today’s events. As I explained in my first post, this has been building for a long, long time including that election. I was merely pointing out that election fraud was called then and the Supreme Court laid it to rest, whereas, the Supreme Court “deferred” it this time. They have a lot to answer for in my humble, somewhat informed opinion. Yes, Trump is instigating but he has the legal right to do it and SCOTUS has the obligation to hear the case. They didn’t and now the price is being paid however wrongly.

#141 Joseph R. on 01.06.21 at 8:07 pm

#123 Michael in-north-york on 01.06.21 at 7:21 pm

” In the communist system, the bailouts go on for decades, and affect a much larger % of companies.”

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There are no “companies” in a communist system. If you see bailouts in your society, it means you do not live in a communist society.

Do you know what “communism” means?

#142 zee on 01.06.21 at 8:10 pm

What is taking place in America just shows that the people of North America are not any more civilized as they always claim to be and look down on others in other parts of the world.

#143 I'm Alright Jack on 01.06.21 at 8:13 pm

Quite the show on Capitol Hill today – almost as bad as the Canucks losing a playoff series (almost, but not quite).

But a good pop in US stocks today, although the Nasdaq appears to be running out of steam. Time to take some profits before the socialist hoards take over in the US. government.

#144 Nonplused on 01.06.21 at 8:19 pm

#147 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 10:09 am
2 weeks today and the Orange Orangutan has the Presidential plane, and all the accoutrements of office stripped from him.
A ranting and raging man/child finally reaches the point where all his bullying, bs and bravado wont help him.
A classless, loser who’s lickspittles will fade away as he throws them all under the bus, one by one.

Any bets on Melania filing for divorce this year and writing a “tell all” book?

———————————-

Trump has his own plane, 727 I believe so not your regular private jet. And I bet he has a hell of a prenup because he is not new to divorce. So long as he can stay out of jail, don’t worry for the Donald.

#145 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 8:23 pm

@#189 Lorne
” Just a little bit easier and FASTER than getting things to Yellowknife, Nunavut, St. John’ etc. ”

++++

Gee, how convenient
You named all the towns with miniscule populations in the middle of no where.
Hows about the big cities that are still waiting for the jab fest to get rolling…..

I was thinking of Toronto, Montreal, vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg where the jet, the trucks and the refrigerators are either full of vaccines that the ‘ditherers” havent sent out yet….
“Yoo Hoo can someone FedEx this priority package to the local Old Folks Home? They need their vaccine.”
As someone stated yesterday.
We have 36,000,000 people and 360 days left in the year.
100,000 PER DAY is required.
And Justin is saying we’ll have the majority jabbed by Sept.
At the rate they are going……
Delusional.

#146 Nonplused on 01.06.21 at 8:24 pm

#116 Sold Out on 01.06.21 at 7:05 pm
Anyone who vocally supported the Mango Menace, who refused to believe he’s a sociopath, who claimed everyone else had TDS, should take a vow of blog silence for the next 4 years. Where’s that Bytor idiot? He should get 8 years silence.

——————————–

You know who likes to silence dissenting opinions? Dictators. I think Garth’s posting rules are good enough, although from time to time he also takes editorial license. But it is his blog so he can do that.

#147 Chris Haisley on 01.06.21 at 8:40 pm

My sister died of cancer 5 years ago nobody cared. Who cares if anyone dies of corona virus. This is so hyped up and fear mongering. You know what the word government means, govern mind. It is Latin.

Do you see why they don’t want Latin studied in school after the 1970’s. Dumb down people. This is mainly about power and abuse of it.

#148 Ben Dover on 01.06.21 at 8:42 pm

#44 Prince Polo on 01.06.21 at 4:38 pm

What an epic failure of leadership. Frail ego’d Trump has the opportunity to call for law & order, but ends up playing the “election was stolen” card. Who is still here to say that he is presidential? Disgusting, sickening, and pathetic, is more like it

You missed the point by a football field … they never wanted “presidential”.

Been there, had that. They didnt want that … and nearly didn’t get that again in November.

Think of it as a warning shot to the Democrats! It could and will happen again if 70 million people still feel disenfranchised in 2024! And with Trump setting the precedent, his replacement could make him look like a saint, especially if the Orange-utan backs him!

#149 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 8:47 pm

#113 Faron on 01.06.21 at 6:55 pm
#103 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 6:43 pm

Oh crap, that was supposed to read kissed on the cheek..lol Always thinking money!

Or it’s the schnapps… Schlum tymes the kleybroad gesh blurry wen I drynk to mush too.

++++

Well, guess you would be an authority on the subject for once given your recent trashing of your mother and her own habits.

Would you like me to tell you when your girlfriend will leave you and why? Or has it already happened?

#150 SWL on 01.06.21 at 8:50 pm

#145 SunShowers

So, by spending my hard-earned money at countless local establishments over the years, I can say with confidence that I’ve created hundreds of jobs. How many people work at your pizza shop?

————————

Wow, just wow. Don’t fall off your high horse, you might spill your bong water

Since you laid it out like that I hope that you practice what you preach and have never purchased anything built in China, India, any third world countries, or from unethical sources. Only union made. Otherwise like your handle here you’re nothing more that a walking talking contradiction

You never did answer my question, but I’ll answer yours we employ between 5-7 people directly, excluding the money I also spend on a daily basis. My guess you’re on some form of government dole, whether or not you go to an office to get it is another question.

Cheers

#151 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 8:51 pm

Apologies to fellow bloggers, for that was a little mean, but I am sick of this little troll and wish him a speedy departure from this blog.

#152 Eat this! Not that! on 01.06.21 at 8:51 pm

#100 dee on 01.06.21 at 6:36 pm

Garth i am really concerned about my health here in Canada. I have noticed there are many countries where the risk of dying of covid is lower …..
. So do you think now will be the best time to sell my place or when do you personally think the height of the market will hit?

___________________

Funniest comment I’ve read in some time.

Garth, i’m really, really worried about dying from Covid …. but I can’t leave right now because the housing market might not be at its peak!

Dee, I promise I’ll visit you on your deathbed and let you know how much money you made! You lot are truly a pathetic bunch!

#153 yvr_lurker on 01.06.21 at 8:52 pm

#130 Too bad the USA didn’t elect a man like Hunter Harrison. He might have been 10 times meaner than Trump but he would have been terrific for the long term health of the US economy. He would have told China to go to hell early on.
—————–

I fully agree here that the G7 needs to open their eyes to the real China. The China that will deflect, obfuscate, and spin their way out of researchers from the WHO really trying to understand the scientific origins of COVID.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55555466

Without any real clear understanding of how this happened (no blame here..), we will be running blind as to what measures need to be put in place to reduce the risk of a re-occurence in the near-term. Seems really imperative to get to the bottom of it. Otherwise, without their cooperation, we will really need clear social distancing from them going forward. If T2 is weak on this point, it will seal my vote.

#154 SeeB on 01.06.21 at 8:53 pm

Sounds like the Left want fewer police to me.

You are choosing to see that because your agrument requires it. It’s a strawman that lets you use the “your home family and business” argument and appeal to fear. That fear is what you, and the business and political leaders in Washington used to keep poor people in line. They are unemployed, welfare, hairy anarchists, while you are a distinguished business person that doesn’t suck off the gov’t teat…

Well those people in the States are dying and suffering because they can’t find work since they’ve all been shipped overseas. Or they are working the crappy jobs yet still need to collect welfare to put food on the table.

It’s happening here too in Canada, and we got a few extra cushions to soften the shift, but you, and others of your class, resent the taxes that pay for those cushions, and support a political ideology with a long term plan to dismantle them.

Arguing with you doesn’t matter. You are invested in the system that allowed you to succeed while countless others suffer. Why would you argue against your own interests. In the end, either the “left” is coming or fascism is coming. Regular working and poor people are tired of rich leeches proping up lying politicians, and Trump capitalized on it. The next guy might actually have a plan.

#155 Defund the Grammar Police on 01.06.21 at 8:58 pm

#80 Grammar Police

“Of course, the rules of the English language are always evolving, and “snuck” has sneaked its way into our American lexicon. It’s considered the nonstandard past tense—basically meaning that “sneaked” is the preferred word-choice, but “snuck” is also acceptable.”

So, in other words … SNUCK you!

#156 Sandy Dianne on 01.06.21 at 8:58 pm

Joseph R. the government owns everything or almost everything in a communist system. The USSR, 97% owned by the state, 3% private property. The point Michael in north york is making is there are food shortages to every possible crappy outcome for the majority of the population.

In the USSR, only 18 million bureaucrats lived decent, much better out of 287 million total population just before it’s collapse in 1989. This means just over 6% lived off the misery, suffering, starvation etc. of the other 94% of USSR’s population.

#157 Reximus on 01.06.21 at 9:08 pm

“Stocks Rally 437 Points on Breakdown of Civil Society”

Well then, I bet killer bees could push us over 33,000

Rally was for Dem stimulus. Trump is a sad sideshow. – Garth

#158 Stone on 01.06.21 at 9:26 pm

Civilization is just a thin veneer.

Meanwhile, in the land of balance and diversification, I sit back and do nothing with my B&D portfolio. It’s up 1.35% YTD. I think it will go higher tomorrow.

Yawn…

#159 FriedEggs on 01.06.21 at 9:33 pm

So much for that fake (PMO) document from October 15/2020. Lockdowns, Mutations, Curfews, etc.

Its a complete miss – nothing came true so far.

Repost it so we can make fun of it.

#160 KLNR on 01.06.21 at 9:35 pm

Trump is going to lose his mind with no twitter access.
whatever is left of it.

#161 Prince Polo on 01.06.21 at 9:36 pm

#141 Tron Light on 01.06.21 at 8:07 pm
#99 SeeB on 01.06.21 at 6:32 pm

“…Yes, Trump is instigating but he has the legal right to do it and SCOTUS has the obligation to hear the case. They didn’t….”
=================================
You just contradicted yourself. If SCOTUS has the obligation to hear the case, they would have. Seeing as they didn’t, the obligation that you claim exists, is actually imaginary.

Words matter, bro. Shameful that the current president doesn’t understand the gravitas that the POTUS office affords him, nor the nuance required to yield such power.

#162 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 9:38 pm

@#132 Barb
“Trump’s niece, Mary L. Trump, is correct: he’s the world’s most dangerous man.
Just finished her book “Too Much and Never Enough”, 214 pages about her despicable uncle and how he became the way he is…..”

++++

Yep.
Read the book back in Sept before the election.
An interesting viewpoint from an intimate family insider with tons of personal stories who also has her Phd in Psychiatry to connect the dots…..
A very enjoyable read that explains Trumps bizarre view of himself and the world.

‘”The election was stolen from ME! ”
As the country dies from Covid…….

#163 Love_The_Cottage on 01.06.21 at 9:50 pm

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

#164 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 9:52 pm

@#153 KLNR
“Trump is going to lose his mind with no twitter access.”

++++
Like thats a loss.
The sooner the better.
2 weeks and he’s done unless the pissed off Senate and Congress use article 25 to boot him unceremoniously before Inauguration day.
Trump dumped and Pence as President for the final days in office, shaking President Bidens hand on the podium Jan 20th.
Dump the Orange Orangutan
THAT would be awesome.
The best of worlds

#165 Love_The_Cottage on 01.06.21 at 9:56 pm

Don’t follow leaders, watch the parkin’ meters

#166 paulo on 01.06.21 at 10:07 pm

I think it is time to invoke article/ section 25 of the constitution and get the orange nut job relieved and removed from office asap. lon
g over due.

#167 Prince Polo on 01.06.21 at 10:13 pm

#149 Ben Dover on 01.06.21 at 8:42 pm
#44 Prince Polo on 01.06.21 at 4:38 pm
You missed the point by a football field … they never wanted “presidential”.

Been there, had that. They didnt want that … and nearly didn’t get that again in November.

Think of it as a warning shot to the Democrats! It could and will happen again if 70 million people still feel disenfranchised in 2024! And with Trump setting the precedent, his replacement could make him look like a saint, especially if the Orange-utan backs him.

==================================
Thanks for clarifying! Seems like supporters were lapping up how easy it was to be more presidential than any previous POTUS:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=soOD9Xpw57Q

While I do agree that some citizens are feeling disenfranchised (this is a problem way beyond my pay grade), why are there no centrists in the 70M pool that might think twice before voting for a “scorched Earth” president in the future? Surely, we can agree that majority of people want a centrist government that actually gets things done on their behalf?

#168 DON on 01.06.21 at 10:14 pm

#103 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 6:42 pm

Before I go:
@#7 Tua the Redeemer on 01.06.21 at 3:22 pm

“With the white collar layoffs that are coming this month, I think there might be a bit of a dampening effect come in the spring. Many of the big companies didn’t do any layoffs last year and pledged not too for 2020. Well, it’s 2021 and the bloodletting begins this month. Take the usual 3-5% trims, plus the folks who’ve shown they can’t work from home, and there will be a bunch of people worried about where their next pay check is going to come from.”———–

I think you are on the right track, Tua. This kind of echos what Don from the Big Isle of Van said the other day. That other shoe hasn’t really dropped yet, whatever Mr. Real Estate Market has to say about things. Cheers! Where are the schnapps and the newscast!

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I had forgotten about the postponed layoffs from last year…factor that in….Yikes! I need a Scooby treat.

#169 Yukon Elvis on 01.06.21 at 10:14 pm

#158 Reximus on 01.06.21 at 9:08 pm
“Stocks Rally 437 Points on Breakdown of Civil Society”

Well then, I bet killer bees could push us over 33,000

Rally was for Dem stimulus. Trump is a sad sideshow. – Garth
……………………..

Nice little rally. I wonder what will happen when Biden raises taxes and increases regulations.

#170 LeeB on 01.06.21 at 10:20 pm

Stan Brooks #18 Stan Brooks on 01.06.21 at 3:56 pm

Sorry to say Stan – you are a dick. Without trying very hard either. I would have deleted you. Tell me – do you get the same feedback at the office or your in-laws ? I really hope you don’t own a dog.

#171 Sara on 01.06.21 at 10:32 pm

#152 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 8:51 pm
Apologies to fellow bloggers, for that was a little mean, but I am sick of this little troll and wish him a speedy departure from this blog.

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Just because you think differently than Faron, doesn’t make him a troll. If you want an example of a troll – someone who gets off on upsetting others in online forums – Sail Away would be a perfect example.

#172 DON on 01.06.21 at 10:39 pm

Sail away and Faron. FFS agree to disagree and leatn something from one another. A sail away tempered by a Faron.

You both are at fault. Sail for chumming the waters and poking and Faron for locking on like a pit bull and pressing buttons…be it based on facts your powers of deduction are over the top. The truth lies somewhere in between both of your views. Not on an extreme or counter argument.

Time to step back and cool off boys. Garth preaches balance and diversification as an approach to all aspects of life.

#173 NFN_NLN on 01.06.21 at 10:42 pm

House, Senate, President, Media, Tech firms, and Federal Reserve are all Democrat run now. It appears they will implement whatever laws or plans they want with no checks or balances, exactly how the founding fathers wanted it.

We will soon be living in the utopia we deserve.

#174 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.06.21 at 10:44 pm

I support China to come over and take over US. Communism all the way. Biden will give China everything away, land, military, farms, women away. So happy. And destroy the wall and let in millions of illegals and US will pay them free welfare, health care, everything. Time to celebrate. I love freebie leeches and I’m one of them. Me go to the US to get free welfare cheques and housing whereas all of you will work 90 hour weeks with no overtime to support my important lifestyle. Democrats, Biden, Harris all the way. Make America great again for welfare & illegals.
Just make all illegals legal, solves the illegal problem. So easy.

#175 Faron on 01.06.21 at 11:02 pm

#147 Nonplused on 01.06.21 at 8:24 pm

You know who likes to silence dissenting opinions?

Yes, the Jaguar. Cf yesterday’s comments.

#176 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.06.21 at 11:03 pm

#182 the jaguar on 01.06.21 at 2:46 pm
Garth: can please advise on what would be needed to organize and vote someone off the blog..? Similar to voting someone off the island on the old tv show Survivor?
Name and shame. If there is support, he/she will
thrown overboard. – Garth
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Overboard?
I can only count two sailors on this blog .
Fisherman and Sailo.
Fisherman is quite a nice guy.
Sailo, my friend, You get the hint?

#177 SWL on 01.06.21 at 11:15 pm

Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times

Guess where Canada’s people kind is at in the above cycle

#130 Reality is stark Has it figured out. China has been slowly eating our lunch for decades while somewhat playing nice only to learn all our manufacturing competitive advantages. Sadly Canada’s manufacturing sector has been hollowed out and it’s going to become quite apparent in the coming years we were asleep at the wheel

Expect less, you won’t be disappointed

#178 millmech on 01.06.21 at 11:21 pm

#139 Tron Light
Nice, four more weeks of lockdowns and death because of incompetence by our leadership, I guess this is on their hands now, Israel already has a million people jabbed and were at 150,000.
As for getting the old the jab, tell them to commit a crime if they can, because prisoners are a higher priority than the old, who have been in lockdown just like the federal inmates. Paul Bernardo is a higher priority than our most vulnerable for the vaccination, what an awesome country we live in.

#179 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.06.21 at 11:33 pm

#152 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 8:51 pm
Apologies to fellow bloggers, for that was a little mean, but I am sick of this little troll and wish him a speedy departure from this blog.
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There are much bigger trolls like CEF and Sailo.

#180 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.06.21 at 11:38 pm

Bernie delivered the left and young voters.
Let’s see if he get’s rewarded with the Speaker of the Senate?

#181 Ael Idich on 01.07.21 at 12:12 am

Dear North American leaders,

Please stop screwing around. We have a civilization to save and preserve.

Respectfully,

Ael Idich

PS. Houses in Washington DC are nice, but not as nice as in Vienna. Both cost too much.

#182 Diamond Dog on 01.07.21 at 12:17 am

Rally was for Dem stimulus. Trump is a sad sideshow. – Garth

Yep. The sideshow is here for 2 more weeks though. I doubt that this will move the needle of the markets because this “stunt” and riot won’t change much but the sideshow will continue. There will likely be resignations from WH aids tomorrow morning that sets the tone for tomorrow’s news cycle fallout.

The 6 Senators and the Republican congress that voted to nullify the electoral college vote are about to find out the price to their treason by way of dried up election funding. We are likely to see the 25th amendment invoked before inauguration day as Trump continues to be seen as more treasonous with each day. (Trumpers need to wake up, he always was)

The Republican party has just become openly divided today and what people don’t realize is that the Republican party isn’t controlled by Trump’s “base” if one can call it that. Quite the opposite, it’s controlled by individuals of wealth and power, solidified by the rule of law. Trump was their puppet and that’s all changed as of today. These senators just committed political suicide:

Sen. Ted Cruz
Sen. Josh Hawley
Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith
Sen. Roger Marshall
Sen. John Kennedy
Sen. Tommy Tuberville

They will be contested in primaries if they make it to re-election and will lose badly. Media will turn on them because money will turn on them. Each one of these names committed political suicide today. There were 14 names originally but 8 wised up and these 8 may still be on the skids. As the names of the Republican congress come out that voted to oppose election results, they too will find out the cost of supporting open treason.

This was no ordinary riot. Bombs were found inside the Capitol building. A woman was shot and died, a truck was found near the building with Molotov cocktails and some might easily dismiss this because people get shot every day in the states and riots are common at least, with a Trump presidency… but it’s not just the riot detail. This is an international black eye on America’s reputation and democracy itself and the most powerful supporters of the Republican party won’t stand for this. The Republican party is openly divided and there will be a flush, beginning with Trump. The Georgia call was enough grounds to impeach him but with this riot Trump inspired, Trump is done over this now.

It might be hard for Trump supporters to fathom, but Nixon, a proven crook right, Nixon still had 33% support or some crazy number when Nixon was impeached. The conversation with the 25th amendment is quite real now as lines of power and reputation have been crossed. If it comes out for example, that Trump was behind lax security at the capitol building as Trump coordinated with individuals like Alex Jones, Roger Stone and Mike Flynn to foment a riot at the capitol building, (it might be the case and will come out quickly if it’s so) how can Trump survive that?

The peaceful transfer of power alone is more important than people realize. The most powerful donors and individuals within the Republican party won’t ask for permission from Trump’s base to remove Trump from his presidency, it will come swift if it comes.

All I’m saying is, don’t be surprised if Trump is removed from office before the inauguration. It will be interesting to watch how Fox news covers this, as well as Mike Pence’s behavior going forward.

#183 Pete from St. Cesaire on 01.07.21 at 12:27 am

#135 Yukon Elvis on 01.06.21 at 7:55 pm
For four years the Dems and the media insisted day after day after day that Russia interfered with the 2016 election and that Trump was a Russian agent and that Hillary and the Dems were cheated. For four years they pissed and moaned. Now the Republicans are crying foul about an election and no one wants to hear it. And people are being called all sorts of names and even being punted from pathetic blogs for pointing it out.
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BINGO

#184 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.07.21 at 12:28 am

What a mess the American Presidential election system is.
By the time the new President is sworn in, it’s already time to hit the campaign trail again.
And, as for the Senate:
Is there an age limit?
No one under 70 needs to apply.
No wonder the Dems swept the Congress.

#185 son of a trickster on 01.07.21 at 12:39 am

LOL condos prices are going down, down, down……oh too late they all sold, prices going back up, up, up! We’ve been waiting for lower prices for 20 years, always seems too expensive.That was the shortest downturn in history.But up they keep going! We are the greater fools!

#186 Ponzius Pilatus on 01.07.21 at 12:48 am

#158 Reximus on 01.06.21 at 9:08 pm
“Stocks Rally 437 Points on Breakdown of Civil Society”

Well then, I bet killer bees could push us over 33,000

Rally was for Dem stimulus. Trump is a sad sideshow. – Garth
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Have to admit.
Puzzles me a bit, too.
Thought that Biden bringing in Bernie and the Dems going all commie would crash the markets.
I guess, it’s all just crazy talk and the market has it all factored in already.
Mr. Market, you are a sly SOB.

#187 KG on 01.07.21 at 1:00 am

@#68 no one likes snitchers

#188 fishman on 01.07.21 at 1:09 am

The Trumpster’s “Russian School of Retreat” strategy.” Withdraw, retreat. Leave nothing of value to the enemy except cold hateful partisans (populists). All has & will be foretold by the left wing populist Michael Moore “Big Mike”. The most prescient American political pundit alive. He just gets it right, months before it happens. One learns far more studying ones enemies than one friends. If your a populist lots more sacrifices & defeats. If your Woke mind the grinding & nashing of teeth. We’re going into the extended ground game now. Keep the enamel.
On the R/E front. Coming into False Creek tonite I have never ever seen so many apt/condo lights on. This town, this month, over half the kind of people who own downtown Vancouver waterfront view properties are gone. Not anymore. Their all home now. In the boonies, buddies spread over southern half of B.C. tell me everything is plugged. No rentals. Very aggressive buyers. Any contractor that can fog a mirror & doesn’t have a miserable substance abuse problem is working.

#189 jane24 on 01.07.21 at 2:57 am

The elephant in the room is structural unemployment. Once you add up the unemployed, the under-employed, the over-educated and the folk that want FT work but can only find PT, the numbers in the western world will be staggering. These people will not be buying TO condos.

There will be a mini-boom next year as so many people I know have been paid out Covid wealth by govts but been unable to spend due to lockdowns. Then the elephant will be noticed on the corner of the room and you can’t spend your way out of this one.

#190 Joseph R. on 01.07.21 at 4:04 am

#157 Sandy Dianne on 01.06.21 at 8:58 pm
Joseph R. the government owns everything or almost everything in a communist system. The USSR, 97% owned by the state, 3% private property. The point Michael in north york is making is there are food shortages to every possible crappy outcome for the majority of the population

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I’m was under the impression that Micheal is capable of answering my question. Obviously, you believe otherwise…

My question for you is : food shortage, or any other shortages of goods are caused by break down of supply chains at one or more levels.

Can you explain to us how bailouts cause a breakdown of a supply chain?

#191 BillyBob on 01.07.21 at 4:39 am

#152 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 8:51 pm
Apologies to fellow bloggers, for that was a little mean, but I am sick of this little troll and wish him a speedy departure from this blog.

==========================

I honestly think the guy is losing his mind. Which does rightly deserve compassion, but doesn’t excuse the little attacks he still manages to muster through his tears.

Faron, would it help if I told stories about other places I’ve lived besides Prague? I have lots. You could in turn share some anecdotes about the cute barista at Serious Coffee with the calf tats and hairy pits you enthralled with your lecture on the evils of capitalism. It could be fun!

More seriously, I can barely stand to observe the reporting on the Capitol scene. One site is breathlessly calling it “a coup attempt”. If that’s the case,

Worst. Coup. Attempt. Ever.

One unarmed female “insurrectionist” shot dead by police, (3 other mysteriously unspecified fatalities) and some selfies at government desks. Not exactly Panama 1989. More like a 60’s sit-in.

Trump did incite the drama, but my oh my the likes of CNN et al are almost giggly and giddy with the excitement of stoking and fanning it along…in serious, hushed tones for the camera, of course…

The irony of the entire “attack on democracy” trope the trespassing protesters are being sold as, is that it completely ignores that the protesters are doing so precisely because many truly believe the election was an…attack on democracy.

It goes way beyond arguing over whether they have any basis to believe the election was tampered with or not. It’s the dismissiveness of the debate itself that infuriates people. As we hear over and over with certain other “movements”, people who feel powerless and manipulated will do dire things.

It’s just never going to improve if 70 million people are simply disregarded and told to “move on”. That might work in some cultures but not in America. Time to look at WHY people follow the Trumps of the world. Hint: they’re not all “low information hillbilly Proud Boys”, as is so easy to sneeringly dismiss them as.

I for one am thankful that so far it’s been mostly milling about shouting and waving flags and signs. Haven’t seen much looting and burning yet. Must be a bit of a letdown for the press, but they will spin whatever they have, as always.

#192 Sanctimonious Flopsweat on 01.07.21 at 7:26 am

Garth, a House of Congress still controlled by the Democrat Party and a House of Congress “ democratically” run are two completely different things. To infer the Democrat Party is democratic is arguable .

Love your name. Adds a note of credibility. – Garth

#193 mitzerboyakaQueencitykidd on 01.07.21 at 7:40 am

these trumpskins think that a daddies boy will stand beside them … think again

#194 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.07.21 at 8:28 am

@#174 crowdedelevatorFartz

not me, but mildly amusing all the same.
China’s patent thieves proved years ago…..
Imitation is the best form of flattery

2nd rate fartz……Could you take over my writing for a few weeks?
Trudeau and I are thinking of jetting down to Cuba (the media are much easier to control and fewer camera phones) to work on the tan before heading to Washington for the Inauguration.

After I get back, its right back to work.
No 2 week self isolating for this worker bee.
The rich dont care unless they’re caught.
I have a virus to spread and mountains of money to count.

#195 the Jaguar on 01.07.21 at 8:37 am

@#191 BillyBob on 01.07.21 at 4:39 am
#152 the Jaguar on 01.06.21 at 8:51 pm
Apologies to fellow bloggers, for that was a little mean, but I am sick of this little troll and wish him a speedy departure from this blog.
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I honestly think the guy is losing his mind. Which does rightly deserve compassion, but doesn’t excuse the little attacks he still manages to muster through his tears.
+++++++++
It’s not that he is losing his mind, though he isn’t in control of his emotions or hatred.
It’s that he is ANTIFA. His presence here is not that innocent. Note this comment from a post the other day:

“”#12 Faron on 01.04.21 at 3:46 pm
“I’ve singled out Nonplused and SA because they hold views that I take to be counter to what I view as essential to progressing as a society and that COVID has exacerbated. I single you out for often aligning with, what to me, is a detestable right to sometimes far-right groupthink and set of disinformation that poses serious risks to the stability of the US. SA, your adherence to Andy Ngo and the Post Millennial sticks in my craw for example. These veins seem to be extending slowly into Canada as expressed in this blog’s comments section.””

Notice how he mentions Andy Ngo specifically? Andy Ngo is a conservative journalist who has been covering Antifa Street protests for some time, and the ANTIFA mob attacked and beat him senseless in June 2019 because he was covering their brutality. He has testified to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Civil Liberties .

There are thugs on the left and there are thugs on the right, as evidenced by the mob in Washington yesterday, though I agree with you completely that 70 million voters cannot all be dismissed as far right deplorables and to ignore, sneer, or show contempt for them will prove dangerous for any administration.

Here is a good interview with a British journalist in the fall of 2019 that details the activities of Antifa and the beating Ngo took in Portland in the spring of 2019. Recently a Portland Judge has ruled in Ngo favour that he can go ahead with his lawsuit against Rose City ANTIFA in Portland for damages. :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkhpQNoyeRo

#196 Joseph R. on 01.07.21 at 8:39 am

135 Yukon Elvis on 01.06.21 at 7:55 pm
For four years the Dems and the media insisted day after day after day that Russia interfered with the 2016 election and that Trump was a Russian agent and that Hillary and the Dems were cheated. For four years they pissed and moaned.

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That’s why Flynn, Manafort, and many others went to jail. It wasn’t a made-up hoax.

Attacking political enemies is what Flynn and his supporters chanted “Lock her up”.

You are accusing Democrats doing what Republicans have been doing for 4 years.

#197 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.07.21 at 8:42 am

@#191 Billybob
“It’s just never going to improve if 70 million people are simply disregarded and told to “move on”. That might work in some cultures but not in America. Time to look at WHY people follow the Trumps of the world. Hint: they’re not all “low information hillbilly Proud Boys”, as is so easy to sneeringly dismiss them as.”

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Yep.
This groundswell of anger at “the elites” ( insert anyone with money, power, etc) has been building since Trumps election win against Hillary.
Trump has been a master at fanning the rage with tweets, outbursts in the media, lies, fabrications, on and on and on.
No One called him at his game.
Everyone assumed the public would tire of his incessant BS but there are a lot of angry aggrieved people out there convinced they are being screwed over.

Trump has a lot to answer to for yesterdays riot.
He and Rudy whipped that crowd into a mob with an incendiary speech and then let them loose.

The riots yesterday showed Bubbas wandering the Halls of the Capital looking rather bemused and stunned that they had actually pulled it off.
Taking selfies and videoing the building like tear gassed tourists.
The window smashing anarchists love a compliant mob to hide in.
I didnt see any guns displayed by the crowd…just the overwhelmed cops….so much for the media sensational spin “heavily armed mob”.
One rioter shot dead, several others died of …heart attacks?
Proving once again that riots, tear gas and obesity dont mix.

#198 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.07.21 at 8:48 am

@#188 fishman
“On the R/E front. Coming into False Creek tonite I have never ever seen so many apt/condo lights on. This town, this month, over half the kind of people who own downtown Vancouver waterfront view properties are gone. ”

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Dont be too sure.
Two more weeks before the hammer comes down in Vancouver for the new vacant suite by-law.
A lot of those lights are timers.
Some are on day and night.
As for vacancies, I’m seeing “For Rent” signs everywhere in Burnaby.
I’m also noticing more and more boarded up businesses with ‘For Rent” signs.

#199 Damifino on 01.07.21 at 9:05 am

#191 BillyBob

It’s just never going to improve if 70 million people are simply disregarded and told to “move on”.
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Isn’t that precisely what occurred in the previous American election? You may rightfully call the democrats crybabies but they didn’t resort to insurrection in 2016.
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A huge weakness in the American system has been waiting to reveal itself since its inception: The executive branch is contained entirely within the skull of a single actor with no reliable test for coherence.

And because psychology does not have academic equality next to mathematics and physics, there is no nationwide appreciation of the destructive potential of the sociopath mindset. That is, one that’s fundamentally irrational and in denial of any reality outside of itself.

There are mechanisms to remove a president “who can no longer fulfill the oath of office”, but no reliable criteria to quantify that occurrence.

Yesterday, we saw the logical outcome.

#200 KLNR on 01.07.21 at 9:13 am

Dark day for America yesterday.
Looks like they’re ready to move forward now though.
should probably gag trump and lock him up somewhere for the next couple weeks

#201 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 9:18 am

#173 DON on 01.06.21 at 10:39 pm

Sail away and Faron. FFS agree to disagree and leatn something from one another. A sail away tempered by a Faron.

Time to step back and cool off boys. Garth preaches balance and diversification as an approach to all aspects of life.

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Understood, and truly, Don, I’m trying to take a tempered approach.

Any attacks, name-calling, accusations leveled did not (and generally do not) come from me. I think this is important.

I served six years in the US military and fought a war for them. What is happening in the States is not acceptable… and I can say from experience the participants wete by no means prepared for a coup attempt or armed attack. It was a stupid game, and sometimes when people play stupid games, they get shot. Don’t play stupid games. I support the police and order.

#202 JB on 01.07.21 at 9:33 am

#197 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.07.21 at 8:42 am

@#191 Billybob
“It’s just never going to improve if 70 million people are simply disregarded and told to “move on”. That might work in some cultures but not in America. Time to look at WHY people follow the Trumps of the world. Hint: they’re not all “low information hillbilly Proud Boys”, as is so easy to sneeringly dismiss them as.”

++++++

Yep.
This groundswell of anger at “the elites” ( insert anyone with money, power, etc) has been building since Trumps election win against Hillary.
Trump has been a master at fanning the rage with tweets, outbursts in the media, lies, fabrications, on and on and on.
No One called him at his game.
Everyone assumed the public would tire of his incessant BS but there are a lot of angry aggrieved people out there convinced they are being screwed over.

Trump has a lot to answer to for yesterdays riot.
He and Rudy whipped that crowd into a mob with an incendiary speech and then let them loose.

The riots yesterday showed Bubbas wandering the Halls of the Capital looking rather bemused and stunned that they had actually pulled it off.
Taking selfies and videoing the building like tear gassed tourists.
The window smashing anarchists love a compliant mob to hide in.
I didnt see any guns displayed by the crowd…just the overwhelmed cops….so much for the media sensational spin “heavily armed mob”.
One rioter shot dead, several others died of …heart attacks?
Proving once again that riots, tear gas and obesity dont mix.
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Trump supporters be advised, “be careful what you wish for” It might come true and you will never be free.
What I saw yesterday was a banana republic style coup d’é·tat. These were Trump shills, the dumbest of the dumb swayed Americans whipped up by Trump, his miserable excuse for a son, and Giuliani. They are responsible for starting this and they have the blood on their hands. Trump is never the less a complete sociopath bordering now on a psychopath. Anyone who supports what we saw yesterday will one day meet their maker and have to explain why!

#203 Squire on 01.07.21 at 9:34 am

#130 Reality is stark on 01.06.21 at 7:37 pm
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Probably the best post of the night. All I see are warehouses going up. Mostly to distribute the CCP products we were too dumb to manufacture here. We reap what we sow. With Dems in full control https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/small-business-losers-georgia-runoffs the CCP are smiling from ear to ear. You doubt this ? Give your head a shake…

#204 jess on 01.07.21 at 9:40 am

sad sideshow
Four deaths and more than 50 arrests later, and the majority of that mob: white males unmasked some with guns police taking selfies ?
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As the Trump presidency unfolded, Cruz largely stood by him. After all, someone, at some point, would inherit that base of political support. Why not him?

hypocrisy is not democracy ‘Beautiful Ted” or “lyin’ Ted” what name will bestowed upon you now?
the president he once described as a “sniveling coward.”

Trump: “He’ll say whatever he wants to say. I actually think he’s a very unstable person. I really believe that. I think he’s a very unstable person. But I’ve never had somebody take something that you believe in and just say the exact opposite.”
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stated on January 6, 2021 in a speech on the Senate floor:
“39% of Americans … 31% of independents … 17% of Democrats believe the election was rigged.”
He goes on to say democracy is in crisis ….yes as he reinforces his statements with misleading poll

Cruz’s claim is based on a specific poll and the total percentage of respondents in a survey who agreed “somewhat” or “strongly” with the statement: “I am concerned that the election is rigged.”

But another question in the survey asked people more directly about their view of the election. The percentage of people who said the election outcome was “the result of illegal voting or election rigging” is much lower than the numbers Cruz cited.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/06/ted-cruz/ted-cruzs-misleading-statement-people-who-believe-/
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Sen. Tom Cotton (R- Ark.) said in a statement Trump should “quit misleading the American people.” Many have publicly blamed the president for inciting the violence.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who has aligned himself closely with Trump, said in a fiery floor speech late Wednesday that he had tried to support the president but “enough is enough.”
Capitol Rioters Planned for Weeks in Plain Sight. The Police Weren’t Ready.
possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office? that would make pence president and then he could pardon trump!
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/capitol-rioters-planned-for-weeks-in-plain-sight-the-police-werent-ready/

#205 Dharma Bum on 01.07.21 at 9:46 am

Regrettably, I have had to cancel my planned educational trip to the Smithsonian for next week.

How inconvenient.

On another note:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6WD7B_I_9c

#206 jess on 01.07.21 at 9:50 am

….. even a child could see that
that the emperor is wearing no clothes.

Trump aides gave up trying to communicate with him in the attack on the US Capitol, calling him ‘mentally unreachable,’ reports say

#207 Sara on 01.07.21 at 10:04 am

#201 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 9:18 am

“… truly, Don, I’m trying to take a tempered approach.

Any attacks, name-calling, accusations leveled did not (and generally do not) come from me. I think this is important.”

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Baloney. You have been harassing Faron and various other posters whose viewpoints differ from yours since you started posting at this blog – that is when you are not boasting about how successful you are. Garth should have kept you in “banned” status.

#208 Dogman01 on 01.07.21 at 10:06 am

Trump, for many was a middle finger to that establishment.
Biden is the establishment machine’s answer, where they ensured change like Bernie Sanders will not happen.

“It’s the dismissiveness of the debate itself that infuriates people.” – #191 BillyBob on 01.07.21 at 4:39 am

I suspect by 2024 the tensions will be so much greater, I see the MSM and there is no recognition that there must be a reason 70 Million+ would choose Trump. They recognize Trump is such an ass-hat, but they can’t seem to acknowledge that 70 Million+ actually voted for Trump over their guy.

CBC made the mistake of having this Author\commentator whom was an ex Marine commenting while the riots were in play. The commentator made the observation similar to the above and the CBC anchor went pure Jackboots- hardline trying to “correct” the commentator back to “right-think”.

#209 Diamond Dog on 01.07.21 at 10:14 am

#191 BillyBob on 01.07.21 at 4:39 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vMXOO34JGk

This was Trump’s speech to the rioters the day of the riot. It’s pretty hard to defend unless we believe his lies and many do. You said this Billybob, “It’s the dismissiveness of the debate itself that infuriates people.” This assumes that there was ever some kind of premise for a debate. Trump clearly lost the election, how can that be up for debate, unless it’s presented as such to the public as propaganda?

There was no Russian collusion, no, Trump just got away with it. There was no solicitation of foreign power influence on U.S. elections (strong arming Ukraine to make up dirt on Hunter Biden), no, Trump just got away with it. There was no election rigging with Trump’s phone call on Sunday, no, its just forgotten in the news cycle 2 weeks away from a presidential inauguration. Next thing we know, “it wasn’t really a riot, look, hardly anyone got hurt , just a few windows broken”.

That’s how it gets normalized, just minimize and exaggerate the truth and next thing you know, it didn’t happen and the next thing that’s even more shock and awe doesn’t move the needle much because it’s all normalized and expected now. We don’t think that’s how it works, watch the video of Trump speaking to the crowd pre-riot and ask yourself if Trump could have gotten away with this before getting elected in 2016. Normalized. Expected. Barely moves the needle. It’s how hate speech moves it’s way to gas chambers over time.

Lets call it what it is, its propaganda by media propping up a demagogue fomenting riot behavior to a crowd that really is uneducated and low information. Most of the people that showed up to a riot are brainwashed by what they view and hear with media propaganda and social media rabbit holes, its not anything more than this and if we really want to dig deeper as to why people are so easily led, of course its propaganda! Have we somehow forgotten how the word is defined?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

Read the definition, it speaks for itself! The U.S. has a terrible media problem because propaganda has become so mainstream and it’s feeding off of demagogues like Trump because that shit sells easy. If we don’t think so, look at the growing market share of the media that fuels Trump’s demagoguery and what circulates within social media, it speaks for itself.

#210 Dogman01 on 01.07.21 at 10:15 am

#130 Reality is stark on 01.06.21 at 7:37 pm
“Selling homes to one another does not make an economy. I worked as a white collar worker in manufacturing. The Chinese are still taking manufacturing jobs. They are being replaced with no skill distribution jobs. We are being hollowed out and McConnell and Biden have close Chinese affiliations.”

I guarantee you your children will have much more limited opportunities.

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“You can’t always measure the eventual outcome of an action by what has happened thus far. If a man jumps off a 45 storey building, nothing has really changed during the first 40 floor freefall, it’s the last few that make it interesting and we all know what the final outcome is.” – Warren Buffet

This is the root cause of Trump voters.
Under Biden, the hollowing out of USA will accelerate, Stock Market will do good but for Americans is it a bad trajectory.

This is why the youth have so few opportunities and will become radicalized.

#211 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.07.21 at 10:21 am

@#207 Sara
” You have been harassing Faron and various other posters whose viewpoints differ from yours since you started posting at this blog – that is when you are not boasting about how successful you are. Garth should have kept you in “banned” status.”

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Glad to see rational, objective discussion has, once again , escaped your grasp.

Now get back on that high horse and man ( apologies … sexist) the pc barricades against any dissenting opinions that pull you out of your safe space.

#212 IHCTD9 on 01.07.21 at 10:29 am

#191 BillyBob on 01.07.21 at 4:39 am

It’s just never going to improve if 70 million people are simply disregarded and told to “move on”. That might work in some cultures but not in America. Time to look at WHY people follow the Trumps of the world. Hint: they’re not all “low information hillbilly Proud Boys”, as is so easy to sneeringly dismiss them as.
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I like to theorize on the long game. So much has changed in the world since the 80’s, and I am leaning towards most of what is going on globally can be described as birth pains of a Type 1 Civilization.

Theoretical Physicists have already calculated a 100 year timeline for completion – if we make it. We’re 20+ years in, and what’s going on in the USA won’t be the worst of it. Much more to come.

Humans could well be the only intelligent life in the Universe. The math strongly opposes this idea, but we still have zero evidence of any kind of life at all – let alone intelligent, despite the fact that the universe should be absolutely teeming with life. This is the “Fermi Paradox”.

If we aren’t the only ones, then “The Great Filter” may come to bear on humanity as it evidently did on every other advanced lifeform that has ever existed. It may be an evolutionary force ultimately. Maybe we don’t get to leave our birth planets…

Back to transitioning to Type 1 – it’s the most dangerous transition an advanced civilization will eventually attempt. We are still divided on many fronts, but now for the first time, we have the power to destroy all that lives. This is the point where most theorists see the “Filter” doing its job. The total destruction and regression of a lifeform and its planet, preventing any future advancement.

When I think of a global Type 1 Civilization, I am reminded of an old verse:

“But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The LORD said, ‘If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.”

If we achieve a global Type 1 Civilization, the above verse will accurately describe what humanity is capable of under the right conditions. Achieving Type 1 is universally seen as the springboard to the stars – and we have to go, there is no other option if we hope to survive as a species. Everything on earth is doomed, except perhaps, us. In fact, given a few billion years of advancement, Humans could not be destroyed by any force in the universe. We would control, and harness all of it.

Everything gets better for us when we combine forces, always has been, always will be – but the transition is what you see right across the world today. We can’t stop it because we did not set it in motion, we can only manage ourselves.

When you read the news, keep these in mind: Strife pertaining to borders, culture, politics, religion, identity, class, wealth, prosperity, race, – all the things that divide us. These are all you see in the news today, these are the birth pains. Everything else is already in motion, combining humanity is really the last (perhaps fatal) hurdle.

#213 IHCTD9 on 01.07.21 at 10:30 am

Holy, sorry for the book ^

#214 Sara on 01.07.21 at 10:43 am

#209 Diamond Dog

Yup! And attempts to shut down such propaganda are countered with “but freedom of speech”.

What is the solution? Education, so that people can discern fact from fiction?

#215 Armpit on 01.07.21 at 10:45 am

The next 13 days will be as tense as the Bay of Pigs Crisis.

#216 Calgary rip off on 01.07.21 at 10:56 am

The capital D.C. invasion was a long time coming. I remember voting for Al Gore who won the popular vote in 2000. The next day the electoral college certified the win of George Bush. 9/11 likely wouldnt have happened if Gore had been in. And the illegal Iraq invasion would definitely not have happened. At the time I had married a Canadian in 2000 after meeting her online after drinking too much Vodka one night and responding to her ad. “Whats wrong with a big ass?” I typed in response to her ad. Apparently she liked my sarcasm and about 9 months we were married. Later in 2003 I felt things were bad in America in terms of economy. My wife was homesick. We left. I was called a traitor by clients I had in Texas at the time. The United States is a corrupt country. This is why I laugh when China and Russia are not trusted by many Americans. Having grown up in USA, the country isnt represented well by the idiots who invaded the capitol last night. I grew up in the north. Confederate flag? The confederates were crushed in the Civil War. That flag has no relevance to anything. The United States currently is run like a third world dump. Expensive health care. IRS run by criminals. Corrupt cops. Corrupt politicians. This isnt news that the entire thing is a mess. I remember watching George Bush senior on the tv while eating my meal at Haggett Hall dorm UW seattle in 1990, fall. Im glad to be a Canadian. I was watching “Symphony of Destruction” by Megadeth last night. Very good prediction by Dave Mustaine in 1991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZbvV5Nzw0
Canada is run better. And the electoral college is a circus.

Keep the Canadian intel coming Garth.

#217 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 10:59 am

#207 Sara on 01.07.21 at 10:04 am
#201 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 9:18 am

“… truly, Don, I’m trying to take a tempered approach.

Any attacks, name-calling, accusations leveled did not (and generally do not) come from me. I think this is important.”

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Baloney. You have been harassing Faron and various other posters whose viewpoints differ from yours since you started posting at this blog – that is when you are not boasting about how successful you are. Garth should have kept you in “banned” status.

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Hi Sara! Spot on, my dear, spot on.

#218 Oakville Rocks! on 01.07.21 at 11:10 am

No shock, so much nonsense here by those who are still under the delusion that Trump represented a forgotten America.

Trump in his life only ever represented Trump and his interests. Thats it – all else is demagoguery.

70 million may have voted Trump but it is complete nonsense to suggest 70 million support him or support his continued denial of his election loss. Many of the Trump votes were simply Republican voters and many voted their pocketbook because they believed Trump to be the better option. Pretty sure there were not 70 million on the streets across America protesting yesterday.

But the most awful of this nonsense is the suggestion that Trump was tough on China. China has never been so lucky as to have an American President like Trump. Relations with allies are at an all time low and American democracy and superiority looks broken and incompetent in the face of Covid and the Washington debacle. Trump talked tough on China but behind closed doors secretly sought short term trade deals to help win the election. Trump was willing to sell out the US to bolster his chances of winning the election.

There is no stopping China’s rise as the #1 economy. The only strategy that can contain China involves recruiting allies to negotiate trade deals with China that affect all free market economies. China would be happy to deal with a fractured world order where they can deal one on one with nations. A Biden administration that seeks to mend fences with allies before confronting China is what China fears the most.

It is not a coincidence that China started its Hong Kong crackdown under the Trump administration and stepped up those plans yesterday by arresting the pro-democracy movements most important people.

I am digging Bret Stephens column in the NY Times – he is right on and I wish it were so that there were more Republicans with the back bone to stand up to Trump.

Yesterday – what a sad day for the US but I am encouraged by the Georgia republicans that had the courage to tell the President no.

#219 jess on 01.07.21 at 11:12 am

huh ? someone said: “Lets call it what it is, its propaganda by media ”

A QShaman? From Arizona?
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FBI asks public for help identifying Capitol rioters. This one is easy!

jake Angeli, an Arizona man and ardent believer in the QAnon conspiracy theories (some call him the Q Shaman) whom I met in Phoenix. He’s easily recognizable with his cape, staff and goat’s antlers.A well-known QAnon influencer dubbed the ‘Q Shaman’ played a highly visible role in the Capitol siege
Known for wearing red, white, and blue face paint and a horned helmet, Angeli has become a notable figure in the QAnon conspiracy-theory movement, popping up at far-right rallies in Arizona in the last year, as The Arizona Republic reported.

On Wednesday, Angeli took photos on the Senate dais and marched through the Capitol with a megaphone.
‘QAnon Shaman’ Who Stormed Capitol Denies He Is Antifa as Conspiracy Theorists Turn on Him

https://www.newsweek.com/qshaman-washington-antifa-protest-qanon-1559599
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Rep. Gaetz, Sean Hannity and Others Suggest ‘Antifa …is behind the riots on capital hill.

#220 Sara on 01.07.21 at 11:21 am

#211 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.07.21 at 10:21 am
@#207 Sara

“Glad to see rational, objective discussion has, once again , escaped your grasp.

Now get back on that high horse and man ( apologies … sexist) the pc barricades against any dissenting opinions that pull you out of your safe space.”

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I love it when you talk dirty to me Stinky. ;)

But you aren’t nearly as good at trying to take people down as your idol Sail Away.

#221 Prince Polo on 01.07.21 at 11:22 am

We have a rockstar like Garth, at the helm here. Kudos for allowing us to post varying viewpoints, in a respectable fashion. You gain absolutely nothing from it, but you keep it up day after day. Thank you for having such a big heart!

#222 SeeB on 01.07.21 at 11:57 am

#191 BillyBob on 01.07.21 at 4:39 am

It’s just never going to improve if 70 million people are simply disregarded and told to “move on”. That might work in some cultures but not in America. Time to look at WHY people follow the Trumps of the world. Hint: they’re not all “low information hillbilly Proud Boys”, as is so easy to sneeringly dismiss them as

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Agreed, but it’s not a mystery. It’s the same problem since the 70s: All the decent manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas. The unions were busted and vilified. The public amasses crushing consumer debt since advertising is pumped in our brains 24/7. Schools and health care were defunded and made too expensive for regular folks, leading to more debt. Opiates have run rampant in their communities. All this while the mental rot of American exceptionalism blind many to the realities of what their style of capitalism has wrought.

Successful people call the poor “lazy and entitled”, which is wrong. Since these folks are by and large not lazy or entitled when it comes to work, so the opporessed need to find another reason for their predicament.

Foreign aliens, gender pronouns, and creeping communism have been sold to them as those reasons, and used to rally them to the banner of chaos. Meanwhile trump continues to collect donations to fund his legal debts.

#223 Dogman01 on 01.07.21 at 12:09 pm

#212 IHCTD9 on 01.07.21 at 10:29 am

Great big picture stuff!

Read the book Evolution by Stephen Baxter

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/66792.Evolution

Interesting description of the process, our brains got so big due to our ability to lie to others.

Spoiler: Our Machines make it out of the solar system, however we do not.

#224 Diamond Dog on 01.07.21 at 12:14 pm

#214 Sara on 01.07.21 at 10:43 am

Education sure, most definitely, through private/public education but there’s more than one answer to the equation. Some of it is in law and enforcement in the area of liable suits and class action specific to media but these are broadly applied and business in general doesn’t like more government control in any arena. Certainly there is a need for federal oversight forcing media to self police or face the consequences in a number of ways from fines to license restrictions etc. but to get rid of demagogues and do it quickly, we may see the quickest method soon.

Some of the solution is less obvious such as donor support drying up for politicians who support demagogues like Trump which is predictable and should have happened sooner, but Trump has no power to appease donors now in his presidency and is only a liability.

The National Association of Manufacturers for example, is a major advocacy and lobbying group that has a long history with lawmakers in Washington. They could well be the most powerful lobby group, I can’t say for sure but it’s logical that they would be. In terms of earnings by sector they dwarf the rest.

U.S. manufacturing is the reason why the U.S. is the largest economy in the world and the largest component is the food manufacturing industry, but it’s broad from defense to high tech, not just stuff that tries to compete in box stores with China. Anyway, their CEO is calling for Pence to invoke the 25th amendment and get rid of Trump this morning and they won’t be alone:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7559474/trump-capitol-protests-25-amendment/

At this point, it’s come down to 2 arguments. One is, with the presidential inauguration 2 weeks away “why bother”. It’s more pain in the ass than it’s worth but the other argument is, “this is America and we just don’t put up with assaults on the rule of law here, not from anyone”. It sounds ideological at first, utopian etc. but when we really think on it, what most protects the shareholder?

That’s the line that was crossed yesterday. A riot on the capitol building is a big deal, regardless of the bias opinions of those who want to minimize it. It’s a direct assault on America’s institutions, of government and the rule of law and even decency I might add and something like that, makes for a very strong argument to make an example of Trump for this. It’s not about saving the face of the Republican party anymore, it’s about saving the face of the United States of America. Whatever happens next, we witnessed the end of Trump’s career in politics and he’s done the country a favor in some ways because he’s going to take some prominent Republican names down with him.

I could end it there, but there are more shoes to drop. More resignations, more answers to questions like why the capitol building was so easily taken over. It could have been far worse. If the WH had anything to do with weakened or unprepared security before this riot, this may explain why expected resignations haven’t happened yet. Mick Mulvaney resigned this morning but others may not be so lucky as they are forced to examine their roles to invoke the 25th amendment as a more important function in public service, than resignation:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mick-mulvaney-not-surprised-25th-amendment-is-being-discussed-for-trump/ar-BB1cyB9k

#225 Damifino on 01.07.21 at 12:14 pm

#216 Calgary rip off

Canada is run better. And the electoral college is a circus.
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Canada is run by a prime minister who serves at he pleasure of a foreign queen who’s representative in Canada is appointed by the prime minister himself.

The convolution of the electoral college has nothing on us. Furthermore, Canada has only a single branch of government. (The senate is a joke.) If the party of the prime minister holds a majority the PM then ascends to the level of king.

Try selling that to an American!

#226 Faron on 01.07.21 at 12:28 pm

214 sara and 209 diamond

Education is part of it. especially regarding the young trump crowd. but that a few people who post here do not see the likes of Andy ngo for what he is. that they hew to the line that he was almost beaten to death tells another story. look at the video of Andy. he was punched once and doused with milkshake. after inciting anger in a group and aligning himself with the proud boys. he has a record of race baiting ‘journalism’. his work is tabloid worthy at best. and now we know that several otherwise intelligent and seemingly well educated posters see him as some kind of martyr. that lack of discernment is deeply troubling. its why i resorted to personal attacks on nonplused – because he kept adhering to the election fraud story as an otherwise functional society member, a line of thinking that we now have direct evidence for the toxicity of. as diamond made clear, disinformation is a problem, is hard to distinguish from diversity of opinion.and permeates even the otherwise intelligent.

and now we are watching the nascent stages of the next share wherein yesterdays avenue are normalized. i am just repeating what you said above now.

#227 Diamond Dog on 01.07.21 at 12:32 pm

https://www.nytimespost.com/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-likely-to-offer-up-to-two-years-of-protection-ceo/

It’s becoming more official now. Moderna thinks their vaccine will only be good for 2 years.

#228 SeeB on 01.07.21 at 12:35 pm

#219 jess on 01.07.21 at 11:12 am
Rep. Gaetz, Sean Hannity and Others Suggest ‘Antifa …is behind the riots on capital hill.

What do we all make of this? To me, sounds like Sean Hannity and Rep. Gaetz are gearing up for round.

#229 jess on 01.07.21 at 12:36 pm

Posted: Jan 6, 2021 / 04:54 PM EST / Updated: Jan 7, 2021 / 08:57 AM EST

WASHINGTON (WNCN) — Back in June 2020, President Donald Trump threatened protesters who toppled statues with arrest and lengthy prison sentences after a night of protests near the White House.

“I have authorized the Federal Government to arrest anyone who vandalizes or destroys any monument, statue or other such Federal property in the U.S. with up to 10 years in prison, per the Veteran’s Memorial Preservation Act, or such other laws that may be pertinent…..” Trump tweeted .

In July, the president followed up those thoughts in a tweet, calling out protesters who demonstrated against racial injustice as federal forces were deployed to Portland and threatening a minimum of 10 years in prison.

“Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don’t do it! @DHSgov,” he tweeted.

Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don’t do it! @DHSgov
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 27, 2020

Amid the violence at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday as Congress convened to certify the Electoral College vote, the president’s tweet resurfaced, in sort of a full circle fashion.
what is good for the goose is good for the gander:

https://www.cbs17.com/news/national-news/trump-tweet-threatening-prison-time-for-those-who-protest-at-federal-buildings-resurfaces-amid-capitol-hill-chaos/

..”Users on Twitter began retweeting and commenting on the July 27, 2020, remarks, many waiting to see if the president will stand by his comments in the form of prosecution and prison time for those who protested and barged into the Capitol. The tweet has since gained thousands of additional comments, retweets, and shares. “

#230 KLNR on 01.07.21 at 12:43 pm

@#222 SeeB on 01.07.21 at 11:57 am
#191 BillyBob on 01.07.21 at 4:39 am

It’s just never going to improve if 70 million people are simply disregarded and told to “move on”. That might work in some cultures but not in America. Time to look at WHY people follow the Trumps of the world. Hint: they’re not all “low information hillbilly Proud Boys”, as is so easy to sneeringly dismiss them as

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Agreed, but it’s not a mystery. It’s the same problem since the 70s: All the decent manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas. The unions were busted and vilified. The public amasses crushing consumer debt since advertising is pumped in our brains 24/7. Schools and health care were defunded and made too expensive for regular folks, leading to more debt. Opiates have run rampant in their communities. All this while the mental rot of American exceptionalism blind many to the realities of what their style of capitalism has wrought.

Successful people call the poor “lazy and entitled”, which is wrong. Since these folks are by and large not lazy or entitled when it comes to work, so the opporessed need to find another reason for their predicament.

Foreign aliens, gender pronouns, and creeping communism have been sold to them as those reasons, and used to rally them to the banner of chaos. Meanwhile trump continues to collect donations to fund his legal debts.

yup, well put.

#231 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 12:47 pm

#226 Faron on 01.07.21 at 12:28 pm
214 sara and 209 diamond

its why i resorted to personal attacks on nonplused…

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‘It’s ok,’ he said, ‘I only hit her when she deserves it.’

#232 Michael in-north-york on 01.07.21 at 12:53 pm

#142 Joseph R.: “There are no “companies” in a communist system. If you see bailouts in your society, it means you do not live in a communist society.”


Oh come on, I am aware that the original definition of communism is a hypothetical society that uses no money at all.

The system where I lived was self-defining as “socialism”. But the term “socialism” has become so broad that it requires lengthy sub-definitions to distinguish between the flavours. Therefore, the modern political science normally uses term “communism” for the economic systems where all significant property belongs to the government and there is no legal place for the free market, but the money are still in use.

And to answer your other question: “Can you explain to us how bailouts cause a breakdown of a supply chain?”

There were multiple reasons for systemic failures of the said economies. The closest example that answers your question is this:

A truck factory makes bad-quality trucks that break down too soon. The workers and the managers could improve the quality by tweaking the process, but have no incentive to do that. They can be punished if the tweaking goes wrong, but will get little or no reward if it succeeds.

The government cannot allow the factory to fail. They are bailed out indirectly, by mandating the price of their trucks higher than the fair market value, which otherwise would be lowered by the poor quality.

Those bad-quality trucks are delivered to agricultural companies. Now, those companies have enough trucks, on the books, to handle the harvest. But in practice, many of those trucks are out of service. When the harvest arrives, part of it is left in the fields to rot. The agricultural workers and managers could be held responsible for a direct neglect, but here, it’s not their fault because they got a problem with trucks. And, they have no incentive to think outside the box and find a workaround.

Now, we have less food delivered to the groceries. The government cannot allow the food prices to rise (and rightfully so within the system). So, they freeze the prices. The available food gets sold out. People line up for hours to get anything (think the covid grocery line-ups, but persistent for months and years instead of for a couple of weeks).

#233 IHCTD9 on 01.07.21 at 12:58 pm

#218 Oakville Rocks! on 01.07.21 at 11:10 am

There is no stopping China’s rise as the #1 economy.
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We’ll see how they make out when/if they make it to Western standards where consumer spending wears the pants.

For now, China’s strategy is “sell cheaper”. As a sales guy, I say this is the last strategy you want to employ, although it is the easiest. China does not produce anything that folks will pay a premium for. They don’t/can’t innovate. Way too much of what they do is reverse engineering and plain just ripping off the work of others. This strategy is a trap where moving to the next economic step is very difficult. You can also lose it all simply by being undercut by another developing nation. Staking everything on price is stupid.

Some day, when/if China finally “arrives”, Chinese companies will have to compete head on with the rest of the world for their sales. That means building high quality, innovative products that people actually want instead of cheap junk no one cares about at Walmart. China is the antithesis of quality, desirable, and innovative. It’s going to take probably 2 generations or more to fix this problem.

Look how long it took Japan to be recognized as producing high quality products. Same with S Korea – and they aren’t even quite there yet. Both Japan and SK still have big issues to deal with even so.

Possibly the worst thing for China though, is that some day – they will have to play by the rules…

#234 IHCTD9 on 01.07.21 at 1:16 pm

#223 Dogman01 on 01.07.21 at 12:09 pm
#212 IHCTD9 on 01.07.21 at 10:29 am

Great big picture stuff!

Read the book Evolution by Stephen Baxter

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/66792.Evolution

Interesting description of the process, our brains got so big due to our ability to lie to others.

Spoiler: Our Machines make it out of the solar system, however we do not.
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I’m currently working through “The Cosmos” series on Disney Plus. It really drives home how far we have come in such a short time, and how so many advancements come from out of nowhere from some of society’s least likely contenders.

2-300 more years of advancements at the pace we are at would just knock our socks off what could happen.

“The Cosmos” series had an episode that detailed Voyager 1’s exit form our solar system, so we’ve got our machines out there already!

#235 SeeB on 01.07.21 at 1:19 pm

#231 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 12:47 pm

#226 Faron on 01.07.21 at 12:28 pm
214 sara and 209 diamond

its why i resorted to personal attacks on nonplused…

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‘It’s ok,’ he said, ‘I only hit her when she deserves it.’
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So name calling on the internet is the same as spousal abuse? False equivalency much?

#236 NoName on 01.07.21 at 1:21 pm

#233 IHCTD9 on 01.07.21 at 12:58 pm

China does not produce anything that folks will pay a premium for.

how about ifones and Cautch purses?

#237 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 1:26 pm

It is important when raising dogs and children to emphasize self-restraint so they learn to regulate their actions and emotions.

As I was taught and try to model for my kids and employees: You have control of almost every situation if you handle it properly. The minute you lose control of yourself, you give authority over both the situation AND yourself to the other party.

So simple: choose whether you want to be the boss or the puppet. It also works for investing.

#238 Randy Simms on 01.07.21 at 1:29 pm

I see nobody knows much if anything about the USSR and how communism works. This is by design and you will soon learn in coming years. You don’t get it. You are not part of the club. We are all slaves and everyone’s future is going to get rough, tough and many will not make it past this decade. You will all see but will still not believe.

#239 Sharon Chang on 01.07.21 at 1:39 pm

As for China being #1 economic power. It will fizzle in the next 15 to 20 years. They will not last 40, 50 years like the US has. By the time there 2050 plan is done, it will be a second rate power at best. This is being optimistic.

Look at Japan, China will be lucky if they end up that way. A stagnant, economic malaise for decades now. Japan is only what maybe 121 million at most. China’s population is what 1.4 billion people. Good luck trying to keep economic growth in China even at 2% to 2.5% in coming decades.

#240 mike from mtl on 01.07.21 at 1:40 pm

#233 IHCTD9 on 01.07.21 at 12:58 pm

Some day, when/if China finally “arrives”, Chinese companies will have to compete head on with the rest of the world for their sales.
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That’s true from the west’s point of view but internally China has one big limiting factor – the CCP. Get too ‘big’ or too famous the CCP either gets its claws into your corp or seizes/destroys it.

Mainland China while on the most part a capitalist economy still has the ghosts of 1950s authoritarian communism. NOTHING can surpass the image of an omnipotent dictatorship and that won’t change until a probably bloody revolution.

Of course it takes two to tango. We’d not be in this stranglehold if not for our western sellouts falling for the freebies, nearly slave labour, lax laws, etc in exchange for IP theft and one stop supply chain.

#241 Sara on 01.07.21 at 1:45 pm

#222 SeeB, #224 DiamondDog, #226 Faron
Good comments.

#231 Sail Away
Good strawman.

#242 Michael in-north-york on 01.07.21 at 1:49 pm

#227 Diamond Dog: “It’s becoming more official now. Moderna thinks their vaccine will only be good for 2 years.”


“Only”? It will be a great achievement if their vaccine is good for the whole 2 years. The flu vaccines only work a for a few months.

#243 Michael in-north-york on 01.07.21 at 1:58 pm

#208 Dogman01: “Trump, for many was a middle finger to that establishment.”

Yup. Obviously, Trump is not a useful solution to any problem.

But, he is a very telling symptom.

#244 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.07.21 at 9:23 pm

@#238 Sail Away
“So simple: choose whether you want to be the boss or the puppet. It also works for investing.”

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Ahahaha.
Glad I’m finally a boss, finally an owner and an investor…. Life is good….when you’re not a puppet.

#245 David Greene on 01.07.21 at 10:15 pm

This. Definitely this. I find Sail Away one of the most offensive members here. And I find his claims of Faron baiting him are mostly projection. He baits Faron way more often.

#208 Sara on 01.07.21 at 10:04 am

#201 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 9:18 am

“… truly, Don, I’m trying to take a tempered approach.

Any attacks, name-calling, accusations leveled did not (and generally do not) come from me. I think this is important.”

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Baloney. You have been harassing Faron and various other posters whose viewpoints differ from yours since you started posting at this blog – that is when you are not boasting about how successful you are. Garth should have kept you in “banned” status.

#246 Sail Away on 01.07.21 at 11:44 pm

#245 crowdedelevatorfartz on 01.07.21 at 9:23 pm
@#238 Sail Away
“So simple: choose whether you want to be the boss or the puppet. It also works for investing.”

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Ahahaha.
Glad I’m finally a boss, finally an owner and an investor…. Life is good….when you’re not a puppet.

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Haha. Good work!