Poll: Harper’s last stand

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Over the last 24 hours more than 6,000 visitors to this site voted in the survey posted yesterday. Thus, the two pre-election polls staged here over 21 days comprise the largest sampling of public opinion during the campaign, with over 13,000 responses. But does this mean a damn thing? More on that in a moment.

First, the news. Here are the headline results:

  • Tom Mulcair’s in trouble. His backers has fallen from 19% three weeks ago to just 12% now.
  • Support for the Green party has collapsed from 10% to 6%, as voters go centrist.
  • Justin Trudeau has massive momentum, gaining a whopping eleven points in twenty days. Liberal support has grown from 25% to over 36%.
  • Among visitors to this site, as pathetic and elitist as it may be, Conservative support has held at almost 45%.
  • A significant 17% of respondents say they’ve changed their minds in the last 10 days.
  • Despite support for the Conservatives, almost 55% say other parties should not support a Harper minority government – suggesting the brand is strong but the man is not.
  • In contrast, 60% believe the NDP should support the Liberals if they form a minority government, and 55% believe a Liberal-NDP coalition government is acceptable.
  • The key issue for voters here (as you might expect) is the economy, with 35% citing it. But defeating Harper ranks second at 22%, ahead of the TFSA at 15%.

CHANGE

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Also notable is that among those who say political advertising influenced their decision, far more negative impressions were created by the Tory bombardment of the airwaves, while the Liberals recorded a 3-to-1 positive-to-negative response.

Now, a few words on the legitimacy of this poll. First, I don’t actually care because it’s a snapshot in time of how the people who come to this blog feel about things. These folks are already filtered by their interest in financial and economic matters, their very bad sense of humour, various sexual proclivities, a faint whiff of mould, dog fondling and the fact they read a blog written by a former politician who sucked at it who is obsessed with making money and moderating disturbing comments.

But who are they?

Here’s where this effort differs from those limp-wristed, randomly-selected, scientific national polls, which are now visited upon us daily. Six thousand people have just told us about themselves, so it provides a snapshot of this blog’s readership and allows all the amateur pollsters and horrified Dippers out there to weigh the results and reach their own conclusions.

Here’s what we know:

Just over 14% of respondents make less than $50,000 and support among this group for the Cons is 40%, while the Liberals get 32% and the Mulcair forces just 15%. About 45% of voters earn between $50,000 and $100,000. Of that group, 40% support the Conservatives, 38.8% are Libs and 14% back the NDP. There are 32% of people coming here (or at least completing the poll) who earn between $100,000 and $200,000 and support for the Tories soars to 48%, with the Grits at 35% and the NDP lagging at less than 10%. Finally the over-$200,000 set (these are the wealthy 1%ers Trudeau wants to tax more) make up about 9% of the audience and they have blue flowing through their veins – 64% being Conservative, 26% Liberal and a mere 5% Dipper.

ISSUES

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Lastly, 47% of this site’s voters are renters, 52% own and more than half of them have no mortgages. Sweet. Almost half are under the age of 45, with 7% wrinklies and an equal number of moist Millennials. Our poll apparently scared the crap out of all but about a thousand women, so 85% of the respondents were guys.

There you go. Below you can see the actual numbers. This poll is accurate for the next hour, with a lusty margin of error, and a distinct breed prejudice. Now you know how this blog would like the country to be run. After we see what Monday night brings, we may need to discuss secession.

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249 comments ↓

#1 TurnerNation on 10.15.15 at 4:05 pm

Another early post. Happy hour fan!?

#2 Broke Dick on 10.15.15 at 4:09 pm

Still don’t trust people with beards, you included!

#3 Spiltbongwater on 10.15.15 at 4:09 pm

Nearly 85% is male?

#4 For those about to flop... on 10.15.15 at 4:11 pm

Now, a few words on the legitimacy of this poll. First, I don’t actually care because it’s a snapshot in time of how the people who come to this blog feel about things. These folks are already filtered by their interest in financial and economic matters, their very bad sense of humour, various sexual proclivities, a faint whiff of mould, dog fondling and the fact they read a blog written by a former politician who sucked at it who is obsessed with making money and moderating disturbing comments.
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I know your only joking ,but if you think you sucked at your job because you wanted to be more transparent and modernize things then maybe a few of the current crop should suck at it a little harder.

#5 Victoria Real Estate Update on 10.15.15 at 4:11 pm

Have you let realtors, your local media, etc. convince you that now is a good time to buy a house in Canada?

Perhaps you’ve been bombarded by so much self-serving, cherry picked (and sometimes false) information from those in the housing industry that you’ve become brainwashed and don’t understand how extremely overvalued houses are in your Canadian city.

Before you take on all of that dangerous mortgage debt that could cripple your family financially in the future, it might be helpful to consider some of the facts.

• House prices in your Canadian city are so extremely bubbly that Canada has been warned by experts around the globe that its housing market situation is extremely dangerous – not only for Canadian families but for the future of the Canadian economy.

•. Another big reason that it’s unsafe to buy a house right now is that Canada is the only G7 country in recession in 2015.

Canada’s strategy to fix its faltering economy is, apparently, to increase (already record high) household debt levels even more with action to make it even easier to buy (bubble priced) houses.

This strategy has been in effect in Canada for 15 years and here we are in recession, despite 6 years of emergency rates.

It just isn’t safe to buy a house in Canada right now.

The US housing correction began almost 10 years ago. House prices south of the border have had plenty of time to reset and establish a new range of value. Prices in the US are where they should be relative to rents and incomes according to The Economist.

Incomes in Canada and the US have been approximately equal for a long time and, until recently, house prices were on par as well.

Houses cost a lot more in Canada than in the US. Why is this so? It is a direct result of action taken in Canada to loosen mortgage lending standards. This process has been in effect for 15 years in Canada and more loosening of lending standards has taken place in 2015. Soon Canada will be without any more options to loosen standards. The most powerful options have already been used.

The result is Canada’s enormous housing bubble.

Canada’s housing bubble has been inflated with, perhaps, the laxest lending standards in the world.

As house prices fall in Canada it will be those mortgage holders who bought at near peak prices when rates were the lowest and with today’s extremely lax lending standards who will encounter mortgage problems first. This group will be the most likely to lose their homes and will help bring prices down.

Prices in some Canadian cities are lower year-over-year, despite 2015’s record-low mortgage rates, two Bank of Canada rates drops this year and other action taken with the intention to make it easier for Canadians to qualify for mortgages.

With similar incomes, house prices in Canada should be on par with those in the US.

Consider these homes in the following sample of US cities. It’s almost impossible to find a comparable house in your Canadian city for less than $350 K, whether you are talking about Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina, Edmonton, Calgary, Victoria, Vancouver, Toronto, Hamilton, Toronto, Quebec City, Montreal or Halifax. In a lot of cases, a comparable Canadian house would cost $700 K to over a million.

The following houses have at least 3 beds, 2 baths, 1,800 sq. ft. of primary (above ground) living area, no older than 2005 and have an attached double garage.

$ 125 K, Aynor, South Carolina (Myrtle Beach)

$ 135 K, Louisville, Kentucky

$ 70 K, Atlanta, Georgia

$ 85 K, Arizona City, Arizona (Phoenix)

$ 114 K, Converse, Texas (San Antonio)

$ 90 K, Indianapolis, Indiana

$ 100 K, Charlotte, North Carolina

$ 130 K, Vero Beach, Florida

Note that foreclosure and auction homes have not been included.

#6 Smartalox on 10.15.15 at 4:13 pm

Interesting insights, and I do enjoy the ‘lusty margin of error’.

Still, without referencing geographic markers, it’s impossible to determine how these figures will translate into seat allocations come Monday.

Still, interesting to see such strong conservative support among the sub-$50 000 crowd. Similar to the US style ‘bait and switch’ Republicanism.

Also interesting to see the strong effects of negative, misleading and outright false advertising has had. I really hope that these results will reflect that this kind of poison rhetoric won’t work in Canada, despit the fact that it might work in America, (or Australia, for that matter).

#7 mzgg on 10.15.15 at 4:14 pm

FIRST

#8 Rational Optimist on 10.15.15 at 4:15 pm

What is Ralph Cramdown on about? The poll clearly predicts a Conservative super-majority. Based on this, I anticipate that the blow-out will be large enough that every single opposition party leader will have to resign by the end of Monday night.

#9 Harper is mentally ill on 10.15.15 at 4:16 pm

You are such a fool harper.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-harper-fords-1.3272313

#10 Chris on 10.15.15 at 4:17 pm

Early today.

#11 bill on 10.15.15 at 4:17 pm

Hi Garth
what % of women frequent this blog when its not a poll?
Thanks

#12 bob Dog on 10.15.15 at 4:18 pm

Did you know that a Canadian who has lived and worked in the USA for 10 years or more can not only collect a messily Canadian retirement pension but also a much more substantial US retirement pension?

And no, the IRS does not require you to file a tax return forever. That only applies to US Citizens which is not the goal.

#13 Ralph Cramdown on 10.15.15 at 4:18 pm

I don’t suppose you’ll be offering the raw data like Ashley Madison did?

I’d be interested in seeing the own/rent breakdown by age and income, data junkie that I am…

Thanks.

#14 will on 10.15.15 at 4:19 pm

I’m surprised the CPC is still polling so high among these readers, considering they are hovering just at or under 30% on nearly every major poll for the last week. Polls do tend to underestimate them but 40% is majority territory and I don’t think anyone expects anywhere near that on election day.

You definitely captured the shift away from the NDP and the greens to the ABC Liberal camp. I expect the NDP is going to be in big trouble on election day and that could push the liberals over the top if the bleeding is deep enough.

I think what you’ve shown more than anything though is that many of the readers on this blog would be PC leaning under normal circumstances (i.e with Garth as the leader of the old PC party). Not at all surprising on a financial blog.

#15 Dave on 10.15.15 at 4:22 pm

Very Interesting Results!

My views:

1. Surprised by number of renters at 40%+. Considering homeownership is at all time highs…

2. Surprised by people who make $100,00+ (40%+), while renters constitute 47%.

Conclusion?

You’ve got a very odd and diverse readership here. Not too surprised about the male/female breakdown (I’m not being sexist here), but males do tend to take on the financial side of things in a relationship..generally…thus the interest in this blog.

I think it’s fairly representative age-wise…although, not many people younger than 30 read this blog (or bothered to do the survey)…so, I think the end results of the election come Monday will be different……assuming those under 30 get out there to vote in the first place.

But then that’s assuming that those under 30 are more heavily weighted to NDP/Liberal….which I’m not 100% convinced of as I’ve yet to see proof of that.

Cheers.

#16 MissConstrued on 10.15.15 at 4:23 pm

I am surprised to see the margin by which women are woefully unrepresented on this blog. Such a sad state of affairs.

#17 Darren on 10.15.15 at 4:24 pm

HEY! What happened to the beard question?

#18 jess on 10.15.15 at 4:25 pm

bobs ur uncle and globe article on PEPS. Here is a survey done on uk banks and their findings were not encouraging.

FSA report: Banks’ management of high money-laundering risk situations
Published: 15/06/2011 Last Modified : 12/09/2014

How banks deal with high-risk customers (including politically exposed persons), correspondent banking relationships and wire transfers

Introduction
1.
This report describes how banks operating in the UK are managing money-laundering risk in higher risk situations. It focuses in particular on correspondent banking relationships, wire transfer payments and high-risk customers including politically exposed persons (PEPs). PEPs are individuals
whose prominent position in public life may make them vulnerable to corruption. The definition extends to immediate family members and known close associates

well worth the read
http://www.fca.org.uk/your-fca/documents/fsa-aml-final-report

#19 Rog The Rigger on 10.15.15 at 4:28 pm

Cat lover. Throw him out.

#20 broader mind on 10.15.15 at 4:30 pm

So once the females weigh-in the kid’s a shoe in.

#21 Smartalox on 10.15.15 at 4:30 pm

A ‘Cri de Coeur’ buried in the back pages of the G&M:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/personal-finance/mortgages/its-time-to-stop-coddling-canadas-housing-sector/article26827039/

“It’s such a flawed strategy. In coddling the housing sector, we’ve pushed prices higher and created a market that’s increasingly inhospitable for first-time buyers. The big winners are the broad swath of the economy that profits from home sales, and the long-time owners who have doubled and tripled their money.”

“There are some subtle ways housing is coddled, starting with low interest rates. By no means is it correct to say the Bank of Canada is keeping rates down to support housing. But raising rates will certainly upset this economically dominant sector. That has to figure into the bank’s thinking.

Another factor is the passivity of the federal and provincial governments in coming to grips with foreign buyers who are helping to elevate prices in cities like Vancouver and Toronto. The Conservatives said they’d study the matter if re-elected. Up until now, we’ve seen politicians acting as if they’re afraid to do anything that would upset baby boomers living in houses worth many times what they paid.

“What we’re in fact doing is over-stimulating demand. If we really want to open the market up, we’d remove some of the supports for housing and let prices settle. Existing home owners would give back just a little of their gains, while new buyers would benefit from lower prices.

Tough love is what housing needs, not more measures that drive prices higher. Bury the HBP, boost interest rates a bit and let’s have a debate on whether we should adjust the flow of foreign money into housing. Let housing sink or swim on its own merits, not misguided notions that what’s good for this sector is good for the nation.

#22 Justin on 10.15.15 at 4:31 pm

I’m surprised that long-term issues such as the environment and debt receive such little attention. All everyone cares about is the current economy.

#23 Dave on 10.15.15 at 4:36 pm

Another observation..if I may.

From your blog post above:

“About 45% of voters earn between $50,000 and $100,000. Of that group, 40% support the Conservatives, 38.8% are Libs and 14% back the NDP.”

I find it interesting that this “group” of income earners supports the Liberals the most at nearly 39%, while, the group making less than $50,000/year supports the Liberals even less…

Quite the interesting dichotomy here. Might I make the assumption that this $50,000 to $100,000 group considers themselves to be the “middle class”…the very group that JT has thrown countless promises to…where he’ll tax the “richest” (see hard working) group and pass that money on to the “middle class” in order to support them?

I would suspect that perhaps the sub $50,000 group might consider themselves in the lower income “pool”…and might see the fact that all other things JT has promised may in fact hurt them financially…not the other way around…

#24 Dave on 10.15.15 at 4:42 pm

Garth…curious…

Out of the homeowners who own their home outright…What is the breakdown for that between the 30-45 age group and the 46-65+ age group?

The reason I asked is because through hard work and running my own business, I was able to become 100% debt free by age 37…and not to pat myself on the back, but I’d consider that relatively young, considering I had only just bought my home at age 29 and had a $337,000 mortgage…

#25 DreamingIntechniColour on 10.15.15 at 4:42 pm

Waiting for the good deals to emerge in Alberta

………………VULCH!!!

#26 Lost in Space on 10.15.15 at 4:48 pm

this is the best defination of wealthy I’ve ever seen

From Bankers Anonymous

So here it is, my definition of wealthy: If you have enough assets plus passive income to cover your personal lifestyle expenses for the rest of your life, and that money allows you to work at something you love – without concern for the amount of compensation – then you are wealthy.

#27 SunShowers on 10.15.15 at 4:54 pm

40% support for Conservatives is what Harper had last election, it’s our Looney Tunes electoral system that gave him a “majority” with 40% of the votes.

Nanos says 30% are voting Blue, but I suppose that can be chalked up to polling Canadians vs polling Blog Dogs.

Thanks again for the poll Garth, neat insights!

#28 Herb on 10.15.15 at 4:54 pm

I have a question for one of our resident economic experts and Harper supporters.

Just what in our economic record over the last nine years inspires you with the confidence that our future prosperity depends on him and/or the CPC continuing in power?

#29 aizlynne on 10.15.15 at 4:58 pm

Garth, if sucking as a politician means you stood for accountability, honesty and transparency, then ya, you sucked big time. You and Chuck Cadman.

#30 Dog petting on 10.15.15 at 4:58 pm

Dog fondling? Seriously? You’d put that phrase to describe your readers? Or perhaps the writer?

#31 Ronaldo on 10.15.15 at 5:01 pm

#3 Spiltbongwater on 10.15.15 at 4:09 pm

”Nearly 85% is male?”

I wonder how many of them have had a marriage breakdown as a result of being addicted to this blog.

We should have a poll on that as well. lol

#32 Sixtyfourk on 10.15.15 at 5:03 pm

Just a quick comment about the text in the poll yesterday that said something to the effect:

“This poll is anonymous because we don’t collect your email address.”

Any submission you make on the internet can be traced directly back to you, unless you know exactly what you are doing. (Hint: most people who think they know what they are doing, don’t.)

If you don’t believe me, go to this demonstration by the Electronic Frontier Foundation: https://panopticlick.eff.org/

I’m not implying that Garth has an ulterior motive or that he is interested in tracking us.

However, it is useful to be aware that anything and everything you do on the internet can be tied back to you personally.

Yes, and now I know where you live. Troublemaker. — Garth

#33 MSM-Free Zone on 10.15.15 at 5:12 pm

Finally the over-$200,000 set…….make up about 9% of the audience and they have blue flowing through their veins – 64% being Conservative…..”
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Quelle surprise………

“….The richest one per cent now own half of all the wealth in the world, a new report from Credit Suisse says. The bank’s Global Wealth Report 2015 marks the first time that the world’s super rich have amassed enough wealth to cross that symbolic line…..”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/credit-suisse-world-wealth-report-1.3270056

#34 Keith in Calgary on 10.15.15 at 5:14 pm

I noticed that Garth left marijuana legalization off of his drop down list of why you’re voting.

I am voting Liberal for this reason, first and foremost. I am 55 years old, a professional, and “almost” a millionaire. Most of the twenty something’s in our corporate workforce are voting Liberal for this reason as well, because financially they think we are screwed regardless of who gets in. Actually, I’d say that this issue will push Trudeau over the top, much to the disgust of the fascist conservatives and their blue shirted taser totin’ thugs.

#35 Randy on 10.15.15 at 5:21 pm

I would love to have U.S. House Prices here.

#36 For those about to flop... on 10.15.15 at 5:27 pm

#34 Keith in Calgary on 10.15.15 at 5:14 pm

Hey Keith,I’m “almost ” a millionaire too.
Only 800k more to go!

#37 Poll: Harper’s last stand | Realties.ca on 10.15.15 at 5:34 pm

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#38 Rascal on 10.15.15 at 5:35 pm

Another interesting poll question could have been:
Which province do you reside in?

#39 Gray Man on 10.15.15 at 5:37 pm

Blog Dogs looking for advice.
What to do ?
Is it better to decline my vote or spoil the ballot.

#40 conan on 10.15.15 at 5:40 pm

Cat out of bag
Harper is toast
Neo-Con is passe
Pro-Cons to come back
beards are ok

I think we will see Harper do a Prentice and resign.
Red Tories may cross the floor and the NDP will wring their hands in desperation.

Canada will survive.
History will not look fondly on Harper.

#41 Leo Trollstoy on 10.15.15 at 5:46 pm

Son, let me tell you what a red-hot IT job market looks like. I got off a transatlantic flight, hopped into a cab and went downtown for a job interview with a big 5 bank, wearing the backpack and jeans I’d been touring europe for four months in. Only a few years of relevant experience and no degree. Got the gig, no second interview, six figures… over twenty years ago when that was real money.

Exactly. Which is why Mark’s claim that it’s difficult to find 6 figures in IT today is ridiculous.

20 yrs ago I was busy investing in Toronto real estate. My peers were billing $150 to $300 per hour and they were swamped.

6 digits is nothing in IT

The fact that Mark thinks it’s a big deal tells me a lot about his skill set. Pathetic.

#42 sue on 10.15.15 at 5:48 pm

It seems that people who come here are looking for information about economics/finance etc I could be wrong but I have an impression that a lot of JT’s voters are “low information” voters. The young who walk around and say “real change” all day long without really investigating any details. Without adequate details, you will be heavily swayed by one of his dramatic speeches.

#43 Freedom First on 10.15.15 at 5:53 pm

Keith in Calgary

Yes. I live in Alberta right now too. The 4th Province I have lived in.

Keith, man, you sound angry. You’ve got to chill, man.

Yes, in Alberta, the anger, tension, and fear is now palpable. Lots of people are hurting, layoffs are rising, and the mood is somber. I am glad I learned years ago to keep a low profile. I live comfortably, but nobody can tell my financial situation by where I live, or by the car I drive. I keep under the radar, it’s how I roll. For good reason too. I like it that way. Everything in my life is on a need to know basis. I know people. Some I even like.

#44 Millennial Realist on 10.15.15 at 5:57 pm

Interesting results, Garth. Thanks for the effort.

On one hand, this confirms my own sense that readers here are overwhelmingly male – I think at one point in the last year or so you posted that you had data suggesting that readership was almost evenly split, which I simply cannot agree with based on comments.

More importantly, this poll completely confirms for me the very pronounced skew of your readership.

Just today (and yesterday), fresh data over at 308 shows conclusively that the Liberals are beating the Conservatives by about 36% to 31%. That, and the trends leading to it, have been confirmed for weeks via multiple polls.

I’ll trust that collection of polling data much more to know what is really happening. I think you would too, as would most people.

The Greater Fool poll is clearly an outlier, one that tells us little about the actual likely election results (though very useful info about your readership).

Further, the fact your own poll shows large gains for the Liberals goes to confirm their overall momentum, as shown in other polls.

Conclusion?

Harper is toast, as evidenced by his even more desperate ads, reviled even on right wing talk radio this week.

Liberals? They’ll win a plurality of seats, with NDP – “ABC” voters going Liberal.

Liberal majority?

I’d give that about a 50/50 chance unless something changes the momentum over the next four days.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Get used to the sound of that.

Harper? I wonder – would he even get the usual cushy board positions after his reign? Many corps might find him just too toxic to associate with, methinks.

#45 Mf on 10.15.15 at 5:58 pm

#34 Keith in Calgary on 10.15.15 a

Hi. Young person here who is also “educated and professional” whatever that means (nothing). Contrary to what you think, I can see this issue ruining JT and TM. Actually I hope it does.

My same age co workers (who vote, which is a vast minority) find JT and Mulcair trying to woo votes from us by pandering to the lazy pot heads among us as pathetic 1 and insulting 2…but not surprising.

Thankfully, The majority of people my age and younger will not vote and are a none factor anyways (good).

The issue is one of the big reasons why I’m voting blue (also TFSA and foreign policy). I really haven’t come across that many people voting for JT.

The consensus is Harper isn’t great, the other two are worse.

Mf

#46 A female reader on 10.15.15 at 5:58 pm

Meh…not too surprised at the lack of female readers. The smart ones just don’t return after reading all the sexist garbage on this blog and comments. Mostly not overt, just insidious. No need to comment for the most part. Most just don’t return. I guess I’m a sucker for punishment….

#47 BC Guy on 10.15.15 at 6:01 pm

Generation Squeeze: time to get out and vote for change.

“Young adults earn thousands of dollars less for full-time work than previous generations once you adjust for inflation, even though they’re more educated. They also face larger student debt and greater housing prices than their parents or grandparents did.”

http://globalnews.ca/news/2278372/young-canadians-get-pocket-change-from-federal-parties-compared-to-seniors-report/

#48 Drill Baby Drill on 10.15.15 at 6:03 pm

Who is the 0.02% that is not male or female ?

#49 Gray Man on 10.15.15 at 6:06 pm

# Randy

I would love to have US house prices here.
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Stay patient my friend you will , but unfortunately a minimum wage job
courtesy of Harper secret TPP trade deal.

#50 Nora Lenderby on 10.15.15 at 6:14 pm

#178 conan on 10.15.15 at 12:00 am

Grey Kitty: I hate to tell you but that tick on your neck is getting bigger.
Orange Kitty: Does it make me look fat?
Grey Kitty: Not exactly.
Orange Kitty: I’ll ask mom to get some Revolution™

#51 Nora Lenderby on 10.15.15 at 6:15 pm

#48 Nagraj on 10.14.15 at 6:16 pm
THE NEWS is that Prime Minister Roadkill knows that Justin (he’s from Quabeck) means to organize, legalize, subsidize (and likely tax) a BROTHEL in every town village and hamlet.

Thats the good news.

The bad news is that these establishments will be run by civil servants and staffed by impoverished senior citizens desperate to make up their skimpy stipends.
My alias will be Miss D. Meaner.

#52 Blacksheep on 10.15.15 at 6:19 pm

Holy # 276,

“Are we acquiring new territory? If so we should take French Polynesia, its warm, people are nice, clean water and good fishing.”

“I’m likin this empire and acquisition stuff.”
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If they invite us in, as their new overlords, awesome.

But the reality is, once we bomb the shit out of the place, there won’t be any nice people, clean water or good fishing left.

#53 Mark on 10.15.15 at 6:21 pm

“Exactly. Which is why Mark’s claim that it’s difficult to find 6 figures in IT today is ridiculous.”

Its not ridiculous at all. IT jobs are incredibly difficult to find and salaries, when the few jobs available are found, have not kept up with those of other professionals. All I can say about you Trollstoy is that you are completely out of touch with reality. IT grad unemployment is extreme, and the few available positions out there basically demand the stars and the moon, but offer very little remuneration in exchange.

Starting salaries for CS grads today are comparable to, if not often less than they were 15 years ago (around $60k/year). Salary surveys do not support many IT people earning 6 figures. This is the legacy of a failed Canadian IT industry, reduction in IT investment amongst Canadian businesses, and government policy that has favoured the use of TFW’s and foreign outsourcing in favour of Canadians trained in the professions. The overwhelming weighting of growth in the economy towards FIRE and O&G has not been favourable to the IT sector at all. Venture capital for Canadian start-up firms in the sector has been only minimally available, and only for a very narrow slate of firms particularly in the social media space.

#54 Mf on 10.15.15 at 6:23 pm

“Dog fondling” lol Garth that made me laugh.

Retired Boomer WI

Thanks for the rant acknowledgement last time.

Usually I go to the gym to let go of my pent up political frustration/rage, but didn’t get a chance to go that day. It had to be let out.

Mf

#55 mitzerboy aka queencity kid on 10.15.15 at 6:23 pm

the silent 13
pro cons in the land of living skies mite b infir a surprise

#56 Future Out of Work Senator on 10.15.15 at 6:24 pm

A couple of things. I watched a speech by Ms. May and she made it quite clear that she would be our next Prime Minister swept in by a green gusher.
Also it seems a lot of have had massive pay cuts since that poll regarding income a long time ago.
Both of these pols were interesting though.

#57 nonplused on 10.15.15 at 6:26 pm

The reason not to trust politicians with beards is not because of the beard! Don’t trust any politician.

#58 kommykim on 10.15.15 at 6:27 pm

RE:#48 Drill Baby Drill on 10.15.15 at 6:03 pm
Who is the 0.02% that is not male or female ?

Those are the ones who had a botched circumcision.

#59 Edward on 10.15.15 at 6:29 pm

“Before dismissing the Conservatives, voters should consider one thing.

Win or lose, Harper will be gone in 18 months. Everyone knows it’s time for renewal in the Conservative Party. Voters should ask themselves whether they still favour a party that wants to keep taxes down, control the size of government and doesn’t subscribe to the notion that the solution to every problem is a new government program. They won’t get that with either the Liberals or the NDP.”

http://montrealgazette.com/news/national/opinion-a-vote-for-the-conservatives-need-not-be-a-vote-for-stephen-harper

#60 Ronaldo on 10.15.15 at 6:32 pm

#51 Nora Lendery

”The bad news is that these establishments will be run by civil servants and staffed by impoverished senior citizens desperate to make up their skimpy stipends.
My alias will be Miss D. Meaner.”

What’s so bad about that Nora? Would be a heck of a lot more exciting for an old geezer like me to work there than at Walmart or A&W.

#61 Sixtyfourk on 10.15.15 at 6:36 pm

Yes, and now I know where you live. Troublemaker. — Garth

And how much I make, whether I own my home and who I’m going to vote for. (Allegedly)

But I knew that I was giving up that privacy when I completed the poll and did it anyhow. An educated decision.

Just thought I’d squeeze a little tech education in here.

Now back to finance — the “fed whisperer” says no rate hike this year:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-doubts-grow-on-2015-rate-hike-1444866104?tesla=y

His record has been pretty good on calling the Fed’s actions, leading to allegations that they are leaking policy decisions through him.

#62 Mark on 10.15.15 at 6:50 pm

Anyone watching the meteoric rise of the junior/mid-tier gold and silver miners over the past few weeks?

Was that a bottom? Or is this just a dead cat bounce on the way to even lower lows?

#63 Capt. Obvious on 10.15.15 at 6:52 pm

I think it would have been interesting to get province (or at least west, north, centre, east) and rural/urban information. I state this because looking at threehundredeight.com projections reveals that sentiment is very skewed depending on where you live. In the rural areas of the prairies you have 40, 50, 60, even 70%+ support for the conservatives. Similar support of 40%+ exists for the NDP in the right locations. Location, location, location, just like real estate, man.

#64 Macduff on 10.15.15 at 6:57 pm

Normally election attack ads don’t bug me, but one this time around is truly irritating. This Liberal
Ad states that Canada is the worst performing economy in the G7, and the only one in recession; it also implies that this is a longstanding scenario attributable to Harper. This is rat fesces, and we all know that. Canada has long been a resource based economy whose fortunes have depended on commodity prices. To attribute our current situation to Harper without being aware of the significant global economic challenges that exist truly feeds into the ignorance that most Canadians have about the world beyond our borders. Having a guy with nice hair suggest he can do better is ludicrous.

#65 Nora Lenderby on 10.15.15 at 6:59 pm

#57 nonplused on 10.15.15 at 6:26 pm
The reason not to trust politicians with beards is not because of the beard! Don’t trust any politician.

I disagree. The question was, “Can you trust politicians with beards” not “Will you trust a politician who has facial hair”.

We can’t trust that niqabs are acceptable, so we’ll probably have the beard police around next.

#66 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 7:07 pm

#33 MSM-Free Zone on 10.15.15 at 5:12 pm
Finally the over-$200,000 set…….make up about 9% of the audience and they have blue flowing through their veins – 64% being Conservative…..”
_________________________

Quelle surprise………

“….The richest one per cent now own half of all the wealth in the world, a new report from Credit Suisse says. The bank’s Global Wealth Report 2015 marks the first time that the world’s super rich have amassed enough wealth to cross that symbolic line…..”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/credit-suisse-world-wealth-report-1.3270056
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Do you make more than 34,000 a year?

Welcome to the club Mr. evil. I suggest you retire from whatever oppressive, exploitive profession you are engaging in, and get a job a Timmies at minimum wage. This will then allow you to further complain about the demonic one percenters with some semblance of intellectual honesty.

#67 Ken on 10.15.15 at 7:10 pm

A blog written by a former politician who sucked at it who is obsessed with making money and moderating disturbing comments.

This is a horrible description from someone that has insight, integrity and writes an honest Blog.

I didn’t see a check Box with Garth on it or that would have been my vote yesterday.

#68 Riviere on 10.15.15 at 7:12 pm

I would like to know who is gonna vote PQ. I mean.. really???
I like Duceppe, but the eighties are over.
Also, you like Harper or not, having someone in charge for that long is wrong, imho.

#69 Prairieboy43 on 10.15.15 at 7:15 pm

Parties and false promises. With no penalties. The public buys it. Suckers.
Little birdie whispered to me today. PST 5% AB, Jan.1.
PB43

#70 Retired WI Boomer on 10.15.15 at 7:16 pm

Interesting Poll results.

Much more “male” than I would have expected.

Much more age concentrated 45-65 than I would have expected.

Political variations more concentrated by age thank I would have expected.

See, always a new learn every single day! Even if it should not make sense, and these days less makes sense to me.

Almost time to think about re-cycling.

#71 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 7:18 pm

#64 Macduff on 10.15.15 at 6:57 pm
Normally election attack ads don’t bug me, but one this time around is truly irritating. This Liberal
Ad states that Canada is the worst performing economy in the G7, and the only one in recession; it also implies that this is a longstanding scenario attributable to Harper. This is rat fesces, and we all know that. Canada has long been a resource based economy whose fortunes have depended on commodity prices. To attribute our current situation to Harper without being aware of the significant global economic challenges that exist truly feeds into the ignorance that most Canadians have about the world beyond our borders. Having a guy with nice hair suggest he can do better is ludicrous

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It appears he may be finding out what he’s made of soon enough.

It’s going to suck for him once he understands that what he has been blaming Harper for was actually out of anyone’s control, including him.

The rest of you Canadians better make sure he doesn’t make too many trips to Ontario to visit his political soulmate. Keep him out for our collective own good, but do me a favour and wait until Wynne hangs the ORPP on him first.

Oh, also wait until he tears Putin a new one – I’d pay good money to watch that one (and the fallout).

#72 Ronaldo on 10.15.15 at 7:19 pm

#46 A female reader on 10.15.15 at 5:58 pm

”Meh…not too surprised at the lack of female readers. The smart ones just don’t return after reading all the sexist garbage on this blog and comments. Mostly not overt, just insidious. No need to comment for the most part. Most just don’t return. I guess I’m a sucker for punishment….”

The lack of female readers is probably a good indication that they “have a life”. Not like the 85% of us who are addicted to this blog. Mark included x 10.

#73 BS on 10.15.15 at 7:21 pm

I have a question for one of our resident economic experts and Harper supporters.

Just what in our economic record over the last nine years inspires you with the confidence that our future prosperity depends on him and/or the CPC continuing in power?

Low taxes, low unemployment, smaller government and a robust economy that supports economic growth and business. The opposite of what you would get with Jr. Trudeau or Mulcair. Harper is not prefect but his policies are head and shoulders above those of the alternatives.

#74 steerage steward on 10.15.15 at 7:26 pm

No surprises, but interesting none the less. Slapped together some comparison data between the pathetic fools here and the rest of Canada.

Numbers are %, greaterfool on left, Canada on right.

Who you are voting for.
Conservatie: 45/30
Liberal: 36/37
NDP: 24/12
Green: 4/6
source: http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/poll-tracker/2015/index.html

Income.
greaterfool/Canada
50-100K: 45/45
100-200K: 32/10
under 50K: 14/30
over 200K: 9/1
source: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/famil105a-eng.htm

#75 common sense on 10.15.15 at 7:32 pm

Are the 3 parties keeping Housing up as it’s “the last veneer of middle class wealth” left according to another blogger?

#76 canuck on 10.15.15 at 7:32 pm

34 Keith in Calgary on 10.15.15 at 5:14 pm

I noticed that Garth left marijuana legalization off of his drop down list of why you’re voting.

I am voting Liberal for this reason, first and foremost. I am 55 years old, a professional, and “almost” a millionaire. Most of the twenty something’s in our corporate workforce are voting Liberal for this reason as well, because financially they think we are screwed regardless of who gets in. Actually, I’d say that this issue will push Trudeau over the top, much to the disgust of the fascist conservatives and their blue shirted taser totin’ thugs.
____________________________________________

55 and almost a millionaire and voting for Trudeau because of pot legalization… Beautiful.

I live in Calgary too and I thought all those with more money than brains left town. My bad.

#77 NoOneOfConsequence on 10.15.15 at 7:32 pm

The numbers don’t really add up properly.

The ratios don’t make sense when you start thinking about them in relation to others. Clearly, more than a few people ‘over estimated’ their economic circumstance.

#78 Ronaldo on 10.15.15 at 7:37 pm

#26 Lost in Space on 10.15.15 at 4:48 pm

”this is the best defination of wealthy I’ve ever seen

From Bankers Anonymous

So here it is, my definition of wealthy: If you have enough assets plus passive income to cover your personal lifestyle expenses for the rest of your life, and that money allows you to work at something you love – without concern for the amount of compensation – then you are wealthy.”

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Just got back from 3 weeks tromping around the Swiss Alps. Went to the Doc to get my annual physical and first thing he does is takes my b.p. I ask him, “what am I running at doc?” He smiles and says 110/70, just like a teenager. Just so happens am heading for 70 next birthday.

I think a lot of people spend too much time worrying about wealth accumulation when they should be spending more time looking after their health. What good is a lot of wealth if you lose your health?

Now back to reading the posts. Dang, that addiction.

#79 Alberta Ed on 10.15.15 at 7:40 pm

It will be interesting to see what effect, if any, the latest (post-AdScam) Liberal sleaze eruption has. It’s really a tad early for the old Liberal back room boys to be peddling influence.

Don’t believe all the spin. There are far more Conservative backroom connections than Liberal. — Garth

#80 Gregor Samsa on 10.15.15 at 7:40 pm

#59 Edward
>Win or lose, Harper will be gone in 18 months.

You try to spin this as a good thing, except that all the talent has been purged out the of party or quit, making anyone who might take over from Harper infinitely worse. I wonder how Harper voters feel about a prime minister Jason Kenny, or maybe a prime minister Joe Oliver? God forbid…

I think that Harper losing would actually be a very good thing for the conservative movement in Canada. The party will be forced to rebuild itself as something more palpable. If there was a conservative party in Canada that wasn’t hyper-partisan and “stupid” (aka Harper standing beside Rob Ford) I’d probably vote for them.

#81 Gainsaywhodare on 10.15.15 at 7:47 pm

So disheartened to see such a low female readership…

I am the 15.24%!

#82 JSS on 10.15.15 at 7:48 pm

What’s up with Walmart stock? It’s down like more than 12% this week.

#83 DON on 10.15.15 at 7:55 pm

I think more women will be voting liberal – trudeau is more appealing and less arrogant. The polls indicate Ontario is swinging liberal.

#84 uu4077 on 10.15.15 at 7:55 pm

85% are males who visit a website for financial advice? great … just great! I supose they cried when Fox News North died.

#85 Sheane Wallace on 10.15.15 at 7:58 pm

#5 Victoria Real Estate Update

Wells Fargo just announced 40 % decline in mortgage applications in US and people are predicting the house market will really get killed in US. with the prices that you quote.

In Canada Mr H. wet dreams are still linked to boosting the housing market.

How disconnected from reality this man could really be?

#86 Ralph Cramdown on 10.15.15 at 8:00 pm

#64 Macduff — “Ad states that Canada is the worst performing economy in the G7, and the only one in recession; it also implies that this is a longstanding scenario attributable to Harper. […] Canada has long been a resource based economy whose fortunes have depended on commodity prices. To attribute our current situation to Harper […]”

…Might be a bit accurate. Canada has been, at various times, a major manufacturer, a world leader in nuclear power and nuclear medicine, a leader in spacecraft and remote sensing, a leader in electronics and communication technology, a leader in global finance for resource companies, a leader in civil engineering and project management, an innovator in aircraft design and manufacture, and probably some other stuff I’ve forgotten.

Harper has been in power almost ten years, and can you sum up his industrial policy? He hasn’t had one. Manufacturing got crushed by the dollar and NAFTA, and he’s let other industries wither or get bought. The only consistent supports for Canadian industry that I’ve seen from him is in homebuilding, and in the energy and pipelines space — and that hasn’t worked out too well.

If Canada is more dependent on commodities than we were ten years ago (and I believe we are), it hasn’t been in spite of Harper’s policies, but because of them.

#87 Linda on 10.15.15 at 8:03 pm

It is interesting how JT is labelled ‘a kid’ – the man is 43 years old as per his bio on Google. Not exactly play pen material. Of course, SH is 56; TM is 60 & EM is 61 as per their bios, so in comparison he is young. That having been said, labels like ‘kid’ & ‘just not ready’ are ironic as SH was a mighty 47 when he ascended to the role of PM as per Google. Given the ages of the other leaders mentioned, whatever happened to never trust anyone over 30? All the other leaders would have grown up with that mantra; only JT is outside the baby boomer group. So is the new mantra only trust those in your age cohort?

#88 Vivek on 10.15.15 at 8:14 pm

Not sure if anyone else pointed it out but there seems to be a typo. The poll result screen shows 14.11% earn below $50,000 not “just over 24%”. I think you added “Under $50000” and “Over $200,000”?

#89 For those about to flop... on 10.15.15 at 8:16 pm

Regarding the low female visitors to this site.
My wife hires a financial adviser and makes the payments and stays out of it but recently due to poor returns(too much maple) and second thoughts about just pumping the RRSP ,she now has a TFSA and is becoming more diversified all because of this blog and she doesn’t even read it!
She comes home from work and says”what’s Garthie got to say ?” And if I think it is something that could help her I regurgitate it verbatim to her.
She is slowly becoming more interested in her finances( let’s face it sometimes it’s hard to get excited about something 20/30 years in the future)but when she gets some spare time she skips the blog and heads for the Kardashians.
At least she is saving and investing for her future.

#90 Nora Lenderby on 10.15.15 at 8:19 pm

#60 Ronaldo on 10.15.15 at 6:32 pm
What’s so bad about that Nora? Would be a heck of a lot more exciting for an old geezer like me to work there than at Walmart or A&W.

Yah, it would also get your blood pressure up a bit, I presume. Either that, or eat more bacon – don’t want you fainting on the job now, do we? :-)

#91 nonplused on 10.15.15 at 8:19 pm

#65 Nora Lenderby

Interesting take on linguistics. I assumed Garth meant “politicians with beards” since he was a politician and is a long time beard sporter. I think your interpretation isn’t probably what he meant. I don’t think they will be legislating against facial hair anytime soon.

#92 lee on 10.15.15 at 8:19 pm

#74,

Way more than ten per cent of Canadians make $100000 or more a year. Don’t listen to Stats Can on this issue. It’s telling you ysterdays news.

#93 Ralph Cramdown on 10.15.15 at 8:20 pm

“Win or lose, Harper will be gone in 18 months. Everyone knows it’s time for renewal in the Conservative Party.”

That was a really odd opinion piece. Obviously the Conservative brain trust didn’t consider the government tired and old when it scheduled a marathon of a campaign. Now it’s “time for renewal” because the voters are throwing them out on their ear. Maybe Harper was planning on taking a walk in the snow, maybe he wasn’t. He has said he thinks he has the best job in Canada, and he’d like to continue.

One thing I miss about Canada that other parliamentary countries have: The power of the caucus to bury a blade, to the hilt, right between the leader’s shoulder blades when he (or she) is past the sell-by date. I’m thinking of Margaret Thatcher, and that chap in Australia just recently.

#94 John in Mtl on 10.15.15 at 8:26 pm

JSS on 10.15.15 at 7:48 pm

What’s up with Walmart stock? It’s down like more than 12% this week.

A good indication of the US consumer demand and “Main Street” economy. Middle class & the poor are B.R.O.K.E. Too much debt and too low a revenue.

#95 crowdedelevatorfartz on 10.15.15 at 8:27 pm

@#46 a female reader
“The smart ones just don’t return after reading all the sexist garbage on this blog and comments…..”

The politically correct blogs are boring. Thats why I fester here.

#96 conan on 10.15.15 at 8:28 pm

More cat pics will even out the demographics.
Science to the rescue!

#97 crowdedelevatorfartz on 10.15.15 at 8:36 pm

@364 MacDuff
“Ad states that Canada is the worst performing economy in the G7, and the only one in recession; ”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Apparently these people are lying too?

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQFjAFahUKEwibzaCQ38XIAhXGLogKHcaTA2k&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbusiness.financialpost.com%2Fnews%2Feconomy%2Fcanadas-economy-gives-and-takes-away&usg=AFQjCNH9SZSq8WtWNNgvvomc9N39WMAlTQ&sig2=VdInW2epxsmz5pXr298mog

I’d trust anyone but Harper these days.

#98 ANON on 10.15.15 at 8:36 pm

Interesting and thank you for publishing this. I have voted for the…*drops the 5 gal popcorn bucket all over the floor*
Ugh, BRB!

#99 MF on 10.15.15 at 8:40 pm

#83 DON on 10.15.15 at 7:55 pm

This is not a knock against your post DON (or you personally), but the idea that females are voting for Trudeau because of how he looks, or his soft/subservient/weak behaviour is completely insulting to the female voters here in Ontario. I’ve read about this a few times on here already.

Here in the GTA, from what I hear at my workplace, or amongst my friends, clients I deal with etc…the majority of female voters can’t stand him for his awful policies.

MF

#100 Ralph Cramdown on 10.15.15 at 8:43 pm

#85 Sheane Wallace — “Wells Fargo just announced 40 % decline in mortgage applications in US “

Yeah right. And they’re giving away a free unicycle riding bear with every mortgage closed.

https://www08.wellsfargomedia.com/assets/pdf/about/press/2015/third-quarter-earnings.pdf

Page 40.

#101 MF on 10.15.15 at 8:44 pm

Lol it does smell a little off when you are here.

MF

#102 MF on 10.15.15 at 8:44 pm

#95 crowdedelevatorfartz on 10.15.15 at 8:27 pm
@#46 a female reader
“The smart ones just don’t return after reading all the sexist garbage on this blog and comments…..”

The politically correct blogs are boring. Thats why I fester here.

-Last post was for crowdedelevatorfartz, of course

MF

#103 omg the original on 10.15.15 at 8:47 pm

I am counting the days until this election is over.

Hearing how the political hacks are going to spend my tax dollars to bribe me is so old.

The frightening thing is people buy all of it as if the promises will be carried through.

We get the politicians we deserve.

#104 JSS on 10.15.15 at 8:49 pm

#94

The fact that Walmart stock is getting punished is a pretty good indication that the US is in trouble.

It’s more an indication retail is going online. — Garth

#105 common sense on 10.15.15 at 8:49 pm

Great story on the booming US economy….

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/10/14/ignore-the-media-bullsht-retail-implosion-proves-we-are-in-recession/

Everything is A-OK!!!!

#106 joblo on 10.15.15 at 8:50 pm

#9 Harper is mentally ill on 10.15.15 at 4:16 pm
You are such a fool harper.

And then there this:

The Book of Moron – The Stephen Harper Musical

https://youtu.be/fskZWq2fuDU

#107 Bottoms_Up on 10.15.15 at 8:50 pm

Interesting Garth, it appears you have exposed the bias in your poll, the ‘male’ factor. Would like to see the outcome of a 85% female vote…

#108 Herf on 10.15.15 at 8:52 pm

#34 Keith in Calgary

“Most of the twenty something’s in our corporate workforce are voting Liberal for this reason as well, because financially they think we are screwed regardless of who gets in.”

So the mantra is “Eat, toke and be high for tomorrow we die”?

#109 Nora Lenderby on 10.15.15 at 8:54 pm

#45 Mf on 10.15.15 at 5:58 pm
My same age co workers (who vote, which is a vast minority) find JT and Mulcair trying to woo votes from us by pandering to the lazy pot heads among us as pathetic 1 and insulting 2…

Criminalization has given the unlucky few criminal records, cost everyone an enormous amount, corrupted the authorities, and brought the administration of justice into disrepute. Oh, and it’s also caused devastating wars in countries to the south of us.

If it were for health effects, we would also ban smoking of tobacco and drinking of alcohol. It’s been tried.

(I am not a smoker of anything, fwiw. You don’t have to be a “lazy pot-head” to support a change in this law.)

However, I’m glad you and your friends are going out to vote :-)

#110 omg the original on 10.15.15 at 8:56 pm

What’s up with Walmart stock? It’s down like more than 12% this week……

A good indication of the US consumer demand and “Main Street” economy. Middle class & the poor are B.R.O.K.E. Too much debt and too low a revenue.
———————–

Or is the US consumer moving up to higher end retailers and buying more online – Amazon is smoking’ and Costco, and TGT are doing OK.

Most of my colleagues in the US (we provide a non-essential home service – ya, I really pick the business to go into) say they are having their best year since pre GFC.

#111 AACI Home-Dog on 10.15.15 at 9:00 pm

Looks like we are good to go then. Thanks Garth…sleep well 1%’ers !

#112 common sense on 10.15.15 at 9:03 pm

#104 JSS

Garth is right again….More on-line shopping for sure as people are now more comfortable with it…I would hate to be brick and mortar unless you can offer intangibles not found online.

Short retail in late Nov and after Xmas. I think it’s going to be a slooooow Xmas retail season.

Any bets when Sears calls it quits?

And just think with no cash being spent only credit cards for on line purchases, when will the cash society and the underground cash economy come to an end?

#113 Sam the Sham on 10.15.15 at 9:04 pm

#26 Lost in Space

the best definition of wealthy:

“A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.” – Henry David Thoreau

#114 the Jaguar on 10.15.15 at 9:08 pm

If the issue is the economy then Harper deserves credit for steering the country through difficult times in the past ten years where other countries faltered and are still teetering. Our present situation is due to fundamental technological changes in the extraction of oil that will impact the country going forward, not any policy or lack or policy the Conservative introduced. Horizontal drilling and fracking have changed the world and will limit where Canadian product will be in demand. No political party had anything to do with that, and Harper tried to get Keystone through, but the americans woke up to the reality that they not only were oil sufficient themselves, they had surplus to sell. Why risk environmental damage (real and political) for temporary construction jobs and a reduction in their own pipeline capacity? They aren’t stupid south of the border, just self absorbed and arrogant. Canada isn’t that different than the US. We stood by and allowed manufacturing jobs to be shipped overseas to increase corporate shareholder value, became a consumer versus producing economy, and now people are tapped out from overspending just when the global dynamic is changing. The Bank of Canada issued warnings, but house lust won out.
People climb on the “hate Steve’ bandwagon because they have no independent thoughts of their own. Yes he has a lot of personal characteristics that are inconsistent with Facebook Nation ( Gee, he actually understands the importance of separating private and public life!). You don’t have to cuddle up with Harper. If you want that then Trudeau might be your choice. He can whisper little sound bites in your ear.
Taking risks on controversial issues (think Niquab) are gutsy, whether you agree with him or not.
Think about it. You have four more days to help decide our future. (Garth, I am not saying he wasn’t a prick to you, but I can’t throw the baby out with the bath water).

#115 Joe on 10.15.15 at 9:12 pm

38 percent of respondents don’t trust people with beards–so much for the IQ of many respondents–no wonder the Cons have such high support on your “poll”

#116 Herf on 10.15.15 at 9:13 pm

#46 A female reader

“Most just don’t return. I guess I’m a sucker for punishment…”

Don’t be punished – just use some discernment and a sense of boredom to filter out the trash comments, and use a mouse with a scroll button and/or scroll wheel to zip past the bozo comments.

#117 Leo Trollstoy on 10.15.15 at 9:18 pm

#53 Mark on 10.15.15 at 6:21 pm

Focus on finding a job that pays more than $15/hr before writing 30,000 posts about them.

Then you might be able to start saving a bit of $

Good luck.

#118 Leo Trollstoy on 10.15.15 at 9:28 pm

#87 Linda on 10.15.15 at 8:03 pm

The reference to JT as a ‘kid’ or ‘not ready’ isn’t because of his age. It’s a reference to the silly things he says to get the votes of silly people.

Only ‘kids’ don’t get this and focus on the age thing while the ‘adults’ silently chuckle as they do when kids say silly things.

Garth’s poll shows that responsible and financially literate Canadians won’t vote for ‘kids’.

But a kid appeals to other kids. So if the kids come out to vote, JT will win.

#119 Leo Trollstoy on 10.15.15 at 9:31 pm

think more women will be voting liberal – trudeau is more appealing and less arrogant

You give too little credit to women (who apparently make federal election choices based on ‘appeal’ and ‘arrogance’)

I think they’re more intelligent than that.

#120 Nora Lenderby on 10.15.15 at 9:31 pm

#80 Gregor Samsa on 10.15.15 at 7:40 pm
I think that Harper losing would actually be a very good thing for the conservative movement in Canada. The party will be forced to rebuild itself as something more palpable. If there was a conservative party in Canada that wasn’t hyper-partisan and “stupid” (aka Harper standing beside Rob Ford) I’d probably vote for them.

I agree. Although I do hope that you meant “palatable” – I just got a horrid image of palpating Mr. Ford the Younger.

I’ll have to go and lie down now with a cold compress on my fevered brow ;-)

#121 Herf on 10.15.15 at 9:35 pm

I’ve wondered why Trudeau had a makeover. Then it hit me:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/article4568910.ece/BINARY/w620/OTW02-CANADA-POLITICS.JPG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Riel

#122 Entrepreneur on 10.15.15 at 9:39 pm

A lot of Conservative and Liberals on this blog…maybe a slight bias persuasive thinking…even Garth uses it. This is why age helps bypass this talk, talk, talk, and after awhile all the talk is useless. Voting Liberals is like voting Conservatives but on a high so you won’t know the difference. By the way, climate change is normal in the past (so let us abuse the earth thinking) but, but don’t we have a brain.

With so many people (reporters, news, writers all vote) will twist one word for their favourite party). Watch, listen and think critically. Is that why they are saying that? Be careful, just one word can change an entire sentence. I even know who Garth is voting for.

I still think the NDP and the Green Party should join forces together. Get rid of the old names and bring in a new one. Played around with some and this was my last one…”Aqua Democracy.” Aqua is a blue-green colour, blue for our water (ocean, lake, rivers), green for the land and democracy (with what we have left after the Lib and Con, my experience throughout my years voting).

#123 Dave on 10.15.15 at 9:40 pm

In tomorrow’s post will you discuss how the Fed is starting to look like they will keep interest rates exactly where they are until after the presidential election?

#124 Garth Knows Who I Am on 10.15.15 at 9:45 pm

Not surprised by the 85% women statistic – this is a very testosterone filled blog with some definite misogynists among the blog dogs (not our host). My usual handle is deliberately ambiguous and I am sure most assume I’m male (don’t worry – I’m not Smoking Man :-) ).

#125 Charles Ponzi on 10.15.15 at 9:46 pm

I don’t trust any politician–with or without a beard.

#126 Ralph Cramdown on 10.15.15 at 9:47 pm

The crackpots are out tonight. When stocks are high they complain that it’s all artificial and blame the Fed. When they’re low it’s because the world is ending.

Walmart is an amazing retailer with the world’s best logistics. Its shares are $60 and management estimates it will generate $25/share of cash over the next three years. It’s 1/3 off its 52 week high because of currency fluctuations and heart palpitations, and anyone who isn’t buying it this week or during tax loss selling season is a fool. This is one of those opportunities that people say they’re waiting for.

#127 Washed Up Lawyer on 10.15.15 at 9:49 pm

I am wondering if the entertainment scene in Toronto is about to hit a new high. In the early to mid ’80’s I saw “Cats” and “Les Miserables” in my sojourns to Hogtown from Edmonton.

The Ford brothers rally for PMSH in the 905 on Saturday night is going to provide material for local playwrights for many years.

It will bring down the house (of Commons).

Nagraj, please take a stab at Act I.

#128 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 9:49 pm

#87 Linda on 10.15.15 at 8:03 pm
It is interesting how JT is labelled ‘a kid’ – the man is 43 years old as per his bio on Google. Not exactly play pen material. Of course, SH is 56; TM is 60 & EM is 61 as per their bios, so in comparison he is young. That having been said, labels like ‘kid’ & ‘just not ready’ are ironic as SH was a mighty 47 when he ascended to the role of PM as per Google. Given the ages of the other leaders mentioned, whatever happened to never trust anyone over 30? All the other leaders would have grown up with that mantra; only JT is outside the baby boomer group. So is the new mantra only trust those in your age cohort?
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As far as being a Politician goes, he’s just now learning to wipe.

If you had invested 10g’s into a company that announced today that they wanted to bring a bright eyed bushy tailed bush-league infantile like Trudeau on as CEO, you would think that’s a-ok?

#129 Nemesis on 10.15.15 at 9:50 pm

#WhatDoesYourBeardSayAboutYou?… #TelegraphPictorial…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/fashion-and-style/11932827/What-does-your-beard-say-about-you.html

#130 Holy Crap where's the Pot on 10.15.15 at 9:50 pm

Being inhaled deeply Tuesday AM. Harpo’s toast.

#131 Yankee on 10.15.15 at 9:59 pm

Did you know that a Canadian who has lived and worked in the USA for 10 years or more can not only collect a messily Canadian retirement pension but also a much more substantial US retirement pension?

And no, the IRS does not require you to file a tax return forever. That only applies to US Citizens which is not the goal.

Tell that to all the government workers in Illinois who’s pensions are kaput. Illinois is bankrupt and so is the old USofEh.

#132 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 9:59 pm

#119 Leo Trollstoy on 10.15.15 at 9:31 pm
think more women will be voting liberal – trudeau is more appealing and less arrogant

You give too little credit to women (who apparently make federal election choices based on ‘appeal’ and ‘arrogance’)

I think they’re more intelligent than that.
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Indeed, and more than just intelligence. I work with a woman who if she found out you were going to vote for Trudeau, would proceed to kick your ass down the hall, out the front door, tie you to the back of her 4×4 1 ton dually quad cab diesel ( complete with truck nutz), and then drag your sorry carcass down the street ensuring she hit every pothole along the way.

We’d all be out there cheering her on too for fear of reprisals…

#133 Obvious Truth on 10.15.15 at 10:00 pm

Now, a few words… Best paragraph ever!!

85% men, hmmmm…the ballot box folks…the kid might do like Joey bats….outright win the thing!!

#134 Wicked as it seems on 10.15.15 at 10:00 pm

I make less than 50k now because I am retired and live in Thailand…..but I have 500k in cash and investments working for me. Rent everything!
Garth is my guru since 2009 and part of the reason I live in SE Asia is my total hate of Harper.

#135 Cracknation for Harpo on 10.15.15 at 10:05 pm

How low can Harpo go………… 4 days to find a new bottom! Yeah baby you can do it.

#136 Cici on 10.15.15 at 10:08 pm

I’m suprised so many people trust politicians with beards…Mulcair has a beard, but I don’t believe he would be capable of delivering on most of his election promises…

#137 Smoking Man on 10.15.15 at 10:13 pm

We all hate the bastard. But need to vote for him. The other choices are insane.

But were not lucky like you, having all that crazy fun on patpong street.

Memories…. Ahhhhhh

#138 Bottoms_Up on 10.15.15 at 10:19 pm

#74 steerage steward on 10.15.15 at 7:26 pm
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Good idea. Your analysis thus shows the voters on this blog under-represent less than 50k incomes, and over-represent 100k+ and 200k+ incomes.

#139 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 10:23 pm

#73 BS on 10.15.15 at 7:21 pm
I have a question for one of our resident economic experts and Harper supporters.

Just what in our economic record over the last nine years inspires you with the confidence that our future prosperity depends on him and/or the CPC continuing in power?

Low taxes, low unemployment, smaller government and a robust economy that supports economic growth and business. The opposite of what you would get with Jr. Trudeau or Mulcair. Harper is not prefect but his policies are head and shoulders above those of the alternatives.
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As well as a pair of brass ones that clank.

Harper’s time may be up. I’ll miss the testosterone we’ve had in Canadian Politics during his tenure.

I sure don’t look forward to social media outrages on Twitter shaping future Policy in Canada under Trudeau. Even his dad had a pair, didn’t clank as loud as Harpers, but still some metallic noises occasionally.

I hope JT finds something non-ferrous in his trousers – and soon.

#140 Holy Crap Wheres The Tylenol on 10.15.15 at 10:24 pm

#103 omg the original on 10.15.15 at 8:47 pm
I am counting the days until this election is over.

Hearing how the political hacks are going to spend my tax dollars to bribe me is so old.

The frightening thing is people buy all of it as if the promises will be carried through.

We get the politicians we deserve.
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So much truth in your statement. Great post!

#141 Holy Crap Wheres The Tylenol on 10.15.15 at 10:27 pm

Something is wrong here, haven’t seen any astute comments from Smoking Man? Smoky you’ve been quiet of late, are you OK?

#142 West Coast on 10.15.15 at 10:29 pm

okay, Garth – let’s discuss secession – hey why bother – we all live (at least temporarily) in ‘Garthland’…so what if Garthland is a bit skewed in terms of m/f ratio and attracts those with no sense of humor …….it’s still the place to be – no matter which party wins the election……

#143 Ralph Cramdown on 10.15.15 at 10:33 pm

#128 IHCTD9 — “As far as being a Politician goes, he’s just now learning to wipe.”

I wish our next prime minister was somebody with perhaps a bit more experience and gravitas, but it is what it is.

Trudeau has already won three elections. The most important one was leader of the Liberal party. For all its recent tribulations, that is still one of the most coveted political jobs in Canada, and winning it is no easy feat (I have no explanation for Stéphane Dion).

He’s on track to win a fourth. Except in the event of an outright Conservative majority or a constitutional crisis by Harper’s Governor General, Trudeau WILL be the next PM, because neither the Liberals nor the NDP will vote for the Conservative throne speech. In this campaign, he has overcome the perceived handicaps of youth and inexperience, and a lot of Conservative attack ads, to take the third place party into first, against two articulate, worthy and well-funded opponents.

If that isn’t the definition of political success, what is?

#144 Bottoms_Up on 10.15.15 at 10:34 pm

#33 MSM-Free Zone on 10.15.15 at 5:12 pm
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Right, so the 1% is allowed to own greater than 50% of the wealth, but they are not allowed to be taxed any higher than 50%. When will the inequality madness end?

#145 Smoking Man on 10.15.15 at 10:37 pm

Something demented in me wants you little dumb ass tree hugers get the govt you wish for. If i didn’t have kids of my own, I would be flying orange and red signs all over my lawn. Just out of vengeful psychosis.

Im voting blue..for my kids.

I despise Harpo for his NutAndYahoo worship. But the fact that Canada has weatherd well since 2008 has alot to do with that relationship. Sorry ive felt poverty and bankruptcy, my wallet dose my voting.

Good news is TPP my ios genius son will be able to go to San Francisco to work and learn.

Theres nothing here. Just teet sucking parasite’s looking for hand outs.

Entrepreneurs in canada are looked apone like hard drinking smokers by the educated class.

#146 Moses71 on 10.15.15 at 10:38 pm

Oops! Missed the vote yesterday.
44yr old female making $90k. Not married. Rent in Calgary & own house in Kelowna with sister with a mortgage.
Usually vote Green to keep them visible but voted Trudeau cuz he’s a ’71 baby like me & I’m sick of seeing Harper’s lying old face

#147 Smoking Man on 10.15.15 at 10:44 pm

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1275480-wayne-simmons-fox-news-terrorism-expert-in-custody-after-it-was-found-out-he-got-a-real-intelligence-position-based-on-fictional-27-years-of-service-in-the-cia/

Ha..what a shitty dumb lier.
Bahahaha.

#148 Leo Trollstoy on 10.15.15 at 10:46 pm

Wow even left-leaning author in a left-wing rag like the HuffPost doesn’t even think JT is ready.

That’s saying something.

http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8288558

psst, just a clue to all you kids, they’re not talking about his physical age.

#149 Leo Trollstoy on 10.15.15 at 10:49 pm

Usually vote Green to keep them visible but voted Trudeau cuz he’s a ’71 baby like me & I’m sick of seeing Harper’s lying old face

Well, I had ASSUMED, that women considered more variables and were more intelligent when it came down to voting decisions…

#150 Smoking Man on 10.15.15 at 10:51 pm

#141 Holy Crap Wheres The Tylenol on 10.15.15 at 10:27 pm
Something is wrong here, haven’t seen any astute comments from Smoking Man? Smoky you’ve been quiet of late, are you OK?
….

New gig, studying like a basterd.. I’m completing against a double professor..Math and Physics. Phd.

I got this stupid competative gene.

I want to get into the position so I can help the guy, I like him.

This shit is not easy…but in two weeks now. Im about 3 months ahead where im expected to be.

#151 John in Mtl on 10.15.15 at 10:52 pm

#104 JSS on 10.15.15 at 8:49 pm
#94 The fact that Walmart stock is getting punished is a pretty good indication that the US is in trouble.</b

It’s more an indication retail is going online. — Garth

Dunno if Walmart makes a distinction in their earnings, wether its retail online sales or retail brick-and-mortar sales. I doubt it but I don’t read their earnings report.

#152 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 10:55 pm

#144 Bottoms_Up on 10.15.15 at 10:34 pm
#33 MSM-Free Zone on 10.15.15 at 5:12 pm
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Right, so the 1% is allowed to own greater than 50% of the wealth, but they are not allowed to be taxed any higher than 50%. When will the inequality madness end?
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Ahhh, another poor soul who has not broken through the $16.50/hr barrier into the high exalted mystic ruler 1%er club.

We’re all rooting for you son!

#153 Nagraj on 10.15.15 at 10:58 pm

Anybody else get a loada Laureeny Harper Bollywood-dancing on stage in Brampton?
Wow.
That’s one happy First Lady.
She was terrific.

(I myself love Bollywood. I got many Bollywood movies.) (That’s what’s wrong with Canada: line dancing. Sicko.)

In my last post I kinda rewrote Richard III’s last soliloquy (“Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I’m gonna go eat worms”) and put it into Harpo’s mouth, and then I painted Laureeny as coldly unsympathetic vis-a-vis Harpo’s soul-agonies.
Well! Was I right or what, when I had her say, “Oh lighten up.”

Bet she gotta lotta men friends. How could she not? Pretty, dances Bollywood! And then there’s that morose ugly pot-bellied grey-haired political twitch of a husband –

Laureeny kicked up her heels, waved her arms, jumped up ‘n’ down, she was havin’ a grand time. Good for her.
Livin’ in the moment.

[Google AGNEEPATH SONGS, click on VIDEOS, then click on CHIKNI CHAMELI ]

#154 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 11:11 pm

#143 Ralph Cramdown on 10.15.15 at 10:33 pm
#128 IHCTD9 — “As far as being a Politician goes, he’s just now learning to wipe.”

I wish our next prime minister was somebody with perhaps a bit more experience and gravitas, but it is what it is.

Trudeau has already won three elections. The most important one was leader of the Liberal party. For all its recent tribulations, that is still one of the most coveted political jobs in Canada, and winning it is no easy feat (I have no explanation for Stéphane Dion).

He’s on track to win a fourth. Except in the event of an outright Conservative majority or a constitutional crisis by Harper’s Governor General, Trudeau WILL be the next PM, because neither the Liberals nor the NDP will vote for the Conservative throne speech. In this campaign, he has overcome the perceived handicaps of youth and inexperience, and a lot of Conservative attack ads, to take the third place party into first, against two articulate, worthy and well-funded opponents.

If that isn’t the definition of political success, what is?
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It’ll have to be success on the job in my book. We’ll see how he does, economy is front and centre.

To me, he’s a jellyfish, Hillary Clinton would eat him alive. Imagine Trudeau and Putin sitting down negotiating foreign policy. He’d probably take monetary policy advice from Robert Mugabe. He needs to sign up for Man school, take up boxing, grow some hair on his back, buy a C63 AMG Black Series.

Love to be wrong, doubt I will be. Time will tell, but I’d rather have Mulcair running the show than JT, and that is an astonishing statement coming from a guy like me.

#155 JimH on 10.15.15 at 11:12 pm

#62 Mark on 10.15.15 at 6:50 pm
“Anyone watching the meteoric rise of the junior/mid-tier gold and silver miners over the past few weeks? Was that a bottom? Or is this just a dead cat bounce on the way to even lower lows?
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Generally, Mark, I hold the view that predictions are the province of fools and bar-fighters.

GDX (Market Vectors® Gold Miners ETF) has climbed about 21% over the past month. GDXJ (Market Vectors® Junior Gold Miners ETF) has climbed about 14% over the same period.

Both ETF’s are highly overextended. This implies a high-risk/low-probability trade scenario; of Las Vegas fame, the same.

A pull-back to the levels of early October and the establishment of a firm higher-low would be healthy, and, if these move above a rising 5-DMA with flat/rising 15 and 25 DMA’s, then the trade would be lower-risk/higher-probabilty and more attractive.

That’s a short-term trader’s perspective. Long-term prudent investors would look at oil as a gamble at today’s levels and would ignore, hedge with options, move to leaps, or ignore all juniors and look for value (if there is any) in the larger caps…

But, what do I know…

#156 JimH on 10.15.15 at 11:14 pm

meant to say, “oil and precious metals”… etc.

#157 Yuus bin Haad on 10.15.15 at 11:15 pm

That Harper. What a hoser, eh? Scheduling a date with Bob and Doug was the last straw for Lynton. Wait’l Steve finds out it’s just a Scarlett Heights reunion and not Kanadian Korner. HA! Wait a minute … maybe it IS Kanadian Korner – double HA!

#158 nonplused on 10.15.15 at 11:35 pm

#115 Joe

It’s not people with beards that 38%, it’s politicians in general including those with beards! It was a trick cutesy question!

A number of people commented on the lack of female readers or poll respondents including the theme that “they have a life”. Well maybe they do. My wife is watching reruns of “Dancing With The Stars” on Netflix right now. Maybe that’s better, don’t know.

#159 nonplused on 10.15.15 at 11:42 pm

Here is the thing. If you are a Conservative you have to vote for your MP this election and all we can hope is that Harper doesn’t win his own seat. That is probably pretty idealistic, he’ll win. But the worst thing that can happen is that people who aren’t in Harper’s riding vote against him and we end up doing an Alberta self mutilation. Then it will truly be time for the Americans to be dealing with illegal immigrants on their other border. Sell everything and get out.

#160 kommykim on 10.15.15 at 11:50 pm

RE:

#59 Edward on 10.15.15 at 6:29 pm
“Before dismissing the Conservatives, voters should consider one thing.
Win or lose, Harper will be gone in 18 months.

It’s just too risky. If we vote CON, he’ll remain cocky and stay on as leader for another 4 years.

#161 Jon on 10.15.15 at 11:54 pm

As 85% of the pollers were men, the majority of them being over 30…I wonder how these questions would change if the split was 50/50 men and women taking the poll?

#162 BG on 10.15.15 at 11:55 pm

One of the most important issues was the Niqab.
Unfortunately, most people will not realize it until it’s too late.

Just look at what happened in France, decades of leftist political correctness and now around Paris you can’t put a French flag at your window without being considered as the old grumpy racist man of the building.

And when there are occasions to celebrate something and raise a flag, you will see just as many Algerian, Moroccan, Tunisian flags waved in the crowd, by people born French but who certainly don’t feel French.

Next thing you know, your own tolerant and secular values and laws are used against you. You can’t put a Christmas tree at work because it’s a “religious symbol”.
You go to the public swimming pool only to realize your usual schedule has been closed in order to accommodate Muslim women who don’t want to attend the pool while men are there.

Etc.

Tolerance is an admirable value.
But when not reciprocated it becomes Submission.

#163 kommykim on 10.15.15 at 11:58 pm

RE:

#64 Macduff on 10.15.15 at 6:57 pm
Ad states that Canada is the worst performing economy in the G7, and the only one in recession; it also implies that this is a longstanding scenario attributable to Harper.

If Harper is going to claim credit for Canada sailing through the GFC unscathed, then he’s going to have to except the blame for the saggy economy today.

#164 Bottoms_Up on 10.16.15 at 12:01 am

#152 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 10:55 pm
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Sorry to disappoint, but I am a 15%’er (and possibly 10%’er based on family income). I just happen to share a quite common disposition that our roads don’t get paved for free, teachers deserve fair, living wages, and healthcare shouldn’t bankrupt a family. You can’t get blood from a stone….the middle class is tapped out, as evidenced by debt load.

Taxes buy the rich civilization. Until they don’t. The arguement of whether the rich pay their fair share will always be legitimate. But the facts are the facts, never before has so much wealth been held by so few.

#165 Kenchie on 10.16.15 at 12:23 am

Garth,

I’m sure you know this, but some blog dogs need a reminder, that lower taxes may help pay for school, but it doesn’t buy class.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/15/stephen-harper-master-manipulator

And Harper has no class at all.

#166 Victoria Real Estate Update on 10.16.15 at 12:26 am

# 85 Sheanne Wallace

The deep-rooted economic problems of a country can’t be solved by trying to inflate a housing bubble. It hasn’t worked for any country in the past. It can be argued that it ruins the economy in the long run.

It seems like madness. When will they realize that it won’t work?

#167 Herf on 10.16.15 at 12:27 am

I had pondered if/when the next Alberta economic downturn would eventually happen, but I had expected it to be precipitated by government meddling from Ottawa similar to the NEP of 1980. I hadn’t counted on outside forces such as the OPECers.

Here’s a little history lesson for those who were still in diapers in 1980:

http://boereport.com/2015/10/06/remember-when-albertas-economy-and-trudeau-the-elder/

(Are any of those bumper stickers noted in the article still around? Are they collectors’ items?).

#168 Ponzius Pilatus on 10.16.15 at 12:55 am

I hope that we kick Harper the Economist out.
Even a Lawyer could do a better job.
Harper kept interest rates low to encourage people to buy inflated houses.
Now, no ordinary Canadian can afford to buy a home.
Worst Prime Minister by far.

#169 Ponzius Pilatus on 10.16.15 at 1:00 am

Harper could have even given Machiavelly a few pointers on how to screw the voters.

#170 The Great Canadian Bubble Co. on 10.16.15 at 1:09 am

I miss the long form census. Thanks for doing this Garth!

#171 Nagraj on 10.16.15 at 1:10 am

For the WASHED UP LAWYER

“The Last Rally”
ACT I, Sc i
Campaign headquarters. Several men with grim expression. All wear sweaters. Because every time Con polls drop, Harper turns down their office thermostat another notch. One man’s arm is in a cast.

ENTER Willy.
Willy: Guys! Guys! He went for it! He went for it!

They all laugh and high-five one another.

ACT I Sc ii
A very messy living room. Two identical bald fat men, Rob and Doug, sitting on a sofa. The phone rings. One of the bald fat men answers it.
Doug: Rob! Guess what! Stevie wants a Ford Nation rally! Great, eh!
Rob: Senators, we’s as good as senators already, brother.
Doug: Brother Senator, how many thousands kin we git to come?
Rob: A hunnert thousand, brother Senator, a hunnert thousand for good ol’ Steve!

ACT I Sc iii
The Harper bedroom.
Laureeny yelling: How many times do I have tell you? No! Get this through your thick skull, I will NOT do the tango with Rob Ford! I’d rather kill myself first!

#172 Herf on 10.16.15 at 1:12 am

The following video (link below) has been making the rounds. It raises questions about Justin Trudeau’s ties to certain groups and individuals. One such group (IRFAN) had its charitable status revoked by CRA in 2011 for practising what CRA deemed “deceptive fund-raising” that purportedly funneled $15 million to Hamas. IRFAN was subsequently listed as a terrorist organization by the federal government in 2014:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/chrts-gvng/chrts/whtsnw/trrrst-ntty-eng.html

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/sponsor-of-upcoming-islamic-event-featuring-justin-trudeau-lost-charitable-status-due-to-hamas-link

If you freeze-frame the video at various segments, you can read certain official documents used to support the video maker’s claims.

The video appears to have first been posted here, but the video poster claims it keeps getting removed from this particular web site:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x384xvz_truth-about-justin-trudeau-and-the-liberals-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86-%D8%AD%D9%82%D9%8A%D9%82%D8%A9-%D8%AD%D9%88%D9%84_news

TheRebel.media has posted it with the disclaimer that TheRebel.media is not the source and that they leave it to the viewer to form their own opinion/conclusions:

http://www.therebel.media/viral_video_the_truth_about_justin_trudeau

#173 Smartalox on 10.16.15 at 1:14 am

@ Linda:

The reason Harper made JT’s age an issue with the ‘Just not Ready’ bit was to attempt to play politics with a generational wedge. He bet that the wrinkly boomers would feel threatened by a Gen Xer taking the reins of power. Especially one whom the boomers might recall as a geeky looking child in the public eye. Nostalgia is a powerful sedative, and remembering Justin Trudeau as a young man made the core of Harper’s base feel younger, too.

Of course Stephen Harper was also sure that nobody would have any memory of his youth as president of the young Liberals club at his high school, or his stoied career as a nepotism-hire mail boy at Imperial Oil.

#174 totally confused on 10.16.15 at 1:23 am

City of Toronto is talking abt new “revenue tools” to pay for the city’s rising costs. Is it about time we all realize we can’t afford to pay someone $125000 a year to drive a bus?

#175 Moses71 on 10.16.15 at 1:24 am

Hey leo, of course I considered more variables and am more intelligent when considering decisions.
It’s a just a funny post. Sorry if I make more money than yr gf, dumbass
Didn’t I vote for the party you like?
To each to it’s own

#176 Freedom First on 10.16.15 at 1:59 am

Not surprised at all if female readership is low on this Blog. Home ownership is the Holy Grail of MIL’s, TBOM (the bank of Mom), and [email protected] Balanced, liquid, and diversified Portfolios be damned. Hell, half the letters and comments written to/on this Blog are from guys being pressured to buy a house by their wives. Bubble prices be damned.

Personally, everyone knows I love women. Just won’t live with them. Too high risk for me.

#177 Frank on 10.16.15 at 2:30 am

Nearly 85% is male?

Not surprising given the sexism. Not that Garth is consciously sexist but he definitely speaks like a man his age. Unaware of the dialogue of newer generations.

I see it myself. At 31 my generation still thinks saying ‘a that’s gay’ as a way to refer to something unpleasant is acceptable parlance. We’re not generally homophobic, that was just the school yard verbage of our time. I spend time with teenagers of today and they’re much more sensitive to feelings of their homosexual peers. They realize that referring to things you don’t like with an unrelated sexual orientation makes those people feel no so great.

Anyways, at least Garth isn’t like the generation before him. My grandparents, love ’em to death, say the most racially inappropriate things now and then.

We’re getting better step-by-step. Oh election shit? I dunno, they’re so gay. I’mma call a Liberal minority with 37.8% popular vote.

#178 Tired on 10.16.15 at 2:33 am

ndp will loose a few in quebec. I don’t like him but I think that Harper will have a bigger minority govt than what people expect. If Harper looses, the conservatives will vanquish Harper. Too much of a bully within his own party.

#179 DON on 10.16.15 at 3:10 am

#99 MF on 10.15.15 at 8:40 pm
#83 DON on 10.15.15 at 7:55 pm

This is not a knock against your post DON (or you personally), but the idea that females are voting for Trudeau because of how he looks, or his soft/subservient/weak behaviour is completely insulting to the female voters here in Ontario. I’ve read about this a few times on here already.

Here in the GTA, from what I hear at my workplace, or amongst my friends, clients I deal with etc…the majority of female voters can’t stand him for his awful policies.

MF
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I was not meaning to insult women. By using the word appealing – I am referring to family man, doesn’t come across as condescending, has a trusting demeanor, a good son, a good husband (or so it appears) unfortunately our world is still about appearances. I wish it were not the case – but it is for now.

Why the difference between Garth’s poll (majority men) and the other polls that put Trudeau ahead. Trudeau is more of a package deal than the other two. Same age as Harper when he started and a real job in his background.

Too bad I am a strategic voter just throwing away my vote, Elizabeth Mays worst nightmare. To bad we could have her as Prime Minister. We need a new voting system.

Just saying…reality and human nature is involved here. Harper telling women what to wear was a gamble. I would never tell my wife what she can and cannot where, I value being able to sleep with two eyes closed.

The best for Canada at this time is a minority government, not the “slow and steady as she goes” into the abyss crap mentioned on this blog.

#180 DON on 10.16.15 at 3:16 am

#154 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 11:11 pm

To me, he’s a jellyfish, Hillary Clinton would eat him alive. Imagine Trudeau and Putin sitting down negotiating foreign policy. He’d probably take monetary policy advice from Robert Mugabe. He needs to sign up for Man school, take up boxing, grow some hair on his back, buy a C63 AMG Black Series.

Love to be wrong, doubt I will be. Time will tell, but I’d rather have Mulcair running the show than JT, and that is an astonishing statement coming from a guy like me.
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Can you imagine harper sitting down with Putin. Oh yes “Get out of Ukraine”. lol

At least the NDP leader might have more tact, strategy, diplomacy…now there’s a word.

#181 Birds of a Feather... on 10.16.15 at 3:57 am

Honestly, your poll is biased and you know it.

There was no random selection of participants here; hence, bias from the words “get go”.

True, enough people to make the stats statistically significant but with bias. Audience is well to do or want to be and are conservative (as in cautious) investors (e.g., TFSA, ETFs).

Certainly not your Wall Street margin call, put/buy option, LBO and derivatives swash buckling crowd.

A self fulfilling poll is the result…birds of a feather…

Vindication comes Monday night about the bias in and constituency of this poll.

One thing Garth, good marketing survey about whom reads your blog and why…smart guy in the end…your double edged sword where the marketing edge is a tad bit sharper that the political edge.

#182 Tony on 10.16.15 at 4:12 am

Re: #25 DreamingIntechniColour on 10.15.15 at 4:42 pm

Wait for oil to make new lows and bid 50 cents on the dollar as the foreclosures pile up. Just keep bidding.

#183 David on 10.16.15 at 6:47 am

It would be interesting to have ask if participants could declare themselves rural, small town or not. Harper has always claimed this demographic.

#184 wacko is normal is braindead little canada on 10.16.15 at 7:16 am

I work and reside outside Canada and pay zero Canadian tax and thus couldn’t give a crap about the election results…but Canadians should. The leftist propaganda is baffling ….. how stupid the average person has become after years of media screams for a Hate Harper coup. It looks like Canadians have actually been swilling that bathwater.

Look at the reality of how foreign influences have hamstrung our energy sector……is that Harpers fault….or a media too concerned about being bounced from Liberal favour?

http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/the-11-million-dollar-question-for-tides-canada.html

It wasn’t politics that drove me from Canada…I left willingly for the abundant opportunities elsewhere in the world. As Bob Dog posted yesterday the TN Visa opportunities for newly minted millenials in the US paying high wages and offering a much higher lifestyle is a fact. I doubled my industry salary by leaving the country. Best thing is the lower tax…half what I pay in Canookistan……and no $7000 p/a year in CPP and EI taken as indirect taxation. No State tax in TX either.

Bottom line…be careful what you wish for…you just might get it. Voting for higher taxes and bigger government is just pathetic capitulation based on an ideology of zero opportunity.

#185 Sam the Sham on 10.16.15 at 7:31 am

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#186 pbrasseur on 10.16.15 at 7:42 am

I don’t trust any politicians because ALL of them have illimited power to take from me anything I own or earn.

We should start a new party dedicated to limit governement fiscal powers, call it the “Tax reform party” or something. Nothing could do the economy more good.

Then lets have all the elections you want…

#187 maxx on 10.16.15 at 7:45 am

#12 bob Dog on 10.15.15 at 4:18 pm

“Did you know that a Canadian who has lived and worked in the USA for 10 years or more can not only collect a messily Canadian retirement pension but also a much more substantial US retirement pension?”

And the great thing about foreign pensions from countries that have stronger currencies is that the lower the CAD goes, the more Canuck bucks you get. If the CAD returns to par, just turn the taps over to an account in the currency of origin. Yum, yum. Hedges and takes some of the sting out of dumb Canadian central bank policy.

#188 pbrasseur on 10.16.15 at 7:53 am

#158 nonplused

« My wife is watching reruns of “Dancing With The Stars” on Netflix right now.»

I sympathize :-)

I’ve tried to train mine to wach Game Of Throne but when some fellow got stabbed if the eye that was the end of that…

#189 maxx on 10.16.15 at 7:56 am

#25 DreamingIntechniColour on 10.15.15 at 4:42 pm

“Waiting for the good deals to emerge in Alberta

………………VULCH!!!”

Easy, lest you end up helping to put a floor under this re idiocy. Or help stabilize realtard commissions.

#190 maxx on 10.16.15 at 8:03 am

#32 Sixtyfourk on 10.15.15 at 5:03 pm

Was well aware, however I trust Garth. Risk worth taking.

#191 maxx on 10.16.15 at 8:11 am

#35 Randy on 10.15.15 at 5:21 pm

“I would love to have U.S. House Prices here.”

No kidding. Their 30-year terms and tax deductible interest has had me licking my chops. Imagine what the average blog dawg could do with that. Land of opportunity indeed.

It’s a helluva slog to save in Canada, but in the U.S., if you keep your lifestyle aspirations under control whilst you’re young, (far greater temptation there) you can make and keep an absolute fortune.

#192 crowdedelevatorfartz on 10.16.15 at 8:26 am

@#181 Birds of a Feather and all other “poll whiners”

“Honestly, your poll is biased and you know it.”
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The poll was a fun, tounge in cheek, semi informative survey of the readers of this blog.
If you dont like the results you can always cancel your paid subscription or stop reading.
OR you can start your own blog, edit /manitain the 1000’s of daily comments, on your time ….for free.

#193 Ralph Cramdown on 10.16.15 at 9:14 am

#159 nonplused — “But the worst thing that can happen is that people who aren’t in Harper’s riding vote against him and we end up doing an Alberta self mutilation.”

I know that the Conservatives are running strong candidates in many ridings. But not in mine. They’re running another MP’s office assistant. A complete lightweight compared to the other candidates.

Do not blame the electorate for making this a referendum on Harper. By branding it “The Harper Government,” he has made it about himself. The attack ads that have been running for almost a year now have focused not on policy, but on a man to man comparison between Harper and the opponent he rudely and dismissively refers to as “Justin.” Don’t blame the voters for a failed campaign strategy.

There are several commenters who feel that, no matter how out-of-touch, oppressive and tone-deaf a conservative government gets, voters should hold their noses and vote like fence posts. The recent Alberta election should have disabused the Conservative brain trust of the notion that there are enough of those to get re-elected. They could have rebranded, or chosen a new leader a year ago, but instead they made the campaign about Harper, KNOWING that his approval ratings were fourth(!) among party leaders, and at historic lows in June this year:

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/06/05/the-ekos-poll-harpers-approval-numbers-hitting-near-historical-lows/

What kind of brain trust builds an election campaign around its party’s biggest liability?

#194 Nora Lenderby on 10.16.15 at 9:28 am

#154 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 11:11 pm
To me, he’s a jellyfish, Hillary Clinton would eat him alive. Imagine Trudeau and Putin sitting down negotiating foreign policy. He’d probably take monetary policy advice from Robert Mugabe. He needs to sign up for Man school, take up boxing, grow some hair on his back, buy a C63 AMG Black Series.

Hmm…you do know he beat the living daylights out of Mr. Patrick Brazeau, don’t you? (or would have done if the ref hadn’t stopped him):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuSpZ3_5pTc

Not that I think that every politician should be a pugilist, but he isn’t as hopeless as you say.

My concern is about his last name; that is, I don’t much care for the idea of political dynasties, but it seems to be the way the world works.

He does have some decent cabinet material in his party though, so all isn’t lost even if he wins.

#195 Bottoms_Up on 10.16.15 at 9:32 am

Garth there’s a couple interesting things you could do with this poll.
You could weight the female vote x3.3 and weight the male vote x0.6 and that would give you close to the average voting demographic in terms of gender. You could also look at the canadian stats in post #74, and weight the vote based on actual representation of income in canada (so your 200k+ voters would get a weighting of about 0.1, whereas your under 50k voters would get a weighting of x2). This would bring it in line with canadian average.

Why? It’s a snapshot of how the people who frequent this blog are thinking. — Garth

#196 Broke Dick on 10.16.15 at 9:47 am

85% male?
So when can we expect to see pic’s of hot chicks again?

#197 IHCTD9 on 10.16.15 at 9:49 am

#164 Bottoms_Up on 10.16.15 at 12:01 am
#152 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 10:55 pm
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Sorry to disappoint, but I am a 15%’er (and possibly 10%’er based on family income). I just happen to share a quite common disposition that our roads don’t get paved for free, teachers deserve fair, living wages, and healthcare shouldn’t bankrupt a family. You can’t get blood from a stone….the middle class is tapped out, as evidenced by debt load.

Taxes buy the rich civilization. Until they don’t. The arguement of whether the rich pay their fair share will always be legitimate. But the facts are the facts, never before has so much wealth been held by so few.
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I think you’ve missed my point – if you make more than 34,000 a year YOU are a 1%er yourself on a global scale per the article referenced.

So unless you will be accepting complaints about income inequality from Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, doth best not protest too much…

#198 Ralph Cramdown on 10.16.15 at 9:49 am

#155 IHCTD9 — “Time will tell, but I’d rather have Mulcair running the show than JT, and that is an astonishing statement coming from a guy like me.”

I agree with you (as to Mulcair the man, as distinct from his party), and I could give more names I’d prefer: Bob Rae, Frank McKenna, maybe even Tony Clement, gazebos and all. JT is unseasoned, and it’s a crapshoot. But he’ll have a capable cabinet and team in the PMO.

The whole Harper affair is bizarre. How could a man who helped “unite the right,” then governed through two minority parliaments end up so divisive and polarizing that another minority government is ruled out even before the votes are counted?

“Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable – the art of the next best.” — Chancellor Otto von Bismarck

#199 Nora Lenderby on 10.16.15 at 9:56 am

#162 BG on 10.15.15 at 11:55 pm
One of the most important issues was the Niqab.

Surely the most important thing is that a politician thinks more of his fading career than of the public good.

You seem to have little faith in the ability of Canada to accomodate everyone. So sorry that your vision of nationhood isn’t reality.

You go to the public swimming pool only to realize your usual schedule has been closed in order to accommodate Muslim women who don’t want to attend the pool while men are there.

If this really happens to you, go another time or to another pool.

I myself have been disturbed by the appearance and antics of portly gentlemen in speedos. It certainly frightens the children :-)

#200 bdy sktrn on 10.16.15 at 10:07 am

METRO VANCOUVER — Single-family home owners in Vancouver and the surrounding area should be prepared for significant increases in property assessments in January, according to BC Assessment.

Jason Grant, the Greater Vancouver regional assessor, said Thursday that homeowners can expect increases of 15 to 25 per cent when assessment notices are mailed out early in 2016. Owners of strata-title condominiums can expect increases of five to 10 per cent.

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but, but… but VREU said with certainty 2 years ago, that is was such a bad time to buy in vancouver, and the bubble was popping. WRONG 100%.

#201 Gerry Gold on 10.16.15 at 10:13 am

#12 Bob Dog

““Did you know that a Canadian who has lived and worked in the USA for 10 years or more can not only collect a messily Canadian retirement pension but also a much more substantial US retirement pension?”

I was in the Club Lounge of the Hyatt Bangkok recently on a business trip. Yes…the free food on Executive Club is excellent. I overheard a couple of Philippine health care workers talking about how their agencies were all geared towards that US Social Security in the work plan because they “could live like a queen” on US-SS in the Phills. The average person gets around $1100 p/m…with 40 yr maxed out contributors able to collect up to $2200 p/m….those these are rare birds. Still…a couple getting $2200 pm between them can live quite nicely in a cheap retirement state like Texas, Louisiana, Florida, Kentucky etc….where everything costs a third of what it does in Canada and the weather is a whole lot better.

While in BKK I got a job offer paying $165K p/a …..global companies are going there rather than high taxed bergs like Canada…and paying big international wages…whereas Canada is famous for being the lowest paid jurisdiction in the developed world…with Vancouver being the lowest paid city in the G8.

Here’s the kicker…Thailand is so hungry to develop…and it knows it needs big brainpower….waives normal income tax for professionals and specialists with 5 years experience in the field and collects only a flat 15%….no EI or CPP deductions…even though they have national health care and a national pension plan…….do ya think I should come back to Vancouver or take the job in Thailand?

#202 Dup on 10.16.15 at 10:26 am

#38 Rascal

Province where the pollsters are?

He already knows that. IP address on your machine ….

#203 gut check on 10.16.15 at 10:46 am

“scared the crap out of women?”

no. not fear.
silly boys. always thinking they can guess what goes on in fully functioning brains.

You mean the humourless ones? — Garth

#204 BG on 10.16.15 at 10:56 am

#199 Nora Lenderby on 10.16.15 at 9:56 am
#162 BG on 10.15.15 at 11:55 pm
One of the most important issues was the Niqab.

Surely the most important thing is that a politician thinks more of his fading career than of the public good.

You seem to have little faith in the ability of Canada to accomodate everyone. So sorry that your vision of nationhood isn’t reality.

You go to the public swimming pool only to realize your usual schedule has been closed in order to accommodate Muslim women who don’t want to attend the pool while men are there.

If this really happens to you, go another time or to another pool.

I myself have been disturbed by the appearance and antics of portly gentlemen in speedos. It certainly frightens the children :-)

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I don’t care about what politicians think, I care about what they do.
If any politician comes up with ideas that make sense just to win the election, but I happen to agree with the ideas, I will vote for them.
Regardless of anything else.

Canada’s ability to accommodate everybody is utopia. I mean communism was cool on paper!
You just cannot accommodate everybody. Not possible.
People need common ground to live in harmony.

And about the last comment that I should be the one looking for another swimming pool so that a minority can enjoy it privately as per the voices their hear in their head (or some obscure book written centuries ago)…
There’s no better example of the harmful submissive behavior and political correctness I was talking about.

#205 Pam on 10.16.15 at 11:17 am

#83 Don (Is that short for Donna?) I resent your piggy comment about women voting for trudeau. I for one will not be voting for him. I am not for a rich little boy born with a silver foot in his mouth who wants to tax the rich to give to the poor. He is no modern day robin hood. He is a trust fund baby who hasn’t got a clue about what it takes to run this country. He is just riding on his daddy’s coat tail. While Harper hasn’t always made the right choices, at least he isn’t some bleeding heart with a lets save all the poor folk who aren’t smart enough to care for themselves attitude. trudeau almost reminds me of the Democratic socialist running the US into the ground.

#206 Herb on 10.16.15 at 11:22 am

#184 wacko …

since you don’t live in Canada, you have been spared watching or reading the Canadian news, the sight of CPC spokesmen endlessly babbling talking points, parliamentary bobbleheads cheering nonsense enthusiastically, committees hamstrung by Conservative majorities, the disaster of Question Period, or Harper coming out with half-truths or downright lies when his lips move.

Come home, get an education in politics Harper-style, and then decide who is “swilling bathwater” in Canada.

#207 Leo Trollstoy on 10.16.15 at 11:28 am

#175 Moses71 on 10.16.15 at 1:24 am

Why so salty?

So easily trolled.

Trollstoy lol

#208 IHCTD9 on 10.16.15 at 11:32 am

#191 maxx on 10.16.15 at 8:11 am
#35 Randy on 10.15.15 at 5:21 pm

“I would love to have U.S. House Prices here.”

No kidding. Their 30-year terms and tax deductible interest has had me licking my chops. Imagine what the average blog dawg could do with that. Land of opportunity indeed.

It’s a helluva slog to save in Canada, but in the U.S., if you keep your lifestyle aspirations under control whilst you’re young, (far greater temptation there) you can make and keep an absolute fortune.
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I try not to think about how much better it can be down there – like Texas. I’d already be retired, living in a mansion sitting on 500 acres while paying no taxes, and sleeping on a mattress full of greenbacks.

#209 IHCTD9 on 10.16.15 at 11:37 am

#201 Gerry Gold on 10.16.15 at 10:13 am
#12 Bob Dog

…….do ya think I should come back to Vancouver or take the job in Thailand?
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You think we stupid?

#210 The Other Chris on 10.16.15 at 11:37 am

Do you become eligible for US social security if you work in the US for a certain number of years under a TN-1 visa, or does it only count if you’re there on an immigrant-class visa like H1-B?

#211 Dup on 10.16.15 at 11:46 am

TO: Harper, J.T., T. Mulcair
Politicians need to do more for London ON.
More jobs are going away from the city…

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/caterpillar-layoffs-ontario-1.3274532

#212 fancy_pants on 10.16.15 at 12:08 pm

Garth, the lack of advertising on your site shows how much you love us. how do you make any $ doing this day in and day out?

I’m guessing amazons run this site while you attend to more important matters like golf, Hummer support groups and Harley festivals. kudos to you

if an amazon responds, send a wink.

#213 Panhead on 10.16.15 at 12:12 pm

One things for sure … it’s gonna be a hell of a show on election night …

#214 Russ on 10.16.15 at 12:16 pm

So, last night our gang gathered at the Old City Pub for dinner. Thursday is half price menu, it looked like a senior’s centre.
The table demo was
2 couples @ he is 70 and she 15 years younger,
1 couple @ he is 65 and she is 7 years younger,
Sweetie & I @ same age, 58.
Table poll yields the wrinklies going Dipper, mid to Cons (they’re from Alberta) and the youngsters going Green. (I’m a contrarian for the most part.)

A few minutes after the discussion a Lib ad shows on the TV, we can’t hear it but I point out the message “9 out of 10 families will get more money with the Liberals”.
So I ask the group, “How much do you think you will get, as one of the 90 percent, when you’re pulling more money out of only 10 percent?”
No comment from anyone.
No surprise.
People generally aren’t good with applied math as part of their lives (4 out of 3 engineers aren’t good with fractions).

#215 fancy_pants on 10.16.15 at 12:16 pm

#195 Bottoms_Up on 10.16.15 at 9:32 am

I would divide it all by 6 then multiply by 1/3 of the amount of female harpo supporters minus the over 60 trudeau fans (please do PEMDAS on this equation).

then take the number of bearded mulcair lovers, divide that by 12 (nothing to do with his past mortgages) and then multiply by lucky 7. if it’s raining multiply by 5 as moods can alter the result.

there. it’s that easy.

#216 fancy_pants on 10.16.15 at 12:26 pm

#211 Dup on 10.16.15 at 11:46 am

wow, who could have seen that coming?

umm. that’s b/c someone voted for Wynnie at the last provincial elections and for McGuilty two times before that.

But take a zen moment, and then take it to your MPP, s/he will be happy to tax you more and hire a committee to investigate why jobs are disappearing.

or just vote for Justin, a sure fix for your issue ;)

#217 For those about to flop... on 10.16.15 at 12:38 pm

#209 IHCTD9 on 10.16.15 at 11:37 am
#201 Gerry Gold on 10.16.15 at 10:13 am
#12 Bob Dog

…….do ya think I should come back to Vancouver or take the job in Thailand?
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You think we stupid?

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Hey Tractor Boy,I was thinking more along the line of…
Stay in Thailand ,there are enough prats in Vancouver already!

#218 OXI in GREECE !! on 10.16.15 at 12:43 pm

Welcome to the Stephen Harper Party Po-Leece state bozos

The male govt workers who voted here do not care – they are getting paid over 100K and are the Govt 1% ers….

Sad

#219 S.Bby on 10.16.15 at 12:59 pm

#94

The fact that Walmart stock is getting punished is a pretty good indication that the US is in trouble.
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Their expenses are up, cutting into profits. Recall those across the board raises they gave their “associates” recently?

#220 gut check on 10.16.15 at 1:02 pm

“#203 gut check on 10.16.15 at 10:46 am
“scared the crap out of women?”

no. not fear.
silly boys. always thinking they can guess what goes on in fully functioning brains.

You mean the humourless ones? — Garth”

Surely you can’t mean me! My comment itself is an example that I do indeed have a healthy sense of humor – but I guess it isn’t funny to you. Wonder why?

Here’s some more yuks:

I’d tell you to stuff a sock in it, but I’ll bet you already have! ba-dum-bump, tssssh!

#221 S.Bby on 10.16.15 at 1:25 pm

#200 Bdy Skytrn
Do you roll out of bed at 10AM every day and hit this blog?
You sure don’t add anything other than being a broken record…

#222 Ralph Cramdown on 10.16.15 at 1:37 pm

#153 Nagraj — “In my last post I kinda rewrote Richard III’s last soliloquy and put it into Harpo’s mouth […]”

Loved it. But in the interests of silly pedantry, I’ll point out that, as the Prime Minister was raised in Leaside, he is a son of East York, not of York.

#223 MF on 10.16.15 at 1:40 pm

#179 DON on 10.16.15 at 3:10 am

Gotcha. It’s difficult to qualify charisma. Charisma is what probably wins votes, and none of the leaders have it.

As a cute aside, I’ve heard there is some scientific evidence saying that good looking people are rated as less trustworthy than “less good looking” people in general. Lol maybe this is what those female voters I know are picking up on? Maybe they are thinking this is the kind of guy that would cheat on you with a younger woman? I have no idea, but they are definitely well read in his JT’s policies.

“Just saying…reality and human nature is involved here. Harper telling women what to wear was a gamble. I would never tell my wife what she can and cannot where, I value being able to sleep with two eyes closed.”

Ugh the niqab controversy makes me uneasy. Back to human nature. With the obvious historical and security issues aside, people can wear whatever they want and we certainly have freedom of religion. On the other hand, there is something difficult about dealing with another human being when their face is completely covered. I’m not against it, yet I’m not for it either. The niqab is a none issue for me.

Agreed with the minority government thing. Nothing really gets done, but no party has too much power to screw everything up either. I’m cool with a Harper minority, which is also my prediction. TFSA still at 10k contribution room and steady as she goes.

MF

#224 S.Bby on 10.16.15 at 1:41 pm

#184 wacko
Bottom line…be careful what you wish for…you just might get it. Voting for higher taxes and bigger government is just pathetic capitulation based on an ideology of zero opportunity.
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I have never understood why Canadians want such a socialist underachieving paradise. Do we want to be taken care of and coddled? We are soft and don’t seem to realize how hard the world really is. We have “peacekeepers” instead of soldiers. I mean really? We are seen as an easy mark and gullible and some other groups will eat us for lunch if we are not careful.

#225 Steuy on 10.16.15 at 1:50 pm

Great poll Garth. Your comments always make me Laugh(Pollster’s Profile):

“their very bad sense of humour, various sexual proclivities, a faint whiff of mould, dog fondling and the fact they read a blog written by a former politician who sucked at it who is obsessed with making money and moderating disturbing comments.”

To bad, Justin’s Party, Lobbying the Greasy Patch didn’t come out sooner. Politicians tend to be a little slippery.

#226 Russ on 10.16.15 at 1:55 pm

#146. Moses71 on 10.15.15 at 10:38 pm
Oops! Missed the vote yesterday.
44yr old female making $90k. Not married. Rent in Calgary & own house in Kelowna with sister with a mortgage.
Usually vote Green to keep them visible but voted Trudeau cuz he’s a ’71 baby like me & I’m sick of seeing Harper’s lying old face
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hey Mose,
Do you know about Garth’s owning real estate rule #**?
To paraphrase: don’t own real estate with anyone that you are not sleeping with.

Just saying, about your sister with her mortgage…

#227 Ralph Cramdown on 10.16.15 at 1:58 pm

In which The Right Honourable The Lord Thomson, 3rd Baron Thomson of Fleet instructs the plebs on what issues the election should have been about, counsels them to elect a Certain Prime Minister, and advises said Prime Minister to abdicate immediately upon his victory.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/editorials/the-tories-deserve-another-mandate-stephen-harper-doesnt/article26842506/

Part of the ongoing series of completely freakin’ bizarre Mop & Pail endorsements asking voters to vote for something which isn’t actually on the ballot.

#228 IHCTD9 on 10.16.15 at 1:58 pm

#194 Nora Lenderby on 10.16.15 at 9:28 am
#154 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 11:11 pm
To me, he’s a jellyfish, Hillary Clinton would eat him alive. Imagine Trudeau and Putin sitting down negotiating foreign policy. He’d probably take monetary policy advice from Robert Mugabe. He needs to sign up for Man school, take up boxing, grow some hair on his back, buy a C63 AMG Black Series.

Hmm…you do know he beat the living daylights out of Mr. Patrick Brazeau, don’t you? (or would have done if the ref hadn’t stopped him):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuSpZ3_5pTc

Not that I think that every politician should be a pugilist, but he isn’t as hopeless as you say.

My concern is about his last name; that is, I don’t much care for the idea of political dynasties, but it seems to be the way the world works.

He does have some decent cabinet material in his party though, so all isn’t lost even if he wins.
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Time will tell, some folks said more or less the same thing to me about Wynne, and she is on a crusade to empty every bank account in the province, except for the Civil Servants. The remains of CAT finally leaving London, and Hydro up again Nov 1.

So far all she’s done is point her finger at Harper to explain all her troubles. That, and while we’re 300 Billion in debt; she decides to spend her time worrying about more “progressive” pursuits like Carbon tax schemes, sex ed curriculum, ORPP, and getting overpriced six packs into grocery stores for sale only when the beer store isn’t closed. Oh, and the sale of Hydro One – which defies categorization.

I was right about Wynne, she won’t do a damn thing she promised to do that was any good. She is however doing many things that indicate she wants to sink this Province outside the public sector.

I will probably be right about JT. The only salvation I see is the fact that Liberals tend to lie like a rug to get into power (remember I live in Ontario), and if this holds true, and Justin DOESN’T do what he promised – that would actually be a good thing.

Yes he is that bad.

#229 Ponzius Pilatus on 10.16.15 at 2:02 pm

#224
We have “peacekeepers” instead of soldiers. I mean really? We are seen as an easy mark and gullible and some other groups will eat us for lunch if we are not careful.
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The meek shall inherit the earth.

#230 Edward on 10.16.15 at 2:18 pm

“NDP Leader Tom Mulcair, who spent the morning campaigning in Lac-Mégantic — the rural town about 95 km east of Sherbrooke that was devastated by an oil train explosion in July 2013 — echoed Harper’s criticism that Gagnier’s resignation recalled the sponsorship scandal, saying it was another example of the Liberal legacy of abusing power.”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-trudeau-gagnier-pipeline-1.3274165

#231 IHCTD9 on 10.16.15 at 2:20 pm

#217 For those about to flop… on 10.16.15 at 12:38 pm
#209 IHCTD9 on 10.16.15 at 11:37 am
#201 Gerry Gold on 10.16.15 at 10:13 am
#12 Bob Dog

…….do ya think I should come back to Vancouver or take the job in Thailand?
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You think we stupid?

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Hey Tractor Boy,I was thinking more along the line of…
Stay in Thailand ,there are enough prats in Vancouver already!
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Yes, the less prats that need kicking the better :)

#232 discuss secession on 10.16.15 at 2:46 pm

discuss secession….

hmm, coming from Quebec I have no problem with that!

#233 Nemesis on 10.16.15 at 2:49 pm

#CueTheObituarys,Or… #TheConservativeCorpseIsStillTwitching…

[NewRepublic] – Canada’s Conservative Party Is a Cautionary Tale for the Republican Party: Here’s how to win over immigrants and minorities—and then lose them

…”In ads running in ethnic community newspapers aimed at Chinese and Punjabi voters, the CPC has argued that Liberal leader Justin Trudeau “supports the sale of marijuana to children, the expansion of safe injection sites and the establishment of neighbourhood brothels.” Punjabi community leaders have complained that these deceptive ads are aimed at them, saying the ads show that the CPC clearly holds them in low regard and doesn’t think they’re capable of running their own bordellos.”…

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/123140/canadas-conservative-party-cautionary-tale-republican-party

[NoteToGT: Minor liberties with the copy. The Devil made me do it.]

#234 conan on 10.16.15 at 2:53 pm

Looks like Harper is not listening to the Lizard of Oz anymore because if he was the message would continue to be :

Niqab….Fear…….Niqab………..Fear………..Niqab………
security……….Niqab!!!!!!

Latest word is this guy quit soon after Harper decided to include the Fords in a campaign stop.

http://thinkpol.ca/2015/10/15/lynton-crosby-abandons-harper/

#235 Harper TPPeed on my homework on 10.16.15 at 3:12 pm

If you vote you are giving your consent to the system. The system has vetted tbe puppets in adavance so that you have no choice.

#236 Holy Crap Wheres The Tylenol on 10.16.15 at 3:24 pm

#194 Nora Lenderby on 10.16.15 at 9:28 am
#154 IHCTD9 on 10.15.15 at 11:11 pm
To me, he’s a jellyfish, Hillary Clinton would eat him alive. Imagine Trudeau and Putin sitting down negotiating foreign policy. He’d probably take monetary policy advice from Robert Mugabe. He needs to sign up for Man school, take up boxing, grow some hair on his back, buy a C63 AMG Black Series.
Hmm…you do know he beat the living daylights out of Mr. Patrick Brazeau, don’t you? (or would have done if the ref hadn’t stopped him):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuSpZ3_5pTc
Not that I think that every politician should be a pugilist, but he isn’t as hopeless as you say.
My concern is about his last name; that is, I don’t much care for the idea of political dynasties, but it seems to be the way the world works.
He does have some decent cabinet material in his party though, so all isn’t lost even if he wins.
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Oh I would love to see Justin F#$king Trudeau do as he said and stand up to Vladimir Putin. That is like throwing a gutted pig into a shark tank. Putin craps out guys like Trudeau every day! Putin doesn’t even know Trudeau exists and if he doesn’t like him, poof………..bye, bye Justin. Ya right Justin Trudeau math and drama teacher! Vladimir Putin Lawyer, ex KGB intelligence-gathering agent, left as lieutenant colonel in KGB. Now leads Russia. Sure I would throw $100 on that fight!

#237 Bottoms_Up on 10.16.15 at 3:25 pm

#205 Pam on 10.16.15 at 11:17 am
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At least with Trudeau you get some semblance of democracy. MPs and public servants with voices.

How do you possibly know that? This is the leader that punted two MPs accused of sexual flings with female NDP members without any hearing or recourse. Worse that Harper? We shall see. — Garth

#238 IKnow on 10.16.15 at 3:33 pm

#221 S.Bby on 10.16.15 at 1:25 pm
other than being a broken record…

” HAM effects are not significant”
” not going to end well”
— those are broken records, or plainly just wrong (in foreseeable future)

#239 NDP = CONSERVATIVE wolf on 10.16.15 at 3:44 pm

The NDP is a CON wolf in NDP clothing. FACT the NDP voted down a pro NDP bill when Paul Martin was PM and forced an election and in the end Harper has a minority government. Then that lead to a Harper Majority. CONservatives and NDP is the same wolf. I am 100% NDP and I can see through the CON wolf propaganda. I am voting Liberals

#240 NDP = CONSERVATIVE wolf on 10.16.15 at 3:51 pm

NDP doing everything to help the CONs win. NDPers send a message to mulcair and the NDP party that sellouts will be punished and vote Liberal. The corporate media has given NDP a lot of air time that normally NEVER happens. Use your Brian people and think why?

#241 Мilla on 10.16.15 at 3:52 pm

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#242 A Canadian Abroad on 10.16.15 at 4:04 pm

#82 JSS on 10.15.15 at 7:48 pm
What’s up with Walmart stock? It’s down like more than 12% this week.

It’s simply future earnings guidance was off. Mr Market was expecting 3-7% growth, Mr. Wal-Mart CEO said flat to 1% growth. I’d wait 2-3 quarters before buying it if guidance is good.

#243 OXI in GREECE !! on 10.16.15 at 4:41 pm

#237 Bottoms_Up on 10.16.15 at 3:25 pm
#205 Pam on 10.16.15 at 11:17 am
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At least with Trudeau you get some semblance of democracy. MPs and public servants with voices.

How do you possibly know that? This is the leader that punted two MPs accused of sexual flings with female NDP members without any hearing or recourse. Worse that Harper? We shall see. — Garth
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ALL parties both Federally and Provincially are dictatorially run by the Party Leader.

The only thing people are voting for in their mind this election or any election is the “lesser of many evils”.

Until people demand democracy and representation nothing will happen.

#244 jess on 10.16.15 at 4:48 pm

What about these cons ?

NAFTA Chapter 11 Investor-State Disputes to January 1, 2015
Author(s): Scott Sinclair
January 14, 2015
– See more at: https://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/reports/nafta-chapter-11-investor-state-disputes-january-1-2015#sthash.ikkMPcbH.dpuf

Canada has been the target of over 70% of all NAFTA claims since 2005. Currently, Canada faces nine active claims challenging a wide range of government measures that allegedly interfere with the expected profitability of foreign investments. Foreign investors are seeking over $6 billion in damages from the Canadian government. These include challenges to a ban on fracking by the Quebec provincial government and a decision by a Canadian federal court to invalidate a pharmaceutical patent on the basis that it was not sufficiently innovative or useful. –

#245 maxx on 10.16.15 at 5:02 pm

#47 BC Guy on 10.15.15 at 6:01 pm

“Generation Squeeze: time to get out and vote for change.

“Young adults earn thousands of dollars less for full-time work than previous generations once you adjust for inflation, even though they’re more educated. They also face larger student debt and greater housing prices than their parents or grandparents did.”

http://globalnews.ca/news/2278372/young-canadians-get-pocket-change-from-federal-parties-compared-to-seniors-report/

Silly article. Inflammatory too. Just what I’d expect from MSM pabulum.

Yes, pensions cost money. But seniors have paid into them. The young, on the other hand, have not.
Got debt? STOP SPENDING! Designer crap, shooters, lattes, manis and pedis, spa treatments, unlimited talk and text……whatever happened to brick and board bookcases, regular coffee, eating out once in a blue moon and paying CASH? We used to live on pocket change and when it ran out, we STOPPED SPENDING! Today it’s sushi, fusion and that will be Visa, thank you.

Cry me a river.

#246 Mf on 10.16.15 at 5:31 pm

#245maxx

A lot of what you say is true, and I am no fan of my generation, except that there is no livable wage job available in an industry like manufacturing to fall back on anymore.

Want to be a lawyer/Doctor? Lots of school involved and it does cost more than it did before.

Also Careful what you saying about eating in restaurants. Tons of our brightest a relegated to serving tables and depend on people who grew up with better opportunity and our own generation to survive. I see it with lots of my friends.

Mf

#247 Mrs. Savesalot on 10.16.15 at 5:57 pm

#23 Dave said:
“I find it interesting that this “group” of income earners supports the Liberals the most at nearly 39%, while, the group making less than $50,000/year supports the Liberals even less…”

It is possible some of the respondents who reported income under $50,000 for this poll are part of single income families as stay-home parents. And which party has benefits most well-fitted to single income, high earning families? The Cons.

#248 maxx on 10.16.15 at 7:21 pm

#246 Mf on 10.16.15 at 5:31 pm

Point taken. I know it’s not easy nowadays. Not at all, for many. I just can’t reconcile the entitled lifestyles and debt loads that abound.

#249 Jay on 10.17.15 at 10:37 am

Your demographics are off. Millennials are up to about 35 years old now.

I’m 32, and am firmly in the millennial department, not gen X.

The average Millennial age is 26. — Garth