Losers

Like some of you, my name’s been on a few ballots. I’ve won and lost. The experiences were thrilling and crushing. The journey from citizen to an elected politician is, in my experience, long, harrowing, expensive and fraught with danger. Once as a candidate I spent an entire year canvassing a riding, every day knocking on doors to meet whatever lurked within. There were 26,000 of them. I ground through two perfectly good pair of cowboy boots.

Increasingly, people are just appointed to be candidates by parties who want a certain demographic. Being a gnarly privileged white male, this was never my experience. For me it was always a street fight – brawling for a nomination, then in a general election, then to retain my seat.

Of course, winning the most votes is just the start. Then there are the politics of a caucus and a party to navigate. Newly elected people may think they go to the legislature to represent the voters, but leaders have a different idea. Parties and those in charge of them expect blind fealty. Every caucus member must think the same way, vote as instructed and speak when permitted. It is a muzzle that chafes. At least for me.

Thus, I sucked at being an MP. My nine years in the House of Commons (two bouts of insanity, 13 years apart) ended badly. Of course I was defeated in the end, but that was preceded by being thrown out of my party by a prime minister who had warned me to stay silent, stop canvassing Canadians for ideas, to cease blogging from Parliament, posting interviews with opposition politicians or voting my conscience. It was a disaster.

Sadly, not much has changed. All party leaders are the same. Look what happened to Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott. Remember them?

It’s election day in America. The Trump-Biden battle has been epic, stressing the entire world in the middle of a pandemic that was already too much to cope with. Soon we will know the outcome, but meanwhile it’s worth noting a couple of differences.

First, Americans can vote directly for a president. You cannot choose a prime minister. You have but one ballot, supposed to suffice for picking a party and platform, a local representative, a leader and potential PM. You might like Trudeau or Singh, but dislike the local Lib or Dipper candidate. Tough. One choice.

This is why we tend to have caucuses full of sheep since the majority of people vote for parties and leaders, not MPs. Unlike me, most of those elected folks understand this. They listen. They shut up.

In the US, where folks can pick a Congressman/woman as well as a senator and the president – all independently – there’s far more diversity of opinion, less constraint, enhanced debate and constant constructive compromise. The executive branch (White House) can be thwarted by the legislative one (Congress) or the judiciary (Supreme Court). But in Canada whatever the PMO decides pretty much becomes law. We are far closer to a dictatorship than most realize or understand.

Meanwhile our first-past-the-post electoral system can bring skewed results. In the last election the Liberals formed government after receiving the support of 33% of voters – but that was less than the party which came second. Huh?

Covid has made this all worse. Most provincial governments just declared states of emergency, assumed special powers and shut down the opposition. In Ottawa the prime minister prorogued Parliament, kneecapping an all-party committee probing how his family had personally benefitted from the WE charity and its burger-brothers. The virus essentially placed all governments in Canada above the scrutiny of citizens.

This was not the case in America. Congress has debated virus-assistance packages hotly and intensely, passing some and delaying others. It might have been messy and ineffectual at times, partisan and myopic, but it was nonetheless democratic. And today millions of people will render their judgment on this and every other major topic.

Who will win?

No idea. The polls may have been correct. Or in error once again. Voters are elusive creatures. They even change their minds

But one thing is for sure. Americans were allowed to vote for their leader. Envy them.

229 comments ↓

#1 Vaughan on 11.03.20 at 1:09 pm

Nice post, Garth.

#2 forgotmyusername on 11.03.20 at 1:20 pm

I also enjoyed reading this.

And thank you for the hard work of being an MP, who tried to serve all Canadians!

#3 Stephladimir Harputin on 11.03.20 at 1:24 pm

Every caucus member must think the same way, vote as instructed and speak when permitted.

Exactly!

Shut up and obey, Turner!

I am still in control of you. Don’t ever forget it.

#4 Turd World on 11.03.20 at 1:25 pm

I feel for CNN (and apparently they do also)if Trump loses.What will the narrative be–no more racism,sexism etc?Trudeau will also feel some pressure as the US smokescreen will be gone.Canadians and the media will see nothing in Biden of any interest so the focus will be on Blackface himself.

#5 Beetman on 11.03.20 at 1:30 pm

Garth even though my political persuasions are different than yours I HUMBLY take my hat off to you for a very concise explanation of US politics vs Can politics. You are 100% right in that we basically live under a dictatorship. When the most corrupt prime minister in memory (I’m 70) gets away with scandal after scandal and fires the justice minister and buys off the media than people what comes next, Gulags. This is not the kind of Canada that people laid down their lives for. It’s depressing and sad what’s happing to the western democracies.

#6 Heloguy on 11.03.20 at 1:30 pm

I am surprised that more provinces haven’t followed the lead of Quebec. Say what you want about the Bloc, but ultimately they are the only party that represent the views of their region of our country.

Cheers

#7 Buy? Curious? on 11.03.20 at 1:31 pm

Garth, you were a great MP! You know why? After a few years, willingly or not, you left! These geezers that have been sitting for longer than yours truly has been alive isn’t right. They’ve got a form of Stockholm Syndrome where they become so out of touch that it’s affecting people’s lives. I don’t mind passionate people with different opinions but I can’t stand old people who work the same job for decades. Get over yourselves! Go Kamala, I mean Biden!

#8 conan on 11.03.20 at 1:38 pm

370-168
Total blowout for Biden and an end of Republicanism for decades. There will be overspill into other countries including Canada. So, expect a Federal election in Canada so that voters can express their frustration with the Conservative Party.

#9 truefacts on 11.03.20 at 1:40 pm

Garth,

Great post! I remember when the PC leadership race was in Ottawa – you were running. You had a debt clock, but you were just a couple years too early on that for the populace. The PCs were destroyed the following election and it ushered in the Reform Party and Bloc. This dynamic (and the bond market) led the Liberals to slash spending and slay the deficit!

Now the Liberals want to bankrupt us again. Any chance you can dust off the old debt clock and have it featured again???

Or will you need to add some more digits? You clock showed the hundreds of billions we were in debt – how cute! Now we have to talk in trillions…

#10 TurnerNation on 11.03.20 at 1:42 pm

But how many new hospitals are being announced, in this ‘public health crisis’? That massive defict, they had all year. Higher immigration levels mean we require more hospitals too.
Look at your local hospital why are they begging each year, fundraising for basic equipment?
They are playing us hard…

“Doug Ford
@fordnation
· 17h
Parents want their children to have the access to the best education. That’s why we’re investing over $62 million to build two brand new secondary schools.”

#11 upenuff on 11.03.20 at 1:46 pm

Great post today Garth! And loved the walk down horror lane and what a great cartoon picture!

Upenuff

#12 Dolce Vita on 11.03.20 at 1:47 pm

“I ground through two perfectly good pair of *cowboy boots.”

*Drugstore [Uturn Ranch is not the Stampede…mouth watering Apple Pie though]

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THAT was excellent My Liege, just excellent.

#13 Ustabe on 11.03.20 at 1:51 pm

Is our problem the system or the people we allow to inhabit the system?

I’ve worked on at least 15-20 Progressive Conservative campaigns, both federal and provincial. Mostly as a volunteer but I have pay stubs from 2 provincial and 1 federal campaign.

This, of course, was back in the day. We managed to confine the neoliberal policy wonks to the back rooms then, now from Gordon Campbell to Harper and everything in between they seem to be filtering to the top.

Look at the Human Thumb the CPC has recently installed. Prime time to be an actual leader of the opposition yet what is he concerned about? Posturing and whinging?

And the Liberals are no better. Parading a series of intellectuals without a clue and most recently pseudo-intellectuals with only a partial clue.

Where is a federal version of Corky Evans when you need him. eh?

#14 Bill on 11.03.20 at 1:54 pm

Yup maybe you try to create a better country…
Chastised for that…..
I have zero faith in our Traitor PM. He works more for the CCP…..The media softball’s questions at him, if you could even find him. There NO opposition.
Leadership for the people is long gone and its disgusting. Socialism is on the front burner for T2. The policies and trend are VERY disturbing.
The next 10 years wont even come close to resembling the past 10.
BTW Biden’s a huge proponent of socialism. They go we are done.
Good luck.

#15 KNOW IT ALL on 11.03.20 at 1:55 pm

THEY can vote for their leader – so what?

We got Drake, The Bieb, and Poutine…

Beat that!!

#16 KLNR on 11.03.20 at 1:56 pm

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#17 Faron on 11.03.20 at 1:57 pm

Great post Garth.

I can speak to this as an American first living in Canada under Chretien and then later Harper after a hiatus back in the US. It wasn’t until Harper when I returned to Canada in ’08 that I realized how much power the governing party has and the leader of that party has. I’m a scientist in the field studying climate change and was horrified to watch policy after policy roll through government without any hope of push- back owing to the lack of checks on the PM/party.

The muzzling of climate scientists was real. I work in parallel with the feds and received numerous media inquiries about climate during the Harper years that the feds were not allowed to handle. Sometimes those inquiries were as an expert to address a paper I hadn’t written, but that the author couldn’t respond to because of the muzzled status of their ministry. This demonstrates how willing the PM was to suppress any diverging views from hisg overnment. Someone like Garth getting the boot for picking at the edges of what was to be sold as “true” lines up perfectly with my experience.

It took me a while to fully grasp that the opposition party in parliament has almost no bearing on the direction of the country. I kept asking canadian friends, what about senate (total joke). What about the courts (yeah, but they rarely get a chance to stop policy). WTF? By the time Trudeau was voted in I knew the deal, so could only be saddened as he shiftily changed his platform and pulled back his offerings made to lure in the NDPers.

This won’t change, so it’s critical to have a population that is educated, engaged, voting and vocal. I disagree with some of the more extreme Trudeau criticism that is expressed here, but when it’s geared toward addressing policy differences, it’s refreshing even if I don’t like it. Stay sharp Canada. Make up for the power imbalance by being civil but loud.

Finally, and tangentially, the CBC is not your enemy. Fox news and the siloing of discourse on social media has caused centrism and objectivity to feel left-skewed. It’s not. It has a long tradition of being the voice of the populace. It serves a critical role in uniting a nation strewn across these thousands of kms. If you don’t like it, criticize it, call in, write letters but don’t cancel it not the least because that would be hypocritical. A non-commercial media beholden to no one needs to thrive to serve as a lifeblood of a democracy. If you doubt this, just look south where the media landscape is commercial and, most would agree, very hard to trust.

#18 Dolce Vita on 11.03.20 at 2:04 pm

Living in a Republic now vs. a former Constitutional Monarchy has been an eye opener.

First Italian national election I felt like a kid for the first time in a candy shop.

“You mean I can vote for a Deputy, Senator, City Counsellors, Regional President, Dogcatcher [I made the last one up for effect]…etc. all from a different party?”

“Are you kidding me?”

Ya, the ballot was a mile long and they had pretty pictures.

YIPPEE!

No matter how messed up their Gov is in America, or Italia, ENVY us Canada. We have checks and balances in our system that you can only DREAM of and BEST, you get to vote for that check or that balance.

And ya, Garth is correct it gets messy sometimes but it is Democracy Max vs. Canada where you get to vote for Benevolent PMO Despot and hope he/she is not a nutter.

You got a nutter instead Canada, sorry, but you did and do.

#19 Alberta Boy on 11.03.20 at 2:04 pm

I have been a huge fan of yours since your days as a rebel MP. If you were back on the campaign trail I would be excited about domestic politics again….I would even knock doors for you. That said, I understand why you choose not to bang your head against the brick wall that is Canadian politics. Keep up the good fight sir.

#20 No Envy on 11.03.20 at 2:05 pm

Sorry, but why would I envy the American System, where the electoral college and gerrymandering skew the results?

Hillary won by popular vote, but Trump got elected. Al Gore vs Bush was decided by the Supreme Court. Doesn’t sound like a good system to me.

Canada’s system is not perfect either, but let’s not pretend that US is better in this aspect. It’s not.

#21 Hawk on 11.03.20 at 2:11 pm

This is a good post. The fact that the US system is way better is just a fact, not a lack of patriotism for Canada.

Now we will wait to see if America will validate or repudiate the last four years.

#22 Terence on 11.03.20 at 2:17 pm

Many of the polls got it all wrong back in 2016, so I sense some deja vu tonight. Donald won in 2016 because everyone hated Hillary just a little more (more Woman voted FOR Trump), not necessarily because they loved Donald a ton more. But they definitely hated Hillary. It’s like picking your poison tonight. Blue pill is crazy man with strange ideas. Red pill is crazy man that let’s you know how crazy Blue Pill man really is.

#23 Classical Liberal Millennial on 11.03.20 at 2:18 pm

#8 – Conan
370-168
Total blowout for Biden and an end of Republicanism for decades. There will be overspill into other countries including Canada. So, expect a Federal election in Canada so that voters can express their frustration with the Conservative Party.

That’s a lot of hyperbole. There have been bigger blowouts in US election history than that. And Obama winning handily in 08 and 12 sure didn’t have an effect on Harper in 06, 08, 11…

#24 CL on 11.03.20 at 2:21 pm

It’s what Buffett always says, “we have a system that works”. It is why they are the most powerful successful country on the planet.

I have always said Canada is a “hidden” dictatorship so I agree with you that we are closer to a dictatorship than most realize.

#25 Frank Blood on 11.03.20 at 2:24 pm

“We are far closer to a dictatorship than most realize or understand.”

https://calgaryherald.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-military-to-establish-new-organization-to-use-propaganda-other-techniques-to-influence-canadians

#26 Damifino on 11.03.20 at 2:25 pm

But one thing is for sure. Americans were allowed to vote for their leader. Envy them
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That can not be denied. And yet, the presidential candidate with fewer citizen votes was elected last time. In some ways their system is as dysfunctional as ours. Rather then envy them, I feel some kinship.

Still, both systems are better than, say, Russia or China.

#27 Alberta Ed on 11.03.20 at 2:28 pm

You kept your integrity, Garth. That’s what really counts in the end.

#28 Coho on 11.03.20 at 2:28 pm

Thank you for that, Garth. If the majority of politicians held your values, the world would be a better place.
But, from what you have described, there is indeed no place for strong and principled people positioned in government that truly want to serve their constituents.

The people instead are “represented” by many ambitious albeit weak and anemic ones recruited by their respective parties. If the odd good one slips through he or she must sell out or be kicked out. Very sad. I would guess it has been that way for a long, long time, it is just that this is the time when the system appears to be fracturing and things are being exposed.

#29 Two-thirds on 11.03.20 at 2:28 pm

“Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”

Winston S. Churchill

Messy US-style Democracy, or Socialism with Kanadian characteristics?

We will see over the coming months what Canadians choose…

#30 Dogman01 on 11.03.20 at 2:29 pm

I have been disappointed with the lack of evolution of the Canadian system.
It may have been suitable for a time before the Telegraph and Train travel, but we have Instant communications and could have more democracy now.
I recall a promise of a proportional representation system in Trudeau’s first term?

More and more I see democracy as “ a cover” for establishment rule, red-tie or blue tie you pretty much end up with the same strategic direction.

Now I do not understand the campaigns to get people to vote, the last people I want to vote are people not informed and not motivated, please stay home.

In fact earning your right to vote might be a good idea,12 months of service (military or otherwise) and then you earn the responsibility to vote.

#31 Dolce Vita on 11.03.20 at 2:32 pm

On the Vienna attacks last night I was perusing MSM both sides of the Atlantic.

Brain dead N. America thinks it was one attacker, maybe 2. More interested in the death and injury tally than the facts.

Mercifully, there is this thing called Twitter and #vienattack.

The attackers all dressed in the same Club Uniform of white overalls, automatic weapon, pistol, black belt boots, toque and armament bag. Here is an image of 4 of them, after giving themselves up, disrobing for the Wien Polizei (I heard the commentary by the videographer to know they were the shooters – something you never want to see from your living room):

https://i.imgur.com/kyhFEhb.png

The other was terminated and THAT I will not post an image of. Disrespectful.

Here is one in team colors just after randomly shooting at people down the street – video of him shooting a bystander with automatic weapon at point blank range, walking calmly down the street 50 m or so and coming back to shoot the fallen person with a pistol as he sauntered down the street:

https://i.imgur.com/15l9Qpt.png

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There were many people on Twitter last night infuriated by what they were watching and it was UNANIMOUS regardless of your political stripe, color, religious beliefs or whatever from across the World and all stood in support of Österreich and Wien (as do I).

Yet our MSM have taken it upon themselves to treat us like children, lying to us, covering up the facts as if we are THE mindless, witless masses incapable of reason, understand and compassion.

Galls my stomach to the core.

#32 Squire on 11.03.20 at 2:33 pm

Great post Garth. I never understood why Canadians think they are in any way better than Americans. At least they have choice and rights. Even rights we barely have here. I think even India is more democratic than Canada. We are simply Royal Subjects and our land is just Crown land in the end.

Keep up the effort in educating Canadian, especially with personal finances.

#33 Diamond Dog on 11.03.20 at 2:35 pm

#20 No Envy on 11.03.20 at 2:05 pm

Garth’s criticisms of the Canadian system are spot on though. We don’t vote for a leader, but should and there is much less independence within political parties than there is in the U.S. congress specifically.

What I don’t like about both electoral systems is the money in politics. Say what you will about Chretien, but he brought in publicly funded elections. This was wise and fair, no doubt about it until Harper changed the election law proving that in order for both Canada and the U.S. to move away from lobby interests and big money in politics, both systems would need a constitutional amendment get change the system. To do so, it would take same party control in all 3 houses with at least 2/3rds of the vote. Some say its impossible. I say a smart leader puts it to the gen pop and campaigns on it, puts it to a vote.

The money in politics has without question, poisoned the well in both nations but especially so in the USA. There is major regulatory disfunction in food & drug regs, in commerce and banking, housing, energy and the environment, its poisoned most if not all areas of regulation and spending in the military and health care is no different. It all comes back to election campaign financing. Until elections are publicly funded, both nations will never achieve their true potential as democratic systems.

Excellent piece Garth!

#34 SunShowers on 11.03.20 at 2:39 pm

Well Garth, I’m of the opinion that all politicians are in it for themselves. More often than not, the way a politician demonstrates that they are NOT in it for themselves comes with significant political and/or personal consequences.

So for what it’s worth, I think you were/are one of the good ones, and although I may disagree with how you might go about it, you are one of only two politicians who I would trust to put the best interest of the people ahead of their own.

The other? Bernie Sanders.

#35 mike from mtl on 11.03.20 at 2:40 pm

Don’t forget in theory the ‘Queen of Canada’, falling that GovG can legally override anything. Totally unlikely but another weird monarchy quirk reserved for those times “just in case”.

You can totally be onboard with your local MP but in effect you’re also electing the PM so that choice becomes critical and local representation is secondary.

But day to day things like roadwork property taxes etc, municipal choice matters. Who’s elected there has a huge impact on where you live and work.

#36 Pete from St. Cesaire on 11.03.20 at 2:44 pm

Voting & elections: the belief that people can delegate to others powers and rights that they themselves do not possess.

That aside, and since no one seems to be interested in adopting the system of Voluntaryism, I suggest that political parties be outlawed, every member of parliament be answerable only to their constituents and any back-room collusion be severely punished by law. That would be a great first-step towards direct democracy and would put an end to this farce of minority governments (and majority governments elected through a minority of the popular vote).

#37 Habitt on 11.03.20 at 2:50 pm

Thanks Garth for the post. Spot on. Conrad Black supporting Trump. I as well.

#38 Niagara Region on 11.03.20 at 2:55 pm

Sadly, there is no real democracy in the US. First, millions of voters were deliberately purged from the voter roles in the 2016 presidential election, mostly black, Asian-American, and Latino voters, but large swaths of university students and many active duty servicemen/women were also deliberately disenfranchised. Second, there is fierce gerrymandering nationwide. Third, disturbing restrictive voting laws deliberately aim to disenfranchise minority voters. For example, the 4th circuit court in North Carolina declared in 2016 that North Carolina voting laws “target African Americans with almost surgical precision” (source: https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/07/circuit-court-north-carolina-law-targeted-african-americans-surgical-precision/). Fourth, in 4 of the 5 last presidential elections, the Democrats won the popular vote, but Bush (2000) and Trump got the white house anyway. BBC investigative journalist Greg Pallast has reported on US voter purges (and more) for the past two decades. Here is a link to his documentary on the 2016 presidential election voter purges:
https://thebestdemocracymoneycanbuy.com/

#39 FreeBird on 11.03.20 at 2:59 pm

“We are far closer to a dictatorship than most realize or understand.“
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Can only wish to still in the dark. I’m not. Seems like our system would give even more power to donors/lobbyists of the party in power…or in JT’s case Jagmeet. But I think most politicians (Garth was prob an exception) should wear jackets/buttons listing their big donors and who they’re incentivized by. My dad said one hand in front to shake voter’s hands or make promises and one hand behind the back to take payoffs. Not sure if true in all cases but let’s be honest. We have friends in Georgia living quietly w/heads down and others waiting it out on this side (doing the same). I’ll sit back and watch the comments. It’ll be long night moderating. Delete button ready. Hope Garth is comfortable w/Bandit. Drink in hand. Good luck US.

#40 Dolce Vita on 11.03.20 at 3:00 pm

#18 Dolce Vita

I forgot to mention in Italia you get to vote for:

Lefty
Righty
Centrist
Commie
Retired (ya, they have Retiree Party in Italia)
Animalist
Pirate (ask them)
Green
Fascist (basically, got no votes, one shot deal with them)
.
.
.

at least once for each (Deputees 2, Senators 2, Regional President 1 [like a Premier] etc.)

You get to be a Lefty and a Righty on the same ballot sheet, beats the ONE SINGLE VOTE you get Canada, hands down. Great if you have a split or multiple personality.

Check. Balance. And some frivolity too.

Demos Kratos – started by the Greeks, made more inclusive by the Roman Republic. No Kings and Queens (the later as in Royalty) and such to muck up governing.

You have to love a Republic for all its foibles. VOTES by one person, NOT the ONE vote.

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Also, GREAT for the UNDECIDED or if you have a split or multiple personality.

#41 hwy_str on 11.03.20 at 3:01 pm

Thank you, Garth! I wish more people would try to *really understand* how politics work, instead of blindly voting for the guy/lady who “looks cute”.

#42 Andrewski on 11.03.20 at 3:05 pm

So, being a rookie MP means you quickly learn the rules from the old timers. It’s much like when a family gets a new puppy, while already having an adult dog. The oldster shows the pup the ropes. This is where you eat, pee & poo. Get it, got it, good boy.

#43 AM in MN on 11.03.20 at 3:06 pm

Technically, you can only vote for your state representatives to the electoral college, even though its the candidate’s name on the ballot.

If you don’t live in a swing state, your vote hardly counts, although there are always down ballot races that are close.

If you watched Obama Care get dragged over the goal line, or Judicial confirmations, I don’t think you can make the argument about party loyalty being less important in the US.

Either way, what is most important are the rights of the people, long after the election, to be able to speak freely organize, defend themselves, move freely etc. such that there are free elections in the future.

Obviously many Trump voters are worried about losing much of that if the Dems have a sweep and they change the rules to make the whole country California, but for now we just need to wait and see. If Trump loses, it will be the first election I’ve ever seen where a candidate packs them in 50,000+ at a time in some rural airport and still loses…we’ll see.

#44 Ael Idich on 11.03.20 at 3:10 pm

Bang on Garth. Only two true democracies remain on planet Earth. Lets hope after today there will not be just one.

#45 Ronaldo on 11.03.20 at 3:15 pm

Love the cartoon.

#46 Love_The_Cottage on 11.03.20 at 3:16 pm

No idea. The polls may have been correct. Or in error once again. Voters are elusive creatures. They even change their minds
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Statistical predictions (at least good ones) include probabilities and margins of error. They are not strictly right or wrong. For example 538 has an 89% chance of a Biden victory.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo

#47 Linda on 11.03.20 at 3:19 pm

The American voter may be able to vote directly for who they prefer to be POTUS, but the Electoral College – some 538 people – can decide that Candidate ‘X’ wins, regardless of whether that candidate received the most votes from the general public. Just Googled to find out when the Electoral College votes; as per the mighty Google they cast their ballots on December 14th. Oy.

#48 HPVictoria on 11.03.20 at 3:20 pm

Thanks Garth for the excellent post. It’s a big concern that our elected representatives of each party are rarely able to represent their riding. How can we promote change in that area? Right now, I feel that minority governments (provincial and federal) give us the best chance for constituent representation and more balanced legislation.

#49 KLNR on 11.03.20 at 3:21 pm

@#20 No Envy on 11.03.20 at 2:05 pm
Sorry, but why would I envy the American System, where the electoral college and gerrymandering skew the results?

Hillary won by popular vote, but Trump got elected. Al Gore vs Bush was decided by the Supreme Court. Doesn’t sound like a good system to me.

Canada’s system is not perfect either, but let’s not pretend that US is better in this aspect. It’s not.

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well put.

#50 Jim on 11.03.20 at 3:22 pm

Dems, China and Fake News plans to use Hammer and Scorecard vote changing software to steal the election exposed and halted!

Expect an honest election now and a Trump landslide.

God bless Lieutenant General Thomas Mcinerney for exposing this.

#51 Brian on 11.03.20 at 3:25 pm

Garth,

Ever consider running as an MP again?

#52 Freedom First on 11.03.20 at 3:25 pm

I said Trump wins in 2016. I say Trump wins in 2020.

Freedom First

#53 jess on 11.03.20 at 3:26 pm

This bank is worried about its association/reputation with mr. trump?

This is a bank that : charged with violations of federal law like money laundering for Russian oligarchs, rigging the interest rate benchmark known as Libor, selling fraudulent mortgage securities, banking violation investor protection violation toxic securities abuses foreign exchange market manipulation

too many to list violations
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/prog.php?parent=deutsche-bank

https://www.baystreet.ca/articles/stockstowatch/61554/Deutsche-Bank-Anxious-to-Sever-Ties-with-Trump
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Boeing’s 787 move shows tax breaks don’t buy happiness
Oct. 2, 2020 at 6:01 am Updated Oct. 2, 2020 at 5:45 pm

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeings-787-decision-shows-tax-breaks-dont-buy-happiness/
https://covidstimuluswatch.org/

#54 jal on 11.03.20 at 3:27 pm

A lot of crystal balls are going to be proven to be fake, not true, not real, or genuine : counterfeit, sham.

In the USA system you get a lot more of “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours”

#55 Ronaldo on 11.03.20 at 3:27 pm

Rex Murphy’s take on the election.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-tinderbox-that-is-american-democracy

#56 Blair on 11.03.20 at 3:32 pm

Americans vote for an individual, but effectively vote for electors who actually choose the president. The majority national will is not represented when the when the number of electors is not in accord with it.

#57 NSNG on 11.03.20 at 3:33 pm

#136 TurnerNation on 11.03.20 at 11:24 am

The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today announced the launch of the new Rapid Housing Initiative (RHI) that invests $1 billion to create up to 3,000 new permanent, affordable housing units across the country.

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AH! HA! HA!

I think there are more homeless than that in SURREY!

#58 just a dude on 11.03.20 at 3:35 pm

Garth,

Depressing yet outstanding post. Thank you, Sir. And thank you for your past service in an official capacity and your ongoing service via this forum. Your must be made of Kevlar given the abuse you’ve taken.

#59 Drill Baby Drill on 11.03.20 at 3:41 pm

Oh wise Blog King thank you for the service you have and are providing both as an ex MP and current blog referee and instructor.

#60 Prince Polo on 11.03.20 at 3:49 pm

Garth, I saw the other day that you are offering car washes. How much of the Turner Investments advisory fee goes to this obvious add-on service that you provide to clients?

Just trying to keep it light today…..suspect there will be much political gnashing of teeth tonight and in the coming days.

#61 earthboundmisfit on 11.03.20 at 3:54 pm

At least you left with your integrity intact. That’s more than can be said for a disturbing number of them.

More that anything else, what concerns me right now is the concentration of power in the PMO. For that, we have Trudeau the Elder to thank. It’s my understanding that the current crop of woke jokers is made up of The Prince of Papineau’s “besties” from the McGill undergrad debating society. I’m beginning to think we might be better off abandoning the Westminster parliamentary system and look to becoming a republic. (with emphasis on the lower case “r”)

#62 FriedEggs on 11.03.20 at 3:55 pm

Voting – Heads we lose, tails they win.

“There is something behind the throne greater than the king himself.”

– Sir William Pit

#63 protea on 11.03.20 at 3:56 pm

Thought of the day !!!! I personally would love to see the back of Trudeau.

As far as our neighbors are concerned for the sake of democracy a change in the US would be a wise choice. Trumps undoing was his lack of leadership on Covid-19 !! attacking Dr. Fauchi doesn’t help Trumps credibility ! He has had some winners but the Virus will put him back as an “Apprentice again”

#64 Guelph Guru on 11.03.20 at 4:00 pm

Yes, our system has flaws. It’s ok to have flaws as long as we work on them. It brings forth the complicated topic of State and Democracy.
Handing out power on popular vote is dangerous.
In our work place, performance is evaluated every quarter. If you are not up to the expected performance level…. Au revoir.
Corruption , deficit, lies and 4 years later you get back on the throne. As Garth said. Huh!!

#65 truefacts on 11.03.20 at 4:04 pm

The REAL factor that undermines democracy is how the APPOINTED Supreme Courts in both countries just “read in” things into the Constitutions that are not even written in there. So you have 9 people in a room making decisions by claiming the writers of the Constitution meant “this or that” WITHOUT sticking to the original writing.

#66 The West on 11.03.20 at 4:05 pm

Excellent post!

#67 truefacts on 11.03.20 at 4:06 pm

I found the terms (re: Constitution).

Originalists – the meaning of the constitutional text is fixed.

Living constitutionalists contend that constitutional law can and should evolve in response to changing circumstances and values.

So the “living constitutionalist” can make an end-run around democracy by just “reading in” whatever they like – without any vote for the public!

#68 an investor on 11.03.20 at 4:06 pm

Today’s blog is brilliant. Thanks.

#69 James on 11.03.20 at 4:08 pm

#5 Beetman on 11.03.20 at 1:30 pm

Garth even though my political persuasions are different than yours I HUMBLY take my hat off to you for a very concise explanation of US politics vs Can politics. You are 100% right in that we basically live under a dictatorship. When the most corrupt prime minister in memory (I’m 70) gets away with scandal after scandal and fires the justice minister and buys off the media than people what comes next, Gulags. This is not the kind of Canada that people laid down their lives for. It’s depressing and sad what’s happing to the western democracies.
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Having lived in the USA and Canada it does give you an wide open view of the differences. While the USA has an entire list of foibles regarding their system it is a better method of democracy than the $hit-show we have here with T2 in charge. We need reforms in this country in order to become a real democracy. If we continue to let this half-assed drama teacher to continue trying to school us we are doomed.

#70 Apocalypse2020 on 11.03.20 at 4:18 pm

GLOBAL CATASTROPHE BEGINS TOMORROW!

PREPARE.

#71 Kevin on 11.03.20 at 4:23 pm

Great post, Garth.

In a future column, can you talk more about what kind of style of government or political reforms we can make (or push for) so we can be more democratic?

#72 WEXIT on 11.03.20 at 4:25 pm

Excellent comments Garth and good on you.

Not popular but the Americans do a good job on some things, and their voting system is one.

Landslide for Biden tonight.

#73 Canada TRUMP fan! on 11.03.20 at 4:33 pm

I hope trump gets in. Who wants a bunch of democrats/liberals in. Ugh. Biden will try and do a lockdown (good luck). He will be horrible for the oil and gas industries. Prosperity of Canada matters! We don’t need anti oil/resource dictators running usa and Canada. Biden and his group are also power trip war mongers.
If Biden gets it- let’s see what kind of crap he stirs up with China Russia Syria and so on. You will all wish trump was president. Media is rotten to the core. Clinton/Soros all special interests control Biden.
I’m a Canadian nationalist I stand with trump who wants to protect his country. America is not for sale like Canada is. You liberals are mental cases

#74 Ken R on 11.03.20 at 4:51 pm

If Canadians could vote for our leader, as Americans are doing today; I suggest Ed Broadbent and Jack Layton could have been Prime Ministers. I think we are poorer as a nation due to our system of government.

#75 ADAM SMITH on 11.03.20 at 4:54 pm

I certainly do envy the Americans most of their system. It was designed by geniuses trying to make the perfect system while ours was basically just borrowed from the UK despite the massive differences in the countries.

However, the Americans screwed up on one point compared to pretty much the rest of the developed world and it has blown apart everything they got right. In defense of their rightfully beloved free speech, they decided that freedom of speech and freedom of reach were the same things and basically legalized bribery in the process.

That’s why when Canada falls apart, it will because Canadian politicians give us everything we ask for. When the US falls apart, it will because their politicians give wealthy special interests, and only wealthy special interests, everything they ask for.

#76 Xantac on 11.03.20 at 5:00 pm

Canadian socialized healthcare with a Trudeau twist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmG66vcS8w4

Arrested for having nightmares of police!
Gets arrested by police in Dr. Hogarth’s office

#77 jess on 11.03.20 at 5:02 pm

67 truefacts on 11.03.20 at 4:06 pm
First Amendment
Do Bots Have First Amendment Rights?

Recent Supreme Court cases suggest ‘yes.’ And that could be bad news for a new California law that requires bots to identify themselves.

By LAURENT SACHAROFF

November 27, 2018

https://www.jurist.org/commentary/2018/11/weatherby-history-repeating-first-amendment-fake-news/

203 years later
The 27th Amendment, also known as the Congressional Compensation Act of 1789, It says that pay raises or decreases for members of Congress can only take effect after the next election.

How a C for the paper turned into an A

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/blog/how-a-c-grade-college-term-paper-led-to-a-constitutional-amendment

#78 Reximus on 11.03.20 at 5:05 pm

I think the senate races are as or more important this time then the president race….being pres. with the opposition holding both houses is no fun. Trump especially would hate having to work with Schiff and Pelosi

#79 Diamond Dog on 11.03.20 at 5:06 pm

I know we can get partial with the horses we pick to win, but Biden does win in a blowout. There are several clues as to why that is.

– First, polling. Biden has been ahead 7 to 8% nationally in a rolling average up to today. That matters.
– Secondly, turnout. The number being thrown around is 150 million voters. We saw 129 mil in 2016. Did Trump somehow miraculously expand his base of uneducated male white voters when the demographic of uneducated white voters shrunk from 45% to 41% nationally over 4 years? (uneducated seniors died off only to be replaced with educated seniors, the largest demographic shift)
– Thirdly the demographic of ages 18 to 35 has turned out big time in this election and they tilt heavily toward Democrats.
– Fourthly, Rupert Murdock, chairman of FOX news, toned down the propaganda machine with a week to go in the election. Part of this is because they didn’t have enough story or numbers to justify continuing the pursuit of Hunter Biden or the Biden family. No scandal leads only to lawsuits. FOX is a business and there is a bottom line they adhere to. Part of it is Trump’s on behavior on multi levels but mostly, its because of the numbers. Rupert Murdock doesn’t back losers, he cuts them loose. It’s subtle, but without the full support of FOX in the last week of an election, Trump could easily lose a couple points with turnout alone and no one would be the wiser. Add 2 and 2 and you get good potential for a blowout.

– Fifthly, Trump has run a poor campaign. It’s true. He tried to repeat the exact same strategy as 2016, only it was more exaggerated and less justified. He couldn’t expand his base (uneducated white males, male/female was a 50/50 split), an uneducated base that once again, shrank by 4% and in so doing, only galvanized support against him.

– Money. Trump campaign donations were Trumped by Biden somewhere in the neighborhood if memory serves, by close to 2 to 1. That matters. Florida went dark as an example in the final week of TV advertising to funnel $$$ to NE battleground states in a desperate bid to win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

– The virus. Trumps message of “rounding the curve” and “doctors are cashing in 2K per Covid cause of death, the death rate numbers are “doctored”, this kind of easily dis-proven messaging in the face of a pandemic with numbers that are blowing up throughout the U.S. has galvanized and motivated voters against him. Messages like this in states like Wisconsin bruised hard by Covid… once again a poorly run campaign.

– Bad policy. Trump didn’t even have policy to run on for a second term. What’s that, Trump voters don’t think so? Name one policy. How disorganized is that? Not to mention there was terrible past policies from the WH from regulation and taxation to foreign policy and trade. Uneducated voters may not know it, but the informed know it well. With policy, Trump was a 4 year flop and that carries baggage.

– Lame duck potential. Even if Trump would have won, the Dem possibility of taking over the senate and congress were well above 50%. Under this scenario, Trump would have been impeached once again and gone within the first year. The only one’s who didn’t know this? The uneducated voter. (one can bet Rupert Murdock for example looked into this crystal ball and didn’t like what he saw, best fix is cut Trump loose)

– The Biden factor. Trump went up against a more skilled and likable opponent than Clinton. Biden is liked by Dems and Republicans alike and he knows how to get things done but mostly, its because Joe is a winner. Just to say Biden is a winner doesn’t do it justice, Joe Biden is a winner because he can compromise. He knows the middle ground and that’s what it takes to get things done, never mind win, much more than people realize. His reputation is proven and personality is well known and that resonates with voters, especially in these times of civil unrest.

– Republicans. Trump has alienated everyone including voters in his base but mainly Republicans that are educated. You simply can’t go to war with everyone and not expect to make enemies within your own party, whether its the media that supports you, or the military or intelligence or public servants and on it goes. This will show up at the ballot box, without a doubt. Trump violated the cardinal sin in politics. “Never turn on the support that got you there” and he did all too often likely without even realizing it.

Like I say, sympathies to the losers we picked to win, its hard not to get impassioned with politics, I do empathize but that being said, this cake is baked and Texas, I believe, sets the tone for tonight and the next several days to come. Sorry Trumpets, its just not going to be your night.

#80 AM in MN on 11.03.20 at 5:07 pm

#20 No Envy on 11.03.20 at 2:05 pm
Sorry, but why would I envy the American System, where the electoral college and gerrymandering skew the results?

Hillary won by popular vote, but Trump got elected. Al Gore vs Bush was decided by the Supreme Court. Doesn’t sound like a good system to me.

Canada’s system is not perfect either, but let’s not pretend that US is better in this aspect. It’s not.

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The 2000 election was NOT decided by the Supreme Court. The vote was certified by the FL Sec. of State and the Sore/Loserman Campaign filed a lawsuit to contest it. He lost at the FL State Supreme Court and then filed an appeal at SCOTUS, who told him that he had no grounds to overturn the FL decision.

Plenty of close Canadian elections have gone to Judicial recounts, which means arguing over poorly marked or spoiled ballots etc.

Commonwealth Governments are appointed by the Crown, after assuring the Crown that they have the confidence of the house. Having such an apolitical referee has its merits. With multiple parties represented, this has taken as much as 7 weeks after the vote to appoint a Government. Not everyone agrees this is a superior system.

#81 NoName on 11.03.20 at 5:09 pm

So in anticipation of election results and solidarity to ruller i prepared two bottles, and depending who wins appropriate colour bottle will be open.

I do prefer fast acting peptobismo, but it extra strength alkaseltzer or gaviscon will do, but that depends on who is a viner…

#82 Barb on 11.03.20 at 5:11 pm

Great post, superb explanation.
You said it all with “PMO”.
Did Mr Butts slither back into the office? T2 can’t function without him.
Gerald Butts, decision-maker, has a fine ring to it. Not!

#83 joblo on 11.03.20 at 5:14 pm

Kanada is completely irrelevant, inconsequential, insignificant, of no matter/moment, of little account, trivial, negligible, minor, trifling, petty, superficial to the REAL world!

Yet Kanadian Komrades continue to think someone cares.

#84 joe on 11.03.20 at 5:22 pm

Trump in a landslide with no help from you and your sleazy friends in the media

#85 Paul B on 11.03.20 at 5:23 pm

Great post, Garth. I loved reading your blog when you were an MP, and am grateful that you are still blogging.

I think you once lamented that the MP is like a salesman for their party – to sell the party policies to the electorate. I wish we had more independent MPs who could properly represent their constituents.

#86 Dogman01 on 11.03.20 at 5:24 pm

“We are societies of altruists governed by psychopaths, that those who claim to represent us, those who get into positions of power, are very often wildly different in that psychology to those whom they claim to represent.” – George Monbiot

When Biden wins, the USA will move back to the path it was on and that Canada is still on, That of Globalization:
– reduction of the standard of living (consumption) for the masses of the Western World.
– rising standard of living for the rest of the world.
– Increasing wealth and power for the current Plutocracy

Creating:
– A massive lower middle class of 7+ Billion
– An incredible wealthy and powerful 0.5% whom have access to miracle genetic and species changing medical advances.

Read Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31138556-homo-deus

Trump was an interruption and he had to go.

#87 Richard on 11.03.20 at 5:25 pm

What a novel concept a politician doing what he
promised the people who voted for him.

#88 Dogman01 on 11.03.20 at 5:34 pm

If Trump wins – there will be riots

If it is close and it looks like Trump might win – there will be riots

If Biden wins – there will not be riots

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From that if you use logic it is pretty clear which side the Rioters are from.

#89 Faron on 11.03.20 at 5:35 pm

#83 joblo on 11.03.20 at 5:14 pm

Kanada is completely irrelevant, inconsequential, insignificant, of no matter/moment, of little account, trivial, negligible, minor, trifling, petty, superficial to the REAL world!

Yet Kanadian Komrades continue to think someone cares.

I beg to differ. There about 35million people to whom Canada is a huge deal. To some it’s a lifeline.

#90 Stone on 11.03.20 at 5:36 pm

#70 Apocalypse2020 on 11.03.20 at 4:18 pm
GLOBAL CATASTROPHE BEGINS TOMORROW!

PREPARE.

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Hooray! Can’t come fast enough. Oh, hold on. I just received another dividend. Love you dividends!

#91 Stone on 11.03.20 at 5:37 pm

#84 joe on 11.03.20 at 5:22 pm
Trump in a landslide with no help from you and your sleazy friends in the media

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Dream on, puffball.

#92 Dee on 11.03.20 at 5:45 pm

Great post Garth! It’s nice you explain to the “SHEEPLE” in Canada what democracy is supposed to be! Too bad so many Canadians are clueless.

#93 Reximus on 11.03.20 at 5:47 pm

whether you trust polls or not…when the voter participation rate goes up, the closer the polls are to final result, and this election will be the highest participation rate ever.

#94 under the radar on 11.03.20 at 5:48 pm

Lets see, you can win the popular vote by millions of votes in the USA and still lose the election.

#95 The Wet One on 11.03.20 at 5:48 pm

Garth,

You ignore the fact that a great many Americans were denied the vote and that tremendous effort was put forth to deny them the vote and this has always been the case in America.

Also, if Trump has his way, a whole lot of votes simply won’t be counted and will be thrown out.

That’s America as well and you’re being disingenuous by ignoring these facts in your comparison.

I guess if you want to call that “democracy” go ahead. I expect better myself.

I’d also prefer a parliament that was full of people like yourself (which is possible in our system, see the UK’s parliament), but yeah, doesn’t exit here.

Our system is far from perfect.

#96 Shawn on 11.03.20 at 5:48 pm

I agree 100%.

#97 Sydneysider on 11.03.20 at 5:52 pm

“But one thing is for sure. Americans were allowed to vote for their leader.”

Voters express their preference for one candidate or the other, but the electoral college does the actual voting for president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

#98 binky barnes on 11.03.20 at 5:56 pm

All I know is that our ‘flawed’ system helped install a once-in-a-lifetime politician into Office…..Mr. Justin Trudeau. I sleep well knowing that he has his able and manly hands on the wheel, expertly guiding our nation through these troubled times. Thank you Prime Minister Trudeau.

BB

#99 Blof Witzer The Stitatation Closet on 11.03.20 at 5:57 pm

But Trudeau promised to fix that first past the post issue. Oh yeah then there was that study that said he wouldn’t win again with a fairer system. Maybe what some of what you wrote explains the, in my opinion, low caliber of people running. Maybe I’m wrong but I had a higher opinion of politicians of days long gone.
I hope the polls in the US are right, re-electing the orange fool is bad not just for them but the rest of the planet also. Biden is far from ideal but I hope he gets about 400 electoral votes so the clown and his shady lawyers have to slink away.

#100 cramar on 11.03.20 at 5:57 pm

#20 No Envy on 11.03.20 at 2:05 pm

Sorry, but why would I envy the American System, where the electoral college and gerrymandering skew the results?

Hillary won by popular vote, but Trump got elected. Al Gore vs Bush was decided by the Supreme Court. Doesn’t sound like a good system to me.
Canada’s system is not perfect either, but let’s not pretend that US is better in this aspect. It’s not.

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Great points. Add to that voter intimidation and suppression going back to the beginning. Plus someone said on TV the other day, that “America is billed as the greatest example of democracy the world has seen, but show me any other advanced democracy where people have to stand in line for many hours to vote?” Eleven hours is ludicrous!

US election 2020: World reaction to long queues of voters in US

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54532189

At least in Canada we do not have to board up our cities, nor put a steel fence around 24 Sussex Drive on Election Day!

#101 MF on 11.03.20 at 5:59 pm

All I hear is Americans complain about is their 2 party system. It’s a system that fosters an “us versus them” mentality, and leaves voters with few options other than two often extreme views.

People can say what they want but at least in Canada we get varying degrees of healthier centrism.

I don’t have any personal experience of course, but I disagree that the American system is “healthier”. Doesn’t look like it.

MF

#102 IHCTD9 on 11.03.20 at 6:02 pm

Mr T, your tenure as a politician undoubtedly assists you as a businessman these days. I like a guy who is not full of $hit, as do most folks.

The bunker is packed full, a startling mosaic of silver Mylar and brass casings, subtly contrasted by the flat black of AR-15’s. Dozers are parked “shovels out”, and the Griz is faced nose to the wind.

My gut tells me the US is in for a rough ride tonight, so I made sure I got more ordinance than they do. I’ll bet ‘ol smoky will be looking down with interest tonight. He’s welcome to stop by the bunker for some refreshments, we got more than just ammo stashed away.

#103 Nonplused on 11.03.20 at 6:03 pm

Funny to think that Trump got more of the popular vote than Trudeau did, but Trudeau was able to cancel parliament but Trump couldn’t cancel congress. Which country has the dictator?

Anyway I expect the comments to be numerous tonight and tomorrow. Maybe new records.

Most of them will be apologies from people who had previously used their special insights (including myself) to forecast the results. At least half of us will be proven wrong.

IMHO the race is too close to call. For every poll that says Biden in a landslide there is a counter-poll that says Trump in a landslide and it all comes down a few percentage points in a few states. Some of them are closer than the margin of error meaning using them to forecast is pointless.

If Biden does pull it off it will be truly amazing. His campaign has had no life, with handfuls of people showing up at his rallies. Trump recently had one with 58,000 people in attendance. That is how you do it.

But this election isn’t Trump vs. Biden it is Trump vs. Not Trump, so anything is possible. But I still say nobody who voted Trump last time is voting Biden this time and nobody that voted Hillary last time is voting Trump this time. So it is all going to come down to people who didn’t vote last time. Therefore my call remains Biden wins the popular vote but Trump wins the electoral college.

I think the republicans will also maintain their majority in the senate and may surprise in the house. That whole impeachment thing made a lot of people sick to their stomach and it may cost the dems some seats.

But as fun as all this forecasting is I have no special insight into an election where the pollsters can’t even agree.

And the videos of a boarded up Washington are truly disturbing. I don’t think that is going to turn out to be a good idea. Plywood burns.

#104 jess on 11.03.20 at 6:06 pm

Here’s what you need to know right now:

The FBI is looking into a spate of mysterious robocalls

The robocalls are urging people to stay home on Election Day as the nation remains on high alert to ensure voting is not compromised, a Department of Homeland Security official said Tuesday. U.S. state and local officials have been raising the alarm over at least two separate automated call campaigns as million of Americans cast their votes on Tuesday. Experts who spoke to Reuters say they are mystified by one of the campaigns, which tells people to remain home but does not explicitly mention voting. Audio of the calls, which RoboKiller shared with Reuters, features a synthetic female voice saying: “Hello. This is just a test call. Time to stay home. Stay safe and stay home.” The call had been placed millions of times in the past 11 months or so but had on Tuesday shot up to No. 5 or No. 6 in the list of top spam calls, said Giulia Porter, vice president at RoboKiller, a company that fights telemarketers and robocalls and has been tracking the campaign.

#105 KLNR on 11.03.20 at 6:09 pm

@#73 Canada TRUMP fan! on 11.03.20 at 4:33 pm
I hope trump gets in. Who wants a bunch of democrats/liberals in. Ugh. Biden will try and do a lockdown (good luck). He will be horrible for the oil and gas industries. Prosperity of Canada matters! We don’t need anti oil/resource dictators running usa and Canada. Biden and his group are also power trip war mongers.
If Biden gets it- let’s see what kind of crap he stirs up with China Russia Syria and so on. You will all wish trump was president. Media is rotten to the core. Clinton/Soros all special interests control Biden.
I’m a Canadian nationalist I stand with trump who wants to protect his country. America is not for sale like Canada is. You liberals are mental cases

Soros? lmao.
gonna be fun reading comments like this tonight.
Wonder when the first Qanon/antifa conspiracy theorist logs on.

#106 Nonplused on 11.03.20 at 6:20 pm

#20 No Envy on 11.03.20 at 2:05 pm
Sorry, but why would I envy the American System, where the electoral college and gerrymandering skew the results?

Hillary won by popular vote, but Trump got elected. Al Gore vs Bush was decided by the Supreme Court. Doesn’t sound like a good system to me.

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The electoral college was designed specifically so that the president would not be elected by popular vote alone. The makeup of congress reflects the same thinking. The house is the only popular vote of the the three.

That is why the US is referred to as a “republic” not a “democracy”. It was necessary to get smaller less populous states to join. Otherwise it was clear that the east coast states would do all the electing and the smaller states would effectively have no say. Why would they agree to that?

And from the perspective of Alberta right now it doesn’t seem like it was a bad idea.

#107 IHCTD9 on 11.03.20 at 6:23 pm

#81 NoName on 11.03.20 at 5:09 pm
So in anticipation of election results and solidarity to ruller i prepared two bottles, and depending who wins appropriate colour bottle will be open.

I do prefer fast acting peptobismo, but it extra strength alkaseltzer or gaviscon will do, but that depends on who is a viner…
— —-

This is good!

I have one bottle that is going to lose some weight even if no winner at all is declared tonight. Fast acting white Rum – well, at least the way I drink it. I got no worries with the firepower I’m packing these days. Maybe when Ms. IH gets home from work, we’ll fire up Crave and continue our glacial pace through the Game of Thrones series. Tomorrow I’ll get up, and see how long I can go blissfully ignorant of who prevailed the night before.

#108 Jimmy Zhao on 11.03.20 at 6:34 pm

Trudeau is only the frontman for the people who are really in charge.

I really doubt this silver spoon Mr. Dressup frat boy has the intellect to be leading this country.

#109 David Hawke on 11.03.20 at 6:39 pm

The outdated Canadian system sure needs to change before Trudeau proclaims himself DICTATOR for life!

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-military-to-establish-new-organization-to-use-propaganda-other-techniques-to-influence-canadians/wcm/e9ac3abb-0674-4443-a99c-9c17a3673b79/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

#110 IHCTD9 on 11.03.20 at 6:41 pm

#49 KLNR on 11.03.20 at 3:21 pm
@#20 No Envy on 11.03.20 at 2:05 pm
Sorry, but why would I envy the American System, where the electoral college and gerrymandering skew the results?

Hillary won by popular vote, but Trump got elected. Al Gore vs Bush was decided by the Supreme Court. Doesn’t sound like a good system to me.

Canada’s system is not perfect either, but let’s not pretend that US is better in this aspect. It’s not.

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well put.
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Not really.

Who won the Canadian Federal popular vote in 2019?

Who got elected?

Who is damn glad he did not keep his promise to abolish FPTP like he said he would in 2015?

#111 Bill on 11.03.20 at 6:41 pm

#83 joblo on 11.03.20 at 5:14 pm
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Really? I’ve been all over the world and a lot of people think Kanada is #1 and many are busting ass to come here.
Go figure….The only thing that sucks here is the gov. Thanks for trying I guess Garth. Corp bribes, buddy up contracts and ripoffs rule the day. WE SNC Bombardier ect.

Well I searched and searched for any relevant content from Biden and his road trip. Crickets..
I watched live on Youboob Trumps many rally’s with 20,000 to god knows maybe up to 40,000 people cheering with Trump just killing it. Nothing on any news channel of this.
I wouldn’t trust the poles for love nor money.

#112 G on 11.03.20 at 6:56 pm

For the moment at least Canadian are still allowed to vote using paper ballots that are counted by hand for the Federal election.

Local elections they are using counting machines, to try and condition you to believing they are safe to use.
They are not. Be vigilant so we don’t lose it federally.

Whom ever you like, if the vote can be manipulated by out side writing code, what will be the point in voting at all. Control of mass media by a few is an issue to. But whom ever controls the vote count …

Millie’s report touched on the vote counting machine issue further in. I hope everyone is paying attention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr8xXr5iZG4

#113 not 1st on 11.03.20 at 6:59 pm

You forgot to mention that Americans get to vote on dozens of propositions on the ballots. They get referendums on all sorts of issues and the outcomes are respected.

Here we get force fed the agenda based on a thin argument of a mandate. No say for 4 yrs.

#114 HoBikhat on 11.03.20 at 7:01 pm

It has to be Mr. Trump in a landslide, otherwise the lights go out in the Western world and the globalist, technocracy rules us all.

As for who I’ll vote for in Canada, I did vote for Mr. Turner in my riding and was dismayed when Harper tossed him from the party. With Ford’s recent habit of tossing those who question him in public like Mr. Hillier or Mrs. Karaholios, I can only say Mr. Turner was ahead of his time.

I am debt free in the 905, own an overpriced particle board palace that I will sell in the next few years for a stupid profit and retreat into the wilderness to join those who pay no taxes. My spouse will not leave Canada, and I refuse to keep working paying sky high taxes to support globalist policies, while everyday Canadians don’t have clean water or access to timely healthcare.

I love this country, but there’s no political party working to promote Canada and working to protect Canadian values that can get elected and make a difference. Those PPC people are so purist, they’ll likely never elect more than a candidate or two, so what’s the point of voting for them? Mr. Trump took over the Republicans; we need some one to take over the Canadian conservative parties and make them Canadian again.

I hate that fiscally it’s better in Canada to just join the ranks of those who are a drain on the system. Successive governments continue to punish me financially for being a high earner, saving, sacrificing and doing the right thing. There’s no point in trying to get ahead in Canada. The government will just take the fruits of your labour and call you a racist if you question them.

#115 COW MAN on 11.03.20 at 7:02 pm

I can see why people living in the GTA would hate living under the Electoral College designed system her in Canada. If however you live any where else in Canada, an Electoral College type system, would then make you feel as though your vote actually counts. If a party sweeps the GTA then how the rest of Canada votes is almost not relevant. The Electoral College was mandated so that all of the country has a say in who runs the USA. The Canadian Senate was the counter balance in our system that has unfortunately been neutered.

#116 Dwight Botnen on 11.03.20 at 7:03 pm

“They can vote for their leader.” No they can’t because the popular vote means nothing. They’re actually voting for electoral college votes which do NOT have to be appointed according to how the state votes. Each state can ignore the popular vote and appoint electors according to the whim of the state legislature. It’s not written down and therefore it’s kind of an honor system which completely fails when you have a president with no honor. Notice I didn’t use his name.

#117 East Coast Life Style on 11.03.20 at 7:03 pm

#79 Diamond Dog

You’re a perfect example of someone who doesn’t realize that they are living within the Google Echo Chamber. I humbly.suggest you watch the documentary “The Creepy Line”, then think about how it is that you take in information. Then check out a channel on YT called Rebel Wisdom for a their Sensemaking series.

Or not, it’s up to you.

#118 Jimmy on 11.03.20 at 7:13 pm

Cheers to an excellent post by our gracious host.

#119 Drew on 11.03.20 at 7:21 pm

Political parties are the biggest problem with politics as far as I’m concerned. Every MP is a mindless vote for a faction. Prime Ministers and Presidents should have less powers not more, and party leaders shouldn’t even exist.

#120 Ponzius Pilatus on 11.03.20 at 7:23 pm

Garth, thanks for your service to the country and for supporting the cowboy boots industry.
Love the poster.
James Dean had nothing on you.

#121 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.03.20 at 7:27 pm

An excellent summation of the differences between the Canadian and US political systems.
And I totally agree that a Canadian Prime Minister is one step behind a dictator with their absolute majority.
Not to mention their “endless” term of office.
At least a US President is only allowed two terms ( I’m not sure we’d survive a 2nd Trump term).
Canadian PM’s can go on and on and on.

However.
My cynical side also might suggest that BOTH systems have become prostitutes to big money.
Lobbyists make PM’s and Presidents dance on the marionette strings.

Its time to ban lobbying.
It has corrupted democracy

#122 Tanya Green on 11.03.20 at 7:28 pm

US interest rates are rising again, those longer term bond ETF’s, bond funds are getting clobbered down 7% to 10% from just 3 months ago 5yr 0.42%, 7yr 0.69%, 10yr 0.94%, 20yr 1.52%, 30yr 1.75%.

Interest rates are going up as mortgage rates too in coming weeks, months.

#123 Shirl Clarts on 11.03.20 at 7:31 pm

#92 Dee on 11.03.20 at 5:45 pm
Great post Garth! It’s nice you explain to the “SHEEPLE” in Canada what democracy is supposed to be! Too bad so many Canadians are clueless.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You mean powerless, right Dee? If you have ideas on how to change the political landscape here in Canada, please, let’s hear them!

#124 Barb on 11.03.20 at 7:31 pm

“…Any chance you can dust off the old debt clock and have it featured again???”
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Excellent idea.
View it in landscape vs. portrait.

#125 TurnerNation on 11.03.20 at 7:32 pm

Plot twist: the US election will become a draw; both parties will team up – as a pretext to the One World Government. It must begin somewhere, why not stop the spread of capitalism in the USA.
China and USA are top 2 economies in the world.
Which one will win out: Tecno-communism or Capitalism.
The trend is clear.

Smoking man we need your take more than ever :-(

#126 William R Drury on 11.03.20 at 7:33 pm

Totally agree. Trudeau was going to change the electoral system then said “I decided ” and kept the exisating system when he realized how it benefited him. Yes the conservatives got more votes 34% but who cares. The liberals would not even reconize them. They were not helpful and would not be asked their opinion. The CBC is so in the liberl back pocket it’s china.
Regards
Bob Drury

#127 Sara on 11.03.20 at 7:34 pm

#79 Diamond Dog

Interesting comment.

#128 TurnerNation on 11.03.20 at 7:35 pm

Blog dawgs are being over estimated.
More likely line:

“… my name’s been on a few court dockets. I’ve won and lost.”

#129 Gary C on 11.03.20 at 7:50 pm

Great post Garth, re the difference between the USA & Canada electoral system.
Most Canadians are not aware of it, so no need to question it, therefore it will never change.

#130 Long-Time Lurker on 11.03.20 at 7:59 pm

Garth for Prime Minister!

Save us, Garth!

(A guy can dream can’t he?)

#131 US 2020 Election on 11.03.20 at 8:00 pm

Trump 340 Biden 198

#132 Dual Citizen In Canada on 11.03.20 at 8:00 pm

Get rid of the electoral college and have the popular vote rule. An urban vote is the same as a rural vote. The federal government is responsible for treating all states equally. If not, then why call it the, “United States Of America”?

#133 the Jaguar on 11.03.20 at 8:07 pm

Going through a period of nostalgia listening to Buck Owens and the Buckaroos. Here’s a number called “Crying Time Again”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAO_ton4qXo

Tim Murtaugh on media today advising the Black vote expected to increase from 8% (2016) to 14% this time in Trumps favour. And Latino vote from 28% (2016) to as much as 40%. Imagine that kind of increase from those demographics…….
Sounds like something I might have said.

We might have to take up a collection for CEF. Buy him some balls of yarn and crochet needles or something.

What a great time to be alive.

#134 Cowboy boots ??? on 11.03.20 at 8:11 pm

Didn’t you guys from the east ever see Dayton ranch boots … preferably double soled? Made in Vancouver … East End classic … still in business. Let’s get with it …

#135 Drinking on 11.03.20 at 8:17 pm

Yep Garth and this is why this so called country will never be a country, it will and always will be 10 Provinces and 3 Territories asking as much as they can for themselves served by a Parliament that could care less for the exception of being re-elected, meaning buying votes!

What possible sane person believes that our current government has done a good job???

Can anyone imagine how powerful we could be with all that we have with a great leader who gets it???

Until the public demands changes we will continue to be a so called country of sheep!!!

#136 Longterm on 11.03.20 at 8:46 pm

I’m personally here nor there on republic vs constitutional monarchy. I think the bigger fish to fry is proportional representation. In the last election, the Conservatives campaigned against it and the Liberals for it and then Trudeau flushed the whole idea in the name of power.

As we’ve recently seen in New Zealand, PR is a viable way forward and leads to consensus building on issues rather than parties pushing their agendas as happens in both Canada and the US.

#137 Garth's Son Drake on 11.03.20 at 8:59 pm

I have the Gunlach bet on Trump.

Let’s go baby!

#138 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.03.20 at 9:02 pm

@#134 The Jag
“We might have to take up a collection for CEF. Buy him some balls of yarn and crochet needles or something.”

++++

Hahahaha
Dont you worry about me my furry feline.
I’ll enjoy reading some books and The Economist IF my predictions are wrong.

One more time.
Biden broom sweeps all away.
President Biden and his crushing victory will be all that much better when the crowd boos Trump on Jan 20th

#139 Jar good derwind on 11.03.20 at 9:34 pm

Polls? What polls? Any “poll” by CBC, MSNBC etc etc , and those others so admittedly biased aren’t good for toilet paper. What we need is law to stop politicians from bribing media and stop media from representing themselves as media when they are in fact unregistered lobbyists. I don’t have to walk into CBC headquarters with a suitcase full of cash. All I do is offer to buy ad space, and subsequently pull my ad buy if they say something I don’t like. Bribery and coercion comes in many disguises. Of course, there’s always the blatant bribery of media, like Trudeau opening paying a outrageous $600,000 million directly and crowing about it. CBC should have had journalistic scruple and refused, but after accepting an open bribe CBC is being open about being nothing even remotely resembling a “journal “ to journalism. “Polls, we don’t need no steenking polls” when cash buys political merit.

#140 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.03.20 at 9:38 pm

Tonights update on BC Money Laundering testimony.

A former casino dealer said she and her fellow dealers noticed loan sharks giving money to gamblers as early as 1997.
When they repeatedly raised their concerns with superiors that there were up to 23 known loan sharks operating in the casinos the managers said, “it was just friends giving money to friends…”
She asked who was running the Casino the gangs or the province……in 1997…….

Former Vancouver Police officer Rob Barber also testified that on his very first day in 2010 with the BC Gaming authority he got into a heated argument in the video surveillance room with staff who yelled at him when he voiced concerns of certain procedures.
He also voice his opinions that there was a lack of action on money laundering from his first day at the BCLottery Corp

From 1997 to 2010 witnesses complained about a lack of action on money laundering……

#141 KG on 11.03.20 at 9:44 pm

Good post.
Thanks for your service as a MP.

#142 KG on 11.03.20 at 9:48 pm

#131 They need a yes man.

#143 Apocalypse2020 on 11.03.20 at 9:50 pm

Things are looking awful so far.

Don’t be glued to the television. Load up your spare vehicle.

PREPARE

#144 MapleMan on 11.03.20 at 9:57 pm

“ This was not the case in America. Congress has debated virus-assistance packages hotly and intensely”

……….nice to know.
And we all know how that is working for them. HaHa.

Sometimes (especially in pandemics) you need decisive action. Not a gaggle of geese each tooting their own song.

#145 mike from mtl on 11.03.20 at 10:08 pm

#122 Tanya Green on 11.03.20 at 7:28 pm
US interest rates are rising again, those longer term bond ETF’s, bond funds are getting clobbered down
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Not sure which ones you’re referring to but the major highly traded diverse ones not really – check BND. TLT cherrypick 5 days (-0.5%) big deal.

#146 Reasonable on 11.03.20 at 10:15 pm

No greater honour than to be kicked out for doing what is right.

#147 TurnerNation on 11.03.20 at 10:17 pm

In an old folks home you might find someone to tell you about WW2. How for the five years it consumed their days, their news and maybe their lives.
Now an entire generation transfixed on CV – which is WW3. It will last until 2025.
You will not get CV. Nor will your friends or family. Spent the 1-5 hours a day you spend instead on Cancer research, prevention, exercise and eating habits. That’s going to be your and you family’s problem, statistically speaking.

#148 Tripp on 11.03.20 at 10:18 pm

Garth, this post is one of the most articulated and clear descriptions of the differences between the two systems I have ever read.

#149 Terry on 11.03.20 at 10:19 pm

Trump has got this! A decisive victory! Their system of voting and Government is better than ours.

Good job Mr Trump! Congratulations and 4 more years. God speed and God bless you!

Best regards, Terry!

#150 Nonplused on 11.03.20 at 10:28 pm

At this particular second, Biden is winning 129 to 109 whereas Trump is winning the popular vote 50.3% to 48.1%. Any Electoral college critics want to weigh in on those numbers?

#151 Garth's Son Drake on 11.03.20 at 10:35 pm

Garth, the bookies just flipped.

Trump just went from a +130 to a -250. Biden is now a +200

Let’s go baby!

#152 El presidente on 11.03.20 at 10:36 pm

got it in the bag…

#153 Dave on 11.03.20 at 10:48 pm

I am now fully prepared. I ordered another skid of freeze dried food to last me and the SO another 300 days in our secret underground bunker. I am sure that Trump will be launching the missiles any second now. I hope that the missiles that the retaliatory strike from across the pond uses a fuel with a short half life. My still is cranking out the good stuff now. Party on!

Thanks for your service Garth! Party on Garth!

#154 Midnights on 11.03.20 at 10:49 pm

ROSZA…
Lmbo…
Told you

#155 Midnights on 11.03.20 at 10:54 pm

Who cares, lol.

Let’s see, and you can win the popular vote by millions of votes in the USA and still lose the election.
Trump won and the NDP PARTY look like asses!
Fire that guy, comparing the American Public like voting in Hitler. That guy is Done in politics, plus Twitter let it through, really!!!

#156 lionsroarin64 on 11.03.20 at 10:59 pm

#27 – Alberta Ed
You kept your integrity, Garth. That’s what really counts in the end.
__________________

Ditto.

#157 Dogman01 on 11.03.20 at 11:04 pm

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/us/2020/results/

CBC showing Trump with 285 projected….

#158 TurnerNation on 11.03.20 at 11:05 pm

WW3 update. Remember the T3rror coloured alert levels?

Now our ruling elites have outlined a new control system, this is to regulate the economy. No small business may make too much money you know. Capacity must be limited.
Just 2 more weeks else we won’t overwhelm..no this is a 5-year rollout

In school recall when some kids acted up the entire class got punished with a heads-down or loss of fun? That’s live now in the New System.
Lockdowns keep us healthy. Only the State can keep you healthy. We are children now.

Simple -every time you heard C0vid think New World Order. March to Sept was the Compliance stage; Sept onwards is the Normalization stage. The CV is everywhere -like the t3rrorists! The government will protect us. The new normal, they told us so.
How many more months, years of your life are you prepared to give up for this?

https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/ontario-unveils-new-system-for-determining-covid-19-restrictions

#159 Terry on 11.03.20 at 11:18 pm

Newsmax is the best!

Terry.

#160 TRUMP2020 on 11.03.20 at 11:45 pm

I’m here.

For 4 MORE YEARS!!!!

#161 morrey on 11.03.20 at 11:50 pm

America needs a reboot. Their system is wonky.

#162 the Jaguar on 11.03.20 at 11:51 pm

@#139 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.03.20 at 9:02 pm @@#134 The Jag:
Good for you for expressing your passion on this issue and others. Your resilience is a matter of blog record as is your sense of humour. I just couldn’t resist having a little fun at your expense given the ‘gentleman’s bet’ you agreed to a post or two ago.
Perhaps a plea of temporary insanity might be raised. I might agree to be a witness for the defense.
Maybe you were slipped a ‘Mickey Finn’ when you agreed to the challenge. Or better yet, maybe your prediction will come to pass. My spider sense tells me the creek is rising against Biden. We’ll see how it all turns out in the coming days.

The Jaguar only knows it is 9:45 pm Alberta time and I want to get in at least one or two more chapters of a very interesting book on my night table which has nothing to do with the US election. I am content to review the election results south of the border in the early morning hours. The faces of the media pundits, who have detailed every fault and no accomplishment of the sitting President are looking a little ‘glum’ at the moment. Their capacity for self awareness and examination of personal beliefs versus political bias seems to have escaped them. It’s disappointing, but not a surprise. Canadian ‘Exceptionalism’ on display this evening. Not just our NPR equivalent the CBC, but all. It looks good on them. There are many things being peddled these days, but it is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye. Or so wrote Antoine de Saint-Exupéry.

And for those who appreciate the mid century modern country music of the 1960’s, I would still recommend a listen of a classic album with Buck and his Buckaroos:
‘Carnegie Hall Concert With Buck Owens and His Buckaroos.’
On April 2nd, 2014, the Library of Congress added Carnegie Hall Concert to its National Recording Registry. Its true legacy, though, is the ongoing border-shattering ascendance of country music. The fact that the genre now knows no boundaries, that its stars can sell out stadiums in every municipality in the United States and abroad, was forecast 49 years ago in this uniquely elite venue. Don Rich was killed in a motorcycle accident in July 1974.
Things were never the same after that.

#163 n1tro on 11.04.20 at 12:01 am

Listen carefully…..sounds like bubble wrap popping. Gradually increasing in frequency.

It’s the collective popping of the heads of the left.

🤯

#164 Hawk on 11.04.20 at 12:15 am

#133 Dual Citizen In Canada on 11.03.20 at 8:00 pm

==============

The founding fathers and early Americans planned the electoral college intentionally so that small states would not be swamped by by areas with high density populations.

That’s also why each every state gets two pick two senators, regardless of population size.

It is critical to the facilitation of a constitutional republic (not a “democracy”) which is what America always was.

Without power sharing large countries will never stay together, unless force is used to keep them together.

Instead of lapping up left leaning MSM garbage maybe you should put some thought into why the people that created the most successful society in the history of mankind, designed it the way it exists.

#165 Bucky on 11.04.20 at 12:18 am

At this point in the evening it appears… Trump is going to be around 4 more years. I did not expect that. Great for some junior mining stock I have, but otherwise, wow.

Weird out there people, buckle up!

#166 bullwinkle on 11.04.20 at 12:27 am

@133,

The Electoral College was originally designed to protect the urban dwellers from the tyranny of the rural folks. At that time, 90% of the U.S. population was rural.
Still works.

#167 bobbing fisher on 11.04.20 at 1:27 am

Garth

Do you and that Harper dude ever get together to play golf, go fishing, or any other bro-bonding stuff?

Just askin’ …….Teeeeehee

#168 Where's My Money Going Greedeau? on 11.04.20 at 2:02 am

Re: #57 NSNG on 11.03.20 at 3:33 pm
#136 TurnerNation on 11.03.20 at 11:24 am

The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, today announced the launch of the new Rapid Housing Initiative (RHI) that invests $1 billion to create up to 3,000 new permanent, affordable housing units across the country.

==============================

So that works out to $333,333.00 a unit?
Did the Burger Bros. of We Charity get the contract?

#169 Nonplused on 11.04.20 at 2:50 am

Well, about the only thing about this election that anybody seems to have gotten right is that we wouldn’t know the results on election night.

No blue wave.

No red wave.

Senate doesn’t look like it is changing much.

Looks like the republicans are making some gains in the house but not enough.

But what has been unprecedented is the amount of states that they won’t call.

Anyway if you go with the voting so far and extrapolate the trends, Trump wins. I guess we’ll find out tomorrow (I guess that is today), or Friday, or at some point. Not as big of a win as 2016 but a win nonetheless.

It is curious that they stopped counting votes with Biden ahead in confirmed votes but Trump predicted to win based on “to close to call” states? Maybe they are trying to delay the riots. It won’t work. Antifa will be at it at sundown.

#170 Faron on 11.04.20 at 3:00 am

S&P Futures tanked on Trump’s claimed win. +2% at one point when Biden was looking strong. Now swung down to -1% and falling. I guess the markets have TDS. Or they are rational and see a despot.

#171 Faron on 11.04.20 at 3:37 am

Futures then bounce back all the way up on??? Improving Trump chances?

#172 Steve Mequine on 11.04.20 at 4:11 am

mike from mtl, i found this at http://www.barchart.com/economy/interest-rates, 20+ year Treas Bond Ishares ETF, -7.23%, 3 month % change. Tanya Green referred to a 3 month period in her comment.

#173 bdwy sktrn on 11.04.20 at 4:26 am

Huge trump leads in swing states … so the count is stopped???

WTF!?

his lead is huge, 700k in penn, so they stopped extra early there.

why aren’t they counting where trump is leading? panic?
this is unbelievable.

trump did it again. 4 more years.

#174 Bobby on 11.04.20 at 5:56 am

@Faron, oh my you couldn’t be more wrong. Science has been politicized by the left (hard left). Watch the Bret Weinsten podcast with Rogan on the subject of what is happening in the sciences. On climate change, if a scientist has a dissenting opinion today (based on his ow her research, not politics) that even slightly differs from the UN IPCC, they are branded a “denier” (not the subtle link to Holocaust denier). We have swung so far left in North America. You can’t find a Canadian that doesn’t have negative view of the Republicans today. Same goes for Western Europe. The Left has (for the moment) triumphed…. until the mess up the economy and capitulate to the PRC.. perhaps then, if it’s not too late, we will have. pushback.

#175 Apocalypse2020 on 11.04.20 at 7:15 am

Worst outcome possible.

And it is here.

The USA will be incapacitated by discord and unrest in this uncertainty.

Guns, civil war will break out shortly.

Russia, China, NK and Iran have multi-tier plans already being deployed.

Perfect for them.

Make a plan to go north. Now.

PREPARE

#176 Dharma Bum on 11.04.20 at 7:49 am

So many Canadians are indifferent to much of this political process stuff because, we are, after all, just a bunch of rubes. Hicks. Hayseeds.

Provincial.

By the way, was that a Charlie Hebdo cartoon?

#177 Dharma Bum on 11.04.20 at 7:52 am

#173 Apocalypse 2020

Guns, civil war will break out shortly.
——————————————————————–

Yeah, darlin’, go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once and
Explode into space…

– Steppenwolf

#178 Dharma Bum on 11.04.20 at 7:59 am

#165 Bullwinkle

The Electoral College was originally designed to protect the urban dwellers from the tyranny of the rural folks. At that time, 90% of the U.S. population was rural.
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If it wasn’t for the Electoral College, this is what you’d get:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLvGnro4Cgw

#179 Dharma Bum on 11.04.20 at 8:08 am

In between tuning in to the election results, I watched a Nicholas Cage flick – y’know – to temper the situation with some sanity!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S73swRzxs8Y

#180 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.04.20 at 8:10 am

@#161 The Jag

Well no confirmed decision yet….and possibly for several weeks!
Its seems even the Gods cant do without the sound of Crowdie’s “trumpet”.

I’m actually rather shocked that almost 50% of Americans are happy to be relegated to 2nd place status in the world after Trump possibly takes control for 4 more years.
The Trump ignoramous “foreign policy” wrecking ball destroying the last vestiges of allied nations with no experienced staff left standing who are willing to work with a man that will throw anyone under the bus in a heartbeat if it makes him look better.

Or Biden wins in a few days/weeks after all the mail in ballots are checked and Trump claims conspiracy and the cities burn brightly……

Either way.

China in it’s ascendancy as America turns inward and rips itself apart.

#181 Don Lemons on 11.04.20 at 8:11 am

Thank goodness, my job is secured for four more years.

#182 the Jaguar on 11.04.20 at 8:11 am

Electoral map appears to show Biden leading in two uncalled states for 16 electoral votes ( 238+16=254) and Trump leading in 4 uncalled states for 67 electoral votes ( 213+67=280). But why did they stop counting? Given the stakes one would expect people to pull a double or even triple shift if required.

It’s the second term that is always the most interesting. The first job of an American President is to get elected for a second term. It’s after that when one can expect interesting events. Like Obama freeing the last three of the Cuban Five and enjoying a day at the ballpark in Havana sitting next to Raul Castro. Couldn’t do that in the first four years.
Interesting link here about the necessity to count every vote:

https://www.mediamatters.org/chris-wallace/foxs-chris-wallace-doesnt-push-back-after-corey-lewandowski-says-there-will-be-no

#183 George on 11.04.20 at 8:13 am

Trump going down and the markets r okay with it

:)

#184 conan on 11.04.20 at 8:16 am

I was about as wrong as anyone could be in my electrion prediction. What a disaster. The last thing the USA needed was a contested vote.

#185 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.04.20 at 8:19 am

I wonder if Trump has a comment about THIS Covid death in a tight ( every seat counts) race.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/a-north-dakota-republican-died-of-covid-19-in-october-he-still-won-his-election

#186 Lefty on 11.04.20 at 8:38 am

#168 Faron on 11.04.20 at 3:00 am

S&P Futures tanked on Trump’s claimed win.

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They’re up 2% right now. Never believe the 3:00am futures.

#187 TurnerNation on 11.04.20 at 8:55 am

Voting? All a show at this time imo. Why:
The permanent global CV rules(they never told us under what conditions we’ll go back to normal – in fact they told us from Day 1 a ‘new normal’ ) have another important purpose. That is to further destroy the ‘nuclear’ family (they blowed that up real good).
No long is the man (or women) head of the household. No the State runs the show. The State has control over your kids – covering them up, lined up 6-6-6 feet apart in the prison schools. No talking. No playing. Training to be almost compliant robots?
When the State tell you to double down on the CV protocols you do it. Watch your health soar! So healthy we are now.

#188 Ace Goodheart on 11.04.20 at 9:26 am

Looks like the nightmare election scenario is about to play out in slow motion in the USA.

Trump’s lawyers are already prepping and filing their court challenges.

This is going to get ugly.

The situation is currently deadlocked. We will not have a result for a long time. When we do, it is going to be challenged in the Courts.

This is a massive mess. If it was possible for 2020 to get any worse overall as a year, it has just happened.

#189 Wrk.dover on 11.04.20 at 9:29 am

My prediction that Susan Rice should have been the running mate, probably holds water.

#190 Wait There on 11.04.20 at 9:29 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2KEPwzIO2Q

L A N D S L I D E!

#191 Ordinary Blog Dog on 11.04.20 at 9:40 am

Very very close – the election for those who are wondering. Had snow here yesterday – inspired me to begin organizing a Nights Watch – to keep the Wildings south of the border.

#192 Sail Away on 11.04.20 at 9:50 am

#178 crowdedelevatorfartz on 11.04.20 at 8:10 am

I’m actually rather shocked that almost 50% of Americans are happy to be relegated to 2nd place status in the world after Trump possibly takes control for 4 more years.

The Trump ignoramous “foreign policy” wrecking ball destroying the last vestiges of allied nations with no experienced staff left standing who are willing to work with a man that will throw anyone under the bus in a heartbeat if it makes him look better.

—————

…or, conversely, a man who fights back against countries riding the coattails of and snickering up their sleeves at the US. Do you think the Trudeau/Macron gigglefest was somehow unique?

Don’t believe the MSM. They’re amateurs who think their feelings are more important than reality. Hence the second embarassingly partisan polling. Even worse this time. Media is running itself headlong into irrelevance.

And don’t be concerned about violent protests. The summer’s protests contributed greatly to the current Republican support and the people won’t accept more rioting. They just won’t. Watch.

And second place nothing. The US is stronger than it’s ever been. One of very few western countries where an opinion is still allowed. All innovation is congregating there. Go heavy heavy US portfolio.

#193 Squire on 11.04.20 at 9:52 am

#173 Apocalypse2020 on 11.04.20 at 7:15 am
Worst outcome possible.

And it is here.

The USA will be incapacitated by discord and unrest in this uncertainty.

Guns, civil war will break out shortly.

Russia, China, NK and Iran have multi-tier plans already being deployed.

Perfect for them.

Make a plan to go north. Now.

PREPARE
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Never bet against America. If you want to, go right ahead. I wouldn’t.
“Nothing can stop America when you get right down to it. Never bet against America,” Warren Buffett.
The media can say whatever they want and China’s attempt to manipulate millions with social media won’t work.
https://www.stripes.com/how-the-us-is-encircling-china-with-military-bases-1.236548
….and that was 2013.

#194 the jaguar on 11.04.20 at 9:57 am

Oh dear CEF. You drank the Kool-aid and you don’the even know it.

#195 Petulant on 11.04.20 at 10:53 am

Garth! You’ve come to it! You’ve arrived!

Step into the light Garth – its time to drive European Canada into the Atlantic Ocean and join the Americans in their quest for liberty and self determination!

#196 Oakville Rocks! on 11.04.20 at 11:01 am

@163

While Country Music is perhaps the one musical form I appreciate least (apart from Johnny Cash, Dwight Yoakam & Lyle Lovett) it would be hard not to acknowledge the greatness of Buck Owens and his Buckaroos and the brilliance of the Carnegie Hall recording. Good choice.

And while we are waiting for the vote counts in Pennsylvania & Michigan may I suggest another equally important Carnegie Hall recording – Harry Belafonte at Carnegie Hall. My parents used to put this record (and Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison) on for me to help me sleep while I waited for my turn at SickKids to arrive. I guess our PM is also fond of this recording.

Coincidentally, Mr Belafonte also has an op-ed in the NY Times that would be worth reading.

Biden is right – patience – let them count all votes.

And lastly, much respect to Garth always for being such a great MP for Oakville/North Burlngton/Milton and to all Americans who waited to vote yesterday.

#197 Elon Fanboy on 11.04.20 at 11:10 am

One thing from last night…the polls were garbage….again.

Some serious malarky going on in these swing states with Dem governors. They all announce they are stopping counting. Then restart, & one big vote count drop in Michigan was 120,000, every single vote went to Biden! Basically impossible.

And now Nevada has announced it’s not going to release any more counts until tomorrow! WTF is going on.

Arizona may flip back to Trump but it will be close, maybe 10k votes. Grossly irresponsible of FOX news to call AZ so early.

#198 Calgary Rip Off on 11.04.20 at 11:34 am

I disagree. The USA is a third world dump.

Health care is a disaster only good if you can afford it. The president is in for FOUR years regardless. The electoral college prevents other parties from being elected. And so much more.

I voted in 2003 by leaving the USA after the Bush illegal invasion of Iraq and his not win. Since then history has been repeated by the electoral college in 2016 when Trump won. I do not like Hillary but she won. And yet she wasnt in office.

And now we have the north american fail of Covid. Why is D3 and C as vitamins not being advocated? Lack of double blind randomized trials? Evidence based medicine is too slow. How many people have to die? There are already studies showing Vitamins C and D3 may keep you out of an ICU. And yet the deaths keep piling up.

Cant believe you envy the USA. I grew up there. It sucks there. Enjoy the cold fresh air, lack of population, clean water and everything Canada has to offer.

#199 Charity on 11.04.20 at 11:54 am

Apocalypse 2020

Still drinking my coffee this morning. No different than in 2000 Bush Gore. Take your [email protected]&$ nut BS to another platform. I’ve been in this blog since 2008. And honestly I don’t care for your mental health issues here.
Speaking for the silent majority.
God I miss Smokey’s crazyness now we just have nutbars.

M50AB

#200 Charity on 11.04.20 at 11:57 am

Apocalypse 2020

Time to go.

#misssmokey

M50AB

#201 mick McClean on 11.04.20 at 12:01 pm

Hey Diamond Dog your elitist, sexist, racist and ageist slurs are becoming tiresome. Many movers and shakers would fit your mould of uneducated white males, thinking of Richard Branson, Walt Disney, Winston Churchill, Steve Jobs was a college dropout. Truth is most people in the West have more education than at any time in history. In any event it sure looks like Trump is receiving votes from all segments.

#202 jess on 11.04.20 at 12:10 pm

so now what?

David Andahl died of covid-19 in early October, just as the coronavirus was pummeling his home state of North Dakota. But that did not keep the 55-year-old rancher from winning his race for the state House of Representatives on Tuesday.

#203 Sail Away on 11.04.20 at 12:10 pm

#199 Calgary Rip Off on 11.04.20 at 11:34 am

The USA is a third world dump.

————

That statement is demonstrably false and removes credibility for any further debate.

#204 yvr_lurker on 11.04.20 at 12:16 pm

Just let the votes all be counted. However, that will not be the end of it. There will be many challenges and legal wrangllings all the way up to supreme court to overthrow the decision if Trump is on the short end of the vote counting. His proclamation of victory last night and that the election is being stolen was outrageous.The first stage to establish an oligarchy is to have the ear of the highest court in the land. The next week will be a real test of what “democracy” means in the U.S. The serious challenge to the Texas court to throw out 127K drive in votes was a reflection of low things have become. I understand what Garth is saying about our own democratic traditions in Canada, but the situation is far worse in the U.S. There is no way I would ever live down there, and haven’t crossed that border since 2016.

#205 Faron on 11.04.20 at 12:19 pm

#198 Elon Fanboy on 11.04.20 at 11:10 am

Some serious malarky going on in these swing states with Dem governors. They all announce they are stopping counting. Then restart, & one big vote count drop in Michigan was 120,000, every single vote went to Biden! Basically impossible.

That’s a nice story to tell yourself. Too bad it’s utter bullsht. It’s been known by everyone that the mail in vote would take a long time to count and would shift blue. You have no clue how vote counting works in the US. It’s heavily monitored by all parties and very hard to “slip” in a few votes. Republicans have known that a full and clean vote would put them on the curb and have done everything quasi legal that they can to limit the vote. Spreading lies about vote dumps is just one of their tactics. Investigations into voter fraud reveal at most a few thousand fraudulent votes and the worst cases have been committed by republicans. Note that Biden is crushing in the popular vote with a bigger margin the Hillary.

Why is it that all you Elon supplicants are also Trump smoochers? Sounds like a daddy complex.

#206 Ace Goodheart on 11.04.20 at 12:29 pm

At the moment it looks like a Biden win, with 270 votes on the dot, versus 267 for Trump.

Of course, that is not going to end things. That is just the beginning.

#207 Faron on 11.04.20 at 12:29 pm

GEO group didn’t like to see a potential Biden win. Stock down 10%. Ouch.

#208 Question!! on 11.04.20 at 12:36 pm

Will Donnie leave gracefully or in a straight jacket?

kindly advise

:)

#209 Doug t on 11.04.20 at 12:44 pm

#200 charity

speak for yourself – I like Apocalypse 2020

#210 Diamond Dog on 11.04.20 at 12:45 pm

#199 Calgary Rip Off on 11.04.20 at 11:34 am

There are Vitamin D trials coming, this one in the UK with 5,000 patients:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/vitamin-d-coronavirus-covid19-trial-a4569731.html

Another Vitamin D trial coming in the U.S. with 2700 patients:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04536298

Spain is doing a follow up from a small (but randomized, double blind, in link below) with a larger 1,000 patient randomized, double blind trial:

https://www.msn.com/en-in/health/medical/vitamin-d-supplement-calcifediol-could-reduce-death-risk-in-covid-patients-spanish-study-says/ar-BB18R2ws

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/new-study-found-80-percent-of-covid-19-patients-were-vitamin-d-deficient

These trials are needed in the sense that they will give us more direct causation with Covid19 specifically, but the reality with Vitamin D is that it really isn’t telling us anything we don’t already know in general. We’ve known for decades through science, past studies and trials, the relationship between vitamin D, Rickets, arthritis, muscles and to a lesser extent its role in the formation of kidney stones but we’ve more recently known within the last 25 years or so, (or so I’ve read) its relationship with the immune system. People with a Vitamin D deficiency have a compromised immune system (lower blood cell counts, poor response to all infectious diseases in general) of which there are 30 known causes to lower than normal Vitamin D levels (obesity and NAFLD are high on the list). This surgeon below says it best in terms of surgery recovery. When your Vitamin D levels dip below 18 ng per ml in your blood, the risk of death goes up 30% for ALL causes (Covid19, pneumonia, flu, regular brain injuries, gun shot wound victims). Vitamin D was used in their hospital with excellent results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6rRtTzMsBo

All that being said, Vitamin D isn’t the only deficiency being exploited by Covid19. People deficient of Zinc will also have compromised immune systems and it’s thought that 25% of the world population is deficient. High sugar consumption is associated with Zinc deficiency and crops (like rice and grains high in phytates) grown with Glyphosate (Zinc uptake inhibitor) are known to be food sources deficient in Zinc. If I had to hazard a back of the napkin guess, I would also suggest that there is a .5% deficiency of Zinc Ionophores in the gen pop that Covid19 exploits as well. Vitamin C deficiencies are also exploited by Covid, but post infection complications only.

To make a long story short, there shouldn’t be one case of Covid19 that shouldn’t be given Vitamin D (with calcifidiol) and Zinc to shore up suspected deficiencies since Vitamin D and Zinc deficiencies are so widespread in the general public. We aren’t just talking about Covid19 here, but all forms of disease and trama related to immune system health and recovery. It’s long overdue for the practices of western medicine to come out of the dark with deficiencies not just with how patients are treated, but diagnosed.

#211 Just Ed on 11.04.20 at 12:45 pm

Trump lost Bidin won but no one in MSM wants to be the first to call it as they know what the potential consequences are…. protests, riots, civil disobedience. I think that they (MSM) are going to wait until every single last vote comes in before they declare a winner even though the know with a high certainty who the winner is.

#212 Bill on 11.04.20 at 12:54 pm

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#213 Sail Away on 11.04.20 at 1:03 pm

I’m currently staying in a friend’s cabin on the Fraser River where he also operates a business for sturgeon fishing charters and bank fishing.

His website states: “Most sturgeons are androgynous bottom-feeders, spawning upstream and feeding in river deltas and estuaries.”

That’s funny! Wonder if he meant ‘anadromous’?

#214 Diamond Dog on 11.04.20 at 1:16 pm

#202 mick McClean on 11.04.20 at 12:01 pm

Thinking of Richard Branson, Walt Disney, Winston Churchill, Steve Jobs – mick

Perhaps this chart will explain what you are missing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Educational_Attainment_in_the_United_States_2009.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States

The examples you give, Churchill and Disney grew up at a time when not many Americans received a Gr. 12 education and Jobs, while dropping out of college in his first semester, kept taking classes. Technically, he was by no means uneducated but this misses what the charts are saying above. The older voter, specifically the senior vote, well, see for yourself.

The facts remain that Trump led in only one demographic in 2020 and that’s uneducated white male voters (substantially for Trump, 68% Trump to 30% Biden. With uneducated women it was a 50/50 split) which makes up the largest demographic in North America. That’s a fact, no amount of “elitist, sexist, racist and ageist” labeling dumb speak will change that and the election results will only further flesh this out.

Hey, its really not their fault (we are born into far more than we know). Right wing media saturation has everything to do with it and from there, for the most part, we believe what we are being told (especially so when we aren’t educated and it’s socially/environmentally re-enforced).

#215 WTF on 11.04.20 at 1:21 pm

#193 Sail Away “The US is stronger than it’s ever been.”

Perhaps, Although Trump did double the debt and history suggests the USA is in decline to be supplanted by another emerging power over time.

China is playing the long game. Scares the crap out of me but western democracies need to get their act together. We are spoiled, fat, lazy, our disengaged electorate seem to be ok being bought off with our own money by intellectually lazy and weak politicians.

https://www.principles.com/the-changing-world-order/#chapter4BigCycleEmpireLife

#216 Classical Liberal Millennial on 11.04.20 at 1:55 pm

#199
” I do not like Hillary but she won. And yet she wasnt in office.”
No she did not. Educate yourself about how the electoral system works. Similarly, the Conservatives won more votes than any other party in the Canadian election of 2019, but he did not win the election and is not in office.

“Enjoy the cold fresh air, lack of population, clean water and everything Canada has to offer.”
The US has all of that. You’re very bitter, not very insightful, and the US does not miss you. I hope you’re not living here in Canada.

#217 John Doe on 11.04.20 at 2:03 pm

What I see are democrat governors, attorney general’s, polling attendants and vote counters, all taking a few days to “fix” the last 6 states for democrat Joe Biden, who is confidently claiming victory in these states.

States, Joe Biden was tailing in. However, thanks to the “miracle” of “mail out” ballots, we are told that Joe Biden has come into hundreds of thousands of votes, at the last minute.

After every other state has finished counting their votes, and Joe Biden was trailing in these six democrat states, these six are attempting to fix the vote for Joe Biden behind their closed doors.

That’s what I see.

And a recount will reaffirm their manufactured ballots.

#218 Sara on 11.04.20 at 2:08 pm

@DiamondDog #215

Yup.

#219 Diamond Dog on 11.04.20 at 2:09 pm

#185 conan on 11.04.20 at 8:16 am

Yeah…. me to. Both parties turned out and voted along the same lines. It means a continued divided nation. If Democrats hoped for a solid rebuke of Trumpism (as I did), they didn’t get it. It’s looking like Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada & Arizona will go blue and if that happens, Biden wins in a squeaker with 270 or 271 electoral college votes.

What Biden will have to work with assuming he wins… a 50/50 senate? VP vote breaks the tie, but its not Dem control assuming Dems can hit 50. To do so, they need Kelly out of Arizona (likely), Peters out of Michigan (likely), Gideon out of Maine, to do that, Susan Collins would need to have less than 50% of the vote and lose in a runoff, which is probable but from there, Dem fortunes look cloudy.

Ossoff looks like he has too much ground to make up in Georgia and Cunningham has had scandal during his election and he’s behind in NC by 100,000+ votes. Alaska is a wildcard, its a Republican state and polling isn’t recent there. There is a runoff senate race in Georgia that will be close and will likely trend Republican in a squeaker but its difficult to say. Dems need 1 more seat to make 50, will they get it? I thought Dems in congress would pick up seats, it doesn’t look good there for them either. They’ll likely still control congress, but not by much. Considering the issues reflected by politics, the U.S. is a polarized, divided nation. Voters who wished for something different didn’t get it.

#220 belly rubs on 11.04.20 at 2:13 pm

#62 FriedEggs on 11.03.20 at 3:55 pm
Voting – Heads we lose, tails they win.
“There is something behind the throne greater than the king himself.”
– Sir William Pit

…..

Plumbing. You can’t expect to rule without farmers and plumbers.

Effective lobbying means never having to say “I voted.”

#221 Diamond Dog on 11.04.20 at 2:36 pm

#217 Classical Liberal Millennial on 11.04.20 at 1:55 pm

“Enjoy the cold fresh air, lack of population, clean water and everything Canada has to offer.”
The US has all of that. – CLM

If it’s true that the U.S. has all of that, then why do we have 1/9th of the population? Populations are concentrated in cities. Are you saying more densely populated U.S. city smog is cleaner than Canadian cities? Why does the U.S. have significant state wide advisories to not eat fresh water fish?

https://fishadvisoryonline.epa.gov/Advisories.aspx

Couple this with state wants to ignore EPA guidelines with mercury as an example:

https://themercurysite.com/human-health-and-mercury/fish-consumption-advisories/

Do you care to comment further on USA “clean water”? Not that Canadian practices are any better, there just aren’t as many of us to do as much damage on an environmental scale. If you’re going to run folks down dude, you could at least try using facts to back it up.

#222 Stone on 11.04.20 at 2:43 pm

#176 Apocalypse2020 on 11.04.20 at 7:15 am
Worst outcome possible.

And it is here.

The USA will be incapacitated by discord and unrest in this uncertainty.

Guns, civil war will break out shortly.

Russia, China, NK and Iran have multi-tier plans already being deployed.

Perfect for them.

Make a plan to go north. Now.

PREPARE

———

I was at Costco today. Lots of toilet paper. Lots of paper towels. Mountains of it.

Pfffft!

#223 belly rubs on 11.04.20 at 2:50 pm

#211 Diamond Dog on 11.04.20 at 12:45 pm
#199 Calgary Rip Off on 11.04.20 at 11:34 am

There are Vitamin D trials coming, this one in the UK with 5,000 patients.

….

The cure for most ailments can be found within 500 paces in a healthy forest. Even the walk helps. The healthcare industry does not have a patent on health. Nature does. This pandemic has taught us that humans are students, not an authority.

#224 KLNR on 11.04.20 at 2:54 pm

@#218 John Doe on 11.04.20 at 2:03 pm
What I see are democrat governors, attorney general’s, polling attendants and vote counters, all taking a few days to “fix” the last 6 states for democrat Joe Biden, who is confidently claiming victory in these states.

States, Joe Biden was tailing in. However, thanks to the “miracle” of “mail out” ballots, we are told that Joe Biden has come into hundreds of thousands of votes, at the last minute.

After every other state has finished counting their votes, and Joe Biden was trailing in these six democrat states, these six are attempting to fix the vote for Joe Biden behind their closed doors.

That’s what I see.

And a recount will reaffirm their manufactured ballots.
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aw ya, never too early to cook up a conspiracy theory.

#225 Spectacle on 11.04.20 at 2:54 pm

Americans most searched, “Moving to Canada”.

Lets just tell America to come back next year :
we just took up the boat dock, and were busy getting the snowmobiles out for the winter season.

Oh, and thank you Garth ( for All You do)

#226 S on 11.04.20 at 3:07 pm

#193 Sail Away on 11.04.20 at 9:50 am

“…or, conversely, a man who fights back against countries riding the coattails of and snickering up their sleeves at the US. Do you think the Trudeau/Macron gigglefest was somehow unique? ”

Agreed 100%. Long before Trump presidency Germans’ favourite mantra that I heard repeatedly was: “Germany’s happiest day will be when the last American soldier leaver German soil”. Western Europe’s disdain for most things American was palpable. Just not the disdain for US$ or the umbrella of safety that American military provided them.

I guess they forgot why post WW2 they did not become a part of Soviet empire. They forgot about the Marshall Plan that made it possible for Western Europe to quickly rebuild and become an economic superpower.

#227 espressobob on 11.04.20 at 3:10 pm

Pushing ones envelope in life often comes with hurt and rejection. You won’t know what your made of unless you try. To bad if one can’t handle the heat of battle.

Doing anything less is a disservice to oneself and those that believe in you.

#228 Maxima on 11.04.20 at 9:19 pm

I believe Harper prorogued Parliament also for his special reasons?? Trudeau isn’t the only PM to prorogue Parliament at a certain time.

#229 Kevin on 11.05.20 at 6:06 am

JODY WR.
Applaud her morality but question her wisdom. I think the people of her riding would have loved an injection of fed money for any project they chose. Having a PM in your pocket can never be bad thing.