The dilemma

Harper modified

This is personal. I regret the time spent with Stephen Harper. I’m not bitter. Life’s too short. But nor should I forget.

When I was a member of his caucus, Mr. Harper carefully engineered my ouster and ostracism. He went further then to ensure my political career would be destroyed and that I’d be defeated and eliminated in the next election. In all of these things he was wholly successful. Then he arranged for additional personal and professional embarrassment.

Thus, I was not merely fired in a one-on-one meeting, but my demise came in a public way, complete with a media orgy and live TV coverage. While taking care of the big stuff – throwing me out of the caucus, then banning me for life from the Conservative Party – the PM’s office also paid attention to the smaller details. My seat in the House of Commons was moved into a back corner brushing the curtains, and my office on Parliament Hill was drastically downgraded. I was accompanied out of my old one by three security guards.

Prior to these actions the PMO had tried to oust me from elected office by contesting my riding nomination – unheard of for a sitting member. The other day Dorothy reminded me the only time she’d been to 24 Sussex – to attend a caucus event for spouses – Mr. Harper turned his back on her.

My crimes had included blogging about being an MP, engaging taxpayers in issues coming up for votes in Parliament, interviewing opposition MPs and posting their vids so voters could gain more perspective, plus trying to create what I thought was a good thing – digital democracy.

I mention all of this because my relationship with Mr. Harper was a low point in my life. I’ve been elected an MP twice in my career, the first term serving harmoniously under two prime ministers who may have looked at me sideways, but respected my efforts. The second time – when he was party leader – it was quickly apparent things would end badly. And they did. He demanded complete subservience, but I was unable.

As I said, it’s personal. I’m motivated to never support Mr. Harper again, believing he would have been wiser to embrace a more open government and even an irritating little pecker like me. I’m also dismayed that during his time as leader of Canada, he increased the national debt by $170 billion, run a deficit almost every year and worked tirelessly, with 40-year mortgages, home reno tax credits and other tools to inflate houses and indebt citizens. I’m not happy we put so many eggs in the oil patch basket and will have to suffer the consequences of a commodity bust. The GST should never have been cut. Duffy never appointed. Or science muzzled.

You may feel you have reason to hate Mr. Harper and wish to punish him. Trust me, I have more.

Thus the election, his final one, poses a dilemma. Do we vote against, regardless of what we’re voting for?

The leaders debate on economic issues this week helped clarify things, if you happened to catch it. Harper was cool and robotic. Trudeau wanted to be Trump. Mulcair tried to look like grandpa. Not scary. The differences in policy and potential outcome are dramatic, however, and outweigh the personalities of all three men (I know them).

Both the Liberals and the NDP propose more tax, more spending and more government. At a volatile time when the economy is staggering along in technical recession, with record debt and unhappy job prospects, that’s a dubious premise. Mr. Trudeau says the rich will pay and the rest will benefit, which is a fairy tale. There are but 300,000 one-percenters in the land to soak, many of them with the ability to leave or shift income, and who already pay a ton. Both he and Mr. Mulcair say corporations will hand over billions more a year in levies – another fable. Corporations can easily restructure or relocate. Besides, with job insecurity, do you really want to drain your employer?

Personally, the NDP would see you contributing a lot more to the public pension plan, reducing take-home pay. Both the Libs and Dippers would trash the $10,000 contribution limit to the TFSA, while members of Mr. Mulcair’s party have been calling for a lifetime limit on tax-free savings and an end to the break investors receive through capital gains tax. In other words, this is a move against personal wealth and independence, in favour of the collective.

All three parties, sadly, are catering to house lust and anxious to promote even more household debt. But at least the Cons understand that additional tax – on workers or the wealthy or employers – is regressive. That includes the NDP’s carbon tax and all your taxable assets in years ahead that could have been sheltered within a TFSA. I guess if you trust the government more than yourself, then Mr. Trudeau and Mr. Mulcair are your guys.

The polls are tight and the outcome uncertain. Comments here show a visceral dislike of Mr. Harper. Seems a lot of people will, as in Alberta recently, vote to punish.

That may feel good for a day or two.

506 comments ↓

#1 HB on 09.18.15 at 5:01 pm

“Canada urgently needs to pivot back towards sound money principles and adopt policies with respect to the real estate market that puts the interests of all Canadians, including future generations, first. Most importantly, the next government in Ottawa has to stop relying on a buildup of household debt as a means to keep our economy going. There is no point in chest pounding over central government balanced budgets during a period in which financial risks are merely being moved onto family balance sheets.”

Harper economics: running on debt and easy money

https://canadianinsider.com/blog/harper-economics-running-debt-and-easy-money

(Aug. 11, 2013)
“Three-quarters of all Canadian mortgages are insured by the federal government, up from only 30 per cent in 1988. Ottawa guarantees a total of $900-billion worth of mortgage insurance.”

After decades of stoking mortgages, Ottawa in a mess of its own making

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/housing/after-decades-of-stoking-mortgages-ottawa-in-a-mess-of-its-own-making/article13705668/

#2 Nick on 09.18.15 at 5:21 pm

Hi Garth, love your work. By the way, are you a New Stock, or Old Stock Canadian? ;)

#3 Editrix on 09.18.15 at 5:25 pm

Maybe I should vote Green….

#4 Ontario Physician on 09.18.15 at 5:28 pm

I wish the race wasn’t so tight and I could vote Green, with my conscience (although they have rumbled about eliminating “corporate tax loopholes” as well). A few months ago I was thinking anyone but Harper… Until I took a good look at the other options. With Wynne eviscerating health care in Ontario, last thing my family needs are more taxes. I’m not the only one of my colleagues eyeing other jurisdictions to move to.

Glad I didn’t just buy a multimillion dollar real estate anchor!

#5 hamish42 on 09.18.15 at 5:28 pm

If only Mr Harpers management style was not typical of leadership in Canada. Why are so many Canadian firms unable to grow beyond a certain point. I am not saying the US is perfect but usually in the US they do not tolerate a bullying style of leadership.
I think that voting out someone with this leadership style is the only logical step.
The housing bust and resource heavy approach of Canada will continue who ever wins.

#6 FormerSaskie on 09.18.15 at 5:29 pm

Harper may decide to stay on, therefore ABC.

#7 zedgt87 on 09.18.15 at 5:29 pm

Canada absolutely cannot do worse than the tories.

Elect them out. I don’t care who it is, their record speaks loudly and it is absolutely lousy.

This is an ABC election and rightfully so. We have no good options, but we have one option that is unquestionably the worst.

#8 Ned on 09.18.15 at 5:34 pm

Pretty much my thoughts. Maybe Harper will lose his riding with con majority..
A boy can dream..

#9 Bill Gable on 09.18.15 at 5:35 pm

Interesting – and perhaps chilling. Notice how many jurisdictions are undergoing tremendous stress, both social and financial. It’s a GLOBAL financial disaster brewing, and we at least get the bottom line and truth from Mr. Turner, as he sees it, as opposed to the garbage from many ‘bought and sold’ media types.
When are we going to see REAL reporting, in the MSM, on how brittle the World Economy is?

#10 S.Bby on 09.18.15 at 5:43 pm

Here’s the way I see it: better the devil you know than the devil you don’t. Harper is a prick, no question, but we gotta look at the bigger picture of how much damage have the Cons done (or will continue to do) vs. what the other guys will perpetrate on Canada. So I will hold my nose and vote Conservative for another term. Maybe we’ll get a minority and have a bit more cooperation, or maybe an early next election. Either way, this is Harper’s last stand and he’ll probably be gone in a year or two. Real bad that you had to endure that Garth; politics sure can be a dirty business.

#11 Mister Obvious on 09.18.15 at 5:45 pm

In my riding of Vancouver Center, Liberal Hedy Fry has been victorious in the previous seven elections.

In the most recent election the Conservatives and NDP were in a dead heat for second place, each sharing 26% of the vote compared to Fry’s winning 31%.

The last Conservative to hold Vancouver Center was Kim Campbell (1988 to 1993) whom I believe was Garth’s boss when he was heading up the CRA. Campbell squeaked in with 37.2% of the vote not even a full percent ahead of the NDP with 36.8%

Fortunately, in this country, we elect Members of Parliament and not Prime Minister’s. At least, that’s the way I like to think of it these days.

I’ve looked at the current Vancouver Center candidates who all happen to be women. The conservative candidate is Elaine Allan. I’ve read her profile and believe I can live with her even though I know full well that a vote for her is a vote for Stephen Harper.

I’ve had enough of listening to the current leaders. I’m perfectly clear on what each one of them stands for and I’m generally not much impressed.

After October 19, after Hedy Fry wins Vancouver center yet again, if somebody asks me how I voted, I’ll say I voted for Elaine Allen not for Stephen Harper.

That’s the best I can do.

#12 mitzerboy aka queencity kid on 09.18.15 at 5:45 pm

I hear ya garth …
very good info today
thx

#13 Randy Randerson on 09.18.15 at 5:47 pm

I’m also leaning towards voting for Harpo the Klown. Of the shitty three, he’s the less shitty one.

#14 John on 09.18.15 at 5:48 pm

Live in a swing riding. GTA. Everything around here is going Liberal. Incumbents are all Cons. About time for after the 40 year mortgage mess, continuous deficits, loopy tax breaks piled on tax breaks in the middle of the post 2008 melt while field deficits. We might have had a slightly more open mind about a Con vote if Harper-the-nasty had had the decency to call a leadership race in 2012. He didn’t. Now rocket launch at the polls is all us peasants can do. He’ll never match Garth’s reach on this website. So, you’ll feel good for more than a couple of days, Garth. You’ll be rocking and Harpie will be history.

#15 Randy Randerson on 09.18.15 at 5:48 pm

Question: When did Mulcair mentioned the Dippers will eliminate capital gain tax? I sure as hell won’t allow anyone to take away my 50% tax free portion.

#16 Page on 09.18.15 at 5:49 pm

And while many WILL be out there on election day “voting to punish”, just watch out you’re not punishing yourselves….or, worse yet, me.

#17 Nemesis on 09.18.15 at 5:51 pm

#”MyNameIsMaximus”,Or… #CrowdPleasingComebacksFromAntiquity…
#”IWillHaveMyVengeance”

https://youtu.be/X1UmHfWCw-4

#18 Vancouver Troy on 09.18.15 at 5:52 pm

I don’t understand how day care facilities can stay in business if the NDP says they can only charge $15/day?

Or is the government going to pay the difference by raising taxes? Isn’t that going to be a massive bill to pay for every person in Canada’s child care 5 days a week?

I never had kids. Don’t want to pay for someone else’s. Voting Cons.

#19 Smartalox on 09.18.15 at 5:53 pm

Surveying the carnage of the federal election with my financial advisor yesterday, he pointed out that in his experience, candidates have very little sense of how the mechanism of government works, which explains the wide gulf between what is said, and what eventually gets enacted.

I have more problems with a zealot who says “we’ll enact this or that on day one” than I do with someone who is non-committal on time frames. It makes me think that there will be more time for actual debate before action, than there is during an election campaign, when communications with MPs is decidedly one-sided.

Unless of course that Stephen Harper is re-elected, in which case, communications will REMAIN one-sided.

#20 tkid on 09.18.15 at 5:53 pm

I don’t like all 3 of the leaders, and I don’t like all 3 of the parties. If there was a fourth leader/party to vote for who campaigned on fiscal responsibility I’d vote for them. But there ain’t, and I’m at a dead loss on who to vote for. This dislike of mine is starting to drift into apathy.

#21 Gulf Breeze on 09.18.15 at 5:55 pm

Harper is a neocon, in other words, a proto-fascist. They are a tremendous danger. We have edged closer to a police state with him and allied ourselves much more closely to the Anglo-American axis of weevils.

I don’t care if my taxes go up, WAY up. I want to be as far away ideologically, from this cabal of book burning bootlickers as I can be.

So go ahead, read my lips, “Bring on the taxes!”

#22 SunShowers on 09.18.15 at 5:57 pm

I’m not voting to punish, I’m voting to protect. I genuinely fear for Canada’s future as a democracy under Harper. He’s undemocratic and tyrannical, but not so overtly that he raises the hackles of the common sheeple. Essentially, a diet-dictator for a first world nation.

I can’t support somebody like that, even if he’ll make my portfolio bigger. Maybe I’ll vote Tory once Harper’s gone.

#23 Retired Boomer - WI on 09.18.15 at 5:59 pm

No dog in this fight. I’m not Canadian.

Garth, regardless of the shameful treatment of Harper towards you, the selection of misery seems to limit one’s options to he who likely be least damaging.

Based on the likelihood of potential victors, and that would exclude the Green Party who have too little a following… one will need to carefully weigh the prospects, including who turned chameleon after the LAST Fed election…

One rather unfortunate aspect of Politicians, after elected to office, the ‘tail light’ guarantee kicks in. That guarantee states, “If elected I promise to do blah, and blah, and blah some more.” Once elected, they can become the most surprising of creatures. The wild-eyed can become competent leaders who recognize you can only deliver so much, without damaging the productive, and you can only inflict so much pain on the unproductive.

Perhaps our FDR put it best, “My job is to comfort the afflicted, while inflicting the comfortable.” This during the Great Depression.

Notice, we still have both in the US. Overall we live a pretty dam good life, never perfect, but nearly so. In my many days in Canada, I have to say you are much the same.

Most of our problems are entirely self-inflicted . Here as well as there.

Careful what you vote for, but never fear the untried leader. They’re only as good as their contemporaries.

#24 T.O. Bubble Boy on 09.18.15 at 6:02 pm

I’m not happy we put so many eggs in the oil patch basket and will have to suffer the consequences of a commodity bust. The GST should never have been cut. Duffy never appointed. Or science muzzled.

Who *IS* happy with any of that?

(…..crickets…..)

#25 ed on 09.18.15 at 6:04 pm

I noted Eli May said he supports returning CHMC to its original role ie not backing up bank profits. That sounds positive; unfortunately too much else which makes the dipper seem sane…

#26 Nick on 09.18.15 at 6:07 pm

@23 Retired Boomer – WI
‘Notice, we still have both in the US. Overall we live a pretty dam good life, never perfect, but nearly so. In my many days in Canada, I have to say you are much the same.’

That’s the problem. Harper’s neocon dream was to turn Canada into the 51st. State. He almost succeeded. Thankfully, a month from now, Canadians will take back their country, and their destiny. We are better than that.
A tradition of multiculturalism, peacemakers, universal healthcare, accessible education, a respect of the sciences and the environment. The list goes on, but change is coming.

#27 Keith in Calgary on 09.18.15 at 6:09 pm

I am voting for Trudeau.

Mulcair and his cronies creep me out and people with beards are not to be trusted.

Harper has ruined Canada economically.

At least with Trudeau I won’t get busted for blazing a Marley……..

#28 Mocha on 09.18.15 at 6:09 pm

I like the cartoon. The limp-wristed lackey on the right makes me chuckle.

#29 Kurt on 09.18.15 at 6:13 pm

Sometimes freedom and democracy trump comfort. Mr. Harper has made it clear what the price is for his “economic leadership” (frankly, though times have been challenging, any of the previous 6 prime minister would have done as well), and I think it’s time we cut our losses. Whether that’s someone who states the obvious, that deficits are inevitable over the next few years, or someone who lies (promises a balanced budget) but doesn’t have as much baggage, I don’t much care. The realities of power constrain radical change and, as Retired Boomer – WI says, don’t fear the untried leader.

#30 David on 09.18.15 at 6:14 pm

An excellent post Garth. But you forgot the fourth alternative, the Green Party. If you like some of Harper’s policies but can’t bring yourself to vote for him, vote Green. If the vote splits in your riding and a Conservative squeaks in, you may get some of what you want without a guilty conscience.

#31 M on 09.18.15 at 6:15 pm

when there are no real sound alternatives, people will vote with their feet.
if things still don t get any better, there always gonna be a “dolphie”

#32 john duffy on 09.18.15 at 6:15 pm

What will happen to mortgages if we get negative rates?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-17/what-yellen-said-about-negative-rates-coming-us

#33 Some Other Mark on 09.18.15 at 6:16 pm

As I have said before, this election is about more than the economy. I am against Harper because he has created two levels of citizenship with FATCA and C-24. I am against him for his war on science, whether it is muzzling federal scientists or dumping the long form census. I am against Harper because he has surrounded himself with people who are now being charged with crimes.

I have no doubt that I will have issues with whoever forms the next government. As someone who is lucky enough to be well off financially, I’ll possibly take a hit from higher taxes or smaller TFSA contributions.

I consider this a worthwhile price to pay to rid this country of Harper.

#34 Mocha on 09.18.15 at 6:21 pm

Harper’s garbage for many other reasons.

-Surveillance legislation
-Prorogued parliament
-Refuses to answer questions and attend debates
-Bombing the Middle East
-Sucking up to Israel in a fashion which is nationally humiliating

The other guys are so disappointing in their own ways too.

Just another crappy election.

#35 old gringo on 09.18.15 at 6:22 pm

Politicians , such as seen in that terrible debate , are called”cockroaches” south of the border.
The best vote would be the lessor of evils.
Best of luck, the country will need it.

#36 Keyboard Samurai on 09.18.15 at 6:22 pm

As a regular reader of your blog, including most of the comments, I can safely say that the vitriol towards Harper is understated here in comparison to what I see in real life and in other, more inclusive, forums. For example try taking a look at reddit.com/r/canada, a community of 150k registered users and probably 10 times as many lurkers. As we found out not that long ago most of the commenters here are on their way to the 1%, or at least the top 5%, so it’s a select group. It’s surprising (in a good way) that the Harper hatred has overriden even rich people’s instinct for financial self-interest. Harper’s done, and you will be glad not to be associated with his legacy.

#37 X on 09.18.15 at 6:24 pm

Agreed, not a Harper fan either, however not a fan of stupidity. So the Cons will get my vote.

Love that TFSA, which really should have been named the Tax Free Investing Account.

I don’t mind more debt, like how a business may take on debt to become more profitable though expansion, but debt to buy votes doesn’t work for me.

Tax the rich seems to resonate well with voters, until they realize those are the individuals who will not have more $ to give them raises anymore. Sounds more like 1 step forwards, 2 back at my expense.

Too bad Harper tried to ride the one trick pony of oil and gas, and didn’t do much else for the overall economy. It would have been great if we built something other than houses.

#38 Sebee on 09.18.15 at 6:25 pm

Is someone here suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome?

#39 ForeverLadyInWaiting on 09.18.15 at 6:25 pm

It is fallacy to determine your vote based on potential economic impacts alone. The Feds control a relatively small fraction of the Canadian economy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-economy-debate-central-bank-1.3232927

I can say that the Cons have managed to muzzle the scientific community both inside and outside the government, thereby divorcing policy decisions from hard evidence or analysis. This myopic strategy will hurt Canada in the long run and it is a much, MUCH bigger reason to oust them.

#40 mrCatfish on 09.18.15 at 6:25 pm

“I don’t care if my taxes go up, WAY up. I want to be as far away ideologically, from this cabal of book burning bootlickers as I can be. So go ahead, read my lips, “Bring on the taxes!” ”

I couldn’t agree more. All of the changes proposed by the Libs, NDP and Greens will hit me hard, as I do not have a house but a big investment portfolio. I don’t care, Harper is destroying Canada and making it a place I am ashamed of.

#41 LazyJason on 09.18.15 at 6:27 pm

Well if the status quo isn’t working perhaps a change is needed. Personally I have no problem with deficit spending on infrastructure because at least the country will get something from it. Unlike Harpers’ massive debt which has given us nothing.

#42 Bottoms_Up on 09.18.15 at 6:27 pm

Garth, that was an interesting (but perhaps your only) way to say you support the conservatives. While reducing tax and eliminating reliance on government is good, how can you vote FOR environmental apathy and against democracy and freedom of speech?

Your blog has more democracy in it than the entire conservatice caucus. It is a true contribution to our society, and for that i thank you.

Liberal has my vote. It is specifically against the cons, as well as being for someone that comes across as willing to fight for the canada that i believe most of us want to see, both environmentally and on the world stage.

#43 Upper Canada Pundit on 09.18.15 at 6:29 pm

The number of twitter followers and social media barking seals is miniscule compared to the number of people who will vote. I wouldn’t worry about the 9 year CBC twitter campaign to stir up a Hate Harper movement or The Globes deceptive agenda to set up a ‘strategic voting’. The Star doesn’t have enough readers to fill a basement and anything that’s spewed from that rag is nothing to consider seriously…more like the whining of a child who’s lost their pudding spoon and wants another.

Garth..you are a good example of the average Canadian…you may not love PM Harper…you might even be sick of having the same boring faces in government ( like the 7 year itch in any relationship) but the alternative of an NDP or Trudeau government is to flush your life savings down the toilet. …a majority of Canadians understand that. Canadians are vocal but frugal and vote with their wallets when hard times are upon us.

It may seem like there is a movement to ‘Get Harper’…but in reality the number of crazies in the country is less than it will take to create a ‘soft coup’ with a barrage of social media re-tweets which is nothing more than one hundred liberals sending hundreds of messages to themselves and creating the illusion of a grass roots movement.

#44 Vundo on 09.18.15 at 6:29 pm

Trudeau, to his credit, is the only leader who even mentioned renting during the housing portion of the debate. If you pardon his “1%” line, you will see that the other end of his “middle class tax cut” plan would free up more money for middle income taxpayers, even those without babies, housewives, or a need for a kItchen reno. How do you think that people wishing, but lacking the cash, to put 5500 in their TFSA feel about the prospect of actually being able to keep a little more cash for that purpose?

As a leader he is full of flaws, and his party has always left something to be desired. But my point is that sometimes there is more to consider than simply who is offering the best deal to wealthy investors. If this is not the case, Garth, what were you thinking eight years ago when you joined Dion’s team? Was his Liberal party less leftist than what we have today? I probably won’t vote for them, but it’s getting easier to sympathise with those who are more willing to endure the Liberal tax plan than more years of PMSH.

#45 Bob on 09.18.15 at 6:30 pm

Garth,

I think what troubles me the most about your story today is the disrespect shown towards your wife by the PM. Must still hurt…I know it would still bother me.

Regards.

#46 RunningWithScissors on 09.18.15 at 6:31 pm

I have a question about the TFSA – if Harper loses and the winning party drops the limit, how long would that likely take to enact? If I drop in another $10K on January 1st and the limit is dropped a day or week or month later, would I avoid penalties?

I know there’s a few weeks from when the new government would assume power to when they’d get around to fiddling with the TFSA, but I’m hoping to slip my contribution in before the door closes.

#47 boonerator on 09.18.15 at 6:32 pm

“irritating little pecker like me.”

Canada would be better off with more irritating little peckers like Garth.

#48 Paully on 09.18.15 at 6:32 pm

I watched the debate with great interest. I found myself wishing desperately that each of the candidates was wearing an electro-shock collar. That way, every time that they started to interrupt each other and blurt stuff out, the moderator could have simply zapped them to remind them to shut up while others were speaking.

It would seem that most kindergarteners generally have better manners than MPs.

#49 vote for me and i'll set you free on 09.18.15 at 6:34 pm

The problem is systemic and global. All the ‘enemies’ are actors. Putin or lmindeedanutjob, or the freak in north korea – will Never call out tbe west on psyops, hoaxes,fake terror, Nasa’s phony ISS because its not in their scripts. Justin and mulcair play Ultra softball with harpo because they are scripted -they support the same system of lies. There is only one side folks, thats it.

#50 Randy on 09.18.15 at 6:38 pm

Now I know why Tigers eat their young.

#51 Rantanplan007 on 09.18.15 at 6:41 pm

So I don’t comment very often on here.. My profile: 30-something, from Montreal, and now living in Calgary. Still employed, lucky me. We already see signs that the Alberta NDP won’t get re-elected at the provincial level in 2019, so far they aren’t impressing anyone.

Back in 2002, Justin Trudeau was in my materials class, first year of engineering. I thought he was a bit of a loner actually, and he certainly didn’t get an engineering degree. I certainly don’t want him to manage my taxes.

I’m not a big fan of Harper as a person. But I don’t understand why people hate Harper so much, as a prime minister. And I don’t think he put all eggs in the same basket; the oil and gas industry represents a smaller chunk of GDP now compared to when he took office. All G8 countries ran massive deficits in the last 7 years, and private sector job creation has been mediocre at best across the board… think France, Germany, the US, etc.

Actually, I don’t really care about the PM’s personality as long as he manages the budget properly, keeps our streets safe and in decent condition, and provides sufficient funding to the health care system.

Canada remains one of the best places to live in the world… Oh and I read the news everyday and understand economics. So, why are people so angry? Why?

#52 Llewelyn on 09.18.15 at 6:42 pm

All I can state with absolute certainty is that Stephen Harper controls the Conservative Party and that he sees very little reason to alter course. I fear his intransigence is not good for Canada and for that reason alone our only alternative is to support a party that is prepared to consider change.

When you look back at a Canada’s history you will find that dozens of initiatives introduced by the CCF or the NDP were supported by the party in power. Tommy Douglas, Roy Romanow,Ed Schreyer, Allan Blakney, Davis Lewis, Ed Broadbent, Audrey McLaughlin, Jack Layton all contributed to the legislative framework of Canada.

Canada must change their direction as soon as possible. Electing a party controlled by a man who thinks he has done a great job for the last ten years seems just a touch regressive to me.

If I submitted an idea about how Canada might improve their global reputation to Tom Mulcair I am certain I would receive a response. Stephen Harper would probably instruct the CRA to audit my taxes.

#53 BC Guy on 09.18.15 at 6:43 pm

Hey Garth, thanks for sharing your story about Harper. It confirms what the majority in this country have been saying: he’s a control-freak dictator that has eroded democracy, parliament and the Conservative party.

In the past, I’ve voted Progressive Conservative, Reform, Canadian Alliance, and in the last election Jack Layton and the NDP.

I’ve gone from voting for “right-wing” parties to voting “left-wing” parties, because despite being a highly-educated, white-collar, “middle-class” worker, taxpayer and entrepreneur, it’s getting more and more difficult to find an affordable home, get full time work or even contract work. The beautiful province of BC has many 10,000 and 100,000 acre ranches owned by large corporations and 1%er’s. Meanwhile, the majority of the population is crammed into Vancity and suburbs paying a million dollars for a 1/4 acre lot.

You can say there are only 300,000 1%er’s in Canada and there is not much left to tax. Garth, you need to use your imagination: how about taxing the large land-holders? The NDP may not be advocating that at the moment, but … maybe one day.

Think of the instant boost to the Canadian economy if the large ranches across BC would be sold off in 5 or 10 acre parcels! There would be a land rush, average Canadians would start up all kinds of small business from local organic agriculture, woodlots, recreational businesses, tourism. Besides giving a boost to the economy, it would give the average Canadian what should be their birthright – a chance to buy land, not be crowded into a condo in a cramped city.

The first step is to tell Harper: “You’re Fired!”

#54 Habs76-79 on 09.18.15 at 6:43 pm

My take is that we will see a minority govt. regardless of who shall win. So in reality some of the more controversial aspects and promises made during this campaign will be shelved or adjusted/stunted to be more tasteful. So in reality the next govt. of Canada being a minority one IMO will walk tenderly on issues.

This said, Harper is a pathetic man who is a control freak and as such these types are always dangerous. He’s a little man who lies so much that to me he makes (lyin) Brian Mulroney look near Saint like and trust me, I believed until Harper came along Mulroney may have been our most arrogant and egotistical PM in the last 100 years. On top of that he was just lousy at governing including opening up cans of worms, cough, cough, the Constitution, NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE! But Harper, well he looks to be a conceited and heartless jerk who probably pulled wings off of flies as a kid. That and/or pushed other school girls into mud puddles as a kid as well.

Con. supporters, remember Harper was so toxic, that he blew up his relationship with your man of the 90’s Preston Manning, so bad than Manning threw him out of the Reform party and if I recall has never forgiven him and his callous, conceited actions while Harper served under him back in the day.

Garth’s recollections are enough for me to say HARPER MUST GO! He has done nothing to improve the quality of life of most Canadians except maybe that of those most connected in the nation.

Change can be good in govt. New leaders tend to walk the straight and narrow for a while before they too consume the pill of arrogance and conceit. We should not fear change from Harper. Airing out his stinking office and throwing out his dirty bath water will be refreshing and in the words often said by politicians. “You can take that to the bank.” LOL. :-)

If Canucks vote Harper back then we deserve the sh*t storm he will continue to rain on us.

Do I have faith in Trudeau, or Mulcair? Nope, can’t say that I do, but either one will be a change and IMO a refreshing one for a little while. Neither will likely be as arrogant, pathetically small minded and jerk-like as Harper has though regardless of our nation’s future down the road.

#55 Ralph Cramdown on 09.18.15 at 6:45 pm

Never mind the economic issues.

The man is corroding our democracy. I don’t believe the robocalls were the work of a single, rogue low-level employee. The handbook on how to delay and obstruct the work of parliamentary committees was low. The flouting of campaign finance laws, and the neutering of Elections Canada. The voter ID law is US style voter suppression. The omnibus bills, the use of cloture to limit debate, prorogation, the contempt for question period, and for the press. The continuous use of government funds for what are essentially Conservative party ads. The appointment of unqualified or immoral people to cabinet, the senate, the judiciary, the PMO and the civil service.

A vote in favour of more of the above will further corrode our democracy, regardless of whether you think is the best economic choice for yourself, or for the country.

#56 triplenet on 09.18.15 at 6:48 pm

Similar to your story, I too was escorted from my gov’t real property taxation office when in my early thirties. I had the MBA – they didn’t – but I truly thought that efficiency and accuracy were most important. What an eye opener after some articling at a major bank specializing in commercial lending, never mind residential valuations. Like you I truly did not think that gov’t and politics were so misguided and disingenuous.
I’m sure my family made me do it to learn an important lesson. Notwithstanding, what a shame power is the primary pursuit of incompetent gov’t. Chameleon…. is there a prepatory course for that?
I told my manager that I cannot “act”. He did not understand. I changed jobs…he changed colour. I guess. But what a pension.

#57 Rexx Rock on 09.18.15 at 6:48 pm

Its sad we can’t have a leader like Ron Paul that all Candians could be proud to have as prime minister.We have to settle for the lesser of three evils.Just don’t vote.

Ron Paul is a nutbar. — Garth

#58 Sheane Wallace on 09.18.15 at 6:48 pm

So the choice is between:

-A proven liar, arrogant and despicable human being who destroyed the economy and democracy single handedly and continues to promote debt saying that it is good and improves house affordability.

– A naive, childish and very inexperienced but definitely not corrupted young boy who never worked real work in his life

– A great unknown and definitely bad money manager NDP leader who is charismatic and definitely more polished than the fuhrer.

I am inclined towards Harper but boy I wish he simply shuts the f..k up and stops lying or talking nonsense with arrogant reassuring tone. I need to be drunk and I probably will be in order to vote for him.

At this point I am really not convinced who would be a bigger danger, it is clear that we are sinking but I am looking for most year or two.

#59 NewStockCanadian on 09.18.15 at 6:48 pm

For me, its Mulcair. Last night Justin Trudeau was totally hyper. ADHD hyper. Uncomfortable nervous hyper.

This means that when the tension is on, he doesn’t keep his cool.

There is more to governance than money and taxation policy. There is the calm leadership and poise which starts at the top. Leaders set the tone. Mulcair brings that.

(And he better not drop the TFSA!..)

#60 Barry Lainof on 09.18.15 at 6:55 pm

That Prime Minister Harper turned his back to your wife, has turned his back on our brave military Veterans, has thrown a close personal friend Mr. Wright (of the PMO) under the bus, three Senate appointees of his own in front of the bus (even if they were not worthy of their position given to them by Mr. Harper) – all without taking responsibility for any of the many mistakes initiated from his office. A clear character flaw of finger pointing, lack of loyalty and an absence of respect for others.

Mr. Harper (in my opinion) is not someone that should be rewarded with further time in office, nor should a party of cowards be allowed to guide this great country of Canada. At least the many, unhappy former Conservatives left prior to another election. A clear statement of hopelessness and inability to improve Mr. Harper’s weak and petty character.

#61 Marquis de Sale on 09.18.15 at 6:58 pm

Garth, did you ever “bance’ Harper when you were in his office? His ‘lil crème de menthe cup is next to his picture of Jim Keegstra.

#62 Love my Kia on 09.18.15 at 6:58 pm

One of the more Conservative candidates, http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/16/darth-vader-election-sign-midland_n_7995424.html

#63 Love my Kia on 09.18.15 at 6:59 pm

I meant to say this is one of the more ‘moderate’ conservative candidates. (typing too fast)!

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/16/darth-vader-election-sign-midland_n_7995424.html

#64 Bobs ur uncle on 09.18.15 at 7:00 pm

There are many pillars to freedom Garth, and Steve has been eating away at the bulk of them, including freedom of speech (muzzling MPs, scientists), freedom of the press (not willing to scrum with reporters), freedom of assembly (spying on anti-pipeline protestors) and the right to privacy (crazy intrusive surveillance laws). We are all less free under his rule. He. Must. Go! If that means a few of extra bucks in taxes, well frankly, I lay it at his feet. If he had followed thru on open transparent government instead of turning into a paranoid whackjob, the cons might still have a hope.

#65 JG on 09.18.15 at 7:00 pm

for me, at this crucial time for our country, it is better I vote for the devil I know, than a devil I don’t. sigh

#66 Gulf Breeze on 09.18.15 at 7:01 pm

#40. Mr. Catfish,

Thank you. I want to be proud of being a Canadian again. Under Harper, the Maple Leaf withered. It will dry up and blow away, along with many of the freedoms we take for granted–if he is voted back in.

Canadians have been shaken to their cores by the Darth Cheney wannabee, fiscally irresponsible, reprehensible clown currently running the show. I want to give more in taxes to restore, rebuild my country and particularly restore funding to the CBC so they can return to their former glory.

For too long all journalists have toed the line, knowing their jobs were at stake if they did any major muckraking. The media has been very muzzled in Canada. I have seen it, by proxy, from the inside.

#67 phil carney on 09.18.15 at 7:03 pm

Chill Winston… Canada has survived lousy prime ministers. That’s all we seem to get . Think Mackenzie King (thought Hitler was OK) The Dief (scraped the Arrow sending brilliant minds to the US space program)
Trudeau (the chickens have come home to roost) Cretian ( sonsporship scandal) and Mulroney (airbus deal). If we were more hardass like the OZZIE’s the caucus would have give Steve the boot. We will survive , there are too many good things here to fail.

#68 Doug in London on 09.18.15 at 7:03 pm

Garth;
You put forth a good argument in favour of voting for the Con Artists but many Canadians, myself included, aren’t sold. I see you’ve done a lot to try and make democracy work better for everyone, which is obviously a good thing. Meanwhile I’ve heard and read from MANY sources, not just this blog, about how dictator Adolf Harper is doing everything possible to get rid of democracy, in other words it’s my way or the highway. The straw that broke the camel’s back is this muzzling of scientists. I am a person of scientific and technological background, and find that unnaceptable in this day in age. My calendar says it’s now 2015 AD, that’s in the 21st century, is that true? I quite simply CAN’T vote for someone like that. Democracy is far from perfect, but the paltry amount of it we have left in this country is well worth preserving. Just ask any veterans who have put their lives on the line to preserve it. Yes, if the NDP or Liberals get in I will pay more taxes and accumulate less wealth over the years, but it’s a price worth paying to get rid of Adolf Harper and preserve democracy. If we get rid of Harper, I won’t feel good for a day or two. Try a decade or two, that’s more like it. Actually, if Harper is defeated I may feel rough the next day, from a hangover caused by drinking too much Champagne!

#69 Mf on 09.18.15 at 7:04 pm

#293 jess on 09.18.15 at 4:02 pm

Awesome link and well written artcle. What a story. Thanks!

Have to ask what the point of posting it for me was though?

Mf

#70 Slim on 09.18.15 at 7:04 pm

How much damage can the NDP do in the next four years, if elected? As in Alberta, I can’t see the NDP getting re-elected. Muclair is throwing numbers around as if it’s no big deal. Has he actually thought these things through? Scary!!!

#71 Randy on 09.18.15 at 7:06 pm

Why not negative rates…since the Fed has Negative credibility ?

#72 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 7:08 pm

“That may feel good for a day or two.”

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Yes, it’s going to ugly. Very disappointing and depressing. But Harper is a mean, vindictive, cruel man…and I don’t want him. Period. End of story. He is the reason we are in the mess we are in. It’s his way, or no way. Do we want more of the same?

The other two better get their damn acts together and start using their heads!

#73 Fred on 09.18.15 at 7:09 pm

I knew going into this election that I would have to hold my nose in order to vote for any of the three. Watching last night, it’s clear I’ll choose Harper and I hate that.

#74 Don on 09.18.15 at 7:12 pm

I have lots of complaints about all three leaders, but it boils down pretty easily:

If you are right, Garth, if the opposition parties are too handy with taxation, too damaging to wealth accumulation (neither of which I believe, but let’s just say)….

…that damage is transient, and pales in comparison to the deep wounds the Prime Minister has left already in our democratic institutions, which will take beyond my lifetime to completely undo. Our international reputation has been profoundly damaged, our first ministers barely talk to one another, and Parliament and the GG have become subservient to the PMO. I wish the other leaders were talking about these things. I would vote for whoever will. But meanwhile, I have to make do with ridding ourselves of this odious autocrat, and riding whatever horse will get me there.

#75 McFly604 on 09.18.15 at 7:12 pm

Great read today! Thank you for the insight Garth. Much appreciated.

#76 50 Grey Hairs on 09.18.15 at 7:13 pm

Vote for the party that hurts you least.
For me and all taxpayers that put our pants on one leg at a time….Conservative.

#77 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 7:15 pm

“Thus the election, his final one, poses a dilemma. Do we vote against, regardless of what we’re voting for?”

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Yes. Yes, we do…because at the present time that’s all we’ve got. We have plenty to ‘vote against’ — his performance to date.

#78 Disgusted by the Whole Friggin' Bunch in Ottawa & Queens Park on 09.18.15 at 7:18 pm

Everything you’re saying is true but at the same time there is just as much scary about Harper. His default position is that everyone is trying to steal something and treats them accordingly. Everyone I’ve ever known in my life who displayed the paranoia that Harper does was guilty of the very thing that they were so paranoid about others doing.
He is a lying duplicitous bastard. Did you known that in the last couple of months they closed scores of RDSPs and took back any bonds and grants that were given. Did you know that they didn’t bother to send out letters before hand to give the chance to correct the issue, usually an expired Disability Tax Credit Certificate. This despite it seeming to be against CRA policy and there being several ways to correct the situation. There is no way to appeal this, as there is with any other such program. The only avenue seems to be Federal Court. The CRA knows this is a problem knew before hand that it would be and claim they are trying to figure something out. I don’t know the total numbers but one institution closed 190 RDSPs.
All of this while Harper is promising to increase the bond and grant amounts, if re-elected, because he cares so much.
Bill C-51, the Omnibus bills, closure. Harper is getting this country very close to a false democracy where we vote then they ignore us. You are so right about the science evaporation but there are two reasons for that, science is a problem for his nonsensical proclamations and he would fit in better in the southern bible belt if he showed his true colours.
Seeing you do actually know him let me ask you one question. He always looks to me like he wants to crawl out of his own skin, is he really that uncomfortable with himself or is it just that all snakes must shed from time to time?
Don’t even get me started on the parasites he is surrounded with like Clemet, Calandra and the creepiest Poilievre. There are more but I’ll leave it at that. There are even a few good ones but as you know they will accomplish nothing under Harper’s thumb.
I am probably going to have hold my nose, try not to puke and vote for my local CPC candidate but I won’t feel good about it. I hope that at least it’s a minority to slow Herr Harper down on legislation and speed up his resignation.

#79 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 7:21 pm

“In other words, this is a move against personal wealth and independence, in favour of the collective.”

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And that is precisely why they’re elected for only ONE term at provincial levels.

#80 Trojan House on 09.18.15 at 7:23 pm

#21 Gulf Breeze

With all due respect, you are an idiot!

#81 Figmund Sreaud on 09.18.15 at 7:23 pm

Look, Mr. Turner. Let’s not fret.

The reality as it stands presently is, plebs attending to the voting booths found that their supposed right to shape the destiny of this nation at the voting booth had been reduced to irrelevance!

Same plebs also strongly suspect that every other party with a shot at power embrace the pretty same set of political and economic policies, … more or less.

That set up might have been palatable if the policies in question worked, but they didn’t, they don’t, and it is becoming increasingly clear that they never will! And it was Mr. Harper that finally, … finally imprinted this fact most clearly into their brains.

Anyway, what we are facing right now is just a confusion stage that will result in ultimate shift that will leave very few things unchanged!

Like it or not, …

F.S. – Calgary, Alberta.

#82 IVoteIndependent on 09.18.15 at 7:28 pm

I won’t be voting for any of those creeps -none of them is running in my riding.
The best we can hope for is a minority government -paralyze the bums!

#83 Ret on 09.18.15 at 7:29 pm

Why bother voting for any of them? If this is the best we have got, what difference will it make anyway? Same leaky ship, different pirates as I see it.

It looks like we will be voting again within a year anyway. Maybe I’ll vote then.

#84 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 7:30 pm

#2: “Most importantly, the next government in Ottawa has to stop relying on a buildup of household debt as a means to keep our economy going.”

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It has to end SOMETIME. Can’t the government get that thru their thick skulls?

#85 VanIsle Retiree on 09.18.15 at 7:32 pm

Corporations can elect to move their business elsewhere if the tax structure there is better, as Garth suggests, OR they can stay and simply increase the cost of their products to the consumer if corporate taxes go up. Remember that companies stay in business when they make money – their income is from sales; their expenses are from making a product and from taxes that they pay. As expenses increase, so also must the price at which they sell their product. So at one level, there is no such thing as corporate taxes – it all ends up being paid by the consumer in the final analysis.

#86 westcdn on 09.18.15 at 7:34 pm

I cannot bring myself to vote for more government and taxes. I think it is time to prioritize and get fewer programs done well. I want Harper to stand down after this coming federal election. He is stale, aristocratic and megalomaniac. He runs the country through his PMO and insists the Conservative government be known as the Harper government. Harper must be bitter about working in a mail room.

I cannot see any evidence that Harper has a succession plan for the Conservative party. I guess he wants to take it down with him.

#87 Kreditanstalt on 09.18.15 at 7:35 pm

The man gives all the signs of being a control freak.

If he were doing it with some aspirations toward shrinking the size an power of government, or with enhancing individual liberty, I could buy it.

But the policies he espouses are essentially no different from those of the other parties. They all rig, manipulate and subsidize. They are all domestic socialists and foreign policy neocons.

What is inchoate, never expressed yet wanted fearfully – for it means less reliance on state subsidies, handouts, cheques, social programs and spending – is a party advocating a smaller government and a free-er Canuckistan.

I think you’re approaching that understanding too.

#88 Mister Obvious on 09.18.15 at 7:35 pm

#59 NewStockCanadian

“(And he better not drop the TFSA!..)”
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He is already on record saying in no uncertain terms that he will drop it. Which part of: “I will take TFSA contribution limit back to $5500” don’t you understand?

#89 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 7:36 pm

#11: “The conservative candidate is Elaine Allan. I’ve read her profile and believe I can live with her even though I know full well that a vote for her is a vote for Stephen Harper.”

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She may be okay. But she’ll tow the party line…or else be ousted. So, what good is she?

#90 espressobob on 09.18.15 at 7:36 pm

It takes guts to step into the ring of un-familiarity. Anyone say, trying to start a business knows the feeling. Becoming an MP is an achievement most of us will never know.

How the hell is that a failure?

#91 rawdiswar on 09.18.15 at 7:38 pm

Doesn’t matter what any of The Three say or do, almost everyone has their mind made up already. It’s like trying to convince a Habs fan that they should actually cheer for the Leafs. Just ain’t gonna happen.

People’s political allegiances are deep and ingrained. It’s all brand recognition at this point.

#92 Slow Canada on 09.18.15 at 7:39 pm

Very disappointing, Garth. Harper has shown utter disregard for our democracy, and I don’t trust him an inch. Prominent MPs have refused to stand by him, including Baird and MacKay.

Trudeau is a breath of fresh air, intelligent, cool, and articulate. If his tax plans aren’t right, then he will adjust. He is not an ideologue.

There is no dilemma. The sun will come up on October 20, and there are some things more important than money.

#93 Julie K. on 09.18.15 at 7:39 pm

Keep your eye on Mr. Glenn Sollitt, Courtney-Alberni Green Party. I’m calling it here first; he will be the next leader of the Green Party taking the federal Greens farther than Ms. May has been able to thus far.

#94 AlbertaGuy on 09.18.15 at 7:40 pm

Can’t say as I could live with myself to vote lib or dip in AB…ever especially after Trudeau#1 and recent dip upset. However, like a correction in the stock market an occasional sea change is required to refresh renew and wash out the speculation, corruption and stagnation.

Sadly, Harpo has the type of personality that will take the ship diwn with him even though everyone on board and on shore can clearly see that a new captain could steer the “Con”cordia away from the rocks.

#95 Greg on 09.18.15 at 7:40 pm

The really good news for Canadians is that it’s looking like a minority government after Oct. 19th. So whomever wins will have to temper their ambitions somewhat. A problem arises if there’s a Tory minority after this extended election as the other two parties will likely be broke and unable to finance another election should they desire to bring the government down. So, that leaves coalition. ?

However this turns out it will be interesting.

In any case, Harpers days are numbered… which makes me very happy.

#96 JSS on 09.18.15 at 7:40 pm

After reading this blog for many years now, I am of the opinion that there is WAY too much government intervention in encouraging house prices to stay inflated. I knew this a while ago, but I’m being official about it to myself.

#97 Sponge on 09.18.15 at 7:41 pm

Old stock (1605 Acadia) and still ABC! And yes, it is a protection ideal to oust the neocon. Trudeau is the man because the other fella is too far Left. $15 minimum wage is pie in the sky… Also, TFSAs at $5000/year for each spouse is enough for most Canadians… The Liberals may put us in debit somewhat but they’re building a Canadian future not a corporate future for us!

How are ‘Canadian’ and ‘corporate’ mutually exclusive? — Garth

#98 Jake Sambell on 09.18.15 at 7:44 pm

People have short memories, during the financial crisis of 2007 to 2008, the NDP and Liberals wanted to do much more deficit spending and piling up way more debt.

I would not be surprised that if the NDP or Liberals or both had their way, we would have much higher taxes and $200 billion or more than Canada’s debt stands today, 825 billion versus $625 billion.

Look at Liberals and NDP like Ontario, B.C. which are about 50% of Canada’s population and their debt levels, high, high, high!

#99 KT on 09.18.15 at 7:44 pm

It appears there needs to be a complete meltdown before we realize neither of our political parties are capable of true progressive change towards a new era of human evolution. Oh and, Garth for PM!

#100 Nora Lenderby on 09.18.15 at 7:45 pm

Voting isn’t easy. I am not expecting perfection. I don’t think any party leader should pretend to be all-knowing. I’d rather consider the entire team that are candidates to be cabinet ministers.

I can’t support what the Conservative party has become; it’s not conservative at all, it’s nasty – a set of little people run by a bully. Proven incompetant administrators, no depth to the current team. Many of the things they have done or not done are seriously regrettable. (Pandering to the worst instincts of the base isn’t the role of government, in my opinion, although it is rewarded until the wheels fall off.)

Mr. Trudeau is too impulsive for my taste, although his heart seems in the right place. On a number of issues (Senate, naughty MPs, C-51) he didn’t behave well and didn’t appear to consult others. (I’d accept “I dunno, but I’ll get back to you” as an answer and think better of the person saying it.) His team seems good though.

Mr. Mulcair seems to have a weaker team. Although a new set of thinking might be a good thing, I expect some flameouts if they take power later on this year. Mr. Mulcair himself appears to be smart and diligent. If, as we think, there are going to to be some painful decisions to be made in the next few years, I’d trust him to be a better man than the other leaders.

I ignore most of the current promises of all parties as the actual room for manoeuvre in any government is very limited. Take them as lists of priorities.

#101 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 7:47 pm

#33: “I am against him for his war on science, whether it is muzzling federal scientists or dumping the long form census….”

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Harper has no business muzzling anyone. And he had no business eliminating the long form census. He’s a damn dictator. Remember he did say we wouldn’t recognize Canada when he gets thru with it?

#102 Retired Boomer - WI on 09.18.15 at 7:49 pm

#26 NICK

Canada be a 51st state? HARDLY – Canadians would never put up with it, and WE would never allow it!

The fact that Harper is a cheap copy of Bush II speaks ill of Harper. (Obama is just following the script as well).

We really have no control over the ‘pre-selected’ limited two party jokes here, if you believe otherwise, you are more delusional than I.

#103 GTAGirl on 09.18.15 at 7:52 pm

Garth, Harper has dismantled safe guards, checks and balances and decimated our institutions. He has put power to spin monsters in PMO. He’s waged war on science, healthcare and veterans.

While I understand your concern for financial portfolio, I must also add, Harper lies. Stats Canada has been cut, information is dodgy, and trying to establish what/how is going on internally in our country is now coming down to wading chest high in propaganda. In order to have strong financial outlook, we need truth and information to weigh and measure our direction.

Let’s hope for a minority govt of Liberal and NDP. Or a coalition. Harper has to be trounced, the party has to be brought to its knees and be punished. We need Royal Commisions and judicial inquiries to all the corruption that this govt has gotten away with. No one even really knows what our financial house really looks like.

Hold them to account. Make the next govt fear voter reprisals. Let’s grow some balls and get angry

#104 nonplussed on 09.18.15 at 7:52 pm

That is a very unfortunate story Garth and you have my sympathies. I wish you were still an MP (would be nice to have 1 good one) and thank you for the service you did provide to our country.

I have a very bad feeling about this election. None of the leaders seem to have any grasp on reality, only varying levels of delusion going from bad with Harper, to delusional with Trudeau, to from another planet where the laws of economics do not apply with Mulcair.

Where is Preston Manning when you need him? Heck I’ll take Joe Clark back at this point. Where are you Joe??? We need you!!!! Brian? Jean even?? Is anybody out there? Can’t we com up with even one decent candidate?

Unfortunately Canadians are going to vote against Harper and not for anything other than pipe dreams. It will end up badly and we won’t be happy with the results. But history is clear: When times are bad, the worst possible leaders rise to power.

All you have to do to understand human nature is spend a little time in minor hockey. People make way too big of a deal out of nothing, are very adept at circumventing rules and common sense to achieve their own objectives, and live by the French phrase that translates “Me first, then the deluge (in other words they don’t care the world be destroyed so long as they get what they want).

#105 Ralph Cramdown on 09.18.15 at 7:52 pm

#74 Daisy Mae — “And that is precisely why they’re elected for only ONE term at provincial levels.”

They’ve managed four in a row in both Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

#106 charles on 09.18.15 at 7:52 pm

So in spite of 10 years of corruption, undermining democracy and parliamentary processes, stifling of science, promotion of the darkest side of the voting public through fear and hate you still choose the Cons based on avarice.
And you call Dr. Paul a nutbar.

Half right. — Garth

#107 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 7:53 pm

#41: “Well if the status quo isn’t working perhaps a change is needed. Personally I have no problem with deficit spending on infrastructure because at least the country will get something from it. Unlike Harpers’ massive debt which has given us nothing.”

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Well said.

#108 Tanya on 09.18.15 at 7:53 pm

If you want to vote against Harper, but don’t fully, completely endorse another party, refuse your ballot. State your name at the polling station, get your ballot, and hand it back. They will record this (spoiled or damaged ballots are not recorded).

It’s the democratic equivalent of voting ‘none of the above’. It will result in the rest of the majority electing someone on your behalf, but at least it’s honest.

#109 Realtor007 on 09.18.15 at 7:54 pm

Let me tell you all about a tyrant, I was born under a communist state run by a tyrant dictator for three decades, I watched my father being dragged out of our apartment at midnight by secret police because he was summoned to do work for the dictator, no, my father was not a criminal, he was a construction worker who had to do what he was told at a drop of a hat like every other citizen, I remember standing in line with my mother for 2 hours so we can buy a loaf of bread, I remember as a family of 4 we were allowed 2 pounds of beef for the entire month. You want a banana or an orange you say? forget it, there is none. When you were on the bus, train or a library you can bet there was secret police agent in civilian clothing hanging out for one purpose, to listen in on conversations, if you said something about the state you were dragged away and depending on what you said you may not be found again. This is tyranny.

Comparing Harper to a tyrant is a slap in the face to people who actually lived under one. Harper has been in office since 06, people always have this idea that the grass is greener on the other side, once they get there they find it’s actually brown, this is what this election is about. Tyranny…smh

#110 Trojan House on 09.18.15 at 7:54 pm

Garth,

It is interesting that your views are pretty much conservative, however, from reading the comments on this blog now for a while, most of the people who comment (perhaps not read, but comment) are either centre-left or left wing socialists!

I guess people’s true colours come out in an election.

#111 Sponge on 09.18.15 at 7:55 pm

Not mutually exclusive Garth, but in priority sense. Canadian values in this government have diminished as of late.. My ideals on corporations easement will not come at a cost of defeating our generational values that we have grown to believe in..

#112 Smartalox on 09.18.15 at 7:55 pm

@ #59 New Stock:
Last night on CBC’s The National, Andrew Coyne muttered an interesting point about Trudeau’s performance: he wondered if Trudeau wasn’t playing the role of the ‘angry man’ in an attempt to resonate with those voters who are angry with Stephen Harper, themselves.

It has the potential to be shrill and overly dramatic (particularly in the hands of a ham like Trudeau) but an option for differentiating himself from Mulcair, particularly because Mulcair has adopted this pasted-on smile that I personally find terrifying.

Mulcair got a lot of attention in the house for cross-examining the government with prosecutorial zeal, but has inexplicably abandoned that strength, for a posture that is clearly uncomfortable for him.

Trudeau is better at playing the angry man, the fighter, than Mulcair is at playing the friendly, considerate and paternal figure.

Why did ‘le Bon Jack’ do so well in Quebec in the last election? Why did Chretien? Because they both presented themselves as scrappers – guys who reflected the passions of the people, and galvanized the crowds, Layton with a mastery of Quebecois Joual, and Chretien with his ‘little guy from Shawinigan’ routine.

If Trudeau can harness that undercurrent of anger from people fed up with the current regime, he may well sweep into power.

#113 it's all about the hair... on 09.18.15 at 7:58 pm

now that’s all fine and dandy but 2 votes here (myself and wife) for the libs, at least he’s got a younger perspective and his hair doesn’t suck….

and on top of that the US economy is looking kinda ‘sucky’…

pissed I didn’t get my relief rally so now I’ll just get pissed…

oh and Garth are you one of those 1%’ers? or close at least you old dog…

#114 Nora Lenderby on 09.18.15 at 7:59 pm

#290 Freedom First on 09.18.15 at 3:41 pm
Whining, self pity, and name calling. Traits of the modern feminists…

Name-calling yourself, Mr. FF? An expert on “modern feminism” are you?

Any other things that women should do or not do to meet with your approval?

#115 Washed Up Lawyer on 09.18.15 at 8:00 pm

I am prepared to excuse PMSH for saying “old-stock Canadians”. He simply misspoke.

The talking point he was actually told to use was “old drunk Canadians”. As a member of the demographic that forms his base, I am in complete agreement that I, having spent the last 40 years assiduously ruining my health, should have first claim on health care dollars.

On civil liberty issues, I am less forgiving.

#116 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 8:00 pm

#45: “I think what troubles me the most about your story today is the disrespect shown towards your wife by the PM. Must still hurt…I know it would still bother me.”

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It was childish behavior and Dorothy can understand that. Unbecoming of a PRIME MINISTER of Canada. But what can you expect from Harper?

#117 it's all about the hair... on 09.18.15 at 8:03 pm

#9, try zerohedge for some perspective to the MSM, some rousing articles posted there (take it with a grain of salt). A lot of it is very thought provoking….

#118 Cp on 09.18.15 at 8:04 pm

Canada should be a better country with more compassion. We shouldn’t be lead by haters and doomers. I’m with the anyone but Harper camp. A little socialism doesn’t seem to hurt Northern Europe. We should be as compassionate.

#119 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 8:04 pm

#51: “We already see signs that the Alberta NDP won’t get re-elected at the provincial level in 2019, so far they aren’t impressing anyone.”

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Yes. Always this way — one term, and that’s enuf!

#120 Leaving Cowtown on 09.18.15 at 8:06 pm

As a transplant from Alberta, I know Harper well.

After the debate, I have now shifted and I think many others will too.

Trudeau is flawed. But he knows it, and his party has the most depth of any, by far.

Harper is pathological, not really very bright, and morally a thug. His team is substantially inferior and embarrasses all of us as Canadians.

Trudeau does something, he inspires a bit in his own way.

I’ll take a chance on him.

This is not the time to double down on evil.

#121 Old Stock Country Girl on 09.18.15 at 8:10 pm

Re: Alberta
Harper (and Garth) blames NDP for increasing taxes in Alberta. A fact check showed that Tories would have increased them too:

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/09/16/fact-check-tories-were-going-to-increase-taxes-in-alberta-too/

#122 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 8:11 pm

#54: “So in reality some of the more controversial aspects and promises made during this campaign will be shelved or adjusted/stunted to be more tasteful. So in reality the next govt. of Canada being a minority one IMO will walk tenderly on issues.”

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Exactly!

#123 SWL1976 on 09.18.15 at 8:12 pm

Great post Garth.

I understand that we do not always agree, nor should we, and I just want to say that I truly appreciate all that you have done and continue to do for democracy and freedom of speech here in Canada.

Thank you

I can honestly say that I don’t agree with any of the party platforms, and am still undecided on my final vote. However, I do know that I feel like Harper has embarrassed me as a Canadian citizen many times on the world stage as leader of our country. Harper has lied to us, prorogued parliament many times when he has not gotten his way. There is a plethora of corruption and shady deals surrounding him, and his party.

Harper acts like democracy is a thorn in his side, and in my opinion he has to go. Now I understand voting him out will not lead to a democratic utopia, but I also know letting him stay will send a message that he can do as he pleases. He has proven to us that he cannot be trusted and he is clearly not on the side of the average Canadian.

He is a lackey to the globalists and it’s disgusting to watch.

It’s a messy situation right now on the global stage, and none of the parties have a proven, or guaranteed strategy for success. However, the Harper led conservatives have proven to us that they are poor managers of the economy, they cannot be trusted, and they will lie cheat and steal to get their way.

I feel like Canada’s relationship with Harper is a low point in our Nation’s history.

He is, and has been a very poor representative for this great Nation.

#124 Hair Helmet, Mascara, Blush and Lipstick - What's Not to Like!? on 09.18.15 at 8:13 pm

Harper’s a man’s man.

Deep down we men all want a taxpayer-funded beautician to spruce us up.

Nothing weird about that at all.

And when he acts like a prick to you, Garth, at least he looks really good doing it :)

#125 Dave on 09.18.15 at 8:13 pm

Our riding (West Van-Sea to Sky) has a great MP (John Weston, Conservative) who represents the whole riding. Even the Mayor and counsel (mostly NDP) of our town thinks he’s good. There’s no reason to vote for anyone else.

People should vote for the best MP! Not the party leader. Vote for the person who will work the hardest to represent the riding. Our riding learned the hard way when Blair Wilson (Lib) was elected in 2006. People voted for the national party and got a bad MP who nobody could get ahold of and even had the audacity to consider putting his name in for party leader after only being an MP for a year. Then the Province investigated some ethical issues, and he resigned the caucus. Even the liberals hated him.

Vote for the best MP in your riding, not the national party!

#126 Alberta wing-nuts on 09.18.15 at 8:14 pm

I’m voting Fantino cause he optimizes the cons being in the business of crime but just off the edge so that lawyers can always save him… This is where I think Canada should be going and forget Economics. Harper and his secretive criminal edglings is where the US’s Canada is headed under the Harper doctrine. The economy isn’t everything Garth but what you can do with crime, well that sets the stage for all things otherwise….

#127 Joe2.0 on 09.18.15 at 8:15 pm

Australia to start printing money with in a year.
Anyone see a pattern here?
Race to the bottom.

#128 Daisy Mae on 09.18.15 at 8:19 pm

#55: “The man is corroding our democracy. I don’t believe the robocalls were the work of a single, rogue low-level employee. The handbook on how to delay and obstruct the work of parliamentary committees was low. The flouting of campaign finance laws, and the neutering of Elections Canada. The voter ID law is US style voter suppression. The omnibus bills, the use of cloture to limit debate, prorogation, the contempt for question period, and for the press. The continuous use of government funds for what are essentially Conservative party ads. The appointment of unqualified or immoral people to cabinet, the senate, the judiciary, the PMO and the civil service.”

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HOW did Harper get away with this? Please explain — someone, anyone — how the ‘vote of NON- CONFIDENCE’ works? And WHY was it not ever implemented?

#129 Nora Lenderby on 09.18.15 at 8:19 pm

#101 Retired Boomer – WI on 09.18.15 at 7:49 pm
#26 NICK
Canada be a 51st state? HARDLY – Canadians would never put up with it, and WE would never allow it!

Just as well. The last thing you guys need is another 30 million Democrats.

#130 Freedom First on 09.18.15 at 8:33 pm

Garth, I was aware of everything you said today, except about Dorothy. How disgustingly childish.

That being said, I will say again what I wrote here recently. Both the NDP and the Liberals missed a “Golden Opportunity” to oust Harper for sure, but instead, made his Party look better than theirs. Dilemma is the perfect word.

#131 West Coast on 09.18.15 at 8:34 pm

http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/2008/HarperRecord/The_Harper_Record.pdf
….consider the 8 years since this report was published (Garth is mentioned)….do we really deserve more of the same? ………Behind our Prime Minister I see only ‘bobble-heads’…..personally I’ve had enough of Harperland – my vote will definitely not be for the conservatives………

#132 Country Girl on 09.18.15 at 8:35 pm

“All three parties, sadly, are catering to house lust”

But none more than SH who expressed feeling proud about record high home ownership rates and promised higher RRSP withdrawal limits for first time home buyers as well as renovation tax credits. Elizabeth May tweeted that we need to pierce the housing bubble and also focus on homelessness.

#133 Free the individual on 09.18.15 at 8:38 pm

Through taxation, pacifists are forced at gunpoint to pay for foreign wars; vegetarians are forced at gunpoint to subsidize grazing land for cattle; nonsmokers are forced at gunpoint to support both the production of tobacco and the research to counter its impact on health. Through taxation we forcibly impose our will on others in an attempt to control their choices. That’s why I’m voting libertarian. When people are ready, change will happen. Right now, most people want liberty for themselves, but not for their neighbor.

#134 Keith in Calgary on 09.18.15 at 8:41 pm

On a RE related note…………

Drove down the old island highway 1A today between Nanaimo and Comox.

100 KM of distance according to the highway sign……an all coastal roadway winding thru those beautiful little picture postcard towns and roadside B+B’s that Vancouver Island is made of.

I counted 117 real estate for sale signs……….in 100 KM.

#135 bigtown on 09.18.15 at 8:41 pm

Canada is a mediocre country. Nothwithstanding this excellent blog I am deeply disturbed least by the Harper posse and totally alienated from Trudeau and Muclair. Trudeau is in love with himself…and really what is not to like? Good Hair. Photographic. Jumps on every politically correct horse in town. Muclair is wishy washy and has a lot in that closet.

Our mediocrity will come to the resuce again and the boring status quo will keep us from doing too much damage so wear your niqab and enjoy your poutine just be careful about that gravy.

#136 Almontage on 09.18.15 at 8:44 pm

I have a lot of respect for you, Mr. Turner – voted for you every chance I got and supported you financially last time when I couldn’t vote in your riding.
I deeply appreciate the courage it took to write today’s post.
I won’t be voting for Mr. Harper’s party although it won’t matter – the Conservative candidate here (Scott Reid) will get 60% of the vote anyway.

#137 souvereigninternational on 09.18.15 at 8:49 pm

I agree with all you have said, Garth, except “The GST should never have been cut”. The GST should have never been there in the first place. The taxes were already too high pre-GST. And I hope you suggest we vote NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Taxing consumption rather than just income is progressive and fair. — Garth

#138 For those about to flop... on 09.18.15 at 8:50 pm

I live in the Vancouver Kingsway riding and all I see is a whole lot of orange . I couldn’t even tell you who the other candidates are ,I doesn’t bother me any way as I am not wasting my time to vote.
I moved to this country to be with my wife not to waste time on three rats who wouldn’t grab a bucket of water if I was on fire .
Message to politicians : You are elected to serve the general population ,not the general population is there to serve you.
Whoever wins I will adapt…

#139 cd on 09.18.15 at 8:52 pm

I predict that the election results in a very fractured minority government where nothing will happen. Harper will stay put and there won’t be any new policies/laws since it will be impossible to reach a consensus.

#140 Tony on 09.18.15 at 8:53 pm

Re: #27 Keith in Calgary on 09.18.15 at 6:09 pm

His old man gave everything to the French. If not for Trudeau Canada may well have never ran any deficits. We have no choice of anything so we have to shop cross border thanks to Trudeau. Don’t do it!!

#141 Lorne on 09.18.15 at 8:54 pm

#10 S.Bby on 09.18.15 at 5:43 pm
Here’s the way I see it: better the devil you know than the devil you don’t. Harper is a prick, no question, but we gotta look at the bigger picture of how much damage have the Cons done (or will continue to do) vs. what the other guys will perpetrate on Canada. So I will hold my nose and vote Conservative for another term.
……….
You’ve got to be kidding! Maybe before you do so you might want to glance at the following list:

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/

#142 Nagraj on 09.18.15 at 8:56 pm

I feel compelled to compliment #21 GULF BREEZE on the language he used, “proto-fascist”, “Anglo-American axis of weevils”, “cabal of book-burning bootlickers” and then he tops it off with the Bush quote “read my lips”. Substance aside, Gulf Breeze has talent. (Reminds me of the Saskatoonstabber and the erstwhile Alberta Is Finished.

Also loved Washed Up Lawyer’s read of “old stock” as “old drunk”.

Where are the simple joys of maidenhood?

#143 Smoking Man on 09.18.15 at 8:59 pm

You know you are absolutely losing your mind when this is your favorite song in the whole wide world.

DARK GLOBE by Sid

https://youtu.be/xEr6w7P44Nk

Oh where are you now
pussy willow that smiled on this leaf?
When I was alone you promised the stone from your heart
my head kissed the ground
I was half the way down, treading the sand
please, please, lift a hand
I’m only a person whose armbands beat
on his hands, hang tall
won’t you miss me?
Wouldn’t you miss me at all?

The poppy birds way
swing twigs coffee brands around
brandish her wand with a feathery tongue
my head kissed the ground
I was half the way down, treading the sand
please, please, please lift the hand
I’m only a person with Eskimo chain
I tattooed my brain all the way…
Won’t you miss me?
Wouldn’t you miss me at all?

#144 rainclouds on 09.18.15 at 9:02 pm

#119 Leaving Cowtown

Bingo

Thank you for your service to Canada Mr. Harper

Now leave

#145 David McDonald on 09.18.15 at 9:08 pm

Great post Garth!

The blog dogs have covered some of the damage to our institutions. I will add the facts that our foreign policy has become the sum of Harper’s prejudices. The Bank of Canada has become Harper’s poodle and government support for the knowledge economy has become job training for the oil industry. The list goes on and on.

While I applaud true conservative policies like the TFSA and pension splitting I am voting Liberal as the best way to remove Harper.

#146 tundra pete on 09.18.15 at 9:09 pm

The parliamentary bully and his squad of democratic pedophiles. I think we may have seen the end of them. Harper is all things a lot of us don’t want.

Question remains, what now?

#147 mauro on 09.18.15 at 9:10 pm

hi, can people vote blank or do a protest vote in a federal election in Canada?

No one is representing us…

#148 mauro on 09.18.15 at 9:13 pm

btw, congrats to Garth for trying to bring a change with digital democracy to Canada.

Obviously power and privilege is afraid of democracy by definition, so even though they speak of democracy, they loathe it in practice. They will get away with whatever we let them get away with.

#149 Linda on 09.18.15 at 9:16 pm

This election is about more than money & who would give the most monetary breaks out of the 3 parties mentioned. It is about what we want as Canadians. I for one do not want a further erosion of my rights & freedoms, unbridled CSIS oversight, omnibus bills, the muzzling of science, mistreatment of veterans etc. Mr. Harper has got to go & while the Conservative Party MIGHT be the best bet overall, I can’t vote for it given who is leading it or the actions it has been committing. It is all very well to say the party should not be punished for actions taken by Mr. Harper, but Mr. Harper is not doing this alone. His caucus is voting to implement the measures being introduced. And it has long since been proven that ‘just obeying orders’ is not an excuse for the indefensible.

As for the money angle, well, your own blog pointed out recently that 93% of all the nearly 12 million TFSA’s in Canada are not maxed. So the reversing of the $10,000 limit back to $5,500 or even $5,000 won’t really matter if the people who have those accounts are not making use of the ‘extra’ room, since they aren’t making use of the room they already have. Further, the entire TFSA limit issue may not be an issue. Election promises – easy to make, often not kept. Even if they are kept in this case, also easy enough to become the fairy godmother in turn & promise to raise TFSA limits ‘once the budget is balanced’ – it worked for the Conservatives, after all.

As for taxes, if Canada is going to follow the lead of the USA & do quantitive easing of our own, tax increases are going to occur no matter who wins this unduly long & expensive election. Have to say, it is difficult to have any faith that electing the Conservatives is good fiscal policy given that this election did not need to be this lengthy or this expensive. Actions speak louder than words & all those promises mean nothing unless or until they are actually implemented. Meanwhile, what I see is yet another Conservative leader flinging money about like a drunken sailor, while proclaiming how fiscally prudent it would be to keep them in power. Sorry, don’t buy the act & am in fact offended by it.

#150 Gulf Breeze on 09.18.15 at 9:18 pm

#79 Trojan House,

“Gulf Breeze, you are an idiot.”

It’s a shame that Harper likely falls short of your expectations. Shame the honorable Donald Trump isn’t running for PM. You speak the same language.

#151 TRT on 09.18.15 at 9:21 pm

Garth, you lucky it was 2010? and not 1510….

It would have been your head.

Now, why do you endorse the conservatives if its the SAME people in power?

The NDP are Cons in Sheeps clothing….designed to take votes away from Trudeau. Talking with a friend who works in MSM, he was saying that they have been told to give the NDP full coverage. You may say WTF but the smart people know why.

#152 Smoking Man on 09.18.15 at 9:22 pm

Tomorrow when I’m sobar…you commies are mine..

Your going to get schooled….

Garth tks for losing my earlier post, giving up my location, ive been warned on twitter that a band of fat mean killer lesbians are in a van and looking for me…

They have a big set of scissors..

Fk..

Why cant i just shut up…

#153 Marco on 09.18.15 at 9:22 pm

Thanks Garth,

“I think the housing story is a very positive story in this country,” Harper said. “You know, you look around the world where they have seen all these crashes, a lot of them centred around the housing market. In Canada, we have seen home ownership rise to record levels.”

He forgot to mention how and why, and the wall that is getting closer.

More:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-debate-housing-1.3234546

Cheers.

#154 iRent on 09.18.15 at 9:23 pm

Hi Garth,

Since not all of us understand the economic plans that well, could you explain what is wrong with Liberal’s plan to stimulate economy by investing in growth. Is it better to continue the Real Estate mania with 70k RRSP money for down payments and renovation credit?

Thanks as always for creating awareness through your blog.

#155 Bill MacMurdo on 09.18.15 at 9:26 pm

Thanks for the up close and personal information re: Harper. An eye opener. You are too kind. Really. The Liberals had a good run from 1993 to 2006 so I will give them another chance. Enough.

#156 John in Mtl on 09.18.15 at 9:27 pm

Hum… I wonder if PM Harper reads this blog once in a while for tactical advantage (gotta know your citizens to better screw them); his shills probably do. And so should he, just so he knows exactly how Canadians feel about what he has done to this country.

Sir Garth, you’re too reasonable and speak too much common sense – you make a lousy politician! Harpo’s loss and our win.

#157 Setting the Record Straight on 09.18.15 at 9:29 pm

Remember
“The lesser evil is not necessarily marginally acceptable.”

If you vote you can’t complain about the results!

#158 Setting the Record Straight on 09.18.15 at 9:32 pm

From yesterday
#210 savers are punished on 09.17.15 at 11:46 pm
“Savers are punished.”

Not really.

They are just not rewarded, the same way as they used to be.

But nothing is guaranteed, why would “savers” be different?

Welcome to the club.

$$$$$$$$
You miss the point. If a free market was setting rates there would be nothing to complain about.

But it’s not! A few individuals are setting and influencing rates, as well as the money supply. We are supplicants bowing before the party commissars.

#159 John in Mtl on 09.18.15 at 9:34 pm

#147 mauro on 09.18.15 at 9:13 pm
Obviously power and privilege is afraid of democracy by definition, so even though they speak of democracy, they loathe it in practice. They will get away with whatever we let them get away with.

THAT rings so true!!

#160 souvereigninternational on 09.18.15 at 9:34 pm

Taxing consumption rather than just income is progressive and fair. — Garth

It is better than taxing so called income (as in wages) I agree. I’m in favor of user fees, though. Taxing sales only is not fair to lower and middle classes who spend the biggest percentage of their income. And if we are going to print money we may as well give guaranteed income to all citizens and get rid of welfare and UI. than we can use flat tax that is equal for both human and corporate persons. We might as well have Swiss type referendums while we are at it. I would most likely vote Action Party or Libertarian if they were viable options. We should always be able to say None of The above on the balot or not vote/do not participate if we don’t like the way our system is set up. Voting in this election is like choosing between Obama/Bush/Kerry/McCain/Trump/Hillary etc. you get the drift.

#161 Kg on 09.18.15 at 9:36 pm

Which part of debate did Muclair support house lust ?

#162 Setting the Record Straight on 09.18.15 at 9:36 pm

@42
how can you vote FOR environmental apathy and against democracy and freedom of speech?
&&&&&&&
Have you forgotten the Human Rights Commission. Remember their view that freedom of speech was an American viewpoint?

#163 souvereigninternational on 09.18.15 at 9:37 pm

one more thing progressive (as in taxation) is never fair because it is not equal.

#164 eddy on 09.18.15 at 9:37 pm

Taxing consumption rather than just income is progressive and fair. — Garth

but the income was already taxed
this is double dipping

#165 VICTORIA TEA PARTY on 09.18.15 at 9:39 pm

TO: ST. GARTH OF “SOME THINGS ARE FORGIVEN, MAYBE”.

I see why you have bad memories of your time as a worthy member of Parliament and an excellent cabinet minister.

Before you were turfed so cruelly, and very “ceremoniously”, you had accomplished something truly magnificent for average Canadians: introducing and overseeing the implementation of our glorious TFSA.

Of all things Parliament has done over the years, doing something so significant for all Canadians is what you’ll be personally and fondly remembered for. And that’s good.

It is a marvellous legacy and few of us had any idea, at that time, just how important the TFSA would become. Even some financial analysts were making fun of it back then.

Not now.

I know you have just stopped short of endorsing Mr. Harper. I can see that to do so would be asking a lot. I get it. Few would make that request.

But, as you note often, these are not normal economic times.

And they’re not going to be normal for a very long time to come, anywhere.

World-wide economic growth is slow and in the mmerging market countries growth is nonexistent, causing great disclocation and deprivation for people there.

We can see that our financial futures are murky.

So any advantage that ordinary Canadians can use to protect themselves is critical now.

The Opposition parties promise to chop TFSA contributions in half because the “rich” are the only ones who can afford to contribute up to 10 Gs a year.

What utterly fallacious, mean spirited crap!

I get your attitude towards Mr. Harper. A few others have seen similar outcomes.

But, to repeat, dallying with the NDP and Libs at this time is fraught with too much personal family risk for too many voters.

It took a great deal of guts for you to write your column of this date, St. Garth. Good on you!

#166 Setting the Record Straight on 09.18.15 at 9:44 pm

“Con. supporters, remember Harper was so toxic, that he blew up his relationship with your man of the 90’s Preston Manning, so bad than Manning threw him out of the Reform party and if I recall has never forgiven him and his callous, conceited actions while Harper served under him back in the day.”

Manning has gone over to the dark side.

#167 Setting the Record Straight on 09.18.15 at 9:47 pm


Its sad we can’t have a leader like Ron Paul that all Candians could be proud to have as prime minister.We have to settle for the lesser of three evils.Just don’t vote”

+1

#168 No Debt on 09.18.15 at 9:49 pm

Ahh, how soon we forget. It’s a pretty safe bet this election is going to produce a minority government. How many remember just how dysfunctional minority governments can be?

This one is going to be a dandy….

#169 Keen Reader on 09.18.15 at 9:51 pm

Best outcome is a minority ABC government. Get H out, let the minority’s first budget fail, then hope the resulting shakedown will deliver more palatable choices in an early return to the polls! Wishing thinking, methinks…

#170 Setting the Record Straight on 09.18.15 at 9:53 pm

“particularly restore funding to the CBC so they can return to their former glory.”

You think taxing the populace to support a state run media corporation catering to the left leaning civil service represents is a contribution to freedom?

Let the listeners fund the CBC

#171 DJG on 09.18.15 at 10:00 pm

I truly don’t understand the line of thinking that somehow the sum of the tory parts adds up to something credible. The upper echelons are full of intellectual lightweights and toadying yes-men. The average tory MP these days is a populist fool with no grasp at all of economics or geopolitics. No serious economist has even 30 seconds to waste on the farcical notion that this group understands how to run the federal finances.

I’ve met many tory MPs. The best most can do is mouth platitudes about “keeping us safe” or draw analogies between running government and managing the family budget.

There is just no basis for Garth’s suggestion that a vote against Harper would be satisfying but irrational. A vote for the Liberals is probably just as bad, but as much as I never thought I would say it, the NDP will actually try and be innovative and do the right thing on many levels.

Keep in mind, too, that it’s not like the US where a progressive President can be crushed by the idiocracy of congress. A Prime Minister with a majority can get a lot done (in Harper’s case, almost all of it regressive and serving only a particularly nasty ideology). So let’s try an NDP majority and see if some good things can get done for a change.

#172 Keen Reader on 09.18.15 at 10:04 pm

Wishful, oops!

#173 MSM-Free Zone on 09.18.15 at 10:05 pm

“……The other day Dorothy reminded me the only time she’d been to 24 Sussex – to attend a caucus event for spouses – Mr. Harper turned his back on her……”
_________________________

Ditto for Flora McDonald (another classy lady) after her passing.

After reading your first eight paragraphs, I thought you were going to show more backbone than that, GT.

As far as I’m concerned, that spineless, hypocritical, sociopathic narcissist of a maggot and his fellow ebola viruses will be toast in a month, regardless of the next four years of discomfort or temporary loss of personal tax shelter. Hopefully, thereafter, a true (c)onservative government will follow up.

To paraphrase an old Buckley’s Mixture ad, “It tasted awful, but it worked”.

#174 Nomad on 09.18.15 at 10:06 pm

Even on BNN guests are voicing their concerns for Canada:

“There are difficulties in Canada with personal debt loads. When housing values go down, which it will, the debt loads will still be there. If interest rates go up a couple of percents a lot of people are going to have tremendous difficulty paying their debts. Thinks we are in a bit of a fool’s paradise right now.”

– Benj Gallander

#175 souvereigninternational on 09.18.15 at 10:10 pm

#122 SWL1976 on 09.18.15 at 8:12 pm
#132 Free the individual on 09.18.15 at 8:38 pm
#107 Tanya on 09.18.15 at 7:53 pm
#105 charles on 09.18.15 at 7:52 pm
#84 VanIsle Retiree on 09.18.15 at 7:32 pm
#53 BC Guy on 09.18.15 at 6:43 pm
#1 HB on 09.18.15 at 5:01 pm

You get my UP vote / like

#176 Linda Pearson on 09.18.15 at 10:11 pm

A week or so ago a blogger under the pseudonym “Sorry, I’ve had enough” posted to this forum the following:
I simply can’t justify a $5k increase in my TFSA contribution limit for

• four more years of contempt of parliament
• contempt for democracy
• contempt for our Charter of Rights
• contempt for the Supreme Court
• vote-rigging
• voter suppression
• muzzling back-benchers
• muzzling science
• snubbing first ministers conferences
• gutting Statistics Canada
• faking balanced budgets
• record national debt
• unaffordable home ownership
• hypocritical hidden omnibus bills
• character assassinations
• auditing opposing think tanks and charities
• photo-opping with overseas veterans then
• throwing returning wounded veterans under a bus
• Action Plans that don’t exist
• faking free-market principles
• gutting Canadian middle class wages with Temporary Foreign Workers
• abandoning peace-keeping in favour of putting targets on Canadians backs
• bombarding Canadians with perpetual daily fear-mongering and frightfully misleading attack ads

To which others have added since:

• lack of respect for the Constitution wrt the Senate
• poor judgment when selecting Senators
• obstruction of justice wrt to Wright et al
• profligate spending of OUR money for partisan ads

I personally am nowhere near to inclusion in the 1% and have no prospect of becoming so. I truly believe that many of the Liberals’ proposed changes are not an unreasonable price to pay in order to return to the Canada I’ve always loved and was proud of. Once in power, any other of the 3 parties must and will be governed by “the books” as they find them so many of the most preposterous planks in their platforms will fall by the wayside. Those whose oxen are likely to be gored the most will be loud and angry enough that ways will be found to quietly set aside the most objectionable of the proposed changes.

Con supporters, life WILL go on after October 19th; but better.

#177 Adrian on 09.18.15 at 10:14 pm

So Stephen Harper’s not perfect? You don’t say, Garth?

#178 Frank on 09.18.15 at 10:17 pm

So Garth, are you still going to vote?

#179 Nora Lenderby on 09.18.15 at 10:20 pm

#18 Vancouver Troy on 09.18.15 at 5:52 pm
I never had kids. Don’t want to pay for someone else’s. Voting Cons

I hate to break it to you, but you are probably paying for other people’s children already. EI for mat. & pat. leave, property/provincial taxes for education and health care, and yes, federal taxes to make up for all the tax credit goodies handed out by the federal govt (including recent cheques and promises of more).

The good thing about a national daycare policy is that it will make it affordable for many women with children to go to work if they want to. (Presently some complain that the cost of daycare means they might as well not work). This will probably benefit the economy as a whole, although the costs will be significant.

Plus it should create a number of additional jobs – wiping the noses and bums of the little darlings.

#180 Leo Trollstoy on 09.18.15 at 10:22 pm

Trudeau is a clown. Definitely not voting Liberal

#181 souvereigninternational on 09.18.15 at 10:24 pm

good info here on what gold is from nutbars at AE:

http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/09/gold-follow-the-yellow-brick-road/

on Land Value Tax

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-03/to-fight-inequality-tax-land

#182 Leo Trollstoy on 09.18.15 at 10:24 pm

#175 Linda Pearson on 09.18.15 at 10:11 pm

Those all sound like biased anecdotes. None of them concern me. I’ll take the extra $5k TFSA room. Thanks!

#183 Boombust on 09.18.15 at 10:25 pm

I am SICK of the fear-mongering about voting for the NDP.

I have no qualms at all about casting my ballot for them; it is time for a REAL change in this country.

Oh, and Harper is more than “disliked” by many people…I hope that psychopathic creep gets thrown out on his ass.

#184 Sean on 09.18.15 at 10:28 pm

One of your best posts ever… adding your personal experiences in politics is a real treat to read. As an expat, I won’t be voting, but I did catch a few clips of the debate over the internet. You make a good point… you really can’t just vote against something, b/c you yourself have to live with the consequences. Given a crappy set of choices, you just have to hold your nose, and go ahead and vote in your own self interest. In this case, lower taxes and the ability to save and invest tax-free. Mulcair actually sounds fairly reasonable and statesman-like… and I suppose Trudeau would project a young and vibrant image of Canada internationally.. but as you point out, their ideological bent, both of them, are frankly an insult to any self reliant adult.

It’s a pity you weren’t on the ballot, but frankly I don’t get sense you would really want that, nor would most Canadians be ready.. Oh well, maybe one day.

#185 Henry Rearden on 09.18.15 at 10:31 pm

Harper ain’t perfect but the other two are big government morons. If they get elected, you better get used to another hand reaching into your pocket for every cent you have. Comrade Mulcair is a wee bit creepy and Justin should get back to drama class. Both will be an utter disaster for Canada.

#186 kommykim on 09.18.15 at 10:32 pm

RE:At a volatile time when the economy is staggering along in technical recession, with record debt and unhappy job prospects, that’s a dubious premise.

So why would we vote for the guy/party that led us to this point? The USA has pulled through this under Obama and solved way worse problems, yet Canada lags far behind under the stewardship of the CONs.
The only reason to vote for Harper and the CONs is if you are a masochist.

#187 MSM-Free Zone on 09.18.15 at 10:33 pm

#175 Linda Pearson on 09.18.15 at 10:11 pm
_________________________

That was me, Linda.

My list has now grown to 120 obnoxious items in total, and, thanks to our Prime Manipulator, continues to grow daily (…..’old stock Canadians’…..).

Perhaps, some day closer to October 19th, I’ll post the entire list on why this country desperately needs a reset.

#188 Henry Rearden on 09.18.15 at 10:33 pm

PS – you think Harper is a control freak? Just think if Comrade Mulcair gets into office. He will want to control every aspect of your life down to the drapes on your windows. His failed socialist policies are working just great in Venezuela.

#189 Boombust on 09.18.15 at 10:35 pm

#26

Bang on, Nick.

I always figured Harper’s OTHER job, apart from his PM “front” is as the CIA Bureau Chief in Ottawa.

#190 kommykim on 09.18.15 at 10:38 pm

RE: #82 Ret on 09.18.15 at 7:29 pm
Why bother voting for any of them?

Sounds like you have decided to let someone else decide.

#191 kommykim on 09.18.15 at 10:41 pm

RE: #84 VanIsle Retiree on 09.18.15 at 7:32 pm
OR they can stay and simply increase the cost of their products to the consumer if corporate taxes go up.

Maybe that’s a better way of stoking inflation than trying to lower interest rates.

#192 Ralph Cramdown on 09.18.15 at 10:42 pm

#157 Setting the Record Straight — “You miss the point. If a free market was setting rates there would be nothing to complain about.”

A free market IS setting rates, and savers are part of it. Nothing obliges them to keep their savings in any particular currency or asset class (even precious metals), or to lend them to a particular government, bank or private entity.

Savers are always complaining. If not about interest rates then about inflation, tax rates on the interest they receive, foreign exchange rates, government debt affecting the above in the future, etcetera etcetera. They’ve been writing books about it for hundreds of years. And every decade’s savers think it was easier in the old days.

#193 Ken on 09.18.15 at 10:44 pm

I appreciate your honesty Garth, Canadians need more officials willing to take a stand such as yourself, As a small fish in this large pond it has become crystal clear what Harper’s policy’s have done, absolutely no insight or educated decisions coming from this government, as the old saying goes absolute power corrupts even the most honest men.

#194 TurnerNation on 09.18.15 at 10:46 pm

Ja the elite Party faithful are rewarded. Expect relentless electricity cost hikes for this 200 year old technology.
Being siphoned off to pet causes.

Some things never will change: poor folks huddled around a single heater or candle. Senior shivering. Cannot afford heat. 200 years ago then today.
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Ontario Hydro One executives receive robust raises ahead of IPO
The Globe and Mail – 13 hours ago
The Ontario government is giving the chief executive officer of Hydro One a hefty raise – up to $4-million annually – as it moves to privatize the massive electricity company.
New Hydro One boss’s pay packet a shock to some Toronto Star
Hydro One sale poised to go ahead amid choppy markets, opposition objections Financial Post

#195 entropic entity on 09.18.15 at 10:47 pm

Garth, how much money would you need to have so that you wouldn’t feel the need to vote for a domineering megalomaniac who has insulted you and your family?

I can handle insults. Even yours. — Garth

#196 pwn3d on 09.18.15 at 10:52 pm

There’s no dilemma. Only an idiot would vote for JT. He can’t even parrot the party lines very well and has no original thoughts. If his last name wasn’t T, he’d be a barista right now.

Next Mulcair. He’s lying about the economics of his platform. That’s a problem because either he drops the expensive stuff which has base will hate, or it’s the tom’s tiny tax time show. I think I know which one he’ll pick.

So Harper wins, again.

#197 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.18.15 at 10:57 pm

So just out of curiosity…did you know that Canada’s system was an elected party leader dictatorship when you ran for office in hopes of effecting change?

#198 April. on 09.18.15 at 11:01 pm

Isn’t this the Stockholm Syndrome?

#199 Hawk on 09.18.15 at 11:05 pm

#90 rawdiswar on 09.18.15 at 7:38 pm

Doesn’t matter what any of The Three say or do, almost everyone has their mind made up already.

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I respectfully disagree, it does matter. Tom Mulcair’s statement that he’d repeal Bill C51 is why I am for the NDP for the first time ever.

#200 biased anecdotes on 09.18.15 at 11:11 pm

180 Leo Trollstoy
#175 Linda Pearson

Those all sound like biased anecdotes. None of them concern me. I’ll take the extra $5k TFSA room. Thanks!

Of course you do. You would do it for 5 cents.

You are an anecdote. You are no concern for anyone.

#201 Edward on 09.18.15 at 11:12 pm

“while members of Mr. Mulcair’s party have been calling for a lifetime limit on tax-free savings and an end to the break investors receive through capital gains tax.”
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The TSFA limit is pretty high on my list of election items.

If the NDP get in and start to screw with capital gains taxes, they will chase off many or most investors in stocks or other investments that reside within Canada. The TSX will incur big losses, Canadian public companies will have more trouble raising funds and employment will take another hit.

I’m voting Harper, or rather NOT voting Muclair or Trudeau. If the NDP get in and start “tax creep”, I’ll get the hell out of here. I imagine many will do the same.

#202 RC on 09.18.15 at 11:15 pm

The one thing I never hear from those who propose taxing the rich is what do they consider rich, we already have a graduated taxation system, do they plan on a threshold surcharge like the Ontario Liberals, and once they implement it, will they gradually lower the surcharge threshold if new revenue is needed
The problem with any new form of taxation is once they are implemented they are usually there for good

#203 kommykim on 09.18.15 at 11:16 pm

RE: #97 Jake Sambell on 09.18.15 at 7:44 pm
Look at Liberals and NDP like Ontario, B.C. which are about 50% of Canada’s population and their debt levels, high, high, high!

The Liberals in BC are hardly Liberal. They are rehashed Socreds. Even the BC Liberal party was mulling changing their name in light of the fact that they are not really Liberals.

#204 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.18.15 at 11:18 pm

#199 Hawk on 09.18.15 at 11:05 pm
#90 rawdiswar on 09.18.15 at 7:38 pm

Doesn’t matter what any of The Three say or do, almost everyone has their mind made up already.

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I respectfully disagree, it does matter. Tom Mulcair’s statement that he’d repeal Bill C51 is why I am for the NDP for the first time ever.
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Second that….and its the ONLY reason why. As usual all we have to vote for in our Dictatorship system is

Dumb, Dumber and Dumberer

#205 john duffy on 09.18.15 at 11:25 pm

Did someone say the US economy is turning around!

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/09/20150916_obo.jpg

#206 Cp on 09.18.15 at 11:26 pm

Taxing consumption rather than just income is progressive and fair. — Garth

Taxing wealth rather than just income and consumption is more progressive and more fair.

A wealthy person’s passive portfolio will grow six to seven percent per year on average, and if nothing is sold, no taxes are paid. A yearly one percent wealth tax will still leave investors with five to six percent growth, and help reduce taxes on income for working stiffs.

#207 Hellandback on 09.18.15 at 11:28 pm

My coffee room has been debating this for months and most are leaning to the Dippers for several reasons but mostly because they hate Harper with a passion for what he has done and is planning to do to the Fed workers. His personal disdain for science, cutting jobs and funding to all departments to make the books look good, creating fear and paranoia about terrorism and general mistrust of his potential to spy into all our lives. It has pushed many to edge to hold their noses and vote for the bearded wonder boy. They know he may eff it all up but the alternative would be to sign their death notices.

Yes, they are all long time Fed workers who know him almost as well as Garth who have never voted Dipper before. When your back is against the wall you vote for the guy who will save your ass, not the one who has a target on it.

#208 Trojan House on 09.18.15 at 11:33 pm

#150 Gulf Stream

I’m glad you like to pay taxes so much, therefore, why don’t you give 100% of your earnings to the government in the form of taxes!

In fact, from reading the comments on this blog, why don’t all of you give 100% or your earnings to pay taxes. That way we can have a national daycare so that complaining mothers can go to work instead of staying home to raise THEIR children. Who the hell wants to be home with the little snots anyway when you can give them to someone else to raise them?!

It’s funny what people are asking for – basically another Venezuela or even worse yet, a communist state where the government takes care of all of our needs with everything we earn.

I have a secret for you – communism failed and so will it’s little brother, socialism.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Harper. He’s taken away more freedoms in this country and has basically run it as a dictator. He’s a socialist sheep in wolf’s clothing. At least a few sane people have said to spoil the ballot – if you’re only voting the lesser of the evil, it’s still evil. Change for the sake of change is not change.

But if you believe that the Liberals under Trudeau or the NDP under Mulclair are truly better, and I mean truly better – better platforms, etc – then vote for one of them. I truly don’t believe any of them are good for Canada, therefore, I will spoil my ballet but I can bet all of you scorning against Harper will be back on this blog six months after the election scorning against Trudeau or Mulclair…but it will be your own fault.

#209 Nosty, etc. on 09.18.15 at 11:38 pm

#54 Habs76-79 on 09.18.15 at 6:43 pm — “My take is that we will see a minority govt. regardless of who shall win.”

Bang on. Too close to call, and Cdns. are fed up with Harper’s dictatorial attitude. A couple of decades of accomplishing nothing is better than any of these three yahoos for a term or two.
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#195 VICTORIA TEA PARTY on 09.17.15 at 10:43 pm — “-Russia now firmly planting a big military contingent in Syria and telling the Yanks to screw off”

Hi VTP. Possibly this (no regime change in Syria) will give a clearer understanding of what is happening there. Syria asked Russia for help. Russia obliged. al Quada, ISIS and ISIL (which have never attacked Israel) are US – Mossad inventions. This is more likely the cause.

New Currency Bitruble from Vlad; SMan — Leonard Cohen’s Secret Life (with MKUltra); One- and Two-Year Olds on SSRIs; 35 million more migrants?

#210 willworkforpickles on 09.18.15 at 11:55 pm

I’m all for one sided communication….my side.

#211 Vanecdotal on 09.19.15 at 12:00 am

#98 Jake Sambell

Fwiw, BC Lieberals seem to follow the fed Neandercon policy playbook to the letter. They are about as far right as you can get, “Liberal” in name only. Nothing, nada, zilch in common with fed Liberal party as far as I can see. Just further confuses voters…

You’re right about misguided spending though, plenty of socialized debt, and privatized profits on the Wet Coast.

#212 Chucky Angel on 09.19.15 at 12:03 am

Garth

I think Harper was/is jealous of your hair and beard. Hence you had to go….no doubt he would have laid into Farrah Fawcett as well had she been in the caucus…

#213 Time for a change! on 09.19.15 at 12:03 am

I’m 5% dude.

Far too easy to be that than a 1%er.

You can hang out with 95% of the people and when they bitch of about the 1% …. you node and ask them what the solution is.

NDPs taxing the corps is stupid. Reformers are worst in so many ways!! Liberals … well Justin is not Pierre.n But he sure is cute!

All parties suck.

In my riding, I’m pretty sure the reformists-conservatives will win.

So I think long term. I think of my kids’ quality of live.

I think Green.

I’m going to give my $20 voting Green.

#214 Eddie on 09.19.15 at 12:06 am

“while members of Mr. Mulcair’s party have been calling for a lifetime limit on tax-free savings and an end to the break investors receive through capital gains tax.”
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The TSFA limit is pretty high on my list of election items.

If the NDP get in and start to screw with capital gains taxes, they will chase off many or most investors in stocks or other investments that reside within Canada. The TSX will incur big losses, Canadian public companies will have more trouble raising funds and employment will take another hit.

I’m voting Harper, or rather NOT voting Muclair or Trudeau. If the NDP get in and start “tax creep”, I’ll get the hell out of here. I imagine many will do the same.

#215 Vanecdotal on 09.19.15 at 12:09 am

#114 Nora Lenderby

+1

Re: Fossil First troglodyte from yesterday

Ya, good ol’ FF redlines the Douche-O-Meter yet again. The ad-hominem to the op for stating that she’d prefer to EARN her way in the world as opposed to relying on anyone else (a MAN) really says it all. At least by his own admission he’s not a breeder. Small mercies.

#216 Fay on 09.19.15 at 12:12 am

#190 kommykim on 09.18.15 at 10:38 pm:

“RE: #82 Ret on 09.18.15 at 7:29 pm
Why bother voting for any of them?

Sounds like you have decided to let someone else decide.”

Sounds like you have no grasp of statistics.

#217 Observer on 09.19.15 at 12:12 am

I wonder what the FED’s excuse will be in December…… :-/

#218 stage1dave on 09.19.15 at 12:13 am

I’ll be voting NDP in this election; and put up with the hit to my wallet. Many posters here have enunciated the Cons’ collective sins previously, so I’ll just say for me, enuff is enuff.

I will miss Harper’s passable renditions of Beatles’ songs; maybe one day we’ll have a PM who can play a passable Hendrix solo? Cripes, I might be happy if he or she owned a Cinderella tour shirt.

But without all the contempt for everyone else-type stuff tho…great post tonite, Mr. Turner!

Also, a large part of me is beginning to think that the boardrooms & backrooms of this country should perhaps realize what most of it’s well-travelled citizens have known have known for some time…it’s a pretty decent place to live & do business. I’m also thinking that a company determined to improve it’s financial outlook (or investor returns) by moving to China (or wherever else) probably isn’t too damned worried about “contributing” to the country in general anyway.

It’s becoming increasingly apparent that the priorities of private & corporate citizen are divergent; perhaps even diametrically opposed? Elections won’t cure this malaise, just hilight it.

#219 gut check on 09.19.15 at 12:14 am

Ohhhh my.

The dilemma indeed.

We shuffle around out little mental cages scratching our noggins … this bad guy or that bad guy? Which is better, the one who beats me with a stick or the one who beats me with a belt?

You see the trap we’re in?

And how did we get here? did we get here because of one guy? One party? One bad economic crash? No –

We got here because years of fat, good living made us soft and stupid. We all just want to go into our golden years with our boiled beef and cabbage, with our clickers in our hands and reliable heating for the winters.

Well… surprise. Unless you’re 85 with a bad ticker or a little baby teenager there’s going to be massive, massive upheaval (already has been) for possibly the rest of your life.

I’m excited, personally. This is an opportune time for people who’ve never been big on the Status Quo. :)

All in all I cannot hold my nose and vote for the lesser of evils. To me it’s like inviting in the vampire. I *can* and will choose not to do that. Go ahead and piss and moan at me that I’m ‘wasting’ a vote. Throwing away a hard won ‘right.’ (I got news for ya – if it were a ‘right’ no one would have ever had to fight for it in the first place…)

I know, I know – someone’s going to win this thing whether or not I sully a ballot. Well that’s kinda my point, hombre. Someone’s going to win anyway and it’ll be someone I’d rather not have as my leader.

At least when it’s all over I will honestly be able to say that it was not by my doing. I did not give my permission for it, and I don’t acquiesce to them as my leader.

Whoever it is he’ll be YOUR leader, but he’ll never be mine. I’d rather breathe clear and deep than hold my nose thank-you-very-much.

#220 Cici on 09.19.15 at 12:17 am

Well Garth, they punted, mocked, shamed and trampled all over you, but you persisted and endured, and came out better and stronger. Good for you! And good for us!!

Now, why didn’t you follow the Smoking Man ideology when they kicked you to the curb? (If you need a refresher, it was reiterated in one of last night’s posts, and went something like this: “Swipe the customer list. Hire some schooled, and open up shop across the street”).

Except in your case, you should have left with the names of the non-tea-party-type conservatives, and formed a new party. If I remember correctly, at some point when I was a kid, the real conservatives merged with the reform party/tea-partiers. I remember that it disturbed me at the time, even though I really wasn’t following politics. Maybe now is the time to undo that merge, and get back to the roots. With anti-Harper sentiment so high at the moment, there’s probably never been a better time to go forward with the plan…of course, you’d have to find a catchy new name, such as “the new non-neocon Conservative part of Canaduh”…OK, I’d need help with the branding…

#221 gut check on 09.19.15 at 12:20 am

@ #20 tkid on 09.18.15 at 5:53 pm

Have you a Libertarian candidate in your riding? *IF* I vote I would probably throw mine that way. I know they can’t win, but I am not trying to pick the winner here, it’s not a roulette wheel after all. Check into their platform, you might like what you see. Maybe. who knows.

#222 gut check on 09.19.15 at 12:21 am

#198 April. on 09.18.15 at 11:01 pm
Isn’t this the Stockholm Syndrome?
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yes it is.
it’s amazing how deep it’s gone. Rational people actually stating openly that they dislike the person they will vote for. out effing rageous

#223 Kilby on 09.19.15 at 12:29 am

I, like most, don’t like any of the federal parties platforms but as with most Canadians think Harper is a megalomanic with serious personalty issues and would much sooner see Mulcair or Trudeau in office where things aren’t a one man show. The NDP has had good governments and bad ones just like the other two parties, Trudeau will probably ask for advice from others. Not perfect but more like Canada before Harper. Possibly they will leave the BOC alone as well…….

#224 Setting the Record Straight on 09.19.15 at 12:29 am

@100
“And he had no business eliminating the long form census. ”

You feel you have the right to compel answers to the questions on the long form census?

I can see you are a real believer in freedom.

#225 Parsonage on 09.19.15 at 12:31 am

Garth
Thank you for tonight’s move along Isaiah’s path. Responses from the masses and the Remnant were as expected.
http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig3/nock3b.html

#226 Love my Kia on 09.19.15 at 12:31 am

Garth, how much money would you need to have so that you wouldn’t feel the need to vote for a domineering megalomaniac who has insulted you and your family?

I can handle insults. Even yours. — Garth
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I realize this is a financial blog, but what it boils down to what we desire of our government. The individual vs the collective is what is being challenged in this election.

I value the ‘fair and just society’ that we were so envied and admired for worldwide. It didn’t matter that we were a world economic power (which we weren’t pre-90’s), but people wanted to come here anyway.

There is a dangerous assumption here that many people want to come here because everything is ‘free’.

WRONG! The vast majority of newcomers to Canada want to come here because of the reputation of living in peace and safety. My cousin teaches ESL at Sheridan college and has done an informal survey among ‘new stock Canadians’ who overwhelmingly tell her that is their primary motivation.

Just imagine coming here from a land where bombs are dropping in your neighbourhood and lawlessness abounds for as far as the eye can see. Being able to sleep through a night without fear of losing your life is an achievement that ranks much higher than ‘free stuff’.
My mom came here from a war torn country where family members were murdered and even recollecting those traumatic events brings her to an inconsolable frame of mind. Being a first/and third gen Canadian (depending on the side of family) I am at a loss trying to imagine those horrors.

I am proud of my citizenship for what this country has done to make my parents lives so much better from where they came from. You can’t put a price tag on it…well…yes you can. For me it’s worth paying for, and from what I’ve been reading here I have a lot of company who agree.

#227 Kilby on 09.19.15 at 12:41 am

Liberal has my vote. It is specifically against the cons, as well as being for someone that comes across as willing to fight for the canada that i believe most of us want to see, both environmentally and on the world stage.

Well said, unfortunately where we live it is either Conservative or NDP. Libs and Greens have so little support so it is NDP even though I am a federal Liberal according to all the “What are you ” polls out there. It is “Anybody but Harper” unfortunately.

#228 TheLibertarian on 09.19.15 at 12:43 am

Harper lost me with bill C51, the spying bindge and the warmongering. In other words, I’d rather give some on the economic front, than to see freedom and democracy in a further freefall under him.

#229 MArk on 09.19.15 at 12:46 am

You are a good man, Garth.

#230 lala on 09.19.15 at 1:00 am

Is dangerous electing conservatives one more time, that’s all lala have to say.

#231 Moses71 on 09.19.15 at 1:02 am

Hey Garth!
Bad publicity is better than no publicity!
Notorious Mr. Garth
So you pissed some people off?
Nothing wrong with integrity. You’re still standing your ground & walking it like you talk it
Can’t take that away

#232 cynically on 09.19.15 at 1:03 am

#25 Nick in answer to the American says Harper was trying to turn Canada into the 51st state. If he had succeeded, Canada would join the deep south states not the enterprising northern and far west ones because the latter have the drive, will and ambition to succeed in almost any endeavour, witness Silicon Valley, and that’s why the world has received so much in the way of medicine, technology and the arts and practically zero from Canada. In fact if a very smart Canadian wants to succeed in his line of work or profession and be recognized and rewarded he or she goes south as many have, particularly in the arts. So to all those yankee bashers on this blog, develop a little humility and examine your own station in life.

#233 Suede on 09.19.15 at 1:05 am

Reading the comments section with a jack and coke is pretty refreshing on a Friday night.

Small joys in life being a blog diggity dog.

What if there’s a 3 way tie in voting, do they go to 3 on 3 overtime and then shootout, or…?

Also, if there’s a Lib-Commie minority JV government or whatever the politically correct way to call it is, will they jointly roll back the TFSA and the stuff us wealthy wannabes want to keep, or….?

Also, what’s the succession plan of the Con’s?

After Harper, then who. MacKay is just not ready, but has nice hair though. And that asian woman that likes limo’s and 5 star hotels has no chance.

Whatever happened to that scandal.

Side note, as all my notes tend to be…

At the mall food court today, i’m chomping on my roasted chicken footlong sub. Beside me a bunch of 23 year old girls are talking about the election.

THE ELECTION, are you kidding me. Not instagram, twitter, that girl on the Social that was making fun of fat people, but the CDN Election.

Maybe the great awakening is upon us. Thanks to anti-social media.

… i think that’s how you code it anyway

#234 Frank on 09.19.15 at 1:11 am

I can handle insults. Even yours. — Garth

Wow. Voting for the guy that ran you into the ground and personally insulted your wife. I admire the commitment to your values, I’d probably just say ‘fuck it’ and stay home on election day with a bottle of scotch and a TV tuned to anything but the news.

#235 Norway Cat on 09.19.15 at 1:11 am

I stand to lose my capital gains tax break? WTF!

Suddenly this election has caught my attention. lol

I think I’ll vote Green.

Thank you for an amazing column, Garth.

#236 cynically on 09.19.15 at 1:11 am

s/b #26 not #25.

#237 sideline sitter on 09.19.15 at 1:20 am

All those issues and you still vote Cons?
Old habits die hard I guess…

If the 1% can avoid the newly proposed tax changes, then why does that matter?

I’m voting Liberal. Harper has to go, and his lack of real leadership means there’s no one to replace him.

I think he’s a horrible CEO, who only surrounds himself with trained seals.

#238 liquidincalgary on 09.19.15 at 1:22 am

we already have dipper mla’s. the prospect of similar mp’s…maybe it is time to move back to SK, where things are still somewhat civilized!

#239 Love my Kia on 09.19.15 at 1:28 am

As much as the TFSA being your legacy is a wonderful investment tool Garth, removing threats to democracy is by far more important than savings room.

My vote is for the NDP.

#240 Rural Rick on 09.19.15 at 1:30 am

Here is my two cents worth on Canadian politics. The conservatives and liberal parties are entrenched old school machines. You will get the same old stuff from them, once again. Give the NDP a shot. They have lots of young idealistic candidates that are going to make rookie mistakes but hey that’s how you learn. If we as Canadians keep electing the same party machines expecting a different result we are by definition insane.
Oh yeah, election promises are not legally binding. Some guy took Mulroney to court for not fulfilling his election promises and the judge said in his ruling”Anyone who believes what a politician seeking office says is patently a fool.” So be a fool or be cool.
NDP for a change

#241 Skip Breakfast on 09.19.15 at 1:35 am

There’s no one worth voting for. But I would vote for Garth. Integrity is such a rate commodity. I think many readers can sympathise with you around having experienced such a tyrannical and egomaniacal boss. Especially around such an unjust firing. Cable television couldn’t imagine a more perfectly despicable character than Harper The experience has made so much wiser though. Your pain has been our gain. Thank you.

#242 Norway Cat on 09.19.15 at 1:40 am

PS Voting Green isn’t throwing away my vote. They’re running second in this riding. And I like Elizabeth May. The GG should make you PM and her your Deputy. You two would be busy, but should manage ok.

#243 whitehorn on 09.19.15 at 1:45 am

#155 Bill MacMurdo “Thanks for the up close and personal information re: Harper. An eye opener. You are too kind. Really. The Liberals had a good run from 1993 to 2006 so I will give them another chance. Enough.” I have to agree, my experience since 1991. The 93-06 was a very prosperous time for Canadians, availability of jobs, affordable housing and basically a very robust time with lots of opportunity for people in the country. The time periods of 91, 92 recessions under PC rule and 08-15 have been challenging times for many Canadians with a difficult economy. I realize eras of time affect politics but still believe it is not always coincidental. I voted PC in last election it will definitely be the Liberals this time. I was talking to a group of people and Harper lacks execution, he is supposedly the oil and gas guy, but has not build one km of pipelines during his tenure. He has failed on many other fronts and Canada needs change. Also, I wish politics was similar to the USA where 2 terms and you’re out, as need new up and coming people to propel the country to greater prosperity. This in my opinion will hurt the PC’s chance of another term, as should have been grooming someone for the party.

#244 A Yank in BC on 09.19.15 at 1:46 am

Interesting how the Conservative party’s attack ad’s on Trudeau come right out and say that he isn’t ready yet.. as if to imply that someday perhaps he will be. Why the faint praise? Are they already thinking ahead to post-election coalitions?

#245 liquidincalgary on 09.19.15 at 1:52 am

Taxing consumption rather than just income is progressive and fair. — Garth

hear hear!

increase VAT, decrease income tax

#246 Brad in Cowtown on 09.19.15 at 1:55 am

Excellent blog today Garth. Couldn’t agree with you more.
I can’t lie – I despise Harper. I think he’s smug and I just can’t stand watching the guy.
Having said that, I trust his competency more than Trudeau’s and Mulcair’s combined.
I think their intentions are good, I really do. But like you wrote above… they are trying to sell a fairy tale.

#247 LS in Arbuts on 09.19.15 at 1:59 am

I agree. As much as I don’t want Harper, I want the other two even less. You capture the quandary well.

#248 Parksille Senior on 09.19.15 at 2:05 am

Unlike you, Garth I have been a lifelong Conservative, was active in the formation of the Reform Party and the Saskatchewan Party and am proud of the record of the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada. In Sask, Grant Devine was the Premier that saved the Province from Devastation when we were hit with both the worst drought and worst farm depression to hit Canada since the 1930’s.

Stephen Harper faced similiar circumstances in 2008 and, unlike Grant Devine who used the Govt to support the Economy, Stevie attempted to use the govt to punish and impoverish his country.

We had that kind of Govt in Sask once, it was the burnt countryside regime of Roy Romanov’s rural revenge!

We don’t need Harper heavy, we don’t need Harper light (Mulcair).

I am going to hold my nose and be the first in my Family to vote Liberal since 1953.

And the reason is that our economy is in recession, unemployment is high and our manufacturing sector is working at far lower than capacity.

Trudeau is the only leader that is willing to assume the lead of the US(land of the booming economy and low inflation) by promoting public spending.

And God knows, even if Garth doesn’t, that we have collapsing bridges, deteriorated roads, crumbling public transit and a dozen other deficiencies that are holding us back.

Let him follow the lead of the US and modernize our country. it seems as if harper is not only comfortable with 19th century thoughts and science, but is also comfortable with 19th century public infrastructure.

Get off it Garth, your financial advice is good but that is in spite of your economic beliefs, not because of them.

I would recommend you read Paul Krugman before you write your next blog—it would do you a world of good.

Thanks.
Blair

#249 jane 24 on 09.19.15 at 2:10 am

Garth the winning party sadly will be “didn’t vote’. The Canadian Apathy Party will romp home.

After all these years Canada does need a fresh face with fresh policies but there isn’t a sensible one to choose.

Oct 19th will be a sad day for democracy.

#250 senta on 09.19.15 at 2:11 am

yes Garth, I want to feel good for a day or two and its worth the price of the tfsa. I want kick the pig in the butt and send his sorry ass back to alberta.

#251 sam on 09.19.15 at 2:25 am

How can anyone who cares about democracy and transparency fir for Harper? Thus asshole has done more damage to our country than any PM in generations. Only simpletons who reduce everything to economic issues would consider voting for him.

#252 Angel on 09.19.15 at 2:41 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIYiGA_rIls

“Soak Up The Sun”

My friend the communist
Holds meetings in his RV
I can’t afford his gas
So I’m stuck here watching TV
I don’t have digital
I don’t have diddly squat
It’s not having what you want
It’s wanting what you’ve got

I’m gonna soak up the sun
Gonna tell everyone
To lighten up
I’m gonna tell ’em that
I’ve got no one to blame
For every time I feel lame
I’m looking up
I’m gonna soak up the sun
I’m gonna soak up the sun

I’ve got a crummy job
It don’t pay near enough
To buy the things it takes
To win me some of your love
Every time I turn around
I’m looking up, you’re looking down
Maybe something’s wrong with you
That makes you act the way you do

I’m gonna soak up the sun
Gonna tell everyone
To lighten up
I’m gonna tell ’em that
I’ve got no one to blame
For every time I feel lame
I’m looking up
I’m gonna soak up the sun
While it’s still free
I’m gonna soak up the sun
Before it goes out on me

Don’t have no master suite
But I’m still the king of me
You have a fancy ride, but baby
I’m the one who has the key
Every time I turn around
I’m looking up, you’re looking down
Maybe something’s wrong with you
That makes you act the way you do
Maybe I am crazy too

I’m gonna soak up the sun
Gonna tell everyone
To lighten up
I’m gonna tell ’em that
I’ve got no one to blame
For every time I feel lame
I’m looking up

I’m gonna soak up the sun
Gonna tell everyone
To lighten up (I’m gonna tell ’em that)
I’ve got no one to blame
For every time I feel lame
I’m looking up

I’m gonna soak up the sun
I got my 45 on
So I can rock on

#253 bob dog on 09.19.15 at 3:06 am

Socialism is what society is built on. Both words probably share the same root word.

NDP = Star Trek
PC = Game of Thrones

#254 Steve French on 09.19.15 at 3:38 am

when Stephen Harper loses this election, I am going to be so doggone-happy…..I will declare a holiday and get smashed !

#255 BS on 09.19.15 at 3:49 am

This is personal. I regret the time spent with Stephen Harper. I’m not bitter. Life’s too short. But nor should I forget.

I have worked for a control freaks in the past. For the most part the companies were always successful under the control freaks. Often with nice guys at the top not so much. Like Garth’s experience it wan’t always pleasant for me working under the control freaks. Although it is better to work for someone you don’t like in a successful organization than someone you do like in a failure.

It is unfortunate often talented people in the position of power think they need to be micro mangers and intimidate rather than motivate to be successful. The bottom line is often control freaks could do better if they were not control freaks. Still many are successful and talented people. I would take a control freak who knows how to manage over someone incompetent any day. Harper with his flaws is miles above the flunky’s like Trudeau and Mulcair. Trudeau and Mulcair are incompetent along with their respective parties policies. As long as I don’t need to work directly for Harper he has my vote. Even if I did need to work for him he is better than the alternative.

#256 nonplusedrodamous on 09.19.15 at 3:54 am

So if they held an election and nobody came, would they all just go away?

I’m thinking parliament empty for 4 years would be a good thing.

#257 Gonkman on 09.19.15 at 4:15 am

Holy crap… Garth did you link this post somewhere on the CBC Website?

Most of The comments the past few days are like reading the Comments on the CBC website.

It’s Raining = Harper’s Fault.

Your Dog Died = Harper Did it.

Its Saturday = Harper Muzzled the Scientists it’s really SUNDAY!

I look at the 3 Candidates in an easy way.

Who will keep this country in the best Economical state for Everyone.

Trudeau – I am going to SPEND SPEND SPEND. = FAIL

Muclair – I will Tax Corporations and when the doesn’t work you will feel my hand in your pocket. = FAIL

Harper – Keep things moving. No Tax Hikes. Slow and Steady. Keep it balanced. = PASS

Sorry but all the other “Promises” and BS spouted probably won’t come from any of the Potential Leaders.

Good Luck everyone and if the Libs or Dippers win a Majority I will be getting hammered and calling in sick on the 20th.

If they ask why I called in sick on the 20th…

“It was Trudeau’s Fault” or “It was Muclair’s Fault”

#258 Freedom First on 09.19.15 at 5:46 am

Well, I didn’t want to back Harper for all the same reasons and proof put forward tonight. Had the dilemma too as I mentioned because of H, not his party.

However upon reflection, the reading of this comment section and talking with other fed up Conservatives tonight, who because of their disrespect for H as a human being are changing parties soley to get H out because they have grown to hate him. Frankly, the thought of H winning again, and maybe all because of my vote, makes me sick to my stomach. I sincerely don’t think I could handle the guilt and shame. I admit it, the mere sight of H is nauseating. If it was Garth at the Helm, I would vote Conservative hands down. I have 0 trust for H.

I have tentatively made a decision. Mulcair comes across as another control freak/fake/maybe also a bully, with a false people pleaser attitude, and not trustworthy, I will be voting for the kid. The Libs it is. At least the kid sounds like he still has some humanity left in him. I see that as the best thing to vote for, sadly. I will give that credit to his Mother, not his Dad.

#259 Grantmi on 09.19.15 at 5:56 am

#27 Keith in Calgary on 09.18.15 at 6:09 pm
I am voting for Trudeau.

Mulcair and his cronies creep me out and people with beards are not to be trusted.

Harper has ruined Canada economically.

At least with Trudeau I won’t get busted for blazing a Marley……..

Did u even watch the debate the other day??? JT is an assclown…. U want that as our leader on the world stage. Sorry. We already endured that with Creatin.

#260 Grantmi on 09.19.15 at 6:02 am

#196 pwn3d on 09.18.15 at 10:52 pm
There’s no dilemma. Only an idiot would vote for JT. He can’t even parrot the party lines very well and has no original thoughts. If his last name wasn’t T, he’d be a barista right now.

No he wouldn’t. He’d be working here.

http://imgur.com/kLFfRsD

#261 earthboundmisfit on 09.19.15 at 6:47 am

Electile dysfunction: The inability to become aroused about any of the current choices for Prime Minister.

Someone earlier said it best. “Canada needs a reset”.

#262 Brain Smoke on 09.19.15 at 7:09 am

Sir,

It’s time for you to put honour, integrity, and the future of Canada above money.

You have seen first hand what Harpo is and does. You know the inside story and it’s ugly ugly ugly.

Money is nice, reclaiming and rebuilding our democracy is more important than financial gain.

Do not allow greed and fear to influence. The future of our once great country is 1000X more important than money and greed.

Please reflect upon that.

ABC

#263 Catalyst on 09.19.15 at 7:33 am

I really can’t understand how you can point to Liberal and NDP plans to run deficits as bad things. Why would a government support accommodative monetary policy with tight fiscal policy makes no sense.

The government should be taking advantage of low rates to invest in infrastructure and transportation which will spur economic activity and budgets.

Harper’s blind focus on a ‘balanced (federal) budget’ is purely for his own ego and not what Canada needs right now.

And as your post clarifies, when you have evaluated a persons character and found them wanting, how can you believe anything they say?

#264 What a bubble? on 09.19.15 at 7:48 am

Harper has the worst economic record of any Prime Minister since the World War II. The only future you will have under Harper it’s to be a slave to the bankers and financial elite.
Anyone but Harper.

#265 Troy spelled backwards is Idiot on 09.19.15 at 8:13 am

#18 Vancouver Troy
“I never had kids. Don’t want to pay for someone else’s. Voting Cons.”

And I’ve never been to your house. I’m voting for whoever promises to cut off the internet over there.

#266 30 Days to an NDP Government!! on 09.19.15 at 8:34 am

Good times ahead for Canada!

Honest democratic policy and a more transparent government.

Leaders of much better moral character – simply better human beings.

Actual financial conservatism, not smoke and mirrors and billions in giveaways – no more gazebos.

A smart approach to preserving both our financial and environmental future.

Garth, that Finance Minister job might still be open, too. Send Tom a text ;)

#267 The last comment on 09.19.15 at 8:35 am

Canada needs Trudeau in. Not because of his platform or accomplishments. Not because of his brilliance or heritage, but because of his humility. Trudeau, unlike the closet dictator or the know it all, is a consensus builder who, like famed Socrates, knows what he doesn’t know. Forget about a vision for Canada. We had that for eight years now and its done nothing but brought the country down on multiple fronts. Do you really want more of the same, a radical agenda, or someone who has the maturity to listen to others with the aim or correcting all the past mistakes. If the individual voters can’t see this, they’re a disappointment to their country.

#268 Millenial on 09.19.15 at 8:43 am

Hey Garth,

One FOMC member is forecasting negative interest rates (for 2015/2016) in the Fed’s projection materials. This is the first time in Fed history that an FOMC member has on the record predicted NIRP in the US. When questioned about the possibility of negative interest rates, Yellen said that it was a tool that was available.

Everything I just said is accurate, I’m not providing any opinion.

#269 Dominoes Lining Up on 09.19.15 at 9:07 am

Funny, isn’t it?

The leader who most often uses the term “friends”, has none, really.

The leader who most often says “clearly”, is anything but clear, the most convoluted and furtive when it comes to his real meaning and underlying beliefs.

The leader who most often says “the fact of the matter is” finds himself oblivious to real facts about our economy, our environment, and anything except insider party spin.

Funny, huh?

And sad for Canada.

“Dilemma”

“a situation requiring a choice between equally undesirable alternatives”

Equally undesirable?

Not even close.

#270 Smoking Man on 09.19.15 at 9:15 am

#218 gut check on 09.19.15 at 12:14 am
Ohhhh my.

The dilemma indeed.

We shuffle around out little mental cages scratching our noggins … this bad guy or that bad guy? Which is better, the one who beats me with a stick or the one who beats me with a belt?

You see the trap we’re in?

And how did we get here? did we get here because of one guy? One party? One bad economic crash? No –

We got here because years of fat, good living made us soft and stupid. We all just want to go into our golden years with our boiled beef and cabbage, with our clickers in our hands and reliable heating for the winters.

Well… surprise. Unless you’re 85 with a bad ticker or a little baby teenager there’s going to be massive, massive upheaval (already has been) for possibly the rest of your life.

I’m excited, personally. This is an opportune time for people who’ve never been big on the Status Quo. :)

All in all I cannot hold my nose and vote for the lesser of evils. To me it’s like inviting in the vampire. I *can* and will choose not to do that. Go ahead and piss and moan at me that I’m ‘wasting’ a vote. Throwing away a hard won ‘right.’ (I got news for ya – if it were a ‘right’ no one would have ever had to fight for it in the first place…)

I know, I know – someone’s going to win this thing whether or not I sully a ballot. Well that’s kinda my point, hombre. Someone’s going to win anyway and it’ll be someone I’d rather not have as my leader.

At least when it’s all over I will honestly be able to say that it was not by my doing. I did not give my permission for it, and I don’t acquiesce to them as my leader.

Whoever it is he’ll be YOUR leader, but he’ll never be mine. I’d rather breathe clear and deep than hold my nose thank-you-very-much.
……

Jesus Woman.

Not only are you a gifted artist, but shit….holly shit.

You can write!!!

I cant top that one…

Well done.

#271 Bruce Chase on 09.19.15 at 9:37 am

I’m not a fan of Mr. Harper, ever since he trashed Income Trusts and caused me to lose some money. HOWEVER, what are the alternatives. Jr Trudeau? All I can say is that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Tom Mulcair reminds me of Dalton McGinty, in that he is making promises that will cost me, a retired senior citizen, more money. Frankly, better the devil you know and have lived with than the alternatives. Heaven knows what will happen if either Tom or Junior gets to form a govenment. The sad reality of this country is that there are very few real leaders.

#272 jed on 09.19.15 at 9:46 am

Corporations can easily restructure or relocate. Besides, with job insecurity, do you really want to drain your employer?

________________________

the same ilk who have outsourced most of our decent paying jobs to Asia and Mexico? who cares, they have no loyalty either

#273 pbrasseur on 09.19.15 at 9:48 am

Canadians want things to be the way they were, they will vote for the parties that promise them that.

Good luck with that…

#274 Yuus bin Haad on 09.19.15 at 9:49 am

This election is about showing Harper’s majority the door – nothing more.

#275 Patrick on 09.19.15 at 9:51 am

If Trudeau would vow to put a leash on Wynne and stop her anti-business policies I would vote Liberal but he won’t.

With any luck the Reform win the election, Harper will continue to strip away democracy for four more years, the NDP will destroy Alberta’s economy to replicate Norway (15 years too late). Wynne will make sure Ontario has an economy of windmills and health care, paid for by the province with the taxes collected from….well she hasn’t gotten that far yet, give her time. And all of this right as the boomers start to retire and put a serious strain on the economy.

Garth, you like to talk about why we shouldn’t buy houses because they are overpriced. As a young Canadian I don’t buy real estate because I don’t plan on being able to have a job in this country 10 years from now.

#276 NewStockCanadian on 09.19.15 at 9:53 am

Judging by the polls and seat projections, it’s tight.

A three way tie is likely not possible. It requires Green to win 2 seats, or the Bloq to win 1.
But a two way tie is not beyond realistic. Greens will be the kingmaker with a coalition.
You read it here first!

#277 SWL1976 on 09.19.15 at 9:55 am

This blog and its comments section is awesome!!!

So much knowledge and wisdom here

#278 saskatoon on 09.19.15 at 10:19 am

***WARNING***
POTENT ARGUMENTS AGAINST DEMOCRACY AHEAD ***WARNING***

#183 Boombust

“I have no qualms at all about casting my ballot for them; it is time for a REAL change in this country.”

#225 Love my Kia

“Being able to sleep through a night without fear of losing your life is an achievement that ranks much higher than ‘free stuff’.”

#252 bob dog

“Socialism is what society is built on. Both words probably share the same root word.”

#261 Brain Smoke

“The future of our once great country is 1000X more important than money and greed.”

#262 Catalyst

“The government should be taking advantage of low rates to invest in…transportation which will spur…budgets.”

#279 maxx on 09.19.15 at 10:23 am

Contrary to what many may “feel”, an election is not a popularity contest. Voting to punish is a costly mistake.

Parties blather on ad infinitum about “middle class family” entitlements. This particular demographic does not need more stoking as so many are already sucked into idiotic levels of debt. What a reflection of the economy at large.

I cannot consciously contribute to the much-vaunted projection of messing with our fiscal quality of life which is now indisputably in decline.

“Middle class families” have benefited from government largesse via questionable tax credits for seemingly ever and I’m beyond fed up with hearing about the fruit flavours’ plans to enact measures that will further exacerbate the tradition of fiscally marginalizing those who can read a balance sheet, seniors, savers and the young, who can’t, without ever-increasing difficulty, even buy at the bottom of the property ladder.
Scrapping the bloated cmhc, deleting rsp-raiding measures and raising rates by .1% per quarter would do wonders.

All demographics spend. Sparing more attention and consideration for that which has already contributed so much to society is good for the economy.

As much as I’m not a fan of the blue personality and character, I have no intention of punishing my bottom line.

#280 dogman01 on 09.19.15 at 10:25 am

Wealth Gap in Canada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBkBiv5ZD7s

It is not about the 300K with the highest income. It is about share of the common wealth; how much does one family need.

A very successful guy made this comment.

I am bright, ambitious, fortunate, and a Billionaire.

If I was born in Cameroon I would own two fruit stands instead of one. But because I can leverage all the supports and systems of a modern society instead I am a Billionaire. My Billion is attributable more to the environment, circumstances and luck then my personal acumen. Because I have more I should pay more for the upkeep of that society that created the conditions for my success.

Wealth tax, upon Death; 5-10% problem solved.

I vote ABC as this nasty piece of work Harper is dangerous to democracy.

#281 Lee bow on 09.19.15 at 10:27 am

Free market is thought by many to be the best available price discovery process. Parliamentary democracy, similarly, is supposed to lead to better decision making by reconciling, averaging different opinions, considering the arguments pro and con.

Mr Harper, on the other hand, removes this diversification of opinions by controlling every step and word of conservative MPs. Look at Twitter. One day, a whole bunch of cons MPs post about ‘disastrous economic policies’ of NDP. All orchestrated. They are afraid to change the wording even.

While NDP and Liberals are not an option, neither is Harper.

#282 broader mind on 09.19.15 at 10:28 am

Owe Canada,and the selection of our next leader. Sir Garth and the majority of posters on this blog trouble themselves with small differences in our future leader.On the world economic stage we are insignificant.As a Canadian though we are all wealthy as collective holders of a vast and large quantity of raw material (fresh water…).Our economy is only as sound as the great powers(Usa, China) abilities to buy our stuff with little to no difference given to the leader we chose.Given this situation and knowing our place on the world stage makes the choice for our new leader simple.Mucky should be put out to pasture,Harpo looks like he’s inbred,and Justin is a relatively good looking fine example of a Canadian.The cons are actually helping Justin’s campaign with their nice hair ads.Again a Canadian leader has no clout (military ,economic,population..)so why would we not at least get ourselves recognized as a country with a decent gene pool. Isn’t it time Canada had a decent looking prime minister.

#283 For those about to flop... on 09.19.15 at 10:28 am

Gut [email protected]
We got here because years of fat, good living made us soft and stupid. We all just want to go into our golden years with our boiled beef and cabbage, with our clickers in our hands and reliable heating for the winters.

————————————————–
Oh please no anything but cabbage .I can’t stand the cabbage .oh yuk I can taste it now somebody shoot me if that’s all I’ve got to look forward to!
I,ll even say nice things about the prime minister to avoid the cabbage ……then again ,screw it give me the cabbage .

#284 NDP man on 09.19.15 at 10:30 am

If Jake Layton were here i would vote NDP anytime. Mulcair is a conservative wolf in NDP clothing. Obviously I hate spend, waste and steal conservatives. My vote is going to honest and straight shooting Trudeau. Mulcair lying about balanced budgets with his expensive day care and Harper is a corporate sellout who will give them huge tax breaks while signing secret trade deals that do not benefit Canadians.

#285 coke vs pepsi on 09.19.15 at 10:31 am

Mulcair says he will repeal c51. Which is good.
But he focuses on its.impact on political opponents, himself. The real impact is
On law abiding tax paying flag saluting citizens.
The real point of c51 is that is based LIES. Mulcair doesnt mention that.
Conclusion, he wont repeal it

#286 Nick on 09.19.15 at 10:37 am

Stay the course! Lower your expectations! Vote Harper!

Oh dear.

#287 Michael on 09.19.15 at 10:37 am

Rich people didn’t leave in a huff in the 1940s when the top rate went up to 84%, they won’t leave now if taxes go up a little.

Why risk it when there is so little reason to believe this will make any difference to the lives of the other 99%? This is unsound economic policy, and plays to the lowest common denominator. It is akin blaming immigrants for your inability to buy a house in downtown Vancouver. — Garth

#288 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 10:40 am

#54: “My take is that we will see a minority govt. regardless of who shall win.”

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What constitutes a ‘minority’? When Harper won a ‘majority’ with 38% (35%)?

#289 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 10:44 am

#55: “The flouting of campaign finance laws, and the neutering of Elections Canada. The voter ID law is US style voter suppression. The omnibus bills, the use of cloture to limit debate, prorogation, the contempt for question period, and for the press. The continuous use of government funds for what are essentially Conservative party ads. The appointment of unqualified or immoral people to cabinet, the senate, the judiciary, the PMO and the civil service.

A vote in favour of more of the above will further corrode our democracy…”

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Exactly!

#290 voting Cons on 09.19.15 at 10:48 am

#18 Vancouver Troy
“I never had kids. Don’t want to pay for someone else’s. Voting Cons.”

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Just make sure to check mark on your tax return the “I dont want to pay for someone else’s kids” box on your tax return and Rev Can will send you the appropriate refund.

#291 Armando on 09.19.15 at 10:58 am

Looks like Canada is in the same situation as the US (but with one more party to choose from) – nothing but garbage to choose from, only some may be less garbage than others…

#292 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 11:02 am

#93: “Very disappointing, Garth. Harper has shown utter disregard for our democracy, and I don’t trust him an inch. Prominent MPs have refused to stand by him, including Baird and MacKay.

Trudeau is a breath of fresh air, intelligent, cool, and articulate. If his tax plans aren’t right, then he will adjust. He is not an ideologue.

There is no dilemma. The sun will come up on October 20, and there are some things more important than money.”

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Well said. Trudeau may be young…but he’s not a child. He can adjust….and will, if he wants a second term. Whereas, Harper does not.

#293 For those about to flop... on 09.19.15 at 11:04 am

Why risk it when there is so little reason to believe this will make any difference to the lives of the other 99%? This is unsound economic policy, and plays to the lowest common denominator. It is akin blaming immigrants for your inability to buy a house in downtown Vancouver. — Garth

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Garth I know you’ve been here many times ,there aren’t many houses in Downtown Van ,it’s all low rise 70s apartments and shiny new glass towers.
Strathcona and Mt unpleasant are about to close to downtown as the average person could buy.

Gee, I hear there are still houses in Kits, Dunbar, Arbutus and beyond. Downtown enough for me. — Garth

#294 Burton on 09.19.15 at 11:06 am

If it weren’t for his last name JT would not even be running in a federal election.
As for Mulcair I think that he has a whole lot of enviromental and socialist policy in his idealilogical play book that he won’t dare reveal until after he is voted in because if he did it would cost him this election.
Harper so vilified by some here is far from perfect. However he is no more a scoundrel or control freak that Cretian, Mulroney and those that went before him. If you expect politics be nice and fair then you are naive. Vote for the candidate that will do you the least harm.

#295 Arse on 09.19.15 at 11:08 am

Harper gets my vote

#296 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 11:09 am

#103: “Let’s hope for a minority govt of Liberal and NDP. Or a coalition…”

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Probably our only hope. I lean toward a coalition.

#297 AfterTheHouseSold on 09.19.15 at 11:09 am

#242 whitehorn
re: PC’s “…should have been grooming someone for the party.”

They have. That person has been minister of numerous portfolios, experienced, informed, articulate, groomed and waiting in the wings. Jason Kenney.

#298 Arse on 09.19.15 at 11:10 am

I feel that Prime Minister Harper has been unfairly demonised by many

#299 For those about to flop... on 09.19.15 at 11:13 am

Why risk it when there is so little reason to believe this will make any difference to the lives of the other 99%? This is unsound economic policy, and plays to the lowest common denominator. It is akin blaming immigrants for your inability to buy a house in downtown Vancouver. — Garth

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Garth I know you’ve been here many times ,there aren’t many houses in Downtown Van ,it’s all low rise 70s apartments and shiny new glass towers.
Strathcona and Mt unpleasant are about to close to downtown as the average person could buy.

Gee, I hear there are still houses in Kits, Dunbar, Arbutus and beyond. Downtown enough for me. — Garth

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I know what you meant and you know what I meant .
Let’s call it a draw!

#300 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 11:15 am

#105: “They’ve managed four in a row in both Saskatchewan and Manitoba.”

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Ask Albertans how they feel.

#301 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 11:20 am

#112: “If Trudeau can harness that undercurrent of anger from people fed up with the current regime, he may well sweep into power.”

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He has a lot to learn. But he has potential.

#302 Andrew on 09.19.15 at 11:25 am

Garth. I was wondering what the future impacts will be when everyone has all their savings in a TFSA instead of RRSP and now everyone receives the full OAS benefit and even GPS as they have no income to report in retirement so no claw backs.

At first glance it seems like the cost of these programs could go through the roof. Does harper see this coming as a problem and this why he has already promised to increase these ages (maybe with the ultimate goal of phasing then out completely)? Is this a real concern or will this impact be minimal?

When 93% of TFSAs are not fully-funded and most people use them as glorified vacation savings accounts, this concern is groundless. However for those people who wish to be prudent and forward-thinking, the TFSA is a great asset. It should remain. — Garth

#303 Broke Dick on 09.19.15 at 11:30 am

Seeing that there is so much hate for Harper, myself included. In order to have a chance of winning this election, with a majority, Harper would be wise to announce that if elected he would promise to step down as leader mid term.
Because if NDP or Liberals win he will be gone anyways. There will be no denying that if the Con’s lose it was because of the hate for Harper.

I fully expect he’d be gone in a year or two. — Garth

#304 Steve French on 09.19.15 at 11:33 am

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/16/hitlers-world-may-not-be-so-far-away

“A common American error is to believe that freedom is the absence of state authority….”

“Not only the Holocaust, but all major German crimes took place in areas where state institutions had been destroyed, dismantled or seriously compromised. The German murder of five and a half million Jews, more than three million Soviet prisoners of war, and about a million civilians in so-called anti-partisan operations all took place in stateless zones.”

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Bingo.

For those so called libertarians who think “freedumb” is a society without the ‘interference’ of state government….

Try make a visit to a place like the Congo.

That’s what a place with very little or no state government looks like.

Remember that your vote counts.

Steve-O.

#305 Nagraj on 09.19.15 at 11:41 am

#281 BROADER MIND says “Isn’t it time Canada had a decent looking prime minister.” And who in their right mind, I ask, could argue with that, eh? So it’s Richie Rich Trudeau for PM. Let’s have done with ugly. For goodness sakes.

Which gits us to Hamilton (which is too kinda homely): what’s this about Canada Steel US (id est, Stelco, eh) threatening THE LAW with kaputness IF it don’t get to legally murder its 20,000 pensioners and skip its stupid tax bill? Is this – development – what GT had in mind when he but so very cruelly titillated us all with predicting an IMMINENT MAJOR INDUSTRIAL FAILURE? (Which thingy might also morph into some hot diggedy dog political failure . . . like it’s not as if FORNERS murderin’ old Canadians is gonna go over well, eh?)

[Years ago I bought puts on Stelco regularly once a year and made money every time, like takin candy from a baby. I never did figger out what made Stelco run and then I discovered that Stelco couldn’t figger out what made Stelco run either.] [Nowadays nobody can figger out what makes anything run. Dollarama excepted. Ha ha ha.]

#306 Michael on 09.19.15 at 11:46 am

Going to vote for Trudeau. Harper has been in power for too long. Mulclair is too hard to predict, he tries to be a new centrist but his party has many ideology motivated types from the old times.

Trudeau is no genious but he is well-rounded and has common sence. He may be a good PM.

In case he does not deliver, we can wait till the Cons elect a new leader and vote them back in.

#307 Pierre on 09.19.15 at 11:49 am

None of the three candidates and their parties can save our economy, therefore we might as well vote for the one whose plan will sink the economy fastest, to at least shorten the pain. At some point, when the CAD has dropped far enough, foreign investment and strategic takeovers will take place, and our economy will go up again. So, there is no point in voting on the basis of which party has the soundest economic plan – none of them can do anything about our predicament. So, as a result, I will vote on the basis of non-economic plans and track records. That makes things crystal clear: Harper must go.

#308 Investorz on 09.19.15 at 11:56 am

Janet Yellen said that before hiking rates, she wants to see even more job creation. Then she said after the first hike, when it happens, she will wait a considerable amount of time to hike again.

Clearly, we’ll have low rates for years.

Bill Gross think 5-10 more years minimum to see normal bond yields.

So retirees will still be forced to buy stocks that pay high dividends. Now look at how much those stocks pulled back lately. A lot. People thought rates were going up. They didn’t. The money will move back to get yield. Consider with your advisor buying:

– REITS ($ZRE ETF)
– A&W (5.5% dividend)
– PizzaPizza (5.7% dividend)

BostonPizza is way too exposed to Alberta and their same-store sales are down so stay away. Canadians have little cash flow so cheap fast-food companies like A&W and PizzaPizza is a better strategy.

#309 Nagraj on 09.19.15 at 12:05 pm

While I’s settin here let me take up two housekeeping items as it were (at the risk of incurring familiarity). RALPH CRAMDOWN took me to task (gently and politely, mind you) for misreading the Slop&Pail – well, Ralphie, I actually did read their screemin about ETFs (40% off) and etc re that fateful PLUNGE day BUT it was like a weather report MINUS notice that the season had suddenly changed because the planet reversed rotational direction: MSM is NOT reporting that the top is in. MSM is NOT saying that BTFD is so yesterday.

And NORA BLENDERY: you’ve been so serious lately. Did you not win the regatta? Instead of “What Womyn Want” as a title, how about “Git Off Me, Stupid!”?

#310 JohnSaccy on 09.19.15 at 12:09 pm

#218 gut check on 09.19.15 at 12:14 am
Ohhhh my.

The dilemma indeed……………………

TRULY BRILLIANT.

#311 Bytor the Snow Dog on 09.19.15 at 12:10 pm

It’s become quite clear to me after reading the comments here that Conservative supporters lack the sophistication to see past one particular issue….the state of their wallets.

Really sad.

Still undecided between LIBs or DIPs. I want first past the post GONE.

#312 Nora Lenderby on 09.19.15 at 12:11 pm

#282 For those about to flop… on 09.19.15 at 10:28 am
Gut [email protected]
Oh please no anything but cabbage .I can’t stand the cabbage .oh yuk I can taste it now somebody shoot me if that’s all I’ve got to look forward to!
I,ll even say nice things about the prime minister to avoid the cabbage ……then again ,screw it give me the cabbage .

Don’t worry FTATF, it’s boiled beef and carrots for the old stock. Cabbage is a side course that you can ignore, unless you want Ukranian stock.

#313 Setting the Record Straight on 09.19.15 at 12:13 pm

@303

The murdering Nazi totalitarian state condemns who? Why libertarians of course!

Pathetic

#314 Lorne on 09.19.15 at 12:19 pm

#202 kommykim on 09.18.15 at 11:16 pm
RE: #97 Jake Sambell on 09.18.15 at 7:44 pm
Look at Liberals and NDP like Ontario, B.C. which are about 50% of Canada’s population and their debt levels, high, high, high!
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The Liberals in BC are hardly Liberal. They are rehashed Socreds. Even the BC Liberal party was mulling changing their name in light of the fact that they are not really Liberals.
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Some do not understand this but it becomes very obvious when 2 “Liberal” MLAs decided to run for the “Conservative” nomination in this Federal election and one, Doug Horne, won the nomination and is actually running for the “Conservatives” in the riding of Coquitlam/Burke Mountain, to replace James Moore.

#315 Llewelyn on 09.19.15 at 12:20 pm

The comments on this blog seem to confirm that Canadian politics is more about what is in it for me than what might be good for our country.

I am very concerned that all political parties seem to have lost sight of the fact that Canada has been resting on their resource based and proximity to the United States laurels while the rest of the world is trying to define their place in the global economy.

We invested to create a well-educated population that has become focused on the accumulation of individual wealth. Our host on this blog has made no secret of the fact that the best route to wealth accumulation is to minimize investment in Maple. This may be good advice to follow if you don’t give a damn about the future of Canada but to me it indicates that short term self interest is pushing the viability of Canada as a nation into the shadows.

I am confused why no political party has proposed a vehicle that might encourage Canadians to support Canadian participation in underdeveloped economies. Prior to the election of Stephen Harper Canada had a well-deserved reputation as an independent peacemaker. We need to restore that reputation and use this reputation to introduce an alternative to the exploitation of underdeveloped countries by companies driven solely by the quest for maximum profits. When did compassion and treating other nations fairly become a sign of weakness?

I really feel it is time for Canadians to consider what the future will hold for their children, grandchildren and great grandchildren if Canada continues to act as if the word is not changing at an accelerating pace.

Tax free savings accounts and house prices!!! If this is what Canadians are concerned about we are in much worse shape than I could ever have imagined.

#316 Lorne on 09.19.15 at 12:23 pm

213 Eddie

I’m voting Harper, or rather NOT voting Muclair or Trudeau. If the NDP get in and start “tax creep”, I’ll get the hell out of here. I imagine many will do the same.
…..
If you need a ride to the airport, let me know!!

#317 broader mind on 09.19.15 at 12:27 pm

Ok,everyone is scared to comment on my new slogan. Isn’t it time Canada had a decent looking prime minister. Are you all blind to promotion of our country. When Revlon is looking for a spokesperson they don’t generally choose the worst looking possible candidate, so why would Canada. We need to be represented to the world as the young vibrant country that we are.Consider that as a Canadian population of 35 million and a land mass of 2.4 billion acres each citizen here presently has a holding of approximately 68 million acres.A typical Italian has only 1.08 acres per person. In essence we are we richer than we think and our choice for prime minister will not make any difference.Any long term futures trader knows Canadians will all win.

#318 Catalyst on 09.19.15 at 12:33 pm

@277

corporate budgets obviously…

#319 miketheengineer on 09.19.15 at 12:35 pm

Garth et al:

Strange thing happen! Notice, not one Federal, Provincial, or Municipal leader is doing anything to protect 80 and 90 year old pensioners and US Steel’s plan to shaft them and the Hamilton community….

Bravo…Conservatives
Bravo…Liberals
Bravo…NDP

Give your selves a big fat pay increase once you get elected for the “fine” work you have done…Bravo! Every one stand up and give them a round of applause…!

There is no one who will stand for the 80 and 90 year old pensioners…no one.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5919317-u-s-steel-canada-wants-to-scrap-pension-fund-payments-retiree-benefits-and-hamilton-taxes/

#320 broader mind on 09.19.15 at 12:38 pm

The posters here don’t want to agree that Justin should win based on looks alone,appearing shallow.Consider the popularity of Kardashins,Caitlin,Trump…. If Justin would just put a rose in his lapel and say fuddle duddle he would catapult to a majority win.Great for international spotlight on Canada.

#321 StandardDeviation on 09.19.15 at 12:39 pm

Alas, our politics is truly a celebration in mediocrity from every perspective. If you can’t please all the people all the time then you water down everything to not make everyone unhappy. It is just like the energy gradient always going down, except, we are heading for the lowest common denominator.
I had a visit from my conservative candidate the other evening, first time I have ever seen one at my home. He said the main reason he is standing is to simply get the job done? What a stellar basis for pursuing public office!
His web site says something similar and as a previous poster states, in a parliamentary democracy we vote for our riding member not Mr. H. Given the violent turn left in Alberta on our provincial election and the buyers remorse that I am hearing from a lot of unemployed folk. Another dose of Conservative diarrhea may be the lesser of 3 evils. See, the law of large numbers prevails towards the lowest common denominator. If we had a science advisor in place perhaps this might filter into the heads of these luddite politicians.

#322 crossbordershopper on 09.19.15 at 12:43 pm

vote for anyone who continues to provide a cheque to all the bumbs like me.
NDP is the one, do you really think someone who has nothing cares about capital gains tax rates or TFSA amounts.
WE PAY NO TAXES. NOTHING. and we want to keep it that way, so soak the rich the middle class, the foreigners, oil companies, banks anyone else. because having nothing is so liberating. I love it.
Everyone else is worried about their future, interest rates, is my pension going to be enough etc.
living in low end hamilton is beautifull. nothing changes when the libs are in or the tories. the dollar high or low,
Poor people get cheques every month, and of course work for cash on the side.

#323 Lorne on 09.19.15 at 12:45 pm

#299 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 11:15 am
#105: “They’ve managed four in a row in both Saskatchewan and Manitoba.”

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Ask Albertans how they feel.
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After 4 months….sure, seems like a reasonable idea (not!). They get their chance 4 years from now…..let’s see how things work out in between!

#324 Skip Breakfast on 09.19.15 at 1:02 pm

But I love how Harper never smiles with his eyes.

#325 Parsonage on 09.19.15 at 1:06 pm

#257 Freedom First

“I have tentatively made a decision. … I will be voting for the kid. The Libs it is. At least the kid sounds like he still has some humanity left in him. I see that as the best thing to vote for, sadly.

______________________________

Therefore we may anticipate a name/strategy change?

#326 Retired Boomer - WI on 09.19.15 at 1:14 pm

I can’t believe the number of people who suggest “just don’t vote”……..

Would you rather live in a place where you could NOT vote? How about a place where you only get one choice, or maybe two?

Be glad you have three four five choices there.

How many work on the campaign for their local MP? How many attend party meetings, or forums, or party gatherings? This is where politicians get to hear from you, your concerns, your fears in other words what is important to their constituents.

I will tell you, I attend these meetings, I work for my local guy, or gal to get them elected, or keep them when they are doing good work. No, not one of them is ever perfect, but I will do, and have done my part.

Do you just watch a televised debate then think who ‘looked good.’ Ever wonder why we elect the actors here?

RB

#327 chapter 9 on 09.19.15 at 1:22 pm

Voting for Mulcair because he said he will repeal C-51, ain’t going to happen. CSE,CSIS,RCMP will have the same chat that they had with Trudeau, repeal the bill and just one Canadian dies in this country because of a terrorist act their death is going to be on your head not ours.

#328 Mister Obvious on 09.19.15 at 1:23 pm

#310 Bytor the Snow Dog

“Conservative supporters lack the sophistication to see past one particular issue….the state of their wallets.”
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To be accurate, it’s the state of Canada’s wallet we are most concerned with. The term ‘supporter’ is also a stretch. The conservatives stink just a tiny bit less.

#329 kommykim on 09.19.15 at 1:25 pm

#215 Fay on 09.19.15 at 12:12 am
#190 kommykim on 09.18.15 at 10:38 pm:
“RE: #82 Ret on 09.18.15 at 7:29 pm
Why bother voting for any of them?
Sounds like you have decided to let someone else decide.”
Sounds like you have no grasp of statistics

Sounds like you have no grasp of how democracy works.

#330 he’d be gone in a year or two on 09.19.15 at 1:26 pm

#302 Broke Dick on 09.19.15 at 11:30 am

I fully expect he’d [Harper] be gone in a year or two. — Garth

The only certain way to get this happen is during election time, to make him lose his seat.

I fully expect him to be a king until his passing – if it was up to him.

#331 Steerage Bilge on 09.19.15 at 1:28 pm

Well if the commies get in it’ll be boiled beets, turnips and cabbage for the lot of us.

Mulcair’s a decent fellow, but way too many loonies in the backrooms, and he’s never done anything outside politics.

JT’s heart seems in the right place but man-o-man he can be goofy.

Harperman has got to go – fundamentally undemocratic. Nasty small minded dweep. I should have saved Canada and taken him out back in the day. He’s my neighbour – just knew he’d be a POS. Taking out our host is exactly the type of person he is.

A helluva choice this time around. All three of them have never really done anything outside politics. A three way tie would be wonderful.

#332 BS on 09.19.15 at 1:32 pm

For those so called libertarians who think “freedumb” is a society without the ‘interference’ of state government….

Try make a visit to a place like the Congo.

On your way to the Congo stop into North Korea where government controls everything. Let us know which you prefer.

#333 Newbie on 09.19.15 at 1:36 pm

Thanks Mr. Turner. I could feel it in the air while watching the three debating. Voting to punish does hurt.

#334 jess on 09.19.15 at 1:47 pm

symphony or cacophony

…finding the actors requires “tools” especially the chatter in those trading rooms….

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/17/us-symphony-expansion-idUSKCN0PR22R20150717

How new data-collection technology might change office culture -cbc

September 14, 2015
NYDFS REACHES AGREEMENTS WITH 4 MAJOR BANKS ON NEW SYMPHONY CHAT & MESSAGING PLATFORM
Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, Bank of New York Mellon Agree to Record-keeping Requirements and Other Protections to Help Ensure Responsible Use of Symphony Chat & Messaging
Symphony Marketing Materials Had Touted “Guaranteed Data Deletion” and Other Features That Could Have Hindered Investigations of Misconduct on Wall Street

http://www.dfs.ny.gov/banking/agree_symphony_09142015.htm

http://www.bettermarkets.com/newsroom/financial-reform-newsletter-september-18-2015

#335 Dan on 09.19.15 at 1:59 pm

I reckon this is the best endorsement I have ever read. Talk about holding your nose to vote.

#336 Godth on 09.19.15 at 2:52 pm

I think I’ll just look at the representatives that are running in this riding and choose accordingly. The only party that won’t get a look is the Cons. as they have chosen a leader that’s doing his best to turn this country into a surveillance state and a Theocratic Corporatocracy. I can live without that, thanks anyway.

Shouldn’t Harper and all his acolytes be in Israel trying to save souls before Armageddon?

#337 Love my Kia on 09.19.15 at 3:03 pm

264 Troy spelled backwards is Idiot on 09.19.15 at 8:13 am
#18 Vancouver Troy
“I never had kids. Don’t want to pay for someone else’s. Voting Cons.”

And I’ve never been to your house. I’m voting for whoever promises to cut off the internet over there.
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Thanks for the laugh of the day! I like the way you think!

#338 upset on 09.19.15 at 3:13 pm

i literally had Paul Calandra knock on my door for my vote today.

i said to him i was upset how Harper treated Garth Turner. his reponse “he was live blogging from caucaus”

i told him i was upset he borrowed money and raised the debt by 170B.
his response ” we never borrowed money to get out of the recession”

i said to him, if you’re conservative, why did you cut the GST, and not cut my taxes
his response ” i wish i could do both, and now your taxes are lowest in 20 years”

i shut the door on him, after i told him i wouldn’t vote for him, then it started to pour rain heavily.

i didn’t like his attitude.

I never met Paul Calandra, nor did I ever ‘live blog from caucus.’ Mr. Harper’s minions collected cellphones at the door of the caucus room. — Garth

#339 IHCTD9 on 09.19.15 at 3:33 pm

#21 Gulf Breeze on 09.18.15 at 5:55 pm
Harper is a neocon, in other words, a proto-fascist. They are a tremendous danger. We have edged closer to a police state with him and allied ourselves much more closely to the Anglo-American axis of weevils.

I don’t care if my taxes go up, WAY up. I want to be as far away ideologically, from this cabal of book burning bootlickers as I can be.

So go ahead, read my lips, “Bring on the taxes!”
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Unifor commissioned a study last year to look at the impact of GM Oshawa leaving, and the repercussions of the shrinking Auto industry (indeed, manufacturing as a whole) Canada wide. For the 3600 employees at the time (1000 more have been laid off since then, gone this November), 33,000 jobs in Ontario will eventually be lost in the support industries. In a nutshell, red tape, labour costs, energy costs, and yes – Taxes of all kinds are what combine to drive these big industries out.

Your preference of ideological voting for the purposes of punishment will only make things worse. Think about the big picture for a minute. 33 THOUSAND high paying Union jobs gone, the virtual eradication of big organized labour over the decades to come, BILLIONS in Municipal, Provincial, and Federal government revenue disappearing, a pounding the middle class has never seen before. Look at St. Thomas and Windsor, and look at the non existent options for replacement of these quality jobs. Once they move out, they are gone for good, the only thing keeping them here for the moment is the infrastructure that have poured billions into. ALL new auto investment has gone to the USA and Mexico, not one dime spent here. This is the proverbial canary in the coal mine.

You hate Harper? Great, but be smart for the sake of your fellow Canadians. Stop pouting for a minute and take a good emotion free look at the situation we are collectively facing. Voting for a Robin Hood anti- Corporation Socialist is going to slaughter what little is left for big paying unskilled and skilled labour, the Big 3 are literally looking for a good excuse to pack up and leave at this point.

What would JT and TM do after the announcement? 10’s of thousands of jobs gone, most going on EI, with the balance heading for 12.00/hr jobs.

Open your bloody eyes to what is going on, ideology does not put food on the table, ONLY good jobs can do that. Taxing the crap out of Canadians and Business is a long standing problem, not a fix. Making it worse will make things worse.

Ideological pursuits are for when the government bank accounts are bursting at the seams with revenues stemming from a booming economy and high wages. Save your utopian fantasies for when we can afford to gamble on them…

#340 upset on 09.19.15 at 3:33 pm

I never met Paul Calandra, nor did I ever ‘live blog from caucus.’ Mr. Harper’s minions collected cellphones at the door of the caucus room. — Garth
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yes. he lied to me a few times in less than 5 min.

#341 Deliverator on 09.19.15 at 3:37 pm

Giant fail, Garth. This is about far, far more than the economy.

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/vanishing-canada-why-were-all-losers-in-ottawas-war-on-data/

#342 souvereigninternational on 09.19.15 at 3:43 pm

#303 Steve French on 09.19.15 at 11:33 am

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/16/hitlers-world-may-not-be-so-far-away

“A common American error is to believe that freedom is the absence of state authority….”

“Not only the Holocaust, but all major German crimes took place in areas where state institutions had been destroyed, dismantled or seriously compromised. The German murder of five and a half million Jews, more than three million Soviet prisoners of war, and about a million civilians in so-called anti-partisan operations all took place in stateless zones.”

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Bingo.

For those so called libertarians who think “freedumb” is a society without the ‘interference’ of state government….

Try make a visit to a place like the Congo.

That’s what a place with very little or no state government looks like.

Remember that your vote counts.

____________________

STEVE FRENCH fries for brain. Man you are confused at very least….

as for all the others not happy with the three choices see this platform:

http://canadianactionparty.org/be-informed

judging by comments section they should be able to get at least 25%

#343 BestCandidates4Me on 09.19.15 at 3:50 pm

None of these parties are ideal for me but if we don’t get some individuals into office that can work toward pragmatic compromise and solve the root causes of problems like housing then we are doomed to kicking the can further down the road and making no progress in issues that keep the country under employed with more social unrest. Too many years of band aids and pandering are taking their toll… IMHO there isn’t a country around that is firing on all cylinders but Canada has real opportunity. I looked into the 3 big parties, thought about majorities, etc, etc… then I find out I am in Liz May’s riding in Victoria for the Green Party having sold my house in AB in summer of 2014 and moving here. I have to vote green just to get some better players in Parliament. The conservatives won’t even show up here in Victoria for their own riding to debate. I can’t reward that type of behavior… It is a paid position right???

#344 Greg on 09.19.15 at 4:00 pm

Garth’s problem was that he refused to acknowledge that Harper was the smartest man in the room.

#345 Alex Greene on 09.19.15 at 4:04 pm

I very much doubt that increasing the corporate tax from 15 to 17% will cause any corporations to fold or relocate. Not so long ago, the rate was at 26% and they did just fine, even during economic downturns like 2000 dot com bubble. Coincidentally, we also had a balanced budget that year.

#346 IHCTD9 on 09.19.15 at 4:23 pm

#318 miketheengineer on 09.19.15 at 12:35 pm
Garth et al:

Strange thing happen! Notice, not one Federal, Provincial, or Municipal leader is doing anything to protect 80 and 90 year old pensioners and US Steel’s plan to shaft them and the Hamilton community….

Bravo…Conservatives
Bravo…Liberals
Bravo…NDP

Give your selves a big fat pay increase once you get elected for the “fine” work you have done…Bravo! Every one stand up and give them a round of applause…!

There is no one who will stand for the 80 and 90 year old pensioners…no one.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5919317-u-s-steel-canada-wants-to-scrap-pension-fund-payments-retiree-benefits-and-hamilton-taxes/
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The steel industry is one I know well. You’ll note the article states USSC wants to discontinue production of 180 thousand tons per year of steel once destined to Canadian Auto plants. The demand is dying.

You see how everything is inter connected?

I hope zero taxes end up going to help them. The writing has been on the wall for years regarding the old Stelco plant. They will be gone in a couple years anyway. Steel demand in Ontario is way down, again due to the lack of demand created by manufacturing heading out the door.

Our potential new leaders are going to find themselves increasing taxes on a steadily shrinking income from a steadily shrinking manufacturing base. Then they can kiss the income taxes drawn from those ex employees good bye as well…

#347 Arfmooocat on 09.19.15 at 4:25 pm

Tom Mulcair, Justin Trudeau or Barney Rubble

#348 Almost A Boomer on 09.19.15 at 4:46 pm

Saying you want “change” is a cliche used by voters and the media. Most people would listen closely, if the discussion was about improvements and included practical suggestions on successfu implementation.
Harper and the Conservatives annoy me daily and it is disappointing that they are the only rational choice for people who want to keep some of their hard earned money and have hope that their children and grand children will have a decent standard of living. Businesses and rich individuals are not going to pay more taxes. Paul Martin, financial advisor to the Liberals registered his shipping fleet off shore to avoid paying Canadian taxes.

#349 jess on 09.19.15 at 4:48 pm

MF:
…just trying to understand your definition of “whiny.”
Thought you might enjoy other examples.

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The EPA and Carb discovered the “defeat device” software following independent analysis by researchers at West Virginia University, who were promoted into action by the International Council on Clean Technology, an NGO.

When confronted with the EPA and Carb’s evidence, VW admitted that its cars were fitted with the “defeat device”

#350 Leo Trollstoy on 09.19.15 at 4:52 pm

Tom Mulcair, Justin Trudeau or Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble hands down.

Honest and loyal.

Unlike TM or JT.

#351 DisgustMadeMePost on 09.19.15 at 5:06 pm

The ugly side of politics/politicians.
Thanks for the personal insight, Garth.

And while after reading the blog I respect your unwavering support of your principles, I think your experience is only pushing me further from voting C.

Your story only highlights how many other Canadians (old or new stock!) have been made to feel under Mr Harper’s direction.

Coming to mind for example the emaciated veterans dept, unbelievable senate appointments, and of course C51.

You may be able to bite your lip and minimize your experience with the man vs your political ideals, but there are MANY many more Canadians that felt that same cold shoulder.

Not voting C. Enough of this career control freak.
Will check out all other options in my area and choose from them.

Oh and my 23 yo nephew says its about C51 for him. Anyone who repeals it gets his vote.

#352 DisgustMadeMePost on 09.19.15 at 5:08 pm

Pffft!

If only Barney Rubble WAS running!

#353 Mike T. on 09.19.15 at 5:59 pm

so, the Great One endorses Harper and twitter goes insane!

in the clip I heard it sounded like Gretzky was being forced into saying his statement, but that might be my bias

folks, when you realize that humans are actually rapport based elections won’t matter

it’s a lesson in taking your power back

Mr. T your post today illustrates this perfectly, Harper did not stop you from helping people, he may in fact have given you the energy needed to see this through, through all the years

figure out what does not change before and after the election, that’s what matters

every election it’s the same…vote for change blah blah

what does not change?

#354 Capt. Obvious on 09.19.15 at 6:01 pm

The odds of the Liberals doing anything that is detrimental in the long run is close to nil. It’s certainly no worse than with the conservatives running the circus.
I have no idea why anyone would vote NDP, but I’m not exactly their support base.
I’m pretty sure we’ll end up with a short term minority government. That’ll give us a chance to bask in the absence of Steve and figure out what to do next. Seems reasonable to me.

#355 Media Watcher on 09.19.15 at 6:05 pm

There are obviously pin headed Harper Haters in the dozens posting thousands of ‘social media’ messages on every platform. I don’t think anyone has missed the dogged minions at CBC, CTV, The Globe and Star lavishing negative innuendo on Harper as a racist, bad guy, snoozer….etc etc etc .

Note to barking seals….you’re not fooling anyone. When we all saw Mansbridge break out in tears when the Libs went down and saw the very next day our leftist media attack like panicked piranhas …we have all followed the Hate Harper camp from the beginning….and yet Canadians are not swayed, misled or fooled.

Message to all malcontent ‘social media experts’….you’re doomed…..you’re having no effect on anyone and Harper is still on top in the polls when it counts…at election time.

If losing was a game…the Libs are on a streak.

“Rise Up…Rise Up” cried Goof Ball Iggy when he spoke to Canadians while never relinquishing his teaching job in the US.

Note to IGGY…we did rise up….and elected a Canadian who wants a better country for all Canadians.

3 Cheers for PM Harper…keeping Canada an island of tranquility in the events swirling around us in an uncertain world.

#356 John Prine on 09.19.15 at 6:07 pm

15 Lorne on 09.19.15 at 12:23 pm
213 Eddie

I’m voting Harper, or rather NOT voting Muclair or Trudeau. If the NDP get in and start “tax creep”, I’ll get the hell out of here. I imagine many will do the same.
…..
If you need a ride to the airport, let me know!!

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Always amazed at how many that frequent this blog can just throw a suitcase together and move to anywhere else in the world when threatened with a few hundred dollars in tax…We would have to quit jobs, say goodbye to family, sell house and cars, apply for citizenship wherever we were intending on moving etc….One can only party in Thailand, Mexico or other (better than Canada) location…Don’t like any of the big three particularly but realize our pretty good life won’t change much whoever is raving in Ottawa. That being said, Harper is one scary guy, creeps most women we now out completely….

#357 Leo Trollstoy on 09.19.15 at 6:33 pm

The odds of the Liberals doing anything that is detrimental in the long run is close to nil.

Another poster blinded by ideology who forgets that all parties consist of human beings.

#358 Leo Trollstoy on 09.19.15 at 6:34 pm

in the clip I heard it sounded like Gretzky was being forced into saying his statement, but that might be my bias

That’s your bias

Gretzky didn’t need to be ‘forced’ into publicly supporting Harper

#359 Linda on 09.19.15 at 6:35 pm

Regarding Harper ‘being gone in a year or two’ – this makes the presumption he’d leave of his own accord. Let’s see – based on the record, the man has control issues that can be seen from the moon. Sorry folks, but those who have such a need to control every aspect of life are highly unlikely to ‘leave’ – be dragged, kicking & screaming & vowing revenge to the door maybe, but ‘leave’? I don’t think so.

Regarding ‘paying for someone else’s children’ – our society is based on all of us paying towards the common good, which includes paying for other’s children, parents, health care, social benefits, infrastructure etc. And I’d not be too quick to diss the children of others – the plan, for those who have missed it, is that said children will become good little taxpayers & pay for OUR social benefits, pensions, health care, infrastructure etc. Don’t get caught up in the ‘I didn’t want kids’ aspect; if it consoles at all, get into the ‘what is in it for me’ & review the children becoming taxpayers bit. One day we all of us will be old & maybe needing ‘the children’ to take care of us when we are too old/decrepit to take care of ourselves……

#360 Leo Trollstoy on 09.19.15 at 6:38 pm

I would recommend you read Paul Krugman before you write your next blog—it would do you a world of good.

No.

Krugman is a biased liberal hack

#361 triplenet on 09.19.15 at 6:40 pm

#341 Alex Greene

Investors will go on strike for 2% just as easy as school teachers and auto workers will.
In fact a lot of investors are school teachers and auto workers.
Go figure.

#362 espressobob on 09.19.15 at 6:59 pm

I’m voting for my cat “B.A.”. And below should be the new formation of parliament.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/09/11/toronto-feline-fans-to-open-citys-first-cat-cafe.html

#363 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 7:08 pm

“Seems a lot of people will, as in Alberta recently, vote to punish.”

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I don’t know if it’s so much to punish. We’re just sick and tired of the status quo. Harper has an attitude problem.

#364 ANON on 09.19.15 at 7:12 pm

Thank you for sharing that, Garth.
Although I do not share your optimism that whomever is in power can actually influence outcomes, being more of the opinion that even a handicapped person (or a whole bunch of them) with an IQ of under 100 can have said position(s) while in a narrative gone haywire, where everyone is promising left-and-right-up-and-down to deliver the impossible, I do believe it will matter a bit who is in charge after the promises are broken.
However, whomever will be in power over the next term will be crucified, you can count on that. After the promises are broken, and the dust settles, it may mater, to start a new narrative. Only after, and only a bit. History shows the narrative chosen after the promises were broken was quite dire to say the least.

#365 Herf on 09.19.15 at 7:15 pm

#337 IHCTD9

“Your preference of ideological voting for the purposes of punishment will only make things worse. Think about the big picture for a minute. 33 THOUSAND high paying Union jobs gone, the virtual eradication of big organized labour over the decades to come, BILLIONS in Municipal, Provincial, and Federal government revenue disappearing, a pounding the middle class has never seen before. Look at St. Thomas and Windsor, and look at the non existent options for replacement of these quality jobs. Once they move out, they are gone for good, the only thing keeping them here for the moment is the infrastructure that have poured billions into. ALL new auto investment has gone to the USA and Mexico, not one dime spent here. This is the proverbial canary in the coal mine.”

Then all the unemployed union members can be hired by the (new) socialist government (/sarc).

For all the ranting against Harper (and there are things about which I’d like to kick his arse up to his earlobes), his is the first and only government that I’m aware of that has attempted to reign in the public service gravy train (i.e. banked sick-leave benefits) amongst (unionized) federal snivel servants (of which I was once one until I fired my employer). I think the majority of Canadians wouldn’t object to having the playing field between themselves and a group of people whom they view as entitled and underworked (not always true), leveled with regards to employee benefits (be nice if they tackled pensions too). The political hack leaders and MPs would probably earn more respect if they made similar and serious efforts (and succeeded) to substantially cut their own salaries, benefits and perks, instead of automatically voting themselves raises every few years, but it’s not in their political DNA to do so.

But don’t expect to hear such a suggestion (to cut MP or snivel servant salaries and/or benefits) from the likes of Mulcair, given the NDP satellite-office spending scandal:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ndp-mps-on-the-hook-for-2-75m-spent-on-satellite-offices-1.2219701

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/ndp-mps-sue-house-of-commons-committee-over-2-7-million-bill-for-satellite-offices

particularly now that Mulcair is a citizen of socialist France:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/thomas-mulcair-defends-dual-citizenship-1.1184291

It’s noteworthy that even Mulcair’s predecessor, the late Jack Layton, condemned Mulcair’s dual citizenship.

#366 pete on 09.19.15 at 7:21 pm

I dislike all of the parties and there are no independents in my riding so I’m voting BLOC again. I hope they can form the official opposition to a majority government with Mulcair as PM. Harper and his neo-cons have destroyed Canada beyond repair in my opinion. Either those in the ROC take Canada back and return it to it’s better days or we in Quebec will have to solidify our ‘homeland’.

#367 Herf on 09.19.15 at 7:26 pm

#344 Almost A Boomer

“Paul Martin, financial advisor to the Liberals registered his shipping fleet off shore to avoid paying Canadian taxes.”

I seem to recall Alan Fotheringham (“Dr. Foth”) referring to Paul Martin as Canada’s biggest tax dodger.

#368 Harbour on 09.19.15 at 7:26 pm

Barney Rubble… ha ha, good one.

From the eyes to the hair

#369 saskatoon on 09.19.15 at 7:27 pm

#118 Cp

THEFT.
IS.
NOT.
COMPASSION.

#370 Parksville Senior on 09.19.15 at 7:37 pm

“KRUGMAN IS A BIASED LIBERAL HACK”

It would be easy fro a neocon to be of that opinion because he absolutely refuses to cater to ignorance.

Their seems to be an attitude amongst the cons that no matter how ignorant and downright stupid their position may be i.e. Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Rand Paul ad infinitum, it deserves as much respect as scientific truth.

And if we carry on with the war on education and science being waged by the Harper cons, you will have dumbed down the population to the equivalent of the Tea Party Creationists that vote Republican.

Your posting deserves only contempt, and I often wonder why I bother posting on here. Garth seems to only respond to low hanging fruit that he can ridicule.

Have a nice day

#371 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 7:41 pm

#293: “Vote for the candidate that will do you the least harm.”

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Well, that rules out Harper…a proven fact.

#372 Bill on 09.19.15 at 7:49 pm

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#373 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 7:53 pm

#310: “I want ‘first past the post’ GONE.”

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We need to have this explained to us in greater detail so that we fully understand. It has been proposed before but failed to convince.

#374 Setting the Record Straight on 09.19.15 at 7:57 pm

@362

Gosh, if the Bloc would run in the ROC, I might make an exception and vote. They have a policy I could get behind. They might even win without Quebec.

#375 johnsaccy on 09.19.15 at 8:01 pm

Harper creeps me out. I am the type of individual who in theory should be voting conservative.

I just can’t do it to myself. Unless, there is a change in CPC leadership and a new fresh face (Not Jason Kenney), I will not be voting for CPC.

This time for better or for worse, I am voting Liberals.

NDP support will likely decrease when their promises does not meet balanced budgets.

#376 Leo Trollstoy on 09.19.15 at 8:14 pm

#293: “Vote for the candidate that will do you the least harm.”

That rules out the Libs. Proven fact.

#377 Old Stock Greater Fool Commenter on 09.19.15 at 8:19 pm

Garth, since some of us have been here since before 2010, shouldn’t we get some special treatment too?

I suggest private massage and aromatherapy sessions with the amazons, as well as free puppy grooming and boarding. Monthly coupons for these should be about right.

As for the younger immigrants to this blog, make them use Paypal to sign up, at least $50 annually, and charge them $25 every time you delete them or grace their comments with one of your clever ripostes.

The surplus can be used for our benefits, and should help cover your PTSD treatments for reading all of Mark’s missives while still recovering from Harper’s assholier-than-thou treatment you endured.

Sounds fair to this old stocker!

#378 Bratustra on 09.19.15 at 8:33 pm

I am voting for Conservatives because they are the only party, who has no plans to disarm lawful gun owners.
History shows,nazis and commies first take out peoples guns, and then kill them in concentration camps.

Who let you in? — Garth

#379 DisgustMadeMePost on 09.19.15 at 8:36 pm

Just saw the latest NDP tv ad ….

A copy of the con ads… Sitting around a board room table the group is discussing Harpers failings . Then the punch line: Stephen Harper, Time to let him go. Nice hair, though.

Touché

#380 nbe on 09.19.15 at 8:38 pm

It’s strange to say but I admire you more knowing that Harper went to such lengths to cause you pain. I have always viewed Harper along with George W and Putin (not comparing anything but my dislike of them). All three should be put on an island so they can terrorize each other and leave the rest of us out of it.

#381 rainclouds on 09.19.15 at 8:44 pm

#372 troll

Ok Steve, get back on the campaign plane. there’s donuts! lots of donuts………

#382 IHCTD9 on 09.19.15 at 8:46 pm

#352 John Prine on 09.19.15 at 6:07 pm

Always amazed at how many that frequent this blog can just throw a suitcase together and move to anywhere else in the world when threatened with a few hundred dollars in tax…We would have to quit jobs, say goodbye to family, sell house and cars, apply for citizenship wherever we were intending on moving etc….One can only party in Thailand, Mexico or other (better than Canada) location…Don’t like any of the big three particularly but realize our pretty good life won’t change much whoever is raving in Ottawa. That being said, Harper is one scary guy, creeps most women we now out completely….
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Nobody’s leaving Canada because their tax bill went up $300.00. Some folks look to the future potential resulting from today’s policies and make decisions designed to have them escape, or minimize that which they believe is coming down the pipe.

I see taxes going up, and I don’t even consider the small detriment to myself, but rather the broader implications on those working for already depressed wages facing our bedraggled manufacturing sector. I consider how this will affect the all important consumer spending. I consider the potential tax revenue drop for our government that could result from the tax hike. I consider the fallout in my own industry and even on my employer. I add it all up, and one day, the sum could be “time to leave”, before I loose my job and end up working at Timmies be use my employment sector has been beaten to death.

Also known as “getting out while the gettings good”…

#383 chapter 9 on 09.19.15 at 8:58 pm

Too bad Junior didn’t follow Sarah, his half sister that attended the Wharton School of Economics just maybe he would have picked up some pointers on how business or finance works rather tax and spend and borrow like good old dad!!

#384 IHCTD9 on 09.19.15 at 9:04 pm

#366 Parksville Senior on 09.19.15 at 7:37 pm
“KRUGMAN IS A BIASED LIBERAL HACK”

It would be easy fro a neocon to be of that opinion because he absolutely refuses to cater to ignorance.

Their seems to be an attitude amongst the cons that no matter how ignorant and downright stupid their position may be i.e. Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Rand Paul ad infinitum, it deserves as much respect as scientific truth.

And if we carry on with the war on education and science being waged by the Harper cons, you will have dumbed down the population to the equivalent of the Tea Party Creationists that vote Republican.

Your posting deserves only contempt, and I often wonder why I bother posting on here. Garth seems to only respond to low hanging fruit that he can ridicule.

Have a nice day
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If you are going to be attacking Harper, try adding a little Canadian content to your boneheaded tripe next time.

#385 Sheane Wallace on 09.19.15 at 9:05 pm

#352 John Prine
#342 IHCTD9

The economy that we have left is artificial. There is reason Harper is playing with the housing, what we have as economy is actually one giant housing bubble and some services. That’s it.
The policy to ‘insure’ uninsurable risk and drive excessive credit growth has shifted all the energy in unproductive economic activities. Banks lend money that should not be lent ‘insured’ by federal government. Banks make big money with no risk, the money lent flow into the economy creating construction jobs, banking jobs, real estate jobs, insurance jobs, handymen jobs. These people with jobs spend to sustain and create retail, service, education jobs.
There is no manufacturing left, Bombardier is struggling (the Brazilians are killing it), Blackberry is literally gone.
Apart from the chain fueled by cheap unsustainable credit growth we have food production and that’s it.
And maybe some pharmaceuticals. We created a money illusion with overblown housing and asset valuations. Fool’s paradise.
The housing boom while accounting for the artificial economic activity in the last 10 + years has completely destroyed by the means of capital malinvestment and misallocation everything else that we had, damaging unrepairable our ability to be competitive.
It is very easy to buy, fix, flip a house, or to make 200 % gains on flipping a condo leveraged 20 times, due to stupid and irresponsible government policies (just read Harper’s statement on housing, he sounded so pathetically delusional that it is outright scary). Everybody dives into housing (there are over 20 k real estate agents in Ontario), huge numbers of flippers and speculators, incentivized by lack of risk (Harper’s ‘put’ on housing).
A house in the middle of nowhere in Scarborough is ‘worth’ 800 k.
Shitty bungalow in Toronto – 1.2 mil (it was 260 k 15 years ago)
The same in Vancouver – 1.5 mil for a house worth 350 k 15 years ago.
Cities and municipal governments depending on inflated tax revenue from housing.
We manufacture no shoes in this country.
Steal production in demise.
Auto production is assembly of manufactured elsewhere parts.
Houses made out of wood particles and cardboard with one layer of decorative bricks. Huge heating costs and cooling/air conditioning costs, glass condos with huge maintenance fees.
Provinces in debt up to their eyeball. Hydro one to be privatised, huge cuts coming in every layer of government services in Ontario (and that with a liberal government).
No wonder kids have no chance to find any decent job after graduation. Starbucks jobs, if lucky. Starbucks actually has better benefits (ironic as they are an American company and we are better than the Americans /sarcasm off).
Businesses staying afloat by the virtue of low corporate taxes.
Of the whole 2 trillion per year economy real is 30-40 %, the rest is smoke and mirrors. Houses would need not to just level but to keep rising causing ‘feel rich’ effect for the party to keep going on. It is one giant Ponzi scheme that will end up with the destruction of the CAD.
This is accelerated by the unexpected drop in oil. In the global geo political games Canada is one of the biggest losers.
I don’t see how that could be fixed and firmly believe that not just savers and pensioners on fixed income, but the whole consumption driven economy would be creamed.
There are two possible outcomes:
– The most severe depression we have ever had accelerated by global conditions
Or
– Huge inflation and destruction of meaningful real consumption.
Gliding path could leave us with both – severe inflationary depression.
Hope alone would not help, accompanied with lies and deception could keep the house of cards standing for a little while longer. Fallout form the biggest credit bubble is inevitable. Cannot understand why a sane person would run in the coming elections cycle.
What scares me the most are the coming socialists and the inevitable capital controls. Drinking (the most expensive alcohol on earth in LCBO) only helps temporarily.
Abundance of cheap labour while fulfilling a delusional leader’s and capitalists’ wet dreams will not help the economy in long run in an open world. And in absence of meaningful consumption and destroyed savings due to declining CAD what would be driving the economy, innovation and R&D with our low productivity? One can get indebted serfs to clean the house for a miserable pay but would not motivate a person to be creative and competitive. Communism tried and failed. They at least tried to provide jobs for everyone.

#386 Sheane Wallace on 09.19.15 at 9:08 pm

damn spell checker. steel production

#387 IHCTD9 on 09.19.15 at 9:19 pm

#359 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 7:08 pm

I don’t know if it’s so much to punish. We’re just sick and tired of the status quo. Harper has an attitude problem
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Hopefully, you see some benefit in the other two? I’d much rather have an asshole running the show and have a job, than collecting EI with a cool dude at the helm.

Another poster mentioned working for an insufferable employer. I was in the same boat, working for a colossal arse with the thickest skull imaginable. I was overjoyed when a much younger, much friendlier fellow bought the company. What a nice change. Better hair too.

I was out of a job 3 years later…

#388 Nora Lenderby on 09.19.15 at 9:28 pm

#366 Parksville Senior on 09.19.15 at 7:37 pm
And if we carry on with the war on education and science being waged by the Harper cons, you will have dumbed down the population to the equivalent of the Tea Party Creationists that vote Republican.
Your posting deserves only contempt, and I often wonder why I bother posting on here.

I think Mr. Krugman is spot on. Unfortunately there is a profit centre devoted to making up stuff that allows world affairs, especially science, to be treated as some kind of gladiatorial sport. People’s (especially poorly informed people’s) opinions are considered to be somehow superior to boring facts.

Sadly most people would rather watch a narrative constructed about some sporting franchise or a celebrity lose her underwear on stage than think.

#389 Freedom First on 09.19.15 at 9:43 pm

#324 Parsonage

Don’t worry about me. I live by 2 rules. 1)Look after me. 2) Help others.

It works. Trust me.

#390 Nora Lenderby on 09.19.15 at 9:47 pm

#365 saskatoon on 09.19.15 at 7:27 pm
THEFT…

You still haven’t done your homework, have you saskatoon? It’s an essay question:

Manifesto: Describe your ideal society, in a fashion similar to Plato’s Republic. Be brief. (25 marks)

Implementation: In point form show how to achieve this, considering what you see around you today. (10 marks)

#391 Nora Lenderby on 09.19.15 at 9:58 pm

#308 Nagraj on 09.19.15 at 12:05 pm
…And NORA BLENDERY: you’ve been so serious lately. Did you not win the regatta? Instead of “What Womyn Want” as a title, how about “Git Off Me, Stupid!”?

We speak of great matters of state, no less, Mr. N! Not exactly comedy material, except for your notorious emissions.

What women want? Well, I imagine that an end to poverty, world peace now, and, in general, nicer things would probably about cover it, wouldn’t you?

BTW, I find it’s easiest not to let Stupid get on me in the first place.

Oh, and a cure for all diseases…

#392 Leo Trollstoy on 09.19.15 at 10:26 pm

Speaking of living in ignorance… Everybody knows that Krugman is a biased liberal hack. Just read almost any of his articles. They’re all pro-left-wing partisan junk. All of them.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/05/09/paul-krugman-nations-most-partisan-economist-study-finds

#393 Smoking Man on 09.19.15 at 10:36 pm

Rejectionist.

It was a hot topic at Bilderburg this year. The machine is ten steps ahead of the herd.

Trump leading the GOP, not so much because of him..More the others are getting Rejected.

Machine knew years ago Hapro and incumbents the world over will be rejected.

He will be fine, he can work for onex , with his buddy Nigal Wright. Company owned by Gerry Shwarts. By the way, his wife Heather Riceman. Who happans to be the lady who runs the steering committee of Bulderberg.

Plan B

11 mortgages later and easly purchased non other than Tommy Boy…

The commies are going to be in for one big disappointment after he wins.

#394 Steve French on 09.19.15 at 10:39 pm

#312

try read the article and understand it first before you arrive at your knee jerk conclusion.

Loser.

#395 Smoking Man on 09.19.15 at 10:39 pm

#384 Freedom First on 09.19.15 at 9:43 pm
#324 Parsonage

Don’t worry about me. I live by 2 rules. 1)Look after me. 2) Help others.

It works. Trust me.

Kind of like flying, in the event of rapid decompreson , put your mask on first before helping others.

#396 Marco on 09.19.15 at 10:44 pm

Sep 19 2015:
“The longer the Fed delays now, the higher interest rates will eventually have to go,” said Paul Ashworth, chief U.S. economist, Capital Economics. “Inflation is coming.”

No way the Fed will wait for their property market to turn bubbly like ours.

Cheers.

#397 For those about to flop... on 09.19.15 at 10:49 pm

Garth,just wondering when you invisaged the Tfsa did an annual limit come to mind or were you just more concerned about getting it set up in the first place?

I planned no limit, viewing it entirely as a retirement savings vehicle. — Garth

#398 For those about to flop... on 09.19.15 at 10:54 pm

Oh I forgot ,does the prime minister really have that big of a nose?I hadn’t really noticed,maybe because I view him as a male Madusa…. I try not to look at him in the eye I case he tries to kill me.

#399 45north on 09.19.15 at 10:57 pm

Mr. Trudeau says the rich will pay and the rest will benefit, which is a fairy tale.

Both he and Mr. Mulcair say corporations will hand over billions more a year in levies – another fable.

fairy tales we just cannot afford them.

Daisy Mae: “I am against him for his war on science, whether it is muzzling federal scientists or dumping the long form census….”

Harper has no business muzzling anyone.

much of the attack on science in the Federal Government has nothing to do with Harper at all. There is one court decision ruling in favour of blind people that has done wide spread irreversible damage to science. Regulations are now in place that mean that if blind people cannot see it then nobody can.

the information content of the Canadian Government has been vastly reduced. Mulcair and Trudeau will make big speeches but they will make it worse.

Here’s my post about the Canadian Soil Information Service:

http://www.greaterfool.ca/2015/01/02/defiance/#comment-342790

#400 Nagraj on 09.19.15 at 11:05 pm

excerpts from The Commonwealth Gazetteer

ENGLAND
is all worked up about Mr. Corbyn pointedly refusing to sing God Save The Queen (at an important military commemorative affair). He explained he doesn’t sing it because it’s a stupid song.

NEW ZEALAND
is all worked up about the BANNING of some book. The last time books were banned in New Zealand was 1960; one of the two books banned then was “Lolita”.

AUSTRALIA
is still worked up about its new PM. (This business of hanging one PM after another happens very frequently Down Under.) The new PM is the wealthiest Australian PM ever, and is expected to whip the working class –

CANADA
A company in that largely uninhabitable nation is seeking legal permission to murder 20,000 pensioners in the quaint city of Hamilton, and to deprive their relatives of dentures and reading glasses.

KIRIBATI
The people of Kiribati are very afraid of being drowned by the rising water level of the Pacific, and have recently made it perfectly clear they do not appreciate other people making fun of their nightmares.

INDIA
Millions of Indians are asking themselves just exactly when will Ashutosh Gowariker’s “Mohenjo Daro” starring Hritik Roshan hit the nation’s countless cinemas.

#401 Ralph Cramdown on 09.19.15 at 11:11 pm

#308 Nagraj — “[MSM reported] that fateful PLUNGE day BUT it was like a weather report MINUS notice that the season had suddenly changed because the planet reversed rotational direction: MSM is NOT reporting that the top is in. MSM is NOT saying that BTFD is so yesterday.”

I don’t think you want to get your market timing advice from the mainstream media, unless as a contrarian indicator.

Personally, I think this bull may have a LONG way to run. Lower commodity prices and a devalued Yuan are good for the US consumer. Yes, US multinationals will be reporting lower dollar earnings with the high dollar. But housing starts, having climbed 50% (SFH) or 100% (all) from the bottom, are still only at levels we’ve seen as bottoms going back to the mid 1960s. They’ll grind higher, and drag the economy along with.

Where else are investors going to put their money? Europe? Brave, but not for everyone. Emerging markets? Not with these commodity prices. Government bonds? Ugh. Sir John Templeton said “Bull markets are born on pessimism, grown on skepticism, mature on optimism and die on euphoria.” I don’t think people were even feeling particularly optimistic at this summer’s peak. We’re still in the skepticism phase, as screwed up as that is, six years off the bottom.

N.B. About Stelco. A long time ago I got a position in a cost centre type department of a big Bay Street brokerage. Stelco was in trouble, and the stock went all the way down to a buck. I thought that was a bit overdone, but I was very young, insecure, and not too wealthy. I asked the director of my department how much lower he thought it could go (cost centre! who cares what he thought!) and he snarked “I believe the traditional limit is zero.” I bumped into the firm’s industrials analyst, and he said “dead cat bounce,” which was funny, because it was just lying there. I didn’t invest. Could’ve made a bunch, short term. The moral, as I took it, is these analysts don’t know zip. You don’t even want to know who the precious miners analyst was at that firm then… but maybe some of you can guess.

I’ve gotten smarter. When Bombardier’s shares were recently swirling around the bowl, I didn’t ask anyone’s opinion. Then the other week, they flew the new jet to Toronto. I tried to talk my way into the presser, but couldn’t seal the deal. Maybe when the flak asked me how long I’d been a shareholder… If I’d admitted I was in the black, it would have given away that I’d either owned them for 90 years or a few weeks. Unsurprisingly, the shares popped as the Toronto crowd saw for themselves that the thing flies and is quiet, not believing earlier reports from Montreal. I sold that afternoon.

#402 Bottoms_Up on 09.19.15 at 11:17 pm

#373 Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 7:53 pm
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First past post is the current system, where the number of MPs elected determines government.

Compare that to proportional representation, where the number of votes across the country determines representation.

In option 1, the green party might get 5% of the national vote, but have zero representation. In option 2, they would have 5% representation. Option 2 seems more democratic.

#403 Bottoms_Up on 09.19.15 at 11:23 pm

#365 Herf on 09.19.15 at 7:15 pm
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I’m calling your bluff, if you truly once worked in the federal public service you would know sick leave accumulates but can’t be cashed in for a cash payout. People bank their sick leave in order to cover days off until they can receive disability payments, in the unfortunate event something happens to them and they can’t work.

Shame on you for throwing around “banked sick days” like it was some type of drain on society.

#404 Tom from Mississauga on 09.19.15 at 11:27 pm

I’m canvassing for the Cons but the real Dilemma is the FCA-UAW deal that is going to lead to the closing of the Chrysler car plant in Brampton and its move to Mexico.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/chrysler/2015/09/17/uaw-fca-deal/32559393/

#405 Millmech on 09.19.15 at 11:31 pm

So as far as I can ascertain from our local NDP candidate,anyone with assets over $500,000 is going to get a special wealth tax,so if you have a home or anything else(investments)over that get ready for a special tax,the more you make the more they take

#406 Ralph Cramdown on 09.19.15 at 11:35 pm

“Everybody knows that Krugman is a biased liberal hack.”

If you traded as if he was right, you made money. If you traded against him, you lost money. His macroeconomic calls have been more right than most economists’. If you know of more biased liberal hacks like him, please send links.

#407 Min InMission on 09.20.15 at 12:03 am

400 posts, wow, popular

#408 Future Expatriate on 09.20.15 at 12:24 am

Can’t tax the rich or corporations or they’ll leave?

Tax them wherever they go or they leave with nothing, can’t ever come back, and can never do business in your country again.

There are ways short of guillotines to encourage people do the right thing. Otherwise it’s a race to the bottom of the nearest tax haven.

#409 Boombust on 09.20.15 at 12:40 am

#324

“…Harper never smiles with his eyes”.

That’s because the man is a psychopath.

#410 chapter 9 on 09.20.15 at 12:56 am

“Canada isn’t doing well right now because it’s Albertans who control our community and socio-democratic agenda. It doesn’t work. Would Canada be better served with more Quebecers in Ottawa?” I’m a Liberal so of course I believe that”—Justin Trudeau

#411 M on 09.20.15 at 1:16 am

Gartho baby.. explain THIS !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/bank-of-england/11874061/Negative-interest-rates-could-be-necessary-to-protect-UK-economy-says-Bank-of-England-chief-economist.html

:)

#412 Lorne on 09.20.15 at 1:30 am

#382 IHCTD9
…..
#352 John Prine

Always amazed at how many that frequent this blog can just throw a suitcase together and move to anywhere else in the world when threatened with a few hundred dollars in tax…We would have to quit jobs, say goodbye to family, sell house and cars, apply for citizenship wherever we were intending on moving etc….One can only party in Thailand, Mexico or other (better than Canada) location…Don’t like any of the big three particularly but realize our pretty good life won’t change much whoever is raving in Ottawa. That being said, Harper is one scary guy, creeps most women we now out completely….
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Nobody’s leaving Canada because their tax bill went up $300.00. Some folks look to the future potential resulting from today’s policies and make decisions designed to have them escape, or minimize that which they believe is coming down the pipe.

I see taxes going up, and I don’t even consider the small detriment to myself, but rather the broader implications on those working for already depressed wages facing our bedraggled manufacturing sector. I consider how this will affect the all important consumer spending. I consider the potential tax revenue drop for our government that could result from the tax hike. I consider the fallout in my own industry and even on my employer. I add it all up, and one day, the sum could be “time to leave”, before I loose my job and end up working at Timmies be use my employment sector has been beaten to death.

Also known as “getting out while the gettings good”…
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If you, and anyone else who feels the need to leave Canada when the NDP or Liberals are elected, could send me your name and address, I will ensure that arrangements are made for your departure……in fact, I think this should become imperative if you decide to make this statement.

#413 cynically on 09.20.15 at 2:01 am

To #370 – AMEN! Forget #360, probably a Canadian Tea Partyer but for Canada’s sake I sure hope not!

#414 Freedom First on 09.20.15 at 6:01 am

#391 Nora Lenderby

#308 Nagraj. You were bested by Nora, and rightfully so as you are clueless when it comes to women.

What women want?

Billy Idol explained it all decades ago. With one line. “With a Rebel yell, she cried More More More”.

This is a the female trait of female hegemony. It is in their dna. It is not to be feared or hated , as it is just their nature. Just don’t live with any woman or have a kid with her, or you will never escape the constant nagging from her, of either, more more more, or, nothing ever being good enough, or, just not enough period. You cannot win. No charge. Wisdom is free on Garth’s Blog. You’re welcome.

#415 Freedom First on 09.20.15 at 6:12 am

#395 Smoking Man

Exactly. Even H.

Sorry Garth. Principles.

#416 Who Hates Harper? on 09.20.15 at 6:14 am

REGARDING: The October 2015 Federal Election in Canada

Who Hates Harper?

Noticing once again that some people have a rabid hatred of the Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Conservative party, I decided to look into the matter objectively and without bias to find out what was behind all the irrational fury. The results of my research were illuminating. While there were some legitimate reasons for disliking Harper and some of his policies, most of the rage against Harper was based on the impure motives and obvious moral failings of the haters. Listed below are some of the major reasons why some people hate Harper, which I discovered by simply asking people questions and reading the newspaper with an open mind.

First of all, some people are just plain IGNORANT. They do not really know anything about any of the candidates, or political parties, or issues. Sneaky and malicious opposition party politicians with their own shameful agendas tell these unsuspecting dupes that Stephen Harper is somehow “bad” and that “everyone is mad at him.” These “useful idiots” are urged to jump on the band-waggon, drink the kool-aide, and join the hate-on. Of course, Stephen Harper is simply the innocent victim of a political smear campaign. Nasty politicians like Justin Trudeau and Tom Mulcair have, not surprisingly, actually sunk to such a low level that they go around promoting hatred. Some people even go around mindlessly repeating the complaint that Stephen Harper is guilty of “contempt of parliament,” without even stopping to consider the fact that some of the behaviour of the opposition politicians in parliament really is contemptible!

Some people are POWER HUNGRY and are simply frustrated that Stephen Harper has outperformed them. These opposition politicians want to be in the Prime Minister’s Office so they can do whatever they want to do. They are extremely frustrated that Stephen Harper was fairly and duly elected to pursue his political party’s programs, and that he is not doing the pogroms that the opposition parties want him to do. After losing the last election, the opposition politicians spent their time carping, criticizing, complaining, scheming, and plotting like politicians are known to do, rather than working on improving themselves.

Some people WANT CHANGE. These are mostly the power-hungry political losers mentioned just above. They are tired of being defeated at the polls and want to be in power for a change. That is the major “change” that they want. They have nothing good to offer, other than the usual false promises and false hopes, of course. They hope to trick enough people into voting for this particular “change” that they want for their own selfish reasons.

Some people are GLOBAL WARMING ACTIVISTS who want to shut down Canadian industry and have Canada pay billions of dollars in “climate change reparations” to rinky-dink countries around the world whenever the usual, regular floods wash away one of the mud hut villages that they built on a flood plane (since that is where the fertile soil is). They want to muzzle all sceptics and critics of this outrageous plan to defraud and destroy Canada, but continue to be frustrated by serious science advisers breaking the silence and getting the truth to Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Some people are DRUG ADDICTS and fear that Stephen Harper will not approve of their drug-fried minds. They want someone who will legalize drugs like marijuana and others. With all the never-ending expansion of their minds, and the creativity, that the drugs are supposed to bring, somehow all they can ever think about is that their illegal drugs are the most important issue in all the world to them and that they hate people like Stephen Harper who are not all drugged up.

Some people are CRIMINALS and fear that Stephen Harper will have them punished for their crimes. They want to continue to assault other people, and rob them, and get away with it. They do not want to reform. They want someone who will cry a river for them, and hold their hands, and hug them, and tell them that evil behaviour is now good and that good behaviour is now evil.

Some people are “CUSTOMERS” and fear that Stephen Harper will continue to oppose the legalization of prostitution. They want someone who will let them do such things “legally” so they can take advantage of the vulnerable in society while saying that it is not against the law and that therefore they have not done anything wrong. They really hope that by now enough people’s minds will have been influenced by Hollywood to think that anything goes.

Some people are BABY KILLERS and still fear that Stephen Harper might try to take away what they think is their right to do such things. So they call Harper a “bully” and a “thug” and a “dictator,” and throw their support behind the various other political party bullys, thugs, and dictators who demand that every Member of Parliament in their own political parties must unquestioningly support baby killing, as well as anything else they ever come up with. The opposition politicians will typically do virtually anything to try to get elected, and it is no doubt a great relief to them that instead of having to kiss babies these days they can now just promise to let the “parents” kill the kids before they are even born.

Some people are PROUD PARTY ANIMALS. Justin Trudeau (the leader of the Liberal party) and Tom Mulcair (the leader of the NDP party) spend a lot of their time at Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender (LGBT) pride parades hoping to drum up support for themselves by criticizing Stephen Harper (the leader of the Conservative workers) for being too busy diligently running the country to go to any orgies. It does not seem to occur to them that maybe Stephen Harper became the Prime Minister precisely because he studied hard and worked hard rather than choosing a life of dissipation like they have done.

Some people are IMMORAL COWARDS. They hate Stephen Harper and they hate themselves too. They hate Stephen Harper the boring economist and his relatively straight-laced ways, but are afraid that they have to vote for him lest one of the other political party animals might get into power and wreck the country economically. They love immorality, and really want to vote for the wicked, but their concern for their paychecks and house prices outweighs even their great love for degeneracy.

Lastly, and so pathetically, some people are BLOG ADDICTS who frequent a certain Real Estate Doomer Blog and just want real estate prices to collapse already so they can finally buy a house and not have to rent forever. It drives them even crazier than they were before that the great economist Stephen Harper has skillfully managed to prevent Canadian real estate prices from crashing. This absolutely infuriates them and they spew their venom against him for not wrecking everything like they selfishly and insanely wish he would. They even hypocritically pretend that they are concerned about him getting the country into too much debt, though they are really just angry that he is not letting house prices fall.

In conclusion, the people who hate Harper the most with such satanic hatred are not very good characters themselves. Instead of always demanding a change from Harper every time there is an election, they need to look in the mirror and CHANGE THEMSELVES.

There needs to be real choice in the area of politics. What would be the point of having a Conservative party if it was just going to do all the same bad things that all the other political parties do?

Stephen Harper would like to be remembered as a great economist who did wonderful things for the economy of Canada, but he should give careful thought to the issue of morality too. It is becoming nearly impossible for him to say anything on this matter without the leaders of the other political parties jumping all over him, but this is where he could make the biggest and best difference for Canada. If he does not give moral matters the proper respect that they deserve, and thinks that financial stuff is all that matters, both the morals and the economy of Canada could go down together, even though most people do not see any connection between the two.

#417 countrymusicfan on 09.20.15 at 8:02 am

Here’s some truth about Harper and the economy.

It is all spin – there is no dilemma, vote the bugger out.

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2015/09/19/stephen-harper-tells-tales-on-the-economy-siddiqui.html

#418 Nick on 09.20.15 at 8:16 am

I suppose Garth should take it as a complement this pathetic blog has become so popular as to warrant being spammed by pro-Harper bots. ;)

Bots to the left of me. Bots to the right. Stuck in the middle with you. — Garth

#419 Bottoms_Up on 09.20.15 at 8:23 am

#415 Who Hates Harper? on 09.20.15 at 6:14 am
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Too bad you didn’t really address some of the reasons why people dislike harper. In fact, you stoop to the same level at which you claim the people against harper are at. I’ll give you some reasons, please investigate further and get back to us:
1) kyoto
2) not attending meeting of 1st ministers
3) treatment of veterans
4) long form census
5) cutting funding for important scientific research
6) OAS 65 to 67
7) international reputation
8) UN security council
9) income trusts
10) proroguing parliament
11) muzzling scientists
12) muzzling MPs
13) P. Callandra
14) Duffy, Wallin, Brazeau
15) Delmaestro

#420 earthoundmisfit on 09.20.15 at 8:26 am

@322 crossbordershopper
You sir, are truly inspirational.

#421 broader mind on 09.20.15 at 9:06 am

We have a winner for whackjob post of the year in #378.Of course Bratusta’s support for the cons should be a message to all other con supporters to jump ship.The likes of #414 and say#384 follow the same themes.In studying the various comments here some themes become clear.Tory supporters need lots of rules and laws and would report their own neighbor’s for lighting up a spliff.They love club membership and by-laws.I assume they where beaten as children and feel a need to punish others for life(easily led into Nazism). Then we have strong NDP support coming from the low percent club.This group has increased under Tory leadership and has now become dangerously large.We must restore balance.For the most part this requires a Liberal vote. As boring as middle ground is, the extremes represented by NDP/Cons will wreak havoc in this country. Besides “Isn’t it time Canada had a decent looking prime minister”

#422 Sheane Wallace on 09.20.15 at 9:29 am

#415 Who Hates Harper?

We understand you well Mr. Real Estate Agent. How sad the party has to come to an end.

#423 Daisy Mae on 09.20.15 at 9:32 am

#224: “Interesting how the Conservative party’s attack ad’s on Trudeau come right out and say that he isn’t ready yet.. as if to imply that someday perhaps he will be.”

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The NDP don’t have much imagination as their most recent attack ad copies Harpers “He’s just not ready” and suggests Harper “has to go…”or something to that effect. What a bunch of buffoons.

#424 SWL1976 on 09.20.15 at 9:43 am

#415 Who Hates Harper?

And some people…

are Conservative TROLLS grasping at straws

#425 broader mind on 09.20.15 at 9:51 am

Note to Garth: After reading the majority of Cons supporters post’s are you not concerned that your hat is in the myopic whackjob camp.You could consider withdrawing your support ,at least till Harpoon is gone.

No support declared for anyone. I’m just asking you to think about the dilemma, and vote for something – not just against. — Garth

#426 Smoking Man on 09.20.15 at 10:04 am

Way I see it.

If your poor, have no imagination, no knowledge on how to make real loot. Without needing to trade time for crumbs. You ride a bike and believe that evil man is changing the climate. You’re going NDP

If you really know how to suck up to govt and get contracts and tenders. Just is putting out Billions for the taking..you own a construction company, or work for one thats tight with Libs. Your a new imigrant from a 3rd world country. Member of LGBT community You’re Voting Liberal.

Now if your loaded, or self employed, CEO , or even a poor laymen with a logical mind that understands that shrinking the available pool of labour, creating more private sector jobs is the way to get wages up. You know that by droping corp taxes, having policies in place that encourages investment and growth, rather than dis investment and running for the hills is the only way to prosper. You understand that in a globized economy where money and industry can set up shop where ever they damn will please.

Good chance you can get past the grey haired phyco, C51, NeoCon NutAndYahoo ass kisser.
Your voting for the cons.

As for me….planning my exodus….

Canada is doomed, regardless of who wins.

Dr Smoking Man

#427 Daisy Mae on 09.20.15 at 10:05 am

#294: “Vote for the candidate that will do you the least harm.”

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And you figure that candidate is the ‘imperfect’ Harper?

#428 The Time Will Come on 09.20.15 at 10:12 am

I try to reserve my decision as to whether or not someone is a good person until I have had a beer with them. And even then it’s a subjective decision

Harper and his band of merry pols are probably the best thin for my and my wife’s financial future. We like and we used the new limit.

As speculation, if Harper is as truly nasty as he appears (sociopath with a borderline personality disorder) then he will get his just rewards. He faces a bleak, lonely, miserable future. Not that Garth keeps score but GT is probably worth 10 to 20 times what Harper is. Take that Harperbots and shove it where the data does not shine.

#429 Daisy Mae on 09.20.15 at 10:33 am

#367: “Paul Martin, financial advisor to the Liberals registered his shipping fleet off shore to avoid paying Canadian taxes.”

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What he did was legal. So what’s the problem?

#430 Daisy Mae on 09.20.15 at 10:47 am

#399: “…much of the attack on science in the Federal Government has nothing to do with Harper at all.”

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Harper controls every aspect of his ‘Harper government’.

#431 NoName on 09.20.15 at 10:50 am

of topic

there you have it, new tax called “loophole” by Toronto Star.

” But sources say retailers will be allowed to exceed the daily cap, which is equal to 279 six-packs, if they pay the government a penalty worth 1 per cent of the cost of the beer. The details of that loophole are part of a revised “beer framework agreement” to be announced within the next two weeks.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2015/09/18/ontario-grocers-can-pay-1-penalty-to-exceed-beer-sales-cap.html

on topic
I HATE POLITICAL DYNASTIES !!!

Anyone but Trudeaux, and if Mulchair is running Lib I would consider voting for him, I hope that Elizabet the prius driver get few seats, and all the best for dictator light.
When oct 19 comes, I am handing back my ballot, not voting for any of these 4 clowns.

#432 Stoopid Idiot on 09.20.15 at 10:51 am

It there any doubt as to where the economy has been and where is going?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORsOQbYPqgo

#433 MF on 09.20.15 at 10:56 am

#416 Who Hates Harper? on 09.20.15 at 6:14 am

Awesome.

The other two are garbage. Some coddled rich kid with no backbone who will pander to every international dictator that wants to destroy the west, and a guy who lives in some kind of socialist fantasy land talking about money management and yet who cannot even find the ability to pay off his own mortgage.

#209 Nosty, etc. on 09.18.15 at 11:38 pm

Canadians are fed up? Don’t be so sure of that: http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/election/nanos-poll-harper-slightly-ahead-for-preferred-pm-1.2571250

And Nosty..I have a request. Can you please refer to your all-knowing websites and find out when the “PTB” will engineer an oil rebound? Please let us know so that we can buy in at precisely the right moment and become billionaires like you.

Thanks.

MF

#434 MF on 09.20.15 at 11:02 am

#424 SWL1976 on 09.20.15 at 9:43 am

While I am still voting for Harper mostly based on economics and foreign policy, gotta say your post about the planet a few days ago was very powerful.

Unfortunately changing the direction of climate change (I believe it exists) is bigger than any of the three main political parties and the election.

MF

#435 Daisy Mae on 09.20.15 at 11:05 am

#416: “…both the morals and the economy of Canada could go down together, even though most people do not see any connection between the two.”

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You can take a breath now…

#436 broader mind on 09.20.15 at 11:08 am

No support declared for anyone. I’m just asking you to think about the dilemma, and vote for something – not just against. — Garth My apologies Garth as I thought you where leaning towards Cons support.As for the dilemma,Canada is suffering from low commodity prices and will only improve as that changes.Canadians are similar to Saudi’s in that our financial health is derived from our resources, only we have far greater depth and reserves(untapped gold,diamonds,oil,lumber water…).If Canada’s net worth was properly evaluated and then divided among our population we would be the wealthiest population on the planet.This will become far more apparent in the future.In the meantime any prime minister elect has little bearing on our finances.Simply vote for the least radical (Trudeau) and wait till the commodity cycle moves up. And of course “Isn’t time Canada had a decent looking prime minister

#437 Llewelyn on 09.20.15 at 11:10 am

#416 Who Hates Harper?

Listen Stephen pseudonyms are allowed on this blog but self promotion is generally discouraged. If I were you I would stick to robo calls and throwing your loyal staff under the nearest bus.

Nice try but we are a pretty savvy group on this blog and generally scroll rght through obvious puffery.

#438 MF on 09.20.15 at 11:22 am

#182 Leo Trollstoy on 09.18.15 at 10:24 pm

How dare you Trollstoy!! How dare you find the ability to scrimp and save another 10k/year by working hard, saving and investing.

It’s not fair that you “rich” who provide jobs get the extra 5k “padding” of tax free investment room needed to fund your retirement while the rest of the dumb 100% financially illiterate indebted population spends it on leased Audi’s, Starbucks latte’s and shoe box mortgages!

What a travesty.

/sarcasm.

The TFSA is a big part of my vote for Harper too.

MF

#439 Joe2.0 on 09.20.15 at 11:29 am

Goldman calls for a rate hike.
In a year.
Kick the can as far as you can.
The only thing that’s going to jump start the economy’s a good ole war.
Works every time.

#440 Bratustra on 09.20.15 at 11:31 am

To #421, 425 “broader mind”:

This is how so called “Liberals” are aggressive with attacking everybody who has own opinion. In current situation, Liberals are at no way “middle ground”. They are dangerous socialists who is destroying this country.
Take Ontario as an example what is coming.
I am not even talking about NDP, who 100 times worse.

The Conservatives are the perfect “middle ground”, even we don’t have anybody right from them. Thanks God.

#441 liquidincalgary on 09.20.15 at 11:46 am

Daisy Mae on 09.19.15 at 11:15 am

#105: “They’ve managed four in a row in both Saskatchewan and Manitoba.”

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Ask Albertans how they feel.

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better yet ask an albertan, who grew up in leftist SK.

SK population is about one million
AB pop about 3.5 million

100 yrs ago:
AB pop about 60,000
SK pop about one million, why? because we grow up and move to AB where opportunity exists (or used to!)

#442 Dieter RAMMSTEIN on 09.20.15 at 11:52 am

The world is a better place for having Stephen Harper as Prime Minister of Canada. Can you imagine if he was president of Russia! At least here the Robotron or whatever he is, can be held to just being an annoying DICKHEAD.
PS : Not to be taken as a compliment Stephen

#443 Lorne on 09.20.15 at 11:56 am

#416 Who Hates Harper? on 09.20.15 at 6:14 am
REGARDING: The October 2015 Federal Election in Canada

Who Hates Harper?

Noticing once again that some people have a rabid hatred of the Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Conservative party, I decided to look into the matter objectively and without bias to find out what was behind all the irrational fury. The results of my research were illuminating. While there were some legitimate reasons for disliking Harper and some of his policies, most of the rage against Harper was based on the impure motives and obvious moral failings of the haters. Listed below are some of the major reasons why some people hate Harper, which I discovered by simply asking people questions and reading the newspaper with an open mind.

First of all, some people are just plain IGNORANT. They do not really know anything about any of the candidates, or political parties, or issues……………
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Perhaps your research was a little skimpy! Please take a look at these 70 reasons and assure us why most of them should be unimportant to the people of Canada:

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/

#444 Joe2.0 on 09.20.15 at 12:01 pm

It’s all BS.
The banks steal.
Politicians steal via lobbyists.
Sheeple you have no say, your minds been made up for you years ago.

#445 Chris on 09.20.15 at 12:08 pm

Are you saying you will be voting for Harper? Please don’t. Even if the logic is vote to punish or against rather than for, it has its merit. I consider the Harper government to be in contempt of democracy. And probably in discrimination against immigrants as well, especially Chinese ones. So why not vote to punish them. Otherwise they will think their old way is the right way to go and will be encouraged to do more of the same. We will have more contempt of parliament, more scandals, more discrimination/less inclusence, more non transparency. Voting to punish has its merit!

#446 Marco on 09.20.15 at 12:16 pm

@Who Hates Harper?

The Conservatives did not save our economy.
The people/consumer did by piling on debt and buying over inflated mortgages at low interest rates.
Such short sightedness.
Did you not think the USA would recover and raise rates? Did you not see the link between Canada and the US? That China’s building boom could not go on forever.
The Conservatives thought China would eat up our resources indefinitely.
Now we are facing our Japan moment.
We need a Party that is not so short sighted, stuck in the past, and can see and are willing to invest in future trends in industry etc…

Cheers.

#447 chris on 09.20.15 at 12:24 pm

Harper is smiling about your post today.

#448 Crystal Ball on 09.20.15 at 12:26 pm

If the holders of bonds think they will be kept whole, they are delusional. The math will run out on being able to roll over the debt. Telling yourself anything else is lying to yourself. The plan for most is to get out ahead of the crowd. Good luck with that.

A crash in the stock market is irrelevant. A bond market crash is where the trouble lies.

#449 erthboundmisfit on 09.20.15 at 12:37 pm

@414 Freedom First
Please tell me you haven’t bred.

#450 Emma Zaun - GreaterFool Unpaid Intern #007 on 09.20.15 at 12:41 pm

Vote to punish?

You better f^&$#in believe it, Garth!

Almost 450 posts for us to wipe the electronic spittle from so far….and still counting.

What happened to our “weekend” you promised, you prick?

Tonight we vote on work to rule provisions until at least the election is over. Sam Hammond from ETFO has volunteered to devise some measures to put the most pressure on you. Like, no more beard grooming or covering for you like BFFs when Dorothy asks where you REALLY are on all those Thursday afternoons. (Hint: Brad Lamb. Sherry Cooper. Steambaths. Oops! Did we say too much, dear overlord?)

Stick to your knitting, dude. ETFs, why CREA is related to Satan, puppy pics to make us all cry.

STAY AWAY FROM POLITICS!!!!!!

You have been warned.

Emma Zaun
Shop Steward
CUPE (Canadian Union of Peelers and Exhibitionists)

#451 Grantmi on 09.20.15 at 12:47 pm

#429 Daisy Mae on 09.20.15 at 10:33 am

#367: “Paul Martin, financial advisor to the Liberals registered his shipping fleet off shore to avoid paying Canadian taxes.”

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What he did was legal. So what’s the problem?

Because Liebrals talk from both sides of their mouths.

Do as we say… not as we do!!

#452 Great Gatsbuy on 09.20.15 at 12:56 pm

#416 Who Hate Harper…excellent…you certainly set the community trolls on fire…they thought they’d gained the upper hand with all the Hate Hate Hate. We’ve seen the CTV, CBC, Globe and Star spew hate since the day of Harpers election…..when it sunk in that no CBC bobblehead would ever ascend to the GG’s office again for loyal services rendered to the Liberal Party.

You’re right…the Hate Campaign is an obvious smear campaign led by a few malcontents attempting to use the bully pulpit of the media to initiate a coup against the will of voting Canadians…who in our system of Parliamentary Democracy…voted for a leader they could rely on…PM Harper…and Canada has done extremely well compared to all other G20 countries through some very difficult global times…such as the one we’re navigating now.

Look at where socialism has taken the PIIGS….and thank your lucky stars we’re not among that crowd.

#453 Rainmaker on 09.20.15 at 1:06 pm

Thanks Garth for that peak behind the veil – truly disturbing to hear what Mr Harper is really like. All that I remember from that time is that you were a rogue politician. Having followed this blog for a year or two, I now know better.

“My crimes had included blogging about being an MP, engaging taxpayers in issues coming up for votes in Parliament, interviewing opposition MPs and posting their vids so voters could gain more perspective, plus trying to create what I thought was a good thing – digital democracy.”

In my view you were doing all the right things but just under the wrong leadership. Clearly Mr Harper is an autocratic bully of a leader and even though my predisposition is conservative – I have and will vote Liberal or NDP if the situation warrants it. And I believe this may be one of those times.

I think it is time for Mr Harper’s time as PM to come to an END. I really believe the Conservatives need new leadership and if they lose – it is pretty certain he will resign as party leader.

My expectation is that we end up with a minority government – and my wish is that the other two parties will keep whichever party wins in check to ensure they do not do anything stupid.

#454 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.20.15 at 1:07 pm

You’re right…the Hate Campaign is an obvious smear campaign led by a few malcontents attempting to use the bully pulpit of the media to initiate a coup against the will of voting Canadians…who in our system of Parliamentary Democracy…voted for a leader they could rely on…PM Harper…and Canada has done extremely well compared to all other G20 countries through some very difficult global times…such as the one we’re navigating now.

Look at where socialism has taken the PIIGS….and thank your lucky stars we’re not among that crowd.
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We have not done well. That is a pack of well covered up Harper dictator lies.

1. We have no democracy. We have a party leader dictatorship.

2. We are bringing in Police State bills like C-51

3. Harper has been burning and shredding govt documents like no tomorrow. This is what a fascist/dictatorship regime does

There are many more examples that nullify your points.

#455 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.20.15 at 1:11 pm

#449 erthboundmisfit on 09.20.15 at 12:37 pm
@414 Freedom First
Please tell me you haven’t bred.
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"Conan….what is best in life?"

"Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamindation of the women."

#456 broader mind on 09.20.15 at 1:17 pm

OMFG #440 bratusta thanks for all the help.You are so busy stuffing my cap full of feathers that I feel like a Chieftain.How is it that a busy Cons supporting novelist like yourself can put together such an eloquent reply.I believe your time would be better spent polishing your rifle.You can continue to instill fear in much the same way Harpoon does.

#457 daystar on 09.20.15 at 1:25 pm

Hi Garth.

Long time. Can’t spend much time at this, (even though this lengthy comment won’t show it) other pressing needs on a Sunday but I have some musings I would like to share here.

Firstly, when times are bad or slow and businesses either can’t or won’t increase spending and the economy stagnates or shrinks, government needs to spend more and get bigger to keep money flowing. If the cost of borrowing is expensive or a tax on the future, governments have to try this through balancing budgets which naturally limits what they can do in the immediate but in the mid and long term, all governments need to focus on growth as the larger the pie, the larger the tax receipts and more room to increase spending and possibly run surplus’s which are great for currency stability and bonds in the long term.

So big government, small government they both have their place to me but they need to suit the times and times change.

Infrastructure for example, is a long term spending commitment. Governments that commit to this kind of spending need to see trouble on the horizon and time it with public spending that makes sense, i.e. wise investments. Do we have that trouble on the horizon?

U.S. federal chair Janet Yellen is on record saying that at some point rates will rise and when they do, if the U.S. economy continues to show strength, we can expect a 1% increase in long term interest rates each year over the next 5 to 6 years. This means that 5 year mortgages today costing 3.25% will cost 8.25% 5 and 6 from now should the U.S. continue its economic strength during this time.

Who here still wants to bet against America? Do you? And should Yellen’s foreboding come true… how will Canada manage? What do consumers actually owe now, 1.2 trillion in mortgages and $27,500 per consumer outside of mortgages, what 2 trillion flat or more… a 1% gain sucks 15 taxed billion out of peoples wallets. I see that dark shadow of long term rate hikes coming and how flat footed we are present and it doesn’t hurt my feelings to hear a government say it will run some red ink on infrastructure as there will be slack in real estate, construction, services, name it and it will worsen over time if the U.S. economy remains strong (and it will til’ at least 2019).

So no Garth, I don’t fear a bigger government considering where Canada is at economically right now and into the next 3 or 4 years. And I do lament at TSFA’s going back to $5,500 but seriously, if $ 5G’s annually at the stock market casino doesn’t do it for us, 10 G’s won’t make it better, just hammer you with capital losses on taxed income you can’t declare as that sword on gains and losses swings both ways.

So no, I won’t be voting for our disliked and sometimes hated PM Harper. What his supporters seem to miss is that people with narcissistic personality disorders don’t have many friends. The ones they do have are built on flattery, not substance. In terms of social behavior and moral decisions (and this alone is enough I assure you), I can’t wait to see Stephen Harper gone from public life altogether.

I do wish that voters don’t vote for what’s just best for them but what’s best for the health and integrity of the system, this nation of Canada and for that matter, this world. I will remind voters that people with mental health issues all have one thing in common. They don’t idealize or practice the egalitarian ideal. Far from it, they value human beings unequally. Pick a mental disorder, any disorder and you will find that one thing in common among all of them. Its at the root of them all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mental_disorders

A self esteem imbalance, an inability to equally value all human beings as the same, regardless of sex, age, income, race, religion, physical and mental ability and on and on.

Readers, ask yourselves… does Stephen Harper value human beings as equal either as an ideal or in practice? A narcissist never does. Love him or hate him, Stephen Harper is a victim of his own social environment’s (we seriously are products of our own environment) pride and prestige, an environment mired in superiority/inferiority complex’s and we’ve had this man with poor mental health lead Canada for going on 10 years.

We’ve heard the expression “top down”, Canada is not better off as a nation because of this. The mindset and vibe of Canada’s moral fiber has worsened. We are more racist, sexist, ageist, materialist, pick and ist or ism, we are more of this precisely because its coming from the top down in our environment. As this forum and so many others clearly demonstrate, some of us have clearly lost our way. Some of us have forgotten what good mental health requires which is precisely the egalitarian ideal, precisely valuing all human beings including ourselves as having the same worth regardless of our circumstances and time after time, daily actually, the Harper government has demonstrated its inability to do this pretty much at any single time.

So I don’t mind a bigger government at this time. I don’t mind a bit more red ink. Harper ran up $170 billion, what’s another $20 or $30 more before we hopefully grow our way out of our slump. I don’t mind TSFA’s back to $5 G’s. What I do mind is a continued erosion of good mental health at the highest levels of government as it seriously does trickle down.

I encourage everyone to vote ABC as a result. I can’t say who will make the best MP’s in everyone’s riding and who knows, perhaps there are even Conservatives that would make good MP’s but the fact that they support a leader with an obvious personality disorder doesn’t resonate with me in the slightest. This government needs to be replaced.

The candidate I’m voting for in my riding @ Cypress Hills Grasslands is experiencing some trickle down narcissism at present:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/vandalism-personal-for-liberal-candidate-in-southwest-saskatchewan-1.3195592

… but its all par for the course. And the candidates from the Greens and NDP are good in my riding but have less experience on the market side of trade and we’re going to need it for economic growth going forward as its the only way out of Canada’s slump now so I’m going with Marvin Wiens and I encourage you all to familiarize yourselves with candidates because its about more than color. On that note, I’m out of time. Best of luck with life to you all.

#458 Ralph Cramdown on 09.20.15 at 1:35 pm

#452 Great Gatsbuy — “Look at where socialism has taken the PIIGS….and thank your lucky stars we’re not among that crowd.”

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=1T7r

There, I charted it for you. The inflation-adjusted growth in GDP per capita since 1970 for the PIIGS, and for Canada (the dotted line). Which crowd is it we’re not among, exactly?

#459 conan on 09.20.15 at 1:47 pm

I think it is save to say that we will have a new PM.
I prefer the Liberals to the NDP.

#460 Parksville Senior on 09.20.15 at 2:00 pm

Leo Trollstoy #392

Thanks for posting the link to Paul Krugman’s website, now it will be easier for people to access sound economic logic.

In the 1830-1840 period the US had a political Party that called themselves the “no-nothing” party.

Ever since Barry Goldwater the US Republicans have been trying for that title. And since they are the hero’s of neocons everywhere, all the con party around the world try to emulate them- and one of the most successful at implementing their ridiculous ideas has been Stephen Harper.

Sorry, truth and knowledge has no ideological bias. However it is extremely hard for ideological bias to have any connection to truth or knowledge.

A good example is the creationists such as Stockwell Day who continues as a conservative commentator. If your world view is compressed to 6000 years you are bound to be ignorant.

Stephen Harper extreme fundamentalist christian leaning affect his foreign policy. Since he believes all economic truth is contained in Deuteronomy, his ability to manage a modern economy is severely limited. Maybe an ancient desert tribe of nomadic raiders, but not a country in the modern world.

If you reject knowledge because it doesn’t conform to your view, you are all the poorer for it.

But just because you post your ignorance, don’t expect it to get the same respect as that of a Noble Prize winning economist who just happens to be the World’s foremost expert on macroeconomic policy.

Go get your Noble Prize and then come back here to argue.

Have a good day.

#461 Russ L on 09.20.15 at 2:05 pm

Keith in Calgary on 09.18.15 at 8:41 pm

On a RE related note…………

Drove down the old island highway 1A today between Nanaimo and Comox.

100 KM of distance according to the highway sign……an all coastal roadway winding thru those beautiful little picture postcard towns and roadside B+B’s that Vancouver Island is made of.

I counted 117 real estate for sale signs……….in 100 KM.
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Hi Keith,

The locals will say you traveled up the old highway to Comox, not down (from Nanaimo).

Almost everything is for sale on Vancouver Island. It’s just that some of it is listed.

Cheers, Russ

#462 Godth on 09.20.15 at 2:25 pm

I’d like to vote for a Canada that was more inspired by people like Imre Makovecz.

#463 Smoking Man on 09.20.15 at 2:27 pm

Wow 450 posts thus far…

I’m calling:

Lots of Trolls here today.

#464 Daisy Mae on 09.20.15 at 2:30 pm

#358: “Gretzky didn’t need to be ‘forced’ into publicly supporting Harper…”

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Who cares what the ‘great one’ thinks? LOL

#465 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.20.15 at 2:33 pm

#434 MF on 09.20.15 at 11:02 am
#424 SWL1976 on 09.20.15 at 9:43 am

While I am still voting for Harper mostly based on economics and foreign policy, gotta say your post about the planet a few days ago was very powerful.

Unfortunately changing the direction of climate change (I believe it exists) is bigger than any of the three main political parties and the election.

MF
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You can't change "4 billion year old" climate change because it is SUN based. Not phony corrupt tax based human based.

#466 Canada believer on 09.20.15 at 2:37 pm

“We have not done well. That is a pack of well covered up Harper dictator lies.

1. We have no democracy. We have a party leader dictatorship.

2. We are bringing in Police State bills like C-51

3. Harper has been burning and shredding govt documents like no tomorrow. This is what a fascist/dictatorship regime does

There are many more examples that nullify your points.”

Sure ……”we live in a fascist dictatorship”…..bwahahahahahahahahaha…how stupid crazy can you get…you have no idea what you’re talking about…take your meds and stay close to a fire extinguisher…troll.

#467 Cloud Strife on 09.20.15 at 2:46 pm

Voting Harper although he won’t win, I won’t vote for more big government. People on here are so worried that Harper is going to be spying on them with Bill c51, you are already being spied on by the NSA, so why does it matter so much?

To me anyone who earns a pay cheque from the private sector should vote conservative to protect their own interest, while those who have government jobs, part of a union, welfare recipients and single moms/femenists should vote NDP or liberal.

Also NDP and liberal would take in a massive amount of refugees from the middle East, basically permanent welfare recipients at the expense of private sector working Canadians. Conservatives are holding back the flood gates while liberals and NDP are trying to push them open.

#468 John Prine on 09.20.15 at 2:48 pm

#416 Who Hates Harper? on 09.20.15 at 6:14 am
REGARDING: The October 2015 Federal Election in Canada

Who Hates Harper

Far too long to read…

#469 IHCTD9 on 09.20.15 at 2:53 pm

#412 Lorne on 09.20.15 at 1:30 am

If you, and anyone else who feels the need to leave Canada when the NDP or Liberals are elected, could send me your name and address, I will ensure that arrangements are made for your departure……in fact, I think this should become imperative if you decide to make this statement.
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Lorne baby, you need to re-read the first sentence I wrote one more time. Heck, read the whole thing again to find where I said anything about leaving as a result of any particular party getting elected…

I think your imagination is working overtime, perhaps a deep breath and a stiff scotch should be combined with your intake of differing opinion?

FWIW, I probably won’t be leaving anytime soon. As the OP noted, moving ain’t easy. It is much easier to make arrangements to mitigate any additional taxes, something that is a hobby of mine :).

Here is some reading for you:

http://canadianimmigrant.ca/community/integration/why-some-immigrants-want-to-leave-canada

These folks have lived outside Canada most of their lives, came here Looking for a better life, and now no less than 30% of them are packing up to leave. You’d better get on the ball collecting those names and addresses.

Oh, and none of them are leaving because of taxes or political affiliation…

#470 Alex Greene on 09.20.15 at 3:03 pm

Here are a few other observations which make me question the conservative credentials on the economy:

1) In 2009, Sweden, a country with a diversified economy that could not benefit from high oil prices at the time, has posted a balanced budget. Curiously, they had higher corporate and personal taxes than Canada’s. Their economy is doing extremely well at the moment.

2) The main reasons why Canada did slightly better than the US during the 2008-09 crisis were:

– strict regulations imposed by Paul Martin on our banks (conservatives opposed this move)

– declining participation in the illegal Iraq invasion and wasting lives and billions of $$$ (conservatives lobbied hard to join the war, Harper was caught reading a speech plagiarized from the Australian PM in the Commons)

IMO, we are EXTREMELY lucky it wasn’t until 2006 that the conservatives formed a govt.

#471 Dieter RAMMSTEIN on 09.20.15 at 3:05 pm

RE: #441 liquidincalgary on [email protected]:46am

Ya and 100 years from now, Albertans will be puking in their cowboy hats from drinking dilbit water and breathing stinky air.
Bigger isn’t always better you know. Just look at yourself in the mirror!

#472 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.20.15 at 3:51 pm

#455 Canada believer on 09.20.15 at 2:37 pm
“We have not done well. That is a pack of well covered up Harper dictator lies.

1. We have no democracy. We have a party leader dictatorship.

2. We are bringing in Police State bills like C-51

3. Harper has been burning and shredding govt documents like no tomorrow. This is what a fascist/dictatorship regime does

There are many more examples that nullify your points.”

Sure ……”we live in a fascist dictatorship”…..bwahahahahahahahahaha…how stupid crazy can you get…you have no idea what you’re talking about…take your meds and stay close to a fire extinguisher…troll.
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It's always people that call names that NEVER provide facts in the other side of a debate. Case in point….

#473 Marco on 09.20.15 at 3:53 pm

@GreatGatsbuy

“Canadians…who in our system of Parliamentary Democracy…voted for a leader they could rely.”

Hold on a minute, the Conservatives won only 39.62% of the popular vote.
They vehemently oppose changes to the electoral system in Canada.
Hmmm, wonder why?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tories-reject-plans-from-opposition-parties-to-change-voting-system/article25051883/

Cheers.

#474 Kingarthur on 09.20.15 at 4:07 pm

Are you kidding Garth; it’s NOT just about the economy st**pid! You of all people should know that it’s time to look at the bigger picture and take back our country from the most anti-democratic, divisive and nasty government we’ve in my lifetime at least. I never thought I would admire Brian Mulroney, but Harper makes him look like a statesman and a mensch! A. B. C., please people. (Mensch definition, a decent, upright, mature, and responsible person)

#475 old gringo on 09.20.15 at 4:12 pm

All this debate and wasted venting on politics and money.
What about QUALITY OF LIFE?
All the rest is small stuff.
You need to owe nothing, live well , and have health.
Oh yeah, and live where you do not have to leave in winter because of the bitter cold, or in summer because of the intense heat.
Invest wisely and internationally and be prepared to move if you have to in order to get the maximum bang for your buck.
This life is a one time deal!

#476 SWL1976 on 09.20.15 at 4:12 pm

#470 Alex Greene

– declining participation in the illegal Iraq invasion and wasting lives and billions of $$$ (conservatives lobbied hard to join the war, Harper was caught reading a speech plagiarized from the Australian PM in the Commons)

IMO, we are EXTREMELY lucky it wasn’t until 2006 that the conservatives formed a govt.

I agree.

I never thought much of Chretien until the day he stood his ground against Bush and Bush lite (Harper) on keeping us out of that unjust war

#477 Rational Optimist on 09.20.15 at 4:18 pm

The news media in this country (I don’t know much about the news media in other countries) are painful. The PM said that both “recent arrivals” (or whatever) and “old stock Canadians” agree on a point, and that’s divisive? I’m not an “old stock Canadian,” and I’m not offended.

How many times have the other two fellows used the phrase “new Canadians”? Is there anything wrong with that? I know it wasn’t a slow news week, so was going on about this “issue” just easier than real journalism?

#478 fancy_pants on 09.20.15 at 4:46 pm

the dictator appears to be the best choice. bigger gov’t and bigger taxes are not the answer, that will simply gut the country of any remaining remnants of productivity

#479 Nora Lenderby on 09.20.15 at 4:53 pm

#449 erthboundmisfit on 09.20.15 at 12:37 pm
@414 Freedom First
Please tell me you haven’t bred.

Obviously not (by his own admission) and he doesn’t want to, and that’s OK. Luckily some of us have choices.

#480 Leo Trollstoy on 09.20.15 at 5:07 pm

If you reject knowledge because it doesn’t conform to your view, you are all the poorer for it.

Hi pot, meet kettle.

Thanks for proving my point.

#481 Nora Lenderby on 09.20.15 at 5:09 pm

#414 Freedom First on 09.20.15 at 6:01 am
#391 Nora Lenderby
#308 Nagraj. You were bested by Nora, and rightfully so as you are clueless when it comes to women.

This isn’t a competition, Mr. FF. Just a bit o’ banter and conversation.

I am sure that Mr. N has a wonderful way with the companions of his own choosing, as we know him to be a humorous, erudite human being.

I understand your POV, Mr. FF – it is not my ideal of living, but you go your way, I’ll go mine.

I do find it strange that you characterize all women as being so interested in, how shall I put it, trapping you by becoming dependent on you or something. By your account it has happened repeatedly. How is this possible, except that you are somehow making the wrong choices?

If you pick Barbie dolls, you’ll get a Barbie. Perhaps you should try a Dora the Explorer.

#482 Nora Lenderby on 09.20.15 at 5:14 pm

#455 OXI in GREECE !! on 09.20.15 at 1:11 pm
“Conan….what is best in life?”
“Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamindation of the women.”

Lamentation, surely. I used to have all of the Conan the Barbarian comic books. Fabulous. I think my favorite was the one with Michael Moorcock’s Elric and Stormbringer…

#483 nubbers on 09.20.15 at 5:17 pm

Vancouver Troy @18

‘I never had kids. Don’t want to pay for someone else’s. Voting Cons.’

And I will make sure mine know how not to contribute to your pension.

#484 Nora Lenderby on 09.20.15 at 5:37 pm

#483 nubbers on 09.20.15 at 5:17 pm
Vancouver Troy @18
‘I never had kids. Don’t want to pay for someone else’s. Voting Cons.’
And I will make sure mine know how not to contribute to your pension.

Disqualifying cranky old geezers would be an interesting test of pension eligibility. I can see a new reality TV channel featuring the Cheerfulness Panels being instituted in every municipality.

“Be agreeable, or go hungry.”

#485 Freedom First on 09.20.15 at 5:45 pm

#449 erthboundmisfit

Thanks! No worries. I got snipped as a young man. I look after myself. Best option. Divorce courts castrate men. Fact.

#486 IHCTD9 on 09.20.15 at 5:45 pm

#470 Alex Greene on 09.20.15 at 3:03 pm
Here are a few other observations which make me question the conservative credentials on the economy:

1) In 2009, Sweden, a country with a diversified economy that could not benefit from high oil prices at the time, has posted a balanced budget. Curiously, they had higher corporate and personal taxes than Canada’s. Their economy is doing extremely well at the moment.

2) The main reasons why Canada did slightly better than the US during the 2008-09 crisis were:

– strict regulations imposed by Paul Martin on our banks (conservatives opposed this move)

– declining participation in the illegal Iraq invasion and wasting lives and billions of $$$ (conservatives lobbied hard to join the war, Harper was caught reading a speech plagiarized from the Australian PM in the Commons)

IMO, we are EXTREMELY lucky it wasn’t until 2006 that the conservatives formed a govt.
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Point 1: In reality, Sweden has done as well as they have due to great application of Capitalism. Here in Canada, good measures by the federal government are easily nullified by poor provincial policy. Ontario is an outstanding example of just how much damage can be done (and is continuing to be done) by retarded policies, irregardless of positive effort by the federal and municipal governments.

http://elgarblog.com/2014/09/09/embracing-capitalism-the-real-success-of-swedens-universal-welfare-state/

Point 2: No, strong commodities kept us doing better than most. Yes good banking rules were in place, these had been in place for over a decade. They were good, Harper left them alone.

http://www.economist.com/node/16059938

IMO, we were damn lucky we had Harper in place to realize our natural resources were were our meal ticket when most nations on earth were doing the RMS Titanic shuffle…

You’ll note that as commodities have taken a hit, so has our GDP and greater economy. Love it or not, NR makes or breaks it for us these days. We can not rely on the manufacturing strength of Ontario to support GDP as the Loonie sinks like we used to do. The liberals have all but decimated the competitiveness of Ontario, and the manufacturing sector is a shell of it’s former self.

I expect an NDP government, and I can’t wait to watch the show. TM supporters want to tax what’s left of our manufacturing base into oblivion, and then shut down the oil sands. I hope they get the Leap Manifesto going asap so I can watch all the clean air and respect for each other drive our economy into the stratosphere!

#487 PEI reader on 09.20.15 at 5:45 pm

Interesting to note that Rex Murphy is broadcasting his final radio call-in show right now on CBC, after his sudden resignation announcement last week.

He seems his usual right wing self again today, bashing Hillary Clinton and praising Donald Trump.

Wonder if he is quitting so suddenly perhaps has plans to run for Harper before the candidacy deadline next week…..or maybe look for a nice government post with the Cons…?

#488 broader mind on 09.20.15 at 5:48 pm

Hey: The cons leader harpoon just called wanting #378,440 Bratustra to become his new speech writer.Together they will hatch a new plan for World Domination.Canada is so yesterday.

#489 Herf on 09.20.15 at 5:54 pm

#403 Bottoms_Up

‘Shame on you for throwing around “banked sick days” like it was some type of drain on society.’

According to some reports including the government’s own statistics, it appears the current public service sick leave system (at all levels of government) has become open to abuse:

http://www.macleans.ca/politics/the-sick-day-scam/

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/75-006-x/2013001/article/11862-eng.htm#a5

http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/psm-fpfm/modernizing-modernisation/stats/slu-ucm-eng.asp

Some reports have noted that federal sick leave makes for a $1.4 Billion tax liability, presumably at the public’s expense:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-public-servants-have-15-million-days-in-banked-sick-leave

http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/Barbara+Yaffe+Government+employees+paid+well+above/11119438/story.html

As I see things, Harpo is trying to bring the public service benefits structure more in line with that of the private sector. I believe most individual non-unionized private sector workers would think that’s a good thing.

#490 Roasted wildnutz on 09.20.15 at 6:10 pm

#485 Freedom First on 09.20.15 at 5:45 pm
#449 erthboundmisfit

Thanks! No worries. I got snipped as a young man. I look after myself. Best option. Divorce courts castrate men. Fact.
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Self castration. You da man.

#491 Mr. Monday Night on 09.20.15 at 6:11 pm

Split the right and change the name and I’ll come back, voting for the moderates. This wasn’t the Conservative Party I wanted and voted for in 2011, not even close. I am never voting for a far-right or far-left party again.

Guess that only leaves one choice…this go-round at least.

#492 the weatherman on 09.20.15 at 6:20 pm

@MF,

As long as they get you asking the wrong questions they dont have to worry about the answers.
The wrong question is “is climate change happening”?
That gets everyone arguing
The right question is “is someone profiting from it”?
Answer , yes notice eco fees carbon tax etc.
You are being made to pay your money for an UNproven agenda
Its the job of the person makin a claim to prove it.

#493 David B. on 09.20.15 at 6:24 pm

Garth:
Where to start, First I remember well your thrashing from King Steve, and two others in particular who are now dead and gone. I supported your come back quest and was disappointed you did not win. King Steve is a resentful evil man who has imposed Democratic Dictatorship on Canada …. and to say you think we have no other choice is completely false. So get over it! Scrape this blog take your wife out in your hummer eat drink and be merry holding your family close life is short. Good luck.

#494 James from St. John on 09.20.15 at 6:26 pm

#490 Roasted wildnutz

LOL!!

#495 arch douche on 09.20.15 at 6:27 pm

That Garth has been trashed so personally by Harper, but will not vote for the other parties in the election is very instructive. The public forms its opinion based on tv ads and is always removed from reality to some degree. This is a person who has seen the other parties and their leaders up close and in person day to day. One must imagine that if there was even a hint in his mind that the Liberals or NDP would be close to as good, he would be supportive or indifferent. But he’s not. Think about it. What he has seen and heard that you have not.

#496 jess on 09.20.15 at 6:29 pm

“camps” for wrinklies
promoting mr harper or wayne G’s hockey camps? only $14,999.00/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/17/us-retirement-spending-fantasycamp-idUSKCN0RH26320150917
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debt strike?
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/32811-hero-or-coward-could-skipping-my-student-loan-payments-start-a-revolution

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#497 Leaving Cowtown on 09.20.15 at 6:47 pm

It still comes to a question of character for me.

Harper doesn’t have it.

It’s between the others, not totally sure which one yet.

#498 boonerator on 09.20.15 at 6:53 pm

I worry a bit about either the Libs or the NDP will inflict economic harm on the nation and on me.
But the words of Adam Smith are comforting.

“One day Sinclair brought Smith the news of the surrender of Burgoyne at Saratoga in October 1777, and exclaimed in the deepest concern that the nation was ruined. “There is a great deal of ruin in a nation,” was Smith’s calm reply.”
http://www.econlib.org/library/YPDBooks/Rae/raeLS22.html

Canada can survive some economic storms but the democratic deficit of the Cons is more serious.
Hence strategic voting for me.

#499 jess on 09.20.15 at 7:10 pm

http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/subsidy-tracker

SUBSIDY TRACKER 3.0 is the first national search engine for economic development subsidies and other forms of government financial assistance to business.

http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/sites/default/files/docs/pdf/UncleSamsFavoriteCorporations.pdf

A significant share of companies that sell goods
and services to the U.S. government also get subsidized by it.

#500 Leaving Cowtown on 09.20.15 at 7:15 pm

#498 Boonerator

It’s not just the democratic deficit. The financial one matters too.

I have absolutely no confidence in the fiscal prudence of the Harper toadies. Garth is quite right, and we may well be heading for a major, prolonged real estate and economic slump as a result of years of bad policies.

#501 liquidincalgary on 09.20.15 at 11:20 pm

Dieter RAMMSTEIN on 09.20.15 at 3:05 pm

RE: #441 liquidincalgary on [email protected]:46am

Ya and 100 years from now, Albertans will be puking in their cowboy hats from drinking dilbit water

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what the hell is ‘dilbit water’, troll??

#502 april on 09.21.15 at 2:48 am

Read “Housing Bubbles Cause Inaccurate Stats” by Ross Kay of Vancouver.

#503 Dieter RAMMSTEIN on 09.21.15 at 12:03 pm

#450 Emma Zaun-Greater Fool Unpaid Intern #007
[email protected]

You definitely win the award for most creative, out there comment. too funny.

I can see Brad Lamb being a steambath kind guy, but Sherry Cooper??? Come on! Not at all the sweaty type of gal. Totally have to be THE FOUR SEASONS.

#504 csarichardo on 09.21.15 at 12:33 pm

Yes I have the same dilemma. Punish the conservatives and as a result get punished by the NDP/liberals !! Human nature drives me toward giving the punishment to Harper but if you think it through that move will get my ass whipped by the LIB/NDP !? My biggest issues with Harper/conservatives is their willingness to help bomb people in foreign lands but I guess my vote will be bought by a TFSA ?

#505 Blobby on 09.21.15 at 3:23 pm

Garth – Curious.. Did you ever see Stevy without his wig?

#506 YOWzaa on 09.22.15 at 9:47 am

Garth, you can’t have it both ways. You’re saying cutting the GST was a huge mistake (which I fully agree), but then you’re saying raising taxes would be a disaster. Which is it? You can possibly be contemplating voting for Harperman? Not only does he despise you, he despises public servants, environmentalists, scientists, and REALITY.

You may not have ever known this while working for the man, but in Steve’s high school yearbook he stated that his Biggest Pet Peeve is REALITY. Scary that someone who despises reality, is still our PM for another month.