Going tribal

On Thursday afternoon, Toronto’s condo king, Brad Lamb, sent out a blanket email to his contact list – real estate agents, brokers, developers, clients and investors. “COVID-19 Must Read – World Doctors Alliance,” was Lamb’s subject line.

One day later, as we pushed our way through thick, cacophonous, anxious crowds in Pearson Airport, Ontario announced the GTA was locking down. So tomorrow the department stores, malls, hair salons, gyms, vets and restaurants will be empty. The closures will be for ‘at least’ 28 days. Christmas shopping – which allows most retailers to survive the winter – is kaput.

Lamb is a worried, frustrated person. In August he invited abuse by posting an open letter (and sending out another blanket email) claiming the virus is overstated, the health care system is unburdened and we should all follow the Swedish model of letting the bug rip through society, since most people never get that sick.

Mr. Lamb’s condominium business is hurting. Not alone. The Bay will be wounded as its flagship store shutters. Owen the hair salon guy’s probably down for the count. Air Canada? Dunno. The angst and uncertainty is palpable as the US inches towards 200,000 new daily cases and Ottawa claims our situation could be, per capital, far worse.

The desperation has many grasping for simplicity and non-equivocation. So Lamb – an intelligent, successful, articulate business leader – leaned on the shoulder of a bogus organization disseminating falsehoods. To wit:

It is also abundantly clear that the ‘pandemic’ is basically over and has been since June 2020. We have very highly likely reached herd immunity and therefore have no need for a vaccine. We have safe and very effective treatments and preventative treatments for covid, we therefore call for an immediate end to all lockdown measures, social distancing, mask wearing, testing of healthy individuals, track and trace, immunity passports, the vaccination program and so on.

Last Sunday I asked people coming to this blog to cease posting similar messages. That Trump won. The pandemic’s nothing. Masks and vaccines are tyranny. I debunked the Great Reset foolishness. But by Friday the comment section was a swamp of anti-vax, libertarian, live-free-or-die manifestos from hardened keyboard warriors.

Dorothy and I sat outside Gate D43 beside Starbucks, watching the masked masses and discussed this at some length. How did we get to closures and bubbles? Why did 73 million Americans vote for a guy playing down a pathogen that killed 250,000 in thirty weeks? What led to the blog filling with those who believe a global cabal’s trying to enslave them? How can an economy survive a pandemic or a lockdown, or both, when half the population rebels? When business leaders and politicians cry foul? Where does truth lie?

Stressed. We’re all stressed. If only there was a clear way out.

History suggests this is exactly the environment in which conspiracies take flight. Confusion, fear and victimization make us prone to simple explanations, then direct solutions. Hitler blamed Germany’s deep malaise on a conspiracy of bankers and industrialists, all Jewish. It was a threat to the Aryan people and he was the defender. Otherwise reasonable people supported him, hoping for a better outcome. He didn’t even have a Twitter account or Fox News. These days huge numbers have concentrated their hopes and dreams in a red ball cap. The battle is against the globalists, Antifa and the ‘China virus,’ threatening a way of life. Masks, greenies, public health cops, BLM protestors, pollsters, pharma, the UN, mainstream media and big tech are all vilified.

In this context tribalism and nationalism find a large measure of public support. It’s there in tariffs, Brexit, the Mexican border wall, Muslim travel ban, caged kids, MAGA and the withdrawal of US troops. But if Covid’s proved anything, it’s that walls are a fiction. We’re in this together.

“I’ve read your blog daily since it started and have observed the evolution of your frustration with the comments section,” writes Lloyd. “I actually rarely read the comments as I am mindful of my mental/emotional health but decided to do a quick scan of the blog and was “dismayed” by the tenor of the so-called conversations within.  The number of deleted and banned comments were remarkable.  And many of the ones you let through were highly questionable in terms of what I would regard as a standard of respectable behaviour.  If I were you I would not tolerate it. I can’t imagine this is not damaging you in some way (I know you’re tough but seriously….).  My suggestion would be to take a two week break and/or nuke the comments section for a period of time.  I think you should also have a much shorter leash for banning people – no “DELETE”, straight to “BAN”.  I really don’t know how you do it, sir.”

At Halifax airport we went through the Covid check. Safe Entry documentation. Photo IDs. Sealed transportation home. Fourteen days of quarantine. Each morning a direct communication from the government ensuring we have not set forth. But we are allowed in the back yard.

Before we left Dorothy mentioned the Toronto trip to the lady next door. “That’s scary,” she said. People in Lunenburg are now afraid of Halifax.

Vaccine cannot come soon enough.

228 comments ↓

#1 PVS on 11.22.20 at 1:49 pm

Two words Garth.. Thank you!

#2 Econ101 on 11.22.20 at 1:49 pm

“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”
-H.L. Mencken

#3 HUNGRY BEAR on 11.22.20 at 1:50 pm

GARTH on Quarantine for 14 days….. Perfect

LCBO Delivers.

Now Chill out!

#4 Penny Henny on 11.22.20 at 1:51 pm

Ummm,

first?

#5 TurnerNation on 11.22.20 at 1:55 pm

– Ontariowe business: It was Alphonse Kehaulic who called it that 8 = infinity representation/symbol. Toronto had 28 days, then 28 more days; now 28 days more – this time total lockdown and destruction of our way of life. UBI or Die. P.s. Watch December 2nd

Say…on Nov 25 they will be testing the Emergency Alert system here, I saw the ad on Weather Network site.
Whatever messages might they be blasting us with in the future? Curfews, #stayhome, army on the street, or good news?
The reason they are locking down in the bitter winter is, the cold will stop most protests. Strategic.

— The future. New Economist 2021 cover has USA flag torn on half. Could they be any clearer? Remember there is no longer any news. https://shop.economist.com/products/the-world-in-2021?redirect=US

— Current state, quote from another blog.

“Can’t go to the gym but booze, smokes and lotto tickets are essential services. This government and its supporters hate you, me and everybody else because they are moral narcissists. They are a genius class and us plebes do not know what is good for us and we certainly do not respect their “genius” so they hate us.
***Substance abuse and poverty have become state policy*** [emphasis added]

—- A small business owner (Yoga place) lashed out in October. Then it got worse in Toronto.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGvv52vgydr/
‘Once governments take away your rights, historically it is proven they do not give them back. We’ve already lost so much. How much more are you willing to lose?
Soon you will be out of shape, unhealthy both mentally and physically, relying on Pharmaceuticals and the hospital system. You will he doing all of your shopping at Home Depot, Metro, Walmart, and Costco. There will be no small businesses left’

#6 leebow on 11.22.20 at 1:56 pm

The state of minds is scary. We still have time to resolve this, as the situation is not as bad as late 20s Germany. But it may get sufficiently close if nothing gets done.

Seems, the problem can be attacked in two ways.
1. Giving the dog a bone. People need security and dignity – jobs, healthcare, way out of poverty, and social lifts. There is no way to do it without some sort of redistribution. That’s just the reality of it. Hopefully, that redistribution becomes a good investment in future growth. It doesn’t have to be a zero sum game. In any case, people should focus on their absolute wealth, not measure themselves relative to some bold guy in the Brazilian rainforest (Amazon – Bezos). It’s not simple, but it must be done.
2. Education. Trump’s sirene call is the claim that complex problems have simple solutions. He claims to be an expert in everything, from nuclear weapons strategy to epidemiology, and that all those stupid eggheads know nothing about the subjects they spent 20+ years studying. Some people are dumb enough to believe that BS. People need to recognize the BS and realize that the only reason he thinks he understand those topics is because his knowledge is superficial. Complex problems don’t have simple solutions.

#7 FreeBird on 11.22.20 at 1:57 pm

I have and will continue to talk to my family doctor about the vaccine and read the studies and so will my doctor and her colleagues at our clinic. My MDs encourage informed choice (consent) and respect my choice to research any new drug or treatment when/if possible before agreeing and see it as reasonable. My husb does the same. For any concerned about new vaccines/treatments/tests talk with your family doctor or other medical professional you trust about them incl any/all related studies. As my doctor said it’s just part of the job and it may help.

#8 Classical Liberal Millennial on 11.22.20 at 1:58 pm

I’ve suggested this a couple times but forcing people to leave a comment using a Facebook, Google, or some other social account that displays their actual name might make a difference with how flippant some of these people are in leaving ridiculous comments. Anonymity makes people braver (and stupider). You should consider it, Garth. No more anonymous made-up names that can be changed on the fly!

#9 Tbone on 11.22.20 at 1:59 pm

It’s snowing and I’m not scared .
Stay home and watch football .
Everything will be better sooner or later .

#10 Indigirl on 11.22.20 at 2:05 pm

I like these posts about your comments section and I encourage you to keep telling us about them. I am surrounded by like-minded people and need this reminder that there are indeed people who do not think like me nearby, and far closer to me than our southern neighbours. While I am sorry you need to put up with that garbage, reporting on that garbage is valuable.

Plus, and from an entirely selfish viewpoint, I like your comments section because there are sometimes nuggests of gold. Thanks to your comments I learned invaluable information that is helping me navigate my divorce agreement – advice I have not heard anywhere else and even came as a bit of a surprise to my family law lawyer.

Carry on Garth, please. .

#11 espressobob on 11.22.20 at 2:09 pm

My shirt sleeve is already rolled up…

#12 Drill Baby Drill on 11.22.20 at 2:10 pm

“He didn’t even have a Twitter account or Fox News” This is true Blog God but most of the German people only had access to German newspapers and just before WW2 the Nazis provided every household with a German made radio. The the propaganda machine really kicked into high gear. That is one of the big reasons Hitler pulled this off.

People believe what they are told. Just ask QAnon. – Garth

#13 NSNG on 11.22.20 at 2:14 pm

I think part of the reason for all the fear is people know they are being lied to. With all the conflicting data coming out, the constantly changing guidelines, and the willful blindness regarding solutions and mitigation, people can easily figure out that things are not as they appear.

As you know, the only time you lie (if you are that type of person, I’m not condoning lying) is when the truth is even more harmful. Governments and people in power do this type of thing all the time. So when the people see our leaders go all over the map with the ‘truth’, it is natural to think something more harmful is being hidden and this is why people are so fearful.

#14 Paul on 11.22.20 at 2:15 pm

Eighteen months ago I spoke with a restauranteur about selling the business. He want to try and fine a buyer on his own to save on fees. I still crunched the numbers and gave him a price to shoot for. At the the I had a couple of possible investors. He contacted me last week to see if there was any possibility of selling, I think it has almost no value at this point is was worth 800k, so he needs a Greater Fool. Home and business blanket mortgage this will not end well.

#15 C V on 11.22.20 at 2:17 pm

When Covid first started I thought it would be a challenging year. Now I am more certain that the challenges related to COVID will likely remain for a few years and are going to be very difficult for many. Some of those difficulties will be expressed here in the comment section to vent, explore ideas and learn. In a small way it may be a force for peoples mental health.

maybe I’m being overly optimistic

#16 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 2:18 pm

First, I hope Garth that you and Dorothy are not discriminated against by the locals for your sojourn to Toronto. My heart goes out to you on that.

Chin up as always My Liege.

-Your enfant terrible from Il Bel Paese.

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I like it Garth that you came out with Aryan, Nazi terms about the darkness that walked our European streets a mere 80 years ago and drew comparisons to what we see today in our MSMs.

What happens when you let a beyond all words demented minority take power and dictate to the vast majority what is “good and right” and what they believed was “evil”.

On that note, DEAR LLOYD with your dismay, delete and ban calls…observe that history is a good teacher and learn from her.

Your right, might and call for NO COMMENTS is another’s anathema. We live in a democracy and in that there are opinions from all corners. Silencing them only creates subterfuge and discontent, the latter to say the least.

Recall what happens when a minority dictates to the majority. So have a care with the vitriol.

#17 Swanson on 11.22.20 at 2:18 pm

“Bill Clinton observed that when people are uncertain, they’d rather have leaders who are strong and wrong than right and weak.”

– FASCISM: A WARNING by Madeleine Albright

#18 Doug t on 11.22.20 at 2:18 pm

I sometimes wonder that even when an effective vaccine is given and most get it, that the world is truly in a bad way and that the pandemic was just a “sideshow” – what if we get through this and the world finds another “event” just to replace the chaos we are currently living in – perhaps the world is broken and there is a self fulfilling prophecy playing out

#19 50 YEARS OF MAPLE LEAF INCOMPETENCE! on 11.22.20 at 2:19 pm

OMG GARTH, SHUT DOWN THIS BLOG NOW!!!

SEND THE AMAZONS TO TORONTHOLE!

THERE ARE MILLIONS OF SNOWFLAKES FALLING ON TORONTURDS AND GTAHOLES!

THIS IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY!

EVERYONE COME TO THE 6 AND BRING YOUR SHOVEL!

WE ARE IMPORTANT!

#20 jerry on 11.22.20 at 2:29 pm

The main lesson of the 1919 Spanish Flu was not about Social Distancing.

It was about Social Trust.

People realized that a single family member or a neighbour could potentially kill off an entire community.

#21 Handsome Ned on 11.22.20 at 2:35 pm

“We know that as the rate of contagious pathogens in the environment increase, the degree to which a society becomes authoritarian increases. And very rapidly.”

Jordan Peterson circa 2018

#22 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 2:36 pm

The World has gotten itself in QUITE the pickle with the DAMN VIRUS.

Yes, the vaccine(s) cannot come SOON ENOUGH.

Though I believe that is going to take some time. I also believe statistical virus efficacy a mere numbers game, guesstimates, that will give us all hope where hope will be dispensed over a period of the next 3 years if the producers of vaccines are to be believed.

Canada in my view is doing comparatively well to many other countries, only time will tell.

I also believe Canada has stumbled all of the way (ventilators, PPE shortages, late to the table on Rapid Tests, will probably stumble in vaccine inoculation, etc.) YET Canada is doing OK regardless of the DOOM and GLOOM portrayed in the Cdn MSM. Witness by comparison:

1. Europe.
2. The United States of America.

I conclude it is the GOOD PEOPLE of Canada that make the difference and not their Gov’s* (the latter the Keystone Cops out for a day in the real World).

*Though some sympathy to Gov Canada trying to herd 14 cats whose strategy of compliance involves emptying the “Company” larder. Trudeau et. al. need to step in and invoke a national strategy for containing S. L. Pathogen until the vaccines arrive.

-FWIW

#23 Balanced Old Bag on 11.22.20 at 2:37 pm

Not looking to have comment published, just wanted to encourage you to keep on!
How about this idea, which you’ve prob thought of already; a “like” button, or reason facsimile. “Disagree”, Whole-heartedly agree”, etc? I believe the masses are with you, they’re just silent:)

#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm

I think Trump will do something to crash markets if he doesn’t get his way. I think he lost fair and square but he’s going scorched earth on the way out.

#25 Kathy Turner on 11.22.20 at 2:42 pm

Garth; Just, thank you! You, as always, are a clear voice of reason.

#26 SoggyShorts on 11.22.20 at 2:52 pm

I gotta agree with the email you got regarding the comments. I get that people can be stupid or at least ill-informed, but there’s no excuse for being rude to our host.

@the new breed of anti-vaxx or vax- hesitant.. whatever you call those who want everyone else to go first (ignoring the thousands of testers who already went first) or to wait a year or more for possible side-effects to be made more clear:

1. There are loads of unknown side-effects of catching Covid too, and unlike the vaccines, we’ve actually seen evidence of them. Yes, most recover quite well, but even some athletes are getting things like permanent heart damage.

2. Waiting too long gives the bug a chance to mutate which could render the vaccines useless.

So, there are some unknowns on both sides, and risks to both- and neither you nor I know for certain what the balance is, so why not make the choice that gets us out of lockdowns?

If it’s a coin toss either way but getting jabbed means that it’s over soonish while not getting jabbed means it’s over…never?

It’s not even about being selfish or not.

TL;DR:

♦Catching Covid has side-effects and letting it rip doesn’t end the pandemic.
♦Getting vaccinated might have side effects but ends the pandemic.

The choice between those 2 should be pretty obvious.

#27 Prince Polo on 11.22.20 at 2:55 pm

Brad Lamb has absolutely no business spreading COVID lies and there will be no repercussions for doing so. Alas, some believe that just because it’s on the internet, it must be true! Also, anonymous posting leaves no consequences, so people are emboldened to act irresponsibly with no empathy, and occasionally with overtones of overt dickishness.

Please sir, consider upvotes and/or verified identities in the comments section, in order to allow our collective sanity to heal!

Godspeed the lil’ vaccine that could…we need you now, more than ever before!

#28 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 3:03 pm

As much as I like lambaste Sweden’s Gov on their COVID-19 laissez-faire attitude today a dark day for them, never mind last night’s NBC Nightly News assassination of their efforts to date (TODAY frontpage news from their largest daily news organization, Aftonbladet):

“Ny coronarapport: Sverige är sämst”

Google the translation on your own.

Have travelled their beautiful country and fallen in love with their people (other than when they nude sunbathe it seems everywhere in Italia), a sad day for me to read that from their people – they are very community oriented and THAT is reflected in their dailies.

Yet, their knucklehead lefty social re-engineering PM says all is well. Listen to your people instead Mr. PM, there is wisdom there.

It will get better Sverige. The vaccines will arrive. And all the BEST to you from Italia and me.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/kRvxgQ/ny-coronarapport-sverige-ar-samst

#29 Stan Brooks on 11.22.20 at 3:06 pm

Mr. Lamb is highly successful by Canadian standards and obviously a very intelligent guy. With confidence in our supreme, wonderful health care system. i.e. politically correct.

I absolutely align with his view in that matter. Let’s follow his advice and see what happens.

In my view he is 10 times as intelligent and probably 100 times as rich as the leadership of BoC, the poor bureaucrats in charge of our money.

I don’t understand the reasons for his worries though, does he not read this blog? He should know that this is the land that will be flowing with milk and honey and condo prices will apparently skyrocket pretty soon.

So calm down Mr. Lamb, have a glass of Jonnie black label as me and enjoy life, there is no way with this stupid sheeple you won’t get much richer in the future.

Cheers,

#30 Tripp on 11.22.20 at 3:09 pm

We had over eight months to protect the vulnerable, most of them elderly, with preexisting conditions, the majority in long term care. It did not happen, and again, they are unfortunately the most exposed to this new wave.

Strangely enough in US, if one contributes to such a failure but can present it as a success, can receive an Emmy. In Canada, we can certainly do better.

#31 Dmitry on 11.22.20 at 3:12 pm

Garth, the comparison to Germany is a bit misguided because conclusions are wrong. What really worked in Germany was propaganda. It also worked in Soviet Union of the same time period. And it worked more recently in Russia where 9 out of 10 people believed crazy statements about Ukrainians despite having unrestricted access to Internet. Obviously Germans in 1930s had no chance if people today fall hard for propaganda when they do have access to global Internet.

But the question is what you label as propaganda today. For example mask wearing might just as well turn out as smoking dis back in 1950s- first considered normal and even useful in some cases and then you know the rest of the story. That is entirely possible outcome and can’t be dismissed at this point. And while we are at it, 5G is not proven to be safe either- having 25GHz transmitter on your body might end up to be a problem afterall. So don’t rush to label folks crazy and ignorant so easily, you don’t know the future any better than they do.

And yes, covid has way too much propaganda around it. And government action is out of control, and likely has far reaching consequences.

#32 wallflower on 11.22.20 at 3:17 pm

Atlantic doing SUCH a better job of it than Ontario and BC.
Our experiences with the self isolation period (multiple now) is nothing, no follow through, and zero suggestions for how to even get from airport to city early in year to recently, one single e-contact inquiry over a two week period.

#33 joblo on 11.22.20 at 3:21 pm

Name change….
from Kanada
to Gong Show.

#34 wallflower on 11.22.20 at 3:22 pm

Are you kidding? Then you expect those of us who refuse to join the matrix to do so?
This is one of the single most special features of this comments section. We avoid the very scary matrix of facebook et al. If anything, this blog is anti-sheeple. Or did I get that all wrong?

IN RESPONSE TO

#8 Classical Liberal Millennial on 11.22.20 at 1:58 pm
I’ve suggested this a couple times but forcing people to leave a comment using a Facebook, Google, or some other social account that displays their actual name might make a difference with how flippant some of these people are in leaving ridiculous comments. Anonymity makes people braver (and stupider). You should consider it, Garth. No more anonymous made-up names that can be changed on the fly!

#35 Public health failure on 11.22.20 at 3:22 pm

Funny how Canadians were poking cruel, sick fun as covid was ‘running amok’ (little bugs tend to do that, virology 101)

And now? Toronto is shutting down again ?

You Canadians still smirking?

#36 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 3:22 pm

#26 SoggyShorts

“Waiting too long gives the bug a chance to mutate”

My biggest worry as well though the medical community seems unanimous in that it is a very slow mutating virus. I hope they are correct.

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And, have a care calling people “stupid or at least ill-informed”.

Recall you live in the most educated country on Planet Earth; thus, give the benefit of doubt and be open minded to/with your fellow citizens – there may well be learning there.

Google [verb] this:

“Here Are the 10 Most Educated Countries in the World”

#37 JSS on 11.22.20 at 3:24 pm

Lloyd is right. Many of the comments suck on here. Getting worse.

Why not have the comments section activated on weekends only. When the Porsche dudes come out to talk finance

#38 WTF on 11.22.20 at 3:27 pm

#27 Brad Lamb has absolutely no business spreading COVID lies”
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The entire CDN RE industry is based on lies. At least he’s consistent.

Help is on the way!

Zillow now showing price reductions, I suspect they are data scraping prices paid so full disclosure IS coming in spite of TREB’S 10 year battle to screw the consumer on behalf of their vested interest….agents.

EG: DT Van 25% price drop. Not yet time to vulch but the winds are blowing in that direction.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/63-Keefer-Pl-TOWNHOUSE-Vancouver-BC-V6B-6N6/2078913694_zpid/

#39 paul on 11.22.20 at 3:28 pm

#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm
I think Trump will do something to crash markets if he doesn’t get his way. I think he lost fair and square but he’s going scorched earth on the way out.
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Yes he most likely did, But why not do the recounts and look at the Dominion machines and satisfy the naysayers?

#40 Dennis the Noble One on 11.22.20 at 3:30 pm

SPOILER: City of Toronto selling the park lands to condo developers:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/city-legal-action-toronto-carpenter-toronto-tiny-shelters-unhoused-people-1.5811589

#41 American on 11.22.20 at 3:33 pm

Was sad to read Canadian sentiment critizing, even mocking covid spread in USA . Canadians were proud of their careful covid response

Well, Toronto is shutting down again ?

Perhaps Canadian public failure ?

No more smirking I guess

#42 DM in C on 11.22.20 at 3:35 pm

“Facebook, Google, or some other social account that displays their actual name ”

You mean, outside of sock puppet accounts and bot/troll farms.

#43 SomeDude on 11.22.20 at 3:39 pm

This whole situation has been fumbled from the start.

In a few years we will look back in wonder at people being locked in their homes, harassed in the street by the police, forced to wear masks (that don’t even work) etc.

The Hong Kong virus of the late 60s killed more people than COVID and didn’t require the totalitarian response we have witnessed.

The virus has only revealed an underlying hysteria in our society largely driven by social media. In January of this year there was a bit of snow that closed our university. Everyone was clamoring for cancellations.

Sometimes I post provocative things here just to inject a little bit of the buzz I see around. I don’t know what I think about the situation because my opinions change daily. I’m always trying to think from different angles.

People are trying to fathom the reasoning behind these decisions. Unfortunately the most rational explanation is that the people in charge of Western countries are fools. They don’t know what they’re doing and they have little real life experience. They have worked their way up the political ladder by being greasy sycophants and opportunists but have never really done much else.

#44 Peppy Sue on 11.22.20 at 3:52 pm

A bright spot on Friday was a meeting with our Financial Advisor (fiduciary). Leanne took us through an update showing that even during this time of turmoil we continue to save and prosper by staying invested. Our B&D portfolio has withstood it all.

#45 Dougie on 11.22.20 at 3:54 pm

Garth: If you want to do your bit to help to combat the flood of conspiracy theories that have infected the comments section, close it down totally until this lunatic period is past. Those who read the blog for its informed opinion will continue to do so. Those who use it as a megaphone to spread their venom and rev up their deluded fellow-believers will go elsewhere.

#46 SomeDude on 11.22.20 at 3:54 pm

Addendum to my previous post.

https://preview.redd.it/5v7vgr2fiq061.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a9cf9edc555b8cee708b97cff0c1c574ed62e8d3

#47 dosouth on 11.22.20 at 3:55 pm

I guess my question has always been, how do you stop the world, get off, hibernate and then get on again? We are starting a build and have been able to continue doing most things on line from design to now applying for the build permit.

Once masks are found not to be the end all who is going to run the ship in Ottawa as the PM becomes the angry father that no one listens to any longer. Unfortunately, I can see that coming.

Trudeau turns to the bully pulpit

#48 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 3:56 pm

#36 JSS

NO. Lloyd is not correct.

He uses email subterfuge (a kind way of saying “behind people’s backs”) to effect his dim views about the opinions of others written here and subject to the scrutiny of peers out here in the “open”.

At least you have the decency to write your opinion here.

I disagree with you since reading what your fellow citizens have to say results in learning provided you are open minded to the views others than you own.

Discourse is a beautiful thing. So said Plato in his Apology recalling Socrates speeches at his trial and in so many words:

“An unexamined life is not worth living”.

Better yet:

“Gnothi se auton.”

and not that of narrow minded narratives, self-fulfilling narratives.

CENSORSHIP, which in effect is what you and Lloyd call for is not a good thing, at all.

And look it, having worked the 2 short times with Garth on stories here on his Blog, you come to understand very QUICKLY Garth is nobody’s fool though he calls his Blog that.

Garth will make the call on his own and needs no advice from you or “subterfuge” Lloyd.

I have faith he will do what is correct for him and it will be his good decision without anyone’s assistance esp. that of want to be censors that believe their narrative superior to that of others.

Recall:

Hubris and ego never end well.

#49 majik on 11.22.20 at 3:57 pm

I do not think it is unreasonable to question the safety and efficacy of vaccines that would under normal circumstances be considered “rushed to market”. We are not in normal circumstances of course but that doesn’t mean that the proper checks and balances for vaccine development should be cast aside so hastily.

It’s very likely that Phase 4 trials will be a live trial on our healthcare workers and hospital staff. I do not agree with this and I also don’t agree that a vaccine developed in this way should be quickly foisted upon the public with a mandatory order.

Phase 4 trials and reviews usually take 2 or more years. I believe it is not unreasonable for the government to wait this period of time before it makes any decision about a mandatory order. This will also give the public time to make an informed choice with a full set of data. Time brings perspective and clarity.

#50 Hanging out in YYC on 11.22.20 at 3:57 pm

I agree with Lloyd. Put the comment section in quarantine and give it a time out. We are all overloaded with COVID information, do we really need more?

This is YOUR blog, we appreciate all the financial advice and the doggo pics. Ditch the comments for your mental health (and ours).

#51 Al on 11.22.20 at 3:57 pm

“Yes he most likely did, But why not do the recounts and look at the Dominion machines and satisfy the naysayers?”

Youre assuming the naysayers are doing so based on reason, this all based on emotion. Nothing will satisfy. Evidence is off little use in persuading them.

#52 waltersafety on 11.22.20 at 4:08 pm

Garth your constituents are readers . What do you expect?

#53 looking up on 11.22.20 at 4:09 pm

#42 SomeDude on 11.22.20 at 3:39 pm
This whole situation has been fumbled from the start.

In a few years we will look back in wonder at people being locked in their homes, harassed in the street by the police, forced to wear masks (that don’t even work) etc.

The Hong Kong virus of the late 60s killed more people than COVID and didn’t require the totalitarian response we have witnessed.

The virus has only revealed an underlying hysteria in our society largely driven by social media. In January of this year there was a bit of snow that closed our university. Everyone was clamoring for cancellations.

Sometimes I post provocative things here just to inject a little bit of the buzz I see around. I don’t know what I think about the situation because my opinions change daily. I’m always trying to think from different angles.

People are trying to fathom the reasoning behind these decisions. Unfortunately the most rational explanation is that the people in charge of Western countries are fools. They don’t know what they’re doing and they have little real life experience. They have worked their way up the political ladder by being greasy sycophants and opportunists but have never really done much else.

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Western leaders are fools because of their extreme Covid response? Really “Dude”?

China contained Wuhan by surrounding it with military, Hong Kong shut down their borders. Japan went into lockdown, cancelled the Olympics etc etc.

Only Western leaders?

And what experience do you have with dangerous viruses Pray tell?

#54 MF on 11.22.20 at 4:13 pm

Powerful post. All points completely correct.

I will say it is only natural that people will be frustrated during the current situation. We still live in a pluralistic society, where healthy criticism and critique is necessary. However, it is a fine line between such critique and the spreading of dangerous conspiracy theories or dangerous advice. It is mostly incumbent on the individual to be able to recognize the difference. This is where it gets difficult since some people are liable to believe conspiracies that confirm their own insecurities/fears/biases and cynicisms. All of these emotions are negative, and it serves no value entertaining them whatsoever.

The veer into conspiracy is pretty easy to understand. It stems from, like Garth mentioned, the human mind’s need to simplify any situation to basic cause and effect. This need, also like Garth mentioned, can be easily exploited by others for their own gain. Conspiracy theorists can also get an artifical ego boost as they portray themselves to be smart enough to be “in on it”, whereas everyone else is not. Anyone not smart enough to see the sham for what it is and believe the conspiracy theorist will add to this fake ego boost. There are a few posters in the comments section who show this dynamic in action.

Anyways, it’s all a sham, of course, and it should be called out when possible. The world is much more complicated and fluid than anyone can fathom. The conspiracy theorists know as much as everyone else, which is nothing. Listening to them has no value.

Again, I am happy the blog has been cleaning house somewhat for the last few days.

MF

#55 Hawk on 11.22.20 at 4:16 pm

To the poster called Lloyd that wrote to Garth:

Dear Lloyd,

In this world, no one agrees with anyone else on everything. Its the way God designed mankind. My father once told me that no two hairs on the hand are exactly the same. No two blood cells are the same. Therefore differences in opinions, between people are an inevitability.

There are only two ways ultimately that a society can deal with these differences i.e. (1) debate and discuss them (2) shut down the voices of those they disagree with.

Well people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and many others to a lesser degree such as MSM nowadays choose to shut down forcibly those they disagree with.

People such as Ron Paul, Trump, (whatever you think of him), Freedom Caucus Senators, the ancient Greeks in Athens, you tubers, alternate media figure heads, etc choose to discuss things. They don’t believe silencing their opponents is the right course of action.

Once a french philosopher who wisely understood the significance of this summarized his position perfectly in the words……….”I may disagree intensely with your opinion, but I’d be willing to defend to death, your right to state it”.

You should think long and hard about which will lead to the kind of society you ultimately want to live in.

(……..and by the way, if you are secure in your own beliefs, and value systems why does what another citizen think about any given issue bother you so much?……) Just curious?

#56 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 4:17 pm

#42 SomeDude

I concur.

The virus has been that great unknown and what to do about it has been a one step back, two steps forward effort Worldwide. The good thing is that many strategies are being used to combat it, Nation by Nation, Region by Region, Community by Community.

Some will and have Failed. Some will and have Succeeded.

In that there is learning. And, there has been.

I worry about this “interim” period until the vaccines arrive since it will take years to inoculate Planet Earth. 3 if you believe the vaccine producers? Or are they posturing to get premiums to produce the COVID-19 vaccines in lieu of their other vaccine products?

But I have trust they will do the right thing for their fellow human beings.

My main worry, besides it mutating which is unlikely according to medical consensus thus far, is that deaths begin to skyrocket and cause societal turmoil. So far humanity lucky when you look at how high new cases are today vs. the 1st Wave yet deaths low by comparison in the 2nd Wave.

One of Garth’s themes tonight and I agree with him (the turmoil part).

But so far, so good. I remain optimistic.

And good your view changes day to day. Means you are a rational thinker open to new ideas.

In that, there is hope for us all.

#57 Hawk on 11.22.20 at 4:24 pm

Sad to see Lloyd advocating additional curtailment of free speech beyond what already exists our society.

All the authoritarians of the world + MSM allies would doubtless be delighted.

On the other hand there was a wise french philosopher who once noted “I may intensely disagree with your opinion, but I’d defend to death, your right to say it”.

Good luck with the kind of country you want Lloyd…………you’ll need it!

#58 Russ on 11.22.20 at 4:25 pm

Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 2:36 pm

I conclude it is the GOOD PEOPLE of Canada that make the difference and not their Gov’s* (the latter the Keystone Cops out for a day in the real World).

*Though some sympathy to Gov Canada trying to herd 14 cats whose strategy of compliance involves emptying the “Company” larder. Trudeau et. al. need to step in and invoke a national strategy for containing S. L. Pathogen until the vaccines arrive.

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Hey Dolce,

You remind me that we need some good Alberta cowboy common sense, not that which is in Ottawa these days.

And for Felix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SmgLtg1Izw

And what’s with all the commentators who say they don’t read the Comments Section but typically post something to that effect and then implore Garth to change it?
Jeez, pick a position and stay with for a bit.

There are some real gems in the comments. One of my favourite is “It looks like we’ve eradicated the flu and old age.” ‘TIC’

I wonder why this kind of info is neglected:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#case-outcome

One could easily suggest it was bad at the beginning of the year and into the the Spring o’ 2020 but ain’t so bad now… just checking the facts, I mean.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#case-outcome

Cheers, R

#59 Thomas on 11.22.20 at 4:28 pm

Garth: we are all in this together

What a big fat lie. Go tell that to a Montreal gym owner that was forced to close his business for months and lost all his retirements savings in the process. How is that a gym more dangerous COVIDwise then flying from TORONTO to HALIFAX for example? People need answers to their questions, if not, of course they imagine a lot of other scenarios when life does not make sense.

#60 Kevin on 11.22.20 at 4:32 pm

I completely agree with Lloyd! This comment section can’t be good for your mental health, Garth. Time to revamp it or nuke it. Stay well and safe.

“I can’t imagine this is not damaging you in some way (I know you’re tough but seriously….). My suggestion would be to take a two week break and/or nuke the comments section for a period of time. I think you should also have a much shorter leash for banning people – no “DELETE”, straight to “BAN”.”

#61 Flop... on 11.22.20 at 4:33 pm

Having trouble deciding who looks better for their age.

Donald Trump 74.5 years.

Goldie Hawn 75 years.

Leave it with me, I’ll figure it out…

M46BC

#62 SWL on 11.22.20 at 4:35 pm

To be fair though western governments over the past 40 years, especially the last 20 have given their populations they govern absolutely zero confidence in trust or ethics. Respect is to be earned, not simply granted and I feel this is the root cause of much of the distrust and divide we see today

My biggest frustration with 2020 is that there is now zero logic in almost anything and it seems as though logic no longer exists. Be it on the side of government, the alt left, or the alt right. I for one am glad that there are people questioning what is simply being fed to us through our state sponsored media

I do have a very big distrust of our current government here in Canada (prove me wrong please), as well as the deep state and dark shadow groups of people who do meet behind closed doors and do plan much or the worlds fate. This is not paranoia or some ‘conspiracy theory’ these meetings actually happen and have been thoroughly documented. This is logic. I think it is wise and healthy to openly discuss these topics, but somehow they seem taboo

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. ~ Carl Sagan

Privatize profits for socialized loses do not sit well with me or most logical people. This is why the real powers that be would rather keep us in a frenzy of fear and confusion while they simply strip us of our remaining rights and freedoms. All the while we collectively as a divide march our way to the technocratic mega corporate controlled state

#63 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 4:38 pm

#58 Kevin

Imagine less.

#64 Pete from St. Cesaire on 11.22.20 at 4:40 pm

I think that the reason for the ‘non-essential goods’ being banned from sale is to hide the fact that many of these goods are simply not available for re-stocking. Most people don’t realize that we are in the midst of a full-blown worldwide economic collapse being papered-over by money printing by the central banks. Many foreigners won’t be accepting our currency anymore, making it difficult to import many things. I know, people will say that China needs access to our markets but in reality they have reached the point where they (and their other trading partners) no longer need North America and the West, especially with our failing currencies.
I expect that much trade with China and other places is only being carried on with by the government coughing-up a surplus premium to the payments made to China by retailers/distributors just to get foreigners to sell to us. It would simply be part of the emergency bailout monies being printed so quickly these days by the hundreds of billions. You won’t hear about this on the news; any such action would be considered a matter of ‘national security’ and therefore subject to a publication ban (what the British call a ‘D’ notice).
Have you noticed that many things that used to come from China are suddenly coming from places like South Africa where their currency is suffering the same collapse as is ours? We can only maintain trade with others who are in the same boat as we are. Those with well-performing economies aren’t accepting our currency as payment.
This gets back to the original point of my comment; those goods deemed non-essential are (for the most part) goods that would not be able to be replenished when the current stock runs out. The government can’t print enough extra currency, or guarantee enough favours, to subsidize every possible item that gets imported, and were the shelves to become bare it would lay out for all to see that our economy is finished. That is an unpleasant truth that the powers-that-be have been trying to hide from us for over 8 months now.

#65 Arthur G on 11.22.20 at 4:47 pm

Garth, like others, I’ve been avoiding the comment section here recently. I’m not a statistician, and I have no real data, but I have a gut feeling, we’re the silent majority.

It’s really sad to see how we’ve all devolved throughout all of this. I’m here to voice support for a more positive view in this comment section, that we will _all_ come out of this better and together.

That way we can all get back to navel gazing about how people will lose/gain money in the sick game of real estate musical chairs we all play :)

#66 zoey on 11.22.20 at 4:49 pm

#37 WTF

100%, Last week I received a realtors pamphlet showing condo’s are holding strong ( ya right ) but now maybe a good time to sell lol. The RE industry in Canada and their agents are just the slimiest. How anyone would use realtor.ca is beyond me they just hide all the real data from you.

#67 DON on 11.22.20 at 4:54 pm

angles.

People are trying to fathom the reasoning behind these decisions. Unfortunately the most rational explanation is that the people in charge of Western countries are fools. They don’t know what they’re doing and they have little real life experience. They have worked their way up the political ladder by being greasy sycophants and opportunists but have never really done much else.

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The cycle of corruption?

Less human nature continously forgets.

On another front the lack of socializing has given me time to do my own projects with no interuptions. The gift of time and a silver lining.

In 1919 there was no internet what did they do…? We have opportunities they could only dream off…but yet they got through their pendemic.

Can you imagine if we went through a big earthquake/storm…we are not prepared on so many fronts.

We need to hunker down and make the best out of an all around nasty situation.

Back to the latest project…

#68 yvr_lurker on 11.22.20 at 4:55 pm

This was really a fantastic Op-Ed today, although more of a comment on society than on anything financial. However, the initial appeal of Trump to many people is because extreme forms of Globalism have lead to many over the past 15 years losing their jobs through off-sourcing, through climate initiatives (coal, mining, etc..), factories closing, trade tactics by China and others in agriculture etc… and this has mostly impacted more rural towns and blue collar workers whose standard of living hit the skids. This is a strong force in society and Gov’t needs to provide some incentives to help retrain many in this sector. Unfortunately many in this group in society saw the false prophet Trump as their saviour.

#69 Pete from St. Cesaire on 11.22.20 at 4:55 pm

SOGGYSHORTS
♦Getting vaccinated might have side effects but ends the pandemic.
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The Flu Shot has been around for 50+ years; the flu is still here. Now of course people will argue that the flu changes strains every year, but who’s to say that ‘they’ won’t tell us the same thing about Covid.

#70 Huh on 11.22.20 at 4:57 pm

Soggy Brain

The choice between those 2 should be pretty obvious.

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Back away from the tablet or keyboard Soggy Brain, please. What is pretty obvious to you couldn’t be farther from obvious for many others. It has been confirmed that sweeping and generalized statements that should “obviously” apply to everyone without exception and without proper and extensive research, makes your brain even soggier, in double blind studies. :p

#71 FriedEggs on 11.22.20 at 5:01 pm

“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new
evidence cannot be accepted.

It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance.

And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief.” -F. Fanon

I believe some of the regulars are going thru this, realities are being smashed. I dont like it either.

God Bless!

#72 SomeDude on 11.22.20 at 5:04 pm

Let’s just remind ourselves.

The most populous country and largest economy (by PPP) in the world is a totalitarian communist one party dictatorship.

They don’t have freedom of speech or freedom of movement. The country’s communication to the outside world is strictly censored and monitored. Most transactions are conducted through digital currency. Everyone is constantly monitored by secret police.
Propaganda is everywhere.

Success in business, academia or really anything else is incumbent upon membership of the party.

They have millions of ethnic minorities interned in reeducation camps.

The deep state enabled this since Nixon. The leaders of Apple, Walmart, Amazon etc. are all quite happy to do business with this country.

The comments section is a mess because the world is a mess. We aren’t in Kansas anymore Toto.

#73 Warren-the-lagging_indicator on 11.22.20 at 5:06 pm

Wow! sure is fun to watch the snakes all expose themselves. It really is 2020.
Biden will likely concede to Trunq in a few weeks before it gets to SCOTUS. There is a reason Kamala Harris has not relinquished her Senate seat yet.

#74 dogwhistle on 11.22.20 at 5:08 pm

#8 Classical Liberal Millennial on 11.22.20 at 1:58 pm
“but forcing people to leave a comment using a Facebook, Google, or some other social account that displays their actual name”

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Won’t work. Very easy to create fake accounts, and judging by the stupidity of the plebs of facebook that use their REAL names to spew Q-anon and similar BS… Won’t make much of a difference I’m afraid.

#75 Wrk.dover on 11.22.20 at 5:08 pm

#16 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 2:18 pm
First, I hope Garth that you and Dorothy are not discriminated against by the locals for your sojourn to Toronto.

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58 cases in Garth’s 100k + pop. zone since day one.

No new cases since early summer. None!

You’d invite him indoors two weeks from now, Italia?

There’s your problem.

#76 Mr Happy on 11.22.20 at 5:12 pm

Garth, it is a lot simpler than you think. Sure, keep blogging, we will continue to come and read. Just turn OFF the comments section for 72 hours. Take a 72 hour break for YOURSELF!! Trust me, everyone will still be here when you get back.

And as to the virus, I have said this since the beginning of the year. The virus will burn itself out (or Vaccinated out) by July/August 2021. Either way, it will be gone.

#77 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 5:13 pm

To the “off with their heads” crowd commenting here (RE: delete them, ban them, NO more Comments, poor defenseless Garth, subterfuge, etc.).

Let me ask you all these 2 simple questions:

1. Have you not seen DELETED or BANNED enough times on the Blog Comment section to appease you?

2. In effect, by making your “off with their heads, no more Comments” recommendations, aren’t you in effect saying Garth is NOT doing a good job at moderating the Comments section?

My answer to Q1 is: I see this often enough and trust that our GreaterFool is no fool at all.

My answer to Q2: Yes, you (RE: [ibid]) are saying he is not doing a good job.

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Further to Q2 isn’t it instead that you have a personal narrative and want to see narratives that disagree with your own terminated, censored?

And those of you rising to the defense of Garth, he needs no advice people – just some encouragement every so often (RE: MSUP). Surely to God you have appreciated there is a greater mind behind the GreaterFool and the latter he is not. So have some faith.

And in fact isn’t your “rising to his defense” with your “off with their heads” admonitions a ruse to get you own way? It his HIS AXE TO GRIND, not yours.

If so, SHAME.

So much for lively discourse and the sharing of ideas – within reason and that reason is courtesy of the GreaterFool himself and NOT yours.

#78 dogwhistle on 11.22.20 at 5:13 pm

#40 American on 11.22.20 at 3:33 pm

Well, Toronto is shutting down again ?

Perhaps Canadian public failure ?

No more smirking I guess

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European media had a field day also.

#79 45north on 11.22.20 at 5:18 pm

“I’ve read your blog daily since it started and have observed the evolution of your frustration with the comments section,” writes Lloyd.

speaking of frustration, I am no longer Secretary on the Community Association. I mean it’s a frustrating job. I don’t have it now and I’m relieved.

you’re frustrated because
– 73 million Americans voted for Donald Trump
– posters believe a global cabal is trying to enslave them
– half the population rebels
– business leaders and politicians cry foul

but we both know there’s been a move away from a common set of values and it’s the media who have led the move. So obviously there’s a clash. Obviously, there’s gona be frustration. A vaccine ain’t gona fix that.

#80 Barb on 11.22.20 at 5:29 pm

Mr. Lamb certainly sounds like some of frequent commenters here.
Glad you’re hitting Delete/Ban button frequently; the results are certainly easier on readers’ nerves.

Hopefully COVID19-sniffer dogs can be rapidly trained and deployed at major airports, helping airlines (and us all) survive.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/finland-deploys-coronavirus-sniffing-dogs-at-main-airport-1.5116610

Let us know how online ordering of groceries works for you and Dorothy. I’ve heard brand/product substitutions are getting hilarious. Probably picked by a 14 year old temp.

#81 SoggyShorts on 11.22.20 at 5:33 pm

#67 Pete from St. Cesaire on 11.22.20 at 4:55 pm
SOGGYSHORTS
♦Getting vaccinated might have side effects but ends the pandemic.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Flu Shot has been around for 50+ years; the flu is still here. Now of course people will argue that the flu changes strains every year, but who’s to say that ‘they’ won’t tell us the same thing about Covid.

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Great example!
So like I said,
2. Waiting too long gives the bug a chance to mutate which could render the vaccines useless.

So yeah, killing covid-19 while the vaccine still works on Strains L,GR, and GH is really important before we end up with 5 or 6 more strains some of which we can’t make a final vaccine for…like the flu.

It’s nice to see another poster coming around to logic.

#82 SoggyShorts on 11.22.20 at 5:35 pm

#68 Huh on 11.22.20 at 4:57 pm

What is pretty obvious to you couldn’t be farther from obvious for many others.

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Exactly! There are too many posters that lack critical thinking skills so I’m trying to help you out.

You’re welcome.

#83 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 5:42 pm

#74 Mr Happy

How did you come up with 72 hours?

I do not believe the additional 48 hrs will make a difference but let me know why you think they will.

Inquiring minds want to know.

In that maybe you can begin to answer for me the no more than 5, 6 or 7 outsider max to one’s home conundrum that I am unable to rationalize other than it must have something to do with differing Nations dining room set or living room sofa and easy chair seating capacity and “more conundrumy yet” is not all homes are the same size volumetrically speaking.

Do tell.

#84 KNOW IT ALL on 11.22.20 at 5:45 pm

DOESN’t MATTER who’s in POWER.

End result will always be the same.

MOTHER Nature makes the final call……. ALWAYS!!

#85 COW Man on 11.22.20 at 5:45 pm

Sir Garth:

From my solitude in small town central Ontario, all that the GTA lock down will do is spread the virus. People from the GTA are going to Paris ON, Orangeville, Owen Sound etc to do what they cannot do in the GTA. A ArBNB waterfront house down the street from us is full every weekend with folks from Brampton. I guess eventually we will be equally exposed to the virus, this way. We cannot close the borders between the GTA and the rest of the Province, like you can in Nova Scotia.

#86 caledondave on 11.22.20 at 5:46 pm

Garth…at first glance this post will seem racist. Please read it all and take a look at the link before you delete it or ban me.

I live in the town of Caledon, just north of the City of Brampton,I think that this virus has an affinity of attacking people with dark skin. Caledon, Brampton and Mississauga are the only cities in Peel Region. Peel Region has a population of 1.5 million. I have been looking at the information shown on the tab entitled social determinants of health of the Region of Peel’s website

https://peelregion.ca/coronavirus/case-status/

This bug has affected 17% of the white population in Peel Region, while 83% of the non-white population in Peel Region have been affected.

People of colour have an natural inability to produce Vitamin D. White People on the other hand produce Vitamin D. I really think that Vitamin D supplements will help people from getting this virus.

I believe Dolce Vita mentioned several months ago that in Italy many of the deaths in his country older residents and these residents probably did not have a chance to go outside into the sunshine. So perhaps there is a co-relation between lack of Vitamin D and catching this Virus?

#87 OK, Doomer? on 11.22.20 at 5:47 pm

Stressed. We’re all stressed. If only there was a clear way out. – GT

There is St. Justin the Wise legalized weed. He was prescient beyond his years. All ye look at his works and tremble.

Imbibe. Tune out. Drop out.

#88 "Nuts!" on 11.22.20 at 5:54 pm

Garth, I’ve read every one of your posts since day one. Most of the times I agree with you, with the very rare exception. I can’t remember agreeing with the content of your post as much as I did today. I try not to let it bring me down, however, the reality of what is quickly becoming part of our culture-this tribalism and binary perspective-is truly frightening. Where once I’d scoff at the mention of civil unrest, I now feel it isn’t beyond the realm of possibility.

#89 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 5:55 pm

#76 dogwhistle

European media had a field day also.

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No they didn’t save Schadenfreude BBC as usual checking up on it former Empire.

Well, at least not this morning in these dailies that I peruse daily for “somewhere in that political spectrum lies the truth”:

https://www.lefigaro.fr/
https://www.leparisien.fr/
https://www.parismatch.com/
https://www.dw.com/en/top-stories/s-9097
https://www.spiegel.de/
https://www.stern.de/
https://www.bild.de/
https://www.welt.de/
https://kurier.at/
https://elpais.com/espana/
https://www.elmundo.es/
https://www.telegraaf.nl/
https://www.aftonbladet.se/senastenytt
https://ilmanifesto.it/
https://www.corriere.it/?refresh_ce-cp
http://www.repubblica.it/
https://www.lastampa.it/
http://www.ilgiornale.it/
https://www.ilfoglio.it/
http://www.rainews.it/

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If so, MY VERY BAD, apologies and you are correct.

Will go check…brb.

#90 Justin on 11.22.20 at 6:04 pm

Daily reader but rarely comment. So many nutters in the comments section. Kudos to you Garth for putting up with it and thank you for the awesome blog!

#91 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 6:10 pm

#76 dogwhistle

European media had a field day also.

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Back.

3 pages of Google Search and all news from N. American MSM save this:

“Covid Canada, Toronto in lockdown per 28 giorni”
Pubblicato il: 21/11/2020 10:09 (CET)

https://www.adnkronos.com/fatti/esteri/2020/11/21/covid-canada-toronto-lockdown-per-giorni_8q4R6jdPDIgLKcFzqdFG5J.html

And no field day. They just repeated what the restrictions will be. Do not subscribe to them, will do now. They were founded by Socialist Pietro Nenni in 1963.

See good things come out of the Comments section. You just have to look for them.

And indeed MY BAD yet no field day.

#92 Konijr on 11.22.20 at 6:12 pm

Thank you Garth, I honestly look forward to reading your blogs!

#93 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 6:15 pm

#88 Justin

“So many nutters in the comments section.”

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Pray tell.

#94 Grateful tarot Card on 11.22.20 at 6:23 pm

First, thank you Garth for this blog
And to the idiot Thomas,
Actually it has been proven no one in Canada has caught the virus from flying, yes many people have got on the plane sick but no one has got COVID from someone on a plane.
Second point gyms are the second most dangerous place to get COVID after restaurants.
Please Read dr tams interviews before you post.

The state of the world is angry? Like why do I need to post a rebuttal to Thomas ?

Why are we acting uncivil to each other?
Here’s a quick example
A women goes into a hardware store, she is asked to were a mask and refuses and the manger shows her the sign no mask no service, she goes into a rage and leaves the store.
The next day she returns to the store with a mask walks up to the manager removes the mask and coughs on them. It’s like WTF.
This is Canada and BC and Salt spring Island,

Gosh were has our dignity gone.? Our Respect for others? No one would ever do that before COVID so why act out now? Well that’s my rant thank you for reading.

we should all post what we are grateful for.

I will start.
I am grateful for my good health, how lucky to be 60 and take no pills.
I am grateful to have a lovely spouse whose a great person.
I am grateful that while people are acting stupid we don’t have riots in the streets or civil unrest.
I am grateful for this blog, most importantly he usually gets it right and I appreciate the financial wisdom of this blog. And thank you thank you for convincing us not to sell in march! Wow!
And he has earned my respect.
Everyone and even the people who are stressed with comments I wish you all a great weekend.

#95 Camille on 11.22.20 at 6:24 pm

2 Cents. It’s the comment section.
It was written today by Anthony Fisher on another matter “Not trying to be pedantic (I swear). Chomsky gets very specific with naming journalists and outlets for what he cites as systemic propaganda”.
Or you can just listen to Hurt sung by Johnny Cash.
Your choice.

#96 Odif on 11.22.20 at 6:26 pm

Garth,

I hope the comment section of this blog does not reflect the real world, otherwise we are indeed doomed. What good is a vaccine if people won’t take it?

I suspect we are in for a lot more pain next year if people keep fighting for their “freedom”, instead of listening to the experts.

#97 Dr.Tom on 11.22.20 at 6:27 pm

I’ve been an on and off reader of your blog from pretty much since the beginning… posted a few times on various subjects … there has definitely been a pronounced shift in tone here and other blogs. .. love or hate USA politics … the catalyst has been the exposure of the MSM…. people are turned off and start to dig for clarity and answers…

#98 Trudi Woods on 11.22.20 at 6:30 pm

at the Erin LCBO last week they were asking for postal codes…not uncommen pre covid times…but what what was uncommon was the guy in front of me defending his postal code as being from Caledon…not Brampton…
This Shitshow of us vs. Them is turning ugly…do what educated well respected professionals tell you to do now
and maybe we won’t have to watch the front line folks like doctors nurses truck drivers grocery store clerks the guy at our favorite and their staff burn out before our collective eyes…and oh yea give to your favourite charity

#99 BZLA on 11.22.20 at 6:31 pm

Not sure where you go to find your sanity, Garth – I come to you!

#100 When Will They Raise Rates? on 11.22.20 at 6:36 pm

While not a red ball capper myself, I do understand the dynamic at play, and it is quite simple… The Dems have shifted far to the left, with the most vocal of the new breed being radical socialists and communists!

It all boils down to the fact that you cannot foist radical left policies on traditional Americans. Canadians, yes. God loving Americans, no. They view it as evil, and they will not allow it.

You get Trump as a result of people like AOC, Bernie Sanders, et al.

#101 Elon Fanboy on 11.22.20 at 6:36 pm

#62 Pete from St. Cesaire…”I think that the reason for the ‘non-essential goods’ being banned from sale is to hide the fact that many of these goods are simply not available for re-stocking.”

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I presume you’re talking about ‘non essential goods’ in grocery stores/Walmart?

They’re being banned from sale to supposedly protect the Mom-Pop stores who sell the same thing but have been forced to close.

In reality all that happens is that consumers go buy the ‘non-essential’ goods on Amazon.

All good are ‘essential’ to those that sell them to put food on the table.

As a side….our Provincial and Federal governments have had 9 months to prepare for a 2nd wave, to allow us to ride it out without crippling closures/lockdowns.

They have completely failed.

#102 Tron Light on 11.22.20 at 6:37 pm

Historically, it has been those on the left that are the most intolerant of other views. And with all this talk of “anti-vaxxers”, QAnon, Trump, the curbing of free speech, the curtail of basic liberties, etc., it continues to be the same this time around.

#103 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 6:38 pm

Remember 2 is the new 1 when stocking your pantry. A 14 day “self isolation” could come at any point. These 28 day lockdowns could be extended to grocery stores (although I don’t see how that would work most people do not have 28 days worth of food in the house. There are some things that have to continue pandemic or no.) Don’t be a jerk and clean the shelves, but if you need 1 bottles of whisky better make it 2.

If you haven’t already done so, take an inventory of your pantry and figure out what items you should add to ensure you can feed your family and your animals for at least 2 weeks if you get the isolation order. Items that have a long shelf life like pasta and canned food are best so if you don’t end up needing it it will sit their for a long time. Bottled water is nice but not esencial as the covid isn’t in the water, the chlorine is. This isn’t a hurricane. Besides you can always boil it and make a nice cup of tea. If you have tea. 2 is the new 1 for that too.

My move-away-tax-avoiding former neighbors finally made it to the Camens and they are in their forced 14 day quarantine. They take it pretty seriously down there; both of them have to wear electronic bracelets. The bracelet hooks to their phone like an iWatch does. If the bracelet gets too far from the phone or the phone leaves the house the police come looking for you. Draconian? Perhaps. Could it happen here? Probably not. But you never know. 2 is the new 1.

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I can kind of understand Brad’s (and others) sense of frustration. This thing is like a giant kick to the nads for the economy. But I don’t know if simply pretending there is no problem is going to do it either.

#104 Gogo on 11.22.20 at 6:39 pm

You don’t need to be a genius to know that if it usually tales four years to test a vaccine and this one took 8 months, manufacturers have no responsibility this is not well tested vaccine. Why people don’t believe government? They receive messages from government like: “have sex with masks to prevent transmission of a virus” We have an utterly clueless finance minister. I can continue for hours.

#105 A J on 11.22.20 at 6:42 pm

Lamb is soulless. Absolute evil. His greed knows no bounds.

#106 Yukon Elvis on 11.22.20 at 6:44 pm

#91 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 6:15 pm
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Twelve posts today. Are u smokin’ crack again ? I guess no limits for u since since u always kiss Garth’s ass.

#107 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 6:51 pm

“#8 Classical Liberal Millennial on 11.22.20 at 1:58 pm
I’ve suggested this a couple times but forcing people to leave a comment using a Facebook, Google, or some other social account that displays their actual name might make a difference with how flippant some of these people are in leaving ridiculous comments. Anonymity makes people braver (and stupider). You should consider it, Garth. No more anonymous made-up names that can be changed on the fly!”

Them sort of people already have a fake Google account. Just check out the comments section there sometime. I thought about making a fake Google account for purposes of commenting but then it dawned on me that my real name is pretty close to being anonymous on Google already.

Stopping trolls is pretty much like UBI or cancelling student loans. If it were as easy as that why didn’t somebody do it already?

So, you either get an unmoderated comments section like at ZeroHedge where there is no point commenting because it is impossible to have a conversation, or a moderated comments section ike this one, or no comments section at all.

#108 conan on 11.22.20 at 6:55 pm

I think your blog is a magnet for these types of comments because you used to be a prominent Conservative politician, and people like Derek Sloan, received a sizable amount of votes for the leadership of that party.

Just a guess , but I think 20 percent of people are attracted to fascism. Another 20 percent of people get sucked in by its propaganda, and another 5 % people will gladly break heads for fascism.

We need to figure out how to defeat this mantra , or it will come back again.

#109 SOMETHINGS UP! on 11.22.20 at 7:00 pm

We social distance, wear masks, sanitize, and isolate for these ANGELS that bare the brunt of humanities ignorance.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-icu-health-workers-covid-19-1.5811808

#110 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 7:09 pm

#38 paul on 11.22.20 at 3:28 pm
#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm
I think Trump will do something to crash markets if he doesn’t get his way. I think he lost fair and square but he’s going scorched earth on the way out.
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Yes he most likely did, But why not do the recounts and look at the Dominion machines and satisfy the naysayers?

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I agree #38 paul. I’ve seen a lot of analysis that would lead one to think something is up with those Dominion machines. States like Texas (and Canada) won’t use them, for fear of being unable to verify whatever it is that they are doing. Whatever else damage the Orange Man Bad does on his way out, you can be sure that this potential backdoor hack will be closed, which will be a good thing for democracy. Not saying the machines will go away, but Dominion won’t be able to hide the code it is using with the word “proprietary” anymore.

Voter roll integrity and ballot custody issues are also likely to be a lot tighter next time. I don’t think either of those issues change the results but there is simply no reason to have people that have been dead for 10 years to be casting ballots from the grave, even if it is only a small number.

I think this election has also proven that voter ID is a very important concept. That alone could have kept the dead people from voting from the grave, as they wouldn’t be able to show up with their photo ID.

How does that saying go? “Trust, but verify.”

#111 Linda on 11.22.20 at 7:10 pm

Frankly I’m surprised that there were crowds at the airport. I would have thought that having to self isolate be a sufficient deterrent to travel, let alone that fact that social distancing isn’t going to be possible in an airplane.

My partner & I were discussing the pandemic situation, where people dying of Covid refuse to believe that is why they are about to die. Thing is, the world hasn’t had a pandemic on this scale since the Spanish Flu & that virus didn’t limit itself to killing off ‘just’ the elderly. There are few if any people still alive who would have any memories of a global event that took place 100+ years ago. Call it the flip side of immunization for common childhood diseases, antibiotics, extended life expectancies etc. People are used to instant health solutions, just take a pill & all is well etc. Hard to accept that might not be the case any longer.

#112 Ryan Flemington on 11.22.20 at 7:14 pm

I’m all for nuking the comments. Maybe polls are a better way to engage with the audience here, but this is a private blog, and I would wager the majority of us come here to gather insights from Garth, and not from the vocal minority of nuts in the comments.

I’ve appreciated the recent polls, and maybe taking the pulse of the readership that way (even with a fillable ‘Other’ section when applicable) would be better. Occasional open comments on specific posts might also help cut down on those who likely come here daily to spout off their inanities.

I’ve often worried about the toll the comments take on Garth, and for all the incredible insight to be gleaned here (seriously, Garth, thank you so much. You have changed my life for the better in ways you will never know), sacrificing the comments section feels like the smallest of prices to pay.

Have at it, I say.

#113 Yuus bin Haad on 11.22.20 at 7:23 pm

I can’t wait to be reset. If it does for me what it does for my iPad, that would be great.

#114 Albertaguy (stuck) in AB on 11.22.20 at 7:23 pm

Why are we locking down? Presumably to save the elderly and most vulnerable.

Only 4M doses (x2) of vaccine are required to avoid further lockdowns for the purpose of saving the elderly and most vulnerable population.

The earliest vacinations should not be given to frontline and emergence workers but instead be given to the 4M most vulnerable (age 70+) that make up the large majority of hospitalizations and icu admissions.

In doing so we immediatley kill the beast (at least as far as hospitalizations and icu admissions).

The next batches then go to the health care and front line and then as needed to the population in general.

We could tame this beast early in 2021.

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics-2020-11-22PM_files/figure-html/unnamed-chunk-20-1.png

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000501

#115 Long-Time Lurker on 11.22.20 at 7:24 pm

#92 NoName on 11.22.20 at 8:59 am
For flop and russ and other vitamins pushers. I recommend ceterumsliver makes you young again.

>Get this. It’s banned now.

Yale epidemiologist says hydroxychloroquine is ‘the key to defeating COVID-19’

‘Tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily’ without the drug, he argues.

By Daniel Payne
Updated: July 25, 2020 – 3:47pm

An Ivy League epidemiology professor is claiming that hydroxychloroquine — the drug that has been at the center of a politicized medical debate for the last several months — is “the key to defeating COVID-19,” and that medical officials should be widely prescribing it to save the lives of thousands of coronavirus patients.

Harvey Risch, a professor of epidemiology at Yale as well as the director of that school’s Molecular Cancer Epidemiology Laboratory, argues in a Newsweek op-ed this week that “the data fully support” the wide use of hydroxychloroquine as an effective treatment of COVID-19.

“When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective,” Risch argues in the column.

Hydroxychloroquine has been the subject of a bitter and protracted political argument for the past several months, after President Trump in mid-March said the drug was showing promising effects in treating COVID-19. Media outlets and commentators shortly thereafter began touting numerous stories of the drug’s alleged fatal dangers as well as its reported ineffectiveness in treating the disease.

Risch, at Newsweek, argues that multiple studies over the past several months have demonstrated that the drug is a safe and efficacious treatment method for COVID-19.

Among the successful treatment experiments, he writes, are “an additional 400 high-risk patients treated by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, with zero deaths; four studies totaling almost 500 high-risk patients treated in nursing homes and clinics across the U.S., with no deaths; a controlled trial of more than 700 high-risk patients in Brazil, with significantly reduced risk of hospitalization and two deaths among 334 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine; and another study of 398 matched patients in France, also with significantly reduced hospitalization risk.”….

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/yale-epidemiologist-says-hydroxychloroquine-key-defeating-covid-19

#116 millmech on 11.22.20 at 7:25 pm

#8
I want to hear dissenting opinions, it is great to debate someone who is passionate about their beliefs and can defend their position well.
To bad free speech is shut down because of people not wanting to hear dissenting opinions, one of Steven Coveys seven habits is to “Seek First to Understand Then to Be Understood”.
I believe people want to be valued and know they matter, to just tell people to shut up and go away because what they believe is different is just wrong. Debate them, use your knowledge of your position to sway the argument, that is way more exciting than just “banning”. I have had many debates with people with polar opposite opinions than mine and actually thought on a lot of their positions that they had valid points that changed my outlook also.
I thought we learned from historic issues and were better than this, this is how I believe a civil society grows and evolves by encouraging debate not stifling it.

#117 Long-Time Lurker on 11.22.20 at 7:26 pm

#92 NoName on 11.22.20 at 8:59 am
For flop and russ and other vitamins pushers. I recommend ceterumsliver makes you young again.

>Here, read this. It’s called science.

OCTOBER 7, 2020

Vitamin D deficiency increased risk of COVID in healthcare workers, new study shows
by University of Birmingham

…Author Professor David Thickett, from the University of Birmingham’s Institute of Inflammation and Aging said: “Our study has shown that there is an increased risk of COVID-19 infection in healthcare workers who are deficient in vitamin D. Our data adds to the emerging evidence from studies in the UK and globally that individuals with severe COVID-19 are more vitamin D deficient than those with mild disease. Finally, our results, combined with existing evidence further demonstrates the potential benefits of vitamin D supplementation in individuals at risk of vitamin D deficiency or who are shown to be deficient as a way to potentially alleviate the impact of COVID-19.”

The full pre-print paper “Vitamin D status and seroconversion for COVID-19 in UK healthcare workers who isolated for COVID-19 like symptoms during the 2020 pandemic” is available on MedRxiv.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-vitamin-d-deficiency-covid-healthcare.html

#118 Flop... on 11.22.20 at 7:27 pm

They say timing is everything.

Check out how lucky these guys were.

I wrote a post yesterday about some of the restaurants closing in my hood and made me reflect how a pre-determined decision saved these guys from a world of hurt.

Dockers Restaurant was the go-to brekkie/ lunch place in my hood and successfully operated on the corner of 45th and Fraser for 15 years.

Last December they decided to pull the pin, family business, maybe so the oldest generation could enjoy their retirement.

Maybe because the landlord tried to jack the rent up because the place next door shuttered roughly at the same time.

It was due to be turned into a Filipino Restaurant, but after they put up the coming soon banner up early this year, the new owners have yet to serve a meal.

Who knows how long a lease they signed…

M46BC

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/dockers-family-restaurant-closing

#119 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 7:28 pm

#74 Mr Happy on 11.22.20 at 5:12 pm
Garth, it is a lot simpler than you think. Sure, keep blogging, we will continue to come and read. Just turn OFF the comments section for 72 hours. Take a 72 hour break for YOURSELF!! Trust me, everyone will still be here when you get back.

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You can shut the comments section off yourself for yourself. Don’t click the link and don’t read it. I for one find it entertaining and am happy to have it as long as Garth remains gracious enough to moderate it.

(PS. I think it serves Garth a purpose as well, helping him keep a finger on the pulse of what is misguiding us steerage passengers on the day so he can correct us tomorrow. For example would Garth have been able to dowse that people were so convinced of a covid conspiracy without help from TurnerNation? I wouldn’t have thought of it. Nope. When I saw the lineups and masks and empty shelves at Costco I thought “this $hit is real”.)

#120 Long-Time Lurker on 11.22.20 at 7:28 pm

I went back to arguing with idiots, temporarily, because I wanted to see if Flop wrote back. Don’t bother writing anything Flop, I won’t see it.

#121 Drinking on 11.22.20 at 7:28 pm

Love your articles and love the comment blog; the only freedom we have left whether one agree’s to it or not.

Thanks! :)

Stay safe everyone!!

#122 Two-thirds on 11.22.20 at 7:28 pm

The truly lamentable thing is that centrists no longer have a place in society, or this blog, judging by the tone of this week’s discussions.

You are either right or left, all-in on vaccines and masks, or anti-vax, eat-the-rich or 1 percenter, boomer or millennial, F150 or EV, etc.

Tolerance, middle ground is gone.

Each side automatically discounts and “cancels” the other, if the slightest hint of an idea that does not fit their own model is profered.

I personally found Garth’s comment this week calling some people immoral and selfish too extreme when the person in question did not express a position but was questioning something.

There are a lot of us in the middle, who are not deplorables or anti-vax, or socialists, etc., but are no longer accepted by either side. Perhaps it is time to say goodbye to this blog, which was a daily source of financial wisdom, once upon a time. Now it is a source of angst, cancel-culture, and us-vs-them-isms, non-stop.

Maybe I will quarantine from the blog, possibly permanently. As a centrist, I no longer feel like I belong here.

#123 paracho on 11.22.20 at 7:33 pm

I have not read the comments section in a while . Even today ; I went straight to comment .
I have contributed in the past . I always tried to be rational , kind and add statistics to my comment . Something to justify my point of view .
I have resonated with the reasonings of Lloyd for a long time now .
Please try tone civil , reasonable and kind when posting .

#124 KAC on 11.22.20 at 7:45 pm

I enjoy reading this blog on a daily basis, often agreeing and just as often disagreeing with both our host and many comments. Unlike some commentators, I see value in reading opposing views which occasionally make me rethink my own positions.

Please keep censorship to a minimum. Hate speech and potentially dangerous misinformation is fair game but opposing views can have value, even when they are political. An “up vote” and “down vote” feature could be an interesting and useful addition but, given the number of vengeful and irrational people on both ends of the political spectrum, demanding identification from commenters is a terrible idea.

The most chilling comment I read on today’s comments was “ anonymous posting leaves no consequences”. We already have some of the more extreme Democrat Congress members calling for archives and lists of Trump supporters so they can be denied any employment in government jobs. That is a very slippery slope with echoes of the very worst totalitarian states.

#125 Dogman01 on 11.22.20 at 7:46 pm

#13 NSNG on 11.22.20 at 2:14 pm

“When it becomes serious, you have to lie,”- Jean-Claude Juncker

Ever since the First Gulf War and the Weapons of Mass Destruction, I have questioned our establishment.
I agree something seems fishy here.

“It is a club and you’re not in it”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyvxt1svxso

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Netflicks Documentary : Hitler – A Career , is interesting, as a World War II buff the Germany in 1920-30’s is the main focus of this and it is interesting regarding the shifting alliances and politicking. (as well as the utter moral weakness and failure of the world’s democracies)

#126 Flop... on 11.22.20 at 7:54 pm

#117 Long-Time Lurker on 11.22.20 at 7:28 pm
I went back to arguing with idiots, temporarily, because I wanted to see if Flop wrote back. Don’t bother writing anything Flop, I won’t see it.

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Hey Lurker, I’m really bad at following basic orders, so of course I’m gonna write back.

Don’t get wound up my friend, my Croatian buddy NoName was only joking with his post with a funny commercial as proof.

I, as well, was only joking when I asked if vitamin c and d would keep me safe from Real Estate Pumpers.

Russco was good enough to write back with what vitamin amounts he was taking, so I played along and mentioned the vitamin infused teas to try and salvage some good out of all.

Forgot to mention I am currently buying Australian Oranges too because they are high in both vitamin c and d.

That’s what happens when you lace your Orange trees with Vegemite…

M46BC

#127 Gulf Breeze on 11.22.20 at 7:57 pm

Ban away, Garth. It can’t happen soon enough for me. I’m a bit of a conspiracy theorist myself but that is a long shot from being a conspiracy ‘certaintist’

People who just recently got the memo that MSM is biased and influened by letter agencies figure that social media, somehow, is not.

I suggest they do some reading on Cambridge Analytica ties to Steve Bannon and Michael Flynn and Qanon.

Bannon is a hard right militarist and Flynn is a fascist and they are both up to their ears in disseminating all the atrocity propaganda on social media. There was also, I figure, a plan to take out Iran, in Trump’s second term. That was in the works from the start.

The U.S dodged a bullet when Biden was elected, but it ain’t over yet and God knows what he and his lovely crew will try to pull before they are dragged out of the white house.

This is dangerous, dangerous stuff, very much like pre war Germany. I would not blame anyone in a position of authority who is at all sane and reasonable to cut unfounded rumors and suspicion off at the knees. It’s not ‘free speech.’ The false rumors are calls to violence.

#128 Steven Rowlandson on 11.22.20 at 7:58 pm

Tribalism and nationalism are natural and their opposites are not. Like empires leftist ideologies have to be imposed and defended by force and when that cannot be done for what ever reason people and groups seek to pursue their interests on their own terms which often involves the downsizing of sovereignty and the restoration of ethnocentric polities which are stable and everyone recognizes each other as being members of the tribe, clan or nation and everyone sees the leadership as being their leaders. One people, one nation and one leader. It is natural….

#129 Theyounggreek on 11.22.20 at 7:59 pm

Can someone explain to me what they mean when they say the vaccine is 95% effective? I assumed it meant that if you vaccinated 100 people and exposed them to the virus, 95 of them would not get the virus. After reading this article from the national post, I’m not so sure.

https://nationalpost.com/health/not-going-to-end-the-pandemic-why-those-hopeful-vaccine-trial-results-are-not-all-that-they-seem

Correct me if I’m wrong but this article states that they weren’t testing for wether people got the virus but for wether they had serious symptoms/required hospitalization. The difference is huge because if the vaccine doesn’t stop people from getting the virus, just stops them from getting really sick then you’d really only need to vaccinate the old and vulnerable. There’s really no need to vaccinate those in their 20s, 30s, and 40s. Am I missing something here?

#130 Looking up on 11.22.20 at 8:07 pm

#103 Yukon Elvis on 11.22.20 at 6:44 pm
#91 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 6:15 pm
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Twelve posts today. Are u smokin’ crack again ? I guess no limits for u since since u always kiss Garth’s ass.

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I thought it was just me that noticed that about Dolce Vita lol! Pray tell…

#131 Doug t on 11.22.20 at 8:11 pm

#125 Steven rowlandson

BINGO – it is true, not PC now a days but still true –

#132 Lawyer-Elite Task Farce on 11.22.20 at 8:15 pm

Everything is extremes. Those people who don’t subscribe to everything I do obviously have something wrong with them. It’s not just good it’s great, not just bad but so awful there is never going to be any chance of recovery. Just a lie by politicians, not enough anymore it must be expanded to a completely outrageous story that no one could believe. Therefore it must be true according to a large segment of the population. Maybe the whole world has become bi-polar.

You mentioned Hitler and there are so many other examples, currently some situations are not so different. I can’t understand how people are so willing to believe ever more nonsensical things but they do.

Stop, take a breath, quit inhaling the fertilizer you are being fed people and think for a minute or day, a week but surely with a pause people could realize they are being used by those in power who couldn’t give a damn about them.

I not not sure humans ever learn much of anything important, never again but it continues different place different people but it continues. We keep being conned by people that many times aren’t even that smart but recognized a fear and seized on it, or created it promising a solution that only they have.

Imagine what some actually smart people who have been watching the last number of years and seeing what they can get away with might do. Frightening and I bet it will happen maybe not in my lifetime but it will.

At least you got out of the 41sicks at the right time.

#133 SimplyPut7 on 11.22.20 at 8:16 pm

I’m not an anti-masker or anti-lockdowns, I am just tired of the government (at all levels) picking on the people they think will hurt them the least when they are up for re-election.

It’s time for GPS tracking to be added to the covid app, there’s no reason all fitness centres need to be shut down if only one spinning class in Hamilton caused a massive outbreak.

All malls and restaurants don’t need to be closed if only a couple of banquet halls were responsible for outbreaks in their region.

Why is it okay for schools to have outbreaks without contract tracing that finds all people who could have been exposed in the area, but small businesses have with no outbreaks have to wonder if their business will be operating in 2021?

The favouritism needs to stop or the post-covid recovery will take longer than expected once vaccines people trust start to become wildly available.

#134 NoName on 11.22.20 at 8:16 pm

#114 Long-Time Lurker on 11.22.20 at 7:26 pm

I gues you didnt watch a video and you dont have any humor left in you…

But luckily for you i can help you with that. Here is something funny for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj5vZ7k5hZo

#135 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 8:19 pm

#116 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 7:28 pm

(So responding to myself with a PS.)

“When I saw the lineups and masks and empty shelves at Costco I thought “this $hit is real”.

So some people might argue that the lineups, masks, and empty shelves were a mass hysteria. Could be, I can’t see viruses and don’t know what one would look like if I could. But I can see empty shelves. The best defense is to be prepared for however your fellow humans might react to whatever it is. The best time to buy a generator is when there is no hurricane. They won’t be in stock when the wind starts to blow. 2 is the new 1.

#136 Pete from St. Cesaire on 11.22.20 at 8:27 pm

Garth, I find it ironic that you are comparing today’s societal strife with 1930’s Germany and at the same time opposing those of us who are basically warning people that the 4th Reich is well under way to becoming a reality here in the Western World.
Like you said earlier “people believe what they’re told”.
That was how Nazi Germany was built using falsehoods concerning certain groups and that is how the 4th Reich is now being built using the falsehood of everyone being a disease and half the population being domestic terrorists.

#137 JIDF Task Force on 11.22.20 at 8:51 pm

So we get a lecture about Hitler, the rising tide of nationalism, and a hint that Americans, despite lacking any compelling, public or national security reasons, should not question the illegal deployment of US troops to Syria, a country where no war has been declared and which poses no risk to the US?

What exactly are you saying here Garth? Why don’t you be honest?

Is there a specific reason you are interested in using US forces as a tool to secure Israeli regional interests?

You do understand that Israel has the largest and most capable air force in the entire middle east, a formidable army and an undeclared arsenal of nuclear weapons, yes?

#138 Stan Brooks on 11.22.20 at 8:56 pm

The increasing number of controversial, deviating from the generally accepted and expected political correctness and sometimes outright idiotic posts is directly corelated to the idiotic policies promoted by our elites – both monetary and social.

Watched the ‘money for nothing’ movie/btw from 2012/ about the great financial crisis and the reasons for it – the easy money policies.

We have learned nothing in all these years and kept digging the debt hole deeper and deeper.

People who claim that ‘inflation’/aka the CPI is sub 2 % while excluding food and housing from it and so justify zero rates policies while claiming economic boom due to artificially inflated GDP numbers that discount real inflation and cost of living, and asset inflation claimed as growth’ are far more dangerous than some conspiracy theorists with lunatic ideas whom nobody takes seriously.

Cheers,

#139 Dr V on 11.22.20 at 8:58 pm

122 Dogman01 and anybody who is interested – I found this documentary of Alabama Governor George Wallace fascinating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLkCY0f73iE&ab_channel=GovWallace

The story of a man who sold his soul in order to gain political power.

So many parallels to today.

I’ve avoided commenting for a few days. Too much trump, too much COVID.

#140 Faron on 11.22.20 at 8:58 pm

Hawk:

(……..and by the way, if you are secure in your own beliefs, and value systems why does what another citizen think about any given issue bother you so much?……)

Because anti-mask, anti-vax beliefs (much like the support of assault weapons in the US) are followed by actions that then endanger others and many have a weak grasp on that linkage. Everyone damn well has a right to fight against that. True libertarianism recognizes everyone’s right to live how they choose and that includes recognizing that how I act has a direct effect on your livelihood. I do not have the right to endanger you even if I otherwise would have the right to choose what I do and don’t wear. The common good and selflessness seems lost on a significant portion of your self-proclaimed freedom fighters. You don’t exist in a vacuum no matter how far back in the sticks you live and what shade of tactical pink your quad is. We, as a society, have a duty to care for eachother and sometimes that comes through the making of small sacrifices. In the end, we are all much better off.

#141 OK, Doomer on 11.22.20 at 9:03 pm

I’m OK with Tribalism. My tribe accepts everyone. Who won’t you let into your tribe?

#142 Bonobo on 11.22.20 at 9:04 pm

Russia, Russia, Russia.
Russian tampering.
Trump’s an illegitimate president.
Trump is a Russian Agent.
Impeachment based on fake dossier.
I could go on.

Fair is fair. The left came up with an abundance of conspiracy theories to try and remove a duly elected POTUS in 2016. They NEVER accepted him as POTUS.

Why on God’s green earth should Republicans accept Biden in 2020?!? There are hundreds of affidavits signed under penalty of perjury listing illegal actions taken during vote counting.

Conspiracy’s come from all sides Garth…

When Trump won (with fewer votes than Biden just got) Obama handed over the reins and assisted in the transition. It’s what presidential, principled patriots do. – Garth

#143 Belly R. Ubs, esq on 11.22.20 at 9:07 pm

#8 Classical Liberal Millennial on 11.22.20 at 1:58 pm
Anonymity makes people braver (and stupider).
….

Classic.

Aside, on basic How-to sites the tone is pleasant and helpful. On political opinion sites the conversation is venomous and agitated. Content, content, content. I have a blog page. It discusses wood finishing techniques… yawn, unless you’re into that sort of thing.

#144 Faron on 11.22.20 at 9:10 pm

#38 paul on 11.22.20 at 3:28 pm

#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm

But why not do the recounts and look at the Dominion machines and satisfy the naysayers?

Because you don’t negotiate with terrorists.

#145 Regjeg on 11.22.20 at 9:11 pm

#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm
I think Trump will do something to crash markets if he doesn’t get his way. I think he lost fair and square but he’s going scorched earth on the way out.
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What could Trump do to crash markets at this point? He’s going, going, gone on the way to being completely irrelevant on the world stage.

#146 Owl Eyes on 11.22.20 at 9:11 pm

Honestly Garth the comments section is not necessary. Just disable it. I don’t come here for the comments, I come for your (and your guest bloggers’) stuff.

#147 Faron on 11.22.20 at 9:16 pm

#107 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 7:09 pm

#38 paul on 11.22.20 at 3:28 pm
#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm

I agree #38 paul. I’ve seen a lot of analysis…

BS. Show us this “analysis” Nonplused. Your posts are speculative garbage until you can show there there are any facts behind them. Your posts containing this tripe should be flagged or banned because the baseless line of questioning the legitimacy of the US election is actually causing extensive damage. Every time I try to follow one of these right wing explainers it always ends in either a myth or a payoff or a shill with nothing to lose. Prove me wrong of go back to putting up the christmas lights and leave the lies off of here.

#148 SoggyShorts on 11.22.20 at 9:18 pm

#111 Albertaguy (stuck) in AB on 11.22.20 at 7:23 pm
Why are we locking down? Presumably to save the elderly and most vulnerable.

Only 4M doses (x2) of vaccine are required to avoid further lockdowns for the purpose of saving the elderly and most vulnerable population.
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Generally speaking the most vulnerable do not respond to vaccines very well, if they can take them at all.

The whole reason why you get as many people as possible vaccinated is so that those with compromised immune systems, cancer, or other illnesses can be protected even if they can’t get the shot themselves.
Those are the vulnerable you mentioned.

#149 fishman on 11.22.20 at 9:21 pm

Tribalism: We live in such a fertile country for its growth. As William F. Buckley said, multiculturalism is just a training school for tribalism. We’re at the primary grade for indoctrination in relative morality & victim status. Graduating into critical thought, intersectionality & suchlike Maoist gobbledygook. Brexit,Wexit, nationalism, populism, bring it on. And another leader who operates only on a feral intelligence level to replace the one we’re about to lose. I’ll take my chances with my gun,gold,God,garden, girl & new GMC 4×4. See! I can compromise my fellow bloggies & not buy or drive an F150.

#150 Jay on 11.22.20 at 9:26 pm

Trudeau says reduce your social circle. Okay I’ll cancel the kids soccer games. Sorry no refunds. I should probably cancel my other kids dance class then. Sorry no refunds. Nevermind were committed to both I guess. I’m not walking away from thousands.

Maybe I’ll cancel that ski trip then, the one that forced us to pre-purchase the lift tickets, but not so smart now that cases are rising. Sorry no refunds.

Meanwhile these same establishments run ads telling us to do the right thing to limit the spread. Maybe offer a damn refund then!

Airlines only gave a refund on unused tickets after government made it a condition of bailout money. How are we supposed to do the right thing when corporations won’t and just offer lip service and pat themselves on the back for not allowing handicapped people in their stores because they legitimately can’t wear a mask.

#151 Doug t on 11.22.20 at 9:43 pm

#138 ok doomer

Um that’s not tribalism – that’s your little friendship circle that does coffee after yoga to chat about your chakras

#152 Ponzius Pilatus on 11.22.20 at 9:53 pm

#147 Jay on 11.22.20 at 9:26 pm
Trudeau says reduce your social circle. Okay I’ll cancel the kids soccer games. Sorry no refunds. I should probably cancel my other kids dance class then. Sorry no refunds. Nevermind were committed to both I guess. I’m not walking away from thousands.

Maybe I’ll cancel that ski trip then, the one that forced us to pre-purchase the lift tickets, but not so smart now that cases are rising. Sorry no refunds.

Meanwhile these same establishments run ads telling us to do the right thing to limit the spread. Maybe offer a damn refund then!

Airlines only gave a refund on unused tickets after government made it a condition of bailout money. How are we supposed to do the right thing when corporations won’t and just offer lip service and pat themselves on the back for not allowing handicapped people in their stores because they legitimately can’t wear a mask.
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Sorry to here of your misfortunes.
But, at least you you can afford all these non essential activities.
Our family decided early in the pandemic to forgo our usual activities and vacations and stand down.
We just thought it was the prudent thing to do.
We understand, there’s people still booking cruises.
Anyway, were saving a lot of money and hassles.
And BTW, my son is playing in his last year of Major Junior hockey, and he has not seen any ice for 4 weeks.
So, everyone is sacrificing.

#153 Doug t on 11.22.20 at 9:54 pm

#146 fish man

Um what ???????

#154 Drinking on 11.22.20 at 9:59 pm

#140 Belly R. Ubs, esq

Absolutely interested; please post your link to your website. I am sure that Garth would be interested since he enjoys working with his hands and brain,with all the his/hers projects of past endeavors that they partook in, it would be a great education for all of us interested.

I beleive he mentioned that he owns a tug boat now, all the finishing touches to the one’s who loves the art would be greatly appreciate by your insight/s; did I mention that I greatly enjoy working with wood, very therapeutic, thanks..

#155 AGuyInVancouver on 11.22.20 at 10:04 pm

#42 SomeDude on 11.22.20 at 3:39 pm
This whole situation has been fumbled from the start.

In a few years we will look back in wonder at people being locked in their homes, harassed in the street by the police, forced to wear masks (that don’t even work) etc.

The Hong Kong virus of the late 60s killed more people than COVID and didn’t require the totalitarian response we have witnessed….
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BS alert. Covid has passed the one million deaths of the Hong Kong flu .

And I see TurnerNation still spewing his daily quota of garbage. What was that about bannings?

#156 WiseGuy on 11.22.20 at 10:14 pm

I understand that the virus is stressful to many people, but here are my thoughts.
First of all, it comes down to education. I find that non University educated people are more than likely the same anti-mask, ‘plandemic’ believers.
The pandemic has affected the service industry and people with the lowest incomes the most. My friend that works for the TTC says that at least 3-4 people a day are jumping on the tracks a day, but nobody ever hears about that.
The other cohort of people that I feel are the ones that have been affected by the virus and the ones complaining the most seem to be the well to do established ones that are quite comfortable in their living situation.
What I mean by complaining, they are complaining, because they are missing their vacations, travels, restaurant dining, Raptors and Leaf games and general entertainment.
Then there is someone like me. I’ve been fortunate to keep my job, work from home and raise my kids. However, not much has changed for me and my lifestyle. Pre-pandemic, we didn’t go on vacations, have fine dining, buy Leaf or Raptors tickets and the main reason is, because we couldn’t afford to. Our lives really haven’t changed that much. Pre-pandemic, we rarely went out, much the same as what we are doing now.
It sounds boring, but it’s reality.
We pay our bills and live a very modest lifestyle.

#157 Bertrand Rousell on 11.22.20 at 10:17 pm

To deny that “the stress” you vilify comes from the extreme left is naive.

https://financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-the-great-reset-and-the-covid-pandemic

There is streets because the left has been hurrying their push to ram their nonsense down our throats in the exact same list as you included above. Maybe the solution to the stress is to remove it? The majority of western citizens don’t want globalism, mass immigration, angry religions, socialist garbage rip off taxation for multilateralist boondoggles. A majority of Canadians despise Trudeau and everything he stands for but are frustrated that he can openly manipulate seats by packing them with dependent bodies so that votes in the rest of the country don’t get counted.

The attachment is an article in the TO Sun strips the left bare on this denial of a collusion to Reset . Now the left is denying they ever said it as they face roaring criticism from us that Covid is not an opportunity for the extremists and the paid theatrical minions that dance and burn for the paid media ghouls.

The idea that these leftist a-holes want to deny us our freedom, our history and our hard fought way of life to be replaced by others is not going to fly and the stress as you call it is really more a growing anger. The vast majority will not be cowed by a few pathetic losers. We watch as a few dress up goons play act as BLM, antifa or whatever but we know it’s all fake theater to push an agenda. You think we’re weak and complacent. You think that when we catch you red handed you can deny it ever happened and we’ll forget?

#158 Old Ron on 11.22.20 at 10:23 pm

Solid article Garth, thanks.

#159 Felix on 11.22.20 at 10:24 pm

7 dogawful germ-laden mutts crammed into a compact SUV?

Sounds like a really good trip plan.

If you’re Thelma and Louise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dUYR2apxdA

…or even better…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkFhcP6_tnQ

#160 Bobby on 11.22.20 at 10:29 pm

As of 10:47 AM (Nov 22) 147 people are in ICU, 89 on ventilators. That’s not exactly a crisis level. I am not going to talk conspiracy.. I’d rather mention real-world examples and the reality in which we find ourselves. I really don’t think you’re that directly affected by this economically. Nor am quite frankly. But I know a number of people that are. Many small businesses are suffering. Many have gone broke or will by the end of the winter. I also no a number of people who are acting as irrationally as the conspiracy theorists. Folks who are wearing masks while they jog, or who’ve completely lost their scruples and are so bloody paranoid that they think the virus is going to creep into their beds in the middle of the night and devour them. I prefer the Swedish model. And why can’t we simply put our efforts into isolating the elderly? Most of Europe is in its 2nd lockdown and we are talking serious lockdowns not the tepid one we’ve experienced. Are they working? I doubt it. All the big players (except for Germany) in Europe are recording 800 deaths/million. Much higher than Canada and rivalling the US. Belgium is actually closer to 1400 deaths/mill.

Let’s be rational. There’s no point in shutting down barber shops while Dollarama is open and allowing 30 people or more to pack their small retail spaces.

#161 Grateful Living on 11.22.20 at 10:32 pm

Thanks for the blog, Garth. I think it would benefit everyone if you got rid of the comments. There is too much trash to sort through and the result is too many blogs wasted talking about the comment section. Your call, either way I will keep coming back for the blog! That is again, happy quarantining!

#162 TurnerNation on 11.22.20 at 10:37 pm

Each week I talk with 15-20 people, part of my several networks each with their 10-50 people. Add to this family and work networks.
Does anyone know anyone actually sick at this point, enough to justify use of the “P” word? Seriously.

A great afternoon spent at the Toronto Christmas market. Normal as usual. What is going on.


#31 Dmitry on 11.22.20 at 3:12 pm
5G likely red herring. More to the point is the screen time. HULU TV service named after this guy apparently.
Now you know why they want us to #stayhome.
This WW3 is for our minds alright:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6506148B2/en?assignee=Hendricus+G.+Loos
2001-06-01
Application filed by Hendricus G. Loos

Nervous system manipulation by electromagnetic fields from monitors
Abstract
Physiological effects have been observed in a human subject in response to stimulation of the skin with weak electromagnetic fields that are pulsed with certain frequencies near ½ Hz or 2.4 Hz, such as to excite a sensory resonance. Many computer monitors and TV tubes, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or TV set. For the latter, the image pulsing may be imbedded in the program material, or it may be overlaid by modulating a video stream, either as an RF signal or as a video signal. The image displayed on a computer monitor may be pulsed effectively by a simple computer program. For certain monitors, pulsed electromagnetic fields capable of exciting sensory resonances in nearby subjects may be generated even as the displayed images are pulsed with subliminal intensity.

#163 Pete from St. Cesaire on 11.22.20 at 10:45 pm

FARON – You don’t exist in a vacuum no matter how far back in the sticks you live and what shade of tactical pink your quad is. We, as a society, have a duty to care for eachother and sometimes that comes through the making of small sacrifices.
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The trouble with your logic here is 2-fold. Firstly: This argument can be used to stop people from doing anything ever again; want to go for a casual drive? No can do. You might get in an accident and hurt someone who legitimately needed to be out grocery shopping. Secondly: The pandemic is a fraud, so to believe unquestioningly that everyone poses a danger is tantamount to believing other falsehoods such as the danger posed by witches or by people of a certain religion.

#164 Russ on 11.22.20 at 11:07 pm

Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 2:36 pm

I conclude it is the GOOD PEOPLE of Canada that make the difference and not their Gov’s* (the latter the Keystone Cops out for a day in the real World).

*Though some sympathy to Gov Canada trying to herd 14 cats whose strategy of compliance involves emptying the “Company” larder. Trudeau et. al. need to step in and invoke a national strategy for containing S. L. Pathogen until the vaccines arrive.

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Hey Dolce

I think we agree. Canada needs some good ol’ Alberta cowboy sensibility in Ottawa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryMgZ0pyGS4

Cheers, Russco

#165 Dogman01 on 11.22.20 at 11:14 pm

#136 Dr V on 11.22.20 at 8:58 pm

Odd coincidence.

Yesterday I was listening to music from my highschool days, I came across this (disturbing) song, I was curious and looked into it and presto it was regarding an attempt on killing George Wallace.

Peter Gabriel – Family Snapshot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHviPKJDEs4

I know nothing about George Wallace but will watch you link, my curiosity is peaked. – Thanks
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Alabama Governor George Wallace fascinating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLkCY0f73iE&ab_channel=GovWallace
The story of a man who sold his soul in order to gain political power.
So many parallels to today.

#166 Paul on 11.22.20 at 11:19 pm

#144 Faron on 11.22.20 at 9:16 pm
#107 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 7:09 pm

#38 paul on 11.22.20 at 3:28 pm
#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm

I agree #38 paul. I’ve seen a lot of analysis…

BS. Show us this “analysis” Nonplused. Your posts are speculative garbage until you can show there there are any facts behind them. Your posts containing this tripe should be flagged or banned because the baseless line of questioning the legitimacy of the US election is actually causing extensive damage. Every time I try to follow one of these right wing explainers it always ends in either a myth or a payoff or a shill with nothing to lose. Prove me wrong of go back to putting up the christmas lights and leave the lies off of here.
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What I’m saying is, if the vote was so straight and decisive check the machines, the mail in ballets and settle it. One recount done all ready cost Three million dollars paid by the Republicans. I think you have a poor
definition of terrorist it was the Democrats that allowed the burning and intimidation all through the summer.

#167 DownToFinance on 11.23.20 at 12:04 am

Don’t know how you do it Garth but thanks for all you do. I wish you peace during this turbulent time.

#168 Frederick Markle on 11.23.20 at 12:24 am

What does the rest of the world think of Trudeaus Covid Response?

Canada Banned:

https://www.traveloffpath.com/list-of-eu-countries-that-have-now-banned-canada-for-entry/

Open airports without health checks and voluntary self monitoring have created a Red Zone of all Canada. Who are Canada’s worst affected communities?

Why did Trudeau fight against protecting the most vulnerable spreading Corona throughout our visible minority communities?

Why have health authorities cancelled health services by claiming hospitals are “overwhelmed” when evidence proves hospitals are empty?

What’s really going on?

#169 Damifino on 11.23.20 at 12:30 am

#143 Owl Eyes

Honestly Garth the comments section is not necessary.
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Then why do you click on them?

#170 NSNG on 11.23.20 at 12:35 am

If you need to resort to force to remove debate and dissenters to protect your opinions and policies, you have already failed to convince yourself of your position.

#171 Nonplused on 11.23.20 at 1:04 am

#144 Faron on 11.22.20 at 9:16 pm
#107 Nonplused on 11.22.20 at 7:09 pm

#38 paul on 11.22.20 at 3:28 pm
#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm

I agree #38 paul. I’ve seen a lot of analysis…

BS. Show us this “analysis” Nonplused. Your posts are speculative garbage until you can show there there are any facts behind them. Your posts containing this tripe should be flagged or banned because the baseless line of questioning the legitimacy of the US election is actually causing extensive damage. Every time I try to follow one of these right wing explainers it always ends in either a myth or a payoff or a shill with nothing to lose. Prove me wrong of go back to putting up the christmas lights and leave the lies off of here.

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I’ve already posted links to a few graphs, but I suppose that was some time ago. Anyway Sidney Powell will either come up with a case or she won’t. We’ll see in the next week or so.

As I peruse tomorrow I shall collect links for you but I was trying to keep stuff down as I suspect this isn’t a topic Garth wants us going on about any more so than vaccines. The cards will fall where they may.

And I take exception to you calling me a liar simply because I saw something you didn’t. I will admit it is not possible that just because some guy who knows how to work a data base has scraped the data and run some analysis means we have proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But people who react as strongly as you did usually have something to hide.

If there is no fire behind the smoke what is the harm in letting the fire department check things out?

#172 Nonplused on 11.23.20 at 1:19 am

“When Trump won (with fewer votes than Biden just got) Obama handed over the reins and assisted in the transition. It’s what presidential, principled patriots do. – Garth”

Obama appeared to be fairly graceful about the whole thing, but I wouldn’t say that was true of Hillary, Pelosi, or Nadler. Have we forgotten the Steele dossier already?

Anyway there will be a smooth transition of power. The US constitution is well set up to handle these sorts of crises, more so than perhaps any other nation. But it takes time. The founders knew fraud was possible and that where fraud was possible people would commit fraud. All they are doing now is making sure that there was none such fraud in amounts that could have affected the results. There was some, we know that for sure, so a few people are likely going to jail. A good reminder that you don’t do that.

#173 Sara on 11.23.20 at 1:29 am

From an unknown source.

Media: No evidence of fraud.
Politicians: No evidence of fraud.
Legal experts: No evidence of fraud.
Election officials: No evidence of fraud.
Cybersecurity officials: No evidence of fraud.
Dept of Homeland Security: No evidence of fraud.
Random person on twitter : The truth will come out

#174 Ron on 11.23.20 at 1:29 am

I like the blog, and have been reading for a few years now. The pandemic has definitely changed the tone of things. I feel like it’s gone from a calm “ things will pass” to a more strained “things better pass soon!” I liked reading articles here mainly due to how calm and even handed you normally are, even during most of this pandemic, and what one would expect from someone handling other people’s money. Seeing you engage with the more fringe elements in the comments section, doesn’t give me a good feeling. I was a little relieved to see a guest blogger the other day, because I knew it wouldn’t be at war with the comments section.

Sure you’ve been doing this since 2008, but the last 4 years so much polarization has occurred in many online communities. If you engage with some of these people you are going to attract more of them. They crave your attention. I see a worrying couple of commenters names who if you’re more familiar with certain communities you’d know they were here for only one thing, to disrupt and derail the comments. If you starve them for attention they’ll get bored. Stay above the noise, if you nuke your comments section altogether they win, but taking a break is a good thing. Burnout is a thing, nobody is immune.

#175 Jane24 on 11.23.20 at 1:48 am

At 66 and 70 my husband and I have been told by the British govt that we can expect our double Covid 19 shots in mid-January. We are after the NHS and other health care workers but that is fine by us as we don’t want to be first in the queue. The govt is also quoted as saying yesterday that life will be close to normal by Easter. I think this is about right. So only 4 more months of this madness to go here. I fear it may be longer for my large family in Canada as you cannot open up until the dysfunctional USA has sorted themselves out and there is no sign of that as yet.

The key for all of us will be what positives we take out of this to reflect on and use to improve our future lives. We may all appreciate actually being alive and and be more able to separate needs from wants in our lives. Someone posted on the internet that ‘This is not the time to think of what you want from life but to appreciate all that you have.’ So true.

As some of you know we are looking for a farmhouse(second home) in Brittany or Normandy. The prices are shooting up there too as the WFH crowd gets out of Paris. It is not just a Canadian thing.

#176 kommykim on 11.23.20 at 1:49 am

I find it funny that people don’t realize that the German people had shortwave and LW radios and the allies transmitted programs in German. They were not 100% in the dark, information wise.

#177 Garth's Son Drake on 11.23.20 at 2:21 am

I thought HBC was bluffing, now their stores are closing. Lawsuits are flying for unpaid rent and they are actually closing doors – Coquitlam – Penticton in the air.

Air Canada gets a bailout. No worries there.

Dominion voting systems from good ol’ Canada call into question very election they have been apart of, including Canada. They need to be eliminated.

This pay to play garbage is destroying democracy.

#178 Faron on 11.23.20 at 2:36 am

#142 Regjeg on 11.22.20 at 9:11 pm

#24 The real Kip (Ret) on 11.22.20 at 2:39 pm

What could Trump do to crash markets at this point? He’s going, going, gone on the way to being completely irrelevant on the world stage.

He could order an air strike on Iran’s uranium enrichment sites. Mr. Market would have a no good, very bad day if that happened. Trump remains the commander in chief of the world’s most powerful military.

Not a terrible idea to buy some portfolio insurance. It’s very cheap now that demand is about as low as it goes. Maybe buy some Feb expiring SPX puts for your kids for Christmas? They make great stocking stuffers! Better than a putato! See what I did there?

#179 BillyBob on 11.23.20 at 4:46 am

I think you’d find that the quarantine observation in BC at least is a joke. Hardly any followup to speak of to see if folks are complying. Anything that relies on people being responsible in the most selfish and self-absorbed province in the country is guaranteed to fail.

And whatever contact tracing there might have been seems to have collapsed completely. Friend of mine owns a chiropractic practice in Langley, tested positive. Immediately informed the province and put himself in isolation, emailed his clients to tell them.

Two weeks later no one from the health authorities has contacted a single one of his clients. What’s the point of this system?

I was toying with heading back to Canada for a Christmas visit. But why would I? There doesn’t seem to be a testing option to remove the quarantine option and since unlike many, I’d actually follow the rules I’d be stuck in isolation for 2 weeks. Forget it, I’ll spend my money elsewhere. Some relative on Zoom said they thought I could get a test in Vancouver for $300 but with the extra travel costs that becomes a non-starter.

Why are the provincial health authorities so against proper testing? In Europe for months now you can get a test at the airport for about $100CAD and once negative, no isolation. (CYYC seems to be an exception, but can’t serve the entire country!) The airlines and travel industry have been thrown under the bus by government policy. Canada’s whole response seems to be based on shutting everything down and showering people with money. Popular no doubt, but almost criminally stupid. $500/week of CERB/EI/whatever would pay for a lot of tests. Test weekly and if you’re negative, off to work. Positive, into tight isolation. Has anyone even bothered to see how places like Taiwan do it? “But at least we’re not the US”. Ok then.

Meanwhile Dr. Henry finally decides 8 months into a pandemic that maybe wearing masks indoors is a good idea. And people revere her for her choice in footwear. Bizarro.

#180 Sky on 11.23.20 at 5:45 am

Western govt pandemic response:

• Ineffective — Monolithic response (lockdowns) to a multifaceted problem. BOO! Lockdowns themselves haphazardly implemented with 1000s fleeing the hot zone cities ahead of lockdown.

• Hypocritical — Another day another picture. Govt officials ignoring the same regulations imposed on the rest of us. Reminiscent of the French aristocracy prior to the Revolution. Flaunting their great wealth, power & privilege in the face of starving serfs.

• Chaotic —Maelstrom of poorly communicated & contradictory health regulations. Nobody can keep up. Here in the Okanagan : NOONE allowed inside private homes unless you already live there. This includes family.
But you CAN still meet with them inside restaurants.

These harsh restrictions have yielded poor results in terms of virus spread.

And if this goes on for much longer — the concurrent pain & stress (which has thus far been confined to the economic and mental spheres) will manifest in the physical. Massive social unrest.

The 2 flashpoints I see are forced vaccination and threatening USA gun rights.

One would think that the brutal Manitoba winter would be sufficient to enforce COVID compliance. So why has Manitoba hired private security to enforce regulations? Shouldn’t this money have gone to hospitals instead?

And not just any private security. These guys:

“The Chaos Company”

“Wherever governments can’t—or won’t—maintain order…the London-based “global security” behemoth G4S has been filling the void. It is the world’s third-largest private-sector employer…”

“G4S is based near London and is traded on the stock exchange there. Though it remains generally unknown to the public, it has operations in 120 countries and more than 620,000 employees. ”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/04/g4s-global-security-company

“The province has hired security firm G4S Canada to boost its enforcement of COVID-19 regulations,”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/covid19-enforcement-update-manitoba-pallister-1.5804774

#181 Diamond Dog on 11.23.20 at 6:28 am

#126 Theyounggreek on 11.22.20 at 7:59 pm

You aren’t missing anything. The results from Pfizer and Moderna are not peer viewed, of a small sample size and their parameters are in my mind, more conducive to market pumping news release PR than it is to an effective vaccine with the goal of herd immunity in mind.

CNBC ran the story “Vaccine is the biggest medical breakthrough in 100 years!” (bigger than penicillin apparently, bigger than the 14 disease vaccine schedule we currently have, bigger than Jesus, yup) What the masses later learned mid week is that the CEO from Pfizer who was quoted here, sold 62% of his stock in Pfizer on the same day as his statement. The hype train:

https://extra.ie/2020/11/09/featured/watch-pfizer-ceo-says-covid-vaccine-is-the-biggest-medical-breakthrough-in-100-years

And the CEO cashing in:

https://financialpost.com/financial-times/why-the-pfizer-ceo-selling-62-of-his-stock-the-same-day-as-the-vaccine-announcement-looks-bad?r

The market naturally goes up in response to media hype and next thing you know this pandemic is declared done like “winner winner chicken diner”, its all blue skies from here, “look, investors are back it must be so, the market is prescient, the market knows” yup. The problem is, when you raise the bar of expectations like this and the private sector under performs, investors also respond in kind.

If, for example, peer viewed efficacy drops to 70% (which would be inline with expectations a couple months ago, expecting 90 to 95% preliminary results like what we witnessed reported, dropping to 70% over a few months as the numbers firm up) and you get 50% vaccination participation among adults, you get 35% herd immunity. You need between 60 to 85% herd immunity depending on how easily transmissible the virus is (airborne, etc.) to eradicate a disease.

These are all ifs, of course. Perhaps efficacy really is as high as the 90+% non peer viewed claims we witnessed a couple weeks back and the CEO of Pfizer was just being opportunistic, but it’s rationally hard not to remain skeptical. Here’s an example of 2 trials 90% and 62% effective from the same company with different doses from the link below. The difference may not be the difference in dosages, but the small trial samples (and trial demographics):

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/astrazeneca-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-can-be-up-to-90-effective-late-stage-trials-show-11606121833?mod=hp_minor_pos19

I could go on… there is a correlation between covid19 and skin color, we think its linked to Vitamin D deficiencies, there is a correlation between covid19 numbers and the consumption of sea foods (high in Vitamin D and Zinc) so there are also regional correlations. It would not be unfathomable for vaccine manufacturers “of whom it is their business to know this stuff”, to tilt the scales in their favor with demographics and regions in mind with their studies especially with “non peer viewed” data.

Btw readers, for those who wish for comments to be shut down, its comments like the one you just read that argue for them to remain. Everyone is in their own bubble. I’ll say it again, everyone is in their own bubble. Not just you the reader, or me the “un silent minority”, but Garth and fellow money managers. They’re in it too. It’s a different kind of bubble as one would imagine, but a bubble just the same.

One way to pop that bubble is to open the door of random opinion to the masses, to get the finger on the pulse of what is really going on. It’s called feedback specific to what’s on your mind. Some of it in any blog is pure crap but endurable, some of it is cruel and sadistic, the product of an unhealthy mind worthy only of deletion unless, of course, we choose to make an example of it. Some of it doesn’t relate to the conversation at all (we’ve got our reading filters for that) and some of it is for needed distraction (if you don’t understand why, get a puppy) but some of it is TRUTH.

That gem, that nugget we’ve been mining for, that dose of reality we’ve waded through all of the noise and horse shit in search for, that jewel is worth it. (sort of… yeah, had to think about that for a moment lol, but its worth it) Sure, it gets dirty at times, can even cost a visionary his job in politics but it’s the way of this Earthy world and “the truth shall set you free”.

#182 Diamond Dog on 11.23.20 at 7:40 am

“If, for example, peer viewed efficacy drops to 70% (which would be inline with expectations a couple months ago, expecting 90 to 95% preliminary results like what we witnessed reported, dropping to 70% over a few months as the numbers firm up) and you get 50% vaccination participation among adults, you get 35% herd immunity. – Diamond Dog

My bad, It’s actually 28+% herd immunity if vaccines have 70% efficacy with a 50% participation rate and ages 0 to 14 aren’t vaccinated. The expectation is that children aged 0 to 14 won’t be vaccinated which is 18.3% of the current population. Ages 15 to 29 is another 20.3% of the current gen pop. Where do you draw the line?

https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/

Youth spreads it the most, but suffers the least:

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/COVID-19-Cases-by-Age-Group.aspx

To achieve herd immunity, we need a minimum of 70% efficacy (realistically, a number higher than this) and high adult participation, I’m thinking north of 80%. The only way I can see that being achieved is with complete and total transparency with full media support world wide. This thing, the more I think on it, will take years relying on vaccines alone to get it under control unless…

Unless we wise up and under new leadership go old school and follow the Chinese, Taiwan, Singapore, South Korean model. It goes back to cel apps using GPS trackers and temp guns. I can’t stress enough the use of temp guns with Asian efforts to create virus free zones. It would be hard to trace the links back, but as I remember it, Covid19 causes a temperature with people that don’t yet realize they are sick, its often the first symptom.

High temps come in roughly 95% of those who show symptoms. Asymptomatic spread was found to show in 1.5% of asymptomatic cases (not the higher numbers sensationalized by media). These numbers combined with the use of temp guns and cel apps with GPS tracking infected (China has a big advantage here with 62.5% of the gen pop owning a cel phone, I think its 38.5% in Canada at the beginning of the year) are the big reasons why China was able to get it under control.

In China if you ran a high temp you were under a 1 week quarantine restriction until you were tested, 2 weeks if you had a close family member infected. The contact test and trace, the shutdowns of traffic in areas of high infection (Wuhan), once again the use of temp guns and cel phone apps, the history is there on how China got this under control. Unless the RNA has fundamentally changed in some way with Covid19, even with the high rates of infection, I think with the same use of technology we can get it under control at the source of infection and vaccines are a nice compliment, they can a play a vital role but vaccines to achieve herd immunity on its own?

By the time vaccines are approved by the FDA and ready for the gen pop hopefully in April, we’ll have a good idea of the true efficacy and some idea of the longevity of vaccines and I do hope that vaccines will be 90% effective but if efficacy is only 70% or less and too high of a percentage of adults don’t voluntarily comply, this pandemic, outside of old school Asian tactics, will continue on for at least several years or more.

Of course if this virus mutates into a strain with a separate Serotype it would be an obvious setback to the reliance on vaccines and would likely make this pandemic more deadly as outlined in the past in this at times didactic blog with the explanation of AGE and Original Antigenic Sin but even with more strains with different Serotypes circulating, it doesn’t relegate the fact that China, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand and to a lesser degree Japan, have models of success in creating near virus free nations with this disease and would continue to do so if more strains emerged!

When North Americans get tired of the death and suffering and misinformation and set aside the pride, we can do that here. When we are divided, and misinformed, we are weak and scattered helpless like leaves twisting helpless in the wind (seeing is believing) but! When we are united and of one mind, together there is literally nothing that we cannot do. (believing is seeing)

#183 Dwilly on 11.23.20 at 8:00 am

Garth, with all due respect, I think you are misleading your readers to some degree regarding the Covid pandemic. It is certainly not “nothing”, and to be fair, Mr. Lamb’s comment is “imprecise” to say the least. However, he is “directionally correct” in much of it, in saying that the worst is almost certainly behind us, and that we now understand that there are better strategies that would more effectively reduce harm of the pandemic itself (to say nothing of economic damage) which should be pursued, and should have been pursued all along. This position is supported by an increasing number of medical professionals and I would be happy to provide you with further information or discuss if you wish.

#184 When Will They Raise Rates? on 11.23.20 at 8:04 am

Britons who test negative for Covid twice in a week are set to receive a ‘freedom pass’ under government scheme that will allow them to live a normal life 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8974617/Britons-test-negative-Covid-twice-week-set-receive-freedom-pass.html

#185 CTO on 11.23.20 at 8:05 am

Garth
lets get this back to a real estate blog.
As you may have noticed, my mindset has changed in the last 5 years or so towards real estate. I do NOT trumpet this segment telling people to get out there and buy now,…
however it has been demonstrated since 2008 that the Canadian government and BOC will go to ever increasing limits to support a market sooo far outside of fundamentals!
This support is clearly damaging to those who are not tied up in the real estate game, that includes:
-pensioners and pension funds, investments
-our children
-renters
-people who own 1 residence that’s approx 1/3-1/2 of your net worth. (not vert many).

The actions they are taking are unforgivable by many, and many who don’t even know it yet.
They (Gov, BOC) need to be held accountable.
Lets focus on this again….

#186 Helen Mervin on 11.23.20 at 9:10 am

Obama laughs when asked about Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-nov-23-2020-1.5809458/obama-calls-trump-era-an-anomaly-in-canada-u-s-relations-1.5809466?fbclid=IwAR250V0IGz1WBPf_CKM_bSxhDbA9FwHvKoTivH6UHYotukJB6yKCDpTjHAU

Obama’s last act in office was to screw Canada by killing off thousands of jobs in Alberta. Asked why he scribbled a last minute executive order that flew in the face of his own science he said “I’m doing this for appearances sake”. Obama smashed thousands of AB jobs as a gift to his future audience of book buyers to cement his credentials as a radical.

Now that CBC and Liberal agents are celebrating Obama on our airwaves let’s remember that he was an enemy of Canada, not a friend.

#187 Asking a better question on 11.23.20 at 9:18 am

“I’ve read your blog daily since it started and have observed the evolution of your frustration with the comments section,” writes Lloyd. “I actually rarely read the comments as I am mindful of my mental/emotional health (…). I really don’t know how you do it, sir.”

Garth,

Lloyd makes a good point about being mindful of one’s mental/emotional health.

Here is my effort to help by asking a better question:

Image if you had been writing this blog for the last 10+ years without the comments section. Then somebody approaches you suggesting to add a comment section knowing that your stress/frustration will go way up which will negatively impact your mental/emotional health. Would you add the comment section? Would Dorothy?

#188 Dharma Bum on 11.23.20 at 9:21 am

#53 MF

The conspiracy theorists know as much as everyone else, which is nothing. Listening to them has no value.
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That’s not entirely true.

Never underestimate the power of entertainment value.

Listening to nut jobs blather on is highly amusing. It’s fun.

#189 Bdwy on 11.23.20 at 9:23 am

Lloyd. “I actually rarely read the comments as I am mindful of my mental/emotional health….

……….
Fragile lloyd if words on a screen (from ramdon people who you.have no connection with whatsoever) can damage your mental health then the problem isn’t words, it’s you. And its a major problem for which you should consider getting help for.

For now stay in your safe space by not.clicking the comments.

Goof luck with your journey of healing.

Here’s a tip toget you started …

HARDEN UP!

#190 Asking a better question on 11.23.20 at 9:30 am

#185 Bdwy on 11.23.20 at 9:23 am

Lloyd. “I actually rarely read the comments as I am mindful of my mental/emotional health….

……….
Fragile lloyd if words on a screen (from ramdon people who you.have no connection with whatsoever) can damage your mental health then the problem isn’t words, it’s you. And its a major problem for which you should consider getting help for.

For now stay in your safe space by not.clicking the comments.

Goof luck with your journey of healing.

Here’s a tip toget you started …

HARDEN UP!

******

point made

#191 Bdwy on 11.23.20 at 9:54 am

Garth i apologize for the bad language at the end of my previous post which you thoughtfully removed. It was a quote from a video posted here a couple days ago which i found quite funny and relevant for these times. But your edit was fair and effective.

,…….

B.bob -Meanwhile Dr. Henry finally decides 8 months into a pandemic that maybe wearing masks indoors is a good idea

I dont think it was her decision. She wrote a passionate op ed just days previous against it. She was pressured by Dix.

#192 Bob Vonner on 11.23.20 at 9:55 am

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#193 jal on 11.23.20 at 10:00 am

“What could Trump do to crash markets at this point? He’s going, going, gone on the way to being completely irrelevant on the world stage.”
—–
1. Stop printing money
2. Impose/control health costs
3. Bring the troops home
4. Pardon prisoners, close the prisons
5. Arrest the elites and the enablers
6. Make illegal immigrants legal.

#194 Dharma Bum on 11.23.20 at 10:18 am

Forget about the inconvenience of an arbitrary lockdown.

It snowed an inch in Toronto last night.

Now for Torontonians, THAT’s a serious emergency that necessitates a lockdown and armed forces intervention at the best of times.

Toronto is very delicate and fragile.

York region, on the other hand is WIDE OPEN!

Come on over and get your hair and nails done, go shopping, grab a bite to eat, and live a little.

But stay out of Peel Region. Yikes.

#195 SunShowers on 11.23.20 at 10:21 am

Vets closed?
So if your pet is sick during lockdown you’re out of luck?

Seems callous and a poor decision…other provinces like Manitoba classify vets as essential during lockdown.

#196 FriedEggs on 11.23.20 at 10:24 am

York/Toronto, please dont come to Hamilton and access our 200+ Tim Hortons.

We may have crappy homes like Tragina Ave – but at least we are compliant and obedient lil Hammertonians of 550K pop.

#197 FriedEggs on 11.23.20 at 10:25 am

*Peel (not York)

#198 Maurice on 11.23.20 at 10:26 am

Garth, I regard your blog as a daily “must-read” and enjoy it very much. I have never bothered with the comments section until today. You provide your wisdom freely and people can take it or leave it. You should never be subjected to abuse because of what you write. I think you should delete the comments section or at least be very strict with your culling. Your readers need and appreciate you, so well done and thank you very much for what you do.

#199 The West on 11.23.20 at 10:31 am

Hitler’s trajectory to power was a cultural gradation, the moment Bismarck signed off on the Unification of Prussia in 1871 Germany was predestined for a show down with all of its neighours. You could blame Napoleon for trashing the Rhineland not once but twice. Or you could blame England for seeing the rise of Germany’s industrial capacity as a direct threat to their economic choke hold of Europe. Either way Germany was desperate and left starving and cold by the terms of WW1, Hitler is a strawman argument. Germany would still be where it was in 1919 if not for WW2. He scared the English a lot (and England might deserved it, they’re not a beacon of freedom and hope either and have rarely “played nice” with their brothers in Europe). Hitler (or Bonaparte) won’t happen in the current western world.

You know who might happen though; Lenin (Stalin), Pol Pot, Mao or even Chavez. They rode populism built on the backs of gross economic inequality by promising universalism to all and then delivered hellscapes of “Social Engineering” to cure humanity of their corruption.

I detest flavored history. It moves us in the direction that the establishment wants to go. Hitler – BAD, Lenin – GOOD.

All in all, desperation and unchecked establishment corruption destroys everything. And, I will add, the pandemic did not do this to us overnight. Financial Capitalism has been an unmitigated disaster for the western world. Privatizing the profits and socializing the losses over the course of decades leads to this.

Slick Willy, the champion of “The People” did this, that’s the history. Clinton and Obama are responsible for the biggest wealth transfers “upwards” in history. Trump or Biden what was the difference? Really, what is the difference?

Pink Floyd put this aptly (Us and Them from Dark Side of the Moon) “With, without…and who’ll deny its what the fighting’s all about.’

Keep the history coming good sir, this is where our current void falls woefully short moving into a future uncertain.

#200 Love Guru's Dad on 11.23.20 at 10:33 am

A mind that is free – J. Krishnamurti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJm-N4B_odA

#201 Bdwy on 11.23.20 at 10:57 am

Garth, I regard your blog as a daily “must-read” and enjoy it very much. I always real the comments section everyday. You provide your wisdom freely and people can take it or leave it. You should never be subjected to abuse because of what you write. I think you should keep the comments section exactly as is, achieving the perfect balance with your excellent and and wise moderation.
thank you very much for what you do.

#202 Tommy on 11.23.20 at 11:12 am

Wow. I just read through all the comments and I am truly shocked at all the people who are so willing to dispense with free speech and independent thought. Did it ever occur to some of you that the inconvenience of scrolling past a comment you don’t like pales in comparison to the violation of natural human rights that occurs when someone is censored? Censorship is already off the charts, especially in Canada, and there’s people calling for more of it! Maybe Ibam wrong and Garth is more in tune with public sentiment than I thought. People don’t actually want free speech. Okay then. I will shut up now and refrain from sharing my insights, views, and experiences since they are clearly not wanted.

#203 mick McClean on 11.23.20 at 11:43 am

Is it so hard for “Hanging out in YYC” and others to understand that they are in no way obligated to read the comments? Myself and others enjoy them immensely, especially those that are short, concise and to the point.

#204 AACI Home-Dog on 11.23.20 at 11:48 am

Lunatic Fringe…seems to fit the mood these days. A bit of Canadiana, too…

https://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/r/red_rider/lunatic_fringe.html

#205 SoggyShorts on 11.23.20 at 11:53 am

#147 Jay on 11.22.20 at 9:26 pm
Trudeau says reduce your social circle. Okay I’ll cancel the kids soccer games. Sorry no refunds. I should probably cancel my other kids dance class then. Sorry no refunds. Nevermind were committed to both I guess. I’m not walking away from thousands.

Maybe I’ll cancel that ski trip then, the one that forced us to pre-purchase the lift tickets, but not so smart now that cases are rising. Sorry no refunds.

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How far in advance did you have to pay for this stuff? I mean we’ve known about the pandemic for a while…

#206 Slim on 11.23.20 at 12:02 pm

Below is an update on the coronavirus death rate in several countries. Interesting that Canada’s death rate per million, so far is about half of Sweden’s.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/11/coronavirus-growth-in-western-countries-november-21-update/

#207 Stone Walker on 11.23.20 at 12:17 pm

Does this mean the ban hammer is coming out more often?
I agree, things are confusing in the world these days. Lot’s unanswered questions, lots of bogus stories, lot’s of denier’s, loads of propaganda and way too much emotion.
Just curious, was there some info I missed debunking the great reset? read the post but didn’t see any reference material. I’ve watched the WEF video’s about their ideas, yes, pretty ambitious, however, these are very powerful, rich people and political leaders saying it. Got my attention
I spoke with a friend yesterday and mentioned these elites are talking about this plan. His reply was that he didn’t believe, and it’s a “Conspiracy theory” I asked if he had watched any of the WEF video’s or done any research on the topic, the answer was no. He went on to say that it was a lie. Who is the conspiracy theorist now?
In any case, whether it happens or not, these people have made changes over the years the WEF has been in place. preventing war between Turkey and Greece in the 1980s and helping resolve the eurozone’s debt crisis in 2012 It brought together world leaders as oppositional as South Africa’s Nelson Mandela and F.W. de Klerk in 1992 and Yasser Arafat and Shimon Peres in 1994 and 2001.
I agree that think tanks are a crazy idea, it scares me how much influence they’ve got. The “Mid east peace plan” was the result of a Harvard think tank. That not only didn’t go as planned, but cost millions of lives. Just one example. I hope more people start treating them like a joke, so far they’ve been taken too seriously.
Why did these elites publicly expose this plan/idea?
I’ve been reading viewpoints from both sides and am having a hard time figuring that part out. Do they know that people will refuse to believe this will happen even if they openly say that’s their plan? Or is it just their far fetched dream their trying to sell to the public? I just don’t see the reason for this group coming out with this, especially if the majority will deny it to the point of saying the video was a dubbed voice over and Klaus Schwab didn’t even say “Great reset” there’s a conspiracy theory lol
Hope I can still post, I still enjoy the blog when I stop in
Thanks for your writing

#208 Gravy Train on 11.23.20 at 12:50 pm

“It is never too late to be what you might have been.”
— George Eliot

#209 RB on 11.23.20 at 12:52 pm

Keep up the good work Garth. I look forward to reading your blog every day. It’s always entertaining and informative. Also the dog pics rock.

#210 baloney Sandwitch on 11.23.20 at 1:00 pm

Very good post today. Tribalism is something to watch for as certain types of leaders like the Trumpster are primed to exploit it.
While Canada’s handling of the pandemic has been creditable, it has come at a massive cost. Time will tell if it has been worth it. The US clearly put economics ahead of welfare, but that is their governing philosophy.

#211 Shirl Clarts on 11.23.20 at 1:15 pm

#204 Gravy Train on 11.23.20 at 12:50 pm
“It is never too late to be what you might have been.”
— George Eliot

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Recently watched The Mule on Netflix. It has a similar message.

#212 Bill on 11.23.20 at 1:17 pm

Garth says no lol No. I say YES along with the Finacial Post.
Better get your EV fall in line. Hell I got mine 5 years ago.

“But they have come together. There is a master plan.”
https://financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-the-great-reset-and-the-covid-pandemic

#213 Beetman on 11.23.20 at 1:17 pm

Why did 73 million Americans vote for a guy playing down a pathogen that killed 250,000 in thirty weeks? What led to the blog filling with those who believe a global cabal’s trying to enslave them?
The simple reason is that the people increasingly don’t trust the media because the Corperate media has pushed forth lies upon lies that emanate from a corrupt government and that sir is the problem.

#214 IHCTD9 on 11.23.20 at 1:32 pm

#147 Jay on 11.22.20 at 9:26 pm
Trudeau says reduce your social circle. Okay I’ll cancel the kids soccer games. Sorry no refunds. I should probably cancel my other kids dance class then. Sorry no refunds. Nevermind were committed to both I guess. I’m not walking away from thousands.

Maybe I’ll cancel that ski trip then, the one that forced us to pre-purchase the lift tickets, but not so smart now that cases are rising. Sorry no refunds.
____

My youngest goes (went) to a martial arts class. This was a month to month payment deal for whatever reason.

So we won’t end up SOL like we did with those airline tickets right?

The guy (teacher/owner) actually emailed asking us to keep paying the monthly even though there were no classes lol!

No escape.

#215 SniffingYogaFarts on 11.23.20 at 1:52 pm

“Nuke the comments”… yeah… This is your blog, not theirs. You don’t owe any of them anything. Let the parasites starve. Of course this is easy to say as someone who reads your blog daily and never reads the comments.

With a name like that, we’re glad. – Garth

#216 HUNGRY BEAR on 11.23.20 at 2:24 pm

What the frig is going on across Canada today?

Covid raging like a Bull in a Bong Shop.

Ya’ll need to stay home or spend Christmas in I.C.U.

#217 Faron on 11.23.20 at 2:33 pm

#210 IHCTD9 on 11.23.20 at 1:32 pm

#147 Jay on 11.22.20 at 9:26 pm

No escape.

Wow, so if I email you asking for money, you will just give it to me and feel like there is no escape? The Nigerian princes must love you.

#218 dogwhistle on 11.23.20 at 3:16 pm

#89 Dolce Vita on 11.22.20 at 6:10 pm
#76 dogwhistle

And indeed MY BAD yet no field day.

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Not sure why you felt the need to ‘attack’ me
but here goes:

https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/sante/nouvelles-restrictions-en-europe-reconfinement-a-toronto-le-point-sur-la-pandemie_2139144.html

https://www.bfmtv.com/international/canada-la-ville-de-toronto-se-confine-a-partir-de-lundi_AD-202011200368.html

https://www.rtl.fr/actu/international/coronavirus-au-canada-la-ville-de-toronto-se-confinera-a-partir-de-lundi-7800926460

https://www.ledevoir.com/societe/sante/590263/covid-19-la-grande-region-de-toronto-se-reconfine

That’s just for google.fr (use a VPN for better, FACTUAL, research.

“If it makes you happy, it can’t be that bad” lol

#219 steve on 11.23.20 at 3:37 pm

Diamond Dog’s double post (my bad, right), is longer than Garth’s post.

Who said only younger Mill’s reek of narcissism.

What compels someone to think anyone (and I mean anyone) cares about his copy and paste job.

What a waste of time…

#220 William R Drury on 11.23.20 at 8:34 pm

STILL BANNED

#221 A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE on 11.23.20 at 9:39 pm

CANADA 2020 DEFICIT PROJECTION: $348,387,600,000

#222 Genbizx on 11.24.20 at 12:31 am

My thoughts:
When we lockdown cases will go down…open up and cases will go back up. What are we trying to do? Stall till a vaccine arrives? Costly. If the most serious cases are overwhelming our hospitals maybe the issue is that our hospital buildouts and expansions are not keeping pace with a growing population. Cerb money could have helped fund this.
20,000 cases out of almost 15 million Ontarians doesn’t seem excessively high but what do I know. Many in Peel Region so…logic would say maybe investigate why?. Maybe this is happening but I don’t think people are getting covid in stores, schools, restaurants etc….bars, gyms, multi-family/friend visits? Yep…
And Garth, I know you find it a tough question, “How did Trump get elected?” He’s a goof but if you are drowning you reach out to any hand that might help. That
and some just feel strongly that Republicans may protect certain values more than the other side so they always vote Republican regardless (ie. Rights of unborn babies.. etc.)

#223 Jenn on 11.24.20 at 7:37 am

First, let me say I am left-leaning. Yet here I come to read your blog. There is a reason for that.
I suppose I miss your brand of conservative, which seems less and less common these days (Too many O’Tooles and Fords out there, never mind what it looks like in the States).
I don’t always agree with what you say, but you back up your arguments with sources, data and reasoning. This is missing from the current right we have, where xenophobia and opinions are being held up as fact.
I miss political discourse that was actually about politics. Finance strategies. Spending and cuts. Laws. Foreign policy.
Now politics seems to centre around whether or not certain groups get the same rights as everyone else, or whether we should even protect each other from disease. I suppose a lot of noise is expected from angry people who are resistant to change. But it’s exhausting.

Keep it up. You’re a reasonable person. And there’s plenty I agree with you about, which reminds me that bi-partisan understanding is entirely possible, and that gives me some hope.

#224 Mithan on 11.24.20 at 8:28 am

This is about keeping the load down in hospitals, something you people always forget.

#225 Prince Polo on 11.24.20 at 8:39 am

#55 Hawk on 11.22.20 at 4:16 pm

People such as Ron Paul, Trump, (whatever you think of him), Freedom Caucus Senators, the ancient Greeks in Athens, you tubers, alternate media figure heads, etc choose to discuss things. They don’t believe silencing their opponents is the right course of action.

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Oh, that was funny! Mr. Trump doesn’t intimidate/shut-down dissenting views? Dozens of fired White House staffers may have a different opinion.

#226 Michael Kehoe on 11.24.20 at 9:30 am

History repeats itself Garth

In the late 80s and early 90s when the housing market crashed in Toronto there was another “Condo King”. Martin Atkins like Brad Lamb was an excellent salesman but his downfall was getting into the development side of the business as well, just like Brad Lam

https://nationalpost.remembering.ca/obituary/martin-atkins-1070808220

#227 Prince Polo on 11.24.20 at 11:00 am

#124 KAC on 11.22.20 at 7:45 pm

The most chilling comment I read on today’s comments was “ anonymous posting leaves no consequences”. We already have some of the more extreme Democrat Congress members calling for archives and lists of Trump supporters so they can be denied any employment in government jobs. That is a very slippery slope with echoes of the very worst totalitarian states.
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The full quote was actually “ Also, anonymous posting leaves no consequences, so people are emboldened to act irresponsibly with no empathy, and occasionally with overtones of overt dickishness.”

Perhaps the irony (of dickishness) was lost on me in posting it that way and not elaborating. I am not advocating for punishing others with differing opinions.

My point was that anonymity may lead to uncivil exchange of ideas and bravely making comments that are blatant lies. However, if one is comfortable making same comments regardless of name attached or not, then bravo for being reasonable in your daily interactions.

If you still feel chilled, then may I suggest a winter coat?

#228 john on 11.24.20 at 11:08 am

$472 billion