More stress

Four of the six Big Banks have now chopped their posted 5-year fixed mortgage rates. That leaves TD and CIBC as the outliers, with everybody else moving to 5.19%.

Of course that’s not the rate you actually borrow at. All of these guys will happily load you up with debt at less than 3% for a fiver. So the ‘posted’ rate is, like me (without the ripped torso), an anachronism. Makes you wonder why they bother, when nobody actually pays that.

The main reason seems (naturally) to make money. By having a high, official, posted rate the banks can charge more when someone breaks their mortgage and must buy their way out. That happens a lot. As you may know the cost of doing this is generally three months’ worth of interest or the difference between the mortgage loan rate and the posted rate over the remaining period of the mortgage – whichever’s more painful. Thus the higher the official number in a declining rate environment, the more to be garnered in break fees.

So while the yield on government bonds has crumbled, and the marketplace is full of home loans as cheap as 1.99%, the banks have maintained these inflated posted rates, even as their own customers load up for far less. Now you know why.

By the way, the fact four of six banks have moved down a little (and the others will probably follow) means the stress test stays at 5.19% for quite a while to come. This week the Royal’s CEO said that was a good thing – that the national housing market “has stabilized” and “achieved balance” as a result of the stress test and other government measures. The test might need some tweaking, he hinted (probably making people renewing mortgages exempt), but is worth hanging on to.

RBC is the largest bank and the biggest mortgage lender. Its CEO does not say stuff off the cuff. Moisters thinking Justin will come along and trash the test should cut back on the ganja. It’s not happening.

$      $      $

This pathetic blog is, like, eleven years old. There have been 3,454 posts containing the same number of words as 43 books (although some of the words may have been used more than once). So far visitors have posted 615,000 comments. Well, actually there were a lot more comments but I deleted those which were in poor taste, demeaning, vulgar, aggressively ad hominem, too damn stupid to publish or wounded my fragile and sensitive nature.

All of those comments appeared here in the order they were written and submitted. No attempt at organization. Complete chaos. Some people like that, especially the morons who get off posting ‘First!’. But many people don’t. Like Ron. He writes:

I have suggested this several times before but I don’t give up easily …

  • Why should you use threaded/nested comments on greaterfool.ca?
    Your visitors can interact and respond to other comments easily and with less confusion, which enhances user experience.
  • If you receive a lot of comments, threaded comments can add a lot to the interactivity of the conversation. With Linear commenting the conversation appears broken.
  • With the threaded comments mode, you control the conversation by setting the level allowed in your comment thread, from 1 to 10 in your dashboard.
  • With default WordPress settings, comments are linear. In this case, longer discussions tend to get confusing, as the reader has to keep track of Who is responding to Whom.
  • You can reply to comments directly within the thread, rather than at the bottom of the Comments Section.

Quite often, those of us in the steerage section find ourselves in the midst of ongoing disputes/discussions/squabbles on the blog. Unfortunately, we have to sift through every comment on the blog since the comments/replies are not grouped accordingly, which is quite time consuming. Oftentimes, replies refer to comments made on previous days’ posts.

This would have HUGE benefits and would allow the “steerage section” to easily “separate the wheat from the chaff”.  Plus, an added benefit for you … they will think you are a technical genius and up on the latest blogging trends, which of course you are.

Threaded comments would certainly allow people to argue with each other more effectively without having to read and absorb other opinions and uncomfortably expand their horizons. But is that a good thing? Will the blog descend into a Reddit-style, navel-gazing, myopic slurry of misinformed, opinionated slop? Or is this how intelligent people use the Internet, able to target their words?

Beats me. I just put on my helmet and hip waders when I visit below decks, and that seems to work. But does Ron have a point? Or does this blog work the way it is? Sort of.

170 comments ↓

#1 Jarad on 07.26.19 at 3:08 pm

First!

#2 slowly boiling frogs on 07.26.19 at 3:10 pm

Keep the comments non-threaded as they are now.

While I have to make an effort to get past much of the crap, it is amazing how many interesting points and useful links I unintentionally find that I may not if I only read through the threaded comments like on some other sites.

#3 Threaded Comments on 07.26.19 at 3:17 pm

This change can become a nightmare because have seen this all before. Many websites have changed their formats too, but change can have unknown consequences that don’t work as well.

#4 PeterfromCalgary on 07.26.19 at 3:21 pm

Threaded is for fighting.

#5 Don't ... on 07.26.19 at 3:26 pm

mess up a good thing. Way too many good things gone already.

#6 MF on 07.26.19 at 3:34 pm

Keep it the way it is.

No need to change a good thing.

Threads make it difficult to navigate the page, and will probably result in an echo chamber worse than it already is.

MF

#7 joblo on 07.26.19 at 3:49 pm

No Thread, no stitching required.

#8 Sask to AB on 07.26.19 at 3:49 pm

Keep it the way it is.

#9 Dolce Vita on 07.26.19 at 3:51 pm

There’s always somebody that can’t leave well enough alone.

It’s a Blog Comment section, not Hansard.

#10 NotLegalAdvice on 07.26.19 at 4:05 pm

Ignore all the noise….stay put and things will work out.

#11 Keen Reader on 07.26.19 at 4:06 pm

Very visually compelling with “helmet and hip waders”, too funny! Threaded comments favour the echo chambers and missing out on other good comments. Besides, CTRL+F works well enough to sift thru the cacophony!

#12 Polecat on 07.26.19 at 4:10 pm

If it’s not broken don’t fix it.

#13 fishman on 07.26.19 at 4:11 pm

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. As Jordan Peterson says: it takes 40% effort to make something 5% better & 5% effort to make something 40% worse.

#14 FreeBird on 07.26.19 at 4:12 pm

Not broken don’t fix it. Keeps this blog unique.

#15 NoName on 07.26.19 at 4:25 pm

I always read content s from last one up, if you go tread style I’ll be lost… Don’t plz do that.

#16 mitzerboyakaQueencitykidd on 07.26.19 at 4:31 pm

no no change
The seasons change that’s enough change

#17 Popeye The Sailor Man on 07.26.19 at 4:32 pm

I would like to see what some peoples penalty for breaking there mortgage would be right now.

Example 80K @ 3 years left of a fixed term.
5.19% – 3.05 % = 2.14% differential
80k X .0214 X 3 = $5136 or
About 6.4% of the mortgage value that’s about two years worth of time. ouch!

Many have a mortgage much bigger than this.

#18 the Jaguar on 07.26.19 at 4:34 pm

It takes little effort to ‘Round Up the Usual Suspects” (those who usually post something interesting), and scroll past the more meaningless ones who do not.
Wish there was a maximum number of posts daily however, as some of the serial posters who don’t even contribute to the subject get annoying (SM).

#19 AB on 07.26.19 at 4:35 pm

Excellent blog Garth…don’t change a thing. Thank you for all the valuable information.

#20 Sail away on 07.26.19 at 4:48 pm

The Egyptian writings of Amenemope (circa 1300 BC) are thirty chapters of advice to provide Amenomope’s son with wisdom about living a successful life. It discusses values and attitudes needed in order to live happily despite the increasing social and economic difficulties in the world.

Sound familiar? Garth, are you a reincarnation?

#21 Jesse on 07.26.19 at 4:49 pm

I like the comments just the way they are, no need to copy the dumpster fire that is Reddit

#22 R1200C on 07.26.19 at 4:52 pm

I think I have made the threaded/nested suggestion a few times too… Thread is certainly the way to go!

And also have the infamous “like/dislike” button to move “hot topics” to the top… I used to read all the comments – then gave up a few years back simply because there is just so much repetition and I didn’t feel like sifting through deja-vus.

Search posts by commentator would definitely facilitate trends and biases detection too.

Why not try?

#23 Large category on 07.26.19 at 4:53 pm

“So far visitors have posted 615,000 comments. Well, actually there were a lot more comments but I deleted those which were … or wounded my fragile and sensitive nature.”

Would you admit that this last category is, in fact, rather large? Also, I believe you left out one category from your list, of course the problem with mentioning it here is that, well, my post will get deleted. That leaves the question, will this post get deleted because the previous sentence has wounded your fragile nature?

#24 Lazy Generation Zer on 07.26.19 at 4:58 pm

Did the US Fed cut rates last week? I’m too lazy to look it up…

Too lazy to answer. – Garth

#25 R1200C on 07.26.19 at 5:01 pm

When I used to do this kind of thing (build websites) for a living a lifetime ago – the 90/9/1 rule of thumb applied… for every 100 visitors, 90 are lurkers and will never post, 9 will make a simple act (like hit the like button or re-post…) and 1 will actually make a comment.
If the idea is to build a community – facilitating ease of finding stuff and enticing folks to submit “simple tasks” is a good way to grow things (it also gives you a new nifty “measurable” to brag about: 615,000 comments and 5 million “likes” would be kinda cool…)

#26 Smoking Man on 07.26.19 at 5:07 pm

Thread it. The way I can battle the SJW without bugging anyone else.

#27 NJS on 07.26.19 at 5:07 pm

Please maintain the status quo.

#28 DON on 07.26.19 at 5:10 pm

I get Ron’s point but…the blog is fine the way it is – forces the troll’s to post out in the open and forces people to gain a wider understanding. This isn’t a popularity contest.

#29 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 5:13 pm

I agree the bickering may increase with threads, it only takes a second to c+p the comment you’re replying to (and cut it to the specific point you’re commenting on to keep the post a bit shorter).

That said,I don’t mind the back and forth as long as it doesn’t devolve into pure stupidity or Internet tough-guy stuff. I can take it at least as well as I dish it out, and never take it personally. Though, I admit I’ve been a little rough on a couple peeps here…

Probably best to leave it the way it is.

#30 DON on 07.26.19 at 5:14 pm

#18 the Jaguar on 07.26.19 at 4:34 pm

It takes little effort to ‘Round Up the Usual Suspects” (those who usually post something interesting), and scroll past the more meaningless ones who do not.
Wish there was a maximum number of posts daily however, as some of the serial posters who don’t even contribute to the subject get annoying (SM).
********************

I thought it was written in stone/blood – a maximum of 5 comments per day.

#31 Damifino on 07.26.19 at 5:15 pm

Ron actually does have a point…

But for other blogs, not for this one. This blog is different. This blog is fast and agile with fresh content daily. There isn’t time for idle banter in ‘threads’.

It’s simple to skip over useless stuff. Here’s a clue: chances are anything longer than about 30 lines is a waste of time (although there are a few exceptions).

The way it is now makes it easy to skip over Smoking Man as I’ve been doing for years. It’s just a given. He’s essentially invisible to me. I do the same for several other posters. I’m sure others skip me too.

Yep, it ain’t broke.

#32 DON on 07.26.19 at 5:18 pm

‘This week the Royal’s CEO said that was a good thing – that the national housing market “has stabilized” and “achieved balance” as a result of the stress test and other government measures.

What about affordability or is the head salesman (CEO) for the bank consuming too much ganja?

#33 Casual observer on 07.26.19 at 5:23 pm

Don’t go changin
To try to please me
Love you just way you are

#34 Yanniel on 07.26.19 at 5:25 pm

I second Ron.

#35 Exurban on 07.26.19 at 5:28 pm

IMO threading would tend to increase the flamewar problem. So leave it as it is.

#36 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 5:29 pm

#20 Sail away on 07.26.19 at 4:48 pm
The Egyptian writings of Amenemope (circa 1300 BC) are thirty chapters of advice to provide Amenomope’s son with wisdom about living a successful life. It discusses values and attitudes needed in order to live happily despite the increasing social and economic difficulties in the world.

Sound familiar? Garth, are you a reincarnation?

———-

You’re asking if Garth is “The Mummy”? :)

#37 Tyrone on 07.26.19 at 5:30 pm

Why would anyone who is from overseas invest in Canadian real estate? Visible minorities are being accosted in public for what they wear.

Quebec’s government should be held accountable for racist attacks against minorities.

Look at this Max Bernier supporter harassing a Muslim woman. I wouldn’t be surprised if Quebec is the place of refuge for the Norway Mass shooter:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/racial-slurs-quebec-1.5225459

We as Haitians should band together, armed to the teeth in military gear, and confront the racists, even if it means a race war!

#38 NorthOf49 on 07.26.19 at 5:32 pm

Keep it the same Garth. Much easier to scroll by the miscreants.

#39 Keith on 07.26.19 at 5:34 pm

Status quo. Threads won’t work with this crowd.

#40 Larry B on 07.26.19 at 5:38 pm

How about those that want to “follow” use the age old short cut “CTRL F” and put your query and find those “threads” you want?

#41 Caledon dave on 07.26.19 at 5:42 pm

Keep it the way it is. By the way you look good dressed in rubber.

#42 Joseph R. on 07.26.19 at 5:43 pm

#4 PeterfromCalgary on 07.26.19 at 3:21 pm
Threaded is for fighting.

—————————————

Bingo! Threaded comments seem to encourage “ganging-up” on the Original Poster rather than fostering public debates.

Indeed, it can still happen in this current format but it is much more difficult After you need to try to follow the conversation within all other posts: trolls don’t like that.

#43 Blue angel on 07.26.19 at 5:49 pm

a blog with 11 years of excellence do not need any change…

#44 toronto on 07.26.19 at 5:53 pm

Bring threaded comments, but don’t allow the Reddit-style voting system. Keep it chronological. People can still get off writing “First!” but it allows people to reply to posts in an organized manner and allows your readers to follow those conversations.

#45 Ex-Cowtown on 07.26.19 at 5:54 pm

Same Same GT.

#46 MF on 07.26.19 at 6:06 pm

Too lazy to answer. – Garth

-Too lazy to lol!

MF

#47 Linda on 07.26.19 at 6:06 pm

Keep the blog as is. Those who want to argue can make an effort. Plus ‘having’ to scroll through comments gives folks access to information they may not have thought of as well as time to think about what they want to say. Not a drawback in my opinion.

#48 Grunt on 07.26.19 at 6:22 pm

More evidence that Canada today amounts to little more than a protective border for six banks and their profits.

#49 Sail away on 07.26.19 at 6:25 pm

#36 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 5:29 pm
#20 Sail away on 07.26.19 at 4:48 pm

The Egyptian writings of Amenemope (circa 1300 BC) are thirty chapters of advice to provide Amenomope’s son with wisdom about living a successful life. It discusses values and attitudes needed in order to live happily despite the increasing social and economic difficulties in the world.

Sound familiar? Garth, are you a reincarnation?

———————————————–

You’re asking if Garth is “The Mummy”? :)

———————————————–

Wow! I didn’t consider that Garth might be Amenemope himself!

He was awakened by a Canadian realtor and is exacting nationwide vengeance.

#50 Clem Kadiddlehopper on 07.26.19 at 6:30 pm

Please keep the comments section the same, unthreaded, chaotic, status quo, Garth. Threaded commenting is for those who think their opinion matters more than anyone else’s and will endlessly argue any point (I have a G&M subscription for that ‘entertainment’).

#51 TurnerNation on 07.26.19 at 6:33 pm

A reminder we are under a ClimateEmergency in this weblog’s comments section.
Threading would only increase all the huffing and puffing. So no.

#52 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 6:40 pm

#31 Damifino on 07.26.19 at 5:15 pm
Ron actually does have a point…

But for other blogs, not for this one. This blog is different. This blog is fast and agile with fresh content daily. There isn’t time for idle banter in ‘threads’.
——

That’s a good point. New page every day, way too fast moving to allow long winded arguing.

#53 Ken M. on 07.26.19 at 6:40 pm

#63 Smoking Man on 07.25.19 at 1:44 am
Zero to 20 took Along time
20 to 40 was faster.
40 to 60 was in a blink of an eye.
=======================

you wasted most the last 11 years coming here just to get ignored!!!!

#54 Christina on 07.26.19 at 6:41 pm

Please keep it the same, Garth. That format might work for other blogs, but not this one.

#55 akashic record on 07.26.19 at 7:00 pm

Thread it only if you can handle the stress level, associated with globalism losing ground, quantified, visualized. :)

#56 acdel on 07.26.19 at 7:03 pm

Ha, after Garth’s blog today you must be so proud of yourself Jarad. Yeh, ok, hey everybody out there I am not first; whoo hoo! Big clap to the first that claim first! :)

Nobody has a problem with banks making profits but everybody has a problem on how badly they basically screw their very own customers on top of record profits. It will change hopefully sooner rather then later.

#57 Out Of Work CEO, Will Travel on 07.26.19 at 7:08 pm

This blog is an eye opener to gather a broad variety of Canadiana opinion and at times it really kills me it’s so funny. Garth, too. It’s informative and rich in context and getting to share with other Canadians a wide spectrum of insight sheds light on our blessed northern tundra. Very entertaining. Open and democratic…try to get that in mainstream media.

#58 MininMission on 07.26.19 at 7:09 pm

Leave it the way it is.

#59 AACI Homedog on 07.26.19 at 7:10 pm

I say, no need for modifications. It may be interesting in following certain blog dog post threads, but also be perhaps tedious. I already waste too much time on this pathetic blog. Thank you heartfully, Garth.

#60 the Jaguar on 07.26.19 at 7:11 pm

@ Don # 30….maybe you are correct. I will begin a count for my own amusement, but even five seems to border on verbosity, though if the content supported it I wouldn’t bat an eyelash. I have my list of ‘reliables’, and Don’s name is on the list.
It would be interesting if on some singular calendar day, ( New Years Eve, for example) Garth posted a list of the ‘most memorable’ posts. Garth, we ( the blog dogs) could even submit our favourites to see if they would make the ‘cut’. ‘ Mafioso’ ( Fishman) and the ex-pat Pilot ( BillyBob) would be included in my list, but that slapdown of yours the other day was classic, Don.
There are a couple of other fringe posters who are so infrequent, but memorable..hhmm. Where is that guy who commented on the Montreal marketplace? ( building quality, ownership held in small circles, etc. ) That was a brilliant post. He/She has submerged. Come back to us, darling….

#61 acdel on 07.26.19 at 7:15 pm

Thread, yeah right Garth. You are not that type!

#62 Sail away on 07.26.19 at 7:19 pm

Anyone want to talk shop?

What’s the financial move to be made?

Money is cheap, markets are high, Canadian preferred shares are on sale, value investing is uncertain, oil’s stagnant, gold is silly, political stability is a misnomer.

How about… do nothing. Money will stay cheap for a while. Re-evaluate the situation as conditions change.

#63 Vision on 07.26.19 at 7:20 pm

#37 Tyrone
“We as Haitians should band together, armed to the teeth in military gear, and confront the racists, even if it means a race war!”
————
Why are you bringing up racism in this blog?
Stick to the topic.
These comments are hateful.

#64 Billy on 07.26.19 at 7:21 pm

Don’t change for change sake. Debate seems to be about how much the Fed will cut by next week and yet CAD has been falling back. Might be correlated with some polls showing Libs ahead….

#65 kommykim on 07.26.19 at 7:22 pm

Keep it the same so I can highlight “– Garth”, hit CTRL-C, CTRL-F, CTRL-V, and enjoy lots of laughs.

#66 Mike on 07.26.19 at 7:25 pm

Ron is right. Time to put a new motor in the blog and move it into the 21st Century. That thing gotta Hemi???

#67 S.Bby on 07.26.19 at 7:39 pm

I don’t care …

#68 Flop... on 07.26.19 at 7:46 pm

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#69 Shawn Allen on 07.26.19 at 7:56 pm

Who Do the Banks Have Compromising Pictures Of?

Garth, in a heroic act of public service (I say this of course to suck up), documents above that the posted mortgage rates are used to artificially inflate break fees on mortgages.

It’s like if you had a lease with 6 months remaining at $2000 per month but the landlord said look at the fine print, my “posted” lease rate was $3000 so you owe me a break fee of $3000 times six months as opposed to $2000 times six. Would be laughed out of court? Where is the consumer protection law to prevent this behavior by banks? Government regulators asleep?

“The Bay” got in trouble for having a posted regular mattress price of say $3000 and then giving 50% off at $1500. Fact was they had ever charged the full regular rate so it was false advertising. Criminal. But okay for banks to do it. Competition and advertising regulators asleep or off drinking with the consumer protection regulators?

And what is the reason the Bank of Canada chose to use the average of fake posted rates? Stupidity? It was too hard to track the actual market 5 year rates? They simply wanted the highest stress test they could justify?

#70 Yuus bin Haad on 07.26.19 at 7:57 pm

To me, each post is just one big thread (and that’s a good thing)

#71 Shawn Allen on 07.26.19 at 7:58 pm

Threaded?

No, the existing format is an obvious winner. As I said a few days ago it keeps the readers literally all on the same page.

#72 Bytor the Snow Dog on 07.26.19 at 7:59 pm

Garth-

Don’t change a godamn thing.

#73 Really! on 07.26.19 at 8:09 pm

Please keep it the same Garth! I have been reading your blog for 10 yrs and scroll and read through the comments every day! Thank you so much for all that do, and your dedication to the blog! My day doesn’t end until I read your blog and peruse the comments which is simple to do as is!

#74 Rural Rick on 07.26.19 at 8:21 pm

Every one out here at the Rick Ranch likes the present format. Please don’t change it. We have enough other problems.

#75 Smartalox on 07.26.19 at 8:24 pm

Please don’t thread the comments, it really does just promote argument. Often i’ll post something relevant to the blog post, but not get drawn into arguments.

Go foght it out on reddit or 8chan.

#76 Blessed Canadian Millenial on 07.26.19 at 8:33 pm

Garth, I appreciate you asking your readers what we want.

But it isn’t about what we want; it’s about what YOU want out of your blog.

Do you want this blog to grow even more? Do you want to embrace new tech and keep your blog current with new features?

Or are you comfortable with how it’s been performing as is?

By answering these questions truthfully will determine what you want to do. However, I know what you are going to do: leave the system as is. And that’s not a bad thing.

#77 Ustabe on 07.26.19 at 8:36 pm

Never enter into a mortgage unless one of the terms/conditions allows you to port it.

You may never use it but being allowed to move your remaining mortgage over to the new place negates break fees. In this case port is short for portable.

Terms and conditions in a mortgage document can be added and deleted by you…if the lender accepts you’re in. In my experience they don’t care unless you get really stupid. But portability, waiving of prepayment fees, etc…fill your boots.

I hope I’m not on a list…that usually doesn’t turn out well for me.

#78 kc on 07.26.19 at 8:39 pm

I don’t comment as much as did years ago, don’t read all the comments sections every day, but when i do, i say leave it as is. it is a easy to scroll though page and skim read what needs to be read.

cheers

#79 Work and Tumble on 07.26.19 at 8:44 pm

I have been reading the blog for many years and feel it is fine the way it is, maybe a thumb up or down would be nice.
No need to read people trashing one another’s opinions or comments.

#80 ToonTown Stud on 07.26.19 at 8:46 pm

For anyone that wants a threaded comments section just go on reddit. There is already a subreddit for this site. Put in r/Greaterfool in the search bar and voila. Just be aware, I don’t think there has ever been a comment posted so you may be there first.

#81 SoggyShorts on 07.26.19 at 8:47 pm

#116 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 10:23 am
#92 SoggyShorts on 07.25.19 at 11:41 pm
#83 IHCTD9 on 07.25.19 at 10:37 pm
#52 Do Your Research Please Garth on 07.25.19 at 8:07 pm

That link shows only the bare electricity costs, you have to add on a slew of other charges (line losses, delivery, provincial benefit etc…) and of course taxes to get the real cost.
**********************
No, I’m sorry but your thinking on this is all wrong.
Those charges are nearly irrelevant to the discussion.
My bill 2 months ago for 400 KWh $25 for usage and $50 for other crap like delivery charges.
That’s 66% of the bill in addons.
Last month was $45 for 600KWh plus $55 in addons
Now the addons are only 45% of the bill.

I increased my usage by 50% and my bill only went up 33%.
The more you use the less those fees matter.

Think of it like a vacation to Mexico- You have to pay for the flights no matter how long you go for, so if you go for longer the flight cost becomes a smaller and smaller part of the expense.

#82 Pat on 07.26.19 at 8:47 pm

Keep it as is! Great work!

#83 Moses71 on 07.26.19 at 8:52 pm

No need to Raggedy-Ann or Lamb Chop your site to a threaded one
Why change chiseled perfection?

#84 Chaddywack on 07.26.19 at 8:55 pm

Keep it the same. Reddit is annoying will all the high Millennials bitching about why I have more money than they do.

I like the company here better.

#85 45north on 07.26.19 at 8:58 pm

Tyrone changed my mind:

We as Haitians should band together, armed to the teeth in military gear, and confront the racists, even if it means a race war!

This is a dumb-ass comment. I doubt Tyrone is Haitian. He doesn’t resemble people that I know with a Haitian background.

if the comments were threaded, this would ignite a pissing match. As it is, the comment just disappears. Along with Tyrone.

#86 Rico on 07.26.19 at 8:59 pm

Thread it. The number of posts that reference a previous post is huge. Don’t make me scroll up.

#87 OKcat on 07.26.19 at 9:02 pm

As is. Thank you.

#88 Em on 07.26.19 at 9:03 pm

I would like threaded comments (though I think I’ve only ever commented twice)
So much easier than commenting to #27 or whatever, when maybe someone else already has anyway.
Since you’re editing anyway, you could just delete the useless, unhelpful replies and bickering

#89 albertaguy on 07.26.19 at 9:04 pm

Leave as is please.

#90 Nonplused on 07.26.19 at 9:07 pm

I think threaded comments would be cool and even email notifications when someone responds, but only if it is not too much work or expense for you. You already do enough. I don’t know how the “inbox” works at your end but if threaded comments meant you had to go through each thread then I would say no, but if the computer handles it without much change to what you have to do then why not?

One of the advantages to threaded comments would be that people who aren’t interested in a thread don’t have to look at any follow on comments. But that has to be weighed against the effort involved on your part. For example maybe threaded comments would save those 150 of us fools who do comment here 10 minutes a day, which is a lot of cumulative minutes, but if it costs you and extra 20 minutes it is probably not fair to ask you to do it.

Would it increase traffic? As you have pointed out before the vast majority of readers do not wander down into steerage. If it would increase traffic that would be another reason to do it but I don’t know that it will. Most people come here for Garth, not steerage, and half the time when I do comment the comment is directed at you or Ryan or Doug not steerage. Granted the other half the time it is directed at steerage.

On the days I look to see if I have any replies, which isn’t always, I’d say I get about the average amount of replies maybe a bit more. So an email notification that comes with threading would be helpful to make sure I am aware of any replies on the days I don’t look. When I do get replies I like to see them and respond if appropriate. But does anyone ever see my replies to their replies? There is no way to know because the cycle is less than 24 hours long and those folks are not getting notified if I reply to their reply. So again I think it would be nice. But not if it costs you much in the way of time and/or money.

#91 Nonplused on 07.26.19 at 9:14 pm

#81 SoggyShorts on 07.26.19 at 8:47 pm

Are we talking about electric cars here? If we are, then realize that widespread adoption of electric cars is going to drive the delivery costs way up to fund all the infrastructure that will be required to transport the electricity to all those garages and charge stations.

#92 Ace Goodheart on 07.26.19 at 9:16 pm

Keep the comments as they are.

Threads just allow people to have ongoing “internet wars” with each other.

#93 Tedfiftyfour on 07.26.19 at 9:17 pm

“Makes you wonder why they bother, when nobody actually pays that“

Garth this posted rate is extremely important because it is used to determine the interest rate adjustment penalty in the event the mortgage is paid out earlier than the term or if a prepayment is more than that allowed. It clearly states in mortgage commitments that this is the rate to be used in determining penalties, so yes it is important for it to be posted.

Ah, dude, I said that. – Garth

#94 tccontrarian on 07.26.19 at 9:18 pm

But does Ron have a point?

——

Yes, I think he does.
Main reason? Well, if 2 or more posters want to go back and forth on an issue (which doesn’t necessarily interest most others), they can do so more privately.

At least give it a try and see how it goes. Can always switch it back if things go off…

#95 Classical Liberal Millennial on 07.26.19 at 9:19 pm

Threaded comments: yes
Anonymous comments: no

Make people link to a FB or Google or something that shows their name.

#96 Animal lover on 07.26.19 at 9:22 pm

My vote would be to leave it the way it is now. I’ve been following this blog for years, love it, never miss a day, and don’t make my choice without considering the alternative seriously. Thanks once again Garth for your wonderful blog. I’ve learned so much over the years.

#97 Lookinin on 07.26.19 at 9:25 pm

Stay the course, Garth. I just use “Control + F” on a PC or “Find in Page” on Firefox mobile to search for favs or keywords. That’s enough.
And once again, thanks for all that you do! Cheers.

#98 Phylis on 07.26.19 at 9:28 pm

I can scroll it all with a thumb. Threading will just add to the poking around of an ipad. I vote for kiss.

#99 BC Renovator on 07.26.19 at 9:35 pm

BMO offered me 2.9% on 5 year fixed today for a rental property I have in Kelowna… Boom! Sign me up

Who cares about Comment’ers like that Dumbass Trumpapocalypse and Ron, find something better to do with your time

#100 tccontrarian on 07.26.19 at 9:37 pm

Scrolling though quickly to see what others are voting, I see that many are afraid that making it ‘threaded’ would ‘promote arguing’.
Clearly, Canadians have forgotten how to have conversation with individuals espousing opposing view-points.

But then again, it shouldn’t be a surprise – as Lindsay Shepherd found out for showing a video (of J.P.) to her students in her attempt to expose them to alternate viewpoints.

We’ve become a society of intollerants! And many I’ve found, don’t even understand the difference between making an ‘argument’ and ‘arguing’.

Oh well…

#101 Ronaldo on 07.26.19 at 9:46 pm

K.I.S.S., that’s my motto. Sometimes when we think we are improving something we often make a helluva mess of it. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

#102 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 9:58 pm

#81 SoggyShorts on 07.26.19 at 8:47 pm
#116 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 10:23 am
#92 SoggyShorts on 07.25.19 at 11:41 pm
#83 IHCTD9 on 07.25.19 at 10:37 pm
#52 Do Your Research Please Garth on 07.25.19 at 8:07 pm

That link shows only the bare electricity costs, you have to add on a slew of other charges (line losses, delivery, provincial benefit etc…) and of course taxes to get the real cost.
**********************
No, I’m sorry but your thinking on this is all wrong.
Those charges are nearly irrelevant to the discussion.
My bill 2 months ago for 400 KWh $25 for usage and $50 for other crap like delivery charges.
That’s 66% of the bill in addons.
Last month was $45 for 600KWh plus $55 in addons
Now the addons are only 45% of the bill.

I increased my usage by 50% and my bill only went up 33%.
The more you use the less those fees matter.

Think of it like a vacation to Mexico- You have to pay for the flights no matter how long you go for, so if you go for longer the flight cost becomes a smaller and smaller part of the expense
———

My usage is 800-1000 kWh per month, and the bottom line cost was consistent. The bulk (not all) of the add on fees are applied to usage by the kWh, so using more, costs more. The biggest factor affecting the bottom line cost for me was the TOU billing factor.

I paid pretty close attention to my bill from the point Mcguinty “brought in competition” right until Wynne caved in and subsidized hydro a few years back. I even called up hydro one to get a breakdown of all the fees buried in the bill, and what percent of the usage each was.

I don’t bother with the minutia of the various fees – bottom line divided by total kWh consumed – done. For me the cost was consistent with mostly small variations month to month.

Keep in mind, there was a pretty big difference in costs/fees based on your areas density – I live in a low density area which got hit the hardest. I’m sure once the subsidy period ends, I’ll be in the same boat.

#103 Blog Dog Steve on 07.26.19 at 10:13 pm

I rarely comment. I rarely read the comments. When I do comment it’s because there’s something to say. Go with your gut (I mean chiseled abs!) Garth. There’s no issue with the current setup. If there are a group of individuals who want to hear their voices and argue with randoms, let them start a forum.

#104 Troy McClure on 07.26.19 at 10:51 pm

“CTRL-F Flop” is all I need to read the comments section.

#105 Lurker on 07.26.19 at 11:16 pm

Keep it as is. I like reading others opinions in the steerage section and the open discussions.

#106 akashic record on 07.26.19 at 11:16 pm

#95 Classical Liberal Millennial on 07.26.19 at 9:19 pm

Threaded comments: yes
Anonymous comments: no

Make people link to a FB or Google or something that shows their name.

Classical millennial, trusts FB or Google or something with his/her name :)

#107 Coastal on 07.26.19 at 11:20 pm

Keep as is.
Allows a variety of perspectives without having to categorize.

#108 Fired for Cause CEO - 30 mil offshore on 07.26.19 at 11:30 pm

Unexpected bump in Okanagan housing inventory this past week to a new record on the week.

If the economy is so great, 50,000 short on trades in BC then why aren’t people buying homes?

The contraction in construction jobs will void the shortage soon enough.

I remember reading the same BS in the Globe and Mail week after week about the skills shortage and retiring boomers. You know what fixed it? The financial crisis and 30 million job cuts in North America.

We went from a skills shortage to a skills surplus overnight. And that spawned people like realtor AJ.

Once equities start falling the all in boomers are going to make their final rush for the exits. Way too much invested by them late stage and if the drop in housing wasn’t enough man they are in for it one final time. And too old to recover.

#109 Kevin on 07.26.19 at 11:37 pm

Ron is 100% right. I’ve been suggesting this too, but ignored. Thanks Garth. :(…

I hate having to read all these comments, most are junk. I’d like threaded comments, and the ability to vote comments up or down too if possible (reddit style) so the best rises to the top, and the useless comments sink as they should. Come on, Garth, it’s easy to make happen.

#110 Groinsmash on 07.26.19 at 11:51 pm

100% please change the comment format. There’s so much insane trash one needs to sift through in the comments section. My most hated are the long posts about how some house in Victoria sold for X under asking with links all over the place.

I find myself scrolling through the comments looking for the italics of a Garth reply. Those are the best.

#111 Threaded on 07.27.19 at 12:01 am

Please go threaded….

It enables you to skip uninteresting off topic tangents in one click.

For instance,
If I am not interested in Smoking Man’s drivel, neither will I be interested in anyone who comments on it.

-> collapse thread. Done.

#112 TrumpIsLeavingSoon on 07.27.19 at 12:14 am

The comments are fine the way they are. Please don’t change it.

#113 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.27.19 at 12:14 am

#95 Classical Liberal Millennial on 07.26.19 at 9:19 pm
Threaded comments: yes
Anonymous comments: no

Make people link to a FB or Google or something that shows their name.
————-
Good idea.
Why don’t you go first.
Post your full name and g-mail address.
And see what happens.

#114 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.27.19 at 12:19 am

Garth,
Nothing wrong with the blog.
An IQ filter would be nice, though.

#115 Cici on 07.27.19 at 12:55 am

Love the comments section as is.

Thanks and keep up the great work!

#116 VicPaul on 07.27.19 at 1:02 am

#37 Tyrone on 07.26.19 at 5:30 pm

We as Haitians should band together, armed to the teeth in military gear, and confront the racists, even if it means a race war!

Geez…this is what it is now…identity politics – it’s always about race.
Though, I think the video makes it very clear, he was angry about the language – is it news that the French-Canadians are hyper-protective/arrogantly exclusive about their language? It is not news to any Anglo white guy who’s had dinner in downtown Quebec City and tried to speak anglais – this is NOT an excuse for this man’s abhorrent behaviour – let’s call out bad behaviour from ALL sides – but let’s stop throwing around the racist tag every. single. day. Ugh!

#117 theoryAndPractice on 07.27.19 at 1:29 am

Simplicity is the best as it is now.
Use ctrl+f to find…

Sometimes a post refers to multiple posts. It is not possible to do so in threaded views…

Alternativley allowing users to choose either way may be an option but isn’t worth the effort…

#118 steerage steward on 07.27.19 at 1:29 am

Rent and invest in Bank stocks then?

After all anyone can come to this site and be educated and entertained.

If they choose ignorance we might as well make money out of it.

#119 theoryAndPractice on 07.27.19 at 1:32 am

Simplicity is the best as it is now.
Use ctrl+f to find…

Sometimes a post refers to multiple posts. It is not possible to do so in threaded views…

Alternativley allowing users to choose either way may be an option but isn’t worth the effort…

#120 Piet on 07.27.19 at 1:38 am

Threaded comments would make it a lot easier to follow discussions that appeal to personal interest and would encourage more in-depth exploration of topics. However, it would be easier for argumentative personalities to engage in meaningless bickering, and monitoring this garbage would create more work and annoyance for our host. It’s obviously up to you, Garth. Do whatever imparts joy.

#121 Hans on 07.27.19 at 1:56 am

Changing this blog comment section will have a large impact on number of comments.. it will be explosive. You will need more help otherwise more steerage comments will slip through the cracks.

For the reader it’ll be great though.

#122 Not So New guy on 07.27.19 at 1:59 am

This blog will thrive no matter which format you use because it talks common sense and allows for civil rebuttal.

Threaded is certainly easier to follow but the smart people on this blog do not need easier. I think it is better to exercise your memory using linear but that could cause many good conversations to be lost due to people not being able to find the original argument.

Threaded might have another benefit. The arguments that are just there to be in front of everyone as an ego-fest and not really for any point will go away since they will be forced to ‘get a room’ and not take it in front of the whole room. Once the audience skips past much of the benefit disappears.

I’d vote for threads

I must say, Garth, you are soundly rounding into a well-formed curmudgeon ;)

#123 SoggyShorts on 07.27.19 at 2:57 am

#102 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 9:58 pm
#81 SoggyShorts on 07.26.19 at 8:47 pm
#116 IHCTD9 on 07.26.19 at 10:23 am
#92 SoggyShorts on 07.25.19 at 11:41 pm
#83 IHCTD9 on 07.25.19 at 10:37 pm
#52 Do Your Research Please Garth on 07.25.19 at 8:07 pm

The fact remains that if you doubled your electricity consumption you would not double your electricity bill, so using just the bottom line of your current bill is inaccurate.

#124 Smoking Man on 07.27.19 at 3:29 am

Marriage without dog in your life..

https://youtu.be/mIBTg7q9oNc

#125 Howard on 07.27.19 at 4:05 am

I vote NO to threaded comments, Garth!

Threads are annoying, and if one is following the comments throughout the day one wants to be able to see the most recent by simply skipping to the bottom.

Also, what frequently happens in threaded comment sections is that showboats who want their comments to be viewed by as many people as possible will simply respond to the first thread rather than submit a new standalone comment at the bottom, even if said comment had nothing to do with the issue raised in the first thread.

The blog is fine as it is. Less is more, KISS (keep it simple stupid), etc.

#126 Dolce Vita on 07.27.19 at 4:48 am

If travelling to most of the EU in the next week or so, bring LOTS OF STUFF TO KEEP COOL.

Right click Google Chrome, Translate to English (temps do not include US and Cdn “humidex”, parts of Sicilia at 50°C, sans humidex):

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/articoli/Caldo-battuto-record-giugno-vicini-a-50-gradi-al-Centro-e-al-Sud-44adfac6-624e-4a2b-b941-43e78509195f.html

PS:

It’s hot for us too, so no shame Canada in bitching whilst you are here. This year has been unseasonably hot, this all started in late June, way, way too early.

And for once, you can wear your tawdry GAP near naked outfits with flip flops…we are not without a heart in Italia (the fashion capital of the World). Though, do take a shower every so often.

As for me, 24,000 Btu/hr AC barely keeping up. Oh well, it’s not called Sunny Italy for nothing. I’m heading for Alpine environs come next week, screw the Blue Flag beaches.

Ciao d’Italia (Inferno di Dante).

#127 Dolce Vita on 07.27.19 at 5:10 am

PS, Forgot to Mention:

When it is this hot and humid in Italia, you will get what they call:

Nubifraggi

violent cloudbursts of near torrential rain in the matter of a few minutes and sometimes with hail, lots. You get humidity relief right away but a right bollocking of torrential rain (and hail at times) in the process.

Bring an UMBRELLA with you as well Canada if visiting Italia in the next week or so, the type that can handle violent cloudbursts.

Check your weather app frequently. These things come out of nowhere.

To give you and idea, my May 20, 2017 at Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome in the afternoon and lunch time violent cloudburst near Il Colosseo (nubifraggio had just started, not even 1 min. worth of rain):

Basilica, a few hours later:

https://i.imgur.com/tQxFmLJ.jpg

Colosseo Nubifraggio, a few hours before:

https://i.imgur.com/H5fq3Ua.jpg

#128 Dolce Vita on 07.27.19 at 5:22 am

Early riser I take note My Liege, presumably in Nuova Scozia.

Buona Mattina Garth!

Ciao d’Italia.

#129 Stock Market Speculator on 07.27.19 at 5:54 am

Just forget Ron
He wants things organized so pissing contests prevail on a daily basis. Go start your own blog.
Please leave it the way it is. Can’t beat perfection with slices of free advice.

#130 Earlybird on 07.27.19 at 7:45 am

Why mess with perfection?

#131 Keep as is on 07.27.19 at 7:57 am

I vote, leave as is.

Flop DELETED… whaaaaat?!

#132 maxx on 07.27.19 at 8:03 am

This blog is just fine – dawgs are meant to snap and yowl.
It’s like panning for gold.
Maybe Ron should learn to read faster.

#133 Elcheapo on 07.27.19 at 8:08 am

Personally I vote for threads, but why not give it a try for 30 days then maybe a quick poll/vote? Or just unilaterally decide to keep or ditch- it’s your blog after all.

#134 Phylis on 07.27.19 at 8:11 am

Good point of thread=forum vs unthread=comment. I assume the point is to have brief comments and a limited forum discussion. Likes=echo chamber, this is already moderated fairly.

#135 IHCTD9 on 07.27.19 at 8:25 am

#123 SoggyShorts on 07.27.19 at 2:57 am

The fact remains that if you doubled your electricity consumption you would not double your electricity bill…
——-

Correct.

But It’s also entirely possible to double my hydro usage and MORE than double my hydro bill.

As I mentioned, TOU was the biggest factor in what my bill looked like at the end of the month, not the very short list of fees that were fixed monthly costs.

#136 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.27.19 at 8:29 am

@#128 Dolce Vita

Well its a balmy 18c and sunny at 9:30am in Halifax on Sat morn.
Highs today expected to reach a tolerable 26c.
A far more enjoyable temp than the Dante’s Inferno that is Europe.
The city enjoyed a rare sight yesterday as the two Cunard Line transatlantic liners; Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary 2 both departed at 6pm and circled the harbour before a crowd of thousands and a flotilla of small boats…….free entertainment….
They exited the harbor at 7:30pm and one headed north to Newfoundland and one south to New York.
A fine , balmy night even at the mouth of the harbor……

#137 Bytor the Snow Dog on 07.27.19 at 8:58 am

109 Kevin-
114 Pontius-

Boy you think quite of yourselves don’t you. Too “smart” to use a scroll wheel?

#138 Bytor the Snow Dog on 07.27.19 at 8:58 am

QUITE “HIGHLY” DAMMIT!

#139 IHCTD9 on 07.27.19 at 9:26 am

#113 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.27.19 at 12:14 am
#95 Classical Liberal Millennial on 07.26.19 at 9:19 pm
Threaded comments: yes
Anonymous comments: no

Make people link to a FB or Google or something that shows their name.
————-

Good idea.
Why don’t you go first.
Post your full name and g-mail address.
And see what happens
——-

Exactly.

We’ve already seen one guy here corrupting another dog’s LinkedIn page out of spite.

#140 Penny Henny on 07.27.19 at 9:28 am

This blog is 11 years old?

In dog years that’s about as old as you Garth :)

Now have you ever sat down and calculated how much time you spent/wasted on here?

#141 RedKnave on 07.27.19 at 9:31 am

I vote for threaded comments.
I read this blog first thing(ish) in the morning. I rarely venture into the comments section and typically I can never get past the first 10 or so because they are all unconnected.
One complaint above was that some posts refer to multiple other posts and you couldn’t do that if they were threaded. Well, you wouldn’t have to since the posts you were referring to would all be in the same thread.
Threading allows for a conversation, a sharing of opinions on an issue (or, yes, a flame war). Individual comments are one off statements. Reading the first post in a thread would make it easier to decide whether or not to get involved.
Also, we already have multiple posts here today that refer to previous posts often by post number or poster name. Does that not beg for threading?

#142 Smoking Man on 07.27.19 at 9:40 am

Just curious , all the smoking man bashing. When you say what you are typing. Does it sound like a weathered tough guy who hasent sleeped in a few days. Or a girly voice longing for flowers.

#143 Penny Henny on 07.27.19 at 9:42 am

Garth what’s good about the current set up is if I pop on here lets say 5 times a day, I can just go to where I left off and not have bother with going through any threads.
Much easier this way.
Thanks

#144 Smoking Man on 07.27.19 at 9:58 am

Hey earthlings

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/794120/Snake-UFOs-across-US-military-craft-Space-Force-alien-news-video

#145 AfterTheHouseSold on 07.27.19 at 10:04 am

Love the comments just the way they are. While a little tedious for researching the archives, they are just fine for the blog’s daily format.

Thanks for providing this excellent blog Garth.

#146 SWL on 07.27.19 at 10:07 am

Keep the chaos, helmet and hip waders

Scott

#147 Time for change on 07.27.19 at 10:16 am

I’d go with a DISQUS style comments section.
One great feature of it is that you can block the commenters you’re not interested in.
Imagine not having to see posts by smokingman, crowded elevator farts and Stan brooks.

#148 Westcoast Woman on 07.27.19 at 10:35 am

No threads, keep it as it is! Each day I read the post, then scan ALL of the posts starting at the top. If I don’t get through them all in one sitting, or revisit it then I start at the bottom and scroll up. People are great at including the post # if they are commenting on a comment.
F51BC

#149 Westcoast woman on 07.27.19 at 10:37 am

Although an EDIT function would be nice! I meant “I read the post, then scan ALL of the comments…” but that was probably obvious.

#150 LP on 07.27.19 at 10:50 am

#135 crowdedelevatorfartz on 07.27.19 at 8:29 am

What a lovely and lively word picture you’ve painted. I can hear the boat whistles, the crowds cheering, the wakes from the big ships tossing the smaller ones around a little. The smell of the water and cries of the gulls are there too. Thank-you! I wish I were there.

And Garth, no changes please. We’ll manage without.

#151 LP on 07.27.19 at 11:01 am

#114 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.27.19 at 12:19 am

An IQ filter would be nice, though.
********************************

Aw nuts! I’d be left out.

#152 maxx on 07.27.19 at 11:15 am

@ #126

Unreal……halfway to boiling point. Hope it breaks soon.

#153 As Is Old Man on 07.27.19 at 11:55 am

Keep is simple. This is a comments section after all – not a discussion board. That said, I suggest a simple enhancement for replies:

Add a “Reply” button with each comment that when clicked would automatically include a quoted reference in the new comment. A simple and useful convenience. You could stop right there and satisfy many readers.

Or you could go a step further and add the option to display replies sequentially for those who are interested. For everyone else, all comments would still, by default, appear sequentially.

Personally, I would go with the basic enhancement. If people want to see all the replies they can just search the page.

p.s. It would also be an idea to include a few simple html formatting tips with the comment submission form (e.g. block quote, bold, etc.)

#154 As Is Old Man on 07.27.19 at 11:59 am

By the way, Smoking Man is half the reason I visit this site. Who would you rather have a beer with? For me it is Smoking Man and Bill Grable. So many people are “boaring”.

#155 Ponzius Pilatus on 07.27.19 at 12:21 pm

Smokey is a shadow of himself.
Ever since he moved to the states, or did he?

#156 expat on 07.27.19 at 12:25 pm

Is this fight club or a blog…

Not sure

#157 Steven Rowlandson on 07.27.19 at 12:26 pm

It sounds like the banks know that if they don’t lend at a discount to stated rates they run the risk of people defaulting on loans that are already rather cheap. They are playing for time I think.

#158 suburban coyote and pup on 07.27.19 at 12:50 pm

keep it in its current taut and chiselled perfection…….

#159 Flop... on 07.27.19 at 1:04 pm

#130 Keep as is on 07.27.19 at 7:57 am
I vote, leave as is.

Flop DELETED… whaaaaat?!

///////////////////

Yeah my unbroken record of 11,368 straight posts without a delete is over.

I guess I wrote something Garth didn’t agree with.

Pretty sure he called someone numb nuts the other day.

This blog sometimes has a double standard.

At least it has standards…

M45BC

#160 Coastal Zapper on 07.27.19 at 1:05 pm

Garth

Threaded would be better for people who are having productive conversations but as we’ve all seen, that would be few and far between.

I would like you to try changing and see if it helps or hurts.

It looks like a bulk of the crowd on here are older and change scares them, they are not use to that format. It would help the comment section because if you don’t want to continue reading on a certain post you just move to the next. It would speed up the process of going through all of them.

That said, reading the comment section it doesn’t look like anything will change anytime soon.

Cheers

#161 IHCTD9 on 07.27.19 at 1:08 pm

#130 Keep as is on 07.27.19 at 7:57 am

Flop DELETED… whaaaaat?!

———

I think the flopster’s been having a rough go at it lately…

#162 Barb on 07.27.19 at 1:26 pm

No threading please.

Your intention isn’t to build a community, you offer us better lives. And we’re grateful.

#163 jess on 07.27.19 at 1:47 pm

as is… you control it
changing invites takeover by trolls who are addicted to attention /dark triad personality types

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a33yq8/trolling-addiction

“Trolls are turning social media and comment boards into a giant locker room in a teen movie, with towel-snapping racial epithets and misogyny.”
https://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/
——————-
warned by not heeded
Florida officials struggled to manage their cybersecurity and failed to heed multiple warnings as Russian hackers attacked electoral systems throughout the state and successfully breached two counties in 2016, according to newly unveiled details in a bipartisan Senate report.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/26/politics/florida-russia-hacking-warning/index.html
The Senate Intelligence Committee’s redacted chapter on election security, released Thursday, concluded that the Russian government “directed extensive activity against US election infrastructure” from 2014 through 2017 and that the Russian efforts “exploited the seams” between the federal authorities and states.
The report also found that all 50 states were likely targeted.

not a witch hunt not a hoax

—————
https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/03/china-smart-city-exposed/

#164 yvrmc on 07.27.19 at 2:37 pm

Re Flop deleted ….. Hey bud what did you do ?? Its a rarity when you get deleted… bad Flop , very bad Flop hahaha …

#165 Eric on 07.27.19 at 3:48 pm

Thread style please

#166 DON on 07.27.19 at 4:11 pm

#60 the Jaguar on 07.26.19 at 7:11 pm

@ Don # 30….maybe you are correct. I will begin a count for my own amusement, but even five seems to border on verbosity, though if the content supported it I wouldn’t bat an eyelash. I have my list of ‘reliables’, and Don’s name is on the list.
It would be interesting if on some singular calendar day, ( New Years Eve, for example) Garth posted a list of the ‘most memorable’ posts. Garth, we ( the blog dogs) could even submit our favourites to see if they would make the ‘cut’. ‘ Mafioso’ ( Fishman) and the ex-pat Pilot ( BillyBob) would be included in my list, but that slapdown of yours the other day was classic, Don.
There are a couple of other fringe posters who are so infrequent, but memorable..hhmm. Where is that guy who commented on the Montreal marketplace? ( building quality, ownership held in small circles, etc. ) That was a brilliant post. He/She has submerged. Come back to us, darling….
**************

Always a pleasure reading the Jaguar’s comments – old school common sense.

As per the comment limit…I think “Screwed Canadian Millennial” was one of the primary reasons.

And after 11 years I try not to resort to slapdowns…but sometimes the pickings are too easy and my self control is non existent.

Only deleted once, for mentioning a troubled columnist from the Vancouver Sun that pushes Garth’s buttons and I understand why.

#167 Westcoast Woman on 07.27.19 at 10:50 pm

Hey comment #159 Coastal Zapper – nice zing – a big leap from “older crowd” to “doesn’t like change”! How about the older and sometimes wiser may know of what we speak? Something to be said for not the first rodeo…see you on the north side of 50 and see what tune you’re singing…
F51BC and proud

#168 SJR on 07.28.19 at 11:46 am

Keep it the way it is now, good lord don’t make it any easier for these folks to ramble back and forth!!

#169 Ruane on 07.28.19 at 7:11 pm

Whatever you decide to do, Garth, I’ll still come back.

That said:
There may be something wrong with me, but I love scrolling through the comments the way they are. One day I may even log in at exactly the right time to make a “FIIIIRST!!” post, who knows. ;)

#170 Coastal Zapper on 07.29.19 at 3:37 am

#167 Westcoast Woman

57 in three weeks

but you’ll probably never see this cause its not threaded

and I’d tell you what tune I’m singing but I guarantee you its not played on CNILE 650