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GreaterFool poll: over 7,000 votes & a decisive result

There will be a majority Conservative government on the morning of Tuesday, October 20th, led by a man most Canadians hate. So much for being a normal country.

Here are the final party standings of the GreaterFool poll of over 7,000 readers: Cons 45.5%, Libs 25.0%, NDP 19.3%, Greens 10.2%.

And here’s the actual tabulation, showing the votes cast (click to enlarge):

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A normal political poll is one of 1,000 people. A hefty one, such as the two released yesterday, talks to 2,000 voters. The GreaterFool poll was completed by almost  7,200 readers, nation-wide. The latest voter survey released this week concluded on Tuesday and took a week. Our poll went offline at 3 pm today (Thursday) and was live for the previous 27 hours.

So, it’s juicy fresh. But is it accurate?

Time will tell, but the polling program used here recorded IP addresses and blocked attempts at multiple votes. So it appears more than seven thousand people actually did vote in the day-long period. Were there trolls, party activists and political militants taking part? Without a doubt. But they vote in elections, too.

And how about the audience? Doesn’t this pathetic blog which focuses on hormones, bungalows and ETFs appeal mainly to the radical, wealthy, Republicanesque, capitalist, right-wing, investing, TFSA-loving overlord class? Maybe. But at the same time the comments section for the last month has been brimming with the bile of those lefty Harper-haters who crave change, plus social justice and argued passionately for higher taxes on the rich and evil corps.

So, here’s a surprise. Overwhelmingly those completing the poll want the TFSA limit of $10,000 maintained (86%), do not support higher corporate taxes (66%), oppose moving the minimum wage to $15 (63.8%) and don’t think higher income-earners should be taxed further (63.5%)

All of the actual results are below. Plus two highly interesting ones: almost a third of those polled say they plan on switching their political allegiance in this election. And more than half (56%) profess they hate the man many of them are ready to re-elect. This is in direct parallel with the trends seen in the latest national polls (Ekos and Leger) which show the Cons gaining ground, despite disliking the boss.

Conclusion? Trudeau and Mulcair blew it. A giant appetite for change in the man leading Canada is being suppressed in favour of status-quo economic policies. A big whack of people are willing to hold their nose and vote for a guy they’re dead tired of, since the Libs and Dippers totally missed the mark on what the middle class really wants. We’re not so dumb, after all, says the poll. TFSAs are a hope for future wealth. Taxing the rich more kills incentive to succeed. Kicking corps risks more job loss. Ditto with the pizza joint having to pony up a higher minimum wage. And, mostly, with the world volatile and the economy a swamp, is this the time for more taxes, more spending and more government?

Guess not.

But the biggest lesson here? Never, ever think the nutjobs in the comments section speak for the many. They’re cute. But they don’t hunt.


(Click chart to enlarge)

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To address any concerns, here is a link to the final auto-tabulated results, so you can witness the authenticity of these results for yourself.

410 comments ↓

#1 Mighty Mouse on 09.24.15 at 3:57 pm

“On Wednesday, NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair did what Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau did on Tuesday to say there was no-way, no-how a re-elected Conservative minority was going to get a chance to govern.
“There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell,” Mulcair told reporters in Montreal when he was asked if his party would prop up a Harper minority. “There’s no likelihood that the NDP would ever under any circumstance be able to support Mr. Harper, his divisive politics [and] his backward economics.”

#2 Joe Schmoe on 09.24.15 at 3:59 pm

Thanks for doing this Garth…interesting to say the least.

#3 MF on 09.24.15 at 4:00 pm

Thank you for this Garth.

MF

#4 RunningWithScissors on 09.24.15 at 4:01 pm

Reminds me of the saying ‘We won’t get the government we want. We’ll get the government we deserve’.

Sigh.

#5 DJ on 09.24.15 at 4:01 pm

Does that mean I can quit my job as a mortgage broker?

#6 Polozified on 09.24.15 at 4:02 pm

I tried to vote, but someone in my office must have voted already.

The 1% marches on!

#7 Mighty Mouse on 09.24.15 at 4:03 pm

This poll is skewed. The type of people that frequent this blog are not representative of the general population…

#8 gladiator on 09.24.15 at 4:04 pm

I work at a big bank and when tried to vote it said that I already voted – probably due to one IP that the internet sees for all users here. Didn’t try to multi-vote.

#9 Reddy on 09.24.15 at 4:04 pm

Its 4:02 And already 5+ comments. You ppl are fast types. Congrats Steven on the victory!

#10 Boombust on 09.24.15 at 4:04 pm

#7 Mighty Mouse.

I agree, Mighty Mouse. Skewed it is.

#11 Steve on 09.24.15 at 4:05 pm

Sadly, should this and other polls prove to be correct after election day, Mr Harper will believe it is because of him, rather than despite him…

All we are left with now is to appeal to the voters in his riding to save us all…

#12 Reddy on 09.24.15 at 4:07 pm

Best line – ‘nuts jobs in the comments section’ ha!

#13 thebarold on 09.24.15 at 4:09 pm

what mighty mouse said… oh and if we had proportional representation…

#14 DreamingInTechnicolour on 09.24.15 at 4:15 pm

Polls are for strippers.

#15 Obvious Truth on 09.24.15 at 4:16 pm

This was great Garth!! That’s a big sample. Has to be taken seriously.

I thinks markets got wind of it and turned the Cpeso around today! Lol

Still think the kid takes it!!

After all we are the 1% and those that aspire.

#16 The Not So Millennial Intern on 09.24.15 at 4:18 pm

Incomes of individuals who read this blog are probably higher than median Canadian income, also age is most likely more skewed towards seniors. Meaning there is no significant representation of the younger millennial cohort that will be voting Liberal/NDP.

#17 Bottoms_Up on 09.24.15 at 4:19 pm

Thanks again Garth, your blog and this polling initiative is a true public service.

I would like to point out that in the past, many (likely) voters on this site have pointed to their own personal wealth. So while the poll is large, it is indeed a poll of blogdogs, which may be skewed to conservative voters anyway (not a true poll representing all Canadians…only those Canadians more likely to reach out to conduct their own financial and housing research on the internet).

That is the caveat.

#18 Nick on 09.24.15 at 4:19 pm

Indeed. 10% vote for Green? I can’t believe so many would throw their vote away. Regardless, I have faith enough fellow Canadians are in tune with social media and will vote strategically….Harper is outa here!

More bad economic news is coming down the pipeline in the next few weeks, perhaps Canada will get the Alberta treatment. ;)

#19 Lana Faessler on 09.24.15 at 4:19 pm

Thanks a lot…now I’m depressed. I get that “it’s the economy, stupid”. Especially on this blog. How many people on this blog make less than $15.00 an hour? Not many, I bet. I know I don’t…I make double that, and still struggle, because I also know to invest what I can afford. I have a TFSA so would want that increased, and not sure why it would hurt anybody to allow that.

But there are other issues that concern me besides the economy–such as being involved in wars, C51, the eroding of our rights, the divisiveness of the Con party.

I remember waking up after the last election and hearing Harper got a majority, and I pulled the blankets over my head and wanted to suck my thumb.

My only hope is that this is skewed because of the mindset of the majority of people on this blog. I am going to get a drink now. Cheers!

#20 Mighty Mouse on 09.24.15 at 4:19 pm

Thank you Garth for this poll.

Should anyone happen to have the ear of Mulcair or Trudeau make sure to let them know that even though people do not use their tax free savings account to their fullest they like the idea of being able to use them shold the oppertunity arise… It would be in their best interests to support the tax free savings account to its maximum potential.

#21 Russ on 09.24.15 at 4:20 pm

CND climbed relative to USD on release of the poll results.

Check it out.

#22 DisgustMadeMePost on 09.24.15 at 4:21 pm

Gawd, I hope this poll is flawed …

#23 T.O. Bubble Boy on 09.24.15 at 4:22 pm

WOW.

I would have guessed that this blog was 80% Liberal, but I guess the idea of raising taxes / cutting TFSA / etc. is not going to be popular on a personal finance blog.

From a purely financial standpoint, clearly the Conservative promises (higher TFSA, income splitting, etc.) are attractive to the average person.

However, are many of us missing the point that the Government IS NOT actually in surplus and we can’t afford these programs?

#24 Democracy on 09.24.15 at 4:24 pm

#7 Mightky Mouse
“This poll is skewed. The type of people that frequent this blog are not representative of the general population…”
……………….
Well if you read the comments section, the vast majority are Muclair, Trudeau, Green supporters. They could care less about higher taxes and lower TFSA limits. They seem to be most concerned anout billc51 and Duffy.

#25 Lynne Fay on 09.24.15 at 4:24 pm

Thank you for sharing this, Garth

#26 Canadian on 09.24.15 at 4:25 pm

Not surprised the NDP campaigners here only make up a smaller portion of the readership. And they accuse everyone else of being shills while flooding all of your comment sections with false consensus.

#27 Bottoms_Up on 09.24.15 at 4:25 pm

ps. everyone watch the debate tonight (8pm eastern) and report back tomorrow.

#28 Bottoms_Up on 09.24.15 at 4:26 pm

#23 Democracy on 09.24.15 at 4:24 pm
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No, that shows you that recently those inclined to comment lean left.

#29 Nick on 09.24.15 at 4:27 pm

Of course the results are skewed. No way in reality would Greens get nearly 11% of the vote. Perhaps Harperbots spoiled the ballots?

#30 Terry on 09.24.15 at 4:28 pm

I agree with Mighty Mouse, you have a sampling error. Your population is your readers which you can probably use to compare to the actual breakdown in the federal vote.

Your readers look like they world give Harper a landslide majority … Also looks like they just might be as unhappy as the defeated parties.

#31 Randy on 09.24.15 at 4:28 pm

Gee…It would make you think that most polls are a corrupt farce designed to sell to political operatives so they can fool people. The Union Movement in Canada can’t be happy with this poll.

#32 BC guy on 09.24.15 at 4:29 pm

Thanks for doing this Garth.

#33 Linda on 09.24.15 at 4:29 pm

Thanks for the effort, Garth. Interesting!

I do think the results here will naturally be very skewed by self-selection of your blog readers, who are mostly a fraction of the traditional conservative base.

Similarly, the EKOS poll released today was turned into a headline in the Toronto Star, but the Cons. are still (in that poll) only at about 35% and EKOS notoriously uses bots in its polling that may mean inaccurate results.

http://www.thestar.com/news/federal-election/2015/09/24/conservatives-swing-into-lead-close-in-on-majority-government-new-poll-suggests.html

A few more like that (and yours too) would be necessary to see there is any kind of trend. I don’t see it from here.

#34 Bottoms_Up on 09.24.15 at 4:30 pm

#22 T.O. Bubble Boy on 09.24.15 at 4:22 pm
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That’s exactly correct, those who are more inclined to search out a financial blog are more likely to support lower taxes and increased TFSA limits.

Don’t the majority of people in Canada vote in their best financial interests? — Garth

#35 dosouth on 09.24.15 at 4:31 pm

Just shows readers here lean just a bit to the left….maybe even a bit more so.

In the end you get what you vote for so get out and vote!

#36 say it ain't so on 09.24.15 at 4:32 pm

personally, i’m hoping for a minority … couldn’t care which idiot wins.

#37 Kurt on 09.24.15 at 4:32 pm

55% say they hate Harper and 45% say that they’ll vote conservative. That suggests that the CPC’s greatest liability is their dictator, uh, leader. They should do something about that. Like a leadership review on Oct. 20.

As for the pole, er, poll, it reflects the blog dogs, who we know are an elite minority of Canadians.

#38 Nick on 09.24.15 at 4:33 pm

I disagree, this blog seems most frequented by RE obsessed upper middle-class – mildly affluent yuppies… nonetheless horribly in debt patrons. They’re scared, their main asset an anchor threatening to pull them into the abyss.

Free your mind, Canada wasn’t always the house horny dog eat dog debt drenched society.

#39 Love my Kia on 09.24.15 at 4:34 pm

Run this poll on a social justice blog and you will get reversed results.

#40 Lady in Red on 09.24.15 at 4:34 pm

Great idea Garth. But as others mentioned this blog’s readers definitely don’t represent the general population. 90% of the young ladies I’m surrounded by would rather read hollywood gossip. And 90% of the young men I’m surrounded by are too busy trying to figure out how they are going to own homes in Vancouver, or any of the suburbs for that matter. Real estate still beats politics at the Water cooler on the west coast.

#41 evanescence on 09.24.15 at 4:36 pm

Just lately Volkswagen blatantly breaking the law in multiple jurisdictions (profits at the expense of our health), and pharmaceuticals raising prices by 5000% to $750 a pill… Amazon , Google, Starbucks, paying no taxes in UK, to name a few examples, and you are still cheerleaders for corps.

No wonder the right doesn’t dare to comment that much, there is no arguing for clearly unfair and unethical policies.

The solution to violence in Syria is not more violence (bombs), it is less violence.

#42 Julie K. on 09.24.15 at 4:37 pm

Wow, Garth. Impressive survey response @ 7K. Testament to your, uh, power.

Surprising results but not totally unexpected. Probably the wisest choice to keep status quo — for now.

As an aside, hope mainstream media picks up the “story” of your poll and its results. Definitely news worthy IMO.

#43 Yowsa on 09.24.15 at 4:38 pm

Ah, the bitterness of those opposed to Harper! Might be wise to consider, as they say in Morocco: “Better a handful of bees than a basketful of flies.”

#44 Kurt on 09.24.15 at 4:39 pm

Garth on #33 Bottoms_up

“Don’t the majority of people in Canada vote in their best financial interests? — Garth”

Yes, and it’s a damn shame. We live in democracy (for now), where we as individuals could, if we wanted to, support a vision of a better Canada, but we don’t. Hell, most people wouldn’t recognize a vision if it slapped them in the face, never mind put in the hard work and negotiation with their fellow Canadians required to develop one.

#45 Enthalpy on 09.24.15 at 4:41 pm

Im just going to put Garths name on my ballot.

#46 Recta-fire on 09.24.15 at 4:44 pm

The latest polls…even EKOS…used by the CBC, CTV and most other Harper Haters in the TO media….show the Conservatives have surged ahead by a wide margin. Conservatives are 10 points ahead of nearest rival….Mulcair is sinking like a stone. The margin of error is 2%…so a ten point lead is showing what Garths equally as scientific and very broad poll has shown. Libs and NDP may as well stay home and drown their sorrows at this point…it’s a Conservative slam dunk from coast to coast to coast.

Calls for Wyneeeeeee to be fired are growing due to an RCMP led investigation of fraud in the last provincial election. That isn’t going to help her commitment to stop gap Justin as his Champion. I think people got scared by the police campaign in the last election to hold a mass strike if the Liberals didn’t get in when the opposition was asking for a mandate to reign in the civil service. …and that’s what put Wynne over in the end….dirty politics by the unions for sure. Never mind the billion dollar as campaign by the other unions. Sure we wondered why the teachers all got such big raises immediately after the election….just a coincidence…maybe….and pigs fly in my dreams.

Trudeau should have run like hell from buddies like Wynee and Chretien speaking out.

here’s the question everyones asking “Will Mansbridge break down in tears this time…again…when PM Harper is reelected?

#47 Llewelyn on 09.24.15 at 4:48 pm

Come on Garth a site dedicated to helping people with money to accumulate more money and surprise, surprise the majority vote to support a party that based their entire platform on ways to enhance wealth for the existing electorate.

I came to this blog out of curiosity and became intrigued by the right wing perspectives voiced day after day. I voiced my concerns over the emphasis on self and the lack of compassion for the less fortunate knowing full well that the majority of loyal followers of this blog viewed such concerns as a character flaw.

During the 1990’s I worked with a First Nation that elected a very progressive Chief who established a nation owned oil and gas company and substantially increased the share of revenues deposited into their capital Trust account. This progressive Chief tried to establish an independent Trust to assure that the revenues received from the development of non-renewable resources could be converted into a source of renewable revenue for future generations. Kind of a mini Norway or Alberta Heritage fund.

The Government of Canada refused to relinquish control over royalty revenues and the end result was that the trust funds were depleted.

What I found so sad was the Government of Canada promotion of legislation allowing 50% of all royalty revenue to be distributed as per capita distributions. When the next election for Chief was held candidate who promised to support per capita distributions, as opposed to creating a true Trust fund, won quite easily.

Playing to human greed has been used by politicians for years and has led to the downfall of many empires through the ages.

If the Conservatives win a majority as Garth’s poll is suggesting there is little doubt in my mind that the disparity of incomes within Canada will continue to increase and that at some point in the not too distant future social unrest will threaten our current quality of life.

I hope I am wrong but a review of human behaviour throughout history would indicate that disparity in the quality of life experienced within a society seldom ends well.

It’s democracy. Deal with it. — Garth

#48 Glen on 09.24.15 at 4:48 pm

Garth, As someone who spends time breaking down studies and so forth for a living…you know full well this poll is fraught with all sorts of biases which render it…useless.

For one, anyone who reads here is likely to be acutely interested in money, real estate and personal wealth.

And not so much about equity, balance, the environment and so forth.

I would be willing to bet a poll of the average net worth of the readership here would be astoundingly higher than the average Canadian.

In other words…the readership here may well hate Harper…but the love money more.

Thus…the Tory love.

Let’s talk on October 20th. — Garth

#49 lookup the meaning of survey stratum on 09.24.15 at 4:50 pm

From a previous blog post, Garth, you already profiled the type of readers are on this blog. (recall the average age and avg income of the readers?) Therefore, the readers of this blog is just one stratum of the population. I wouldn’t read too much into this, other than the trend, and you hit it right:

Trudeau the moron dropped the ball. I would say most people were ready to vote for a different party, but too many people like myself can’t vote for his party due to his policies. I mean, he called incorporated doctors and other small business owners tax cheats for hiding their income. Seriously. And he wants to legalize pot… And fund deficits. I miss Paul Martin…

#50 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.24.15 at 4:50 pm

#357 MoneyManDan on 09.24.15 at 2:08 pm
Electile Dysfunction – The inability to be aroused by any of the candidates.
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Wrong.
Vote Rhino and get an orgasm!

#51 Glen on 09.24.15 at 4:50 pm

Oh and by the way…loving money above all else? Ya…that’s not a good thing.

#52 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 4:52 pm

I’m a millennial. This makes me sad.

Save us from ourselves!

#53 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.24.15 at 4:52 pm

Congratulation, Mr. Turner.
For turning out a well orchestrated “Jump the Shark” episode.
Very impressive.

#54 Estrella on 09.24.15 at 4:52 pm

I think these results are truly realistic of the broad Canadian population. Firstly, with our Canadian debt load most people are backed into the corner. It is better to keep breathing and shuffling around (=conservatives) than to be slammed against the wall (=lib, ndp).

We have been given the blessing of seeing the NDP in motion as Alberta continues to derail. This is proof that this would be the wrong direction to go for Canada.

We also witness what liberals can disseminate by our wonder Ontario Pension Plan idea with no information as to how it will be backed and run. Like a unicorn, with its horn on its butt. sort of.

We are willing to vote for a man we hate because we have such poor other choices.

And they thought it was a shoe in……

#55 A wise man once said on 09.24.15 at 4:55 pm

This whole thing has been a giant exercise in confirmation bias, because you, Garth, are uncomfortable with the prevailing Canadian values of the year 2015. I’m not going to say any more about this, you can use google and find out more, although I’m sure you know why you can poll even 100,000 people and still have a non-representative result.

I suggest you wait for the election before you declare victory over those who disagree with you. Just remember to have some grace in either “victory” or “defeat”.

And regardless of who “wins”, or who has the minority or majority opinion, I find it in exceedingly poor taste that you would speak so poorly of your readers.

I’d rather not be insulted because I don’t agree with you that 5k of additional TFSA room will do more for the next generation than anything else.

> Never, ever think the nutjobs in the comments section speak for the many.

Do you realise you turned into a bitter old man and you don’t even know it? A bitter old man clutching handfuls of cash and seeking praise for what a wonderful life you must have led, to have your fists so full of money. Too bad the crippling fear of losing it is preventing you from enjoying it.

You really could use an actual Harley or something instead of just joking about it. But you seem to spend your last decades in a sterile, sealed office building helping rich people get even richer instead of hopping on a bike, putting your wife in the back seat, and seeing this beautiful country before Harper’s policies turn Toronto air into Beijing air. But whatever, it’s your life.

P.S. If you went to one of Joe Owe’s men-of-influence parties, I’m sure you would get an even more satisfactory set of poll results, if that’s what you’re looking for.

Losing sucks, doesn’t it? — Garth

#56 Blobby on 09.24.15 at 4:56 pm

I get paid in USD, so i’m totally okay with another 4 years of Harper nuking the economy.

Cant wait for the loony to hit 50c!

#57 canuck on 09.24.15 at 4:56 pm

7 Mighty Mouse on 09.24.15 at 4:03 pm

This poll is skewed. The type of people that frequent this blog are not representative of the general population…

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So then, you don’t represent the general population? Does a regular poll initiated by a polling company actually represent the general population?

#58 25 Days to an NDP Government! on 09.24.15 at 4:56 pm

Good try Garth, but a narrow-cast poll to a bunch of self-avowed 1%ers (most of your followers) is not surprising in what it reveals.

What is sad is how much Conservative anti-democratic action and corruption people seem willing to accept, even the supposedly enlightened 1%.

KPMG – sponsor of a recent finance minister speech – this tells us everything about the character of this government.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cabinet-ministers-met-publicly-with-kpmg-while-firm-s-tax-sham-under-cra-probe-1.3234876

NDP will set us free :)

#59 canuck on 09.24.15 at 4:58 pm

#39 Lady in Red on 09.24.15 at 4:34 pm

Great idea Garth. But as others mentioned this blog’s readers definitely don’t represent the general population. 90% of the young ladies I’m surrounded by would rather read hollywood gossip. And 90% of the young men I’m surrounded by are too busy trying to figure out how they are going to own homes in Vancouver, or any of the suburbs for that matter. Real estate still beats politics at the Water cooler on the west coast.
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Women who read hollywood gossip tend not to vote period unless the poll is on ET or TMZ…

#60 Johnski on 09.24.15 at 4:58 pm

I wonder if Trudeau or Mulcair read this blog? Might give them a heads up.

#61 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.24.15 at 5:02 pm

If it were not for the “nut job” voters, Harper may actually get reelected.

#62 Big Dipper on 09.24.15 at 5:02 pm

What a surprise! A conservative pollster with mostly conservative followers results in a conservative vote majority.

But wait! Notice that 55% of even this highly skewed population voted AGAINST the Cons! OMG, if true the majority of Canadians will once more suffer the insufferable ones. To the barricades I say!

I’m a Con pollster? You are a funny guy. — Garth

#63 Mark on 09.24.15 at 5:04 pm

…is it to late to vote Vanecdotal or Sheane Wallace off??

#64 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 5:06 pm

Don’t want Harper to win? Then consider voting strategically:

http://www.strategicvoting.ca/

#65 Wrong conclusion on 09.24.15 at 5:08 pm

Your conclusion is completely false, a reliable poll would rely on a random sample. Your sample is completely non-random.

Denial is an awesome thing. — Garth

#66 MF on 09.24.15 at 5:08 pm

#7 Mighty Mouse on 09.24.15 at 4:03 pm
This poll is skewed. The type of people that frequent this blog are not representative of the general population…

-You sure about that? We get an awwwwwful lot of people upset about the housing market here on this site.

It’s because the other two parties are terrible, leaders, policies and all.

MF

#67 A wise man once said on 09.24.15 at 5:10 pm

Losing sucks, doesn’t it? — Garth

I am of the opinion that all Canadians are ultimately on the same team. Long term, we win or lose together.

We can disagree and still be gentlemen, no? Don’t be a sore “winner”.

And I meant what I said about money being just an enabler to enjoying life, instead of the purpose of life. You gotta feel the wind in your hair, smell the flowers, eat something delicious, and hug your loved ones for no special reason. I listen to your money advice because it’s a means to an end, but sometimes when you get politically preachy (like today) you make it sound like it’s an end onto itself, and nothing matters but the TFSA balance. Government policies affect a lot of things, like you said. Go to a place like Shanghai or Beijing, breathe the air for 5 minutes and see the difference.

Sorry if I’m not going to jump in and say “yea Garth you’re right about literally everything, stupid lefties lolol”. I’m sure there will be plenty of comments today that will say that. All you’ll get from me is my honest opinion, even if it makes you mad. Sorry.

In your previous post you said, unprovoked: ” You are a bitter old man clutching handfuls of cash and seeking praise for what a wonderful life you must have led, to have your fists so full of money. Too bad the crippling fear of losing it is preventing you from enjoying it.” The very fact I allowed to you make such a lameass statement on this blog should tell you something about tolerance and grace that you have yet to learn. Apologize or this was your last visit here. — Garth

#68 MF on 09.24.15 at 5:11 pm

#51 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 4:52 pm

Please. I’m a millennial too and I want a Harper majority.

Save us from our dumb generation instead.

MF

#69 Dummey Economics on 09.24.15 at 5:12 pm

Who to vote for . Dumb, dumber or dumbest and these names above can be switched on a daily between each other party . There is no choice listening to these Goofs giving money away to buy our votes.
Bring Donald Trump to Canada . At least this will make a election year entertaining .

#70 TEMPLE on 09.24.15 at 5:14 pm

Doesn’t this pathetic blog which focuses on hormones, bungalows and ETFs appeal mainly to the radical, wealthy, Republicanesque, capitalist, right-wing, investing, TFSA-loving overlord class? Maybe.

Not just maybe. Your own poll last year proved it:

http://www.greaterfool.ca/2014/06/23/the-big-reveal/

#71 NoName on 09.24.15 at 5:15 pm

I voted Yes for 15cad min wage….
note to my self #RealityHitsYouHardBro

#72 Canadian on 09.24.15 at 5:17 pm

Wanna reach over the internets and give Garth a big hug. These caring leftists sure are proving their love of humanity today aren’t they?

#73 Bondgirl on 09.24.15 at 5:18 pm

I guess a few other questions added to yesterday’s survey ie what is your annual income, how much debt outstanding, do you own your home, etc, could’ve helped determine whether the survey was answered mostly by the wealthy or not.

#74 Bobs ur uncle on 09.24.15 at 5:19 pm

Garth Turner: non-conservative pollster.

#75 lillooet,Bc on 09.24.15 at 5:21 pm

Was wondering if any MSM will report or mention this poll.

#76 JT on 09.24.15 at 5:22 pm

#63 Sarah
“Don’t want Harper to win? Then consider voting strategically:”
……………………………..
*paid for by the Liberal party of Canada*

#77 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 5:22 pm

#67 MF on 09.24.15 at 5:11 pm

“Save us from our dumb generation”

Speak for yourself, MF.

I have my finances and personal life in order. Whether or not Harper gets elected has no bearing on my earnings or savings rate.

My distaste for Harper stems from the overall sociopolitical, scientific, and environmental damage he has caused during his time in office. Time for a change, before Canada completely tarnishes its international image.

#78 Canadian on 09.24.15 at 5:22 pm

(Probably don’t need to post this, just FYI)

I see that you’ve been linked on reddit which probably explains a lot of the very bitter, vicious comments you are receiving.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonalFinanceCanada/comments/3m8uew/election_results_prediction_poll_garth_turner/

#79 A wise man once said on 09.24.15 at 5:23 pm

Apologize or this was your last visit here. — Garth

I’m sorry I didn’t pick my words better. I’m evidently not a wordsmith, like Smoking Man or that guy with all the links. Give me the benefit of the doubt, would you? I will make sure to avoid potentially offensive hyperbole next time. What I meant as a humorous ribbing to your sourpuss posts on grrr taxes ended up looking like a personal attack which I didn’t intend. My apologies.

Btw, this is why you need a more modern forum where people can edit their posts. Talk to your tech guy.

Thank you. — Garth

#80 Sheane Wallace on 09.24.15 at 5:29 pm

I think election vote results could be very different, many people do not understand usage of TFSA as a investment vehicle, many don’t even have the money to save to use it.

Hence conservatives might not get proportionally that many votes as on this blog (arguably better financially educated audience).

And the fact that the Liberals and NDP clearly stated that they are not going to support conservative minority government gives little chance for Harper to remain prime minister.

life is strange, stranger things had happened.

#81 Bottoms_Up on 09.24.15 at 5:31 pm

#64 Wrong conclusion on 09.24.15 at 5:08 pm
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Isn’t that why the harper gov got rid of the mandatory long form census and statistical accountability, so they can claim to not have reliable data?

Any statistician will tell you that, outside of the potential for voting abuse, this poll represents “garths bloggers who are inclined to vote”. Take that for what it is.

#82 Smimage on 09.24.15 at 5:32 pm

#76 Sarah
” before Canada completely tarnishes its international image.”
……………………..
What image is that? Do what’s best for yourself, your family (and other Canadians) and quit worrying about your image.

#83 Temblant110 on 09.24.15 at 5:33 pm

I strongly support many initiatives of the Harper government. I have benefited from them. However, there has been a significant erosion of democracy. Bill C51 is one example. Telling senators how to vote is another. Its a one man show. For democracy I would give up some perks including today’s TFSA contribution amount . Its the long run in a democratic Canadian society that really counts.

#84 Bottoms_Up on 09.24.15 at 5:37 pm

#53 Estrella on 09.24.15 at 4:52 pm
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I disagree. It is the middle class that is indebted. They need the tax breaks and jobs. Which party offers the greatest benefit to the middle class?

#85 Sheane Wallace on 09.24.15 at 5:37 pm

#78 A wise man once said on 09.24.15 at 5:23 pm
Apologize or this was your last visit here. — Garth

Btw, this is why you need a more modern forum where people can edit their posts. Talk to your tech guy.
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Outsourcing moderation to a third party to strip offensive comments, personal attacks and rude language (thus avoiding personal preferences, influence and feelings) will make this blog really, really great.

Now it is more like a directed guidance to financial literacy with little opportunity to be even little politically incorrect (exactly what we need in this country).

#86 Sheane Wallace on 09.24.15 at 5:39 pm

#80 Sheane Wallace

GT, and registration would really help to avoid impostors.

#87 Mocha on 09.24.15 at 5:40 pm

the fact that Harper is the only one who doesn’t want to flood the country with unscreened Islamic “migrants” from one of the most volatile, western-hating regions of the planet is the only reason I am considering voting for him. If the other two hadn’t been so gung-ho to let in the hordes, I’d probably be voting NDP. They really blew it (with me) on that issue.

Shame on you. Religious bigot. — Garth

#88 Old and wise, I think on 09.24.15 at 5:40 pm

#51 Sarah
“I’m a millennial. This makes me sad.”
…………………
When did they start allowing millennials to vote?

#89 Balmuto on 09.24.15 at 5:41 pm

This poll may be skewed in some ways (it is most likely skewed by gender, for instance), but it is in line with the general trend and the large sample size means it can’t be easily dismissed. The political betting markets are also indicating a surge in Conservative support (Betfair now has Cons as odds-on favourites to win the most seats whereas NDP were the favourites less than a week ago). This is real. Canadians don’t like Harper but are getting cold feet about the alternatives. I think the latest round of Conservative ads were sharp, they got across the “it could be worse” message very well.

#90 Grooby on 09.24.15 at 5:49 pm

I think it’s pretty clear that this poll doesn’t necessarily represent a diverse source of votes. Nevertheless, it does speak to a trend that the CPC is doing better than it has recently. And with our ‘first past the post’ westminster parliamentary system, it’s not a completely unreasonable scenario that the Libs and Dems split the vote in their ridings and the Cons pull through.

However, what you seem to be ignoring is the list of dubious actions from this gov’t that have people really pissed off, that have nothing to do with the economy. ‘Harper Derangement Syndrome’ is just a juvenile way for social conservatives to label people who are actually socially progressive, which really is the majority of Canadians.

It’s a shame we don’t have the traditional ‘progressive conservatives’ anymore (although Harper’s debt creation is really only rivalled by… Mulroney). The other choices aren’t great, and the Lib/Dem pandering to home owners is really annoying. I miss Paul Martin.

One other thing; I’ve been a long, long time reader of this blog. And until the election was called, political comments on greater fool.ca was generally pro-Conservative, or Libertarian, silver doomer gold-humping End of the World types. To insinuate that the ‘nuts’ are only coming out of the woodwork now is ridiculous.

Also, this blog was much better before the election. I learned a lot about balanced portfolios from you, for which I am forever indebted. However, if I wanted partisan pandering, I’d read the National Post. Can’t wait for it to be over, one way or another.

#91 Big Dipper on 09.24.15 at 5:49 pm

“I’m a Con pollster? You are a funny guy. — Garth“

I don`t understand you comment. You are conservative and you just conducted a poll. Does that not make you a conservative pollster?

The Cons banned me for life. Remember? I’m just a regular Canadian. — Garth

#92 conan on 09.24.15 at 5:51 pm

Good job Garth. Surprising results.

The emperor will hear of this deed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs

#93 Henry Rearden on 09.24.15 at 5:53 pm

No such thing as social justice. Just justice. No need for the qualifier.

#94 Rebecca on 09.24.15 at 5:58 pm

Thankfully this isn’t a scientific poll.

#95 MF on 09.24.15 at 6:02 pm

#76 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 5:22 pm

Good stuff about the personal finances. Absolutely no bearing at all though? You must work for the Government.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think Harper is a shining example of what it means to be a leader either. I just think the other two parties are so bad it makes him look good. You are correct about the planet. To be honest, I think all of the parties will be the same on that issue unfortunately.

You mentioned our international reputation. We should not care one iota about what a bunch of third world dictatorships think about us. They should be more worried about what we think of them IMO. We have the resources, not them. Watching the leaders of other countries pander to these dictators is pathetic.

MF

#96 Sol Orwell on 09.24.15 at 6:02 pm

Well – most polls show the three parties all with roughly 1/3rd of the total vote.

So uhh – doesn’t that show 66% of people don’t want Harper to run the country?

#97 Washed Up Lawyer on 09.24.15 at 6:06 pm

The weighted averaging of opinion polls by Eric Grenier’s threehundredeight.com absolutely nailed the Cinqo de Mayo result in Alberta’s provincial election.

It is the only source of information on opinion polls I pay any attention to, but what do I know.

It will be interesting to see if he incorporates Garth’s results.

Thanks Hon. GT.

#98 Marco on 09.24.15 at 6:07 pm

Bunch of dummies. Thank God my profession depends largely on people making poor life choices.

#99 Van Isle Renter on 09.24.15 at 6:08 pm

I chatted for a while with a local lady wanting support for “The Dogwood Initiative” which she told me was a non-partisan group wanting to get the vote out. She asked me to sign a pledge sheet which I was willing to do, but she held the sheet so I really couldn’t see the top line clearly. When I asked her to see the form, it was actually a pledge sheet to kill the Northern Gateway pipeline, oppose natural gas shipping, oil sands ……. blah blah blah.

I refused to sign and pointed out to her that her car, shoes, GoreTex jacket, and glasses were all made from petroleum. Hypocrisy was rampant.

She had to misrepresent what she was selling to get my support. Liars all…..

#100 Steerage Bilge on 09.24.15 at 6:08 pm

How many votes are from Quebec? A lot of NDP seats/support comes from Quebec obviously.

Poll sampling is likely biased.

#101 SWL1976 on 09.24.15 at 6:10 pm

Barf – Steady hand on the wheel

Let’s hope it’s a minority

Let me be clear, clearly we will have no transparency and more bad guberment

#102 Opa on 09.24.15 at 6:11 pm

Thanks. Hope ur rite.
Btw. The limit in my area is 10 squash. Hope this guy was party huntin.

#103 Mocha on 09.24.15 at 6:12 pm

If being labeled a religious bigot is the price I must pay for taking a stand on unscreened open border policy in order to ensure the safety of my country , then it’s a label that I wear proudly.

I’m a religious bigot.

Your country might be safer without you. — Garth

#104 Freedom First on 09.24.15 at 6:13 pm

Thank you Garth. Yes, the other Parties blew it.

I live in Alberta right now, the 4th Province I have lived in. I was here listening to the voters in Alberta when they voted the NDP in after a 40 year reign by the Conservatives. The reason the cons were voted out, they blamed Albertan’s for everything. In short, they committed Political suicide. H may be a lot of things to a lot of people, but he is a wily Political Fox the Opposing Parties underestimated. Or maybe, they are just lazy, or stupid. Oh Canada…..

#105 Llewelyn on 09.24.15 at 6:14 pm

Sheane – weren’t you voted off? Or is that just another imposter talking.

GT could you please speak with your IT department?

#106 juan gretzky on 09.24.15 at 6:16 pm

Einstein once said, “Many things that count cannot be counted”. I will happily sacrifice TFSA space to end the assault on our democracy and our environment.

#107 stickman on 09.24.15 at 6:18 pm

Garth – It would be interesting to know the income/net worth breakdown of the votes no?

Do you have that information with any other poll? Didn’t think so. — Garth

#108 BPOE Van City on 09.24.15 at 6:20 pm

#103 Mocha on 09.24.15 at 6:12 pm

Can’t help but think this person has an orange sign on their front lawn.

#109 Paul A. on 09.24.15 at 6:20 pm

well sir Garth i think you nailed it, as a restaurant owner/ small business man i listen to my customers and engage them, your poll results mirror what im hearing in the real world, mom and pop day to day reality. lets hope the voters vote with there brains and not there harts on this one, yes the chief (leader) dude is aging and getting a bid tired, but the Indians (the elected folks that get it done) in the mix have done a decent job for years and deserve a mandate to see the country through the current world wide economic mess P.S. for the politically correct bunch out there, the reference to chiefs and Indians is for demonstration only no pun intended against our great first citizens of this nation

#110 James A on 09.24.15 at 6:20 pm

Thanks for the poll Garth, very interesting. I get that your blog would attract fiscally responsible people.

But, does anyone have a theory as to why most of the responsible people are silent lurkers (leaving no comments) and lefties are leaving so much more verbiage? Seems to be the case for all comment sections on the web.

Are they more likely to be unemployed and have time on their hands? Do they have easy boring jobs and are trying to kill time? Or is “try to actively wreck bourgeois society” something taught?

Bourgeois society is lovely by the way. ;)

I just want the 10k TFSA.

#111 misterd on 09.24.15 at 6:21 pm

I had a feeling it would likely be conservative, due to the ridiculous priorities of the other parties.
$15 minimum wages would put all small businesses out of business. No one would higher any students or inexperienced people.

I give up, there are no choices, except move out of the country. Time to buy a little island and live off the grid.

#112 S.Bby on 09.24.15 at 6:24 pm

Lots of sour grapes today. Some people don’t like the truth.

#113 Uncomfortable Truth on 09.24.15 at 6:26 pm

Karl Rove was pretty sure they were gonna win in 2012.

Just sayin….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkRe33nDF08

#114 Leo Trollstoy on 09.24.15 at 6:29 pm

Garth’s poll has made me even more curious for Oct. 20th!

#115 not me on 09.24.15 at 6:30 pm

I did not partake in the voting as there was no “none of the above” choice in the last question.

As few mentioned before I also believe the results are skewed. Anyway I might need to get out there after all, at least to give chance for a minority one.

#116 jess on 09.24.15 at 6:32 pm

Companies in the private sector misrepresenting themselves …rly ?

Exxon’s Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels’ Role in Global Warming Decades Ago
Top executives were warned of possible catastrophe from greenhouse effect, then led efforts to block solutions.
Reporter Neela Banerjee on Exxon and climate change | FRONTLINE

Thanks to a months-long investigation by the Pulitzer-prize winning InsideClimate News, we learned last week that ExxonMobil’s own scientists had secretly confirmed the science behind human-caused climate change as early as the late 1970s.

Investigation Finds Exxon Ignored Its Own Early Climate Change Warnings
September 16, 2015, 11:36 am ET · by Jason M. Breslow

Internal documents show company researchers warning of the risks of global climate change as early as 1977, years before the issue emerged on the national agenda, according to a new investigation by InsideClimate News.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/environment/investigation-finds-exxon-ignored-its-own-early-climate-change-warnings/

#117 bookie on 09.24.15 at 6:34 pm

Talk is cheap.
We should bet, instead.

#118 Freedom First on 09.24.15 at 6:40 pm

#55 a wise man once said

Greatest reply ever Garth!

Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately? it is not the reply I would have given. I can be such an a$$hole.

#119 dude on 09.24.15 at 6:41 pm

Read the blog regularly, rarely read the comments. So I did read the comments from the last few days to get a sense of the mood: Hard to believe so many are willing to hold their nose and vote for H based largely on a $5k difference in TFSA, despite his running up over $150B in deficits, vastly inflating the housing bubble, and building his ‘surplus’ by ripping off first nations, vets, EI, …. it’s a long list. Those are going to cost us all a lot more in the short term and the long term.
And unfortunately as #97 Sol Orwell indicated above, our cr*p first past the post system could lead to another H parliament despite two thirds voting against him. If nations do indeed ‘get the government we deserve’, then we truly are a bunch of short-sighted greater fools. Sigh.

#120 earthboundmisfit on 09.24.15 at 6:45 pm

OMG I hope you are wrong. That news is vomit inducing.

#121 cramar on 09.24.15 at 6:46 pm

#73 Bondgirl on 09.24.15 at 5:18 pm
I guess a few other questions added to yesterday’s survey ie what is your annual income, how much debt outstanding, do you own your home, etc, could’ve helped determine whether the survey was answered mostly by the wealthy or not.

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Copy that! I’m with the group stating that this poll was screwed by the demographic of its readers. The “average” Canadian does not inhabit financial blogs—especially this Reality RE one!. This site does not appeal to average Canadians who are house horny, think RE is ALWAYS the best investment, and cannot lose by buying a house anytime. But…

Time will tell. Barring any political turn between now and the election, if the election mirrors this result, we will know it was accurate. If the opposite happens, we will know the poll results were skewed. My observation is that the average voting Canadian wants to boot the guy out. There is just too much Harper hatred out there.

#122 Mighty Mouse on 09.24.15 at 6:47 pm

“7 Mighty Mouse on 09.24.15 at 4:03 pm

This poll is skewed. The type of people that frequent this blog are not representative of the general population…

____________________________________________

So then, you don’t represent the general population? Does a regular poll initiated by a polling company actually represent the general population?”

– Nope… what I’m saying and what others have pointed out here is that we who frequent this blog are not a good sampling of the general population. Again, refer to Garths blog posting regarding age to income.

Female 39
400k

Small buizness owner…. saver….

#123 BG on 09.24.15 at 6:47 pm

#106 juan gretzky on 09.24.15 at 6:16 pm
Einstein once said, “Many things that count cannot be counted”. I will happily sacrifice TFSA space to end the assault on our democracy and our environment.
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I really hope most people are not voting per their TFSA allegiance.

I would gladly sacrifice mine too to vote for someone who seems like they know what they’re doing.

Can’t vote anyway… Unless the immigration schedules my citizenship ceremony before the 19th.

#124 ANON on 09.24.15 at 6:49 pm

My midsection tells me I gotta cut back on reading the comment section. It’s from all the popcorn.

#125 The Not So Millennial Intern on 09.24.15 at 6:49 pm

Alone in a sea of students addicted to left wing promises of the Greens, NDP and Liberals. I don’t like Harperman, but he’s going to raise TFSA limits and keep taxes low. I am just a lowly 21 year old intern with a maxed TFSA, so the choice is clear.

Generally suffering from electile dysfunction, but doctor said it’s happening to everyone.

Although I would vote for Nice Hair Lad if he didn’t want to trash the TFSA boost.

#126 Sam the Sham on 09.24.15 at 6:50 pm

If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.

“Red” Emma Goldman

#127 Bill Gable on 09.24.15 at 6:55 pm

With the backdrop of the Canadian Election – take a look around the entire planet – it is either insurrection, election, or some other kind of turbulence, that is roiling the electorate.
I guess it was always thus – but, when you have the head of the Fed even HINTING that yes, an interest rate is in the cards, maybe as soon as the next meeting, and the markets promptly tank; and you add that to other economic woes, and I see a few holes in Christmas stockings, for a lot of folks this year.

#128 saskatoon on 09.24.15 at 7:02 pm

wow!!

!!!blog saturation alert!!!

check out all the hyper-rationalized, desperate comments from the unhinged government bootlickers!

reality, apparently, does not agree with them.

be mindful garth: they are the most dangerous of people.

#129 BS on 09.24.15 at 7:02 pm

Conclusion? Trudeau and Mulcair blew it. A giant appetite for change in the man leading Canada is being suppressed in favour of status-quo economic policies.

The one who blew it is the Liberal party for putting Jr. Trudeau as leader. The Liberals went from a guy who can’t communicate (Dion), to a guy who is so arrogant he is unlikable (Ignatieff), to a guy who is just plain dumb (Trudeau). Combine those misfits with regressive economic policy and the Liberals sure make Harper’s job easy. Another Conservative majority coming.

#130 kilby on 09.24.15 at 7:04 pm

Pretty skewed poll considering the regular denizens that frequent this blog (Myself included). If a polling company only called people that were interested in saving money, avoiding taxes and worrying about the “commies” the results would be the same.

Sure. But this vote was open to all. This comment section proves beyond a shadow there is a broad cross-section of political beliefs among readers. Some are just outnumbered, and can’t accept it. — Garth

#131 Bill Gable on 09.24.15 at 7:09 pm

#67 – When I read your original post, I was about to call out the hounds.
Insulting Mr. Turner really was beyond the pale.
I am glad you retracted, and I think it was very gracious for our host for accepting your apology.
Mr. Turner is a very busy gent – and yet he cares enough for US, to give us this amazing blog F R E E.
I know it must take a ton of time.
It is VERY much admired and enjoyed, by average investors like me.

Aretha said it: R -E-S-P-E-C-T. Got it?

#132 BS on 09.24.15 at 7:09 pm

Don’t the majority of people in Canada vote in their best financial interests? — Garth

Of they do. The naive believe in the fairy tale the government can redistribute wealth to them. It appears based on your poll there are still plenty of intelligent people who understand you must earn wealth and the less government interferes the better.

#133 Calgary Rip Off on 09.24.15 at 7:10 pm

Bottom line is that no one really cares what anyone else does unless it affects them.

These politicians are not Kings. They cannot put you to death or enslave you, so ultimately it really doesnt matter who is in power.

It is the little variables that decide one’s fate, not whether some bozo is in office because it is the little people that determine how the other little people do, not some figurehead in Ottawa.

Not that anyone cares or notices.

There is a solution to all this nonsense: Ghostrider of Sweden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CrOpGtL5pM

And study of Go game: http://www.dragongoserver.net

and study of chess: chess.com

The way is to outthink the masses, 99% of whom are deceived by media, which is mind control.

#134 Reasonfirst on 09.24.15 at 7:18 pm

How about a blog post on which party is most likely to trigger a house price correction!

#135 Millmech on 09.24.15 at 7:19 pm

What,no one lighting their hair on fire over the senseless slaughter of vegetables.

#136 Mister Obvious on 09.24.15 at 7:22 pm

#19 Lana Faessler

“I have a TFSA so would want that increased, and not sure why it would hurt anybody to allow that.”
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You’re quite right to be unsure. It won’t hurt anyone to allow a cap of $10,000.

It’s extremely unfortunate that the TFSA is being used as a political football. All this monkeying around with the TSFA is simply means of policy differentiation.

After careful mathematical analysis by his team of economic experts, Justin announces $5000 per year is the ideal cap. Tom figures $5500 is a little closer to the mark. Maybe he consulted his horoscope or figured it out while playing Sudoku, I don’t know, nobody does.

Neither one wants to paint themselves as catering to the rich even if the $10,000 TFSA cap hasn’t got the slightest thing to do with being rich.

It had a ‘bad sound’ to it, so it was rejected outright without proper analysis.

#137 Jake Stephenson on 09.24.15 at 7:25 pm

How is talking money from savers, investors, income earners, businesses and anyone that wants to create jobs and economic prosperity going to solve anything.

The NDP and Liberals to a lesser extent are all about punishing those that are financial responsible that have some RRSP’s, TFSA’s, savings, investments etc.

People that have businesses and start businesses already are getting hit hard from provincial, municipal taxes, fees etc. so I would not be surprised that Kathleen Wynne’s tax, spend, debt, higher electricity prices, increase fees, job killing policies etc. are pushing people towards voting Conservative in Ontario.

#138 Wildword on 09.24.15 at 7:26 pm

This is a deja vu moment to the BC election…

#139 Jake Stephenson on 09.24.15 at 7:26 pm

Correction to my above post. How is taking money from……………

#140 Chris in Nanaimo on 09.24.15 at 7:28 pm

Well this will be the first Canadian Federal Election i can vote in since becoming a Citizen….but as has been said before it’s like choosing which STD you want….

Seems to me the 2 minority parties arent too far spart on policies. Why the heck don’t Mulcair and Trudeau get in bed together and kill the spit vote problem?

#141 jess on 09.24.15 at 7:28 pm

http://desmog.ca/2015/09/22/divestment-movement-has-unexpectedly-exploded-trillions-dollars-and-here-s-why

…”Notably Canada is second after the U.S. as a leader in divestment.”

In June 2015 Pope Francis released his encyclical, making a strong moral argument for climate action. Faith organizations represent $24 billion in divestment assets.

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Dr Weaver: “I am absolutely thrilled with today’s B.C. Supreme Court judgment in my libel case against the National Post, Terence Corcoran, Peter Foster, Kevin Libin and Gordo

In a statement that applies equally to Canada, the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis once noted, “We can have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both.”

#142 common sense on 09.24.15 at 7:30 pm

Fun poll Garth…..Thanks…

Yes the 2 other parties are blowing more than Th PC’s did in Ontario under Hudak.

Sadly, just based on demographics alone, ANY PM is going to have a next to impossible job the next 15 years. And this fully means, trying to diverse our economy out of OIL.

GOOD LUCK….your going to need it.

#143 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 7:32 pm

Hey commies and tree huggers.

I give you a national anthem.

God save our gracious Tree
Long live our noble Tree
God save the Tree
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Tree

#144 Winterpeg on 09.24.15 at 7:32 pm

Too bad some of Garth’s poll questions couldn’t go on the ballots on E-day. Might be interesting.

#145 BC Guy on 09.24.15 at 7:33 pm

CEO Checklist For 2015
___________________

1. Outsource manufacturing department to 3rd world
sweatshop – check
2. Outsource IT department to India – check
3. Expand use of unpaid interns – check
4. Layoff core staff and replace with Temporary Foreign Workers – check
5. Cut benefits and pensions to remaining staff
6. Cover-up organizational and environmental screw-ups to avoid fines and lawsuits – check
7. Give self and top executive team large salary increase – check
8. Give self mandatory minimum bonuses despite losing money last three quarters – check
9. Give self retro-active stock options, then sell for a tidy profit – check
10. Check prices on private jets – check
11. Issue press release to media threatening to close up shop and move south of the border if the Canadian government increases tax on stock option on capital gains – check
12. Issue another press release to media threatening to close up shop and move south of the border if all three levels of government don’t give immediate tax concessions and all-out grants for R+D – check
13. Book lunch appointment with local Conservative candidate – check
14. Arrange limousine for 2 o’clock golf appointment – check

Phew! Being a CEO is hard work!

If you Dippers worked as hard at convincing voters with logic as you do trying to denigrate others, you might not be destined for obscurity. Alas… — Garth

#146 Anna on 09.24.15 at 7:36 pm

55% of financially responsible blog readers don’t want a conservative government. It’s not the poll that’s skewed, it’s our voting system.

#147 WillD on 09.24.15 at 7:38 pm

The last time the pollsters promised a tight race in Ontario, Wynne and the liberals shocked us with a decisive majority. Perhaps a similar thing is happening federally, with a close race in the media polls, it would be shocking to see Harper win another majority. Here’s hoping!

#148 Millenial on 09.24.15 at 7:38 pm

Garth,
Yellen spoke this evening at UMass Amherst. Here’s the last 3 minutes of her speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2UAYgIXG8
She does not look well. And let me be clear I am not making fun of her – we have all had instances of feeling unwell, fortunately most of us don’t have to give speeches regularly in front of cameras. But I don’t think it’s a case of hot lights or maybe eating something that disagreed with her. She’s starting to crack from the stress of it all. She now knows they’ve painted themselves into a corner, and that for certain things are going to tank on her watch.

The only question I have is this: will the FOMC wait until a stock/bond market crash to make interest rates negative?

#149 Harbour on 09.24.15 at 7:40 pm

Obviously a lot of self employed visit this pathetic blog

#150 Debt Collector on 09.24.15 at 7:41 pm

My wife and I make about 50K after taxes. We still can finance our TFSA w/10K each. The TFSA is the best thing that ever happened to our finances and even though I dislike Harper’s style he has bought my vote.

#151 sideline sitter on 09.24.15 at 7:41 pm

Saying that taxing the wealthy more removes the incentive to earn more is utter B.S.

Oh? Explain that. — Garth

#152 GTA Observer on 09.24.15 at 7:42 pm

Keep plugging the anti-democratic authoritarian party … it helps to keep voters from being too complacent to turn out.

#153 lee on 09.24.15 at 7:43 pm

Your poll is skewed because your bloggers kinda know you’re kinda leaning Harper even though you don’t like the man. That bias will have had a huge influence on the poll.

Actually I gave people, like you, more credit. You voted, right? — Garth

#154 Lorne on 09.24.15 at 7:47 pm

#15 Obvious Truth
This was great Garth!! That’s a big sample. Has to be taken seriously.
…….
But hardly an “unbiased”, “random” sampling of the population( no statistician would ever consider this type of poll to be anywher near accurate)!! For those of you that wish to believe in this, well, I think you might end up feeling a bit like Adrian Dix felt when the last BC election results were tabulated (after having a substantial lead in an actual random poll).

#155 sideline sitter on 09.24.15 at 7:47 pm

I firmly believe that TFSAs won’t be touched, regardless who wins

#156 Hesperus on 09.24.15 at 7:48 pm

Undoubtedly the survey results are skewed towards older, wealthier more conservative online voters, but would any of the number crunchers out there validate/speculate how much of a selected population versus the ‘norm’ voted in Garth’s poll? I guess post election we can revisit the guesses with a level of accuracy?

#157 HellYeah on 09.24.15 at 7:53 pm

Has this poll been picked up by ThreeHundredEight.com yet?

#158 Daisy Mae on 09.24.15 at 7:53 pm

Very depressing. However, while Trudeau and Mulcair are promising more taxes and more spending, Harper continues to bribe all segments of society…..

#159 Mike from Mtl on 09.24.15 at 7:57 pm

Interesting results indeed, though I fully expected a somewhat strong swing for the CONs here.

Hey I just checked my electoral district and damn wouldn’t you know there’s an actual confirmed Rhinoceros Party candidate!

Frig this changes everything.

#160 conan on 09.24.15 at 7:59 pm

Would not be surprised if Liberals announce in the near future that TFSA stays at 10k.

#161 Scumop on 09.24.15 at 7:59 pm

I declined to vote on the TFSA question. Since the liberals will go back to $5500 and indexing it while Cons stay 10K and not index it, its more this years status quo vs last years status quo – just not that big a deal.

Trudeau says he will dump the F-35. Yay, now at 5 times the original price. A fighter for the days of mutually assured destruction and Soviet vs Western posturing, not one suited to modern regional warfare against enemies with little or no air force.

But that announcement would have cost a lot of votes on an “omfg no F-35 we’re all doomed” emotional reaction. He did not say no fighter, just different and for less money.

My local incumbent is Conservative, and quite good, but he runs with a bad crowd so I will vote against him. Next election if Harper is gone, I could again vote Con. TBD.

The world will not end no matter who wins (except Green). And election promises have often been worthless, even the exact opposite of the final outcome.

Polls can be fun and interesting, but there is only one poll that counts.

Voted against more taxes on the rich and corps. If Gov would just spend less on palaces, junkets, programs of the moment, and empire building, we could all have lower taxes.

#162 Toasty Gonads on 09.24.15 at 8:00 pm

#135 Millenial on 09.24.15 at 7:38 pm

Garth,
Yellen spoke this evening at UMass Amherst. Here’s the last 3 minutes of her speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2UAYgIXG8
She does not look well. And let me be clear I am not making fun of her – we have all had instances of feeling unwell, fortunately most of us don’t have to give speeches regularly in front of cameras. But I don’t think it’s a case of hot lights or maybe eating something that disagreed with her. She’s starting to crack from the stress of it all. She now knows they’ve painted themselves into a corner, and that for certain things are going to tank on her watch.

The only question I have is this: will the FOMC wait until a stock/bond market crash to make interest rates negative?

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Wow…… she barely made it through that without spewing!!….

#163 BC Guy on 09.24.15 at 8:02 pm

“If you Dippers worked as hard at convincing voters with logic as you do trying to denigrate others, you might not be destined for obscurity. Alas… — Garth”

Ooooh! Garth is mad now! I guess the truth hurts!

Hey, I used to vote Conservative and work for a large corporation, but then I wised up.

#164 Daisy Mae on 09.24.15 at 8:04 pm

#68: “Please. I’m a millennial too and I want a Harper majority.”

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Well, it doesn’t take much — 35% of the electorate should do it.

#165 Blacksheep on 09.24.15 at 8:04 pm

“But is it accurate?”
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This blog is frequented by a bunch of economically obsessed, business owning, Real Estate junky’s, that by know means, represents the average Canadian citizen.

Big surprise…the Con’s blew the doors off the other, socialistic parties.

Read the comments. I’d say lefties abound here. — Garth

#166 Another Marco on 09.24.15 at 8:05 pm

Just think if this poll holds true to election, Harper and the Conservatives are left holding their bag of an economy riding the razors edge.
Unlike George W, he was outta there in 2.

Cheers.

#167 Poor Canada on 09.24.15 at 8:06 pm

Garth – It would be interesting to know the income/net worth breakdown of the votes no?

Do you have that information with any other poll? Didn’t think so. — Garth

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Mr. Turner – With the 7,000+ votes recorded in your poll, how would the number 7,000+ compare to your usual daily volume of visitors to your blog ?

Beats me. I haven’t looked lately. — Garth

#168 Daisy Mae on 09.24.15 at 8:08 pm

“My distaste for Harper stems from the overall sociopolitical, scientific, and environmental damage he has caused during his time in office…”

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Well, he DID say…..

#169 Johnny d on 09.24.15 at 8:10 pm

It’ll be a minority government for sure, which should be good in theory because all political mindsets are equally represented in parliament… However, due to political jockeying for power, we will be hitting the polls every few months until someone gets in with a clear majority. Then, just like with Harper, everyone will be complaining that this person has too much control and everything passed with no opposition or debate. This is unfortunately the Canada we will be stuck with… One with only extreme left or right policies depending on whose majority is in power. At least we’re not the U.S. where everything grinds to a halt in the Senate or congress unless there is a clear majority. We just hit the polls again and again until we pick our undisputed overlord. True democracy is dead.

#170 Blacksheep on 09.24.15 at 8:11 pm

No means, not, know means.

#171 Daisy Mae on 09.24.15 at 8:12 pm

#9: ” What I meant as a humorous ribbing to your sourpuss posts on grrr taxes ended up looking like a personal attack which I didn’t intend. My apologies.

Btw, this is why you need a more modern forum where people can edit their posts. Talk to your tech guy.

Thank you. — Garth”

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That was nice. Garth knocks himself out to help us…and he truly cares. We need to appreciate that.

#172 Tommydouglas on 09.24.15 at 8:16 pm

I voted and I will be voting again on October 19th. Thanks Garth!

#173 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 8:18 pm

Ha, even after many scathing letters to the Dippers they keep sending me emails.

As far as thinking the votes where no a correct representation.

Just In my inbox.

Smoking Man

This morning, I turned on the radio and heard that a new poll has Stephen Harper in majority government territory.

This is not OK.

We’ve got less than a month to go – and one last fundraising deadline to change this campaign and the future of our country.

Can we count on you to chip in $5 or more right now?

For people like you and me, it’s unthinkable Stephen Harper could win another majority government.

But honestly – there’s not much $54 million can’t get you.

I know that’s not what you want to hear, but it’s true. We can’t afford to let Stephen Harper buy this election.

Donate $5 or more before we run out of time:

https://action.ndp.ca/donate

Thanks,

Pratt

James Pratt
Director of Organization
Canada’s New Democrats

#174 debtified on 09.24.15 at 8:18 pm

Garth, it would be very interesting if you cross-reference these results, using IP addresses, with other informal polls you have done in the past. For example, the one for Salaries.

Just an idea. You probably already know how valuable the data you have accummulated in your Comment Section.

Thank you again for the free public service!

#175 awesomepoll on 09.24.15 at 8:22 pm

Voted Thrice..Home, office and cellphone. And, I am not even a 1%er.

Then you disrespected us all. Why? — Garth

#176 Poor Canada on 09.24.15 at 8:24 pm

Mr. Turner – With the 7,000+ votes recorded in your poll, how would the number 7,000+ compare to your usual daily volume of visitors to your blog ?

Beats me. I haven’t looked lately. — Garth

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Perhaps you should look sir. If the 7,000+ is substantially higher that the normal volume of traffic that frequents your blog, then one might conclude that outside forces have intentionally skewed the results of your poll.

Just had a look. Seems to average between 15,000 and 20,000 unique users a day. How does that jibe with your conspiracy theory? — Garth

#177 y m o 2 on 09.24.15 at 8:28 pm

Ontario physicians are organizing on social media against Wynne and cuts/clawbacks to healthcare. Look under #codeblue #carenotcuts #oncall4ON Our action is also to ‘vote for anyone other than Trudeau’ in hopes of getting fed Liberals to pressure provincial Liberals.

#178 Herf on 09.24.15 at 8:33 pm

Hey Garth. Harper’s wife is a biker. I wonder if it’s a Harley? :

“He detested small talk. He thrived in political debates at university, but vanished when his opponents tried to take him for beer afterward. Williams was the one “dragging” him to social functions. Later, it would be Laureen Teskey doing the dragging, with Harper riding on the back of her motorcycle.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/the-nerd-who-came-from-nowhere-stephen-harper-knows-you-dont-need-to-like-a-politician-to-elect-him

I believe she rode a dirt bike. — Garth

#179 Blacksheep on 09.24.15 at 8:35 pm

“Read the comments. I’d say lefties abound here. — Garth”
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The left is outspoken and recklessly spill, while the right is cold, quiet and calculating.

Don’t get me wrong.

I’m heavily in the right camp, but am un characteristically struggling with my conscience due to: Bill C-51 / TTP / Canadians warring on foreign soil.

#180 Daisy Mae on 09.24.15 at 8:36 pm

Harper is crafty. We have this long lead-up to the election simply because he’s giving Trudeau and Mulcair enuf rope to hang themselves. And they’re falling into his trap….so, he wins. He doesn’t care how he does it.

#181 Renter's Revenge! on 09.24.15 at 8:38 pm

@BC Guy

You forgot to check off “5. Cut benefits and pensions to remaining staff”

#ChiefFailOfficer

#182 souvereigninternational on 09.24.15 at 8:40 pm

“But the biggest lesson here? Never, ever think the nutjobs in the comments section speak for the many. They’re cute. But they don’t hunt.”

Well Let’s see:

Calling all the nutjobs!

comment with numbers:

1- will vote for other (name the party)

2-will not vote (vote against electoral system etc.)

3-will vote none of the above

#183 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.24.15 at 8:41 pm

Thanks, Garth for the great spectacle of Political Theater.
It’s true, you can take the politician out of politics, but not the politics out of the politician.

#184 Investorz on 09.24.15 at 8:42 pm

Stock market:

If you remove Valeant the TSX is down pretty much 20% from its high.

Now check this:

Housing didn’t even roll over. Imagine if it does. People, diversify out of Canada. If you like ETFs, buy something like $ZDM.TO and $XSP.TO. Buy enough of it so your TSX holding is less than 30%.

Good idea this poll. It’ll make people will talk about elections and that’s good.

#185 Poor Canada on 09.24.15 at 8:43 pm

20,000 unique users a day. How does that jibe with your conspiracy theory? — Garth

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It certainly would appear to dispel the conspiracy theory.

#186 Ex-Cowtown on 09.24.15 at 8:43 pm

#105 juan gretzky on 09.24.15 at 6:16 pm

Einstein once said, “Many things that count cannot be counted”. I will happily sacrifice TFSA space to end the assault on our democracy and our environment.
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Green tyranny will do neither. Watch John Stossels excellent takedown of the EPA etc on Youtube.

Being kept poor only means that you work at the pleasure of others. Nothing noble in that.

People who want to rollback the TSFA limit have merely lost hope that they’ll better their own lives and wish to deny hope to those who have not given up. Being financially independent is a goal that we should all have as that is the best defence against any assault on democracy.

#187 Victor V on 09.24.15 at 8:43 pm

U.S. Fed still on track for interest rate hike this year: Janet Yellen

http://business.financialpost.com/investing/global-investor/u-s-fed-still-on-track-for-interest-rate-hike-this-year-janet-yellen

“Most FOMC participants, including myself, currently anticipate that achieving these conditions will likely entail an initial increase in the federal funds rate later this year, followed by a gradual pace of tightening thereafter,” Yellen said in prepared remarks at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst.

#188 Sean on 09.24.15 at 8:46 pm

Skewed sample.. though I voted with the majority here, I don’t think it is representative. A prior Fool Dog poll showed the income levels represented here.. way above average. Let’s face it, the left leaning pot smoking Marx reading tree hugging bleeding hearts are not amongst us.. they are the “don’t have a million” twits who wish they had a million, so they could blow it on the proverbial slanty semi… Skewed sample!

#189 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.24.15 at 8:47 pm

Garth, is MF one of the “nut jobs” you’re talking about?
See post #95

#190 Lead paint on 09.24.15 at 8:50 pm

Thanks Garth – how did the old stock Canadians vote compared to everyone else?

If Harper wins I get the benefit of enhancing my economic situation, and a free conscience knowing I voted against that anti-democratic, anti-science zealot.

Yes I am voting against my financial best interests to protect this country.

#191 Intuitive Missus on 09.24.15 at 8:55 pm

Another poll for readers. To see which party they are most closely aligned with.

http://www.votecompass.com/

#192 Leo Trollstoy on 09.24.15 at 8:58 pm

Inflation. Coming soon to a store near you Canada.

Told ya.

http://www.businessinsider.com/canadas-retail-prices-historic-jump-2015-9

#193 Rexx Rock on 09.24.15 at 9:03 pm

I think the majority of Canadians will have to agree with Mocha.Migrant tax coming to Canada.
The working poor Canadians should go to Germany and just say their migrants to,they would have a better life in Germany.

#194 Vivek on 09.24.15 at 9:03 pm

Very interesting results, Garth. I wish there were more these polls – it would be great to know about the demographics of the readers, their views on their economy (local) and which province they’re from.

#195 Retired Boomer - WI on 09.24.15 at 9:06 pm

The BLOG has voted. Then the blog doth spoke.

I don’t get it? SEVEN questions were asked. Only one was slated toward opinion of a leader. Five dealt with economics, yours foremost.

I agree with the majority on the economic questions.

Yes leave the TFSA alone, don’t roll it back.

No don’t raise taxes ion the “RICH”

No don’t raise corporate taxes

No don’t raise the minimum wage to $15

I would select the GREEN party, but that is who I are.

I don’t care for the redistributionist ideas of the NDP or the Liberals. No robin-hood style for me. If you earn a ton you can afford a higher percentage of tax than someone earning ‘average wages’. From what I can see, they already PAY higher taxes! isn’t that ‘fair’ already?

Sorry, there in not now, nor has there ever been a FREE LUNCH.

Unskilled, handicapped, uneducated, or broke & retired, society will not let you starve, nor should they. That’s why we have this thing called a ‘civilization.’ Will you live as ‘well’ as somebody who earns an above average wage? No, nor should you be ‘entitled’ to that.

We, however, are not entitled to take from those that earn more than is absolutely needed to provide what has been determined to be the minimum needed to function as a sovereign country.

As an American, this goes for our war loving, debt infused, idiocy of a society we call the U.S. I only need to function as best I can within the confines of our laws, and our choices – same as you.

Don’t blame the host for the outcome of the poll. YOU voted for it. Your real vote comes in October, whether that result will reflect the poll (probable) as the competition to Harper seems so dam lame.

#196 souvereigninternational on 09.24.15 at 9:08 pm

Read the comments. I’d say lefties abound here. — Garth

Same old Left-Right paradigm. Glad to be a nutjob tinfoil hat wearer.

#197 Herf on 09.24.15 at 9:09 pm

#165 Another Marco

“Unlike George W, he was outta there in 2.”

I think a case can be made for adopting that part of the U.S. system into Canadian politics – after two terms in office, throw the bum(s) out, both leaders and grunt MPs/MLAs. No more life-time politicians or political leaders.

#198 Yuus bin Haad on 09.24.15 at 9:20 pm

In re-doing my straw poll here, I have corroborated Garth’s observation: Justin and Tom are definitely blowing it. What a difference a week makes – the anti-majority swell seems to have broken. Let’s see if Justin and/or Tom scan this blog.

#199 DON on 09.24.15 at 9:20 pm

#68 MF on 09.24.15 at 5:11 pm

#51 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 4:52 pm

Please. I’m a millennial too and I want a Harper majority.

Save us from our dumb generation instead.

MF
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Does Sarah work in the PMO? or want to?

#200 sideline sitter on 09.24.15 at 9:24 pm

GT – you asked me to explain my comment at #150, here goes:

if presented with an opportunity to earn more money, either via salary, or more sales, or another contract, people will say ‘yes’.

I find it really hard to believe that someone would refuse additional income because their tax rate is different.

No one said no to a raise because their tax bracket changed.

The ONLY time what you said is true is when someone might consider opening a business and can do so in any number of jurisdictions, which is not the case for the vast majority of people.

#201 For those about to flop... on 09.24.15 at 9:24 pm

I did not vote in Garth’s poll as I do not intend to vote on Election Day but what I am finding funny is the people complaining about other people voting con just to save their tfsa limit.
As Garth showed the other week the difference for the average person is huge.
If the cons lose this election they will be voted back in 4 years time albeit with a new leader which will work in their favour and the tfsa will be ramped back up.
Non reg investments in the meantime 2016-2020

#202 Victor V on 09.24.15 at 9:25 pm

http://themashcanada.blogspot.ca/2015/09/and-it-went-for-51-roxborough-drive.html

I can’t believe it.

The 3+1 bedroom, 3 bathroom Barton Meyers house on a 37.63 x 165.74 foot lot at 51 Roxborough Drive that was built in 1974 has finally sold!

It was first listed in September 2012 for $6,500,000.

I thought it was too high…..like a million or so too high.

It didn’t sell and the price was dropped in May 2013 to $5,995,000.

And then in November to $5,595,000.

Then in March 2014 to $5,195,000. I still thought it was too high.

In September 2014, the price was dropped to $4,995,000.

Most recently, in May 2015, the price was dropped again to $4,695,000. I didn’t think it was the last drop.

It was. But the house didn’t sell at the asking price. It sold below.

But it sold!

Just under $2 million less than the first asking price…

After 3 years on the market and 5 price drops….

This house finally sold…

For $4,554,000.

#203 Llewelyn on 09.24.15 at 9:29 pm

Point of order here.

I don’t know who the person claiming to be Llewelyn on post #104 is but I can assure you he, or she, was not me.

If someone is going to start put words in my mouth it is probably time to bid adieu to this site before my doppleganger gets me barred for life or prohibits me from running for political office.

A liitle stronger identity protection would be appreciated of

#204 Grey Dog on 09.24.15 at 9:29 pm

Ouch!
Many thanks Garth.

#205 Gregor Samsa on 09.24.15 at 9:31 pm

So another Harper majority is coming. What will that look like I wonder?

– The finance minister will continue to be Joe (what’s an economy?) Oliver.
– In one or two years Harper will retire and in comes appointee “Prime Minister Jason Kenny!”
– The conservatives will likely attempt to stick to balanced budgets no matter what, so here comes more government cuts and asset sales. Many will applaud this, until they actually try to use something the government provides…
– The CBC will be done and privatized within 2 years (they just announced the sale of ALL real estate in Canada. If that’s not an act of desperation, what is?)
– Canada will maintain a reputation as an environmental backwater and our exports will be accordingly punished for it.
– Because of all the job losses and austerity Canada’s economy will not grow.
– Our reputation around the world will continue to suffer because of our warmongering foreign policy stances.
– The housing bubble will finally pop (one positive thing about a Harper re-election, I suppose) resulting in a devastated economy by the time the next election rolls around.

I’m actually a bit torn. The anarchist side of me wants to vote Harper because it will result in a quicker destruction of Canada, and maybe something better could emerge from the ashes. But most of me still thinks Canada is worth saving.

I know something must be wrong with me, I’m not thinking about my TFSA at all here! Maybe someday I will manage to get my priorities straight.

#206 Lorne on 09.24.15 at 9:32 pm

#168 Johnny
It’ll be a minority government for sure, which should be good in theory because all political mindsets are equally represented in parliament… However, due to political jockeying for power, we will be hitting the polls every few months until someone gets in with a clear majority. Then, just like with Harper, everyone will be complaining that this person has too much control and everything passed with no opposition or debate. This is unfortunately the Canada we will be stuck with… One with only extreme left or right policies depending on whose majority is in power. At least we’re not the U.S. where everything grinds to a halt in the Senate or congress unless there is a clear majority. We just hit the polls again and again until we pick our undisputed overlord. True democracy is dead.
……..
Have you ever heard of “proportional representation”, as utilized in 23 of 28 Western European countries?? You might want to read up on it….it is coming!

#207 awesomepoll on 09.24.15 at 9:34 pm

174 awesomepoll on 09.24.15 at 8:22 pm

Voted Thrice..Home, office and cellphone. And, I am not even a 1%er.

Then you disrespected us all. Why? — Garth

Not to disrespect. I just wanted to let you know that the poll result is not kosher as you mentioned. Conducting a scientific poll should be left to a profesional polling firm. You have been bang-on on financial matters and real estate. I agree with you on all your expertise, but conducting a poll.. naa.

People lie to pollsters. You have no point. Sorry about Mr. Mulcair. Nice beard, though. — Garth

#208 A Tory harvest | Realties.ca on 09.24.15 at 9:37 pm

[…] Source: http://www.greaterfool.ca/2015/09/24/a-tory-harvest/ […]

#209 BS on 09.24.15 at 9:38 pm

More entertaining than the poll is the comments of the lefties trying to discount the results.

If anything the results in this poll will be skewed in favour of the parties the Millennials would like in power (not the Conservatives). We can assume the Millennials would have voted in Garth’s poll since it was so easy. We know the Millennials won’t bother voting in the real election where they actually have to leave their parents basement.

Conservative landslide.

#210 souvereigninternational on 09.24.15 at 9:43 pm

#149 Debt Collector on 09.24.15 at 7:41 pm

My wife and I make about 50K after taxes. We still can finance our TFSA w/10K each. The TFSA is the best thing that ever happened to our finances and even though I dislike Harper’s style he has bought my vote.

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Good for you. There is so much more to family finances than just salary. I’m sure you did that with 5 kids and a mortgage in T.O. and taking care of elderly disabled parents. If you answered yes – my question – how do the woodchips taste for breakfast before your daily 5 mile walk to work?

#211 David McDonald on 09.24.15 at 9:44 pm

The selection bias of Garth’s poll has been noted by many. The sample size is large but that won’t overcome the selection bias. As a scientific instrument to predict the election results it’s worthless.

On the other hand it’s an interesting sociological data point. It brings home the reality that the Conservatives have a core constituency and it’s never over till it’s over.

#212 Uhhhh on 09.24.15 at 9:46 pm

“Poll of Conservative blog readers indicates strong support for Conservatives.” Not exactly brilliant insight.

They don’t sound too conservative to me. — Garth

#213 Lead paint on 09.24.15 at 9:47 pm

My opinion is that Canadians do not like Harper but have a visceral sense that we are already squeezing all the potential tax sources enough… that we cannot keep adding new social programs by increasing taxes. In this I think they are right.

We all know that the federal government is huge and has many unproductive elements. The field was open for the other parties to fund new programs, or properly fund existing programs (healthcare, OAS, CPP) by reducing inefficient programs. But they blew it. They are offering new programs on top of inefficient, under-funded existing programs. Canadians know that ultimatey they’ll be on the hook, not the1%.

#214 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 9:48 pm

@#144 BC Guy

You left out your usual rant about “rich foreigners” owning the Gang Ranch in BC.

Dude. You’re slipping.
Time to expropriate that mythical 10 acre farm and git back to the land!
Imagine….Leased Quadrunners, jet skis and tons a beer to ease the pain of those pesky property taxes….
But you can handle it ….. cuz yer a BC Guy
Yee Hawwwww.

#215 BS on 09.24.15 at 9:48 pm

I find it really hard to believe that someone would refuse additional income because their tax rate is different.

I guess you have never had job. People refuse to work overtime all the time even though it pays at least 1.5 times their normal rate. Higher taxation on overtime pay is a major reason. Higher taxes will make that worse. If you ever get out into the real world you will understand.

#216 Randy Randerson on 09.24.15 at 9:49 pm

I’d have to agree with some of the commenters, most blog dogs are already self-selected bunch, who are on top of their personal finance situation and is aware of TFSA’s benefit. Having said that, it does seem to strengthen the idea that the Cons will probably win this election.

I want the Cons to win, but not Harper the dictator to lead. Is it so much to ask?

#217 Doug in London on 09.24.15 at 9:59 pm

I was in a good mood until I read these results. Now I know why there’s a market for antidepressants.

#218 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 10:02 pm

@#150 Sideline squatter
“Saying that taxing the wealthy more removes the incentive to earn more is utter B.S….”
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Well I’d say the meltdown of the USSR was a pretty good lesson in how zero incentive to work hard can crush the work ethic in 3 generations of “workers”. Not to mention the legions of alcoholics that showed up to work to continue drinking themselves to death. Russia, a “1st world” country where the average age of mortality men has dropped…..
Russia where communism has been replaced by facism, corruption and an increasingly paranoid oligarcy

Working hard to improve ones life Part Deux?
It took starving 50,000,000 people to death in the early 1960’s in China to prove to Mao and his communist lickspittles that perhaps the whole “every one is equal commune thingy” on farms where food wasnt grown, wasnt harvested, and wasnt distributed. wasnt such a great idea after all…..

Shame you couldnt have been there….to witness the horror….of course.
Try reading “Tombstone” by Yang Jisheng. Its a tad dry with his endless references but it gets the idea across that communism is a failed endeavour…

#219 Nemesis on 09.24.15 at 10:02 pm

“They’re cute. But they don’t hunt.” – HonGT

#ItIsn’tSporting… #ToPursueOpponents… #ThatCan’tReturnFire…

https://youtu.be/A5_IbxfB1ZA

#220 Little Dipper on 09.24.15 at 10:04 pm

“Read the comments. I’d say lefties abound here. — Garth”

Exactly. This is actually one of the more interesting takeaways from your poll. Your results show that 54.5% of those polled do not intend to vote Conservative, with just under 20% intending to vote NDP. That’s a lot of lefties! Perhaps one of the more reassuring conclusions we can draw from these results is that the majority of your readers, regardless of whom they intend to vote for, have an awful lot in common, at least when it comes to personal finance and taxes. For example, even some of those Dippers you keep insulting seem to believe that the TFSA contribution limits are fine the way they are. Actually, I suspect you have more in common with some of these bile-spewing lefties than you care to admit–not least because you yourself spew your fair share of bile every day here on this blog…

What I mean is, most of us lefties can’t stand Stephen Harper for the very same reasons you can’t stand the man, and these reasons have little to do with tax rates or TFSAs: we hate Harper for systematically chipping away at Canadian democracy, for stifling dissent, for proroguing Parliament, for stuffing the Senate with corrupt incompetents like Mike Duffy, for tarnishing Canada’s image in the world through an inhumane and incompetent foreign policy, for his attack on science and on the environment, and on Canadian democratic institutions in general…I could go on ad nauseam, but I am sure that by now your readers are familiar with all of this.

You seem to reserve a special pleasure for prodding your “lefty” readers, though you clearly enjoy mocking pretty much everyone who reads this blog; and yet we come back for more, so you must be onto something. However, many of us are more moderate than you give us credit for: we recognize the importance of taking responsibility for our retirement and the incredible contribution the TFSA represents for most Canadians, for instance. Similarly, I believe that many Conservatives must be aghast at the damage Harper is doing to the country, to the environment, and to the Conservative “brand”. We should be able to find some sort of common ground: might have to wait for a minority government, though, preferably in a Parliament that no longer includes Stephen Harper as leader of the Conservative Party of Canada.

#221 Drill Baby Drill on 09.24.15 at 10:04 pm

I love the results of this poll.

#222 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 10:05 pm

So funny watching the millennial wine about the CONs

When I was in my early twenties I was hard core NDP. Truth Justice and the Canadian way. As was every one I know. In my early 30s went Liberal, even helped in campaigns.

Then something happened, I got educated. Then made my first million, and subsequently lost it.

I became conservative in my forties. And every one of us who where dippers and later learned how to sell things rather than our time. All went conservative. Pals that ended up with dead end jobs working for govt are still dippers.

So my point being, if you learn to make your oun loot, conservative, if you need to be feed like a hopeless infant, your a dipper.

Fear not little dippers, in time, many of you will learn to fish..

So Boomers go easy on these kids, we all walked in there shoes in our early lives.

#223 Lead paint on 09.24.15 at 10:06 pm

I’d like to thank the poster who pointed out how Ontario liberals are doing with doctors:

http://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-doctors-launch-social-media-campaign-to-protest-fee-cuts-1.2579339

The 1% also those who treat our ailments. Wether you tax their income more or cut their funds, they will show up to work less. We are not the US, we do not have billionaire hedge fund managers paying no tax.

#224 Mf on 09.24.15 at 10:07 pm

#188 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.24.15 at 8:47 pm

Lol you wish.

Mf

#225 Jean V. on 09.24.15 at 10:08 pm

Harper was destroyed in the French language debate tonight.

He looked simply awful, unbelievable. Mes amis francophones all agreed he is toast in Quebec.

No majority for him. Not even a minority.

Quebec counts too, Garth. Don’t forget us. If you do, we’ll mess you up every time.

#226 Mf on 09.24.15 at 10:09 pm

#198 DON on 09.24.15 at 9:20 pm

Definitely sounded like she had zero worry about her job. Sounded like a public servant to me.

Mf

#227 Doug in London on 09.24.15 at 10:10 pm

@BS, post #214:
If higher taxes create a disincentive for working then high taxes are a GOOD THING and a sound argument for high taxes. If the workload of an employer requires overtime on a regular basis, then hiring more staff should be the solution. Wouldn’t that go a long way to lowering this nagging high level of unemployment we have in this country?

#228 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 10:12 pm

@#195 soveriegninternational
“Glad to be a nutjob tinfoil hat wearer….”
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You support large multinational corporations polluting the planet for the legions of tinfoil hatters?
For shame.

#229 Joe2.0 on 09.24.15 at 10:16 pm

Yellen says interests rates can’t go far below zero.
Economies broken.

She said rates are still expected to increase in 2015. — Garth

#230 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 10:18 pm

@#206 awesomepoll
“Conducting a scientific poll should be left to a profesional polling firm. You have been bang-on on financial matters and real estate. I agree with you on all your expertise, but conducting a poll.. naa.”
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Apparently you dont live in BC where the last provincial election had the Liberals running a distant second behind the NDP 4 weeks before the election.
The NDP led in the polls right up to the election day.
They lost.

#231 Leo Trollstoy on 09.24.15 at 10:21 pm

#128 BS on 09.24.15 at 7:02 pm

A nice short summary.

It definitely looks like the Libs are caught in a death spiral…

#232 Auschwitz on 09.24.15 at 10:21 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/canada-election-2015-ndp-hamilton-alex-johnstone-auschwitz-1.3241065

#233 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 10:21 pm

@#209 soveriegn
“I’m sure you did that with 5 kids and a mortgage in T.O. and taking care of elderly disabled parents. If you answered yes – my question – how do the woodchips taste for breakfast before your daily 5 mile walk to work?”
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Wow! Took two Bitter Pills today did we?

#234 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 10:23 pm

MF you so project. I can tell where you live, your age, your religous affiliations, hell even your eye and hair color.

Unlike me.

Half think I’m insane, the others go with genius.

Some have me as a poor shlep, others think I’m rich.

Some think I’m Jewish, others have me labeled as a white supremacy neo Nazi.

IS he pro Russia or Pro USA.

No one really knows, including me.

Some think I’m Illiterate, others think it’s a fuex

All hallmarks of a great writer.

Waiting for your applause…

But knowing you, I know a dis is on the way.

#235 Cyclist on 09.24.15 at 10:24 pm

199 Sitter – You can work for me anytime! I’ll pay you $20
for the first hour,$16 for the second, $12 for the third etc. And you can have all the OT you want!

#236 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 10:26 pm

@#224 jean V
“Harper was destroyed in the French language debate tonight.”
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I was wondering how that debate went.
Very interesting.

#237 MSM-Free Zone on 09.24.15 at 10:26 pm

– two-trick economy; resource extraction and housing inflation,
– contempt for free-market forces,
– contempt for balanced budgets,
– contempt for science,
– contempt of Parliament,
– contempt for the Supreme Court of Canada,
– contempt for openness, accountability, and transparency,
– contempt for free speech,
– contempt for democracy,
– contempt for servicemen and women who maintain free speech and democracy,
– contempt for the average Canadian’s intelligence,

These are not the hallmarks of a true (c)onservative government.

These are the hallmarks of a gonorrhea-infected government gone mad, plunging it’s country off a financial and moral cliff.

Pathetic to see so many here are blinded to the above, instead, trading their country’s soul for a miniscule $5k increase to their TFSA contribution limits.

#238 Lead paint on 09.24.15 at 10:26 pm

#221 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 10:05 pm

Wow… you wrote something intelligent… was it really you? Not many typos either.

#239 H on 09.24.15 at 10:29 pm

Funny Garth.

I watched Yellens speach tonight. Strange how SHE specifically referenced Japan 2 decades of zero inflation, with slides, and spent time drawing comparison.

Perhaps you can now see the comparison. I recall not too long ago you dismissed this as laughable.

“big strong USA” does not have a similarity. Well she seems to disagree.

#240 TRT on 09.24.15 at 10:32 pm

I am hedged.

i will make $$ if Cons win….i will make money if Lib/NDP win. Just need to tweak a little.

Amazing that MSM can cause a vote split and allow Harper to win. So be it.

Congratulations Garth. I was wrong about your blog’s audience.

#241 TRT on 09.24.15 at 10:32 pm

Oh,

and help get UBER in Toronto.

Huge vote today. Tweet your councillors!

#242 Nosty, etc. on 09.24.15 at 10:35 pm

#195 souvereigninternational on 09.24.15 at 9:08 pm — “Same old Left-Right paradigm. Glad to be a nutjob tinfoil hat wearer.”

Far more realistic and balanced, so ditto.
*
#271 MF on 09.23.15 at 11:30 pm — “I won’t stand idle when someone tries to poison other people’s minds with conspiracy theories though.”

I understand you don’t comprehend that six corporations control 90% of the west’s m$m (incl. Fox), and that you have used your own freedom of choice to remain a schooled zombie, always bowing to the establishment and society by being unwilling to accept that others have differing opinions from yours. Well, screw society and stuff the establishment.

If you believe that a man living in a cave orchestrated the events of Sept. 11/2001, then by all means, remain in your self-imposed shell. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
*
Specifically for MF (to have a major dose of reality injected). Cycles are changing, possibly in this or the next lifecycle. Get used to it; Target and Robots Robots don’t need unions (or money(, and Weaponized Artificial Intelligence; Europe distintegrating? A2030 and the economic world order; 60,000 homeless in LA.

#243 Mark on 09.24.15 at 10:35 pm

Anyone stop to think that investor returns might be better under a government that destroys investment confidence, at least in the short-medium term?

For example, the contemporary TSX index of Canadian companies pays out only 1/3rd of its earnings, and re-invests the other 2/3rds. This aggressive re-investment is profoundly deflationary as it inhibits price growth in the economy. The lack of price growth may serve to suppress corporate earnings.

So if a hypothetical future government discouraged business investment, businesses would probably stop retaining earnings, and would start to pay them out as dividends to shareholders. The TSX index’s yield would go from 3% to 8% or even higher in a matter of a few years into such regime. With higher inflation, corporate earnings themselves should improve. A decent chunk of the TSX exhibits positive leverage to corporate earnings, hence, the P/E ratio may expand on the indexes in response to such.

To me, this may ironically be the recipe to a much higher stock market than the almost zero all-in returns seen in the past 7-8 years under the Tory regime.

I’m sure we all remember what happened with the income trusts circa 2001-2005. Their structure forced them to pay out 100% of cashflows. Investors were so enthused about those high-yield investments that they actually started bidding on as though they were GICs. The term, “GIC refugee” was actually coined in response to the behaviour of the era.

Perhaps this could be the path to favourable investor outcomes even if the NDP is elected? Just a thought. Criticize away, but its well known that the financial markets have provided some pretty impressive performance under more left-leaning governments in both Canada and the USA. For example, the TSE made a triple in a mere 7 years under the Liberal government of the 1990s. TSE returns were pretty strong in the Trudeau Sr. era as well.

#244 Sluggo on 09.24.15 at 10:35 pm

I wouldn’t put it past the PMO to have stuck an intern in front of a computer running a proxy server or a chain of proxy servers. Given how skewed the results are from the general consensus, these results should be considered outliers.

The idiocy here is amusing. — Garth

#245 Mark on 09.24.15 at 10:37 pm

” A decent chunk of the TSX exhibits positive leverage to corporate earnings”

Sorry, I meant to say, “a good chunk of the TSX exhibits positive leverage to inflation“. Since 1/2 of the index is typically in O&G, mines, pipelines, etc.

#246 DonDWest on 09.24.15 at 10:41 pm

WHAT?!

https://votecompass.cbc.ca/

How much you agree with the parties:

CPC – 53%
NDP – 47%
LPC – 42%
GPC – 37%

I thought it was mostly due to my economic point of views, but according to the compass, I’m a dead centrist here. It’s mostly social issues that brought me into the conservative camp.

According to this compass, I’m more socially conservative than the conservative party itself. I guess believing immigration should actually be regulated and that displaying dead aborted foetal cells in an art exhibit is shameful makes me a conservative in 2015.

A deadbeat social conservative before the age of 35 – my heart must be as black as coal. What I’m I to do?

#247 in Van on 09.24.15 at 10:44 pm

I find the question “do you hate Stephen Harper” and the response objectionable. I would feel the same if it was “do you hate (Mulcair, Trudeau) etc.” Hate? Really? Giving up a career or business of any kind for politics is a sacrifice for most. Most won’t do it. If people think any of these men do this to hurt Canada or its citizens, and are thus deserving of hatred, they are very paranoid. The personal vitriol thrown around the media discourages good people from running, and should be avoided. I see it at every level, right down to municipal. It is overwrought and unnecessary.

#248 Boombust on 09.24.15 at 10:45 pm

Smoking Man,

You are very tiresome. Boring, too.

#249 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 10:46 pm

#198 DON on 09.24.15 at 9:20 pm
#221 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 10:05 pm
#88 Old and wise, I think on 09.24.15 at 5:40 pm
#95 MF on 09.24.15 at 6:02 pm

Yes, I am a millennial (just barely). Contrary to what you are insinuating, I am:
– Educated (Masters, A+ GPA)
– Working in a senior-level policy position ($93k)
– Debt-free with a pension and ETFs in RRSP and TFSA
– Renting (had a house a sold it – thanks Garth!)
– A voter

I consider myself fiscally conservative and perhaps identify most strongly with Conservative economic policy. But, what the Conservatives do wrong, they do very wrong. I won’t vote for a party that undermines science, social justice, and environmental imperatives. Sometimes we have to take a hit, as individuals, for the greater good… which in this case, necessitates ABC – Anything But Conservative.

See you at the polls old men!

#250 Bob Dog on 09.24.15 at 10:47 pm

Looks like I will be spending the weekend working on my rendition of the Star Spangled Banner, which is actually based on the old British drinking song, To Anacreon In Heaven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MVYl8iy2Ic

#251 gut check on 09.24.15 at 10:47 pm

Is there a listing for who has donated how much to the various campaigns?

They have it in the States – fully and readily available.
Do we?
Or is this another way in which Secrecy is the new Transparency in our “free” fatherland?

#252 gut check on 09.24.15 at 10:49 pm

#221 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 10:05 pm
So funny watching the millennial wine about the CONs

When I was in my early twenties I was hard core NDP. Truth Justice and the Canadian way. As was every one I know. In my early 30s went Liberal, even helped in campaigns.

Then something happened, I got educated. Then made my first million, and subsequently lost it.

I became conservative in my forties. And every one of us who where dippers and later learned how to sell things rather than our time. All went conservative. Pals that ended up with dead end jobs working for govt are still dippers.

So my point being, if you learn to make your oun loot, conservative, if you need to be feed like a hopeless infant, your a dipper.

Fear not little dippers, in time, many of you will learn to fish..

So Boomers go easy on these kids, we all walked in there shoes in our early lives.

_________________________

But your point is moot since we do not currently have a conservative party in Canada.

#253 For those about to flop... on 09.24.15 at 10:49 pm

Political parties are looking more like cults.
I don’t want to join a cult…

#254 Van Isle Renter on 09.24.15 at 10:49 pm

I hope Harper wins. Not that I care one whit about Harper; I don’t. It’s just that the rest of the country might do an Alberta where the NDP has yet to figure out that the vote was not for them, but against the PC’s.

Mulcair or Trudeau might make the mistake of thinking that they actually got elected because someone wants them to run the shop.

Harper’s first act after election should be to announce that he is stepping down. He does not want to be the guy who stays at the blackjack table five minutes too long and loses everything.

#255 Roasted Gonads on 09.24.15 at 10:50 pm

#237 Lead paint on 09.24.15 at 10:26 pm

#221 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 10:05 pm

Wow… you wrote something intelligent… was it really you? Not many typos either.
—————–
It’s his shtick … the alien can spell perfectly fine, the misspellings are too obvious.. an ET finger to the earthly world.

#256 Bottoms_Up on 09.24.15 at 10:51 pm

#222 Lead paint on 09.24.15 at 10:06 pm
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Ontario doctors are saying they are concerned for the quality of healthcare.
I’m not exactly sure what they are upset about, but I do know hiring more doctors would improve access to and quality of care (more time with your doctor). Guess what? I bet our doctors who are so concerned with the quality of healthcare won’t be tabling that as a solution, as it will drag down their wages.

#257 phillipe on 09.24.15 at 10:54 pm

The right, which favors power and capital, has very few arguments, they would be ridiculous like:
-Don’t mess with my privilege, I’m special ! If you are good to me maybe you can get some crumbs. So be quiet and don’t argue with me.

That is why the comment section is not representative of the readers of this blog.

Also, this poll is in English, not many French Canadians want to look at blogs in English…

#258 Chris on 09.24.15 at 10:55 pm

People hate Harper for a reason. He tempers with the democratic process. When Trudeau and Mulcair said he asked his senators to kill a bill that was passed by the democatically elected Parliament, he had nothing to say. How many times had he been found in contempt of parliament. In his dictionary, winning is the only word, does not matter how he gets there and that is scary. So even if he increases the TFSA room to 20k, I still would not vote for him. Without an honest democratic process, Canada will fail and so will the Canadian public and that cannot be compensated by a higher tfsa or other forms of tax handout. Canadian voters need to have principles, something Harper clearly does not have. And we need to vote for substance over form.

#259 Herf on 09.24.15 at 10:56 pm

#213 crowdedelevatorfartz

“You left out your usual rant about “rich foreigners” owning the Gang Ranch in BC.

Dude. You’re slipping.
Time to expropriate that mythical 10 acre farm and git back to the land!
Imagine….Leased Quadrunners, jet skis and tons a beer to ease the pain of those pesky property taxes….
But you can handle it ….. cuz yer a BC Guy
Yee Hawwwww.”

That was hilarious!

#260 Bob Dog on 09.24.15 at 10:57 pm

FYI. Filtering requests based on the TCP/IP address does not work for mobile devices. They can move like ghosts from network to network via wifi and cellular networks can change your IP address from minute to minute.

Lets hope a bunch of republican dicks foiled the poll results.

First attack the blog demographics, then assault the technology. You guys are a riot. — Garth

#261 DON on 09.24.15 at 11:00 pm

#197 DON on 09.24.15 at 9:20 pm

#68 MF on 09.24.15 at 5:11 pm

#51 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 4:52 pm

Please. I’m a millennial too and I want a Harper majority.

Save us from our dumb generation instead.

MF
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Does Sarah work in the PMO? or want to?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My apologies Sarah, I think my PMO comment was meant for MF.

#262 Bottoms_Up on 09.24.15 at 11:01 pm

#201 Victor V on 09.24.15 at 9:25 pm
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And given the exchange rate then vs. now, that’s 50% off original list.

#263 phillipe on 09.24.15 at 11:01 pm

I suppose Garth thinks he knows better than 600 economists that signed this

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-14/seven-noble-laureates-urge-increase-in-u-s-worker-minimum-wage

They said “the weight” of economic research shows higher pay doesn’t lead to fewer jobs.

#264 DON on 09.24.15 at 11:02 pm

#243 Sluggo on 09.24.15 at 10:35 pm

I wouldn’t put it past the PMO to have stuck an intern in front of a computer running a proxy server or a chain of proxy servers. Given how skewed the results are from the general consensus, these results should be considered outliers.

The idiocy here is amusing. — Garth

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Wasn’t there a recent issue with LIKE buying on social media sites?

#265 Rt Hon VPN on 09.24.15 at 11:04 pm

Garth

I hope you are not angling for a cabinet post with the Tories by running this poll…maybe Minister of IT and Communications….although you will have to learn that people can use VPNs to get around the IP blocking used in your poll…
Will you abandon the blog if you go back into the messy world of politics?

Not a chance. — Garth

#266 Mf on 09.24.15 at 11:07 pm

#188 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.24.15 at 8:47 pm

Also gotta ask what your issue with that post is? On a forum where posters regularly talk about chem trails and global conspiracies you say I’m a nut job? Lol

I’ll assume you are talking about the UN? Should we pander to a bunch of third world dictatorships who all hate the U.S. And the west? Not a chance.

Mf

#267 Mf on 09.24.15 at 11:11 pm

#241 Nosty, etc. on 09.24.15 at 10:35 pm

Lol schooled zombie.

But you know the truth eh? You are the one clear thinker who will release us from this prison by enlightening us? From what I see your posts are just the usual anti us and western propaganda.

Where do you get your sources? How did you get them if they were so secret? Do those authors have a bias? Why did they write those articles?

See this whole skeptical about what you read thing works both ways.

Schooled zombie? Get real.

Mf

#268 Leave the TFSA alone on 09.24.15 at 11:20 pm

I am flabbergasted that the Dippers and the Libs had so much ammo to go after the cons with, that they chose to alter a program that a lot of people thought was beneficial ( the TFSA). They could have promoted Harper as a Machiavellian, narcissistic, paranoid dictator with a penchant for power and as the poll shows even the cons think he is. They chose to reduce a program that promotes saving and even a spend thrift like myself has actually started using. I would not be saving and investing in stocks within my TFSA if this program was not instituted, because I like the idea that I can increase my portfolio without paying taxes in the future. Sure, I may not be contributing the full amount but my goal is to achieve this level in two years as my debts decline. The TFSA made me fiscally responsible and I feel good I control my future now. The cons were 100% correct in developing this program because it gives hope to people who don’t have the ability to buy a house. Garth’s blog has made me realize that a 1 asset strategy should not be followed

#269 phillipe on 09.24.15 at 11:21 pm

Tories want to create fear to get votes to hang on to power.

Check out this inconsistency. They want to bomb Syria, meanwhile, they deny refugee status to Mexicans fleeing from the Drug War. 106 000 dead since 2006, and Canada rejects applications from Mexicans running away from persecution, torture and repression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Drug_War

Hypocrites don’t deserve the vote. Plus, the United States and UK are to blame for the mess in Iraq which created ISIS. Let them fix it at their expense and deal with refugees. As usual, Canada wants to kiss American butt. And Harper is first in line.

#270 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 11:29 pm

#266 Mf on 09.24.15 at 11:11 pm
#241 Nosty, etc. on 09.24.15 at 10:35 pm

Lol schooled zombie.

But you know the truth eh? You are the one clear thinker who will release us from this prison by enlightening us? From what I see your posts are just the usual anti us and western propaganda.

Where do you get your sources? How did you get them if they were so secret? Do those authors have a bias? Why did they write those articles?

See this whole skeptical about what you read thing works both ways.

Schooled zombie? Get real.

Mf
…..

911 was a complete inside job… I know who done it.

Nosty gets it, let’s face it, if your not harbouring one big ass lie MoFo you will have no issue with an open debate.

If you are on the protection team, we’ll, you type like you.

Take it from a confessed super human lier.

#271 cramar on 09.24.15 at 11:32 pm

#224 Jean V. on 09.24.15 at 10:08 pm
Harper was destroyed in the French language debate tonight.

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It is interesting how perception is reality for everyone.

The political commentators on the CBC National tonight said that Harper wasn’t too bad and might even pick up a few voters. They basically said that nobody won as usual, but you get to see what everyone stands for.

#272 You're Joking - Right Bob on 09.24.15 at 11:33 pm

#259 Bob Dog
“FYI. Filtering requests based on the TCP/IP address does not work for mobile devices. They can move like ghosts from network to network via wifi and cellular networks can change your IP address from minute to minute.”
…………………………………………
How do you know that it wasn’t the plethora of socialists on this blog, supporting the Dips & Libs, using this technology? They don’t know how?

#273 cramar on 09.24.15 at 11:33 pm

Americans worry more about their finances than anything else. Interesting. Only difference between Americans and Canucks is that they had the housing collapse and we didn’t (yet)!

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/americans-worry-more-about-their-finances-than-anything-else-2015-09-21

“The 2015 “Life + Money Survey” from GoBankingRates.com, released this month, showed that Americans think more about money on a daily basis than about anything else, including their health and fitness or their love lives.

One in five Americans fears living paycheck-to-paycheck for the rest of their life, with almost as many people worried about being in debt forever. Never being able to retire was a common worry for more than one in seven survey respondents.”

#274 souvereigninternational on 09.24.15 at 11:35 pm

@#232 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 10:21 pm

@#209 soveriegn

“I’m sure you did that with 5 kids and a mortgage in T.O. and taking care of elderly disabled parents. If you answered yes – my question – how do the woodchips taste for breakfast before your daily 5 mile walk to work?”
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Wow! Took two Bitter Pills today did we?
____________________________________

Looking for a fight? Sorry for you. No bitterness there just trying to illustrate my point.

#275 MF on 09.24.15 at 11:46 pm

#268 phillipe on 09.24.15 at 11:21 pm

“Hypocrites don’t deserve the vote. Plus, the United States and UK are to blame for the mess in Iraq which created ISIS. Let them fix it at their expense and deal with refugees. As usual, Canada wants to kiss American butt. And Harper is first in line.”

Russia and Iran had nothing to do with the mess over there eh? By the way, is Iran taking any refugees?

I suppose the majority of Americans do not want to import the violence from Mexico, and so the leaders create policy around that.

To me, what Harper is doing makes sense. The US is our neighbour and therefore our largest trading partner. We also benefit from their military might since our military is a lot smaller.

I for one am glad we are close with the US. Doesn’t mean we have to follow everything they do (Chretien not in Iraq as an example), but good relations are important. I think we should support the US.

MF

#276 souvereigninternational on 09.24.15 at 11:49 pm

#266 Mf on 09.24.15 at 11:11 pm

#241 Nosty, etc. on 09.24.15 at 10:35 pm

Lol schooled zombie.

But you know the truth eh? You are the one clear thinker who will release us from this prison by enlightening us? From what I see your posts are just the usual anti us and western propaganda.

Where do you get your sources? How did you get them if they were so secret? Do those authors have a bias? Why did they write those articles?

See this whole skeptical about what you read thing works both ways.

Schooled zombie? Get real.

Mf
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Everybody has a bias. Truth is Truth, but all that is tru lies at the bottom of the bottomless pit. Real skeptics do not reject ideas point blank. They research them. They are open to change their mind with new clear evidence. Look up into the sky and open up your eyes. How about them apples for enlightment. Truth be told, you ain’t no candidate for enlightment. The disease is too far progressed. Saying that, get of Nosties back Zombie. He has provided many good links here for quite some time. By the way what happened to Mark? I enjoyed his point of view.

#277 stage1dave on 09.24.15 at 11:50 pm

Pretty impressive…7K results? This should almost qualify as a public service! And one poll that is probably more trustworthy than most…

(btw, I could have voted twice because I was hangin’ at the MIL’s on wed, but my decent prairie nature prevented me from doing so, even after I got back to town)

However, I got a couple observations. Firstly, I’m actually surprised there’s so many Lefties on here…most of the people I associate with (at my income level) are to the right of Atilla the Hun! Political & business compassion is just not in their lexicon. So, knowing that 55% of the blogdawgs here profess a liking for left-of-center politics should be a worrisome indicator. Also, I’m living in a part of the world where some people still equate medicare with communism.

And secondly; to put this poll in perspective it might be instructive to see what kind of tax bracket most of the blog voters are in? I’m betting the hardline support for leftist (jeezuz, I hate using that word) policies will be considerably higher than 55% in the under 50K crowd.

These aren’t intended as criticisms, btw; just observations. I’m still thinkin’ we’ll be dealing with an NDP majority (or almost-a large minority) govt on Oct 19. Liberal-wise, there’s still enuff lingering resentment around here from the 80’s to prevent many of them (regardless of quality) getting sent to Ottawa.

Irrespective of my own opinions, I await the results with some trepidation.

This post would not be complete without some doom n’ gloom, so here’s a whopper: a list of all the perhaps soon-to-be-bankrupt cities, counties, states, gov’t depts, & companies…I see a Canadian bank made the list!

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/23/waiting-for-collapse-usa-debt-bombs-bursting/

#278 DON on 09.24.15 at 11:53 pm

#208 BS on 09.24.15 at 9:38 pm

More entertaining than the poll is the comments of the lefties trying to discount the results.

If anything the results in this poll will be skewed in favour of the parties the Millennials would like in power (not the Conservatives). We can assume the Millennials would have voted in Garth’s poll since it was so easy. We know the Millennials won’t bother voting in the real election where they actually have to leave their parents basement.
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Holy frack Batman. What?*!!!*?

Millennials visiting this blog? You can tell by the comments that most who visit here are not young. Most millenials, gen y and x are too busy with life to come here on a regular basis. Some are busy with the new experiences of adulthood, raising kids, working on the second or third house to come and read a blog that tells them not to buy a house, or invest in a tfsa when there is no expendable cash (even for those who have one house). LOL. This is in fact the funniest twisted logic I have heard in a long while. Well not that long…I do read the comments on a regular basis.

As soon as I saw the vote…red lights went off and I was not surprised at the outcome. Like others have said, there is a sampling error here.

Much like going to a biker club and asking them if they would rather ride a KIA, then a Harley…….

Ask yourselves one thing and remember the sacrifices your parents, or grandparents, or great grand parents made. Less we forget! For money without liberty is nothing. I vote for democracy and liberty. Not for financial gain, or because I have always voted that way and I will hold my nose and vote the same again. By the way that is the silliest expression…holding your nose and voting for more deception, abuse, loss of liberties.

Just finished a course on research and random sampling with respect to online voting. By the way google works well. SM: Knowledge is great, school I can live without.

Wikipedia
Sampling error:
“In statistics, sampling error is incurred when the statistical characteristics of a population are estimated from a subset, or sample, of that population. Since the sample does not include all members of the population, statistics on the sample, such as means and quantiles, generally differ from parameters on the entire population.”

A financial/housing/investing blog is and let’s all not kid ourselves IS not a place the mass majority of 18-48 yrs old visit on a frequent basis. If it was we would not have so many people jumping into high risk mortgages and buying second and third houses.

Four questions were financial, raises taxes on high income (most of this blog), raise corporate taxes (most of this blog makes money off them directly or indirectly), limit TFSA contributions (geezus – most on this blog have money left over at the end of the month) and then the capper…raise minimum wage, well that would put dents into the other three…

What about C-51, PMO, DUFFY, KPMG, one pony economy (not diversified at all)….others have listed the rest.

Oh yah….Is Trudeau not the same age as Harper when he first became PM. Did Harper ever have a real job. Does he not have a degree in economics, how many deficits, how many blunders.

It does not matter who wins, they cannot fix what is coming, if they can when are they going to start trying.

#279 Isam on 09.25.15 at 12:01 am

More likely someone will make it to the top of Mt Everest wearing flip flops before the Fed raises interest rates this or next year…2018 would be the earliest, and will be after the ‘global reset’….

#280 to_be_frank on 09.25.15 at 12:09 am

If the media sponsored scientific polls (which sample the whole population) ended up substantially different than the actual election results (where only 61% cast ballots), it wouldn’t be the first time. Garth’s poll may hint that there is room to be surprised on election night. Perhaps people who take the time to respond to a blog poll are more motivated to vote than those who respond only to a telephone call?

#281 Patrick on 09.25.15 at 12:12 am

so let me get this straight. In the 2014 Ontario election, Hudak promises a fiscally conservative government and balanced budgets but gets hung out the dry. Wynne promises to be the next Bob Rae after years of bad policies and scandals but gets given a Majority.

Now federally we have the opposite situation. Nobody can stand Harper but at least he will balance the budget, so we’re re-electing him.

At least now we get to watch the politicians squirm and be confused about what voters in this country want.

#282 DON on 09.25.15 at 12:12 am

#229 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 10:18 pm

@#206 awesomepoll
“Conducting a scientific poll should be left to a profesional polling firm. You have been bang-on on financial matters and real estate. I agree with you on all your expertise, but conducting a poll.. naa.”
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Apparently you dont live in BC where the last provincial election had the Liberals running a distant second behind the NDP 4 weeks before the election.
The NDP led in the polls right up to the election day.
They lost.
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Ok…but the Provincial NDP did not promise the LNG trillion dollar windfall, and hundreds of thousands of associated jobs that will never materialize, yet perfectly sane people voted for the provincial liberals who are conservatives, liberal in name only. Christy Clark goes to the conservative conventions.

Harper just promised 1.3 million jobs…where…Alberta. Why were these jobs not created in the past four years. oh yes I forgot it is I who is wet behind the ears.

And speaking of Alberta what did the polls there say…in the last provincial election

One thing I do know is that with age comes oldness, not necessarily wisdom it is an accessory.

#283 MF on 09.25.15 at 12:16 am

#248 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 10:46 pm

Lol you are the same age as me.

Anyhow,

“Yes, I am a millennial (just barely). Contrary to what you are insinuating, I am:
– Educated (Masters, A+ GPA)
– Working in a senior-level policy position ($93k)
– Debt-free with a pension and ETFs in RRSP and TFSA
– Renting (had a house a sold it – thanks Garth!)
– A voter”

All of that is great. I have all of it minus the salary. Do you work in Government?

That is key. Minus the salary, yet I am still able to save for the TFSA. The TFSA is a big part of why I am voting Conservative.

Your statement about having to take a hit for the greater good is pretty noble and something I agree with. I disagree that voting ABC will achieve that goal though. None of them care about the environment. When we have some of our cohort running for PM then we may see some changes on that front. We are still a ways off from that though.

MF

#284 DON on 09.25.15 at 12:16 am

#233 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 10:23 pm

MF you so project. I can tell where you live, your age, your religous affiliations, hell even your eye and hair color.

Unlike me.

Half think I’m insane, the others go with genius.

Some have me as a poor shlep, others think I’m rich.

Some think I’m Jewish, others have me labeled as a white supremacy neo Nazi.

IS he pro Russia or Pro USA.

No one really knows, including me.

Some think I’m Illiterate, others think it’s a fuex

All hallmarks of a great writer.

Waiting for your applause…

But knowing you, I know a dis is on the way

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Pro Russia – no…just pro balance

I was surprised with your neo con reference, trying to hide your true intentions. I think you are intelligent just glad you dropped the Hunter S. T persona.

#285 The Other Chris on 09.25.15 at 12:20 am

The Liberals wasted so much goodwill on the TFSA cancellation, in an attempt to save a small amount of money, and now the Globe is reporting that they’re going whole hog tomorrow on expanding family reunification. The new hospital beds and nursing homes that policy is going to require are going to eat up way more than anything they save on TFSAs.

It’s like they’re just pandering by throwing strategies at the fridge and seeing what sticks.

#286 DON on 09.25.15 at 12:25 am

#248 Sarah on 09.24.15 at 10:46 pm

#198 DON on 09.24.15 at 9:20 pm
#221 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 10:05 pm
#88 Old and wise, I think on 09.24.15 at 5:40 pm
#95 MF on 09.24.15 at 6:02 pm

Yes, I am a millennial (just barely). Contrary to what you are insinuating, I am:
– Educated (Masters, A+ GPA)
– Working in a senior-level policy position ($93k)
– Debt-free with a pension and ETFs in RRSP and TFSA
– Renting (had a house a sold it – thanks Garth!)
– A voter

I consider myself fiscally conservative and perhaps identify most strongly with Conservative economic policy. But, what the Conservatives do wrong, they do very wrong. I won’t vote for a party that undermines science, social justice, and environmental imperatives. Sometimes we have to take a hit, as individuals, for the greater good… which in this case, necessitates ABC – Anything But Conservative.

See you at the polls old men

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Easy there Sarah.. I made a mistake if you read down further I apologized – comment was made for MF – the belligerent one.

By the way the A+ Masters while I applaud you in your efforts does not impress me. Can you implement. I have seen tonnes of people get promoted for kissing ass, for touting grades and many fail to realize that experience is golden. My wife is an A+ accounting student does not mean she knows how to run a financial business.

And please, calling me old…you are making assumptions.

#287 DON on 09.25.15 at 12:35 am

#241 Nosty, etc. on 09.24.15 at 10:35 pm

Nosty, do not waste your time on MF.

He needs time to understand things. Knowledge is not just something you gain at university.

When I was going into sciences at university you needed a bunch of hard prereqs, a few years after I finished they change the rules and no longer did one need the hard sciences courses to get in. I was pissed of for a while but then understood in the end I had more knowledge.

#288 Cyclist on 09.25.15 at 12:39 am

248 sarah – $93K with a masters in a “senior position”?
That is not “senior” anything. Maybe shift super somewhere. Pension is good though.

#289 Will on 09.25.15 at 12:48 am

Doesn’t matter how skewed you think the data is… The poll is a voluntary one and hence has no value (only people with a reason to respond or with an agenda will respond) I trully hope the election results mirror or better this result though.

#290 Bob Dog on 09.25.15 at 12:50 am

Assault the technology? Tech is tech. I’m just pointing out the flaw in your electronic voting system. Someone like me found the fraud in VW software and crushed the German economy. Would you rather canada had rigged Diebold electronic voting booths in the coming elections?

Most conservatives (republicans) are temporarily imbarrased millionaires voting in favour of the 1% because they believe they will soon be part of the 1%.

#291 No Debt on 09.25.15 at 1:02 am

I’m not overly surprised by Garth’s results. Tends to confirm my belief in just how dumb we Canadians really are. We expect the other guy to do the right thing and kick Harper right where it counts, while the rest of us concentrate on our own growing collection of “trophies of wealth”.

#292 DON on 09.25.15 at 1:11 am

#225 Mf on 09.24.15 at 10:09 pm

#198 DON on 09.24.15 at 9:20 pm

Definitely sounded like she had zero worry about her job. Sounded like a public servant to me.

Mf

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Sorry man! I agree with Sarah more…just made a mistake, for which I apologized.

One more thing: why the reference to the public sector, I have a sister who is a nurse in the public sector and believe me works for her money, the old and sick depend on her every day. And every day she sees one pass away. The divide and conquer public sector tactic does not work on me. Sarah could be quite productive in her area, writing policy for the betterment of society. She seems to have the conviction and hopefully can overcome or sidestep all obstacles in her path.

If I did not know any better – I would have thought you are here due to the election. I do read all your comments.

#293 Harper for another term...yay!! on 09.25.15 at 1:22 am

Don’t shoot the messenger …Garth’s poll has proven to be as accurate as the rest in all categories.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/tom-mulcair-fends-off-attacks-from-all-sides-in-french-debate

There’s no hope for the NDP…they will not form the opposition. Mulcair will get bounced from Stornoway and this serial borrower will have to accept a 14th first mortgage as his next bunk out.

I can’t believe the attacks on information some of the NDP and Liberal fanatics…hey guys….this is democracy….the past 4 years of brainwashing by the Hate Harper Campaign has drilled holes in your brains….time to suck it up and move along.

Congratulations Prime Minister Harper. Happy days….are…still here….lower taxes….TFSA intact….Canada’s people being listened to….and not having our ‘soul’ defined by a few editorial fart catchers in the leftist media.

Seriously…this head bagging thing…over 80% of Canadians don’t want women in Canada oppressed by a medieval dictate forced on them by a few radical misogynists….why doesn’t the media and a single Supreme Court judge get about that?

#294 Jordy on 09.25.15 at 1:28 am

Great poll, I think this is a much more accurate poll than the main stream polling companies. I can’t remember the last time I even answered my land line when the call id was someone I didn’t recognize. And I am old and crusty enough to have a land line, probably not many younger familys even bother.
The real engaged demographic that is likely to actually vote is here online discussing this. The professional polsters are talking to random wacko, cat people that are not going to vote anyway, but are happy that someone called to talk to them. meow :-)

#295 DON on 09.25.15 at 1:32 am

#36 say it ain’t so on 09.24.15 at 4:32 pm

personally, i’m hoping for a minority… couldn’t care which idiot wins

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Exactly! the essence of a democracy – working together.

Sounds yukky though! Lobbyist nightmare! And lets face it – would challenge ideology.

#296 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.25.15 at 1:56 am

#265 Mf on 09.24.15 at 11:07 pm
#188 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.24.15 at 8:47 pm

Also gotta ask what your issue with that post is? On a forum where posters regularly talk about chem trails and global conspiracies you say I’m a nut job? Lol
I’ll assume you are talking about the UN? Should we pander to a bunch of third world dictatorships who all hate the U.S. And the west? Not a chance.

Mf
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Garth,
Ban the racist poster.
Yes or no?
Your choice.

#297 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.25.15 at 2:00 am

Seems like Smoking Man has lost his Mojo.
Blogdogs are tired of his same old, same old.

#298 Tom on 09.25.15 at 2:08 am

Of course it is not accurate. Sample is biased. Judging by many of the overly simplistic comments, many of which base a decision solely on a few economic issues instead of looking at all aspects of a party platform,

#299 Smartalox on 09.25.15 at 2:25 am

your pool may have captured the ‘geist’ of the zeit, but as several have pointed out, suffers from a sampling error. Without controlling for ridings, or borders, (or nationality) the population of blog dogs may represent the popular vote, but not likely which party would form the next government.

Now a poll that operated on proportional representation, or one of these voter-ranking systems that the democratic reformers keep pushing, that might be interesting.

#300 Bob Santarossa & Statistical Bias on 09.25.15 at 2:56 am

Garth, I have read every last blog since the beginning.

Your constituency are well healed, or soon to be well healed, Canadians interested in where best to invest their money based on the prevailing economy – and, you give great advice. You also preach conservatism which I agree with.

True, you have the odd anarchist crashing the blog and mercifully you delete them; however, the poll sample size is statistically significant but NOT RANDOM and STATISTICALLY BIASED (i.e., the well healed or soon to be well healed sample, you preach conservatism, and so forth).

It was heartening to see that there are more than just a few financially fiscal right wingers, such as myself, with a social conscience (36% voting to raise the minimum wage).

Thank you Garth for the poll and results – biased or not, it was well worth your effort in my view.

#301 TheAwakenedOne on 09.25.15 at 3:30 am

Now we know that the Cons will most likely lead another term… more debt.

Garth, why don’t you conduct a poll on the F35 ? Canadians will be pickled with debt for the next century if this deal goes through…

#302 Where on the ballot does it say none of the above? on 09.25.15 at 4:42 am

In a surprise move after the French leaders debate all of them agreed on a path forward for the country and released this short video explaining it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5sxLapAts

#303 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.25.15 at 5:21 am

The NDP was supposed to crush the liberals in the last election in Bring Cash…….The Fiberals won.

This poll is totally skewed as most people that come here are public sector workers who like to brag how much money they make at the hands of the taxpayers and thanks to their employer…..the CONservative govt.

So while it was a nice effort……it don’t mean shit.

#304 saskatoon on 09.25.15 at 7:20 am

#270 Bob Santarossa & Statistical Bias

“It was heartening to see that there are more than just a few financially fiscal right wingers, such as myself, with a social conscience (36% voting to raise the minimum wage).”

notice the inverted moral compass here?

this is a typical rationalization.

voting to increase theft via governmental initiation of force becomes “compassionate” and “loving”.

this ethical reversal allows the unhinged bootlicker to stand on a type of moral high ground…(i.e., “have a social conscience”)…but only in his own mind.

in reality, he endorses increased societal violence–as his will is imposed via proxied state force against all those who do not “agree”.

this is the most dangerous of people.

#305 Mf on 09.25.15 at 7:29 am

#291 DON on 09.25.15 at 1:11 am

All good man!

Mf

#306 Ralph Cramdown on 09.25.15 at 7:41 am

“lets hope the voters vote with there brains and not there harts”

Indeed.

#307 fancy_pants on 09.25.15 at 7:47 am

#302 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.25.15 at 5:21 am

you may want to rethink that stance. they will make out the thank you card to whatever gov’t is in power.

But as a rule of thumb, they will NOT be voting for the CONS; it’s the conservative gov’t that is playing hard ball with the public service unions. Lot’s of hurts for public service workers tucked away in bill C-59 (ex. they want to strip sick leave).

I don’t make this up: http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=8048203&File=371#5

#308 Bytor the Snow Dog on 09.25.15 at 7:50 am

Garth you have less tolerance than I ever would have thought. I did nothing to deserve this perma ban without even a warning. Mothing I have posted is any worse than stuff you have already allowed.

I thought you had thicker skin.

I know the poll results made your socialist loins restive, but that’s no excuse for being a bad dog. You’re back. Very short leash. — Garth

#309 Stickler on 09.25.15 at 7:52 am

@ #144 BC Guy on 09.24.15 at 7:33 pm

CEO Checklist For 2015
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1. Outsource manufacturing department to 3rd world
sweatshop – check
2. Outsource IT department to India – check
3. Expand use of unpaid interns – check
4. Layoff core staff and replace with Temporary Foreign Workers – check
5. Cut benefits and pensions to remaining staff
6. Cover-up organizational and environmental screw-ups to avoid fines and lawsuits – check
7. Give self and top executive team large salary increase – check
8. Give self mandatory minimum bonuses despite losing money last three quarters – check
9. Give self retro-active stock options, then sell for a tidy profit – check
10. Check prices on private jets – check
11. Issue press release to media threatening to close up shop and move south of the border if the Canadian government increases tax on stock option on capital gains – check
12. Issue another press release to media threatening to close up shop and move south of the border if all three levels of government don’t give immediate tax concessions and all-out grants for R+D – check
13. Book lunch appointment with local Conservative candidate – check
14. Arrange limousine for 2 o’clock golf appointment – check

Phew! Being a CEO is hard work!

If you Dippers worked as hard at convincing voters with logic as you do trying to denigrate others, you might not be destined for obscurity. Alas… — Garth

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too bad that BC Guy is correct…

#310 charles on 09.25.15 at 8:03 am

Chair Yellen has difficulty at the end of speech last night.
https://youtu.be/xJ2UAYgIXG8
<—- stroke
<—-not a stroke

#311 charles on 09.25.15 at 8:05 am

ABC News opts to report on Dancing With the Stars stroke event instead.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kim-zolciak-hosiptalized-suffering-mini-stroke/story?id=34004934

#312 Mf on 09.25.15 at 8:28 am

#295 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.25.15 at 1:56

Racism???? Where on earth do you see racism in that post??

Offensive bro.

Is the UN not composed of a lot of third world dictatorships with terrible human rights track records or not? Should we be worried about offending those countries?

Mf

#313 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.25.15 at 8:38 am

@#258 Herf.
Glad I could brighten your day.

@#273 Soveriegn
“Looking for a fight? ”

Nope, it was wrong, you took the whole bottle…..

@#28 DON
“One thing I do know is that with age comes oldness, not necessarily wisdom it is an accessory….”
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Awesome. Sage advice from the hockey pool.

You barely scraped by in english in school didnt you Mr “Upper Font” DON.
Rambling, disjointed rebuttals usually confirm the other persons’ arguement.

The focus of my statement was not who won the race but the erroneous poll predictions leading up to that win.
As for Christy Clark, you’re ahead of the game.
She failed english in school ya know

#314 Ferguson State Prosecutor on 09.25.15 at 8:47 am

I don’t understand why your poll sample did not control for race, Garth.

We do that all the time. Makes America great :)

#315 Grey Dog on 09.25.15 at 8:51 am

Garth, can we take a vote on how we WILL vote, the day before the election? One question only: ‘ tomorrow how will YOU vote?’

That was fun.

#316 Adam on 09.25.15 at 8:52 am

Does anyone actually believes an additional $5000 in savings per year is the difference between them and the 1%?

#317 Andrew on 09.25.15 at 8:53 am

Hi Garth – What would happen if the Conservatives win the election but Harper actually loses in his own riding. Does he stay as prime minister or does someone else who was elected replace him?

#11 Steve eluded to the fact the we have to rely on the voters in his riding to kick him out. I am in his riding. I don’t mind the Con’s, but I don’t have any confidence in Harper as a leader after the past few years of watching other economies prosper and our stagnate.

#318 pbrasseur on 09.25.15 at 8:59 am

One point: Likely few voters from Quebec (25% of the population) where the NDP is well ahead and the Cons well behind, however the last poll showed some gains by the Cons.

Had it included Quebec I figure the global results would be more something like 40, 30, 30.

Anyway I stick with my prediction for a Cons minority, although a majority would be welcome, along with 4 more years of max TFSA :-)

I don’t think Canadians have much appetite for a “tax and spend” government this time around, that may outweigh their disdain for Harper.

#319 Llewelyn on 09.25.15 at 9:06 am

Little Dipper

Excellent assessment of what we learned from Garth’s poll. The host of this poll refers to all contributors who do not embrace the selfish accumulation of wealth as dippers and to question their intelligence. Unless he is a masochist he would only make such pejorative comments safe in the knowledge that the majority of his audience agreed with him. While I hold no malice towards those who aspire to become wealthy I remain concerned over their belief that the future will take care of itself.

Unfortunately Canadian politics has become the equivalent of a sports team that trades away all their future draft picks to acquire a very expensive collection of free agents in the hope that they can win a championship this year. Every party has been forced into offering a range of goodies for immediate consumption because the Canadian electorate has come to expect immediate gratification.

climate change – let the future deal with it;

government debt – not our problem;

unemployment – the jobs are there if you look

lack of economic growth – a temporary situation

Foreign ownership – they pay the highest price;

Sale government assets – make hay while the sun shines

income disparity – a high tide will raise all boats

Planning for our future becomes a political liability when the electorate is focussed on the acquisition and preservation of personal wealth. We have sold the majority of our natural resources and many of our successful businesses to foreign interests. We trust that multi-national corporations will protect the interests of Canadians during economic shifts. We welcome hundreds of thousands of new citizens to Canada each year with only passing concern over whether these new citizens will be able to secure affordable accommodation or if they will find employment at a decent wage.

The very fact that protecting our future is not an election priority may have sealed the fate of future generations.

No doubt who will be blamed then.

This, “The host of this poll refers to all contributors who do not embrace the selfish accumulation of wealth as dippers and to question their intelligence,” is untrue, and you know it. “Dipper” is a political term for NDP supporters, and no more pejorative than “Tories” or “Grits.” Never have I questioned the intelligence of anyone here, although many of those who disagree with small-c conservative policies have been rude, condescending, bullyish or, like you, simply lie. Speaks volumes, I guess. — Garth

#320 Sparky on 09.25.15 at 9:09 am

“But the biggest lesson here? Never, ever think the nutjobs in the comments section speak for the many. They’re cute. But they don’t hunt.”

Very cool survey..done with class as well.

Keep it up please, some of us are really learning a lot here.

#321 Astronaft on 09.25.15 at 9:14 am

Why would a person like Smoking Man who makes “loot” easy on for ex care much about TFSA limit? What difference do extra couple of hundred dollars do in your already successful life?
Most of blog dogs are already above avarge income, yet they still dream about getting tax free interests from TFSA and claiming “poor” on return and collecting OAS. Sounds selfish and shortsighted… How would Canadian society look like in this case: lay persons working to pay richman’s OAS etc.

And a use of word “hate” in a poll is wrong. I dislike policies of the man, but hate is a detrimental feeling to have towards anyone.

#322 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 9:19 am

#81: “…many people do not understand usage of TFSA as a investment vehicle…”

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All they need to do is ‘google’ for info. Anyway, Trudeau and Mulcairs’ downfall was when they declared they’d roll back the TFSA limit. Taking away a benefit already bestowed isn’t the way to garner votes. Real dumb. And leads us to question their competency.

#323 tkid on 09.25.15 at 9:23 am

This was a really well-done poll, Garth. Kudos to you and your team!

And I love the photo of the hunter and the zucchinis!

#324 Leo Trollstoy on 09.25.15 at 9:24 am

#320 Astronaft on 09.25.15 at 9:14 am
Why would a person like Smoking Man who makes “loot” easy on for ex care much about TFSA limit? What difference do extra couple of hundred dollars do in your already successful life?

Because wealthy individuals always pay attention and take advantage of financial opportunity.

That’s how they got wealthy in the first place.

The behaviour doesn’t shut off once you hit a ‘number’.
The behaviour is the reason you hit the ‘number’.

#325 Leo Trollstoy on 09.25.15 at 9:26 am

#235 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.24.15 at 10:26 pm

What would be more interesting is if ‘jean V’ can come to any other conclusion anyway.

Likely ‘no’.

#326 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 9:29 am

#90: “Also, this blog was much better before the election…”

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This election affects every aspect of our lives, especially our finances.

#327 Leo Trollstoy on 09.25.15 at 9:32 am

Never have I questioned the intelligence of anyone here, although many of those who disagree with small-c conservative policies have been rude, condescending, bullyish or, like you, simply lie. Speaks volumes, I guess. — Garth

I’ve noticed this as well. NDP and Lib supporters tend to be rude. Insecurity complex perhaps?

#328 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 9:36 am

#91: “The Cons banned me for life. Remember?”

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Isn’t that discriminatory? Altho’ Harper probably wants to rule the roost forever…or until we no longer recognise our wonderful country.

#329 long time lurker here on 09.25.15 at 9:41 am

Same here, couldn’t vote. I actually convinced all of my buddies at work to vote, but it kept saying we voted already, even though we didn’t.

#330 Grantmi on 09.25.15 at 9:42 am

#309 charles on 09.25.15 at 8:03 am

Chair Yellen has difficulty at the end of speech last night.

<—- stroke
<—-not a stroke

not funny…..

#331 fancy_pants on 09.25.15 at 9:49 am

#321 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 9:19 am
Taking away a benefit already bestowed isn’t the way to garner votes.

Although it worked for the fiberals when they first entered stage left in Ontario way back. A large part of their platform was stripping a small tax credit that could be claimed against private education. When the godless fiberals got in, they retroactively stripped away that credit. A financial hit to many who budgeted for that small credit.

Ironically, all it did was push more kids from private to the publicly funded education system which in the end resulted in a greater cost to the public purse.

#332 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 9:49 am

#128: “The one who blew it is the Liberal party for putting Jr. Trudeau as leader. The Liberals went from a guy who can’t communicate (Dion), to a guy who is so arrogant he is unlikable (Ignatieff), to a guy who is just plain dumb (Trudeau).”

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This has been my thinking for years. The party is letting us down with their foolish choices. They actually thought a ‘Trudeau’ was the best option?

#333 Smoking Man on 09.25.15 at 9:50 am

#320 Astronaft on 09.25.15 at 9:14 am
Why would a person like Smoking Man who makes “loot” easy on for ex care much about TFSA limit? What difference do extra couple of hundred dollars do in your already successful life?
Most of blog dogs are already above avarge income, yet they still dream about getting tax free interests from TFSA and claiming “poor” on return and collecting OAS. Sounds selfish and shortsighted… How would Canadian society look like in this case: lay persons working to pay richman’s OAS etc.

And a use of word “hate” in a poll is wrong. I dislike policies of the man, but hate is a detrimental feeling to have towards anyone.
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I don’t hate anyone, I just play with words depending on my mood and how much and what Ive been drinking at the time.

As far as TSFA’s your spot on, don’t need em. But I have three kids that do, and are maxed. and yes. I helped them max it.

#334 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 9:55 am

#130: “….to give us this amazing blog F R E E.”

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And, ad-free. Just goes to the show the high calibre of the man. Who regularly gets abused by some. Like mom used to say: “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”

#335 Nora Lenderby on 09.25.15 at 9:56 am

It’s going to to be a harvest of stones whoever wins the election.

“Now, stop complaining and get back to work, everyone.”

#336 Nora Lenderby on 09.25.15 at 9:58 am

#292 Harper for another term…yay!! on 09.25.15 at 1:22 am
…Seriously…this head bagging thing…over 80% of Canadians don’t want women in Canada oppressed by a medieval dictate forced on them by a few radical misogynists….why doesn’t the media and a single Supreme Court judge get about that?

“Radical misogynists?” Blimey. I think this is more about liberty and majority groups telling other people what they can and cannot do in public.

We all have prejudices. We are all inherently sexist, racist and other ugly things.

Being human means struggling to overcome those impulses. In my opinion, of course :-)

#337 Nora Lenderby on 09.25.15 at 10:06 am

#370 Nagraj on 09.24.15 at 3:19 pm
CBC HEADLINE
Canadians are nice people.

No better than they should be :-)

[Any Greater Fool blogdogs who are now or ever were Piers Gaveston members, please come forward now. NORA?]

Nope, I’m not enough of a toff, luv. Sorry to disappoint you. I’ve never smoked dope in a city of dreaming spires, unless you count dockyard cranes.

I did find this wee snippet on a blog, though. It connects the pig-sticking incident with real estate, if you can believe it. Some people will do anything for a click.

Piggate – the Behavioural Economics.

#338 reader on 09.25.15 at 10:08 am

I did some tests… Your RSS feed page does not show the last two articles for Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox or my RSS Reader. However they are visible from Opera browser. Talk to your IT guys… something is not working as expected with your RSS feed.

#339 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 10:09 am

#165: “Just think if this poll holds true to election, Harper and the Conservatives are left holding their bag of an economy riding the razors edge.”

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Yes! If Harper win, he’ll have no choice but to to deal with the economic mess he’s created! I call that poetic justice. ;-)

#340 Sean on 09.25.15 at 10:10 am

I don’t understand your poll clearly shows that the people who don’t hate Harper are the same people that would vote for him. The MAJORITY of people ARE NOT voting conservative and HATE Harper.

Isn’t this the problem with our messed up voting system?

#341 will on 09.25.15 at 10:10 am

As someone who mostly agrees with your political philosophy as well as your dislike of Harper, I feel your pain Garth, but I’m voting Liberal.

(I didn’t vote in your poll because my work IP “already voted” and I forgot to vote later when I got home)

Sometimes you just have to throw the bums out. At least the liberals have a decent slate of candidates for cabinet posts who won’t be terrible and complete unknowns.

My dream scenario:
Liberal minority
NDP official opposition
Conservative 3rd

NDP acts like spoiled brats, refuse to work with liberals. Conservatives forced to cooperate as balance of power for a couple years while they get their act together.

result: Liberals govern center with a slight right tilt, NDP gets punished for being stubborn idiots and the next election we get a clean Liberal – Conservative race.

What would be so bad about that?

#342 Nora Lenderby on 09.25.15 at 10:16 am

#326 Leo Trollstoy on 09.25.15 at 9:32 am
NDP and Lib supporters tend to be rude. Insecurity complex perhaps?

Probably not. Perhaps it’s just the way they read the things you say.

#343 Bytor the Snow Dog on 09.25.15 at 10:18 am

I have no idea how I got labelled a “socialist” as I distinctly remember saying I have voted for all three major parties in the past.

Garth in your response to Llewelyn you brought up the notion of “small c conservatives”. Where are they? If they existed I would vote for them.

I find it hard to hide my disdain for the Harper Govt™ as they have taken a party I once voted for and have turned it into an ideological fringe party run by a demogogue. They certainly are NOT small c conservatives.

#344 Tony on 09.25.15 at 10:20 am

The polls were all wrong before Obama got elected. Either the NDP will win a majority or minority. Wait for the bucket sludge to vote the conservatives will be right there with the green party.

#345 Broke Dick on 09.25.15 at 10:25 am

#169 Blacksheep on 09.24.15 at 8:11 pm
No means, not, know means.
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No means know.

#346 pr on 09.25.15 at 10:25 am

Every one (who owne real estate) is getting rich since the harper crew is in service. So why change a winning formula? (smile)

#347 Spaccone on 09.25.15 at 10:27 am

In unrelated news, seeing this on my Twitter feed:

– Can you guess what Canadian Bank has major cuts coming Monday Morning that will see job losses in the thousands?

– Just another sign how messed up economy in #Canada is as one major bank embraces for severe cuts coming Mon insiders at TSX tell us!

– Brace yourself – insiders on the #Toronto Stock Exchange tell us major cuts coming to 1 of Canada top 6 banks.

– U heard it here first! 1 of Canada’s Major Banks has big announcement but will announce it this Mon in fear of #Toronto stock market drop!

#348 Tony on 09.25.15 at 10:29 am

Re: #293 Jordy on 09.25.15 at 1:28 am

Many people who vote couldn’t spell their own name but they can make an x in a box. Those are all the ones not on this blog who all vote NDP.

#349 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 10:34 am

#267: “….the cons were 100% correct in developing this program….”

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GARTH developed the plan. The ‘cons’ merely took the credit.

#350 Alberta Ed on 09.25.15 at 10:34 am

Last night’s French ‘debate’ was even more of a Mad Hatter’s Tea Party than the last one, Harpo ducking cups and saucers and sugar cubes flung from all sides, the occasional shards of shrapnel hitting the other candidates. Made about as much sense, too; there must have been something besides tea in the pot…

#351 Bottoms_Up on 09.25.15 at 10:48 am

#315 Adam on 09.25.15 at 8:52 am
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Yes.
Picture two families. Family one, struggles to stay afloat, any excess ‘cash’ goes straight to debt payment.

Family two, wife is the CEO of hydro one. Husband is a stay at home dad. She tops off her TFSA ($10,000) PLUS her husbands ($10,000), and she does this over a decade ($200,000 plus growth/capital gains).

Family one ends the decade where they started. Family two has at a minimum spending money of $500,000, where all the growth and capital gains is protected from tax.

#352 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 10:52 am

#316: “Hi Garth – What would happen if the Conservatives win the election but Harper actually loses in his own riding. Does he stay as prime minister or does someone else who was elected replace him?”

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This actually happened in BC. Premier Christy Clark lost in her original riding. She simply bought real estate in the Okanagan — changed her riding. And won.

#353 DON on 09.25.15 at 11:11 am

#312 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.25.15 at 8:38 am

@#258 Herf.
Glad I could brighten your day.

@#273 Soveriegn
“Looking for a fight? ”

Nope, it was wrong, you took the whole bottle…..

@#28 DON
“One thing I do know is that with age comes oldness, not necessarily wisdom it is an accessory….”
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Awesome. Sage advice from the hockey pool.

You barely scraped by in english in school didnt you Mr “Upper Font” DON.
Rambling, disjointed rebuttals usually confirm the other persons’ arguement.

The focus of my statement was not who won the race but the erroneous poll predictions leading up to that win.
As for Christy Clark, you’re ahead of the game.
She failed english in school ya know
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Sorry English Teacher, attack the grammar – is that all you have? I will not spell check or grammar check for this blog or even form a proper “arguement” with those who have their heads constantly stuck in the sand and expescially not fore youu, cause it aint worth the timee. Attack the call name should be D.O.N is that better engiish teacher… but eh Crowdedelevator…is soo much better ya kno!.

Geezus!

#354 Smoking Man on 09.25.15 at 11:14 am

Now even the Pope is a climate change pusher.

Millennials
It’s amazing how a young fresh brain can be moulded by an unsuspecting teacher that serves an devilish agenda.

You’re all broke, that should be your one and only issue. Demand greater pay.

But they did a number on you. Save the planet at all costs, when in fact the planet can handle the human race without breaking a sweat.

#355 Llewelyn on 09.25.15 at 11:23 am

Really!! Referring to people as Dippers is equivalent to using the term Tories or Grits.

Use of the term dipper has many different meanings to a wide range of ethnic and economic communities and the majority of uses are not flattering and are definitely pejorative. Look it up if you don’t believe me!

I suppose a constant reference to supporters of the Democratic Party in the USA as donkeys, to reflect their mascot, would have no negative connotations.

I am not sure what nut-bar means in your world but many people, including me, do not view it as a complement.

Repeated use of the term sheeple to describe those who make choices you do not agree is only funny to people who have made different choices.

In the six months I have followed this blog you have ridiculed the electorate in Alberta for voting supporting the NDP. I won’t bother with examples but you definitely left no doubt that you question their intelligence and that they will be sorry for their mistake.

You wield the sword of sarcasm very well but tend to be a little thin skinned at times.

Calling me a lier, won’t set my pants on fire and does not hurt my feelings.

I sincerely apologise if my observations have upset yours.

Bygones!!!

#356 Bob Loblaw on 09.25.15 at 11:33 am

Libs would get my vote if they backed off on TFSA.

#357 Russ on 09.25.15 at 11:35 am

#353 Smoking Man on 09.25.15 at 11:14 am
Now even the Pope is a climate change pusher.
Millennials
It’s amazing how a young fresh brain can be moulded by an unsuspecting teacher that serves an devilish agenda.
You’re all broke, that should be your one and only issue. Demand greater pay.

But they did a number on you. Save the planet at all costs, when in fact the planet can handle the human race without breaking a sweat.
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Hey Smokie,

Maybe they’re just moist robots.

Something their great creator (Steve Jobs) knew about a long time ago.

I used to remark to the Apple crowd, “Yup. A computer so easy to use, even a teacher can handle it.”

It’s here in Chapter 3:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/129784168866/the-persuasion-reading-list

#358 critical thinker on 09.25.15 at 11:44 am

@Llewelyn.

You have been brainwashed, most of your opinions have been manufactured by others and delivered to you.

#359 Dup on 09.25.15 at 11:56 am

The GOV knows that even with the max TFSA allowed; the majority of people that have money in it, still have them in a savings type of investment with mediocre returns. Stupid remain stupid no matter what the situation is… So no harm at all about GOV loosing on investment tax or income. Only the few smart know what to do with their money (most of the time). Well who has ears should listen, we can’t educate all…as they should lower their egos and educate themselves.

#360 bdysktn on 09.25.15 at 12:01 pm

cpd comments still banned today?

52wk low. again.

#361 saskatoon on 09.25.15 at 12:05 pm

#354 Llewelyn

notice the crazy coming out here?

often this “brainwashing” as #357 calls it rests with some deep, unseen psychological trauma.

if one starts peeling back the layers of anti-logic, the underlying trauma presents itself.

overwhelming to the ego, the unhinged bootlicker’s mind lashes out with irrationality and anger in an attempt to hide from reality.

the crazy either confronts the underlying psychological issue, delegates responsibility, and adjusts perspective accordingly…

or the irrationality moves on to another topic…another place…another set of victims.

these are the most dangerous people.

#362 bdysktn on 09.25.15 at 12:07 pm

but there is no land shortage says mark and others…
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The value of land transactions targeted for high-density residential development soared in the first half of 2015 as Lower Mainland municipalities continued encouraging more-concentrated urban neighbourhoods.

Scott Curtis, manager of market intelligence for Colliers International, explained the intense activity reflects a desire by municipalities and developers in Metro Vancouver to “focus on highest and best use” — in other words, greater housing density in response to population growth, demand for affordable housing, and a limited housing stock.

According to Colliers’ recently released Metro Vancouver LandShare report, land sales worth $845 million were recorded in the first six months of this year — that is up 63 per cent from $519 million during the same period a year ago.

The number of transactions was the same in both years, but ever-higher land prices and intense competition propelled the valuation jump.

Multi-family development and land assemblies have become the new normal, particularly along arterial roads and near transit nodes.

Almost no one is building single-family homes — except, of course, on individual lots to replace older, demolished structures.

“With land values continuing to climb alongside construction costs, the cost to build a single-family home is quite high and (it is difficult to find economies of) scale,” says Curtis.

Which explains why a finite supply of detached homes in the region has grown so pricey, attracting bidding wars for the properties that do go on the block.

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/barbara+yaffe+land+values+continue+soar+lower+mainland+densifies/11388332/story.html#ixzz3mlcdw7Jx

#363 Mark on 09.25.15 at 12:32 pm

“Every one (who owne real estate) is getting rich since the harper crew is in service. So why change a winning formula? (smile)”

The gains in RE have largely come at the expense of gains in the stock market, and as we’ve been seeing for the past 2-3 years, the RE marketplace is now so oversupplied with product on account of such high prices that prices are falling.

The rather unfortunate thing for the Tories, just like happened to Mulroney, is that the stock market is probably primed to take off in the not-so-distant future. On account of simply having been out of favour for so long. Chretien/Martin took credit for the TSE roughly tripling from 1993-2000 for example. The NDP’s usual sort of disastrous economic policies, if they end up winning, may end up being ‘validated’, at least in the medium term, by the same.

#364 paul on 09.25.15 at 12:32 pm

#327 Daisy Mae on 09.25.15 at 9:36 am

#91: “The Cons banned me for life. Remember?”

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Isn’t that discriminatory? Altho’ Harper probably wants to rule the roost forever…or until we no longer recognise our wonderful country
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Talk about ruling for ever Trudeau Senior kept rising from the dead you had to practically drive a stake through his heart to be rid of him.

#365 paul on 09.25.15 at 12:34 pm

#355 Bob Loblaw on 09.25.15 at 11:33 am

Libs would get my vote if they backed off on TFSA
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If they did they would figure some other way to get your
pound sorry Kilo of flesh!!

#366 bad questions votecompass on 09.25.15 at 12:36 pm

I took the votecompass survey
http://www.votecompass.com/

and it puts me in the camp of NDP.
it is poor questions.

Imagine a question about:
– Do you like pizza?
YES… okay, you must be NDP then.

– Do you like pizza, I know a gourmet place that sell it for $5/slice
NO, I’m not willing to pay that much for it… so I’m voting Conservative.

– And all my life, I’ve been Liberal because they were somewhere in the middle. Except this year. Trudeau, you dropped the ball!

#367 BS on 09.25.15 at 12:41 pm

The host of this poll refers to all contributors who do not embrace the selfish accumulation of wealth as dippers and to question their intelligence.

Accumulation of wealth is selfish? In most cases over 50% of that wealth goes to taxes already? Keeping whats left is selfish? Only a true communist could make such a statement.

Just because you flunked out in life and now have nothing in retirement does not make successful people selfish.

#368 #noheadsackingincanada on 09.25.15 at 12:44 pm

#335 Nora

““Radical misogynists?” Blimey. I think this is more about liberty and majority groups telling other people what they can and cannot do in public.”

Nope…that’s the liberal and misogynists spin. Head sacking is all about hate…we don’t allow that here. Head sacking one day…stoning the gays the next…no thanks…..the middle east is going to have to smarten up….nut up to us to dumb down in the name of political correctness. Look at the middle east and tell us about ‘majority force on womens rights’. Canada might not be perfect…but it’s sure light years ahead of that misogynist hot bed of medieval fanatics who use women as the underside of a boot.

#369 Holy Crap Wheres The Tylenol on 09.25.15 at 12:55 pm

Still voting with my wallet and so far the current captain and his band of shipmates has sailed me through some choppy waters without sinking the ship. My company has struggled here in Ontario over the last ten years because of the provincial government! Not the federal. So if the Wynnebags were in power federally I would seriously consider the last offer from The State of North Carolina for a tax free zone for ten years to move my company there, plus low cost electricity, wages. This would most likely lead to job losses here in the Oakville area of around 80 employees plus many of my subcontractors. It would be my last move as I really like it here but when it comes down to it, the political parties are all assholes when it come to the business of business. They don’t understand how it works nor have they the foresight to where taxation and high cost lead. Sail on Captain!

How do you think your employees will vote? — Garth

#370 IHCTD9 on 09.25.15 at 12:57 pm

#340 will on 09.25.15 at 10:10 am

…result: Liberals govern center with a slight right tilt, …
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This would be historically correct, but not this time. There is no question in my mind that Trudeau is solidly left of Mulcair. TM has been backing off some of his more extreme left policy promises, while Trudeau’s “infrastructure” spending has been revealed to be 30% social, and he “promises” to run a 10 Billion dollar deficit.

These are not yesterdays liberals, Wynne loves the guy and look what she and McGuinty have done to Ontario. The soft, inexperienced Trudeau will be putty in the hands of more experienced politicians, expect the worst.

#371 Fed-up on 09.25.15 at 12:59 pm

Janet Yellen

It will likely be appropriate to raise the target range of the federal-funds rate sometime later this year.

Anyone else a little more than tired of her ambiguous rhetoric?

#372 GTAHouseHunter on 09.25.15 at 1:01 pm

What happens next…..
Now that the dust seems to settle and we firmly believe that Harper would get a 3rd term.What happens to residential real estate.Can it still continue an interminable climb up ? Can policies created by Harper prolong this upward march of real estate prices till his entire term.We seem to defy all economic norms and phrases like hot summer real estate season ,hot fall real estate season seem to be the new Canadian lexicons.

I won’t be surprised if the realtors would now be competing with the retailers to make the hot holiday season real estate sales.THE HOT HOLIDAY SEASON RE SEASON.

#373 Holy Crap Wheres The Tylenol on 09.25.15 at 1:08 pm

#367 #noheadsackingincanada on 09.25.15 at 12:44 pm

#335 Nora

““Radical misogynists?” Blimey. I think this is more about liberty and majority groups telling other people what they can and cannot do in public.”

Nope…that’s the liberal and misogynists spin. Head sacking is all about hate…we don’t allow that here. Head sacking one day…stoning the gays the next…no thanks…..the middle east is going to have to smarten up….nut up to us to dumb down in the name of political correctness. Look at the middle east and tell us about ‘majority force on womens rights’. Canada might not be perfect…but it’s sure light years ahead of that misogynist hot bed of medieval fanatics who use women as the underside of a boot.
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Ive been to the middle east for business with my wife. She is a hot blooded feisty girl from Ireland. It was an eye opener to say the least.They still have places where she could not go without a male escort, my permission, head covering, heavy clothes covering her entire body. They do have have woman’s rights, nor do they want them there. They actually despise that fact that a woman in the west can go to school, marry or not marry, have children or not again based on her own free will, drive a car, own a car, own a house, have a job, they want control over all women. It is a idiom that unfortunately has been carried over here from the middle east. So ask this question. If a woman needs a Hijab or Burka then why don’t the men need one as well? Equal rights and gender neutral correct, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

#374 Parsonage on 09.25.15 at 1:20 pm

#96 Sol Orwell on 09.24.15 at 6:02 pm

Well – most polls show the three parties all with roughly 1/3rd of the total vote.

So uhh – doesn’t that show 66% of people don’t want Harper to run the country?
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And 66% don’t want Trudeau …
And 66% don’t want Mulcair …

#375 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.25.15 at 1:23 pm

#306 fancy_pants on 09.25.15 at 7:47 am
#302 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.25.15 at 5:21 am

you may want to rethink that stance. they will make out the thank you card to whatever gov’t is in power.

But as a rule of thumb, they will NOT be voting for the CONS; it’s the conservative gov’t that is playing hard ball with the public service unions. Lot’s of hurts for public service workers tucked away in bill C-59 (ex. they want to strip sick leave).

I don’t make this up: http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=8048203&File=371#5
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That is a very solid point. I know public sector workers and they say that as well. However….there is an old saying….Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

I think that a new govt would cut even more as they would be more transparent than "Dictator Harper". Harper has a pretty solid force field around him. In order to Harper to do what he does….he must have big govt. This will change when he is outed.

#376 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.25.15 at 1:25 pm

#370 Fed-up on 09.25.15 at 12:59 pm
Janet Yellen

It will likely be appropriate to raise the target range of the federal-funds rate sometime later this year.

Anyone else a little more than tired of her ambiguous rhetoric?
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Like the sign says "FREE Beer Tomorrow".

#377 Nemesis on 09.25.15 at 1:29 pm

#It’sBetterInBC… #Really…

[CBC] – Snoop Dogg concert, free pot offered as voting incentives

…”A Vancouver marijuana dispensary is offering some unusual perks in an effort to get voters to cast a ballot for the Oct. 19 federal election — a chance to see American rapper Snoop Dogg perform, and a shot at winning more some free pot.”…

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/snoop-dogg-concert-pot-federal-election-1.3243172

#BonusHerbalInterlude…

https://youtu.be/Xv9aieNT6x0

#378 Pierre on 09.25.15 at 1:47 pm

All that the poll results indicates is the make-up of your blog audience.

#379 Bytor the Snow Dog on 09.25.15 at 2:09 pm

Garth, you ban ME yet let saskatoon post his drivel here? WTF?

IHTCD9- That’s why I’m voting NPD this time. They’re closing to the centre than the Libs are.

Where is my centre-right party?

#380 Bytor the Snow Dog on 09.25.15 at 2:09 pm

I’m voting NDP even…

#381 IHCTD9 on 09.25.15 at 2:11 pm

#142 Smoking Man on 09.24.15 at 7:32 pm
Hey commies and tree huggers.

I give you a national anthem.

God save our gracious Tree
Long live our noble Tree
God save the Tree
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Tree
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Hmm, “Come Thou Almighty King” (re-mastered)?

#382 Ponzius Pilatus on 09.25.15 at 2:15 pm

#370 Fed-up on 09.25.15 at 12:59 pm
Janet Yellen

It will likely be appropriate to raise the target range of the federal-funds rate sometime later this year.

Anyone else a little more than tired of her ambiguous rhetoric?
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Count me in.
Just like SM and his book.
Either put up or ride silently into the sunset.

#383 Vundo on 09.25.15 at 2:32 pm

The people who think that this poll tilts in favour of the Conservatives are weird. If this blog’s readers really do skew towards Conservative demographics then Harper has a problem. I would have expected support in the 80% range if the readership is actually full of rich guys looking for tax cuts and not caring about anything else; the most basic of the Conservative base. But it isn’t. 55% of us read this blog and still would be OK with the Trudeau-Mulcair government. Imagine what the numbers are like on left leaning social justice blogs. If Harper only has 45% of a friendly audience in his camp, he has a problem.

#384 family beagle on 09.25.15 at 2:50 pm

Serendipitous. So my wife got home and saw big liberal sign in the corner of the the yard and went into the house for her smooth bore and a few loads of birdshot. I stopped her, laughing, and explained it was okay, that it was approved, a buddy asked. She doesn’t like political displays of affection, but she acquiesed for now. I rarely see her that riled and it was kinda hot. I did order a sign from the ndp, and received a confirmation email with a “will you commit to Mulcair” button. I don’t know.
I left a bucket in the driveway with a note to place sign here. Near the liberal sign. Hopefully they show up before she gets home.

#385 jess on 09.25.15 at 3:05 pm

polls/surveys out data mining in?

http://poq.oxfordjournals.org/content/70/5/646

=

deez nuts

15-year-old Brady Olson, a high school student from Wallingford, Iowa. 15-year-old from Iowa.

-no public profile, never appear in any televised debates; he has never held public office.

Wednesday was a big day for Deez Nuts. First he won 9% of the vote as an independent in a Public Policy Polling poll of voters in North Carolina – which, on top of recent results of 8% in Minnesota and 7% in Iowa from previous polls, makes him what experts confirmed is the most successful independent candidate for president in two decades.

It was also the day of his high school sophomore orientation.

…“I am a 15-year-old who filled out a form, had the campaign catch on fire, and am now putting up the best third-party numbers since Ross Perot.”

#386 michael on 09.25.15 at 3:26 pm

Garth,
Interesting but no more valid than any other poll and probably less so due to “Self-Selection bias”.

“In statistics, self-selection bias arises in any situation in which individuals select themselves into a group, causing a biased sample with nonprobability sampling”

Your “Blog Dog” commenters are a self-selected group so I am not buying the results. On Oct 20th I expect we will see a minority of CPC seats in the house, Harper will quit and (hopefully) the GG will do the right thing and let Mulcair/Trudeau try for a governing majority of MP’s.

The fact you do not like the results does not automatically invalidate them. — Garth

#387 Mike S. on 09.25.15 at 3:29 pm

#320 Astronaft on 09.25.15 at 9:14 am

Why would a person like Smoking Man who makes “loot” easy on for ex care much about TFSA limit? What difference do extra couple of hundred dollars do in your already successful life?
Most of blog dogs are already above avarge income, yet they still dream about getting tax free interests from TFSA and claiming “poor” on return and collecting OAS. Sounds selfish and shortsighted… How would Canadian society look like in this case: lay persons working to pay richman’s OAS etc.
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Cuz he really needs the money – why do you think he goes to the local casino once a month?

#388 pinstripe on 09.25.15 at 3:37 pm

at the coffee shop this morning, the discussion was focused on social benefits available to Canadians.

the local farmers, ranchers and small business are keen on what harpo is doing by cutting some of the benefits held by the fed civil servants. OTOH, these same farmers, ranchers and small business DO NOT want anyone touching their subsidies.

In alberta, Rachel is applying the same tricks used by the PC’s, by giving public sevice staff a 7% raise.

Too bad that ALL politicians are LIARS.

#389 MSM-Free Zone on 09.25.15 at 3:45 pm

#360 saskatoon on 09.25.15 at 12:05 pm
“…..notice the crazy coming out here?…….”
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Absolutely.

#390 Rook on 09.25.15 at 3:50 pm

“And more than half (56%) profess they hate the man many of them are ready to re-elect.”

45.5% intend to vote conservative
44.35% don’t hate Harper

There’s only about 1% who hate Harper and would still vote conservative, not exactly a big shocker.

The majority of voters don’t like Harper and the majority intends to vote for another party. If this was a two-party system like the states, the left would win. I’m not saying that system is better, but when the majority of people don’t like their leader it’s not exactly ideal.

And as for the validity of this poll, of course it’s not a random representation of the population so it has no merit to predict the election result. Garth you know very well from previous polls that the average income of your readership is well above that of the average Canadian. Your ommission of this info and your attempt to make us believe otherwise is misleading.

#391 Mf on 09.25.15 at 4:41 pm

#382 Vundo on 09.25.15 at 2:32 pm

I disagree. This is primarily a real estate blog. Lots of folks visit it who blame Harper for the real estate bubble. I actually was surprised by the results tbh.

I too blame Harper for the real estate bubble but there are other overarching issues that are more important to me.

Mf

#392 eh on 09.25.15 at 5:03 pm

#390 What real estate bubble? The higher the house prices are, the better the fellow Canadians feel about themselves. We could go to the bank to ask for more for popcorn money. We still hate Mr Harper but we love our popcorns.

#393 #noheadsackingincanada on 09.25.15 at 5:11 pm

#372 Holy Crap WTT

“Ive been to the middle east for business with my wife. She is a hot blooded feisty girl from Ireland. It was an eye opener to say the least.”

It’s hard to believe that our media fart catchers and university professor ‘elites’ stand up for the level of hatred aimed directly at women in the middle east and other like minded nations.

In the name of Hating Harper the liberal left have completely tied themselves in knots over how to embarrass the Conservatives with the so called ‘freedom’ to engage in head sacking…while they wouldn’t put up with that for a minute if they were forced to live as you’ve frankly and factually described.

Women in those countries are enslaved and fearful….why do our media pundits and intellectual elites support that? The Head Sack is not a choice….women are beaten violently and even killed for not wearing it. A husband can be killed for not beating his wife to death if she does not conform. The Head Sack is not a choice…it is an imposition that should never be allowed to fester in Canada.

I often approach Muslim women , families and groups who are sacked and bound and tell them that they do not have to fear any more…and in front of their husbands I explain that if they are beaten for living like a free Canadian they can call the RCMP and expect to have the husband arrested and imprisoned.

The look of shocking reality is a joy…more should try it….because they hear from the media that head sacks are OK…when they’re not…and many immigrant women don’t realize they can escape from that medieval horror and we will help them do it.

#394 jimmy on 09.25.15 at 5:29 pm

lets get comments to 400 before today’s new post!

#395 Doug in London on 09.25.15 at 5:34 pm

@pinstripe, post #387:
It just goes to show you how just about everyone has a double standard. Yes, governments should absolutely cut expenditures as long as it doesn’t negatively affect me in any way. You can’t blame the politicians for that way of thinking.

#396 Renter's Revenge! on 09.25.15 at 5:46 pm

#394 jimmy “lets get comments to 400 before today’s new post!”

396th?

#397 Dwight on 09.25.15 at 5:59 pm

Your poll is obviously seriously skewed and flawed Garth. A Conservative majority? Extremely unlikely. At least we better hope so.

Why is it ‘my’ poll? I only got one vote. — Garth

#398 maxx on 09.25.15 at 6:07 pm

Almost missed this “frustrated” whiner:

#66 Jean on 09.23.15 at 1:50 pm

“And in the TFSA. Ugh where do I start? In the UK the comparable vehicle is called an ISA and the investment limit is £15000 per year. Yep, over 30k CDN. So to watch all the Canadians get completely exorcised over a piddling little 5k CDN is frustrating. Please people, this cannot be an election issue. Gareth posted a few days ago the gigantic size of this portfolio over a couple decades. Yes, the math works. But seriously when you see how all politicians of every party debate this one issue so strenuously, do you really think we are going to see this grow for decades without somebody stepping in and saying, ENOUGH. At which time there will be a limit on contributions, or total size. This vehicle is just begging to be tampered with. I assume the vast majority will never see million plus balances, because they just won’t be allowed.”

#69 Jean on 09.23.15 at 1:55 pm

“….And in the UK there are many many ISA millionaires”

Well, d”Ugh”, you’ve only had a 10 year head start. “Yep”. 10. And with over twice the population, you should have “many many” ISA millionaires.

Btw, his name’s Garth.

Tedious.

#399 jess on 09.25.15 at 6:16 pm

how come they never seem to use the word Fraud

Berthold Huber, the acting head of VW’s supervisory board, called the crisis a “moral and policy disaster

#400 Ralph Cramdown on 09.25.15 at 6:27 pm

#399 jess — “how come they never seem to use the word Fraud”

Because it would make things much easier for all the class action lawyers that are lining up.

#401 Garth was right - NDPigs strike in Alberta on 09.25.15 at 6:32 pm

Over 40,000 Albertans have lost their jobs so far this year, just in the oil patch alone.

So what has Alberta’s NDP decided to do about it?

They voted to give their friends in government a 7.25% pay raise — and to give themselves a $20,000 junket to Boston!

http://www.therebel.media/ndpigs

#402 Nagraj on 09.25.15 at 7:12 pm

At that stupid French debate the Canadian PM, appearing puffy-faced, and kinda squinty-eyed, looked like a WINO!

And what’s with the dumb checkered shirt open at the collar? What’s that supposed to be? Manly? (“I’m hot!”)

Notice how his face was even weirder – like he put his ashen toupe further back on his head than usual – gave him a swollen, fluid-on-the-brain look.

Just as Americans expect their President to present as presidential, Canadians expect their PM to look Prime Ministerial. [One of those “niqsuwab” thingies woulda helped. Or a paper bag. Ha ha.]

Don’t you Harpo fans worry that your guy might be sick? Or that Mrs. Harper don’t care to dress him up proper? Eh?

I fully expected Ms May to ask, “Mr.Prime Minister, are all your good shirts at the dry cleaners tonight?”

Is Harper trying to look like Jeremy Corbyn? (That’s a rhetorical question.)

If Harpo aint ailin’, the only other possible explanation is that the most effective saboteurs in this country are working in his PR team.

What a sad mess.

#403 crowdedelevatorfartz on 09.25.15 at 7:49 pm

@#353 DON.
“is that all you have?”
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Well.
To be painfully honest.
You didn’t leave much else to comment on…..and your second rambling, disjointed reply was worse than the first.
If that’s possible.

#404 Saskatoon and Non Sequitur on 09.26.15 at 12:32 am

#304 saskatoon

The only thing inverted here is the non sequitur(s) in logic that you commit.

Fiscal and social responsibility are not mutually exclusive.

Nor, are they dangerous.

Quite the opposite, be grateful that many are willing to share their earnings and to lend their voice (taxes and vote) to help those less fortunate in life.

#405 cookiemonster on 09.26.15 at 12:17 pm

Jobs should not be an electoral concern in country like Canada, the second biggest in the world by area, with only 35 million population.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

#406 cookiemonster on 09.26.15 at 12:26 pm

Garth, can you explain how you claim to be for democracy, while you don’t want to raise taxes for the most extended and important undemocratic institution of our age, the corporation?

The most recent example: VW got away for years and years with environmental crimes if it was not for a government agency that conservatives would like to eliminate in favor of “self regulation” that they proclaim will protect our health.

Lowering taxes on corporations has not created jobs, just like it didn’t work with Bush in the USA, they are sitting on billions of dollars in their treasuries, perhaps to wait for the bottom to hit, or to use it as leverage so we vote for the business party PC, so they can buy out competitors and get even bigger and control the market.

#407 Setting the Record Straight on 09.26.15 at 2:12 pm

Regarding religious cultural “bigotry”.


At Pocking, another well-kept Bavarian town, the headmaster of the grammar school wrote to parents telling them not to let their daughters wear skimpy clothing. This was to avoid ‘misunderstandings’ with 200 migrants who were put up in the school’s gymnasium over the summer, before being moved on this month.
The letter to parents said the migrants were ‘mainly Muslim, and speak Arabic. They have their own culture. Because our school is directly next to where they are staying, modest clothing should be warn… revealing tops or blouses, short skirts or miniskirts could lead to misunderstandings.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249667/Germany-state-SIEGE-Merkel-cheered-opened-floodgates-migrants-gangs-men-roaming-streets-young-German-women-told-cover-mood-s-changing.html#ixzz3mry7DNyw
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#408 Setting the Record Straight on 09.26.15 at 2:17 pm

My understanding is that Harper is hated because he mismanaged the economy and rolled up deficits.

So people will vote for Trudeau because he is promising to properly manage the economy and run deficits.

#409 Setting the Record Straight on 09.27.15 at 10:49 am

@246
“social conservative before the age of 35 – my heart must be as black as coal. What I’m I to do?”

Become libertarian!

#410 T.C. on 09.27.15 at 12:11 pm

“…plus social justice and argued passionately for higher taxes on the rich and evil corps.”

Had to read that a couple of times. Thought you were writing about the NDPs practice of parading around a child’s corpse in order to eke out an increase in the polls.