Less evil

This Thursday Ontario gets a new government. What a choice. It makes Trump-Clinton look good.

Over the weekend the Liberals blew themselves up as premier Kathleen Wynne admitted she couldn’t win. It was a stunning, gutsy, moronic move by a politician who should know it’s not all about her. In a few sentences she cut the legs out from under thousands of volunteers and 124 candidates. It will take a long time to get over that one.

Left standing is a shrill socialist and a Tory with the personality of a DeWalt cordless. The Dippers have delivered a strong, themed campaign supported by a fully-costed and exhaustive platform. Of course, they pose a major economic and financial threat, supported by an army of lefty moister bots who should Google ‘Bob Rae.’ The Cons never really recovered from losing their leader to a suspicious sex scandal, electing an inarticulate Trump wannabe who loses support with every verbalization and is campaigning on slogans. Quelle mess. The left-right divide has rarely been so deep, now that the Libs decided to suicide.

No wonder people are thinking of electing General Zod.

Disgruntled Torontonian Zoltan Hawryluck had a few drinks one night and decided that Zod should run. “General Zod is dedicated to the subjugation of the people of Ontario,” Zoltan says. “He is a ruthless dictator. In short, a better choice than Doug Ford.” As you might imagine, Zod lawn signs have been in hot demand.

So have posters for the NOTA party. In fact the None-Of-The-Above organization actually has candidates on Thursday’s ballot – 42 of them at last count. Its media-hungry leader is Greg Vezina, a guy I have known for more than three decades, during which time he has been consistently weird. Anyway, this is what NOTA stands for – a romantic agenda of bottom-up democracy in a world in which leadership politics dominates.

The NOTA Party campaigns for the 3Rs of Direct Democracy – Referendum, Recall and Real electoral and legislative Reforms that give voters control of politicians and parties. Candidates are accountable to their constituents and there are no central party policies or controls of elected MPPs beyond the binding Direct Democracy principles.

We want Recall Laws to apply to politicians, civil servants and judges all of whom who are virtually immune from real public accountability so that they pay for errors in their conduct the same way all others do with penalties including immediate termination with a loss of all severance pay, pensions or other benefits, for any dereliction of duty and other improper conduct.

None of the Above is part of a worldwide movement of new and independent parties and candidates campaigning for direct democracy and voter empowerment policies supported by voters and non-voters alike.

NOTA candidates will do slightly better than Zod, because they actually exist. But none will be elected. And it’s unlikely the Dippers will be, either. Yes, they lead the popular vote right now (37% to 35% at last count), but in our first-past-the-post system a party must have a consistent voting base across a great many ridings in order to elect enough members. The odds are Toronto will end up orange, for example, while great swaths of the hinterland go blue. The latest CBC polltracker showed 80%+ odds that Premier DeWalt will emerge.

But anything can happen. The Liberal collapse – if it occurs – could send voters scampering in unexpected directions. I’ve been in too many elections, as a candidate and player, to figure people out. They vote in their own self-interest, and are usually pissed.

If the NDP wins then two-thirds of Canada’s GDP will come from provinces run by socialists. That’s scary. Tax-and-spend policies will the norm in Ontario. Alberta and BC. If the Conservatives win, it’s big trouble for T2 a year before the next federal election, since Wynne was a key ally. Real estate stands to be seriously impacted either way. Andrea Horwath wants landlords spanked and renters supported, will bring in a BC-style ‘speculation’ tax and actually legislate rents lower. Doug Ford says he would remove government from the marketplace, reducing regulations to help homebuilders and get rid of the foreign buyers tax.

So, if you think bigger government, increased social spending, cheap childcare, free drugs, bigger deficits and more taxes are the answer, go Dipper. If you want deregulation, lower taxes, less government and higher testosterone levels, vote Con. The Libs, NOTA and Zod are there for comic relief. And we sure need it.

189 comments ↓

#1 MikeHarriswasntthatbadnow on 06.03.18 at 3:03 pm

Canadians have become to content with their status quo lifestyle to realize what they have created. We are all guilty of this political mess….

Good time for Central Banks to crank the interest rates after the elections and pop the bubble like they did in the early 90’s….

#2 baloney Sandwitch on 06.03.18 at 3:04 pm

Crazy that Wynn should surrender. Why was she even running. Gutless. I even voted lib in advance polls. what a waste.

#3 Victoria Real Estate Update on 06.03.18 at 3:13 pm

TRUE OR FALSE (searching for a grain of truth in the unsubstantiated claims of Vancouver Island agents)

“Victoria changed forever in 2015 when the world and the rest of Canada suddenly discovered our city. This guarantees that demand for local real estate will be stronger year after year.

2015 was also the year that Victoria changed permanently in another way when our city suddenly became flooded with an unlimited number of high-paying jobs. This permanently guarantees that locals will be able to buy properties responsibly with mortgages that are small compared to their massive incomes. Together these permanent changes will guarantee stronger demand for local real estate year after year.”

If Victoria really did “suddenly” undergo “major permanent changes in 2015” that “guarantee stronger demand for local real estate year after year” then it would show up in the Victoria R/E board’s numbers.

May detached home sales in Victoria:

2018: 346*
2017: 467
2016: 641
2015: 512
2014: 370
2013: 346
2012: 363
2011: 323
2010: 364
2009: 475
2008: 441
2007: 521
2006: 449
(Source: Victoria’s R/E board).

Those numbers don’t show that “Victoria changed forever in 2015” with an unlimited number of outside buyers “suddenly discovering Victoria” and an “unlimited number of high-paying jobs” suddenly and magically appearing in our city, “guaranteeing stronger demand for local real estate year after year” .

In fact, Victoria’s housing market just posted the second lowest sales total for detached homes in May for the data that is published by the local board.

May detached sales tanked year-over-year, falling- 26% below May 2017’s total.

And May detached sales crashed dramatically (- 46%) from May 2016’s total, which Victoria agents quickly declared to be our city’s “new normal” for May immediately after it happened.

And – 32% lower than in 2015.

#4 Mike on 06.03.18 at 3:20 pm

NDP is not an option, the massive debt needs to be reigned in, hurt a little now or a lot later.

#5 technical analysis?? on 06.03.18 at 3:20 pm

“Tax-and-spend policies will the norm in Ontario. ”

what exactly have the liberals done under Wynne and Mcguinty (who should be in jail as far as i’m concerned for breach of public trust) ??

these guys have been a disaster for Ontario the last 15 years. Ontario voters can swing to the right or left, who cares. both choices are garbage.

General Zod all the way!!

#6 Pete on 06.03.18 at 3:22 pm

If Ford wins we are in trouble. He will sell assets like Mike Harris did with 407 for pennies on the dollar. Cord will allow tolls remember this http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto-mayor-john-tory-road-tolls-1.3866390 (but was stopped by Wynne. With a CON in power bank on it). Ford may even add some his own on the 400 series highways. Ford will cut nurses and close hospitals just like Mike the CON Harris. Hydro Ford will do nothing and remember it was Mike Harris who deregulated hydro from not for profit to for profit. Ford is another Mike Harris but worse. No majority government regardless who wins

#7 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.03.18 at 3:29 pm

vote None of the Above

Kick the status quo in the teeth and let the Lobbyists know their millions in political cash was a fools errand.

Lobbying must end.
Its ruined democratic elections and made prostitutes out of most politicians…..

#8 Anyone buy Ford on 06.03.18 at 3:29 pm

I’ve suffer paying tens of thousands of dollars thanks to Mike Harris leasing the 407 for 99 years for pennies on the dollar. He also deregulated hydro which resulted in us all paying through the nose. Quebec pays nothing for hydro since its public owned. Goes to show you that public owned is more efficient and cheaper then a for profit business structure. A Conservative majority will mean more financial pain for all. Tory times are tough times. Always have and always will be.

#9 conan on 06.03.18 at 3:33 pm

The Libs might end up being King/ Queen maker.

Depends on voters thinking local or not, and how the seats work out.

The latest Trump eruption favors the NDP, more so, than the Cons.

#10 Blacksheep on 06.03.18 at 3:35 pm

“So, if you think bigger government, increased social spending, cheap childcare, free drugs, bigger deficits and more taxes are the answer, go Dipper. If you want deregulation, lower taxes, less government and higher testosterone levels, vote Con.”
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The population vote based on personality types:

1)The assertive goes conservative, cause they thrive in a free(er?) market and just want the system to ‘get out of their way’.

2)The passive goes NDP, cause they are unable to compete in a free market, so their hand goes out and they pick what ever candidate promises to extract the most resources from others.

Many hated, Christy Clarke.

I thought she was awesome and have never done better financially and in business, right down to her jiggly bits.

#11 waiting on the westcoast on 06.03.18 at 3:37 pm

Good luck to all of my friends on Ontario. Choose the buffoon and save yourselves a load of money over the next few years.

Don’t make the same mistake we made in BC. Remember, the Dippers only become crazy once they actually get power and finally get their paws on the tax code.

#12 Smartalox on 06.03.18 at 3:45 pm

Ontario Voters should remember:

Unless you’re voting in the leader’s riding, your vote will not elect (or prevent the election) of a leader of a specific party.

For this reason, for the best representation you can get, you should listen to the candidates that ARE running in your riding, and make your voting decision based on how competent you feel that each candidate is at representing your interests, NOT their party’s ideology.

Otherwise you may end up being represented by a back-bencher who’ll not be able to deliver for your riding. While it used to be that you could tell how a riding voted by the state of the pavement on its roads, in the modern big-party political landscape, MPPs no longer get benefits for their ridings simply be showing up.

#13 Smartalox on 06.03.18 at 3:54 pm

Ontario voters also get the opportunity to refuse their ballots, though again, this only describes a refusal to vote for ANY of the candidates in their specific riding. It’s a way of allowing voters to communicate their dissatisfaction with the candidates that are presented, and show that quorum has not been met.

Refused ballots are counted, unlike ‘spoiled’ ballots, blank ballots, or a refusal to go to the polling station and / or not voting altogether.

if you have to vote in Ontario, and if you really want to vote for None Of The Above, go to the polling station, present your voter info, and tell the electoral officer that you REFUSE YOUR BALLOT. You’ll be marked down as having refused, and you might even get to hear your choice discussed as an oddity by the talking heads on the news later that night. At least you’ll have had a visible impact!

In the unlikely event that refused ballots had a significant impact in a riding, the election might still go ahead, but voters in the riding in question would hold a by-election shortly thereafter.

#14 Rifles on 06.03.18 at 3:54 pm

“The left-right divide has rarely been so deep, now that the Libs decided to suicide.”

Looks more like a “Dumb-dumber divide” to me.

#15 Vanisler on 06.03.18 at 3:57 pm

#3

Realtors are absolutely shameless, they think they have mastered the art of spin but they only fool the fools. Everyone here is always adding to their HELOC for renovations and repairs, full grown adults co owning homes with their parents…just so their wives won’t leave them, gotta keep up with the Joneses. Glad to be renting in this overpriced housing market called Victoria.

#16 Stan Brooks on 06.03.18 at 4:04 pm

cuckoo, cuckoo…..

It does not matter who runs the joint.
The outcome is clear – more debt, higher taxes, higher prices, lower standard of living.

There is no economy left in Ontario. Period. This is why we run on housing market fumes for the last 15 years.

Now it is game over.

We are going to continue experiencing inflation of 8 % + yearly while CPI ‘shows’ sub 2 % and the f…ng idiots at BoC keep telling you everything is fine while ripping pensioners and savers/whoever idiot is left in the joint to support all the thieves.

Which part of ‘RUN’ along with your money did you not understand?

#17 Conservative Canadian Millenial on 06.03.18 at 4:07 pm

Premier Doug Ford should defund Planned Parenthood, Toronto Pride, University of Toronto WGIS, Ryerson University Student Union, York University WSI, University of Ottawa Student Union & the social justice Tribunals.
He should also enforce a law which bans welfare recipients from having more children.

Enforce a one child policy on welfare recipients. Cut Ontario Works by 50% and Ontario Disability by 50%. Repeal laws that make it a criminal offense to protest on public sidewalks near the vicinity of abortion clinics. Doug Ford we can do this!

#18 PBrasseur on 06.03.18 at 4:07 pm

Ford may indeed be a tool but at this point anything is better than the socialists.

#19 Yorkville Renter on 06.03.18 at 4:13 pm

I’ve never voted PC, but will on Thursday… my votes have been Green or Red my entire life, NEVER will I vote orange.

Whenever the orange people say “honest days work” they imply all other work is dishonest- they want free higher education for everyone, but only if you become a trade or public sector employee – don’t be a big success by using your brain!

I also loathe DoFo…

No where for a reasonable centrist to put their vote…

/stream of thoughts on our sophie’s choice…

#20 Stan Brooks on 06.03.18 at 4:13 pm

It is clear that all the bull..crap with normalization of rates, prices, ‘keep calm and keep slaving’, ‘things will be OK’ is just that: bullcrap.

No politicians, banker, no one can fix this mess.

Inflation, taxes, destruction of loonie and economy is coming, unstoppable.

Even the blind can see it.

Time to stock on popcorn and watch the show, it will be memorable.

#21 Pete on 06.03.18 at 4:20 pm

Blacksheep #11

Why is everyone crying about hydro rates? Mike Harris said by deregulating hydro from not for profit to for profit that it would be better. In Quebec it’s not for profit and they laugh paying nothing. The 407 went private and how is that going? Ford is a sell out and will cost everyone tens of thousands of dollars JUST LIKE Mike the CON Harris. LCBO will be privatized and then you idiot cons will all cry why is it so expensive? Ford only has a high school diploma. He is nothing but an uneducated silver spoon.

#22 Ace Goodheart on 06.03.18 at 4:28 pm

My prediction continues to be a conservative landslide.

Millennials as a group do not usually vote.

The old folks are all voting conservative in this election. Reason being they do not want their houses taxed out from under them and they don’t really like the idea of wealth taxation to pay for socialist spending.

I call Conservative landslide.

#23 ShawnG in TO on 06.03.18 at 4:29 pm

wynne is no fool. if we end up with a minority government, then the liberals will hold the balance of power. that is, more power in reality than the opposition party.

the worst possible outcome would be dipper minority holding up by liberals. spend spend spend to please all their friends.

big government, big union, big spending, big deficit is not the dipper party platform, it is their DNA. you should be very concerned.

#24 Mike on 06.03.18 at 4:30 pm

Anyone who even considers the NDP needs their head examined, the debt needs to be addressed, hurt a little now or hurt a lot later,

#25 Victoria Real Estate Update on 06.03.18 at 4:30 pm

#15 Vanisler

History has shown that it always pays off hugely to hold off from buying when prices are in a massive bubble. House prices always revert to the long-term mean.

The US correction, as one of history’s many examples, demonstrated that full price reversion to the long-term mean doesn’t take long to happen.

In San Francisco, for example, house prices fell -45% as prices reverted to the long-term mean. And that only took 3 years to happen.

It sounds like you won’t become a victim of Victoria’s housing bubble.

#26 Andrewski on 06.03.18 at 4:31 pm

Fortunately the pollsters have been sooo wrong for sooo long now. Old people vote, not those that the pollster’s poll, so IMO int’ll be Ford’s to lose.

#27 Stan Brooks on 06.03.18 at 4:35 pm

#21 Pete on 06.03.18 at 4:20 pm
Blacksheep #11

Why is everyone crying about hydro rates?

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I am not crying abut the hydro rates. I am enjoying them.

In fact I think they are waaaaaaaay too low.

Rich house owners should pay more. For electricity, property taxes, everything.

#28 Alberta Ed on 06.03.18 at 4:35 pm

Where is The Rhinoceros Party when you need it?

#29 cecil1 on 06.03.18 at 4:36 pm

The ‘Progressive’ dreams of the world he could create if only the lives and property of his fellows were at his disposal.

Sure, go ahead and vote NDP:

https://d33wjekvz3zs1a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Bill-Murry-on-Taxes.jpg

#30 Mac on 06.03.18 at 4:47 pm

When will people start to observe the fact that it doesn’t matter which party/leader is at the helm? The institution of government/central planning IS the problem. Good grief already. The pendulum keeps swinging back and forth back and forth as the institution of government digs a deeper debt hole and greater social division at the hands of immoral, self-serving, politicians – every single time.

So run. – Garth

#31 Ace Goodheart on 06.03.18 at 4:49 pm

The “dippers” as Garth likes to call them, will lose this election on the issue of wealth taxation.

Retired and semi retired older people make up the majority of voters in any Canadian election.

These people will usually vote Liberal unless something stops them.

Wynne has posted them off.

So they will vote NDP unless something stops them from doing that.

In this case, the NDP want to tax wealth rather than income. Older semi retired and retired types tend to have low incomes and large asset bases.

They will not vote for a government that promises to tax their wealth.

So they are going to vote Conservative and “grin and bear” the creature that is Dougie Ford.

Millennials usually don’t vote, or if they do, they’ll vote for something stupid like a fringe party with no chance of success.

#32 Ponzius Pilatus on 06.03.18 at 4:53 pm

Yesterday, Doug impressed us with his Italian language skills.
Re: Brexit.
Now let’s see how good his German is:
http://m.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/brexit-szenarien-grossbritannien-droht-knappheit-bei-medikamenten-und-nahrung-a-1210940.html

#33 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.03.18 at 4:56 pm

@#17 Conservative Millenial
“Enforce a one child policy on welfare recipients….”
++++++
Hmmm methinks you forgot Govt sterilization squads roaming the countryside grabbing unsuspecting men and forcing them to ….

https://www.google.ca/url?url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/14/the-malthusian-roots-of-indias-mass-sterilization-program/&rct=j&frm=1&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiKxqnMsLjbAhXpFjQIHQ5AAa8QFggUMAA&usg=AOvVaw3WEvH5wnzqANjIkdGSpAOd

#34 Darryl on 06.03.18 at 4:57 pm

ALL HAIL GENERAL ZOD!!!

#35 akashic record on 06.03.18 at 5:09 pm

I rather vote for a party with a questionable figurehead, but policies that make sense than the other way around.

#36 FOUR FINGERS WATSON on 06.03.18 at 5:15 pm

Smoky and I are starting our own political party. We are gonna call it the “Lets Party”. Stay tuned here, details to follow.

#37 Ford Prefect on 06.03.18 at 5:17 pm

VREU: thank you for remaining on topic and presenting fact based analysis. The information for May 2018 is very interesting – coming from a fellow Vancouver Islander appalled at the folly of both governments and the real estate obsessed public.

Think what could have been done with around $2 trillion had it been invested productively instead of into what is in the end nothing more that the ultimate consumer purchase, real estate.

#38 Bob Dog on 06.03.18 at 5:18 pm

We are at the point of late stage capitalism.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/

Time to end the obscene concentration of wealth Canada and the rest of the world is enduring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

The young will resolve the disaster their boomer parents have created.

If you think this society is a disaster you have not traveled much. – Garth

#39 NoName on 06.03.18 at 5:21 pm

all this time i’ve keep telling kids about mushmellow test and is wrong…

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/marshmallow-test/561779/?single_page=true

#40 Looney Baloney on 06.03.18 at 5:23 pm

What about James Sears? Me thinks he’ll be a better candidate than general Zod.

#41 cecil1 on 06.03.18 at 5:31 pm

This is what you can expect if you let the socialists steal your life and labour:

Soon to be Venezuela 2.0…..

West Coast & the Insane Socialistic Hunt for Taxes

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/west-coast-the-insane-socialistic-hunt-for-taxes/

#42 Who are these ppl? on 06.03.18 at 5:33 pm

#15
Re: people maxing our HELOCs and co signing with parents because their wives will leave them if the don’t have certain houses or upgrades?? What kind of s***ty relationship is that? I can imagine these people are real but at the same time I can’t. My husband and I are renting a condo and I cant imagine being that petty. If your relationship is that shallow find another one.
Regarding Ontario voter I have no idea-I’m not as conservative as most of the people on here but I live in BC. Good luck!

#43 I’m stupid on 06.03.18 at 5:33 pm

I’ve voted Conservative for over a decade. I’m struggling to vote for Ford, I have no idea what his plans are. Will he spend more, run deficits, cut spending who knows. That’s my problem with him, how do you hold someone accountable if they don’t promise anything? One thing is for sure, he can’t break any promises because he hasn’t made any.

#44 AK on 06.03.18 at 5:36 pm

“Over the weekend the Liberals blew themselves up as premier Kathleen Wynne admitted she couldn’t win.”
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It’s a good thing. A party with her leadership, does not deserve a status.

#45 Billy Jenwick on 06.03.18 at 5:36 pm

I think Wynne can still Win if Trudeau joins her on the campaign trail for the last few days.

#46 Doug in London on 06.03.18 at 5:39 pm

Yes, if the NDP get in, then we’ll get bigger government, increased social spending, cheap childcare, free drugs, bigger deficits and more taxes, no doubt about that. Then again, if the Con artists get in we’ll get tax breaks we can’t afford. Someone has to pay for these tax breaks, so what will that do to our already big deficit and debt? Somehow, the Dippers don’t seem all that bad.

Seriously? Where do you think the billions in extra NDP spending will come from? It certainly will not be covered by ‘the rich’ paying ‘a little more.’ That is a fiction, as T2 discovered. – Garth

#47 Darryl on 06.03.18 at 5:46 pm

#44 Billy Jenwick on 06.03.18 at 5:36 pm
I think Wynne can still Win if Trudeau joins her on the campaign trail for the last few days.
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You’re joking I assume .

Go with Zod my friend . May the Zod be with you .

#48 Willy H on 06.03.18 at 5:47 pm

Wynne had nothing to lose by saying what she did with regards to not becoming the next premier.

Yes, it’s unconventional.

Will is dismay her volunteers? Doubt it very much. Unless they are naive they knew full well they were in for a very tough slog and history was not going to be on their side in terms of a 4th mandate (humandate! LOL) for the Liberals in Ontario.

Going to be an interesting election night.

The Conservatives just cannot seem to get it together in Ontario. They have dithered for years while Liberal popularity inevitably declined. Their neo-populist platform too little too late. Is there no one with talent willing to lead this party in Ontario? Isn’t it time for a
conservative visible minority to take on the leadership of this party?

#49 Danny on 06.03.18 at 5:51 pm

Mike Harris was very clever……use the bank of Tax Payers to build the 407 highway and the sky Dome…..then sell them to the private sector. ,
Also force MegaCity….and most likely get Tories in the Mayors office elected.(except for a fluke ,well planned )

Then approve large car dependent huge suburban neighborhoods like Brampton and Markham and most likely elect Tories. Ford was told this big scheme…Therefore the 10 cent a litre gas discount as an introductory offer discount to vote for Ford. For how long is anyone’s guess.

So Garth as you said with First-past- the- post….plus the Mike Harris plants way back then………and Ford wins.

Even the ones on death doorstep will get out to vote for Ford…..just before they leave. Tribal politics is being well played by Ford…..talk like a parrot……Keep the issues plain and simple for the stupid people. Julius Caesar did it over 2,000 years ago.

#50 rental property math on 06.03.18 at 5:51 pm

Millennial here. Voted for the very first time. I certainly hope my peers DON’T do the same. Millennials are so far left that if you even mention voting for PC you’re some kind of barbarian. It’s getting scary. Come on Dougie, give me a nice 4 year bull run in RE so I can GTFO and get me a nice 70/30 portfolio!

#51 Doug in London on 06.03.18 at 5:56 pm

Seriously? Where do you think the billions in extra NDP spending will come from? It certainly will not be covered by ‘the rich’ paying ‘a little more.’ That is a fiction, as T2 discovered.
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As I asked previously, where’s the money for these generous tax breaks, promised by Doug Ford, going to come from?

Less spending, one would hope. – Garth

#52 Show Me The Money on 06.03.18 at 6:01 pm

The debt in Ontario is out of control with no end in sight. Something needs to be cut in order to save the province or she will fold. All these promises being made are bogus pandering for the vote.

#53 Victor V on 06.03.18 at 6:02 pm

Conrad Black: Why Doug Ford must be the next premier of Ontario

http://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-there-is-only-one-choice-for-ontario-doug-ford-must-be-the-next-premier

Ontario’s long-awaited election day is finally almost upon us. There is a unanimous view that the Liberals are finally going to be thrown out, bag and baggage, after four catastrophic terms, when the province was mortgaged to hare-brained alarm about climatology and electricity-generating facilities were shut down and solar energy and other nostrums subsidized as the province piled up bone-crushing deficits and manufacturers were effectively encouraged to pack up their cards and leave. Over 300,000 manufacturing jobs were lost in southwestern Ontario as electricity costs skyrocketed for all Ontario residents. Only the ineptitude of successive Progressive Conservative campaigns and a formidable Liberal display of electoral skullduggery and chicanery, some of it master-minded by Obama tactician David Axelrod, has kept the regime in office until now. One of the province’s former premiers, when I encountered him socially a couple of weeks ago, declined to predict the outcome but said “I know a tsunami when I see one.”

#54 Exurban on 06.03.18 at 6:04 pm

Amazing that Ford was so stupid as to actually say he would remove the foreign RE buyers’ tax. I’d favor minority government for that reason alone.

Ford’s late brother made many mistakes, but I suspect he would not have made that one. All three provincial party leaders appear to be living in bubble worlds. Disturbing, as the hipsters would say.

Tough election to predict, but what the hell … most likely outcome is a PC majority, about 75 to 80 seats, formed from big wins in rural areas and narrow wins in suburbs.

Is that good or bad? No idea. Things are not going well in Ontariowe.

#55 Victor V on 06.03.18 at 6:11 pm

#45 Billy Jenwick on 06.03.18 at 5:36 pm

I think Wynne can still Win if Trudeau joins her on the campaign trail for the last few days.

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Why would Superman go near Kryptonite?

#56 Fake News Again on 06.03.18 at 6:12 pm

I have been posting:

THERE IS NOBODY TO VOTE FOR IN CANADUHHHHH for a long time…..now you have proof.

#57 Victoria Real Estate Update on 06.03.18 at 6:15 pm

#37 Ford Perfect

I appreciate it.

I always laugh when I hear the one about how house prices in Canada can only go higher because Canadians are “house horny” or “real estate obsessed” and this makes it “different in Canada” because no other country in 200 years of housing bubble history has ever experienced “house horniness” before.

“House horniness” is common in all housing bubbles. It’s always the same story -horny morphs into flaccidness as house prices inevitably revert to the long-term mean.

#58 Bezengy on 06.03.18 at 6:27 pm

I’ll be voting for Ford, and I’m sure I’ll be regretting it for the next four years. I can’t believe this is the best leader we can come up with. Caroline, you didn’t try hard enough.

#59 DON on 06.03.18 at 6:28 pm

“Left standing is a shrill socialist and a Tory with the personality of a DeWalt cordless.”

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Time to enact – Crowded’s suggestion:

Voting check box for “None of the above” = Caretaker government to pay the bills and keep the lights on…until the parties provided vote able candidates.

#60 Nonplused on 06.03.18 at 6:30 pm

Isn’t politics fun?

Lucky for us the deep state is in control so the outcome is the same no matter who wins. Or is it the Illuminati? Or a secret society linked together through strange sex parties like that movie “Eyes Wide Shut”? I can never remember.

But either way it doesn’t matter, the debt has already gone parabolic and self re-enforcing. There is no way to stop the compounding of interest anymore, there simply isn’t enough GDP to do it. So whether NDP or Con all that changes is the date of the Debtocalypse. But as sure as Jesus it’s coming.

That’s the real reason for this flurry of new taxes, let’s see what have they either created or raised in just the last few years: Real estate speculation taxes, land transfer taxes, carbon taxes, income taxes, that crap they did to LLC’s, minimum wages (thereby making a lot more people pay taxes), tariffs on US products, you name it they raised it or are in the process of raising it. Why now do we need all these new taxes all of a sudden? Because all levels of government are broke and desperate. But nobody has the money to pay all these extra taxes so the economy is going to wither and die.

Oh well this isn’t going to be a quick process. It’ll be like going bankrupt: “Slowly at first, and then all at once.” So it’s probably best to ignore it all and go for a ride on your motorcycle. If you don’t have one it might be a good time to get one, or some other form of distraction. Lord knows right now we need a distraction.

Hey I think I just figured out why the Kardashians are so popular. Nobody can stomach the news.

#61 Trojan House on 06.03.18 at 6:31 pm

#8 Anyone buy Ford on 06.03.18 at 3:29 pm

Going public is cheaper? The last time I checked, Ontario’s debt was well over $300 billion and growing fast.

#62 EP on 06.03.18 at 6:39 pm

Would you think that with PCs at the helm it might counter-intuitively be bearish for housing if the money waiting in the sidelines or from selling of houses goes towards the cdn/other stocks in the expectation of better returns with a pro-biz guy?

#63 young & foolish on 06.03.18 at 6:39 pm

So many posts decrying the growing debt … but seriously, in what place is it shrinking?

#64 ImGonnaBeSick on 06.03.18 at 6:40 pm

I don’t know, I own a Dewalt cordless. Reliable, tough, always ready to work, saves me lots of money. Seems like an accurate description of Doug.

#65 DON on 06.03.18 at 6:45 pm

#9 conan on 06.03.18 at 3:33 pm
The Libs might end up being King/ Queen maker.

Depends on voters thinking local or not, and how the seats work out.

The latest Trump eruption favors the NDP, more so, than the Cons.
*************

Exactly what I am thinking…Minority Government. Unless Millennials are pissed AND voting… then shift…swoosh to Orange. Foreign Buyers Tax could be the difference now.

But then again at least General ZOD is honest.

#66 some guy on 06.03.18 at 6:53 pm

Doug Ford will most likely win and will be helping out his millionaire buddies as much as he can. I suspect he is going to open up the green belt and allow for more sprawl to appease his developer friends. Who knows what else he has in mind since he won’t ever reveal his true intentions publicly.

#67 Tactless on 06.03.18 at 6:54 pm

Vote NDP and pop the credit bubble. A healthy reset is akin to a much needed forest fire. Some won’t make it but the deserving rest will come out wealthier. In 2010, Canadians were deserving of praise for being super savers. Fast forward to 2018 and my have things changed. We are now super spenders. Hearing now that certain funds are being prepped for a second credit crisis. Not reassuring…

#68 FOUR FINGERS WATSON on 06.03.18 at 6:57 pm

————————————————————-
As I asked previously, where’s the money for these generous tax breaks, promised by Doug Ford, going to come from?

Less spending, one would hope. – Garth
……………………

Nope. You can’t get elected by taking stuff away. You have to promise free stuff. A nice suit and good hair is a must. Add a catchy name like Justin Trudeau or Gaylord Champion and you’re in.

#69 Reynolds531 on 06.03.18 at 6:57 pm

I’d like to see a discussion here about how to protect assets, rsps, tfsas etc. From both currency and taxation risk.

Non hedged ETFs? Coffee can? Hookers and blow?

#70 no strada mas on 06.03.18 at 7:01 pm

huge tsunami will wipe out the west coast within the next 2 weeks.

#71 Andrii on 06.03.18 at 7:03 pm

Sure it will be tough time when Ford comes , he has some how to clean the mess liberal made and keep people happy ,not easy and I suspect he doesn’t even realise how to do this, but for those who vote for NDP ,well, it will be easier , but in long run it will end like in Venezuela.

#72 Fake News Again on 06.03.18 at 7:03 pm

Doug in London on 06.03.18 at 5:39 pm
Yes, if the NDP get in, then we’ll get bigger government, increased social spending, cheap childcare, free drugs, bigger deficits and more taxes, no doubt about that. Then again, if the Con artists get in we’ll get tax breaks we can’t afford. Someone has to pay for these tax breaks, so what will that do to our already big deficit and debt? Somehow, the Dippers don’t seem all that bad.

Seriously? Where do you think the billions in extra NDP spending will come from? It certainly will not be covered by ‘the rich’ paying ‘a little more.’ That is a fiction, as T2 discovered. – Garth

______

I just can’t understand how people are too chicken shit to ever EVER talk about CUTTING the size of Govt. It would save BILLIONS.

#73 fancy_pants on 06.03.18 at 7:09 pm

It really doesn’t matter much long term anymore who is in the saddle. The horse is long out of the barn. Ontario is pooched just like the rest of Canada. Standard of living is on a long descent.

#74 Eco Capitalist on 06.03.18 at 7:11 pm

Stop voting for the lesser evil! Vote Cthulhu!

#75 Vision on 06.03.18 at 7:12 pm

Conrad Black: Why Doug Ford must be the next premier of Ontario
Ontario is a jurisdiction of serious discontent, seeking radical change. With its triad of party leaders, the choice is clear
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-there-is-only-one-choice-for-ontario-doug-ford-must-be-the-next-premier/

#76 The Real Mark (not the imposter) on 06.03.18 at 7:15 pm

“Think what could have been done with around $2 trillion had it been invested productively instead of into what is in the end nothing more that the ultimate consumer purchase, real estate.”

Well Canadians certainly do need shelter, and while there’s some obvious physical oversupply and hoarding that’s taking place in the Canadian RE market, we don’t have millions of empty homes as they do down south.

And for the past nearly 2 decades, there has been vigorous investment in exportable production in the form of expansion to the oil and gas sector. Due to all this investment, Canada punches well above its weight and will never have a meaningful problem with currency devaluation or domestic energy security.

The problem is, its less economically efficient to have bubbles in specific asset classes, rather than having the economy naturally allocating capital. Natural allocation of capital, rather than artificial allocation of capital by fiat has proven to be the most economically efficient system. A housing bubble may “feel good” for the moment, but it comes at a longer term cost to GDP. Especially with the relatively high unemployment experienced outside of the housing related industries over the past decade or two. CMHC’s policies, particularly the CMHC subprime mortgage insurance program effectively forcing a lot of capital into subprime housing finance that otherwise would have perhaps ended up being allocated at least partially elsewhere.

#77 AK on 06.03.18 at 7:28 pm

#46 Doug in London on 06.03.18 at 5:39 pm
“Yes, if the NDP get in, then we’ll get bigger government, increased social spending, cheap childcare, free drugs, bigger deficits and more taxes, no doubt about that. Then again, if the Con artists get in we’ll get tax breaks we can’t afford. Someone has to pay for these tax breaks, so what will that do to our already big deficit and debt? Somehow, the Dippers don’t seem all that bad.”
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May be you were not old enough in 1990 through 1995.

#78 Ex-Cowtown on 06.03.18 at 7:29 pm

#7 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.03.18 at 3:29 pm
vote None of the Above

Kick the status quo in the teeth and let the Lobbyists know their millions in political cash was a fools errand.

Lobbying must end.
Its ruined democratic elections and made prostitutes out of most politicians…..

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

100% agree. The place to start is to choke off all of the dark and corrupt US $$$ from our environmental and anti-pipeline lobbies. This bought and paid for protest crap would end tomorrow if that happened.

David Suzuki would be out of a job, but hey, sometimes collateral damage happens.

#79 Myra Andrews on 06.03.18 at 7:34 pm

Greater Vancouver Stats from realtor Paul Boenisch

June 1 New 224 Sold 105 TI: 11,817
(expired end-of month listings caused drop in inventory)

May 31 New 208 Sold 109 TI: 11,975
May 30 New 286 Sold 113 TI: 11,964
May 29 New 303 Sold 158 TI: 11,882
May 28 no post from Paul

May 25 New 210 Sold 123 TI: 11,697
May 24 New 231 Sold 128 TI: 11,676
May 23 New 328 Sold 144 TI: 11,613
May 22 New 477 Sold 143 TI: 11,496

May 18 New 226 Sold 119 TI 11,208
May 17 New 191 Sold 110 TI 11,161
May 16 New 235 Sold 147 TI 11,133
May 15 New 315 Sold 178 TI 11,127
May 14 New 302 Sold 124 TI 11,052

May 11 New 183 Sold 132 TI 10,935
May 10 New 229 Sold 126 TI 10,957
May 9 New 309 Sold 172 TI 10,914
May 8 New 318 Sold 117 TI 10,835
May 7 New 389 Sold 131 TI 10,697

May 4 New 191 Sold 110 TI 10,540
May 3 New 213 Sold 103 TI 10,503
May 2 New 268 Sold 146 TI 10,481
May 1 New 363 Sold 134 TI 10,420
Apr 30 New 375 Sold 163 TI 10,459

April 16-27 New 2453 Sold 1224 TI 10,347
April 3-13 New 2111 Sold 916 TI 9,727

Mar 19-29 New 1834 Sold 1072 TI 9,032
Mar 5-16 New 2248 Sold 1224 TI 8,743

The inventory at the end of February was 8,211

#80 MSM-Free Zone on 06.03.18 at 7:37 pm

In all my advanced years, I’ve never had a more difficult time deciding on a future ballot…..a ballot whose only purpose is to remove the current government who undeservingly won the last two ballots.

#81 joblo on 06.03.18 at 7:45 pm

“If the Conservatives win, it’s big trouble for T2 a year before the next federal election, ”

That’s good enough for me!

#82 Diego Daryle on 06.03.18 at 7:48 pm

I hope Ford wins because he would get along very well with Trump. Horvath wouldn’t.

#83 MSM-Free Zone on 06.03.18 at 7:54 pm

Not surprisingly, there will be two forthcoming Ontario elections.

The first is already scheduled for June 7th, followed by a second election in the near future when Drug Fraud’s minority government is brought down by a non-confidence vote.

By then, we’ll have witnessed the real Drug Fraud, along with his entourage of self-serving lobbyists who know a clueless, attention-starved, gullible, dumber-than-a-sack-of hammers patsy when they see one.

#84 Cristian on 06.03.18 at 7:57 pm

“If the NDP wins then two-thirds of Canada’s GDP will come from provinces run by socialists. That’s scary.”

Just for a while. After all, their voters should get a real-life taste of communist or socialist policies. I don’t think there’s any other way to convince them.
I used to have a colleague back in Montreal who had the portrait of Che Guevara on his laptop and was very vocal about the benefits of communism until I told him more about it, me being born and growing up in communism… So I say, let them have a taste of it. I guarantee they won’t like it for long.

#85 Leichendiener on 06.03.18 at 8:05 pm

On June 8th the sun will rise at 5:37AM, notwithstanding the deWalt.

#86 ian ryan on 06.03.18 at 8:07 pm

where’s the monster raving loonie party when you need them.

#87 Andrewt on 06.03.18 at 8:11 pm

Already voted Dipper in the advance poll, though the PCs will probably win.
I’m amenable to some conservative policies, at least those that used to be considered conservative.
But I have no confidence Ford and his gang will govern responsibly. It’ll be cronyism and fusterclucks for days, with little of the fiscal sense that was traditionally the hallmark of the PC brand.

#88 SoggyShorts on 06.03.18 at 8:18 pm

#17 Conservative Canadian Millenial on 06.03.18 at 4:07 pm
Premier Doug Ford should defund Planned Parenthood, Toronto Pride, University of Toronto WGIS, Ryerson University Student Union, York University WSI, University of Ottawa Student Union & the social justice Tribunals.
He should also enforce a law which bans welfare recipients from having more children.

Enforce a one child policy on welfare recipients. Cut Ontario Works by 50% and Ontario Disability by 50%. Repeal laws that make it a criminal offense to protest on public sidewalks near the vicinity of abortion clinics. Doug Ford we can do this!
*****************************
This is why I would never label myself conservative.
“The government shouldn’t tell people what to do”
“I should tell people what to do with their bodies”
How do you hold 2 beliefs like that at the same time?

#89 Russ on 06.03.18 at 8:19 pm

ImGonnaBeSick on 06.03.18 at 6:40 pm

I don’t know, I own a Dewalt cordless. Reliable, tough, always ready to work, saves me lots of money. Seems like an accurate description of Doug.
==========================

Okay, general agreement that he’s a tool, narrowed to a comparable DeWalt.

But what kind of tool is the best descriptor?

Impact driver? nah, too macho.
Drill? too simple or simple enough?
How about a hammer & sack o’ nails? No cord needed there.

A little help here Garth?

#90 Drill Baby Drill on 06.03.18 at 8:31 pm

Doug Ford for Prime Minister. “Oh you laugh” just wait one year then after 12 months of a full on trade war with the USA we will be begging for someone that has something in common with Trump.

#91 Yuus bin Haad on 06.03.18 at 8:31 pm

“fully-costed” is only a thing during elections (which is also no time to discuss serious issues … thank you Kim).

#92 Drill Baby Drill on 06.03.18 at 8:33 pm

#45 Billy Jenwick on 06.03.18 at 5:36 pm

I think Wynne can still Win if Trudeau joins her on the campaign trail for the last few days.

“Billy I do not want the drugs you are on”

#93 DON on 06.03.18 at 8:34 pm

#31 Ace Goodheart on 06.03.18 at 4:49 pm

The “dippers” as Garth likes to call them, will lose this election on the issue of wealth taxation.

Retired and semi retired older people make up the majority of voters in any Canadian election.

These people will usually vote Liberal unless something stops them.

Wynne has posted them off.

So they will vote NDP unless something stops them from doing that.

In this case, the NDP want to tax wealth rather than income. Older semi retired and retired types tend to have low incomes and large asset bases.

They will not vote for a government that promises to tax their wealth.

So they are going to vote Conservative and “grin and bear” the creature that is Dougie Ford.

Millennials usually don’t vote, or if they do, they’ll vote for something stupid like a fringe party with no chance of success.
****************

Or it could be that the old vote is dying off and the millenials are pissed and will be voting for affordable living. Shift happens – that it is even close in Ontario between the NDP and Conservatives is something to take note of.

#94 Ace Goodheart on 06.03.18 at 8:35 pm

RE: #82 Diego Daryle on 06.03.18 at 7:48 pm

“I hope Ford wins because he would get along very well with Trump. Horvath wouldn’t.”

Very true. Ford spends a lot of his time in Chicago, where Deco has an office:

https://decolabels.com/contact-us/

He’s equal part American and Canadian.

If anyone can get the Trumpster off our backs, it is Ford.

The two of them would be best buddies.

#95 Proof ? on 06.03.18 at 8:35 pm

Wynne “abdicated” so as to shove the leftist / socialist / communist voters to the NDP to maintain the miserable marxist momentum.

She took one for the socialist agenda – and a last narccissitic grab of the spotlight before the ignomy of a total defeat.

#96 Ace Goodheart on 06.03.18 at 8:39 pm

RE: #13 Smartalox:

“if you have to vote in Ontario, and if you really want to vote for None Of The Above, go to the polling station, present your voter info, and tell the electoral officer that you REFUSE YOUR BALLOT. You’ll be marked down as having refused, and you might even get to hear your choice discussed as an oddity by the talking heads on the news later that night. At least you’ll have had a visible impact!”

Yes, Millennials, go and do this. You will make a difference! You’ll show that you’re in charge, that no one bosses you around, and screw the system.

This, my friends, is why Ford will win. If the Mils do go out and vote, they are going to do crap like this. Waste their votes to make a point that no one cares about.

Go Millennials!

#97 For those about to flop... on 06.03.18 at 8:43 pm

Here is a list of the 32 football teams playing in the 2018 World Cup starting shortly.

We did it for the Euros a couple of years ago and we had some fun with it ,and you never no what’s gonna happen even if you get a crappy team.

Iceland surprised everyone last tournament.

On game day if your team was playing you were encouraged to post something related culturally or economically related to that country to try and keep it very loosely related to the blog.

I pre- filled in some of them based some basic information,maybe some bad information ,and some just for a laugh,don’t get offended ,it’s just another way to connect with people all over the world that visit this beast of a blog, and I will let you guys fight for the rest…

M43BC

Group A:

Russia, Garth Turner Host Nation

Uruguay,Waiting on the westcoast,

Egypt

Saudi Arabia,Shawn Allen,got sand in his ears.

Group B:

Portugal

Spain

Iran ,Washed Up Lawyer,what he did from the Fort Mac fires.

Morocco

Group C:

France,Ryan Lewenza.InfLewenza will enjoy spit roasting me.

Peru

Denmark

Australia,For those about to flop…,I come to this blog everyday ,so I obviously like getting my ass kicked.

Group D:

Argentina

Croatia,No Name ,home team

Iceland

Nigeria,Smoking Man,dunno ,just felt right.

Group E:

Brazil,Keith in Rio,home team

Switzerland, Doug Rowat,Robax stays pretty neutral.

Costa Rica

Serbia

Group F:

Germany,Common Sense,worked last time.

Mexico

Sweden,Nonplussed,puts things together well or frustrating to work out, depends on your like or dislike for IKEA products.

South Korea,Jaguar,they are the cats.

Group G:

Belgium ,Mark,full of chocolate.

England ,Ace Goodheart,sounds Engish enough.

Tunisia

Panama,Penny Henny,there is always something in his canal.

Group H:

Poland ,Dorothy Turner,thought I read somewhere on the blog about a connection,could be wrong.

Colombia,Stan Brooks…on some good drugs.

Senegal

Japan

#98 Mac on 06.03.18 at 8:43 pm

So run. – Garth

We did and loving it. Cost of living cut to less than half and doctors make house calls.

Then you have lost the right to comment. – Garth

#99 Chaddywack on 06.03.18 at 8:47 pm

I want Trudeau out, but I also don’t want foreign buyers of real estate.

Good thing I’m not a resident there and don’t have to make that choice!

#100 Free Dumb on 06.03.18 at 8:54 pm

#25 Smoking Man on 06.02.18 at 7:54 pm
@my nefews big fat Sikh wedding. Full report when I sobar up. Sikh nation.Guru’s and the most coolest loving people on the face of the earth. Did bastards know that the temples are open 24/7 food for anyone that is hungy.

If I get weak and can’t stand tall as an individual , I’m converting. These people rock….
=================

Its called socialism.

#101 Reality is stark on 06.03.18 at 9:01 pm

People who make poor decisions do not want to be held accountable for them.
They expect you to pay for their mistakes.
This is the new Ontario.
This is what’s known as “fairness”.
Expect your savings to get expropriated.
Venezuela is the new model for Canadian utopia.

#102 Ex-Cowtown on 06.03.18 at 9:07 pm

In a way, you can’t really blame the Americans for sending their dark and corrupt eco-lobbying dollars up to the True North. Trump has cast the money changers from the temple and Canada is the only place left for them to do their dirty work.

Too bad T2 is too gutless to ask why the hell Americans are allowed to meddle in our elections. We need a Special Counsel to look into the ties between the dark and corrupt US $$$ and our own political parties.

#103 Ustabe on 06.03.18 at 9:12 pm

I’m not an Ontario resident but I will be visiting and vacationing there this summer.

But I do have this to say in regards to the upcoming election.
I’d take idealistic stupidity over malevolent stupidity any day.

Ford, like Trump, simply can not comprehend that a deal can be good for both. In his world he wins or he loses, the opposite side is meaningless. Law is meaningless, Party is meaningless, Marriage is meaningless. I know this having dealt with him in a peripheral manner back a few decades ago.

Vote him in and there will be a lot of you on the opposite side, even some that believe themselves to be on his side…or that he is on yours.

#104 DougFordConsEqualBigDeficits on 06.03.18 at 9:20 pm

That last paragraph is quite misleading Garth. The Cons are projected to have an even bigger deficit than the NDP. If the deficit is a concern, then neither the Cons or NDP offer much relief. Still, Doug Ford’s policies leading to big deficits should absolutely be something voters consider.

#105 Ford on 06.03.18 at 9:21 pm

Tell me, if Ford wins the election will he chicken out, or do the parade march?

#106 After Commies on 06.03.18 at 9:25 pm

I prefer the DeWalt drill personality. I dislike the hauty personalities. Of course it was all about her. She is a hauty narcissist, as measured by her history with her husband and children, among other measures.

#107 MSM-Free Zone on 06.03.18 at 9:26 pm

#53 Victor V on 06.03.18 at 6:02 pm
Conrad Black: Why Doug Ford must be the next premier of Ontario
____________________________

Why is this convicted non-citizen felon still allowed entry into our country?

#108 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.03.18 at 9:31 pm

@#70 no strada mas
“huge tsunami will wipe out the west coast within the next 2 weeks.”
++++
Well, while you’re making accurate predictions….could you shake the chicken bones out on the table and let me know what the winning LottoMax numbers are so I can move outta “tsunami Central”?

#109 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.03.18 at 9:39 pm

@#106 MSM Free Zone
“Why is this convicted non-citizen felon still allowed entry into our country?”
+++++
Canadian born Lord Black?

Hundreds of millions of dollars in his bank account might have something to do with it……….

#110 Lost ...but not leased on 06.03.18 at 9:44 pm

General Zod?

Well Doug Ford does sorta look like Lex Luthor…maybe Auric Goldfinger?

Otherwise…Vote for General Mayhem and Corporal Punishment.

#111 Leo Trollstoy on 06.03.18 at 9:51 pm

ZOD FOR PREMIER!

#112 Victor V on 06.03.18 at 9:58 pm

Editorial: The Progressive Conservatives should form the next Ontario government

http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-the-progressive-conservatives-should-form-the-next-ontario-government

#113 Pete on 06.03.18 at 9:59 pm

We know Ford doesn’t have a post secondary education. Does he even have a high school diploma? We know he is an ex drug dealer who has no plan. Why would anyone vote for him?

#114 crossbordershopper on 06.03.18 at 10:00 pm

as rush limbaugh always says you cant compete againt santa claus.
santa claus gives gifts to anyone and everyone, presents for everyoone like the ndp
you see when your poor you know no nothing, nothing about nothing, you wake up in the morning and scratch your head and rub your belly.
taxes opportunities, openess are irrelevent concepts the majority of people want freeness period.
free drugs free health care etc, who cares if marginal taxes above 300k canadian goes to 55 percent man it could be 75 it doesnt matter little people dont pay taxes they collect governemnt services.
most people just want a place to stay and enough cash for a few trinkits in life, the rest is irrelevent.
i am always surprised of why the ndp never win since who doest like freeness sure someone else will pay for it, since your poor and uneducated and neer to succeed in life, all this freeness is great, if they day comes and the rich cant be taxed oh well, people live like peasants anyway regardless if they own a place, rent, or whatever. if the guy comes and takes the car away oh welll, i rode it for a while now i drive a piece of crap.
life of the little people are pretty simple. all this analysis of recession interst rates asset allocation bla bla bla are the talk of the smart educated and wealthy and last time i checked was a littlle over 250k people in canada who make over 300\k which is like 220 usd which is not very much at all. so honestly most canadians are poor and not really like it that way, they dont know any better
back to reality and its simple if you want to get ahead, go to america, if you want a coupon for the government cheese or weed, yes free governemnt weed is going to be in the pipeline, for all current medical patients. then stay here

#115 Drug Ford on 06.03.18 at 10:02 pm

‘Inarticulate Trump wannabee’?

My friends,

I know Garth loves me, all the people do. When I am premier, we will cut out sex education and add time to teach people like Garth how to express themselves with simpler language.

All my plans are costed and I will release those details very soon, Ford Nation!

#Hashish

#116 NDP Canada Wide on 06.03.18 at 10:13 pm

NDP! NDP! NDP!

Unless you want foreign buyers and high house prices back brought to you by Doug Ford.

#117 Yorkville Renter on 06.03.18 at 10:23 pm

#115 – DoFo can’t fix this market… the foreign buyers tax is meaningless and new home sales plunged 65% this year.

It’s done.

Over.

#118 Nonplused on 06.03.18 at 10:27 pm

#96 For those about to flop…

Wait, you traded me to Sweden????? Oh well Holland didn’t make it this year anyway. And the girls are really pretty.

#119 slick on 06.03.18 at 10:46 pm

if Ford wins, the lefties heads will explode! especially the press. Look at them in the US, still bellyaching after almost 2 years. Geesh, if they hate it so much, spend your energy building a decent candidate to run against Trump. God knows, Clinton was the worst possible person to run against Trump. Hate Trump all you want, but at least he has the balls to make unpopular decisions and try to push them through.

Ford made one promise about the Green Belt, then backed off a day later. No clear cut promises since. If he has enough integrity to not break promises, that is better than what we have had for the past 15 years.

#120 For those about to flop... on 06.03.18 at 10:52 pm

#117 Nonplused on 06.03.18 at 10:27 pm
#96 For those about to flop…

Wait, you traded me to Sweden????? Oh well Holland didn’t make it this year anyway. And the girls are really pretty.

//////////////////

Positive thinking Nonplused.

I will assign Crowdie Costa Rica ,because sometimes when I get up in the morning he has already banged out a couple of posts ,maybe with the assistance of some Java.

I guess Leo Trollstoy gets Tunisia ,just so he is in the same group as Mark as he loves to needle him…

M43BC

#121 Tony on 06.03.18 at 10:52 pm

Getting rid of the foreigners’ tax in the golden horseshoe will push home prices higher than in the greater Vancouver area and put Canada into an endless recession. Obviously Ford is devoid of any and all repercussions and should never get a single vote for this reason.

#122 Tony on 06.03.18 at 10:56 pm

Re: #115 NDP Canada Wide on 06.03.18 at 10:13 pm

You forgot the part about and Canada in an endless recession due to the sky high cost of living in the golden horseshoe thanks to one oversight by Ford.

#123 akashic record on 06.03.18 at 10:58 pm

#88 SoggyShorts on 06.03.18 at 8:18 pm

#17 Conservative Canadian Millenial on 06.03.18 at 4:07 pm
Premier Doug Ford should defund Planned Parenthood, Toronto Pride, University of Toronto WGIS, Ryerson University Student Union, York University WSI, University of Ottawa Student Union & the social justice Tribunals.
He should also enforce a law which bans welfare recipients from having more children.

Enforce a one child policy on welfare recipients. Cut Ontario Works by 50% and Ontario Disability by 50%. Repeal laws that make it a criminal offense to protest on public sidewalks near the vicinity of abortion clinics. Doug Ford we can do this!
*****************************
This is why I would never label myself conservative.
“The government shouldn’t tell people what to do”
“I should tell people what to do with their bodies”
How do you hold 2 beliefs like that at the same time?

—-

People can do with their body whatever they want to do, as long as they can also take financial responsibility for their decision.

You can do whatever you want for your body and expect the public to pay for it is an entirely different story.

#124 Doug in London on 06.03.18 at 11:28 pm

@AK, post #77:
I remember 1990 to 1995 quite well. Part of the reason the Ontario NDP ran up big deficits during that time was excessive spending, but it was also due to the fact they came into power during a recession. Will the NDP get in again with this election? I don’t know but if they do it will be because a lot of voters were turned off by Doug Ford. If the Cons chose a real leader like Christine Elliot they would easily win with a majority.

#125 Ponzius Pilatus on 06.03.18 at 11:31 pm

When 60% of Canadians seem to embrace the NDP, there’s something wrong with the status quo.
Or maybe they are all stupid and the 40% are right.

#126 Hiding On the Backstreets on 06.03.18 at 11:34 pm

@#26 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.02.18 at 7:55 pm

“Kathleen Wynne? Bubblehead?

Apparently you never suffered through a BC Liberal Christy Clark “presser” interview.
Vapid answers to softball questions handed to her by compliant Global interviewers….and when things got tough she’d smile and jiggle.”

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I never knew so much about BC politics, housing, economy, etc. until I started reading this blog. At one time a few years back I think there were 5 female Premiers out of the 10 provinces.
Christy Clark was the only one I wouldn’t put in the category of WNB. Especially in her younger days. Pretty fair looking. Don’t know about her corruption.
Would like to see her in real life.

And your next post about the “known unkowns…” – Rumsfeld.

#127 Smartalox on 06.03.18 at 11:47 pm

Ace Goodheart#95

It wasn’t Millennials that I had in mind when I brought up that bit about refusing ballots. I was inspired talking to my 80 year old father about his plans for voting in the election. He’s lived in Ontario most of his life, and as much as he’s been a Tory his entire adult life, he places the democratic principle ahead of any one party, and thinks Doug Ford is a cheap hustler who is not to be trusted any further than he can spit.

He doesn’t think he’ll be around for too many more elections, and thinks that it’d be gratifying to see his ballot stand apart and be counted in this election.

One man, one vote, one voice heard clear, maybe one last time.

#128 Ponzius Pilatus on 06.03.18 at 11:47 pm

#75 Vision on 06.03.18 at 7:12 pm
Conrad Black: Why Doug Ford must be the next premier of Ontario
Ontario is a jurisdiction of serious discontent, seeking radical change. With its triad of party leaders, the choice is clear
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-there-is-only-one-choice-for-ontario-doug-ford-must-be-the-next-premier/
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Quoting a disgraced criminal tells me that you have no moral values.
And: Stop reading the National Post.
To preserve the few brain cells that you have.

#129 When Will They Raise Rates? on 06.03.18 at 11:59 pm

Tough choice… I’m torn between Zod and NOTA…

Screw it I’m voting Libertarian again… But I am definitely getting my hands on that Zod sign.

#130 Smartalox on 06.04.18 at 12:05 am

That opinion piece by Lord Black of The Bridle Path is hilarious. A masterwork of inane bullshit, if nothing else.

But reading the word off the page just isn’t enough to do justice to the spirit of Black’s appeal.

I recommend that to truly understand the writer’s perspective one must consume two pints of gin, and read it aloud while sitting astride the hobby-horse in one’s personal Polo practice cage.

#131 SunShowers on 06.04.18 at 12:05 am

Here’s a cute little 4 panel webcomic that outlines the biggest difference between big and small governments. I think you’ll all enjoy it!

http://www.mrlovenstein.com/comic/885

#132 Reap it. on 06.04.18 at 12:14 am

Ontario is a mess. It’s debt is staggering. As big as many countries. It has little concept of personal liberty, or the constitutional rights of citizens. Wynne’s gov was shallow, full of lies, fiscally incompetent. Only a moron would now vote for Horwath, and get more of the same.

You deserve everything you’re getting, Ontario. Every last thing. And if you put the NDP in you will cripple yourself for the next 30 years.

#133 For those about to flop... on 06.04.18 at 12:22 am

I just realized why I thought Smoking Man -Nigeria, was a good fit for the World Cup.

Dodgy guy on the internet…

M43BC

#134 Bob Dog on 06.04.18 at 1:32 am

“If you think this society is a disaster you have not traveled much. – Garth“

I only need to travel 900 meters past 2 mil Condos to east Hastings to see the result of a pos government more interested in pandering to the greed of money laundering criminals rather than help of Canadians free themselves of products of pharmaceutical corporations that put profit above human life.

#135 Dolce Vita on 06.04.18 at 2:04 am

Reality Check (interested observer from afar):

Commenters here forget that Trudeau got elected on taxing the wealthy and giving that away to the “struggling” Middle Class.

It was declared on this Blog in 2015 that older folks would surely show up and defeat him.

This Blog clocked a much greater than 50% popular vote for the Conservatives (Garth’s online poll results would be enough to get anyone easily elected in Canada, even General ZOD).

Trudeau’s seats from ON:

80/121.

The converse of what this Blog and its Greater Fools declared.

#136 Smoking Man on 06.04.18 at 2:18 am

Back in SoCal. Good to be home. We voted earlier today.
Shooting the shit with the folks at the place. Looking like a slam dunk PC win in Burlington.

#137 Mike in Toronto on 06.04.18 at 4:48 am

” If you want deregulation, lower taxes, less government and higher testosterone levels, vote Con.”

How do you figure? 3.5B on a subway stop? A guy who’s idea of harbourfront development is a monorail? A “plan”, weeks late, which may as well be written on a napkin, “fully costed”, citing “amortized over the life of…” to hide unspecified DEBT. All written buy a bully who will make it very clear that your local representative has *no* voice.

He’ll balance the books through downloading to city hall, cutting servies and lying. Fabricating savings worked for him in Toronto.

He bypassed PC party policy and unilaterally appointed candidates in ridings. This is just a taste.

I’ll vote for my local hippie in the hope for a minority government.

The PCs could have nominated a damp rag and I would have voted for them. Ford? Why?

#138 Mike in Toronto on 06.04.18 at 4:53 am

#6 Pete

Wynne’s greatest failing is letting al the criticism stick to her. Hydro started with Harris and the McGuinty and Wynne governments dutifully, and unfortunately carried it through to its logical conclusion.

This may be the last government Ontario sees for a long time which doesn’t flip-flop every 4 years and undo all the work of their predecessors.

But hey, at least I don’t live in the 905. Those 407 tolls are insane.

#139 Proof ? on 06.04.18 at 5:11 am

Wynne hasn’t given up, just shifted strategy.

She’s hoping to win a few seats and using those to wield power over what she believes will be a small minority government. Just like the Green Party in BC does now.

It is attempting to snatch victory (of a sort) from the jaws of defeat – and it may work.

And we thought we’d be rid of her …

#140 Don on 06.04.18 at 5:47 am

The more the state plans the less the individual can.

#141 MF on 06.04.18 at 6:57 am

#134 Dolce Vita on 06.04.18 at 2:04 am

Slight correction. Trudeau was elected by the hate Harper crowd more than on the merits of his platform…and he only got 4/10 votes.

MF

#142 MF on 06.04.18 at 7:02 am

22 Ace Goodheart on 06.03.18 at 4:28 pm
My prediction continues to be a conservative landslide.

“Millennials as a group do not usually vote.”

I wouldn’t be so confident.

Just like stocks, past performance does not predict future returns.

We Millennials are getting older, an as we get older and start careers, politics start to matter.

This is the problem, and why there is a risk of the NDP actually having votes for the first time in decades.

MF

#143 MF on 06.04.18 at 7:10 am

“Of course, they pose a major economic and financial threat, supported by an army of lefty moister bots who should Google ‘Bob Rae.’”

-A good point.

The corollary is that the last housing bubble precipitated the previous NDP government….voted by boomers and gen x.

Good job to all who bought and flipped houses and condos for screwing up everything. Good job to the central banks for failed policy.

MF

#144 SimplyPut7 on 06.04.18 at 7:13 am

The conservatives scare me less than the NDP.

With the NDP and the speculation tax they have announced, they have shown their true colours and they will just tax more, come up with restrictive policies that don’t help people in the province improve their lives the same way the BC NDP are doing now.

Conservatives like to make cuts without any thought as to why they are making those cuts, but at least they are not obsessed with controlling every aspect of my life, as the NDP would do if elected.

I’m not worried about the foreign buyer’s tax going away in Ontario. The people of Ontario need to find out for themselves that local speculators, not foreign buyers caused the majority of the housing mess we have now.

The government should focus on increasing housing supply of affordable townhomes and detached homes and stop hoping condos will solve the housing crisis as most were bought by local and foreign speculators with no interest of renting them out. Instead of condos with high maintenance fees and elevators that fail monthly, they should have reputable companies build apartment buildings, with laundry in the units, open concept kitchens, and amenities similar to condos.

#145 MF on 06.04.18 at 7:20 am

#136 Mike in Toronto on 06.04.18 at 4:48 am

“The PCs could have nominated a damp rag and I would have voted for them. Ford? Why?”

-Agreed.

It was because they assumed they have the 905, and that by nominating Ford the name would resonate with 416 voters (where they struggle).

It was a 100% dumb move by some “analysts” in the PC party who miscalculated. So dumb.

Oh well. We still have to hold our noses and vote PC.

MF

#146 dr talc on 06.04.18 at 8:04 am

wynne’s ‘fair housing plan’ is unforgivable interference, and a typical Marxist perversion of the English language
She and her acolyte penguin MPPs ran a Marxist Dictatorship in Ontario. Good residence

http://www.mah.gov.on.ca/Page16630.aspx

#147 TurnerNation on 06.04.18 at 8:08 am

This is a mock election. For mock democracy. Even a mock candidate running. All for MOB Rule.

Your choices are the Ghost of Bob Rae, The Ghost of Mike Harris. The incombant drops out knowing it’s all a joke.

Same as it ever was: we will be further stripped of our private and public assets; mired deeper into all debts.
All elections are bankers elections??

#148 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.04.18 at 8:17 am

@#125 Hiding

I have a friend who ran into Clark a few months back. He’s the same as me.
Cant stand her for her politics but he said, “Stunning smile, absolutely million dollar.”
Unfortunately, that just about sums up her political depth.
A figurehead for the back room boys making the decisions, ” Read this piece of paper, dont ask questions and dont forget to smile…….”

#149 jess on 06.04.18 at 8:20 am

7 Conservative Canadian Millenial on 06.03.18 at 4:07 pm

what are you thoughts regarding this:

Step 1: Register your company in a place that keeps the names of the people who own it and run it secret.

There are lots of countries to choose from, ranging from places known for their secrecy like Switzerland and tropical islands like the British Virgin Islands and the Maldives, to places you’d be less likely to think of, such as the Netherlands.* To be extra safe, start a handful of companies with each one owning the previous one, and with the companies being based in as many different countries as possible. You now have a long, complex and secretive chain of ownership, distancing yourself from all your ill-gotten loot.

idiot step 2
Step 2: Make sure you look legit by having some of your companies in above-board sounding places.

If you’re concerned that it won’t look too good having a company registered in some sunny Caribbean island secrecy jurisdiction, don’t worry! There are two easy ways round this:

Start a company in the US state of Delaware: an American company sounds like it ought to be squeaky clean, but in fact, Delaware doesn’t publish any information on who’s behind its companies, nor does it collect any in the first place. This means that even the police find it difficult to find out who owns Delaware companies.
Or, you could go to another less dodgy-sounding place, like the UK. The UK tells everyone who owns British companies, but that’s OK because it’s very easy to get round this. Just make the owner of your UK company another company registered somewhere else, where they’re not so open with this information.

idiot step 3 smallStep 3: Give yourself some extra protection by finding some other people to be the owners and directors of your company.

To really make sure your name isn’t associated with your dodgy company, find some other people to be listed as its owners and directors. It’ll still be you who actually owns and runs the company; these‘nominees’ will only appear to be in charge. And what’s more, if anyone does ever come snooping around,they won’t be able to tell from the official records that these people aren’t the true owners and managers. It’s easy to find people to do this job – there are thousands of companies who specialise in providing people for this exact purpose. And it’s legal too!

idiot step 4
Step 4: Open your company direct with the corporate registry – they don’t do any checks on you!

There are two ways of starting a company: going direct to the corporate registry yourself (every country has one of these), or employing another company, called a ‘company service provider’to go to the registry for you. If you do the paperwork yourself,there won’t be any questions asked about who you are:the registry will just take whatever you say on trust. Alternatively, if you don’t want to do the paperwork yourself,there are thousands of company service providers that can do it for you. They’re meant to get some proof of who owns and directs the companies they’re forming, but in fact 40% of them don’t bother doing this, and if you offer them a bit of extra money,they’re even more willing to ‘forget’ to find out who you are. Plus, if you use a company service provider in the UK,then they aren’t even required to carry out any checks on you, as long as you only use them to set up your companies and nothing else.

idiot step 5
Step 5: Finally, open a bank account in the name of your new company and get spending!

Banks in places such as Latvia and Cyprus are said to ask very few questions. And once you’ve got your money into a Latvian bank, you can move it anywhere you like within the EU without any checks being carried out at all. Now you can get that mansion, private jet or diamond jewellery that you’ve been hankering after.

idiot step 6 hey presto
HEY PRESTO!

By following these simple steps you can hide your identity behind an anonymous company and no-one need know what you’re doing with ‘your’ money – you can hide the money you’ve made from selling drugs and running protection rackets, you can send money to those who need it for terrorist activities, you can earn millions yet pay next-to-zero tax, and if you’re a dictator of a poor country, you can steal so much money that the country will be kept poor for generations!
More seriously,

It shouldn’t be like this. Theworld’s corrupt politicians,mobsters,tax evaders and other criminals shouldn’t be ableuse companies tohide their identity and move their money around the world. Global Witness is calling for public registries of the real, ‘beneficial’ owners of all companies,trusts and foundations. It should be a matter of public record who owns and controls companies.

https://www.globalwitness.org/en-gb/campaigns/corruption-and-money-laundering/idiots-guide/

#150 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.04.18 at 8:26 am

@#119 Floppie

I’m good with Costa Rica but I had some Honduran coffee a few months ago….. it could wake the dead……

#151 Todd on 06.04.18 at 8:28 am

TREB stats are out.

2018 2017 % Chg.

Sales 7,834 10,066 -22.2%
New Listings 19,022 25,764 -26.2%
Current Listings 20,919 18,477 13.2%
Avg $ $805,320 $862,149 -6.6%
DOM 20 11 81.8%

#152 Capitalist on 06.04.18 at 8:38 am

The PCs are not on the right.

#153 jess on 06.04.18 at 8:40 am

swamp extensions?

The Hidden Hand of a Casino Company In Trump’s Contact with Vietnam

April 25, 2018

By Justin Elliott

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/trump-inc-podcast-hidden-hand-casino-company-trump-contact-vietnam

#154 crowdedelevatorfartz on 06.04.18 at 9:00 am

@#82 Don ( 06/03/18)
“In other new former BC Premier Christy Clark has been hired by a law firm as an “Advisor”. I wonder what she is advising on? like really?”
++++++
How to stay out of jail?
Alomst a year to the day from her election loss she gets a job with a legal firm specializing in Corporate Law.
“Her vast experience, blah, blah,blah…”
No legal training, no prior legal experience, nothing.

One wonders if her notariety was still too much for the usual obligatory “job placement” with any major company as a “director” or “Board Member”.
Optics people, optics.
Personally I expected SNC Lavalin to snap her up with all the BC Govt contracts handed their way over the past 10-15 years…..
Either way its a win win for Christy.
Six figure salary and legal advice just a short walk down the hall……..

#155 Oft deleted much maligned stock picker on 06.04.18 at 9:27 am

#38 Bob Dog..about Canada being a disaster…..it’s certainly falling while most other third world. Pantries are thriving. The Middle Class in SE Asia is growing exponentially while Canada’s shrinks. There is more personal freedoms and opportunities in Asia and people are much richer because of low taxes. People can afford children here….unlike Canada.

#156 Mike in Toronto on 06.04.18 at 9:38 am

#141 MF

I’m Gen X and I was too young to vote for Bob Rae.

GenX is an anti-generation anyway, marked by a baby recession.

#157 For those about to flop... on 06.04.18 at 9:49 am

Behemoths…

M43BC

“These are the Biggest Corporate Giants Over the Last Decade.

Disruption is the new buzzword in business as both big and small companies are worried about scrappy startups with better technology entering their marketplaces. Our new visualization highlights the top three U.S. companies, measured in terms of overall revenue, in the last decade. Disruption occurs at the highest levels of corporate America, but our visualization highlights just how much money is at stake.

We gathered our numbers from the annual Fortune 500 list, which Fortune refreshes every year. Numbers for each year reflect the previous year ending December 31. Before diving into an analysis of our visualization, let’s call out two underlying assumptions. First, we have not adjusted these figures for inflation. As years go by, inflation causes the value of a dollar to slowly weaken. We took this approach to preserve the rankings at the time each company posted its revenue figures, not in comparison to revenues today. Second, revenue gives you a great idea about the size of a business, but very little about profitability. A company can post record-breaking revenue numbers and still lose money, like what’s happening at Tesla right now.

All that being said, our graph raises several key insights both about the particular situations of these companies and the broader U.S. economy. Walmart has remained in the top spot nearly every single year over the past decade except two years. Today, Walmart’s revenue is more than twice as high as second-place Exxon Mobil, a gap that has consistently grown year after year. It would appear that nobody will be able to challenge the country’s largest employer for quite some time.

Another interesting trend is how oil companies like Chevron and Exxon Mobil continue to post outstanding revenue numbers, even as the price of oil has fluctuated. Our visualization suggests that these companies have developed business models that are mostly immune to market pressures. They can make tons of money and pay their investors consistent dividends, no matter what the economy is doing. They fell off the top three in 2016, but don’t count Exxon out in the years ahead.

Our visualization also reveals a shift in corporate America, namely Apple’s ascendance as one of the most valuable companies ever. Beginning in 2016 especially, the multinational tech company from Cupertino, CA started shattering revenue forecasts thanks in large part to thecontinued success of the iPhone. People are willing to shell out over a thousand dollars for a new phone, making Apple a luxury brand that delivers both a status symbol and a sleek user experience.

Berkshire Hathaway also made it into the top three companies, but through a very different route. Instead of continuously surpassing expectations in product development, CEO Warren Buffett simply invested in companies with solid business models, like Pilot Flying J (gas stations), Duracell (batteries), Heinz (condiments), and Prudential (insurance). Buffett also has his eyes set on disrupting the healthcare industry, which would only further increase these figures.

Nothing is permanent but change, especially in the business world where so much money is at stake. These companies generate hundreds of billions in revenue year after year, but the top three rankings now include companies that weren’t anywhere near the top in 2008. Walmart is clearly paying attention to these trends as executives explore new business models, including in ag science, drones, and logistics. Time will tell if these efforts pay off for the retail behemoth.”

https://howmuch.net/articles/top-3-companies-ranked-by-revenue

#158 Mike in Toronto on 06.04.18 at 9:50 am

#143 MF

I’m voting NDP. A minority goverment is the best I can hope for.

Hopfully Ford will go find a new hobby by then and the PCs will recover.

My local PC candidate will be ignored in a Ford goverment.

#159 Ubul on 06.04.18 at 9:57 am

#156 Mike in Toronto
My local PC candidate will be ignored in a Ford goverment.

But your local PC candidate will have a great voice in any form of NDP government? With this logical stretch you can be a perfect NDP supporter.

#160 Sue on 06.04.18 at 10:19 am

#156 Mike in Toronto on 06.04.18 at 9:50 am
#143 MF

I’m voting NDP. A minority goverment is the best I can hope for.

Hopfully Ford will go find a new hobby by then and the PCs will recover.

My local PC candidate will be ignored in a Ford goverment.

Haha sure, go right ahead, ask Alberta how that strategy worked out for them. You may have good intentions but be prepared to live with the consequences for 4 years.
Good luck Ontario your going to need it.

#161 dharma bum on 06.04.18 at 10:26 am

#34 Darryl

ALL HAIL GENERAL ZOD!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiq5tnzmLBM

#162 conan on 06.04.18 at 11:23 am

Hindsight is 20 20, but Wynne should of ” self cabinet shuffled” herself out of the leadership role about a year ago.

She broke the Cardinal rule of “Don’t be annoying,” other than that, she is good.

Now look at the mess that voters have to sort out.

I will be voting Red because my MPP is great. Hopefully, the Libs get enough seats to decide who runs Ontario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7dRf6e-JW4

#163 Ace Goodheart on 06.04.18 at 12:03 pm

Re: #140 MF

“This is the problem, and why there is a risk of the NDP actually having votes for the first time in decades.

MF”

There aren’t any good choices in this election anyway. That is why I am thinking, the young folks are either going to spoil their ballots, or vote for fringe parties that can’t win.

Horwarth and her NDP are a tax and spend disaster waiting to happen. Wealth taxes, super high income tax, punishing levies on businesses, fees, tax and more tax. The only people this will benefit are the politicians and their insiders. Everyone else stands to lose.

Fordsie on the other hand is a disaster of his own. He will likely be for the most part an “absentee” leader, as he works full time running Deco, which operates in two countries. He seems to prefer a US style system, with no social services at all and everything being fee based. And he has already shown that he will cozy up to industry, act in the best interests of the ultra rich and their corporations, and ignore everyone else.

The Liberals are acting in an unbelievable way. Are they a political party? Do they have a majority of the seats right now? So they are advertising “don’t vote for us, we know we are going to lose”????? This is nuts. How can a political leader concede the outcome of an election, and give up before the ballots are even counted? I mean, who in the world does that? Does she not even care? If she was going to turtle up and slink away, why does she wait till the week before the election to do so? Why not quit two months ago, when a replacement could have been found, and we could have been back in the game?

I’ve been a Liberal all my life and I tell you, right now I am fuming mad. That idiot Kathleen just sewered my party, gave up, and walked away, a week before an election that will change the course of history in Ontario. You have no idea how angry I am with her right now. She should have quit two months ago, we could have found a replacement for her, and we would be running a strong campaign and probably would be back in the running for another Liberal majority. I am so incredibly angry with her right now.

As it is, I probably have to vote conservative for the first time in my life, voting for a man who I cannot personally stand, whose values and beliefs go against everything I believe in, just to save Ontario from getting destroyed by a left wing tax and spend party that will put us further into debt and tax our wealth and assets to pay for special interest social projects.

Not happy here. Not happy at all. Kathleen, why did you do this to us?

#164 SoggyShorts on 06.04.18 at 12:14 pm

#122 akashic record on 06.03.18 at 10:58 pm
#88 SoggyShorts on 06.03.18 at 8:18 pm

#17 Conservative Canadian Millenial on 06.03.18 at

People can do with their body whatever they want to do, as long as they can also take financial responsibility for their decision.

You can do whatever you want for your body and expect the public to pay for it is an entirely different story.
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This makes sense at first glance, but where do we draw the line? Why is no one protesting outside skate parks? I’m sure skaters use the ER more than non-skaters, so should we object to paying for their healthcare? Drivers get in more accidents with serious injuries than people who take the bus, so should we protest at car dealerships? Let’s not pretend that protesting planned parenthood is about the money.

#165 Windsurfer on 06.04.18 at 12:29 pm

Garth – I don’t consider my Liberal vote to be wasted. Wynne’s admission on Saturday probably gained the Liberals a handful of seats which they might have otherwise lost.

Though she should have resigned a year ago, she made a good strategic move to guarantee a minority government.

I can see the comments coming now about what I just said but hey, this is what it takes to make a market.

#166 Mark Baum on 06.04.18 at 12:35 pm

Is it possible repealing the foreign buyers’ tax and likely having Pro Homebuilder policies (assuming Doug Ford/PC win), will cause at least a slight boost/positive sentiment change for GTA housing?

#167 I'm A Believer on 06.04.18 at 12:49 pm

#20 Stan Brooks When I was young I believed that the good would always come to all, things were rosy. Now I’m an older guy and have run a biz in Ontario for 30 years. We keep being told about ‘the future’. Well where it is? Who’s future? We’re getting too old for this crap. How about a government which can move fast and prepare Ontario/Canada for the digital world; lifestyle, business etc. None are talking about this. It’s huge and it’s here. We are not even in the game. I think a huge slap in the face is coming for many Ontario folks. You can’t run a fake economy on real estate and debt forever. There never was nor will be a free lunch.

#168 NoName on 06.04.18 at 1:04 pm

Today I learned

WTO have judges and they are down to few left, in order to appoint new one 100% of members have to agree on candidate to be appreciated as a judge.

As it stands now one country is categorically opposing to every new candidate, if he stays 2 terms, in a few years WTO will be out of judges.

I guess there is method for his madness.

#169 Yvrmc on 06.04.18 at 1:08 pm

#133 Bob Dog , since I worked in and around that area of town for over 30years I can tell you the government in power never changed jack shit down there … misery loves company and always finds each other in the DTES…. Bennett’s WAC and Bill , Clarke’s , Glen and Christy, Barrett whomever , makes not a whit of difference…. so blaming Christy or Horgan for the shit hole that it is, is less than fair it’s just out right stupid ….

#170 maxx on 06.04.18 at 1:12 pm

#23 ShawnG in TO on 06.03.18 at 4:29 pm

If the Dippers get in, the big Owe’s finances are pretty well roasty-toastied. So much lefty spending appears to be the result failed experimentation.

Winding trails of half-baked ideas that are eventually abandoned by the wayside, along with millions, nay, billions of wasted taxpayer dollars.

Hmmm…..how about home delivery of cannabis orders by pretty little orange rotary wings?

#171 macduff on 06.04.18 at 1:24 pm

As someone in my late 50s, I realize now that it is a great time to leave Canada. Rampant ageism, a political climate that seems to be resigned to a lower Canadian standard of living, and higher taxes, tell me that I will be a successful expat in a country that doesn’t appear to be on the same trajectory. It’s ridiculous that it costs (on average) $400k for a home in Canada; all I can see is that reversion to the mean can’t happen soon enough for those who stay in this country. Don’t forget to turn off the lights when you leave.

#172 Doughberman on 06.04.18 at 1:27 pm

It doesn’t matter who gets in. Ontario is pooched.

#173 James on 06.04.18 at 1:27 pm

#135 Smoking Man on 06.04.18 at 2:18 am

Back in SoCal. Good to be home. We voted earlier today.
Shooting the shit with the folks at the place. Looking like a slam dunk PC win in Burlington.
_____________________________________________
Thanks Smoking Man when I went out on my front porch this morning I thought the air was fresher!
Enjoy your smog :)

#174 IHCTD9 on 06.04.18 at 1:58 pm

I was just talking to a gen X business owner who has voted nothing but Liberal since the late 90’s. He’s going to don a gas mask and vote PC.

The cost of doing business in Ontario has risen to a level where his political ideology has finally taken a back seat to more real world, practical concerns. He’s now officially worried about the future of his business. The priority for him now, is electing anyone who appears to give a rip about the welfare of businesses in this Province. The ideological stuff can wait.

This is what I hope to see more of, and exactly why I’m voting NDP.

That would be **PAIN** – and lot’s of it. Ontario needs a political inquisition, only the guillotines here will be taxes/regulation/red tape. Heads will roll to the fiscal right – and then so will the politicians.

From there, we might soon have a line up worth voting for…

#175 Looney Baloney on 06.04.18 at 1:59 pm

I’ll see your Zod, and raise you Vader.

https://imgur.com/a/nMYMWPG

#176 jess on 06.04.18 at 2:02 pm

“You can’t run a fake economy on real estate and debt forever. ”

go figure : fake news nothing happens to you tell the truth e.g. whistleblower and you are smeared and called the liar ?

call out the fake data and you get prosecuted?

Andreas Georgiou fixed the country’s fake stats, now he faces criminal charges.

Andreas Georgiou
https://www.politico.eu/list/politico-28-class-of-2017-ranking/andreas-georgiou/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-30/greece-s-least-wanted-man-lives-in-maryland


the world’s largest community of statisticians and data scientists support Andreas Georgiou
ALEXANDRIA, Va.(January
29, 2018) –The American Statistical Association (ASA)

http://www.amstat.org/asa/files/pdfs/press releases/2018-Sign_on_Letter_Andreas_Georgiou.pdf

#177 Brett in Calgary on 06.04.18 at 2:05 pm

There seems to be an up-tick in the number of home fires in Calgary this spring. Coincidence, or insurance?

#178 Jack on 06.04.18 at 3:03 pm

Thankfully the majority of the NDP supporters are too lazy to get out and vote. I can hear them now: “why can’t we just vote online”, “we should get paid for our time and transportation to get to the polls”, “the NDP are in the lead in the polls so i’ll just sleep in”, “I have a WOW fight scheduled so can’t make it” …

#179 Oakville Rocks! on 06.04.18 at 3:15 pm

I think Wynne thinks she is Hari Seldon seeing the collapse of her empire and trying to minimize the time spent in the dark ages before the rise of another Liberal Empire.

Voting Blue in spite of FORD with the hope that Elliott, Fedeli, Mulroney and the many other talented people in the party can bring back accountable government that deals with the debt. Really hope there is a caucus revolt and FORD is sidelined.

This is a great read, covers many of the things Garth bangs on about and it is thoughtfully written and presented. http://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/the-psychology-of-money/
as found through a link at the G&M this morning.

#180 Entrepreneur on 06.04.18 at 3:19 pm

Thumbs up #165 I’m A Believer…I was a believer too, believing that small businesses would be the one of the main issues of politics but not even mentioned.

Small businesses are very important for the community and province. Without this we have what we have a “flipping, mega housing business.” And what happened to all those small businesses, closed their doors.

After having the Liberals here for 16 years and ignored I will never vote for a Liberal. Conservatives are basically the same as Liberal as not much opposition from them.

I want my community back to see the youth to be able to have dreams and build from there.

#181 You Dirty Conservatives on 06.04.18 at 3:46 pm

You dirty CONs talk about Bob Rae who cost me nothing. Mike Harris has cost me tens of thousands of dollars . He has screwed over GENERATIONS by selling the 407 for pennies on the dollar. That will affect the people of Ontario for the next 80 years paying highway robbery tolls. Also thanks to Mike The Con Harris he deregulated hydro from not for profit to for profit. Hydro rates have gone up EVERY YEAR since. The Liberals were able to win so often because people could remember how terrible a conservative government will be. Ford will sell off assets like LCBO while running up debt. He will shut down hospitals just like Mike. He will lay off teachers and nurses. Guess what else. Toll on 400 series highways. Get ready for financial pain for years to come if Ford wins.

#182 James on 06.04.18 at 3:54 pm

#177 Oakville Rocks! on 06.04.18 at 3:15 pm

I think Wynne thinks she is Hari Seldon seeing the collapse of her empire and trying to minimize the time spent in the dark ages before the rise of another Liberal Empire.
Voting Blue in spite of FORD with the hope that Elliott, Fedeli, Mulroney and the many other talented people in the party can bring back accountable government that deals with the debt. Really hope there is a caucus revolt and FORD is sidelined.

This is a great read, covers many of the things Garth bangs on about and it is thoughtfully written and presented. http://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/the-psychology-of-money/
as found through a link at the G&M this morning.
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One could only hope, Elliot was the more prudent choice. You are correct elect Ford and the conservatives and it is only a matter of time before he trips over his own shoelaces and is replaced by a real political force.

#183 Honey Dripper on 06.04.18 at 4:04 pm

New Poll: Should I change my name everytime I post? like ‘You Dirty Conservatives?’

#184 Ford Had No Comment on 06.04.18 at 4:08 pm

The Ford campaign headquarters has been swamped with calls for him to debate General ZOD at an unknown location. Ford was confronted by this all, and turned pale while walking quickly away with no comment.

#185 Calgary Rip Off on 06.04.18 at 4:08 pm

#175 Brett in Calgary

If its insurance fraud at least the people aren’t devastated mentally. The stupid zoning in Calgary is problematic: If your house goes, someone elses goes. Really really crappy. All around housing in Calgary is insane. Still houses are for sale at around a median of $500K, overpriced by $300K and not changing anytime soon.

#186 Dissident on 06.04.18 at 4:22 pm

Haha – DeWalt.

Also, fresh off the press… IMF (international monetary fund) is officially concerned for Canada. Thanks partly to housing and Trump’s impending trade war, among other things…seems inflation is the name of the game…

https://www.wsj.com/articles/canada-growth-at-risk-due-to-heightened-trade-anxiety-imf-1528131600

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-imf-flags-housing-competitiveness-as-risks-to-canadas-economy-2/

http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/imf-canadian-economy-will-still-grow-in-2018-just-a-little-less

#187 akashic record on 06.04.18 at 6:26 pm

#162 SoggyShorts on 06.04.18 at 12:14 pm

#122 akashic record on 06.03.18 at 10:58 pm
#88 SoggyShorts on 06.03.18 at 8:18 pm

#17 Conservative Canadian Millenial on 06.03.18 at

People can do with their body whatever they want to do, as long as they can also take financial responsibility for their decision.

You can do whatever you want for your body and expect the public to pay for it is an entirely different story.
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This makes sense at first glance, but where do we draw the line? Why is no one protesting outside skate parks? I’m sure skaters use the ER more than non-skaters, so should we object to paying for their healthcare? Drivers get in more accidents with serious injuries than people who take the bus, so should we protest at car dealerships? Let’s not pretend that protesting planned parenthood is about the money.

You had a long laundry list – now you added skaters.

I was referring to be a parent by bringing to life only as many babies as you can take care of financially, not to use kids as a source of income from taxpayers.

Also, plan parenthood by avoiding destroying souls, instead of planning to mitigate carelessness.

#188 Mike in Toronto on 06.04.18 at 6:29 pm

#158 Sue

Ford’s a dud alright. We’re doomed with any majority government situation.

My local PC candidate was a hand picked seat-filler from Ford’s decree. They’re not going to represent anyone but the party line, and the party line has been hijacked by a populist with a wishy washy ‘new math, better than the old math’ platform.

#189 DJIM on 06.05.18 at 9:39 am

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