Milestones

The day’s news is below. First, let’s talk about what really matters to humanity. This blog.

I admit it. The site was born almost a decade ago when a new book needed flogging (people used to read wads of paper covered with words). In the wake of the American housing mess, I worried we were on the same path. And we were. Still are. Similar outcome.

Over the years, GreaterFool evolved, straying into economics, personal finance, taxation, investment assets and, naturally, dogs. Then came hormones, moisters, house lust, wrinklies, [email protected], thirsty underwear, FOMO and so much more. Now (says Google Analytics) the site is visited 7 million times a year.

As regular addicts know, I’ve also allowed my two fancy portfolio manager buddies, Doug & Ryan, to write a post on alternating Saturdays, so they can still have plenty of time to polish their Porsches and trophy wives. And all along the way one thing has been consistent – roughly 1% of the daily readers leave comments.

So yesterday we passed a milestone, as the 500,000th approved comment was published (from some dude named ‘paulo’ in Peterborough). Illustrating that I have no life, every one of those comments was moderated by hand. Some had colourful language tamed. Others required a comment. And hundreds were deleted, trashed or put into a special spam file I am assembling for the authorities. As Dorothy and Bandit can attest, this whole process may have involved scotch, hurled epithets and fast motorcycle rides to recover.

Days ago I mentioned a recent tidal wave of deplorable comments aimed largely at immigrants, natives, Chinese people, lefties and 1%ers. Me, as well. Open attempts to keep prejudice, racism, xenophobia and haters off this blog earned me a death threat or two. That admission brought on a whole 24-hours of sucking-up comments which puffed my ego, making me completely forget about being garroted.

“How about assign people to pre-filter for you? I’d do a day a week or every two weeks.  Maybe that’s weird or maybe it give you an idea. But it is oh so wearing.  If you had a break from the filth and just see only the good or at least neutral. I see how it affects the people around me who have to receive crap and they don’t see it as much as you.” — Kevin

It also brought offers (like the one above) from readers I’ve never met to vet comments, provide bodyguard services, or sue the shorts off the weenies who made such threats. Additionally, it raised the question of whether this blog is doing things correctly. Should comments be allowed only from people who register, or would that stifle free speech? Should there be comments at all? Should they be better organized so people can respond directly to others? Should filters be installed to automatically weed out weasel comments containing objectionable words or phrases? Would Smoking Man OD as a result? Or, is this blog okay the way it is, and I just need more alcohol?

Given there are now over half million comments posted, seems like a good time to reassess. If you have an opinion, let’s hear it.

          

Well, the deathwatch continues. Days ago we told you August sales in the GTA could end up being 50% less than the same month last year, according to realtors now kissing their Audis so long. Mid-month numbers (internal) from the real estate board show that purchases were down 36% up to yesterday, and that listings have shrunk materially (down 10%) as dismayed sellers abandon the market.

No wonder. Prices have just entered bear territory – marked by a 20% decline. What cost $920,800 in April is now fetching $731,600 across this vast territory of six million souls – 5.996 million of whom will not be buying a house this month.

So has the bubble burst?

Of course. That’s obvious. And it won’t be reflating after Labour Day. Nor is Vancouver spared, where condo sales have powered ahead, move-up buyers have disappeared, and the detached market is in seriously bad shape. All the poohbahs populating the mainstream media are praying this is a soft landing and the market will unwind in an orderly fashion. But history suggests otherwise. Bubbles almost always end in a mushroom cloud, not a sprinkle of regret.

Anyway, speculation is idle. The autumn is a complete unknown. The central bank will probably hike again. Mortgage rates will likely rise. The feds will drop the tax hammer on small businesses. Trump will edge closer to self-destruction. And you can count on that stressful new stress test at the bank.

Says a veteran realtor: “If you bought anytime since last Labour Day, you are probably worth less than you paid. That is no small number of people when you consider how busy the previous year was. The closer to April 30, of 2017 that you purchased, the deeper you are in the hole.”

No soft landing for you.

 

317 comments ↓

#1 Alex S on 08.16.17 at 4:58 pm

I can donate /r/GreaterFool subreddit to you. People will be able to use mobile clients, you will be able to use sophisticated moderation tools such as auto-moderator: https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoModerator/

#2 Big English on 08.16.17 at 5:00 pm

Leaving comments the way they are is an option, sometime I read them , sometimes I dont, sometimes I leave a comment, most time I dont.

I would register if it was required, as I dont feel the need to blame others or post negative comments. This may be a challenge for a small minority. I dont believe it would have to remove anominity from the blog, only from Garth et al.

As always a good read, please continue, it the tonic for my gin.

#3 Lost in Space on 08.16.17 at 5:01 pm

Loads of junk but some really good comments and insights, so please either get FB comment plugin or disqus so we can follow and reply to comments

#4 Tbone on 08.16.17 at 5:06 pm

First ?
Garth, I have been following you since the 90,s when you have a column
In that little paper .
You gave me direction with mutual funds and I expanded my portfolio
From there .
I made money on real estate big time ( bought rentals in 91 and sold last year )

Cheers !

#5 Registration Won't Save You on 08.16.17 at 5:06 pm

Garth, I run an online business. We get jerks causing problems all the time. We’ve gone from requiring an email, to requiring a email + credit card, to requiring an email + credit card + validated phone number.

Do you think this has deterred the jerks? hell no!

They will find a way if they want to. And simple email registration system isn’t going to save you.

The best you can do is ban based on IP address, but even this isn’t a for sure thing. My mobile phone changes IP address several times a day.

#6 The Technical Analyst, CSTA, CPD on 08.16.17 at 5:07 pm

There are a few good commenters here, but mostly, it’s a comment cesspool that brings down the quality of the blog.

Kill the comment section.

Loads of junk. No value added.

#7 Sidelined Buyer on 08.16.17 at 5:08 pm

My suggestion would be to give moderators a shot, which would give you more time to rest, think, and write. This makes you more valuable to everybody around you, including your readers.

Not sure it’s necessary to jump into registered commentary, but it may become necessary if overly persistent trolls keep moderators too busy due to the low barrier of entry.

#8 isuckless on 08.16.17 at 5:08 pm

I appreciate what you do when moderating the comments. It is your space (home if you wish) and you have absolute right to “police” what is posted here.
Freedom of speech is priceless and should be defended (from both alt- sides) but you are paying for this site and you control it.
If you can keep it in the current form it would be great. Or if you don’t it is yours to change. :)

#9 calgaryPhantom on 08.16.17 at 5:09 pm

follow the reddit model.

upvotes climb up the ladder and downvotes fade away into darkness.

also, register to comment. So you can shame us accurately ( with a pic )

#10 LJ on 08.16.17 at 5:10 pm

The comments section is welcome. There are often insightful ones sprinkled amongst the chaff.

And, it’s good to hear from the “pumper” side once in a while, however misguided they are. Gives one faith that there are still Greater Fools about.

#11 the ryguy on 08.16.17 at 5:12 pm

$1/month subscription fee, or go nuts and make it $5/year for those that buy in bulk.

A) You’ll make some dough, which to be fair you have more than earned.

B) Any poster will have a CC/bank account attached for the tards that make threats. Chances are they wont subscribe..good, win/win.

C) You can even accept cryptos, why not? Lol.

Great work as always Garth.

BTW – The house Ive been renting for almost 2.5 years just had photos taken today. My landlords (and to be fair my friends) are the geniuses that own 3 properties but live cheque to cheque, and barely at that. They are hoping that by selling this house they can pay off their:

A) Withdrawn RRSP’s and associated costs, which include penalties and interest from CRA.
B) Property taxes from the past 2 years
C) Credit cards
D) A couple of small loans from one of their pathetic renters..me.

We have spent the last couple weeks putting as much lipstick on this pig as possible. Touch ups everywhere, fixed the stairs, new flooring etc etc.

I believe they owe around 305k on the place. Last week the realtor was planning on listing @ 409k, but he told me today he thinks 400k is the sweet spot.

House next door has been listed since spring, currently listed @ 389k, not sure where it started.

One house over is listed currently @ 442k, first listed in spring, heard they started close to 500k.

Will keep all you nerds updated.

#12 Major Major on 08.16.17 at 5:16 pm

As with so many fine publications, I’m only here for the articles. (Oh, who am I kidding – it’s the pictures too).

All internet comment sections (especially those allowing anonymous posting) generally aren’t worth the paper their written. While I do enjoy wading through the comments from time to time, it is with the full knowledge that a good scotch will likely be needed in short order.

Perhaps a simple warning before the comments along the lines of “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.” could be an option?

#13 boonerator on 08.16.17 at 5:17 pm

As a once a week or so commentator, I would register in a mid-town Toronto minute.
Anything to institute some accountability is very welcome.

#14 Phil Indablanque on 08.16.17 at 5:18 pm

I like the comments section as it is. It’s how I keep my finger on the pulse of the herd. I’d gladly sign in as well. Who doesn’t want to part of this club??

#15 Steph on 08.16.17 at 5:20 pm

One of my comment was deleted not long ago. I’m still scratching my head wondering what law I broke :)

Anyway, I rarely read the comments but when I do it would be nice to see answers in threads.

Long time reader here. My daily candy.

#16 Tammy on 08.16.17 at 5:21 pm

I think people should register. It won’t weed out all the kooks, but hopefully make them more accountable by not hiding beside anonymity . I look forward to your insights but get that it must be sooo wearing wading thru the muck!!

#17 Josef on 08.16.17 at 5:25 pm

“so they can still have plenty of time to polish their Porsches and trophy wives.”
—————–

Can we have a blog post about “how” Doug & Ryan polish their wives? Oh YEAH BABY!!! YEAH!!!

#18 Josh in Calgary on 08.16.17 at 5:29 pm

Free speech should be defended … but only if people are willing to have their name attached to it. Even if it is a screen name and only Garth has your real name. It weeds out the trolls a little bit.

Having replies to original comments all in one thread is handy.

Having the ability to filter is always handy to. I always like to read the ones that Garth has chosen to comment on.

I’d leave the comments because that’s half the fun (either leaving your own thoughts or reading the thoughts of others).

#19 Paul on 08.16.17 at 5:30 pm

I think we should have our picture included with our comments like you guys!

#20 Cloudy on 08.16.17 at 5:33 pm

Garth, the blog is awesome and I bet it is a serious task dealing with the comments, especially if you aren’t like-minded with the poster.

I am a very strong supporter of free speech and thick skin. Some moderating is always required, but I have always thought that no matter much I disagree with someone, I don’t think disallowing them to speakers their mind is okay. It’s better to let them be ignored.

It’s your space, your money to host, and your hard work to bring the readers but my meaningless vote is pro free speech. Even for Smoking Man’s sometime incoherent ramblings.

#21 Joe Schmoe on 08.16.17 at 5:35 pm

Blog is enlightening.

Comments are entertaining.

You will never convince people who spew hate and stereotypes with logic. Don’t think you can and it might be less burdensome.

What you blog about is helpful for many people who cannot get rational advice easily elsewhere

I think the interwebs have actually made people more dumb. Maybe you expect more out of people due to being a wrinkly? Manners/common sense/accountability/hygiene are passe.

#22 David on 08.16.17 at 5:38 pm

I agree with Lost in Space’s suggestion of adopting the FB comment plugin. As anonymity will no longer be there, users will be a lot more careful about what they post. You may not even need to monitor the comments as abusers can easily be blocked or reported to Facebook. And we will all be able to begin making comments on comments.

#23 Vancouver on 08.16.17 at 5:45 pm

Hi Garth
Keep up the good blog please. My husband and myself are in Europe at the moment but carefully watching Van real estate news via your blog. I don’t trust the newspaper anymore – flooded with real estate propaganda. We are family of 4 with two kids in primary school, bringing our kids up in a condo in Vancouver, running out of space and patience. We are small business owners and our business is tied up to Vancouver. Instead of buying into this crazy detached market, we decided to rent out bigger place until sanity returns to this city. Many our friends are in similar position, in desperate need of space, but unwilling to commit to a million dollar plys mortgagee. One of our friends who bought a house in East Van, has two rental suites below,is paying approx $5500/yr in taxes. They are house rich, cash poor – not a good solution either. Imagine the property tax on Vancouver West property…. Renting out our two bedroom condo, and using the cash flow to finance 3 bdrm condo seems to be the only solution for now. Patience is the virtue here. The whole city has gone mad talking about real estate. It’s only when you gain some healthy distance from it, you can see how irrational people in Canada have become. Europe is much More relaxed and fun that way.
Your blog is great, perhaps having treads would be more convenient.
You writing is informative, true, unbiased, brave and sometimes hilarious. Now please don’t fly away with this balloon.
Thanks again and regards from Europe

#24 Bob on 08.16.17 at 5:45 pm

Ultimately, whatever decision you make regarding the comments section has to result in you being able to keep your sanity a little while longer….

…although, drinking more good Scotch can also have the same effect.

#25 Ian on 08.16.17 at 5:48 pm

I found the multiple bearish comments here yesterday about being a landlord very interesting.

One of the things I am considering is once this nonsense bottoms, buying a house where I live in part of it and rent a unit or two in it out.

You dogs certainly have me reconsidering.

#26 Nick on 08.16.17 at 5:50 pm

Force people to register. Most of the people who post stupid comments and threats won’t put in the time or effort.

Those that do register will have an opportunity to contribute, but if they post that nonsense then they are banned. That gives everyone and opportunity and doesn’t affect free speech.

Either that, or find a few additional people to help moderate the blatantly obvious trolls/threats. Your time should be spent on content, not draining the swamp personally.

#27 FLHTK on 08.16.17 at 5:50 pm

I say let it go the way it is I read every comment and enjoy it! I have no life when I’m not riding…..to busy investing for retirement!
If you can weather the comments and bs ones I say don’t poke the bear and let it go on as is

#28 Squirrel on 08.16.17 at 5:51 pm

This!!!:

“calgaryPhantom on 08.16.17 at 5:09 pm
follow the reddit model.
upvotes climb up the ladder and downvotes fade away into darkness.”

Whatever you do, pretty please don’t kill the comments! They add flavour to the blog…sometimes a bitter flavour, but still flavour ;)

#29 paracho on 08.16.17 at 5:53 pm

I am all for keeping things the way they are !
You will always get these clowns and most of the posters add to the quality of the blog . I read both the log and the underlying comments.

#30 RudyGQ on 08.16.17 at 5:56 pm

The nature of brokerage line of work is largely the same whether you broker financial products on Bay/Wall Street or real estate. The revenue comes from commission of sales of the brokered product. To increase revenues one must find a way to increase the (perceived) value of the underlying asset as it is usually directly correlated with the commission. Therefore real estate brokers promote real estate and Bay/Wall Street brokers promote stocks/bonds/financial services etc. It is the responsibility of the prospective consumer to arm themselves with sound knowledge of the product to be more informed customers…and demand better.

Better informed customers, force merchants and brokers to produce better products which ultimate leads to more value for consumer and a fairer and more balanced market for all. The societal benefits are far reaching. Garth, Thank you for your continued efforts to educate the masses on “Economics, Real Estate, Money and the Road Ahead”!

#31 Wet Toast on 08.16.17 at 5:58 pm

Long time reader, but not necessarily first time commenting although to preserve your sanity how about only allowing comments to your blog once or twice a week? I bet then, more than 1% would actually comment! I am sure your family would appreciate that saved time with you. You can never get that lost time back – cheers!

#32 Hurtin' Albertan on 08.16.17 at 5:58 pm

Despite all the garbage and crazy talk, the comments section does offer snapshots of the sentiments and anecdotes of a wide variety of readers from across the country (and beyond). Up votes and down votes would be a nice feature. If registration will discourage the nutters then so be it, but please do not use Facebook. I will not join Facebook just to comment here.

#33 Tess on 08.16.17 at 6:00 pm

I love the blog, Garth, but at most skim through the comments for a few names. Most commenters are kind of scary. Keep the blog, and ditch the comment section, I think.

#34 name on 08.16.17 at 6:01 pm

You can always hire Antifa, the Marxist anti white organization funded by George Soros to be your moderators. I hear they are popular now.

#35 Entrepreneur on 08.16.17 at 6:02 pm

I have to agree with many of the bloggers that it is time to register. When receiving a death threat would mean to me to step up the security.

Bubble, what housing bubble or as the RE want us to think? The internet has made us ordinary working people look at the world with different eyes. And most of us like honesty and integrity.

Sometimes controlled groups/leaders think they have good intentions in helping the nation(s) but are only seeing the outlook with only one eye or with blinders on. Why do you think Brexit, Trump evolved?

#36 davef on 08.16.17 at 6:03 pm

Hola Garth,

I’ve followed you since I was in my late teens and gave and lent your books out when i as a Financial Advisor at a bank in the early 90s. I followed almost none of your advice and always told me I would have been much wealthier if I had…you were right about most things…On housing it certainly took much longer than anticipated…and I certainly had to deal with the things grown men have to deal with when renting into their early 40s but alas…i heeded this call. (that part is just a share)

Re: Postings.

I think you are overlooking a few things. 1) I think you may miss it…a lot. Sorta like doing live theatre and moving into doing big time movies with just a camera following you around…the comment sections connects you…frankly…it connects all of us. I barely read it but I do glance, often…I think to feel connected and see/feel the temperature of Canadian real estate etc not from a flat one sided blog but from all angles.

2) You get a lot of free, volunteer-y data that seems a bit haste to dismiss. Data many would pay for (not suggesting you sell it) but certainly can help you if you decide to put pen to paper in book form in a timely manner to have a laser dataset of where and what people care about at present

3) At any single day you can call upon people that respect you and get them to offer you new data…

Those are all powerful..but also as I mentioned…I think you will miss it. Not the fringes but the core. The core sharing.

—Solution?

I suspect it is not very difficult to link your blog to a login access that must be logged in via a social media site (FB/Twitter/Pinterest whateve) qualifying them as a real person – if the person misses the comment section or are simply radical etc…just block them. You don’t need reasons…its your blog…plus I suspect your readers enjoy knowing you are cutting the cyber throats of those who are ill-willed or morally abhorrent at least as they type into the din of the Altair 3000 with a poor man’s blended scotch in heavily creased yellow-tinted boxers with a bottle of Black Label as a chaser. ;-) (that one was just for you).

Keep doing your thing. When everyones dancing…there is no reason to change the music.

dave

(Sleepless In Oakville)

#37 Robert Daisey on 08.16.17 at 6:03 pm

Don’t read the comments, as there is too much trash to be worth my while (or yours).

Reading the Edmonton Metro a couple days ago and they real estate dude there says that prices will resume their climb after Labour Day, so I’m sure that things are all good…

#38 Detached TOR/VAN on 08.16.17 at 6:05 pm

Teranet HPI for july says Toronto’s detached is now going down.
But no such mention for Vancouver’s detached market.


…note that a weakening is occurring in the unsmoothed index for “dwellings other than condos” which is down 1.6%. This abrupt trend reversal in the index of Toronto’s least affordable type of dwelling is consistent with the recent loosening reported in the home resale market.

https://housepriceindex.ca/2017/08/the-teranet-national-bank-composite-house-price-index-indicates-a-2-increase-in-the-month-of-july/

#39 Guillaume on 08.16.17 at 6:07 pm

Hi Garth, the Comment section is like humanity, some stuff very good, some very bad and a lot in between, you got to keep it all. Maybe organize so people can easily answer one to each other ? I have been deleted once for a bad joke with rude language and that was a good thing you did it. Also the way you moderate is very human (specially when you kick some butt!). As a blue collar/fresh immigrant you helped me understand a wise investing philosophy, that is very generous from you and I will remind that in my old days. In a world where nothing is free, you give us free education. I would pay easy 20 bucks/year to register, read, post and be part of the family ! PS : just give the cops the information about the threatening assholes, M46BC

#40 Alberta Ed on 08.16.17 at 6:08 pm

Greater Fool has been a graduate course in financial planning and Common Sense for my wife and I. It should be required reading for every high school student (not to mention, college and university), and for every legislator in the land (which assumes our elected reps are literate, which admittedly is a lot). Keep it up. And ride the Harley lots.

#41 Fran Deck Jr. on 08.16.17 at 6:10 pm

Hi Garth;

leave your blog exactly as it is … it’s perfect … I read the comments and enjoy them very much … don’t change a thing …

#42 Danny on 08.16.17 at 6:10 pm

I pay most attention to comments from those with observations from their neighborhood. They I hope give you some useful feedback to you …..like 311 calls to the City about keeping the City in good shape because local residents are an extension of City Hall.
Feedback in a democracy keeps citizens actively involved….( democracy is more than just the vote)…same for your blog…you can’t by yourself know what’s going on in local areas.
Yes I think “Smoking Man ” will probably OD…especially when he praises Trump.
Would be nice to communicate directly with people like Smoking Man….otherwise it’s like Trump…if one only heard what Trump says and one could never see him…you would not believe he was real…especially in a democratic country.
Responding directly to people commenting would be good for people getting along better and helping to avoid extremism…and maybe improving understanding and compassion for people’s situation.
Although surely very difficult and costly for you to take on such extra work.
Otherwise status quo in your blog is good for us ”nice people “

#43 FOUR FINGERS WATSON on 08.16.17 at 6:10 pm

I say leave it as it is. The blog and comments are informative and entertaining. Maybe censor posts that are off topic or drunkenly incoherent. Differing opinions can be very educational.

#44 Entrepreneur on 08.16.17 at 6:11 pm

I don’t have facebook and will not use it #22 David so I would be out on that one.

#45 Sebee on 08.16.17 at 6:11 pm

Now that’s a bike! Fast, light, nimble, can be leaned hard.

Not like those fat, heavy, farty Harleys.

There definitely is no soft landing on a a hog.

#46 Mike on 08.16.17 at 6:12 pm

Last Day………….

[email protected]

#47 Canadian Moose on 08.16.17 at 6:14 pm

Garth & Family

Your site, your time, your resources, your happiness, your sadness, your anger, your humor etc etc etc.

I thoroughly enjoy your thoughts and the comments section even if we have a FEW wack jobs. The resources you and the twins provide are informational and excellent and entertaining. I will always be above board with my comments. Its just how I roll but ultimately YOU OWN IT. Regardless of what you do I will support your decision.

Cheers from the Hinterland!

#48 Ana on 08.16.17 at 6:16 pm

If you killed the comments section – I would still read the blog daily as always.
If you keep the comments – it would be nice if replies followed in a thread for easier reading. I’m not a fan of FB and don’t have an account so would rather register straight through your site vs plugging FB if that is what you would want.
Thanks for the years of insight and entertainment!

#49 conan on 08.16.17 at 6:21 pm

Trump Thoughts

His councils are disbanding, Everyone quitting. So big problem there.

Trump really blew it on his condemnation of the demonstrations in Virginia. He has given the impression that Nazis are ok, equal to the alt left, in terms of being bad.

Ummm no. Nazi’s are scum, give them any kind of political foothold, and they will use violence to achieve their political aims. In fact, this alt left crowd was there to make sure no one forgets that Nazi’s are scum.

I give Trump 6 months or less. Anyone want to bet sprinkles on that?

About the blog comments. I love them warts and all.

#50 CJ on 08.16.17 at 6:25 pm

I agree with the first comment by Alex S: use the Reddit platform.

Give only Garth and his guest bloggers access to post new threads, to keep noise down.

The threaded commenting and up/downvote system are excellent and moderation tools can be used to keep the comment section clean.

#51 OttawaMike on 08.16.17 at 6:26 pm

The Soft Landing Nazi: “No soft Landing For you!”

Here is an auto blog that uses the community to moderate along with the blog owners. It works reasonably well.
http://bringatrailer.com/commenting-rules/

#52 ole Doberman on 08.16.17 at 6:26 pm

What would a blog be without comments. Its a must and we blog dogs exchange good anecdotal info. Plus your snarky comments are awesome.

#53 Mrs Hubris on 08.16.17 at 6:28 pm

In the great tradition of the tooth fairy, Father Christmas and the real estate correspondent of the Financial Post, so much of the stuff we are fed by Canadian media is made to create money for someone – but sadly not for us. Yet another fairy tale today from the banking (did I spell that right?) elves.

http://business.financialpost.com/investing/trading-desk/canadian-housing-market-bubble-has-ceased-without-a-crash-landing/wcm/f1e899d9-1f98-4513-94ab-f7a5fce42b82

This blog is amazing because of its rarity – it aims to tell the public the truth when mainstream media daily abandon it. So, thanks enormously Garth for keeping going. On the comments – I would miss them – though I wonder if Garth would! The comments include some key links and there are always some grounded and fact-based opinions well worth reading. Without the comments how would we know there really are other people in Canada who see through the barrage of carefully crafted media messages, and can make up their own minds? So thank G (Garth, of course!) for it all, and thanks for the ‘blog dogs’. Although I sincerely do see why they need a vet.

#54 oopswediditagain on 08.16.17 at 6:30 pm

…. or perhaps all of the blog dawgs could just read blogs from the USA prior to their housing market crash. The comments certainly ring true.

http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/5172005_Housing_Bubble_2005.asp

Robert
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I dont expect to see the kind of appreciation we have been experiencing in so. ca (+20%/yr), but I do expect to see an appreciation of +3-6% a year for years to come. Barring a monumental catastrophy, I dont forsee any great loss of housing price (a drop of more than 10%?).
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Robert
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I have been reading about the so called housing bubble for about four years now. We sold our house in 2000 (big mistake). I kept reading and listening to others speak about the looming bubble in So. Ca., so we waited to purchase a house. I expected the prices to fall in 2001, 2002, 2003 and finally after seeing that was not to be the case, we purchased a four bedroom house in Simi Valley in 2004 (for 385K). The house across the street from us just sold for 515k.

SRB
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Anybody — can you advise what the average residential real estate value trend in % increase has been in Texas and Arizona, over the past 5-10 years? Thanks, SRB

Jonas
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I was born and raised in Cali. I feel really sorry for anyone who has purchased a house within the last 2 years. Within the next 5 to 7 years the prices WILL go down to normal. Anyone who thinks Cali home prices have just risin to a justified 8:1 ratio to incomes, is more stupid than someone who has taken the $100K out of their house to buy a new car. To answer a previous post….NO, now is not a good time to buy a house in Cali!!!

#55 Blobby on 08.16.17 at 6:38 pm

I only read comments that garth has responded to. And tend to only post when I have a question about the article. So no skin off my nose if comments just go.

I will say though in reply to this:


#9 calgaryPhantom on 08.16.17 at 5:09 pm
follow the reddit model.

upvotes climb up the ladder and downvotes fade away into darkness

Oh gawd no! Cbc has that, and all that happens is the racists group together and upvote each other. It gets depressing as it makes it look like the whole of the country are seemingly intollerant bigots, who keep going on about “leftie this”, “right wing that”. As if somehow everyone who isn’t racist is a ultra left hippy (rather than just the majority of the planet)

#56 Toronto Dweller on 08.16.17 at 6:39 pm

Love the comment section. There are some interesting characters here and some who know their stuff and Millenial like me could learn from. Guys like Ace Goodheart, ICDTH9 guy (hope I spelled that correctly) and Old Ron the Realtor, and Smoking Man especially when he is not hitting the bottle and has/had a moment of clarity.
Maybe you can do a Disqus feature where the comments are voted and upvoted. Yes you need the registration but it’s the best way to weed out the haters especially those that hide behind the anonymous mask and threaten you and your family.

#57 Screwed Canadian Millenial on 08.16.17 at 6:39 pm

Thought of you Garth last Friday while watching one of the smartest shows on television, Real Time with Bill Maher. Saved this clip just for you. Jon Meacham is a brilliant Pulitzer Prize winning author and historian.

https://www.mrctv.org/videos/maher-meacham-zakaria-admit-immigration-concerns-not-necessarily-racist

Debating immigration is not racist. If the US takes in 1 million immigrants per year and is about 10x our size, then proportionally, we should be taking in about 100,000 per year. Not 320,000.

It’s not racist to debate immigration levels. I don’t know why you think it is. You’ve never provided an explanation, you just delete my comments because you don’t seem to like your views being challenged.

Canadians need a RAISE! Wages haven’t gone up in 40 years. Stop flooding the market with excess labour and suppressing wages.

As you know, I’ve also provided plenty of msm news articles to provide stats and facts backing up my views. Something else you don’t seem to like for some reason.

#58 Dave Smith on 08.16.17 at 6:40 pm

Hi Garth,

I also agree with #1 Alex S. Remove comments from here, and just put a link in the bottom of each post to take discussions to Reddit.

This has 5 advantages:
1) You can assign as many people as you want as moderators with the ability to remove offending comments.
2) Reddit has sophisticated tools for auto-moderation such as auto-deleting links from certain websites, banning specific phrases/terms.
3) The community helps decide what’s worth reading. Readers can vote up or down comments and terrible comments fade away when given enough down votes.
4) Removed comments from the site itself, leaving those who don’t care at all about comments a pristine reading experience.
5) You (and others) can directly respond to comments offering further insight on anything since reddit has a sophisticated commenting system with replies, content embedding and highlighting of original authors (like you).

Anyway, just my thoughts :) Thanks for putting in such hard work on keeping the site useful.

#59 Dwight on 08.16.17 at 6:42 pm

If you decided to charge a subscription service I would be all for it, especially if you included more specific investment information, like which ETFs to buy. If you don’t want to get that rich the next option would be to require registration. I’d be all for that too. OR, just leave it the way it is. I read it with my morning coffee every day. Keep up the good work. I wish you were still on the speaker tour out here in B.C.

#60 mouldyinYVR on 08.16.17 at 6:43 pm

Garth,
You wade through this stuff everyday…….sort a’ like gardening; pulling out the weeds, tossing the trash and harvesting the ‘goodies’. It must do you some good, otherwise I don’t think you’d still be at it. However, even dedicated gardeners need a rest. Why not put up a sign: ‘gone fishing’, close the comments and then when you’re itching to get ‘yer boots on, you can let us all back in.
Enjoy your summer……..

#61 Geoffrey on 08.16.17 at 6:43 pm

Anonymous comments are great. The environment fosters open discussion – for the good and bad. Whatever you do though, please, keep those Facebook tentacles off this site. They have collected enough information about everyone in the world already.

#62 Screwed Canadian Millenial on 08.16.17 at 6:44 pm

Sorry if you don’t like the link, that’s the only clip I could find of the particular quote. It’s at the 40 second mark.

#63 Deb on 08.16.17 at 6:44 pm

I typically just scan the comments section looking for those who share anecdotal stories of what’s happening in different parts of the country – have to scan through a lot of crap unfortunately.

#64 Leo S on 08.16.17 at 6:44 pm

Here’s some ideas for how to improve comments and cut down the work for you. Successfully used on my site which doesn’t get as many but still some 13,000 comments a year.

1. Install Akismet spam filtering if you don’t already have it
2. Install the wordpress plugin Comments Since Last Visit to highlight new comments for easier reading https://www.johnparris.com/wordpress-plugins/comments-since-last-visit/
3. Only moderate the first comment someone posts and then allow them to post after that without moderation (Settings -> Discussion -> Before a comment appears and select second choice)
4. Install the plugin Comment Keywords to send you an email when certain words are said and you can verify that the comment is OK.
5. Install the plugin Simple Comment Editing to allow users 5 minutes to edit their comment or reconsider it after posting.
6. Aggressively block people by IP and email if they’re being asshats.
7. Periodically scan through the comments to see if you missed anything.

You might get a few more comments get through that shouldn’t, but it will be drastically less work for you.

#65 Jay (not that one) on 08.16.17 at 6:48 pm

The format of your comments really depends on what you’re hoping to accomplish.

The flat, time-based comments you have now focus more on saying what you think about the article at hand. It’s difficult to keep a thread straight, so only a few discussions amongst users will result.

A threaded comments system would focus more on discussions between users, with root comments generally being about the article at hand. Potentially, it could mean people’s discussions last much longer. Right now comments usually Peter off completely in a day or two. Another thing that might happen is you may find yourself forced to interject into interpersonal spats between users who might not have spoken before.

With respect to moderation, you can generally get away with pretty draconian rules as long as you’re honest, open, and consistent. You need to telegraph expectations right away and follow through. The exception to this would be if you planned to use automatic filters. If you just say “nope!” And force them to resubmit, the problem folks will just immediately adapt. “No chinks? Well you never said no chonks!”

I don’t know how many rejects you get for each good comment. If the number is high, maybe an alternative would be using a service like Amazon mechanical Turk to have people who don’t really have a stake in the game cheaply select accept and reject comments.

Another alternative could be an “accept any” approach where every comment has a report button, and those comments are sent back for moderation, so completely uncontroversial posts can fly under the radar and your focus can be on questionable ones.

Are you using publicly available blogging software for this site? Curious because I’ve got a blog I’m handling manually using HTML, simple secure blogging software would be nice, reduce some of the hand work when posting.

#66 TurnerNation on 08.16.17 at 6:48 pm

Post comments on Smoking man’s blog instead. Bark away. Might is Right.

#67 TheDood on 08.16.17 at 6:49 pm

This blog is a big gold nugget in a sewage infested slough!

Status Quo – keep it as is!

#68 rainclouds on 08.16.17 at 6:50 pm

Whaaaaat? “the amazons” are a figment of my imagination…….that bites!

Blog is a true cross section of mostly Canadians venting, cajoling, lying, informing.

More importantly, learning from a forum that encourages us to think about and make sense of the financial and housing insanity around us.

Garth baby, You are facilitating the education of millions and likely saving the derrieres of many who otherwise would be sucked into the vortex of debt……

Thanks for your tireless efforts!

#69 akashic records on 08.16.17 at 6:52 pm

People who think opinions were more responsible if your picture, mother’s name, SIN was attached, could be really excited how much more progressive could be general elections if only we got rid of the secret ballots, which were probably proposed mostly by slave masters and provide perfect hiding places for all the crazy lunatics to elect irresponsibly whoever the devil they want to.

#70 Smartalox on 08.16.17 at 6:52 pm

As Dorothy and Bandit can attest, this whole process may have involved scotch, hurled epithets and fast motorcycle rides to recover.

Hopefully NOT in that stated order!

#51 Ottawa Mike: as a regular on Bring a Trailer (where I dream of spending my Garth-gotten millions), I know that they’ve had problems with false-flagging of comments as ‘not constructive’.

Also, do we want to risk ‘Smoking Man’ becoming this blog’s equivalent of ‘sludgo’?

#71 Algonquin Settler on 08.16.17 at 6:55 pm

I love the comments, learn from some, and get the herd feel. Besides, if you don’t have opinions from all over the map, you’re just standing in an echo chamber. That may be ok for the Alt-Left, Alt-Right, and Special Snowflakes, but I’m Alt-Middle.

Please, please, please do not go to Facebook, Google, or Evil Corp. for comments. I ditched FB years ago when they demanded a copy of my passport to prove my identity. I also think some would alter info provided in comments, since they would lose anonymity.

#72 WUL on 08.16.17 at 6:57 pm

Switch to a live phone in show without use of a delay and let us know in advance of a publicly traded distiller whose single malt you prefer.

#73 Guy in Calgary on 08.16.17 at 6:59 pm

I feel as though the comments section adds personality to the blog. I would miss housing crash guy cursing the shyster, high school drop out realtors, Smoking Man and the actual reasonable conversation that takes place. I enjoy reading perspectives from across the country. Granted, this is only possible because they are moderated. Just hire a MOD.

#74 SoggyShorts on 08.16.17 at 7:06 pm

Something that lets people reply to others directly would be great. Often posters pose a question to other forum dogs, and it would be nice if all of the answers were attached. Anything that isn’t facebook related would be great.

#75 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.16.17 at 7:06 pm

My suggestion would be to implement a system where all comments are auto-approved, but the blog dogz would have the ability to flag inappropriate comments. If a comment reaches a certain threshold, say 3 or more flags, it would then be automatically de-published and sent to a moderation queue where you could manually review it.

This would save you a lot of time and effort – Having to review a handful of comments instead of hundreds per day. It would also have the added benefit of comments appearing right away, instead of readers having to wait (for hours in some cases) for new comments to be appear. It would be more fluid, and a better user experience.

Frankly, I don’t know how you have the time to do this 7 days a week, 365! Let the readers help you Garth, you are but one man!

#76 wallflower on 08.16.17 at 7:07 pm

If you are going the more-alcohol route, pick the good stuff, post those ones at a perma-position, and let the bottles roll in…
!!!
I’m good for a McClelland’s since that is as high as I go for myself (regularly, though).

#77 Jose on 08.16.17 at 7:10 pm

let blog-dogs decide whether to continue having a comments section. have a vote one day :)
Honestly, I contribute very little but, in my opinion, it adds very little value and yes, it’s grown highly discriminatory and divisive

#78 Dan.t on 08.16.17 at 7:10 pm

Haha, awesome intro! I am posting before I read the second half because I laughed so hard…could be the 4 beers I had but as an avid and addicted reader, I do enjoy the post and the comments provide a lot of additional good information and interesting links.

Some are funny, some are silly, some are annoying, some make me laugh, some make me angry, but that is what makes them interesting. So far I haven’t seen too many get out of hand.

I even got banned a couple times but it sets limits and either you accept them or you don’t.

And if the comments were gone I would miss the Happy housing crash guy’s post! And many other funny/sad/ dumb/ insightful/ jaded, etc, comments.

Keep doing your thing! I can’t speak for anyone else but either way, I appreciate what you do. Your blog, your decision.

#79 Tony on 08.16.17 at 7:11 pm

Re: #18 Josh in Calgary on 08.16.17 at 5:29 pm

Read the dot ca part in greaterfool.ca

There is no freedom of speech in Canada. Unless the blog url address is outside of Canada there is still no freedom of speech.

#80 A. Reader on 08.16.17 at 7:11 pm

Use the Reddit model, outsource the work to a a moderator or two. Plenty would volunteer. Rarely comment but enjoy reading them, very entertaining.

#81 When Will They Raise Rates? on 08.16.17 at 7:14 pm

Also, threaded comments would be a 100% improvement in terms of readability – When comment #297 is in response to comment #17, etc, it makes for an extremely disorganized and disjointed overall conversation. All responses to a particular comment should be in one thread, as opposed to the way it is now – all over the place.

#82 wallflower on 08.16.17 at 7:14 pm

I want to add another more important comment: no Facebook please. Hate the f*8888er.
(I know, I know, you are against hate! how else to say it?)

#83 Doghouse Dweller on 08.16.17 at 7:14 pm

No soft landing for you.
So you know whats coming. Lots of not so stable greaterfools losing their shirts in real estate and looking for someone to blame.
The threats and smears will only get worse as the financial casualties mount. This “greedy homeowner” horse has been flogged to death.

Time for a refreshing new topic, book or whatever ! Anything but this constant RE navel gazing.

#84 Terrie on 08.16.17 at 7:15 pm

I have read your blog for quite a few years now. I don’t read the comments. I wouldn’t miss them. Thank you very much for all your financial insights and witty writing. Thank you also, to your brilliant colleagues who give you a breather once a week. :)

#85 Millennial falcon on 08.16.17 at 7:16 pm

Garth you can kill the comment section. Easy fix
I certainly won’t miss it.

#86 Boombust on 08.16.17 at 7:21 pm

Hi Garth,

I like the comments as they are. However, I think up/neutral/down “voting options” to let the person commenting on how we feel about what they have written would be a nice addition.

#87 Boombust on 08.16.17 at 7:22 pm

“…know how we feel…”

#88 Howard on 08.16.17 at 7:25 pm

Oh no, please not another login/password combo to keep track of. Won’t somebody thing of the long-suffering Internet message board junkie?

If you decide to go that route, I will of course register, but with an irritated sigh.

#89 Blutterfy on 08.16.17 at 7:27 pm

Leave the comments as is and get someone to filter the garbage for you at least one day a week. I enjoy reading them – 99% for entertainment but there has been a few where I’ve learned from – and the differing opinions expressed encourage thinking from all sides. This is crucial because it allows all the loopholes to be poked and the strongest argument wins. So yes, I would say this blog encourages free speech. What people get mixed up is they think free speech = free expression of opinions when in fact all free speech means is that the government can’t attack you for your beliefs and opinions.
Alternatively, a Reddit model of comments is quite good because readers can upvote/downvote comments so usually the most useful ones are on top. However you would still need to moderate it because trolls have more time than the average joe to waste.
Cheers,
And thank you for the thousands of hours in free financial education – you saved this moister and hubby from getting sucked into RE. Now to see if the relatives in south Van spend the inheritance because you know – you wouldn’t want us to be homeless now so we need this 1m mortgage… :S

#90 Dissident on 08.16.17 at 7:28 pm

This is golden:

“Illustrating that I have no life, every one of those comments was moderated by hand.”

“Would Smoking Man OD as a result? Or, is this blog okay the way it is, and I just need more alcohol?”

Lol! Great post. I agree that you might want to investigate better comments section management in the form of a different platform or add-on software, if/where possible. I am no tech expert, but I am pretty sure you have options. And many suck-up offers to point you in the right direction.

#91 Blutterfy on 08.16.17 at 7:29 pm

@73 Guy in Calgary

Agreed 100%.

#92 Dissident on 08.16.17 at 7:29 pm

#73 Guy in Calgary on 08.16.17 at 6:59 pm

Lol, “shyster” is my new fave word of the month.

#93 Leebow on 08.16.17 at 7:31 pm

500k? That’s almost 700 hrs at conservative 5 sec a post. A lot in addition to the actual writing.

Is it a worthy investment? Is there any value in the comments? Do they help at all to produce more of those timeless posts?

It would be sad to see the comments go. My experience is that I post every few weeks (highly correlated to personal consumption of red, i have to admit). I don’t post anywhere else and not registered in a single social network. Antisocial in a way. Perhaps the ease of posting here makes the difference.

Would experimenting with alerts and flagging be an option before considering more drastic measures?

#94 Damifino on 08.16.17 at 7:34 pm

If it ain’t broke…

You Garth are the one who sacrifices the most time. Any day you’re done moderating the tedious multi-posters, the paragraph-challenged and all those who simply love the look of their own text in a round cornered little grey box is fine with me.

I’ll still be an avid reader. I only skim comments now seeking the handful of posters who are sometimes worth reading. That handful shrinks yearly.

Readership might fall somewhat as a result, but so what? As you yourself have said, there’s more to life.

#95 Muttley O'Toole on 08.16.17 at 7:34 pm

Greetings from the Great Southern Land.
I have been following Garth’s blog for a number of years and he is one dude that has his head screwed on right!
What he has long prophesied is coming to pass – and we are sweating on it now down here.
Even that little island south of the mainland -pop. approx.500,000 – is reaching peak price.
(Are we the last place left in the world waiting for property to go belly up?)
Anyway, to get to the point – Garth, I regard your informative blog – and a lot of comments – as one of the few remaining non-fake news sites so it would be sorely missed if you decided to fold.
But whatever you decide, please don’t go Face Book – can’t stand it.

#96 Johnny d on 08.16.17 at 7:36 pm

Pros and cons to comment sections however you make it. All i can ask is if you go the register rout, make it open to anybody and not just Facebook users as i do not have a Facebook account.

I could get into why i don’t like the idea of a company like Facebook commoditizing peoples’ personal info, but that would get long winded.

Open ended registration with email verification please.

Thank you

#97 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.17 at 7:36 pm

@#32 Hurtin Albertan
“please do not use Facebook. I will not join Facebook just to comment here.”
++++++
100% total agreement.
(Cue Social Justice Warriors to riot for Facebook)

PS. Happy National Rum Day everyone

#98 crowdedelevatorfartz on 08.16.17 at 7:39 pm

@#37 Robert Daisy
You “dont read the comments because there’s too much trash” but you read a free handout “Metro” fishwrapper for real estate “news”!?!?!

Wow……just……WOW!

#99 raisemyrent on 08.16.17 at 7:40 pm

haven’t finished the article (the financial bit). to my knowledge, no one else uses my handle, and I’ve come here for a few years now. Love the blog, please never change! (ther eyou go)
I used to read the comments and participate more, but what alienates me the most, is that there’s so much faff in them these days. Can’t really be bothered to read everything. Apart from all the rubbish you wrote about today (veiled racism, etc.), there’s people going back to yesterday’s comment #1555 to prove a silly point, trying to be funny, getting into it with one another etc. Go to reddit, 4chan, myspace lol whatever for that.

So, I suggest to start a register for comments, with an embedded bot (or even IP) check (something like what does T2/[email protected] mean?). That should reduce the number of comments significantly, and keep things consistent with who’s who. It’s sad not to embrace the free for all, anyone mentality, but the internet unfortunately, is not a place where things can stay in control for long, especially as this has become more popular.
Users with proven canine pets get a VIP membership, of course. Anyone with a cat or a realturd licence gets banned.

#100 Gasbag Boomer on 08.16.17 at 7:41 pm

Just delete the factual, sane comments and allow the Smoking Man and funny comments only.

#101 raisemyrent on 08.16.17 at 7:41 pm

sorry, forgot to say: a basic set of rules and bans for whoever breaks them should also help. maybe:
– no quoting yesterday’s comments
– no racism, etc all the obvious ones
– no personal attacks (intelligent retorts are ok)
– no ads or proselitism
– etc

#102 Dogs can type. on 08.16.17 at 7:43 pm

Just get a spelling filter.

That will filter out most of the garbage that we all have to skim past.

#103 Long-Time Lurker on 08.16.17 at 7:52 pm

Free speech. Anonymity to aid free speech. Auto-filter for derogatory terms. Report a post so others can catch something and then Garth can look over it. Auto-posting. This way much of Garth’s work is automated or delegated to others. He can just look at reports and skim over the comments and delete or reply as he likes.

#104 Still standing in Calgary on 08.16.17 at 7:54 pm

I have posted 5 times, three times in response to calls for polls on various matters. I have never used the same ‘name’ as that reflects my frame of mind and level of alcohol consumed. Perhaps some pre-screening is required based on what you have to deal with. Anonymity is makings the jerks bolder… So my vote is pre-register. SM will get over the initial hurdle.

#105 Happy Soft Landing Everyone! on 08.16.17 at 7:58 pm

Yes it’s true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#106 Old Ron the Realtor on 08.16.17 at 7:59 pm

I like the Blog as is. A nice blend of informed opinion and the occasional character. I am sure there are trolls out there, but they seldom make it to the screen.

Personally, not a big fan of the “REPLY” key. It attracts personal attacks, and tends to lead to topic drift.

Congrats to Garth on the Blog’s success. Seven Million Visits a year !!!!. He is like the Bono of Real Estate contrarians.

#107 Greater Fool on 08.16.17 at 7:59 pm

BUY BITCOIN!

#108 bdwy sktrn on 08.16.17 at 8:03 pm

#22 David on 08.16.17 at 5:38 pm
I agree with Lost in Space’s suggestion of adopting the FB comment plugin.
————————
david is a strange name for a teenaged girl.
grown men don’t facebook.

#109 Chaddywack on 08.16.17 at 8:04 pm

I am one of the fiercest free speech defenders around and truly believe that people don’t have protection in a free and democratic society from being “offended.”

That being said, a line is crossed when someone is threatened with death or bodily harm or hate speech (I’m talking TRUE hate speech under criminal code definitions such as advocating genocide etc.) takes place. Not me saying “I hate T2” and a bunch of hipster SJW’s flip out and surround my east van house wondering how I can question the divinity of the all knowing Justin while they toke on his legalized weed.

Anyway, I really think that it’s a fine balance, between freedom of speech and censoring. Clearly the line was crossed as the threats could be criminal. If nothing else, forcing people to register could hold them accountable, but I agree with others that people will still find a way and this would be too much of a hassle.

My suggestion is:

-Leave the comments open as is

-Let a small group of volunteers censor comments on a biweekly basis (12-15 blog dogs would do). Maybe choose based on seniority (because the union says so), the dog’s reputation, or how much they kiss your rear end. It would relieve you to do other things.

-Don’t pick me to do this please, if you do for some reason pick me I’ll just say I’m racist against everyone and think everyone is guilty (hey, it worked for getting out of jury duty! ;)

#110 Dissident on 08.16.17 at 8:04 pm

Dear Garth, I will be your comment section moderator for just $60K annual salary so I can quit my day job and still afford to pay my mortgage…this Xennial doesn’t ask for much, lol. (Btw, I’m serious).

#111 T on 08.16.17 at 8:04 pm

My 2 cents are, only publish the comments you write an answer to. I personally only read the ones you reply to anyway. or ones you want us to read.

#112 akashic records on 08.16.17 at 8:11 pm

#49 conan

In fact, this alt left crowd was there to make sure no one forgets that Nazi’s are scum.

Masked, violent leftist crowd mobilized “to make sure no one forgets that Nazi’s are scum” is an excellent idea.

After WWII in Eastern-Europe the same guardians of democracy made sure that all the Nazis and Nazi sympathizers were erased from politics.

It took them a bit longer than 6 months to finish their job, but withing a couple of years of tireless fight against the Nazis they eventually cleaned up the entire political system in Eastern-Europe.

It just happened to be that every single politician and all political parties proved to be fascist one way or an other and they all had to be eliminated until only the Communist party and their selected group of leaders were left.

At that point the only logical democratic choice and duty to make sure that democracy remains Nazi-free was to declare a single party “people’s republic” and put all other politicians to jail or better yet, execute them.

Western democracies always failed to acknowledge the historical role of Communists in eliminating Nazis after post-war Eastern-Europe and the USSR.

Shameful as it is, Western democracies who originally fought against Nazism, waged wars, economic embargo and other strong-arm imperialist actions against Communism.

Eventually a right-wing, anti-Communist fake US President (he was actually an actor) managed to dismantle the only guarantee against the re-birth of Fascism in the region, the Soviet Communism.

Hardcore Communists in Eastern-Europe predicted that it was only a matter of time when new generation of Americans will realize the grave mistakes of their parents and they will continue the historic role of the radical left to be the guardians against the Nazis in the USA and around the world.

#113 mark on 08.16.17 at 8:11 pm

500k publishable comments is amazing.

The worst comments are in your face, you have to deal with them, which will make them seem more than they are, but they’re likely coming from a limited number of bad actors.

While 1000 or so people were fighting at Charlottesville, 100,000 people probably spent the weekend at Disneyland. No cameras, no reporters, no attention, no opinion pieces, but we’re told the small group is the one that’s defining everything.

No.

#114 T on 08.16.17 at 8:12 pm

The comments drive massive engagement, don’t remove them. Expect your visits to drop if you do opt to remove the comments. I’m sure many readers visit multiple times a day to participate and catch up on the comments. Smoking Man and MF must represent a few dozen visit a day each for example.

Having a moderator requires you to rely on someone doing their job before you can do yours.

Requiring users create accounts / authenticate means a site rebuild to some degree, and you may lose some commenters and thus engagement and traffic.

Reddit is ok, but doesn’t fit the audience and commentators of this blog.

Filters are likely your best bet and path of least resistance to implement as it would require minor code updates and minimal, if any, changes to your routine. Ensure you have a way to manage the filter rules yourself so you can update as necessary and you are good to go.

There is something honest and humble about this blog in its current format.

As for the Toronto market, it’s the fastest slow motion train wreck ever.

#115 espressobob on 08.16.17 at 8:13 pm

Each of us has a different viewpoint. It may or may not agree with anyone else. Isn’t that the point of this blog?

To have a collective mentality, would prove most boring.

#116 Burnaby_Boy on 08.16.17 at 8:14 pm

2nd time commenting … I would cease accepting comments. There’s enough quality in your insights that this blog can exist with that alone.

#117 the Jaguar on 08.16.17 at 8:16 pm

Garth knows what parallel universe the Jaguar lives in and I would have no objection to registering. Those who don’t value the comments section do not have to read them, but there are insightful posts and links to related subjects that I would miss them if they disappeared. Many comments provide opportunities for Garth’s wit and delightful responses. It isn’t ‘all finance all the time’ on the blog, as issues such as ‘musty basement dwellers’ in peoples lives do have an impact on peoples ability to save or downsize. The anecdotal posts that support Garth’s thoughts add a lot of value. It’s all food for thought and seeing one’s own situation in other’s comments provides assurances, warnings, and sometimes a lot of laughter. Unfortunately some post too often (you know who you are) and some post completely off topic ( you also know who you are – no more YouTube song posts, please). No more use of the word ‘shyster’, please. ‘Pink Pollen falling” seems a bit overused. Is the solution to this problem to keep everyone on a tighter leash? Perhaps. Maybe the Blog Dogs need more obedience lessons until the message finally gets through…(?)
If we are more respectful and try to add value to the topic of the day it makes reading the comments more interesting. The Jaguar will admit going a little overboard suggesting a switch be taken to OSFI. I miss the comments of Another Albertan and also Aggregator. Hoping they have not been chased off by the musings of the wild bunch.
Thanks to Dorothy and Bandit for all their contributions and keeping Garth sane all this time.

#118 domain on 08.16.17 at 8:18 pm

Garth,

I like the structure of a blog that allows you to respond directly to comments, allowing them to roll-off into conversations.

This is particularly useful if two people want to enter into an intelligent debate that can be easily followed, or to keep two or more idiots who want to sling mud at one-another from making it difficult to follow the other comments. This format would allow people to scroll down and skip past the dead-end-roads to new comments by following the indents, or to more easily follow a distinct conversation instead of having to search for a particular set of keywords.

Bonus would be if you would have people register accounts on your blog, so that members could look through their history of comments, and also be notified when someone replies to your thoughts. Additionally, accounts make it more cumbersome for people to post multiple comments with different names.

Thank you.

#119 Bob on 08.16.17 at 8:20 pm

Another opinion on where house prices in Vancouver and Toronto are heading. Some compelling arguments here indicating that prices are heading higher.
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/toronto-and-vancouver-housing-is-going-to-get-even-pricier/ar-AAqa4Xm?li=AA54rW&ocid=spartandhp

Myers is a real estate developer and last week’s census data proved this theory wrong. — Garth

#120 raisemyrent on 08.16.17 at 8:20 pm

I think we do need a reasonable character limit for comments if nothing else

#121 GTA Vacant Homes Tax on 08.16.17 at 8:23 pm

The City of Toronto announced today, August 16th, the desire to know your opinion on the proposal of a vacant homes tax. Let your thoughts be known via the link below:

http://www.toronto.ca/VHT

Press Release:

https://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=af71df79b2df6410VgnVCM10000071d60f89RCRD&nrkey=FFB4BC239024D6128525817E005D700D

#122 AJ on 08.16.17 at 8:23 pm

Garth- you’re wonderful (mandatory suck up). So is this blog. 500k comments means you’re doing loads right. Don’t mess with success. Keep it 1.0 and rock on. Don’t mess with Smokey or the Mayor of Milton’s recipe for success.
Oh…and also reading from the herd has been immensely helpful! I’ve learned so much.
Thank you Garth!

#123 Cheekmonster on 08.16.17 at 8:27 pm

A Facebook plug-in, Reddit or Discuss are all great options so we can reply on specific comments more effectively. Reddit likely offers the best way for you to also moderate and block certain people.

#124 Terry on 08.16.17 at 8:27 pm

Registering to comment on a blog I wouldn’t bother with. I would keep reading the daily blog postings I just wouldn’t bother commenting anymore.

#125 cmj on 08.16.17 at 8:28 pm

I like the way the blog is even though I have no clue how you find the time to read the comments. In my experience of reading your blog for many years and taking your sage advice,

I especially appreciate how you challenge those who come across as if the info is fact when it is just their strong opinion. This is where I really get enlightened by your knowledgeable background. There is only 1 Garth Turner who steps up and calls a spade a spade. It is a key part to the popularity of the blog. The blog covers a lot of territory and has evolved to what it is today.

As for some of the characters on the blog, I just pass over many of them and get the kernels of wisdom by scanning comments. We are like a dysfunctional family with geniuses and others who rant about nothing and then there are the majority who are just good people. It represents real life and as you have said many times, it is your blog and you will reign us in when need be. Thanks for asking for our input :-)

#126 DON on 08.16.17 at 8:28 pm

Hmm.

I like the comments good and bad – gives an understanding of sentiment. Love the exchanges and validation of information. Priceless to a degree.

Not liking the death threats, but will they cease (without the comments) or is it that recent blog posts are revealing that real estate has no clothes and people are starting to panic. Everything was fine (more or less) when housing was going up year over year. But now that real estate is in trouble…some people are getting viciously angry even though the warning signs are evident (perhaps too much skin in the game).

If I need to register for a better sense of accountability – so be it. Please…no facebook. Recently I received an unsolicited reminder that my old account has be inactive – for 8 years. If I click on the email it reactivates my account.

This blog is my number 1 pick everyday. I have learned a great deal from everyone. No other blog provides a collaborative learning environment (for better or worse). Plus comments give you hints on topics to address.

Cheers,

Cheers,

#127 RB on 08.16.17 at 8:35 pm

Please turn comments off. They only serve to show how smart you are by comparison, which any regular reader would already know. You bring great data, analysis and investment philosophy. By contrast, the comments are full of insults, ignorance, racism and sadly, even personal threats. The comments are absolutely worthless crap, except for this comment of course.

#128 Yuus bin Haad on 08.16.17 at 8:35 pm

This may be the only public forum where everyone between alt-left and -right is allowed to duke it out (civilly, under Garth’s watchful eye).

If you’re up for it Garth, I like it just the way it is.

#129 yorkville renter on 08.16.17 at 8:35 pm

comments should stay… format could change. those who complain most are the ones that will suffer (good!)

while I too love the anecdotes (and contribute a few here and there), most of the time I assume they’re just BS… I also think some people post under multiple names to prop up their own comments.

any truth to my hypothesis?

#130 Tradition on 08.16.17 at 8:36 pm

HI Garth,

I am almost 50. I have 4 children and 2 dogs in the family. I remain happy with wife number one.

I read daily, follow the rule of 90, remain liquid with a large 70/30 portfolio, and thank you and the blog from keeping me out the really expensive parts of town.

I follow most of your rules. Early retirement WILL happen because of your advice on this blog. I have even spoken to you on the phone once.

You were incredibly gracious and helpful.

Please keep the blog as is. It runs very well and I enjoy all the comments. I tend to skip the ones that don’t apply to me.

If the work gets too much then:
a) sub out the moderation to trusted blog dogs or
b) cap the comments to 150 or so (it’s hard to read past that)

Thanks for your work.

#131 Reformedsnorfler on 08.16.17 at 8:39 pm

Daily reader, sporadic commentor. If it were up to me I would keep the comments section as-is, warts and all. I especially enjoy reading Garth’s responses.

#132 AACI Homedog on 08.16.17 at 8:39 pm

I would like to send you a bottle of Lagavullin, Garth…

#133 Fish on 08.16.17 at 8:40 pm

Garth, Please do what you feel is right for you,
I enjoy and look
Forward to reading your blog and the comments
Thankyou

#134 Christopher Dillon on 08.16.17 at 8:45 pm

A registration system, such as Disqus, is fine with me.

I appreciate the time and effort you put into this blog, Garth. I also appreciate commenters who post links to relevant news stories, statistics and other useful information.

I would continue to read the blog if you closed the comments.

#135 East on 08.16.17 at 8:45 pm

East Vancouver still seems in decent shape.

http://members.rebgv.org/realtorlink/rebgv/statscentrereports/Vancouver-East.pdf

Sure, more inventory, but the sales volume is the same as 12 months ago for detached, and up from July 2016 for condo and townhome.

#136 SimplyPut7 on 08.16.17 at 8:46 pm

I vote for a free registered comment section with spelling and grammar check.

#137 OttawaMike on 08.16.17 at 8:46 pm

#70 SmartAlox

#51 Ottawa Mike: as a regular on Bring a Trailer (where I dream of spending my Garth-gotten millions), I know that they’ve had problems with false-flagging of comments as ‘not constructive’.

Also, do we want to risk ‘Smoking Man’ becoming this blog’s equivalent of ‘sludgo’?
—————————–

Oh I’ve had numerous complaints to the management at BAT where they even replied to me in the comments on their flagging policy. In the end their system works quite well.
As for Smoking Man, he already is this blogs Dyslexic Alcoholic version of Sludgo.

#138 tccontrarian on 08.16.17 at 8:47 pm

“If you have an opinion, let’s hear it.” -GT
*****************************************

One change in the format I’d welcome is the ability to respond to a post directly within a ‘thread’. The way it is now one has to scroll through all the comments to see if anyone responded on a previous post.

TCC

#139 Dave from Kincardine on 08.16.17 at 8:50 pm

Bad bloggers. I read Reddit and it has some pretty strange comments as well. Not sure about what to do about threats. You are controversial for sure as people’s love of their house probably ranks higher than love of their spouse. Dogs are ranked the highest of course. Maybe you should write every other day so you can heal and people can cool off a bit. Just as trial basis. I feel it is important to speak the truth about situations concerning money- vital. It is frustrating for people to see houses skyrocket and not participate as well as they can’t see options around housing, wealth growth, lifestyle.

Listen to your heart or your guts. Both are probably right. I have been a ‘stockbroker’ for 35 years. A few scars on me as well. I hope the Blogs continue and regardless are a good man! Good Luck.

Maybe get people to pay $1 to a charity for each blog. It may make them think in a more polite manner.

#140 Me on 08.16.17 at 8:50 pm

Why do people think you are sane?
Is there proof?

#141 rosholt on 08.16.17 at 8:56 pm

Comment ratings so the blog is self regulated to a point. Low rated comments get auto-hidden.
Registration mandatory.
Don’t blog every day – too much to read, go to Mon, Wed, Fri only with the Ken doll’s alternating Saturdays.

#142 Jack BeNimble on 08.16.17 at 8:59 pm

As mentioned by a previous poster, the thumbs up and thumbs down (Reddit style) can work well with the more thoughtful posts rising to the top while all the “firsts” drift slowly down to the pit in which they belong.

arsTechnica has template guidelines which could be drawn from to link through to posters who ask “why was I deleted” crowd.

https://arstechnica.com/staff/2000/01/postguide/

To further compel thoughtful engagement, occassionally a comment or two on the arsTechnical articles are linked included at the bottom of the article by the author. These comments are shown above the comments section itself. Most of the comments help flesh out some of the ideas from the article and many end up being comments with a lot of positive thumbs up from readers already.

Logging in through social media could be an option, but please don’t make it the only one (they don’t need to know everything that we say or do). Plus, the social logins don’t really stop trolls – the trolls have a host of accounts to use when need be.

Curious if there is there anyone here with the technical expertise to recommend free plugins that might work on this site?

And to get past your new spam filter – Things that are awesome: Dogs, Harleys, washboard abs, Garth Dorothy Bandit and juicy dividends

Thanks for the blog.

#143 Deplorable Dude on 08.16.17 at 8:59 pm

So while the Left is having a meltdown over Trump daring to call out the ongoing violence by their Soros rentamob Antifada goons, no one seems to have noticed that NAFTA renegotiations with the States has started.

Canada’s NAFTA stance is truly bizarre and laughable….

Our questionably qualified Foreign Affairs rep Christia Freeland has the following ‘Trade priorities’

“Canada is focused on ensuring a “progressive trade agenda”. She is demanding a focus on LGBTQ, and specifically transgender rights in the trade deal, in addition to cultural sensitivity aspects, and climate change”

We’re screwed…..

#144 just a dude on 08.16.17 at 9:00 pm

Garth,

I’m one of those who’s been reading your posts since ’07 (remember Xurbia? Interesting times back then). I’ve also attended a few of your financial seminars dating all the way back to ’96 or so. I think I’ve bought every one of your books (I still have them all). Always appreciated your insights.

I come here to read your posts (and now those of Ryan & Doug). I rarely read the comments and when I do, I find myself skimming over very quickly. Would I miss the comments? No. Would I miss your & your colleagues’ posts? Yes.

Hope this was an adequate suck up!

#145 Immigrant on 08.16.17 at 9:03 pm

– commenting for the first time here
– i’m up for any solution that would keep this blog running as long as possible (just started to read, but i’m hooked now)
– comments don’t add value to me — too much junk to sort thru before I find a valuable thought.
– would like to read more on dogs here. Badly want to own one, but don’t understand how since I’m not at home for 10hrs Mon-Fri.

#146 Comment reader on 08.16.17 at 9:07 pm

I never comment, but read them every day. We don’t need it to be easier to reply. That will devolve into nastiness too quickly. Registered commenting would be a good idea. I think keeping the comments is necessary, the 1% who do comment give a wide spectrum of anecdotes,viewpoints and perspectives from all over the country, which can hugely enhance the blog itself. And, from what I’ve seen, they sometimes inspire blog topics. Please keep them.

#147 Freedom First on 08.16.17 at 9:09 pm

#103 Long-Time Lurker

Yes. I agree and vote with Long-Time Lurker.
…………………………………………………………….

Also, about me, Freedom First. To know me is to love me.

Unless, of course, you don’t like Boomers, are anti-white middle aged men, or are a SJW, Feminazi, manjina, white knight, or are simply against heterosexual men who love women, but live alone and have had vasectomies to avoid being divorce raped and losing all his assets and his children, being overwhemingly court backed.

All while being shamed by the perverts for not manning up in today’s society and assuming responsibility to be f’d over by a society offering men no defense. KMA!

This is but a small description of how I have been treated here. But I love this blog and I do not require any “safe places”, which seem to be in vogue in today’s PC world.

I shive a git!

#1
Freedom First
Master of Freedomonics
Its my life

#148 Gravy Train on 08.16.17 at 9:22 pm

“Coffee is my morning wine.”

“Life is what happens between coffee and wine.”

“Coffee—because bad mornings deserve a second chance.”

“After I drink coffee, I show my empty mug to the IT guy and say I’ve successfully installed Java.”

“Coffee is a liquid hug for your brain.”

“Coffee—my hot friend I was telling you about.”

“Coffee is my favourite co-worker.”

“Coffee gives me unrealistic expectations of productivity.”

“Stressed, blessed, well-dressed, and coffee-obsessed.”

“Coffee. Chaos. Wine. Bed. Repeat.”

“Recipe for iced coffee: 1) Have kids 2) Make coffee 3) Forget you made coffee 4) Drink it cold.”

“Coffee (n.) : break fluid : survival juice : liquid optimism : an attitude adjustment in a mug : the person upon whom one coughs.”

#149 Penny Henny on 08.16.17 at 9:22 pm

for all those who care to know
=here in south centeral Etobicoke prices are down 20-25% from peak but still up about 5-10 yoy

#150 genbizx on 08.16.17 at 9:22 pm

great blog…appreciate the time and effort you put into keeping it rolling week after week.

if we had to register it might eliminate the really stupid behaviour…

kind of refreshing to have a bit of freedom to post what might be controversial opinions though..(i’m not talking obvious racist remarks etc.) .i think one of the nice things about the comment space, and what attracts many posters, is that the pc police don’t bully everyone around like they do most places on the internet. again i don’t mean imbecilic rants… just freedom to state ones own opinion and not whatever the current mainstream groupthink happens to be.

the need to moderate so many comments seems to be a huge task…not sure if the various software solutions are good or not…it would be nice to more easily reply to individuals as that might provide group moderation of sorts and facilitate more useful discussions but that might be opening up a whole new level of headache.

mostly i like it the way it is…thank you for the good info

#151 mike from mtl on 08.16.17 at 9:23 pm

Just as with Youboob, the (video) content is great and all, but more often than not perusing the comments is a glimpse in the intellect of humanity.

On a more serious note, it’s one of the few canaukstan finance specific comments section compared with say grope and fail. Always interesting to me what is happening in other parts.

#152 IHCTD9 on 08.16.17 at 9:24 pm

I think it would be tough to improve too much and whatever you might stand to gain will come with some new headache.

Getting some moderators to help is a good idea, I am on a few automotive forums some of which have millions of posts; and all of them have several moderators on duty.

I like the anonymity, it keeps things real. It also allows free fire douchebaggery unfortunately. I would find a comments section full of self censored posts pretty boring compared to what we have here now. I want to hear all about your dumbass brother in law that just bought a condo! (Don’t do it Devon!).

#153 Dissident on 08.16.17 at 9:34 pm

Garth, thanks to your snarky and informative blog, I got a big compliment on the FB group that is full of RE “shysters”, lol.

“I have to tell you I read your commentary on the —- forum and you’re bang-on.
are you by chance a realtor?”

Don’t I feel like a pro! :)

Cheers.

#154 Debtslavecreator on 08.16.17 at 9:36 pm

B20 training webinar starts next week
Seems like the powers that be expect B20 to be implemented soon
Word is it will kick in in October
Wow

#155 suburban coyote and pup on 08.16.17 at 9:36 pm

I would miss the comments and the pithy tongue lashing of Garth. Perhaps charge subscription fee (you deserve it for all the hard work and excellent writing) If you don’t want to monetize it perhaps a charitable donation. And no mercy to cyber threats…. ban and prosecute if that is possible.

Onf52

#156 Smoking Man on 08.16.17 at 9:36 pm

Wow see I made the front cover again

I sould get a monthly column on here I would behave. Lol.

Rolling into Atlantic City some time between now and Saturday morning.

Expect an epic parascope hammered truthfull prospective post on something
@SmokingMan for the fun.

#157 NoName on 08.16.17 at 9:38 pm

If comment section dies, so does my chances of having beer with flop. That alone should merit keeping it, in my not so humble opinion.

Charge a fee for access to comment section. Not guarantee that will get rid of bad stuff but it will probably decrease it, and collected funds could be put to use, i am sure that there is some animal shelter somewhere that could use some help.

#158 ALFRED E. NEUMAN on 08.16.17 at 9:41 pm

Garth, some time ago, someone posted the suggestion that we (the readers) should have the ability to “rate” a posting .. thumbs up, thumbs down, assign a number .. whatever.

I recall at the time kinda liking the idea. Cause if we could do that, we’d become a “posting jury” of sorts.

And instead of you having to do the dirty doleful deeds, we’d do it and be your ‘blog’s governing/policing body’.

So who would the ‘lamentably lost & bold baffoons’ threaten then? Your blog-dogs-mob?? Really???

“Ha. Go ahead, make our day”.

#159 Interstellar Old Yeller on 08.16.17 at 9:42 pm

Why not try the simplest, most incremental change? Have someone (daily or sporadically) screen out the worst garbage before you see it (threats, hate speech, indecent), so you can be galled and frustrated only by the dumb and misguided comments. ;) Knowing you read every comment and that, if you’re going to respond it will be when the comment is published, does maintain a sense of connection between the readers and you, but that can certainly be sacrificed if the aggravation and time commitment is becoming unreasonable.

Threaded comments would be a nice feature. I shun just about all social media so would strongly prefer not having to register via Facebook, etc.

(On a separate note, I know two families who bought near the Apr 30 peak mentioned. I could easily imagine the message from “Anna” to be from one of them. :( I feel bad for these friends and hope buying at the peak doesn’t ruin them.)

#160 Surinder on 08.16.17 at 9:43 pm

So much racism these days!!!

Will anyone here be accepting and sponsoring Haitian asylum seekers in your homes? If not, why not? Maybe racism has something to do with it.

Please advise.

#161 Leo Trollstoy on 08.16.17 at 9:43 pm

I like the comment section as it is. There’s nothing like having a cup of joe and scrolling through the comments from top to bottom (or vice versa; makes no difference). Personally I would hate if it was threaded.

Not sure how moderation would work. It only gets worse as the popularity increases.

#162 Leo Trollstoy on 08.16.17 at 9:44 pm

Forget the spell/grammar check. That will kill the life of this blog

#163 Fred on 08.16.17 at 9:52 pm

Suggestion: ppl have to register using a credit card and use their first name as seen onvtbe card. Charge an initial $1 “processing” fee and if u want, donate the proceeds to an animal hospital. Now they can use comment but their names will be listed…..and dogs get treats

#164 Wrk.dover on 08.16.17 at 9:55 pm

As a guy that has only held down any one job exactly long enough to get on Pogey, six times in forty four years, I see a lot of commitment here on your part Buddy.

This thing is now bigger than you! Like it or not, a succession plan needs to be in place. Then you can slip and slide at will.

I peruse Ponzi World, Reddit shitty car mods and Reddit just rolled into the shop, daily as well as bring a trailer, weekly, but this here is my only comment place, as I feel a need to express the view of life from my entity, to complete the big picture in your national online community assessing facts for general knowledge.

You are by leaps and bounds, the smart one with the best writing skills, but the commentor’s that use one name, are a healthy entity to be proud of having gathered in to a contributing group think network.

Cool cool runnings.

#165 TypicalLurker on 08.16.17 at 9:55 pm

When you do decide to kill the comments (c’mon, it’s a when not if), please just give us some warning so that we can say goodbye to others that we only know here.
Thanks (for everything)

#166 Sean on 08.16.17 at 9:56 pm

Use something like Disqus. Easy to setup. Easy to use a social account to leave a comment. People should be accountable for shit they say online.. it’s just as real as yelling at someone in the street.

#167 Dan on 08.16.17 at 9:57 pm

Garth, I come to read your posts and those of your partners. The comments on this site are mostly retarded and worthless. My vote is to disable the comments.

#168 45north on 08.16.17 at 9:58 pm

Should comments be allowed only from people who register, or would that stifle free speech? Should there be comments at all? Should they be better organized so people can respond directly to others?

congratulations for hanging in Garth. Here’s my comment from yesterday: It’s très ironique that this radical and deep change in the domestic economy proceeds without comment or fanfare.

This blog is your rebellion – your rebellion from the newspaper industry which today remains silent in the face of this radical change and your rebellion from the political parties who too are silent.

I’m willing to help. Personally I would register and I would pay.

#169 learningfromyou on 08.16.17 at 9:58 pm

Thank Garth for this post and the whole history of them.

Two facts I found out

-Sometimes you forget that this blog belongs to you

-Those offended are free to leave anytime.

#170 Dobermanduke on 08.16.17 at 10:00 pm

– no bookface, I would not join
– limit the characters
– comments have to be remotely on topic
– I’d sign up
– I’d pay a yearly registration fee
– all registration fees donated to a voted on charity

Just my 2 cents

#171 Ernie Lake on 08.16.17 at 10:06 pm

First time commentor- you asked!
Read your blog fairly regularly ( its like a car crash- can’t not look.)
Comments leave me cold- sure, its kinda interesting to see which way the wind is blowing out there in the herd, but mostly a waste of time.
Maybe you can just cherry pick a few interesting ones for us- turf 90%.
Would love more focus on investing and taxation.
Thanks for the time you spend putting this out there

#172 bigtowne on 08.16.17 at 10:11 pm

Having benefited greatly over the years from the greater fool financially and using the blog as my slice of the best of “what makes Canada really great and fun and better than anywhere” I am indebted and will now giveback:

Lately due to our family motoring trips I have used the hotel sites to scour that $40 motel 6 if and when possible enabling me to get an upgrade to an even more pricey room for $50. Can you imagine..no of course not as most of bloggers are wealthy folks with $2 million dollar domiciles.

In researching our rooms I read all 5,000 reviews and tonite I will share a few to encourage Garth to not loose spirit in his civic duty to finance and well Canada so this is for you Garth:

clean and friendly; would definitely go back
Son had to sleep on a sofabed would never go back
Everything is OK except toilet bowl is too low and difficult to use
Maybe more creamer on coffee

I defy Canada to find more humour anywhere than in hotel reviews. So laugh it up fellow comrades and pilgrims as we all march on to Transylvania.

#173 Sydneysider on 08.16.17 at 10:12 pm

Close down the comments section. Half a million posts about 2 or 3 topics? That is bigger than the chemistry literature.

Those who want to comment can go to the subreddit at URL posted by #1 Alex S.

#174 VICTORIA TEA PARTY on 08.16.17 at 10:12 pm

HISTORY GOES IGNORED

…at our collective peril. First the US and then Uncle Garth.

1– The Panicked States of America. What is the REAL reason behind the weekend riots in that former Confederate city?

Groups, both left and right, whaled away at each other. Aiding and abetting all that were the MSM networks, venal enemies of President Trump on an obsessive scale verging on mental illness.

I always thought the American news media were sober, reflective.

They’re not and they’re liars in the result. Which means they are accomplices to violence, in which the mob eventually takes over if things get truly out of cotnrol in the streets.

Mob violence has a terrible history: French Revolution; 1917 Bolshevik revolution; Nazi/Communist riots in 1918-1920 Germany; Depression-era left-wing riots in western Europe; Chinese Communist Revolution 1949; Cambodia 1970s. And more.

Mob rule is bad. Where and when will it end? Is the US on the brink of re-kindling its 19th Century Civil War where more than 600-thousand Americans were slaughtered by their fellow citizens?

I suspect the roots of this past weekend’s disturbances may be found in national guilt over the centuries of slavery in the US. This guilt is manifesting itself in the current focus on Confederate statues of war heroes, who fought on the “wrong side of history.” Lefties want to tear those down, while the right wingers want them to stay.

Tearing down any statues is a very dangerous idea. You ignore history at your peril.

Note we have similar history-erasing issues happening in Canada in order to placate some Indigenous peoples’ groups. Very dangerous.

GARTH THE GOOD

2 — As for those who’ve been going after Garth with threats, study your history too, you idiots.

Study the fact that economies run in cycles. Housing prices fluctuate because they do. In fact they have to. Good times and bad. Just like the tides and 60-thousand world-wide daily thunder storms that balance our atmosphere.

Studying economics gives you the tools to find economic freedom of movement and a good life, tools that Uncle Garth has been giving you for FREE for nearly a decade now.

So what do some of you do?

You threaten him.

Fools.

If you knew how much average private investors have to fork out to their “investment advisors” for the same advice Garth flogs for free, would freak you out!

So, get a life.

Study your history.

The study of history is a science. It gives you the power to see things as others cannot because they are ignorant.
History is your navigation tool for your entire life.

Garth, the goons should be leaving stage left soon.

They won’t be back.

#175 Happy Housing Crash Everyone! on 08.16.17 at 10:17 pm

The good side to total free speech is people are free to express their thoughts without worry of the thought police coming to get them. The downside is those dirty shyster realtors will continue to threaten you since you expose their lies with truth and realtors hate truth. Since none of us know what that is like for you you must do what’s best for your well-being. I hope you pick freedom of thought police.

#176 Happy Housing Crash Everyone! on 08.16.17 at 10:19 pm

No Loserbook. I don’t want to join loserbook

#177 Ex-Cowtown on 08.16.17 at 10:26 pm

Garth, I don’t always agree with what you say, but I respect and will defend you’re right to say it.

Carry on.

#178 Nonplused on 08.16.17 at 10:33 pm

I think the comments section is fine as it is. 500,000 comments can’t be wrong and if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. But it’s your blog so change it as you see fit especially if it reduces your workload.

#179 blah on 08.16.17 at 10:34 pm

+1 for the upvote/downvote sytstem

#180 Kevin BC on 08.16.17 at 10:38 pm

Please install Disqus or some better commenting system. 5% are good comments, the rest are terrible. I want to just read the good comments if possible, and have the enabled by voting up and down through registered users.

Thanks!

#181 shy to comment on 08.16.17 at 10:41 pm

I enjoy reading the Blog. It’s entertaining and educational. Only on occasion do I read the comments. Seems there are always a few rotten apples in any bushel. Hope you continue the Blog. Definitely dump nasty, hateful comments.

#182 paulo on 08.16.17 at 10:45 pm

Roll Call:

AWOL: Happy housing crash dude!

#183 JGL on 08.16.17 at 10:45 pm

Get rid of the comments, and keep including exchanges with your audience in your posts. Most comments bring little value. Worse, they can make the reader leave on a sour note. You can engage your readers more constructively by featuring insightful emails you receive and responding to them in the post. With the caveat that I don’t run a blog and receive correspondence, I think there’s a higher psychological barrier to entry to writing emails that works in the favour of better people. At least you can block addresses and put your spam filter to good use.

For a longer rationale, you may wish to read James Fallows’ argument for not having a comments section on his blog on The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2010/12/on-comments-and-community-a-new-plan/68392/

#184 Penny Henny on 08.16.17 at 10:47 pm

Garth admit it! You are addicted to this blog and the attention it brings you.
My advice is to kill the addiction slowly, too quick and you will be back in a North York minute

#185 Tommydouglas on 08.16.17 at 10:48 pm

Daily reader, seldom poster. I can’t believe how much work you put in. Perhaps backing off the posts to Monday – Thursday, with the Porsche drivers on Friday, and no stat holidays would help. The comments section is a commendable feature, maybe cap it at 50(?) a day?

Whatever is decided I’m sure I won’t lose sleep over it. Thanks for all your hard work.

#186 Oakville68 on 08.16.17 at 10:57 pm

I enjoy reading your blog , rarely miss a day. I would register if it would filter out the non financial/real estate comments. Dont know how you read every single comment (with 60% of them being ridiculous) you must self medicate ………

#187 Bytor the Snow Dog on 08.16.17 at 10:58 pm

Garth, you really must be having doubts…..trolling for suckups twice in one week!

Reiterating what I said last time, there can be no doubt that the comments section adds value to the blog. Facebook is for losers, and it doesn’t really verify one’s identity anyway as it’s easy to set up a fake account.

All methods, save and accept for account activation/verification by credit card are absolutely easily defeatable.

Keep the anonymity. Like I said before, I will volunteer to take some of the moderation load and I ‘m sure others will too. Vet if you like until you get someone you trust.

This blog is a valuable resource and educational tool. Comments and all. And it’s one of the few that’s uniquely Canadian.

#188 Lobster Man on 08.16.17 at 10:58 pm

Garth,

Leave it “as is, where is”.

LM

#189 alienated on 08.16.17 at 11:08 pm

This could be a good time for the aliens to reveal themselves.

We could all love each other so easily and hate them.

It could last for a whole week maybe.

#190 Two-thirds on 08.16.17 at 11:10 pm

Daily, long-time reader and infrequent poster.

My opinion is to make changes to the comment section, but not to eliminate it altogether. Aside from adding the community element and diversity of opinions, shutting it down would mean the bad guys won. United we stand.

As much as this blog is a valuable resource for its pathetic followers (badge of honor), you cannot keep moderating by hand, Garth. It seems that this is taking a toll on you and no one here wants to encourage that.

So, options? I support the ability to vote comments up or down and the functionality to respond to comments in a thread format. If registration is a *technical requirement*, so be it, but please, no Fazeb00k! Many well-meaning/behaved blog dogs would cease to comment altogether if big brother started watching and monetizing our discussions, not to mention the possibility of ads and auto-recommendations. No thanks.

I do not think registration would be a sufficient deterrent to determined jerks… How hard is to create fake email address or social media profiles?

A no-tech alternative would be to limit commenting to x days per week; this would give you some “days off” and the scarcity may force readers to provide higher quality comments and thro the trolls off the scent. You could give it a try and have a poll afterward to gauge reactions from the peanut gallery.

As always: thanks for all the years fighting the good fight. It has been worth it and appreciated, more than you know!

#191 dax on 08.16.17 at 11:15 pm

I’m one of the silent 99% who never leave comments. This site is the only one that I follow religiously, day after day. The insights and the humor keep me coming back time and again. Keep going with this amazing weblog.

#192 tomohawk52 on 08.16.17 at 11:20 pm

Perhaps charge a small subscription service to post, but not read. Use it to hire someone to moderate the comments. If you make a profit, and don’t want to keep it, donate it to a charity of your choice.

#193 Sean on 08.16.17 at 11:23 pm

Garth, the blog is great, but the comments are essential. You are irreverent, unorthodox… even offensive? Naturally, so are many of your readers. In a world descending into bland, empty platitudes of mind numbing groupthink, the diverse opinions of the drunks and misfits in the comments section…….. go good with scotch…. carry on!

#194 Entrepreneur on 08.16.17 at 11:25 pm

#143 Deplorable Dude on Freeland and NAFTA…I have been watching on the news but the report is brief so will google it for further details.

I think people are blind to not realize what is going on. Break down what a leader says and is it to a certain group of people? A leader has to be careful, very careful, of trade agreements and that is suitable for the people of that nation.

I have to say about Trump in that he is out there fighting for the people in that nation. He is fighting for jobs for them. Bwts, stop the texting.

#195 Hurtin' Albertan #2 on 08.16.17 at 11:37 pm

(with thanks to Corb Lund)
Garth, Please do not use FB. Like Hurtin’ Albertan #1, I will not join F’book just to be able to comment here.
I support the idea of a credit-card-based subscription to your blog, to discourage the mouth-foamers, and add accountability. Folks could post under a screen name, if they wished.
I really enjoy your blog – one consistent sane (and humorous) note in a cacophony of muddled thinking.
I like the idea of volunteer moderators – and I hereby volunteer, if only to correct spelling and grammar. But than, errors in spelling and grammar are part of the delightful idiosyncrasy of open comment.
Love the pics. Love the individual stories and reports.
Take good care.

#196 waiting on the westcoast on 08.16.17 at 11:40 pm

Hey Garth – still loving the blog and it has been a long ride for me!

For me, my vote would be:

1. Small paid subscription / dedicated ID (something small like $5 / year). You could even give people the ability to use it free for the first 3 months to get them addicted… ;-)

2. I don’t like the idea of fb / Google / etc but I will do it if that is what you decide. I have been open about my circumstances in my anonymity here in the past and would prefer that others not know who I am in the “real world”

3. Threaded discussions – please!

4. I would have agreed to up/down vote until I read another poster noting that bad actors will work together to up vote their excrement.

Other than that, it’s been great. Thanks for your Herculean effort here (should that be capitalized, where is “reply to…” when you need him???).

I, too, am willing to offer a day or two a month to help moderate (probably delegate to Mrs. Waiting… ;-)

#197 Palmateer on 08.16.17 at 11:41 pm

People may be interested to check out Smoking Man’s twitter account, where he has been busy pumping up support for Trump’s racist and pro-Nazi agenda.

https://twitter.com/SmokingMan

Time to delete racist ole Smokey.

#198 Dolce Vita on 08.16.17 at 11:44 pm

Do, what you think is best for the Blog and I thank you.

Agree on YVR & 416 RE, bar a Sept. miracle, the numbers are disheartening.

#199 joblo on 08.16.17 at 11:44 pm

HELPFUL REMINDERS FROM YOUR FORUM HOST, GARTH TURNER:
• All comments are held a short time for moderation before being published. Please submit only once!
• Respectful, wide-ranging discussion on the topic of the posting is encouraged, and will not be censored.
• Abusive, obscene or disrespectful commenters will not be published, and are subject to banning from this forum.
• Please avoid pasting the text of excessively long articles or news stories within your comment — provide a link to the item instead.

Garth don’t know how much clearer you could make it,
It’s your blog, do what you need to, some of us might get it.

#200 Alberta Guy on 08.16.17 at 11:45 pm

Keep it as is but take people up on their offers to help with the blog…or better yet, get those slack ass wife polishers to pull their weight..they should be ashamed as both are half your age…1 blog each every 2 weeks? pathetic!…get them blogging each 1 x per week and moderating 2 x per week…come on man…everyone needs a break!

#201 Mark Ortiz on 08.16.17 at 11:48 pm

Keep up the great work, Garth. Keep the comments and continue to ban the nut job xenophobes. No one needs to read their useless posts. I’d volunteer to moderate for a week a year.

#202 Spectacle on 08.16.17 at 11:51 pm

Hey #34 Name :

Great post about Soros and his paid thugs. They are holding ugly rally stuff in Vancouver BC.

Soros-Funded Group Gave $50K to Radical Group Antifa Who Provoked Berkeley Riot – TruthFeed

#203 Adam l on 08.17.17 at 12:00 am

Hi Garth!!. I’m not one of the one percenters, I read your blog daily, and my whole extended family benefits from you, but alas, I leave no comment. I’m also a hog rider, wear my glorious leathers, and am not one of the one percenters there either. I think the reddit style might just have substance, as there is ai moderation used there. I can’t imagine you’ve got time to read all this crap that gets posted. Use an automated system if you can, I’m sure a.tech geek could figure a super cheap automated system. I mean cars can drive themselves, why should you not employ a bit of tech here. Anyway, thanks for writing your blog, you saved my ads on few occasions with wife and real estate.. Keep er shiny side up, enjoy what’s left of riding season

#204 i.see.debt.people on 08.17.17 at 12:00 am

quote: Says a veteran realtor: “If you bought anytime since last Labour Day, you are probably worth less than you paid. That is no small number of people when you consider how busy the previous year was. The closer to April 30, of 2017 that you purchased, the deeper you are in the hole.”

Sh*t.. i didn’t see this one coming!

#205 Pete from St. Cesaire on 08.17.17 at 12:01 am

“over half million comments posted”, that speaks for itself. The comments section is an essential part of the blog. It’s through the comments that we garner a perspective on how the wider population understands things and how they comprehend what is unfolding in front of their eyes. I see it as a daily “State of the Dominion” discussion.

#206 Adam l on 08.17.17 at 12:05 am

Oh and if you dabble in the area, if sure love to know what you might think of agriculture land values. A mega billion industry, and the gov’t keeps telling farmers to borrow on more land, and there is no voice in the wilderness to guide our lost souls in this matter.. cheers mate

#207 Smartalox on 08.17.17 at 12:08 am

I have to say Garth, I find myself leaning toward deep-sixing the comments section.

I appreciate the Genesis of your free for all (within reason) commenting policy, given your previous commitment to to direct, digital, democracy, but the level of discussion has deteriorated in the last eight years that I’ve been a reader, and a poster.

But while us blog dogs might have a right of free speech, you are under no obligation to provide us with a forum, gratis, complete with your own personal efforts at moderation.

They call it free speech, but mostly you get what you pay for.

Nix the comments section Garth, but keep the blog, if you think you can manage it. Send the kranks and the sock puppets back to their echo chambers, where they can shout their shibboleths, and blame each other for their problems but leave the rest of us out of it.

Maybe you can take a letter or two, from time to time, but definitely take some time off. Maybe fade into semi-obscurity.

Why not cultivate a persona as the ‘Oracle of Belfountain’? To be sought out by dogs and their masters searching for macroeconomic advice with a side of dog treats and sprinkles, for those willing to make the trip, and genuflect.

Cheers.

#208 Contrarian Coyote on 08.17.17 at 12:08 am

#63 Deb on 08.16.17 at 6:44 pm
I typically just scan the comments section looking for those who share anecdotal stories of what’s happening in different parts of the country – have to scan through a lot of crap unfortunately.

===

This. I pretty much do the same. I enjoy the anecdotes about investing & real estate transactions and Flop’s updates especially. Don’t enjoy the political banter that adds nothing of value to the theme of the blog. I guess that’s why we have Ctrl + F.

#209 Pete from St. Cesaire on 08.17.17 at 12:08 am

Garth, as long as you are publishing this blog there will be a discussion of it. Whether it takes place on your site is up to you. But if you remove the comments section someone will simply start up a Greater Fool Fan Page on Facebook where people will link to and discuss your daily posting.

#210 For those about to flop... on 08.17.17 at 12:17 am

Another solid effort by the guys down the hall at howmuch…

M43BC

“This Map Shows Which U.S. States Have Recovered from Recession (and Which Haven’t)

The U.S. economy has finally regained its pre-recession levels of employment and Gross Domestic Product (GDP). What does that mean? More people are getting hired, and they’re spending their paychecks. That’s all good, but it’s no secret the economy has undergone an uneven recovery since the Great Recession. So how does the recovery stack up in different parts of the country? Check out this new visualization.”

Five Best States (by GDP, GDP change, and employment change)
1. California ($2,301B GDP, 3.2% GDP change, 2.8% empl. change)

2. Texas ($1,499B GDP, 3.9% GDP change, 2.5% empl. change)

3. Florida ($815B GDP, 2.4% GDP change, 2.9% empl. change)

4. Georgia ($461B GDP, 2.2% GDP change, 2.4% empl. change)

5. North Carolina ($450B GDP, 1.5% GDP change, 2.1% empl. change)

Five Worst States (by GDP, GDP change, and employment change)
1. Wyoming ($34B GDP, -1.0% GDP change, -0.2% empl. change)

2. Alaska ($47B GDP, 0.8% GDP change, 1.1% empl. change)

3. West Virginia ($67B GDP, -0.1% GDP change, -0.5% empl. change)

4. Louisiana ($206B GDP, -0.3% GDP change, .06% empl. change)

5. New Mexico ($86B GDP, 0.6% GDP change, 0.7% empl. change)

https://howmuch.net/articles/the-current-state-of-usa-economy

#211 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 12:20 am

The comments section is true Herdonomics.

You get the perspective from Antifa lefty loons and neo Nazis well they get deleted. For just cause.

Point is.

We live in a world covered in the smelly stench of bull shit. MSM leading the way.

I was on the floor laughing my brains our when MSM called Rebal Media a neo nazis site.

Guy who runs it. Esera is a Jewish zionist. His crime these days. Preching individualism and Capitalism.
The commies are unhinged.

The world is totaly upside down.

Thank you Trump. Never been so entertaind in my entire life. Watching stupid people go public so much.

#212 Pete from St. Cesaire on 08.17.17 at 12:25 am

CHADDYWACK: I’ll just say I’m racist against everyone and think everyone is guilty (hey, it worked for getting out of jury duty! ;)
—————————————————————
Now that’s a shameful comment. Jury duty is your duty if you want to live in a fair and democratic society. Why anyone would choose to have no say is beyond me.
Garth didn’t shun responsibility, he actually ran for parliament so that he could try to make the country a better place.

#213 Jon B on 08.17.17 at 12:25 am

How about $10 a comment. That’ll keep the rif raff at bay.

#214 Kootenay Ma on 08.17.17 at 12:36 am

I have read almost all your blogposts, Garth. I cannot say I have read every comment… but I have read so many, so many. I have learned much from your Comment section. I would miss it, sure. Myself, I like it just as it is. Filters certainly might be helpful, as you suggest.

Thanks to all, I come here every day, and would come for an ice cream Garth but it’s just too far from Kootenay Lake just now. Tho, sadly I sold my BMW R65LS some years ago, before the Ma part… wouldn’t I love to pull up for a visit on that sweet ride…

Cheers All – keep it coming

#215 Kootenay Ma on 08.17.17 at 12:39 am

PS was an ’85 R65LS … the colour of Lake Louise

#216 The dude on 08.17.17 at 12:43 am

If your ever cruising on your ride on the #1 stop by in Fort Langley. I’ve got a nice bottle of rum that has your name on it to help you on those cold dark blogging nights.

#217 Spartacus on 08.17.17 at 12:47 am

I’m thinking start a fund say, “Bandit Investment Trust”.
Next WE want to share a comment in your forum pay to play, say 6 bucks a month gives you access to the comments. “BIT” is invested and it grows. you can give us updates on BIT balanced investment growth. From time to time funds will be withdrawn as per Garth. Withdrawn money is used to educate. This completes the circle, you enable young Garth’s to carry the torch of fiduciary responsibility long after all us dogs have come and gone. Its the perfect legacy to honour all the wisdom you have already given us. You gonna run with the blog dogs you can’t write like a puppy. GARTH YOU CAN WRITE!

#218 Dee on 08.17.17 at 12:59 am

This blog is my favourite thing on the net – comments included. The comments have great stories about whats going on in different parts of the city/country. The comments are by no means a way to gauge “the herd”. To do that you have to read comments from places like blogto etc. They are the general public and dont delve into the nitty gritty of re. Btw they too now seem bearish on re

#219 Russ on 08.17.17 at 1:07 am

Hi Garth,

I have followed you for a long time, “2015 book and the update”, came to this blog looking for the “new” book GreaterFool and never left.

But we go back longer than that.
In the late 80s I phoned in to a Vancouver radio (probably CKNW) show to talk finance with a dude. I had a just paid my 28,000 mortgage and wanted to invest my 20,000 dollars savings into Nanaimo real estate and become a landlord like my co-workers were doing.

You said, “WTF mate!… or equivalent in 80s speak. Not all eggs in one basket, yada yada.”

Anyhow, I got an advisor, as advised, and played with yachts instead of rentals. 30 years later, the wife & I have had many cruises, never unplugged a toilet one of us didn’t use and are ready for the next phase o’ life, with a 7 fig liquid buffer.

Thanks again and please don’t change a thing with the blog.

If you make it mobile friendly it will get plugged with shit as the phone people punch in every little thought when they have it.
If you make it log-in style, I will still read everything I can without a log-in.

You have something unique here. Please hang on as long as you can.
And when it’s time to go, we understand.

Cheers, Russ

#220 Susan M. on 08.17.17 at 1:25 am

Usually I skim the comments, trying to find the gems and the incisive commentary. However, Garth, you probably share the burn out that Russell Wangersky (at the Telegram newspaper, St. John’s) described in an issue of the Walrus (https://thewalrus.ca/me-against-the-troll-army/).
You’re the one who has to wade through every day’s ‘toxic playpen’ as Mr. Wangersky called moderating the comments section. Is it worth the candle? Burnout could easily detract from the informed insights that so many readers look for in your blog.
In my opinion, I think the lunatic fringe who troll here don’t contribute to any useful discourse so what is the cost to you? The blog can stand alone with no commentary. And you can be less stressed, which has to be more important than allowing the sewer people ruin your peace of mind.

#221 Bob Dog on 08.17.17 at 1:49 am

As someone who has been in the software dev business for almost 30 years, here is step 1.

Login with Facebook
Login with Twitter
Login with Google

The internet is not free speech when it’s anonymous speech.

#222 Dragonslayer on 08.17.17 at 1:51 am

Really enjoy the blog and even the comments. So thanks
for your efforts. Much appreciated.
Agree there are a few jerks that cast a negative pall
by being abusive, racist or bullying.
Suggest you implement a two strikes – you’re out rule. ie. you get one warning and if it happens again banned from the site, period, and for good. Should weed out most of the idiots and make your life easier.

#223 DON on 08.17.17 at 2:36 am

#187 Bytor the Snow Dog on 08.16.17 at 10:58 pm

Garth, you really must be having doubts…..trolling for suckups twice in one week!

Reiterating what I said last time, there can be no doubt that the comments section adds value to the blog. Facebook is for losers, and it doesn’t really verify one’s identity anyway as it’s easy to set up a fake account.

All methods, save and accept for account activation/verification by credit card are absolutely easily defeatable.

Keep the anonymity. Like I said before, I will volunteer to take some of the moderation load and I ‘m sure others will too. Vet if you like until you get someone you trust.

This blog is a valuable resource and educational tool. Comments and all. And it’s one of the few that’s uniquely Canadian.
**************

Nicely stated. I had the same feeling.

I will volunteer to moderate if that is the root taken and if I am proven worthy.

#224 Jay (not that one) on 08.17.17 at 4:09 am

Reading the posts from 2005 is amazing. Almost word for word identical to Canada in 2015. Best post was someone going “you need to find a greater fool”.

We’ve seen bubble after bubble after bubble this century. How we can’t recognise them at this point is confusing.

#225 Carlyle on 08.17.17 at 4:30 am

Leave the blog as is. The comments section is a part of what makes this place special.

Personally I’ve abandoned all news sites that killed their comments section.

#226 bdwy sktrn on 08.17.17 at 4:56 am

Simply the VERY VERY BEST/SMARTEST: BLOG/DISCUSSION/FINANINCAL EDUCATION/ENTERTAINMENT/FUN place online anywhere.

A 10^6 thanks to the big G-Man. You made a very big thing happen.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not kill the comments. PLEASE.

(but i don’t think you will because you must LOVE them as much as I do to do what you have done – you must be a fast-ass reader though, it takes me the better/best part of my day to get thru them all)

Open is best. Threaded could work. automation can handle most of it but of course you knew that years ago.

whatever the form , just keep them, please.

quit your day job if need be! (us dogs will cover your bills as long as this pathetic url is alive. charge any admission you want, I and many others will pay so fast your head will spin)

I suspect that some form of this blog/conversation will continue to exist even after genx has died out and the millennials are old and grey and finally have all the jobs, homes and cash (only 50 more years or so, hang in there you moisters)

So many GREAT posters too.

even dog tips!!! here’s mine – the guy downstairs had a burmeese mountain, he was the only dog i ever knew who was truly happy to sleep at home, alone, all day.

thx for all the LOL’s from so many, turnernation comes to mind among others.

and if the flopper picks a fraser/main st place on a weeknight and chooses a few local blog dogs (both bull and bear ok, but no RE agents or HHCE, maybe crowdedelevator if they have a VERY good HVAC system), then i’m buying the beers. we need to know if you speak with an aussie accent?!?

and to all the kind folks who drooped in tonite to mention that they never read the comments, and suggest they be killed, do you also stop into the local church/pub/rink to loudly announce that you don’t pray/drink/play etc ??? pls go away. you added nothing.

free speech/both sides/questioning/learning/knowing – http://www.greaterfool.ca has it all

#227 JimmyTwoTeeth on 08.17.17 at 5:03 am

As a reader, filtering through the smut and trash comments is actually painstakingly awkward.

I realise many commenters derive enjoyment from anonymously posting drivel and contentious diatribe, but others like myself look to the comments to find additional informative gold.

If I were to guess, maybe 20% of your commenters are interested in providing topical value (other than attempts at providing ‘entertainment’) for others.

If you require registration, you will obviously lose commenters, but I would argue you increase the value of the site. Particularly as you’re transitioning towards a financial business, it would seem.

Definitely require signups. Preferably via something like Facebook/Twitter so comments are attached to real people’s profiles. The quality of content will surely be improved.

#228 ANON on 08.17.17 at 6:02 am

Then came hormones, moisters, house lust, wrinklies, [email protected], thirsty underwear, FOMO and so much more.

I remember BigD, also. Seems to have slipped away from the conversation, but with the latest loss of value which is sneaky and does not want to be found despite the efforts, the advice to sit in short bonds and ditch debt, maybe it is time to bring ol’D back in the conversation? :)

#229 lost in space on 08.17.17 at 6:02 am

I would add a voting system to upvote the best comments. Few people want to dig through the comments

-or-

You highlight the best comments

#230 Al Whyley on 08.17.17 at 6:28 am

I don’t know if I’m a typical reader or not but I never bother with the comments. I come to the blog to read what you have to say, not what the great unwashed (that’s me too) have to say about what you have to say. This is the first comment string I’ve looked at, and only as it scrolled by so I could get to the comment box.
I noticed someone said “kill the comments.” If they present a real problem for you, especially in the personal security department, snuff ’em.

#231 Palmateer on 08.17.17 at 6:38 am

If people could just remain civil it would help. It is unnerving though how many here support Trudeau’s racist agenda.

#232 TheoryAndPractice on 08.17.17 at 6:51 am

The blog is very good as it is and very informative including comments, even though it may not be applied to all of them.

Garth, let the automation do initial leg work for you, as suggested in many comments above. (but no FB etc please).

Moreover, allowing users to be able to vote on the comments (thumbs-up or thumbs-down) would be self moderating, good ones will go up. Put the blame on the readers :).

Top 3 and bottom 3 would be nice to see :). So bottom 3 would be informative anonymous reply for the one who wrote it…

Please never let a third party like FB etc, control your borders.

and lastly Thank you !

#233 Charles on 08.17.17 at 6:58 am

Keep the blog it’s keeping me sane. I think you should add login for comments, use Facebook or Google for login. Happy to help moderate comments.

#234 ANTIFA authentication on 08.17.17 at 7:27 am

Keep it anonymous at least until the masked Antifa thug (alt left?) members need to wear photo-id while participating in violent rampage against fundamental democratic institutions.

#235 MF on 08.17.17 at 7:51 am

Keep it just the way it is. Tons of good discussion here. If you can’t find any, you are not looking.

MF

#236 Steve on 08.17.17 at 8:09 am

Long time GFblog reader. I can probably count on one hand how many times i have commented. I say keep the comments. I enjoy reading them. Some are insightful and I have actually learned a thing or two from them. Please do not use Facebook or other social media.

#237 Aaron on 08.17.17 at 8:19 am

Any evidence to show that people (other than you) actually read the comments?

#238 Asterix1 on 08.17.17 at 8:32 am

TITLE: You’ll need six figures to buy almost any GTA home, $200,000 a year for the average detached Toronto house, report says
As the cost of Toronto-area housing rises, so do the financing challenges for young adults.”

https://www.thestar.com/business/real_estate/2017/08/17/youll-need-six-figures-to-buy-almost-any-gta-home-200000-a-year-for-the-average-detached-toronto-house-report-says.html
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You ain’t seen nothing yet! Wait until they bring in the 2% stress test on uninsured mortgages! Even less potential buyers, nice price drops coming your way for the next little while.

#239 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 8:37 am

197 Palmateer on 08.16.17 at 11:41 pm
People may be interested to check out Smoking Man’s twitter account, where he has been busy pumping up support for Trump’s racist and pro-Nazi agenda.

https://twitter.com/SmokingMan

Time to delete racist ole Smokey

Trump is not a rasist nor am I you MSM baffoon.

Go buy some Toronto Real Estate. Same MSM painting Trump as a rasist is also saying toronto re is at the bottom time to buy.

#240 Honest Realtor on 08.17.17 at 8:40 am

Deleting all comments by anti-Semitic psychopaths who wish harm and suffering upon people so explicitly would be a great start.

#241 maxx on 08.17.17 at 8:51 am

None of the dawgs sees the daily quagmire of filth that you have Garth. I’m sure that people can overdose on that crap too.

My first consideration would be Dorothy. She is the love of your life and I know that you know she deserves ultimate protection. She is no doubt a very strong human being, but perhaps this priceless flame is even more reason an eye to her well-being should be on 24/7. But, I’m certain that you’re already doing that.

We don’t always feel things wearing us down in real time. At any rate, you’re both wise and would know if and when it’s time to pull the plug. Perhaps there are easier means to moderate the blog, but the haters have been here since the beginning of time and will probably always be.

You’ll just use other means to rock your tremendously worthwhile investment business.

If you did end the blog, it would be missed like no other. And you’re right: we are addicted to it, dog pics, wisdom, spirited commentary, humour and most of all – you.

Be safe.

#242 2 Cents Canadian on 08.17.17 at 8:58 am

What would Oprah do?
You get a great thing going here. Real life street economics explained in a way that wakes people up and teaches in (sorta) layman terms. Take this thing up a notch …. actually many notches. Teach the old and the young about money and finances and planning. And how the world really works. Tie in with Zoomer magazine (for the old) , people like Dr Karyn (in TO who does and amazing job inspiring lost teens). And similar people. Have an office with people to run it. You’re generating lots of interest (eyeballs) …. sponsors would come.
If there’s one thing I learn from the comments section it’s that more than ever (with all the fake news and propaganda) that people are lost and confused.
You have the “stuff” to become the voice of reality towards money matters towards the masses.

#243 2 Cents Canadian on 08.17.17 at 9:06 am

…… a few concerns thiugh ….. smart money advice pokes at the belly of big business (anti-sales) ……. and the biggest question …… what would a world be like where everyone was making intelligent money decisions?

#244 michael on 08.17.17 at 9:11 am

Hi Garth, I find your blog informative and amusing but seldom bother to wade through the comments. If you choose life balance over the hassle and kill the comments section I wouldn’t blame you a bit and it won’t affect my enjoyment of your writing.
KUTGW

#245 Victor V on 08.17.17 at 9:15 am

This pathetic blog is your brand. Don’t change a thing.

#246 IHCTD9 on 08.17.17 at 9:32 am

#239 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 8:37 am

197 Palmateer on 08.16.17 at 11:41 pm

People may be interested to check out Smoking Man’s twitter account, where he has been busy pumping up support for Trump’s racist and pro-Nazi agenda.

https://twitter.com/SmokingMan

Time to delete racist ole Smokey

Trump is not a rasist nor am I you MSM baffoon.

Go buy some Toronto Real Estate. Same MSM painting Trump as a rasist is also saying toronto re is at the bottom time to buy.
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Here’s a good example as to why anonymity is a good thing.

SM has chosen to not remain completely anonymous on the web, – and what happens? Douchebags like Palmateer who are on a different political page post his activities trying to make SM look bad.

I like my anonymity almost explicitly because of blockhead idiots like Palmateer who just can’t live and let live.

Palmateer: Hopefully there is a large chrome grill emblazoned with “Freightliner” headed in your direction very soon. The world can do without asshats like you.

#247 Keith in Calgary on 08.17.17 at 9:36 am

There is nothing wrong with what you have now. I assume you track IP addresses with each comment ?

Whatever you do DO NOT USE FACEBOOK or GOOGLE or DISQUS………….I will not say it again for effect, and I hope you get the message.

#248 Bytor the Snow Dog on 08.17.17 at 9:38 am

#231 Palmateer on 08.17.17 at 6:38 am
If people could just remain civil it would help. It is unnerving though how many here support Trudeau’s racist agenda.
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Interesting…

#249 Ole Doberman on 08.17.17 at 9:45 am

#170 Dobermanduke on 08.16.17 at 10:00 pm

– no bookface, I would not join
– limit the characters
– comments have to be remotely on topic
– I’d sign up
– I’d pay a yearly registration fee
– all registration fees donated to a voted on charity

Just my 2 cents
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Here’s the problem with yearly registration fees: although many people say they would pay many in the end don’t – this alone will lose Garth minimum 50% viewership.

Just ask Trader Dan, he use to have a free blog, and usually got 30-60 comments per article.

Then people gave him the bright idea that its so good he should charge – well he did and now his traffic is like 5-6 comments per article.

We are living in tight times, as we know, and people are not very giving or charitable these days.

Just read Armstrong’s article as to why revolutions break out – it’s always money/economics related.
As Garth has been saying here all along, when money gets tight we blame our problems on races – like Chinese in Vancouver.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/jennifer-lawrence-moves-to-center/

“This is what concerns me that as the economy gets worse and governments keep raising taxes exploiting people reducing their standard of living, tensions will rise. This is manifesting in White Supremacists who have not risen up in mass since the 1960s and now we have armed leftist militia groups cheering class warfare. From the 1950 Maple Shade Township incident where Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was confronted by a bartender who refused to serve him and his friends, it will be 72 years when we reach 2022. This trend will continue to rise and it is being driven by the deteriorating economic landscape under the surface.”

#250 OttawaMike on 08.17.17 at 9:46 am

In other news Colonial Sanders declares deep fried chicken to be a delicious and nutritious food:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/millennials-property-dream-1.4250181

#251 Average Joe on 08.17.17 at 9:46 am

The man with the gold gets to decide what stays, what goes and/or what changes. That is neither good, nor bad. It is just a fact.

As for the comments section, my $0.05 – I fear $0.02 would be rounded down to nothing :) – follows:

Some comments are good, some are bad, some are ugly and some are just a bunch of incoherent rambling. The best comments include a nugget of wisdom and/or a link to a relevant posting elsewhere. The worst get deleted but given what stays most days, you can just imagine.

When viewed as a collective body of comments though, it is a whole other ball game. If you can make it through them, you get a sense of what the average joe is thinking, at street level.

Although economic fundamentals underpin any market, it is human psychology that drives it in one direction or another, and this place is as good as any, better than most, to keep a finger on the pulse.

#252 SilverSon on 08.17.17 at 10:00 am

#176 Happy Housing Crash Everyone! on 08.16.17 at 10:19 pm

Agreed 100%. Have never and will never sign up for Faceplant. It is a total waste of time and when I think about how many people are on it I am saddened to think how lame a world we live in. It’s a dumb web app that doesn’t really do anything for the betterment of humankind – it’s a total black hole of productivity.

Teaching people about how to be financially responsible to themselves is, of course, for the betterment of humankind so that’s where I think this blog has tremendous value even with no comments. I think the comments section is great to have and is generally constructive after the bad eggs are weeded out, but if Garth chooses to modify or eliminate it I would completely understand.

#253 SWL1976 on 08.17.17 at 10:01 am

Fantastic blog, and have always enjoyed the comments section as well

I say have people who wish to comment log in to take the anonymity away. That in itself should filter out most of the junk without taking away from those who wish to take some time to contribute to the conversation.

Sounds like a lot of work for someone though

#254 Victor V on 08.17.17 at 10:07 am

http://www.bnn.ca/pattie-lovett-reid-why-home-prices-have-continued-to-climb-1.832358

The slowdown now apparent in both B.C. and Ontario where provincial governments have put policies in place to take gently deflate the forming bubble appears to be working. Toronto Real Estate Board data released to realtors and viewed by BNN shows sales in the Greater Toronto area, for example, plunged 35 per cent in the first half of August​.

And finally, there is the knock-on effect. Given the rise in real estate prices due to lower rates, rising incomes and increased mortgage power, you can’t help but wonder what happens when one leg of this three legged stool reverses course.

In 2017, mortgage rates have begun creeping higher, home sales have slowed for four months while employment levels nationally have been holding steady the same can’t be said the for the leader of the pack of mortgage-borrowing power, Calgary, as the province still struggles with the energy downturn.

As the saying goes, “buyer beware” the real estate landscape is shifting.

#255 Johnny boy on 08.17.17 at 10:21 am

#239 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 8:37 am

197 Palmateer on 08.16.17 at 11:41 pm
People may be interested to check out Smoking Man’s twitter account, where he has been busy pumping up support for Trump’s racist and pro-Nazi agenda.

https://twitter.com/SmokingMan

Time to delete racist ole Smokey

Trump is not a rasist nor am I you MSM baffoon.

Go buy some Toronto Real Estate. Same MSM painting Trump as a rasist is also saying toronto re is at the bottom time to buy.
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Ok knucklehead your true colours show with your perpetually shaded support for Donald J Trump.
He is a supporter of the KKK, the white nationalist movement, and neo Nazis! Fact!
Don’t give me any of this bullshit MSN fake news crap, I have heard enough of this garbage from you and your undying support for this disaster of a president.
He does this by NOT, and I say NOT! disavowing them, by careful trickery of words or therefore the lack of words condemning them directly. You cannot whitewash his racism or hide behind it when he attempts to put both parties at the gatherings on the same level playing field by saying that some people there with the white supremacists march where good people. They are NOT the same. Reprobates like David Duke align themselves with Trump represent the worst and vilest of attitudes toward people who are not white. If you were a human being with any conscience at all and YOU were marching to protest the removal of a statue only and you looked around you to see everyone chanting white supremacist slogans, with Nazi flags you would have to give your head a shake and say truthfully is this what I stand for? I wouldn’t I would get to hell out of there ASAP. He is giving the Neo Nazis and white supremacists a green light to continue their disgusting agendas. There is NO place in this world for Nazis, the KKK and racist white supremacists or for that matter those who support them. My grandparents suffered under the Nazi regime during WW2 as they were deemed to be agents against the state under Mussolini and Hitler for their views on the mistreatment of Jews. My Grandfathers Company employed many Jewish people and he hid many of them from the Nazis. If my grandfather was here today he would call out Trump for the slick conniving racist supporter he is for NOT condemning the white supremacists and for NOT doing anything to stop them.
I went to your twit account to have a look and OMG you are really a whack job for re-tweeting some of this racist garbage, you should really be ashamed of yourself.

#256 2 more cents.... on 08.17.17 at 10:22 am

My 2 cents because you asked:

Many good ideas above on how to filter. I have nothing to add. If there are costs associated with the additional filtering, you could ask for donation. I’m sure the dogs would happily donate enough to cover these costs.

I mostly read the comments where you reply. I read the blog to learn but also to laugh. You are quite funny Garth and I appreciate it!

If I do read others, a thread would be helpful.

If you decided to stop the comments section, I would still read it every day and continue to recommend it to many.

I would also offer my time to assist with pre-filtering in order to avoid having you read the crap. However, I am intimidated by the time that may be required. Before I commit, can I ask you how much time you spend daily on the comments section?

Since more alcohol may be required, I am sending you an LCBO card (I’ve been wanting to do this for a while). Let’s see how many dogs will step up. To make it easier, here is the mailing address:

40 King Street West
Suite 5300
Toronto, Ontario
M5H 3Y2

#257 Yvrmickey on 08.17.17 at 10:22 am

I enjoy very much the comments discussing and debating the blog of the day . However , all the others relating to other non related topics should be edited out .

#258 Old Ron the Realtor on 08.17.17 at 10:41 am

#240 HONEST REALTOR.

If a comment targeting any minority slips through, you, and all of us have a duty to let the Mod(Garth) know about it immediately.

I haven’t been here all that long, and I probably only read 70% of the comments, but I have yet to see a comment with the content that you described in your post. Which leads me to believe that Garth is doing a pretty good job filtering out the garbage.

Comments sections both inform and reveal. They can and do offer new insights, and information. They also reveal some pretty half baked ideas. It is all grist for the mill, providing a rich texture and diverse narrative on the topic of the day. News organizations and Blogs that have abandoned the comment section are lesser for it.

#259 Victor V on 08.17.17 at 10:42 am

Toronto home buyers and sellers try to stay afloat in a rocky market

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/toronto/toronto-home-buyers-and-sellers-try-to-stay-afloat-in-a-rocky-market/article35999157/

In the midtown Toronto areas of Leaside and Davisville, the real estate market has been bouncing between optimism and despair like a yo-yo.

Patrick Rocca, a real estate agent with Bosley Real Estate Ltd., has concentrated much of his business on the tree-lined streets radiating out from Bayview and Eglinton Avenues. The mainly traditional detached houses of Leaside appeal to well-heeled families who want room for the kids to run around. Swimming pools and home ice rinks are not uncommon in the spacious backyards. The slightly smaller lots and houses of Davisville are a little more affordable, in most cases, and especially popular with younger couples pushing strollers.

But even in those stalwart family neighbourhoods, real estate deals can be hard to put together these days, says Mr. Rocca, who has been shocked by the market’s swings.

“You knew something was going to happen. It was mind-boggling. It was scary,” he says of the market’s unfettered rise in the spring and the Ontario government’s moves to tame it. “I knew something was going to happen – I just didn’t know how quickly it was going to stop.”

#260 Mike in Edm on 08.17.17 at 11:02 am

Garth, I love the comments section, but it would be great to (somehow) moderate it and get rid of all of the blatent off-topic garbage. Some of the ramblings on here makes me wonder if these people shouldn’t be in a mental institution (maybe they are?).

I visit this site daily to read your post, and to skim through the comments for real world anecdotal stories/opinions, etc of what is happening right now with the housing markets across Canada, or news that may affect said markets (ie interest rates, OFSI regs, etc).

Hearing about some knob rant about how he or she thinks 9/11 was a conspiracy or how their weekend went is a waste of my time and I’m sure most other readers’ time as well.

#261 paracho on 08.17.17 at 11:02 am

I was also sensing much of this in the Toronto and Vancouver areas. As prices kept appreciating, speculators turned into builders overnight and many bought one or two or more properties via HELOC, LOC and traditional mortgages. There are many underutilized units or empty units in the cities mentioned.
This is a major problem worldwide with many proiprties and a declining birth rate .
Paris is taking an extreme measure to curb this…there are virtually ghost towns in Spain from the last Real estate gold rush .( I saw it for myself )

#262 BC_Doc on 08.17.17 at 11:08 am

Hi Garth,
The task of moderating this blog seems onerous. If you can automate and/or delegate, that would leave more time for the most important things in your life, your wife Dorothy and your dog Bandit. 500k posts seems like a good moment to take a fresh look at this section of the blog. Thanks for keeping the blog going.
All the best,
BC Doc

#263 Wrk.dover on 08.17.17 at 11:09 am

Quite a few suggest a pay for view here.

That policy idea shut me out of reading David Stockman’s Contra Corner, since it’s implementation shortly before the Trump regime took power.

I have no idea if not reading anymore of that blog is a good thing or a bad thing. But I do know it is one less thing, in my sheltered life.

#264 n1tro on 08.17.17 at 11:09 am

Put your money where your mouth is.

Anyone who says the comments add no value to them can keep leeching Garth’s daily advice for free as your input is literally not relevant given the lack of any contribution. (Cue in the attack posts)

For the rest who sees this blog format as a unique community which has important core topics with comments drifting depending on the poster’s mood of the day or drink of the night….collect $10 from every registered anonymous poster.

For the people who like to comment and mix things up, when your words cost you your own money, not adhering to the blog’s rules should correct bad behaviors. Almost like training a dog I guess.

Every “delete” that Garth does on you, your balance goes down a $1. 10 deletes means no more posting for you!…Unless you cough up another $10.

If Garth is going to moderate this blog for free, posters need to be held accountable to the stuff they say. The $10 is a trivial fee to be apart of a community. I’m sure most people’s balance will stay the same throughout the year. At the end, the money collected can be put towards a BBQ at Bellfountain.

Money deducted for rule breaking or threats to Garth can go to his liquor fund. Which could be a lot between death threats and Smoking Man’s rants.

#265 Slim on 08.17.17 at 11:11 am

For those of us who don’t have much of a life, I think you should keep the blog and comment section the way it is. If it ain’t broke…

#266 Karma on 08.17.17 at 11:21 am

Too funny:
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/08/realtors-warn-toronto-housing-market-continues-collapse-everyone-one-day-afford-house/

#267 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 11:22 am

55 Johnny boy on 08.17.17 at 10:21 am
#239 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 8:37 am

197 Palmateer on 08.16.17 at 11:41 pm
People may be interested to check out Smoking Man’s twitter account, where he has been busy pumping up support for Trump’s racist and pro-Nazi agenda.

https://twitter.com/SmokingMan

Time to delete racist ole Smokey

Trump is not a rasist nor am I you MSM baffoon.

Go buy some Toronto Real Estate. Same MSM painting Trump as a rasist is also saying toronto re is at the bottom time to buy.
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Ok knucklehead your true colours show with your perpetually shaded support for Donald J Trump.
He is a supporter of the KKK, the white nationalist movement, and neo Nazis! Fact!
Don’t give me any of this bullshit MSN fake news crap, I have heard enough of this garbage from you and your undying support for this disaster of a president.
He does this by NOT, and I say NOT! disavowing them, by careful trickery of words or therefore the lack of words condemning them directly. You cannot whitewash his racism or hide behind it when he attempts to put both parties at the gatherings on the same level playing field by saying that some people there with the white supremacists march where good people. They are NOT the same. Reprobates like David Duke align themselves with Trump represent the worst and vilest of attitudes toward people who are not white. If you were a human being with any conscience at all and YOU were marching to protest the removal of a statue only and you looked around you to see everyone chanting white supremacist slogans, with Nazi flags you would have to give your head a shake and say truthfully is this what I stand for? I wouldn’t I would get to hell out of there ASAP. He is giving the Neo Nazis and white supremacists a green light to continue their disgusting agendas. There is NO place in this world for Nazis, the KKK and racist white supremacists or for that matter those who support them. My grandparents suffered under the Nazi regime during WW2 as they were deemed to be agents against the state under Mussolini and Hitler for their views on the mistreatment of Jews. My Grandfathers Company employed many Jewish people and he hid many of them from the Nazis. If my grandfather was here today he would call out Trump for the slick conniving racist supporter he is for NOT condemning the white supremacists and for NOT doing anything to stop them.
I went to your twit account to have a look and OMG you are really a whack job for re-tweeting some of this racist garbage, you should really be ashamed of yourself.
…..

I always thought that you where stupid. Your rant proves my theory.

#268 oopswediditagain on 08.17.17 at 11:23 am

….. and showing that realtors do worry about their clients. lol.

Credit to “local fool”

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/08/realtors-warn-toronto-housing-market-continues-collapse-everyone-one-day-afford-house/

#269 David Hawke on 08.17.17 at 11:23 am

Kia driving daily reader, infrequent commentator, multiple dog owner with an equal number of cats, retired to the tropics.

I see nothing wrong with having to register and use a real name to comment.

#270 cmccullo on 08.17.17 at 11:24 am

If the comments are turning you off writing the blog – ditch them. How about you take a little comment-free vacation. The sketchy commenters probably have short attention spans.

#271 Ian on 08.17.17 at 11:25 am

I would go for the up / down vote system, and maybe add in some ‘crowdsourced’ moderation to lighten the load for you.

Also happy to pay a fee! This blog rules. Love reading it every day. When Happy Housing posts I have a dopamine reaction in my brain.

#272 Darren on 08.17.17 at 11:33 am

I add a comment every few months, but rarely read them anymore so would not miss the comment section. Due to the latent frustration in the population I refer to social media as anti-social media.

The fact that you have moderated this site alone for a decade makes me wonder if you should be nominated for sainthood or fitted for a straight-jacket. Overall I’m a big fan of open discussion, but this comment section is clearly not a productive use of your time.

I’m curious what percentage of the comments are offensive, are we talking 2% or 15%?

#273 Phil on 08.17.17 at 11:57 am

“For homeowners who are considering listing soon, Mr. Rocca believes the first half of the fall market will be better than the second, as it is most years. But for those who can afford to wait, he thinks holding off until the spring will be a better bet. He’s not sure that prices will return to the level of March, 2017, he cautions, but there may be more potential buyers eager to buy than in the fall.”

In the Globe today.
This realtor works in the Davisville area.

He says one of his client bought a bungalow for 1.9M and was planning to sell it for a profit, but now it’s worth 1.6M.

#274 Dups on 08.17.17 at 12:03 pm

Do not change anything Garth!
There is a reason why we keep coming here. The blog is just fine the way it is. If you get tired of managing the comments, ask for help from people you trust. You three guys are like the old BBC trio of Top Gear. Garth is Jeremy, Doug is James, and Ryan is Hammond. Something like that, you get what i am saying.

#275 Drill Baby Drill on 08.17.17 at 12:07 pm

In the immortal words of John Belushi in Animal House “there is only one solution – drink heavily”

#276 BillB on 08.17.17 at 12:07 pm

Long time reader, first time commenter.

Personally, I’d support whatever you choose to do with the comments — from keeping them as-is to canning them entirely. I read (at least some of) the comments after maybe 20% of your posts, and find 80% of the former useless. Sometimes I find it worthwhile to trawl through comments looking for interesting or amusing ones, but often not.

Many thanks for your informative, entertaining blog!

#277 Catalyst on 08.17.17 at 12:09 pm

I wI’ll just say how I use the blog. I read daily and comment about once a month when I feel the urge to do so. My comments are larely to make a comment directly to you about something that peaked my interest or ask for more detail. I could live without the comment section yet I also enjoy sending the occasional message.

My 2c.

#278 LP on 08.17.17 at 12:16 pm

Hi Garth and dawgs

I’d really miss reading your daily post. At the end of a bad day it helps me to decompress to sit here and read what’s on your mind. As for the comments – well, a very few of the regular posters seem almost like friends much as the regular callers to the old Radio Noon (CBC) back in the 80s became “familiars”. Made me feel like if I were ever in trouble in their town I could call them up for help.

If you decide to call quits to the comments it would certainly be understandable. A steady diet of whining, mewling, ranting soon becomes what your mind dwells on full time. Who needs that? As just a reader I have to say that sometimes I feel the need to shower after reading the responses to some of your posts. Makes me want to rinse my mouth out with Jamieson’s. What must it be like for you??!!

#279 Ex Pat Canuck on 08.17.17 at 12:23 pm

So I would say why not kill the comments section entirely? TorStar did it, what, two years ago? The big news outlets in the states and indeed CBC allow comments only on selected stories…maybe you could compromise and only allow comments on Saturdays or Monday. Something like that…but something tells me you will keep the comments going regardless!

#280 I'm A Believer on 08.17.17 at 12:33 pm

Garth, your blog has been my daily read for years. Love it. It provides solid info and entertainment all in one. It’s good you allow blog dogs to post. It creates a virtual community of exchange. And when people post their real experiences it shows you are not making up stories.

So have you seen this? https://www.mississauga.com/news-story/7503813-luxury-lakeview-townhome-development-cancelled-buyers-frustrated/#.WZSkRZ5TlcY.facebook

#281 InvestorsFriend on 08.17.17 at 12:35 pm

Anti-Social Media

#272 Darren on 08.17.17 at 11:33 am said:

Due to the latent frustration in the population I refer to social media as anti-social media.

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That is SO true when it comes to people commenting on news stories and other people’s opinions. There has to be a strong correlation, less actual real social skills equals more posting and especially more bashing and arguing online. Much commenting online comes from the lunatic fringe. At least I hope they are just a fringe.

#282 Tazi Bnu on 08.17.17 at 12:43 pm

#49 conan on 08.16.17 at 6:21 pm
Trump Thoughts
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No one asked for them, and they’re way off topic.
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His councils are disbanding, Everyone quitting. So big problem there.
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Yes this is worrying. Isolating a legitimately elected president, will not stop conflicts, just increase them. Letting the president exist in his own echo chamber.
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Trump really blew it on his condemnation of the demonstrations in Virginia. He has given the impression that Nazis are ok, equal to the alt left, in terms of being bad.
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Nazis are not ok, but the militant left are not ok either. Both extremes are using fear, intimation, and violence against their opponents. Condemning one does not excuse the other. It’s not a competition to see who’s worse, we need both to stop.
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Ummm no. Nazi’s are scum, give them any kind of political foothold, and they will use violence to achieve their political aims. In fact, this alt left crowd was there to make sure no one forgets that Nazi’s are scum.
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Just like your alt left is willing to use violence repeatedly to achieve their political goals. They went there looking for a fight and for excuses to be “righteous.” They were not there to spread messages of love, which we need more of.
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I give Trump 6 months or less. Anyone want to bet sprinkles on that?
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A woman died in the recent violence, I’m glad you get enjoyment out of it with your wager of sprinkles. Did you get your inspiration from the Trading Places $1 bet. He’s not “Presidential material,” but he was elected and should have the respect of the office. This does not mean he shouldn’t be opposed in the means available to his opponents, which they’ve had their successes and failures too.
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About the blog comments. I love them warts and all.
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Back on topic. The comments are fine the way they are. A reply feature would be nice, but it’s up to Garth. I’m sure most of us would support whatever decision is made.

#283 IHCTD9 on 08.17.17 at 12:47 pm

#264 n1tro on 08.17.17 at 11:09 am
Put your money where your mouth is.
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I like this idea too hehe!

Another thing that just hit me which I like about the comments section are the posts by new immigrants to Canada. I like hearing their views on Canada and its big cities where most of them live. I like the comparisons to their country of origin – pretty revealing stuff for a born and raised Canadian like myself.

Where else can you hear opinion from all kinds of insiders, all walks of life, all kinds of millionaires, and even (at least) one Billionaire, all in one place?

I like the personal anecdotes, and I like hearing the views of those much older, and much younger than myself.

Garth has contacts, and more than just a few times we got the news before it was news here on the GF. Actually, we get it regularly. These are sometimes further discussed with more revelations dispensed from those that are connected and in the know via the comments section. Plenty of Garth’s blogs feature comments from the day before for various reasons – mostly because it was good/interesting info, sometimes the exact opposite. I think he even gets some of his daily dog pics from commenters.

I find the comments section actually creates a bit of an E-rapport between all of us, and our host Mr. T.

#284 Dolce Vita on 08.17.17 at 12:51 pm

#258 Old Ron the Realtor

You read a very calm person that has pretty much seen it all and has learned to take things in stride, and more importantly to me, is brutally honest whether to your disadvantage or not.

I think you may find a kindred spirit in Steve Saretsky out of Vancouver whom I follow on Twitter and it would seem to me, cut from the same cloth as you (not that I imagine you are hunting for one, but for the record, there still are some honest Realtors out there besides yourself).

Here is a recent interview he gave to CBC (move to the 5:20 mark, before that Conf. Brd. of Canada guy that did not say much really):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6I9UNFqPJY

He works for someone else, so he had to be careful, still was as honest as he could be. One day, this young man will have his own firm I expect.

#285 Dolce Vita on 08.17.17 at 1:15 pm

Zolo.ca quarter done. June, July to Aug. 17 LOWEST seasonal sales Qtr. vs. March, April to May 17 Qtr. HIGHEST seasonal sales time for Vancouver, Surrey, Burnaby, Richmond, Coquitlam, Langley and Delta (picked GVRD cities population > 100,000):

June 17 to Aug 17 Data

Property Type | Unit Sales | Total $ Sales [Avg. Price x Unit Sales]

Condo 1209 750,955,000
Townhome 502 387,721,000
Detached 616 900,000,000
Total 2327 2,038,676,000
Avg. Price [Total $/Total Units] = $876,096

Mar 17 to May 17 Data

Property Type | Unit Sales | Total $ Sales [Avg. PricexUnit Sales]

Condo 1627 996,115,000
Townhome 877 663,925,000
Detached 1493 2,466,800,000
Total 3997 4,126,840,000
Avg. Price [Total $/Total Units] = $1,032,484

% Total $ Sales drop Qtr/Qtr = -102.4
% Avg. Price Drop Qtr/Qtr = -17.9

Detached dragging market metrics and cooling clearly.

Condo and Townhome holding their own I think (low season vs. peak season sales).

Cross checked Zolo.ca Unit Sales for all cities with REBGV Listed vs. Sold and pretty much bang on.

Cannot check average prices as I am not a Realtor or have access to MLS; however, checked some Realtor postings of $Sales charts (e.g., Surrey Condos) and Zolo.ca numbers higher in June 17 to Aug 17 Qtr.

Definitely a cool down happening in YVR with bad metrics driven by Detached and of course, high vs. low season.

Disheartening.

#286 Dolce Vita on 08.17.17 at 1:19 pm

Prior post of GVRD RE data link to Excel file to see/download city by city data as well and verify on your own as to efficacy:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/grk7g4376vi6gcw/Zolo.ca%20RE%20Data%20May%2017%20to%20Aug%2017.xlsx?dl=0

#287 UncommonSense on 08.17.17 at 1:29 pm

Garth,

You’re just gonna have to make some tough financial decisions: spend less on polishing and buffing service for the Harley and invest some dollars in upgrading your blog with enforced registratoin for comments. Problem with zombie haters’ comments solved if you’re willing to re-direct some disposable cash flow for your blog dogs and your own mental health.

Highly recommended internet – network security service website attached.

Cheers.

#288 Barbarian on 08.17.17 at 1:47 pm

Garth, I have followed your blog for many years – I have enjoyed your posting as equally as those who leave comments. Some have shared valuable insight while others use the keyboard as their petty way to sound off against the world where if they stepped on a soapbox wouldn’t likely utter the same words.

People need to respect Garth’s blog – keep it interesting but keep it respectful (though doubtful that will happen). Garth, I think the time has come to pull the plug on the comment section. Things could deteriorate where all you have worked towards in providing people with facts and stats but become a place of contempt and hostility towards their fellow readers and of society in general. The World is changing in a hurry – to threaten the host or others is just wrong and it needs to stop!

#289 Asterix1 on 08.17.17 at 2:03 pm

#279 Ex Pat Canuck on 08.17.17 at 12:23 pm
So I would say why not kill the comments section entirely? TorStar did it, what, two years ago? The big news outlets in the states and indeed CBC allow comments only on selected stories…
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Toronto Star cut their comment board because the majority of comments had turned against their extreme editorial stance. It did not reflect the opinion of most readers, instead of firing their editorial board, they decided to fire their readers opinions.

CBC will only let people comment on a “cat stuck up a tree” type of article. Anything remotely interesting is a big NO.

All articles should be open for comments at the CBC, its paid for by the people of Canada. Their voices should be heard.

#290 Dolce Vita on 08.17.17 at 2:16 pm

Saw a prior link for 416 where a +$10 MM home listed for under $2 MM. So sad.

FLOP, sorry to steal your thunder here, but, some evidence that YVR Detached suffering (now that you have gone BIG PICTURE World Affairs on me, ;-) ).

YVR Detached similar to 416, not as bad, but bad still from My Realty Check (some eye opening list price drops today to me; list price increases = 245, list price drops = 661):

[Address not provided]
Vancouver, BC
$2,650,000 2017-05-02
$1,730,000 2017-05-08
$499,000 2017-07-24
Overall Change= -$ 2,151,000.00
Percent: -81.17

5690 Highbury Street, Vancouver
Jul 2: $5,380,000
Aug 16: $3,368,000
Change: – 2,012,000.00 -37%
e-valueBC = $3,626,000

16128 Morgan Creek Crescent South, Surrey
Apr 1: $2,488,000
Aug 16: $1,988,000
Change: – 500,000.00 -20%
e-valueBC = $1,794,000

7433 Government Road, Burnaby
Mar 1: $2,599,000
Aug 16: $2,368,000
Change: – 231,000.00 -9%
e-valueBC = $2,490,000
Purchased: 09/Nov/2015 for $1,900,000

3020 Plateau Boulevard, Coquitlam
Jul 4: $2,990,000
Aug 16: $2,499,000
Change: – 491,000.00 -16%
e-valueBC = $2,095,000
Purchased: 14/Sep/2014 for $1,277,000

11800 Mellis Drive, Richmond, BC, V6X 1M1
$2,480,000 2017-05-02
$2,380,000 2017-05-30
$2,280,000 2017-06-27
Overall Change= -$ 200,000.00 -8.06
e-valueBC = $1,831,000

AND, SOME EQUAL OPPORTUNITY PRICE INCREASES:

10267 176 Street, Surrey
Apr 8: $3,999,000
Aug 16: $5,999,888
Change: 2,000,888.00 +50%
e-valueBC = $1,707,000

3228 Vanness Avenue, Vancouver
Feb 1: $2,100,000
Aug 16: $2,200,000
Change: 100,000.00 +5%
e-valueBC = $1,090,600

1901-3093 Windsor Gate, Coquitlam
Jan 19: $649,000
Aug 16: $768,000
Change: 119,000.00 +18%
e-valueBC = $651,000
Purchased: 09/Oct/2014 $474,495

14559 32 Avenue, Surrey
Mar 2: $1,659,000
Aug 16: $3,488,000
Change: 1,829,000.00 +110%
e-valueBC = $1,403,000
Purchased: 03/May/2016 $1,403,000

4302 4508 Hazel Street, Burnaby
Mar 4: $1,588,000
Aug 14: $1,699,000
Change: 111,000.00 +7%
e-valueBC = $1,219,000
23/Jun/2015 $1,388,000

Detached cooling in YVR.

http://www.myrealtycheck.ca/

#291 Another Albertan on 08.17.17 at 2:45 pm

#117/Jag:

I didn’t know I was letting you down. Hugs?

I’ve been navigating my company and its three dozen employees through this gongshow we call an economy.

I see a whole lot of people and companies out there still pining for the good old days and struggling to adapt to the new realities. I hazard we are at the pivot point in history for a good number of organizations and households.

Everyone else’s mileage may vary.

#292 Greg on 08.17.17 at 2:49 pm

Hey Garth,
Tell us your thoughts on this article from the National Post. I’m keenly interested to see you hack this one apart!

“Canada’s housing bubble has vanished without a ‘crash landing’, say economists”
http://www.nationalpost.com/canada+housing+bubble+vanished+without+crash+landing+economists/14216329/story.html

#293 westcdn on 08.17.17 at 2:51 pm

I am prepared for this site to go dark and I will miss it. I occasionally throw in my 2 cents. I prefer being right but is a minor motive for me to post a comment.

I disagree with some of the comments but I usually bite my tongue. Normally, I am a couple a days behind on reading comments. 200 plus comments take a while to chew through and think about them. I won’t make stale comments knowingly. The format is fine by me and it is your blog.

Say, that rumour that Gary Cohn might quit the Trump cabinet along with the US Fed minutes seems to be spooking the financial market. It looks like a top to me.

Trump is bigly disappointment to me – just beautiful! Now he is looking for a win anywhere he can find it.

#294 RL on 08.17.17 at 2:54 pm

I often find the comments helpful. Unfortunately only about 10% or less, but helpful still. Would be a shame to lose them entirely because of a few bad apples, but any sort of action to moderate or limit the bad apples seems reasonable to me! Thanks a lot for your time and effort, it’s really appreciated.

#295 Ed Bear on 08.17.17 at 2:55 pm

Striking a balance, a registration feature would trim out the worst of the spontaneous ****posting, but still allow people to comment freely. Removing the 4chan-like nature of anyone posting anything with no effort at all would at least diminish the burden on Garth to wade through masses of garbage. It’s not like it would be a huge effort for people to do a one-time registration.

#296 nick on 08.17.17 at 2:58 pm

Oh lordy. All of this “Trump is racist” stuff is pretty sad. Stop watching CNN. Stop being sheep.

#297 DonJulio on 08.17.17 at 3:15 pm

My two cents(options):
-Move it to the reddit site. That way there can be back and forth discussion, instead of shots from the dark
-Axe it all together. I read the comments just to remind me that there are “greater fools” than me. But as my investment and meditation practice have shown me, I don’t need this sort of external validation.

#298 isuckless on 08.17.17 at 3:23 pm

297 comments!
and you have to read each one. Sorry but you ask for it :)

BTW, my vote is still to keep it as is.
No Facebook, reddit or anything that will do more spying and slowing page opening (especially on mobile devices).

If you want subscription, I’ll subscribe.

p.s.
change the ride. Harleys were good machines 70 years ago. If you want a big cruiser take real US bike: Honda Goldwing (I am riding VStrom, not into cruisers)

#299 Johnny Boy on 08.17.17 at 3:27 pm

#267 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 11:22 am

55 Johnny boy on 08.17.17 at 10:21 am
#239 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 8:37 am

197 Palmateer on 08.16.17 at 11:41 pm
People may be interested to check out Smoking Man’s twitter account, where he has been busy pumping up support for Trump’s racist and pro-Nazi agenda.

https://twitter.com/SmokingMan

Time to delete racist ole Smokey

Trump is not a rasist nor am I you MSM baffoon.

Go buy some Toronto Real Estate. Same MSM painting Trump as a rasist is also saying toronto re is at the bottom time to buy.
……………………………………………………………………
Ok knucklehead your true colours show with your perpetually shaded support for Donald J Trump.
He is a supporter of the KKK, the white nationalist movement, and neo Nazis! Fact!
Don’t give me any of this bullshit MSN fake news crap, I have heard enough of this garbage from you and your undying support for this disaster of a president.
He does this by NOT, and I say NOT! disavowing them, by careful trickery of words or therefore the lack of words condemning them directly. You cannot whitewash his racism or hide behind it when he attempts to put both parties at the gatherings on the same level playing field by saying that some people there with the white supremacists march where good people. They are NOT the same. Reprobates like David Duke align themselves with Trump represent the worst and vilest of attitudes toward people who are not white. If you were a human being with any conscience at all and YOU were marching to protest the removal of a statue only and you looked around you to see everyone chanting white supremacist slogans, with Nazi flags you would have to give your head a shake and say truthfully is this what I stand for? I wouldn’t I would get to hell out of there ASAP. He is giving the Neo Nazis and white supremacists a green light to continue their disgusting agendas. There is NO place in this world for Nazis, the KKK and racist white supremacists or for that matter those who support them. My grandparents suffered under the Nazi regime during WW2 as they were deemed to be agents against the state under Mussolini and Hitler for their views on the mistreatment of Jews. My Grandfathers Company employed many Jewish people and he hid many of them from the Nazis. If my grandfather was here today he would call out Trump for the slick conniving racist supporter he is for NOT condemning the white supremacists and for NOT doing anything to stop them.
I went to your twit account to have a look and OMG you are really a whack job for re-tweeting some of this racist garbage, you should really be ashamed of yourself.
…..

I always thought that you where stupid. Your rant proves my theory
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Yes I’m stupid, I opened my big mouth in a drunken rage and told everyone that inclusiveness is crap and got broomed from my job, became unemployable due to my continuous crazy assed postings and then had to sell my boat and my home in order to that I could survive without going on the streets with NFA. Sure,,,, oh sorry that’s your story. Sorry I apologize. Now go back to your booze and cigarettes, enjoy your life in the dumpster. Ciao

#300 Johnny Boy on 08.17.17 at 3:28 pm

#267 Smoking Man on 08.17.17 at 11:22 am

BTW do you still support DJT?
Just asking?

#301 keep'em coming on 08.17.17 at 3:28 pm

Garth,
please-please-please keep the comment section.
Those who say they don’t read the comments should do just that: keep not reading them.
The others, like me, sift through them for golden nuggets of interesting info, links to other cool reads, anecdotal facts from around the country and the world, etc. I have saved numerous posts from here (yours and commenters’) to use in educating my kids about personal finance, real estate, life in general.
Whether you change the format, the way of moderating it or implement logging in – your choice, but keep’em coming.
Signed: comments addict.

#302 Looney Baloney on 08.17.17 at 3:40 pm

Two things Mr. G:

One, and most importantly, the ability to Upvote / downvote comments, so low value trash can be nuked into digital oblivion. This might also psychologically deter snowflake posters like SCM (although deplorables might wear the downvotes as a badge of honour).

Two, and less importantly, the ability to reply would be nice, so the original poster can find replies to his/her/its post at a glance.

Thanks again for your time, dedication and insights. We, your rabid fanatics, eagerly await the day you run for the big seat, dethrone T2, and make this country great again.

#303 Looney Baloney on 08.17.17 at 3:43 pm

I would like to add that I disagree with moving comments to a third-party platform like fadbook, twatter, disgust or rabid. All you need is one triggered cat lady in any of those places to ban this entire community. Besides, we all know you secretly enjoy reading our salacious diatribes, especially the ones you DELETE. If anyone is banning us, it should be you.

#304 Old Dog on 08.17.17 at 3:43 pm

I would keep it like it is. The comments are a cross section of Canadian Society.
Garth Turner and Garth Turner Investments get good traction from this site. If you charge you will lose most of your regulars. Get a couple of volunteer moderators to help if you need them, like forums do.
Garth, my advice is just put on your big boy panties, gender neutral of course, and carry on with this diverse group of dogs.

#305 James on 08.17.17 at 4:03 pm

Stop running your own comment section, and start a subreddit with your own mods. It’s got everything you want from software already.

#306 n1tro on 08.17.17 at 4:07 pm

To those whose comments are saying Garth has helped them so much but seldom post comments because of this and that reason. How about taking 10 mins to post (this time involving a stamp and some pen work) about what he has done for you at no cost while educating thousands of others and saving millions of dollars?

http://www.gg.ca/nominate

Receiving Canada’s highest honor should recharge Garth at least for another year of blog abuse. :)

#307 isuckless on 08.17.17 at 4:09 pm

For MSM believers: who owns the media, controls the message.
In my mind, people who were born in western countries (Canada, US, …) and who believe in their media and politicians, do not have critical thinking developed enough. Maybe us, who came from the other side(s) and who were exposed to true propaganda, can better detect BS when we hear it.

#308 maka on 08.17.17 at 4:13 pm

Keep the comment section.

Sometime I find valuable, interesting comments that have some educational value.

Ban deplorable by IP.

If possible show UP/Down or Like/Dislike vote button beside each comment. If a comment reaches threshold of dislikes, hide or delete it automatically.

#309 Looney Baloney on 08.17.17 at 4:37 pm

#289 Asterix1 on 08.17.17 at 2:03 pm

Thats a good point. Back in the day, whenever I stumbled upon an MSM link, I scrolled straight down to the comments section. Reading the comments helped gauge the difference in perspectives on political matters between the elites in their ivory towers (utopists) and the plebs down on the streets (realists).

Ever since they abolished the comments sections, I have never had a reason to visit their sites.

#310 Sold out in Vancouver on 08.17.17 at 4:47 pm

Shyster Realturd listing in Penticton BC,
He’s just listed this place at $359000,
Assessed at $250200,
The house next door ( same size with a Detached garage ) Sold July 5/17 for $320000

This shyster’s not being honest with himself, his client or anyone on the planet for that matter !!!

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Single-Family/18542156/465-NELSON-AVE-PENTICTON-British-Columbia-V2A2L3

https://evaluebc.bcassessment.ca/Property.aspx?_oa=QTAwMDA5NFRQRg==

https://evaluebc.bcassessment.ca/Property.aspx?_oa=QTAwMDA5NFRQRQ==

#311 Fish on 08.17.17 at 4:58 pm

RE #310 Sold out in Vancouver on

Wow
I can’t believe what a shyster, thanks for the pics
Good one!!!

#312 Gravy Train on 08.17.17 at 5:30 pm

#240 Honest Realtor on 08.17.17 at 8:40 am
#258 Old Ron the Realtor on 08.17.17 at 10:41 am

“Deleting all comments by anti-Semitic psychopaths who wish harm and suffering upon people so explicitly would be a great start.”

“If a comment targeting any minority slips through, you, and all of us have a duty to let the [moderator] (Garth) know about it immediately.

“I haven’t been here all that long … but I have yet to see a comment with the content that you described in your post….”

I think Honest Realtor is saying that the use of the word shyster is anti-Semitic, perhaps linking shyster to Shakespeare’s Shylock (from the Merchant of Venice).
http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/id=900005387204/Is-Shyster-AntiSemitic

The origin and etymology of the word shyster is probably from the German word Scheisser, literally, defecator.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shyster

#313 Midbach on 08.17.17 at 7:08 pm

Garth, I come to read your thoughts and enjoy the silly pictures. I almost never read the comments. When only 1% are posting and it causes you such a headache, I’d say pull the comments and spend the free time with Bandit.

#314 Piet on 08.17.17 at 7:10 pm

@#55 Blobby
“upvotes climb up the ladder and downvotes fade away into darkness

Oh gawd no! Cbc has that, and all that happens is the racists group together and upvote each other. ”

A few racists who frame the world in terms of lefty vs. righty have set up numerous CBC accounts, which enables them to rapidly skew the likes and dislikes. Those racists sure have a lot of free time to post garbage and manipulate ratings.

Those who have said that it is out of the question to register for an FB account to post on the blog are spot on.

Garth’s work over the years is much appreciated. The small-town newspaper columns were good, and getting an insider’s view from the HOC was priceless. The standard of Garth’s writing has always been commendable.

#315 Timing is everything on 08.17.17 at 9:49 pm

April 30, 2017, eh?

We closed on the sale of our place that day and turned into renters…how nice.

#316 Reconstituted Son on 08.18.17 at 2:56 am

Another upvote for putting posts and comments onto Reddit.

Would be nice to see which blog posts are popular and to have some “greatest hits” on the sidebar.

I rarely make it through the dross in the comments section, so it would also be nice to see upvoted comments on posts of interest.

Disclosure: Reddit user.

#317 Arne on 08.18.17 at 5:40 am

7 million reader p.a. and a half a million comments so far and you want to play with the formula.
If this were an equally successful investment portfolio, would you advise change?
Leave everything as it is (please).