The end

Take it from me. There is no limit when it come to the backroom boys in the federal Conservative party. And they just altered the course of Canadian history.

The Jack Layton massage story, unleashed Friday night through Sun TV, and Saturday in Sun newspapers, is the end of Mr. Harper. It’s hard to imagine a story could be so irrelevant to voters or so clumsily handed. Covered with Tory fingerprints, it came across instantly as a pathetic, malicious, juvenile attempt to assassinate Jacko’s character – timed precisely to limit the NDP leader’s ability to do damage control.

The MSM smelled the rat, but carried on with the reportage. Not so in the real world. Online comments have been devastating to the Cons, and the social media consequences of this dumbass move could be monumental. Meanwhile Stephen Harper, who based his entire campaign on a hypothetical scenario – that a coalition would rule Canada if he were not given more power – coyly refuses to answer questions about what happens on Tuesday. I don’t, he now says, deal in hypotheticals.

Days to go: 1. Credibility: 0.

We are about to enter a new era. You might want to bone up again on that NDP platform, and their plans for taxes and spending. The guy in the white towel is full of surprises.



#1 Mariea on 04.30.11 at 10:56 pm

I’m just stunned beyond words. I live in Calgary. What is going to happen to us?

#2 The Phantom on 04.30.11 at 10:56 pm

Evening Garth:

It would take an individual sleeping through life not to wonder about the timing and the source of such comments. I wasn’t aware of the progenitor of the material. You assert that it comes from the conservatives

I won’t disagree. What I will say is this: the Harper conservatives have done many things (like them or not) that have harmonized aspects of Canada and the US. I was aware that the media in Canada was kinder to folks running for elected office whereas within the USA, the media would grasp at anything and fling it out for public consumption.

This event and your addition this evening make me wonder if that distinction has been blurred as well.

Have a pleasant weekend

the Phantom

#3 Carn-ival on 04.30.11 at 10:59 pm

Nothing wrong with a late hockey stick measurement….strategy is strategy. Canadian politics is actually getting interesting.

#4 nonplused on 04.30.11 at 11:04 pm

Well I for one was happy you were mostly staying mostly away from politics, because it’s an even more sleezy subject than porn, but I guess with only 1 day to go it had to come out again.

If your prognostication comes to fruition, we will have ourselves a divided country. Not good. Oh well at least we will all get free solar panels! (Too bad I already bought mine from the old Xurbia site, and too bad they don’t do a damn thing in the winter. 6 hours of cloudy skies and 18 hours of dark don’t make much power.)

#5 Mike Rotch on 04.30.11 at 11:10 pm

To use another hockey metaphor, this is like a late powerplay where the point shooter breaks his stick, and the puck ends up in the wrong net.

I fear this backfires on the Cons big time.

#6 Einsam Solo on 04.30.11 at 11:12 pm

SHarper’s government fell on the finding of contempt of parliament. That’s all the man is worthy of, contempt.

#7 Carp on 04.30.11 at 11:13 pm

I’ve not had a party since the PC takeover. I’ve scratched every election since.

I will this week as well – but this NDP surge is very interesting. Maybe the reformists will take a back seat soon and the Federal PC’s will get balls soon to get back control

#8 Werner Patels on 04.30.11 at 11:14 pm

Yes, it will be Harper’s downfall (as I wrote yesterday).

This “story” is such a low blow, but then again, having suffered abuse at the hands of the Blogging Tories myself (back in 2005), I can say that this is not just Harper’s approach to things, but seems to be a widespread character flaw among most so-called “Conservatives” today.

#9 NotAGreaterFool on 04.30.11 at 11:21 pm

Nobody is talking about this:
The International Criminal Court just announced it may investigate Canada (Harper) for war crimes for handing Afghan prisoners NDI for torture.

This is a disgrace for Canada, formerly admired around the globe for its legal rectitude and adherence to international law.

#10 LondonHomes on 04.30.11 at 11:23 pm

For an election nobody wanted it sure had been interesting. I’m sure Monday night may end up being a very wild ride.

#11 Professor on 04.30.11 at 11:33 pm

Man, I thought I didn’t like Layton.

#12 nonplused on 04.30.11 at 11:33 pm

Oh, and anyway, whether Jack was a john and getting Jacked is in my opinion a side issue. Many of the men in your life, whoever you are, have, they just didn’t get caught. Not me, but only because I am too cheap.

Personally, I think prostitution and marijuana should be legalized and handled much as alcohol is. They are too big of business to be left in the hands of organized crime. Legalization along with regulation could maybe clean things up a bit. Right now you can’t have a liquor store within so many feet of a school, but dealers are vending drugs in the school parking lot. Legalize it, so that the gangs aren’t in charge any more, and then regulate it.

With prostitution, I think the key is to eliminate the pimps and create a safe “working” environment for the practitioners (they are not all women). We can get into a long and drawn out argument over the morality of the situation, and I would side with the voices who say “no woman should be a prostitute”. But all of human history shows that this is a problem that isn’t going to go away. Certain women can cash in on hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in this profession, but right now the pimps are stealing most of it and working conditions are unsafe. As for morality, well there is that. But I’ve come across enough women who just like to troll in the bars for “fun guys” (in other words they buy them drinks to know that there are many women who don’t have a moral problem setting aside Christian morals. And while I might personally judge them negatively for that behaviour, it is not my business to tell them what they can and cannot do. The pimps on the other hand, are exploiting and extorting, both of which anyone can see the problem with.

In the end of the day, if 2 consenting adults willingly agree to a transaction, the rest of us should have nothing to say about it unless one of those adults has an agreement with you that the new agreement violates. (My wife is not going to agree to let me spend money on another woman, even for a message. She’d rather do it. And frankly I feel the same way about spas. I can rub her back just fine, let’s save the money. And let’s face it, the only difference between a spa and a message parlour is what you are rubbing with what. And the mud bath. So women who are aghast at the concept of prostitution better not let me find them coming out of a spa, even if it is the Clearwater at the Banff Springs Hotel.)

#13 S.B. on 04.30.11 at 11:35 pm

Love you long long time! While there is some dirt-digging at play here, really a married fellow should know that if he’s alone, naked, in a private room with an attractive young women, paying cash only…that maybe just maybe something else is going on? If not for him than for other patrons of the joint? A possible error in judgement on his part, if nothing else.

#14 cj on 04.30.11 at 11:36 pm

everyone needs to get out and vote and while you’re at it, bring someone with you

#15 mel on 04.30.11 at 11:37 pm

I remember when Harper was going to change how this great country of ours should behave. You know, all those corrupt Liberals.

Well, after five years of bringing US style politics, smear a man’s name and you will become our Prime Minister, is too much for me.

I don’t care if our Canadian boy had some extra massage. Let’s hope he felt much better after receiving it.

What I care about however, is that our Politicians stop looking after themselves, and start doing it what they were elected to do, to look after the best interest of our COUNTRY!

#16 The American on 04.30.11 at 11:41 pm

Seriously, who gives a shit? This is pretty low-brow. I myself am naked every time I get a massage whether its a man or a woman doing the kneading. Why would this even be considered a material fact to this case? Isn’t everyone naked when getting a massage? And, they did say the girl was 22 years old, so that would have made her legal anyway if he were getting the old knob polished. As for the “moist tissue” she had in her hand, maybe she was just nervous to massage a high-powered dude and her palms were all sweaty. And, maybe not. But, really, who cares?

As an American, I can happily speak to dirty, low-brow politics. I always look forward to election time because NOTHING beats watching the mud slinging. Its much like watching a train wreck or a great Jerry Springer show.

This only demonstrates that Harper is sweating bullets and therefore this was released just in time to show the voters the potential errors of their ways. Without question, Harper ordered this. What would NEVER have happened in the U.S., however, is interrupting regularly scheduled programming to release such a stupid story with little to no relevance to a man’s ability to perform…. literally. Hell, even when it was discovered that the President of the United States, Bill Clinton, was getting a gob job in the Oval Office, they at least waited for NBC’s “Must See TV” to complete before announcing it. What was the big deal, anyway? It isn’t like any of it got on the blue carpet. It ended up on Monica’s blue dress instead (which the sicko kept in her closet without getting it dry cleaned). That was the REAL story if you ask me.

Damn, I do miss Slick Willy for so many reasons. Honestly, I was just glad to know he was at least getting some. God knows he wasn’t getting any from Hillary. However, I was and have always been a wee bit disappointed in his choice of women. No doubt, he does go for a certain look. Anyway….

Dammmmmmmn. It is now evidently clear the connectedness and power that Harper has over the Canadian media. Kinda gross actually. I’d venture to say it may very well be over for that desperate son of a Bush.

#17 Nostradamus Le Mad Vlad on 04.30.11 at 11:45 pm

“. . . is the end of Mr. Harper.” — What goes around comes around. So, an Ode To Stevie — 3:34 clip Women of Salt Spring Island, BC dump Stevie!

“Days to go: 1. Credibility: 0.” — Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. This will anger (and galvanize) a lot more people, either to vote NDP, Libs., Green or anything else just to get rid of these scumbags.

Last election, they won 19 extra seats, primarily by butt kissing. This time, they have smeared shit all over their face, so they deserve what they get.
14:05 clip MiketheEngineer — Fits right in with the NMF, SAF, FEMA camps and the confiscation of land from UTAH by the WH. “Economic Collapse by Summer 2011 as a Result of Japan Crisis.”

Globalists Plan to starve Libyan citizens, then take over their country.

Obama Austerity in America, courtesy Soros and TPTB.

In light of central banks snapping up gold (previous post and link) — 6:31 clip US citizens cashing in IRA’s to buy silver; China Buying US$1 T. of gold? Plus Silver Manipulation. Gold and Silver “BOTH METALS ARE CONTROLLED BY COMPUTER TRADING PROGRAMS!” Links in.

Connections Rothschilds fund Soros who, in turn, bankrolls Obama and Donald Trump.

HAARP and stuff. Chart incl. (not financial).

The Number Eleven and Number Eleven significance.

#18 Tim on 04.30.11 at 11:50 pm

A CBC reporter asked Harper a question today and he wouldn’t answer it. Furthermore, his henchmen started booing the reporter. Are we living in a democracy?

Simple minds have to highlight trivial stuff about Layton’s personal affairs. Who cares? What about policy
The economy will do just fine with the NDP in power. Commodity prices and China have more influence than any governing party.

Don’t vote for Harper, because he has no respect for democracy

Globe political columnist Lawrence Martin entitled his final chapter “A Question of Character” in his devastating 2010 book called Harperland: The Politics of Control.

The final two pages feature what Martin describes as the “march of audacities”—a lengthy list of Harper’s more outrageous actions.

They include, among other things:

• Padlocking Parliament

• Appointing former Liberal David Emerson as a Conservative cabinet minister immediately after the 2006 election

• Cancelling the long-form census

• Eliminating the access-to-information database

• Launching personal attack ads between elections

• Scripting supporters’ calls to radio talk jocks

• Blocking information on cabinet ministers’ use of jets

• Attempting to strip political parties of public funding

• Putting the Conservative logo on government cheques for stimulus funding

• Firing the nuclear-safety commission head Linda Kean

• Prohibiting cabinet staff from speaking before parliamentary committees

• Smearing diplomat Richard Colvin for blowing the whistle on Afghan detainees

“For Stephen Harper the end justified the means, almost any means,” Martin wrote in his book. “It was what troubled so many Canadians about him.”

#19 jas on 04.30.11 at 11:52 pm

The sooner the cons are kicked out the better for the greater good of society.

#20 Tim on 04.30.11 at 11:52 pm

Harper has spent millions trying to discredit Iggy. He has succeeded in removing the middle and polarizing the debate between extreme right and moderate left. He makes Machiavelli look like a cub scout.

#21 Silentblogger on 04.30.11 at 11:55 pm

Alright…it appears the idiocy of the Harper Con is complete.

I’m a Capital C Conservative but this you as*wipes is BEYOND STUPID. Harper, YOU SIR have crossed the line with this tripe…BYE BYE “Steve” (your words, not mine). THANK GOD you’ve finally made the mistake we’ve all been waiting for.

#22 Tim on 04.30.11 at 11:55 pm

Harper only attained power by cozying up to the NDP and the Bloc, he’s now saying that the same thing he did earlier would have terrible consequences. The psychopath will stop at nothing. Let’s hope Canadians aren’t stupid enough to vote him in again

#23 Joseph [original] on 04.30.11 at 11:56 pm

To state that this has all the markings of “Tory fingerprints” without a single source of reference to back up this claim is not acceptable. Let the police do their job and see who it was. You may be surprised.

#24 Jack L on 05.01.11 at 12:03 am

Sweet reporter….
Massages on me tuesday! Paid with Garth’s newly raised taxes!!

#25 islander on 05.01.11 at 12:06 am

If you don’t vote Conservative, vampires will drink the blood of your children and ghouls will feast upon your granny. Seriously.

#26 bridgepigeon on 05.01.11 at 12:09 am

eJackuLayton for PM

#27 TS on 05.01.11 at 12:16 am

Yup we have entered the gutter and ended up with the U.S. style of politics. We are following in many of their shoes.
Jack was pretty naive back in 96 huh…
Quite a victim

#28 Not 1st on 05.01.11 at 12:17 am

I agree its low blow, but as far as I am concerned, everything needs to be done to stop the socialists in their tracks. You will all thank Harper later for dodging a bullet for canada.

#29 Young Buck on 05.01.11 at 12:21 am

I was debating to vote NDP just before watching above video! This video made me confident to vote for Jack to show Sharper government that what happened 16 years ago NOT matter.

The past is history, the future’s mystery, the present is a gift, that’s why it is called the present

#30 Jane on 05.01.11 at 12:28 am

So who on earth do we vote for? What a disappointing, frustrating mess.

#31 tran,Calgary on 05.01.11 at 12:35 am

Jack will get a majority this Monday.

#32 Slow Learner on 05.01.11 at 12:35 am

The Torries are Swift-boating Jack. Desperate times for Harper and company.

The question is, how well did they cover their tracks, and what will be the consequences after the damage is done.

Looks like we are entering a new phase of Canadian politics.

#33 casanova on 05.01.11 at 12:36 am

“… the vice squad…”
I cant believe we have such things in Canada, and paid for with taxpayer money .
This sounds like the vice units in Iran and Saudi Arabia.
Vice squad… give me a break! This kind of journalism is the most vicious hard core pornography I have ever seen. Idiots!

#34 Conservative Breaking Bad on 05.01.11 at 12:37 am

The NDP stands for the ‘No Darn Profits” party. That looks likely as a new official Bay Street mantra for the next half decade or so.

With this latest public service missive about ‘Jumpin- Jack get Elected in a Flash’ .. a final and necessary plank will need be to openly and publicly supported for the mother of all bawdy houses.

The most noted of which is that fine and proven Canadian whore house called Parliment Hill, where the Peace Tower reminds us where the real men hang their hats amongst other garments.

The bawdy house-of-common reprobates domiciles the largest number of skilled froteuers who are exceedingly capable of exacting cash from your tax depleted jeans.

The oldest profession after all is politics, and far is more lethal and consistently venereal than its more pedestrian competition. As we are once again reminded by the dirty-deeds boys (crudely borrowed by our Stevy from Karl Rove).

I voted conservative for 3 decades. But enough is enough. Just to spit in the eye of the current factotems. I will vote for ‘Crippled Smiling Jack” just to piss everybody off. Maybe remind ’em they can’t control the flow in the sewer pipe forever.

When you play dice with Canadian sensibilities, you will on occasion get your figs chewed off.

#35 Just a Tech on 05.01.11 at 12:37 am

haha and the Sun said in an article a couple days ago that they weren’t a tool of the conservative party. I call BS.

#36 Nebulation D. Porntone (NDP) on 05.01.11 at 12:44 am

Do not be surprised that Nebulation D. Porntone (NDP for short) would try to pass off nudity with a young woman in a bawdy house as innocent behavior.

Do not be surprised that NDP would refuse to accept any personal responsibility, would try to blame society, and would try to pretend that the only great sin was for someone to tell on him.

#37 notreadytobeamericanyet on 05.01.11 at 12:50 am

Anyone who watches SunTV or reads SUN newspapers chooses to live in a fog of ignorance and propaganda.

I have no pity left for these people. The best course of action, I’ve found, is to completely ignore them.

Fundamentally I have ‘conservative’ beliefs. The current breed of pandering, mouth breathing, fear mongering, democracy slaying douches are impossible to support.

More the pity.

#38 John should have been arrested on 05.01.11 at 12:52 am

I find it really hard to fathom that the head of the NDP was found nude in a licensed body rub parlor. How exactly is this in any way shape or form suppose to hurt the Conservatives? I salute the Toronto Police for leaking this matter to the public.

#39 Industrial Guy on 05.01.11 at 1:03 am

Jack Layton ran a great campaign. He was very smart to stand back and let the other guys self destruct. This strategy obviously worked.
I also nominate Rick Mercer for an Order of Canada. His vote rant ignited a fire under the young people of this country ….. a potential three million voters. Wow!

#40 Thetruth on 05.01.11 at 1:03 am

It will become really interesting if the Cons win a majority. Maybe the Great Canadian MSM Caper in the making?

Lets wait and see.

#41 squidly77 on 05.01.11 at 1:07 am

Canada’s entering Terra Incognito
What a freakin mess. The Sun should be ashamed. Are we third world or what.

And to whoever the freak is posting all over the place using under my moniker, man up and frig off eh!

#42 mad vancouver on 05.01.11 at 1:09 am

Great, we might finally have a chance to talk about massage parlours flourishing in new condos, expanding Asian mafia in Vancouver, and corrupt police!

#43 Thelone Gunman on 05.01.11 at 1:17 am

The news report forgot to mention that his entire body was covered with honey, chocolate chips, and feathers………….

#44 race against time on 05.01.11 at 1:18 am

So stupid, so infantile, so un-canadian.
And so predictable. It is kind of psychopathic, and very typical of a maladjusted psychopathic control freak, bluffing their way through the social contract. Under stress, when success is dependant on a nuanced understanding of the human condition, based on empathy and insight, these individuals crack, and make flailing decisions that reveal their complete lack of emotional intelligence.

Hopefully this finally puts the lizards out in the cold.

#45 Sharpen The Saw on 05.01.11 at 1:19 am

I live in Harper’s riding and I sure as heck won’t be voting for him. I’m lucky in the sense that my vote is more of a personal slight against the man himself as opposed to the party in general. He needs to go find something else to do.

#46 Tony on 05.01.11 at 1:33 am

But the people who vote NDP are too lazy to vote in the first place. Has it been that long since the NDP cut their welfare cheques? I guess it has if the NDP gets any votes.

#47 Increasing that 1% on 05.01.11 at 2:03 am

I am glad to see you addressing this, as when I walked by the newsboxes tonight, and stepped back to read the headline, I was shockingly disgusted by the pathetic-ness of it all.
I raised this with my young-er bud–unable to let it go- that the newspaper itself is so bought–it was bad enough on the ‘News’ the night before–I had to turn it off– at how desperate they [esp. SunNN] sounded at trying to make it seem so serious- like a CNN breaking story– the thing is my young bud allready knows this- the new voters are not brought up so much with the MSM in certain ways- thank God-ness.

Vote- like- an- Egyptian

#48 piker on 05.01.11 at 2:38 am

Have fun Fantino…hope you rot in hell.

#49 beaker on 05.01.11 at 2:39 am

What timing. Total smear. Popularity can sometimes stink. I definitely have to say he’s very charismatic.

During a previous election, I clearly recall Lieton said on numerous occasions that business taxes should be increased. He was later interviewed live on CBC and was asked about his comments of increasing business taxes, he did a complete 180. Lieton acted as if he never spoke those words. The host questioned several times to Lieton about the business tax increase, clearly showing signs of frustration. Lieton acting like a politician completely avoided answering the question. This raised a huge red flag for me.

#50 TheFirstRick on 05.01.11 at 2:42 am

This election campaign has made me do something I swore was impossible – vote for Layton. Well, the NDP incumbent in my riding anyway.

#51 TheFirstRick on 05.01.11 at 2:46 am

#7 Carp on 04.30.11 at 11:13 pm

If you don’t vote, please keep your comments to yourself. Thanks.

#52 Aussie Roy on 05.01.11 at 3:14 am

Aussie Update

Of course there are no house flippers in Australia only investors?.

Soft landing for homes in our nations capital, Yeah sure.

HUNDREDS of underqualified real estate agents are exploiting a legal loophole that enables them to own and operate Victorian estate agencies after just five days training in New South Wales.

The Real Estate Institute of Victoria has attacked the practice as a ”blatant scam”, potentially exposing home buyers and sellers to unprofessional and incompetent agents.

Families struggle with electricity costs.

More pressure on households income to come from next federal budget.

How long can we keep giving the middle class welfare?.

#53 confused and a little crazed on 05.01.11 at 3:34 am

Though I can’t stand Harper’s blatant abuse of public funds…the fake lake, the G20 Summit security…etc.

I do not think NDP platform is feasible or practical…I mean Layton is worried about access to internet…i mean really. His immigration are to lapse. Immigration is good but make sure he/ she has 20 years to contribute in canadian society. if he wants to bring grandpa from home country he is solely responsible for their funding…may be some welfare benefits but no old age/ CPP benefits because they did not contribute

With 20 years contribute hopefully they will integrate into Canadian society no be a burden to it

#54 Ratpick on 05.01.11 at 5:09 am

So did the rumour of the Harpers’ marital split turn out to be just a rumour? Or has all this huggy-huggy, lovey-lovey on the campaign trail been all for show?

If the rumour was true, kudos to the Libs and NDP for holding back.

(if it WAS just a rumour, shame on me for bringing it up.)

#55 GTA Girl on 05.01.11 at 5:19 am

Having been involved in a high profile Conservative campaign, I can verify that it does have Tory fingerprints. Now that I woke up and left the Cons in a very public way, I’m fully aware of what a vindictive corrupt PMO that we have. Sure, it’s always been cut throat, but now there is a blood viscousness that is clearly visible to Canadians. I’m still shocked Harpers numbers are as high. People are indeed Sheeple. Harper and his senior staff/Ministers are dangerous. I won’t return to the party until they are gone. The Jack story smells of inside police knowledge, being floated to top by someone with a lot of clout….. Someone involved with Con politics.

#56 Prairie Boy on 05.01.11 at 5:36 am

The SUN news clip is almost laughable. They really struggle to make it a legitamate news story. It is eerily similar to a Sean Hannity or Bill O’Reilly type of presentation where they attempt to provide analysis of what appears to be a non event.

It is all very clumsily presented and the presenters (I would hardly call them journalists) seem to lack any credibility.

This may well indeed tip the balance in favour of the NDP. Maybe this is just what we need to have happen. It could be a huge blow to our economy. And maybe it will finally cause the “correction” that is long overdue.

#57 SquareNinja on 05.01.11 at 5:58 am

Is it a coincidence that it was Sun Media that broke the news? Sun Media… what a high-class and trustworthy source of news!

#58 an awful good girl on 05.01.11 at 6:02 am

hurray, santa baby is coming to town… Heard effect rules!
The bad news, not MY family is going to be given a break (somebody has to pay for this ideal platform and, considering comments in the media, not lots of people have to). So sad…
The End.

#59 MB on 05.01.11 at 6:17 am

Dear Garth,

Harper never had a chance to begin with. He doesn’t care about people and he thinks Canadians are stupid… ’nuff said.

The interesting question is whether or not the 3rd place Liberals will form a governing alliance with the 2nd place NDP?

Tough call.

Prime Minister Jack Layton needs to have a seasoned Liberal Finance Minister as far as I am concerned.


#60 Sail1 on 05.01.11 at 6:28 am

If this is an attempt by the Conservatives to discredit Layton, they are sadly misjudging the electorate. All we have to do is look back at the Clinton years, this attempt by the Sun will increase his popularity. He now has my vote.

#61 Big Al (New) on 05.01.11 at 6:29 am

I think right from the start, based on the Tory platform of fear, people were aware of the deceit. Who in their right mind would believe under normal circumstances that a coalition gov’t would be formed for the sake of holding power, with the Bloc. In fact I offer that the only party that I can see doing this would be the Conservatives, who’s desire of ruling at any cost is the
I don’t care if Jack got a ____job or Iggy got a _____job as long as Harper gets f–ked in the end that’s all that matters. I’m a Conservative and this abomination of the Reform/Conservative party is not my party, but a creation of Corporate greed and sleaze hijacking our political system.

#62 mackie on 05.01.11 at 6:39 am

The final nail in the coffin for Conservatives. If I had a hammer I’d gladly pound it in myself. Thanks Garth for having the courage to call a spade a spade.

#63 McSteve on 05.01.11 at 6:44 am

The sadder thing is we have been spared the “Fox / CNN” hyperbole to date. I was hoping that Sun TV would have some characteristic Canadian gentleness. Welcome to the new era of media which brings us what we despise most about America.

How long until they start asking for Jack Layon’s Birth Certificate or report cards?

Footnote: In Canada we have no such rule about the birth place of the PM.

Footnote 2:Coalitions are also a legal form of government in a Westminster palimentary system.

Footnote 3: We have had coalitions in Canada before.

HOWEVER, the current Tories never let “facts” get in the way of a good story.

#64 reality guy on 05.01.11 at 6:48 am

I use to think Social Media was a joke,

But now, with the main media continuously brainwashing us with crap.

I rely on social media to get at the truth.

Anyways Dubia was once sought out to be the center of the universe. Now just a pile of debt

#65 bob on 05.01.11 at 7:06 am

You’re all complining with full stomachs here.
You’ve all been saying, hoping and praying for some far stretched, quasi-impossible dreams to come true such as renting is great, home owners are idiots, the cons are evil, etc. Only you here ( 200 or so among 34 000 000 other Canadians) are right about everything.
Well looking back since early 2009 you’re all- yes all – wrong. Dead wrong.
A total left wing, socialistic utopic discourse carries here on… All words & no action. You bring forwards all the problems you see but yet offer no solutions. so typical. Get ready for another 4 years of Stephen Harper.

#66 CalgaryRocks on 05.01.11 at 7:12 am

Again, it’s Harper’s fault that Jack found himself with a prostitute.

What a bunch of whinny socialists that can give it but can’t take it.

#67 RMT on 05.01.11 at 7:26 am

Registered Massage Therapists are always trying to distinguish themselves in the public eye from “body rub parlours.” Incredulous that a councillor be found at an establishment licensed by the City of Toronto for rub and tug and claim not to know any better. l guess eJackuLayton has lost the RMT vote. The story makes sick.

#68 Adam on 05.01.11 at 7:28 am

The NDP will run our economy into the ground. Their economic plan is a joke. I vote for Garth for PM.

#69 Martin on 05.01.11 at 7:40 am

– he’s been a big champion, at least in the media, of the anti-human trafficking cause yet these places are some of the biggest culprits; to me this speaks to his hypocrisy

– show’s his true character that he’s just like all the other politicians – rather than fess up and admit the obvious, he and his wife try and dismiss, downplay, and omit the truth when asked – this character trait is very relevant to my assessment of candidates

– I lived in the area in question, there is no way, I mean no way, anyone with half a wit would mistake that place with a real massage clinic. Open 24 hours, neon signs, ads in papers touting beautiful young asian girls, new girls etc. No RMT services offered. Layton’s response is disingenuous to the electorate, it is very relevant to see how he reacts under this pressure…very relevant and very telling…VERY HARPER-like!

#70 ER on 05.01.11 at 7:41 am

Harper might be desperate enough to form a coalition with the Bloc so he can have 4 years of unfettered power. This was, afterall, his last and best chance to get a majority.

I know Gilles Duceppe would go for a CON BLOC coalition in a heartbeat considering the Bloc’s freefall in Quebec.

Give Harper ZERO options to ruin this country:

Vote NDP in close Con vs. NDP races.
Vote GRN in Saanich-Gulf Islands.
Vote LIB in close Con vs. LIB races.

Harper’s gotta go. He’s done enough damage already.

#71 SMOKING MAN on 05.01.11 at 7:45 am

So true Garth, I have voted for the Conservatives in the last 10 elections, including you once. This was a low blow.

So here are my real choices:

Iky Iggy
Hosnai Harper
Or Jack Off.

Voting Orange for the first time in my life just out of spite……

Got to run my back is starting to hurt…….:)

#72 miketheengineer on 05.01.11 at 7:49 am

Garth et al:

#17 – Nostradamus le Mad Dude

I had expected a major correction and downturn by now. For some reason, Canada has not seen the RE downturn, that I had expected. The Japan “thing” and the US “disaster with tornadoes” which has affected ~25% of the central part of the US is going to cause “issues in the future” that on one can accurately predict. One thing to get “a good set of camping gear” not sure when we will need it.

Apparently there is another “solar storm happening”

And you know what happens when that happens, more earthquakes within a few days. New Madrid this time? Roll the earthquake dice.

One thing that I know will happen. (1) Inflation…it is coming, and I don’t know how bad it will be.

What I am concerned about is the rise in Fuel prices. High fuel prices mean disaster for Auto Producers. People with less money don’t buy cars. Through the fact that Toyota is running at ~50%…it should get really interesting about Xmas time. Be prepared for a second dip in the 4th qtr of bad, how long, who knows. Roll the dice.

When the 3rd and 4th quarter results come in, companies will react, and will react according to declining profits….

#73 Herb on 05.01.11 at 7:54 am

“… the end of Mr. Harper.”

It better be, or it will be the end of what used to be the peaceable kingdom.

Who could have known – Harper turned out to be a reptilian kitten eater after all!

#74 LH on 05.01.11 at 8:07 am

it’s confirmed, Jack “the John” Layton IS afflicted with YELLOW FEVER, just as I suspected yesterday!

#75 Don on 05.01.11 at 8:20 am

While I give the CPC war room no credit for ethics, I do give them credit for smarts. This seems far too ham-fisted for that lot. That could be explained away with panic, but I think it’s more likely that Sun Media was an independent agent in this one, hoping for a big splash to prove their arrival as a serious news network. This stinks less of Harper and more of Levant.

But the rest is true – this is going to backfire on the Tories, and on SunNN. Good riddance to both.

As for Layton’s policy book, I’m not too worked up about the weaker parts. Some of the policies were kind of like some of the NDP candidates in Quebec (or Alberta, for that matter): placeholders. They’re not winning a majority, and they can use the excuse of getting along with the Liberals to moderate some of the crazier and less-well-thought-out bits.

Provincially, NDP governments have always been more moderate than they looked coming in. I suspect that’s just a part of governing… it’s hard to remain ideological in the face of the required pragmatism to solve actual problems in the here and now. The spectre of Rae’s Ontario government has been kicked around, and they do have one thing in common – like Rae in ’90, Layton is about to walk into an economy heading toward real trouble, as the writer and the readers of this blog are constantly pointing out. Yes, the NDP will probably be raising taxes. I’ll take that over the CPC lowering taxes and running up a huge debt to go with our record levels of personal debt.

In the end, an essentially leaderless Liberal party may prop up the CPC to avoid a threatened quick election, as if that was Harper’s decision and not the Governor-General’s. But I hope not. The contempt charge was not just a legal description – this Prime Minister has shown contempt for Parliament, contempt for his political opponents, contempt for Canada and her political traditions. Again I say, good riddance.

#76 Ret on 05.01.11 at 8:33 am

Should we buy some US$ tomorrow morning? If the NDP rule at the end of the day, the beaver buck will take a hit.

#77 Nemesis on 05.01.11 at 8:53 am

“There [are] no limit[s] when it come[s] to the backroom boys in the federal Conservative party… Covered with Tory fingerprints”… Hon. GT

Funny you should say that, GT – as ‘Nemesis’ knows ‘a thing or two’ about ‘fingerprints’… ;)

Time to populate/plot that RomanAClef, eh what?

#78 Evangeline on 05.01.11 at 8:54 am

and if someone had released info about Harper at a massage parlour, most people who think it was eviiiiiiiiiiiiiil to do this to Jack would be gleefully cheering their heads off

I hate how politics makes such hyprocrites out of people, both leaders and followers

#79 S.B. on 05.01.11 at 9:28 am

Welcome to FOX North! The Toronto Sun is no longer the Little Paper that Grew.

They dumped Eric Margolis because he would no longer shill for the corporate war-makers.

Here’s a list of the good guys and gals, and Garth is on this list:

#80 eddy on 05.01.11 at 9:34 am

The scandal, and the polls (easily faked) could be a ruse to scare folks into the arms of the cons or libs. Folks, there is no one to vote for-Haarper would make a great Prime Minister of Israel, Duceppe whould make a great PM of France, Layton AND Ignatieff would both make great PMs of Russia. Where does that leave us?

#81 brico on 05.01.11 at 9:45 am

Harper must go.

I am a past Conservative voter. However the best way to get rid of Harper for the good of the Conservative Party is to vote for Jack Layton. I sure hope Harper falls at the next leadership review or I hope he resigns in humiliation on Monday night.

The lack of ethics, poor economic stewardship for a so called “economist”, wasting tax payers money (G8), income trust betrayal, and on and on.

In Calgary and voting NDP!

#82 David B on 05.01.11 at 9:49 am

Speaking of Social Media …. just look at what our talented upstanding young generation can put out.

Couple this from words from a well respected older journalist:

so get out and Vote Vote, Vote for Democracy on the 2nd May.

#83 Jim on 05.01.11 at 9:54 am

I was sitting on the fence all month………….now I have decided. The Conservatives have just lost my vote! I’m voting for Jack Layton on Monday!


#84 Abitibidoug on 05.01.11 at 9:55 am

Yesterday (Saturday) I had the opportunity to hear Rick Mercer speaking live to an audience in London, Ontario. What did he say? He was encouraging everyone, especially you younger people, to get out and vote. Good advice!

#85 rick from uruguay on 05.01.11 at 9:59 am

As an international businessman constantly traveling internationally, I have experience the damage wrought by the Harper government to Canada’s image and relationships overseas. Since Harpers ascendancy to the throne, Canadians are now forced to pay excessive visa charges ($100+) to visit Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Dubai and countless other, once welcoming Canadian friendly nations. This so-called, business-friendly party is wreaking havoc on Canada’s image overseas that translates to fewer Canadian jobs at home. Fellow business-minded- Canadians, ”DUMP THIS PATHETIC TURKEY” now!
If I wanted a Fox-news supported, mean, undemocratic, small-minded Babbitt clone, I would have moved to the USA. Canadians deserve better!! I am voting to The NDP for the first time in my life and feel good about it. It’s time to move on!

#86 Dr. WAYNE on 05.01.11 at 10:03 am

The Three Stooges are in this election … which stooge are you voting for?

#87 Daisy Mae on 05.01.11 at 10:05 am

Well, that is just unbelievable. How low can a party go? But then…you would know, Garth. Can’t tell you how disgusted I am.

I have no intention of voting for ANY of these creeps. I fully intend to spoil my ballet. And NO ONE

#88 Daisy Mae on 05.01.11 at 10:06 am

…can say I didn’t voice my opinion.

#89 Boombust on 05.01.11 at 10:09 am

“The psychopath will stop at nothing.”

I believe you are right about that. Flat affect, lack of empathy, devious and manipulative.

The man is a menace. Get him out.

#90 McSteve on 05.01.11 at 10:09 am

Okay here’s a question for the Harper supporters:

Assuming both are true, what’s worse – Jack went to a “rub and tug” or Harper broke so many rules that he was found in contempt of parliament and our democracy?

(I know the hardcore Conservative still feel it is more egregious to get a BJ from an intern than it was to start an unprovoked, illegitimate war that killed 100,000+ people).

#91 James on 05.01.11 at 10:10 am

Well we now have the most sensitive low intelligence test ever devised. A little light goes off if you voted for Bush or Harper 3 times in a row.

#92 Love this Blog on 05.01.11 at 10:10 am

I guess I’m not as sensitive as most………this story, and whomever did/did not write it/leak it, etc. will have absolutely no impact on how I vote.

Methinks everyone is overreacting.

#93 Mr. Reality on 05.01.11 at 10:11 am

Get those shorts in while you can. This is going to be a wild ride!


#94 Pete in Barrie on 05.01.11 at 10:19 am

I am the only one in my neighbourhood with an orange sign; the rest are blue. After voting conservative all my life, I decided months ago, when the c’s decided to use the senate to crush a bill, to cast my lots elsewhere.

Why is it that so many of the good conservative cabinet has decided not to run this time: Jim Prentice, Stockwell Day, Chuck Strahl?

Unfortunately, it doesn’t make a difference here, as Patrick Brown has this riding locked up. Wish I lived just west of here and could vote for an independent conservative – Guergis.

Guess the conservatives will have a couple of years to clean up their act and wait for the next election to form government again.

#95 Painted Toenails on 05.01.11 at 10:22 am

#70 ER – excellent and exactly!
Vote NDP in close Con vs. NDP races.
Vote GRN in Saanich-Gulf Islands.
Vote LIB in close Con vs. LIB races.

And here’s a thought….if and it’s a big IF Layton actually *gasp* knew the massage parlour wasn’t really a candle scented, whale echo filled, white-towelled, genteel spa…… So. What. LOL!

#96 UK Love Calling on 05.01.11 at 10:27 am

@9 – Notagreaterfool:
Don’t be a fool. Canada has participated on the same level as its constituents in war, politics, and the economy for years and years. Your population has chosen to look the other way with that snide canadian superiority and naivety like you have a genetic predisposition to all things good. Only now, its all coming home at once and its now time to pay the piper. Get over yourselves and realize canada’s day of reckoning is here. The tables are turning rather quickly.

@15 – Mel:
What exactly are US style politics? Their political system is extremely complex and more stable than canaduh’s. They will have their hick ups by which the media jumps all over, and then you think this is the “norm” within their system. This side show is happening in Canada by your own politicians, your own media, and your own voters. Is this what you believe is US style politics, or only what you have been brainwashed to believe. You’re no different and no better at all than the one’s you obsess about 24/7. You’re really just their 51st state.

@27: TS –
This has been your political systems for years and years. You’re only starting to take note? I love how when it isn’t putting canada in the best light that it always is somehow tied back to the US. This goes back to my previous posts. Take a little responsibility for yourselves.

@33: Casanova –
You can’t believe you have such things in canada? Are you devoid of eyes, ears, and a brain? All of the canadian media is deemed some of the worst “news” on the tele. Haven’t you been watching? Your system has been bought and paid by real estate agents and lack luster cons. Please tell me you are joking when you say you can’t believe you have such things in canada.

@42: Mad Vancouver –

@44: Race Against Time –
You said, “So stupid, so infantile, so un-canadian…” Actually, it is perfectly canadian. This proves my point for the delusion your population chooses to continue to partake.

@63: McSteve –
Americans have significantly better access to better media coverage than canadians and they use it. I’ve lived in both countries and wanted to shoot myself after living in canada. You’ve been brainwashed into thinking canada is all lolipops, rainbows, and roses. You’ve been taught that US media is comprised of Fox (Rupert Muroch, the Aussie) and Extra. canadians get their news from GlobalTV, CBC, and Yahoo (Rupert Murdoch, the same Aussie who brings your Fox). Stop believing everything you read/watch and being a fool. BBC America (of course and thank you), CNBC, CNN, NPR, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, etc. are all viable and credible sources for news in the US that most every American uses. I need to point out what happened in your country would not have happened in the US. They would have at least put it on a credible news source first. You are on your own with this one. Final thought, your anchors wear too much make up, have horrible bleach jobs on their hair, and dress as if they’re going to a night club afterward.

#97 brainsail on 05.01.11 at 10:33 am

I’m with The American. Prudent voters trying to make a decision at the last moment should detach themselves from stupid events like the massage parlor incident and focus on more important issues like the proposed NDP budget.

Review the budget in the link GT provided. It contains nothing but adders to an already bloated public sector. 26% of the working population presently works for the public sector. The budget numbers are huge and many have been rounded to the nearest $100M or $B amounts. It’s not credible and is nothing but WAGs based on dartboard results.

I now know who I would not vote for if I could vote in Canada.

#98 Hoof - Hearted on 05.01.11 at 10:35 am

This is ridiculous:

Now we have a perception that this should backfire and let Layton win ?

I hope not.

#99 Simon James on 05.01.11 at 10:40 am

I agree with flybynite. Mr. Harper’s Con-artists have done enormous damage to the image of Canada internationally. Most of my business is done in Europe and the Middle East and the reputation of the decent, welcoming and open-minded Canada has been tarnished by this cretin. Selling Canadian goods and services become much harder since Mr. Harper has come to power and Canadian jobs suffer. The Conservatives have lost my vote to Mr. Layton for the first time ever!

#100 Hoof - Hearted on 05.01.11 at 10:43 am


Don’t automatically drag Harper(or Iggy and May) into this.

Cops gather evidence as part of the job. They have been known to unleash any/all dirt re parties they don’t like.

At least Layton wasn’t in the doggie position like he will be to Canada if he gets in, with Duceppe humping his leg.

#101 dd on 05.01.11 at 10:43 am

…The Jack Layton massage story, unleashed Friday night through Sun TV, and Saturday in Sun newspapers….

This is big money. Period. Scared to death.

Your articles scaring people about Alberta being made into a national park etc if Jack L gets in doesn’t help. You are part of the problem Garth.

Would make a damn fine park. — Garth

#102 ayn rand on 05.01.11 at 10:47 am

Closet NDPer, Garth?

You must read more closely. — Garth

#103 ayn rand on 05.01.11 at 10:50 am

I thought Garth worked with Layton’s dad when Robert Layton was in Mulroney’s Cabinet??? Wonder how far the apple falls from the tree?

Bob Layton was a great MP and a fine example of a progressive conservative. We shall see. — Garth

#104 dd on 05.01.11 at 10:58 am

#1 Mariea on 04.30.11 at 10:56 pm
I’m just stunned beyond words. I live in Calgary. What is going to happen to us?
………………………………………………………………………It is part of the disinformation that is always out there. This site is part of the problem.

What disinformation would that be? — Garth

#105 David Jensen on 05.01.11 at 10:58 am

Low Blow?

Sounds like Jack is the one who got that, but the cops didn’t catch the act, so they couldn’t charge him.

The biggest low blow is the one our economy is going to take if the economically illiterate of this country continue on this self-destructive path of voting NDP.

#106 Veej on 05.01.11 at 11:03 am

So now the questions are: what is Jacko going to do with CMHC and what will he do with ongoing immigration abuse of the system through fraud and corruption?

#107 jjpetes on 05.01.11 at 11:05 am


I have been to some of the comments sections from the media regarding this story and have found support for Jack Layton has definitely not been positive. Its hard to spin doc this Doc as you yourself seem quite liberal when it comes to sexual innuendo’s.

Canadians in general are more conservative when it comes to these issues and to suggest that it would do more good than bad to the NDP is simply not true.

Sure I could put on strips of tinfoil on my hat and suggest the conspiracy for the timing of the release of this story is obvious. I will even allow this suggestion to be so, either way, this issue would have surfaced sooner or later. What is obvious is the fact this will do more damage to his support than support no doubt about it.

I would have not supported Layton even prior to this story because as Thatcher puts it, socialism works until you run out of other peoples money. If Layton were prime M there would be a sugar spending high for the first while then reality would cave into us with tax increases and out of control deficits, not like we’re close to that now.

That and the fact Layton would alter the landscape (or potentially will) of Canadian oil sands projects for quite some time. You may diss big trucks with balls in Alberta all you want Mr. Turner but they pay a significant amount into your MP Pension your so reluctant to receive I am sure. Lets go with several other provinces whom benefit from Canadian Tar Sands (can we leave out the Alberta of this for once please?). Only an ex-politician with a Hummer ( *good grief ) would criticize where he fails in his own hipocrisy.


I am not endorsing or condemning any political leader, just stating the obvious. This is a pivotal vote. Three of four leaders probably won’t be around a year from now. As for your inability to make an argument without attacking me, that’s your failing. I donate my $26,000 annual pension from Parliamentary service and, as a scared Albertan, I’d think you’d love a hydrocarbon-sucking guy like me. So much for hypocrisy. — Garth

#108 C-Spot on 05.01.11 at 11:21 am

Yup. Total hypocrites. If it were Harper found in the bawdy house y’all wouls be singing a diferent tune.

Time for a majority. I’m sick of this crap.

#109 Danforth on 05.01.11 at 11:24 am

I’ve missed having some good ol’fashioned GarthTurner _political_ blogging !!

Those were good times…

Jack won’t win a minority government tomorrow. Harper would have to fall on a confidence vote, and the GG awards power to a coalition.

This means Jack will have plenty of comprimises to agree to, which given his willingness to sign a coalition agreement with the Tories and the Bloq a number of years ago, he’s more than willing to do.

My prediction is that the sky won’t fall with a coalition Layton gov’t….

#110 Danforth on 05.01.11 at 11:37 am

I’ve been watching CBC newsworld today.
They haven’t mentioned the massage story at all. Not a second of airtime.

#111 debtified on 05.01.11 at 11:44 am

Greetings from Fort McMurray!

I am voting for the NDP (as I did in the last elections). I realize the NDP candidate here has little hope of winning. However most of my friends here are saying they will vote for the NDP this time around. The funny thing is that the younger ones are actually the ones voting for the NDP while the boomers are still voting for the conservative. The latter do thank the former for our willingness to fund their “entitlements”.

I am fully aware of the “socialism” arguments and how bad for the oil sands business an NDP goverment will be. However, the oild sands will always be here to stay regardless of the government in power. It will be more sustainable and (even more) environmentally conscious without the Harper government.

The world will not end with an NDP government. It will be a better place without a Harper government.

#112 Dale in TO on 05.01.11 at 11:50 am

Garth: We all know how much you loathe the NDP, the ‘LITTLE MAN’S PARTY. But thank you for coming straight out and condemning the PC’s on what is no more than a slimy, underhanded, low-life, desperate attempt to undermine someone’s credibility. I have often wondered what these leaders think of each other behind the smiles and handshakes. WOULD THEY CHOKE EACH OTHER GIVEN THE CHANCE? If I was staunch conservative (and I’m not), just this last minute shameless crap would be enough to cast out the PC’s forever. Just to know that many voters feel this way gives me hope that we can rid the political arena of the mental midgets that are now in control …. Control is the key word here. Today its stay in power at any cost … Is this really who you want running your country … economy or not? Why does money have to be the only yardstick we use … look what you get for it. The sooner they go, the better I’ll sleep.

#113 Dusko Jocic on 05.01.11 at 11:53 am

Garth you are right! The Conservatives have just nailed themselves in their own coffin. There used to be rumors circulating that Jack Layton was gay. I guess now we know that’s not true. The Cons just want to alienate Jack from the senior vote. I don’t think it will work because everyone knows it’s a little too convenient for this story to come out just a few days before the election.

I just makes people mad! And that swingers mustache on Jack makes a lot more sense now. I’d rather have a sexually liberated prime minister then an uptight Con like Harper in office.

#114 eddy on 05.01.11 at 12:02 pm

Re the NDP “plans for taxes and spending”

Agreed! and they will SPEND, and BORROW like there’s no tomorrow. Who wins the election? The Rothschild banking cartel. I oppose most of what Haarper pushes, HST, G20 police show, illegal wars, holocaust museums etc. but Layton will be A LOT WORSE – a disaster. Canada is basically Rothschild and QE2’s resource rich theme park where they keep their free range slaves (that’s us) so who cares who runs the collection agency? Layton will collect more money – GUARANTEED. You don’t have any?, no prob, he’ll borrow it on your behalf, he knows what’s best for you

#115 ken on 05.01.11 at 12:05 pm

Thank you. — Garth

#116 Cellar Dwellar on 05.01.11 at 12:07 pm

One wonders how many political “experts” sat around juggling this little bomb. Trying to weight the pros and cons of releasing it to the Media. And now that it’s exploded in their hands the “Blame game” will undoubtably begin
While I personally find the whole tawdry affair revolting, and Jack Laytons’ explanations (excuses) typically pathetic. It raises a bigger issue.

How many people were voting NDP as a protest vote AGAINST the Conservatives and more importantly , Stephen Harper. That man is so unelectable its ridiculous. I’ve said it before and I will continue to say it until he’s punted down the hall to the dustbin of Canadian political history( as a footnote to the leader that lost to the first NDP majority!). Harper needs to be forced out of the Conservative Party leadership. He’s a major liability to the party. If he has any decency left he will resign within days of the election of an NDP majority. Or FORCED out!

Jack Layton as Prime Minister. God help the Canadian economy. Perhaps this is our economic “Black Swan” event.
Well, either way, if he’s elected to run the country, we will only have ourselves to blame.
And on the ONLY positive side, Harper will be gone.

#117 Not 1st on 05.01.11 at 12:07 pm

I know lefties and greenies want to nail the big corporations big time. I am no lover of the corporate powers that be either, but the simple fact is many of them operate here at their own leisure and they know that they can pick up shop and be set up in mexico, china or india in a few months. 20 years ago they couldn’t do that because the infrastructure wasn’t advanced enough in those countries. Thats all changed. I just ordered a bunch of furniture for my house porn project and every single thing was made in china probably with our wood.

What socialists don’t realize is those corporations are what fund the safety nets (including pensions) we do have and we have a delicate relationship with them right now. If we push that and act stupid, we are going to kill our industries for good and then people will be wondering where all the jobs went and why pet projects can’t be funded.

If we give the reins to Whacko Jacko, he is going to kill the golden goose and it won’t come back. Remember that when you put your X down tomorrow. You may not like Harper, but if he only gets a minority gov’t tomorrow, they will be looking for a new leader for him too.

#118 BrianT on 05.01.11 at 12:15 pm

IMO this debate on NDP vs Conservative is missing the point-this thing is a major Ponzi and it will likely blow up soon no matter who is PM. Whoever actually is PM is going to be the fall guy for the mess-more so if it is actually Layton because of the media ownership situation. The major problem is that even with the fake goosing of the Cdn economy by Carney/CMHC/Harper there is a high enough % of the population losing, economically speaking, that the NDP is strong. This is a mess.

#119 S.B. on 05.01.11 at 12:17 pm

Papers please! Harper faithful brownshirts:

Hundreds of Conservative supporters packed part of the Glen Stewart school gym Sunday morning to hear Prime Minister Stephen Harper rally the troops. Not everyone was allowed entry, however. At least one woman who did not have photo ID was told to leave the registration area after a campaign worker came over to her and took her Harper sticker off her jacket. More later.

#120 Barb the Proofreader on 05.01.11 at 12:17 pm


The other day I was thinking about the lies and filth that were slung at you by the Conservative Thug gang a few years ago.. At the time it brought me such sadness, a true empathy for you and your family, having to endure such senseless attacks and lies.

Now this, a wanton, evil, senseless and twisted attack by the Conservatives at Mr. Layton. I may not like him but I believe every word he said, he’s innocent.

Evil is evil….

I would hope that Canadians will quickly recognize and pounce on the fact that a smear campaign such as the never-ending ones orchestrated by Stephen Harper are the true essence of evil.

Before this week I’d had hope.. My Conservative friends here in Calgary have all said they are not voting for the Conservatives. They have various reasons, but my Conservative friends have stated they are very saddened, disgusted, angry and ashamed of the past five years.

I again volunteered this year, door-knocking with a Liberal candidate. From the reception at each door, there is a very big increase in the mood for change here. I hold out hope.

But things will never be the same now that a disgusting fake clumsy news channel fronting for the Conservatives has set up a store front in Canada. It’s a sad day indeed.

#121 Michael on 05.01.11 at 12:19 pm


What I care about however, is that our Politicians stop looking after themselves, and start doing it what they were elected to do, to look after the best interest of our COUNTRY!

But they are. Don’t you see that they always wear clothing that has “CANADA” on it? They ONLY think about the country, don’t be silly now. The clothing says it all.

#122 BrianT on 05.01.11 at 12:19 pm

One more thing-no matter who wins this election you can forget about us getting a Happy Ending.

#123 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 12:20 pm

#6 Einsam Solo on 04.30.11 at 11:12 pm
SHarper’s government fell on the finding of contempt of parliament. That’s all the man is worthy of, contempt.


Agree. And now he’s asking for Libs to vote for him. What a sleaze after he’s spent 5 years demonising Dion and Ignatieff. His desperation is showing.

#124 Not 1st on 05.01.11 at 12:20 pm

Imagine the youth of this country finally getting off their butts to vote and then stepping into the polling station and shooting themselves in the face with a vote for Jumpin’ Jack.

If you are not informed or semi-intelligent, stay home and watch TV or something.

#125 Barb the Proofreader on 05.01.11 at 12:24 pm

To: #12 nonplused,

You are completely un-informed about prostitution. I have helped women for decades. Females do not “choose” to get into prostitution, most are led there by violently implanted low esteem, victims of early life sexual abuse.

Secondly, you are also un-informed about what happens whenever it has been legalized.. simply MORE organized crime that operate outside the legal arena, more danger for girls, as the industry lust for younger and younger victims.
Shame on you for being so filthily ignorant. Read about it:
10 Reasons for Not Legalizing Prostitution

And as far as the utterly disgusting act by Fox news of the north, this so-called ‘Breaking News’ from 1996 is the most filthy smear in Canadian history and a completely disgusting act of violating the public’s trust. It’s so typical of Stephen Harper’s never-ending campaign of filth and misinformation.

#126 BrianT on 05.01.11 at 12:25 pm

#107JJpetes-I don’t know what part of Canada you are posting from but here in Toronto every yr they hold the biggest gay/nude parade on the planet. Toronto strip clubs are at the top of the North American heap next to Montreal, and American businessmen regard this place as basically sin city.

#127 Cellar Dwellar on 05.01.11 at 12:28 pm

@#65 bob
Glad you name only has 3 letters in it. Pretty hard to misspell “bob” isnt it ?
As for your comment,
“….Only you here ( 200 or so among 34 000 000 other Canadians) are right about everything……”
Misses the radical concept of “free speech” on a blog where everyone( even you ) are allowed to voice their opinion.

As for your other comment,
“… A total left wing, socialistic utopic discourse carries here on… ”
That statement is absurd . I can think of a lot of things to describe Garth(sorry Garth) but “socialist” isnt one of them.
Yes , the arguements voiced here are economic, political and a bizarre mish mash of doomers, squirrel and buck shot survivalists, etc. .
Basically an amusing back and forth discourse of opinions

Go back to your closet and keep pulling the eyes off of Jack Layton dolls.

#128 ******Breaking CON news Report******* on 05.01.11 at 12:29 pm

******** Breaking CON News Report************

In 1955 when Jack laton was 5 years old he was found at a candy store with unpaid candy in his pocket. We now go live with the retired officer who was at the candy store….. It would not surprise me how far the corporate CON’s will go to stay in power? Just so some of you CON’s don’t get excited to much this is a fake story. Sorry CON’s

#129 Barb the Proofreader on 05.01.11 at 12:30 pm

#117 Not 1st, you pretend not to realize that Canada already has some of the lowest corporate tax rates.
But far more importantly, corporations come, and stay here because of their cost savings due to our Universal Healthcare.

#130 ayn rand on 05.01.11 at 12:30 pm

“I donate my $26,000 annual pension from Parliamentary service”

Good for you! I truly mean it. What charities?

And on a budgetting aspect, what percentage do you think citizens should donate? We try 1% of take home pay and that is tough with so many competing priorities, but I think it is important to contribute to charities we believe in.

#131 Jon in Cowtown on 05.01.11 at 12:31 pm

If it’s true that women love a bad boy then Jack just got the rest of the female vote except that they too can see through this little charade.

To see a real analysis of the recent Concervative and Libaral fiscal record check out this site:

It puts to bed the myth that the Cons are good fiscal managers.

#132 The American on 05.01.11 at 12:36 pm

At #100: Hoof-Hearted, this is where the cons, whether in the U.S. or in Canada, get it all wrong. If they want to secure their jobs, they should be voting for the dems. The dems believe in levying a tax base for the purposes of law enforcement, military, infrastructure, etc. The dems only SECURE government jobs, whether it be local or national.

I love listening to cons in the military in the U.S. discuss how they will never vote for dems. I then have to point out to them it is the tax payer who pays their salaries. Oh, what a concept. The less tax basis there is, those jobs will disappear.

#133 Crow on 05.01.11 at 12:37 pm

Come on. It was not just massage. It is Clinton’s story happened in Canada. Leader of the nation must be a leader from all the angles. He must be an example of good. This story indicates that Jack Layton can not control his weak spot. How can we allow him to control Canada fate? The story demonstrate that Layton is nothing more than a hypocritical quasi-communist.

#134 CONservative = corporate socialism on 05.01.11 at 12:37 pm

Not 1st

“What socialists don’t realize is those corporations are what fund the safety nets (including pensions) we do have and we have a delicate relationship with them right now.”

What you don’t understand is corporations ENJOY the benefits of socialism which is BAILOUT to the tune of HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. That is not free markets. Corporations HATE the free market and want to keep corporate socialism alive with the CONservatives. You don’t get it and most likely never will. If the corporations don’t like it they can GET OUT of CANADA. Don’t worry mom and pops or some other company will take what they don;t want. The fact is corproations will NEVER leave only the empty threats which fool the weak minded SUN shine of propaganda reader.

#135 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 12:38 pm

#5 Mike Rotch on 04.30.11 at 11:10 pm

I fear this backfires on the Cons big time.

I HOPE this backfires on the Cons big time.

#136 Barb the Proofreader on 05.01.11 at 12:38 pm

The best thing about Harper attempting this ridiculous smear campaign against Jack……is that Jack can’t possibly ever snuggle up to Harper again. Over the past six years Jack had been Harper’s best ally in the House, conveniently helping Harper bring down a government six years ago – putting Stephen Harper in power in the first place.

#137 CalgaryBoy on 05.01.11 at 12:39 pm

I love it! There hasn’t been this much talk and want for change in a long time! Hopefully, this gets people out to vote, especially younger, educated people.


#138 Daisy Mae on 05.01.11 at 12:40 pm

#46 – Tony

“Has it been that long since the NDP cut their welfare cheques? I guess it has if the NDP gets any votes.”

The standing joke at one point in BC was that welfare recipients could declare their pets as ‘dependents’. LOL

#139 BillyG.O.A.T. on 05.01.11 at 12:45 pm

Go jack go!!!
Good bye Stephanie!!!

#140 Dorothy on 05.01.11 at 12:46 pm

It’s absolutely unbelievable that a piece of trashy gossip would warrant program interruption under the heading of “breaking news”. Particularly gossip about something that allegedly happened 16 years ago!

Whatever happened back then, no charges were laid, so therefore from a legal standpoint no wrongdoing took place. And from a personal standpoint, if his wife doesn’t believe Jack did anything wrong (or if she did, she appears to have forgiven him) then it’s nobody else’s business but theirs.

The decision of who to vote for should be made on policy, and ONLY on policy. Basing it on our assessment of the character of the leader, would have disqualified many great leaders of the past. Because history proves some of our greatest leaders were not always the nicest people.

#141 S.B. on 05.01.11 at 12:58 pm

These never ending elections are a bit of a distraction given that our major daily expenses are in international control: the prices of food, gas, and even hydro are dictacted by the global Futures markets.

Interest rates: driven by global bond markets and by secretive quasi-private federal banks (we never elect them, now do we. Yay democracy).

So, in summary, we are screwed. We can guarantee than in a year’s time our daily costs of living will rise by at least 10%.
If oil continues its upward trajectory in the short term (pick a number: 120, 130?), look for 1.50 gas at least. By summer.

“…fun fun fun till daddy takes her T-bird away”.

Wage Slave!

#142 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 1:02 pm

#12 nonplused on 04.30.11 at 11:33 pm

I agree. Have felt this way for 35 or so years since I visited Amsterdam where the ladies in the so called Red Light district sat in ‘shop windows’ and, IIRC had to undergo monthly tests. It’s one of the oldest professions and it’ll never go away.

We gals worked at NATO in Brussels. The chaps asked us to bring back them a few trickets and some photos of those ladies in the store windows ‘ :-) I hate the idea of prostitution, but, unfortunately, it ain’t going away and I’d rather eliminate the pimps.

#143 Love this Blog on 05.01.11 at 1:04 pm

#119 S.B.

Speaking of LOW and dirty politics – why is it necessary to compare anyone to the Nazi Party?? That is comparable to the very thing we are criticizing

#144 West Coast on 05.01.11 at 1:05 pm

#1 Mariea on 04.30.11 at 10:56 pm WROTE:

“I’m just stunned beyond words. I live in Calgary. What is going to happen to us?”

The NDP is going to eat your babies and force your sons and daughters in slavery.

#145 realpaul on 05.01.11 at 1:06 pm

US has the maturity and broad shoulders that Canada lacks. In acknowledging the wrong done by a Seattle police officer who killed a citizen unjustly it shows how corrupt our system is here in Canada.

Every year more Canadians are killed by police than soldiers in Afghanistan are killed by the Taliban. But what justice do the families of the murdered get? Denials and closed ranks by the RCMP and justice system……a non binding hearing with no authority to judge. Canada is closeted fascist state…as we saw during the G20 in Toronto. At no time are we more than five minutes away from an out of control mob of uniformed thugs firing into innocent crowds.

Canada should learn from the example of mature admission of guilt expressed by the State of Washington. Our RCMP takes no respopnsibility for their actions….instead they thwart the path of justice…pay the guilty members who never stand trial…and obfuscate evidence to the point of criminal obstruction as we saw clearly during the Djikanski affair.

I think people would respect the police more if they owned up to the wrongs they have done instead of hiding behind taxpayer funded lawyers and the fog of lies that follow every incident. The excuses we are being given for the mayhem police perpetrate makes Canada look like another Zimbabwe. We should all be ashamed that we have let this go on for as long as it has.

#146 Utopia on 05.01.11 at 1:08 pm

All of us here want good government. We want responsible government too and one that is responsive to the publics needs, wishes and hopes for this great country of ours.

I genuinely want was is in the very best interests for Canada and its future and have set aside my own bias in favour of the common good.

I think that is what defines us too and is something that all of us here can agree on. Setting partisan politics aside I believe we have been challenged and engaged by the current election before us all.

For today though, lets just wish all the very best to each of the candidates who have done their level best to promote their personal vision for the betterment of our collective future. Politics is thankless as a profession. Few survive it unscathed.

But no matter what way you lean politically it is imperative that you get out and cast a ballot on Monday. That is ultimately your final say on all the debates and the many discussions. Indeed, some races will come down to the wire and will be decided by only a small handful of votes.

Your ballot really does count. Best of luck to all.

#147 Cellar Dwellar on 05.01.11 at 1:12 pm

Even if Mr. Laytons explanation that he went to the massage parlour for a “shiatsu” is the truth and nothing but the truth.
One wonders about whether his judgement is what we should be seeking in a potential Leader of Canada.
A massage parlour ? For a sports massage? Is he out of his mind?
Perhaps “next time” he should be going to a registered massage therapist at a sports clinic.
Or better yet, have the massage therapist visit 24 Sussex …..

I can see it now, a constant parade of comely Asian female massage therapists rinng the buzzer at the gate. Thank God for the Liberal immigration policies of the 70’s and 90’s for allowing the influx of such highly “skilled” workers.

Perhaps the RCMP that guarded Brian Mulroney during Karl Heinz Schreibers “brown paper bag” delivery visits can be can be pulled out of retirement to stand watch…..

Canadian politicians are just as dirty, stupid and arrogant as ANY other “democratic” country.

We deserve what we’re getting May2nd.

#148 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 1:15 pm

#16 The American on 04.30.11 at 11:41 pm

Dammmmmmmn. It is now evidently clear the connectedness and power that Harper has over the Canadian media. Kinda gross actually. I’d venture to say it may very well be over for that desperate son of a Bush.


We all know that the Sun media, National Post, Global, CTV will endorse the cons, but I gather even the Globe is once again, which I find strange considering so many of their columnists have wrote negative articles about SH.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

We’ll definitely be voting tomorrow and it won’t be for lying Stevie. Imagine, after 5 years of smearing the Libs, he’s now asking for their support. Desperation has really set in.

#149 SmarterThanYouLook on 05.01.11 at 1:15 pm

Don’t get your panties in a bunch.

After May 2nd nothing changes except for the fact that the Liberals become more irrelevant.

Harper continues to be our PM. Sorry folks.

#150 robert in london on 05.01.11 at 1:17 pm

As much as the idea of Harper and his merry fascistic band gone appeals to me I hate being disappointed. So until tomorrow at midnight I expect Harper to part the ‘red’ sea and drive through to a majority, especially if sentiment and conscience trump raw ABC strategy in certain key ridings.

#151 PeeGee on 05.01.11 at 1:17 pm

In late 2008, Harper introduced legislation to eliminate subsidies to political parties. With a great recession in progress, this was one of the key ideas to spring from his limited imagination. A few days later, the coalition was born.

Instead of addressing a serious problem for the country, Harper would rather engage in a power play that has no benefit to Canada.

He lost my vote that day.

I’m voting NDP.

#152 45north on 05.01.11 at 1:22 pm

Covered with Tory fingerprints

assumes facts not in evidence

#153 James on 05.01.11 at 1:26 pm

In my opinion Harper orchestrated the downfall of the last session of parliament with intent.

And I think that this relates DIRECTLY to the coming housing crunch.

Clearly, there can be no doubt that the time to “pay the piper” approaches. The Harper regime put mortgage rules in place fully expecting people to put themselves into unreasonable debt. And they did gobble debt like candy… mindlessly and foolishly, just as this blog has repeatedly pointed out.

The benefit to the Harper regime is that those non-thinking people who are now so in debt (thanks to the Harper regime and their own foolishness) are voters.

They are voters gaze lustfully at their newly acquired (but not paid for) granite and stainless and ooze warm fuzzies. Then they give thanks to the government that helped them acquire these things that they can really not afford.

They feel that they have been successful, all thanks to the Harper regime.

The obvious problem with this scenario is that it is simply not sustainable and the housing market (and economy) will pay for this negligence on the part of the fools who got suckered by the Harper Regime.

The time approaches for the spit to hit the spam, and many people will feel economic pain due to their foolish choices in real estate.

And of course, the wild spending spree and huge national debt incurred on our behalf by the Harper regime won’t make it any prettier.

I think Harpo orchestrated his own downfall so that someone else is “in power” when the excrement hits the fan.

Watch for the Harper regime’s faux indignation directed at the new ruling party for the sorry state of the economy to come…the sorry state that Harper and his thugs of course, caused.

They’ll lay all blame on the newly minted government and remind voters that everything was just ducky during the period that they ruled.

When they have done maximum damage to the new government (whether Lib or NDP) they’ll lead a charge back to “prosperity”. They will position themselves as the saviours, ready to rescue the damned fools with massive debt from the “current government”, provided of course that they receive a majority.

Within this foul Harper regime, Prosperity and Debt have the same meaning.

And, sadly, it will probably work, because the vast majority of the voting public is remarkably stupid.

#154 Mikey the Realtor on 05.01.11 at 1:28 pm

Unless you were in the room with Layton, I don’t believe you know what went on or if it went on. Insinuating that this was a smear by Harper just throw’s off your credibility to tell the truth instead of what tantalizes your mind.

The fact is that having a socialist like NDP in power is a threat to this country and if he does gain power it will be short lived. Be ready for another election in less then 12 months. I will vote Harper.

#155 Dark Sad Monster Bunny on 05.01.11 at 1:31 pm

Garth – can you help Barb TPR open her own blog on politics / prostitution / morals / whatever her latest cause is?? Please??

#156 Spiltbongwater on 05.01.11 at 1:33 pm

Just because they guy promises to raise corperate taxes, does not mean he actually will.

#157 Babblemaster on 05.01.11 at 1:39 pm

This story does not paint a pretty picture of John Layton. It does call his personal ethics into question. It also does cast serious doubt on the ethics of Stephen Harper and his team, although this is not a surprise discovery for most of us.

With regards to the more important issue of which party is better suited for Canada’s long-term economic health, I’m still undecided. I’ve seen the Conservative policies set us up, for what I believe, is the precipice of financial armagedon with massive personal and public debt. I don’t know that the NDP could be much worse than the Conservatives in this regard. With big thanks to the Conservativese, we are mired deep in a Ponzi scheme for sure.

Speaking of government sponsered Ponzi schemes:

#158 Love this Blog on 05.01.11 at 1:41 pm

#152 45 North


#159 What a joke on 05.01.11 at 1:44 pm

Glad to see my hard earned Coporate Tax dollars are being well spent investigating eJackuLayton. If the man had any scruptles he would resign.

#160 Jeannie on 05.01.11 at 1:47 pm

Not since the Gerda Munsinger ‘affair’ has Canada had a big sex scandal.
Who’d a thought it… Jack Layton, our very own Profumo. Nah, this is Canada, I just don’t believe it.

#161 Victoria on 05.01.11 at 1:54 pm

I decided last night that I was voting Conservative. Changed my mind. Voting NDP. Never have in my life but I will now. Lets see what happens.

#162 BB on 05.01.11 at 2:04 pm

#110 “I’ve been watching CBC newsworld today.
They haven’t mentioned the massage story at all. Not a second of airtime.”

The CBC is totally anti-Conservative. Our tax dollars supporting the supposedly “neutral” CBC. Farce.

#163 Gary in Alberta on 05.01.11 at 2:16 pm

Wowsers, what a thread of raving lunatics.

I really hope you will get what you deserve.

Might be worthwhile to consider dumping some of your leveraged Canadian investments tomorrow and might be worthwhile getting some other currencies if you plan to travel or whatever just in case things do change dramatically.

The one real good thing i like about Layton is his policy to force the banks to cut interest rates on credit cards as the banks have been gang raping consumers and customers forever without risk and really do deserve to get their asses kicked in spades.

Good luck to all in any event.

I am already out of this system and won’t vote and won’t go back.

#164 S.B. on 05.01.11 at 2:24 pm

Just imagine if a tiny smidgin of that $35b for jets and $9b for prisons was returned to its rightful owners – us – and used to build fancy new schools across the land, alleviating the overcrowing and vaulting Canada to new levels and standards of education. The envy of the world!

Or not: an educated population is a dangerous threat to the leaders! Our educators? We lambast them as greedy union goons.

Sure, further education is available if you’d to like 50-100k in student loan debt. Canada will never become renouned country in the world. As mentioned by an earlier poster Canada is seen as a resource-rich playground by the elites. Not much different than Iraq or Libya, I might imagine. We are bombed economically, they get the WMD.

“We know he has WMD” (That’s sooo last decade).
Won’t get fooled again, so: “He’s killing his own people!!” (So let’s drop some soon-to-be surplus WMD onto them, so we may buy the latest and greatest toys).

The govt speaks of “international obligations”. WTH? What obligations? We need not bomb 2nd World countries if we do not feel like it.

Ignorance is Knowledge
War is Peace

#165 Barb the Proofreader on 05.01.11 at 2:26 pm

I’m just one Canadian, but if I figured it out, then I believe all Canadians will figure it out..

Thanks Mr. Harper, you just made sure that 2+2 adds up. I’m talking about what happened six years ago.

Dear Stephen, I know I have your blessing in sharing my thoughts now..

Something has come full circle in the relationship between Stephen Harper and Jack Layton.. something’s been confirmed..

I’ve long thought that Stephen Harper had tried to hold something over Jack Layton’s head… albeit only innuendo, about an innocent mishap, it began to dawn on me six years ago that I thought Mr. Layton was playing an unusually key, vital role in bringing down the government, practically personally assisting Stephen Harper into power with their mutual agreements to act together at that time. I couldn’t figure out why Layton would help such an evil character like Harper. How could Jack have been so dumb. But I get it now. Jack was probably promised by Harper that the innocent but bad-looking incident could be held over his head but Harper would give his word that it would never be even attempted.

How’s that for obvious now that we have the benefit of hindsight. And here’s how we know:

In 2005, sleazy, forced innuendo wouldn’t seem like much ammunition, but Jack would be pleased that no one was going to stoop to something that ridiculous, and so he felt the best option is to go along with Harper’s takeover.

Now it all makes sense.

This month, during and after the week of the debates, the relationship took it’s death leap.. Mr. Layton threw a big punch at Mr. Harper, remember? Jack (and Gilles Duceppe) revealed the full details of their private meetings with Stephen Harper in hotel rooms about a Harper-led Coalition. But now, both Duceppe and Layton were merciless earlier this month telling the truth about Harper’s lies. Jack changed the course of events and surely the narcissitic Harper couldn’t stand it, and dropped his own gloves with this attempt at slander via the Reform Party’s fake news channel.

As Murry Dobbin wrote, “Harper has rewritten the rules on how far executive dictatorship can go in this country…… Mr Harper’s severe personality disorder…. His malignant narcissism was held in check…. But, once he achieved it.. his will to dominate, his contempt for others, and his incapacity for remorse gradually came to dominate his government. It has gotten worse over the past five years and can only continue on that track the longer he is in charge.”

So, it’s confirmed.

Sadly, it’s just going to get far worse with Mr. Harper. Forget that Canada used to be a good country – it’s reputation will be totally and irreversibly devastated by the time Mr. Harper wields all his power. And, saying ‘I told you so’ does not taste sweet.

#166 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 2:28 pm

#28 Not 1st on 05.01.11 at 12:17 am
I agree its low blow, but as far as I am concerned, everything needs to be done to stop the socialists in their tracks. You will all thank Harper later for dodging a bullet for canada.


Yeah – LOL – A billion here a billion there from the Harpo govt. – G20

And harpo pushed for bank deregulation.

#167 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 2:31 pm

#21 Silentblogger on 04.30.11 at 11:55 pm
Alright…it appears the idiocy of the Harper Con is complete.

I’m a Capital C Conservative but this you as*wipes is BEYOND STUPID. Harper, YOU SIR have crossed the line with this tripe…BYE BYE “Steve” (your words, not mine). THANK GOD you’ve finally made the mistake we’ve all been waiting for.


Rather reluctant to believe any Harper previous con.

#168 S.B. on 05.01.11 at 2:37 pm

#143 Love this Blog on 05.01.11 at 1:04 pm

Brownshirts is a true reference here, talking about a time when ordinary citizens were so fired up against “the other” that they took matters into their own hands. Groups of thugs causing mayhem roamed the streets.

Who ejected people out of harper rallies because of a facebook picture?
Who demanded ID and kicked them out of the event as I posted?

Who’s been calling Liberals and impersonating others, as reported in mainstream media, in Ont., PEI, and other places.
Who tore down the massive NDP election sign from the side of a building in a capital city in Canada?

Not Harper. He didn’t have to lift a finger. People willingly did it for him. Blueshirts, I guess is the new term.

#169 Bill Grable on 05.01.11 at 2:41 pm

Now Canada knows what kind of “PM” we have.

This is very disturbing and also paints the new SUN news network as a bunch of media wannabes.


This story wouldn’t pass muster in an Antartica shopping flyer, much less “mainstream”.

If this doesn’t hack you off, then you are ASLEEP.

Remember – you get the Government you deserve.

Oh, and don’t give the guff about “no fingerprints” > may as well have Herr Harper’s name on the byine.

#170 Rub and tug on 05.01.11 at 2:47 pm

I don’t think Canadians will tolerate a rub and tug prime minister and will give the Conservatives a strong majority on Monday. This will fracture the smaller parties and force them to amalgamate and create a two party system in Canada which is beneficial to all Canadians.

#171 Maxamillion on 05.01.11 at 2:50 pm

Today Stephen Harper ends his comedy tour.

#172 Nostradamus Le Mad Vlad on 05.01.11 at 3:10 pm

#112 S.B. on 04.30.11 at 10:24 pm — Hello S.B.

There are newer pix / maps out, one of which shows part of the NMF already being a new lake. The link was posted a few months ago. There are many changes afoot. See #72 miketheengineer’s post.
#26 bridgepigeon — Nice play on names / words!

#39 Industrial Guy — “He was very smart to stand back and let the other guys self destruct.” — Then the CPC shot themselves in the balls, so you are correct — Layton played it perfectly and got some unexpected help with FOX North (not that we want them).

#72 miketheengineer — “Roll the earthquake dice.”

Hi Mike. Anytime will do to divert attention away from our economies. Whoever is in power, this continent is screwed one way or the other.

Better to look after ourselves first. Charity begins at home, then help others.

#91 James — “. . . the most sensitive low intelligence test ever devised. A little light goes off if you voted for Bush or Harper 3 times in a row.”

Yep, and we’re all dumber than a sack of shit for doing so, although on my part, I haven’t voted for the Tories since the mid-80s.

#109 Danforth — “. . . the sky won’t fall with a coalition Layton gov’t….”

Along with #111 debtified — “The world will not end with an NDP government. It will be a better place without a Harper government.”

Even with a much-reduced minority, eventually Harper will be toast and you are right — we are much better off without him.

#61 Big Al (New) — “I’m a Conservative and this abomination of the Reform/Conservative party is not my party, but a creation of Corporate greed and sleaze hijacking our political system.”

Along with #73 Herb, see #114 eddy — “Who wins the election? The Rothschild banking cartel.”

That’s it in a nutshell. They tried with Iceland (lost), then they moved onto PIIGS and various other Eurozone countries, now NA. Soros, Obama, Harper etc. are just doing their dirty work for them via the m$m.

#117 Not 1st — “You may not like Harper, but if he only gets a minority gov’t tomorrow, they will be looking for a new leader for him too.”

Agreed. The 19 seats he won last time can go elsewhere, along with a few more to give him a reduced minority. That is a little more palatable.

#173 Grim Weeper on 05.01.11 at 3:10 pm

Folks at Twitter keen to massage this story about Harper’s member(ship) in Northern Foundation & remind us that his spots will never change. Ditto from me.

#174 Jack Layton next PM on 05.01.11 at 3:26 pm

Yessir…..may as well mail in the trophy….victory is mine in 24 hours.

I have already got my cabinet picked and deal with the Bloc cut. French fries in the poutine have no HST….and if the gravy is organic and no harm done to animals.

Wal Mart will be nationalized and unionized.
Canadian tire will be merged with Wal Mart.

Yessir….by this time tomorrow Ontario and Quebec will have decided the election….the west as usual will be pissed off as they see their vote meant nothing.

In light of that, as my first GREEN initiative, I will ban voting in the West……it will save on greenhouse gases and global warming.

I tell ya, this is gonna be great!

#175 Grim Weeper on 05.01.11 at 3:29 pm

#143 Love this Blog – Perhaps it’s because Harper has been well known to associate with questionable organizations such as this:

Enough. — Garth

#176 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 3:33 pm

#28 Not 1st on 05.01.11 at 12:17 am
I agree its low blow, but as far as I am concerned, everything needs to be done to stop the socialists in their tracks. You will all thank Harper later for dodging a bullet for canada.\\…………….

Get a life. Stevie already brought in a 56B deficit and wasted $1B on G8.

#177 Rene on 05.01.11 at 3:34 pm

On a completely related note, we should ask the Krista Erickson how she climbed the ladder so quickly while working for the CBC. The answer should compare to that of the mid-twenties asian girl in her story.

#178 April on 05.01.11 at 3:34 pm

#96 – UK Love Calling.
Right on!
I am a Canadian citizen but originally from Europe. I find the Canadian attitude of superiority irritating. The masses are brainwashed by media propaganda because most of us don’t know how to think critically.

#179 The American on 05.01.11 at 3:37 pm

At #133: Crow, that’s a ridiculous notion the Republicans try to play in the U.S. all the time, along with their moral superiority. In fact, Republicans (cons) have been caught more times in more sex scandals than Dems.

How about this for a change in thought. If I have a brain tumor, I am going to choose the best rated doctor in the field to operate on me. I will not give a rat’s ass if he/she is having an affair on his/her spouse. I may not agree with his/her belief system, but I know I will be taken care of with respect to receiving the proper care as needed. Please don’t confuse morality with qualification.

#180 The American on 05.01.11 at 3:38 pm

At #175: April, I’d have to agree with you on that point.

#181 Grim Weeper on 05.01.11 at 3:40 pm

#143 Love this Blog – Perhaps this will help answer your question:

#182 Makes Cents on 05.01.11 at 3:46 pm

Does anyone remember what Rahim Jaffer did? Prostitutes, cocaine, and a scandalous wife. The Sun publicly supports Harper. They downplayed that scandal.

#183 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 3:49 pm

#46 Tony on 05.01.11 at 1:33 am
But the people who vote NDP are too lazy to vote in the first place. Has it been that long since the NDP cut their welfare cheques? I guess it has if the NDP gets any votes.

Typical harpie supporter comment. I don’t vote NDP but Harpie and his supporters are really going ballistic – they’s so scared.

#184 Barb the Proofreader on 05.01.11 at 3:54 pm

#155 Dark Sad Monster Bunny
Ha. Don’t bother misrepresenting my words, I was replying with facts to another poster. Too bad for you Dark Sad Monster Bunny that you don’t know how to do that.

#185 Patz on 05.01.11 at 3:58 pm

George Orwell nailed it in 1984. One of his premises was that everyone was “guilty” of something and this fact provided a lever of control should it become necessary. One way to look at this little (very little) peccadillo of Layton’s is to ask, “Is that the best they could muster? No pedophilia?”

Contrast this with Eliot Spitzer aka Client 9. Spitzer rode his popularity as the crusader against Wall St. fraudsters into the governor’s mansion where he was poised to follow through on his campaign against Ponzi Inc. They whupped his ass good and put a stop to that PDQ.

That clip you posted Garth would make a fine SNL skit with all its earnest discussion of damp Kleenexes. Oh the SHAME!

#186 Pr on 05.01.11 at 4:19 pm

QUEBEC PROVINCE: sales down 14% from last year!

So for the 2011 sales are down : jan -9% feb -10% march -13% and this month -14%

So IF they normalize interest rate from now on, all the renters will be look as financial genius!

#187 Cato on 05.01.11 at 4:22 pm

This is just more evidence of the rot within. Its our own fault for allowing these political animals to take root. The easy living brought on by a bubble economy created apathy. We slowly allowed ourselves to be ruled by this political elite, not just politicians but an even more powerful unelected bureaucracy.

A little revolution now and then is a healthy thing. Too often we allow media to focus on our faults and lose sight of what made western society great. Freedom & liberty is what ushered in the age of prosperity & innovation and gave us the economic foundation to lift everyone into a better society (including the social safety net). That economic foundation is now crumbling and if it falls the safety net falls with it. If we want to save this way of life we need to save the economic foundation it was built on.

Socialism at its core is the ideal that certain individuals are born superior and deserve to impose their will on others under the guise of the greater good. It has nothing to do with the betterment of society, its about power and control. It kills freedom, and with it economic strength and innovation. Speak to any candidate regardless of political stripe and you’ll find most of them are infected with it. This arrogance makes them dangerous.

The world economic crisis never ended, it simply entered a different phase and now as next stage unfolds many canadians will finally feel the pain other nations have been living under. Gov’t won’t save us, what will save us is the dismantling of top down control and the freeing of human potential that created our success in the first place.

I would be willing to bet the impact of Garth’s private reinvestment in society of tax dollars obtained from the MP pension had a far more positive impact per dollar spent then anything that came out of the stimulus package. I commend Garth for giving back. Perhaps in the not too distant future we’ll see a reawakening and we’ll finally see more people like him hold political office.

#188 wes_coast on 05.01.11 at 4:33 pm

Or maybe Jacko is so clever that he leaked that story to make it look like the Cons did it knowing there would be further pitty thrown his way with ano equal amount of backlash against the Cons. With a smile like that – who knows what lies beneith.

#189 Debtfree on 05.01.11 at 4:41 pm

@ 174 gw …holy cow . No wonder Quebec is going orange .
I still think this guy has the most radical hair of a sitting leader . He’s got steve beat.

#190 jess on 05.01.11 at 4:58 pm

Murder’s out of tune, and sweet revenge grows harsh”

Saif al-Arab and the three children killed

#191 The Phantom on 05.01.11 at 5:03 pm

Garth (and fellow bloggers):

It is late Sunday afternoon and being far away from the creature comforts and distractions of home, I find myself reading through the comments shared within this little community of folk who, despite their contradictory views, undoubtedly LOVE Canada and share the common goal of promoting that which is the very best, here at home and abroad for every citizen that calls this land their own…

On the lighter side of things, I do hope that the media’s disclosure of what events transpired in the mid 90’s doesn’t “tug” at voter’s hearts too much or “swing” their opinions one way or the other. By the same token, revelations like that can be “massaged” and “manipulated” to such an extent that anything the 5th estate “ejaculates” could be interpreted with a degree of conjecture…

At this point in time, were my colleagues here, they would undoubtedly roll their eyes and politely (most times) ask me to stop and desist…

and who says politics is boring or sterile?

the Phantom

#192 renters rule on 05.01.11 at 5:12 pm

Harper is a mean-spirited bully who does not believe in democracy. We have all witnessed and/or sadly, been subject to it over the years he has been our PM. To his petty little core, he is un-Canadian. That is why he is going to be tossed out on his can tomorrow. Canadians know that a coalition govt led by ANYONE but Harper will be an enormous improvement over the gutless crap we have been putting up with over the past few years. Initially, Harper was so distasteful as a person and political leader, in the absence of a better option, many of us did not bother to vote. I was one of those people. But the steady parade of un-democratic and bullying tactics, especially in the past couple of years (not to mention the crap economic policies), means that not only will I vote, but it will be a strategic vote, i.e., whatever it takes to keep the conservative candidate OUT.

Very much looking forward to the conservatives turning on Harper after tomorrow’s debacle. They will eat him alive, as I am sure he has earned it from them, after the years of brutality and intimidation he has wreaked on that party.

Time to turn the page, put this jack*ss behind us and move on.

#193 prairie gal on 05.01.11 at 5:12 pm

@ #117 Not 1st

What you predict (mass exodus of business) happened a long time ago. You said it yourself that your furniture is assembled in China (how cheap are you?). The only industries that are left behind can’t leave because they extract our resources. They are captive to Canada, and Canada remains captive to them.

#194 TS on 05.01.11 at 5:15 pm

To: #48 piker on 05.01.11 at 2:38 am
Interesting thought on Fantino providing the information on Jack.
Jack or John whatever his name is, was less than sincere with his answer and body language today.
The deer in the headlight look.
This was a “SPECIAL TWIST’ by the cons.
So now we have two liars.
This little maneuver just pushes my vote to the Libs.
H and the bully boys are done in my books.
P.C.’s need a housecleaning.

#195 dosouth on 05.01.11 at 5:16 pm

Stephen needs to fall on his stick for the good of what’s left of the ‘CON’servatives.

That’s what you get for hiring a discount PR firm that probably thinks ‘twit’ter is a British term for IDIOT…. say no more, say nor more!

#196 Makes Cents on 05.01.11 at 5:18 pm

I forgot to mention Rahim’s drunk driving charge, his many lies (having his friend pretend to be him in a radio interview) and not being very nice to our beloved Garth.

#197 bridgepigeon on 05.01.11 at 5:19 pm

96 177 179
Might I suggest a long walk off a short pier?

#198 industrial Guy on 05.01.11 at 5:19 pm

Canada is an amazing country. We sure do make some strange choices for leaders.

In a country where national units is still a major issue, we support a political party who’s prime Minister is the co-author of the famous Alberta Agenda’s “firewall” letter. He claims he’s the only hope for National unity. Harper displays contempt for, the Media, Parliament, any voter who would dare ask him a question and now its seems the truth. The six months of character assassination advertising against Michael Ignatius has given credence to all the past criticisms of Stephen Harper. He’s not a nice guy. A control freak without a shred of respect for anyone who holds a point of view other than his own. Providing the Conservatives with a majority would give this ex-head of the National Citizen’s Coalition free reign to remodel Canada into his own image of democracy.

I feel sorry for Michael Ignatius. He’s a brilliant academic who really is like a fish out of water in politics. It’s a blood sport as practised in this country and Ignatieff let Harper get away with too much. The backroom boy of the Party really let their leader down this time. I guess he would have made a competent Prime Minister. Ottawa would not have changed that much under him and the Public Service sure would be relieved.

Jack Layton is a really great guy but, he’s not Ed Broadbent or ready for prime time. Except for Layton, who do we know in the brain trust of the Party? His history on Toronto City Council is clear proof that his election will be eventful …. sadly, in the wrong sense of the word. If it’s the will of the people of Canada that he become the next Prime Minister. So be it ………….

#199 eddy on 05.01.11 at 5:31 pm

Where did all these socialists come from? People, the theme of this blog is personal finances and real estate ownership: Layton’s philosophy is at odds with both. Before you Cheka the box for Layton, watch ‘soviet story’

If you need more, google ‘Maurice Pinay’ and ‘Juri Lina’ and read their books. The communist revolution was NOT a workers revolution.

The only real estate Layton cares about is social housing. He will build more of it, a lot more.

#200 totalchaos on 05.01.11 at 5:39 pm

I also think that Canadians are still a conservitive bunch when it comes to masage parlours, but we are also a bunch who doesn’t look fondly on mud slinging. I think the move will push fence sitters to the Libs so we will still have a coalition government, but with Iggy at the helm. But even if it is Jack, I doubt he will be in for long. When the wheels fall off the economy, the NDP will take the blame, leaving the libs and cons an opportunity to re-group with new leadership. A good stratage, really – leave Jack holding the bag o’ poop while every one else washes their hands.

Perhapse I’ll vote green.

#201 roy Stacey on 05.01.11 at 5:43 pm

Shades of the Clinton cigar & Monica affair!!! Only with much less than meets the eye…though the stink factor is on overload.
This smells like a typical Republican smear in the states. While my taste would not favor Mr. Layton’s spend-it-all policies that isbeside the point.

Sometimes, politicians who have their heads….. cleared …are much more effective and thoughtful leaders.

Go, Jocko, GO!!!

#202 BrianT on 05.01.11 at 5:48 pm

#181Makes-Yes it is all relative-we had a PM stashing ill gotten loot in safety deposit boxes like a Sopranos character.

#203 renters rule on 05.01.11 at 5:51 pm

eddy, remain calm at all times. You are not paying attention dude: we are all very tired of right wingnuts INTERPRETTING everything for us and telling us what to think, and ahem, how to vote!

I want Jack to build social housing on your block! :-)

#204 Victor on 05.01.11 at 5:55 pm

U.S. cables dissect Canada’s leaders: WikiLeaks

The whistleblower website WikiLeaks has released sensitive U.S. diplomatic cables that reveal their behind-the-scenes take on Canada’s party leaders — on the eve of the federal election.

The cables released to several media outlets cover a six-year period that ended in early 2010. They not only provide a distillation of media accounts on key Canadian political events by U.S. officials, but include accounts from Canadian party insiders.

Among the revelations included in the diplomatic documents are accounts of Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s “vindictive pettiness,” Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff’s “lack of energy and hands-on leadership,” and New Democrat Leader Jack Layton’s “mouse of a party.”

A cable from March 2009 that is classified as confidential states the Bloc Québécois is “well-entrenched” and plays a “spoiler role” against future Liberal or Conservative majority governments.

Calls from Radio-Canada/CBC to the U.S. Embassy in Ottawa were not immediately returned.

A 10-page brief by officials in the U.S. Embassy in Canada’s capital describes Harper’s governing style in detail.

It calls him a “master political strategist” whose reputation was left “somewhat tattered” after his 2008 attempt to abolish public financing for all political parties.

“Relying on an extremely small circle of advisers and his own instincts, he has played the game of high-stakes, partisan politics well, but his reputation for decisiveness and shrewdness has been tarnished by a sometimes vindictive pettiness,” says the cable dated Jan. 2, 2009.

The cable was written a month after Harper prorogued Parliament to avoid the fall of the government on a budget-related confidence vote.

#205 Was it Harper? on 05.01.11 at 6:02 pm

Are you sure it was the cons who leaked this “story”? Jon Kay from the National Post tweeted that the liberals shopped this before in the past to him.

#206 SMOKING MAN on 05.01.11 at 6:14 pm

Today I heard Harper speak, he said vote for me and let’s go into the future on a positive note. or Vote NDP which will take us back in time.

Thought about for a moment, this is what I came up with.

1960 Dad worked, Mom stayed home, 5 Kids, no debt
1970 Dad worked, Mom worked part time, 4 Kids, no debt
1980 Dad worked, Mom worked full time , 3 Kids, a little debt
1990 Dad worked, Mom worked full time , 2 Kids, more debt
2000 Dad works 2 jobs, Mom worked full time , 1 Kid, tons of debt
2010 Dad works 2 jobs, Mom works 2 jobs, No Kids, absolutely broke and in debt.

Thanks for the advice Harpo

If Harpo get his majority this will be 2015

2015-Dad will be in one of Harpo’s new Jails for steeling baby formula, mom will have 2 jobs and hooking on the weekends just to pay for electricity.

#207 VOTING ALONE IS NOT DEMOCRACY on 05.01.11 at 6:14 pm


you know what vote REALLY counts: your purchasing power.

every time you buy something, you vote.

this is our authority in today’s world.

ratifying a closed-session political vote every few years is not REAL democracy; for here, for have no real authority.

real suffrage rights do not merely imply cyclic ratification, but also REAL input into the issues being discussed, the ideas on the table, and, ultimately, the arguments being presented.

yet, all the “issues” and “arguments” are presented to us…through either the media or the street-level “true believer” pundits.

when we are alone encouraged to “vote”, we miss the point.

yes, we should vote; but we need to also be part of the decision-making process itself.

#208 Hoof-Hearted on 05.01.11 at 6:17 pm


Is this blog show preliminary /pre-emptive strikes of the Stockholm syndrome ?

People are so scared of Jack they are falling in love with him and slagging Harper ?

Did any of you live in BC under the NDP ?

Old Jack will run the table with a clusterf*ck of socialism…what does he care?

He’s 61….he and the old lady pull in mega salary combined …typical Cadillac socialists, and will be smothered in gold plated pension when they quit.

Also, I am sick of Layton ads on YOUTUBE……I can’t even watch future PM Jim Carrey Dumb and Dumber clips without Jack cutting in.

Lefties LUV legacies, and do not give a rats ass who they hurt. The sad thing is their own groupies never get it.

#209 Missplacedmyputter on 05.01.11 at 6:19 pm

Jack may have had a “happy ending” in 1996 but not May 2 ,2011. It will be another Conservative minority government( wait for it) proped up by a Liberal coalition. The Liberals in third place , will not support the NDP and allow Jack to be prime Minister. There are more right wing Liberals that want their party to live for another day. That will come in form of a Conservative/Liberal coalition.

#210 Not 1st on 05.01.11 at 6:23 pm

What you predict (mass exodus of business) happened a long time ago. You said it yourself that your furniture is assembled in China (how cheap are you?). The only industries that are left behind can’t leave because they extract our resources. They are captive to Canada, and Canada remains captive to them.


hey prairiegal, why don’t you get off the prairies and have a look whats going on in business before you make an uninformed comment. This wasn’t walmart furniture we are talking about. A bed frame worth more than $1,000 shipped by a Canadian address, assembled in china. I bought $15,000 worth of various items, all the same story.

Now you don’t think jumpin jack has anymore business to scare away? You better wake up. Every resource extraction company in canada can move it operations offices off shore in a heartbeat. The exact thing happened in sask when the NDP was in gov’t in the 70s. Every oil company moved their offices to cowtown and just left the drilling rigs and pumpers out there. Same thing happened about 7 years ago when maple leaf foods wanted to open a bunch of processing plants in the west. They jumped right over sask and put most of them into Alberta. Sask boomed once they got a business friendly gov’t in.

Hey but you want to give socialism a chance so we can all get bigger juicy benefits from the govt’ by taxing the corporations to the hilt and breaking ourselves by trying to grease seniors and students with no experience, go for it. I 100% guarantee in 4 years you will be back here begging for someone else to vote for.

#211 MikeT on 05.01.11 at 6:40 pm

So many ppl saying they vote for Jacko.
Looks like he will finally have a (different type of a) happy end… :)

#212 VICTORIA TEA PARTY on 05.01.11 at 6:41 pm

#173 Jack Layton for PM

Right on! I guess you thought you were a lone voice in a howling sea of NDP whine! Not so.


After that smeary Toronto massagerie yarn, the high dudgeon that has been going full-tilt for about three days now, is getting a little cloying. Stop already. Most of you already know for whom you’ll plunk your vote; so do it. Thank you.

Looking back, you’d think this yarn was some kind of one-off Canadian political campaign smear-event for which there has been NO equal! Not likely.

All Canadian political parties have muckraking campaign skeletons in their closets. “You know who they are,” is something an NDPer would cluck all the while preening self-righteous feathers enroute to the nearest public trough. Holy Jack!


This weekend’s news report out of Tehran should provide our many knowledgable posters with some indigestion, and perspective, heading into tomorrow’s election day here.

Just remember, what happens in the Persian Gulf comes pounding on our door shortly thereafter, usually in the form of higher energy prices:

“The Persian Gulf has always, is and shall always belong to Iran,” General Hassan Firouzabadi, the chief of staff of Iran’s armed forces said Saturday.

A top Iranian military officer…denounced what he called an “Arab dictatorial front” and claimed that the “Persian Gulf has belonged to Iran for ever”, media reports said…

He also denounced “plots” by the Gulf Arab petro-monarchies to “carve out an identity for themselves by rejecting the identity of others,” referring to Iran.

…Relations between Iran and its Gulf Arab neighbours have deteriorated sharply…

Shiite-dominant Iran has strongly criticised Saudi Arabia’s military intervention in Sunni-ruled Bahrain aimed to help crack down on a Shiite-led uprising there…

Iran has in the past claimed Bahrain as part of its territory, and it controls three islands in the southern Gulf that are also claimed by the United Arab Emirates.

Translated into English: Iran wants the Gulf back in its possession, which it used to be before the Brits took it over a couple of centuries ago.


Also, Iran is deploying warships to the Gulf Of Aden, near Yemen, the al Qaida-infested country whose leader has decided not to quit afterall, thus guaranteeing even more unrest in an area whose waters are filled with Somali pirates and bulging oil tankers from the aforementioned Persian Gulf.


So, with this sort of stuff going on, and more to come from other locales for certain, whom do you trust, AT THIS TIME, to manage Canada’s vital interests?

Mr. Harper has five undeniable years of experience at the helm of Canada during an uncommonly bad patch of international financial upheaval and its companion political instability.

Mr. Jack, bless his heart, does NOT.

Please make sure you vote with care. Our future depends on it! All the best on our election day.


I have found a realtor who admits Victoria-area real estate prices are dropping and that sales prices are “subject to negotiations!”

Garth, your forecasts are laser-beam accurate for this town! Good stuff. The house I was looking at has been reduced by $40-grand — it’s in the high 700s — and the notion is that more price cuts are a possibility before a deal could be struck on that choice chunk of Victoria Residential Paradise.

Imagine a 600-plus thou mortgage…at THIS time in history. Mon dieu!

We may get a beatification of a realtor out of this yet! Stand by all you clever fellows over at the Holy See!

The Saints Go Marching In!

#213 GB on 05.01.11 at 6:41 pm

Newsflash: Coalition governments represent democracy at work and many efficient democratic countries have this form of government.

Any Prime Minister MUST earn the confidence of the house. That’s simply how it works.

At the end of the day, Canadians want their elected officials to respect the very thing we have fought wars over: Democracy…

#214 fiendish Thingy on 05.01.11 at 6:53 pm

@186 Cato-

Socialism at its core is the ideal that certain individuals are born superior and deserve to impose their will on others under the guise of the greater good. It has nothing to do with the betterment of society, its about power and control.

That’s actually a summary of the philosophy of Leo Strauss, the father of Neo-Conservativism.

#215 Utopia on 05.01.11 at 6:54 pm

191 Renters Rule wrote….

“Very much looking forward to the conservatives turning on Harper after tomorrow’s debacle. They will eat him alive, as I am sure he has earned it from them…”

Ha Ha. You must be kidding. Speaking as part of that constituency you refer to I can assure you we will not be eating anyone alive, let alone Stephen. On the contrary, support is growing daily and so is confidence.

Majority Government on Monday.

#216 maxx on 05.01.11 at 7:00 pm

#44 race against time- very well put and on the mark.

#217 jess on 05.01.11 at 7:01 pm

new isms that isn’t


Mine pollution condemns village to death
By David Rennie 12:00AM GMT 22 Mar 2001
For 30 years, officials in southern China have allowed government-owned mines to spew poison into the village of Shangba. Hundreds have died of cancer
…The audits also show that 30% broke rules on wages and benefits, while 24% were in breach of strict rules on involuntary labour.

In air quality, it is home to 16 of the world’s 20 most polluted cities. Water pollution is a pervasive national disaster. Its leadership in production of rare earth metals was achieved largely due to illegal pirate mining that caused intense heavy metal pollution and local health disasters. An increasing percentage of pollutants, from mercury to soot, that are deposited in the western United States are being traced all the way to China.
Zijin Mining to Cut Gold Output After Toxic Spill (Update2)
Share Business ExchangeTwitterFacebook| Email | Print | A A A By Bloomberg News

July 28 (Bloomberg) — Zijin Mining Group Co., blamed for the industry’s worst waste leakage in China in two years, said it will limit production at a gold mine in the accident area.

#218 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 7:01 pm

#46 Tony on 05.01.11 at 1:33 am
But the people who vote NDP are too lazy to vote in the first place. Has it been that long since the NDP cut their welfare cheques? I guess it has if the NDP gets any votes.


Tony you repeat the same shite at MacLeans and other sites.

#219 S.B. on 05.01.11 at 7:03 pm

Silver down 10% right now in the overnight session. So much for it being a store of money!!

#220 T.O. Bubble Boy on 05.01.11 at 7:03 pm

I didn’t realise that SUN TV was airing episodes of “Dateline NBC: to catch a predator”?

One thing I really don’t get here is the double-standard of the Conservatives: Harper was perfectly ok with Bruce Carson being his chief of staff!!!

I mean, this guy is an actual criminal who “dated” a 22-yr-old escort AND illegally lobbied for her!

How can being at a massage parlour in the 1990’s be “wrong” but Harper is “right” to be employing the 5-time criminal / escort-lover?

#221 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 7:09 pm

#49 beaker on 05.01.11 at 2:39 am

During a previous election, I clearly recall Lieton said …………

Hi con …………..

I can tell your a con cause your ilk also call the Liberals lieberals.

We just call you cons liars – sweet and short.

#222 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 7:24 pm

#73 Herb on 05.01.11 at 7:54 am
“… the end of Mr. Harper.”

It better be, or it will be the end of what used to be the peaceable kingdom.

Who could have known – Harper turned out to be a reptilian kitten eater after all!


Actually all it took was to do a search on Harper years ago and most sane people knew what he was all about.

#223 Alex on 05.01.11 at 7:24 pm

Canada is an open police state. What happened during the G20 CAN NEVER be downplayed or debunked!

Citizens of Canada were literally beaten, strip searched and left naked for hours. Women were sexually assaulted, journalists were illegally detained, and police were given broad powers that turned out to be not even exist.

#224 maxx on 05.01.11 at 7:24 pm

#105 David Jensen

“The biggest low blow is the one our economy is going to take if the economically illiterate of this country continue on this self-destructive path of voting NDP.”

Really? Take a good hard look at the masterpiece of prosperity the “economically literate” have created.

#225 Live Under Your Means on 05.01.11 at 7:30 pm

#76 Ret on 05.01.11 at 8:33 am
Should we buy some US$ tomorrow morning? If the NDP rule at the end of the day, the beaver buck will take a hit.

Seems to me I read the other day it would make no difference. You’re just scare mongering. I’m not an NDP fan.

#226 BrianT on 05.01.11 at 7:40 pm

#222Alex-Yes, but McGinty’s fingerprints were all over that thing-it wasn’t just Harper. Would Iggy have presided over the same outrage? Probably.

#227 Young Old Fart on 05.01.11 at 7:41 pm

Does that mean “rub and tugs” are going to be legalized when Layton takes over??


#228 Nostradamus Le Mad Vlad on 05.01.11 at 7:55 pm

Thought For The Day:

“We need a common enemy to unite us.” — Condoleeza Rice, March 2000″ — Hmmm. Harper – Iggy?
26:19 clip Survival Garden, living off the land.

Libya and Syria “The US no longer has the the troop strength, borrowing power, or domestic manufacturing with which to endure a prolonged conflict against Iran, Russia and China.”

Palestinian Reconciliation One word: Bravo!

Taking Sides “Russia, Venezuela, Italy join Libyan regime in accusing Nato of attempting to assassinate Muammar Gaddafi.”

Hillary Clinton “So, to please Japan (and get them to buy more US debt) Hillary Clinton is okay with Americans eating radioactive food and having severely deformed babies. Nice lady.”

Pot-pourri FEMA camps, martial law, pandemics, etc. and 4:27 clip.

Russia “We see Saudi Arabia align itself with Russia seeing how the globalist plans on double crossing the oil rich nation defaulting on US Treasury notes and toppling the House of Saud.” Retirement? Surely you jest!

We’re Not #1! Lotsa cute, pretty charts which proves we’re not #1.

Monsanto strikes again.

CFR Austerity “The worst is yet to come.”

#229 Michelle on 05.01.11 at 8:05 pm

Sigh … I miss Joe Clark.

#230 Kaganovich on 05.01.11 at 8:10 pm

213 fiendish thingy

Exactly! The Walrus ran an interesting article about the Harper’s Strausssian political philosophy developed under Tom Flanagan’s mentorship. I forget which edition it came out in but I am sure it could be found in an archive with a little effort. Sheldon Wolin also devoted a fair chunk of his work on inverted totalitarianism to explore the ideas of Strauss and their significant influence on the neo-cons ways of doing things. His work is a seminal contribution to contemporary political thought and would definitely help the reader understand what has gone on in N.A. over the past half century. Harper is a Straussian elitist, as Keith Martinson(? Lib. MP) pointed out publicly on the radio awhile back; or, he is a ‘socialist’ by Cato’s odd definition.

#231 Markey on 05.01.11 at 8:15 pm

#38 — You’re kidding, right? The announcement of this non event that happened 16 years ago is a last minute attempt to smear the reputation of Jack Layton. Someone had to work really hard to dig that one up.

#232 Jack Layton next PM on 05.01.11 at 8:16 pm

Yessir…I got Time Square rented….and the famous descending ball….start the countdown with Dick Clark.

To CrowdedElevatorFartz and BPOE;
If I catch you two together….you will be carbon taxed.

Other than that, I am going to introduce a SEX tax..yes you heard me a SEX tax. You will all be getting a metering device in the mail, and we will initially use the honour system.

You will fill out a form(not to worry..booze is taxed, so this is a natural SIN tax evolution)

We will have a sliding scale as per each act.

PS If anyone is caught cheating,(on their taxes I mean) we will be forced to hire bilingual enforcement officers…probably from Quebec.

Otherwise, start the countdown……

#233 Dave in Victoria on 05.01.11 at 10:39 pm

Harper’s propaganda finally backfired. So hopeful to say goodbye to the garbage that he and his party flog.

It’s time to return to what Canada really is, and not what Harper’s Reformers what to scare people into believing it should be.

Sha na na na, Sha na na na, hey ey ey, good bye.

#234 Dave in Victoria on 05.01.11 at 10:49 pm

“Mr. Harper has five undeniable years of experience at the helm of Canada during an uncommonly bad patch of international financial upheaval and its companion political instability.”

I think you meant ‘undefinable’. He sat around and did nothing. Given that criteria a lot of people deserve to be PM>

#235 UK Love Calling on 05.01.11 at 11:29 pm

@196 – Bridgepidgeon:

May I suggest you recognize an underlying current of anti-canadian sentiments from those who are not canadian? See, the world does NOT view canadians as wholesome, conservative, intelligent, prudent individuals. Instead, the world views canadians as uneducated “twits” and naive, misinformed little people who have a superiority complex, which mind you is not deserved, by means of propaganda they are spoon fed by their media and government. You do not understand just how insignificant you are in terms of global care, but we’re all frankly tired of hearing canadians speak of matters in which they have either no business or have no material facts (other than what their government’s media has allowed them). Maybe you should wake up and figure it out for yourself. I’m only trying to help you. The sooner you start working on your major inferiority complex to the likes of the U.S. and the U.K., the better off you will be. Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

#236 leftcoaster on 05.01.11 at 11:42 pm

I lived ten years under the NDP in BC and ten years of right wingers.
I didn’t like the NDP and I hated the Campbell Gov’t
My vote goes to the NDP.

#237 ams on 05.02.11 at 1:25 am

I would love to vote for the Conservatives in the election but I just can’t get over how petty and mean Harper is. I mean what’s the deal with not taking questions from the Media, and constantly telling me about why the liberals are bad and the NDP sucks, and the liberals have been equally as bad the attack adds have to stop. This election I voted for the NDP and if you asked me at the start of the election if I would have said not in a million years would I have voted for the NDP. Canadian politicians if you want my vote cut the attack ads out, I will not vote for any party that runs attack ads. Mr. Harper cut out the mean spirited petty politics focus on doing something great for the country and we will all vote for you.

#238 Cellar Dwellar on 05.02.11 at 1:37 am

@#228 Michelle
Joe Who ?

#239 Zorik on 05.02.11 at 3:28 am

Go NDP Go! Communist better then Fashist Conservative.
I lived in former SSSR there was no like that control
Like here in Canada. The democracy here is bulshit it is only control people

#240 Zorik on 05.02.11 at 3:32 am

Your country is corrupt guys
I am so sorry I moved here and believed Canadian dream
Looking for opportunity to leave ASAP
And I am not only one

#241 kilby on 05.02.11 at 9:54 am

Just read the last two days and saw the “massage” story. Harper keeps trying to worry us about the possibility of anybody else getting in. With the Cons in power I already feel like we are living in a dictatorship. Anybody else will be better, even if it is only 1 term!

#242 CrowdedElevatorFartz on 05.02.11 at 12:14 pm

@ #Zorik
The only thing more annoying than a stupid , loudmouthed Canadian is a “New” Canadian that hates their “adopted” country.
Why did you kleave your country in the first place?
Because your country was a dictatorship or corrupt or economically bankrupt or ALL THREE.
Zorik. Go have a bowel movement to allow more room for your brain cavity.
Then move back to Serbia or the Ukraine or Russia. I’m sure it WAY Better.
P.S. Dont forget to take the house full of leased furniture and the leased car with you back to the Motherland like so many of the “Roma” scammers do.
Bye bye and dont come back.

#243 Shame on Steve on 05.02.11 at 12:15 pm

#34 Conservative Breaking Bad

-Very well said! (& my thoughts exactly).

#244 CrowdedElevatorFartz on 05.02.11 at 12:16 pm

@#232 Jack
I would GLADLY pay the “sin tax” in order to have the opportunity to do a “cage match” with BPOE ; Where do i send the cheque?

#245 Wilde_at_heart on 05.02.11 at 1:02 pm

That’s okay. Now that Bin Laden has been found it’s all forgotten and the Tory troops are rallied. Moar Planes!

#246 jess on 05.02.11 at 2:06 pm

Escape from brothel in China’s Jilin province
A naked man was spotted racing across a rooftop in Changchun, capital of north-east China’s Jilin province after police raided a brothel. The man in question was seen desperately trying to climb down from the building during the raid. The photographer, a high school student visiting a friend nearby, picked up his cameraphone after hearing the chaos outside: “I worried his private parts would be burned by sliding down the rusty pipe.”

#247 Soylent Green is People on 05.02.11 at 2:35 pm


No Canadian government has ever been cited for contempt before.

The Washington Post
By Associated Press, Monday, March 21, 2011

This week, a parliamentary committee slapped the government with the first contempt ruling in Canada’s history, saying the Conservatives had hidden the full costs of a spending program.


#248 Robert Dudek on 05.02.11 at 2:58 pm

Well, there are an awful lot of stupid people posting in this thread. Sort of puts paid to the myth that Canadians are smarter than Americans. I’ll let everyone figure out who is whom.

#249 CrowdedElevatorFartz on 05.02.11 at 6:38 pm

So that makes you…..Canadian?

#250 Zorik on 05.02.11 at 9:49 pm

#242 CrowdedElevatorFartz on 05.02.11 at 12:14 pm
I am here because you short mind rednecks and yankee destroyed Soviet Union. America paid big money destroy it. Read history and facts. Now same they does in Middle East and started Africa. Expect new immigrants from Libia. By the way I came to this best life I believe your propaganda about canadian dream.
End up with debt which I will leave for you to pay :))