The big infection

Could Covid take out the leaders of both Canada and the US?

The virus that just won’t quit has lasted longer than most people imagined, continues to chew its way through society, has levelled economies, erased the jobs of hundreds of millions, has public finances circling the drain and now, spectacularly, weakened both Trump and Trudeau. Could this be fatal? Actually, yes.

(A note: Okay, so this is a canine-investing-economic-real estate blog. Got it. But politics are integral to macroeconomics, markets and taxes, and never more so than during a pandemic when politicians turn off the economy. States of emergency have morphed democracies into benign dictatorships, with leaders assuming historic powers. Sometimes they go too far. We may be there.)

First, Mr. Trudeau. He’s been accused of having an ethical blind spot. That’s too kind. He’s sinking into a moral morass of his own making, highlighting a breathtaking lack of judgement.

In short, he awarded a contract of almost $1 billion to an outfit which stood to gain $43 million in payments, and did this without public tender. That’s just weird and unusual. Then it became known the organization in question had hired Trudeau’s mom and brother, paying them almost $300,000 personally. His wife also worked with the same group and had expenses compensated. In fact it was during a WE junket to the UK that Sophie caught the virus which kept the prime minister of Canada holed up in his house for a month as the pandemic raged.

But there’s more. The ‘charity’, WE, owns $50 million in commercial real estate in downtown Toronto and elsewhere through a tangle of corporate offshoots which apparently mingle personal and charitable activities. Where did this money emanate from? The finance minister, Bill Morneau, awarded WE $3 million in funding when his own daughter was an employee. And for years the two bros at the centre of this, the Kielburgers, have been viewed curiously as they raised tens of millions from the pockets of schoolkids and snorfled government money.

Conflict-of-interest does not begin to describe these actions. Trudeau, his spouse, his mother and his brother have been in a relationship with the Kielburgers that bolstered political fortunes while it helped line WE’s pockets. The awarding of a massive untendered government contract that would give these benefactors tens of millions in income seems like a payoff. Perhaps it isn’t. But it doesn’t pass the smell test. Under the cover of a pandemic, when public finances were a mess with millions suffering from virus fallout, did our prime minister reward friends with tax dollars and think that was okay? A blind spot, indeed. In politics, in normal times, this would be a death sentence.

Doubts? Take a look at what Justin Trudeau did for WE – appearing in a video that is an advertisement and an endorsement, as our elected head of state.

At the end of June a healthy 40% of Canadians said they’d vote Lib and T2 had a 74% approval rate. Now he has 36% support in a new survey, and the scandal is just unfolding. This,” the pollster said, “was an example of using a crisis and public funds to help friends and supporters.”

Now, Trump. The polls have turned against him as well. Unless public opinion sampling is as flawed as it was in 2016, he will lose in November. Joe Biden’s lead is double-digits, and seems to be growing stronger as the US body count increases. As of this week there have been four million cases of Covid in the US with 145,000 deaths. Yesterday 65,512 new infections were identified and 1,127 more people passed.

The president downplayed this when the pandemic arrived, then disappeared, then complained there was too much testing going on (the only way to identify, trace and stop infections), then he dissed his top medical guy and, while upholding the Confederate flag and sending scary paramilitary dudes to fight BLM protestors in Portland, said wearing a mask was patriotic after defending the right not to. He has blamed state governors. He blames China. He blames testing.

Trump needs the economy opened since GDP growth and the stock market are proxies for his success. But haste to do so has caused infections to mount, and voter anxiety to grow. His supporters, some of whom hang out here in their camo underwear and mullets, purposefully diminish the virus and claim deaths are falling (they aren’t, apparently) because Covid is killing the Trump presidency. Now that he’s done the mask pivot, he has likely hurt his own base support.

Some say Trudeau will have to resign before the next election. There’s no way out of this ethical mess. WE is in deep trouble. The Liberal brand is being tarnished. Now that we have a $350 billion deficit and a $1 trillion debt, there are only more taxes and hard choices ahead. Meanwhile Trump has helped polarize American society in a way unseen since perhaps the Civil War. The virus just threw one more log on this national bonfire of passions and poisons.

You will long remember 2020. Largely for what’s yet to happen.

238 comments ↓

#1 Inequit on 07.22.20 at 3:34 pm

I am patiently waiting for the headlines: The king is dead.

….good riddance!

#2 Doug t on 07.22.20 at 3:35 pm

BURN IT DOWN BABY – this country just keeps taking shots to the gonads – 2020 the year that everything changed

#3 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.22.20 at 3:36 pm

Chrystia Freeland for President!
She can rule North America AND speak more languages than Trudeau.

That’s my inner Incel speaking.

#4 Felix on 07.22.20 at 3:40 pm

Interesting that a soccer ball, even a tiny one, has an IQ about 65% higher than that of a canine.

#5 Robert B on 07.22.20 at 3:40 pm

Give a politician some room and he’ll take advantage of it. Human nature never fails. I guess Trudeau never thought that people will see through all that free money.

It’s not that Trump has polarized American society but rather the Media has pushed the US to the brink of civil war…

#6 Ray Skunk on 07.22.20 at 3:44 pm

‘Lost chateau’ Billy Morneau also “forgets” that he took $41k from WE in travel and expenses (money raised by schoolkids to provide for the needy, no less) years ago – and paid it back today! Ha!
An absolute cluster of a performance all around from our man in the Panama Papers.

CBC seems to have taken a bit of a turn this week… they know this can’t be buried under Scheer’s mask outrage, and they’re running with it front and centre. Does this mean that the writing’s on the wall and that they’re abandoning their golden boy?
It’s the only hope I have… brainwashed (by WE, at schools where they were allowed to infiltrate) Liberal supporters are still happy to vote for corruption no matter what.

#7 SunShowers on 07.22.20 at 3:45 pm

As reprehensible as Trump’s treatment of immigrants at the border is (yes I know Obama kept kids in cages too. Trump and Obama are both bad), I don’t understand why the House didn’t impeach Trump on his flagrant, egregious violations of the emoluments clause, as he has clearly and indefensibly personally profited from his position.

It’s even more obvious and airtight of a case than what Trudeau did (I am not defending Trudeau. Trudeau and Trump are both bad).

#8 BrockOutWest on 07.22.20 at 3:51 pm

Ethical blind spot is should be used for something like your preference of being a vegetarian or not. Justin Turdeau has shown himself repeatedly to be tone deaf, nepotistic and even for a politician, corrupt through self enrichment.

Family kickbacks, SNC, Khadr payout, the number of times this family has used public coffers for making virtue signals is disgusting amd dating to the rest of the country. And that’s just this current one, his father has his own list as well.

Wherever we are in 20 years I’m sure T3 will be elected and we’ll have another massive generational deficit created by this family, again.

#9 Politics 101 on 07.22.20 at 3:52 pm

I have a love-hate relationship with Trudeau and Trump. I love that they make me feel smart, but hate how they make me feel poor… #trustfundsforeveryone

#10 Franco on 07.22.20 at 3:53 pm

I am just sick and tired of the mess we created. We get what we deserve.

#11 blogshark on 07.22.20 at 3:55 pm

Trudeau majority with the highest seat count since Mulrooney, another former PM with a crooked kid.

You’ve lost track of Main Street when focusing all your time on Bay Street.

#12 The Wet One on 07.22.20 at 3:55 pm

“The virus that just won’t quit has lasted longer than most people imagined,”

That’s because most people apparently had terrible imagination and a poor grasp of history or virology.

But yeah….

Why on earth would anyone think that this pandemic would only last 5 or 6 months?

Only an ignorant person would think that.

Honestly.

Read some microbiology and virology textbooks. They’re there for the reading at your local university library?

Too much work?

Then shut the hell up with your ignorant take on things.

There’s more than enough stupid floating around out there without you adding to it.

Maybe try asking your doctor who actually has a clue.

Honestly.

The stupid.

It BURNS!!!!

#13 Phil on 07.22.20 at 3:56 pm

Corrupt, self-serving politicians? What a surprise!
We will probably do as we always do, instead of electing a new leader, we will just throw out the old one for spite.

#14 baloney Sandwitch on 07.22.20 at 3:56 pm

The WE charity needs to be audited by CRA. Very bad smell is emnating from that cess pool.

#15 Democracy Is Mob Rule on 07.22.20 at 3:57 pm

Trudeau can easily win a majority in the next election if he promises to implement a UBI. Voters can be bought.

#16 Don Guillermo on 07.22.20 at 3:58 pm

Thank you for this post!

#17 The West on 07.22.20 at 3:59 pm

@crowdedelevatorfartz

Freeland already is the leader of Canada….

…really, you though Justin’s testosterone levels were THAT low…

Get a grip man!

#18 Democracy Is Mob Rule on 07.22.20 at 4:01 pm

Whichever way the US election goes, nobody on either side will accept the result.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/nobody-will-accept-2020-election-result/

#19 Buy? Curious? on 07.22.20 at 4:08 pm

Garth, did you know Justin Trudeau was such a male genital? How could he get away with this? I knew he was one because, well, let’s just I say I know. Ever trust male feminists! They are the sneakiest people!

#20 Damifino on 07.22.20 at 4:08 pm

At the end of June a healthy 40% of Canadians said they’d vote Lib and T2 had a 74% approval rate. Now he has 36% support in a new survey, and the scandal is just unfolding
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The PM’s concept of fair play has been deeply suspect since the day he took office. Canadians have so far been quick to overlook his many ethical transgressions. One wonders what is different now.

This is a man who demoted his own Minister of Justice for attempting to uphold the law. (Who remembers the day a House of Commons full of women literally turned their backs on him?)

It’s hard to see how the current kerfuffle supersedes a half dozen other highly questionable moves. Is it finally a case of ‘a bridge too far’? If so, it demonstrates how much Canadians will tolerate before saying enough is enough.

#21 Buford Wilson on 07.22.20 at 4:10 pm

Trump will be re-elected. He endorsed mask wearing.

Justin will have to resign.

#22 Onlooker on 07.22.20 at 4:15 pm

It’s ok, everyone. Today, Bill paid WE back his $41k in family travel expenses incurred in 2017. Pure coincidence on the timing. Nothing to see here.

#23 Steven Nicolle on 07.22.20 at 4:15 pm

What Trudeau did is mind boggling. The sense of entitlement his whole family let alone him think they have is mind numbing. If he does not get the boot for this we are undeserving of the right to vote. As for Trump you hit the nail on the head.
I know politics is crooked but if I was younger I would run and wake people up in this country and fight for change. We need a leader a person with passion.

#24 What a disgrace on 07.22.20 at 4:16 pm

Trudeau is a disgrace. I really hope voters see how morally bankrupt he really is. Up to this point people have bought into his fake apologies from everything from the multiple black face appearances / dress up – all the way up to this WE mess. I’m tired of this bozo tricking the masses with his soft spoken, perfectly done hair – all the while lying and stealing tax payers money. He is a classic example of a white privileged Male idiot. He didn’t get my vote the last 2 times and I really hope they boot him out of office. . . Unless he continues to use his “personal” days until the end of his term. What a disgrace.

#25 Mithan on 07.22.20 at 4:17 pm

It blows my mind away that anti-mask people actually exist….

#26 CJohnC on 07.22.20 at 4:18 pm

The video is as inappropriate as it is nauseating. Biggest problem Canada has is there are no electable alternatives to the Liberals at the moment.

#27 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.22.20 at 4:18 pm

@#16 The West
Its a shame you aren’t coherent in one of Canada’s official languages.
Wanna try that again in French?
So I may understand what in the “H” “E” “doublehockeysticks” you’re talking about?

#28 DownToFinance on 07.22.20 at 4:19 pm

Not a snowballs chance in hell T2 will resign. He didn’t resign after JWR, Lavscam and Blackface. Why would he resign now? Besides, he just paid half the country 8k in CERB for the summer to stay home and play Call of Duty.

#29 dogman01 on 07.22.20 at 4:21 pm

Some good observations yesterday, nice to see others are observing what I also see.

#11 Ace Goodheart on 07.21.20 at 2:56 pm

“Money means nothing anymore. It is all about how much you are able to borrow.”

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Wow Ace – you aced that!

We were out shopping for a new RV Trailer, my wife was quite disgruntled as our “real money” was competing with a pool of unlimited debt financing.

#22 NSNG on 07.21.20 at 3:47 pm

“I’m wondering if the sudden urge to mandate mask wearing is because only about half the population was wearing masks and this sends a very strong visual signal from the non-mask wearers that they weren’t buying what the government was selling.”
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It was a clear display that the “fear propaganda campaign” and the Covid Broadcasting Corporation did not have sufficient efficacy.

Regardless of my thought on masks, I am glad some Canadians still have it in them to not comply.

#30 Marco on 07.22.20 at 4:23 pm

UBI and Justin, forever and if you do not like it you can go to the USA

#31 Dolce Vita on 07.22.20 at 4:25 pm

HEADS UP Garth and fellow Blog Dogs…

Just picked this up on my Twitter feed about alarming Rt values out of Western Canada, esp. MN:

https://i.imgur.com/B9tzJe4.jpg

Here is the Twitter post:

https://twitter.com/DFisman/status/1285932184960933898

Still trying to track down the data source for authenticity.

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The MN number, that was Italia at its peak pandemic. The AB, BC numbers are pretty high. I’d wear a mask in public if I were you in those 3 provinces and the rest, distancing, etc.

Hope the Health Officers and their people are testing like crazy, contract tracing even more crazy, to nip those numbers in the bud.

Stay safe people.

#32 Don Guillermo on 07.22.20 at 4:29 pm

#6 Ray Skunk on 07.22.20 at 3:44 pm
‘Lost chateau’ Billy Morneau also “forgets” that he took $41k from WE in travel and expenses (money raised by schoolkids to provide for the needy, no less) years ago – and paid it back today! Ha!
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This is funny, Morneau says “to his complete surprise” he noticed some outstanding payments from 3 years ago that he forgot to pay back … I guess if you can forget about your French Villa. it’s possible. We Canucks are so forgiving.

#33 Jake on 07.22.20 at 4:33 pm

“His supporters, some of whom hang out here in their camo underwear and mullets”

Too funny, probably true though.

#34 Brian Ripley on 07.22.20 at 4:33 pm

My Housing Starts charts are up with June data:

http://www.chpc.biz/housing-starts.html

The big chart with start levels since 1956 includes as well, a census plot which continues to tick up against the Canadian national starts plot which has been in a downtrend of lower highs into 2012 with a higher high in 2017 but which has since dropped off as well.

With the pandemic in full bloom, I expect another low in housing starts in 3Q 2020.

Apart from state suppressed interest rates which in part was to stimulate risk taking in the production sector, the chart does not show that we are producing enough housing in terms of ready supply.

Perhaps those quaint office towers of paper pushers should consider remaking their edifices into residential family housing with educational classrooms and daycare facilities.

#35 Kozmonot on 07.22.20 at 4:34 pm

Move along, folks …. nothing to see here!

#36 Dolce Vita on 07.22.20 at 4:35 pm

You know Garth, I just got more on that whole WE scandal from your Blog than from days of reading hapless CDN MSM articles and the Social Media rumour mill (all in > Ethics, Morals, Good Governance

Cdns selling themselves out, lock, stock and barrel to Trudeau. Seems everyone has a price and Trudeau knows that well.

#37 kingston boy on 07.22.20 at 4:35 pm

with any luck, T2 and T-rump will be in the rearview mirror soon. Looking forward to Biden and whomever takes over from scheer. low bar I know.

#38 JacqueShellacque on 07.22.20 at 4:36 pm

Virtue signallers don’t do wrong (in their own eyes), their activities can always be justified for the greater good, as they know what’s best for us. Trudeau will stay unless cabinet turns against him, and cabinet will only turn against him if there’s a viable alternative leader AND they think they need to dump him to win. I don’t think either of those conditions hold. Resignation for having acted dishonorably is definitely not in the cards.

As for Trump, he can’t be blamed either for the virus or for the response, which in the US is largely meant to be local. It could still kick him out of the WH, but i wouldn’t be so sure. It’ll be messy though, think 2000 with multiple paths to electoral college victory, each state involved contested well past election day. Everyone with financial assets should hedge against that.

#39 Q on 07.22.20 at 4:38 pm

Canadian voters are incredibly apathetic. They ought to care but it’s doubtful they will. They’ll just keep ticking the box for their favourite colour on the voter card.

#40 dogman01 on 07.22.20 at 4:39 pm

For years I worked with School Teachers. In general there was an belief in the “hope of youth”, that the young can be imprinted with “positive values”.

A few of the teachers were working on creating “critical thinkers”, but often it was more of a prescriptive dogma that would be considered left but certainly positive.

“We Day” became part of the program, it would be broadcast in the schools and a cohort of students would attend the mass gatherings. WE was perfectly crafted to align to the “hope of youth” dogma. It was evangelical in its methods.

So I am not at all surprised, Trudeau as a teacher in his formative years would gravitate to WE and I could also actually credit him with the same emotional based decision making that I seemed ubiquitous with K-12 educators. “Peoplekind” being but one example of a “Teacher” momment.

Once they made Principal they transformed into hard-ass bare-knuckle real world juggler’s of and negotiators for resources.

#41 Lefty on 07.22.20 at 4:44 pm

In 2019, T2 lost the popular vote to a pro-life, Surprise-American candidate. Blackface and Blanchet have become 200% more toxic in 2020. With a semi lucid leader, the Cons are getting a majority. Easy.

Chateau Bill can host WE days in the guest ballroom

#42 Dolce Vita on 07.22.20 at 4:47 pm

I think the biggest slap in the face to this Canadian was when Trudeau says:

“…I should have recused myself…”

from the $1 Billion selection process, some process that was as it was single source. Then Morneau says the same thing (je me récuser).

There are a lot of Business people and ilk that read this Blog probably just shaking their heads in disbelief at the audacity, cheek and brazeness of those two dimwits (as in could mess up a piss up in a brewery dimwitted).

Then Freeland says that they made a mistake and have to learn from it.

FAT chance, a snowball’s hope in Hades of THAT happening, 3rd time around Chrysta and if this were baseball…

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Well TORONTO and MONTREAL, you voted them in, all I will say to you is:

ENJOY.

Or maybe it’s how they do things in Toronto and Montreal, so, it’s all good (just keep sending us the CERB money though).

#43 dr talc on 07.22.20 at 4:49 pm

A misstep? There are no accidents in politics.
It’s just a scripted changing of the guard. But I wont vote again. Kenny says there’s a special place in hell for his constituents, Ford calls his constituents ‘yahoos’
I’m out.

#44 Yukon Elvis on 07.22.20 at 4:50 pm

#3 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.22.20 at 3:36 pm
Chrystia Freeland for President!

She can rule North America AND speak more languages than Trudeau.

That’s my inner Incel speaking.
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You must have been Incel for a very long time.

#45 jal on 07.22.20 at 4:51 pm

Ethics
Your ethics does not float to the top
Don’t assume that the elites with their enablers have the same ethics as you …. hypocrites

#46 Wuhan we got y'all in check on 07.22.20 at 4:51 pm

Take a look at what Justin Trudeau did for WE – appearing in a video that is an advertisement and an endorsement, as our head of state.

I believe the Queen is our Head of State

#47 TurnerNation on 07.22.20 at 4:52 pm

Are these guys the “elite rulers” I’m always going on about?

As for the world, I’m afraid what’s going on now is simple, established and proven slave training. Everything now is reward based. We will get some freedoms back only if we comply comply comply.
Check your local retail store. Its front will have 6-12 pages taped to it. All rules to be followed. Else you cannot transact commerce. Facts.

This New System unleashed in March will not be going away. Many more components will be introduced – incrementalism – A.I. monitoring; CV app tracking; Bluetooth bracelets (already being piloted in Ontario with a Ministry and a TSX-listed company), travel certificates, testing, you name it. A global control grid so perverse and widespread.
Toronto got extra punishment: No ‘Stage 3’ yet and they banned the baseball team. Comply, or else.

#48 no blog for old men on 07.22.20 at 4:56 pm

@#43 Yukon Elvis on 07.22.20 at 4:50 pm
#3 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.22.20 at 3:36 pm
Chrystia Freeland for President!

She can rule North America AND speak more languages than Trudeau.

That’s my inner Incel speaking.
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You must have been Incel for a very long time.

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fartz is a natural born incel

#49 Penny Henny on 07.22.20 at 5:03 pm

#21 Onlooker on 07.22.20 at 4:15 pm
It’s ok, everyone. Today, Bill paid WE back his $41k in family travel expenses incurred in 2017. Pure coincidence on the timing. Nothing to see here.
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Not only did he pay them back, he apologized too!

#50 Woke Canadian on 07.22.20 at 5:11 pm

Once the students realize their principles and youth have been stolen from them by multi- millionaire politicrats they will never vote Liberal as an entire generation. As the song goes – “You can’t always get what you want – sometimes you get what you need.” Just like students and Tik Tok took Trump for a fool in Oklahoma – Canadian students will slice and dice the Liberals every chance they get. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Pack your bags T2 and gang. You are done.

#51 Sail Away on 07.22.20 at 5:11 pm

I couldn’t tell- did Trudeau have a can of Goya beans in that endorsement?

#52 WTF on 07.22.20 at 5:12 pm

Naa minor issue,

The kids love T2.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/young-canadians-flock-to-tiktok-to-thank-daddy-trudeau-for-cerb-spending-sprees-1.1469011

#53 Penny Henny on 07.22.20 at 5:15 pm

#21 Onlooker on 07.22.20 at 4:15 pm
It’s ok, everyone. Today, Bill paid WE back his $41k in family travel expenses incurred in 2017. Pure coincidence on the timing. Nothing to see here.
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How wasn’t WE’s account receivable department not sending invoices to Morneau for his outstanding balance owed? Maybe they had his old French chateau address??

#54 Westcdn on 07.22.20 at 5:15 pm

I don’t know whether people are strong or weak until I test them. I think Trump and T2 greatest failures are being a lousy judge of character. Always fun to have a sycophant praising the ground you walk. I rather have people what they think although it can cause me discomfort. But be rest assured, I will answer or react.

Silver is making a strong move. I will have to wait to see where it goes. Preferreds are still ticking well for me. I don’t where I will go next but it is looking tough. I would suggest tsla owners sell some.

#55 Mathew GIBSON on 07.22.20 at 5:16 pm

I voted against Harper and felt I had to vote Liberal to ensure his ouster, but that was the only time.

I’d vote for Crystia Freeland, however. Smart, hardworking, good judgement.

Otherwise I’ll park my vote with the Greens for lack of a better party.

#56 T on 07.22.20 at 5:17 pm

#24 Mithan on 07.22.20 at 4:17 pm
It blows my mind away that anti-mask people actually exist….

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They are everywhere, even here. Tread carefully else the trolls will Bytor you.

#57 Marco on 07.22.20 at 5:20 pm

#41

Well, people in Canada love Trudeau for same reason you love EU

#58 You know val on 07.22.20 at 5:21 pm

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#59 Pat on 07.22.20 at 5:24 pm

Trudeau is our Prime Minister, not our head of state. Our actual head of state is the symbolic nice old lady on our twenty.

Doubts? Take a look at what Justin Trudeau did for WE – appearing in a video that is an advertisement and an endorsement, as our head of state.

Doesn’t change that this endorsement is just as bad as the Trump / Goya incident, just easier to spin with better PR because charity….

Did Goya get a billion dollar federal contract? – Garth

#60 Freedom First on 07.22.20 at 5:24 pm

I know there is a lot of good and honest people in the world from all over the globe. It is sad so many public figures world wide are not good and honest people.

I am very glad to still be able to find, read about, and see, so many dishonest people being exposed for all to see, on Garth’s Blog.

Everything, from the financial to the political, that is done in the dark, will be revealed in the light. The truth always comes out, eventually.

#61 BlogDog123 on 07.22.20 at 5:28 pm

You need an Ethics commission with teeth and determination to get to the bottom of this festering stinkhole. Not sure we have that.

The unfortunate thing is if this drags on too long, it’ll become a “whatever” issue like our PM who frequently in his adult life enjoys wearing costumes or makeup misappropriating other cultures.

Morneau forgetting 41k is like a rounding error to him. The unburying of this today is to “get ahead of the story” on his part.

And unless Scheer and co. get their act together and find an electable leader that people aren’t scared of, we’re stuck with the libs for a very long time.

#62 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.22.20 at 5:33 pm

Compared to Trump, our Prime Minister is a boy scout.

#63 Joseph R. on 07.22.20 at 5:34 pm

“then he dissed his top medical guy and, while upholding the Confederate flag and sending scary paramilitary dudes to fight BLM protestors in Portland”

If it’s determined that Trump used federal troops as his personal goon squad, Joe Biden, if elected, will have to make a call.

As such, Biden may very well pardon everyone who were arrested and convicted due to these goons since Trump bypassed basic tenets of law and order

#64 aW on 07.22.20 at 5:35 pm

I think you’re overestimating the Canadian electorate. Most voters haven’t even heard of this scandal, of those that have, most don’t understand it. Most of the rest either don’t care or see it as partisan tantrum-throwing.

He’s got great hair. He will be fine. Sad but true.

#65 Faron on 07.22.20 at 5:37 pm

As I’ve posted, CERB was a necessary program/evil. As such had no influenece on my like/dislike of Trudeau. But now the WE BS is just gross esp. following on SNC Lavalan. He lost a big chunk of the left-of-liberal when he backtracked on voting reform and the rest when he bought the pipeline. Door’s wide open for a centrist conservative to take a sizeable majority. Wont get my vote as I moved center to defeat Harper and voted green in the most recent election. But, said candidate will win if they exist.

Trudeau has truly “bought the pipe” now.

In my opinion.

#66 Long-Time Lurker on 07.22.20 at 5:38 pm

You need to look up Andy Ngo on Twitter to see what’s really going on in Portland. The “protestors” are trying to burn down a federal courthouse.

#67 Long-Time Lurker on 07.22.20 at 5:40 pm

>Jair Bolsonaro update. He’s still testing positive for Covid-19. It’s been three weeks now.

Brazil’s Bolsonaro tests positive for the novel coronavirus again

BRASILIA, July 22 (Reuters) – Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has had another positive result for the novel coronavirus in the third test he has taken since falling ill on July 7, a secretariat of the Communications Ministry said on Wednesday.

“The test carried out on the president yesterday, on the 21st, showed a positive result,” a statement said. “President Bolsonaro is still in good condition, accompanied by the presidency’s medical team,” it added. (Reporting by Lisandra Paraguassu; Writing by Gabriela Mello; Editing by Andrew Heavens)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/brazils-bolsonaro-tests-positive-for-the-novel-coronavirus-again/ar-BB173gKB?OCID=ansmsnnews11

#68 Faron on 07.22.20 at 5:40 pm

And WE always just… seemed… creepy to me. Like Gian long before he was outed. Now I know why perhaps…

#69 Long-Time Lurker on 07.22.20 at 5:41 pm

#65 Long-Time Lurker on 07.22.20 at 5:40 pm

>Jair Bolsonaro update…

Sorry, two weeks.

#70 Andrewski on 07.22.20 at 5:46 pm

“It’s called a dress code Kevin”

https://thechive.com/2020/07/22/marine-shares-his-two-cents-on-why-you-should-wear-a-mask-video/

#71 Steve on 07.22.20 at 5:48 pm

My brother is a social worker and his wife a teacher. Asked him what he thought of the WE scandal and he seriously didn’t know what I was even talking about.

He and his wife play video games all day long. They are who is responsible for teaching the youth today.

Trudeau will be re-elected, and this time with a majority. Only hope in hell is if Ford runs Federal Conservative.

#72 Oracle of Ottawa on 07.22.20 at 5:51 pm

And they said nothing good can come out of this pandemic. But you know the Conservative will screw this up just like they did in Ontario with bad leadership and bad policies. Which allowed the Liberals to stay in power far longer than they should have.

#73 Ronaldo on 07.22.20 at 5:53 pm

#61 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.22.20 at 5:33 pm
Compared to Trump, our Prime Minister is a boy scout.
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I would say Beaver Scout.

#74 Calgary on 07.22.20 at 6:09 pm

Banks pulled back on mortgages; preparing for Sep’s dafaults.

#75 Lambchop on 07.22.20 at 6:13 pm

I also don’t believe that justin’s massive ego will allow him to resign.

I sincerely hope that the rest of the members of Canada’s political field band together and declare no confidence and do the same thing that happened to the provincial Liberals in BC.
No confidence, followed by 2 opposition parties being permitted by lieutenant Governor (governor general at federal level) to form a coalition to create a majority. No election, and no more Christie Clark. Win/win.

Why is it so difficult to find even a half decent person to head the opposition party?

#76 Mutt on 07.22.20 at 6:16 pm

Goto CDC website and try to find one clinical study on mask use against flu viruses. All the studies there say they provide no protection from influenza viruses!

#77 Anna on 07.22.20 at 6:16 pm

I think the we scandal will just be forgotten and ignored like the other Trudeau scandals by the liberal base.

Even if Trudeau commuted murder my immigrant mother would still vote for him, and say it was fake news promoted by The Conservatives! She thinks he can do no wrong! So frustrating.

#78 Joseph R. on 07.22.20 at 6:17 pm

#41 Dolce Vita on 07.22.20 at 4:47 pm
I think the biggest slap in the face to this Canadian was when Trudeau says:

“…I should have recused myself…”

from the $1 Billion selection process, some process that was as it was single source. Then Morneau says the same thing (je me récuser).

There are a lot of Business people and ilk that read this Blog probably just shaking their heads in disbelief at the audacity, cheek and brazeness of those two dimwits (as in could mess up a piss up in a brewery dimwitted).

Then Freeland says that they made a mistake and have to learn from it.

FAT chance, a snowball’s hope in Hades of THAT happening, 3rd time around Chrysta and if this were baseball…

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Well TORONTO and MONTREAL, you voted them in, all I will say to you is:

ENJOY.

Or maybe it’s how they do things in Toronto and Montreal, so, it’s all good (just keep sending us the CERB money though).

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Maritime Provinces and Vancouver also voted the Liberals in. NDP did well in the rest of BC, although most here see the NDP = Liberals.

#79 Blog Dog du Jour on 07.22.20 at 6:22 pm

But he has four more years to wait out the scandal unfortunately.

As for the scamdemic it is really an epidemic not a pandemic. Did you notice in high school the smart kids went into STEM, law, medicine and the idiots went into journalism? The media has betrayed Canada.

350 jobs lost per death (of average age above the national life expectancy) within range of annual flu+pneumonia.

Authorities misleading the public by not publishing morbidity stats together with the deaths. Amounts to high treason.

Paid snowflakes to stay home for nothing while not insisting they work on farms to feed the country whilst immigrant workers were dying instead

Worst deficit spend ($350 billion) in history from the man who thinks deficits pay for themselves

Now anyone who did work to build a career with little to no support have to bail out the entitled children who are to be infinitely coddled by the Libs and WE

Seems basically like a wealth transfer scheme that also keeps the Liberals in power

#80 Stoph on 07.22.20 at 6:23 pm

The idea of having kids to contribute to society through a paid ‘volunteer’ program to fight COVID is actually not a bad idea; better than having them sit at home collecting CERB. (Wait a minute, could kids have collected CERB and their volunteering stipend?). The attempted implementation through WE however is an obvious violation of conflict of interest. The ends don’t justify the means.

When you get paid to volunteer, isn’t that called ‘work’? – Garth

#81 kappa on 07.22.20 at 6:25 pm

“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark”.

I am disgusted seeing so many people in Canada still voting for such leaders. The prime minister is simply an embarrassment for this nation.

Not sure whether we should be all that surprised though. Liberals won an election even after the SNC-Lavalin affair and will probably win another one regardless of who knows how many other conflict-of-interest and corruption scandals. It’s just the way people vote in key electoral jurisdictions. Trudeau obviously got to 70% approval ratings based on throwing CERB money like there’s no tomorrow. And he obviously used that kind of popularity as a blank check.

I hate to say it, but: the moral fiber of the leaders is a reflection of the nation.

#82 ain't life rand on 07.22.20 at 6:25 pm

@#77 Joseph R. on 07.22.20 at 6:17 pm
#41 Dolce Vita on 07.22.20 at 4:47 pm
I think the biggest slap in the face to this Canadian was when Trudeau says:

“…I should have recused myself…”

from the $1 Billion selection process, some process that was as it was single source. Then Morneau says the same thing (je me récuser).

There are a lot of Business people and ilk that read this Blog probably just shaking their heads in disbelief at the audacity, cheek and brazeness of those two dimwits (as in could mess up a piss up in a brewery dimwitted).

Then Freeland says that they made a mistake and have to learn from it.

FAT chance, a snowball’s hope in Hades of THAT happening, 3rd time around Chrysta and if this were baseball…

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Well TORONTO and MONTREAL, you voted them in, all I will say to you is:

ENJOY.

Or maybe it’s how they do things in Toronto and Montreal, so, it’s all good (just keep sending us the CERB money though).

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Maritime Provinces and Vancouver also voted the Liberals in. NDP did well in the rest of BC, although most here see the NDP = Liberals.
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shows what a mess the conservative party was/is

#83 The Totally Unbiased, Highly Intelligent, Rational Observer on 07.22.20 at 6:26 pm

“At the end of June a healthy 40% of Canadians said they’d vote Lib and T2 had a 74% approval rate. Now he has 36% support in a new survey, and the scandal is just unfolding.” — Garth

Give it up, Garth. Times have changed. Just fold that WE, little, tiny, alleged, so-called “scandal” back up and tuck it away. A billion dollars here or there is nothing in the big scheme of things. Many Canadians now have totally different ideas about right and wrong than Canadians used to have. The basic idea is to take whatever was once considered to be sensible, right, true, scientific, legal, moral, etc. and simply do the opposite.

Those who voted for Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party of Canada certainly were not voting for old-fashioned responsible behavior. They were tired of boring, old, responsible types like Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper. They wanted to throw off all restraint and try something different.

Think about this. During the election campaign leading up to Justin Trudeau’s first term as Prime Minister of Canada, these were some of his major talking points that got him elected:

1. Legalizing marijuana.

2. Charging climate change carbon taxes.

3. Supporting the LGBTQ agenda.

4. Supporting abortion.

5. Letting the federal deficit take care of itself.

#84 n1tro on 07.22.20 at 6:27 pm

Prediction:

Trudeau will hold a press conference. Shed some tears. Flip his hair and apologize. Brainless supporters will feel sorry for him and let this one slide as “we are all human and make mistakes”.

#85 the Jaguar on 07.22.20 at 6:28 pm

Part of the reason this blog is so successful (in addition to the charm and intelligence of its host ) is because people want the truth. And they know they are not getting it from mainstream media anymore. The CBC is the voice of far left liberal gibberjab regardless of which party is in power, true investigative journalism is mostly dead with only a few brave warriors still standing, and an everyday perusal of print media reveals paid shills such as the Haider-Moranis contributions on the status of the real estate market. Enough said.

Point being, there will always be those who accept whatever kibble is laid out before them by the aforementioned ‘sources’, but increasingly many of us get our truth from other places. Trusting in legacy news sources such as the New York Times, CNN, or sadly even official ‘government inquiries or commissions ‘ such as the RussiaGate probe south of the border yield only bias, lies, and empty conspiracy theories. One debacle after another. Mercy.

Tribalism may be an unpopular concept for those who prefer to think of Canada or America as a ‘melting pot’, but it’s all around us and it ain’t going anywhere soon. The reality is that it probably never will. If we would just stop blowing smoke up our own ass and admit that we all seek compatibility of interest and aspiration we would be happier and more productive.

If a person takes enormous risks to flee gang violence, marxism, communism, corruption, and crime from the country of their origin why would they endorse any party or entity that is aligned with those values or has financially funded those values? And while they may support equal opportunity and mutual respect, the tendency to close ranks and vote their unique community values will always take priority. Keep an eye out for this in November and turn off CNN.

We have our own version of tribalism here in Canada, but it doesn’t begin to compare with the division south of the border. It won’t be about the Red or Blue vote, but the vote to preserve safety, law and order, ensure any resurgence of dictatorships and related corruption is left behind with no intrusion into present day life.

As for our current Prime Minister, where are no words except maybe shame. On him, on our nation, and I expect something even more scandalous when the whole truth comes out, if it does. Where have you gone Christie Blatchford, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you, woo woo woo……………

#86 Dutchy on 07.22.20 at 6:36 pm

And why will the COVID pandemic pass,
but the WE story (storm in a teapot) will not ??

#87 Cpdlc on 07.22.20 at 6:39 pm

Justin Trudeau is to WE what Tom Cruise is to Scientology. Cults plain and simple.

#88 Shirl Clarts on 07.22.20 at 6:40 pm

#32 Don Guillermo on 07.22.20 at 4:29 pm
#6 Ray Skunk on 07.22.20 at 3:44 pm
‘Lost chateau’ Billy Morneau also “forgets” that he took $41k from WE in travel and expenses (money raised by schoolkids to provide for the needy, no less) years ago – and paid it back today! Ha!
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This is funny, Morneau says “to his complete surprise” he noticed some outstanding payments from 3 years ago that he forgot to pay back … I guess if you can forget about your French Villa. it’s possible. We Canucks are so forgiving.

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Tsk tsk, Morneau. Who knew public life would be so… public?

#89 Bytor the Snow Dog on 07.22.20 at 6:46 pm

#178 Sara last blog on 07.22.20 at 2:33 pm lols, responding to post 165 last blog made by Sara:

“#165 Thanks! Trolling the trolls is fun! I love this blog!”
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Did you forget which identity you were on?

#90 Stoph on 07.22.20 at 6:49 pm

If these events take Trudeau out, I wonder if Jody Wilson-Raybould would try to become leader of the Liberal party – she certainly could claim the moral high ground.

#91 Yukon Elvis on 07.22.20 at 6:53 pm

#79 Blog Dog du Jour on 07.22.20 at 6:22 pm

Seems basically like a wealth transfer scheme that also keeps the Liberals in power.
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You nailed it Bubba. The Children of the Beaver want free stuff and they are gonna get it thru the ballot box. Whoever offers the most free stuff is gonna win.

#92 TheDood on 07.22.20 at 6:54 pm

#27 DownToFinance on 07.22.20 at 4:19 pm

Not a snowballs chance in hell T2 will resign. He didn’t resign after JWR, Lavscam and Blackface. Why would he resign now? Besides, he just paid half the country 8k in CERB for the summer to stay home and play Call of Duty.

#38 Q on 07.22.20 at 4:38 pm
Canadian voters are incredibly apathetic. They ought to care but it’s doubtful they will. They’ll just keep ticking the box for their favourite colour on the voter card.

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Besides the opportunity and right to vote, what weapons do taxpayers have to remove elected leaders from office? Corruption on full display – as it has been for our current government the last couple of years – should be enough to call our leader out, pull down the pants, use the bamboo switch, and a boot in the a__ on the way out the door.

I think the right to vote is no longer good enough.

#93 Costco Nation on 07.22.20 at 6:55 pm

Freeland distancing. Subtle, first from Payette. Shooting at disident status to capture the highest seat. Mesmerizing. https://twitter.com/ChrystyaFreela1/status/1285758644974485517?s=19

#94 Coho on 07.22.20 at 6:55 pm

Trump has been blamed for everything so not surprising he’s pointing back with his own blame game.

The USA has been in a quasi civil war since T was elected. The world is at war, it’s just not an all out shooting war yet. Modern warfare comes with many faces.

Biden, intelligence agencies, media and others are deep state. T appears to be sponsored by another faction. There’s no good guys in this. It’s all bad. The people do not have anyone who truly represents them.

The difference between T and Biden is that T is attempting to strengthen America whereas Biden/DS is all about weakening America and aligned with the powers behind China and others. The push to weaken America went into high gear during the Bush 1 and 2, Clinton and Obama administrations.

If HRC was elected in 2016, the quiet decline of the USA would have continued. There wouldn’t have been attempts at impeachment and the country would not have been torn apart, more so just dying a slow death. Probably no Covid either as this is the last of a string of events to remove T and cause further disruption and hardship for the people the world over.

As far as our T (Trudeau), does he not behave like Canada is his own personal property? And how did this whole WE issue got through cabinet with objection or due process. People are asking who else is involved in the WE scandal. Perhaps a more pertinent question is who isn’t? A billion dollars can grease a lot of hands.

#95 Trojan House on 07.22.20 at 6:56 pm

What does it matter if we “open” the economies up again anyway? By ordering us to wear masks and to social distance, aren’t governments saying to us that we all have the virus? In fact, I would argue that is what they are assuming, not to mention the fact that it seems everyone has bought into it. For example, if you walk down the street on the side walk, doesn’t everyone move at least 20 feet over, while looking at you like you might infect them?

This whole asymptomatic spread would definitely indicate that we all have it otherwise why would we all need to wear a mask and social distance?

I guess it is time to “open” society back up because shutting everything down obviously won’t help since we’re all infected anyway.

#96 Yuus bin Haad on 07.22.20 at 6:56 pm

I went to the local TSC to pick up some camo underwear, but didn’t find any – I looked all over – couldn’t see it anywhere.

#97 Orange Man....Orange on 07.22.20 at 6:57 pm

“Meanwhile Trump has helped polarize American society in a way unseen since perhaps the Civil War.” – Garth

Correct, but misleading. The US media complex has been on a scorched earth campaign against Trump since his election. The average American? Not so much. What has become abundantly clear to them though is that one must now lie about their political leanings to keep their job.

It’s more likely that the Silent Majority understand how to use the voting booth and are quietly waiting to rain fire and brimstone on the Democrats.

#98 OK, Doomer on 07.22.20 at 7:01 pm

#63 Joseph R. on 07.22.20 at 5:34 pm
“then he dissed his top medical guy and, while upholding the Confederate flag and sending scary paramilitary dudes to fight BLM protestors in Portland”

If it’s determined that Trump used federal troops as his personal goon squad, Joe Biden, if elected, will have to make a call.

As such, Biden may very well pardon everyone who were arrested and convicted due to these goons since Trump bypassed basic tenets of law and order
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Must be tough living in your brain. A world where Democrat elected officials support looters and rioters and then condemn the only adult in the room who wants to stop the damage and protect ordinary people.

Good luck with that one.

#99 Overheardyou on 07.22.20 at 7:02 pm

The last I heard, our laws apply to everyone. Hopefully they get to the bottom of this.

Too bad everyone seems to have different morals though.

#100 Nonplused on 07.22.20 at 7:03 pm

Have we forgotten SC Lavalin already? Jody Wilson-Raybould? The Bombardier bailout? Canada has its own version of the “deep state” and it involves moneyed families from mostly Ontario and Quebec. Nobody really opposes this stuff in those circles because they are all in on it. It has been going on since T1. So my guess is Trudeau will flash his best puppy dog eyes and skate through because nobody really wants to see too much investigation. And after Trudeau’s $600 million media grant I don’t think it’ll stay in the news cycle for very long. By this time in August nobody will remember what “WE” is. It’s hard to say what the headlines will be by then but I think it’ll be panicked parents who don’t want the schools reopened complete with protests.

In the “not a virus blog” department, Calgary has effective August 1st implemented a mandatory mask requirement. Well, you can guess how that is going in the land of the redneck. Enforcement is going to be a nightmare. So Nenshi is probably serving his last term too even if he doesn’t know it yet. I also don’t see how it works in with reopening the schools. Do the kids have to wear masks to school? If so, why bother opening them? And you are not going to be able to stop some of the little schmucks from coughing on each other because they think it’s funny.

I think, based on the US experience, the worst of covid is ahead of us. And with the kids packed in classrooms like meat plant workers I don’t expect the reopening to go well. Anyone who has had a child in the school system knows that it has always been the primary vector for cold, flu, head lice, pink eye, etc. transmission. Kids are gross.

#101 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.22.20 at 7:04 pm

#64 aW on 07.22.20 at 5:35 pm
I think you’re overestimating the Canadian electorate. Most voters haven’t even heard of this scandal, of those that have, most don’t understand it. Most of the rest either don’t care or see it as partisan tantrum-throwing.

He’s got great hair. He will be fine. Sad but true.
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As you may have noticed, we are in the midst of a pandemic, not seen since 1918.
The average Canadian feels that combating the virus is of upmost priority. Prime Minister Trudeau gets top marks for handling the situation.
Is it not a leader’s duty to focus on issues that concern the citizens the most?
Ethics are important, but in times of crisis, pragmatism becomes a virtue.
And furthermore, please enough of the hair jokes.
They are getting tiring.

#102 Oakville sucks on 07.22.20 at 7:06 pm

WE was salivating all the way to bank as it was licking its chops at $43 million!!! Then a cop stopped them at the door….unfortunately took their cheque but didn’t arrest them!!!

#103 Wait There on 07.22.20 at 7:09 pm

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/young-canadians-flock-to-tiktok-to-thank-daddy-trudeau-for-cerb-spending-sprees-1.1469011

First I knew this would be but when the recipients are as bold as this is ridiculous. I have not received one penny from the government from this COVID thing. The fact that I busted my ass to make some coin for myself and I had no choice and then I have to pay for these kind of recipients makes me sick.

If you made a mistake and did not save enough for emergencies then fine. The government gives you an interest free loan and you slowly pay the amount you borrowed from society. You pay taxes, you can borrow but pay it back in some extra tax down the road.
You don’t pay…sorry there are other avenues but you need to justify.
To give money to people who have made a mistake and then tax other people more heavily to pay for the money you’ve GIVEN to them. What! I lived conservatively and saved and because of my lifestyle, I’m OK. Now you want to remove some of what I sacrificed to give someone else. I mean these kids are living at home and purchasing stuff I cannot afford but I pay lots of taxes.

Never Daddy T. if you don’t get elected, I’ll be the first to cheer you on the way out.

#104 Bytor the Snow Dog on 07.22.20 at 7:10 pm

@Flop-

I owe you a sincere apology. Although I was poking fun at you a bit re: the T reference and asking if Sara was your wife, I do really care for your well being.

Why? Well, I have a brother like you. He’s a bit emotional and stuck in the past and just can’t….let… stuff…go. By that I mean that he has had some failed relationships, and we both have family members that passed (some over 20 years ago). That’s all he thinks of, he’s obsessed to the point that it’s wrecked his life.

You remind of him and that’s my failing.

Sorry. I hope you take this the right way. It’s the best my dumb ass can do.

#105 Nonplused on 07.22.20 at 7:11 pm

#7 SunShowers on 07.22.20 at 3:45 pm

“I don’t understand why the House didn’t impeach Trump on his flagrant, egregious violations of the emoluments clause, as he has clearly and indefensibly personally profited from his position.”

How so? And they never attempted to impeach Trump based on the emoluments clause. If they did that the whole of congress would have to go too.

#106 Orange Man....Orange on 07.22.20 at 7:12 pm

And the survey says:

Only strong Liberals feel safe and protected in the US in sharing their political opinions. The rest of the population lives in fear. And people will not vote for the fear to continue.

https://www.cato.org/publications/survey-reports/poll-62-americans-say-they-have-political-views-theyre-afraid-share#liberals-are-divided-political-expression

#107 AM in MN on 07.22.20 at 7:14 pm

I just don’t understand why so many Canadians care about who the US President is.

I guess they’ll just need to find a way to deal with their emotions on the morning after his re-election.

No one in Canada today lives within walking distance of a war zone’s worth of burned out buildings and the real fear that if a gang comes to your house, there are no police that will come help you, and facing criminal charges if you help yourself.

That is real fear, and no one in their right minds votes for more of it.

Trump didn’t cause the divide in the US, he rode the wave of it. In Canada is used to be more regional, but is trending in the urban globalist secularist vs. hinterland traditional family types. One more liberal cycle before the Cons find a leader not afraid of the media and willing to fight.

In Canada it’s going to be Chrystia Freeland. She’s the puppet of the globalist banksters, Rhodes Scholar etc., the media will drag her over the goal line when the time comes. They need to keep control of the printing presses and quell the free market for as long as they can.

#108 Faron on 07.22.20 at 7:16 pm

I love it. The COVID deniers basic take is:

“If I’m not sick or dead, it’s not a big deal. If Bolsonaro isn’t sick or dead, it’s not a big deal.”

That’s fun.

This is also fun.

According to Wikipedia, 10,580 737s have been produced to-date. Maybe 6500 are in service. Average capacity is about 150 humans. People’s moms, dads, brothers, sisters etc etc take those seats on a regular basis, or did in the before times. It’s safe to say that almost everyone in the developed world has been aboard one and many in the less developed world.

The number of coronavirus deaths globally is currently 624,000 (after only 4 months of high infection rates). And is climbing by 1% per day.

If the entire active fleet of 737s was filled to 3/4 capacity, lofted into the sky and then crashed, it would kill that many people. And the world would lose its mind. The world lost its mind when four planes managed to kill less than 3000 in NYC, rest their souls. Or, you could note that about two 911s have been happening every day for the past four months.

Or, you could note that the globe is seeing about 40 737s full of happy life travellers hit an unforgiving deck each day due to this virus. I don’t care how old they are in the median, that’s a massive number.

So, to get started, you wack the entire fleet of 737s full of people and then, on an ongoing basis, another 40 planes per day goes down. No big deal, right? It’s just someone’s grandma. Who cares if they are bringing refrigerator trucks into the US south to start storing the dead. Who cares if so many died in NYC that a huge uptick in persons buried in the city mass grave was recorded.

These are deaths on top of normal death rates. Yes, people die, we get it. That’s never an argument against concern for additional deaths. It doesn’t hold water now and will continue to leak water like the 3$ walmart sieve it is as death rates continue to climb.

This is not a flu. It has rapidly outstripped typical ILI/Pneumonia deaths in only four months, many of the deaths in summer even though there have been efforts to control the spread of the virus. Yes, 99% of people get it and get over it. But 1% have a really crappy ride (look up what it actually means to be intubated and put on a ventilator — it’s hell and deadly in its own right) and half of those, maybe a bit under, will die.

And all that had to be done was for you numbskulls to listen to a few directives about social distancing, wearing masks and not being greedy for all of a month at most. But the planet failed. This blog’s author downplayed the virus as did many others here and all over the media. The US failed the worst. Brazil a close second (note the equivalent, nationalistic leadership of both nations). All you had to do was take a tiny bit of inconvenience and the virus would have run out of hosts. But now we all have to take a year’s worth of mask wearing and family missing and social distancing and on and on and on because of your inability to grasp the magnitude of something that every professional who knew better howled how large scale this would become.

I get it, you are libertarian. You believe in freedom. Fine. But an essential tenant of libertarianism is respecting the rights of others to do as they will. While not a fan overall, I think this concept is really cool. It allows complete personal freedom as long as you don’t wreck someone else’s day. Yet, here you all are. You took all of your freedoms and completely crapped all over everyone else’s right to live happy healthy lives. Total garbage.

/rant

#109 Randy on 07.22.20 at 7:17 pm

Hahaha…The mask pivot will kill the push for mail-on voting and will allow Trump to have rallies….Prisoners can stay in jail since masks work now…Trump is a stable genius. Lancet had to pivot on HCQ….because is works as a cure for Covid.

#110 45north on 07.22.20 at 7:23 pm

The president downplayed this when the pandemic arrived, then disappeared, then complained there was too much testing going on (the only way to identify, trace and stop infections), then he dissed his top medical guy and, while upholding the Confederate flag and sending scary paramilitary dudes to fight BLM protestors in Portland, said wearing a mask was patriotic after defending the right not to. He has blamed state governors. He blames China. He blames testing.

“The president downplayed this when the pandemic arrived” it was January when the pandemic arrived, he was in the middle of an attempt to impeach him.

“ complained there was too much testing going on” under his direction, United States has done more testing than any other nation on earth. The fact that CNN took a 10 second clip that could be taken as being against testing, doesn’t mean it’s fair and accurate reporting.

“dissed his top medical guy” key word is “his”. He chose him, he continues to seek his advice.

“while upholding the Confederate flag” while defending history

“sending scary paramilitary dudes to fight BLM protestors” sending federal officers to defend Federal Buildings – like Lincoln did at Fort Sumter

“said wearing a mask was patriotic after defending the right not to” maybe he changed his mind

“He has blamed state governors.” yep

“He blames China” yep

“He blames testing” asked and answered

#111 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.22.20 at 7:25 pm

@Yukon Elvis, No Blog For Old Men

++++

My fan club grows by two more……. :)

#112 Nonplused on 07.22.20 at 7:26 pm

#59 Pat on 07.22.20 at 5:24 pm

“Doesn’t change that this endorsement is just as bad as the Trump / Goya incident, just easier to spin with better PR because charity….

Did Goya get a billion dollar federal contract? – Garth”

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It’s going to be hard to make much stick on Trump for the Goya thing. It could be argued he was trolling the left for trying to form a boycott of Goya because its owner expressed support for Trump. The boycott backfired of course as Trump supporters ran Goya out of beans. And no money changed hands. Well except for all the people buying beans.

#113 Beetman on 07.22.20 at 7:29 pm

Like Kirt Russel said in the movie Tombstone. “Hells a comin”

#114 Drill Baby Drill on 07.22.20 at 7:29 pm

In my 2/3 of a century of being on this planet when I see a senior cabinet minister of finance no less state on the day he is asked to testify on WE he all of a sudden finds and unpaid personal expense invoice from 3 yrs ago worth $41K. I smell a very dead rat here.

#115 Suicide Note on 07.22.20 at 7:30 pm

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#116 Drill Baby Drill on 07.22.20 at 7:31 pm

Canadians i do not care who you voted for in the last election but seriously this current government must go.

#117 Bill Morneau's Travel Agent on 07.22.20 at 7:38 pm

Garth, do you need to take some trips in the next year or two to promote your next book?

I can help!

I will arrange coverage for all your travel costs, up to $50,000, and you won’t have to pay a cent for at least three years!

Deal!?

#118 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.22.20 at 7:40 pm

@#82 ain’t life Rand
“shows what a mess the conservative party was/is”

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Yep “Smirking” Scheer was as electable as Harper.

The latest contenders, “Milkman” MacKay and “Tool” O’Toole resonate with no one west of Ontario ( if even that far).
The Cons have some excellent women that could have given intellectually and verbally challenged T2 a run for his money but the back room dinosaurs arent ready for a female Leader .
(Sorry folks, PM Kim Campbell was handed the leadership when everyone else took one step back…..).

Trudeau should be unelectable but when the alternatives are even more unpalatable……..especially when he’s handing out Billions we dont have at every opportunity.
Pretty hard to compete with that when the average voter doesnt even realize we’re in a minority govt. let alone understand that the economy is spiraling the Trillion dollar bowl.

Maybe after the Cons lose another close election (or form a minority govt.) we will see a shake up.
But I doubt it…..the religious nutters seem to have a lock on things these days so its back to Ozzie and Harriet and a 1950’s mindset.

#119 Gregor Samsa on 07.22.20 at 7:42 pm

Trudeau survived SNC Lavelin (arguably a worse ethical breach than WE). Trudeau survived blackface (it still boggles my mind that we elected a PM who wore blackface on multiple occasions). And I predict Trudeau will survive the WE scandal as well.

Too many people have too much to personally lose if Trudeau gets the boot. Everyone is riding the gravy train right now. So the next election will be framed as a choice between “gravy train Trudeau” where everyone keeps all their nice benefits, government jobs, plush contracts, etc or some dark and evil conservative who will stop all the spending, fire everyone, cancel all the contracts and bring about a new dark ages (so the media will frame it anyways, because the media is also in on the gravy train of receiving Trudeau money).

Trudeau might be held to a minority (instead the majority he was poised to sweep into ahead of WE) but that’s about the worst that would happen to him. Canadians have memories like gnats so if the next election is a year from now or later, then he gets a majority.

#120 45north on 07.22.20 at 7:49 pm

more on

“while upholding the Confederate flag”

I just heard Representative Karen Bass, speak on removing Confederate statues from the Capitol – she wants them removed.

It was God’s will that slavery be abolished. In order for that to happen, the South had to be crushed – not just lose but be crushed. For the South to be crushed, General Robert E Lee had to defeat the Union armies. Again and again. Outmanned and outgunned. He was a great general and a great man.

Still, if Representative Karen Bass wants the statue of Robert E Lee taken down, then it should be taken down.

#121 George S on 07.22.20 at 7:49 pm

Probably most charities including some if not all churches should be referred to as “charities” because they seem to be money printing machines that enrich a whole bunch of people under the guise of claiming to do “charitable” work. If you look closely at the CRA regulations governing charities and non-profits, the regulations are very liberal.

#122 Stone on 07.22.20 at 7:51 pm

“Volunteering” by children should be banned. It only benefits the 0.01% wealthiest.

By the way, I thought slavery in Canada was banned a very long time ago. I guess not since we teach the children of the poor to know their place in the great order of things.

#123 cramar on 07.22.20 at 7:54 pm

Well, regarding T2. . . The poll said that he had 74% approval rate and this blog said at the time this was a shoe-in for a majority gubmint. Yup!

Then the WE scandel hit and people began to speculate that he might be in trouble come election time. I said to my wife at the time, that “People don’t care because he is giving everyone free money. He will win because there is no way people are not going to vote in again someone who is giving everyone free money.” I would not put T2 on the chopping block just yet. He has proven to be made of Teflon. Nothing sticks! He has opened the money floodgates and the electorate wants it to continue.

Don’t write Trudeau off yet! Trump yes! Trudeau? We will see how self-serving the electorate really is.

#124 Stoph on 07.22.20 at 7:57 pm

#80 Stoph on 07.22.20 at 6:23 pm
The idea of having kids to contribute to society through a paid ‘volunteer’ program to fight COVID is actually not a bad idea; better than having them sit at home collecting CERB. (Wait a minute, could kids have collected CERB and their volunteering stipend?). The attempted implementation through WE however is an obvious violation of conflict of interest. The ends don’t justify the means.

When you get paid to volunteer, isn’t that called ‘work’? – Garth

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Yup, you’re right. Sounds like work to me.

Paying students to ‘work’ to fight COVID still makes more sense than having students sit at home and collect CERB. (That being said, I don’t know the details of the program and if it would have been either/or for what students would have qualified.)

#125 Bk on 07.22.20 at 8:01 pm

Glad trudeau could be toast. I shed a tear for the Trump part of the writeup.

#126 Do we have all the facts on 07.22.20 at 8:05 pm

It is hard to believe that the We are Canada video is not one of those Rick Mercer spoofs. When did it become ok for the Prime Minister of Canada to become a promoter of one specific charity. Does anyone know who paid to create this ad or who paid to have it run in the media, if it actually did.

Watching our Prime Minister try to ruin the careers of two Cabinet Ministers while aggrandizing SNC Lavalin made me wince with shame. Watching a video that tied my Country to a very questionable charity pushed shame to a point where my faith in democracy was severely shaken .

Pierre Trudeau barked about political patronage until he was elected Prime Minister and turned it into an art form. Selecting Margaret Trudeau as a speaker to inspire Canadian youth is so far beyond patronage that it cannot be defended.

So much back scratching going on with T2 that the whole country is now getting itchy for a change.

#127 Tyberius on 07.22.20 at 8:07 pm

Well, according to the CDC publication on the guidelines for certifying deaths due to Covid-19:

“In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgment in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible.”

So, given the loose terminology used, I trust the published numbers of ‘infections’ and/or deaths due to Covid about as much as I trust T2 with doing the right thing with our money.

Let’s hope this tarnishing of the brand sticks! Tired of seeing his face and pretentious ‘caring’ for Canadians.

#128 dogman01 on 07.22.20 at 8:09 pm

When you get paid to volunteer, isn’t that called ‘work’? – Garth

Garth, you need to get with the “New Normal”, the “New Reality” and the “New-Speak”

When you are “entitled” to $2000 a month but instead of doing nothing for it you instead do something, that is now called “Volunteering”.

When I was young I participated in a government youth employment program…..it was called Basic Training, you got housing, food and clothes and a really big heavy Rifle. Good fitness program, a lot of outdoor time and exposure to isolated locations in our great land. Learned a little respect, a little history, how to go several days with no sleep and what a “forced march” really means ….good times.

#129 Rainshowers on 07.22.20 at 8:11 pm

Honestly #7 Sunshowers, do you really believe Trump is the sort of person keeping human beings in cages. What CNN trash do you watch? He’s trying to fix 40 years of poor political decision making that Obama and others made. It’s not up to the US to provide free board and lodging for anyone running the border. It is up to the US to protect its borders, which includes preventing people from running them. If you want to help runners, just post your address on this blog and we can work from there.

#130 MF on 07.22.20 at 8:12 pm

#101 Gregor Samsa on 07.22.20 at 7:42

You live in a very black and white world. A world where every person of a given demographic or occupation thinks the same way.

The world is much more nuanced, my friend.

MF

#131 ImGonnaBeSick on 07.22.20 at 8:22 pm

#108 Faron on 07.22.20 at 7:16 pm

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Time for the bench Faron.

#132 Prince Polo on 07.22.20 at 8:23 pm

Garth –
Your focus lately on Trudeau’s shortcomings has definitely left me feeling queasy and weak-kneed. Besides you, is there a viable candidate out there that has the finesse and wherewithal to take on PM Prince Charming? Unfortunately, his boorish behaviour and multiple fake apologies are more reminiscent of a PM Prince Barfing. Sad!

#133 not 1st on 07.22.20 at 8:24 pm

When Biden actually leaves the basement and can get more than 16 people to listen to him, then I will believe he is in the lead. He isn’t even attending the DNC convention.

I am afraid those little MSM polls are wee bit off.

Let call the WE scandal exactly what it was. This was a vote buying indoctrination scheme enlisting socialist teachers with govt funds to each round up 75 fresh new young voters to push the liberal brand while through the backdoor, Maggi and Sasha got some graft and the creepy burger brothers were to get their Toronto gentrification project paid off with tax payer funds.

Has there been anything like this in Canadian politics? Duffy? Orange Juice? Adscam?

#134 Bobby Bittman on 07.22.20 at 8:26 pm

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#135 Faron on 07.22.20 at 8:27 pm

Garth, thanks for posting and maybe even reading my rant. I’m sorry to saddle you. I’m going to try to move those things to my own blog and will try not to subtract from what should be nice summer evenings.

Too many posts from me today. It’s summer, there are better projects.

#136 Deplorable Dude on 07.22.20 at 8:35 pm

Trump’s an easy target.

Don’t forget the original CDC model estimated 2.2 US million dead in 2020. The US will not reach even a 10th of that by year end. So did Trump do good or bad, or was the model just shite?

#137 not 1st on 07.22.20 at 8:37 pm

The USMCA has a clause regarding corruption and that tarrifs can be applied as punishment.

I am sure Trump is teeing them up as we speak, but hey Canada you voted for this.

I get a kick out of people demonizing Harper. He was so mean to me so I voted for Trudeau who sank the country into a secular recession with a debt that will never be paid off. Good rationalizing.

#138 Kevin on 07.22.20 at 8:45 pm

There was a COVID funding announcement in May that didn’t pass the smell test either. AbCellera, a Vancouver based biotech, received $175 million. This was for their work identifying/ separating antibodies that might be able to treat COVID infections. There was no background on why this company was chosen or why so much money was required. It just seemed like throwing money around to me. More political patronage?

#139 Cdn Mom on 07.22.20 at 8:57 pm

Mr. Turner, I believe you are incorrect in saying Trump is losing his base. Please remember this name…John Durham. His base knows that name.

#140 David McDonald on 07.22.20 at 9:05 pm

It is unreasonable to put Trudeau’s malfeasance in the same category as Trump’s. Foolishness and naivety cannot be compared with gross abuse of power. Nobody is speculating that Trudeau might assume dictatorial power and end Canadian democracy. Americans have good reason to worry.

#141 Flop... on 07.22.20 at 9:08 pm

#104 Bytor the Snow Dog on 07.22.20 at 7:10 pm
@Flop-

I owe you a sincere apology. Although I was poking fun at you a bit re: the T reference and asking if Sara was your wife, I do really care for your well being.

Why? Well, I have a brother like you. He’s a bit emotional and stuck in the past and just can’t….let… stuff…go. By that I mean that he has had some failed relationships, and we both have family members that passed (some over 20 years ago). That’s all he thinks of, he’s obsessed to the point that it’s wrecked his life.

You remind of him and that’s my failing.

Sorry. I hope you take this the right way. It’s the best my dumb ass can do.

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Well, you made an effort to extend a branch instead of trying to shove it up my backside, so I’ll respond the best I can.

You don’t need to apologize for what you said, I don’t really care if you guys in The Troll Dolls like me, it would be better if you just tolerate me and let me do my thing.

What Soggy Shorts said, without even going back to see what Sail Away said to disrespect Boom, was even worse, even though Scurvy admitted that he was just trying to get under my skin.

Going after dead guys and spouses is your idea of trolling?

It’s not even good trolling, a good troll slowly draws you in, you guys are like, I don’t like you and reach for the biggest insult you can think of at the time, just to shut the other person up.

If the other person can’t be bothered responding, you guys chalk that up as a win.

I would rather take crap from you guys,then betray my friend who was worried about my wellbeing when he died.

I will take 5 minutes now to clear up a few misconceptions.

There is a massive difference between being emotional and being respectful and being true to yourself.

When Boom arrived on the blog he was Retired Boomer WI and I hadn’t invented the GAP Code yet.

I started calling him Boom ,because honestly I’m not the best typer, it was a shortcut and a nickname all in one.

When a multi day generation war broke out in the comments I came up with the GAP Code, so people didn’t have to keep repeating how old they were and where they are from.

Boom embraced this thought immediately.

I sometimes play down the fact that I had anything good to offer him and it was a one way friendship, but he really cared about me and was willing to put the time in to ensure I had a more prosperous life, you can’t ask for a bigger token of online friendship than that.

I couldn’t walk for 7 months around the time Boom died, I decided to do the Pink Snow Project as a tribute to him, and do some good on the blog at the same time.

It gave me something to do to pass the time, as I was housebound, I gained new computer skills and honoured a friend in a way that benefited the blog.

Garth was onboard with this, and I told Boom’s son , Paul, what I was up to as well.

I also promised that he would live on the blog as long as I was on it and early September I would try and encourage people to celebrate Boom Days around the time of his death.

A multifaceted project on here, where we try to remember the fallen, Boom in particular, celebrate our diverse readership, particularly in the U.S to acknowledge that readers from out of Canada can be amazing contributors to the blog and finally, as with hopefully going on with the likes of yourself and I, as good as time as any for a burying of hatchets, as we acknowledge another person is on the end of that barb.

The first couple of Boom Days went relatively well, lots of Boom stories, and shout outs from around the world.

The comments section has deteriorated somewhat in recent times with dome new posters refusing to acknowledge the past happenings on the blog and only want to pretend the blog started when they typed the first post.

The blog had been going for over six years before I arrived and during another surgery period, I read every post and comment to try and understand what had happened before I arrived and I undoubtedly would have been in better financial shape if u had found this blog earlier but being a dual citizen, I hadn’t totally committed to this country, now I have.

As far as the people diagnosing fellow posters on here as psychopaths and sociopaths, I am not qualified to enter this discussion.

I’m a rough and tumble construction worker, not a quack…

M46BC

#142 Keyboard Smasher on 07.22.20 at 9:12 pm

>Unless public opinion sampling is as flawed as it was in 2016, he will lose in November.

The margin of error on opinion sampling is in the “completely wrong” range.

Rasmussen reports Trump polling 3% behind Ol’ Joe.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/white_house_watch_jul22?utm_campaign=RR07192020DN&utm_medium=email&utm_source=criticalimpact

But then again, it’s only Rasmussen.

#143 Calgary retiree on 07.22.20 at 9:17 pm

#83 The Totally Unbiased, Highly Intelligent, Rational Observer on 07.22.20 at 6:26 pm

“Think about this. During the election campaign leading up to Justin Trudeau’s first term as Prime Minister of Canada, these were some of his major talking points that got him elected:

1. Legalizing marijuana.

2. Charging climate change carbon taxes.

3. Supporting the LGBTQ agenda.

4. Supporting abortion.

5. Letting the federal deficit take care of itself.”
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Obviously a SoCon.

1, Agree, mostly unnecessary
2, Yes, man made climate change is real, and increasing the cost of carbon is a proven method to reduce CO2 emissions.
3, Complete garbage, there is no LGBTQ agenda.
4, Giving women the right to choose is not the same as “supporting” abortion.
5, Agree, but the majority of post-war Cdn govts have done exactly that.

Two reasons I voted for JT are:
1, Promised to eliminate the “first round the post election system, introduce proportional representation.
Failed miserably, and declared post election that this was “too difficult”.
2) Introduced medically assisted suicide. Somewhat succeeded, but introduced a crazy clause that: “death must be reasonably foreseeable”

Note: EVERYBODY’S death is reasonably foreseeable.

#144 Wrk.dover on 07.22.20 at 9:23 pm

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#145 ImGonnaBeSick on 07.22.20 at 9:29 pm

Morneau won’t be finance minister after this. He’ll shield Trudeau just like Butts did for the SNC. Remember, Mark Carney is back in town and he has finance minister written all over him, since he likely has PM ambitions…

#146 VicPaul on 07.22.20 at 9:32 pm

#37 kingston boy on 07.22.20 at 4:35 pm

with any luck, T2 and T-rump will be in the rearview mirror soon. Looking forward to Biden and whomever takes over from scheer. low bar I know.

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“Looking forward to Biden…”.

You said that…out loud? Hey Zeus! What leadership, exactly, are you thinking Mr. Biden will bring to the office that will quell the misery of the American people? He’s an effigy of the past – an aging white male who will be pushed around by the socialist left agenda. He’s on point with his virtue-signalling though – announcing a non-announcement that he will pick one of four “Black females”. Attaboy, Joey, good boy!

It would be interesting to see someone, anyone, else take the job – and have virtually all media outlets in the land ridicule and slander them every. day. Have lower ranking elected officials bad-mouth them
publicly…every. day.

I’m not saying Trump’s arrogance and lack of diplomacy have not encouraged some of this behaviour – but who among us could (or would want to) continue to try and do the job everyday in the face of this concerted, well-organized and funded 3.75 year personal attack.
Trump must be a masochist to want to do this for four more years.

M56BC

#147 TurnerNation on 07.22.20 at 9:38 pm

So…if the USA is in a pandemic why did they get rid of those two hospital ships, Comfort and Mercy?
I can tell you. It was a stage show. Pure theater and mind control for the telescreens.
Gee a pandemic and not one blog dog seems to know anyone appreciably sick or anything.
As the saying goes this disease is so deadly you need a test to find out if you have it.

#148 Out Of Work CEO, Will Travel on 07.22.20 at 9:49 pm

The WE organization is professional first; foremost and all in all factually never to be determined as amateur.

#149 WENation on 07.22.20 at 9:53 pm

WE is an indoctrination outfit to train the next generation of Gretas.. incestuous setup to garner next gen liberal voters.. even without the financial kickbacks the whole thing stinks.. the Liberals are so used to these sort of scandals they don’t even notice it… crazy crazy stuff.. a billion bucks to buy future voters.. T2 and all of them should roast

#150 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.22.20 at 9:53 pm

@ TurnerNation

Worldwide Covid infections have now reached 15 million.
2 million new infections in 8 days.
We’ve lost control.

When it hits 1 million per day we will probably be back in lock downs.

If hospitals in the US are full now…..what will Sept bring?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-global-cases/global-coronavirus-cases-exceed-15-million-reuters-tally-idUSKCN24N0KK
Say bye bye to the economy.

#151 Sail Away on 07.22.20 at 9:55 pm

#68 Faron on 07.22.20 at 5:40 pm

And WE always just… seemed… creepy to me. Like Gian long before he was outed. Now I know why perhaps…

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If you mean Gian Ghomeshi, by ‘outed’, I’m going to assume you mean ‘found not guilty on all charges’.

There is a reason we have a formal process to test accusations. Here, I’ll explain: it’s to avoid destroying people on unfounded accusations.. or emotion… or the flavour of the day. Here’s another term to look up: innocent until proven guilty. The ‘proven’ is the important part.

Difficult concepts, I know.

#152 Drinking on 07.22.20 at 9:56 pm

#147 TurnerNation

Well, this blog dog knows of one who succumbed to it; another who barely lived through it; spent one month in the hospital and just recently a co-workers friend came down with it. It is nasty, hope you or any of us do not catch it.

Great Bog today Garth!
T2, ENOUGH ALREADY AND JUST RESIGN!!

#153 Eric Blair on 07.22.20 at 10:08 pm

That ad is shocking, not just because our PM is endorsing a charity that he later gave almost $1B, to but because in the whole ad it never actually says what the charity does.

“You will long remember 2020. Largely for what’s yet to happen.” Great last line.

#154 binky barnes on 07.22.20 at 10:10 pm

King Justin, the Teflon Man, wins a majority government next time ’round. Book it. Canadians no longer give a bleep about anything but ‘free’ money.

BB

#155 Sail Away on 07.22.20 at 10:16 pm

For Faron, still assuming you’re speaking ill of an acquitted man, here’s an article from Christie Blatchford (a fine person in her own right) to explain the esoteric meaning of ‘not guilty’.

#156 Sail Away on 07.22.20 at 10:16 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-ghomeshi-was-acquitted-why-should-he-not-be-allowed-a-voice/wcm/dcfcd86b-c7aa-4cb2-8aa5-29f6f0430a2a/amp/

#157 Idealistic Realist on 07.22.20 at 10:22 pm

#141 Flop… on 07.22.20 at 9:08 pm

You are a gem amongst gems. I remember Retired Boomer WI’s posts well. Always looked forward to them. Thank you for your honour and integrity. Dying qualities. Anyone would be lucky to have you as a friend.

Thank you also for your post the other day re questioning those who only respond to blog dogs comments and not to Mr Turner’s inspiration of the day. Noted.

F43ON

#158 Investx on 07.22.20 at 10:32 pm

“sending scary paramilitary dudes to fight BLM protestors in Portland,”

LOL. The BLM “protestors” are the scary ones.

#159 Looking up on 07.22.20 at 10:41 pm

#152 Drinking on 07.22.20 at 9:56 pm
#147 TurnerNation

Well, this blog dog knows of one who succumbed to it; another who barely lived through it; spent one month in the hospital and just recently a co-workers friend came down with it. It is nasty, hope you or any of us do not catch it.

Great Bog today Garth!
T2, ENOUGH ALREADY AND JUST RESIGN!!

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My neighbour died from it. Left a wife and 16 year old daughter. Take this seriously.

#160 Dave Dasjkaski on 07.22.20 at 10:42 pm

Do you think that Liberals are by accident corrupt, money grubbing politicians. Look at Ontario Liberals, Wynne, McGuinty, Sorbara with David Suzuki foundation, green energy, projects scams.

I would not be surprised if they are involved with We charity too.

#161 Sara on 07.22.20 at 11:09 pm

#151 SA “If you mean Gian Ghomeshi, by ‘outed’, I’m going to assume you mean ‘found not guilty on all charges’.
There is a reason we have a formal process to test accusations. Here, I’ll explain: it’s to avoid destroying people on unfounded accusations.. or emotion… or the flavour of the day. Here’s another term to look up: innocent until proven guilty. The ‘proven’ is the important part.
Difficult concepts, I know.”
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Surely, the GT blog king of trolls, is clever enough to understand that being found ‘not guilty’ by a court of law does not mean the accused did not commit the crime. Not such a difficult concept is it?

What is sad is that most sexual abusers get away with their crimes. A minority go to trial and even fewer are convicted.

#162 Millennial 1%er on 07.22.20 at 11:11 pm

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#163 IHCTD9 on 07.22.20 at 11:18 pm

#81 kappa on 07.22.20 at 6:25 pm

I hate to say it, but: the moral fiber of the leaders is a reflection of the nation.
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Yep.

Personally, I don’t give a rip if my fellow Canucks put T2 in power for round three, that’ll just be more free cash in my bank account. Eventually, the reality of a Trillion dollar + debt in a country with only 15 million full time workers will be revealed.

It’ll be too late by then, but rest assured those that saw it coming will be $CAD free well before the IMF touches down in Ottawa to discuss bailout terms.

The way I see it, Women and youth form the bulk of Trudeaus’ voting base. About half the workforce in Canada is female, and pretty close to half the workforce in Canada is under 40.

A good quicky guess then – is a decent slice of ~75% of 65% (voter turnout) of every full time worker, votes Trudeau – if they vote.

I’m cool with this result. The youth are on the hook for the bulk of T2’s spending, as are Women via their ever increasing labour participation and wage increases (especially in the female dominated civil service). Boomer and gen X males are a shrinking demographic in Canada’s workforce.

These older dudes are the winners in this Trudeaupia – retired, or only 10-15 years left to work.

We live rural, modest incomes, and pay sweet fa in taxes. We get all the same hand outs everyone else gets, but won’t have to suffer a lifetime of tax increases or service cuts. We live in our paid for home that cost less than 150k, and we watch government stimulus, bailouts, and stock speculators swell our investment portfolios.

Born at the right time, and with the right income, living in the right place – to cash in huge from the Libs.

We’re good, ladies and kiddies; if you want to order the extra-large deluxe. Just don’t be thinking we’ll be the ones paying for it…

#164 pamo on 07.22.20 at 11:19 pm

#96 Yuus bin Haad on 07.22.20 at 6:56 pm

I went to the local TSC to pick up some camo underwear, but didn’t find any – I looked all over – couldn’t see it anywhere.

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…and that’s how well it worked!

#165 conan on 07.22.20 at 11:32 pm

I am in the camp that thinks the Libs escape this without too much damage, if any at all. Most people are going to buy the pandemic argument. They are allowed to be creative and try new things , some ideas will back fire.

Morneau’s story is one of those where the more you look into it , the more you see its not that bad.

That’s my take,

#166 Faron on 07.22.20 at 11:39 pm

#151 Sail Away on 07.22.20 at 9:55 pm

#68 Faron on 07.22.20 at 5:40 pm

Actually I meant Jian Ghomeshi. You are off your semantic game SA! Hanging curve whiff with the bases loaded.

Seems I blindly ran into a hobby horse of yourn.

Sure, legally he’s off. But, he settled one of the charges even though he worked with one of the “best” lawyers when if comes to getting rapists off the hook. Regardless, a not-guilty verdict doesn’t mean he’s innocent. OJ Simpson was not guilty in his murder trial, but lost his civil suit. Sexual assault is damn hard to prove in any case and even more so when the accused can afford way fancier lawyers than the accusers. This, among many imbalances in power between men and women, is why so few women even speak out when assaulted let alone press charges.

Wikipedia also tells me that Jian filed a $55M law suit against the CBC then limply withdrew it (see what I did there?) and even had to pay $18,000 in legal fees to the CBC to enable its later coronavirus reporting. Ouch.

Anyhow, go ahead with your retort. I’ll read it, get angry, but with any luck will move on and we can leave it at that. Not like either of us is going to be swayed.

All the best to you Sail Away.

#167 OK, Doomer on 07.22.20 at 11:48 pm

One thing is certain: the environmental movement will never have a leader that lasts more than a few years. They will all keep cancelling each other. No one can ever be pure enough to last.

I wonder when Greta will be cancelled? Surely she said something nasty once to somebody? Personally, I’m offended by her braids. Cultural appropriation.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sierra-club-disowns-john-muir-over-friendship-eugenicists

#168 short horses on 07.23.20 at 12:08 am

On its face, I can’t easily see how Bill Morneau cutting a $41,000 cheque for questionable expenses is so different from the Mike Duffy affair, which at the time seemed like a big deal. I’ve seen some Liberal pundits on TV in the last few days trying to explain why, in the grand scheme of things, this is not such a big deal, but maybe I lack the cognitive agility required to fully grasp their explanations.

#169 fishman on 07.23.20 at 12:16 am

“Remember 2020 for whats about to happen.” The time I can refer to & extrapolate from is the crash of 80-81. For small business out west it was a slaughter. The same thing is happening now, except free money is extending the killing time.
Politically, the Reform stagecoach left the station & we jumped onboard. That kept the Liberals in power a long time. The same thing might happen with the Wexit wagon. Not that it matters. Liberal or Conservative; Daffy Duck or Donald Duck.
How did we move up financially after barely holding on through the economic purge? We broke the powerful trade unions & stole their seniority & high paying jobs. I know, little disconcerting being a scab after your grandfather fought for worker rights & big pay checks. A couple towns up the coast I didn’t enter for a long time. I was young & hungry & wanted money. Money doesn’t bring happiness, it does bring freedom. So extrapolate 35 years. Where & from whom are hungry young men going to get their pound of flesh. And sorry bloggies, there’s no grow the economic pie crappola. The young wolves are just like we were & they are coming & they are taking.

#170 whiplash on 07.23.20 at 12:25 am

#7 SunShowers
……egregious violations of the emoluments clause….

Democrats lawsuit against Trump over alleged conflict of interest was dismissed by the U.S. Court of Appeals, it was unanimous. Next!

#171 David Greene on 07.23.20 at 12:51 am

Really? Funny, I found a couple directly relating to Covid-19 in less than 10 seconds.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html

Mutt on 07.22.20 at 6:16 pm

Goto CDC website and try to find one clinical study on mask use against flu viruses. All the studies there say they provide no protection from influenza viruses!

#172 Wake up on 07.23.20 at 2:14 am

Trudeau will continue to grease the wheels.
Free money will get the votes.
Trumps drowning in the swamp.
Good luck if Pelosi ends up President.

#173 Freedom First on 07.23.20 at 3:21 am

#147 TurnerNation

Yes, I agree. Thank Dog, someone finally letting the— “cat out of the bag”.

(Felix, sorry about the cat)

Freedom First

#174 Howard on 07.23.20 at 5:27 am

Went to the gym yesterday. Was denied entry because I didn’t have a mask (apparently they are now mandatory in my city in all interior public spaces).

I hope the Boomers are grateful (ha ha ha, as if). We’re doing all this for them. They certainly wouldn’t have done the same for their parents’ generation.

#175 Howard on 07.23.20 at 5:36 am

#133 not 1st on 07.22.20 at 8:24 pm
When Biden actually leaves the basement and can get more than 16 people to listen to him, then I will believe he is in the lead. He isn’t even attending the DNC convention.

I am afraid those little MSM polls are wee bit off.

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EVERY single poll from the past 6 months is off? Every last one of them? Even the FOX News poll released on the weekend showing Biden up 8 points nationally?

You are delusional.

I actually think Trump’s latest strategy of scaring suburban voters over proposed rezoning laws (who knew that was even a federal issue?) is a smart one, but I don’t think it will be enough.

#176 Wrk.dover on 07.23.20 at 6:19 am

#144 Wrk.dover on 07.22.20 at 9:23 pm
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Well yeah, that filthy joke about the filthy president was just for you.

How about this though, he will say he won’t, but Prime Minister P. MacKay’s first act in power, will be to “join USA”getting Canada the same status as Puerto Rico has with USA. (which isn’t much)

#177 maxx on 07.23.20 at 7:16 am

@ #13

Spite? Do keep up. A caterpillar would do a better job.
Enjoy paying your tax increases.
Incredible.

#178 n1tro on 07.23.20 at 7:25 am

Getting stinkier every day Justin.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7203337/trudeau-we-charity-foundation-real-estate-holding-company/

#179 [email protected] on 07.23.20 at 7:36 am

#37 kingston boy on 07.22.20 at 4:35 pm

“Trump must be a masochist to want to do this for four more years.”

Nope. It’s ONLY about clinging to immunity. Desperation and fear…nothing more.

#180 Randy on 07.23.20 at 7:59 am

If people wear masks to the voting booth in November, do you need them to show an ID to identify themselves….hahaha…POTUS Trump is a genius and he backed them all into a corner…Wear a mask and vote….bahaha #Trump2020

#181 Orange Man....Orange on 07.23.20 at 8:23 am

#179 [email protected] on 07.23.20 at 7:36 am
#37 kingston boy on 07.22.20 at 4:35 pm

“Trump must be a masochist to want to do this for four more years.”

Nope. It’s ONLY about clinging to immunity. Desperation and fear…nothing more.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Trump is the only thing standing between regular people who just want to work hard and raise their families in peace and the mob.

If Biden is elected his policy will be “If you like your riot, you can keep your riot”.

In 2016 the Democrats played a strong game by stoking fear against Trump. It almost worked. It’s ironic that they’ve now turned the strong fear game against themselves. Self-immolation or what?

Trump or the mob? Hard to believe there are people who read this blog and maintain that kind of world view. – Garth

#182 BillyBob on 07.23.20 at 8:29 am

I hate to say it, but: the moral fiber of the leaders is a reflection of the nation.

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Absolutely nails it.

A nation perhaps not predominated by but highly infected with supreme entitlement:

– the massive underground economy of people working cash jobs;
– the rampant non-declaration of rental income;
– the flat-out lying and misrepresentation to claim anything they can get their greedy little hands on regardless of legal or practical entitlement, from EI to CERB to accident insurance claims…

on and on…it’s a mindset, a “screw-everyone-else” selfishness made even more distasteful by covering it with a thin veneer of niceness and ENDLESS self-justification: “taxes are too high”, “everyone does it”, “no one will know”, “wink wink nudge nudge” etc etc etc ugh.

Canada is Greece, just colder and more in denial about it’s own moral bankruptcy.

No wonder it’s hard to get rid of corrupt politicians when such a massive number of the populace apparently at least tacitly agree with such behaviour.

And I should make clear, I am not referring to judiciously arranging one’s affairs to minimize the admittedly onerous burden the government most certainly imposes. (See: IHCTD9) I’m talking about people who genuinely believe stealing and cheating is fine, as long as you don’t get caught. Although in many ways it’s even worse, as so many now don’t even consider stealing and cheating to be…stealing and cheating.

Can’t have a workable society for long with that.

#183 Bob Hillside on 07.23.20 at 8:41 am

I get that some people are having hard times during this pandemic but man o man, I’m killing it.

Stocks are up, getting full pay as I “work from home”. I’m actually making more money now than when I went to work downtown Ottawa as I have no expenses.

In the meantime, I’m finally doing some renovations around the house.

Loving the new normal!!!!! 669

#184 Sky on 07.23.20 at 8:42 am

Will Trudeau and company pay a price? While this fraud may temporarily rattle his peoplekind, never underestimate their capacity for self delusion. And after all, His-Morally-Elevated-Highness did recently take a knee to the BLM protestors. So there’s that to consider.

Is anyone here still naive enough to think that this exposed bit of corruption is all there is? Once you put your hand in the cookie jar, it usually goes in so deep that you’re brushing crumbs out of your armpits.

And why not engage in this duplicity when the only price to be paid is purely POLITICAL. Never any restitution. And when was the last time you saw a politician hauled off to prison? Jail and huge fines are reserved for the little people breaking masking and distancing rules. We all know that.

#185 Sail Away on 07.23.20 at 8:46 am

#166 Faron on 07.22.20 at 11:39 pm

Sure, legally he’s off. But….

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Got it. You know better than the judge who examined the actual facts of five accusations and returned a verdict of not guilty on all.

So omniscient you are.

#186 Q2 DUPLEX DRIVE on 07.23.20 at 8:47 am

Chicks and millennials LOVE Justin Trudeau. And they could care less about this WE ‘scandal’. It’s so complicated! And Justin is so cute, and so cool!

Don’t write off Donald Trump just yet. This could be a 1972, George McGovern 2.0 – style blowout.

#187 TurnerNation on 07.23.20 at 8:51 am

All the sudden changes this weblog and blog dogs cover, ask yourself Why now?
Why now when we’re told it’s a global pandemic? (Where are all the sick people?)
Why is Edmonton and places US suddenly renaming the sport teams?
Why is every company sending out emails to customers, employees, promising to identify and promote people solely over their skin pigment? (Pity my buddy, who’s half one background, a 1/4 another yet has skin pigment light than mine…)
Why is City of Toronto spending tons of time and money to rename ‘Dundas St’ and every sign all over supposedly a petition?
Why are people all over this continent screaming at tourists and people who won’t wear a face diaper?

All these co-incidences? No it’s the New System being rolled out globally.
All compassion has been removed. Call this back in April. This is not about public health. It’s about keeping us divided (literally 6-6-6 feet apart) and especially targeting the very young and very old. Kids playgrounds still closed in my province.
And all individual rights have been removed. The fictional ‘state of emergency’ cements this.
The government orders your small business closed – you comply. You must walk and stand and dress a certain way – to transact commerce.
This New System ain’t going away. They even told us on Day 1: #stayhome, newnormal.
All levels of government have signed up on this, which is why you see them acting in concert. All over.

#188 Sail Away on 07.23.20 at 8:58 am

#170 whiplash on 07.23.20 at 12:25 am
#7 SunShowers
……egregious violations of the emoluments clause….

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Democrats lawsuit against Trump over alleged conflict of interest was dismissed by the U.S. Court of Appeals, it was unanimous. Next!

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Ask Faron.

Unless a legal decision matches a liberal’s emotional state at the time, it’s not true.

This mindset helps remove life’s uncertainties.

Sure, it’s a small-minded, tightly-constrained, brutally unfair mindset that promotes human rights abuses, but at least it keeps one’s world black and white.

#189 TurnerNation on 07.23.20 at 9:13 am

^ And why a push to ‘defund’ police in most cities. Really, is that a public health priority in ‘a pandemic’? So much organization . Same script everywhere. Ignore the New System at your peril.

Hey I spoke with a Branch Covidian I know. Months ago he rattled off a long list of supposedly sick people he knew of.
I asked again, he could name two people – in the medical field – totally fine now. I said that they must have infected a ton of their co-workers, friends, and family right this thing is so contageous? No…that was not the case.
I asked a few questions, was then asked point blank ‘did I want old people to die’?
I was also told to trust no numbers our of China. Then given a new link that said ‘according to Government of China reports’.
So I called them out on that, why they would send me the link. Needless to say they ended that convo ASAP!
It’s a mind control. Asking questions is forbidden.

I looked at some small regional newspapers from outside Toronto over a number of weeks. Lots of obituaries. Not one said CV. Most asked for donations to Heart & Stroke, Diabetes, Cancer societies. Deadly stuff, better hope you don’t get that.

Just two more weeks guys! Keep complying with the new global government directives and you’ll get your freedoms back. Just two more weeks they promise.

#190 ImGonnaBeSick on 07.23.20 at 9:21 am

#182 BillyBob on 07.23.20 at 8:29 am

I’m glad you excluded IHCTD9. I think it’s fascinating that he can bewilder a liberal and a conservative with the same comment.

As to your comment, a simplified tax code could help with a lot of these issues.

#191 Sara on 07.23.20 at 9:25 am

#188 SailAway: “it’s a small-minded, tightly-constrained, brutally unfair mindset that promotes human rights abuses, but at least it keeps one’s world black and white. ”

Talking about yourself again?

#192 Dharma Bum on 07.23.20 at 9:25 am

Chicks and millennials LOVE Justin Trudeau. And they could care less about this WE ‘scandal’.
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Right you are.

And neither do most Canadians, because most Canadians are citizens of this country who originated in places that were virtual hell holes, and are appreciative of the fact that they now live in a stable environment with no natural disasters, mass killings, insane religious zealots, REAL racism, tribalism, communism, famine, oppression, caste systems, class systems, disease, war, and smelliness.

Most Canadians are just pretty happy to be here, and just ignore the shenanigans of our stinking rotten-to-the-core corrupt lying shameful so-called “leaders”, because, relatively speaking, it has zero effect on them. They lead great lives here, and can be happy despite the pitiful politicians sullying the waters.

It’s pretty good here. Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsjPrsmsll0

#193 Jeff on 07.23.20 at 9:27 am

Garth: Now that we have a $350 billion deficit and a $1 trillion debt, there are only more taxes and hard choices ahead.

So Garth, what would you have done? Without the emergency aid, millions of Canadians would have been without any money. Social chaos would have ensued…guaranteed. We are not the only nation who has taken on debt as a result of the pandemic. Quit the liberal bashing; the cons would have done the exact same thing.

Maybe the ultra wealthy who hide their profits in off-shore tax havens should pay back the tax money they owe to Canadians….they are sitting quite pretty right now (btw, I’m speaking of the top 20 wealthiest in this country)

#194 AM in MN on 07.23.20 at 9:27 am

#186 Q2 DUPLEX DRIVE

“Don’t write off Donald Trump just yet. This could be a 1972, George McGovern 2.0 – style blowout.”

I’m feeling it as well. Trump takes 40 states + the house.

Suburbanites are getting scared, but they are keeping their views secret (for now) because of the legitimate fears of violence, property damage, losing jobs…

Gun stores are running low on supplies, 80% are first time buyers. Try booking range time and an instructor anywhere in the US right now.

There is no part of Canada feeling this fear right now.

Was at a campaign event for a previously unknown candidate for the house taking on a suburban Dem. I felt the energy, and I know what it feels like over many campaigns. It was driven by fear, one of the most potent motivating factors known.

The Liberals will throw more money at their voters to overcome this, and it will work for a while.

When the pain comes, and it will, just like the ’90’s, many of the capable will simply leave the country rather than pay the tax bill. Spending $B’s to train a generation of Greta’s won’t pay for the health care system, private industry and exports do that. Going to take some pain before the mood swings back to wanting wealth creation rather than just wealth transfers.

#195 Orange Man....Orange on 07.23.20 at 9:27 am

Trump or the mob? Hard to believe there are people who read this blog and maintain that kind of world view. – Garth
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please post a link showing a Trump supporter burning and looting. Even one. A single, lonely, solitary one.

You mean the guys with the guns? – Garth

#196 Dharma Bum on 07.23.20 at 9:28 am

#186 Q2 Duplex Drive

Chicks and millennials LOVE Justin Trudeau. And they could care less about this WE ‘scandal’.
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Right you are.

And neither do most Canadians, because most Canadians are citizens of this country who originated in places that were virtual hell holes, and are appreciative of the fact that they now live in a stable environment with no natural disasters, mass killings, insane religious zealots, REAL racism, tribalism, communism, famine, oppression, caste systems, class systems, disease, war, and smelliness.

Most Canadians are just pretty happy to be here, and just ignore the shenanigans of our stinking rotten-to-the-core corrupt lying shameful so-called “leaders”, because, relatively speaking, it has zero effect on them. They lead great lives here, and can be happy despite the pitiful politicians sullying the waters.

It’s pretty good here. Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsjPrsmsll0

#197 TurnerNation on 07.23.20 at 9:31 am

#150 crowdedelevatorfartz without testing how would these people know they had it? The economy will do fine. Look around everyone is out buying. Turn off your telescreen and get back to normal. Maybe you will get lucky and your government locks you down such that you can no longer can go to work. Seems like you are gunning for that?

Shutting down the globe to roll out the New System.
– Online “education” for the kids from the global tech giants – like Google Classroom.
– Suspending elections. Unchecked power by government.
– Non stop hi-jinx from bankers. UBI and so on.
– Marxist agenda and history being re-written.
– Government controlling our every step, breathing while outside.
In only 4 months. This is all important stuff in a ‘pandemic’ right? Priorities to ‘keep us healthy’ right?
Pull back the curtain a bit, see who is there.

#198 Orange Man....Orange on 07.23.20 at 9:31 am

Try this experiment, even in downtown Toronto. Wear a Biden hat and see how many Trump supporters will beat and abuse you. My guess is you’ll get a few funny looks and that’s about it.

Then put on a MAGA hat and walk a few blocks. My guess is that you’ll be abused, harangued and verbally assaulted.

Explain to me which group is more tolerant?

#199 Andrew on 07.23.20 at 9:41 am

Not quite so Garth, Trudeau is part of this political coup and TRUMP is fighting them! The root of evil is the WEF and the group within!

Klaus Schwab is a very dangerous man, and a typical academic who thinks talking to the average person on the street is pointless since we are all stupid. Schwab, who is the founder of the Davos World Economic Forum, now has the audacity to warn that a failure to tackle the deep-rooted ills of our society in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic could exacerbate the risk of “violent shocks,” such as conflicts and revolutions. In other words, we MUST accept his Great Reset. He is in league with Bill Gates and others and sees no problem with destroying jobs and sharply reducing the food supply all to further his nonsense to stop global warming when CO2 is only 0.04% of the atmosphere.

There is no way to avoid civil unrest, global economic disputes, and the risk of international war all because Schwab and his friends are so arrogant that they think their delusions can redesign the world economy.

Moved here from a communist country 36 years ago, if Canadians don’t start waking up your kids will be full bliwn Marxist!

#200 Bytor the Snow Dog on 07.23.20 at 9:41 am

@Turner Nation-

There’s a substantial portion of the population that will do whatever their government tells them no questions asked if said gov’t says it’s for their own good.

New State of Emergency Rule 21(c)
The Hokey Pokey Act

21(c)- Before any person enters any place of business hereto, said person must sincerely endeavor to put their right foot in, then shall take their right foot out. Immediately thereafter they must again put the right foot in and take the right foot out and shake it all about. Finally said individual must then do the Hokey-Pokey and turn themselves around and immediately exit said premises.

Because that’s what it’s all about.

#201 ain't life rand on 07.23.20 at 9:47 am

@#118 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.22.20 at 7:40 pm
@#82 ain’t life Rand
“shows what a mess the conservative party was/is”

++++

Yep “Smirking” Scheer was as electable as Harper.

The latest contenders, “Milkman” MacKay and “Tool” O’Toole resonate with no one west of Ontario ( if even that far).
The Cons have some excellent women that could have given intellectually and verbally challenged T2 a run for his money but the back room dinosaurs arent ready for a female Leader .
(Sorry folks, PM Kim Campbell was handed the leadership when everyone else took one step back…..).

Trudeau should be unelectable but when the alternatives are even more unpalatable……..especially when he’s handing out Billions we dont have at every opportunity.
Pretty hard to compete with that when the average voter doesnt even realize we’re in a minority govt. let alone understand that the economy is spiraling the Trillion dollar bowl.

Maybe after the Cons lose another close election (or form a minority govt.) we will see a shake up.
But I doubt it…..the religious nutters seem to have a lock on things these days so its back to Ozzie and Harriet and a 1950’s mindset.
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Blows my mind that they can’t seem to find a decent leader. are there no reasonably normal conservatives out there? Libs are basically handing the election over on a silver platter and the cons are saying no thanks. after the cons lose the next election they’ll split back into two parties, and probably dig their hole a little deeper.

#202 Jb on 07.23.20 at 10:02 am

#198 Orange Man….Orange on 07.23.20 at 9:31 am

Try this experiment, even in downtown Toronto. Wear a Biden hat and see how many Trump supporters will beat and abuse you. My guess is you’ll get a few funny looks and that’s about it.

Then put on a MAGA hat and walk a few blocks. My guess is that you’ll be abused, harangued and verbally assaulted.

Explain to me which group is more tolerant?
………………………………………………………………..
Well it is a good thing that we are not part of the US where Trumps personal federal forces are out on the hunt for anyone that could cause him problems.
Operation Legend is really doing a bang up job in the US. Bill Barr said they have arrested 200 people that are involved in violent criminal activities. The only charges announced in the operation so far were against Monty W. Ray, 20, of Kansas City, who was arrested Friday by an Independence officer and an agent with the U.S. Marshals Service. Ray was charged Monday in federal court with being an unlawful drug user in possession of firearms, according to a criminal complaint. Well that is a bit short of the bar as that describes a large portion of the people in the US they all have guns and love to use drugs. Huh…..so a long way to go Trumpy and Barr!

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article244417362.html

#203 Masks really do make some people more attractive on 07.23.20 at 10:03 am

#196 Dharma Bum on 07.23.20 at 9:28 am
#186 Q2 Duplex Drive

Chicks and millennials LOVE Justin Trudeau. And they could care less about this WE ‘scandal’.
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Right you are.

And neither do most Canadians, because most Canadians are citizens of this country who originated in places that were virtual hell holes, and are appreciative of the fact that they now live in a stable environment with no natural disasters, mass killings, insane religious zealots, REAL racism, tribalism, communism, famine, oppression, caste systems, class systems, disease, war, and smelliness.

Most Canadians are just pretty happy to be here, and just ignore the shenanigans of our stinking rotten-to-the-core corrupt lying shameful so-called “leaders”, because, relatively speaking, it has zero effect on them. They lead great lives here, and can be happy despite the pitiful politician

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Most Canadians are born somewhere else? Not even close. 21.9% of us were born somewhere other than Canada. Keep looking for excuses why the Cons are irrelevant.

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/as-sa/fogs-spg/Facts-can-eng.cfm?Lang=Eng&GK=CAN&GC=01&TOPIC=7#:~:text=Immigrant%20population,%25)%20were%20non-permanent%20residents.

#204 MF on 07.23.20 at 10:06 am

Lol TurnerNation on hyperdrive today. Huge post after huge post trying to appeal to our inner insecurities and fears -the lowest common denominator. Trying to simplify any situation he can’t understand with the same old tired conspiracy that can’t be proven.

Here’s the real question. How on earth does he/she/it have so much time to post? I wish I had that much free time lol.

MF

#205 Faron on 07.23.20 at 10:07 am

#200 Bytor the Snow Dog on 07.23.20 at 9:41 am

Thanks Bytor, that gave me a laugh this morning.

#206 YVR Expat on 07.23.20 at 10:08 am

Half of America thinks Antifa are the paramilitary wing of the left (funded by George Soros?), and are ushering in Communism.

The other half of America thinks Trump’s Federal Agents are the paramilitary wing of the far-right, and ‘The End of the Republic’.

If the country (and media) can’t even agree on who the ‘bad guys’ are, how can it ever move forward?

#207 Andrew on 07.23.20 at 10:19 am

One more thing to the diehard mask supporters! For the past 70 years the medical field and experts has aknowledged that masks DO NOT stop airborn viruses! Look it up!
4 month erased all of that? Boggles the mind of their ignorance and willingness to volunteer and become supporters of tyranny!

BTW Finally some good news, legal action aganst T2 and the rest ofcriminals!
https://mobile.twitter.com/roccogalatilaw

#208 conan on 07.23.20 at 10:22 am

Blows my mind that they can’t seem to find a decent leader.-ain’t life rand

Not one progressive Conservative went for the leadership job. To me that speaks volumes. I think the Cons will pick their leader , and then immediately, begin a process that will see them split into two parties. Maybe three parties if Wexit gets going.

The main problem for the Cons IMHO is that they are too associated with denying science, Donald Trump, and a believe that religion is a good thing to bring to government. Combine that with a sizable component of the youth vote that wants nothing to do with them, and one can see that, until they change their ways, they will never govern Canada again.

Also going against them is that the official national sport of Canada is not lacrosse, it is strategically voting, so that the Con candidate does not win.

#209 IHCTD9 on 07.23.20 at 10:31 am

#165 conan on 07.22.20 at 11:32 pm

…They are allowed to be creative and try new things , some ideas will back fire.

Morneau’s story is one of those where the more you look into it , the more you see its not that bad.

That’s my take,
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If someone caught Trudeau and Morneau killing puppies you’d likely find a way to rationalize it.

#210 Faron on 07.23.20 at 10:38 am

#187 Sail Away on 07.23.20 at 1:00 am

“…Don’t forget to update your dbag portfolio.”

Good morning Sail Away.

Got it. You are still in the red with ICH, and GEO and it looks like BAC juuuuust edged into the green. The ITOT that you don’t hold put on 15% over that timeframe. XBAL a healthy 7%. But, you just rebalanced, so perhaps this no longer applies.

None of that is an attack on you as much as an attack the hubris in making big claims about purchases and gains. And note that I’ll happily eat crow when any of those three take off and begin to grow again. It will happen, I know.

Which reminds me that I have another small olive branch to offer. Thanks for the post w/re rebalancing. That was helpful. I wasn’t holding the target amount of cash and remedied that through a round of profit taking.

I’ll not be addressing your Jian comments. As I wrote in my previous post, our divide here is well trodden. There’s no point.

Have a good day. Summer in SW BC is golden.

#211 the Jaguar on 07.23.20 at 10:44 am

Newspapers focusing on Morneau’s expenses being paid by WE. Wish the news media would look into the same issue with Gerald Butts given his close association with our PM. It might bury both of them.
If we let this opportunity slip through our fingers we will regret it. I wonder if people in the Maritime provinces are finally waking up to the consequences of voting Liberal all the time. Probably not. The Party of handouts.

#212 Dirty Dan on 07.23.20 at 10:58 am

#195 Orange Man….Orange on 07.23.20 at 9:27 am

Please post a link showing a Trump supporter burning and looting. Even one. A single, lonely, solitary one.

You mean the guys with the guns? – Garth

*MOST* of the guys with guns. Someone has to maintain civility after they dismantle the police.

There were also some Democrats who got a taste of “peaceful protesting” after they busted down a private gate and stormed onto their property. They were able to find guns quite quickly…. surprise.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/meet-karen-ken-the-st-louis-lawyers-who-pointed-guns-at-peaceful-protesters/ar-BB167J4u

#213 The West on 07.23.20 at 11:02 am

@crowdedelevatorfartz

No interest in speaking the language of lazy, entitled socialists….I’m good. Alberta and Saskatchewan will be leaving this stupid English colony soon anyways (take that to the bank). Not interested.

On the Freeland comment, you are more correct than you know. Freeland IS the leader of Canada, just not the face. She is the CFR appointed leader of our country and I am sure she heads policy and reports back to our masters across the pond. Go wiki her – she has the alphabet soup of Norman endowment from the family itself.

Trudeau is the dancing monkey on our television, occasionally dipping corrupted hands into the tax payers bank account – its a Liberal tradition.

Take it easy mon ami – good luck out there. Always look forward to your comment on the dog blog’s boards! :)

#214 Sally Boone on 07.23.20 at 11:06 am

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#215 Lambchop on 07.23.20 at 11:08 am

Several months ago my partner and I watched the AmazonPrime series The Man in the High Castle (semi sci/fi). There was a point in the series when the Nazis started to rewrite American history and demoralize dissenters through the destruction of important monuments.
We both thought that nobody, most especially Americans, would ever allow such a thing to happen IRL.

I guess we were wrong.

#216 Mutt on 07.23.20 at 11:09 am

Funny how the CDC used a hair salon study the day after Trump says we should be wearing masks! Look at all the CLINICAL studies on the CDC website and they all conclude masks do not work against flu viruses!

#217 Former Navy Chief on 07.23.20 at 11:11 am

You would think that the PM and the Finance Minister would know better than put themselves in conflict of interest.

One of the first thing that is taught to new public servants is to avoid any situations that may potentially present a conflict of interest, AND avoid any that may appear as a conflict of interest.

What’s sorely lacking in politics is the first rule of leadership: Lead By Example.

#218 Sail Away on 07.23.20 at 11:18 am

#210 Faron on 07.23.20 at 10:38 am

Good morning Sail Away.

Got it. You are still in the red with ICH, and GEO and it looks like BAC juuuuust edged into the green.

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Good morning!

I don’t hold ICH, never have. I did pick up more IEP and GEO (16% div is alluring, if a bit cautionary, but I feel good about both) and a lot more BRK.

#219 MF on 07.23.20 at 11:23 am

213 The West on 07.23.20 at 11:02

An oldie but a goodie:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-alberta-separatism-is-the-dumbest-political-movement-in-canada-today

MF

#220 IHCTD9 on 07.23.20 at 11:44 am

#211 the Jaguar on 07.23.20 at 10:44 am
Newspapers focusing on Morneau’s expenses being paid by WE. Wish the news media would look into the same issue with Gerald Butts given his close association with our PM. It might bury both of them.
If we let this opportunity slip through our fingers we will regret it. I wonder if people in the Maritime provinces are finally waking up to the consequences of voting Liberal all the time. Probably not. The Party of handouts.
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We’re going to let it slip 100%, T2’s popularity is super high even after taking another front kick via the WE scandal.

I expect a Lib majority next election, and 2 more years of F5 spending. Canada will not recover financially in my lifetime, and I more or less expect no serious effort to be made to that end. It’s pretty much not doable given the current voter sentiment. No Government that makes righting the ship a priority will last more than one term in this country.

That means it will happen when there is no other option. Canuck voters will fight it every step of the way, just like the Greeks did.

#221 Damifino on 07.23.20 at 11:48 am

#201 ain’t life rand

… after the cons lose the next election they’ll split back into two parties, and probably dig their hole a little deeper.
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Can’t blame them, really. They’ve been disheartened after getting the most votes in the last election. They’ve yet to learn how our electoral system works.

#222 Jib Halyard on 07.23.20 at 11:59 am

Just a minor quibble, Garth:
Trudeau is our head of government, not head of state (thank god).

#223 Let's burn all the books on 07.23.20 at 12:02 pm

For those who think TN makes stuff up:

https://archive.org/details/AntiCommunitarianManifesto

get it while you can, it has disappeared before

#224 Don Guillermo on 07.23.20 at 12:04 pm

#209 IHCTD9 on 07.23.20 at 10:31 am
#165 conan on 07.22.20 at 11:32 pm

…They are allowed to be creative and try new things , some ideas will back fire.

Morneau’s story is one of those where the more you look into it , the more you see its not that bad.

That’s my take,
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If someone caught Trudeau and Morneau killing puppies you’d likely find a way to rationalize it.

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Executive Summary: I get free money and don’t care what happens to my country.

#225 MF on 07.23.20 at 12:16 pm

214 Let’s burn all the books on 07.23.20

Yeah. And I’m sure the opposite view has their own 300 page text written by people no one has heard of detailing how the world is drifting towards the radicalism from the opposite side of the political spectrum.

Conclusion:

-radical views are evident on both extremes of the political spectrum
-any view one may have can be supported by random internet texts like the one you posted, or books
-keep an open mind, but beware of all propaganda, regardless of political leanings
-ignore your posts like yours

MF

#226 Sail Away on 07.23.20 at 12:23 pm

#209 IHCTD9 on 07.23.20 at 10:31 am
#165 conan on 07.22.20 at 11:32 pm

…They are allowed to be creative and try new things , some ideas will back fire.

Morneau’s story is one of those where the more you look into it , the more you see its not that bad.

That’s my take,

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If someone caught Trudeau and Morneau killing puppies you’d likely find a way to rationalize it.

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Hate crime: the puppies were screaming anti-feline slurs.

#227 Westcdn on 07.23.20 at 12:38 pm

I apparently liked my jolly jumper. My mother would hang me in the backyard shed. My favorite picture was me between two large black dogs with square faces and two deer carcasses hanging in the background – bear bait!

I survived and I loved her although my wife didn’t. She blamed her for the faults I had but not my father.

I am trying to figure these markets out and all I see is emotion. I am cutting back.

#228 ain't life rand on 07.23.20 at 12:39 pm

@#208 conan on 07.23.20 at 10:22 am
Blows my mind that they can’t seem to find a decent leader.-ain’t life rand

Not one progressive Conservative went for the leadership job. To me that speaks volumes. I think the Cons will pick their leader , and then immediately, begin a process that will see them split into two parties. Maybe three parties if Wexit gets going.

The main problem for the Cons IMHO is that they are too associated with denying science, Donald Trump, and a believe that religion is a good thing to bring to government. Combine that with a sizable component of the youth vote that wants nothing to do with them, and one can see that, until they change their ways, they will never govern Canada again.

Also going against them is that the official national sport of Canada is not lacrosse, it is strategically voting, so that the Con candidate does not win.

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so true

#229 NoName on 07.23.20 at 12:40 pm

#213 The West on 07.23.20 at 11:02 am

Take it easy mon ami – good luck out there. Always look forward to your comment on the dog blog’s boards! :)

Sounds like herkul poirot wrote that paragraph him self.

#230 Wrk.dover on 07.23.20 at 12:42 pm

#222 Jib Halyard on 07.23.20 at 11:59 am

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Since the advent of the self furling Genoa in the late 60’s, we don’t use a jib halyard to put the sail away anymore.

#231 Sail Away on 07.23.20 at 1:14 pm

#230 Wrk.dover on 07.23.20 at 12:42 pm
#222 Jib Halyard on 07.23.20 at 11:59 am

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Since the advent of the self furling Genoa in the late 60’s, we don’t use a jib halyard to put the sail away anymore.

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??? Really ???

I personally (and everyone else I know with a furler) connect the jib halyard to the furler top car and hoist it thusly.

I’d be interested in your method, having dispensed with this fairly critical item. Do you crawl up the forestay dragging the genoa behind you?

#232 SWL on 07.23.20 at 1:27 pm

@MF

-keep an open mind, but beware of all propaganda, regardless of political leanings
-ignore your posts like yours

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Do you even read what you write. A complete contradiction and sums you up perfectly with your ‘open mind’ with blinders on. The new system rolling out before our eyes loves the likes of you, for it’s way to unbelievable that one group of humans would conspire against another. Geez Louise open your eyes

#233 RyYYZ on 07.23.20 at 1:51 pm

#216 Mutt on 07.23.20 at 11:09 am
Funny how the CDC used a hair salon study the day after Trump says we should be wearing masks! Look at all the CLINICAL studies on the CDC website and they all conclude masks do not work against flu viruses!
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Repeating the same thing over and over doesn’t make it any more convincing. Less so, if anything. Makes you sound like a crank.

#234 Faron on 07.23.20 at 2:02 pm

#230 Wrk.dover on 07.23.20 at 12:42 pm

#222 Jib Halyard on 07.23.20 at 11:59 am

Because this is a sailing blog… Here’s my take on furlers:

I agree that they make life easier in some ways. And saving the time to hank on sails and run sheets when setting off is pretty nice. And roller reefing gives some security when the wind pipes.

But… my boat came with a furler and I took it off. I had hanks installed on the genoa, purchased a hank-on jib.

Why? Furlers can and do jam at the worst possible time while a hanked on sail can almost always be dropped onto the foredeck.

Sure, you can reef a roller furled sail, but have fun going upwind.

Racing. Unless you are sailing a martin where a furler is part of the design, sail changes are easier with hanks or even more so with a dual foil set-up.

Some items that make life easy on a boat breed complacency that can lead one to trouble.

Granted, this is all on a small boat where handling a 130% genoa isn’t impossible single or short handed. I’d probably reconsider on a craft with a larger foretriangle.

To tie it all together, in my view:

Simplicity afloat is the surest guarantee of happiness.

-L. Herreshoff

#235 AM in MN on 07.23.20 at 2:07 pm

Please post a link showing a Trump supporter burning and looting. Even one. A single, lonely, solitary one.

You mean the guys with the guns? – Garth

I’m surprised by this one Garth. Normally you stick to the facts while the steerage section goes for the hyperbole. There are no such examples you can show. The couple in St. Louis we good white liberals until the mob came for them, and they’ll never vote D again.

This is asymmetric warfare. The side that believes in the rule of law doesn’t use violence against it’s opponents (but will against it’s enemies if it gets that far!), whereas the side that wants to destroy western civilization regularly does.

To anyone in Canada who remembers the ’90’s, think back what happened when the financial stress of the bond market not wanting to lend more money to the govt. at cheap rates finally took it’s toll in a real way for millions of people. Quebec wanting to leave and not take a portion of the debt for instance. Those cracks will come back quickly when the banking system freezes up and the currency crashes.

Right now there’s too much free money out there. People I know involved in supplying the condo business in YVR can’t keep up with demand. They’re too busy to worry about Jr. or any of the other corruption. One day they won’t be so busy, the money won’t be so freely supplied, and they’ll have time to worry.

The pendulum will swing back to conservatism then, and it will be represented by the CPC or a new party or parties. Many of those who think social conservatism isn’t a vote getter will come to see that there is a link between a lack of morality in social issues and corruption in general.

Once you start making the argument that some of the 10 commandments are wrong, why not the others? Thou shalt not steal? Bear false witness? Why should you keep those ones if you get rid of commandments against adultery and coveting thy neighbors goods?

The ways of the left are never permanent, just take the long view.

#236 Phylis on 07.23.20 at 2:14 pm

#230 Wrk.dover on 07.23.20 at 12:42 pm
#222 Jib Halyard on 07.23.20 at 11:59 am

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SA, scan this one for some secret meaning.

#237 Barb on 07.23.20 at 3:00 pm

If Canada’s Ethics Commissioner had any *****, T2 would’ve already fired him.
Ergo EC will only blather for a while.

#238 doesn't make sense on 07.24.20 at 1:11 am

Ok, Trump behaves like a clown.

But saying, 145000 covid deaths will break him, is pure politics.

Supposing 300 millions of US citizens.
Estimating an average lifespan of 80 years.
Gives the result of 3,750,000 deaths (and births) per year, on average.

So, even if the 145,000 covid-deaths (most at over 60 years) are additional, that would be 0.04% more deaths!

To call this covid-flu a Pandemic is insulting to the plague, the “Spanish flu” and every other real pandemic, the world has suffered.

It is just a world-wide mass histery.