The resurrection

Up is down. Dogs are cats. The world is nuts.

Thus it seems when you scope out the news. The virus is gaining momentum again, the latest US job numbers are weak and Covid is ripping through the White House. Yet markets are robust, stocks are romping higher, real estate is smoking and financial investors are doin’ just fine. That Apocalypse2020 dude is hitting the bottle and has moved under a bridge. Bears have gone into early hibernation. Prophets of doom, like Bay Street’s David Rosenberg and his cash-hoarding little disciples, are zeroes again. Whadda world.

In the last three days Trump got Covid, went on oxygen and has been seriously pickled by every drug cocktail and experimental remedy going. He may be doing unbelievably well. He might be seriously ill. He is rising from the swamp. The fog of misinformation is thick. But we know this: he put Secret Service guys at risk by insisting on doing a motorcade around his hospital on Sunday. His Rose Garden event for the new SCOTUS lady turned into a superspreader moment. The list of infected keeps growing, and now includes his pneumatic press secretary. He may not be able to do the next debate. It’s probable others around him will test positive. Apparently no contact tracing is being done. No masks were worn that day. No social distancing. Trump did events after his close aide, Hope Hicks, tested positive. Every single rule was broken.

So there you go. The manly, BSD approach to pandemic management failed. Chaos has ensured. Stocks go up.

Why?

First, a weak economy, lots of new layoffs, rising infections in 22 states and Trump’s medical problems pretty much ensure more government stimulus. Markets are betting Democrats and the White House can agree on a new package worth $1.5 trillion or more. Stimulus is a surrogate for economic growth, and investors feed off it. Up she goes.

Second, the bigger the mess around the president, the more people who are infected in his inner circle and the more uncertain his recovery the more Biden pulls ahead. Especially after that graceless debate. Markets like certainty, just as they hate the unknown. A closely-contested election taking weeks or months to sort out would be a confidence-killer as money stays on the sidelines and equities drop. So a clear-cut Biden win – looking increasingly likely as the White House turns into a quarantine zone – is bullish. Up she goes.

Source: FiveThirtyEight.com

“While many market participants are fretting over uncertainty and volatility that could result from a contested U.S. election, JPMorgan said the chances of a clear election result are rising,” Bloomberg reported on Monday. “Biden’s possible victory is often associated with concerns over higher corporate taxes, however, the strategists say that in light of the economic slowdown he’s likely to instead prioritize business recovery and jobs growth.”

“A potential Biden victory is unlikely to deliver significant tax increases, with these likely to be watered down, and additionally there could be a greater stimulus focus and consumer. Biden had made his tax-hike proposals in a very different world without the virus.”

Now, let’s hear from you. It’s been a while since this pathetic blog dipped into the gene pool. How do you see some of the factors around us shaping markets, real estate and the future?

Results tomorrow. No fighting allowed.

  • The publishing period for the reader poll has expired.

About the picture: Scott writes: “My brother shot the attached image in Picton on the main drag and I thought you might like (or use) it. He is a landscaper working on a big project for a hotel. He spent some time talking to a lot of small business owners there, who all seem to be saying that C19 and the government lockdown has screwed them. They’ve all decided to see it through to the end of the season, but even with the government assistance this year, many are not coming back next year. They’re done. So unfortunate for that town.” Indeed.

 

 

194 comments ↓

#1 Gramps on 10.05.20 at 4:40 pm

President Biden gets COVID and names his wife as president.

#2 TurnerNation on 10.05.20 at 4:44 pm

What do with all those soon potentially to-be dis-used condo blocks and office blocks?
To the Camps Comrade.
Found elsewhere:

It will be a long winter in the Kamps:

https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-ZL-105-38463
Service Provider(s) for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites

— By the way when you pass on, this is how it will go in the New World order. All Compassion has been removed in the New System – as I noted in March/April.
You must follow your CV protocols. This is a global prison. Rules apply @ all times.

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1313112496316837888
“A son moves his chair next to his mother to comfort her at the funeral of her late husband, a member of staff says they’ve “been told” and asked to separate”

#3 Niagara Region on 10.05.20 at 4:46 pm

As someone who conducts surveys, I think that the survey offers too few responses to accurately capture the perspectives of readers. Also, the questions are forced-choice, meaning a participant cannot skip a question when none of the answers reflects how the participant thinks. It would be good to add “other” to the responses so that at least a participant isn’t cornered into choosing a response that he or she doesn’t agree with (e.g., the question about immigrants).

#4 conan on 10.05.20 at 4:46 pm

How much of this The Black Rock war room tasked with an unlimited budget to drive the market and make money? They are always first to act and that is a huge advantage, but it is in its essence, market manipulation.

#5 Bob on 10.05.20 at 4:48 pm

A few of these seem like false dilemmas to me.

For #2, I would really like to answer: we should reduce immigration to stabilize our population because unless we figure out how to run our economies without ever increasing numbers of people, there is no future for western civilization.

For the condo question, I’d like to answer: I wouldn’t buy a condo because I would never buy a condo. I mean, seriously, who buys these things?

#6 Joe on 10.05.20 at 4:50 pm

It’s extremely rough times And apocalyptic for the 90% of people not in the stock market. Debt. Unemployment. Small businesses shuttered. Crime going up. Mental health issues exploding. But this blog never talks about them. If only the trillions of stimulus would trickle down to them.

#7 KNOW IT ALL on 10.05.20 at 4:51 pm

The IGNORANCE is unimaginable!

https://youtu.be/3AlXOYGZWes

All those lives in jeopardy.

#8 akashic record on 10.05.20 at 4:52 pm

Missing from the poll:

Who handled more “presidential way” the personal brush with covid:

1) Trudeau
2) Trump

#9 Graeme Jukes on 10.05.20 at 4:55 pm

Re the condo question–wouldn’t buy now because of fear but AFTER the big cliff of deferrals runs over it may be time.. because eventually yes, cities will be vibrant again.

#10 I’m stupid on 10.05.20 at 4:55 pm

I highly doubt a stimulus will be passed before the election. Why would the Dems agree to one when the reps are going to try to seat a judge?

#11 SOMETHINGS UP! on 10.05.20 at 4:56 pm

“Yet markets are robust, stocks are romping higher, real estate is smoking and financial investors are doin’ just fine.” ……………..for the 1%ers.

The rest of the global population is suffering.

#12 Danger Dan on 10.05.20 at 4:58 pm

With low rates persisting, I think people will continue shoveling money into real estate. As long as people view rent as “throwing money away”, they will think it more wise to leverage up and “build equity” while swallowing the interest as a cost of business.

For each of us that learn here there are still those who keep sending in blog fodder pleading for the justification to do what they really, really want to (buy a house) knowing that it could be a losing scenario.

It’s funny how people are so proud to be associated with fools. Greater fool, Motley fool… slap FOOL on a brand name and people will love it.

Here’s a product idea that’s sure to win: FOOL GRUEL, the low-budget meal replacement for those that can’t afford real food after servicing their debts.

#13 Billy Buoy on 10.05.20 at 5:03 pm

Without Stimulus we are nothing and it only helps the top 10% of the population.

Condos suck and “I would NEVER buy one” says a friend who has managed Condos for over 20 years.

Long rope and pitchforks when the Central Bankers game finally catches up to them in the year 2035.

#14 Jimmy Zhao on 10.05.20 at 5:05 pm

Well, trump getting the Wuhan Flu was a big nothingburger. He’s back !

God Bless America.

#15 Dolce Vita on 10.05.20 at 5:05 pm

You should have added a question in there for MILLENIAL SURREALIST or whatever the name:

(8) The Throne Speech changed EVERYTHING, I MEAN EVERYTHING…Canada is the new Utopia, Boomers were smited and, and,…

☐ I was a dumbass to believe politicians.
☐ I was an even BIGGER dumbass to believe politicians.
☐ I was the BIGGEST dumbass to believe politicians because money grows on trees and they just DON’T GET IT.
☐ I’m moving to Sweden.

#16 Billy Buoy on 10.05.20 at 5:06 pm

Joe # 6:

It’s extremely rough times And apocalyptic for the 90% of people not in the stock market. Debt. Unemployment. Small businesses shuttered. Crime going up. Mental health issues exploding. But this blog never talks about them. If only the trillions of stimulus would trickle down to them.

______ _______ _________ _________

That would mean putting all people’s lives over money for the few.

This is a financial blog dammit. Best to find a human decency blog elsewhere.

#17 The Woosh on 10.05.20 at 5:06 pm

#3 Niagara Region on 10.05.20 at 4:46 pm
As someone who conducts surveys, I think that the survey offers too few responses to accurately capture the perspectives of readers. Also, the questions are forced-choice, meaning a participant cannot skip a question when none of the answers reflects how the participant thinks. It would be good to add “other” to the responses so that at least a participant isn’t cornered into choosing a response that he or she doesn’t agree with (e.g., the question about immigrants).

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Agreed. Blog posts good. Surveys written by Garth not so good. I gave up at the second question. Stick to entertaining blog posts…that’s where the money is…literally.

#18 Long-Time Lurker on 10.05.20 at 5:09 pm

From what I’ve been hearing in the news (for who knows how long) I’m thinking about starting up a new media outlet: The Daily Outrage.

#19 jerry on 10.05.20 at 5:12 pm

The biased role of the media and the biased journalistic rigour was laid bare by of all people “Joe Scarborough” of MSNBC Morning Joe. On the morning after the 2016 election he acknowledged just how irresponsibly manipulating the liberal media was in favour of the Democrats. Equally is Fox news for Republicans. Either source plays to your own bias. Biden’s lead in the polls today are as dubious as Clinton’ leads in 2016. Then look what happened.

We will know when we know. But you just can’t get excited by what Wolf Blizer tells you.

#20 wallflower on 10.05.20 at 5:16 pm

#5 Bob on 10.05.20 at 4:48 pm
You should know…. the only thing keeping many of us sane this year was the fact that we live in a condo.
We have so many immediate neighbours (many of whom have become friends in 2 short years of living here) who are all so helpful. In this fabulous low rise, many of us are 50s 60s 70s. Retirement now or soon. We can sit on our decks and chat for hours. We walk around and talk to deck sitting friends. We have grouped outside for wine and beer events. We can pick up things for others. Frankly, I would be crazy right now, as a single, if I had been living in an SFH anywhere.

#21 crowdedelevatorfartz on 10.05.20 at 5:16 pm

So.
I went to a large company today to look at a job to quote.
The gal behind the desk was struggling a bit as it was her first day back in 6 months due to CERB/EI/Covid.
She was glad to be back to work.
She needed to see my ID to program a security ID card.
I held up my license and showed it to her htrough the glass.
She reached out and grabbed it……looked at my name, placed my license in her mouth and proceeded to type out the info…………
I was glad to be wearing gloves when she handed it back……..
It take a lot to shock Fartzy….but that did it.

#22 Looking on 10.05.20 at 5:17 pm

Those fools at Capital Economics are priceless. 3 years ago they predicted a 30% drop in real estate. At the beginning of the Covid epidemic they predicted an 8% drop. Now they’ve revised their forecast to an 8 % gain in Canadian real estate prices by 2022.

I guess they figured if you can’t beat them join them.

#23 Doug t on 10.05.20 at 5:19 pm

Which do think is more likely to happen in 2021?

A. The four horsemen of the Apocalypse arrive
B. Sasquatch is finally proven to exist
C. Alien overlords land on the White House lawn
D. T2 identifies as a he/she/they/them/?

#24 Bill zufelt on 10.05.20 at 5:22 pm

The Dow has gone up over 56% in the 4 year Trump term,people have had jobs ….and lots of entertainment to boot.What will the media talk about if Trump loses?Trump will win again just like he did against Hillary.Biden is no Trump and besides that is not enough reason to vote for the guy anyway.

During Obama’s term the market gained 118%, and that included the credit crisis. – Garth

#25 Squire on 10.05.20 at 5:23 pm

#7 KNOW IT ALL on 10.05.20 at 4:51 pm
The IGNORANCE is unimaginable!

https://youtu.be/3AlXOYGZWes

All those lives in jeopardy.
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So all those BLM, riots and ANTIFA protests didn’t endanger anyone ?
The IGNORANCE is unimaginable!

#26 Kate Hansford on 10.05.20 at 5:23 pm

Garth, is a rise in US treasuries most in the 7, 10, 20, 30 year maturities to 0.55%, 0.78%, 1.35%, 1.59% just a blip or will they continue rising. Is this just a dead cat bounce in rates.

JP Morgan is projecting a steady grind higher in rates as markets adapt to a new political reality. – Garth

#27 N on 10.05.20 at 5:26 pm

Not reported in Canadian media.
In the midst of the 2nd COVID wave Canada is REOPENING THE BORDERS* to International students including from the US, India and all other countries effective October 20.

Are we in a circus?

https://mobile.twitter.com/inklessPW/status/1313167207543832578

#28 BlogDog123 on 10.05.20 at 5:29 pm

My prediction:

1. Things settle to normal in about 2 years.
2. USA’s America first policies continue, even under Biden. This continues the H1-B visa limits on immigration.
3. H1-B visa limits means more technology jobs come to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver areas. Mainly Toronto. Instead of USA.
4. GTA area housing prices inflate or stabilize for a while more, while we try to figure out where to house these fine talented, payroll-tax-paying folks who immigrate from India, China, Iran, etc…

Those immigrants often are doing the jobs our young adults are not interested in doing.

#29 Squire on 10.05.20 at 5:32 pm

#23 Doug t on 10.05.20 at 5:19 pm
Which do think is more likely to happen in 2021?

A. The four horsemen of the Apocalypse arrive
B. Sasquatch is finally proven to exist
C. Alien overlords land on the White House lawn
D. T2 identifies as a he/she/they/them/?

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Ha ha….. i say “D” all the way

#30 Northshore guy on 10.05.20 at 5:32 pm

We are expected to be in office next year summer. But yes, prior to Covid we had to fight for 1 day wfh per week and now it is agreed that showing up in office 3 days a week post Covid will be new normal. And people like me who work with remotes teams in US will be fine with even less.
I do miss my office and so that will be the best of both worlds.
And yet, I will live no more than 15kms away from office. Can’t understand people buying house 100kms away.

#31 Toronto_CA on 10.05.20 at 5:42 pm

“Markets like uncertainty, just as they hate the unknown. ”
Think this is a type, should be “Markets like certainty, just as they hate the unknown.”

Can I be a Blogdog editor for free?

Anyway, the question on WFH’s option of a hybrid has been confirmed at my place of work and many others I know. The 5 day a week in the office is over for most of us, unless your work requires you to phyiscally be there to do your job or you want to work from the office.

A year of WFH cannot be undone; just like a week-long tube strike in London a few years back lead to a permanent increase in WFH numbers. Once the smoke is out of the bottle, it’s hard to put it back in.

#32 TurnerNation on 10.05.20 at 5:43 pm

The Business of Sports (The domain of the new guys on the weekend blogs)

Incrementalism. Our way of live. Bye-bye.

https://news.yahoo.com/game-1-nba-finals-lakers-heat-ratings-low-abc-225636681.html
“Game 1 of NBA Finals sees lowest viewership in recorded ratings history”

…….

Watch this story unfold:

“#113 TurnerNation on 09.08.20 at 9:17 am
no but the guy making the New System leak/info in late 60’s that soccer would be only permitted sport [In the New System] might be on to something. ..

6 months in and:
– CFL football league is cancelled.
– Toronto Blue Jays baseball team banned from the country.
– NBA player staged a work stoppage”

#33 Stone on 10.05.20 at 5:43 pm

#28 BlogDog123 on 10.05.20 at 5:29 pm
My prediction:

1. Things settle to normal in about 2 years.
2. USA’s America first policies continue, even under Biden. This continues the H1-B visa limits on immigration.
3. H1-B visa limits means more technology jobs come to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver areas. Mainly Toronto. Instead of USA.
4. GTA area housing prices inflate or stabilize for a while more, while we try to figure out where to house these fine talented, payroll-tax-paying folks who immigrate from India, China, Iran, etc…

Those immigrants often are doing the jobs our young adults are not interested in doing.

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Jobs our young adults are not interested in doing?

You mean STEM jobs?

#34 earthboundmisfit on 10.05.20 at 5:49 pm

Condo? Never, ever, ever …. come hell or high water.

#35 Dogman01 on 10.05.20 at 5:52 pm

Green agenda

For years I have been uncomfortable with the Climate Change cause, seeming designed so:
“when you ask ’em, “How much should we give? – Ooh, they only answer “More! More! More!”

It is a nebulous problem with nebulous costly solutions using emotion and children with no concrete do-able solutions and no metrics on the impact of a solution.

Also the “Watermelon” phrase can be used, as scratch the green surface and you get a host of social causes added to the agenda using the Polar Bears plight tugging at our heart strings.
See Question 2 and the answer at 1:10 Min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-wAxnAG54U

Should our surplus resource available for good works be piled into a nebulous and never ending pit?

How to make the world better. Really. With Dr. Bjorn Lomborg – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prrbooi9PNw

If you want to do good intelligently and carefully, not in ideologically self-serving manner and not wasting resources, not fads and fashions (cute animals and crying babies) and hidden agendas.

Go with the best idea we have! ; One-page overview of rank-ordered developmental goals: https://bit.ly/2QEVQjz
https://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/post-2015-consensus/economist

#36 Silent (mostly) Observer on 10.05.20 at 5:53 pm

#24 Bill zufelt “What will the media talk about if Trump loses?”

Oh, I don’t know. Maybe what Trump’s next court date will bring. Maybe what Melania is doing since she left Donald? I think there will be so much to talk about for years.

#37 Bill zufelt on 10.05.20 at 5:53 pm

Garth

Obama’s term hardly included the credit crisis(as far as markets are concerned)having dropped from over 14,000 to 7900 when he took office.The market hit 17000 by the time he left but only after crashing from 14000 so it kind of skews it,don’t you think?

#38 Apocalypse2020 on 10.05.20 at 5:53 pm

Trump – is he Covid-free or in delusional denial?

Russia, China, Iran and North Korea are already placing their bets. With a shotgun clause.

Anything can happen, any day now.

PREPARE

#39 EG on 10.05.20 at 5:55 pm

You were right about the cruise ship business . The ship breakers are already busy taking apart cruise ships . Incredible. Never bet against Garth and crew .

#40 Diamond Dog on 10.05.20 at 5:56 pm

#166 Nixter on 10.05.20 at 3:15 pm

What’s relevant are how many in hospital, ICU, and ICU on Vent Number of positive tests from lame MSM pfft. – Nixter

Try this site:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102

1862 new Canadian cases today, I think that’s the highest daily since the pandemic began. Ontario had its highest daily on Oct. 3rd. Quebec had it’s highest daily today with 1,191 new cases. Square these numbers with these nations in the Pac Rim. Japan, South Korea, China, Singapore, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand… Quebec will have had more cases today than these nations combined. It’s not like this virus can’t be put in it’s place.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The difference is experience (China, South Korea, Singapore, Japan, Taiwan, all went through this with SARS and learned from it). North America was flat footed early on because of a world wide shortage of masks and PPE initially. It has since then become badly politicized (and shortages badly handled). The Republican leadership (Trump) has polarized the response of wearing a mask to one of infringement on people’s freedom and liberty. It’s become “unpatriotic” to wear a mask within the Republican base.

Look at the way the WH is handling the president infected with Covid19 even now. Most officials still not wearing masks publicly today. No contact tracing of infected WH personnel and media. (true story) Trump still downplaying this virus. If this ideology becomes entrenched in Canada in left/right political theater, it will be economic poison just as it has been in the U.S. . Its no small wonder why GS said it would upgrade its GDP outlook if there was a blue wave. The correct response to this pandemic is vital to economic recovery:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/05/goldman-says-it-would-upgrade-its-economic-forecasts-if-theres-a-blue-wave.html

There’s more to it, of course. Corporate tax rates rising to 28% from 21% presently. Big changes in energy policy from fossil fuels to green tech. The Biden plan should be analyzed on this site before the election but overshadowing all of it is this pandemic response. if government gets it wrong, they are tax and spenders, everyone pays.

#41 EG on 10.05.20 at 5:57 pm

Predictions are very hard , specially about the future .

#42 Not A Condo Buyer (Yet) on 10.05.20 at 5:58 pm

Your condo buying question assumes that there is value in the current market. Prices in the Vancouver area, where I live, are bananas priced and need to fall precipitously to get to value where there an investment makes sense. If that happens, and you can get to cash-flow positive on something like that, sure, I’d consider buying because I agree with the premise that eventually, COVID-19 will dissipate, just like plagues did before. It’s just a question of time, timing, and pricing. Current valuations aren’t connected to cost of living and at least in Vancouver, need to get seriously adjusted to become truly a buying opportunity.

#43 ElGatoNerodeYVR on 10.05.20 at 5:59 pm

The main issue with condos is the systemic one of condo insurance. I believe that the well publicized outrageous increases due to the lack of enforcement on getting the repairs done and again the lack of enforcement against AirBnB has caused more damage to prices rather then the virus.
I hate to say it but neither will get solved unless the government steps in.

Another thing to mention that will evetually(1-2 years) stabilize the uptrend of the ownership market is the continuous idiotic move towards more tenants rights and zero protection for landlords . That will initially cause a drop in condo prices as amateur landlords give up followed by a rush to buy that will eventually increase prices and make rental stock even lower.

Not an RE agent , AirBnB or investment condo owner, just a sideline observer.

#44 willworkforpickles on 10.05.20 at 6:01 pm

…excerpt from … fly on the wall news…

dT – will you remain in hospital a little longer as a safe measure.

=Hell no, we need to get back to the orval orfice get to work and protect our phony baloney jobs.
harumph to that…
harumph harumph harumph harumph
hey wait a minute…i didn’t get a harumph outta that guy…
nevermind, he’s wearing a mask…he could be dead under that thing for all we know

(next day back in the o o)

dT we have a bill for you to sign.

=what is it

its a bill to convert the la-petamine institute for the mentally insane into the la-petamine gambling institute of the insane.

=where do i sign…give me a hand with this

and sign here and here.

=work work work work work work work…is that all you people ever think of

there…its already done.

=it is?

we moved some of your staff there already.

=you did

its a great new home for the gambling insane.

=it is?

that’s why we did it and you signed.

=you did

…excerpt from …fly on the wall news…to be continued

#45 kommykim on 10.05.20 at 6:04 pm

RE: #3 Niagara Region on 10.05.20 at 4:46 pm
As someone who conducts surveys, I think that the survey offers too few responses to accurately capture the perspectives of readers

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I agree. I found myself having to vote for options that were a bit extreme for my liking because the other options went in the wrong direction.

#46 Mattl on 10.05.20 at 6:05 pm

Jobs will continue the migration to hybrid arrangements. I say continue because wfh / hybrid has been growing at double digits the past few years. This is not a new trend, but one that was accelerated due to Covid. No reason to believe this trend does not continue once the virus takes leave when you consider how far telecommuting software has come in the past 6 months. I have been WFH for 15 years and we went from no video, to close to 50% video in the past half year and it’s been an incredible benefit to managing teams remotely.

#47 Coho on 10.05.20 at 6:12 pm

We’re talking a lot about house prices, the economy, etc in the context of Covid. Sure, finances matter and to the young, the focus and preoccupation of nabbing a property takes priority.

Unfortunately, it appears that too few are aware of the mindset of those behind world affairs. The ladder of power and influence has many steps and those in government from local politicians to Presidents and Prime Ministers are nary half way up the rungs of the ladder. This lack of awareness breeds the arrogance of ignorance. The asleep and uninformed are quick to ridicule and scoff at the notion that things are not what they appear to be.

In a world that appears to be getting darker by the day, the term “conspiracy theory” amazingly still has legs. One would think that we live in a utopia and anything whispered that was contrary to the “common consensus” reported on the national news should be taken as delusional.

Some people, rightly so, are more concerned about the usurpation of their rights and freedoms by way of Covid than its effect to their pocketbook. Yes, we all need money to survive, however, having enough of it may be more subjective to the individual’s take on what is enough. For some, there can never be enough for fear of the unknown. Yet others, with nothing or next to nothing may be more at ease than their more endowed brothers and sisters. I suppose fear plays a big role in how individuals view their situation.

One has much more of a chance to recover lost money than rights and freedoms. These are never freely given back once given up. And with modern technology, it almost feels like we are ants under the watchful eyes of countless satellites and monitoring programs. Technology is a double edged sword as it can be just as dangerous if not more so than the convenience it offers.

Currently people in general are the useful idiots in that we are still needed by the ruling elite and its masters to operate and cooperate within the architecture of oppression. When people are no longer needed to carry out surveillance and other tasks when AI/automation is developed enough to carry out the tasks then we’ll really be in for some fun. We are in danger of become the useless idiots in the coming One World Government/Great Reset.

Walk while you can. Talk while you can. Venture out while you can.

#48 FreeBird on 10.05.20 at 6:14 pm

Ironic DT was honest about infection given his record of ‘false or misleading claims‘ incl reportedly virus/pandemic related ones. It topped 20K in July. High even for politics. Given this an independently verified positive lab report for this virus as added confirmation would’ve been good. There was conflicting reports in May of DT taking hydroxychloroquine…as a precaution?

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/05/trumps-doctor-explains-why-he-is-taking-hydroxychloroquine.html

Speaking of POTUS and virus did Trudeau break border rules for wealthy donor of DT? If yes, did she self quarantine and was she first, last or only from either side?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/18/trump-donor-liz-uihlein-canada-quarantine

#49 Linda on 10.05.20 at 6:17 pm

Well, took the survey. Picked the answers closest to what I think will happen. For instance, immigration. Until Covid is licked (if that actually occurs) it would be highly irresponsible to resume that activity & not just because it would potentially permit housing prices to remain sky high. As for condos, I’d only purchase one if there was literally no other form of housing available, including rentals. It is highly unlikely such a scenario will ever occur. As for the POTUS slugfest, I do think Biden’s chances of winning have increased but I also think ‘the Donald’ will not leave the premises even if Biden wins by a landslide, so picked Biden as ‘eventually’ becoming the next POTUS. Inflation/interest rates going up? Yes, since ‘up’ is easy. All it needs do is increase by the smallest percentage & it is ‘up’ from current levels. Return to historic norms? That could take decades. Just look at Japan.

#50 Ponzius Pilatus on 10.05.20 at 6:17 pm

137 Sail Away on 10.05.20 at 10:58 am
#128 Gonkman on 10.05.20 at 9:50 am
#78 Dexamethasone High! on 10.04.20 at 6:20 pm
King Trump has arisen -JC2

Secret service take a covid bullet for the king to greet the deplorables…. are you entertained

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#86 Hey lets be even stupider! on 10.04.20 at 7:18 pm
Chief of disaster medicine at Walter Reed thinks el presidente is ….well insane!….

Hey where’s the nuke buttons!

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But… but… but…. I thought Masks Worked?

He is wearing a mask… So all good right?

Listen to the Scientists. Masks work!

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The biggest mask I’ve ever seen.
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Special order.
He’s big headed.

#51 ElGatoNerodeYVR on 10.05.20 at 6:20 pm

#33 Stone on 10.05.20 at 5:43 pm
#28 BlogDog123 on 10.05.20 at 5:29

Those immigrants often are doing the jobs our young adults are not interested in doing.
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Jobs our young adults are not interested in doing?

You mean STEM jobs?
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As an imigrant myself I guess in theory I should express politically correctly outrage at the comment however I find myself in total agreement with Stone here. Our governments have continued to import cheap labor from outside instead of forcing an internal skills training program and prioritize Canadian residents . We have so many graduates each year they should get priority over any degree and experience from outside Canada. Strong checks and balances should be placed as well on all of these programs, if no canadian resident wants to do a job then there is a good reason for it, usually not enough pay and/or poor working conditions.

#52 IHCTD9 on 10.05.20 at 6:20 pm

“Indeed”

Yep, the traffic headed down to the county has been much reduced this summer, although there were still “sandbanks full” signs on the 401. The micro breweries down there are worth the trip still though.

I say 2 years minimum before things approach normal again. Covid will still be here, but we won’t all be having spaz attacks over every new case by then.

#53 Jay on 10.05.20 at 6:23 pm

#23 Doug t on 10.05.20 at 5:19 pm
Which do think is more likely to happen in 2021?

A. The four horsemen of the Apocalypse arrive
B. Sasquatch is finally proven to exist
C. Alien overlords land on the White House lawn
D. T2 identifies as a he/she/they/them/?

_________

D. I could see Trudeau starting his transition process and show up next year as Jane Trudeau, claiming to be the first female prime minister. All in the name of virtue signaling and left votes of course.

#54 WhackoNation on 10.05.20 at 6:23 pm

#32 TurnerNation on 10.05.20 at 5:43 pm

The Business of Sports (The domain of the new guys on the weekend blogs)

Incrementalism. Our way of live. Bye-bye.

https://news.yahoo.com/game-1-nba-finals-lakers-heat-ratings-low-abc-225636681.html
“Game 1 of NBA Finals sees lowest viewership in recorded ratings history”

…….

Watch this story unfold:

“#113 TurnerNation on 09.08.20 at 9:17 am
no but the guy making the New System leak/info in late 60’s that soccer would be only permitted sport [In the New System] might be on to something. ..

6 months in and:
– CFL football league is cancelled.
– Toronto Blue Jays baseball team banned from the country.
– NBA player staged a work stoppage”
….

Yer completely nutz at the best of times… but this soccer angle, dating from the 60’s!!!… wow….. that is quite the master plan …. for a NEW WORLD ORDER… with everyone’s eyeballs pried open to watch SOCCER! so they don’t rebel.

Keep at it dude, yer clearly on top of it!

#55 Dog Breath on 10.05.20 at 6:30 pm

I want to just say a word about our wonderful, selfless teachers who have thrown themselves into the breech and gone back to work. Sure they were sitting home for six months watching cartoons on TV at full pay I might add. But now unfortunately it seems after a few weeks in the class room they are having “June tiredness” according to the Toronto Star. The poor darlings. And all they want to do is inculcate their students with social justice and cultural Marxism in between vacations, strikes and covid lock downs of course!

#56 Diamond Dog on 10.05.20 at 6:32 pm

#31 Toronto_CA on 10.05.20 at 5:42 pm

Dunno. I’ve always thought that if you give managers a path to micro manage, they will. Can’t be done unless they work in front of you. Certainly its more flexible when you can do both. We could be looking at a hybrid… that I can see but only with motivated staff that is familiar with itself. New hires can change everything with micro managing in vogue.

#57 Bill on 10.05.20 at 6:33 pm

Possible laws suit pending for the Rona Virus due to exaggeration of it and damage to the economies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr04gHbP5MQ&feature=youtu.be

#58 FreeBird on 10.05.20 at 6:34 pm

#15 Dolce Vita on 10.05.20 at 5:05 pm
☐ I’m moving to Sweden
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I’ve heard good things and it ranks 8/10 in world. Would you get implanted? Comes with t-shirt. I wouldn’t but know some who say yes. We agree to disagree and still friends. Rare these day’s.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/08/the-rise-of-microchipping-are-we-ready-for-technology-to-get-under-the-skin

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksw-arKvMPk

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/sweden

#59 dogwhistle on 10.05.20 at 6:35 pm

#3 Niagara Region on 10.05.20 at 4:46 pm
As someone who conducts surveys, I think that the survey offers too few responses to accurately capture the perspectives of readers. Also, the questions are forced-choice, meaning a participant cannot skip a question when none of the answers reflects how the participant thinks. It would be good to add “other” to the responses so that at least a participant isn’t cornered into choosing a response that he or she doesn’t agree with (e.g., the question about immigrants).

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Agree. Also where’s the question:

“If you could run for the exit and go live in the sun would you?

A: Yes

B: Yes

#60 FreeBird on 10.05.20 at 6:49 pm

Because it’s a dog blog and a lot of us could use the break …dog singing to Pavarotti.

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/W3Iidf0gpUU

#61 yorkville renter on 10.05.20 at 6:50 pm

pro tip: both amswers for #5 are correct.

#62 yorkville renter on 10.05.20 at 6:53 pm

#52…

Canada already had a female PM, Kim Campbell.
Yes, it was for just a few months, but it still happened

#63 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.05.20 at 6:57 pm

Prediction, now that covid testing to done through appointment only, cases will drop off a cliff and everyone goes back to normal finally because covid will be gone… Mission accomplished!

#64 Russ on 10.05.20 at 6:58 pm

Blog dogs,

I’ve got today’s acronym for figured out for you:
SCOTUS = sailor chick of the USA

And not restricted to US borders is:
SCOTW = sailor chick of the week
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Sailor+Chick+of+the+Week

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sailor+chick+of+the+week&atb=v202-1&iax=images&ia=images

Easy as WFH = working for husband

Yer welcome. :)

#65 IHCTD9 on 10.05.20 at 7:01 pm

#33 Stone on 10.05.20 at 5:43 pm
#28 BlogDog123 on 10.05.20 at 5:29 pm
My prediction:

1. Things settle to normal in about 2 years.
2. USA’s America first policies continue, even under Biden. This continues the H1-B visa limits on immigration.
3. H1-B visa limits means more technology jobs come to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver areas. Mainly Toronto. Instead of USA.
4. GTA area housing prices inflate or stabilize for a while more, while we try to figure out where to house these fine talented, payroll-tax-paying folks who immigrate from India, China, Iran, etc…

Those immigrants often are doing the jobs our young adults are not interested in doing.

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Jobs our young adults are not interested in doing?

You mean STEM jobs?
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The immigrants will go to extreme lengths to land a job. Huge commutes, crap pay, redoing their entire education in Canada.

Regarding point 3. The workers will come here hoping to stay in the West – even if there are no jobs for them. They will then apply and accept jobs posted with sub-par wages. If loads of H1-B refugees descend on the GTA, that just means the wages for “X“ jobs just dropped. ANY somewhat related experience in Canada that might lead to an ok job in the future is better than being shipped back to India, China, Middle East wherever. You can take this one to the bank, the government, land lords, and business owners will be the only winners.

Too bad really, Trudeau needs those taxes like never before…

#66 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:02 pm

For question number 2 I would have liked to see a 3rd answer: “Immigration should be tied to the unemployment rate.”

With all the new technology threatening to take away jobs and the economy still in the ditch I am not sure Canada needs more people at this time. But that could change. The unemployment rate is probably the best indicator of when that change occurs. Just stuffing more people into Toronto and Vancouver isn’t necessarily going to cause economic expansion unless there are jobs or business opportunities for those people. And yes Canada is really big but most of it is uninhabitable. The parts that are habitable are already pretty crowded.

The idea that population growth is required for a healthy economy has its origins in the perpetual growth myth. It is required in order for things like CPP, OAS, and government debt to pencil out, but wishes aren’t kisses. If more population was the answer India should be much richer than Canada or the US. Instead, it seems like increased productivity is a large part of the answer, not population growth alone. Has been since the industrial revolution. Actually before that even. Ever since the horse drawn steel plow really.

#67 OK, Doomer on 10.05.20 at 7:02 pm

You can trace the roots of the US problems to long, long before Trump. In 2013 Harry Reid changed the Senate rules requiring 60 votes to affirm a justice to ram through Obama’s three SCOTUS picks.

What Reid failed spectacularly to understand was that the 60 vote rule ensured two things:

1. Partisan politics were not that important as a 60 vote required bi-partisan support.

2. In requiring bi-partisan support, radically conservative or liberal SCOTUS nominees were naturally weeded out as the support would not be there.

Harry Reid pulled out a needed check-and-balance and created the hyper-partisan bloodsport that we see today.

If Trump wants to let the air out of this stupidity he needs to re-establish the 60 vote rule and return partisanship to it’s usual slow boil, not a California wildfire.

#68 Freedom First on 10.05.20 at 7:08 pm

New World Order will remove ALL human rights.

Except mine.

Freedom First

#69 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:12 pm

#9 Graeme Jukes on 10.05.20 at 4:55 pm
Re the condo question–wouldn’t buy now because of fear but AFTER the big cliff of deferrals runs over it may be time.. because eventually yes, cities will be vibrant again.

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Agreed but WFH isn’t going away. You can do that in the city too and still be close to the night life, cinemas, libraries, restaurants, gang warfare, and sirens at all hours of the night. This covid thing just accelerated a trend that was already underway. However I think more than 50% of the people will return to the office. Not every job fits the WFH model all that well.

In fact, most people didn’t work in an office before covid. Plumbers, electricians, etc. always went where the work was. Mechanics go to their garages. Waiters work in their restaurants. All of that will be unaffected.

So yes the cities will be vibrant, but we probably won’t need as much office space. The office was only one of the factors that make cities vibrant but other than at lunch time it isn’t a big one.

#70 Raising Cain on 10.05.20 at 7:15 pm

6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says his doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s really getting better
7/30: Dies

Herman Cain continues to tweet from the Zombie zone……

The Cain Gang @THEHermanCain
·
Keep praying. God is responding.

#71 Stone on 10.05.20 at 7:16 pm

#50 ElGatoNerodeYVR on 10.05.20 at 6:20 pm
#33 Stone on 10.05.20 at 5:43 pm
#28 BlogDog123 on 10.05.20 at 5:29

Those immigrants often are doing the jobs our young adults are not interested in doing.
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Jobs our young adults are not interested in doing?

You mean STEM jobs?
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As an imigrant myself I guess in theory I should express politically correctly outrage at the comment however I find myself in total agreement with Stone here. Our governments have continued to import cheap labor from outside instead of forcing an internal skills training program and prioritize Canadian residents . We have so many graduates each year they should get priority over any degree and experience from outside Canada. Strong checks and balances should be placed as well on all of these programs, if no canadian resident wants to do a job then there is a good reason for it, usually not enough pay and/or poor working conditions.

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Actually, when I still had employees reporting to me, I had a really hard time hiring fully integrated Canadians (2nd generation and beyond Canadians).

It wasn’t due to lack of fully integrated Canadian applicants. I had tons. The problem was that, in general, they were useless, lazy, and had a sense of entitlement that I found disgusting. And that was during the interview where they should be putting their best foot forward.

Put that against a 1st generation Canadian or immigrant applicant. Yes, you had some duds in the mix however the vast majority had incredible potential and were willing to be moulded. You could set expectations with them and they said they would do it. And they did.

Any fully integrated Canadian that I ended up hiring never progressed beyond an entry level position. No drive. No ambition. No desire. I invested probably twice as much effort on them and all for naught. All the 1st generation Canadian and immigrant hires have all progressed to mid level or senior positions within the organization. There are about 44,000 employees.

Fully integrated Canadians need to work as hard as anyone else if they expect to get hired for the mid and senior level roles, be they STEM or not. It’s not a giveaway. Ultimately, you don’t want a substandard doctor operating on you amputating your leg when you went in for an appendicitis. You want the cream of the crop working on you and for you.

For myself, I’m a first generation Canadian just to set proper context. Also, I completely believe that an open and fully diversified workforce is the best option you can have for any business.

#72 Steven Rowlandson on 10.05.20 at 7:18 pm

The world is nuts.

That sounds about right.

#73 R on 10.05.20 at 7:18 pm

Trump was never tested positive for Covid. This was a big distraction . Win/win for Trump. Now he can say “ See I told you Covid was nothing”, AND, now he can dodge a fair debate ( Trumps nightmare). Until Dr Fauci confirms Trump had Covid, I say it is BS.

#74 crowdedelevatorfartz on 10.05.20 at 7:18 pm

@#61 Yorkville Renter
“Canada already had a female PM, Kim Campbell.
Yes, it was for just a few months…”

++++

She was the only one willing to stand firm when all the others took one step back when the Cons were ravaged in the polls..
Mulroney decimated the Conservative Party for at least a decade.
But she goes down in the history books as the first female Canadian PM…..even if it was by appointment..
So Trudeau cant claim that “first”

He will go down in history as the highest deficit PM in one year…. I’m sure any historical “first” is a plus in his manic world…..

#75 Apocalypse2020 on 10.05.20 at 7:20 pm

Bridges can be useful retreats, and I have scouted out a short list for possible usage. Not sharing here.

But with what we may face, better to get far away from major centres and their bridge infrastructure.

“Donald Trump COVID-19 fears: Russia and China will try to take advantage MP warns NATO”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1343524/donald-trump-coronavirus-covid19-diagnosis-russia-china-nato-boris-johnson-world-war-3

Rarely in history has one man’s temperature check been so likely to result in global, even nuclear, warfare.

Trump and his team are all getting sick, and are probably faking a recovery right now. The next few days will reveal all.

Take a long road trip for Thanksgiving. Go a few days early. Pack up lots of extras, just in case you need to camp.

The probabilities of something horrific happening soon are growing by the hour.

PREPARE

#76 Paul on 10.05.20 at 7:22 pm

#10 I’m stupid on 10.05.20 at 4:55 pm
I highly doubt a stimulus will be passed before the election. Why would the Dems agree to one when the reps are going to try to seat a judge?
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Yes you are, the Republicans are going to seat a judge!

#77 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:23 pm

#14 Jimmy Zhao on 10.05.20 at 5:05 pm
Well, trump getting the Wuhan Flu was a big nothingburger. He’s back !

God Bless America.

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The thing is, short of a super-duper vaccine, we are all going to get covid. That is sort of how a flu works. Eventually our immune systems will adapt but all this lockdown and mask stuff is doing is to slow the infection rate down (a worthy goal but not the end game).

But what we have now is a monsterous for profit full time news industry that needs to fill the screen 24/7. That is why the world seems so much more awful than it did when you got an hour over the airwaves at 6 and 11 and it was local. If there is nothing going on, CNN literally has to make something up. Can you imagine “President gets the flu” being a headline for 5 days straight in the old days?

#78 cuke and tomato picker on 10.05.20 at 7:25 pm

I believe that when this is all over cash will be king.Those
who have borrowed money will need to PAYUP. Interest rates will go up and housing will go down. People will only be able to keep what they paid for and I hope the
government will not allow people who live above their means to continue to do so.

#79 crowdedelevatorfartz on 10.05.20 at 7:31 pm

@#74 Apocalypse2020/21/22/23

Calm down poxy.
You’re posting like a “Sullen Sara”.

Trump’s got the flu.
No biggie.
If he actually did croak.
At least 50% of the US population and 99% of the world population would be dancing in the streets….
Nah.
A feverish, delusional, ranting Trump with access to “The Football”…..is a much scarier version of the future…….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football#:~:text=The%20nuclear%20football%20(also%20known,attack%20while%20away%20from%20fixed

#80 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:31 pm

#39 EG on 10.05.20 at 5:55 pm
You were right about the cruise ship business . The ship breakers are already busy taking apart cruise ships . Incredible. Never bet against Garth and crew .

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The ship breakers are always taking apart ships. They don’t last forever. I think it is highly dubious to think that the cruise ships now being busted weren’t previously scheduled for retirement in the near future.

#81 the Jaguar on 10.05.20 at 7:32 pm

-Trump wins by a significant margin. Later analysis will show that it was Latino and Black voters caring more about security, jobs, family, and the American way of life that put him ‘over the top’. The left ‘shits the bed’ because they got the math wrong. ( 2016, ‘deja vu all over again’). Far right and left ideology comes under a greater microscope by the lazy media and people everywhere, and Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand climbs the best seller list 64 years after its publication date.

-Covid 19 vaccine arrives before December 31st. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to the world. The scientist or company responsible is on the cover of Time Magazine as ‘Person of the Year’. New Year’s celebrations world wide are bigger than in human memory. Somebody or something gets kissed in Time’s Square like the end of World War II. Maybe a Transgender couple. People will embrace love in any presentation.

-Condo markets in GTA/GVA slide deeply due to ‘overbuild, lack of interest for investor buyers, insurance coverage issues, and a final ‘wise up’ to the ugliness and problematic nature of tall glass towers with future curtain wall issues’. High rise condo living falls out of favour permanently as people realize the health and infrastructural issues are just insane. The future for condos is low rise, high end, upscale only. Boomer marketplace.

-The New Year will bring an economic ‘lift off’ like something engineered by NASA. World oil demand will be like a Buick Grand National when it was the fastest production car in the world. Retail will be reconfigured permanently – winners and losers only, with losers facing a destiny foretold in a past read of their palm if they were paying attention. Supply lines will become more regional, and while will benefit, others will need to adapt to the new reality and there will be displacement. Some equivalent of MMT will be there to catch the vulnerable. We remain a compassionate society.

-Meng will be released and the Michaels handed over unexpectedly and with dignity for all parties. It will be similar to the repatriation of the last three of the Cuban Five in December 2015.

-Regional aspirations and actions will mirror their desire to control their own destiny and growth due to continued incoherent and dismissive national messages and the behaviours demonstrated by some provinces that chose to seal themselves off from the rest of the country during Covid. Lack of unity and fault lines were exposed and will not soon be forgotten.

-Garth and Dorothy will undertake yet another mission due to reduced privacy, climate affects on a leg with pins and metal, and Garth’s insatible desire to attach himself to another interesting challenge. Even Dorothy knew sleeping dogs would never remain so, they were just playing ‘possum’. Lunenburg remains the summer home. Dog knows what the next venture might be.

Emerson’s words will come back to us with greater understanding:
‘A deep man believes in miracles, waits for them, believes in magic, believes that the orator will decompose his adversary; believes that the evil eye can wither, that the heart’s blessing can heal; that love can exalt talent; can overcome all odds.’

#82 belly rubs on 10.05.20 at 7:40 pm

#14 Jimmy Zhao on 10.05.20 at 5:05 pm
Well, trump getting the Wuhan Flu was a big nothingburger. He’s back !

God Bless America.

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#76 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:23 pm

The thing is, short of a super-duper vaccine, we are all going to get covid. That is sort of how a flu works…. Can you imagine “President gets the flu” being a headline for 5 days straight in the old days?

……

You shouldn’t be glib. It’s not the flu. It’s a cold.

#83 Apocalypse2020 on 10.05.20 at 7:44 pm

“WW3 fears erupt as Russia considers missile deal with Iran despite threats from US”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1344166/russia-iran-s400-anti-aircraft-missile-system-usa-world-war-3?

All this may take is the distraction of illness at the White House.

And who knows what China and North Korea may be planning.

PREPARE

#84 Catalyst on 10.05.20 at 7:47 pm

Re the picture – Picton is such a nice little town and I hope it survives. I went to the sandbanks once this summer and the brewery we normally stop at was a shell of it’s normal self.

#85 VicPaul on 10.05.20 at 7:50 pm

Allow me to qualify my answers to #2 and #3.

#2 – I think immigration is necessary (given our falling birthrate). I think economic/education filters should be used as the primary scale to admit newcomers – knowing fully that there will always (and should) be a component of immigration reserved for refugee/threat-to-life status.

#3 – I would never buy a condo (or ANY strata arrangement). The idea of throwing my financial lot in with hundreds of other people that I don’t know…to share liability – um, no.

M56BC

#86 Steven Nicolle on 10.05.20 at 7:51 pm

I am hoping Biden wins in a landslide. If not and this election is disputed then U.S. is like Chile under Pinochet to me. If I were young and single and had a bit of moneyI would buy a condo. Cities will return. Immigrants come on down once this is over. Has nothing to do with house prices. House prices will stabilize. They may go down a few percents but nothing drastic. Reading a book right now called the deficit myth and the logic behind inflation is governments keep unemployment at a level where people will work for less just to have employment which keeps the economy from heating up so no inflation. 2%. So as long as there is not full employment inflation is kept in check. Inflation did not happen after 2008 and will not happen now after pandemic.

#87 Faron on 10.05.20 at 7:53 pm

#76 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:23 pm

Can you imagine “President gets the flu” being a headline for 5 days straight in the old days?

Nope. But it isn’t the flu and that wasn’t the headline, was it? More like

PRESIDENT’S OXYGEN LEVELS PLUNGE LEADING TO HOSPITAL ADMISSION

or

ADMINISTRATION FAILS TO CONTACT TRACE SPREAD OF COVID, STAFF FEARFUL FOR LIVES

or

PRESIDENT RETURNS TO WHITEHOUSE, IMMEDIATELY REMOVES MASK PUTTING STAFF IN JEOPARDY

Grow up NP

#88 down and out on 10.05.20 at 7:53 pm

Condo sucks , you mean the shoe box high rises built for profit .This low riser built of concrete on the lake shore were you shut out the crazy world by closing ones door and can open curtains to the sunrise and sets not like main street ,check how many private homes do not even open curtains to the street(most). This condo is close walking distance to all amenities and an adult and smoke free building with a huge reserve fund, $100 utilities bill a month, gas heat and modest fees, televised security system, underground parking and storage lockers ,gym ,trans Canada bike and walking trail near the building ,marine across the street,inspections done yearly smallest unit is 1500 square feet .Yeah who would want to live here . We are full of retired teachers,police ,business families etc. last 2 units sold private no reality people (word of mouth ). Good condos do exist.Sorry

#89 Barb on 10.05.20 at 7:59 pm

“Dogs are cats”.

Never.
Ever.
Even when the world is decidedly upside down.

#90 Smartalox on 10.05.20 at 8:00 pm

All those hewing and crying about civil unrest and clashes between extremists on the right, and extremists on the left should take a pause and think about the last time civil unrest got out of hand in Canada.

Tonight marks 50 years since the kidnapping of British diplomat James Cross by a radical extremist group that called themselves the “Front for the ‘Liberation’ or Quebec” (FLQ).

Five days later, radicals from a different faction of the same extremist group kidnap the deputy premier of Quebec, Pierre Laporte. A week later, they kill him, executing him in the name of their cause.

The events precipitated Canada’s ‘October Crisis’.

Confronted with these radicals’ threats, PM (Pierre) Trudeau enacted martial law across the the country, suspending civil liberties by invoking the war measures act. Soldiers were mobilized on Canadian Soil, and tanks rolled in the streets.

Read and reflect on what actually happened. Puts some of our current disturbances into perspective a bit, eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis

#91 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 8:01 pm

#126 Sail Away on 10.05.20 at 9:23 am
#114 Sail Away on 10.05.20 at 12:21 am

Here we are: the good Donald clearly, unequivocally, and publicly condemns white supremacists and hate groups.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/01/politics/trump-proud-boys-white-supremacists/index.html

Although he could give a personalized private performance to some people, complete with a song and dance number, and there would still be something wrong with it.

“(a) Why did this not happen in the debate, rather than to Fox News two days (and universal condemnation) later? (b) Ask him about Q. – Garth”

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Sigh. So it’s still wrong?

Could it be that not everybody is instantly perfect and will later follow up with a more comprehensive statement?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7bUR0Sc8Os

What is amazing here is that Chris Wallace was the moderator for both the shown clips, 2016 and 2020. Same question, essentially the same answer, (although stronger in 2016), and yet the media is still saying Trump refuses to disavow racists. And people believe it.

#92 The Ghost of Herman Cain on 10.05.20 at 8:01 pm

Don’t be afraid of Covid – DJT 2020

Sure, if you are the President and have access to the best healthcare and best practices when treating Corona.

For the rest of us, let me cover all bases….
Don’t fear the reaper – BOC 1976.

Whatever happens 45, at least we will always have Tulsa.

Mr. President, your behaviour lately is making me feel like Jacob Marley. Beware!

#93 Drill Baby Drill on 10.05.20 at 8:03 pm

“dipped into the gene pool”? be careful this pool is extremely shallow.

#94 Dan on 10.05.20 at 8:04 pm

Agree with ‘Niagara Region’. Not everything is black or white
In addition, the way the multiple choices are sometimes written seems to drive the respondent to the ‘right’ answer.
I submitted it but this will probably not give you an unbiased view of how your readers think.

#95 zoey on 10.05.20 at 8:27 pm

sorry typo’s corrected … Garth an edit function would be good ?

“Yet markets are robust, stocks are romping higher, real estate is smoking and financial investors are doin’ just fine.”

The only reason markets are up is because everything is being propped up …thats the stock market, thats realestate, thats peoples lost incomes.

When the stimulus stops the markets will crash again.

Watch the absorbtion rate in housing in the coming months its dropping as expected. The central bankers cannot and will not artificially depress bond yields forever, they will not provide stimulus forever. I see many new homes on the market in my area but I think they are too late and people will learn that houses are not always liquid.

#96 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.05.20 at 8:30 pm

#86 Faron on 10.05.20 at 7:53 pm

Get a grip Foron… If Trump was showing symptoms and spent 3 days in hospital he was past the incubation period of the virus..

#97 Slim on 10.05.20 at 8:33 pm

After about seven months, Trump finally gets it about covid-19. He says it’s like being schooled, albeit without any books.

#98 Peter on 10.05.20 at 8:34 pm

Couldn’t vote, and I love voting. Poor options to choose from.

#99 Bankish on 10.05.20 at 8:35 pm

I think Garth’s Oct. 2 blog “Captain Covid” was the most spot on explanation of the current times I have read. My number 1 fear as a retiree is running out of money followed closely by 4 more years of chaotic Trump incompetency. Mike Pence, Joe Biden, Lindsey Graham or Kamala Harris would all be acceptable in my mind just not an unstable man who seems to me to be going down hill at avalanche speed.
I made it through 2008 and the crash this year no problem, never sold a stock, slept great and just kept collected dividends. But having an unstable uncaring guy running the great USA is freaking me out.

#100 None of the above on 10.05.20 at 8:39 pm

Look what I found, thought it was scrubbed forever by T2 acolytes, not even sure that it’s not a photo shop

https://twitter.com/KoniHowie/status/1168438427785867264/photo/1

#101 The Woosh on 10.05.20 at 8:40 pm

#64 IHCTD9 on 10.05.20 at 7:01 pm
#33 Stone on 10.05.20 at 5:43 pm
#28 BlogDog123 on 10.05.20 at 5:29 pm
My prediction:

1. Things settle to normal in about 2 years.
2. USA’s America first policies continue, even under Biden. This continues the H1-B visa limits on immigration.
3. H1-B visa limits means more technology jobs come to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver areas. Mainly Toronto. Instead of USA.
4. GTA area housing prices inflate or stabilize for a while more, while we try to figure out where to house these fine talented, payroll-tax-paying folks who immigrate from India, China, Iran, etc…

Those immigrants often are doing the jobs our young adults are not interested in doing.

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Jobs our young adults are not interested in doing?

You mean STEM jobs?
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The immigrants will go to extreme lengths to land a job. Huge commutes, crap pay, redoing their entire education in Canada.

Regarding point 3. The workers will come here hoping to stay in the West – even if there are no jobs for them. They will then apply and accept jobs posted with sub-par wages. If loads of H1-B refugees descend on the GTA, that just means the wages for “X“ jobs just dropped. ANY somewhat related experience in Canada that might lead to an ok job in the future is better than being shipped back to India, China, Middle East wherever. You can take this one to the bank, the government, land lords, and business owners will be the only winners.

Too bad really, Trudeau needs those taxes like never before…

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Lol…not sure you want to include folks from China in your comment. Based on the warp speed changes in China, many Chinese don’t consider Canada as a land of milk and honey. In their view, Canada is a sleepy backwater…quaint and charming. The land of milk and honey with roads paved in gold…come on, you can guess…is China!

#102 Felix on 10.05.20 at 8:42 pm

‘Dogs are cats’

?????????????

In their DREAMS!

#103 Doug in London on 10.05.20 at 8:47 pm

One question was about buying a condo in the city. I said yes because, even though I have no intention of buying one myself, if I HAD to buy one then now or in the near future it might be a good time while a lot of people are still scared of urban areas. More likely I would be looking to rent one at a cheaper monthly rate.

As for stock markets they are up because, as the old cliche goes, they’re the only game in town. It’s a bad time for bond funds, and forget altogether about those dead GICs so that leaves equities as the only real alternative. Although keep in mind oil and gas stocks and ETFs, pipelines, and REITs are selling at a decent price now. Speaking of which, when news got out of how Trump was recovering from COVID oil stocks went up some. It goes to show you how the markets are bouncing around like the load ammeter on a rock crusher as I’ve described before.

#104 akashic record on 10.05.20 at 8:49 pm

Teachers in Toronto wear TDSB distributed masks – made in China.

Globalism is grand.

#105 Drinking on 10.05.20 at 8:52 pm

I like #5 Bob’s response as well as a few others; this one is not a good survey Garth under these uncertain times; who the hell knows who wins or what we will be faced within the next year.

#106 Useful Yahoo on 10.05.20 at 8:57 pm

Michigan people win big court case!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-d7HtEMpM&feature=youtu.be

#107 DON on 10.05.20 at 8:58 pm

#18 Long-Time Lurker on 10.05.20 at 5:09 pm
From what I’ve been hearing in the news (for who knows how long) I’m thinking about starting up a new media outlet: The Daily Outrage.

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And daily rant sessions. Constructive ranting.

#108 MF on 10.05.20 at 9:09 pm

#64 IHCTD9 on 10.05.20 at 7:01 pm

I’m starting to think you don’t actually know any immigrants. If you did, you would see the success stories.

Stop with the anti gta slant already. Getting old.

MF

#109 jess tree on 10.05.20 at 9:11 pm

hum?

Is the Chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Jay Clayton, a watchdog or a lapdog?

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2020/10/as-sec-attempts-to-provide-greater-darkness-to-trading-firms-maxine-waters-fights-back/

https://financialservices.house.gov/uploadedfiles/6.25.2020_sec_letter.pdf

#110 tccontrarian on 10.05.20 at 9:19 pm

Several of the Survey questions forced me into responses that don’t represent my actual opinion – but I had to choose A or B.

Anyway…

It IS an upside world today and it will some while until things ‘normalize’ – if ever. The Powers that Be want to create a ‘new normal’ – like mask and distancing.

However, I got messaged by a friend who found that there’s an international legal case on Covid19:

“INTERNATIONAL LAWYERS WILL ARGUE THE BIGGEST TORT CASE IN WORLD HISTORY”

Me? I don’t know what to think! All I know is that I’ve worn a mask for a total of 20 seconds in the year 2020 so far! Can we have a contest on that?

https://lbry.tv/@cammino1984:d/THE-CORONA-FRAUD-SCANDAL—INTERNATIONAL-LAWYERS-WILL-ARGUE-THE-BIGGEST-TORT-CASE-IN-WORLD-HISTORY:4

#111 Faron on 10.05.20 at 9:20 pm

#89 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 8:01 pm

#126 Sail Away on 10.05.20 at 9:23 am
#114 Sail Away on 10.05.20 at 12:21 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7bUR0Sc8Os

That’s post dog whistle, the white nationalists were already in love and knew what he was really about. Here’s the context:

“It should be noted that Trump’s unfamiliarity with Duke is a recent condition. In 2000, Trump issued a statement that he was no longer considering a run for President with the backing of the Reform Party, partly because it ‘now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke.'”

But in August, 2015 after receiving an endorsement from Mr. Duke calling him “the best of the lot” he said “…I don’t know anything about him.”

“Throughout last fall and into the winter, Trump continued to accumulate support among white nationalists. In November, on a weekend in which he said that a black protester, at a rally in Alabama, deserved to be “roughed up,” Trump retweeted a graphic composed of false racist statistics on crime; the graphic, it was discovered, originated from a neo-Nazi account that used as its profile image a variation on the swastika. In January, he retweeted the account “@WhiteGenocideTM,” which identified its location as “Jewmerica.” Shortly before the Iowa caucuses, a pro-Trump robocall featured several white supremacists, including the author Jared Taylor, who told voters, “We don’t need Muslims. We need smart, well-educated white people.” Each time Trump was asked on Twitter about his white nationalist supporters, the candidate, who is ready to respond, day or night, to critics of his debating style or his golf courses, simply ignored the question.”

From an article by Evan Osnos of The New Yorker. Feb 28th, 2016. Before the debate linked above. Wallace had every reason to ask and ask again.

Trump may or may not be a racist, but it’s abhorrent that he constantly fumbles over the issue knowing full well that votes are at risk. He only does so after the dog whistles have been blown and that is vile. It’s one thing to fumble of political ideology, but white supremacy/white nationalism/western (male) chauvenism are all ethically bankrupt and should be easily discarded. Not by the fiscally bankrupt Donald apparently.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-and-the-ku-klux-klan-a-history

and

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-far-right-revival-a-thirty-year-war

This is 2015. Is anyone surprised that the far right is more prominent than ever in the US?

#112 MF on 10.05.20 at 9:30 pm

76 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:23

Sorta true.

Herd immunity takes time to occur. The infection starts off really intense as it works its way through the population. Then eventually it mutates into a less lethal form that keeps it host/reservoir alive in order for it to spread to a new host and stay around. More and more people eventually become immune with increased exposure over time.

All good right?

Problem is no one wants to be part of the initial load of cases that face the tougher version of the viral infection and risk death, pain, or long term disability because of it. It’s like the biological bystander effect. So, we have no other option but to buy time until we 1) learn about what we are dealing with 2) develop some sort of treatment. We are getting there but it takes time.

MF

#113 crowdedelevatorfartz on 10.05.20 at 9:36 pm

Stop the presses!
Stop the presses!

Apparently our intrepid Auzzie Floppie was packing more than clothing in his carry on bag when he flew from Tasmania to the Mainland…….

https://www.cnet.com/news/chris-hemsworth-helps-reintroduce-tasmanian-devils-to-australia-for-first-time-in-3000-years/

I think they named the first cantankerous, foul smelling, loud, vile tempered devil “sara” in honor of all angry bloggers everywhere…….

#114 Ponzius Pilatus on 10.05.20 at 9:59 pm

#76 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:23 pm
#14 Jimmy Zhao on 10.05.20 at 5:05 pm
Well, trump getting the Wuhan Flu was a big nothingburger. He’s back !

God Bless America.

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The thing is, short of a super-duper vaccine, we are all going to get covid. That is sort of how a flu works. Eventually our immune systems will adapt but all this lockdown and mask stuff is doing is to slow the infection rate down (a worthy goal but not the end game).

But what we have now is a monsterous for profit full time news industry that needs to fill the screen 24/7. That is why the world seems so much more awful than it did when you got an hour over the airwaves at 6 and 11 and it was local. If there is nothing going on, CNN literally has to make something up. Can you imagine “President gets the flu” being a headline for 5 days straight in the old days?
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There was no President like Trump in the olden days.
He is special.

#115 Looney Baloney on 10.05.20 at 10:08 pm

My responses:
1. WFH will lead to a hybrid workplace for many. Most will still work full-time from a central location..
2. It should be a permanent reduction for several reasons, least of which is house prices.
3. Cities will be vibrant again and cheaper condos are a buying opportunity. Condos are for suckers and I would not purchase.
4. Things will stabilize at these levels. Your friendly gov would just buy a bigger stake to keep prices “stable”
5. This is not a permanent trend. Moving to the suburbs is the right thing to do, but many do not have what it takes to survive in the suburbs on a permanent basis.
6. It’s the new normal. Rates will not rise again in our lifetimes because of too much
government debt. The debts of the little people don’t matter.
7. Trump wins big in a landslide. The MSM will refuse to call the election. Chaos will ensure.

Feel free to disregard my vote.

#116 truefacts on 10.05.20 at 10:11 pm

Garth, please dial downn the hyperbole:

“…he put Secret Service guys at risk by insisting on doing a motorcade around his hospital on Sunday. His Rose Garden event for the new SCOTUS lady turned into a superspreader moment. The list of infected keeps growing…”

Really? Are you saying the average secret service guy is older than 70? The data says Covid is not really that dangerous for people under 60 (look at the data from Sweden)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/

More people die of car accidents than Covid (for the under-60 crowd):

https://www.statista.com/statistics/438009/number-of-road-deaths-in-sweden/

These are the stats I’ve looked at, but perhaps there are stats that say otherwise – I’d be curious (and please not the US number of deaths or deaths globally unless they break them down by age categories…

So far 210,000 dead in the US. But those are just meaningless, nameless numbers, eh Derek? – Garth

#117 ElGatoNerodeYVR on 10.05.20 at 10:18 pm

#70 Stone on 10.05.20 at 7:16 pm
As a perfect example as one of those that went from 0 to quite the way up in a few multinationals I hear you.
Not sure why the lack of competitive spirit and motivation plus entitlement is coming from in a good portion of the workforce , still we could,should do more to give the highly educated more practical oriented education and proper paying jobs , stop shielding them from the real world and really just stop most of those arts programs (personal pet peeve ,I had too many wanted to be promoted just because they had 2 arts degrees ,even though they had 0 leadership skills )
As for those at the bottom there are jobs ,there must be a way to get them into those jobs , there is never a perfect solution unfortunately.

#118 TurnerNation on 10.05.20 at 10:24 pm

This guy, “Mad Max” perhaps a minor footnote in political history – I do not follow him, got it:

“@MaximeBernier
The most important function of the State is to protect its citizens from internal and external aggression.
While claiming to protect us from #COVID19, our governments are now actively attacking our economic, physical and mental well-being.
They have become the aggressor.”

………

As I noted from the get go – April! What has changed after 6 more months of WW3? Not much.
What magic, they can tell you down to the minute what time/place you got sick at – and shut it down! Always at small business. Last year when you had the flu, where’d you get it? Tell us…
…..
#109 TurnerNation on 04.04.20 at 8:31 pm
Inverse ETFs? Naw this is the great Inversion our rulers have planned.

– healthy people are presumed sick
– law abiding people and laid off people are being arrested and fined for socalizing
– criminals are being freed and not held in jail as courts are closed.
– police stopped enforcement of traffic laws and minor offences. So much for serve and protect our communities. And they are enjoying full pay for little work. Our heroes are they?
– Thrifty savers are punished over and over again by surprise interest rate cuts.
– thriftless uhh spendthrifts also are rewarded with the government handouts.
– small business and job creators are being destroyed.
– the means of capital are being seized by lenders, government.
Everything was turned upside down for the new system coming. Hang on.

#119 Mike on 10.05.20 at 10:37 pm

The survey questions seem like they are worded so that the survey creator can use the answers as “facts” to support his own opinion. I gave up after 2 questions.
Was anyone able to answer all the questions truthfully? I’m doubtful that a single person could answer all questions, in their entirety, truthfully.

#120 Canuck on 10.05.20 at 10:50 pm

So far 210,000 dead in the US. But those are just meaningless, nameless numbers, eh Derek? – Garth
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Wow, you actually believe that? America is the only country in the world that counts deaths as COVID is it is possible, probable or assumed. You’re a smart guy, Garth. Doesn’t it strike you strange that one country alone contributes to 20% of all infections and COVID deaths??
60 Million Americans were infected with H1N1. Where was the panic then? Sure there were less deaths but who knew that at the time? What a farce…

I also wanted to ask if you had someone from the CBC help you with your survey questions. Talk about slanted to fit a narrative you want to drive in a later blog.
I couldn’t participate.

#121 TurnerNation on 10.05.20 at 10:57 pm

The Business of Sports part 2. You gave up your rights for this sorcery? They sure are gunning to shut them down.
#’s on a screen is all it takes. What if there was no testing…gee things would continue normally.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/all-77-false-positive-covid-19-tests-came-back-negative-nfl-testing-partner-cites-isolated-contamination/
“The NFL went through one of its biggest COVID-19 scares of training camp after there were 77 positive tests that came about on Saturday. Upon further examination for this spike, however, it was revealed that these were false-positives “

#122 Ponzius Pilatus on 10.05.20 at 10:59 pm

I’m no lawyer (maybe WUL) can jump in.
But, if Trump loses the election, he will also lose the protection from criminal and civil litigation, which is available to a sitting President.
I mean this is America the most litigious country in the world.
Class action lawyers must be salivating. 210k possible plaintiffs so far

#123 Ace Goodheart on 10.05.20 at 11:03 pm

The USA is well on their way to herd immunity.

And they are going to kill a lot of people in the process (over 200,000 at last count).

Their President just announced that COVID is a nothingburger, people should not be afraid of it, and he feels better than he has in 20 years.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world locks down. Closed borders, closed businesses, people confined to their homes. Kids out of school. Tourism slaughtered, probably never to recover.

And China, the epicentre of COVID, where one new infection can put an entire region into lock down for an indefinite time.

China, about to invade Taiwan, having successfully neutered Hong Kong.

What would the USA’s next move be, if they wanted to control the great southern Bear that is the Communist Party of China?

Invade? Bomb them? Ground campaign? Nukes? Air raid? Perhaps an economic blockade?

Or maybe not.

Drop 10 COVID infected, herd immune service people into a major Chinese city. Have them walk around. Talk to folks. Go to stores. Cough and sneeze. Ride the metro. Go visit some schools.

Then announce they are infected with COVID. Entire city has to go into lockdown.

OK, drop 10 more somewhere else.

You can literally beat the bejeebers out of the entire communist republic, just by having a few herd immune folks walk around a city for a day or two.

What has the world done?

The West was won, not by war, not by persuasion, not by purchase. It was won by small pox, which Europe had conquered through herd immunity, and which killed the natives en masse.

It is happening again.

#124 truefacts on 10.05.20 at 11:08 pm

From Post #116

“So far 210,000 dead in the US. But those are just meaningless…” – Garth

No, I am honestly not trying to be difficult (although my tone seemed to be, so I apologize) or to minimize the importance of the people who have died. From the hard data, Covid seems to be serious for the elderly or health-compromised. But it is NOT serious for young or middle aged healthy people (and I would assume secret service guys are not elderly).

I just find the general fear is unjustified based on the data. Instead of locking everything down, it seems a more logical approach would be to allocate resources to the elderly and vulnerable to protect them from this threat. But the costs from our Covid “lockdown” approach so far in terms of depression, drug use, non-covid deaths, job losses, broken families, etc GREATLY outweigh the benefits (for low-risk people).

So yeah, during a presidential election campaign, I think it’s reasonable for the candidates to actually “campaign”

#125 SOMETHINGS UP! on 10.05.20 at 11:10 pm

And another one BITES THE DUST!

First Mother Earth sent Greta with a climate change warning. You didn’t listen. So, she sent this virus. You people better start listening.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/refinery-closing-irving-1.5751203

#126 Bileth on 10.05.20 at 11:11 pm

I enjoy your blog, but this is an awful survey that’s extremely biased and doesn’t reflect the public’s thoughts.

#127 SoggyShorts on 10.05.20 at 11:16 pm

#112 MF on 10.05.20 at 9:30 pm
76 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 7:23
Sorta true.
Herd immunity takes time to occur….

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And might never occur naturally.

♦If the virus mutates enough you will be able to catch it again.
♦If you stop producing antibodies/T-cells after a few months like with some other viruses, you lose immunity.

It may be that the best answer is limiting the spread and then vaccinating as fast as possible to completely irradicate it (like small pox)
That way even if immunity only lasts for say a year, it doesn’t matter because it’s gone.

That might be easier than trying to vaccinate 7 billion people faster than it mutates.

#128 KNOW IT ALL on 10.05.20 at 11:22 pm

This is just so unreal……. The most prominent leaders of the free world – how reckless! how selfish! how ignorant!

Just disgusting on another level!!!

Watch “Members Of Trump’s Inner Circle Test Positive For Covid-19 | Morning Joe | MSNBC” on YouTube

https://youtu.be/mCFt2BtuopA

#129 yvr_lurker on 10.05.20 at 11:23 pm

So far 210,000 dead in the US. But those are just meaningless, nameless numbers, eh Derek? – Garth

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Garth: At the beginning of the pandemic and shutdown in march and early-mid april, you were comparing Covid to the flu and comparing the death statistics with the seasonal flu, questioning whether the lockdown that Canada imposed was a good action. Seems like your views have changed?

However, I do believe that we don’t have any option going forward. People need to earn a living to support their families and the Gov’t has already thrown in the kitchen sink with all the $$$ disbersed (which will sink us for many years). Can’t do a big shutdown, but now that we know what is needed much more so than in April to prevent the spread (masks, distancing, no
gatherings, etc..) we all need to follow the rules as closely as possible and trust the scientists informing the Gov’t. The U.S. with such a stunning lack of leadership and everyone pulling in different directions is in for a world of hurt this winter.

#130 Sail Away on 10.05.20 at 11:38 pm

#136 IHCTD9

Give me 10 acres of bush next to a small lake and I’d never want to leave.

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My method specifically concentrates on undeveloped, unserviced bare land in good hunting/fishing areas with historical access and bordering Crown land.

Sometimes plots can be picked up surprisingly cheap.

Then pull up with well-appointed tipi or wall tent and settle in for months if you want. So good. No neighbours, pure freedom. I’d post pics if possible. Our tipi camp takes 1.5 hours to setup or tear down, sleeps 5 in comfort and gets closer to perfect every year. We have a sauna, hot and cold running water, shower, counters, sink, LED lights, laptop for Clint Eastwood movies, Starlink internet, solar panels charging deep-cycle battery bank with 8 circuits, woodstove, futon, full set of wood furniture… all the amenities. This camp is a long-running tradition with our friends who wouldn’t dream of missing it. My 82 yo father in law stayed with us for two weeks this year drinking whiskey, chopping firewood and snoozing in a chair overlooking the Chilcotin plateau and the Coast Mountains. My wife and her friend spend full days horseback riding while we hunt- if they leave first, my best dog goes with her and we’re left with the sidekick and pup. If we leave first he comes with us.

Full camp setup fits in a 4×8 trailer and tipi poles stay onsite. No vandalism, no year-round wildlife disturbance, and the huge one: no maintenance. Love it. Finding land and owner and working through the process can take some time. Good luck.

#131 Faron on 10.05.20 at 11:43 pm

#96 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.05.20 at 8:30 pm

#86 Faron on 10.05.20 at 7:53 pm

Wrong:

“…a minimum time in isolation of 13 days since symptom onset.” From the WHO.

“For most persons with COVID-19 illness, isolation and precautions can generally be discontinued 10 days after symptom onset and resolution of fever for at least 24 hours, without the use of fever-reducing medications, and with improvement of other symptoms.” the CDC

Nice try warping the facts though. You are gonna be sick…

#132 manyjobs on 10.05.20 at 11:54 pm

many jobs will not come back. most people are not in the stock market and will see zero benefit. inequality rises along with the police state and environmental collapse.

ive never been less optimistic. and this is probably the best year of the next 10 for the world.

#133 T-Rev on 10.06.20 at 12:06 am

Don’t kid yourself Gartho…the polls have it wrong again this time. Trump just handed the virus its tiny little a**, validating what he’s been saying all along: this is just a particularly nasty flu, so don’t sacrifice your freedom and the economy out of fear of something that didn’t even make an overweight 74 year old with poor sleep habits and a high stress job sick enough to take a day off work.

Yes, his behavior was shameful last Tuesday. But Biden’s lack of coherent and effective counter attack was equally shameful for a man running for the highest office in the world. The democrats have been infected with another kind of disease- communism. It goes by different names nowadays, but they’ve got the pestilence and they’ve got bad. They needed a strong leader to articulate a powerful call to centrist, classical liberal values of freedom, truth, and democracy, and they choose wrong yet again. Sleepy freakin Joe.

The best part will be when Trump starts bringing up term limits after he gets back in. This election is already a forgone conclusion, the interesting bets are now on 2024- president Ivanka? Or Kushner? Or maybe they run on the same ticket. Or maybe the OG actually goes after those pesky constitutional term limits and we get the cat grabber for another round.

#134 MaryEn on 10.06.20 at 12:29 am

Interesting, my opinion is exactly the opposite regarding Trump and stock market. I’m looking forward to see the results at the polls.

#135 Nonplused on 10.06.20 at 12:36 am

#87 Faron on 10.05.20 at 7:53 pm

All you have done is prove my point.

Sure, covid is currently making more headlines than the flu, because they are manufacturing headlines to fill the 24/7 news cycle, but as even Garth has pointed out this thing really doesn’t kill that many people outside high risk groups.

It will never go away, I don’t think. But 5 years from now it won’t have a name outside of “flu”. (Or “cold” for belly rubs.)

Now I am no microbiologist (my daughter is though, but I can’t speak for her), but I am guessing the reason covid has been so hard on people with previously compromised immune systems is because it is “new” and they don’t have antibodies, and can’t generate them in time. But the stats show most people don’t even know they have it. Trust those little T-cells, they’ve worked for a long time.

This isn’t the bubonic plague, which spread by fleas through the rat infested and shit filled streets of Europe at a time when nobody knew what a germ was.

#136 Nonplused on 10.06.20 at 12:45 am

#112 MF on 10.05.20 at 9:30 pm

I am not in a position to argue with that other than to add that it seems that people who have strong immune systems seem to be fairing about as well, or better, than people in car accidents. It is not killing everyone like the bubonic plague.

#137 Nonplused on 10.06.20 at 12:51 am

“So far 210,000 dead in the US. But those are just meaningless, nameless numbers, eh Derek? – Garth”

Don’t know why I am defending Derek other than this response is so inflammatory. No deaths are meaningless, but then on the other hand Garth you also argue that we shouldn’t have shut down the economy for something that isn’t infecting very many people and has kill surprisingly few of them. Which is it? Unfortunately it is both. It is also tragic when a coal mine collapses but I still want to charge my cell phone.

#138 majik on 10.06.20 at 1:13 am

” But we know this: he put Secret Service guys at risk by insisting on doing a motorcade around his hospital on Sunday.”

Secret Service flew onboard Marine One with Trump on Friday when it left the Whitehouse.

When Marine One landed at Walter Reed on Friday a Secret Service motorcade transferred Trump from the helipad to the main hospital building which are a distance from each other.

The reverse procedure happened tonight.

#139 Cheeto Trumpolini on 10.06.20 at 1:35 am

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1313294697343807489?s=19

#140 tkid on 10.06.20 at 1:46 am

Subsidies are what is keeping everything afloat, but sooner or later the money runs out. It isn’t limitless. But the public’s appetite is for more debt, public and private, and they won’t stop until they hit the wall.

The US economy is already hitting the skids. Jobs will begin to be lost in Canada, and it will hit pocketbooks up here. The govt is papering up the cracks with UBI but it is only a matter of time before prices rise to a level where UBI won’t pay for mortgages and credit card debt and groceries. More UBI will be needed. Prices will rise. People will cut back. More UBI, more debt, until the IMF demands bond rates the Cdn government cannot pay.

The IMF has done this before and will do it again.

When Canada finally runs out of money to borrow and taxes absolutely cannot be raised higher, the UBI will stop. People will lose roofs over their heads. The pain will be epic. But it will take awhile to get to that point.

Everyone’s lifestyle will continue until their credit cards run out of room. The question is how large is the limit on the govt’s credit card.

#141 cto on 10.06.20 at 7:11 am

Geese Garth, 5 years ago you would have said the opposite of this.

“cheaper condos are a buying opportunity. I would purchase.”

This underscores that you have capitulated and accepted a price floor, as well as rents staying in the $1500-2000/mnth range.

If you want that kind of ownership, I stated, then lower prices (coming fast) are an opportunity. How is that not obvious? – Garth

#142 Gravy Train on 10.06.20 at 7:44 am

#137 Nonplused on 10.06.20 at 12:51 am
“[…] It is also tragic when a coal mine collapses, but I still want to charge my cell phone.” Put solar panels on your roof, and you can remain guilt-free. Get a grip! :P

#143 IHCTD9 on 10.06.20 at 7:45 am

#101 The Woosh on 10.05.20 at 8:40 pm

Lol…not sure you want to include folks from China in your comment. Based on the warp speed changes in China, many Chinese don’t consider Canada as a land of milk and honey. In their view, Canada is a sleepy backwater…quaint and charming. The land of milk and honey with roads paved in gold…come on, you can guess…is China!
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Dude, China sucks – unless you are connected to the government, and even these folks are setting up landing pads in other countries and exporting their families.

HK’ers aren’t down for handing over their Western society to the Chinese authorities for good reason.

#144 Wait There on 10.06.20 at 7:45 am

The APPARENT lifestyle of the middle class in NA is built upon debt. Period. Lower interest rates allow the population to grow more debt so that the lifestyle can continue the acquisition of autos, property and stuff is there for the illusion of wealth and prosperity.

The concept of working, saving for retirement, retiring will soon be gone because it is structurally broken. Elder people cannot retire for lack of savings, what savings is there will generate lower returns each year, even with a balanced portfolio. At the same time, inflation is there but is not admitted to by the governments and institutions.

As someone now on the cusp of retiring, it is a very , not uncertain, but rather tumultuous time for decisions.

Taxation will increase, while at the same time returns will be less and things will cost more. This at a time one cannot recover from bad financial choices IF there is one.

How did we get here?

#145 Hamsterwheelie on 10.06.20 at 7:51 am

Imagine my surprise to open Garths blog and see my Dad’s bike and the pup! (named ‘Pan’) there used to be my mum too, on the back and another border collie in the sidecar – they have moved off this mortal coil sadly but Dad and Pan can be regularly be seen around Picton and area where he lives. Thanks!!

#146 Tua The Redeemer on 10.06.20 at 8:08 am

#67 OK, Doomer on 10.05.20 at 7:02 pm
You can trace the roots of the US problems to long, long before Trump. In 2013 Harry Reid changed the Senate rules requiring 60 votes to affirm a justice to ram through Obama’s three SCOTUS picks.

What Reid failed spectacularly to understand was that the 60 vote rule ensured two things:

1. Partisan politics were not that important as a 60 vote required bi-partisan support.

2. In requiring bi-partisan support, radically conservative or liberal SCOTUS nominees were naturally weeded out as the support would not be there.

Harry Reid pulled out a needed check-and-balance and created the hyper-partisan bloodsport that we see today.

If Trump wants to let the air out of this stupidity he needs to re-establish the 60 vote rule and return partisanship to it’s usual slow boil, not a California wildfire.
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Not quite. The changes by Reid did not include SCOTUS nominations. It was Mitch McConnell who extended those changes to include SCOTUS while trying to confirm Gorsuch.

#147 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.06.20 at 8:14 am

#131 Faron on 10.05.20 at 11:43 pm
#96 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.05.20 at 8:30 pm

#86 Faron on 10.05.20 at 7:53 pm

Wrong:

“…a minimum time in isolation of 13 days since symptom onset.” From the WHO.

“For most persons with COVID-19 illness, isolation and precautions can generally be discontinued 10 days after symptom onset and resolution of fever for at least 24 hours, without the use of fever-reducing medications, and with improvement of other symptoms.” the CDC

Nice try warping the facts though. You are gonna be sick

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Median estimates at 5-6 days, and continues to reduce as we learn more about the virus. The 10 and 14 days are what’s called “engineering safety factors”…

Masks are only recommended if you can’t maintain 6ft from others… the guy was standing on his balcony alone. I get you don’t like the guy, you don’t need to, but stop constantly looking for ways to verify your belief that aren’t there…

“Current estimates of the incubation period range from 1-14 days with median estimates of 5-6 days between infection and the onset of clinical symptoms of the disease.Aug 24, 2020”
http://www.canada.ca › health-professionals

#148 maxx on 10.06.20 at 8:35 am

@ #18

The daily dose in our household is once a day – if that.

Having said that, this extremely surreal time is like a flight of indeterminate length, destination unknown, piloted by people few respect. At all.

Many debtors, regardless of government largesse are in the cargo hold. Those whose fiscal heads are somewhat above water are in economy and the rich are on the upper deck, champagne glass in hand.

Debt sucks at any time, but especially at a time like this.

#149 Wait There on 10.06.20 at 8:35 am

What is the probability of acquiring covid when a medical grade N95 mask was worn by the secret service guys was in the auto AND when its occupant was also wearing a mask? Do the math and it is no wonder the medical guys approved it.

Covid needs to be respected and precautions taken but even some of the worst watchers who were correct in Jan, Feb March April have now come around and are no longer afraid of it for the general population.

What we knew in March April and May is vastly different from what we now know. This significant and the press has not reported on it though in the medical journals it is known. We now have THERAPEUTIC treatments that work and is quite effective on healthy individuals.

Unfortunately, science had extended the lives of many who are vulnerable to the effects of Covid. We need to acknowledge that aspect of covid 19. Maybe at some point we will acquire knowledge to mitigate that aspect.

The death rates in the USA is not a total surprise. It was predictable in a way. Once we knew in March who the susceptibles were based on the little known facts from China and Europe, it was foretelling of the effects to the elderly, obese and those suffering from some diseases.
Factor in the consideration of obesity, diabetes and high blood pressure based on race ( Yeah, it is factually different based on race) and it is not surprising that a disproportionate number of black people in the USA suffered the stats we have seen. It is not political.
In Africa where the general population have better Tcell functions and where obesity is less common, covid did not pan out as deadly as predicted despite the lack of money and health care. Still deadly, but the disaster that was predicted does not look to be the case.

We have been subjected to the mainstream press who is only concerned about catching eyeballs and the best way to do that is to keep amping up Covid.

#150 willworkforpickles on 10.06.20 at 9:19 am

The calls for climate change go on and on without end.
Yet there is no call for reining in the corrupt FDA those and others calling for a better safer world have any regard for.
The FDA should be held solely responsible for the ease at which covid-19 is spreading among certain age groups.
Ultimately all age groups as covid relentlessly gets an irreversible lock on all humanity.
FDA approval of GMO’s are a real point of concern in the food supply adversely affecting and lowering the human immune system.
Early studies have led to this initial finding.
15 years of GMO’s in the food supply have been/is reeking havoc on our immune systems and overall health especially in America.
The focus on banning all GMO’s in our food supply needs to become as great if not greater than the focus on vaccines.
The natural vitamin and mineral boost from our food source has fallen of a cliff replaced with genetically modified franken-food in the name of profits for the FDA and the greed mongers in control…(out of control…beyond control)
Our becoming less healthy with each passing year and our health overall should be taking its place along side of the leading issues of the day.
Ban GMO’s – needs to become a top going concern as infectious disease worsens in society (much attributable to widespread GMO contamination in our food) in that near future pandemics surely will be.

#151 TurnerNation on 10.06.20 at 9:25 am

Probably the most under-rated post today, Coho’s. Re-read:

https://www.greaterfool.ca/2020/10/05/the-resurrection/#comment-740601

#152 T on 10.06.20 at 9:26 am

#91 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 8:01 pm

What is amazing here is that Chris Wallace was the moderator for both the shown clips, 2016 and 2020. Same question, essentially the same answer, (although stronger in 2016), and yet the media is still saying Trump refuses to disavow racists. And people believe it.

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There were good people on both sides.

Stand down and stand by.

You need to give your head a shake.

#153 T on 10.06.20 at 9:32 am

#136 Nonplused on 10.06.20 at 12:45 am
#112 MF on 10.05.20 at 9:30 pm

I am not in a position to argue with that other than to add that it seems that people who have strong immune systems seem to be fairing about as well, or better, than people in car accidents. It is not killing everyone like the bubonic plague.

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Another gem.

Everything you’ve been writing lately has been long winded and vastly misinformed.

#154 Bill Lumbergh hates WFH on 10.06.20 at 9:35 am

The office came into being when the world of work involved processing lots of paper. The fact that it remained so dominant for so long may instead reflect a market failure.

Yes, a lot of work can be done at home and many people seem to prefer doing it there.

As for face-to-face interaction, experts disagree about whether it facilitates or inhibits collaboration. It probably depends a lot on each individual and their personality type.

#155 Sail Away on 10.06.20 at 9:49 am

Wow, think of the effect the Corvid could have if it actually was dangerous!

All these world leaders, millions of people. In that case, the world would be in gigantic turmoil. As it is, most people recover just fine.

But what if?

#156 FASA on 10.06.20 at 9:50 am

Some facts:

– About 655,000 Americans die from heart disease each year – yet nobody is shutting down Mcd’s, Burger King or any other fast food joint that serves crap!

– About 110,000 of the 200,000 deaths in the US are people over the age of 75

Context is everything!

Can you imagine in the beginning if we just consulted with few Asian countries that went through SARS (Singapore) and learned that mask wearing helps reduce spread I guess a we wouldn’t have shut down the economy and saved ourselves 500 Billion dollars by just wearing a 50 cent mask and social distancing…go figure?

#157 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.06.20 at 10:14 am

#149 Wait There on 10.06.20 at 8:35 am

We have been subjected to the mainstream press who is only concerned about catching eyeballs and the best way to do that is to keep amping up Covid.

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Not just mainstream press, but also politicians (and wannabe politicians) with vaulting ambitions…

I’m personally hoping a lot of countries toss their current leadership as part of the “new normal”…

#158 Sail Away on 10.06.20 at 10:20 am

#152 T on 10.06.20 at 9:26 am
#91 Nonplused on 10.05.20 at 8:01 pm

What is amazing here is that Chris Wallace was the moderator for both the shown clips, 2016 and 2020. Same question, essentially the same answer, (although stronger in 2016), and yet the media is still saying Trump refuses to disavow racists. And people believe it.

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There were good people on both sides.

Stand down and stand by.

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You need to give your head a shake.

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Donald J. Trump:

“I’ve said it many times, and let me be clear again: I condemn the [Ku Klux Klan]. I condemn all white supremacists. I condemn the Proud Boys. ”

But why accept a clearcut and definitive statement when conjecture is so much juicier?

Please… let’s play the ‘yes, but’ game.

#159 TurnerNation on 10.06.20 at 10:28 am

The future – in UN “Smart” cities. Once the CERB runs out and jobs are gone, your local prefecture will build the ‘pack em and stack em housing’ pods. Yep CV did that. Or did it?

Oooh shadowy elites, google search for :
agenda 21 + stack em and pack em

Been known for years apparently.
‘Temporary’ they tell us. Remember, flip their statements 180deg to make sense.

https://www.burnabynow.com/temporary-homeless-camps-considered-for-vancouver-city-hall-campus-1.24215543
As for the tiny homes option, staff said it would require “a longer-term process, including thoughtful planning and consultation and considerable research” for it to proceed.

Staff also suggested a sleeping pod with heat, power, a private bathroom and microwave be considered minimum standard if built in Vancouver.

#160 Sara on 10.06.20 at 10:31 am

#155 Sail Away on 10.06.20 at 9:49 am
Wow, think of the effect the Corvid could have if it actually was dangerous!

All these world leaders, millions of people. In that case, the world would be in gigantic turmoil. As it is, most people recover just fine.

But what if?
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Imagine if there were no sociopaths in the world. And even Sail Away had empathy.

Wow.

All these world leaders, millions of people. In that case, perhaps the world would not be in gigantic turmoil.

Of course that will never happen.

But what if?

#161 Ponzius Pilatus on 10.06.20 at 10:40 am

“Joyride” just got another meaning.

#162 Dharma Bum on 10.06.20 at 10:47 am

#155 Sail Away

Wow, think of the effect the Corvid could have if it actually was dangerous!
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Yah!

Remember way back, like in March and April of 2020, when COVID was a thing?

Ahhhhhh….nostalgia.

Silly peeples.

#163 Ponzius Pilatus on 10.06.20 at 10:49 am

155 Sail Away on 10.06.20 at 9:49 am
Wow, think of the effect the Corvid could have if it actually was dangerous!

All these world leaders, millions of people. In that case, the world would be in gigantic turmoil. As it is, most people recover just fine.

But what if?
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Lotsa positions open in the Casa Blanca.
Go and apply and find out.
Dare you.

#164 Sail Away on 10.06.20 at 10:51 am

#131 Faron on 10.05.20 at 11:43 pm

Nice try warping the facts though. You are gonna be sick…

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…for a few days. Then you’ll get better.

#165 Faron on 10.06.20 at 11:09 am

#147 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.06.20 at 8:14 am

Again, wrong. Incubation time and virus shedding are two different things. Further, engineering factors or no, such things exist to keep people safe amd many events (bridge collapses, nuclear disasters etc) show that even they arent enough. There’s a reason tools like you don’t set policy and it isn’t because of your superior grasp on fact.

Nonplussed: Now I am no microbiologist (my daughter is though, but I can’t speak for her)

Two things come mind. 1) duh. 2) you can’t speak for her because she’s educated on the matter and disagrees with your viewpoint?

#166 Faron on 10.06.20 at 11:34 am

160 Sara

Then all the manly mans would lose their hegemonic edge! Penile posturing would fall by the wayside. We couldn’t have that now could we?

#167 conan on 10.06.20 at 11:35 am

Trump is in the same position that Canada’s Conservatives are in. They need the votes of the far right to have a shot at power.
Once the average voter realizes that……

#168 SoggyShorts on 10.06.20 at 11:37 am

#123 Ace Goodheart on 10.05.20 at 11:03 pm
The USA is well on their way to herd immunity.
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Source? You spout a lot of opinions as facts.
I’ve seen no large scale studies on antibodies/T-cell reactivity in America to support your statement. I’m happy to be proven wrong though,
Link please?

#169 Bill on 10.06.20 at 11:51 am

The Post-Pandemic ‘New Normal’ Looks Awfully Authoritarian (T2 gives it his full support…hope you don’t have kids)
https://reason.com/2020/10/05/the-post-pandemic-new-normal-looks-awfully-authoritarian/

#170 TurnerNation on 10.06.20 at 11:55 am

Protests in Toronto. Local V-logger capturing the anti-NWO action.
Of course CBC (Corona Broadcasting Corp.) and CP24 (Coronra Propaganda24) will not be covering:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFnm7oQPDYhXA-JnXmCszdQ/videos

#171 Apocalypse2020 on 10.06.20 at 11:55 am

“Fed chair warns of economic tragedy if America can’t control the coronavirus”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/economy/fed-powell-coronavirus-stimulus/index.html

PREPARE

#172 Cases, cases, cases... on 10.06.20 at 11:57 am

How are those Covid ‘cases’ counted? Ever wonder?

Well, a friend has cousins in Florida and were ‘discussing’ things a few weeks ago.
The cousin with spouse, went to get tested late July – you know, “just to be safe”.
Long lines everywhere and it took about an hour to get to the registration point.
An hour AFTER registration they find out it will be at least another hour before reaching the ‘testing’ area, so they decide to leave it for another day.

Well, a couple days later they receive mail from Health Authorities stating that their Covid test came in “positive”!

But but but….

Truth stranger than fiction folks!

#173 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.06.20 at 12:03 pm

#165 Faron on 10.06.20 at 11:09 am
#147 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.06.20 at 8:14 am

Again, wrong. Incubation time and virus shedding are two different things. Further, engineering factors or no, such things exist to keep people safe amd many events (bridge collapses, nuclear disasters etc) show that even they arent enough. There’s a reason tools like you don’t set policy and it isn’t because of your superior grasp on fact.

Nonplussed: Now I am no microbiologist (my daughter is though, but I can’t speak for her)

Two things come mind. 1) duh. 2) you can’t speak for her because she’s educated on the matter and disagrees with your viewpoint?

5-6 days for incubation time (most infectious), once body shows symptoms, immune response is occurring, Testing shows CT Values rising above the 35 cycles around 3 days after onset symptoms for most age groups, around 5 days for ages above 65. They are now trying to determine if under 32 cycles is still contagious.

The man spent 2 days showing symptoms, 3 days in hospital, wore a mask when around people and took it off, outside, when he was standing by himself on the balcony…

You have me defending someone I don’t particularly enjoy defending, but you are an insufferable bore…

It’s a bit disingenuous to parrot faux outrage and pretend you have the authority to say people are right or wrong. Maybe stick to topics you know something about… like telling everyone what a super-genius you are…

#174 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.06.20 at 12:14 pm

*edit under 35 cycles, at 32 cycles …

#175 Job#1 on 10.06.20 at 12:15 pm

Re poll: I found the choice of answers limited insofar as I felt few of them expressed my opinion on the given topic. Perhaps our host will be able to identify some consensus amongst commenters.

WRT to the link provided by commenter #57 (Bill), the allegations outlined, especially those concerning the core issue of the validity of the PCR tests, are astonishing. With the exception of one other commenter (sorry, can’t remember who), it seems nobody read or picked up on this? I fully expected the budding microbiology experts here to unleash a torrent of criticism.

#176 cto on 10.06.20 at 12:56 pm

“If you want that kind of ownership, I stated, then lower prices (coming fast) are an opportunity. How is that not obvious? – Garth”

I’ll believe it when i see it…
I don’t want a condo, but i am looking at the condo market as a litmus test for the rest of the market,
(urban, rural, houses, cottages, land, etc).

So far the government and BAC have intervened to an extent the it has cost 100s of billions to all Canadians, whether they are invested in real estate or not.

What now? It would be interesting if they spend the rest of my son’s Canadian future prosperity to back stop a slide in the condo market, riddled with specuvestors.

#177 SoggyShorts on 10.06.20 at 12:59 pm

#160 Sara on 10.06.20 at 10:31 am
The same line day after day…
Sail Away was right: you do sound like a nagging wife/broken record.
*shudders*

Here’s a tip: Facts can sometimes sound cold and mean- that’s because they are facts though, and not emotions.

#178 Faron on 10.06.20 at 1:10 pm

#173 ImGonnaBeSick on 10.06.20 at 12:03 pm

So, at the very best, he was at the very cusp of being non infectious based on what is still a very broad range. The very best. His own doctors moments before said they would only be satisfied after another week had passed. He’s the leader of 100% of Americans, 60% of whom follow the CDC guidelines for mask wearing and think it’s important as do all reasonable experts. He was returning to a white house where the virus had just run rampant. And If you think the president of the US is ever alone while standing on a balcony in view of a lense you are sorely mistaken. I’m not going to dig through the archives, but if you have ever disparaged mask wearing here then the hypocrisy of your words claiming his mask wearing in transport was sufficient is astonishing. Yes, facts are a bore, but it’s damn interesting to dig into why people like you defend the gross negligence personified by Trump.

#179 Sean on 10.06.20 at 1:11 pm

A lot of complaining recently about the CAD fed printing too much… but look at what the US is saying.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/economy/fed-powell-coronavirus-stimulus/index.html

They aren’t going to stop, and even think it’s not enough or even if we over shoot, that will be a GOOD thing for the recovery.

Their inflation target for 2% is in 2023!

MMT is here and the US will be leading the way. They have the currency to do it, but we have no choice but to follow.

#180 Linda on 10.06.20 at 1:30 pm

#81 ‘the Jaguar’ – I don’t believe Latino/Black voters will want to vote for Trump. Between the lack of Covid action, the separation of immigrant families AND the recently reported instances of immigrant women in custody being sterilized ‘for medical reasons’ one could argue that the results of the above policies collectively form a case that genocide is occurring in the USA.

#181 Masks really do save lives on 10.06.20 at 1:32 pm

Frankly, whether the Covidiot in Chief wears a mask now or not is irrelevant. Everyone knows to serve him his breakfast with a slingshot. His ignorance of science in general,and the limits of rapid testing in particular, has already kicked off a super-spreader event that has reached the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

#182 Faron on 10.06.20 at 1:53 pm

“…a friend has cousins in Florida…”

So begins every urban legend that ever has graced our computer screens…

#183 NSNG on 10.06.20 at 2:18 pm

It appears former Prime Minister JohnTurner cannot win. Due to covid restrictions, he was only able to deliver a minority funeral.

Fortunately, there won’t be a confidence vote.

#184 Sail Away on 10.06.20 at 2:30 pm

#180 Linda on 10.06.20 at 1:30 pm

#81 ‘the Jaguar’ – I don’t believe Latino/Black voters will want to vote for Trump. Between the lack of Covid action, the separation of immigrant families AND the recently reported instances of immigrant women in custody being sterilized ‘for medical reasons’ one could argue that the results of the above policies collectively form a case that genocide is occurring in the USA.

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Linda, did you know that if you cover your eyes, spin around three times, and say ‘biggle biggle’ backwards, it sounds like ‘gullible’?

#185 HermPine on 10.06.20 at 2:42 pm

The questions require a bit more context. Specifically buying a Condo? I left the GTA in 1985 and it’s appeal has certainly not grown since then. NO THANK YOU to the Condo!! However, if I were to be in the market for one, I believe a more opportune time is upcoming rather than several years down the road when “normal” restores.

#186 Bill on 10.06.20 at 2:57 pm

Garth can you please get this to Justin?
He needs an ejamacation on the environmental impact of his stupid Green plan….This is well done. There is no free lunch as they say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI

#187 jess on 10.06.20 at 3:07 pm

Fed chair warns of economic tragedy if America can’t control the coronavirus
A View from the Federal Reserve Board
Jerome Powell, Chair, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
https://nabe.com

Goldman Sachs: A Democratic sweep would mean faster economic recovery
Goldman Sachs wrote that a blue wave would “sharply raise the probability” of a fiscal stimulus package of at least $2 trillion shortly after the January 20 inauguration. The bank also cited Biden’s longer-term spending plans on infrastructure, climate, health care and education. ”

Moody’s: 7.4 million more jobs under Biden’s plan
Goldman Sachs isn’t the only Wall Street firm to point out the positive benefits of a blue wave.
Moody’s Analytics found that Biden’s economic proposals, if enacted, would create 7.4 million more jobs than would Trump’s. The economy would return to full employment in the second half of 2022, nearly two years earlier than under Trump’s plan, Moody’s said.
“The economic outlook is strongest under the scenario in which Biden and the Democrats sweep Congress and fully adopt their economic agenda,” wrote Moody’s economists led by Mark Zandi, (zillow)who advised Senator John McCain during the 2008 presidential race.
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now only if the financial speakers can convince the “haters” to back Biden

https://abcnews.go.com/US/life-hater-dire-warning-white-power-leaders-son/story?id=73431332

What Pierce does know is that his father(wrote the turner diaries) was a “very intelligent man” with a PhD in physics, who became somewhat lost professionally – that’s when his father began voraciously consuming racist literature

#188 NSNG on 10.06.20 at 3:13 pm

#135 Nonplused on 10.06.20 at 12:36 am

Now I am no microbiologist (my daughter is though, but I can’t speak for her), but I am guessing the reason covid has been so hard on people with previously compromised immune systems is because it is “new” and they don’t have antibodies, and can’t generate them in time.

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Or maybe because it was created in a lab and is a bioweapon and not of nature

#189 Oakville Rocks! on 10.06.20 at 3:19 pm

Looking forward to Wednesday’s debate of the VP and soon to be VP.

It is being reported that Harris & Pence will debate 12 feet and 3 inches apart, separated by plexiglass. Mother (Mrs. Pence) can rest easy and tongues will not be wagging.

So no need for chaperones then. I guess Ward & June Cleaver will have to find something else to do that night.

#190 Bill on 10.06.20 at 3:22 pm

#81 the Jaguar on 10.05.20 at 7:32 pm
#180 Linda on 10.06.20 at 1:30 pm

We spent Jan Feb in Arizona and met some awesome Latinos that imigrated to the US 55 years ago. One guy is a pastor and they suport the wall. They have a different view than most folks watching the msm. Their RV has a massive sign “Trump 2020!!” They go to all his rallies.
Most Candians seem to be cluless at what is really going on…
Lots of veiws that are mere speculation derived from poor sources I believe.

#191 Commander Cracker-dogs Strikes again on 10.06.20 at 3:25 pm

The orange dude is completely off his rocker nutz..

can’t get enough of that Dexa steroid high… pump me full of the stuff

where are the nuke buttons

#192 belly rubs on 10.06.20 at 3:53 pm

I find it curious that the people who stress the seriousness of covid and the need to preserve humanity are apt to warn about the effects of climate change and the damage caused by humanity. Those two ideologies are self defeating.

Kind of like the hypocrisy of eco-warriors shifting gears and turning to social causes with rioting and burning when the fashion strikes them.

I’m not sure if I can justify lockdowns and masks while grumbling about trash backing up our irrigation canal. Too many conflicting views have forced me to customize a blended attitude for myself. Less is more. Dogs are the new cats. So on.

#193 Sara on 10.06.20 at 4:41 pm

#177 SoggyShorts on 10.06.20 at 12:59 pm
#160 Sara on 10.06.20 at 10:31 am
The same line day after day…
Sail Away was right: you do sound like a nagging wife/broken record.
*shudders*

Here’s a tip: Facts can sometimes sound cold and mean- that’s because they are facts though, and not emotions.
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Huh? What’s your point exactly. LOL. Oh I get it. There is no point. This is nothing but a pointless ad hominem. Are you 12?

#194 David Green on 10.07.20 at 3:14 pm

Good lord what a sexist comment.

SoggyShorts on 10.06.20 at 12:59 pm

#160 Sara on 10.06.20 at 10:31 am
The same line day after day…
Sail Away was right: you do sound like a nagging wife/broken record.
*shudders*

Here’s a tip: Facts can sometimes sound cold and mean- that’s because they are facts though, and not emotions.