The lockdown

No vax talk today. Promise. (But I will be checking your shoulders for wee pricks in the future. And watching for the little pricks, too.)

But, sheesh, the virus stuff just gets worse. The UK is ostracized. Now Ontario’s going dark. All of it. The hospital dudes have been screaming for a circuit breaker, saying the 2,000-a-day new case count will become ten grand without it. Elective surgeries are kaput. Women are no longer getting screened for breast cancer. Cardiac patients are being sent home. And now virtually everyone in the most populous province, home of the biggest cities, highways, real estate prices, highways and egos is being iced until the end of January.

Do not underestimate the impact of this. Fifteen million people are impacted. And this comes along with lockdowns, quarantines, closures and restrictions from Montreal to Winnipeg to Vancouver (where YVR traffic is off 95%).

So, let’s ponder this. Pandemics may be temporary (this will end, trust me), but some people think the implications this time will be forever. The longer it goes on, the more imbedded changes become. And did you think back in April – when the first lockdown happened – that Christmas would be cancelled?

Nah, me neither. Too many cases. Too many dead. Too long. The whole world is being tested, and we are failing. The comment section of yesterday’s blog post proved that. If you missed it, go and read. Wear your PPE. The failure of modern leadership, and its poisonous effect, is on full display.

Now, what next?

Yeah, this will end. The vax (oops) will do that. Just wait. However there are a few trends gaining strength with every day that this hellish situation continues. Will they last?

First, less human contact. It’s what governments are trying to accomplish. No contacts = no virus. So we have shutdowns of offices, stores, eateries, churches, schools and events. In a social way, it’s incredibly destructive, leading to alcohol and drug dependence, Netflixitis, increased suicide and the kind of toxic breakdown in personal responsibility so evident here yesterday. I lament that. On a positive note, there are almost no shelter dogs left for adoption in Canada.

Second, less human contact means way more WFH. Back in the spring almost 40% of workers were sent home. This time even more. Surveys show a majority never want to go back, especially whose under 34. This is a recipe for conflict.

Third, the pandemic has exacerbated the wealth divide. Look at financial stuff, for example. Investors with balanced portfolios or exposure to stock markets have had a great year. But people depending on risk-free GICs and collecting interest have had their incomes crushed.

The divide is even worse between the WFH crowd and those whose livelihoods do not allow it. More than 80% of the people smugly Zooming in their undies and collecting full wages are in the education, government, insurance or financial sectors. (Let it be known I am wearing a tie while I type this. And pants.) But whacked have been folks depending on jobs in tourism, hospitality, travel, food service, transportation or most personal service industries. You may still be creating online lesson plans and being paid for it, but the guy who cuts hair or the saleswoman at The Bay are hurting bad.

Fourth, pandemics, less contact, lockdowns and a changing society may well lead to more automation. Machines don’t get viruses. Self-driving trucks, either. Some people think we’ll be coming out of this morass with way fewer jobs than we did before, as corporations in Canada deploy a mountain of $80 billion in cash to replace people with technology.

Fifth, this virus is slaughtering small business. Bad public decisions abound. Why let Costco and Wal-Mart stay open in red zones when hairdressers, corner stores, vets and indy clothing stores are hobbled or shuttered? It’s estimated ten thousand restaurants will not survive this. The CFIB says 160,000 small mom-and-pop businesses won’t be here in the spring. And recall that this sector creates over 90% of total employment. Do we know what we’re doing?

Sixth, odds grow the virus and public policy may kill some industries for a long time. Will Porter Airlines ever fly again? Will Toronto’s pro sport franchises return? Will there be cruise ships in Halifax or Victoria in a couple of years? How fatal will the closed US border be to tourism – one of our major industries? Will Amazon, Wayfair, Etsy and the other onliners mean local retail is finished forever?

And, seventh, what profound, lasting impact will the pandemic have on real estate? So far the worse things get the more house prices have risen, as central banks try to rescue the economy with cheap money. Family debt is exploding. Property is less affordable. Escalating real estate is also making wealth inequality more acute. The suburbs have exploded with WFH, nesting and fear of others. Urban condos and rents have been clobbered. Locals in Zoom towns where life was once rational and measured are being priced out by Covid refugees.

This is our world now. Locked down and dirty. And some still say it’s just flu.

Okay, time for a scotch.

218 comments ↓

#1 Trudeau’s Magic Money Machine on 12.21.20 at 2:08 pm

Don’t worry.

I’m pretty sure we can spend our way out of this mess.

#2 SlantySemi on 12.21.20 at 2:11 pm

Okay, time for a scotch

Just be sure to call it by it’s proper name – whisky – when in Scotland! :)

#3 I’m stupid on 12.21.20 at 2:14 pm

Remember that every action has unintended and unknown consequences. Could it be that society realizes how great human contact is now that it’s gone? Or how amazing it is to actually spend the day at a mall? Could this be a lesson for the younger generation to actually get off the couch and experience life outside the home?

I don’t know about anyone else but I would love to be able to experience those things once again.

#4 Mother Nature on 12.21.20 at 2:17 pm

You greater fools think you can outsmart me, Mother Nature?

Even your fastest miracle vaccine can’t outsmart Mother Nature. When will you humans ever show respect to your environment and to Mother Nature?

I’ve mutated what you named as Covid-19 already 25 times. Even gave you 2 doozies that will render your miracle vaccine useless. More mutations to come, worry not!

Change your greedy ways humans! Don’t waste this incredible opportunity. I WON’T LET YOU GO BACK TO YOUR OLD WAYS!

#5 SOMETHINGS UP!! on 12.21.20 at 2:18 pm

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#6 Lee on 12.21.20 at 2:19 pm

Where does is say small business creates 90% of all employment? I can’t see how this is possible.

“As of December 2018, the Canadian economy totaled 1.2 million employer businesses. Of these, 1.18 million (97.9 percent) were small businesses, 22,266 (1.9 percent) were medium-sized businesses and 3,010 (0.2 percent) were large businesses.” – Garth

#7 crowdedelevatorfartz on 12.21.20 at 2:22 pm

I talked to a carpenter on the weekend.
His company specializes in bar and restaurant renos.
Apparently a large chain restaurant is buying up all the small independent competition and has plans to close most and resell the liquor licenses when things pick up.

Crushing and burning the mom and pop competition on the bonfire of Covid.

#8 Stan Brooks on 12.21.20 at 2:23 pm

Scotch it is. Black Label Johnny.

Cheers,

#9 Ponzius Pilatus on 12.21.20 at 2:26 pm

Here in BC, our daily life is about 80% pre Covid.
Missing certain things, but you adapt.
That’s what humans do.
Thinking what the grand parents had to go through during the wars.
Young people being let to the slaughter houses.
We had about 75 years of peace and prosperity.
Be thankful while you celebrate x-mas.

#10 Tommy on 12.21.20 at 2:28 pm

@Dharma Bum #270 previous thread:

You said: “I just got the Shingrix vaccine.”

You would have had to pay for that vaccine out of pocket because there is not a single provincial public health care system in Canada that covers the vaccines dor shingles, for which that is one of the brand names. Shingles vaccines are not covered by any provincial pharmacare programs in Canada because they are essentially not necessary.

In contrast, vaccines like MMR and diphtheria are covered across Canada. No Canadian has ever paid for an MMR vaccine. Because it is deemed medically necessary.

So thank you for highlighting the shingles vaccine. The scientific truth is that not all vaccines are created equal and not all vaccines are even deemed medically necessary so if you opt to get an unnecessary vaccine then you pay for that out of pocket.

It just goes to show some people are talking about stuff here that they have no clue about.

#11 Doug t on 12.21.20 at 2:33 pm

I don’t have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It’s a depression. Everybody’s out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel’s worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there’s nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there’s no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that’s the way it’s supposed to be! We know things are bad – worse than bad, They’re crazy! It’s like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don’t go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, ‘Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won’t say anything. Just leave us alone!’ Well, I’m not gonna leave you alone! I want you to get MAD! I don’t want you to protest. I don’t want you to riot – I don’t want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn’t know what to tell you to write. I don’t know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you’ve got to get mad! You’ve got to say, “I’m a HUMAN BEING, GODDAMNIT! My LIFE has VALUE!!” So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now, and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell: “I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!!”

#12 Tripp on 12.21.20 at 2:34 pm

“ The figures for Ottawa have remained relatively stable and much lower than other urban areas”

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-covid-19-figures-remain-stable-as-provincewide-lockdown-looms-1.5240059

#13 Overheardyou on 12.21.20 at 2:37 pm

I do miss going to the mall sometimes. On another note I think the closing of our ski hills but letting skating and other outdoor activities untouched is more ridiculous.

On a positive note. After the Pandemic passes maybe we’ll have a new wave of businesses rise from the ashes.

#14 Lee on 12.21.20 at 2:41 pm

Re: #6,

I do not believe that an “employer business” includes governments, which employ about 25% of the economy. I think it is more accurate to say small business creates 90% of all non-government jobs as opposed to 90% of total employment. Still a big number.

#15 Ponzius Pilatus on 12.21.20 at 2:41 pm

#7 crowdedelevatorfartz on 12.21.20 at 2:22 pm
I talked to a carpenter on the weekend.
His company specializes in bar and restaurant renos.
Apparently a large chain restaurant is buying up all the small independent competition and has plans to close most and resell the liquor licenses when things pick up.

Crushing and burning the mom and pop competition on the bonfire of Covid.
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Not my experience.
Still going out to our favorite small family owned restaurants twice or three times a week.
Sure, dine in crowd is smaller, but they say take out is 3x pre-Covid.

#16 Jeez .... on 12.21.20 at 2:44 pm

Garth’s hitting the old bottle before noon … out west here that is … and it’s actually snowing on 604. Neither will be good …

#17 Ponzius Pilatus on 12.21.20 at 2:47 pm

#10 Tommy on 12.21.20 at 2:28 pm
@Dharma Bum #270 previous thread:

You said: “I just got the Shingrix vaccine.”

You would have had to pay for that vaccine out of pocket because there is not a single provincial public health care system in Canada that covers the vaccines dor shingles, for which that is one of the brand names. Shingles vaccines are not covered by any provincial pharmacare programs in Canada because they are essentially not necessary.

In contrast, vaccines like MMR and diphtheria are covered across Canada. No Canadian has ever paid for an MMR vaccine. Because it is deemed medically necessary.

So thank you for highlighting the shingles vaccine. The scientific truth is that not all vaccines are created equal and not all vaccines are even deemed medically necessary so if you opt to get an unnecessary vaccine then you pay for that out of pocket.

It just goes to show some people are talking about stuff here that they have no clue about.
————–
What are you talking about?
Some medications and medical services are not covered
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Dharma Bum,
Good for you.
Shingles is for real. We know 3 people who had it. Not fun.
I’ll get it too, once this is over.

#18 What could possibly go wrong? on 12.21.20 at 2:47 pm

Don’t worry about the new Coronavirus strain!

Why put in any travel restrictions on UK?

Fauci isn’t worried – neither should you be. I mean, not like there is anything at all at risk – he vaccinated Santa Claus himself!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/politics/anthony-fauci-brett-giroir-uk-travel-ban-coronavirus/index.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fauci-tells-kids-not-worry-he-gave-santa-claus-got-n1251855

#19 Ubul on 12.21.20 at 2:51 pm

Will companies requiring vaccination be legally responsible for harm, if caused by the vaccination?
If they get legal liability immunity, the vaccine manufacturers get similar exemption, who will be legally responsible, in case of proven harmful side effects?

Has the government set up the liability framework related to mass vaccination with products, released under emergency authorization – prior starting deployment?

#20 Flop... on 12.21.20 at 2:55 pm

#299 unbalanced on 12.21.20 at 1:53 pm
Alas! I miss the talk of real estate and investment.

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Sorry, can’t remember where you live.

I was on Zealty the other day and noticed December hadn’t been that spectacular as the usual winter slump was upon us, but Zolo seemed to be relatively upbeat.

Checked back two days ago and they had swung the axe in the data.

19.7 drop for month

17.6 drop for quarter

12.6 drop for year.

I guess the big story in Vancouver is the condo market.

Garth wrote a post touching on this a couple of weeks ago mentioning Eitel Insights and someone commented they hadn’t seen any changes.

When I looked back then condos were down around 8 % in the last 3 months, so it was probably around the start of September to the start of December.

They just dropped the hammer on this one too.

Down 20% yoy and around the same for 3 months ago.

There was some love for detached in the Autumn, with lots in my hood going above ask and assessment, but the jury will have to wait to the late Spring to make a decision on what’s happening there.

Don’t listen to me though, I just got 9 screws removed from my foot and might not be the only person in Vancouver that is no longer screwed…

M46BC

https://www.zolo.ca/vancouver-real-estate/trends

#21 kommykim on 12.21.20 at 2:57 pm

RE: Machines don’t get viruses. Self-driving trucks, either.

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But they do. Just not from biological viruses. Pretty much everything is networked, and it is only a matter of time until there is some sort of major shutdown or crisis. Sure it’ll be fixed, just like COVID in humans will be eventually, but there’ll be consequences.

#22 Victor Maitland on 12.21.20 at 2:57 pm

Our grandparents/great grandparents survived wars, the Great Depression, and yes, pandemics as bad as or worse than this one. However, one common theme was that those events resulted in a lower standard of living. Not permanently, but for years. Even WWII, despite what is argued, did not “end the Depression”, except on paper. We borrowed a bunch of money this time to prevent us from feeling the immediate decline in living standards, but did we only just delay the inevitable.?

I have never believed in free lunches. If we truly have avoided the decline in our standard of living without an eventual price to pay, then I will have to change my mind, and admit that there is in fact a free lunch, straight from the central bank printing press. But until I see it with my own eyes, I will not believe it. I cannot help but feel there will be hell to pay over the next 10 years, as the bills catch up and the damage makes itself known in myriad ways. I’ve never wanted to be wrong about something so badly. Please let there be free lunches. I’ll take the hungryman platter.

#23 SunShowers on 12.21.20 at 3:03 pm

“As of December 2018, the Canadian economy totaled 1.2 million employer businesses. Of these, 1.18 million (97.9 percent) were small businesses, 22,266 (1.9 percent) were medium-sized businesses and 3,010 (0.2 percent) were large businesses.” – Garth

Hey Garth, not to be pedantic, but I think it would be more correct to say that small businesses are responsible for >90% of all employERS, rather than employMENT. The next paragraph clarifies that small businesses are responsible for ~70% of all employMENT.

Still a very valid point, and more needs to be done to protect small independent businesses, and especially salons and the like, for which there is no option for take-out only like for restaurants.

“Okay, time for a scotch.”

My parents bought me a bottle of Laphroaig Quarter Cask for my birthday, and I was pleasantly surprised. I went in expecting a peat bomb typical of Islay whiskies, and while very peaty, this scotch was warm, mellow, and complex, such that the peat wasn’t as overpowering as I had anticipated. Still not something I would have bought for myself, but not something I’ll have to choke down either. If you’re not averse to heavily peated scotch, it’s worth a look.

#24 Tommy on 12.21.20 at 3:05 pm

@Ponzius Pilatus #17

Yes, shingles is a real disease and it is painful. But that’s not enough for cash-strapped provincial health programs to cover the shingles vaccine. People don’t die from shingles. People don’t stop working because of shingles as it only affects elderly people who are usually retired. So, it’s not deemed enough of a public health threat to justify public coverage. If you want the shingles vaccine because you don’t want to experience the pain of shingles in old age, then you pay out of pocket for it. Some extended health plans may cover it. But it’s not covered by any public health programs in Canada because it is not deemed medically necessary.

COVID-19 vaccines are covered by public health programs meaning the government does deem it medically necessary.

I am not expressing an opinion one way or the other with respect to COVID-19 vaccine. I am just saying not all vaccines are created equally or are rven necessary. So we can’t lump them all into one category and then claim that people who have legitimate concerns are “anti-vaxxers”. They may in fact be huge proponents of vaccines and have received many vaccines themselves. They just know that not all vaccines are the same.

#25 jerry on 12.21.20 at 3:07 pm

1969-Computers used to send a man to the moon. 2006 the first iphone with more computing power. 2020 Vaccines in 11 months MRNA……………..the future is so bright I gotta wear shades!

#26 Millennial Realist on 12.21.20 at 3:11 pm

Such complete BS coming from Doug Ford today. So sad.

In a carefully engineered press conference, he calls it a “shutdown”. But hardly anything has actually been changed, in Toronto/Peel, where the risk is highest.

Yet he delays it until Dec 26, so people can break the rules and gather at Christmas. Endangering everyone much more as those holiday cases will now surge much more than needed within a couple weeks.

He stands there with four ministers, NOT ONE of them wearing a mask. Very deliberate mixed messaging to his base. Why did they wear them before and not today?

Then he repeatedly slams the federal government, saying THEY are the problem e.g. with international travellers. Pure hypocrisy. And a joke.

Total political BS propaganda intended to appeal to his
Paleo Boomer-Con base.

After all the ‘good’ reviews he has been getting this year, Dougie has just jumped the shark.

What an appalling abrogation of duty this Premier has just demonstrated.

Politics before anything else, even safety.

Ontario voters, remember this day.

#27 Faron on 12.21.20 at 3:12 pm

#7 crowdedelevatorfartz on 12.21.20 at 2:22 pm

I talked to a carpenter on the weekend.
His company specializes in bar and restaurant renos.
Apparently a large chain restaurant is buying up all the small independent competition and has plans to close most and resell the liquor licenses when things pick up.

Crushing and burning the mom and pop competition on the bonfire of Covid.

What little mom and pop competition there is. Don’t get me started about the BC bar scene. Essentially, a vast collection of faux brit pub styled drinking holes with direct from SYSCO menus, overpriced beer, zero comfort or character and far too many TV/lotto screens. Too-expensive liquor licenses combined with too-high minimum drink prices have forced the scene into a generic corporate model that is the only kind profitable enough to survive. Mom and pop joints barely stood a chance to begin with, let alone with this news. One area where gov’t regulation has made a mess of things.

And not being able to drink in public… oh boy.

#28 Left GTA on 12.21.20 at 3:13 pm

Garth you are doing a great job of educating people!
I don’t know where u get the drive to keep it up. I respect you so much. As well you have done wonders for my investment portfolio. I wish I stumbled on to this blog years earlier. But however I need to let off some steam… Maybe it’s because of the wine but here goes… I am amazed at how people view medicine. Afraid of a vaccine? Ok so are u afraid of your BP meds, or your diabetes medications? Or how about the surgeries you need? Or the appendix we took out because you were going septic? Right it is ok to pick and choose which medicine you believe in right. How about you take a mental leap and go back in history and brush up on influenza, polio, TB, chicken pox, pertussis, rubella, mumps, measles, hiv, malaria…. while your at it why don’t you just travel back in time and you can live during that time. Oh yah no iphone, no computer no on demand water…right… how inconvenient. My dad lived in a TB sanatorium for a year at 18 because he got TB. He is still alive at 80 because of heart medication and heart stents. His dad on the other hand dropped dead from a heart attack at 53 from the same blockage in his heart that my dad had stented. I work in medicine and dedicate my life to looking after people. Frankly I find that I am losing interest in doing this much longer. To help and save the lives of people who are so self absorbed and illogical. People that have become their own worst enemy. Afraid of a vaccine or worse thinking that the gov’t is controlling them. Ridiculous. What is really sad is that Covid is affecting our elderly the most. What a horrible way to die alone and suffocating. The same people that were probably a child during war times. The same people our elders went to war to provide a future for. How much they had to endure. How very very sad. It is bad enough that now they are also lonely because of covid. And this is the way we treat them. They instilled in us the very values needed to live our lives and yet how many of you have even listened to them. Because as far as I can remember we are all supposed to live within our income and have saving so as not to be a burden on others, a cold cellar full of supplies, a garden to provide food and to look after our neighbors. A lot of these values have been forgotten. What I am starting to see is a broken society. Why can’t we just all pull together and beat this virus before it is too late.

#29 Classical Liberal Millennial on 12.21.20 at 3:14 pm

Someone please explain how this “lockdown” will decrease cases. If I’m not mistaken, cases are consistently linked to private gatherings in homes. Not dining in restaurants and shopping at local small businesses. Factories and warehouses, two other venues that have been linked to cases, are considered essential. None of this makes sense. Unless governments are prepared to use the threat of violence to prevent people from visiting homes that are not theirs, what is this going to do?

#30 Confusedmill on 12.21.20 at 3:16 pm

I’m one of those under 30 wfh loving millenials. It is a great divide with most of my 40 plus colleagues just itching to get back to the office. Now I’m too young to remember what the economy was like when I was a kid, but can anybody let me know if there was a time when a brain drain happened? I only ask because a few of my friends and myself, sure to cost of living and

#31 Confusedmill on 12.21.20 at 3:17 pm

Well I cut off my comment accidentally. A few of my friends and I are thinking of moving abroad if things get bad enough here and the economy goes down the wrong path. So is that something that’s happened in prior economic downturns?

#32 Flop... on 12.21.20 at 3:21 pm

#167 Ponzius Pilatus on 12.20.20 at 6:56 pm

With Global Warming, you’ll need those shots here soon,too.
Good forward thinking.
Phlop for President.

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Hey Ponzi, I’m sure this went over most people’s heads but the fact that you called me Phlop, relating back to your post about how to pronounce Pfizer did not escape me, just decided watching the Kansas City Chiefs was more up my alley than getting involved in the to vaxx, or not to vaxx thing that was on the fight card here yesterday.

I’ve got a little side story for you about Australia’s most famous race horse.

Most Australians believe he was poisoned by the Americans in California back in the Great Depression, at that time he was the third highest stakes winner in the world, but I’ll stay out of that as it’s not that important to the overall story.

They originally wanted to call him Far Lap, but a lot of Melbourne Cup winners had 7 letter names.

What to do?

They decided to call him Phar Lap…

M46BC

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phar_Lap

#33 Prince Polo on 12.21.20 at 3:23 pm

Biden getting the vaccine live on tv, right now!

What angle will the anti-vaxxers take? Incredulous minds want to know……

#34 WTF on 12.21.20 at 3:23 pm

#17 Ponzius.

Here in BC. Paid the $, I Got the Shingles Vax a year ago. No reaction. Non-event

Wifey got her first last Friday. Whoa, Sat am was like Tyson and Holyfield swinging for the fences in her body. Yuuge antibody rumble. Vomit/ chills/ nausea/ hot flashes. Rest of the day on the couch and eventually symptoms receded. Appetite came roaring back by 3pm, Off the couch by 5pm. Sunday back to normal.

Yes, she will be getting the second Shinrix jab……and yes we are both eagerly waiting for our turn for the Covid Vax.

#35 Classical Liberal Millennial on 12.21.20 at 3:25 pm

Then he repeatedly slams the federal government, saying THEY are the problem e.g. with international travellers. Pure hypocrisy. And a joke.

Total political BS propaganda intended to appeal to his
Paleo Boomer-Con base.

After all the ‘good’ reviews he has been getting this year, Dougie has just jumped the shark.

What an appalling abrogation of duty this Premier has just demonstrated.

Politics before anything else, even safety.

Ontario voters, remember this day.

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You are being very partisan here. This is such BS. Are you seriously telling me you have no issues with the hundreds of thousands of visitors that have flown into our country this year with no testing before being allowed through customs and no enforcement of quarantine? If this was a provincial jurisdiction, you would be foaming at the mouth that this is happening.

Make no mistake, Ford will win a bigger majority in 2022. The virus will be in the past, people will be optimistic, and unless you’re as useless as Trump, a crisis like this is good for the incumbent.

#36 Dominoes Lining Up on 12.21.20 at 3:26 pm

The amounts being talked about to help small businesses in this next phase seem very weak.

I greatly fear that a bloodbath is in store for small businesses in the next few months.

Hope I’m wrong but…

#37 Prince Polo on 12.21.20 at 3:27 pm

I love boring commentary! Not once did I hear how great he (Biden) was at a task. Is it Jan 21 yet?

#38 Stealth on 12.21.20 at 3:27 pm

The answers to all posed 7 questions is Yes or very close to Yes.

The question which was not asked is what will all this money printing all over the world do to currency related items, paper assets, real estate, commodities, incomes etc. This is my biggest question.
In other countries which experienced elevated inflation and even hyper inflation they simply started using other more stable currency such as former Deutsch mark, Swiss frank etc. That is no longer feasible.
If the answer is everything will be more expensive , then that is also a problem for whoever can’t ride that wave up.

If you can address this question is the future blog it would be good.

Thanks

#39 yvr_lurker on 12.21.20 at 3:28 pm

I don’t think there was any choice at the moment for the world cutting off flights from the UK. They need to really make sure that the scientists understand this new viral mutation and to really get a sense of whether the vaccine will be effective on it. Although previous experience with viruses indicates that it would take a much longer period for a mutation to be sufficiently different to be resistant to the vaccine, given the high stakes involved it needs to be checked out thoroughly. This just indicates how important it is to vaccinate as many people as possible worldwide in a short period so as to cut the transmission.

When the decision was made to cut the flights from the UK it was done very fast. If only the world did something similar in mid-late January to China we would be in an better position now. Don’t get me going about my view on China; they obfuscated, stalled and mis-informed the WHO and the entire world until the horse was long out of the barn. Now let’s see how well they co-operate with the WHO in scientifcally tracking the origins of the virus so as to really to mitigate having a carnage of this sort going forward

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55333200

China’s level of cooperation in this process should be a key factor on how socially distanced the rest of the world should be from them going foward (much less flights, independent monitors, business given incentives to relocate etc…)

#40 Hawk on 12.21.20 at 3:30 pm

Ok to embrace the spirit Garth proposes, I shall cease and desist from reminding forum participants about the importance of “inalienable rights” and the dangers of big government.

So then my open question is. On the one hand we are told that Canadians are saving a lot of money and are cash rich post pandemic. On the other hand are debt is also increasing. How does one reconcile these conflicting assertions? Is our debt increasing because of larger mortgages, because other than that if we have more cash, surely we would be paying down debt not increasing it?

#41 Déjà vu on 12.21.20 at 3:35 pm

Three weeks to flatten the curve

#42 Tommy on 12.21.20 at 3:37 pm

FYI: Snow is falling across Metro Vancouver and it is sticking and people are getting caught off guard because the weather forecasters downplayed the risk of snow all weekend. And there’s a major power outage in Surrey right now. It’s the first day of winter on the West Coast and if it wasn’t for widespread work-from-home our transit system would not be able to cope on days like this.

#43 Dolce Vita on 12.21.20 at 3:37 pm

“The UK# is ostracized.” -Garth

#plagueIsland

…trending on Twitter (dry sense of Brit humour…priceless in the face of adversity, I admire their pluck so very much).

If any good can come from this is that the UK has been transparent and has formidable medical science they are throwing at the “variant” (e.g., COG UK where they have gene sequenced 157,439 viruses https://www.cogconsortium.uk/).

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In the “when it rains, it pours” department ANOTHER MUTANT Covid strain in South Africa. Apparently just as virulent as the UK variant but DIFFERENT. Picked up by the German MSM today, Die Welt and Deutsche Welle, both rock solid MSM:

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article222942556/Pandemie-Corona-Mutation-in-Suedafrika-zirkuliert-offensichtlich-seit-Monaten.html

https://www.dw.com/de/corona-mutation-s%C3%BCdafrika-gro%C3%9Fbritannien-gemeinsamkeiten-beunruhigen/a-56013898

#44 Catalyst on 12.21.20 at 3:40 pm

Fresh stimulus in the US even without lockdowns. In Canada we are getting fresh lockdowns and no stimulus. I fear for the CAD and with commodity prices on an absolute tear (check out steel/lumber this year) I really feel for the average Canadians purchasing power.

Economically, I am against printing it and handing it out, but it’s hard to see a different option. I would never have thought in my lifetime I’d see Canada mandating a small clothing shop closed and demanding I shop at walmart or costco for all needs.

The world’s norms like a bond market that kept government spending in check have been obliterated and I don’t see how that can be put back in the box. A world without a bond market doesn’t make sense to me, but it makes you more open to listening about fringe stuff like a global cabal where you get your money directly from an account at the central bank and freedom of movement of money is constrained. This is the primary driver behind bitcoin in an asset that is believed to be out of government reach.

Scary times.

#45 Opportunity knocking on 12.21.20 at 3:41 pm

Doug t on 12.21.20 at 2:33 pm

All I know is that first you’ve got to get mad! You’ve got to say, “I’m a HUMAN BEING, GODDAMNIT! My LIFE has VALUE!!” So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now, and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell: “I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!!”

Sorry Doug. That ship left about 9 months ago.
I think you were watching Netflix or playing on your new PS5 when I knocked on your door.

#46 Linda on 12.21.20 at 3:45 pm

Happy to hear you dressed up for us, Garth:)

Regardless of the outcome, the pandemic has forced us to examine how we live our lives. WFH isn’t all bad. Traffic has been reduced by a considerable amount, so when one must go forth it is much easier to get around. All that reduced traffic flow has led to cleaner air. We keep on talking about reducing emissions, but now we’ve actually done it. However temporarily.

Also, I see this as showing what we as a society would have to do to accomplish those CO2 reduction goals as we live now. I wonder how many people, having seen what would have to occur, will still be willing to do what it takes to achieve those goals on a permanent basis?

Automation. Machines do not as yet repair themselves. Self driving delivery trucks do not as yet come with frisky little door to door delivery robots. Someone has to create, maintain, program & replace as needed. Sounds expensive. May or may not be practical depending on circumstances. Doubtless will engender end of days reactions in some homo sapiens. So while some professions will diminish or disappear, others will grow or be created.

#47 Bob in Hamilton on 12.21.20 at 3:45 pm

OK, now the important question.

What type of Scotch do you drink? Enquiring minds want to know….

#48 R on 12.21.20 at 3:46 pm

Covid has allowed the WFH introverts to shine. The loud distracting extroverts that think they are the smartest because they are the first to interrupt and dominate no longer have the social adrenaline to sustain them. Covid will allow people to now appreciate the quieter, focused leaders in the group .

#49 Old man winter on 12.21.20 at 3:46 pm

#12 Tripp on 12.21.20 at 2:34 pm

“ The figures for Ottawa have remained relatively stable and much lower than other urban areas”

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-covid-19-figures-remain-stable-as-provincewide-lockdown-looms-1.5240059

No surprise there. I can’t think of too many places colder than Ottawa in the middle of winter… and I’m not talking about the weather there!

#50 the Jaguar on 12.21.20 at 3:47 pm

I hope all those shelter dogs and cats stay in the homes that took them in during the pandemic once it’s all over. I see bringing an animal into your home as a lifetime commitment, but others do not and a bad economy won’t help that situation.

We’ve tossed around the idea that recovery might resemble the ‘Roaring Twenties’, but the truth about that period is that it wasn’t a picnic for everyone. Pandemic and war (especially both at the same time) changed a lot of things, and then culminated in a big crash and a miserable lost decade until the next war. People flocked to cities to finds jobs.

Work is the big driver of human behaviour and migration. We only have to look at our own past. Where have the jobs been in Canada and where will they be in the future after the pandemic? Are we a more divided society these days with different views on culture, ethics and tradition? I believe so. It shows up on the electoral map with every election. Especially urban versus rural. What do the demographics of that tell us, and how do we exercise more control over our choices and our destiny. We might not be able to put the genie back in the bottle this time.
Not after this year which fell on the heels of our National Railway lines being blocked. And the Feds stood back. We watched cities burn south of the border this past ‘summer of love’. If nothing else I would bet the farm that many don’t want that imported north of the border.
But are we ‘ all in it together’ on that one? Doubtful.

#51 Alberta Ed on 12.21.20 at 3:47 pm

Scotch (single malt, preferably) has proven anti-viral properties.

#52 IHCTD9 on 12.21.20 at 3:50 pm

Not Scotch, but Rum. I’ve only bought alcohol on Fridays to limit my consumption to the weekend, but I’m gonna break that rule today. I think this total lockdown is going to kybosh a couple Kijiji items I wanted to buy (both from GTA) for a holiday project.

#53 T-Rev on 12.21.20 at 3:53 pm

Scotch time it is! The most important point in what you wrote is the epic failure in modern leadership. But we’ve got the government we deserve, and thankfully we get a choice every four years. Might take another decade or two, but once things get bad enough, people will vote their way back to sense. That’s democracy. Just hope our economy and way of life aren’t utterly destroyed by then.

Anywhoo…For just the fourth time ever (and third time this year), I’ve decided to become a market timer. Cashed out of about half my equity positions today. Against the Bearded One’s philosophy, which tends to end in tears, but I don’t see much upside in the next two months, and what I do see is two months of volatility as we wait to see:
a) How well the vax get’s rolled out and do people line up for it? I believe the answer is “remarkably well” and “about 60% of those eligible and not forced too”
b) Does the vax really work? I believe the answer is “heavens yes, like 95%against the current strain”
c) Does this thing mutate? Does the vax still work against the new strain”? The answer is “yes it mutates” and “very likely but effectiveness could be reduced”
d) What does the UK mutation (COVID-20 anyone?) do for fresh lockdowns, travel restrictions, and stress on the system. The answer is “you can bet your a$$ it’s already here, because let’s face it airplanes are flying, so hold on”

Anyway, The Beard is correct, this will end, science will triumph, and sanity will return. I’m up to 8 personal contacts that have had the virus. They’ve all recovered and are fine. This is a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things. But I think you’re going to see Mr. Market spook over the next two months, and so I’m going to watch it happen with some dry powder.

#54 temporary change of subject on 12.21.20 at 4:00 pm

Okay, I admit I’ve pretty much given up reading comments every day. But I can’t help wonder/worry what has happened to Nefelli. Did she get adopted?

Yes. – Garth

#55 Dolce Vita on 12.21.20 at 4:00 pm

Some excellent questions there Garth. History a good teacher.

Spanish Flu lasted 1 to 2 years, came in 3 waves followed by The Roaring 20’s, according to Google descriptors:

A decade of PROSPERITY (fueled by cheap credit) and dissipation, and of jazz bands, bootleggers, raccoon coats, bathtub gin, flappers, flagpole sitters, bootleggers, and marathon dancers – free wheeling popular culture (and the rise of Al Capone).

Thus, prepare it’s going to get WEIRD after the Pandemic is over but also some very good times to come along with prosperity.

Something to look forward to…I hope.

#56 IHCTD9 on 12.21.20 at 4:00 pm

Then he repeatedly slams the federal government, saying THEY are the problem e.g. with international travellers [sic]. Pure hypocrisy.. blah, blah, blah, etc… etc..
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#35 Classical Liberal Millennial on 12.21.20 at 3:25 pm

You are being very partisan here. This is such BS. Are you seriously telling me you have no issues with the hundreds of thousands of visitors that have flown into our country this year with no testing before being allowed through customs and no enforcement of quarantine? If this was a provincial jurisdiction, you would be foaming at the mouth that this is happening.

Make no mistake, Ford will win a bigger majority in 2022. The virus will be in the past, people will be optimistic, and unless you’re as useless as Trump, a crisis like this is good for the incumbent.
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MR is a long time complete and utter troll. You’ll not get much variety from this twit.

I mean, for crying out loud – everyone in Ontario remembers Mcguilty and Wynne – the two most destructive Premieres any Province in Canada has ever had to suffer under – and for so bloody long. It felt like an eternity.

I won’t live to see the damage those two gits created ever repaired.

#57 TurnerNation on 12.21.20 at 4:03 pm

One by one the Globalists are shutting down First World countries? To force the UBI (and helplessness) in Q1 2021 is my opinion. All the posted signs, scared eyes peeking out of covered faces, and blaring PA announcement only reinforce the fear, control. You no longer have an immune system; only the CV protocols will keep you healthy.
For the people who cannot find a black market barber or haircutter, they adopt the State-approved hairstyles (North Korea anyone?).

For years I read ‘conspiracies’ about a grand Agenda for 21 (2021) to remake the word. Phffft
Oh yeah, that Minimum wage of $15? Flip their words 180 degrees to make sense. $15 should be the new UBI Maximum wage.
That radical AOC Green agenda ‘leaked’ (wink wink) last year, yes we are currently being trained and conditioned to #stayhome and be happy in our monitored UN Smart Cities, shopping at only the Globalist’s big companies.

Still think this is about your health? As I drive around the iconic small neighbourhoods of Toronto, and observe the WW3 damage , I see darkened vacant stores everywhere. What’s under them? LAND – the goal of every war. (When will the condo developers swoop in?) To tie it together, did ya notice that Condo constructions never was stopped this year. The show must go on.

— Ontariowe. How’d they know? Many months ago was it May the ruling regime extended their ‘state of emergency’ into April/May 2021. How’d they know?
This weblog debunked this radical timeline. I actually refer to the timeline chart on this page every few weeks, for real. .

https://www.greaterfool.ca/2020/10/15/virus-porn-2/


Upside: Did you know, a Santa Claus parade was held in Toronto? Self organized. Even though all fun is banned in the New System
Footage:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFnm7oQPDYhXA-JnXmCszdQ

#58 COVID Barber on 12.21.20 at 4:05 pm

Garth, you’re a kind man but you look like a mess in that recent photo you shared.

I can be there on Wednesday to give you a great Christmas cut.

Only $15,000, so better act fast.

Christmas in lockdown can be extra lonely and stressful if your beloved is turned off by your shaggy prisoner look.

Capisce?

#59 Ray Jenson on 12.21.20 at 4:06 pm

Garth, machines, computers do get viruses. It is called being hacked, It is not just Joe blow, consumer, taxpayer, individuals, businesses. It is now government big time like the last few days in the US treasury and other government agencies.

They will not get the corona virus or some other contagion but it brings down the whole system and creates conflicts between countries, people etc.

#60 Ponzius Pilatus on 12.21.20 at 4:09 pm

#24 Tommy on 12.21.20 at 3:05 pm
@Ponzius Pilatus #17

Yes, shingles is a real disease and it is painful. But that’s not enough for cash-strapped provincial health programs to cover the shingles vaccine. People don’t die from shingles. People don’t stop working because of shingles as it only affects elderly people who are usually retired. So, it’s not deemed enough of a public health threat to justify public coverage. If you want the shingles vaccine because you don’t want to experience the pain of shingles in old age, then you pay out of pocket for it. Some extended health plans may cover it. But it’s not covered by any public health programs in Canada because it is not deemed medically necessary.

COVID-19 vaccines are covered by public health programs meaning the government does deem it medically necessary.
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Agree with you.
But it’s a catch-22 situation for the gubernment.
People complain about the deficits and then complain when not everything is covered.
Just recently found out that ambulance rides cost 80 bucks. Was covered before.
4x the cost of a taxi. Joking of course.

#61 Andrewski on 12.21.20 at 4:13 pm

Have yet to form a taste for Scotch, but my son & I have done some libation mixing & really enjoy what we call a, Peeled Apple Turkey.

Peeled, as in orange liqueur like Grand Marnier or Cointreau.
Apple, as in apple juice.
Turkey, as in Wild Turkey 101 bourbon, but any bourbon should do.

Pour equal amounts of all 3, either straight up or on ice if you’d like it chilled and enjoy!

#62 meslippery on 12.21.20 at 4:19 pm

Yesterdays comments 303 and counting a little to daunting. I remember sitting in my Doctors waiting room.
Magazines and ashtrays smoking a cigarette waiting my turn. If I did that today I would no longer have a family Doctor He also might insist on a covid vaccine.
No vax. No Doctor.

#63 Ponzius Pilatus on 12.21.20 at 4:20 pm

#34 WTF on 12.21.20 at 3:23 pm
#17 Ponzius.

Here in BC. Paid the $, I Got the Shingles Vax a year ago. No reaction. Non-event

Wifey got her first last Friday. Whoa, Sat am was like Tyson and Holyfield swinging for the fences in her body. Yuuge antibody rumble. Vomit/ chills/ nausea/ hot flashes. Rest of the day on the couch and eventually symptoms receded. Appetite came roaring back by 3pm, Off the couch by 5pm. Sunday back to normal.

Yes, she will be getting the second Shinrix jab……and yes we are both eagerly waiting for our turn for the Covid Vax.
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My wife had a similar reaction to the shingles shot.
I guess that’s why they are called the weaker sex.
Don’t tell her I said this.

#64 Have you driven a Ford lately? on 12.21.20 at 4:20 pm

#26 Millennial Realist on 12.21.20 at 3:11 pm

Such complete BS coming from Doug Ford today. So sad….. Yadda. Yadda… Yadda.

I skipped over most of what you said since I watched the shiite show as well… but I don’t think you mentioned how he deked out the reporter then skated around the question with all his fancy stickhandling with regards to the question of NHL players being exempted.

Ford postponed his XMas lockdown message because he needed a couple extra days so he could head up to the family cottage after Xmas… I mean… check on the property.

All that being said… This blog then expects me to blindly heed his or his ilk’s medical advice. I must have the surname Coward printed on the back of my jersey!

#65 Tommy on 12.21.20 at 4:26 pm

@Ponzius Pilatus #55

Yes, BC emergency ambulance ride is $80. But on the plus side, they give you a discount if you die en route to the hospital. For those who are dead-on-arrival at BC public hospitals, the cost of an ambulance ride is reduced to $50. That’s a 37.5% discount just for being dead! #winning

#66 Bob in Hamilton on 12.21.20 at 4:32 pm

Back story on the dog in the cage in the photo?

#67 Doctor No it all on 12.21.20 at 4:33 pm

#28 Left GTA on 12.21.20 at 3:13 pm

Garth you are doing a great job of educating people!
I don’t know where u get the drive to keep it up. I respect you so much. As well you have done wonders for my investment portfolio. I wish I stumbled on to this blog years earlier. But however I need to let off some steam… Maybe it’s because of the wine but here goes…

First off… A wee bit early to be popping the cork, are we not? It ain’t late enough no matter where you might be in Canada.

Second… You might consider paying a few bucks more for your glogg. At some point, you’ll realize the convenience store just can’t cut it anymore. Pass on the two buck Chuck! (Google it if need be)

Third…working as a janitor in one of the hospitals doesn’t necessarily qualify you to comment on the medical state of affairs in Canada.

#68 Blof Witzer The Stitatation Closet on 12.21.20 at 4:34 pm

Well I don’t feel better about anything now.

#69 MicroGX on 12.21.20 at 4:39 pm

After reviewing the comments section, betteimake that an Xtra large double double Scotch.
Not a wordsmith ..just Thanks Garth from wherever you craft these post.

#70 wallflower on 12.21.20 at 4:42 pm

Agree with below. Lockdown is not effective.
I can catalogue a litany of social lifestyling that is at the heart of this. People who have not changed their behaviour a wit! (Which includes international border crossings and large home parties from these.)
Tragic what is happening to the businesses that are not at the heart of this.

#29 Classical Liberal Millennial on 12.21.20 at 3:14 pm
Someone please explain how this “lockdown” will decrease cases. If I’m not mistaken, cases are consistently linked to private gatherings in homes.

#71 Brain draino on 12.21.20 at 4:42 pm

#31 Confusedmill on 12.21.20 at 3:17 pm

Well I cut off my comment accidentally. A few of my friends and I are thinking of moving abroad if things get bad enough here and the economy goes down the wrong path. So is that something that’s happened in prior economic downturns?

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Can’t speak to any prior economic downturns, however you may have witnessed a significant brain drain from this pathetic blog. Remember, it’s always the best that leave… because they can.

Or perhaps because someone calls them a coward!

#72 Barb on 12.21.20 at 4:44 pm

“But I can’t help wonder/worry what has happened to Nefelli. Did she get adopted?

Yes. – Garth”

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Wish you had posed a better question, #54.
Ahem…

#73 Sail away on 12.21.20 at 4:46 pm

#54 temporary change of subject on 12.21.20 at 4:00 pm

…I can’t help wonder/worry what has happened to Nefelli. Did she get adopted?

Yes. – Garth

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German Shepherds can be great pets. We adopted one from friends with 3 young kids and no time in 2004, and she (the Shepherd, Shep) was part of the family for the next 10 years.

Shepherds temperament is very different from bird dogs. They are protective of family and stay very close at all times. On walks, the bird dogs range far and wide, but the shepherd always stayed close. My wife absolutely adored her.

Early one morning, I looked out the window and saw a guy sorting through our stuff under the deck (within the fenced yard), so quietly called Shep and let her out to sic him. Never saw someone jump a fence so fast, haha.

#74 bucket55 on 12.21.20 at 4:53 pm

LLLLUUUUUUUCCCCCCYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#75 JPICKETT on 12.21.20 at 4:55 pm

So here I live in an Ontario city of 22,000 people with an active COVID case count of ZERO and Dougie Ford is out to kill our economy. The authorities told us to mask up back in October which would help bring COVID to its knees. WRONG! Ontario has more cases now than in the spring when no had a mask. Certainly does not give you much confidence in the decision makers. There is a free website that shows jets over Canadian airspace. I see a British Air from London into Chicago and another BA flight into Dallas. That mutated virus over in Jolly Olde England will be here in no time flat courtesy of our American “friends”. Can’t blame the Chinese on this one. At least we might have a winter from the frozen north and we won’t notice a lockdown as we will all be snowed in. That has happened before. Wonder when Justin will run out of money. JOHN

#76 Prairieboy43 on 12.21.20 at 4:57 pm

December 21, 2020. A good sign, Switching to longer days tomorrow. -1c here Northern Albertan. Went good 2hr Fat Bike ride. Installed the studded 4.0” tires this fall. Do those tires hookup at 12lbs/tire. You Smile after your body warms up. The big tire bikes are fun. I encourage everyone to try one out. Not fast, however it’s a good activity. Quiet (other than tire noise), fun, makes day go fast (and it does with 7hours sunlight). You don’t think of Covid-19, vaccines, Trillion dollar Deficit, Governments. You just ride. Smile, live another day. Thank You for your financial blog, Dog pictures (that dog looks sad). Comment section provides Free entertainment (I miss Smoking Mans comments). Merry Xmas…..PB43
Merry Xmas.

#77 Joe Schmoe on 12.21.20 at 4:57 pm

Missed the gong show yesterday in the comments section.

Thanks for taking up the rational cause Garth.

The pocket lawyers stating that changing HSE policies will be a material contract breech was hilarious.

I wonder how many people were given severance when steel toed boots or post incident drug screen were introduced in various workplaces?

Do what you can to prop people up, not tear them down.

#78 Cheese on 12.21.20 at 5:09 pm

I’m a fan of Lagavulin 16 myself.

It’s problem is that it is unaffordable -_-

#79 Left GTA on 12.21.20 at 5:11 pm

#67 I am a nurse in the middle of a covid hot spot. What do u do for a living? Anything of value that you add to society or are you just a troll taking up space on this planet.

#80 calgary rip off on 12.21.20 at 5:12 pm

What’s at issue is the cost of shutting everything down, the virus is important, the economy is important also.

Shutting things down isnt the answer and isnt working. The only way to deal with things is focusing on boosting immunity and vaccines.

Last night I spoke with my Dad. He is 75. He is terrified. A retired accountant he wants any vaccine. I explained to him about possible risks of the RNA. He doesnt care. Problem is the risks of new technology plus effectiveness. I am wary of RNA however much I want it to work I dont see long term data. I prefer a more tested vaccine such as adenovirus. So I feel awful for a couple days, thats ok with me.

The big problem is that efficacy of these new vaccines may go down, no data on that either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VUI_%E2%80%93_202012/01

VUI 2020 12/01 is the name of the new variant. Virus under investigation. It was Wuhan in 2019. Now it is the UK, London, 2020.

Having everything shut down will cost billions. Recovery? When? How?

The social isolation isnt a big deal for me. Mentally Im a lot like a cat. I tolerate people like they tolerate me. Im probably not liked much by anyone. But thats ok. It isnt personal, mostly people are just stressed. So I dont need to do strange drugs or escape. I have plenty of ways to do that, they are almost endless.

For those stressed I highly recommend the Wim Hof breathing and cold shower techniques. Wims son made an app for phones. Use it. It is free. It is good. Ideal for a crazy world, training the body to handle stress better. And the breathing techniques are like a dreamscape as I remember events in my past vividly.

Im thankful for all the good things in my life. I focus on not having to hunt and worry about survival like 10,000 years ago. Lights, heat, water, vehicles, medical care, food, most of that is taken care of. For now.

#81 Victor Maitland on 12.21.20 at 5:16 pm

Millennial Realist, what do you want Ford to do? Put an armed guard at your door to ensure you don’t venture outside?

#82 Dolce Vita on 12.21.20 at 5:22 pm

#29 Classical Liberal Millennial

Italia has been at it for at least about a month now with restrictions (mid-Novemberish) to a complete Red Zone over the holidays. UK was doing very well until hammered by the “variant” (N501Y).

What happens? Why do it you ask? Observe the Italia curve and the UK (before N501Y):

https://i.imgur.com/cLdliZf.png

If you don’t get it after the above, you never will. Then again, you could go to a more laissez faire approach like SWEDEN also in the above chart.

And pray N501Y does not make it to Canada and instead be grateful for Gov’s trying to stop the current D601Y version, an amateur Covid effort when it comes to infecting.

If Canada is having problems with amateur effort D601Y now imagine N501Y on the loose?

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And to so called BC almost “normal” hubris I read here today:

A bit RICH don’t you think for a Province with HALF THE NATIONAL TEST RATE, a disgrace.

You have 9,978 active Covid cases and 10,538 in self-isolation (the latter BC doublespeak for “have Covid symptoms but we’re not counting them ’cause we won’t and besides, there at home and won’t talk until the ambulance comes…then we’ll count them”).

Here is DON’T TEST, DON’T COUNT BC vs Canada:

https://i.imgur.com/36h0s6T.png

LAST populated Province I’d be going out dining 2-3 times a week in. But hey, if you get sick they will not count you, so it’s all good for the BC psyche.

Have to maintain that BC superiority psychoses alive (you know, it’s not cold there, little snow thus, we are better at controlling Covid – why psychoses in a non sequitur logic kind of way).

#83 Dolce Vita on 12.21.20 at 5:25 pm

#29 Classical Liberal Millennial

Omitted Sweden in the prior Comment (freudian slip, tired of reading all the Bash Sweden prose in the EU MSM as of late, forgetting they are a good people, just their Gov is not):

https://i.imgur.com/ryI5uTx.png

#84 Victor Maitland on 12.21.20 at 5:25 pm

@#55 Dolce Vita, there was a depression in 1920-21 before the economy took off again. We would have had one this time again, but we papered over it. That’s what makes me worried. The depression was allowed to run its course in 1920-21, with mass bankruptcies, deflation, etc… Creative destruction on a massive scale. We never let that happen anymore. Can we reasonably expect a boom to follow when every zombie company has been propped up and allowed to continue to soak up valuable capital for another decade? Capital that might otherwise not have ended up as malinvestment in some indebted zombie firm? A boom following this gong show would be a free lunch. I wish I believed it.

#85 Jake on 12.21.20 at 5:31 pm

“Bad public decisions abound. Why let Costco and Wal-Mart stay open in red zones when hairdressers, corner stores, vets and indy clothing stores are hobbled or shuttered?”

So true. Despite closing restaurants, gyms, salons, entertainment venues, the cases and deaths continue to climb. So where is the spread coming from?

Resuming in-class learning was a mistake. The cases soared as soon as schools resumed in mid-September yet, to appease the public, politicians sacrificed easy prey. Ford is now reverting back to online classes but only for secondary school. This is an admission of error and defeat.

#86 Handsome Ned on 12.21.20 at 5:33 pm

Some of you Scotch drinkers might want to try some of our Canadian ryes. I used to be a single malt Scotch snob, but Alberta and Ontario ( 40 Creek ) are making some entirely quaffable and one third the cost whiskeys.These are not your fathers 5 star.

#87 Reynolds531 on 12.21.20 at 5:36 pm

You know what I want? I want daily and ytd vaccination numbers published. The more the better and the government pushing every week to beat last week.

#88 theoryAndPractice on 12.21.20 at 5:39 pm

Scotch, Garth suggested made me post this : Happy 1 day to your bday, wish you were here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1jM1LrLfPg

#89 Brett in Calgary on 12.21.20 at 5:41 pm

A small bit of good news, the peak admission rate for COVID into Alberta hospitals appears to have been on Dec 7. Inpatients with COVID holding steady for last 7 days. Recall stringent lockdown measures were imposed on Dec 13… so curve was beginning to turn even before these came into effect. Hang in there, unless Christmas gives us a nasty surprise AB is headed in the right direction.

#90 Blair on 12.21.20 at 5:49 pm

I am eager to be vaccinated and am optimistic about the future. Humans are capable of great resilience and flexibility. Our race has come through worse upheavals than this. We even survive the stupidity, and the basest characteristics and motives (which are especially apparent on the internet).

#91 Adam Smith on 12.21.20 at 5:53 pm

This sort’ve sums up the vaccine situation:

https://www.thepigarse.com/post/give-me-liberty-or-give-me-death-states-anti-vaxxer-moments-before-being-devoured-by-zombies

#92 Diamond Dog on 12.21.20 at 5:56 pm

The UK is ostracized. – Garth

Yes, and it’s misplaced, most likely hysteria. Some media is trying to link it to a reported extinct Denmark strain that potentially had its own Serotype (antigenic Shift) but there’s no proof of this. No officials have ever publicly stated this. What’s most likely happening is the old strain subject to antigenetic drift, which is some level of mutation on surface proteins that doesn’t impact the characteristics of the virus.

I’ve talked about this at length over and over here at greater fool for months now. Covid19 will mutate to the point of reinfecting hosts with past immunity from infection or vaccine, over time. Antigenic drift happens quite quickly with the flu, requiring annual flu shots to keep up with mutations. With Covid19, while it’s unofficial, Scott Gottlieb has said in a 55 minute interview 2 weeks back on Youtube that Pfizer will need to repurpose or update it’s vaccine every 2 to 3 years. Scott didn’t give a timeline in a CNBC interview today, but he said once again there is drift forcing them to repurpose. Put both interviews together, and you get your answer:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/21/trump-covid-vaccine-czar-says-extremely-low-chance-pfizer-and-moderna-shots-wont-work-against-new-strain.html

Lets keep in mind, at some point as millions take the vaccine and the question mounts as to how long vaccines will last, the need for at least a market “best guess” answer from vaccine makers will grow. Regardless of the timing vaccine makers and governments choose, the answer is what I’m telling readers. It’s not for life, there is drift. Scott let some numbers slip a couple weeks back (2 to 3 years before vaccine needs repurposing) extrapolated 30 months likely at the most (3 flu seasons), with efficacy fading over time just like the flu shot but more slowly. This virus does mutate and with each mutation efficacy will slowly begin to fade. Therefore, what we are seeing in reaction to the UK is overblown. (the markets also reflect this)

“Fifth, this virus is slaughtering small business. Bad public decisions abound. Why let Costco and Wal-Mart stay open in red zones when hairdressers, corner stores, vets and indy clothing stores are hobbled or shuttered? It’s estimated ten thousand restaurants will not survive this. The CFIB says 160,000 small mom-and-pop businesses won’t be here in the spring. And recall that this sector creates over 90% of total employment. Do we know what we’re doing?” – Garth

We don’t, Garth. The virus is preying on deficiencies and our health leaders are wrongly silent over this. The evidence is there to determine deficiencies as a major factor in the spread and worsening of sickness & risk of death. “Oh, you had a grandmother die and she was taking vitamin D?” There’s more than one deficiency at play (Zinc also, including Zinc ionophores and Vitamin C. Seniors have the highest deficiency rates of both Zinc and Vitamin D). This is the best video I’ve seen regarding Vitamin D hands down and still, only 2 million views. NFL game highlights get more in the first hour, what’s more important to know and why isn’t government messaging this?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2mLz-Xdpg

With businesses in the U.S., the link below has maps that indicate business closures but when we look state by state, what we see is only partial closures in every state. If Ontario has gone dark, it is likely excessive (California is the only state you could compare it to with stay at home orders. Stay at home is justified only with local hospitals at capacity or overwhelmed). Legions of small businesses, already hobbled, will go bankrupt like you say:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/states-reopen-map-coronavirus.html

Can’t stress it enough how Trump flopped as a president, the numbers don’t lie. The impacts of his propaganda and misinformation campaigns have led to the most infected nation per capita larger than 4 million people, in the world. Only a small hand full of nations have more reported cases. Trumpism has infected the minds of a few regulars here too. I can only say, one can’t defend the indefensible so why try? It’s a waste of everyone’s time including one’s own:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Finally, I will repeat. When we look in depth at the U.S. one more time:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

What we’ll see in the numbers in comparison to the rest of the world is a nation with a leadership breakdown at the highest levels and a high percentage of media in support through propaganda, misinformation, conspiracy theory and shock and awe, complicit in supporting a failed message and policy.

First, it was downplay the threat of the virus and pump up the “state of ready”. That was followed up by not reporting government failures and spread (propaganda isn’t just what’s reported but what isn’t) and then refusing to report policy choices that should have been embraced (like wearing masks. Blame and mistrust Asia had better viewership since hate sells). What followed then was the coverup of failed policy and as the election cycle neared, embracing the policy of failure itself, herd immunity to justify all past failures.

“Only through everyone infected” will we beat the virus and become immune! Of course laymen like myself who looked into investing in Moderna early on like real money depended on it could have told readers that beta Corona virus antibodies from infection wouldn’t last either through antigenic drift or shift (shift hasn’t happened yet, cross your fingers) but you can’t tell this to people who either don’t have the education to understand the science, or possess the critical thinking to get there. Lord knows, I’ve tried. I really did try.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigenic_drift

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigenic_shift

#93 Tron Light on 12.21.20 at 5:58 pm

I will stick to bourbon. Thank goodness they didn’t close liquor stores (or beer stores or cannabis stores) I’m going to need a few bottles.

The only thing that would stop lockdowns is closing those stores. People would definitely revolt at that point.

#94 Garth's Son Drake on 12.21.20 at 5:59 pm

Trudeau: Don’t stress out over CERB

The government is admitting that communications in the first weeks of Canada’s Emergency Response Benefit (CERB) were “unclear” after more than 441,000 aid recipients received letters seeking to prove eligibility. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau moved to reassure pandemic aid recipients not to stress over repayment, and Employment Minister Carla Qualtrough told The Canadian Press that no one who’s unable to make payments will be forced to do so by year’s end. She said the mailing “sincerely was an attempt to get ahead of a very complicated tax time next year for millions of Canadians.”

#95 missed it by that much on 12.21.20 at 5:59 pm

don’t deny the virus but 2 things
1 Modelling was 6000 /day by mid Dec.. not even close
2why the long lead in to shut down?.. if hospitals are overburdened, would those 5 days not help stop the spread? and ease the admissions?

#96 Gramps on 12.21.20 at 6:01 pm

1 more bit of good news; Washington post says divorce rate is down.
Apparently when you have to spend time together, you figure it out.

We will figure this Covid thing out too. It may go like we want, or it may not. It may take longer than we would like. But we will figure it out. That’s not hope, that’s a
fact.
Focus on the main screen and not COVID in the PiP

#97 Matsebula on 12.21.20 at 6:02 pm

Sorry Garth. Disagree here because History teaches otherwise. The Roaring 20’s followed the Spanish Flu, which was multiples worse than what we have now and knocked out young, vigorous people. This isn’t fun, but it isn’t the end of society as we know it.

#98 kommykim on 12.21.20 at 6:03 pm

RE: #24 Tommy on 12.21.20 at 3:05 pm
If you want the shingles vaccine because you don’t want to experience the pain of shingles in old age, then you pay out of pocket for it.

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I disagree. It’s more than just about avoiding pain. My wife got it on the side of her face, and because this is an unusual location, she was misdiagnosed by a clinic doctor. By the time we figured out what was going on, it was too late for the antiviral and she permanently lost hearing in one ear and has scarring (though mild) on that side of her face. Nasty stuff.

#99 Dolce Vita on 12.21.20 at 6:15 pm

Well, BC as of 6 min ago not so good.

Hang in there Doc Bonnie…looking distressed to say the least. Not a nice thing to view especially from her.

https://twitter.com/cbcnewsbc/status/1341158747880603648

Predictable. Probably a lot worse as they test at 1/2 the Cdn average.

#100 Hopes and Dreams! on 12.21.20 at 6:32 pm

Sex crazed roaring 20s on the way…

https://nypost.com/2020/12/21/a-sex-crazed-roaring-20s-awaits-post-pandemic-yale-prof/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

#101 Wrk.dover on 12.21.20 at 6:42 pm

Shingles shot gun blasted the right side of my face at 25.

Lucky to still have two eyes.

M67NS

#102 truefacts on 12.21.20 at 6:48 pm

“Why let Costco and Wal-Mart stay open in red zones when hairdressers, corner stores, vets and indy clothing stores are hobbled or shuttered?” – Garth

We often don’t agree, but I agree with you here, Garth. It seems like an attempt to appear to be “doing something” when in reality, it’s counterproductive (redirecting all shoppers into fewer stores makes things worse, not better).

The collateral damage to small businesses is a real cost that seems to be overlooked by the powers that be…

#103 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 6:58 pm

This morning I woke with a rather nasty thought in my head:

“What if this isn’t the big one?”

#104 Russ on 12.21.20 at 7:03 pm

Tommy on 12.21.20 at 3:37 pm
FYI: Snow is falling across Metro Vancouver and it is sticking and people are getting caught off guard because the weather forecasters downplayed the risk of snow all weekend. And there’s a major power outage in Surrey right now. It’s the first day of winter on the West Coast and if it wasn’t for widespread work-from-home our transit system would not be able to cope on days like this.
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And rain, with clear roads, by 1:00 PM.

Yawn, another non-event on the Wet Coast eh.

Cheers, R

#105 Errol on 12.21.20 at 7:07 pm

Hey Garth, should $40 million be billion in point 4?
Great post!

#106 steve on 12.21.20 at 7:12 pm

time to give diamond dog a max character count restriction.

#107 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 7:12 pm

#31 Confusedmill on 12.21.20 at 3:17 pm

When the Avro Arrow program was shut down pretty much all the aeronautical engineers in Canada moved to Florida. I would say the brain drain to the US has been more or less ongoing ever since, especially in the STEM fields. I know quite a number of folks who went down for a job and never came back.

This is especially true in the oil patch. Many of the head offices are in Texas so people go down on regular work rotations. But then they see what their money buys and they stay.

#108 Flop... on 12.21.20 at 7:15 pm

#102 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 6:58 pm
This morning I woke with a rather nasty thought in my head:

“What if this isn’t the big one?”

//////////////////////////

Hey Plussy,

Where were your hands when all of this occurred…

M46BC

#109 Truth be tolled on 12.21.20 at 7:26 pm

#33 Prince Polo on 12.21.20 at 3:23 pm

Biden getting the vaccine live on tv, right now!

What angle will the anti-vaxxers take? Incredulous minds want to know……
___________________

That’s not a vaccine! It’s a truth serum.
The last one he took only had a 5% efficacy rate!

#110 Debtslavecreator on 12.21.20 at 7:27 pm

No recovery
Biden will lock Down USA late January until March
Martial law in effect
Economic collapse will accelerate into 2022
Then world war against Russia, China and iran
Hypersonic missiles will be the weapon of choice
See you in the quarantine camps
Sorry I’m not joking
I know

#111 zoey on 12.21.20 at 7:27 pm

Ardbeg for me , smokey and peaty !

Regarding technology, anyone in the communications technology sector is working from home. All those carriers that provide Internet access , wireless 4G LTE, fixed wireless broadband and 5G. The carrier’s are an essential service and are very busy rolling out new services and trying to keep up with the demand from the WFH’s.

The interesting thing about technology is its a great area to be working in bad economic times, except for the 2001 tech wreck of course lol it was very busy in the 2008/9 financial crisis.

This time we have a real push for EV’s , I think its mostly good. The only area that I see risk is so many of the systems are software based I really hope they are developing for security. These EV’s are basically an appliance now like a mobile phone, wireless connectivity, autonomous driving, your favourite apps etc..etc..Seems like a hackers dream.

#112 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 7:28 pm

#42 Tommy on 12.21.20 at 3:37 pm
“FYI: Snow is falling across Metro Vancouver and it is sticking and people are getting caught off guard because the weather forecasters downplayed the risk of snow all weekend.”

That system has made it over the mountains with up to 50 cm forecast for parts of southern Alberta (25cm for Calgary). That’s a lot even for us. So no “Christmas star” viewing for us tonight.

There was a line up at Co-Op today, which I had not seen before. I don’t know if it was covid or people just figuring they wouldn’t be going anywhere for the next couple of days.

#113 earthoundmisfit on 12.21.20 at 7:35 pm

@77 Cheese

It’s problem is not that it’s unaffordable, it’s problem is that it tastes like seaweed and iodine. Speyside man, Speyside.

#114 Mr Canada on 12.21.20 at 7:39 pm

Interesting 2020 numbers in the US showing the high number of Americans walking with their money and migrating to lower taxed states. NYC, NJ, Ill, Cali & Washington (many with dense cities too) are exiting in droves to Arizona, Idaho, and Texas. In the Southeast, Florida is seeing 1,500 new people a day, and the Carolina States are benefiting with the influx too. Fort Lauderdale and Miami real estate is up double digits in 2020. In Canada, not many choices to move from a tax perspective.

#115 LP on 12.21.20 at 7:40 pm

#72 Barb

I had hoped he would be more fulsome in his answer. But I guess we’ll know in due course if there be something to know.

#116 Dunning Kruger on 12.21.20 at 7:51 pm

#53 T-Rev on 12.21.20 at 3:53 pm

Anywhoo…For just the fourth time ever (and third time this year), I’ve decided to become a market timer. Cashed out of about half my equity positions today. Against the Bearded One’s philosophy, which tends to end in tears, but I don’t see much upside in the next two months, and what I do see is two months of volatility as we wait to see.

From which of the Dunning Kruger quadrants did you escape?

P. S. Please let us all know when the market hits rock bottom. Then we can all laugh at you together…. At your expense, of course!

#117 Dog Breath on 12.21.20 at 7:51 pm

“More than 80% of the people smugly Zooming in their undies and collecting full wages are in the education, government, insurance or financial sectors.”
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We’re all supposed to be in this together, remember?
It’s high time that those employed in the government sector take a 20% pay cut, especially the lazy, greedy teachers.

#118 Tripp on 12.21.20 at 7:53 pm

#49 Old man winter on 12.21.20 at 3:46 pm

Ottawa may not be the most animated and electrifying city in Canada, but it is clean, safer than most other, close to great outdoors options, the commute is still manageable and the people are amongst the best educated in Canada (and consequently, in the world). On the other hand, the housing is out of control recently and we occasionally have first page failures like the LRT.

Still a great place to raise a family and live a peaceful life.

#119 Faron on 12.21.20 at 7:54 pm

#107 Flop… on 12.21.20 at 7:15 pm

#102 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 6:58 pm
This morning I woke with a rather nasty thought in my head:

“What if this isn’t the big one?”

//////////////////////////

Hey Plussy,

Where were your hands when all of this occurred…

M46BC

Hahahaaa

And the post of the year award goes to… Phlop!

#120 TurnerNation on 12.21.20 at 7:58 pm

#7 crowdedelevatorfartz could it be Donnelly Group or Cactus Club/Earls & Co.
Donnelly does a decent chain pub, having been to Belfast Love, The Walrus and Death & Taxes in Toronto a number of times.

From the WW3 Dept. Wars are fought over…Land.
In 2008 the globalist companies such as Blackstone group and similar bought up tons of the foreclosed homes in USA. Article is at bottom ->

Today? Same same. IMO this is an economic takedown these shut downs, nothing more.
Oh yeah Ontariowe just banned Ski resorts. No fun allowed in this New System; which is also why Sports teams got banned from this country. Morale crushing.
I see the humiliating long lines outside of Dollarama in the cold weather. Kommunist style.
People seem to love it, it keeps us safe. 28 more days folks!! People would be okay boarding the boxcars, as long as they have the Wi-fi password.

https://www.newsweek.com/35-americans-could-lose-their-home-next-two-months-census-report-says-1556108

“The latest data from the Census Bureau’s Household Pulse Survey, taken between November 25 and December 7, found that 35.3 percent of U.S. adults are “living in households not current on rent or mortgage where eviction or foreclosure in the next two months is either very likely or somewhat likely.””

#121 crowdedelevatorfartz on 12.21.20 at 7:58 pm

@#107 Flop
“Where were your hands when all of this occurred…”

+++++

Good one Floppie

#122 Mutant Ninja COVID-19 on 12.21.20 at 8:05 pm

Garth, can we please vote TurnerNation off of the island, I mean blog? I know you Iove censoring people. You have our blessing. You’ll save a fortune on server storage costs.

And then next week, we can vote off the other guy… You know the one that makes incoherent rants and raves about nothing that nobody reads.

#123 the jaguar on 12.21.20 at 8:07 pm

Apparently ‘Lucy’ is a popular choice in Poland. Didn’t some couple have a Polish band play at their wedding?
I am finding myself more preoccupied with this introduction which I believe will occur Thursday at around noon. I will have the Wild Turkey at the ready to raise a toast to the coronation. Enough said.
O.k. everybody back to navel gazing about covid…mercy.

#124 Phylis on 12.21.20 at 8:09 pm

#106 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 7:12 pm
#31 Confusedmill on 12.21.20 at 3:17 pm

When the Avro Arrow program was shut down pretty much all the aeronautical engineers in Canada moved to Florida. I would say the brain drain to the US has been more or less ongoing ever since, especially in the STEM fields. I know quite a number of folks who went down for a job and never came back.

This is especially true in the oil patch. Many of the head offices are in Texas so people go down on regular work rotations. But then they see what their money buys and they stay.
———————

Mid 90s doctor and nurse cuts lead to a drain to the south. It was called a brain drain at the time…

#125 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 8:18 pm

#107 Flop… on 12.21.20 at 7:15 pm
#102 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 6:58 pm
This morning I woke with a rather nasty thought in my head:

“What if this isn’t the big one?”

//////////////////////////

Hey Plussy,

Where were your hands when all of this occurred…

M46BC

—————————

Oh geez. Locker room chirping at its best. Hey by the way your wife called me today but I couldn’t answer, any idea what she wanted?

#126 Drinking on 12.21.20 at 8:20 pm

(Let it be known I am wearing a tie while I type this. And pants.) Would not want to imagine it any other way! :)

Serious but accurate post today, we will get through this but we really need to take all precautions!!

Stay safe everyone!!

#127 Andromeda strain on 12.21.20 at 8:24 pm

#66 Bob in Hamilton on 12.21.20 at 4:32 pm

Back story on the dog in the cage in the photo?

Bob, sorry to break the news to you. He’s not in the cage; you are!
He’s there to make sure you stay there!
I hope you brought a treat for him.

BTW, welcome to a glimpse of your post COVID reset!

#128 Winterpeg on 12.21.20 at 8:30 pm

As you take you scotch break folks, tune in to the Christmas special “Elf” with Will Ferrell.
One of the best Christmas shows. On tonight.
Will take your mind off Covid.

#129 espressobob on 12.21.20 at 8:32 pm

Scotch is an overpriced asset class. P/E ratio out of sight. Bourbon on the other hand is somewhat unloved for some reason?

Contrarians know how to play.

#130 Millennial Surrealist on 12.21.20 at 8:37 pm

#80 Victor Maitland on 12.21.20 at 5:16 pm

Millennial Realist, what do you want Ford to do? Put an armed guard at your door to ensure you don’t venture outside?

______________________________

Not necessary. I already have one.

But how about leading by example and wearing a mask when in close contact to others like he is on TV, not visiting his cottage when he’s told everyone else to limit unnecessary travel and restricted them from doing so, stop skirting questions that are asked of him at his news conferences, stop giving million dollar hockey players special exemptions, and stop closing down small businesses which would have been a much safer approach than the sardine cans known as Costcohh!

Once you’ve done that, we can work on the second page!

#131 Steven Rowlandson on 12.21.20 at 8:45 pm

“Okay, time for a scotch.”
At last you said something I can agree with.
Would that I could risk the privilege of a shot or two of Glen Livet…. I live in my car… So it is a problem.

#132 Doug t on 12.21.20 at 9:00 pm

#12 mutant ninja

Hey Garth can we vote off Mutant Ninja off the island – I will volunteer to do “Survivor” challenge against them to make it happen

#133 Question for Diamond Dog on 12.21.20 at 9:02 pm

#91 Diamond Dog

Did you miss that info about the Russian front line Doctor who got Covid-19 in March and again got re-infected in October? This proved even natural immunity lasts 6 months. How can vaccine immunity for this Coronavirus last longer as you note?

#134 Blog Dog on 12.21.20 at 9:06 pm

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#135 Two Buck Chuck on 12.21.20 at 9:07 pm

#78 Left GTA on 12.21.20 at 5:11 pm

#67 I am a nurse in the middle of a covid hot spot. What do u do for a living? Anything of value that you add to society or are you just a troll taking up space on this planet.

If you came to this blog for sympathy, you might be sadly disappointed.

As for the temper tantrums.. Might I suggest you lay off the booze!

#136 Austin James on 12.21.20 at 9:32 pm

#79 calgary rip off on 12.21.20 at 5:12 pm.

Im thankful for all the good things in my life. I focus on not having to hunt and worry about survival like 10,000 years ago. Lights, heat, water, vehicles, medical care, food, most of that is taken care of. For now.

$$$$

I hear you, especially on the vehicle front. Did you know that if you order the new C8 corvette, you won’t get one until at least 2022. Forget a 2021! First GM had a strike in late 2019, then something about a virus in early 2020… Not sure what that was about, but it caused another delay. Apparently caused the onboard video recording system to lock up. Set the production schedule back by months.

Life just isn’t fair!

#137 Doug t on 12.21.20 at 9:48 pm

#135 Austin powers

I am praying that you are indeed joking – cause if your not – well let’s just say we as a species are toast

#138 Robert Ash on 12.21.20 at 10:03 pm

Hmm, Glenmorangie, Dhawhinne, Talasker, Spey…etc They say the Scottish tour of the Distilleries is a good bet… Ha, Ha….
On that note, I use to travel a fair amount, in my opinion it is really foolish not to get Vaccinated for Hepatitis A and B, it is nasty…. We need vaccines, for everyday life… CV is no exception in my view… Happy holidays, to everyone.

#139 Sara on 12.21.20 at 10:05 pm

#12 Tripp on 12.21.20 at 2:34 pm
“ The figures for Ottawa have remained relatively stable and much lower than other urban areas”

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-covid-19-figures-remain-stable-as-provincewide-lockdown-looms-1.5240059
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Ottawa resident here. Feeling very fortunate. Comparatively speaking, more WFH industry (less manufacturing, more government and tech workers).

#140 Bobby on 12.21.20 at 10:08 pm

Toronto “locked down” in November. Doesn’t seem to apply to Dollarama or Walmart though.. cases keep going up even with lockdowns…

they don’t work, folks. Just ask Europe which has resisted 1940. Facist lockdown are all the rage their these days… and the WOO_han flu keeps acoming.

#141 Sara on 12.21.20 at 10:09 pm

#28 Paragraphs please. You may have a good message, but for many of us, once we see a sea of words, we can’t focus.

#142 Sara on 12.21.20 at 10:14 pm

#49 Old man winter on 12.21.20 at 3:46 pm
#12 Tripp on 12.21.20 at 2:34 pm

“ The figures for Ottawa have remained relatively stable and much lower than other urban areas”

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-covid-19-figures-remain-stable-as-provincewide-lockdown-looms-1.5240059

No surprise there. I can’t think of too many places colder than Ottawa in the middle of winter… and I’m not talking about the weather there!

================
Try again. It is raining, no snow. The weather has nothing to do with the reason that Ottawa is doing as well as it is.

#143 The geek shall inherit the earth! on 12.21.20 at 10:17 pm

#136 Doug t on 12.21.20 at 9:48 pm
#135 Austin powers

I am praying that you are indeed joking – cause if your not – well let’s just say we as a species are toast

I’d really like to think I was … but in fact, that is MY reality.
YOUR mileage might vary depending on your personal circumstances. I’ve moved on. I’m not here to convince you of anything …nor call you a coward. That’s the prerogative of others. You can choose to live in a world of worry, that’s your choice. But I live each day and I’m not giving that up for anything or anyone… ever.
Survival One Oh ONE life to live; don’t squander it.

You can tell me that “we are all in this together”…but it just doesn’t get you any traction. Maybe a smirk when I realize how foolish it sounds.

#144 Slug Ford on 12.21.20 at 10:27 pm

#94 missed it by that much on 12.21.20 at 5:59 pm

don’t deny the virus but 2 things
1 Modelling was 6000 /day by mid Dec.. not even close
2why the long lead in to shut down?.. if hospitals are overburdened, would those 5 days not help stop the spread? and ease the admissions?

Great question, missed it! I appreciate your reference to the best comedy series that ever was, but I’m afraid I’ll need to avoid and obfuscate the answer. All I can say us that I need a few more days after having my family over at XMAS to get up to my cottage again after my cherry cheesecake. I know I might have warned you against such activity but those rules don’t apply to me. You know – rules are for fools!

To answer your other question about why I look like I pooped my pants on TV with my hands flailing off to the side like a robot … I did poop my pants.

All I can say is …. Get Smarter!

#145 Morrey on 12.21.20 at 10:32 pm

@ #10 Tommy.
i listened to my long-time excellent family doctor:

Shingles vaccination is the only way to protect against shingles and postherpetic neuralgia (PHN), the most common complication from shingles. CDC recommends that healthy adults 50 years and older get two doses of the shingles vaccine called Shingrix (recombinant zoster vaccine), separated by 2 to 6 months, to prevent shingles and the complications from the disease. Your doctor or pharmacist can give you Shingrix as a shot in your upper arm

Guys like you are a total waste of air. STFU.

#146 Till debt do us part on 12.21.20 at 10:50 pm

#95 Gramps on 12.21.20 at 6:01 pm

1 more bit of good news; Washington post says divorce rate is down.
Apparently when you have to spend time together, you figure it out.

Nothing could be further from the truth, Gramps. There is such a backlog of cases because things were closed for months and video meetings take forever. Besides, no one can afford the lawyers when you arent working.

BTW, you and Gramma might want to change your plans about sharing the same plot. Forever is a long time to share time with somebody. And in 30 years, Gramma won’t be looking so hot any more!

Domestic disturbances increase over 2020
Data from police across Canada reveal a 12 per cent increase in reported domestic disturbances

#147 Two thumbs up! on 12.21.20 at 10:58 pm

#105 steve on 12.21.20 at 7:12 pm

time to give diamond dog a max character count restriction

Do what I do. Give him the “two thumbs up”!
Just fling your thumb up twice on the tablet or smartphone screen and that should take you to the next comment.
Problem solved. Haven’t read one of his comments in months.

#148 George on 12.21.20 at 11:06 pm

Another lockdown for a bug with a mortality rate of less than 1%?

People suffering from medical conditions are having longer wait times ,some can’t get proper care

We have lost our minds .full blown Insanity

#149 DON on 12.21.20 at 11:07 pm

Dolce…

It was 1 degree celsius today and pouring buckets of wet snows and with the Alaskian storms and cold pacific windsheild it was/is bone chilling on the coastal areas of BC. The freezing rain is relentless…people are staying at home except for the shopaholics. Could be why the lower numbers. At least a foot of water in the last 18 hours.

We already had the roaring teens…the variables are in slightly different positions.

#150 Hiding on the Backstreets on 12.21.20 at 11:11 pm

@ #121 Mutant Ninja

Vote Turner Nation off the island? No way! I vote that TurnerNation is indispensable in these times. Ignore him at your peril.
I haven’t commented much during the C- Virus, hope to keep up more frequently.

Stuck working from home in Southern Ontario. Governments are clueless in this pandemic. And information is distorted. They think we’re children.
Call TN what you will, but call him ahead of his time.

#151 waltersafety on 12.21.20 at 11:15 pm

#116
Don’t worry the government workers, teachers, cops , will pay the price via the bullseye on their public sector pensions.
They will get an offer they can’t refuse like the rest of us.

#152 DON on 12.21.20 at 11:18 pm

#134 Two Buck Chuck on 12.21.20 at 9:07 pm
#78 Left GTA on 12.21.20 at 5:11 pm

#67 I am a nurse in the middle of a covid hot spot. What do u do for a living? Anything of value that you add to society or are you just a troll taking up space on this planet.

If you came to this blog for sympathy, you might be sadly disappointed.

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You and Doctor Know it all need to apologize. That nurse is speaking from experience and with concern. You know there is a vaccine for the behaviour you have exhibited.

#153 Paul B on 12.21.20 at 11:19 pm

Population of Ontario = 14.57 Million
Number of Covid ICU beds in use as of Dec 21st = 265

“For the want of a nail the shoe was lost,
For the want of a shoe the horse was lost,
For the want of a horse the rider was lost,
For the want of a rider the battle was lost,
For the want of a battle the kingdom was lost,
And all for the want of a horseshoe-nail.”

We have lost our liberty for want of some hospital beds.

#154 Fred on 12.21.20 at 11:21 pm

Too many cases. Too many dead. Too long. The whole world is being tested, and we are failing

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No. we are NOT failing. There is nothing we can do, dont you get it? They told you to lockdown in March? ..how did that work out given we are being told to lockdown again?

biology– the bug will move from person to person. THAT’S what little bugs do. And ya CANT stop it. Protect the vulnerable the rest GET TO WORK

closing a small antique shop and leaving Walmart/Costo open is the very definition of stupid.

#155 Know your Crowd on 12.21.20 at 11:22 pm

Garth, why don’t you do an unscientific poll of your crowd with some key questions about this situation? Questions like: are you exhausted, are you afraid, have you started abusing substances, are you willing to take your chances against Covid in the wild, will you vax or won’t you, to name a few. I think it would be an interesting temperature check for us all.

#156 Ponzius Pilatus s on 12.21.20 at 11:23 pm

#98 Dolce Vita on 12.21.20 at 6:15 pm
Well, BC as of 6 min ago not so good.

Hang in there Doc Bonnie…looking distressed to say the least. Not a nice thing to view especially from her.

https://twitter.com/cbcnewsbc/status/1341158747880603648

Predictable. Probably a lot worse as they test at 1/2 the Cdn average
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What is your problem, dolce.
BC is very well guided by Dr. Bonny.
The curve is bending down.
Stick with commenting on Italia, which is overwhelmed by the virus.

#157 HUNGRY BEAR on 12.21.20 at 11:27 pm

LOCKDOWN a cometh….

CERB cheques better be en route!!

#158 Buy? Curious? on 12.21.20 at 11:35 pm

Garth, you handsome prognosticator, the wealth divide is very simple problem to solve, don’t pay any debts! Jesus said money traders are worst (not you, of course!).

Speaking of Jesus, whatever happened to his first birthday gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh? Too bad this blog wasn’t around back then, eh? No wonder you never hear about his Dad. After his wife was impregnated by god, he took the money, had a side hustle and/or chick.

Merry Christmas! Don’t be a Joe! And steal your kids’ dough!

#159 George Watts on 12.21.20 at 11:39 pm

List all the closures. But you miss the highest most dangerous entry, wide open, welcoming thousands of known Covid infected. Our airports are unchecked and spewing out known Covid infections into our communities with Trudeaus forced stamp of approval. Why? What good does it do to close our businesses if Trudeaus NGO gangsters are trafficking sick bodies into Canada?

The UN applauds Trudeau for continuing to fly in “ refugees” Into open border Canada, just like the Open Door. Org George Soros policy dictates to the NGOs that are funded by him and do what he wants because he’s a oyshcopathic monster with money that infects and kills Democrat world wide. And guess what, those same George Soros funded NGOs applaud Trudeau for keeping the doors wide open. where do we draw the line with Trudeau? How many more have to die?

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-needs-to-ban-flights-or-test-the-passengers

#160 SOMETHINGS UP!! on 12.21.20 at 11:54 pm

DOCTOR Gottlieb….”UK strain already in the U.S ”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/21/uk-covid-strain-this-is-already-in-the-us-says-dr-gottlieb.html

Please pray for the UK and US citizens.

#161 Nonplused on 12.22.20 at 12:28 am

#123 Phylis on 12.21.20 at 8:09 pm
#106 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 7:12 pm
#31 Confusedmill on 12.21.20 at 3:17 pm

Mid 90s doctor and nurse cuts lead to a drain to the south. It was called a brain drain at the time…

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I have relatives in the medical field that left about that time and never came back (except to visit). Both nurses. Now they have a grown family, and their kids are integrated in US society and culture, and thus I don’t think none of them are ever coming back (except to visit, and I have been to visit them as well).

So ya I agree with you. There are some people who move from the US to Canada, but generally the flow goes one way. Even folks who work fracking crews often end up south of the boarder.

I also worked about 4 years state-side. Can’t say I loved it, it is a different vibe down there, but I didn’t hate it either (except for all the travel, I could have done without that). They were really welcoming for the first year, but after that every second question was “when are you moving” and “do you have a realtor I know a really good guy”. They want to absorb you and get your kids to join their kid’s little league team. To them, it is a little insulting that you are ok to work there but not live among them. In retrospect I should have moved.

#162 Nonplused on 12.22.20 at 12:43 am

#118 Faron on 12.21.20 at 7:54 pm
#120 crowdedelevatorfartz on 12.21.20 at 7:58 pm

Why are you two weirdos so interested in what I was doing with my hands????? Brushing my teeth is the answer. Then making coffee. But I will get to calling your wives back eventually. They are so sweet and so discrete.

#163 Stranger on 12.22.20 at 1:46 am

I’ll have one in the memory of the one and only Smoking Man. RIP, Jim. Your ideas of keeping fighting/betting/living to the max live on.
Such a loss at such a pivotal time… Can you imagine the comments he’d be posting here?
Had the privilege of crushing some beers with Jim – a unique experience. Ah, miss those days…

#164 Buy? Curious? on 12.22.20 at 1:58 am

Garth, you Santa Claus-like ex-benelovent, wise politicians and sonnet stud, I find it interesting how many DELETED posts you have that come from older right leaning posters. I think the collective age is indicative of a dangerous health trend. To sum it neatly, are old people losing their minds to the point that they’re easy to manipulate?

#165 Jane24 on 12.22.20 at 2:02 am

I have been beating the drum about the dangers of structural unemployment through automation for a while now. Every time a teller window closes at your bank or a human staffed till disappears at your local supermarket, the problem gets worse. These companies are dependent on us spending our money but if we have no wages to start with, the whole consumer house of cards will come down.

Plus without these jobs who will be paying in to support CPP, employment insurance and the full whack of govt services and govt employee pensions? Machines currently do not pay into the system the way that the human they replaced did. I submit that the only way out is to make automation pay into the govt system exactly what the human it replaced did. Slapping an operating cost on automation may also make global companies think twice about replacing that human.

Here in England the reaction to this new virus is bloody ridiculous. I live in a tier 2 but can literally walk into a tier 4 down the beach. How crazy is that? The virus has no respect for town boundaries!

#166 macroman on 12.22.20 at 2:04 am

Vax for measles, smallpox, polio were stable targets.

Mutations of flu and covid make vaxing a moving target with an unproven serum problematic?

#167 Longterm on 12.22.20 at 3:17 am

#106 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 7:12 pm

#31 Confusedmill on 12.21.20 at 3:17 pm

When the Avro Arrow program was shut down pretty much all the aeronautical engineers in Canada moved to Florida. I would say the brain drain to the US has been more or less ongoing ever since, especially in the STEM fields. I know quite a number of folks who went down for a job and never came back.

This is especially true in the oil patch. Many of the head offices are in Texas so people go down on regular work rotations. But then they see what their money buys and they stay.

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The so-called brain drains of the past and present are overblown. I left Canada for the UK and took my education and skills with me stayed for 10 years. The point was to travel and have an array of experiences. Then I came back with lots of banked money and applied my skills here to all round benefit. Two engineering friends from university left Canada 20+ years ago and one lives in China and never came back. The other worked abroad for years and then came back and now works when he wants and spends the money he banked overseas in Calgary. Meanwhile a couple I know from the UK and Germany moved here and work in animal sciences. Another woman I know who is from India is a radiologist in BC.

The point is that for every person who leaves another qualified person under the points system from a different field arrives. My Canadian doc is Polish [now Canadian], a new doc at the practice is English, my South African doctor friend works in the UK, and Aussie mate I knew touch in London and now Singapore, and a Canadian I knew decades ago is a theoretical physicist in the UK. Meanwhile another British mate with a PhD in energy research is moving to Canada. Round and round it goes.

Most of the people I know who are economic migrants who moved to Canada from abroad came here for a variety of reasons and income is only one factor of many. I’m sure there are some who are only driven by Texas house prices but those type don’t circulate in my orbit.

#168 Shirley Bond on 12.22.20 at 3:28 am

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#169 Arctic Gringo: Qalunaaq on 12.22.20 at 6:22 am

His professional opinion ruffled feathers with words that included ‘deferral’, ‘cliff’ and ‘negative 18%’.

He’s not going away just quite yet (a relative good situation, I believe), given the recent retirements, departures, etc., of other high level Fed, Agency, and BOC personnel within this past quarter.

https://twitter.com/ewsiddall/status/1339979673921609728

#170 BillyBob on 12.22.20 at 7:53 am

#124 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 8:18 pm
#107 Flop… on 12.21.20 at 7:15 pm
#102 Nonplused on 12.21.20 at 6:58 pm
This morning I woke with a rather nasty thought in my head:

“What if this isn’t the big one?”

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Hey Plussy,

Where were your hands when all of this occurred…

M46BC

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Oh geez. Locker room chirping at its best. Hey by the way your wife called me today but I couldn’t answer, any idea what she wanted?

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Ah c’mon.

This is not gormless garden-variety chirping such as from the likes of MF.

When someone so completely OWNS you with such a brilliant zinger, claim it as a badge of honour.

FLOP, you made my day hahahah!

#171 Diamond Dog on 12.22.20 at 7:54 am

#132 Question for Diamond Dog on 12.21.20 at 9:02 pm

“Did you miss that info about the Russian front line Doctor who got Covid-19 in March and again got re-infected in October? This proved even natural immunity lasts 6 months. How can vaccine immunity for this Coronavirus last longer as you note?”

Didn’t read about it ’til now. Readers, if interested read the links to understand why this should be considered an outlier and not the norm.

https://bgr.com/2020/10/30/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection-experiment-russia/

When we read the link, our maskless Dr. from Russia walked the hallways and rooms of infected patients with Covid19 breathing in high viral loads at will. Most people in the real world just don’t subject themselves to the kinds of repeated high viral loads we are talking about in this type of hospital setting, especially without PPE.

High viral loads matter. It’s why we wear masks. They don’t filter 100% of virus’s in the air, but knock the viral load down if its airborne increasing asymptomatic numbers while reducing severity of disease and numbers of deaths.

Secondly, “Chepurnov said he experienced fever, chest pain, and a sudden loss of smell.” Loss of smell is? Zinc deficiency! Our Russian doctor was most likely Zinc deficient to begin with and as a consequence was immune compromised. Sorry, but antibodies aren’t bullet proof from foolish behavior coupled with compromised immune systems.

Still, it’s an outlier and antigenic drift is what it is, gradually reducing efficacy over time. In more extreme cases like this, infections can happen in as little as 6 months, maybe less but this once again, this isn’t a typical case. Pay attention to the end of the video for a tip on how easy it is to detect Zinc deficiencies, modeled to be up to 2 billion people globally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwfeJJrbaO0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_deficiency

#172 George on 12.22.20 at 7:57 am

go get’em diane!

Diane J. Brisebois, president and CEO of the Retail Council of Canada (RCC), said in a statement that the government should have restricted in-person capacity to 20% but allowed stores to remain open to shoppers.

“It will always be the right decision to prioritize life and health, but the lockdowns we’ve seen over the past several weeks have created nothing short of economic carnage – lost jobs and businesses – without improving health outcomes,” Brisebois said in a statement.

“It has been a mistake to close most retailers entirely since stores are low-risk environments with approximately 1 in every 400 COVID-19 cases resulting from a retail setting, thus the reason why we proposed a 20% capacity restriction some time ago.”

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the inmates r running the asylum.

#173 maxx on 12.22.20 at 8:02 am

@ #27

Bullseye!

The first time I ordered a glass of “house” wine from one of these ersatz venues, it was an abomination. Worst part was the interaction that followed the request for a replacement. Horrid customer service, absolute total disregard of a customers (valuable) input on the lack of product quality.

Most of these establishments are very sorely lacking. Never again.

Huge yuck.

#174 George on 12.22.20 at 8:10 am

Dan Kelly, president of the Canadian Federation of Independent Businesses (CFIB,) said surveys show one-third of Ontario business owners do not believe they can survive another lockdown.

“Regardless of whether one thinks the government’s gone too far or not far enough, I would hope we could all agree that the decision today will essentially kill thousands and thousands of businesses,” Kelly said Monday.

“We certainly know it will mean that tens of thousands of Ontarians will be losing their jobs, thousands of entrepreneurs will be losing their life’s work, their business, and many, many are going to be losing their home as a result because the house is often mortgaged in order to get the business going.”

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best wishes ontario.

#175 crowdedelevatorfartz on 12.22.20 at 8:18 am

@#161 nonpulsed
“Why are you two weirdos so interested in what I was doing with my hands????? Brushing my teeth is the answer. Then making coffee. ”
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Two questions:
Those simian prehensile digits allow you the dexterity to brush a tooth?
You drink coffee AFTER brushing your teeth?
Gross.

#176 Diamond Dog on 12.22.20 at 8:20 am

#105 steve on 12.21.20 at 7:12 pm
time to give diamond dog a max character count restriction.

#121 Mutant Ninja COVID-19 on 12.21.20 at 8:05 pm
And then next week, we can vote off the other guy… You know the one that makes incoherent rants and raves about nothing that nobody reads.

#146 Two thumbs up! on 12.21.20 at 10:58 pm

time to give diamond dog a max character count restriction

Do what I do. Give him the “two thumbs up”!
Just fling your thumb up twice on the tablet or smartphone screen and that should take you to the next comment. Problem solved. Haven’t read one of his comments in months.

What do readers think, should I just retire? It’s an if/then. If I’m not contributing, then perhaps I should move on.

#177 crowdedelevatorfartz on 12.22.20 at 8:23 am

@#164 Jane24
“I have been beating the drum about the dangers of structural unemployment through automation for a while now”

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Errr the only thing you have been “beating the drum about” is your constant declarations of the property you have in southern Italy, southern England and your endless search for more in Brittany….
With a few shots about why anyone would still live in dreary Canada like your poor siblings.

The rest is moot.

#178 Q2 DUPLEX DRIVE on 12.22.20 at 8:52 am

‘ Why let Costco and Wal-Mart stay open in red zones when hairdressers, corner stores, vets and indy clothing stores are hobbled or shuttered?’

Because they got lawyers. LOTS and lots of lawyers. If Ontario was unwise enough to close all these giants like Wal-Mart, Costco &c., there would be planeloads of lawyers headed this way. And you know how THAT would turn out.

#179 Dharma Bum on 12.22.20 at 9:15 am

#10 Tommy

Shingles vaccines are not covered by any provincial pharmacare programs in Canada because they are essentially not necessary.
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What does paying for it have to do with anything?

I would rather get COVID than shingles. Have you ever seen what shingles does to people?
Complications from shingles can include:

Postherpetic neuralgia. For some people, shingles pain continues long after the blisters have cleared. This condition is known as postherpetic neuralgia, and it occurs when damaged nerve fibers send confused and exaggerated messages of pain from your skin to your brain.
Vision loss. Shingles in or around an eye (ophthalmic shingles) can cause painful eye infections that may result in vision loss.
Neurological problems. Depending on which nerves are affected, shingles can cause an inflammation of the brain (encephalitis), facial paralysis, or hearing or balance problems.
Skin infections. If shingles blisters aren’t properly treated, bacterial skin infections may develop.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/shingles/symptoms-causes/syc-20353054

I’ve seen folks with it, and it’s a living hell.

I’ve seen many with COVID (at least 11 friends), and the flu like symptoms they had disappeared after 3-4 days. My mother is 98 years old and got COVID. Meh.

So, when the COVID vax is available, I’ll take that too, thanks. I’ll pay for it too, if I have to.

I’m pro vaccination. It lessens the chances of getting particular diseases. Whether the government declares them “necessary” or not is completely irrelevant.

I also pay out of pocket for the prostate test (PSA). That’s also considered “unnecessary” by the government.

Every day, 63 men are diagnosed with prostate cancer. Every day 11 men die. But the PSA test is deemed “unnecessary” so we pay for it out of pocket. Early detection reduces the mortality rate by over 75%. But testing is “unnecessary”, according to the government.

https://www.prostatecancer.ca/Prostate-Cancer/About-Prostate-Cancer/Statistics

Go ahead and let the government decide for you what’s necessary and unnecessary for your health. See how that works out for you in the long run. Because your government really cares about you. Hahahahahahaha!

(Do you go to the dentist? It’s unnecessary, so it’s not free. Therefore you don’t need dental care, since you have to pay for it. Right?)

#180 crowdedelevatorfartz on 12.22.20 at 9:39 am

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#181 johnny on 12.22.20 at 9:42 am

Not sure why Garth you are pounding the table on the vaccine and demonizing anyone who questions it? Shaming people day after day on your blog is a pretty juvenile way of making an argument. When there is no debate allowed I get concerned. So we are told that one is selfish and a coward if you don’t take a vaccine which has barely been tested and also using a totally new technology of which we don’t know the long term consequences. Once again its the response to the virus which is causing all the huge problems around the world. A virus which basically kills people over 80 with at least 2 serious health issues already..I know people will say I am callous. But we are destroying our economy..bankrupting our ability to maintain our already pathetic health care system for decades..killing countless other people because they are not getting treated for cancer or screened for cancer, suicides, depression, anxiety, destoying peoples livelihoods, and on and on. And we are doing this basically because some already pretty sick people are being pushed over the edge by COVID and maybe our already pathetic health care system might get overcrowded. So the media and government talk only about COVID deaths as if nothing else matters in the world and no other deaths are important..who is being selfish here??? Why such a myopic vision of health?? Why so much fear over a virus that frankly is no worse than the common cold for the vast majority of people??

So take the vaccine like all reasonable people, and we can reopen the economy. How is that hard to understand? – Garth

#182 Ballingsford on 12.22.20 at 9:43 am

If family debt is exploding, how come they are saying people are now saving 28%. How can it be both?

Easy. People don’t spend, so they save more of their salary. At the same time they borrow fat mortgages. – Garth

#183 George on 12.22.20 at 9:53 am

9 mths in and :

Ontario Premier Doug Ford on Monday blasted the Trudeau government for what he called a failure to secure the border during the pandemic, saying COVID-positive international travellers have forced the province back into lockdown.

“We’ve continually — and I’m going to repeat this, continually — asked the federal government to secure our borders,” Ford said.

The premier said 63,000 people are arriving every week at Toronto’s Pearson International Airport alone, with no testing in place to ensure tracking of the virus.

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no testing?

how incompetent is our govt?

#184 Classical Liberal Millennial on 12.22.20 at 9:57 am

Hi Dolce,
I was not trying to say lockdowns don’t work but I don’t even know if you can call what we’re doing a lockdown. It’s more like… selective shutting of businesses.

#185 millmech on 12.22.20 at 10:04 am

Every time the stress seems to subside about covid, the media seems to just ramp it back up again. It is a never ending stress cycle that keeps people in flight or fight mode and being in this state makes one way more likely to get physically sick.
I know people who are refusing to accept Christmas cards because they believe they will get covid from the cards, these are hand made by their own grand children. Imagine how warped their your thinking has got when you believe that basically your own grand kids are out to get you. The grand kids themselves now have to get over feeling rejected by the grand parents also.
I wonder how bad it really is because my GF parents refuse to see their great grand kids, the only way they will see them in person is if we let them play in the yard while they watch from the windows of the house. They will not come out into the yard at all because of covid.
The grand parents also have really sore and raw hands from constant washing and using of sanitizers, from conversations with them (wash hands before and after using the phone) they seem to have developed an OCD towards this virus.
There is way more damage being done by this lock down as we will see in the coming times after vaccine day, I do not believe things will ever go back to normal for a lot of people.

#186 mike from mtl on 12.22.20 at 10:05 am

#178 Dharma Bum on 12.22.20 at 9:15 am

..I would rather get COVID than shingles. Have you ever seen what shingles does to people?…
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Yes my grandfather had that. How he put up with basically knife pain to the side of his head randomly for nearly 20 years.

#187 -=withwings=- on 12.22.20 at 10:11 am

“ The figures for Ottawa have remained relatively stable and much lower than other urban areas”

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-covid-19-figures-remain-stable-as-provincewide-lockdown-looms-1.5240059

Punished for voting liberal. And being careful.

#188 complicated on 12.22.20 at 10:20 am

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#189 Sara on 12.22.20 at 10:39 am

#147 George on 12.21.20 at 11:06 pm
Another lockdown for a bug with a mortality rate of less than 1%?

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Speaking of the dunning-kruger effect…

#190 Dave on 12.22.20 at 11:08 am

I know teacher bashing in comment sections is a popular pass-time, but speaking for myself and pretty much all of my colleagues, the last place we want to be is working from home.

Believe it or not, most of us enjoy being in schools and working with students. Remote learning for children and teens is not sustainable.

#191 cadmar larson on 12.22.20 at 11:22 am

What does WFH stand for?

#192 cadmar larson on 12.22.20 at 11:29 am

I have told all 7 of my children that 2020 is a remarkable year and this will be a pivotal moment in our culture: either a new path for stronger, healthier, and community well being over quick wealth at the expense over others; or a faster pace that we were on since the 1990s.

#193 Phylis on 12.22.20 at 11:32 am

#178 Dharma Bum on 12.22.20 at 9:15 am

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Fwiw I did the twinrix, first one, nothing. Second one, milf fever and dizzy for a day. I recommend on planning a light day after the second one.

#194 Phylis on 12.22.20 at 11:33 am

Uh… *mild*

#195 Tommy on 12.22.20 at 12:07 pm

Why am I being censored? Some comments show as “DELETED” while some just never appear. I really think the Zerohedge article on the 12 Principles of Public Health is an important one but both times I posted the link, the comment never even appeared, not even showing up as deleted. Some commenters copy and paste entire articles and Garth has admonished them for that saying to just post a link. I, respectfully, just post a link and it never gets through. That was an important article.

No it wasn’t. – Garth

#196 Tommy on 12.22.20 at 12:18 pm

@97 Kommykim and #144 Morrey:

You’re not getting my point. I am not saying shingles isn’t a serious disease. I am saying it does not pose a sufficient public health threat to justify public coverage of the shingles vaccine under provincial pharmacare programs or other public health funding. That’s why people pay out of pocket for it. If you disagree and you think the shingles vaccine should be covered by provincial public health programs then you should lobby your provincial government to cover the vaccine under pharmacare. NO PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAM IN CANADA COVERS THE SHINGLES VACCINE. Because, the pain it causes the elderly notwithstanding, it is simply not medically necessary, truly medically necessary. I would think right-wingers would understand this. Do you really want governments to cover ALL drugs and vaccines on the market without doing a cost-benefit analysis??? They have to ration and limit coverage to medically necessary treatment, truly medically necessary. Most dental work is not truly medically necessary either. And any dental work that is required because it has reached a truly health-risking state is covered by Canada’s health programs, they will pull your teeth out for you in the hospital for free.

People need to understand that choices and trade-offs are made and, no, not all vaccines are the same, not all are equally medically necessary or necessary for public health. That’s why there are some vaccines you pay for (eg Shingles, travel clinic vaccines) and some vaccines that are free.

#197 ts on 12.22.20 at 12:30 pm

“Fifth, this virus is slaughtering small business.”

Garth, you have always been a voice of reason; however, these are unprecedented times – insanely low interest rates, high unemployment , virus mutating, people scared to go out, etc. How and when this will end, nobody really knows. Will we ever get back to normal?

Why are small businesses being shut down? Is there high rate of infection in these places? Where is the data to confirm this? I firmly believe in supporting local businesses and will go out of my way to buy from them. I believe the government doesn’t have a clue on containing the virus except for the social distance and mask wearing rules. Small businesses should be left open just like Walmart and Costco, which I believe pose a much greater threat of infection due to large number of people in those stores.

#198 Sara on 12.22.20 at 12:30 pm

#195 George

LOL. What’s with the “whataboutisms”? Is that how you deflect from dumb comments that you make.

Let’s go back to the statement you made that I responded directly to which apparently got your panties all in a bunch. You wrote: “Another lockdown for a bug with a mortality rate of less than 1%?”.

Please elaborate, as in what makes you think that the lockdown is due to the mortality rate of COVID-19?

I’m waiting for an intelligent reply. Then if you like we can discuss the other “what abouts” you made in a lame attempt to support your other statement.

#199 Sara on 12.22.20 at 12:38 pm

Comment #195 from George that I responded to is gone. I’m taking it that Garth decided to delete it due to the link George included in his “whataboutism” defence.

Correct. – Garth

#200 hingadin on 12.22.20 at 12:52 pm

#195 George on 12.22.20 at 12:11 pm

take the insults elsewhere, Sara. Grow up

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

rate is slightly higher than i quoted.

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Sorry George, mortality in humans can only be discussed if accompanied by an enormous serving of emotion.

Hard statistics are irrelevant and only apply to the rest of the natural world. Never humans, who have now attained such value that deaths of any kind are no longer acceptable.

#201 Ross on 12.22.20 at 12:54 pm

Diamond Dog and Sheesh. Could you just read the CONSENT FACTORY INC article YEAR ZERO to understand my frustration. I admit the Dunning- Kruger thing was in poor taste. PEACE.

#202 Russ on 12.22.20 at 12:56 pm

cadmar larson on 12.22.20 at 11:22 am
What does WFH stand for?

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Working for husband. Usually done at home.

Cheers, R

#203 test_harper on 12.22.20 at 12:56 pm

Do you still recommend using LOC as an emergency fund?

#204 George on 12.22.20 at 1:06 pm

Why are small businesses being shut down? Is there high rate of infection in these places? Where is the data to confirm this? I firmly believe in supporting local businesses and will go out of my way to buy from them. I believe the government doesn’t have a clue on containing the virus except for the social distance and mask wearing rules. Small businesses should be left open just like Walmart and Costco, which I believe pose a much greater threat of infection due to large number of people in those stores.

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well said.

provide the data that tells me a small business with say, 8 people in it at one time is a big risk zone, meanwhile costco is packed?

also, WHY r people coming into Ontario with no testing at our airports , we are 9 mth in and testing kits r available? insane, where are our leaders? Let’s not forget they didnt protect our LTC facilities in the early going (at one point over 80% of our deaths were from LTC facilities). Was it a stretch that the old would be more at risk from a new bug, given WE SAW italy from afar ….good grief!!!!!

#205 Sara on 12.22.20 at 1:07 pm

And George? If you are still commenting here, one other thing. Can you please tell us what kind of “health care provider” you claim to be and where you work so that we can be forewarned. Thanks. :)

#206 Blog Bunny on 12.22.20 at 1:21 pm

I will never forgive the governement for making my religion non essential while Costco is packed way more during the pandemic than any church at regular times. You have no idea how many regular folks are angry. And this Bunny is ready to fight. What is the point of staying alive if I can no logner give God his due glory?

#207 Russ on 12.22.20 at 1:30 pm

Diamond Dog on 12.22.20 at 8:20 am
#105 steve on 12.21.20 at 7:12 pm
time to give diamond dog a max character count restriction.

#121 Mutant Ninja COVID-19 on 12.21.20 at 8:05 pm
And then next week, we can vote off the other guy… You know the one that makes incoherent rants and raves about nothing that nobody reads.

What do readers think, should I just retire? It’s an if/then. If I’m not contributing, then perhaps I should move on.
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hey dog,

Your comments seem more sensible then many posted so far. Don’t mind the trolls.

I suggest you stay in the game and Garth will decide if it’s too much.

Cheers, R

#208 Faron on 12.22.20 at 1:32 pm

Markets more or less shrugging off more bad US economic news. Consumer confidence dropped in Nov and is second lowest after pandemic low. Newish more virulent COVID strain. Ever expanding hack impacts. Trump getting squirrely as his tenure draws to an end. NASDAQ and Russell 2000 volatility spiking despite big gains in the indexes today. The only positive narrative in the market is the 2H2021 boom. That’s a ways off yet. US dollar up, long bond yields down. Lots of caution signs flashing.

#209 Faron on 12.22.20 at 1:35 pm

#193 Phylis on 12.22.20 at 11:33 am

Uh… *mild*

Hah. I was debating querying that one. We’ve all been “there”.

#210 George on 12.22.20 at 1:40 pm

Haha, poor angry Sara !

Your Trudeau boy is failing :)

#211 Rick Monday on 12.22.20 at 2:06 pm

Imagine if Dan Kelly from the CFIB actually created some meaningful action and lobbying as president of CFIB instead of whining on twitter all day like Walmart and Costco lobbiest’s did. He’s useless

#212 RyYYZ on 12.22.20 at 2:09 pm

I’ve been working from home since March. I’ve gotten showered and dressed almost every day. Hard to feel like you’re working when you’re wearing PJs and have got bedhead. Looks bad on video calls, too.

#213 Wrk.dover on 12.22.20 at 2:26 pm

So yeah, when I had that little old lady shingle virus upside the head at 25 years old, I was able to go back to work after a month, and for the next month beyond, when people were hammering with in 25 feet of me, my face felt every hammer blow. Owee!

#214 CL on 12.22.20 at 2:33 pm

#48 R on 12.21.20 at 3:46 pm
Covid has allowed the WFH introverts to shine. The loud distracting extroverts that think they are the smartest because they are the first to interrupt and dominate no longer have the social adrenaline to sustain them. Covid will allow people to now appreciate the quieter, focused leaders in the group .

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Well said and so true.

#215 Sara on 12.22.20 at 2:39 pm

#209 George, who said I was a Trudeau fan? If you are going to try to insult someone, make it relevant at least. Can’t you even do that right? Too funny.

#216 Bill on 12.22.20 at 3:16 pm

This is worth listening to big time.
I couldnt imagine a more ignorant leader than Trudeau.
Remember big Als inconveinent truth? By now there would be no snow to ski on those slopes (Mt Washington’s buried)….In general most people are sheeple and theres a never ending parade of bs neing strungout by leaders. T2 is an embarrasement on all levels.
https://omny.fm/shows/money-talks-with-michael-campbell/mikes-quote-of-the-year-candidates

#217 Diamond Dog on 12.22.20 at 4:33 pm

#200 Ross on 12.22.20 at 12:54 pm

Thanks. Peace. Read it. If this is your piece Ross, (I’ll critique it like it’s yours, critique is what I do, hope if you don’t mind) you’ve summed up the disruption of the pandemic quite nicely even though some points are exaggerated but when I read this:

“but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of any authentic public health threat that remotely justifies the totalitarian emergency measures we are being subjected to or the damage that is being done to society.”

This is the weakness of the piece (ok, there are others, comparing a pandemic to penal institutions is a bit off the rails, war on populism, normality, swears, way too many swears and hyperbole but I wander). When hospitals become overwhelmed, it forces governments to act. Just role play for a moment, your a governor of a state and your hospitals are overwhelmed by a virus. What do you do?

As care dwindles, more people die because levels of care drops as staff gets overstretched and burnout sets in. Someone is hauled in for example with a heart attack and no one is there to put them on a drip or spark them back to life. Doctors are hard to find, elective surgeries are cancelled etc., the masses want you to do something, the morgues start filling up, what do you do? Fed support is non existent and full of misinformation and disorganization, previous state plans relied on a federal approach leaving you to your own devises, what do you do governor?

It’s not a made up scenario, unfortunately. We can take a U.S. map like this one below for example and go county by county, check to see if local news fits the overall with searches to see if, in fact, hospitals in the counties outlined are in trouble and you’ll see it for yourself. More than 100,000 Covid19 patients are overwhelming a system nationally that’s normally functioning at 80 to 90% capacity this time of year and its enough to push it over the edge. This virus isn’t just tomb stoning old people, its hospitalizing people in droves.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours

I go to work, I put on gloves, glasses and ear plugs, I put on my PPE and don’t think anything of it, because I know PPE protects me. Is it so hard to ask the masses to wear PPE to get to work or shop? Mask up, wash your hands, don’t crowd, it is not. Get them to take a vaccine for the greater good? It shouldn’t be, no.

If that’s the choice, ask the gen pop to wear PPE, wash their hands and encourage the gen pop take some Vitamin D and Zinc (hasn’t happened yet by a politician that I know if, but one can hope) and take vaccines or endure overwhelmed hospitals and a crippled economy so people like yourself can compare the masses to inmates, you’re a governor, what would you choose? Shut down businesses? Schools? Leave it to the counties? How far do you go? Check the map below and see what other governors have done state by state (or aren’t):
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/states-reopen-map-coronavirus.html

If you are there as a politician to truly protect and serve, denial of the problem is not an option. (check the total cases per 1M pop, U.S. is at 5.58% confirmed infected in link below. Denial hasn’t worked. Check the rest of the state numbers) The choices made from there however, are always open to debate:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The strength of any blog is it’s truth. This takes self checking and pure research as challenges in a public forum is certain. Sure bloggers can serve it sweet, salty and/or bitter but however we serve it, its truth that keeps readers coming back.

The moment that we offer no support for our conclusions (don’t fact check ourselves, don’t do the research) and fall into the emotional trappings of exaggerating or distorting the truth or worse, intentionally misrepresent and misinform, the truth loses it’s edge and it becomes wooden, a practice sword at best waiting for someone to chop it in two in this life or the next.

#218 Gary Thompson on 12.23.20 at 12:38 am

cadmar larson, must be nice getting $6,765 per child tax free in welfare child payments CTB starting in 2021. This means your 7 children will get $47,355 per year tax free from Canadian taxpayers.

This is equivalent to $100,000 gross income a year at the highest tax bracket in Ontario. Just for having many kids. By the way, Ontario gives separate child welfare benefits too so this could easily top $125,000 a year or more equivalent gross income for 7 kids. This means over with Canada and Ontario child welfare benefits of close to $1,000,000 tax free from born to 18 years for 7 kids. This is equivalent to over $2,000,000 in gross income in 18 years for 7 years.

Canada is bankrupt and is going to end up
the likes of like Venezuela, Argentina, USSR, Cuba etc. many other failed socialists states, governments. Enjoy your free money now it will be worthless soon Canadians.