The other guy

On a day when fresh Rona cases topped 100,000 (again) and the central bank kept the emergency taps open, America lurched towards a new leader. A great country it is, but messed up. As Robin Williams once said, Canada’s location is the equivalent of a really nice apartment over a meth lab.

So the big blue wave never happened. But neither did MAGA. Looks like a Democrat-run House and Republican-led Senate will be working with the other guy in the White House and Trump’s Supreme Court. How the lame duck president will react to this is not entirely clear. But there are 68 million people who voted for him and a lot of them are pissed. Waiting for direction. And they have guns. Many, many guns. Big ones. And pickups. Camo underwear too, likely.

Maybe 45 will surprise us, embrace peaceful transition for the greater good of the country, and slink back to NYC. Nah, me neither. But we can hope.

In any case, the stock market has been on an election tear, once it became clear (a) Joe Biden would squeak in and (b) the Dems would not control Congress. Shooting the lights out have been the Dow, the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq. Investors poured back into tech, the FAANG companies and health care.

Despite higher jobless claims, a presidential contest that could still turn into a brawl, recession, unemployment and a pandemic arguably out of control, up she goes. Investors with US equity exposure (should be about 20% of your portfolio) are giddy. Hell, even Bay Street’s on a tear – adding 300 points as I write this.

So, howcum? How does this make any more sense than, say, middle-income Canadians snapping up million-dollar houses with 10x leverage while the economy tanks?

First, it’s a relief rally. Mr. Market really thought Biden’s bruisers might swamp Congress and sweep in a radical tax-and-spend agenda. Nope. Didn’t happen.

Second, this means Trump’s corporate tax cut will probably stay intact – and that was a major fire-starter for Wall Street. Third, no blue wave means breaking up tech giants like Apple or Amazon (part of the Democratic agenda) is unlikely to happen. So the Nasdaq has erupted.

Fourth, stimulus. It’s coming. Biden will push for a package worth about $2 trillion and while the Senate may water it down, there’s now no political reason to hold the thing up. This will goose the economy, put more cash into households and worm its way into the capital markets. Before Christmas (if they let us have one).

Fifth, but with a divided Dem-Rep Congress there’ll be less new government spending than Biden might want. So the betting is the Fed will make up the difference with more QE and sustained low interest rates. For a long time. Markets love cheap money.

Sixth, no contested election. Investors figure Trump’s blustering, his tweets, the groundless charges of electoral fraud and his spate of specious suits are all theatre. After all, the guy got four million fewer votes than Biden, and still thinks he should have won. Maybe in his world. Not in this one.

Seventh, a divided Washington with tempered spending also means less need for deficit financing. That eases pressure on the bond market, where yields tumbled as the drama unfolded. Lower bond returns means higher prices (good for balanced portfolios) and also shoves cash into equities where investors can make much better bank.

Eighth, personal tax increases are far more uncertain now that the Senate is red. The Bidenettes wanted to jack the bill of everyone making over 400 large, which is just so damn un-American. And, Ninth, it’s over! (Almost, sort of.) After a two-year, vitriolic, low-class election campaign, the balloting is behind us, even if the counting and grousing remain.

Now, of course, the hard stuff begins. The virus promises to be seriously ugly over the next two to four months. That could temporarily gut the GDP, spike the jobless rate and make Trump’s head explode. He’ll be all over Biden like a jilted, jealous, malevolent ex.

After that, Mr. Market sees the promised land. A vaccine. Good therapies. Global growth. Restored profits. And a president who is mercifully, thankfully, gratefully, finally a total bore.

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#1 Hurtin' Albertan on 11.05.20 at 2:25 pm

Calgary used to be where the jobs were … but not anymore: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/road-ahead-calgary-jobs-remote-work-1.5788442

This opinion piece echoes what Garth has been writing for a while. Increased remote work will dramatically impact the tax base of cities like Calgary

#2 chopstix on 11.05.20 at 2:31 pm

Fingers crossed for McDonald Trump, the orange turd, to be get turfed from office.
this recent column from The Atlantic says so much of what has happened to the USA from Trump’s involvement.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/large-portion-electorate-chose-sociopath/616994/
”A Large Portion of the Electorate Chose the Sociopath
America will have to contend with that fact.”
excerpt:
”A win for Biden would forestall that terrible possibility.
But no matter how this election concludes, America is now a different country. Nearly half of the voters have seen Trump in all of his splendor—his infantile tirades, his disastrous and lethal policies, his contempt for democracy in all its forms—and they decided that they wanted more of it. His voters can no longer hide behind excuses about the corruption of Hillary Clinton or their willingness to take a chance on an unproven political novice. They cannot feign ignorance about how Trump would rule. They know, and they have embraced him.

Sadly, the voters who said in 2016 that they chose Trump because they thought he was “just like them” turned out to be right. Now, by picking him again, those voters are showing that they are just like him: angry, spoiled, racially resentful, aggrieved, and willing to die rather than ever admit that they were wrong.”

#3 Ael Idich on 11.05.20 at 2:32 pm

One of s few problems with this serene prediction. Biden won’t be president for long. The Dems themselves will remove him. This whole Horror Show was to shoe horn Kamala into the presidency. I imagine many will not be so satisfied with that happening. The clown show will continue. Volatility, uncertainty (not just about what Biden is saying), and the divisions will grow greater.

Balanced, diversified (the correct kind) and debt free. That’s the ticket.
AI

You can end with the conspiracy junk any time now. It’s over. – Garth

#4 Joke Biden on 11.05.20 at 2:39 pm

As Robin Williams once said, Canada’s location is the equivalent of a really nice apartment over a meth lab.

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If anyone would know ….

#5 Dolce Vita on 11.05.20 at 2:39 pm

“And they have guns. Many, many guns. Big ones. And pickups. Camo underwear too, likely.”

Are you sure you’re not describing Alberta there My Liege (and maybe even East of Abbotsford, Woodstock et. environs)?

Sorry Alberta, one of your least favorite sons could not resist.

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THAT was good Garth. REALLY good.

#6 Apocalypse2020 on 11.05.20 at 2:39 pm

#138 willworkforpickles

‘Trump supporters want a vote count halt and independent re-examination and recount of mail-in ballots in Michigan and Arizona. Pennsylvania is heating up also. They get it or they revolt. If Biden loses, the other side revolts. It isn’t guesswork anymore. Civil unrest is coming…just how extreme is anybody’s guess.’

You said it. Accurately. The unknown, yet highly probable, elements here are extraordinarily explosive. A CBC radio reporter in Phoenix just reported he fully expects severe violence shortly based on what he has experienced the last 24 hours. (David Common, CBC Radio)

This demand to ‘sequester’ and then eliminate Biden mail ballots is a ticking time bomb.

Then the chaos begins.

Global Catastrophe is next.

Hours. Days.

No longer months.

When this happens you will realize that you have already run out of time to protect yourselves.

Some resources to assist you:

https://torontoobserver.ca/2020/04/22/survival-and-sustainability-how-canadian-preppers-are-encouraging-self-sustenance-amidst-covid-19/

https://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/features/its-not-a-bad-idea-to-have-a-safety-net-canadian-prepper-shows-others-how

https://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/episodes/preparing-for-armageddon

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/we-should-all-be-preppers/611074/

PREPARE

#7 Prince Polo on 11.05.20 at 2:48 pm

My prediction is on Jan. 21, Twitter finally has the cojones to block somebody’s Twitter account and never look back!

#8 Dolce Vita on 11.05.20 at 2:57 pm

Congratulations 46 (if only that were your that age, all the better).

Orange spray on tan man gone, bad hair plug man in.

America. The Beautiful.

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(which reminds me, America named after Amerigo Vespucci so, you know, they could just as easily have called it Vespucci…now sing along with me: “Oh beautiful, for spacious skies, For amber waves of grain…Ves-puuu-uci, Ves-puuu-uci, ‘Til all success be…)

And, 2 continents named after him too:

North Vespucci
South Vespucci

Hey.

What living in Europe does to you (later follows Europe Virus Porn – more MOOSE problems in Sweden).

#9 Dan in Vancouver on 11.05.20 at 3:00 pm

Count on continued CB stimulus ad infinitum. Stimulus is the market. And yeah, the potential of exponential SARS-CoV-2 case increase grinding us down again this winter is very real. A parabolic stock market rise (relief rally) coupled with a parabolic SARS-Cov-2 case increase… seems very deflationary to me.

#10 Jay on 11.05.20 at 3:08 pm

#1 Hurtin’ Albertan on 11.05.20 at 2:25 pm

Calgary used to be where the jobs were … but not anymore: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/road-ahead-calgary-jobs-remote-work-1.5788442
_____________________________________
Typical garbage CBC article, while I agree the downtown Calgary is majorly screwed, this is also partly to do with City council and their idiot policies, such as purposely driving downtown parking to the highest in north America, mandating that no additional lanes be built into downtown, causing major traffic jams, crazy tax increases every single year and constant spending on useless pet projects.

and comments like this: “Now with less park space and more coal mines”.

Really….I’ve lived in Calgary my entire life and have never seen a coal mine within City limits. What a stupid comment. Calgary has more park space than most cities. Its comments like that from eastern journalists that make everyone from Calgary so sour on the rest of the country, especially when they turn around and preach inclusion and acceptance on their soap box.

#11 El presidente on 11.05.20 at 3:11 pm

2024…..I’ll be back!

#12 C V on 11.05.20 at 3:16 pm

No contested election??? It’s 2020, who knows what will happen in the next 2 weeks. I wouldn’t be surprised if this whole thing gets turned upside down and Trump takes the W

#13 Joseph R. on 11.05.20 at 3:17 pm

#138 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 10:29 am
Trump supporters want a vote count halt and independent re-examination and recount of mail-in ballots in Michigan and Arizona. Pennsylvania is heating up also.
They get it or they revolt. If Biden loses, the other side revolts.
It isn’t guesswork anymore. Civil unrest is coming…just how extreme is anybody’s guess.

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Plus ca change, plus c’est pareil. How true this is as I just crossed the big 4-0 line…

I don’t expect “Civil Unrest” as much as I expect a repeat of the Tea Party. Remember humble countrymen “Just Asking Questions” about Obama’s “constitutional illegitimacy” to the High Office due to his birth certificate.

On January 21, 2021, questioning the President’s motive will no longer be Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) but it will be view as True Patriotism (TP).

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants” will come back as the rallying call of “Good Old Boys” who mean no harm. Simple, humble men demanding respect of their first Amendment rights so that they won’t need to use their Second Amendment right

#14 Dolce Vita on 11.05.20 at 3:21 pm

I hate to tell you this Garth BUT your 8 points make no sense at all…wait a minute it’s COVID-19 Month 9…sorry, my bad.

——————-

Cdn Virus Porn – Royalty and Cdn Gov Math

King Singh and his prorogued royal courtesan Princesse Trudeau still spending $ 100’s of Billions to keep you unemployed and out of business even though few of you are getting sick, let alone dying ’cause its easier to print money than to take that money and give it to Provinces so they can increase ICU and hospital beds and render harmless the vulnerable.

The NEW GOV CDN MATH.

(there were other synonyms to “courtesan” I could have used Garth, cut me some slack)

#15 Inequity on 11.05.20 at 3:24 pm

#6 Apocalypse2020

2 days prepare… then tomorrow prepare… now since the date has passed you just say prepare. Just like the Apocalypse in 2012, and 2000, etc…

Stop wasting electrons ya nutbar hillbilly inbred goat loving cottage dweller. lol

#16 James on 11.05.20 at 3:34 pm

#6 Apocalypse2020 on 11.05.20 at 2:39 pm

#138 willworkforpickles

‘Trump supporters want a vote count halt and independent re-examination and recount of mail-in ballots in Michigan and Arizona. Pennsylvania is heating up also. They get it or they revolt. If Biden loses, the other side revolts. It isn’t guesswork anymore. Civil unrest is coming…just how extreme is anybody’s guess.’

You said it. Accurately. The unknown, yet highly probable, elements here are extraordinarily explosive. A CBC radio reporter in Phoenix just reported he fully expects severe violence shortly based on what he has experienced the last 24 hours. (David Common, CBC Radio)

This demand to ‘sequester’ and then eliminate Biden mail ballots is a ticking time bomb.

Then the chaos begins.

Global Catastrophe is next.

Hours. Days.

No longer months.

When this happens you will realize that you have already run out of time to protect yourselves.

Some resources to assist you:

https://torontoobserver.ca/2020/04/22/survival-and-sustainability-how-canadian-preppers-are-encouraging-self-sustenance-amidst-covid-19/

https://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/features/its-not-a-bad-idea-to-have-a-safety-net-canadian-prepper-shows-others-how

https://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/episodes/preparing-for-armageddon

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/we-should-all-be-preppers/611074/

PREPARE
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Americans in general can not stomach the fact that sometimes you will loose. Usual MO for most is to move the goalpost when they see a loss coming. Exactly what the orange turd is trying to do now. Good luck re-writing the constitution Donny Boy. If the show was on the other foot he would still be screaming bloody conspiracy theories.

#17 Smartalox on 11.05.20 at 3:41 pm

45 won’t retire to NYC, he’s a persona non grata in the Empire State.

More likely destination is Florida, where tanning is natural and where crazy goes to happen.

Better still would be an island offshore, withinin the protection of a State that doesn’t share an extradition treaty with the United States.

#18 Joseph R. on 11.05.20 at 3:43 pm

Todd Bertuzzi is coming back to Vancouver!

Todd Bertuzzi suggests he’ll move back to Vancouver if Joe Biden wins the U.S. Presidential Election

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/todd-bertuzzi-suggests-hell-move-back-to-vancouver-if-joe-biden-wins-the-us-presidential-election-2847497

#19 Ryan on 11.05.20 at 3:55 pm

Robin Williams was right. America is now the proverbial sh*thole country by far.

#20 an investor on 11.05.20 at 3:58 pm

The democrats are now radical left and Biden has compromised the US government. You better believe that American Patriots will fight back against the corruption to steal this election. Watch out.

Stand back and stand by? So scary – Garth

#21 Andrew on 11.05.20 at 4:01 pm

Bitcoin is pretty cool am I right ?

#22 Biden Ballots on 11.05.20 at 4:02 pm

Strange how in the so-called battleground states, in almost every case where it was close, they managed to find shoe-boxes full of exclusively Biden ballots strewn about!

Democracy works in mysterious ways, I suppose. I’m betting that even for PA, there is a fresh delivery of Biden ballots inbound.

Give it a rest. Everybody knows the majority of mail-in ballots were from Democratic supporters. I feel sorry for anyone swallowing Trump’s lies about widespread voter fraud. Your guy is losing. Suck it up. – Garth

#23 Investx on 11.05.20 at 4:02 pm

“groundless charges of electoral fraud”

No, of course not…

– Sharpie-gate
– missing and discarded ballots
– deceased voters

#24 Dolce Vita on 11.05.20 at 4:12 pm

Drum roll…

Europe Virus Porn (getting wonkier by the hour) – PART I

1. The UK has now changed its “7 Mate Rule” to the “Rule of Six” from Italia and also followed by BC (seems UK dining room seating size the same as that in Italia and it acolyte BC, who knew?).

2. Google [verb] “uk tier coronavirus system” and this Gov UK page link comes up where they are only too happy to explain, and explain, and explain…no wonder they are all so confused there:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november

Mercifully, The Guardian “dumbed it down” for Gov UK:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/15/tier-1-2-or-3-englands-three-stage-covid-lockdown-rules-explained

3. Italia, not to be outdone and better at color coordination and design than the UK will in its “soft lockdown” today, but now tomorrow*, uses 3 color tiers YELLOW, ORANGE and RED (no GREEN because we have been bad according to our asleep at the wheel all summer long did nothing in the meantime Gov Italia):

https://twitter.com/Palazzo_Chigi/status/1324102593061228544 (nifty if I do say so myself)

Interestingly, Lampedusa is in an Orange Zone which prompted Matteo Salvini to ask if Gov Italia plans to enforce that with all the “newcomers” arriving by rubber or wood dinghy (basically says you cannot move around or go to another region):

https://i.imgur.com/1vgXdV5.png
(Matteo wondering about Zone Orange Lampedusa enforcement)

https://i.imgur.com/YcoEjeF.png
(at least Gov Italia can fit all the color code restrictions on a single page vs. the UK’s “War and Peace” restrictions)

…to be continued (incl. Sweden MOOSE problems)

#25 Faron on 11.05.20 at 4:16 pm

#22 Investx on 11.05.20 at 4:02 pm

“groundless charges of electoral fraud”

– Sharpie-gate

https://twitter.com/SecretaryHobbs/status/1324074443740647425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

So, groundless.

– missing and discarded ballots

Groundless until you can show us confirming data or information. The instance of ballot burning was a hoax.

– deceased voters

Nope, whenever this “happens” the explanation has been crossed names or, in at least one case, a son who had the identical name and birthdate of his father.

#26 Stone on 11.05.20 at 4:16 pm

All hail glorious 46.

I imagine all the dumpster trumpsters in the peanut gallery are suffering from a very painful case of constipation right now.

Karma is so sweet!

#27 46 on 11.05.20 at 4:17 pm

No worries everyone. I’ve got this in the bag.

#28 calgary rip off on 11.05.20 at 4:19 pm

The first person writing said Calgary used to be where the jobs are. If a person gets up at 6 am like I do every day and drives to work, other than during the lockdown there is still too much traffic. There are the union workers picketing out in front of the hospital and the vacant office space, however housing costs and traffic don’t reflect any different reality. What isn’t seen is likely the many people struggling for basic necessities such as food while trying to pay for either overpriced rent and or mortgage. Oil is to blame for the rip off that Calgary remains. There were a chosen few who made big money off of oil and than likely squandered that money. This has happened at the personal and governmental level. Other than oil and beautiful scenery, the land isn’t worth much. What exactly other than hay grows well in Albertas climate? There are some things, Sea buckthorne, Goji berries, maybe corn, barley, lentils, not much else. These crops aren’t worth that much. Despite all the millions that farmers borrow they don’t get much respect and money back for their labour, time and risk they take.

You got that correct about apartment over a meth lab. Im surprised there isn’t two USAs. The middle of it and the coasts.

As a person from the USA I wouldn’t vote for Trump or Biden. I like the pro life for Republicans, don’t like Biden’s energy policies. And Trumps handling of Covid sucked.

There isn’t really any solution to the current worldwide fiasco. I think I will enjoy my hospital job while it lasts, weightlifting, cold showers, chess, heavy metal left handed guitar, Go game, and Christianity/Mormonism. Ive been social distancing since 1993 as that has always been popular in the Seattle/Bellevue area. Only now is the rest of the world learning this skill. Even so in Calgary people are still wasting time on lame social gatherings and parties. I prefer to stay in my own basement.

#29 NSNG on 11.05.20 at 4:21 pm

As long as the government is gridlocked the market could not be happier. There is nothing the market likes better than to tell the government to sit down, play amongst yourselves and be quiet.

Now the adults can get some work done. When the government’s hands are tied they can’t stick their incompetent fingers in everyone else’s pie.

If Biden does survive I hope the senate skewers him like the house did to Trump. There is much more tangible evidence on that side. Turn about and all…

#30 AM in MN on 11.05.20 at 4:25 pm

I expect Biden will eventually prevail, but not only the US but the larger western world loses whatever moral legitimacy it had over countries that don’t have free and fair elections.

Hard to lecture the Chinese (who are the real winners) about right and wrong after this. People on the right don’t do street protests or civil unrest, but they will change their views and their behavior in many ways going forward.

The corrupt urban core of so many cities has been laid bare (Milwaukee, Detroit, Philly, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Vegas…) and people who normally form the backbone of civil society will change their ways now that they see true extent of the corruption of the ruling class.

I do look forward to less moral preening to the non-democratic parts of the world, and less foreign wars now that there is zero internal support for them, and less young men from red states willing to sign up for them, but it’s hard to see how all the changes will be good.

Less civil society means more social division, so don’t expect the street protests to go away.

When the money printing party comes to an end, and the Chinese become more dominant in the technology sectors, there could be some unease that rivals the tea party election of 2010.

The ruling class cultural elites may find that their engineered “victory” could be phyrrhic.

#31 Michael Bruce Chase on 11.05.20 at 4:26 pm

Well I for one am shocked at the vitriol expressed here for the great work that President Trump has accomplished over the past 4 years in spite of all the road blocks thrown up at him by the whiny left wing losers in the democrapic party as well as the deep state. The swamp is truly deep and many people just can’t handle the removal of the trough. The american people have always been divided. Any check of the voting patterns of the last 70 years will reveal that nearly half vote one way and the other half vote the opposite way. In many instances the winner did not get the most votes. And so as it stands right now, we still don’t know the outcome of this election. I fear that if Biden wins then all the efforts to bring peace to the Middle East will slowly slip away. Europe will stop paying more money to protect themselves and Biden won’t care. Of course even with a Republican senate the population will end up paying more money to support the stupid green deal. It’s called green because all the eco terrorists and global elitists, those pushing the UN’s Agenda 2030 will rake in more and more profits from the carbon trading system and other associated green scams. While I fear for the american public, the socialist push of the democraps, I am equally fearful for Canadians as the left wing virtue signaling globalists in the fiberal party, backed by the gutless NDP slowly errode our liberties and rights as set out in the constitution. Freedom is never given, it is only taken. HEAVEN HELP US NOW>

#32 Ustabe on 11.05.20 at 4:28 pm

Now comes the question of what to do about Trumps Presidential Library.

My thoughts on the matter are it should be placed in the city of Corona, California. That will stick it to the libs, eh?

Oh, and also it needs to have a McDonald’s drive thru restaurant.

Probably won’t have to be too large either, I’d imagine there will be lots of shredding going on between now and January.

#33 Faron on 11.05.20 at 4:37 pm

#16 James on 11.05.20 at 3:34 pm

…move the goalpost when they see a loss coming.

Americans built the damn goalpost and probably invited you to the football game.

Gettin’ all jingoistic over here. Sheesh. I don’t even believe in american exceptionalism.

#34 Canadian Bob on 11.05.20 at 4:41 pm

Any opinions about Canada or just USA politics?

#35 Tua the Redeemer on 11.05.20 at 4:41 pm

#23 Investx on 11.05.20 at 4:02 pm
“groundless charges of electoral fraud”

No, of course not…

– Sharpie-gate
– missing and discarded ballots
– deceased voters

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Useful site for you to keep from embarrassing yourself:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/voting-machines-dont-read-ballots-filled-sharpies-/

#36 dltinc on 11.05.20 at 4:43 pm

I find it interesting in your analysis of the world situation that you did not give any mention at all to the environment and the millions of people, perhaps dominated by youngsters, who will be around long after we are all gone and see climate change as thee major crisis facing the world. And they seem to have the vast majority of the world’s scientists to back them up. So we, on this blog can direct our thoughts to housing and the stock market but we ignore the effect of those whose minds are concentrating upon what is happening to their world at our peril. You can say that people will always need oil and energy will always drive the world’s economy. This is probably true but when the shit hits the fan, it’s surprising how creative people can be, so I would suggest that we don’t under estimate renewable energy and possible changes we can make in our life styles to satisfy our needs. At the end if the day, it is movement that it the crucial factor, both in the creation of energy but also in how much we move ourselves as we go about our business. Does it really make sense that so many of us have to travel such great distances and at great speed and so often? Stand beside a busy highway some morning and watch the thousands of cars speed past and reflect upon how many gallons of gas is being burned on that highway day after day. Then multiply your calculated gas consumption by tens of thousands throughout the world and ask yourself if there isn’t a better way for human beings to organize themselves without destroying the environment. Measuring changes in the environment may make more sense than measuring the fluctuations in housing and stock markets.

#37 KLNR on 11.05.20 at 4:45 pm

trump being fed his ‘just desserts’ lol.
eat up piggie.

#38 Jay Currie on 11.05.20 at 4:45 pm

Without getting into the specifics of the alleged fraud, Trump has a perfect right to contest the count in various states. And the Supreme Court, based on the decisions in Bush v Gore is very likely to back him up.

It’s a mess. Frankly, I was hoping for a huuuuge Trump victory, but I would have been ok with a thumping Biden victory. Got neither. The booby prize of a month’s litigation and assorted extended counts, audits and recounts was not how I wanted to finish 2020.

#39 Brian Ripley on 11.05.20 at 4:45 pm

Now for something different:

Housing (Oct data) Vancouver vs Toronto:
http://www.chpc.biz/compare-toronto–vancouver.html

In October 2020

HIGHER PRICES
42% more for a SFD in VAN
25% more for a Town House in VAN
10% more for a Condo in VAN

1.4 more Listings in TOR than VAN
2.9 x more Sales in TOR than VAN
Monthly Absorption Rate TOR:VAN = 2.1

Ratio of SFD to Strata
1 VAN SFD = 1.8 VAN Town Houses
1 TOR SFD = 1.6 TOR Town Houses
1 VAN SFD = 2.5 VAN Condos
1 TOR SFD = 1.9 TOR Condos

10 Year SFD Inflation Rate:
​VAN = 115% and TOR = 116%

AUG 2020 Average Employment Earnings
BC = $56,898 /yr up 39% since MAR 2009 Crash
ON = $59,975 /yr up 40% since MAR 2009 Crash

#40 Trudeau’s Magic Money Machine on 11.05.20 at 4:56 pm

Don’t worry, I’ll just keep churning out the bucks.

#41 Masks really do make some people more attractive on 11.05.20 at 5:01 pm

How come Trump is only initiating lawsuits in states that he’s losing? If he is so worried about the integrity of the electoral process, wouldn’t that include all states?

And where is the GOP, Justice Dept, Bill Barr and the military-industrial complex, and why are they silent in the face of such despotic vote rigging?

Here’s the deal; only criminals named Trump and their batshit crazy supporters are protesting the results. That’s the deal.

President-elect Biden. Die mad, Trumpettes.

#42 Dolce Vita on 11.05.20 at 5:01 pm

Europe Virus Porn – Part II (not including the MOOSE problems, see Part III)

Prior Comment asterisk:

ITALIA “soft lockdown” postponed to tomorrow since ITALIANS ARE FURIOUS at their Gov. On the prior Comment Twitter link about the color coding animation, read the Comments to that Tweet.

4. ESPAÑA today record new cases, as usual, and blaming their Valencia football fans for having attended a match at San Siro with AC Milan early in the year also mentioning that Milan Fashion Week also to blame – ya, I saw a lot of Armani, Dolce & Gabbana, Versace, Gucci, etc. clad Spanish football fans on TV – they were very fashionable.

5. In the laying blame Department, DEUTSCHLAND taking the HIGH ROAD, blames pollution:

https://i.imgur.com/bWHEizF.png

Deutschland not to be outdone by the UK also have a very extensive list for their “soft lockdown” modelled on the Italian version (as short as Johann Wolfgang Goethe’s “Der Tragödie erster Teil”, Faust I & II for all you mangia cakes):

https://www.deutschland.de/en/news/german-federal-government-informs-about-the-corona-crisis

1st VIDEO on that page explains it. VIEW to the 10 second mark at what the German idea of “reduced physical and social contacts” looks like in Town and on the Beach.

In the I’VE REALLY LOST IT DEPT. Stern today, for God knows what reason, decided to Tweet about Merkel’s cleavage at some opera years ago:

https://i.imgur.com/8W0Owst.png

Told you so, WONKIER BY THE HOUR in Europe.

#43 not 1st on 11.05.20 at 5:05 pm

If you think Trump is going to lay down and concede like Gore did, you are sadly mistaken. He already has over dozen legal challenges underway including at the SC.

Any ballets not in the polling station at the end of the voting day are illegal and will be tossed. Any ballets not clearly postmarked or without signatures will be tossed. PA is about to have a few million votes invalidated.

Trump also controls the faithless elector majority. He continues on as president until the courts and these bodies render the decision. Far from over.

America can handle some more chaos until a fair result is arrived on because the viability of the nation is at stake here. Wall St can wait it out. They are the indicator of nothing but naked self interest.

#44 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 5:06 pm

Biden could end it all peaceably by announcing that he fully condones Trump’s request/demands for a re-examination and re-count of mail-in ballots in so…if it makes you/him feel better…we can all be convinced then with no doubt who the true winner is regardless of mail-in voters largely presumed to be democratic.
I’m sure somebody in his camp has thought this out…so why not?

#45 hwy_str on 11.05.20 at 5:10 pm

But what about the C-stuff?
Market may be optimistic about the new POTUS, expect candies for everyone, but the nasty bug does not seem to be willing to go away.
I walk along Robson in the Vancity, more and more doors are getting shut and windows barred. With so many businesses closing door (or about to do so) and valuations pumped so high, isn’t it a condition for a perfect storm that will pop the bubble? Fed will eventually stop buying assets.

#46 rknusa on 11.05.20 at 5:14 pm

re: Maybe 45 will surprise us, embrace peaceful transition for the greater good of the country, and slink back to NYC. Nah, me neither. But we can hope.

don’t think so

He is under criminal investigation

While President he feels he is immune from prosecution

could get ugly as he knows once out of the White House he could end up in the Big House

#47 Steerage Deplorables on 11.05.20 at 5:18 pm

#43 not 1st on 11.05.20 at 5:05 pm

If you think Trump is going to lay down and concede like Gore did, you are sadly mistaken. He already has over dozen legal challenges underway including at the SC.

Any ballets not in the polling station at the end of the voting day are illegal and will be tossed. Any ballets not clearly postmarked or without signatures will be tossed. PA is about to have a few million votes invalidated.

Trump also controls the faithless elector majority. He continues on as president until the courts and these bodies render the decision. Far from over.

America can handle some more chaos until a fair result is arrived on because the viability of the nation is at stake here. Wall St can wait it out. They are the indicator of nothing but naked self interest.
..

It’s ballot…….twinkle toes……….

#48 TurnerNation on 11.05.20 at 5:20 pm

If anyone doubt this game is over destruction of small business, livelihoods and forcing global poverty and dependence, and getting us used to State control and chaos (keeping us off balance and easily scared…)
Toronto is “re-opening” but wait Last call for alcohol is moved back from the new 10pm to 9pm!
Yes what science is at play here. Show us the studies, peoples’ respriatory heath improves when you kick them out of restaurants earlier.
I hope everyone know they are using pure magic and mind control here.
Now you ‘feel’ safer – while local businesses go broke.
Hey nobody said a UN global reset to communism would be fun. CERB up.

#49 Doug t on 11.05.20 at 5:20 pm

Kanye would have made a better president than the 2 mooks

#50 Barb on 11.05.20 at 5:23 pm

Gorgeous smart-looking dog #46 has at his feet.
What’d #45 have, a salamander, perhaps a gnat?

#51 jess on 11.05.20 at 5:25 pm

the fed chief is the one who is standing by and ready !

who needs this fur anyway
COPENHAGEN, Denmark — Denmark’s prime minister said Wednesday that the government wants to cull all 15 million minks in Danish farms to minimize the risk of them retransmitting COVID-19 to humans.

Mette Frederiksen said a report from a government agency that maps the coronavirus in Denmark has shown a mutation in the virus found in 12 people in the northern part of the country who got infected by minks. Health Minister Magnus Heunicke said half the 783 human COVID-19 cases in northern Denmark ”are related” to mink.

“It is very, very serious,” Frederiksen said. “Thus, the mutated virus in minks can have devastating consequences worldwide.

#52 -=with wings=- on 11.05.20 at 5:25 pm

Hilary lost by smaller margins than Trump is losing now. Zero lawsuits. Zero recounts. Trump simply isn’t woman enough to do the right thing and admit defeat.

#53 Faron on 11.05.20 at 5:25 pm

#30 AM in MN on 11.05.20 at 4:25 pm

…People on the right don’t do street protests or civil unrest…

Are you kidding me?

http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=trump+supporters+gather+polling

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/12/virginia-unite-the-right-rally-protest-violence

The right needs to stop with the gas-lighting.

#54 Bob in Hamilton on 11.05.20 at 5:29 pm

The dog in the photo looks smarter then Biden…..

#55 Ordinary Blog Dog on 11.05.20 at 5:30 pm

Wicked good Oracle of Lunenburg, wicked good! Love your clarity and insight, and so often correct. Don’t know how you do it – I am envious.

#56 Orange Man....Orange on 11.05.20 at 5:30 pm

I would expect Trump to hold everyone’s feet to the fire to ensure that the election was fair. He won’t go quietly into that good night, but nor will he burn the place down either. If SCOTUS tells him it’s over, he will respect that.

It makes no sense that he just appointed three SCOTUS justices who’re all sticklers for the rules and then will ignore them.

But make no mistake; he will force everyone else to live by the rules also. No one will get a free pass.

#57 AM in MN on 11.05.20 at 5:32 pm

#41 Masks really do make some people more attractive on 11.05.20 at 5:01 pm
How come Trump is only initiating lawsuits in states that he’s losing? If he is so worried about the integrity of the electoral process, wouldn’t that include all states?

And where is the GOP, Justice Dept, Bill Barr and the military-industrial complex, and why are they silent in the face of such despotic vote rigging?

Here’s the deal; only criminals named Trump and their batshit crazy supporters are protesting the results. That’s the deal.

President-elect Biden. Die mad, Trumpettes.

———————————————————–

You have no idea how the system works.

The fraud only occurs in states & cities where the corrupt Dem machine runs things from top to bottom, including election administration.

The scam works like this;

-there are thousands to millions of valid ballots out there that were mailed to people, even the 15%-20% of people who are dead or who have moved, but the Dems have blocked efforts to purge the voter lists because of “voter suppression”.

– when a state is close and the count isn’t going their way, the city shuts down the vote count early and kicks out all the election observers

– when they open up in the morning, there is a big boost for the Dem candidate…over 100,000 in Milwaukee alone. Philly is working on it still and so is Pittsburgh and Harry Reid’s machine in Vegas.

– once the ballot is deemed valid and separated by the envelope and thrown in the count pile, it can’t be traced. A recount does nothing once the stolen ballots are in the system.

It’s a well proven system. WI is showing 89% voter turnout….unheard of prior to this.

The feds and especially the military stay as far away as possible, this is a state responsibility. Nothing to be gained for them getting into the cesspool.

You may not like the Orange man, but you’re going to like living under the thumb of the Chinese even worse. Ask anyone from HK how it feels. Extrapolate it out 20+ years and see where the world stands. Once the legal and political systems become tainted with corruption and lose all moral authority, it’s hard to reverse, usually takes a war of some sort.

#58 Faron on 11.05.20 at 5:37 pm

#43 not 1st on 11.05.20 at 5:05 pm

Any ballets not in the polling station at the end of the voting day are illegal and will be tossed. Any ballets not clearly postmarked or without signatures will be tossed. PA is about to have a few million votes invalidated.

No! Ballets are best held in large theatres with sufficient stage room for the dancers to move. Polling stations are far too crowded.

He continues on as president until the courts and these bodies render the decision. Far from over.

Uh, no matter what his antics, he would continue to be president until noonish, January 20th I believe. Duh^1

America can handle some more chaos until a fair result is arrived on because the viability of the nation is at stake here.

So, it’s right that Trump is screaming for a faster and thorough count in AZ where mail in and pre-voting could bring him into the lead while crying to stop the count where he is/was ahead? If you can’t see this as partisan and insane, best of luck to you.

naked self interest.

Duh^2. Although I would say that the market operates to maximize return with information at hand and a splash of market sentiment. I’d much rather have a Garth working for me operating under those principles than emotion, fear, anger and all else that you bring here.

#59 Hurtin' Albertan on 11.05.20 at 5:44 pm

#10 Jay

“We have easy access to an abundance of beautiful, natural space (now with fewer parks and more coal mines)”

The writer is from Calgary. He’s referring to the UCP plans to delist/privatize parks and to allow strip mining of coal in formerly protected natural areas:

https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/ucp-moves-forward-with-plans-to-delist-alberta-parks-as-government-commits-43-million-to-improve-existing-sites

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/bringing-coal-back

https://thetyee.ca/News/2020/10/09/Australian-Invasion-Big-Coal-Plans-Alberta/

We need more parks and recreational areas, not open pit coal mines.

Can’t wait for the Alberta Wildrose Independence Party to split the right wing vote and for leftists, centrists and progressive conservatives to rally around the NDP, Alberta Party, or some some new centrist party, so that we can rid ourselves of this UCP clown show.

#60 Dolce Vita on 11.05.20 at 5:45 pm

Europe Virus Porn – Part III (now including the MOOSE problems and a very TRAGIC chart)

6. NB you are not the only ones with persistent MOOSE problems, Sweden again, @aftonbladet:

Polisen älgvarnar i centrum: ”Gå annan väg”

(Police moose warnings in the center: “Go another way” – a lot of moose traffic congestion in Stenungsund AND ON THE QT: A moose cow and a moose calf are located just behind Kristinedal’s school).

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Willkommen, Bienvenu, Welcome to my WONKY BY THE HOU, MINUTE Europa and poor Italia.

Even I will admit restrictions necessary here in Europe unlike Canada. Have a look at the COVID-19 Deaths chart today for the EU:

https://i.imgur.com/942zljc.png

EXPONENTIAL, no, make that VERTICAL. FRIGHTENING. If it keeps up like this. These numbers will soon overwhelm ICUs across the EU, already happening in some countries. A vaccine is needed OR

kiss goodby to the economies of the European G4 for quite some time.

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-Garth even if the US resolves itself QUICKLY, they print money like it’s going out of style, a vaccine and therapies abound (and it will take months for that to happen provided they work) I DO NOT SEE GDP rebounding here in Europe any time soon, maybe late 2021????

Still, HOPE springs eternal.

#61 Pathcontrolmonk on 11.05.20 at 5:49 pm

Biden, then Kamala until 2032. By then, the hillbilly boomers will be pushing walkers or pushing daisies and the AOC / Bernie bros will be in charge… be careful what you wish for.

#62 yorkville renter on 11.05.20 at 5:49 pm

I beg for boredom

#63 Rational on 11.05.20 at 5:55 pm

Even if you think Biden won, a reasonable person can’t look at all the evidence of voter fraud and not be bothered by it. Maybe Biden would have won anyway; but the shenanigans that went on are very concerning. Say what you want about Trump, but he was totally on the money when he called this type of thing out weeks ahead of the election.

#64 Apocalypse2020 on 11.05.20 at 5:55 pm

TRUMP WILL SPEAK AT 6:30!

DECLARATION OF CIVIL WAR!

PREPARE

#65 Joseph R. on 11.05.20 at 6:04 pm

#44 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 5:06 pm
Biden could end it all peaceably by announcing that he fully condones Trump’s request/demands for a re-examination and re-count of mail-in ballots in so…if it makes you/him feel better…we can all be convinced then with no doubt who the true winner is regardless of mail-in voters largely presumed to be democratic.
I’m sure somebody in his camp has thought this out…so why not?

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Beside his best wishes, Trump can’t stop the democratic process with court injunctions, neither can Biden.

Also, only the loser party can ask for a recount, and they have to pay for it.

Have you learnt about how elections back in Socials classes?

#66 KLNR on 11.05.20 at 6:07 pm

@#43 not 1st on 11.05.20 at 5:05 pm

Any ballets not in the polling station at the end of the voting day are illegal and will be tossed. Any ballets not clearly postmarked or without signatures will be tossed. PA is about to have a few million votes invalidated.

love me a good old polling station ballet lol.

#67 KLNR on 11.05.20 at 6:09 pm

@#31 Michael Bruce Chase on 11.05.20 at 4:26 pm
Well I for one am shocked at the vitriol expressed here for the great work that President Trump has accomplished over the past 4 years in spite of all the road blocks thrown up at him by the whiny left wing losers in the democrapic party as well as the deep state. The swamp is truly deep and many people just can’t handle the removal of the trough. The american people have always been divided. Any check of the voting patterns of the last 70 years will reveal that nearly half vote one way and the other half vote the opposite way. In many instances the winner did not get the most votes. And so as it stands right now, we still don’t know the outcome of this election. I fear that if Biden wins then all the efforts to bring peace to the Middle East will slowly slip away. Europe will stop paying more money to protect themselves and Biden won’t care. Of course even with a Republican senate the population will end up paying more money to support the stupid green deal. It’s called green because all the eco terrorists and global elitists, those pushing the UN’s Agenda 2030 will rake in more and more profits from the carbon trading system and other associated green scams. While I fear for the american public, the socialist push of the democraps, I am equally fearful for Canadians as the left wing virtue signaling globalists in the fiberal party, backed by the gutless NDP slowly errode our liberties and rights as set out in the constitution. Freedom is never given, it is only taken. HEAVEN HELP US NOW>

LMAO!!

#68 Vexatious Litigator on 11.05.20 at 6:10 pm

Wrong I’m not leaving. Why do you think I had that climb proof fence installed. You think I’m gonna turn the country over to that loser. He fostered a dog a dog and then kept it. Army Covid Barret (she’s a direct descendant of Typhoid Mary many people are saying) is going to fight those lib so called judges on my supreme court and overturn all of these illegal votes against me I mean us yeah yeah us. She knows the election has been very unfair to me. STOP THE COUNTING!!!!! It’s a democrat hoax, covid, the election, rusher rusher rusher 12 more years!!!

#69 Linda on 11.05.20 at 6:10 pm

Earlier today still no clear superiority via electoral college numbers. Yes, Biden is/was ahead of Trump, but far as I can tell Trump might still squeak through to a second term.

Robin Williams comment cracks me up. Here is hoping the meth lab doesn’t explode:)

#70 Felix on 11.05.20 at 6:11 pm

Look over Biden’s shoulders.

See who’s really in charge?

We always are.

No problem. Everything will be fine with him.

#71 Figmund Sreud on 11.05.20 at 6:11 pm

So, howcum?
___________________

Well, … investing-type of folks adopt the investing media tale that they like the best, regardless how silly that tale might just be.

For Stocks, Any Election Outcome is Now the Best Outcome, Disputed Election, Long Legal Mess, Split Government Without Stimulus, Whatever…

https://wolfstreet.com/2020/11/04/battle-of-the-narratives-for-stocks-any-election-outcome-is-now-an-ideal-outcome-even-a-disputed-election-long-legal-mess-split-government-without-stimulus-whatever/

Enjoy, … or not.

F.S. – Calgary, Alberta.

#72 Dolce Vita on 11.05.20 at 6:12 pm

Biden will be 46.

Even if Trump wins AK, PA, GA and NC his numbers add to:

268

Biden has 264 and if he holds NV at 6 electoral votes his numbers add to:

270

NV as of a few minutes ago, 76% in:

Biden 604,251
Trump 592,813

(gap has been widening over the past few hours)

and in 2008, 2012 NV was won by Obama and 2016 Clinton:

Clinton 539,260
Trump 512,058
Johnson 37,384 (Libertarian)

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Why Trump wants a recount in WI, 10 electoral votes, 99% in:

Biden 1,630,542
Trump 1,610,007

2008, 2012 Obama, 2016 Trump:

Trump 1,405,284
Clinton 1,382,536

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Trump wins if something miraculous happens in NV or if the WI recount goes in his favour, the latter unlikely, the former a possibility – slim.

46 = Biden.

#73 Steven Rowlandson on 11.05.20 at 6:13 pm

Garth I finally set up a tax free savings account and purchased a TD Comfort Balanced Growth Portfolio mutual fund as the asset within the savings account.
I put $69500 from my inheritance to work in the mutual fund. The shares in the fund were worth 17.78 on Monday and $18.17 as of yesterday. Not sure of the numbers on Tuesday but I expect I’ll find out in the near future. The average earnings of the fund from inception are 6.91% Better than a chequing account.
One year GICs suck! 1% PA.
If there is the possibility of share splits in the mutual fund that would be a real boon.

#74 sue on 11.05.20 at 6:14 pm

I think there are going to be a lot surprises yet. Fun fact: A recount involves a legal certification of every ballot. Whistleblowers from USPS have a lot to say about being told to postmark “Nov 3rd” even though it was 4am Non 4th. #themoreyouknow Pop some popcorn, this show is getting better and better.

#75 belly rubs on 11.05.20 at 6:15 pm

“Camo underwear too, likely.”

….

That was under the belt.

Belly rubs flies commando.

#76 whiplash on 11.05.20 at 6:16 pm

#50 Barb
Gorgeous smart-looking dog #46 has at his feet.
What’d #45 have, a salamander, perhaps a gnat?

Your right, good looking dog but while Joe was playing with Rover, Trump was at work looking after the interests of federal employee pension funds. Both he and Sen Rubio from Florida(no wonder he took Florida) were successful in convincing the pension fund managers of federal employees not to invest $50 Billion into mainland China companies. You see Barb, these companies are subservient to the CCP in fact of the list currently at the PCAOB dozens of these companies are wholly owned by the communist. When it comes to disclosure of finances the CCP always comes up with the same line- national security and are not subject to third party audits. If I recall Trump’s logo is Make America Great Again not Make Communist China Great!

#77 S.Bby on 11.05.20 at 6:25 pm

It’s not over until the fat lady sings.

#78 Vexatious Litigator on 11.05.20 at 6:27 pm

We will be filing a lawsuit in the supreme court tonight against the electoral college. People don’t know this but they don’t even teach any courses, what a fraud. Extremely unfair to your favorite president.

#79 Stone on 11.05.20 at 6:29 pm

#50 Barb on 11.05.20 at 5:23 pm
Gorgeous smart-looking dog #46 has at his feet.
What’d #45 have, a salamander, perhaps a gnat?

———

A tapeworm.

Obviously!

#80 AGuyInVancouver on 11.05.20 at 6:30 pm

#31 Michael Bruce Chase on 11.05.20 at 4:26 pm
Well I for one am shocked at the vitriol expressed here for the great work that President Trump has accomplished over the past 4 years in spite of all the road blocks thrown up at him by the whiny left wing losers in the democrapic party as well as the deep state
_ _ _
Blah , blah blah.

Now go listen to the nice lady in the white uniform and take your pills.

#81 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 6:34 pm

My wife is fed up with the whole Biden Trump picture as are many of her friends, wouldn’t vote for either. She wants to get the hell out of Detroit for good forever our hometown (S Ferndale/Hazel Park) and move to Canada.
Its always been expensive but now its a nightmare I tell her. She doesn’t care we can afford it. This all came up recently when a couple of her friends decided to check out the North. We have a cottage in Ontario, now they are watching to see what comes available. Won’t happen now…impossible. By the time restrictions are lifted i’m thinking they will have forgotten about it all by then.
Ontario RE prices where they are now…safe bet they will.

#82 Faron on 11.05.20 at 6:35 pm

#54 whiplash on 11.05.20 at 6:16 pm

…not to invest $50 Billion into mainland China companies…

Objectively, this is a huge, emotional fail based in the continual fear of the communist bogeyman. Chinese A shares are viewed by many analysts as way under bought and ripe for explosion higher given the potential size of the pool of retirement money that Chinese citizens sit on. The market is tens of trillions $US with that again currently on the sidelines. $50 billion is a tiny drop in that market and if purchases were made through ETFs they would be invisible or at least inseparable from the larger pool. China wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater for a mere $50 billion to spite the US. I bet the fund managers were pissed when the gov’t decided to meddle here.

#83 binky barnes on 11.05.20 at 6:39 pm

All of this animosity and uncertainty in the USA has given me a thought. Why can’t we (Canada) simply ‘lend’ our PM, Mr. Justin Trudeau, to our southern neighbour for a year.

I bet that within twelve months Mr. Trudeau would have that country straightened out. His ‘sunny ways’ approach would bring Republicans & Democrats together I am certain. And he could use his smarts to help them solve many of their social and economic problems. He would that.

With his able hands on the wheel the USA would once again be that ‘bright shining light on the hill’. My only fear is that they would not want to give Mr. Trudeau back after the twelve months, so that is something we would have to get in writing.

I know it probably can’t happen (Garth you would know–has one country ever ‘lent’ its leader to another to help it out?) but the idea is worth considering isn’t it?

BB

#84 Long-Time Lurker on 11.05.20 at 6:41 pm

>Just injecting some sanity in here.

Evening Standard
NHS ‘getting better’ at treating Covid-19 patients in hospital with death rate down by half since first wave
Ross Lydall

The NHS is getting substantially better at preventing people from dying from Covid-19, one of the UK’s leading scientists said today.

Professor Peter Horby, of Oxford university, who is heading the UK’s world-leading Recovery trial of several potential new treatments, said it was “really fantastic news” that the death rate in hospitalised patients had fallen by half since the first wave of the pandemic.

Asked how effective the NHS was at treating Covid-19 patients, he told MPs on the Commons science committee: “What we have seen is that, though it’s early days, it would appear that the case fatality rate in hospitalised patients has come down quite a lot.

“At the moment it’s looking like the case fatality rate is about 15 per cent in hospitalised patients, having come down from about 30 per cent in wave one, so it’s really a big difference. We have to be a bit cautious as that may pick up a bit.”….

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/nhs-e2-80-98getting-better-at-treating-covid-19-patients-in-hospital-with-death-rate-down-by-half-since-first-wave/ar-BB1aGfJv

#85 Dolce Vita on 11.05.20 at 6:42 pm

About the only thing I have found annoying during the US Election night is Nate Silver the FiveThirtyEight pollster, revered Stats God by ABC.

This is the same guy whose outfit 538 forecast the following electoral seats:

Biden 348
Trump 190

as of Nov. 1.

Same guy that said Hillary had a 70% probability of winning the election in 2016.

I wouldn’t trust that guy to organize a piss up in a brewery, he’d find a way to screw that up too.

Here is a good piece of BS by ABC on the subject and of course, guess who’s doing the explaining:

“Were 2020 election polls wrong? FiveThirtyEight’s Nate Silver explains how to interpret polling”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2020-election-polls-wrong-fivethirtyeights-nate-silver-explains/story?id=74038650

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US Pollsters are biased BS’ers trying to influence the minds of voters with their lies.

I’m a Lefty and even I switched the channel each time Silver was asked by his groupie acolyte teen crushing George Stephanopoulos for stats and advice.

Like dumb and dumber.

#86 belly rubs on 11.05.20 at 6:46 pm

I expect the PMO to fully endorse/mimic/duplicate any new regulatory agenda that may sprout from a Biden admin. Canada is very good at aping global causes. We so want to be liked. The goal will be to eliminate risk and protect the people, therefore justifying overreach.

#87 Faron on 11.05.20 at 6:47 pm

#71 Figmund Sreud on 11.05.20 at 6:11 pm

So, howcum?
___________________

Well, … investing-type of folks adopt the investing media tale that they like the best, regardless how silly that tale might just be.

Yep and the market lost it’s narrative (that being “tech is the future, WFH forever, The recovery is here and now, electric cars R cool, retail leads, buy calls”) in the September correction and hasn’t found another one. Each try fails. We’ll see how this next try works out.

My guess is that it won’t find one it can stick with until it’s clear the virus is dropping again perhaps to zero this time. Expect value, industrials, energy, financials to all rip when that happens. Maybe some recreational travel too. There’s is a huge amount of catch-up to be done in these sectors. And Europe is way behind but will probably come out of the lockdowns sooner. Underweight NASDAQ in favour of the above. You can stay diversified in regions and most asset classes and do this.

#88 Ace Goodheart on 11.05.20 at 6:47 pm

Re: #20 an investor on 11.05.20 at 3:58 pm

The democrats are now radical left and Biden has compromised the US government. You better believe that American Patriots will fight back against the corruption to steal this election. Watch out.

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Just watching videos of “American Patriots” getting arrested for misdemeanor “block traffic” violations, as they “march” for the right to shut down democracy and install their chosen strong man.

Donald and his fervent supporters do not seem to understand how elections work.

Is there any evidence, anywhere, that the US’s election system, which is known world wide as being one of the best (if not the best) is now suddenly so beset with fraud and vote rigging that it is no longer reliable?

And the solution is? Just allow Trump to stay in office? Forever? Why have another election, when we know that the system doesn’t work? We might as well just install the Trump family as permanent, hereditary leaders of the USA, to protect the American people from the terrible, unreliable democratic system.

Seriously, think about what Trump supporters are claiming. The US election system is broken, rigged, unreliable, cannot be used to decide the results of an election.

Where are they getting this from? When has this ever happened?

The USA has one of the best democratic election systems in the entire world.

#89 BlogDog123 on 11.05.20 at 6:53 pm

Listening to Trump live:
– Big media, big money, distorting the polls trying to “suppress” my voters…
– Democrats running apparatus in states for voting
– Illegal late ballots
– Observers not allowed
– They wait and wait and find votes for Democrats, all of the sudden find the mail-in ballots

His ego is bruised as he sees the vote slipping away from him…

#90 Diamond Dog on 11.05.20 at 7:03 pm

If I may wade in here, a chunk of your thesis Garth, rests on a Republican controlled senate. This may not come to pass. Firstly, if we look at the senate elections results map:

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/senate

What we will see is Dems and Reps tied at 47 each. The most likely outcome is Collins takes Maine, Tillis takes North Carolina and Sullivan takes Alaska, while Kelly takes Arizona for a 48/50 Dem to Rep split but wait! What about Georgia? Georgia looks certain to have two senate seats go to a runoff there:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/politics/georgia-senate-jon-ossoff-david-perdue-kelly-loeffler-raphael-warnock/index.html

Biden might still win Georgia by a squeaker, suggesting the political landscape has changed. A Biden win matters as Trump’s stumping for Georgia Senate seats may be gone with it. Going blue in the presidency suggests these Georgia senate seats will be competitive in a state with high turnout. There will be much greater scrutiny of all 4 candidates as January approaches. This won’t be good for (R) Perdue who ducked his last debate and has had controversy following his investing in HMO’s with insider information among other issues like being the current 8th leading state per capita with Rona, :

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/perdue-cancel-final-debate-ossoff-trump-campaign-georgia-rally

Ossoff interviews reveal a steady candidate that is polished beyond his young years where as Perdue has taken on baggage in his last term. We think Georgia comes down to 2 50/50 coin tosses leaving 25% odds for a 50/50 senate (VP breaks the tie) but this is politics and anything can happen (including a predicted worsening pandemic). If the Dems can frame this election on ethics and character (worked for Biden) or simply change (end of gridlock), Georgia could surprise. Senate runoffs take place on Jan 5th.

https://heavy.com/news/georgia-senate-runoff-races-what-now/

#91 The Totally Unbiased, Highly Intelligent, Rational Observer on 11.05.20 at 7:05 pm

If you take out the automatic 8% bias built into all the fake polls, that puts President Trump and the other guy, Joe Who, about even. If you also toss out all the fake, fraudulent ballots, that puts President Trump well ahead.

So, this certainly looks like four more years of President Donald J. Trump in the White House continuing to work hard, day and night, with his vastly superior intelligence, to Make America Great Again (MAGA) and to Keep America Great (KAG). He will do this so beautifully and seemingly effortlessly in spite of any and all opposition from all the same forces of darkness and evil that opposed him relentlessly over the past four years. There ought to be a picture of President Trump in the dictionary under persistent and another one under brave and another one under resilient and another one under stable genius and so on and so on.

Sadly, this could be the start of having to listen to Garth yammer on for the next four years or more about how President Trump did not actually win, and is not really the real president, and about how Joe Who and the Demonrats actually won, even though President Trump will be in the White House running the show for the next four years or more. (It will sort of be like listening for ten years to someone talk about how real estate prices will go down even while they actually go up for that same ten year period.) Some people live in their own little fantasy world and simply have a lot of trouble accepting reality. Therefore, we can expect to hear for the next four years or more about how President Trump is not really the real president even though he will continue to be the president in all reality for the next four years or more.

#92 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 7:06 pm

#65 Joseph
“only the loser party can ask for a recount”
……………………………………………………………………………………………………
You seem to have missed the point i was making…Trump would never make such an offer. If Biden were to condone a recount (never-mind who the loser or winner is going to be) such a show of good sportsmanship prior to the outcome would keep the pot from boiling over now and afterwards.

#93 KLNR on 11.05.20 at 7:08 pm

Brutal concession speech from trump just now

#94 earthboundmisfit on 11.05.20 at 7:09 pm

@34 Canadian Bob
Any opinions about Canada or just USA politics?

A deceased candidate won for the GOP in North Dakota. Not a stretch to imagine that happening for the PCs in Orangeville ON.

#95 Purrfect on 11.05.20 at 7:10 pm

Garth,
After hearing Trump tonight you are no longer allowed to use the word pathetic. Trump solely owns the word.

#96 Chris Thownson on 11.05.20 at 7:16 pm

DELETED

#97 Nonplused on 11.05.20 at 7:17 pm

“And a president who is mercifully, thankfully, gratefully, finally a total bore.”

As of right now, Trump still has a mathematical chance of winning. There are still a number of states that have not reported final numbers and we are going off network projections, which I trust more than the pre-election polls but they are not official. And there are still 5 states that haven’t reported enough results for even the networks to make projections.

WI and MI will no doubt be recounted due to the large number of Biden votes that mysteriously appeared overnight after they had stopped reporting and went to catch some shuteye.

AZ will likely be recounted due to the sharpie pen controversy. (Sharpies were handed out at some polling stations but the vote counting machines rejected those ballots as “spoiled”.)

So it is still too early to call the election “until every ballot is counted” as Biden himself said. Still things look a lot better for Biden right now than for Trump. Everything that hasn’t been counted has to be counted for Trump if he is to win.

But this is a network’s dream. Usually they can only milk the election up until the 4th and then they have to get back to manufacturing other news. This year they could get another 2 months out of it for free.

And if Trump does squeak through, it’ll be as if the networks had struck gold. There will be riots, er, mostly peaceful protests I mean, to cover every night and so much material to pontificate over. On the other hand if Biden wins conclusively then the news cycle will get a lot more boring. The networks will miss Trump. If nothing else he has been a ratings dogsend.

#98 Just keep counting the votes ...... on 11.05.20 at 7:19 pm

my B&D portfolio loves it … probably beating the 604 housing market right now … and you don’t even have to live there … available to all.

#99 Apocalypse2020 on 11.05.20 at 7:20 pm

Oh, no.

Trump just declared he’s willing to take the country down with him if he needs to.

His supporters with guns in the streets agree.

He has executive power and his finger on the nuclear trigger for at least two months.

Get away from all US locations. Stay away from the border. Consolidate liquid assets. Stock up.

Global catastrophe has begun.

PREPARE

#100 theoryAndPractice on 11.05.20 at 7:27 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/arts/television/late-night-election-results.html

…If your election lasts longer than 48 hours, seek medical advice… :)

#101 Reality is stark on 11.05.20 at 7:27 pm

First shot’s been fired.
Ford has given the municipalities the go ahead to raise property taxes as high as homeowners can stand.
Time to pay the piper.
As I have said for years $10,000 a year for your average bungalow in the GTA will be the norm.
Be careful how much house you buy as the chickens are coming home to roost.
And your good friend Biden won’t rest until our oil sands production is down by 75%.

#102 Dave Sanford on 11.05.20 at 7:32 pm

Just in my own opinion, Canada is toast. You better learn to speak Chinese because you will all be under China’s communist rule.

Please go away. The blog’s IQ just took a hit. – Garth

#103 Reynolds753 on 11.05.20 at 7:32 pm

There does seem to be an inordinate number of Trump lovers today. This “voter fraud” is nothing more than a Trump attempt to not give up gracefully. As a Canadian residing in United States for over thirty years I will say that Trump is the absolute worst, disastrous president that the this country has ever had to endure. Most people that I know will be relieved when this nightmare is over and Trump is gone.

#104 Nonplused on 11.05.20 at 7:32 pm

#35 Tua the Redeemer on 11.05.20 at 4:41 pm
#23 Investx on 11.05.20 at 4:02 pm
“groundless charges of electoral fraud”

No, of course not…

– Sharpie-gate
– missing and discarded ballots
– deceased voters

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Useful site for you to keep from embarrassing yourself:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/voting-machines-dont-read-ballots-filled-sharpies-/

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You believe something on Politifact? In any case it will be straightened out because if the machines were rejecting the sharpies then all they have to do is manually count them so it will be sorted out.

#105 H D Knucklehead on 11.05.20 at 7:33 pm

Trump…you’re fired!

#106 Nonplused on 11.05.20 at 7:40 pm

#41 Masks really do make some people more attractive on 11.05.20 at 5:01 pm
How come Trump is only initiating lawsuits in states that he’s losing? If he is so worried about the integrity of the electoral process, wouldn’t that include all states?

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Only the loser can initiate a recount, so it is up to Biden to initiate recounts in any of the states Trump won. Which trust me if Trump squeaks through he will do.

I think it is safe to say at this point no matter who is declared the winner the loser will demand recounts. That’s what happens when election results are not clear. Hillary never demanded any recounts but that’s because there would have been no amount of recounting that could have changed the election results. Had it been this close she would have.

There are some things in life that you just have to sort of expect. That’s why they have video replay. There will be contested goals.

#107 Faron on 11.05.20 at 7:48 pm

Just tuned in to Trump’s statement. I can’t believe what I just watched. He just made McCarthyism look like a grade school gossip session. Outright insanity -> dictatorship and there’s no sign of the more sober in his party standing up to him. This is appalling.

#108 n1tro on 11.05.20 at 7:57 pm

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-follows-who-and-u-s-in-acknowledging-aerosol-transmission-of-coronavirus-1.5176109

Covid-19 airborne as suspected months earlier. Explains why it is so easily transmitted.

So much for your masks saving you. 3 layered masks would have been needed. Even if you had a 3 layered mask, you would have needed to pull the mask over your eyeballs!

“According to the new guidance, the droplets and aerosols can infect a person by being inhaled or by otherwise coming into contact with the mouth, nose or eyes.”

#109 Joseph R. on 11.05.20 at 7:57 pm

#92 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 7:06 pm
#65 Joseph
“only the loser party can ask for a recount”
……………………………………………………………………………………………………
You seem to have missed the point i was making…Trump would never make such an offer. If Biden were to condone a recount (never-mind who the loser or winner is going to be) such a show of good sportsmanship prior to the outcome would keep the pot from boiling over now and afterwards.

———————————————————-

You are asking Biden to join Trump in insulting and humiliating, through the process of a recount, the State of Pennsylvania because his Orangeness is having a temper tantrum?

Do you believe that would demonstrate “good sportsmanship” from Biden?

You are kidding, right?

#110 Vexatious Litigator on 11.05.20 at 7:59 pm

I don’t know Garth, that diatribe the mango menace just spewed was a call to action from what is an unbelievably large portion of the American population. His imbecile sons have been stirring it up also, to say nothing of drunk Rudy, Bondi, Schlapp, Grenell and every other parasite to ever crawl from under a rock dispatched to stand in front of the media on street corners and hock the insanity. They really could start something no one can control. When you think that he actually increased his support after people watched the last over four plus years, including the campaign, it’s frightening. I know people here on our side of the border that are held in high esteem that have bought into Trump’s carnival act and think he’s doing a great job. Challenge them and they respond with vapid stupidity, these are people with multiple degrees.

This barking mad clown could send the whole world into turmoil. He really isn’t that different from some of those we regard as the worst of our world that caused horrendous damage in the past. His enablers still do nothing to curtail him. The secret service should tranquilize him, put him in a straitjacket and let him wake up in a padded room. Even I don’t think any of it’s funny anymore.

#111 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.05.20 at 8:01 pm

@#85 Dolce
” his groupie acolyte teen crushing George Stephanopoulos …”

+++++

Ah yes , “hipster” George StumbleOffTheBus.
A legend in his (and Toronto’s) own mind.
His dreadful talk show would have been yanked after 1/2 a season in the US but the CBC kept pumping oxygen into it for way past its due date.

#112 Faron on 11.05.20 at 8:04 pm

#105 Nonplused on 11.05.20 at 7:40 pm
#41 Masks really do make some people more attractive on 11.05.20 at 5:01 pm

How come Trump is only initiating lawsuits…

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Only the loser can initiate a recount…

Friend, a recount does not require litigation and falls under guidelines laid out in each state. MRDMSPMA was asking about lawsuits.

There will be recounts in GA triggered by the narrow margin and will be at no cost to a campaign. There may be one in PA. Any candidate can ask for a recount on margins up to 1% (depends on the state) if they pay. The Green party candidate asked for a recount in WI in 2016 to try to boost Hillary. No dice. Hillary was savvy enough to know that and concede.

Trumps lawsuits are attempting to halt the count and leave ballots uncounted. This is akin the the hanging chad debacle in FL in 2000, but on a much more grand and devious scale.

Maybe do a bit more research before you post your tomes here dude or stick to Calgary/Alta/CDN politics.

#113 chopstix on 11.05.20 at 8:04 pm

my gawd the blog’s gone crazy with such animosity from both sides (and yes I hate McDonald Trump…king clown!).
…Garth with all the noise and vitriole lately (no doubt will only get worse going forward) don’t you sometimes just want to pull the plug on this (hope you don’t but you know what I mean)…keep well.

#114 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.05.20 at 8:09 pm

I believe I made a prediction several months ago that if Trump lost he would be a boorish, sore loser.

The scary version.
He doesn’t care if people die as long as he gets what he wants.
So if his baseless, slanderous rhetoric whips his supporters into a frenzy and people get hurt or killed……..and he’s proven wrong…..

Will he be liable for criminal charges after he’s out of office and a private citizen again?
Will the Secret Service have to protect him in prison?
Or will they just build him his own prison like Pablo Escobar?

#115 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.05.20 at 8:12 pm

@#99 Apocalypse2020
“Global catastrophe has begun.

PREPARE”
+++
All your fantasy’s are coming true.
You did remember to stock up on Vaseline and Kleenex right…?

#116 Albertistan on 11.05.20 at 8:25 pm

Biden supporters may have a few guns, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles all voted in Democratic Mayors.
Agreed, no pickups or camo.

#117 TRON on 11.05.20 at 8:28 pm

I’m not seeing a good future for equities market, may a handfull of stocks do well but the rest are going to fall slowing as quarter after quarter earnings reveals just how damaged the economy is. Also, debt is a little over extended to the point of disaster coming.

Republicans did well in this election despite Trump not winning…maybe. Canada much different story. We are pooched. 2021 will be the year the government rapes the wealthy and tortures everyone else with taxes.

#118 reynolds531 on 11.05.20 at 8:29 pm

Owning guns doesn’t mean you’re a right wing whack job. I own eight, shoot a couple times a week.

Never threatened anybody, and I’d hear anyone out on their political views. I suspect the vast majority of people even trump voters who own guns are perfectly reasonable people. Who would never pick up a gun in anger.

#119 Drinking on 11.05.20 at 8:29 pm

Dem’s will not control congress, Trump needed an ego adjustment, all is good!

#120 the Jaguar on 11.05.20 at 8:30 pm

I recognize that dog. His name is Major. Adopted rescue. Who’s the mutt with him?

Meanwhile, back at the ranch this was announced today : ‘Alberta shattered another COVID-19 record on Thursday, recording “about 800” new cases over the past 24 hours and people may soon be faced with new public health measures to get the numbers under control, says the province’s top doctor.’

Mercy. Good thing the Jaguar got a flu shot last week, inherited a few Viking genes, and keeps a bottle of Wild Turkey hidden in the clothes hamper in case of emergencies or other catastrophic events that might occur in real life or my imagination.

I figure the way to get through the calamitous times we are living through is to keep a positive outlook, treat your body and mind like a temple, and practice compassion and generosity for others, especially the vulnerable. Especially with the holiday season approaching and hard times ahead. Above all – try to be brave.

I guess I’ll do a little laundry while we all await the election results and other news of the day….

#121 whiplash on 11.05.20 at 8:30 pm

#82 Faron
..not to invest $50 Billion in to mainland China companies..

$50 Billion in the big picture is coffee money but to invest pension money in companies that or will not file audited financial statements to the US Security and Exchange commission and actually be in compliance with US law and professional accounting standards is a no brainer. CCP wants to play in our sandbox they follow our rules. Trump/Rubio called this one!

#122 Drinking on 11.05.20 at 8:34 pm

#99 Apocalypse2020

lol, I must say that you have been entertaining like those astrology quirks that ask $5 a minute to read your future!

#123 Masks really do make some people more attractive on 11.05.20 at 8:34 pm

#105 Nonplused on 11.05.20 at 7:40 pm
#41 Masks really do make some people more attractive on 11.05.20 at 5:01 pm
How come Trump is only initiating lawsuits in states that he’s losing? If he is so worried about the integrity of the electoral process, wouldn’t that include all states?

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Only the loser can initiate a recount, so it is up to Biden to initiate recounts in any of the states Trump won. Which trust me if Trump squeaks through he will do.

I think it is safe to say at this point no matter who is declared the winner the loser will demand recounts. That’s what happens when election results are not clear. Hillary never demanded any recounts but that’s because there would have been no amount of recounting that could have changed the election results. Had it been this close she would have.

There are some things in life that you just have to sort of expect. That’s why they have video replay. There will be contested goals.

//////////

The Mango Menace isn’t asking for a recount. He suing to stop or selectively alter the ballot counting process, depending on the state.

He can’t afford recounts; Team Trump has already withdrawn a recount request in WI due to the $3 mil cost. The money is gone, grifted by Stepien, Parscale, et al.

He’s spewing delusional lies on MSM, fomenting violence, and trying to sow cancer in the American body politic.

Just watch his narcissistic melt-down; he’s just getting warmed up.

25th Amendment is in da house.

#124 Dominoes Lining Up on 11.05.20 at 8:43 pm

And another guy – Doug Ford – gets little attention today, but should.

In today’s budget the Ontario government just threw some candy at businesses and taxpayers with free money here and there, and a massive debt.

Cities must now reduce their business property taxes. But the budget gives no extra money to cities, who cannot run deficits., to cover for this.

Expect an unpleasant combination of large residential property tax increases and/or municipal employee layoffs and service cuts in the weeks ahead. There’s no other way around this.

This may also stick a knife in the strangely booming property markets.

#125 -=withwings=- on 11.05.20 at 8:46 pm

@97 non plussed

So much junk in this post. Start with Sharpies are the PREFERRED method to vote in Maricopa, that’s why they had all the polling stations stocked with them…and recounts have never moved the needle…just so much stupid here.

#126 Apocalypse2020 on 11.05.20 at 8:47 pm

#109 Vexatious Litigator

“They really could start something no one can control….

This barking mad clown could send the whole world into turmoil. He really isn’t that different from some of those we regard as the worst of our world that caused horrendous damage in the past.”

Exactly. Not if, but when.

Before January 20 is a certainty.

PREPARE

#127 Charity on 11.05.20 at 8:49 pm

Garth can you get rid of Apocalypse 2020?

Like they need to clean out the shite in the WH you mr president of the post please clean out this section of its shite as well? Asking for a friend:)

#misssmokey
#banapocalypse2020

M50AB

#128 KLNR on 11.05.20 at 8:50 pm

@#112 chopstix on 11.05.20 at 8:04 pm
my gawd the blog’s gone crazy with such animosity from both sides (and yes I hate McDonald Trump…king clown!).
…Garth with all the noise and vitriole lately (no doubt will only get worse going forward) don’t you sometimes just want to pull the plug on this (hope you don’t but you know what I mean)…keep well.

you new here?
been like this since day one.

#129 zoey on 11.05.20 at 8:55 pm

The U.S markets will spin anything into a positive, how else will they keep the stock market up … All governments and central bankers do now including Canada is prop prop prop. Will be interesting to watch it all fall apart.

#130 DON on 11.05.20 at 9:00 pm

110 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.05.20 at 8:01 pm
@#85 Dolce
” his groupie acolyte teen crushing George Stephanopoulos …”

+++++

Ah yes , “hipster” George StumbleOffTheBus.
A legend in his (and Toronto’s) own mind.
His dreadful talk show would have been yanked after 1/2 a season in the US but the CBC kept pumping oxygen into it for way past its due date.

*********

He had the right voice…but that was about it!

It was painful listening to his analysis.

#131 Flop... on 11.05.20 at 9:02 pm

If only I could think of a valid reason why it is taking them longer to count the so far 635,000 votes in Democrat friendly Philadelphia County, as, say, opposed to the 22,000 votes they had to count in Republican friendly Huntingdon County in Pennsylvania.

Hundreds of thousands more votes to count, but I can’t quite put my finger on why it would take longer.

Hmmm….real stumper…

Sure they’ll sort it out in court…

M46BC

#132 Phylis on 11.05.20 at 9:03 pm

#77 S.Bby on 11.05.20 at 6:25 pm
It’s not over until the fat lady sings.

——
I’m warming up ;)

#133 SoggyShorts on 11.05.20 at 9:09 pm

#107 n1tro on 11.05.20 at 7:57 pm
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-follows-who-and-u-s-in-acknowledging-aerosol-transmission-of-coronavirus-1.5176109

Covid-19 airborne as suspected months earlier. Explains why it is so easily transmitted.

So much for your masks saving you. 3 layered masks would have been needed. Even if you had a 3 layered mask, you would have needed to pull the mask over your eyeballs!

“According to the new guidance, the droplets and aerosols can infect a person by being inhaled or by otherwise coming into contact with the mouth, nose or eyes.”
**************************
Please tell me this doesn’t surprise you?

Everyone has said for about half a year that wearing a mask reduces the crap coming out of your mouth, at least more than wearing nothing.

No one has ever even implied that wearing a mask keeps you safe while walking through a sneeze cloud, but simple physics always showed that if the sneezer has his face covered the cloud is smaller.

How is it news that 3 layers is better than 1?

#134 n1tro on 11.05.20 at 9:37 pm

#132 SoggyShorts on 11.05.20 at 9:09 pm

It is not surprising. The premise of making everyone wear masks is on the assumption that they are infected and the masks prevent you spreading it. The merits of this thinking has been hotly debated.

The difference here is that while we were told to wear masks (without any real guidelines) to save others, the acknowledgement of covid being airborne means we were all exposed anyways.

Airborne particles whether they are viruses or fart particles, penetrate even N95 masks while your eyeballs are going commando. I guess my point is, given this “new” revelation, isnt it better to force infected people to wear the 3 layered masks and quarantined while the rest of us have the option? I’m thinking this new narrative will be the prevailing group think since the elections are over.

#135 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.05.20 at 9:44 pm

Cullen Commission Money Laundering testimony episode #375

BC Gaming Enforcement Head of the Task force Officer Fred Pinnock called enforcement a “charade”.
He quit after 3 years of frustration in 2007
In 2009 he asked his girlfriend who was in the Liberal govt in power.
He asked to meet with the Govt Minister in charge of Gaming….Rich Coleman
Her response, after she met with Coleman, was,
“Coleman was dismissive and uttered expletives….it was embarrassing.”

He then when to another Minister ( and former police officer) Kash Heed, and told him about the lack of interest in enforcement of money laundering at the casinos.

Kash Heed agreed with Pinnock and said “They knew what was going on. Rich Coleman knew what was going on”

When Global tv asked Kash Heed today for a comment he said he couldnt say anything until he was called as a witness at the commission.
Rich Coleman( former Minister and former police man) also responded that he would save his comments for the commission inquiry……

#136 DON on 11.05.20 at 9:45 pm

Nonplused, I agree with your latest assessment TrumpVsBiden and more importantly the state of the US media. How can they get it so wrong and over and over and over again. The media needs to clean up their bias and report facts not opinions. A renewal is an understatement.

Folks, for the last 2 elections the choices have been 3rd rate on many levels…maybe even lower. Meanwhile, the international news is all about increasing tensions and military drills in and around the south china seas. The US may get that unifying distraction at some point. China is now the new villian for a generation.

As for the pollsters…they have some explaining to do. If comrade Biden gets the head job…nothing will really change. A slow spiral to idiocracy in the West.

The chain of events on election night warrants a look, if only to ensure the integrity of the voting system.

I am just glad we have more choices than just blue and red. Americans should demand that. And Canadians should demand an elected senate with teeth and a seperate way to elect Canada’s leader…rather than an autocrat that expects party loyalty rather than loyalty to constituents.

For *#^@! sakes. The US had a petulant child vs. an ineffective idiot running against eachother for the last two elections. A good percentage of Americans do not trust their institutions.

#137 Mr Canada on 11.05.20 at 9:48 pm

Now that Trump will be gone, can we Canadians start to focus our attention on getting rid of our disaster PM in Ottawa ??

#138 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.05.20 at 9:50 pm

@#109 Vexatious
” The secret service should tranquilize him, put him in a straitjacket and let him wake up in a padded room.”

+++
…aint gonna happen….What Secret Service agent would volunteer to change his diaper?

#139 Ponzius Pilatus on 11.05.20 at 9:51 pm

#133 n1tro on 11.05.20 at 9:37 pm
#132 SoggyShorts on 11.05.20 at 9:09 pm

It is not surprising. The premise of making everyone wear masks is on the assumption that they are infected and the masks prevent you spreading it. The merits of this thinking has been hotly debated.

The difference here is that while we were told to wear masks (without any real guidelines) to save others, the acknowledgement of covid being airborne means we were all exposed anyways.

Airborne particles whether they are viruses or fart particles, penetrate even N95 masks while your eyeballs are going commando. I guess my point is, given this “new” revelation, isnt it better to force infected people to wear the 3 layered masks and quarantined while the rest of us have the option? I’m thinking this new narrative will be the prevailing group think since the elections are over.
———–
The Prez is done.
Fauci is back in charge.
He says: Wear the damned mask!

#140 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.05.20 at 10:01 pm

@#77 SBby
“It’s not over until the fat lady sings.

——

Trump’s transgender?

#141 Glengarry Girl on 11.05.20 at 10:05 pm

After everything we have witnessed from Don the Con, it is still hard to fathom that so many people still believe his BS. It is literally sad and pathetic that some actually take seriously his claims that this election is anything but fair and legal. It is beyond concerning that you would look at his crack pot lawyer Rudi Guiliani and believe that he can successfully litigate his way out of his hand in his pants. They have LOST, it is obvious, to sane people, in a fair and legal election. Here is a clip of Donald Trumps Spiritual Advisor, paid to be in the White House, praying against the Demonic opposition trying to Steal the election. If you can watch this and think anything other than she is in need of a psychiatric evaluation, you are deluded. This administration has been a clown show. Can’t wait for some sense of normalcy and sanity…this is just plain scary that so many people believe in this man https://youtu.be/I4daeEacIVI

#142 NotATrumpHater on 11.05.20 at 10:07 pm

I’ve been trying to make sense of what is going on in the society and which side will be less worse for me an my family.
First, I felt more supportive to the Democrats. Not that I knew much about either of the two, but this party had a narrative that felt safer and more in line with what respectable organizations like UN, OSCE, IMF and WorldBank would advocate for.
I started to feel the other way when reading about real world cases where above organizations did not seem to genuinely do things that are best for humanity, but rather have their own agendas.
Ok, but that’s not a reason to go republican as this party had presidents starting wars and doing all sort of other things that didn’t seem to help the humanity neither.
Disappointed in both, my mind started to look at who’s less bad, rather than who’s best. I also try to set emotions aside and focus on the facts that I see.
With the current candidates, my observations are the following:
1. Trump can be rude, but if one listens, he’s views are not as bad as being described by his opponents. In my attempt to determine what is bad about him, I’ve heard the following:
-> accusations that he is being racist have been described to me, but were backed up by Trump’s statements denouncing the looting. I don’t consider looting to be a good thing and neither denouncing it appears like a proof of racism to me.
-> accusations that he wants to kill everyone. The virus has not shown preferences of blue vs red, killing people from both sides, so I don’t see how this accusation can be backed up. This accusation is usually thrown in the context of Trump being hesitant regarding the lockdowns, but he explained his position about this: ‘the cure cannot be worse than the disease’. That seems sensible to me. I also felt a certain hypocrisy in democratic supporters advocating for lockdowns on one end and then crowding in the streets during protests.
-> accusations of systemic racism. Which of Trump’s decisions were meant to create that? My current understanding is that systemic racism did exist in the US and was mostly eradicated in the ’60-’70 with the movement of Martin Luther King. There were killings recently where the victims were minorities. A killing is never a good thing, but watching the video, it did seem like the victims behaved in a way that made the police officers feel unsafe. Was there a better way to handle these kinds of situations? Most likely yes, but this does not appear like a sign of systemic racism, but rather poor training in using non-lethal weapons by some police departments.
2. Biden – cannot say many bad things about him, he seems ok to me, but he appears to be making different statements showing signs of senility. For example, there is a video of him stating that he has prepared the biggest voting fraud in history. I don’t think that’s what he meant, but it definitely shows that his best years are behind. Another one is the video apparently showing him putting pressure on Ukrainian authorities. That smells a like corruption or obstruction of justice to me. Again, it’s not clear to me whether the video has been taken out of context, but there is certainly hubris in the way he talks about the Ukrainian side in that video and that is a red flag in itself for my perception.

Again, I would like to lean towards the democratic side, but I need facts that are a bit deeper than ‘because he’s a clown’.
Can anyone help me with that?

#143 Old Ron on 11.05.20 at 10:10 pm

Trump’s presidency taught me about the fragility of democracy.

Both parties must now try to understand how 69 million people became so angry, alienated, and reactionary.

Going forward the GOP must now try to harness these votes in 2024 without reaping the whirlwind once again.

The Dems should be asking themselves how they lost these white, blue collar voters over the last 4 decades. The party no longer knows who these folks are.

Perhaps they could have a meeting with JonTester the senior Senator from Montana. A Democrat in a very Conservative state. He gets it. He sports a $10 brush cut, and doesn’t mind getting cow s*** on his boots.

#144 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 10:14 pm

Joseph…

Biden could have told Trump he would have no issue with (Trump) triggering a re-count if he (Biden) wins to settle the Trump supporters and Trump down a little before the results are tallied.
Let Trump know in advance of the tallied results he’s (Biden) hiding nothing that he knows of contrary to Trump and Trump supporters suspicions by condoning a ballot re-examination and recount by all means if Trump (looses) & so deems it to be necessary later.
To keep the peace now and later…nothing more nothing less.

#145 SlowDecay on 11.05.20 at 10:16 pm

Hey, a question for steerage:

What if Trump’s right and there really is some funny business going on with the mail in ballots?

Would you want to know?

I mean, in terms of instinct, even if you hate Trump, you have to admin he’s not often wrong with things like this.

So why not let in more monitors, agree to recounts and don’t appeal the rulings that have allowed the republicans to move to with 6′ and not 25′ to observe the counts. They just want to observe, right?

A lack of any evidence isn’t proof of innocence any more than it is of guilt. Let in the light.

And it’s not about counting every vote or making every vote count. That’s a slight-of-hand, a pivot.

It’s about confirming that the ballots sent in are real and authentic (not for deceased voters, cause remember that’s been a thing). Pausing the counting to confirm, that’s all.

As for not demanding recounts in states where Trump won, and using this as a claim of hypocrisy, well of course: Trump victories are pretty unlikely to be states that the democrats would have tampered with.

The unexpected Biden victories, however, after an unexplained pause on election night, with only the mail in ballots statistically altering the race? It might make sense to double check those states, no?

Besides, if you’re so sure there’s been no election tampering (a phrase that exists because from the beginning of time high stakes elections have been tampered with. Just saying…) why not support the process so your team can be proven innocent beyond any doubt?

Or, is your resistance due to sensing, as many do, that the sudden pivot in the election on election night-when Trump was projected to win 292 seats by the CBC ffs, could actually be due to tampering?

#146 Lefty on 11.05.20 at 10:40 pm

Gore took 37 days to concede.. I say Trump makes it ’till Christmas.

#147 drydock on 11.05.20 at 10:49 pm

Stressing over masks?
Instead use a plastic bag over the head sealed around the neck with duct tape.
It’s the only way to be sure.
Your welcome.

#148 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 10:58 pm

#85 Dolce Vita
“I wouldn’t trust that guy to organize a piss up in a brewery”
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Funny line…it reminded me of a couple of old friends one whose uncle owned a small distillery where they both worked as security guards. They too couldn’t organize a piss up in a brewery…they’d be passed out before the party got started, but they sure could conduct a horror show in a distillery complete with puking moaning and dying sounds without special effects or any sound enhancing equipment.

#149 slick on 11.05.20 at 11:06 pm

As soon as Biden is declared the winner, I hope canada deports that meng back to china, and we get our 2 Michaels back.

#150 morrey on 11.05.20 at 11:13 pm

chew this over:

How capitalism is destroying democracy

‘Authoritarian capitalism is where the U.S. is heading,’ says Yale historian

#151 Ned Clear on 11.05.20 at 11:23 pm

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#152 Barb on 11.05.20 at 11:26 pm

#113 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.05.20 at 8:09 pm

I believe I made a prediction several months ago that if Trump lost he would be a boorish, sore loser.
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Bill Maher beat you to it.

#153 VanIsle Retiree on 11.05.20 at 11:26 pm

Can we expect one of Trump’s law and order lectures now that it is his supporters who are causing problems in several US cities?

#154 tom black on 11.05.20 at 11:34 pm

Any truth in the rumour of a ballot audit? watermarked ballots in play from 2018!

If it turns out to be true and the Democrats have millions of fake ballots returned it might spell the end of the party as we know it.. Let alone another 4 years of Trump

Can you speak to this Garth?

Tom Black

#155 Yuus bin Haad on 11.05.20 at 11:43 pm

Nope, I checked back and just like in 2016, one needs 270 or more Electoral College votes to have any possibility of being elected President

#156 Uncle Charlie on 11.06.20 at 12:04 am

Here’s my take, for what it’s worth.

I’m not a fan of Biden. I actually like Trump, mainly because he has the balls to take on the entire global establishment. Yes, he says some ridiculous things for sure, and I don’t agree with all of his policies.

Having said that ….

Biden has won this election.

Trump needs to accept defeat and not look as pathetic as the dems did after not accepting he defeated Hillary in 2016 (without the Russians, which has been laid to rest by 2+ years of investigations). Time to take the higher road and accept that his plan to kybosh globalism didn’t work. That’s the reason he ran, but I don’t think he realized what he was really up against. Big lesson learned.

I’ve spent a lot of time in the US. Especially NYC and LA. My brother lived there for over 25 years (now he’s in the south) and he’s a Trump supporter. My cousins in LA are big Biden supporters. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as far as I’m concerned.

In my case, I see things from more down the middle. I agree with some policies of the left and some of the right. Let the chips fall where they may.

If the Republicans retain the senate they’ll still have the power to c&ckblock some of the far left policies of the dems. It’s not the end of the world as we know it. Time to get on with life. We still have COVID to deal with.

#157 Coho on 11.06.20 at 12:22 am

It’s not surprising that it’s “Indecision 2020”. Democrats did all they could to oust T from office since the day he got in. You think the outcome of this election would be left solely up to the people? No way.

Both parties play dirty with the vote counts. Anyone saying these elections are completely above board are either ignorant or deliberately misleading people.

Any weird stuff…computer glitches, plumbing leaks, power outages…anything of “strange coincidence”, found ballots either in ditches or appearing after the fact at voting stations is a pointer there are shenanigans in play.

This is no longer politics as usual, bad as it was. People need to realize this. This is war. And guess who is the target? It’s not T or B or those occupying the halls of power. It is the people. It’s a war for control. A war for our minds. An assault on free societies. And most importantly, an assault on our spirit and spirituality.

#158 SeeB on 11.06.20 at 12:32 am

#133 n1tro on 11.05.20 at 9:37 pm

#132 SoggyShorts on 11.05.20 at 9:09 pm

It is not surprising. The premise of making everyone wear masks is on the assumption that they are infected and the masks prevent you spreading it. The merits of this thinking has been hotly debated.

The difference here is that while we were told to wear masks (without any real guidelines) to save others, the acknowledgement of covid being airborne means we were all exposed anyways.

Airborne particles whether they are viruses or fart particles, penetrate even N95 masks while your eyeballs are going commando. I guess my point is, given this “new” revelation, isnt it better to force infected people to wear the 3 layered masks and quarantined while the rest of us have the option? I’m thinking this new narrative will be the prevailing group think since the elections are over.

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Knowing when you are virulent, but not symptomatic, isn’t always clear. True, some people have a minor reaction to the virus, and others get messed up. I know you feel it will have little affect on you, and that’s OK. But you may come into contact, or leave droplets behind you, around people who are not so strong or resistant. They still need to buy groceries too.

It sucks, and I don’t like it much either, but wearing a mask is a very easy thing to do in public to limit the spread. I’d be embarrassed trying to explain to my Grandmother that lived through rationing in WW2 England that I don’t want to wear a mask cause it’s “hot and itchy”.

#159 Faron on 11.06.20 at 12:41 am

#133 n1tro on 11.05.20 at 9:37 pm
#132 SoggyShorts on 11.05.20 at 9:09 pm

isnt it better to force infected people to wear the 3 layered masks and quarantined

Seriously?! You are already asked to quarantine if you are infected! C’mon man.

Recall that there are a large portion of asymptomatic people or mildly symptomatic people who can infect, sneeze and the whole works, but who may not know they have the bug. Thus, everyone should assume they have it to stop the possibility of spread. Why are you so hell bent on getting around masks?

And if you are worried about COVID-eye, feel free to wear goggles.

#160 BlorgDorg on 11.06.20 at 1:56 am

Don’t get too excited about the recent rally. Taking, for example, VBAL as a reasonable proxy for a 60/40 balanced portfolio, today it closed at 27.47. Its last peak on February 20 before all this madness started was … 27.47.

So by staying invested for the past 8 months you’re exactly nowhere — except now we have an insane amount of new liquidity, unprecedented government debt, the biggest recession in decades, and a rampant virus ravaging consumption and inflated input costs that’s primed to get worse as winter takes hold.

Not exactly a recipe for sustained upside.

#161 SoggyShorts on 11.06.20 at 1:59 am

#133 n1tro on 11.05.20 at 9:37 pm
#132 SoggyShorts on 11.05.20 at 9:09 pm

It is not surprising. The premise of making everyone wear masks is on the assumption that they are infected and the masks prevent you spreading it. The merits of this thinking has been hotly debated.

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There should be no debate.
Either the masks help a little, a lot, or not at all. So why not hedge our bets and have everyone wear them?

All of the weak-ass anti talking points like “people touch their faces more in a mask”, or “people get a false sense of security” are bunk– I mean it’s so simple: just don’t touch your face/mask, and don’t be a close talker.

I think the whole response has been mishandled, but if everyone would just STFU and stop doing activities that promote the spread we could move on.
If a 3rd world country like Vietnam can beat this there’s no valid excuse for our results.

#162 Nonplused on 11.06.20 at 2:14 am

#111 Faron on 11.05.20 at 8:04 pm

It is unclear to me whether Trump meant he wanted a halt to accepting new votes or counting. Of course a halt to counting would be ridiculous and I don’t think any court would side with the president if that was his true position.

The fact that recounts are possible in all states under certain conditions means that there are no hard limits as to how long the counting can go on. But postmarked Nov. 3rd is the limit to when ballots can be accepted. I suppose there is a practical limit on how long the counting can go on because eventually they have to move on.

But if there are voting irregularities, that’s when the courts are asked to get involved. Will Trump have sufficient evidence to do that? Well, my favorite new conspiracy theory is that since Trump has been talking about voter fraud for some time, he has as commander in chief tasked the FBI/CIA/Homeland security with monitoring for just that. He may know something we don’t. The idea that there is no person or organization in the US or indeed the world that would ever consider voter fraud goes against everything we know about human nature. Every other fraud or other crime conceivable has been tried multiple times beyond counting.

In fact I would suggest the total number of crimes and misdemeanors that occured in the US just this year might be as big as the Biden/Trump split in the popular vote (not that the popular vote matters one iota).

So he could be talking out of his arse. Or he could also have knowledge that he has a case.

Remember, the dems said they weren’t going to “let him win” or “concede” “no matter what”. What does that mean? You never heard that from the Trump camp. Instead you heard “fraud” which isn’t a totally unreasonable interpretation of “no matter what”.

And then Biden went on to gaff that the democrats had “the best voter fraud organization ever”. Of course he meant “the best voter fraud prevention organization ever” but the old man is prone to his gaffs.

Everyone who has ever played sports as a child knows that the other side cheats. There would be no rules without the ref. Even in baseball, which is one of the hardest team sports to cheat at, they have to deal with spit balls and loaded bats. And steroids at the professional level. People cheat. It has to be accepted as human nature.

And thanks for the dig at the end. Ad hominem attacks are alway a sign of defeat.

#163 Faron on 11.06.20 at 2:20 am

#166 whiplash on 11.05.20 at 1:47 pm
#162 Faron
#136 calgary rip off
#151 whiplash

Thx for the heads up, shouldn’t be a problem with Vitamin A smoothie is a small handful, spinach, kale, 3-4 oz. carrot juice with unsweetened almond milk/plant based protein. Will keep an eye on the D3.

Good deal. Yum, sounds like a good smoothie. I’ve been into spinach, banana, almond milk and peanut butter lately. Maybe some cocoa on occasion. Delish.

If you are getting your vitamins from real foods especially veggies, there’s no problem unless you eat a LOT of carrot juice. Select mammals concentrate vit A in their livers, so caution if you eat offal.

#164 Nonplused on 11.06.20 at 2:31 am

#124 -=withwings=- on 11.05.20 at 8:46 pm
@97 non plussed

So much junk in this post. Start with Sharpies are the PREFERRED method to vote in Maricopa, that’s why they had all the polling stations stocked with them…and recounts have never moved the needle…just so much stupid here.

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Didn’t I say in a later post it would be a non-issue because if the machines didn’t do it right they would just recount them manually? Maybe you had logged off.

The concerns some voters had is that the sharpies soaked through the paper so you could see the markings from the back. What’s the problem with that? Well, the counting machine spends more time deciding whether the ballot is legit than it does tabulating the vote. Just try printing out a fake $20 bill and inserting it in a VLT sometime. Fractions of a second no doubt but people cannot understand computer time. And the scanners do check the back of the ballot or $20 bill as well.

But in any case I wholeheartedly agree the sharpies will not be an issue even if they have to recount those ballots by hand. Slows things down though…

#165 Retired BTC Investor on 11.06.20 at 2:39 am

Wow! Trump will finally drain the swamp, at the last minute.

‘President Trump Setup Democrats In “Sting Operation” To Catch Them Stealing Election!’

Homeland Security marked Mail-in ballots with Quantum File System Encrypted Blockchain information.

USPS filed patent in August;
http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat20200258338.pdf

#166 Sherri on 11.06.20 at 3:31 am

Where are all the “upstanding ” Republicans? Why are they so silent when Trump lies and incites violence.? They should be repudiating him. They work FOR the people and they should be ashamed.

#167 Always on the move on 11.06.20 at 3:43 am

“It’s over”? Not even close. People I talk to are working out how to design an algo that will allow Federal Marshalls to spot check counties where last minutes “mystery ballots” have shown up. Boxes of ballots without a single Trump vote are raising eyebrows.

It’s likely the Marshalls will want to verify who singed ballots from entire blocks of seniors residences that some say never arrived. “Over”? In your dreams. Democrats may regret demanding “every vote be counted”.

New Flash….and I think on a more serious note. CNA Singapore ( a news org with a reputation for honesty) is reported that another much deadlier bacterial agent called ‘ Brucellosis’ has escaped from a provincial research lab and has already killed 6000 and is spreading fast. 8 lab workers have ” disappeared”.

Keep up your absolute isolation from travellers from effected regions. Trudeau can’t make the same mistakes he’s made with Covid. Brucellosis is a fast ranging killer and China is panicking according to news reports.

#168 drydock on 11.06.20 at 5:25 am

#83 binky barnes on 11.05.20 at 6:39 pm

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Well doggonit binky, you’ve hit the nail on the head.
Loaning Mr. Trudeau to the USA to sunnywayify their predicament is nothing short of genius.
Why, he’ll surly get the Nobel Peace Prize for his steady as you go keen eyed manliness at the wheel of state and share it with you.
Garth would know.
Garth, can Mr. Trudeau share the Nobel Peace Prize with binky?

#169 justdeleteitifyoudontlikeit on 11.06.20 at 6:06 am

…closing time and the barflies can’t tell the difference between George Stephanopoulos and George Stroumboulopoulos.

Trump rages in West Wing, networks cut him off? Wowsers.

Some predictions:
There won’t be any recounts in states where one candidate has a 150,000 vote lead. Stop even suggesting it — it just makes you look stupid.

No, Nikki Haley won’t be the Republican candidate in 2024. America may be ready for an ethnic woman candidate, but the Republican party isn’t. She’d place third or worse in Iowa and New Hampshire, and then she wouldn’t be able to raise any money. Too bad, so sad, let’s revisit in a decade or so.

There’s going to be a huge crowd for Biden’s swearing in. Not because he’s magnetic, but people will want to finally see the back of Trump. It’ll drive him nuts.

Rudy Giuliani, what the hell happened to you?

Watching right wing heads explode all week on twitter has been remarkably enjoyable. James Woods disappoints, but Scott Adams more than makes up for it. A vice, I know.
– but how can Trump be losing?
– that’s what the polls predicted!
– but we were lying to the pollsters!
What a country, folks…

My hat’s off to anyone dumb enough to publicly suggest that Democrats are stealing the election for Biden, but are too addled to steal any of the down ballot races at the same time. It’s not a good look, but you be you.

#170 Paul B on 11.06.20 at 6:12 am

My guess is that Trump’s case in court will be based on the insecurity of the mail-in ballot process and the potential for fraud, and not on evidence of actual fraud (although they may find some limited evidence of fraud like ballot harvesting, etc). If he can prove that the process itself is insecure, then he can argue that the mail-in ballots should be excluded. That is why he used the term “count every legal vote”, by which I think he means is every vote done at the voting booth – which is much more secure given that observers from all parties can see what happens with the ballot.

#171 slick on 11.06.20 at 6:12 am

Quote of the day;
These democratic run states are going to keep counting votes until Biden wins.

It’s over. Your guy is 4 million votes behind. What a disgrace Trump was last night. – Garth

#172 justdeleteitifyoudontlikeit on 11.06.20 at 7:35 am

#141 NotATrumpHater — “Again, I would like to lean towards the democratic side, but I need facts that are a bit deeper than ‘because he’s a clown’. Can anyone help me with that?”

Well, look at some objective facts. First, Trump’s cabinet. Regardless of whether you think it is the A team or the B team, there’s been remarkable turnover — two secretaries each of State, Defense (plus a third whose nomination was withdrawn), two attorneys general… Five nominations withdrawn in all, because they likely wouldn’t have been confirmed by a Republican controlled senate. Remarkable. Four chiefs of staff (and numerous deputies), four National Security Advisors, six White House Press Secretaries, the list just goes on and on and on. Trump’s running of the executive branch has been chaotic.

I would add that his chief doctor in charge of the fight against the pandemic is a radiologist. 350 million people and many of the best medical research establishments in the world, and he can’t find a virologist, an epidemiologist, SOMEBODY besides an X-Ray doc?

Now, let’s talk about indictments. A quick search reveals about a dozen Trump associates indicted or convicted of crimes including fraud, witness tampering, perjury, and money laundering. I get that as a businessman and a politician, you know a lot of people, and maybe one or two of them are involved in criminal acts you’re unaware of. But above a certain number, I’d say you run with a bad crowd.

In conclusion, Trump promised us he’d hire “the best people,” but he didn’t deliver. The guy could tweet crap all day for all I care if he’d hired competent people to run the country for him, and the public.

#173 justdeleteitifyoudontlikeit on 11.06.20 at 8:05 am

“If he can prove that the process itself is insecure, then he can argue that the mail-in ballots should be excluded.”

All 64 million of them, or only the ones in states where he’s losing? Only Kavanaugh would agree to that, and he’d be outvoted.

#174 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.06.20 at 8:52 am

@#168 justdeleteit
“closing time and the barflies can’t tell the difference between George Stephanopoulos and George Stroumboulopoulos.”

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Its all Greek to me

#175 Squire on 11.06.20 at 8:58 am

#22 Biden Ballots on 11.05.20 at 4:02 pm
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Give it a rest. Everybody knows the majority of mail-in ballots were from Democratic supporters. I feel sorry for anyone swallowing Trump’s lies about widespread voter fraud. Your guy is losing. Suck it up. – Garth

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Of course the mail-in ballots were from Democrats. But also from dead folks and stolen ballots.
I think the main worry is that Biden is just a shell and will soon be removed for being unfit to govern allowing Harris to step in. She’s not popular so we may be in for on-going volatility over the next 4 years. Clinton years seem pretty normal compared to now.

Swallow disinformation and you soon lose your grip on reality. If there was any evidence of systemic fraud, we’d know about it. There isn’t. Most Americans wanted Biden or, more precisely, an end to Trump. They got it. Biden will be fully in control for his term, and is a centrist. – Garth

#176 Dharma Bum on 11.06.20 at 9:14 am

#17 Smartalox

Better still would be an island offshore, within the protection of a State that doesn’t share an extradition treaty with the United States.
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Or, he can retreat to “Epstein Island”, where he keeps a room.

#177 Dharma Bum on 11.06.20 at 9:19 am

#28 Calgary Rip Off

I think I will enjoy my hospital job while it lasts, weightlifting, cold showers, chess, heavy metal left handed guitar, Go game, and Christianity/Mormonism.
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Are you serious?

Or did you plagiarize that description of yourself from the FBI’s serial killer profile handbook?

#178 Dharma Bum on 11.06.20 at 9:25 am

#49 Doug T

Kanye would have made a better president than the 2 mooks.
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MOOKS!

I love it!

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vw8t4O9JQM

#179 Dharma Bum on 11.06.20 at 9:32 am

JOE for President!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcMHH405Ig

#180 Dharma Bum on 11.06.20 at 9:49 am

#171 justdeleteitifyoudontlikeit

I would add that his chief doctor in charge of the fight against the pandemic is a radiologist. 350 million people and many of the best medical research establishments in the world, and he can’t find a virologist, an epidemiologist, SOMEBODY besides an X-Ray doc?
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Radiologists have the most in depth knowledge of all physicians because they need to know about all aspects of medicine and physiology in detail. Radiologists are the “go-to” doctors for all other doctors. No specialists proceed with serious treatments or surgeries or final diagnoses until after consulting with a radiologist.

Your assessment of the doctor in question is misguided.

https://cmescience.com/reasons-why-radiology-is-so-crucial-to-medical-care/

https://hospitalnews.com/understanding-the-role-and-importance-of-radiologists-in-canada/#:~:text=Radiologists%20interpret%20medical%20images%2C%20advise,follow%2Dup%2C%20if%20necessary.&text=A%20growing%20area%20in%20this%20field%20is%20interventional%20radiology%20(IR).

#181 Glengarry Girl on 11.06.20 at 9:52 am

#141 Help me to understand why Trump is not as dangerous as Biden

If you haven’t figured that out with all of your research by now, there isn’t much anyone on this Blog can do to help you out with this, but let me give it a try. Trump has successfully organized a Cult like following that has brought the War to their own Streets. Donald Trump challenging the election results and his insane rantings are the dog whistle to start the Violence. Steve Bannon from his bugged out Bunker is the weird General who this morning was banned from twitter for calling for the beheading of Fauci and the head of the FBI. The Religious Right wing lunatics are talking in tongues and invoking God to strike down their opponents. Over 60 Million People think that Donald Trump should get a second term. The rest of the Story is yet to be determined. We will be soon be seeing how many of these Nut Jobs will rise up against Democracy. My prediction is that you and Millions of others will hang your head in Shame for ever believing in Don the Con.

#182 Joseph R. on 11.06.20 at 10:31 am

#143 willworkforpickles on 11.05.20 at 10:14 pm
Joseph…

Biden could have told Trump he would have no issue with (Trump) triggering a re-count if he (Biden) wins to settle the Trump supporters and Trump down a little before the results are tallied.
Let Trump know in advance of the tallied results he’s (Biden) hiding nothing that he knows of contrary to Trump and Trump supporters suspicions by condoning a ballot re-examination and recount by all means if Trump (looses) & so deems it to be necessary later.
To keep the peace now and later…nothing more nothing less.

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I see no point in arguing with you; your mind is already made-up.

Trump and his supporters are responsible for their own pet conspiracy beliefs and behaviour; not Biden, not the MSM nor anyone .

If Trump and his supporters want to fight their own shadows, it’s not the duty of Americans to help them in their useless endeavour.

Just point and laugh.

#183 Faron on 11.06.20 at 11:36 am

I request that you all consider this thread closed out of respect for Garth. There will be ample opportunities to resume discussion at a later date. If I am out of line here Garth, please signal.

#184 willworkforpickles on 11.06.20 at 11:37 am

#181 Joseph R
You do appear to have some kind of reading comprehension problem…and I am done with you.

#185 RobinJW on 11.06.20 at 12:12 pm

“Canada’s location is the equivalent of a really nice apartment over a meth lab.” – The analogy isn’t complete until you divulge that the tenants are addicted to meth and pay their rent using proceeds from meth sales.

#186 justdeleteitifyoudontlikeit on 11.06.20 at 12:24 pm

#179 Dharma Bum — “Your assessment of the doctor in question is misguided.”

It would appear that a lot of his colleagues and of experts in infectious disease think he’s a bonehead:
https://twitter.com/RoxanaDaneshjou/status/1303904515607855104

I defer to their expertise. Frankly, my assessment of him up until now has been based on not much evidence, viz:
– opining on a field outside his specialty on Fox News, making him a likely self-promoting four flusher
– being hired by Trump, making him a likely sycophant
– He’s been on the job for three months, things haven’t been going well

I now also discover that he’s a litigious sonofabitch, threatening to sue the aforementioned docs and profs for malicious defamation. And he’s a fellow at the Hoover Institution, a factory for terrible public policy.

I’ve nothing but respect for radiology as a profession, but you have to admit that, to the lay public, demoting your epidemiologists and virologists in favour of a radiologist you saw on TV and agreed with would not instil confidence. Even if his colleagues thought he knew what was doing, which they don’t.

#187 bullwinkle on 11.06.20 at 3:27 pm

Trump has a legitimate right to challenge the ballots in any state. Biden has the same right if any state were to flip against him.
This will most likely end up at the Supreme Court. It won’t be an ideological decision for them to make. They will decide if blocks of ballots are valid, based on the voting rules. Because it is not ideological, there shouldn’t be any reason that they don’t come in with a 9-0 verdict, either way. If they come in with a 5-4 verdict, either way, I believe that will show that the U.S. Supreme Court has succumbed to street politics and is no longer independent.

#188 AGuyInVancouver on 11.06.20 at 7:35 pm

How could anyone commenting on this blog have even remotely trusted or believed Trump when it is common knowledge he is the first President in many years not to have a dog (or any pet) at the White House. He’s too full of himself to care for something else.

#189 Jeff in Vic on 11.06.20 at 10:16 pm

RIP I have had two dogs and 4 cats in my life. I was the youngest in my family so I had a dog and a cat that grew up with me. When I was 15, I lost a dog that was 16 years old and a cat 18 years old.

#190 Farina on 11.07.20 at 1:46 am

Bandit broke my
In 2 decades your blog touched deeply.