Me & you


I walked out of Burlington’s central library last night in time to start the truck and catch the nine o’clock news. In the question period following the financial lecture I’d just given, somebody asked me if I’d be running again for Parliament. It’s something I’m getting a lot these days.

And the news is certainly interesting. The Conservative who defeated me seven months ago, now a cabinet minister, left her secret briefing book in a TV studio. Then forgot about it. Then blamed her staffer, who was instantly fired. Sad stuff. No heroics here. And so much for ministerial accountability.

But were I to lose my mind once again and seek a seat in the House, it wouldn’t be the result of one woman’s folly. Instead, it would be to try and help rescue this sputtering nation before it gets blown out of the sky.

I’m not sure Canadians are paying all the attention they should be. For example, the $10 billion auto bailout is a complete gamble, and need never have happened. Private money could have been raised with a new taxless GM debenture, backed by government. We could have cut income taxes, and saved cash-strapped families, rather than pruning the GST. We could finally bring in family income-splitting to help one-income families, drop the capital gains tax on investments in job-creating small businesses or usher in tax-free municipal bonds to fund infrastructure, instead of bushels of cash from Ottawa.

The $50 billion deficit this year, to be followed by $120 billion more in new debt, is the dangerous result of reckless decisions. The effects will be felt for a long time to come, as our government borrows from the future to save its bacon today.

If more people knew what’s coming, they’d be less eager to jump into bidding wars or gorge on cheap debt,

So, the question is not about me and politics, but about me and you. Am I more helpful interpreting things, or trying to change them? Do I belong in Ottawa again, despite my bumpy ride there last time, or is that the last place for a guy like me?

See how bad I am at politics? I’m actually asking what you think. Sheesh.


#1 Craig Cantin on 06.03.09 at 11:59 pm

For the good of Canada, run again.

For the good of your family, blog.

#2 spork on 06.04.09 at 12:08 am

I used to volunteer at a daycare. I watched Question Period in the HOC today. I prefer the daycare.

#3 Jon B on 06.04.09 at 12:08 am

Garth I’m surprised you haven’t picked up on the mass ignorance of Canadians yet. So long as they have access to beer and hockey, the important issues you raise in this blog on a daily basis just aren’t on the radar screens of the voters (i.e. the small portion of the population that actually cast a vote). Leave the political BS behind you and move on up. I’d say the vast majority of elected “officials” are bottom-feeders primarily interested in their own personal advancement. If you have intentions of bettering the country, and I don’t doubt you do and that they are genuine, find another way to influence that change.

#4 landlord on 06.04.09 at 12:10 am

do it!

#5 Da HK Kid on 06.04.09 at 12:12 am

Growing up in Burlington it’s public Library was pretty cool back in the 70’s! Must look quite retro today!

Garth, your place is with the people from the deep sidelines of politics my friend. Your constituents are those here on your blog and who read your books and prescribe to thinking outside the manipulation that has always plagued us.

Keep up the great work!

#6 alberta ed on 06.04.09 at 12:16 am

Hate to think of you climbing back into that snakepit (speaking as a highly unsuccessful/unhappy former* bureaucrat (*thank God)). Your uncensored comments from the outside are much more valuable than what you could do inside the tent, so to speak…

#7 spork on 06.04.09 at 12:16 am

Found a video of the latest Calgary housing ‘boom’

Look at the Realtor sweat and dance.

Look how he whips everyone into a frenzy.

First one buyer. Then another.

Soon there are five buyers.

Then a rush of buyers.

Look at the last half who jump in because everyone is doing it.

Everyone wants to cool and slick…totally original and totally accepted by the herd.

No one wants to be left out.

Dance Realtor-boy dance!

Join the party.

#8 Bruce on 06.04.09 at 12:25 am

Cent #1: If you run and win, you’ll probably get booted out of caucus. When that happens, stay independent.

Cent #2: If you value your sanity, stay out of Ottawa. But you knew that already.

#9 adi on 06.04.09 at 12:30 am

Garth, I would certainly vote for you as an independent.
Do you belong there, between all these hyenas? I guess not. However, if you think you have the power to drive through them, then drive. Kick their full blown thief’s asses.

#10 TUT on 06.04.09 at 12:30 am

Please, stay away from active politics. It is too much to ask anyone to keep his/her integrity in a house of fools.

The effects can be devastating:
“Imagine you were a member of the parliament. Imagine you were an idiot. Sorry but I’m repeating myself.
Mark Twain ”

Is it now different? :)


#11 Don in gp on 06.04.09 at 12:34 am


Politics and honesty don’t mix. Just ask Harper.

#12 Matt on 06.04.09 at 12:37 am

Sounds like you’ve answered your own question Garth – have another crack at it.You can have more of an impact in there and the need has never been greater. Good luck – Matt

#13 Robin Giesbrecht on 06.04.09 at 12:40 am

Why not Garth, because if you are really crazy enough to consider it you might as well do it…and besides, we need more people like yourself who are not afraid to say what they may not always be right but that is not really important, you make decisions based on information on hand, and if you are right you are a hero, if not well back up and take another run at it, you’ll get there..

#14 . . . fried eggs and spam . . . on 06.04.09 at 12:50 am

“. . . Do I belong in Ottawa again, . . . the last place for a guy like me?”

You asked, so my two bits’ worth is — STEER CLEAR OF POISONOUS BULL MANURE.

If you head into yet another election, which would screw this country up even more, it will be Dead Man Walking for you.

Trounced, pilloried — whatever you want to call it, Harper’s bunch of animated borg-zombies will not let up until they have discredited you and folk who are close to you in as many ways as possible.

Way better for you to “Observe and Deduce” (Sherlock Holmes) and pass first-hand info. on to others, as well as ourselves and not be hogtied by the seniors.

Besides, not many sheeple, who are too dumbed-down by all this world-wide stuff taking place at enormous speed, ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

Wait until 2010 is in full swing and beyond. You’ll be glad you avoided the ratrace of political life.

#15 Rural RIck on 06.04.09 at 12:57 am

I’d vote for you for PM if I could but a lot of people “can’t handle the truth” so it could be tough to get votes.
Why would you want to be in office during this shit storm?
I mean unless some kinda revolution gets going here it will be the same shit different day.
But they can’t shut you up if they don’t own you. Be your own man. Live your life. Do what you do. Be the critic.
You are far more effective outside than inside but only cause you have been inside.
You could groom a candidate… Why not have it all and start the GARTH party. Core values of financial responsibility and environmental sustainability. You would have a much better time empowering others to shape politics than doing it yourself. More time off too.

#16 Bob and Doug ...the Canadian Bro's on 06.04.09 at 1:05 am

give it up……Garth.

#17 Tom on 06.04.09 at 1:12 am

Garth I am a big supporter and I’ll support you either way.

My 2 cents is that your contribution is better served telling us how the Conservatives $crewed this whole thing up.

#18 re-aligned on 06.04.09 at 1:21 am

“We could have cut income taxes, and saved cash-strapped families, rather than pruning the GST. We could finally bring in family income-splitting to help one-income families, drop the capital gains tax on investments in job-creating small businesses or usher in tax-free municipal bonds to fund infrastructure, instead of bushels of cash from Ottawa.”

That would just make too much sense – taxing consumption instead of production? Pffffff… but how would that help us spend our way out of trouble?? Flaherty never let facts get in his way before, why would he start now?

#19 re-aligned on 06.04.09 at 1:22 am

Forgot to add: “Run for that seat (please)”.

#20 Chris on 06.04.09 at 1:24 am

I’m sure many of us that read your blogs regularly likely think that you are pretty good at reading into the coming financial mess down line for the average Joe six-pack in Canada.

However, the pessimist in me believes that it is this foresight which makes you likely utterly unelectable. People want to hear that things are good and/or going to get better, and that they weren’t/aren’t idiots for buying a $1million McMansion in the burbs….

The truth hurts, and electing a politician willing to lob endless platitudes at their constituents strikes me as a helluva lot easier than trying to get elected by telling people to prepare for pain and hardship….

But, if you make the plunge again, good luck to you sir… if you were running in my riding, I would certainly vote for you…

#21 Sean in E-Town on 06.04.09 at 1:28 am

Garth, what would your thoughts be on governments treating housing with the same strategic focus that they currently do oil? Set up a strategic housing reserve, so to speak. Though it’s not nearly as fungible a commodity, this might give them more efficacy. Also, to update on my panic from yesterday, I’ll be getting roommates again this year, renting for 500 a month, and maxing out my TFSA on a preferred stock mutual fund. I’m going to wait on housing until it’s at least as stable as some junior grade bonds. And then treat it as such. Something that saves me money, has a good tax treatment, and is fairly defined benefit, if not defined contribution. That’s not housing today.

#22 LB on 06.04.09 at 1:35 am

Hey Garth:

Politics is passe.That is not where change is happening. We are beginning to realize that government is a dinosaur,reactive rather than proactive.There is a seismic shift happening in democracy as we’ve known it as we circumvent government and other institutions, facilitated by the immediacy of and universal access to the internet. Change initiated by individuals via this medium, and through referendum, is where we are all heading.Your blog, and the question you have just posed to us, is proof of this. Cutting edge, Garth. You are one who is leading us into this new frontier – why would you want to regress?

#23 JoeK on 06.04.09 at 1:39 am

Well Garth, the first time I found you, you just quit writting and have gone back to politics – 2001 I believe.

Then I heard nothing from you until they gave U the boot – 2006.

Politics are all about compremises. There is no comprimising with common sense. Think Liberals are going to let you dictate financial policy? Think Conservatives are? Don’t even think about the NDP.

My thoughts are: Steer the populace that is willing to let you guide them. Start a political ‘User Group’ to influence the local politicians so that the national parties take notice and pay heed. ‘Kick Ass’ in the media on financial stupidities done by our national politicians.

#24 WillsDad on 06.04.09 at 1:52 am

We’re better off with you out of that racket.

#25 barb the proof reader on 06.04.09 at 1:56 am

Well Garth, the doctors are in. Run.

Run for office that is!

Run again because “you” are what citizens need, whether or not they think about it…. or know it. They’re just slow, they’ll catch up. Maybe they have by now.

You’re an honest man and a good, caring citizen, with the rare duo gifts of both “street”, and, “book smarts”. Don’t be wondering if you should or shouldn’t put that to maximum use. You know this stuff… this government stuff, and your ideas/suggestions make sense — not only “to” your listener, but in practical terms, actions we all need to take, and this country needs saving. You relate to people on a level that few do, and you’ve got something to say that people need to hear. And being the energizer bunny that you are, with lotsa soul, who better? You have some gifts, so use ’em.

If the Cons throw those buses at you again, so what. At least you tried to do the right thing. And that’s the measure of a man.

Ps —

What does Dorothy think?

#26 Republic_of_Western_Canada on 06.04.09 at 2:00 am

Garth, how would you redistribute constituencies to give western Canadians a meaningful geographic representation (i.e. more allocated seats out of the total)? And what would you do to get rid of all that repugnant, awful, stupid, wasteful C-68 ‘gun-control’ garbage?

Accomplish those, and you’d have my vote. I wouldn’t care who leaves what paper in any TV station. (Hell the ‘americans’ probably have most confidential proceedings and plans in Ottawa under direct spy surveillance anyway).

One more thing, what could we do to tell Iggy the Piggy to piss right off, and remove pressure off of our government so they wouldn’t have to shovel boatloads of cash over to ontario assembly-line bums?

#27 Munch on 06.04.09 at 2:10 am


Go run for Parliament!

Go GIT yours!

At least you can WRITE – that’s more than 90% of politicians can do!

But WAIT – there’s MORE!

If you follow the example of MY glorious leader (Jacob Zuma), then you will be able to take on more WIVES! He has got THREE – AND a fiancee!

Nothing wrong with THAT, eh?


#28 Garth Vader on 06.04.09 at 2:19 am

“Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn’t” – Erica Jong

So, the question is not about me and politics, but about me and you. Am I more helpful interpreting things, or trying to change them?

Garth, thank you for your blog… you interpret things very well (in my eyes at least), you are a successful author and a respected advisor. Asking the thoughts of random Canadians and other worldwide readers deserves a pat on the back. All the current Canadian political parties are painful to say the least but what choice do we the people have… the Green party? not that the Greens don’t have a great outlook, they just are 200 years to early and can’t address the real current problems. Most, if not all the currently elected individuals are self serving and open to corruption, not unlike the politics of our closest neighbour. Modern politicians are comparable to some modern day toddlers, they will do and or manipulate anything to get what they want regardless of consequence, then have a tantrum or bully if they don’t get their way and most importantly are not disciplined or held accountable for their actions. People don’t vote due to a lack of belief and enthusiasm for whom they would have to vote for.

So my friend what’s the answer to your question?, well there is only one – Start your own political party based on your own beliefs, experience and what Canadians tell you they want and need from a political party running this great Nation. Be honest and respectful, have a clear long term vision for the Country and explain it concisely to the masses who are craving consistent truth and adaptability – no bullshit and lies. People won’t object to more taxes if the economy has a long term plan and furthermore most people want more jails, more accountability and no pussy footing around hard criminals, especially teens who get away with most crimes and continue from there, not to mention gangs. This is a great Nation with terrible leadership, the people need and want a viable alternative… are you the one Neo Turner?

In the words of the great Yoda “there is no try, there is only do and not do”

Oh… you said this was not about you and politics – sorry!!

#29 Spencer Baxter on 06.04.09 at 2:25 am

Garth – I think you should steer clear of Ottawa. As a backbencher or an Independent, you have little power to change national policy. And as we’ve seen, your independent stance on many issues rubbed many senior officials in both parties the wrong way. Also, as a Progressive Conservative, the Harper Conservative government will never welcome you back. I figure you can make a bigger impact through your blogs and books; at least that way you are your own boss. I read both your blog and Michael “Mish” Shedlock’s daily. Both provide a refreshing common sense point-of-view. There’s no common sense in Ottawa these days.

#30 Fritz on 06.04.09 at 2:33 am

Yes Garth, we need you in the worst way. However, what is the point? We need a whole bunch of people like you, not one pearl in a sea of refuse and corruption. All the parties need a complete overhaul. As we all complain about the Harper/ Reform/ Conservatives we also must remember how hated previous regimes of Trudeau, Mulrony, and Chretien were. They are all dirty and corrupt and have been for decades. You want to get back into this? They will eat you alive. Here in BC we had the Social Credit for years. After the ’81 recession and a few choice scandels the party was decimated. A fellow by the name of Gordan Wilson rejuvenated the pretty-near dead provincial Liberal Party and filled in the void. Unfortunately he could’nt keep his pecker where it belonged and was replaced by Gordan Campbell. Campbell stepped into a virtually new, unsullied party and ultimately became Premier. If you really want to run again you better take over the whole party and mold it in your (humble) image(!). If you do not, you will be eaten alive (again). It is millions or nothing. We need caring compassionate politicians who will serve the public interest not select special interest groups. Furthermore, will the USA or the Bilderbergers allow Canada to finally stand tall, proud and independant? I don’t think so…. . As Canadians we allowed ourselves to grow weak, weaned by the mother state from cradle to grave. Just look at our gun laws and our attitudes towards self defence. Not the armed forces and LE but as individuals. America beat Iraq in days but is still fighting the citizens (and zealots). Admittedly many of their weapons are looted but they also have the knowledge and will to use these weapons to defend their country. Do we? Garth, we need you no doubt but you will be trying to empty out Lake Superior with a pail. If you want to make a difference why not overtake one of Izzy Aspers choice TV stations and blast out your/our/the Canadian public’s views? If you do run, put some kind of website online so we can maybe help out with some donations before our money turns into toilet paper. Good Luck old man and God Help Us All

#31 DAN on 06.04.09 at 3:32 am


#32 wjp on 06.04.09 at 5:40 am

For me, a voter in Halton, a definite YES….but that is my own selfishness showing know as well as I do that people in Canada, and Halton in particular are not interested in having an MP represent their constituents but rather a party, therefore a man as independent as you are would only be sandpaper in Ottawa. The voters (who vote) are interested only in supporting red or blue, the ones who do not vote will only care when their standard of living reachess third world status. That shouldn’t be but a few years with the present fiscal management in Ottawa…

#33 wjp on 06.04.09 at 5:41 am

You might like the fairness of this…

#34 john m on 06.04.09 at 5:48 am

Garth the fact that you are considering going back into politics is the best news i have heard since last election.You were and are the best politician in my lifetime.You have helped more people and continue to do so than anyone i have known, you brought an openness to Government and gave the people a voice. You have earned your popularity and are a true leader .Thank you!…you give me hope. You have been bang -on right with your predictions and best of all you have the solutions…No one can honestly dispute the fact that things would have been different had the powers that be listened to you. I wish you were our Prime Minister with your own political party…you are simply the best!

#35 wjp on 06.04.09 at 6:19 am

Glimmer of hope…?
532,000 jobs lots in U.S. in April…
22,000 McJobs to be added in 2009?

#36 wjp on 06.04.09 at 6:22 am


#37 Bottoms_Up on 06.04.09 at 6:24 am

Go for it Garth. And continue your transparency (save for divulging the contents of secret documents and meetings). Set the standard.

#38 Leonard on 06.04.09 at 6:31 am

Good Day Garth,

Before running again, I would try to get like-minded people to run at the same time and that are ready and willing to stick together no matter what happen.

It is more efficient and media-friendly when you 3-4 guys fighting and denouncing the same policies.

It is quite easy today to discredit a lonely unspoken person, whether he speaks the truth or not. Anyone who read ‘Trust us, We’re Experts’ would know.

Let’s all create a new party together!

#39 Repatriated Expat on 06.04.09 at 6:44 am


Read a few of your books over the years, followed your political career, and have been following this blog for a while.

I’d support you back in the mix because:
– You are accessible and represent public sentiment, as attested by this blog
– You didn’t tow a BS political line
– You are definitely ahead of the curve

Where can I sign on?

#40 Aaron Atkinson on 06.04.09 at 6:47 am

A few months ago, my wife wasn’t too happy with my apparently radical ideas about selling our house and waiting for a year or two while real estate drops. Then, in early March, we saw an interview with you on TVO. Amazingly, you articulated the logic and the economics behind my renting theory. You saved my butt. Since then, I’ve survived on this blog.

I’d like to see you keep interpreting things for those of us that are listening but hey man, if there’s something inside you that’s pulling you back to politics, go for it. You could still blog now and then under a pseudonym. Something like, Grant R. Hurte, they’ll never figure it out.

#41 Phil G on 06.04.09 at 7:11 am

Just do it.

My Wife emailed our MP the past week regarding the schoolboy politics of Mr Harper in the media when he should be employing greater intelligence with regard to looking after our nations coffers.

We suspect he is trying to shift the focus away from his absolute pathetic incompetance.

#42 Phil G on 06.04.09 at 7:24 am

Oh forgot to mention our MP responded from his blackberry within 48 hrs.

The Harper guy’s responce to our email during the election was zero nada.

I guess he figured he there was no contest hmmm.

Until the next one when the electorate figures what a bolux the guy is.

#43 D from London, ON on 06.04.09 at 7:25 am

#5 Da HK Kid

I grew up in Burlington too (went to MMR), and spent a lot of time at the Central Library in the 70’s. I happened to be in town this week and drove by the building, and I am happy to say that it has undergone a complete reno and expansion. Very modern. Still a pleasant space too.

#44 hagbard on 06.04.09 at 7:31 am

Tinkering with the machinery of govt isn’t going to fix anything. Sort of anarchy, nothing will work, and people aren’t ready for self-government.

#45 Darlene on 06.04.09 at 7:37 am

Garth, if it was up to me, I would love to see you run again. I really appreciated your attempts at “digital democracy”. My only request is that whatever you end up deciding, please start up the commentary site again. I truely miss your take on the political upheavings.

Follow your heart, at least that way, whatever decision you make won’t leave you without a sense of accomplishment.

Best wishes, Darlene

#46 Darryl on 06.04.09 at 7:40 am

If you do get back in , please remember all the self employed consultants on this blog.Closed tenders as usual please. I’m sure that $2000.00 an hour will be ok with every one. :)

#47 wjp on 06.04.09 at 7:41 am

“All the current Canadian political parties are painful to say the least but what choice do we the people have…”
Garth Vader # 27

I suspect “they are all the same” has invaded the minds of the majority of Canadians. They are the ones who do not vote. Until the fiasco that is termed “Federal Politics” brings the country to its’ knees, there will be no change.
Doesn’t matter if it is red or blue…the ultimate power lies in the PMO and not with the people. Only when things become so bad we have to use a wheel barrow to transport the funds to buy a loaf of bread, (assuming we have the funds at all) will things change. Unfortunately, by then, it could give rise to an even worse situation, we only need look back in history to find that answer. The choive we have as Canadians (east and west) is to find the person in our local riding who will represent us first, not the party first…good luck with selling that!

#48 Joe Realtor on 06.04.09 at 7:46 am

God knows we need someone in Government that knows what they’re doing.

I got an email from Iggy last week. To an email about the income trust fiasco I sent in November 2006!!

#49 D Griffiths on 06.04.09 at 7:48 am

It’s easy for me to sit here in my comfortable chair and say, “you should run again Garth”. It’s not me who has to deal with frustration, apathy, hidden personal agendas, power-mad individuals, and even corruption in Ottawa. It’s not me who has to find a way, however difficult this may be, to engage a Canadian citizenry that seems so disconnected and apathetic toward the political process. Finally, it’s not me who has to convince my colleagues that sometimes governing means parking my own ambitions and thirst for power in order to do what’s right for the country.
So you see, nobody in his right mind would sign up for such a thankless job would he? But here’s the rub…..just imagine for one second what it would feel like to have some measure of success in “righting the ship”!
Your call Garth…..but in my humble opinion, you are badly needed on “the hill”.

#50 GB on 06.04.09 at 7:53 am

Integrity? Accountability? Thinking about our future and not immediate self preservation?

This in Ottawa?

Ya….I say run again Garth. Please.

#51 Steve outside Canada on 06.04.09 at 8:04 am

Garth, If you go back to politics. I will not mind if I cannot read your blog anymore. Because you will be teaching Canadians on TV not to do the things you are teaching us here on this blog. Canada needs a wake-up call, a reality check, a leader, a chief who will take this country and run it like a successful business model.

This can only be done if you are either, the PM or the Minister of Finance. Start your own party, find partners with the same vision as you.

Harper is done, so is Flaherty. A fresh face with a fresh team, that will get things done, is what we need.

Don’t be afraid! We all will be your proud supporter. Heck, I will even donate money to your new political party.

You have my full support, and I would convince everyone of my friends, that you are the one we need.

You can call it the National Coalition Party.

PS. Learn a bit of french to seduce Quebec and NB.

We need you.


#52 Third Chimp on 06.04.09 at 8:04 am

Its admirable that you want to do something more than write warnings and alarms. Government has some potential to ease the pain of the coming years, but most of the real change must be bottoms up. Clearly you connect well with people. Why not look at directing your altruistic energies into a local initiative aimed at real community change such as a Transition town concept for your community ? Parliament might be tempting but is it just because its what you know? Local MP can do very little, and that’s the system.

#53 Bay Street Lawyer on 06.04.09 at 8:05 am

Here, you are a play-by-play announcer / colour commentator. You help us understand what is happening and where the home team is going wrong, but you have no impact on the game or its outcome.

I’d rather you be the head coach.

It’s time to get back in the game… before it’s a blowout.

#54 double mike on 06.04.09 at 8:07 am

What we really need is a new party representing interests of middle class families. Currently there is just a political vacuum and a bunch of pork trading marionettes. I hardly can distinguish “Conservative” agenda from the “Liberal” one. Needless to say that whatever they pledge is not what they do anyway. Everything boils down to strictly personal ambitions and profits, citizenry to be damned.

Go for your own party, Garth. It’ll take much more time and a lot of legwork, but it actually might make sense.

Or maybe I’m just being naive.

#55 Nostradamus jr. on 06.04.09 at 8:14 am

You will run again, it’s in your blood.

…Your platform is National but it’s likely too late to save Canada.

Canada is now too diverse, too large to hold together.

Provincial Politics is where it’s “really” at.

The Turner Bunker will become the future Camp David.

…You heard it all here first…

#56 Herb on 06.04.09 at 8:17 am

May Dorothy and Bandit forgive me, do both!

We need your common sense, experience and financial know-how in the House, and we need you telling us what actually is going on in Ottawa. Federal politics and digital democracy both need you – get back into the loop, and expand that loop to include any Canadian who cares to follow digitally.

You have the lumps to show that you’ve been there and done that, and you don’t need further abuse by bobbleheads and fickle voters. However, we badly need real change in Ottawa, and you are one of the few who are prepared to face it and to bring it about.

Besides, I want my virtual MP back.

#57 David Bakody on 06.04.09 at 8:19 am

You will do what is in your heart no matter what people say. Since you asked I will write what I think this day.

Do not run ….. the PC party is done like dinner as the Reformers have sown the fields deep with salt, think of all the dead horses.

The pen is mightier than the sword and your quill is sharp and to the point …. let a younger person or elder statesman carry the torch for it matters not who produces good legislation as long it is done.

Canada/North America is on the down stream of world power …. the world is open to the best and brightest and Canadians missed the boat in their poor judgement backing Reform/Alliance/Conservative as damage has been already done.

I said once that the real problem was Canadians could not stand prosperity ( billions in surplus & emergency funds) so what would be different next time Garth?

Politics is addictive and now everything is politics from a staffers job to the largest corporation in the world.

You had a great run Garth and now you are in demand from coast to coast via a different venue, you can at will get your message out and should you want to influence government …. find and encourage a new polictical talent who you can support and believe in from a distance …..

War is for the young, always was and always will be … so find a young political warrior and help him/her via your experience …. you are a now a grandfather/elder statesmen in a young persons world, use it wisely.

#58 Ray MacDonald on 06.04.09 at 8:30 am

You were the best constituency MP I ever voted for, and you got even better at the job the second time around. No question about your qualifications and your passion.
However is the job up to you? I wonder.
In the last election I financially supported yourself and an impressive NDP MP from Vancouver Island North. Both of you were targeted and lost to Harperzombie candidates. So much for collective wisdom I guess.
And I’m ready to pay again, if you both decide to play again.
Personally I’d pass though. You are making a big difference doing what you do now.

#59 ritenote on 06.04.09 at 8:35 am

“But were I to lose my mind once again and seek a seat in the House, it wouldn’t be the result of one woman’s folly. Instead, it would be to try and help rescue this sputtering nation before it gets blown out of the sky.”

Best news we’ve seen in a long while! Don the cape and rescue the nation! What fun is life if we can’t lose our minds once in a while, and just go for it?! Can see you’re itching to jump back in! We voted for you last time…and would again next time. Halton needs you, Mr. Turner. The brilliant red batphone is ringing, and the Joker needs defeating…

#60 My_View on 06.04.09 at 8:42 am


Go for it, the nation needs a change and a few good men like you. I just wish this time around there is a majority government.

#61 Devil's Advocate on 06.04.09 at 8:44 am

There is a rather large movement afoot toward getting Peter Schiff to run for office south of the boarder. Ron Paul is in but his message seems largely ignored. There are others and seem to be more and more. Nothing will change until we change it. We need people like you Garth in office to make those changes.

Inch by inch change will occur. I suspect, with what lies in wait on the horizon that change will pick up pace as more and more come to realize where the status quo is taking us. “We” need to make more aware of what is happening so that “we” wake up the general apathetic voter to the need for change NOW rather than after the real damage has been done and the task of rebuilding is left to our children. “We” should be leaving a better world for our children. There are no bad children, just bad parents. Harper treats us like children and he is a bad parent as are the vast majority in office today – concerned with their own welfare rather than that of the state just like any other bad parent.

Should you run? That is a decision only you can make. Would you be successful? That is a decision we will make. Unfortunately I suspect there are not enough of us quite yet who understand the real gravity of the need for change. Might you be more successful out west? My guess is yes. Ontario has been considered the center of the universe too long. With the succumbing of the Canadian manufacturing industry to socialist models there might be a shift of some of that democratic power, not much but some, toward the west. We need someone with the kahunas to stand up and voice our discontent. Come on out and join our party. You don’t fit the eastern mould anymore, but would fit in nicely and be most welcome here.

#62 pbrasseur on 06.04.09 at 8:45 am

If you think the Conservatives have been walking all over their own principles you are right.

The Liberals however are no better: they don’t even have principles, even on the biggest issues of our time… They can rip their shirt against Free Trade one day and be all for it the next, same for the GST … Their own boss was for the Iraq invasion before he (conveniently) turned against it, that really bodes well don’t you think.

There is only one principle that really counts for politicians: Getting re-elected. For that there is only thing you can do: Go with the flow…

Politicians don’t lead, they follow, if you want to lead I’m not sure you’d accomplish more than what you are doing now.

Not to mention that in Canada the PM has all the powers, if you can’t influence the PM directly you’re just a voting machine… If your line of thinking matches the party’s your ok but otherwise…

Also a point to consider, the next decade and possibly more is going to be about fire fighting the many failures of the nanny state, all the while posturing about “making life better for Canadians”. As you know very well the numbers don’t add up, many things will have to be cut as aging will start to weight heavily on economic growth and governments expenses.

The world is changing, fast, and by what you are doing now, blogging, writing and roaming the country to share your view point, you are right in the thick of it.

But I suspect you are going to do it anyways, for some apparently politics is a drug they can’t resist.

In any case I wish you the best of luck, it’s a pleasure to read you every day.

#63 Future Expatriate on 06.04.09 at 8:45 am

You have to ask yourself, given the powers that be, where can you do the most good? They’ve already made it clear you can’t be true to yourself and your constituents and remain in office.

It will be awhile before Canada regains its sanity and does the George Bush heave-ho to Harper and his militant Christianist crew.

I might wait until then. Another defeat or heave-ho at their hands might ruin your chances permanently for later, when a sane ethical party is in power.

Of course, Canada could end up with its own clueless reactionary Obama-equivalent. But even that would be better than Harperdom and the Christianist fascists he rode in on.

#64 Sandy on 06.04.09 at 8:47 am

There are a number of reasons you could be posting this question to your bloggers, being the smart fellow that you are. However.

“Am I more helpful interpreting things, or trying to change them?”

“Interpreting them” IS changing them. Sheesh.

The question is- how many people’s views will you educate?

You are far more accessible and available to us on a blog and giving talks than in Ottawa. So get that TV show or radio show you have been thinking about- that is EXACTLY what we need. Fight fire with fire.

Do what you do so well, bigger, more.

Don’t give them a target (you) on their turf; Ottawa will bring you down with their collective focus at protecting their own butts. You ain’t as big or as powerful as Obama, yet anyway. Maybe you should have a chat with Oprah. Seriously. Get on her show.

The support will be there from us, the masses, as we are starting to get the picture that something is seriously wrong with the ‘party-line’ being fed through Ottawa and realtors etc.

See Oprah, or get a really creative, spicin’ chili hot TV spot happening and blow their little straw houses down. TV station want ratings? Give ’em ratings….

#65 Sarah on 06.04.09 at 8:53 am

I agree with the people who have suggested starting your own party or at least getting together a team of people to run. There are so many people I know who say that none of the current parties represent their views. Some of these people would even be willing to present themselves as a candidate for a start-up party, just to prove a point.

Yes, the blog is valuable, but it is so in large part because it mobilizes the readership to take action personally. What better way to make a statement that we’re all ready for a change than to mobilize your readers, who probably represent a fair proportion of Canadian ridings, on a larger scale for the good of the country?

The traditional parties can have a field day with you as a lone candidate and put all their effort into discrediting you. Or, you could put them into a tizzy with a force of a hundred political unknowns.

Just a crazy thought.

#66 Signal Loss on 06.04.09 at 8:56 am

If you ran and were successful you would be required to tow a party line that you may or may not have had a role in devising, or that you may have criticized. But, your $0.02 offered, you’d then have to tow the line. Could you do that? It would be great if you could offer advice and useful if you could do yeomans work in committee. But you’d probably have to stop blogging to the public beyond the pre-cleared stuff on your ministerial webspace.

#67 McSteve on 06.04.09 at 9:04 am


I don’t always agree with your views (okay, maybe I only disagree with about 10%), but I appreciate that you take the time to formulate them and I consider you a voice of reason.

Your message about fiscal accountability has to be heard. Although going into the House of Commons might, in theory, be the best way to voice your concerns, the party system in Canada seems to turn MP’s into voiceless automatons towing the party lines (regardless of the party). Can you overcome this without being marginalized by your party?

You would have a better idea then anyone else how to best influence change, but consider this – there are lots of Canadians who are “political figures” but aren’t politicians: (e.g., David Suzuki, Stephen Lewis). Would Suzuki be taken more seriously if he was a politician? I doubt it, but who knows.

Consider your true motives and the answer that’s right for you should become clear.

#68 NorthVanDude on 06.04.09 at 9:07 am

We need leaders like you. The greatest leaders in politics have been those who made decisions regardless of the popularity of the decision. You use common sense, and given the choice between doing what’s right and taking a bullet from your party or voters, I am convinced you would do what is right.

So get back on that horse Garth!

#69 Lucy on 06.04.09 at 9:09 am

I’ve bought and read all your books, actually only half way thru Sheeple. At this point in your life would you really want to deal with the games, nonsense and stupidy in Ottawa? My two cents is that you could be more valuable to the people by expanding what you already do. I quit voting years ago but you I’d stand behind in a heartbeat.

#70 Jeannie on 06.04.09 at 9:11 am

Garth, this blog is interesting and informative, but it reaches a small group of Canadians.
Go where the real power is, and run as an Independent. It’s a new game now, the old boys club is disintegrating, people are awaking to their own power.

This time it will be different, you’ve built an intelligent and vocal support group who’ll be more involved with the running of the country.
The so-called ‘sheeple’ have awakened from their complacency.
You know what they say about one person having the power to effect change, if you have the belly for it, I say throw your hat in the ring.

#71 cowgirl kiss on 06.04.09 at 9:12 am

Hey, do what is in your heart, of course.

For my part, I think the next 4 years are going to be hell in politics. Everyone will be looking for scapegoats, and your personal health and family should be a consideration. It will be a full on battle, and many people will be angry. It would be incredibly stressful and will take its toll. If you are a writer and speaker, you can choose when you want to step back from it all. You have credibility and a voice without the circus.

I think you do the most good out here – writing your books and speaking and being an impartial voice.

With thanks and respect,


#72 Larry on 06.04.09 at 9:23 am

Garth ask not what should i do from your bloggers, but do whats best for your country. The HOC needs MP’s like you. Go for it dude.

#73 Grantmi on 06.04.09 at 9:32 am

Yea Garth.. start a new party!!

Maybe the Shear Party, the Bahhh Party, WISC (Wolf in Sheep Clothing) Party, … THE SHEEPLE PARTY!!

and you could be little bo Garth!! lol

don’t do it Garth… you’re better off spreading the word to the flock from OUTSIDE the rendering plant!

Move Along… nothing to see here!!

#74 mikef on 06.04.09 at 9:32 am

Crazy sidenote:

Any Quebecers here?

Doesn’t the chick in the white pantsuit look like
CFCF-12’s Caroline van Vlardingan?

#75 Bill-Muskoka (NAM) on 06.04.09 at 9:35 am


These two comments pretty much sum up my opinion:

For the good of Canada, run again.
For the good of your family, blog.

#1 Craig Cantin

I used to volunteer at a daycare. I watched Question Period in the HOC today. I prefer the daycare.

#2 spork

Seriously, you are needed back in the Houce of Clowns. Perhaps they will catch on what the place is really about? You could be the Kindergarten Cop. God knows they need one!


#76 Bill-Muskoka (NAM) on 06.04.09 at 9:38 am


Run as an Independent. Now, the question is this…Can we parachute into your riding like the parties parachute candidates into our’s? ;-) Fair is fair I say!

#77 60ish on 06.04.09 at 9:38 am

Good morning, Mr. Turner,

You were an important MP during the last term; if for no other reason, for your lesson in showing how sitting politicians ought to communicate with their constituents. Also for bucking our political system that essentially ‘knackers’ back-benchers. Even though I’m not a citizen of Halton, I contributed to your re-election campaign.

Having said that, you would have to be out of your mind to run again. I suspect you’d be looking at a working longer hours for less pay, and again make yourself a target of abuse and slander of biblical proportions. Do you really need/want that?

However, you’ve asked for advice. Run again. Canada needs politicians who are not afraid to say what’s on their minds. And it would be pretty cool to smile at Mr. Harper, across the floor. :)

#78 905er & Spouse on 06.04.09 at 9:39 am

You know better than most what it is like there. If you feel it is worth the effort to get there and stay there than you should do it.

I still think that being a politician is one of the most important jobs in the country.

If the stress is worth it then you should do it for sure. If the daily emotional toll is not worth it then don’t.

I love seeing good politicians in parliment. I consider you one of them. I would love to see you there but I don’t want you to kill yourself to do it again.

You seem really happy right now.

Make sure you REALLY want it.

#79 smw on 06.04.09 at 9:42 am

#25 Republic

I wouldn’t care who leaves what paper in any TV station.

These documents don’t just get labeled for fun. There is a reason this information is to be handled in a sensitive and responsible way.

Classified “Secret”, information that can cause SERIOUS injury to the national interest.

I can assume that the aid didn’t properly seal and label the documents for travel outside of designated area, to the next designated area. CTV is not a designated area.

Regardless its a serious matter, they just don’t mark documents with classifications to keep people busy.

I did get a kick out of Raitt’s seemingly one answer to any question on the affair yesterday in question period, “I offered my resignation, the PM declined, my aid offered her resignation, and I excepted”. Almost seemed like that was all she was allowed to say

(Her handler manages his people better then she handles her own no?)

She even played the “woman” card in response to Mulcair. It was a very desperate moment for the honorable member from Halton(Garth, I know you’d never play the women card).

But for David McGuinty in question period to blame Raitt for Chalk River, digusting.

“If she can’t manage her briefing books, which are confidential,” McGuinty said, “is anyone surprised that we have a medical isotope crisis?”

Is their not a McGuinty in politics with a shred of integrity?

And for those worrying about that poor aid, she’s just locked herself into a “job” for life taking one for the “CPC” team like that.

Guareented she won’t ever again be working in an area where clearance higher then “enhanced” is required…

This isn’t about right or left, liberals or tories, this is about Canada and Canadians. If it was the other side of the bench I’d already be watching CPC attack adds on how irresponsible the oppossing party is.

Note to parliment, once your done pointing fingers at the mistakes that were made, get your ass in gear and get a plan in place to get the country out of this hole.

And I hope Raitt can choose a aid that takes the sensitivy of the post a little more seriously. And maybe some extra sensitive material handling schooling…

#80 robotmonkeygirl on 06.04.09 at 9:44 am

I think you need a Facebook page.

#81 Tom from Mississauga on 06.04.09 at 9:52 am

Save us from ourselves!!!

#82 Dodged-a Bullit-in Alberta on 06.04.09 at 9:54 am

Greetings: I believe that the mess in Ottawa and the lack of honesty and integrity within all three political parties is unrepairable from within the House of Commons at present. If you were to run again, Sara Palin could be put up against you, and the “sheeple” would elect her. I think it is time for another grassroots party here in Canada, aimed at the young, the internet savy, and those who care for more than filling their pockets, and milking the system. This blog, and a much wider public profile through the internet and some nation wide door to door exposure is the way to go. I personally would be willing to ” hit the bricks” on your behalf. Canada has been lacking true leadership for so long, we have no idea how badly we have been screwed. Whether you love or hate American politics, one has to admit, they sure have a way to engage their people in government process.

#83 Jason on 06.04.09 at 9:59 am

More than ever, we need a guy like you in the house!

I haven’t read sheeple, but if you could get in after writing that, then you know the people are behind you 100%.

#84 Dean on 06.04.09 at 10:00 am

If you’re interested in making a difference, stay out of politics.

On thing that occurred to me when reading your suggestions as to this financial crisis. How much worse off would Canada be if the government had done nothing? I’m not suggesting that would have been a good plan, but is there a case to be made that we’d be in roughly the same place as we are now?

#85 Reg on 06.04.09 at 10:01 am

I think you’d just be setting yourself up for more abuse should you run again. It is clear than no leader wants a person who shows the traits you do. Honesty, openness, candor, etc. Until there is a fundamental shift in how our government works, you’d be pissing against the wind.

It is my opinion that you can do more good here, helping those who wish to be helped. The majority of Canadians have their heads buried in the sand. So they deserve what they get.

Now, should you find a leader who is willing to give you free reign, then I’d say go for it. If not, you do more good with this blog.

#86 Jim on 06.04.09 at 10:03 am

Developers Sue Greedy Speculators for Walking Away from Pre-Sale Condo Deals

Greed and stupidity…

#87 Joe Tilley on 06.04.09 at 10:06 am

Hey Garth,

Reading your Sheeple book now. It’s good but I do find it jumps around a lot. Not something I can ready while on my 3rd beer. Also,.. it doesn’t hold up well to my sauna. I’m almost through it, but it’s already in about 8 pieces!

As for you running again, I would love to see you back in parliment, but it would only make sense if the Liberal leader would endorse you with your blog. If for some reason Iggy could not support a blogging MP while leading a minority government, then I’d worry about the type of leader Iggy would be and how your working relationship would go.

Keep fighting the good fight! I don’t support everything you say, but I certianly support how you work involve Canadians and wish others would follow suit.


#88 Herb on 06.04.09 at 10:09 am

Garth, a key factor that only you can assess: your influence on other MPs.

If you won’t be able to move them to action, you might as well snipe from the outside – and raise other snipers to bring down fire on Parliament Hill.

(No, CPC trolls, I don’t mean rifle fire, but the aimed political shots that hurt.)

#89 Mike in Etown on 06.04.09 at 10:13 am


I would love to know that someone like you is working for the betterment of the country in Parliament but I wonder what effect one could have working from Ottawa?

Anytime I think of running for office I turn on Question Period and all thoughts of getting involved are erased.

#90 rory on 06.04.09 at 10:20 am

Gawd, I knew there was going to be many postings to wade through …

Here is the plan …
1- If you run as a C or a L your lost in the maze…NDP is ‘nowheresville’.
2 – You need a party to start fresh with as leader or huge ‘influencer’.
3 – Starting from scratch is too big of a task.
4 – Therefore you need to hijack the Green party and mold it to your ends and theirs.
*** Biggest obstacle – you may need to lose the boots and the bike.

Whadda think? Actually, I am dead serious.

#91 PTDBD on 06.04.09 at 10:21 am

Naaaaahhhh Garth. Resist and hold out until amalgamation. Running now is futile.

Hold out for that USMeCan Governor’s seat.

#92 D from London, ON on 06.04.09 at 10:22 am

I agree with the posters (like #64 Sarah, for example) who say run, but get yourself a group of like-minded people to either run on the same principles in other ridings, or at least provide some sort of multi-dimensional support for you and your ideas in Halton, in other winnable ridings, and most importantly in the media. And I don’t mean yes-men and women or “minions” or mouthpieces – I mean partners.

Crises are times of opportunity. Strike now when people will be open to new ideas. But don’t strike alone as you will easily be defeated as a nutty “lone gunman”. I am sure you can see that coming better than most.

Good luck and godspeed.

#93 Kurt on 06.04.09 at 10:29 am

Garth, I think your greatest contributions are to be made in changing the system, not in playing the game within it. If you can do that most effectively from a seat in the house, either as an independent or as a member of a like-minded party, by all means return. I’d vote for a party (rather than a leader or my representative) if it merely gave you a role in changing the system, never mind a significant cabinet post or the leadership. Good luck, and mind your family first. If you keep blogging, I’ll keep reading and buying your books.

#94 The Coming Depression on 06.04.09 at 10:30 am

Here’s my take: Unless you study “fiat money”, get our stolen Gold and Silver back, forget policies of Canada but understand the destructive policies of the US and do the opposite, build our nation as “commodity based”,explain to Canadians that we should be investing in ourselves..listen to Ron Paul and Peter Schiff..if not, forget it you’ll be like the rest.

#95 rory on 06.04.09 at 10:31 am

Here is a good, ironic funny …

#96 K-W Realtor on 06.04.09 at 10:35 am

If I thought you could effect change, I’d say run for office. Sadly, I don’t so save yourself the abuse and continue to hold the government’s feet to the fire from the outside.

#97 Flip on 06.04.09 at 10:42 am

The problem is: we don’t need one Garth in Ottawa… we need 160 of them.

Bottom line is: where do you think you can make the most “good” (this is assuming doing “good” is what turns your crank at this specific time and place in your life – and if you have the willingness, energy and support to do so)

Maybe just run as a publicity stunt to carry your message and get “traction”?

#98 Kate on 06.04.09 at 10:52 am

If you run, I’ll kick my ass and vote for liberals

#99 Fred on 06.04.09 at 10:52 am

I think you should run again. Back in the day your GarthTV was progressive, and your commitment to your constituents was clearly evident. Times have changed since your streaming media daily updates with our neighbour to The South utilizing youtube broadly within their political system. Whereas in the past some may have been dismissive of your vocal nature, your multiple Bestsellers, speaking engagements nationally, and success of this blog, clearly demonstrates that a significant amount of us voters place value in your voice.

#100 905er & Spouse on 06.04.09 at 11:06 am

Go for it! Just watch the blogging…
And don’t forget about us. ;)

#101 Tom Jeffries on 06.04.09 at 11:36 am

Showing my distinct bias – after intervewing Mr. Turner a number of times, I am absolutely convinced – “GARTH GOTTA RUN”.
Bad grammar – but deep sentimemt.

Canada either gets some Federal Politicians who give two hoots about us struggling taxpayers and gives us some sane, rather thought process – or we are going to head deeper into the clamdip.

RUN, Garth, RUN.

Garth TV – Garth Internet radio…….

#102 hobbygirl on 06.04.09 at 11:44 am

Go for it Garth. I wish I lived in your riding as I don’t have any contenders in my riding that care for us as opposed to themselves.

My father fought in WW2 in part for our right to vote, but I take no shame in sitting this out as it is the self righteous and self serving nature of politicians today that desecrates what our vets fought for.

If you need any admin support, let me know Garth.

#103 hobbygirl on 06.04.09 at 11:48 am

Oh, forgot to mention Garth, do what makes YOU happy.

I’d like to see you run, but politics eats good guys like you for breakfast. We’d all like to see you live a happy life first and foremost and you can still make an impact with what you do now. A dead Garth is good to no one and a loss to society.

#104 hobbygirl on 06.04.09 at 11:56 am

…or start your own people’s party, you have enough exposure to do it. (I’d hire a PR guy to come up with a more contempory name though)

#105 HJD on 06.04.09 at 12:02 pm

Garth, Whether functioning within or outside the political system, you appear to have little or no impact on our politicians and political parties – no one in Ottawa seems to pay attention to, accept or act upon your views. Have any of your suggestions made it into the current federal or provincial political dialogue? If not, too bad. I like your stuff and spirit.

#106 Linda Pearson on 06.04.09 at 12:07 pm

Hi Garth

How difficult would it be to get your own political commentary television program, sort of a Steve Pakin/Larry King combination, that would air in prime time around 8:00pm every weekday evening? Esther could be producer and her roster of guests could be newsmakers of the day, mostly Canadian I hope, but others as well. The first third of the show should be your chance to editorialize about issues of the day – always including politics – sort of a verbal blog. I envisage the remainder of the half hour being part debate, part response to the previous night’s show, whatever makes good television (but not “reality” type tv PLEASE). Controversial but not confrontational, respectful but not obsequious – you get the picture.

I have no experience of producing a television program but I imagine it would be hard to put on a daily show; but surely not much more difficult than working as faithfully on the floor of the House like you did every day.

And you could keep the boots.

PS What was Dorothy’s response to Munch’s suggestion about the extra wives? Enquiring minds want to know. ;>)

#107 hobbygirl on 06.04.09 at 12:07 pm

Isn’t Don Newman retiring? You’d be great at that.

#108 Chris L. on 06.04.09 at 12:08 pm

Go. back. and. do. your. best. I’ll move to wherever you run so I can vote for you. What party will you run for? As much as I despise what the Cons are doing, I don’t like Liberal politics either. Can you run as a real conservative?

#109 BC Guy on 06.04.09 at 12:12 pm

Your efforts to communicate with your constituents via your blogs and videos were admirable.

Unfortunately, you found yourself muzzled by the party because you were providing your best view of the issues of the day.

If you can find a party that will allow you the freedom to voice your opinion to your constituents…run.

#110 vtj on 06.04.09 at 12:16 pm


After a month away, I thought I’d check in on your site after hearing about Raitt. Just as I thought, she figured prominently on your post today. No offense but are you getting predictable? Are you perhaps getting a bit bored of this forum and of preparing for the end of the world as we know it? No offense, seriously, just asking an honest question.

As to whether you should return to Ottawa, do you really need to ask? I can’t help but think that if you are asking it’s because deep down you do want to go back. Besides, I’m sure this forum has become a tad repetitive and you know it. You can stick around a while until the stuff finally hits the fan and you canat that point gleefully yell out that you were right, but talk about a bittersweet “victory”. Or, you can potentially contribute to making things better for our children down the road. You can do a lot more to help people, if you are truly motivated to do so, via a position in government than via this *tiny* forum, in my humble opinion. You choose.


#111 Rhino on 06.04.09 at 12:20 pm


Go Green

Option Liberal

We need innovative ideas like your political blog and responsibility to the people. Someone has to champion that.

Thanks for all your efforts

#112 Garthlover on 06.04.09 at 12:21 pm

Instead of asking us, the sheeple, you should consult with the only person whose life your decision affects, (other than you of course).

But I bet Dorothy will agree with me that old brooms know all the corners, but new brooms sweep cleaner.

You’ve done your bit for Canada. Now sit back and watch the other politicians make asses of themselves. You earned your rocking chair. Use it!

#113 Grace on 06.04.09 at 12:45 pm

I hope you will run again Garth. I wish I can vote for you, but unfortunately I don’t live in your riding.

However, I promise I will do the second best thing for you if you decided to run again: I will donate to your campaign. I will even donate to the party you are flying your banner under (as long as it is not Conservative – anything but Conservative please). The ineptitude of the present Conservative government is making me sick.

Thanks for all your hard work,

#114 Benita Dechert on 06.04.09 at 12:56 pm

Don’t return to politics… just yet. First continue to educate, inspire and excite the Canadian public politically. You have been doing this already with your blog and books. You need more people on board before you head back to parliament. I feel politics is in your blood…return when you won’t be alone.

#115 Increasing that 1% on 06.04.09 at 12:57 pm

You’re a good leader, Garth, and that’s what is needed in a good politician, along with the ability to make those hard decisions, and have a thick skin (which you have been having to develop). You’d have to do it your own way as much as possible, giving you the ability to make changes as well as interpret things.

#116 barb the proof reader on 06.04.09 at 1:03 pm

Garth, you have such interesting Commenters — all the above is a great read, all the comments refreshing and insightful.

So far….

– the Commentariats only took a breather from 3:30 to 5:30 AM …. with over a 100 so early. I think you’re onto something.

– favour tips toward you running for office but with some stipulations:

– kick some ass in your existing party or start your own
– buy a tv station [#29 Fritz]
– secure a few like-minded politicians who will stick together [#37 Leonard]

[already done by Harper]

The Opinions to ‘not run’ have only stated “self-preservation” as a reason, (that’s not good enough) as well as the ‘naive’ reason that you might stop blogging or get muzzled (I guess they don’t know ;)

If ‘you’ are ‘who’ people think you are, then:
– run for office and keep the blog and “be” the refreshing voice/spokesperson/meeting place for Canadians, even beyond your constituency (hey, what the heck, you already are)

Quoting you:

“.. the question is not about me and politics, but about me and you. Am I more helpful interpreting things, or trying to change them? Do I belong in Ottawa again, despite my bumpy ride there last time, or is that the last place for a guy like me?

There’s a huge hole in Ottawa. There’s also a huge hole in every major city, every small town and every province and area of Canada. You are the cheerleader for Digital Democracy. The leading edge was rough. But it’s future has arrived. Change must happen, and it is.

But we already have plenty of backseat drivers and armchair politicians. The key to a revolution are the leaders and having good people to believe in, like you.

But only those in the driver’s seat and their navigators can get Canadians where we need to go.

If you run and win, you’ll be more in the driver’s seat, as well as a navigator (with a megaphone in the driver’s ear).

#117 The party's over on 06.04.09 at 1:16 pm

We need a fundamental change in government to get away from the party system. Otherwise, Garth, you’ll end up silenced in the back row or, even worse, another sheep in the flock of the house towing the party line.

Make this change happen and you have my support.

Let the revolution begin!!!

#118 barb the proof reader on 06.04.09 at 1:17 pm

#89 rory,

Garth could probably easily hi-jack the greens because, as I recall, the old notes on Liz were that she wanted to retire and become a minister some day. But with the clean-up the libs have gone through, the attraction to the new greens might be lessened by the attraction to the new libs. Tough call. Big gamble.

#119 Rasputin on 06.04.09 at 1:21 pm

Hey Garth. Since you asked…I think you will help more people doing what you are doing. By going back into politics you run the risk of being marginalized. Your blog reaches many people and while most of the readers here are of the intelligent group that gets it, chances are you educate a few every day. That’s power! Of course it all comes down to family and other personal things but you are appreciated here. I don’t agree with everything you have ever said but your opinions need to be heard.
Politics in Canada is in an awkward stage. We have a Conservative minority but the Liberals are calling the economic shots. I think if it goes seriously off the rails the Libs will be blamed for it a lot more than they realize. They tried to bring down the government because they didn’t “stimulate” enough. Now they are talking about a non confidence vote because the deficit is too big. So which is it? All I’m saying is that there is going to be plenty of blame spread around when this is over and it might be better to avoid the *&^% storm. Then show up later as a voice of reason.
Good luck with whatever you choose.

#120 conan on 06.04.09 at 1:24 pm

Garth if you have a spot open for you with the Libs, then I would jump back in to the game.

Would you be running against butter fingers err Riatt?

#121 Comrade Okie on 06.04.09 at 1:34 pm

You asked;

Otherwise I wouldn’t offer an opinion.

Your recent direction in your blogs indicated your desire to return to the political forum. All of those paying attention, including Micheal Ignatieff supporters knew that given the effects of current economics, political opportunity would arise.

I note your silence on the issue of Gaza.

Actually Garth, I have noticed your reluctance to speak to many significant political issues in recent months, which leads me to conclude that you were posturing for a return under the Ignatieff leadership. A leadership that isn’t really. One that doesn’t have the courage to stand up and be human, but one that is first and foremost the political animal. That which you criticize in the Harper government.

You likely don’t remember, but I have never voted Conservative in my life, and unlike you, I always sensed what Mulroney was about. But hey, I was just a poor boy born with a hole in the seat of his pants.

Opportunism abounds, always has. As in the case of the current governments position as to Canada’s record of fiscal responsibility over the many years past. I guess that means that the Conservatives played an integral part in that while in opposition, and while scheming to bring down the Martin government.

Power is everything isn’t it old Cock?

How do we measure our fiscal responsibility? Why, simply by virtue of the fact that we aren’t in as horrendous a mess visa a vie debt ratio’s and such as are the other western leverage hounds.


At the end of the day, we still have all those natural resources to plunder.

When, I ask, do we entertain the thought of growing up?

As a wonderfully beautiful Russian Lady once asked me;

“What do you want to be when you grow up?”

As to whether you would be a better representative than Lisa Rait, I believe you would be and if I lived in your constituency, I would vote for Garth Turner, whether you ran as an Independent or for the Liberal Party otherwise known to me as the other Great Satan.

Your always,

Comrade Okie

#122 Bill-Muskoka (NAM` on 06.04.09 at 1:37 pm


The Green Party is an open option for you. Now that Frank de Jong has/is leaving as party leader they may have a chance in Ontario. We all know the other three have blown their chances. It is all written on their Permanent Record (They should have listened to the teacher, eh?) Otherwise, go INDEPENDENT! Whatever you and your wonderful wife decide you will have the support of thousands of people.

#123 TakingResponsibility on 06.04.09 at 1:40 pm


Do it! whoot!

Interpreting, Explaining, Listening to Everyone – Hey, an ideal MP. If I lived in your riding and you won, I would be assured that you would be a representative of Everyone in the riding irregardless of party…

You Go, Garth!

#124 CM on 06.04.09 at 1:47 pm

I was thinking about that very thing when I saw the parachute candidate for Halton on the news last night. (It’s a bird…it’s a plane…no, it’s the person who couldn’t run the Toronto Port Authority at a profit. P***-ups and breweries immediately come to mind.)

Maybe I’m missing something here, but is leaving sensitive papers over at your girlfriend’s house (whatever her previous connections) more dangerous, security-wise, than leaving them in a television station where hundreds of people work? And what about not even knowing they were gone? Maybe the young woman who was thrown under the bus (metaphorically speaking) has had her eyes opened to the true nature of the Re-Foooorrrrrmmm party and will direct her energies elsewhere.

As for Garth going back into politics, I can only say that the last election was a BLAST – at least from my point of view. Even though our gerrymandered electoral district didn’t have a hope of electing anyone but a ReformaTory, at least I felt that I had a (tiny) voice in the process of trying to get someone with a conscience and some smarts into office somewhere else.

If you can stand going through the whole process again, go for it. If you can’t (Mrs. Garth and Bandit Garth would probably cheer), then throw you experience and expertise behind someone with some vision.

I think you’ve already gone above and beyond the call of duty, but if you want to go abov-er and beyond-er, I’m with you.

Going off on a tangent a bit here, but the CBC was defending its stand on not airing the juvenile attack ads the HarpoCons have been saturating the airwaves with. It says that it doesn’t air political ads unless the writ has been dropped and an election is underway.

An unnamed HarpoCon spokesman (guesses, anyone?) wondered why the CBC is refusing the revenue from their overflowing coffers when it was undergoing a cash crunch – thanks to the very same HarpoCons.

So – they yank your funding then offer to pay you to run Con ads. Hmmmm…subtle.

Wonder if anyone in Command Central over at the CPC knows how to spell “ethics”?

I didn’t think so.

#125 Two-thirds on 06.04.09 at 1:49 pm

I suggest you leave politics behind and influence the world via the market, the web, and grassroot groups such as the crowd in this site.

In a “free market” economy, solutions that stick are adopted by industries and users because of their own merits and not because of a gov’tal decree.

Politicians have no credibility in our eyes anymore, corporations are seen as evil by many, but people still trust independent, third-parties such as NGO’s and non-for profits. You may want to look into that.

For you to be trusted, respected, and admired – and getting your point across, you need to be free of ties. The new generations are attracted to the web and to independent entities (music, arts, clothing, etc.) Your best bet to make inroads with them is to remain unattached from government.

You could always borrow another “failed” politician’s model and go on to win a Nobel Prize.

You now have to define your cause.

Good luck!

#126 Cecile on 06.04.09 at 1:51 pm


The Harper Conservatives have set some unsettling precedents while in government- centralization of power in PMO, lack of transparency, disregard for constitutional principles. Should the liberals get back into power, I would hate to see these practices continued and become commonplace. Please run again, because i’m sure you will try any keep any government of the day on their toes

#127 ralph on 06.04.09 at 1:52 pm

Are you a sucker for punishment, Garth? Really, the question you should ask yourself is where I can be more effective? I think it means running for one of the major parties. And you know how that went. You could run as an independent but people are not ready for that, yet.

The sheeple in this country want feel good politicians. I feel you would be better at being the lone voice crying in the wilderness. However, you would have my vote for Prime Minister Garth Turner.

#128 Geo on 06.04.09 at 1:53 pm

Enough already,if you really want to help your constituents forget Ottawa and go and help McGuity and the provincial Libs.
If you think you have the answers,become a MPP and give your advice to the politics of Ontario.
ignatieff and Ottawa don’t want you or need you.
Make your mission Ontario.

#129 nonplused on 06.04.09 at 1:56 pm

I’m not in your riding but speaking for myself I wouldn’t run for politics. It’s all character assassinations and conflict, none of the elected members really know what the result of their meddling in the laws and economy will actually do but they meddle anyway, and if you accidentally get caught leaving a pub at 11:00 PM it’s headline news. You can have it!

Besides, this ship is sunk. It cannot be refloated by more government meddling no matter how well intended the meddling may be. The current economic & legal system is going slowly collapse and be replaced by something much simpler and designed for the entire country (or those parts of it that stay in) rather than designed by 1000 special interest groups.

#130 wjp on 06.04.09 at 2:02 pm

HJD 104….
Where do you think the Senior Income Splitting idea came from?

#131 Chris S. on 06.04.09 at 2:04 pm

When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.

Go for it, Garth.

#132 Eli Xenos on 06.04.09 at 2:05 pm

As an old reporter, you know better than anyone that toady journalism is a hole in the heart of Canadian democracy. Please run. Please work on legislation to encourage olde tyme news reporting.

PS I’ve been reading Sheeple. I’m gobsmacked by how rude, nasty and unCanadian Harper is. Weird… he’s not been away for 50 fifty years and he’s uglier than an American could be.

#133 Roial1 on 06.04.09 at 2:20 pm

Garth, If you want to win a “NEW” seat for the liberal Party, come out here to Vancouver Island North and you can wipe the NDP AND the “neo” con party out!
We are Very aware of you out here and I can assure you of a huge swell of support. We have not had a competent (or honest) MP since the days of Tommy Douglas.


#134 Lance on 06.04.09 at 2:37 pm


Write another book. Keep blogging.

The political majority want to feed pablum to the masses and the majority of the masses want to be fed pablum. There’s not much you can do to change that.

#135 Realtor on 06.04.09 at 2:53 pm


if you were in my riding you would have my vote. I don’t think it would even matter to me what party you represented. Sometimes the candidate trumps the political party.

#136 The Gonz on 06.04.09 at 3:01 pm

Garth, you are a terrible politician: you are well informed , you have a balanced view and you think long term. Even worse, you tell the truth.

Who said people want any of this?

People want to hear how easy things will be and how self-entitled we all should feel. But you don’t try to deceive anyone and that’s why people don’t like you.

People will not vote for you. Our loss.

Good luck with your decision.

#137 Greg W., Oakville on 06.04.09 at 3:23 pm

Hi Garth, FYI, Macleans Magazine June 15th 2009. I just got it in the mail.

On Front Cover, top left corner, (with a face picture of him smiling)

“DEAR MR. HARPER: This is no way to run a recession”

#138 donna on 06.04.09 at 3:30 pm

Run. Of course. Run.

#139 Ken on 06.04.09 at 3:32 pm


#140 hollinm on 06.04.09 at 3:33 pm

Forget it Garth. You had your kick at the cat with two parties and failed miserably. You don’t want to play by the rules so neither of the two main parties are interested in you. You got beat good last time and Raitt has turned into a quality representative for Halton with potential to move up. You have no potential my friend. You are only a grandstander. There is enough in Parliament already. Goodbye and good luck in your next career. Stay away from politics.

I’m glad the current MP for Halton is making you happy in Saskatchewan. — Garth

#141 Nostradamus jr. on 06.04.09 at 3:35 pm

#127 GEO

…You and I are the only ones with insight.

Garth can make a most important impact in Ontario Provincial Politics.

…Certainly so considering Canada will be breaking up soon enough.

Good post GEO

#142 David M on 06.04.09 at 3:38 pm

If you were in my riding I would certianly vote for you. The question I have is… Would there be a nomination process in the Halton riding for the Liberal candiate or, would you run as an independant? Has the Liberal Party made any indication they would back your effort?

#143 Sail1 on 06.04.09 at 3:43 pm

Run again Garth, this time don’t be such a hot head, play the game and do some good when you can. Small steps are better than no steps. As good as the blog is I believe you can achieve more change on the inside. Let’s just hope the people in your riding want you back. This is my opinion do with it what you will.

#144 CM on 06.04.09 at 3:58 pm

One more thing…the fire sale that the Feds had with “surplus to requirements” silver pieces from Rideau Hall has hit a bit of a snag.

Some of the stuff wasn’t theirs to sell. It was on loan from Buckingham Palace.


I wonder if there are any free dungeons available at the Tower of London. Then a quick appointment with the chopper and heads on pikes for all to see, as an example for those who sell what doesn’t belong to them.

#145 ski goddess on 06.04.09 at 4:12 pm

I think you should get into movies, like a Canadian Michael Moore.

You would reach & inform more Canadians, many of whom are currently totally in the dark with what is happening in Canada.

#146 David on 06.04.09 at 4:16 pm

Have you considered moving to Mexico?

#147 Dan in Victoria on 06.04.09 at 4:25 pm

Thought I heard a rumbling calling to my name.Theres something happening here,what it is ain’t exactly clear.Paranoia strikes deep.You better stop the things you do.You step out of line,the man comes and takes you away.I can’t stand it cause you put me down.Let the people know my wisdom.I ain’t lying no I ain’t lying.Whoa, thought it was a nightmare.It starts when your’re afraid.Into your life it will creep.Five year plans and new deals wrapped in golden chains.But you better not complain boy,you get in trouble with the man.How much should we give,more,more, more.I think its time we stop.Everybody look at whats going down……. Sung 40 plus years ago,we need change Garth.Run.P.S.don’t show up to the gun fight with only a laptop.Know what I mean?

#148 Dave on 06.04.09 at 4:30 pm

Garth, the worst deflation in our lifetime hasn’t collapsed the price of gold. I think back and laugh at how you’ve completely put your neck out saying that gold is doomed…lol. Actually, the funnier part is all your sheep that embrace and follow that opinion.

Dale Carnegie in ‘How To Win Friends & Influence People’ said that it doesn’t matter how right you are in an argument it is senseless to argue. Your “opponent” like any other individual, has the need to feel important and will defend their position and refute your opinion under any circumstances. Sound familiar?

I expect to read about how gold is pointless, crashing, unedible, and purposeless on your columns in the next few days.


May you need many fillings. — Garth

#149 Dan in Victoria on 06.04.09 at 4:33 pm

P.S. wanted to say more but not to well today got to go to the hospital tommrow for some warranty work on the old body.

#150 Terry on 06.04.09 at 4:40 pm


In writing your books & in maintaining your blogs, Have you ever really left the public service?

My take … You have continued to grow in your service to Canadians, kept your integrity and have even managed to eek out a small economic niche, in providing honest service to the people that you began to serve so many years ago.

Keep true to yourself and the best to you from whatever platform you choose to keep fighting.

#151 barb the proof reader on 06.04.09 at 4:49 pm


My third penny goes toward reinforcing one thing…. life is a long, drawn out battle, always was…. there are 2 positions in the battle:

1) live the truth and fight for the truth, fairly and by the rules, even if it’s difficult.
2) the bottom, just like a math equation, on the other side of the line / the dividers….the political extreme ideologues. If we don’t fight them, those dividers and manipulators win. And just look how that turned out.

Consider this:

If you step back in the arena, you are doing what voters long for, a real voice.

If you stay on the sidelines….

Hey, wait a minute….

There’s nothing stopping you from also still writing books, advising, blogging and doing every other suggestion people made in the above comments….hmmm

Aren’t you asking a trick question? Geez, you’re good at that.

#152 . . . fried eggs and spam . . . on 06.04.09 at 5:03 pm

#37 Leonard 6:31 am — “Let’s all create a new party together!” along with #50 Steve outside Canada at 8:04 am — “Start your own party, find partners with the same vision as you.”

I agree with David Bakody — “the pen is mightier than the sword” — but with or without Garth, a new party, clear vision, new simplified and structured platform would work wonders with those who are sick and tired of being sick and tired of voting / not being bothered to vote for the present lot of dinkheads.

Let the other zombieborg parties squawk all they want, but a much more centrist based party would capture the imagination of most Cdns.
#21 LB on 06.04.09 at 1:35 am — “. . . There is a seismic shift happening in democracy as we’ve known it as we circumvent government and other institutions, facilitated by the immediacy of and universal access to the internet. Change initiated by individuals via this medium, and through referendum, is where we are all heading. . . .”

Good post. This is why the elite want to control the content of the ‘net, which is yet another reason why all this boondoggle fiscal stuff is happening.
Note the words “new Wall Street pandemic” here. The following is an out-take of another article. —

“The U.S. Treasury has finally approved a new gold-backed ‘dollar.’ This new legal tender will spend just like regular paper dollars. You can use it to buy wine, shoes, computers, even houses.

‘But for those who get in now, the new money could automatically double your savings in just 6-9 months. That’s because unlike regular paper dollars, this currency rises in value whenever gold prices rise. And according to experts such as Euro Pacific Capital President Peter Schiff, gold is on the verge of a 100-500% rocket ride.’

Is this ‘new introduction’ of a gold-backed system is because the US Fed is broke, and there must be smething to back it up with?
I kinda figured out that food prices were increasing, but not this much! —
Quite possible these two links are playing off one another. — /\

#153 Maureen Haslehurst on 06.04.09 at 5:03 pm

My father told me once that people become politicians because they are lousy at anything else they do. So Garth, you do not fit the model.
Having said that your comments are always refreshing and devoid of spin and if you were running in my riding you would get my vote.
Just a comment about the Tory Attack ads. I emailed CTV and advised them I had blocked all their channels and their affiliates n my satellite and they would remain so until I received an email from them saying the Tory ads were no longer being broadcast
Another comment with respect to their effectiveness. I had a young co-worker ask me last night who this Michael Ignatieff was and why would we vote for him if he had been out of the country for 34 years. Not terribly concerned, at 24 he advised he had never voted.

#154 Vlad on 06.04.09 at 5:20 pm

If you have stomach for the ride (which you’ve proved already) – go for it…there is only few good men.

Personally – no. Politics is a place where you’ll lose your piece of mind and above all system appears to be too strong to be defeated by individual no matter how good he/she is.

RE question: What is wrong with buying house these days (if you don’t pay premium of course) and close it for 10 yr on 5.15%?
If you can save/invest 8-10%/yr you can wrap it up at a time for first renewal…

#155 ts harpoon on 06.04.09 at 5:33 pm

Garth!!!!!!- Please get back on that Hill! I would really appreciate if you ran again. You know what is going on and you often speak for me. Thanks. That is all.

#156 Glenn on 06.04.09 at 5:38 pm

Ya know I was pondering our situation this week. So many deranged feminists have wormed their way into power, gotten hold of mens wealth through divorce and alimony, children via the schools and courts, and now the inmates are truly running the asylum.

The vast overwhelming majority of western females have one or more psychological disorders, and those pulling the strings are certifiable lunatics. This harpy is a prime example, and in 15 years its aide will look and act just like it does.

Unless, of course the whole system implodes. Then all the “independent” feminists that “dont need a man” will be left to fend for themselves.

If the only way to save the crew is the sink the ship, so be it. The current crop of “leaders” can not be reasoned with, therefore they will not stop till the iceberg meets the hull.

Bring it on, I say.

#157 Got A Watch on 06.04.09 at 5:39 pm

Garth, you are a credit to this nation. I would be proud to be able to vote for you, but here I will no choice but the CPC incumbent, who has never done a damn thing for this riding, as far as I can see, besides kiss Harper’s backside.

Whatever you decide to do, you have my thanks for all your efforts. Only you can make the right decision. Do what will make YOU happy, not what pleases others.

Running for the Greens is not a bad idea, if you won the riding, you would be defacto National Leader (unless Liz can get elected somewhere, which seems unlikely), and you would get much national media exposure, be able to join the election debates etc. It would have a stature way beyond that of an independent MP, though that might have similar qualities. Sitting as a back-bencher for any Party would be less effective, they get ignored. Iggy seems to have an ego like Harper;s, he might emulate Stevie’s attitude towards you.

Good luck and best wishes, whatever you decide. Keep Blogging from Ottawa, if only just to irk the other politicians. Thanks.

#158 rory on 06.04.09 at 5:43 pm

#152 Maureen Haslehurst …sorry I have to be mean.

Say Censorship! I hope you wait forever for your email.

Freedom to say and write what you wish as long as you do not break the law (and this is tenuous) it a basic right – like it or not.

If you are in the broadcast business, be it TV, newspapers,etc it becomes a very slippery slope as to what you wish not to be aired and by whom.

I could ask them to block gardening ads …hate plants :)…you get the idea.

Do not shoot the messenger, rememeber.

Relish your freedoms …fight back at the Cons and vote Liberal next time …but do not threaten my broadcaster, the messenger, on what I can and can not watch or tell me what I can or can not say or listen to…this is serious crap and the freedom is easily taken away.

BTW …A 24 year old that does not know who MI …amazing the emptiness happening to our kids.

And why we should vote for someone gone for 34 years is an excellent question …the rebuttal ad by MI was pretty weak…tepid in fact …IMO.

#159 Sotiri on 06.04.09 at 6:07 pm

Toronto District School Board is preparing to lay off 150 teachers from secondary schools – this is a direct consequence of the deficit.
The government is seriously undermining our children’s education by giving our money to GM.
What will happen next?????

#160 van man on 06.04.09 at 6:11 pm

John B,

I am impressed with your logic.
Let me see, your average Canadian is a lazy beer swilling hockey fan, and the vast majority of elected officials are bottom feeders. Your solution: The drunk losers need to get out and vote for the corrupt scum bags.

Ahhhhh democracy!

#161 Canadian Army Guy on 06.04.09 at 6:26 pm

“#144 ski goddess wrote:

” I think you should get into movies, like a Canadian Michael Moore.

You would reach & inform more Canadians, many of whom are currently totally in the dark with what is happening in Canada.”


What a fan club! Must be nice for your ego, eh Garth?

P.S. All you need, Garth is a baseball cap!

#162 JO on 06.04.09 at 6:37 pm


Wait until end of 2010 before running.way too early.

New political party needed – maybe you can drum it up…lets see…”Canadian Liberty Party”….or “Canadian Democratic Freedom Party” long as whoever become PM and FM walks the talk and implements stuff that actually tends to work: low and simple taxes with low income tax and focus on consumption, smaller government to help pay for the tax cuts needed to keep this economy going; keep the bof c in check and reduce leverage in banking system gradually to a lower level;reform government intervention mechanisms or better yet eliminate nha;….i am leaning toward not even voting any longer..all these politicians are the same regardless of whatever label they wear..they are all interventionists / socialists..spend ..spend…tax…tax..

nonsense..please run for an election late 2010 onward

#163 kc on 06.04.09 at 6:41 pm

I see the hype is the same in Toronto also… sell a couple over priced places and the world is all fixed now…

All it takes to resuscitate a market is a little confidence. How first-time buyers could save the over-leveraged set

“In a declining market, first-time buyers are key. We need people to buy entry-level homes so that those occupying them can trade up. In March, houses under $400,000 accounted for 73 per cent of sales. That’s up nearly three per cent over March of last year. Christine Cowern, an agent with RE/MAX Hallmark, says she’s busier than she was this time last year, and it’s mainly doing first-time deals. She thinks it’s a great time to be an entry-level buyer, but then, when was the last time you heard an agent say it wasn’t a good time to buy?”

#164 Guardia Civil Tricornio on 06.04.09 at 6:52 pm

No Garth, the Govt of Canada is pipsqueak on the global stage – almost a joke, the Tamils didn’t get.

Why not aim your books & blog wider? Realty-wise your well informed for US inclusion and your green take can go even further afield.

Become an international star.

#165 LS on 06.04.09 at 7:05 pm

Go for it. Although the chances of changing anything are slim, they are certainly more slim if you don’t try. I’d vote for you, if I weren’t a dirty immigrant and couldn’t vote anyway.

But the other more important consideration is your mental well-being. Just 3/4 through Sheeple right now, and I certainly couldn’t stand doing all that work and yet have people be able to veto you on a whim. You know what it’s like, do you want that kind of fight again?

#166 David on 06.04.09 at 7:09 pm

I prefer Bonnie Raitt to Linda Raitt any day. Linda Raitt and her 26 year old executive assistant should do the honourable thing, liked failed Roman generals and fall on their own swords.
Those GM shares us Canadians all bought are way above market cap and I sure hope it wasn’t money well wasted for all the communities of interest that will rise or fall based on the outcome. When I was kid in grade school, I always wanted to own GM shares. Guess my wish came true.

#167 . . . fried eggs and spam . . . on 06.04.09 at 7:24 pm

Two links. I posed a question about the new ‘gold-backed’ US$, that possibly the US Fed was finally admitting it was totally devoid of ideas of anything at all. Now back to Latvia for new developments. — /\

In keeping with the same vein, Jim Rogers’ clip on the coming currency crisis. —

Remember Garth spoke of US$100 oil recently? Well — — Curious, ‘tho: As some of the Wall St. firms and banks were bailed out with taxpayers’ money, how are they able to afford buying this? Hmmm!

Scouts Motto: Be Prepared! —

A quote from on Angela Merkel, who blasted the Fed’s policies today:

“She is correct. The fault with the Federal Reserve system is that the moment it goes into operation more money is owed to the banks than is actually in existence.”
Remember the three ‘mandatory’ A-H1N1 swine flu (nudge nudge wink wink!) shots that US folks may have to take? ‘Owzabout Sarkozy’s France, too? —

Bill C-6, a rebirth of Bills C-51 and 52 clearly benefits . . . ummm . . . “Pharmaceutical giants benefit from the move . . .”. Oh yes!

Monsanto will be mighty ticked off with this! —

#168 Paul B in Ontario on 06.04.09 at 7:34 pm

Go for it, Garth. Unfortunately, I don’t live in Milton – otherwise I would vote for you.

#169 Roial1 on 06.04.09 at 7:37 pm

If anyone is interested in knowing how the Asian world is viewing the US (and Canadian)(and European) economy, go to
It is a “Garth type” eye opener.

#170 john m on 06.04.09 at 7:39 pm

Garth whatever you decide to do i will support you…i did before ..the first time in my life for any politician ,,and your not even in my riding.Id really like to see you leading our country.Hands down you are one of the most intelligent men i have ever came across in my lifetime and most important ..your a man of honor and not a sheeple by any sense of the word.When our country is falling apart you stand above the crowd,your blog is my bible… Whatever your decision…you will have my support for what its worth—your the man !!

#171 Mark McKendry on 06.04.09 at 7:59 pm

“So, the question is not about me and politics, but about me and you. Am I more helpful interpreting things, or trying to change them?”

Change please – Thanks!

#172 TS on 06.04.09 at 8:01 pm

Hi Garth… Canada needs you to run again! You were the main reason why my wife and I made political donations for the first times in our lives.

Canada needs to get rid of the Harper Conservatives as soon as possible while there is still a remote chance that we can save the country….

If you have a chance to choose a riding please make it our’s!

#173 Sean in E-Town on 06.04.09 at 8:04 pm

Also, yes you should run, but you would probably be unhappy running for any party which you could win with. I’d definitely kick in money if you were to run as a Progressive Canadian.

#174 waitingwithanticipation on 06.04.09 at 8:16 pm

ditch the elected fool and reinstate the competant.
i’m not surprised the fools majority elected one of their own to begin with…
go for it mr. turner !!!
time to roll the rock up that hill again !!!
time to continue your pursuit of the myth of sisyphus !!!
there couldn’t be a better time than NOW … !!!

#175 Nostradamus Jr's Analyst on 06.04.09 at 8:25 pm

If you run, don’t run for the Conservatards.

They have no f*****g idea how to run a country.

#176 Joseph on 06.04.09 at 8:34 pm


Don’t do it! It is the latter of your query, namely being “the last place for a guy like me”.

#177 Real Estate Deal or No Deal on 06.04.09 at 8:34 pm


It is a machine that takes altruistic dudes/dudettes and uses them and then spits them out!

Whether we want to agree or not, there is a larger picture that all governments are just a part of …. ever heard of the Bilderberg ‘s … I am sure you have. And why would you want to cowtoe your life energy to them?

You are more valuable being a continual thorn in the flesh in the government’s back side and making refreshing wisdom available to us … the great unwashed.

Face it Garth, you are an independent thinker, an independent business person, a “I am going to buck the system and do it anyway” kind of guy …. you are totally out of your element having a boss and working for some guy like Harper or Iggy.

By the way, I completely agree with your comments regarding platform …. I voted Green last election … as I just couldn’t vote Liberal after Chretien and the corruption … and wasn’t going to vote for Harper.

#178 Basil Fawlty on 06.04.09 at 8:37 pm

An honest man really has no where to go in national politics. It is all tightly controlled spin to support the predominantly corporate viewpoint. If you step outside this narrow box you are generally ignored. Stay within the box and you rise up in the party and get to say things to the media that are effectively bafflegab.
90% of Canadian corporations are foreign owned and they support the political parties and media, and thereby control politics, along with the ongoing annexation of Canada by big business interests. Now that they have a $50B deficit they will use it it to eradicate what is left of Canada’s social infrastructure and shift spending to Canada’s ongoing illegal wars in Haiti, Afghanistan and where ever else they are needed to protect the profits of big business.
Why associate with those people?

#179 RM in Oakville on 06.04.09 at 8:41 pm

Actually in my view the answer depends on the context of the question. A few folks picked up on it as well: if you ran again, would it be as a Liberal, Independent or a Green? If the former, any confidence Iggy would put up with the blog and the two of you play nice? I live in your riding, voted for you, and I think you were a damn good MP. But I think how effective you can be vs writing books, speaking and blogging depends on whether you actually have a position of influence (e.g. Cabinet gig, Chair of the Finance Committee). Otherwise I’m afraid you’d just be more sandpaper in Ottawa.

#180 Eduardo on 06.04.09 at 8:49 pm

Run as a Liberal in Ontario… rename the blog “AutOntario Bailout Liberal Blog”.

Then promise enough handouts to Ontario and win the day! The country can go back to screwing everyone except Ontario and Quebec again… phew… order will soon be restored.

I thought you said this wasn’t a political blog the other day? That’s what you told me.


It’s obvious you are using this blog to posture for another run in politics so stop acting like an impartial reporter when you just released a book dedicated to anti-Conservative spin and you’re willing to throw the government under the bus for all the problems the country has.


The worlds problems werent caused by Canada and no matter how you cut it you can’t argue that the reduction in car sales isn’t the single biggest impact on the economy. Who is responsible for that? Ontario and the Liberals so stop Sh*tting on the Conservatives… they’ve had a minority government for the past 3 years and any party other than them have only been in power for <20 years since the Great Depression.

#181 Eduardo on 06.04.09 at 8:50 pm

other than the Liberals I meant.

#182 you can't win or change until we reach depths of disaster on 06.04.09 at 9:10 pm

You can’t win or change until we reach the depths of disaster we deserve for bad and loose character – you see everywhere in today’s Kanata

#183 Ann on 06.04.09 at 9:22 pm

Hi Garth

I think it would be a good idea to run. You have alot to offer.

#184 Seilfworcehtsa on 06.04.09 at 9:27 pm

You would probably still be an MP if Dion had taken your advice. Instead he greased the skids of defeat with his obnoxious green shift plan…a good idea but a lousy sell. Such is the stuff of a political tyro or self absorbed arrogance and you paid a price such as it is. You have ability, experience, integrity, intelligence and an unbelievable capacity for work. Hop back in the sadle and go for it. You can ask Esther for a second opinion. But then again, aren’t you just chomping at the bit for another run at it?

#185 donqihuahua on 06.04.09 at 9:34 pm

Was wondering when this will come. One a politician – always one. Good luck Garth, go get them. These here, you already got.

#186 Cranky Cyclist on 06.04.09 at 9:46 pm

Going back into politics would only damage your credibility. In my eyes, your much of your charm stems from being kicked out of politics, not from your participation.

What party would you choose? Both major parties exist to sustain the unsustainable at all cost and to avoid any meaningful change. You recall how much you were allowed to accomplish as a Conservative!

As an independent, you would have no power. You might be granted the rare opportunity to chirp at question period. Would CanWest Global or CTV GlobeMedia seek out your opinions?

I say stay where you are and do an end run around the whole corrupt mess. You may be preaching to the converted, but at least they’ll listen …

#187 SJ on 06.04.09 at 9:57 pm

Garth, you are the man! I have missed seeing your grumpy face in parliament :)

We require your assistance once again superman, it’s almost time that you step up and give Canada a chance. A REAL chance.

You better run again. I may not be able to vote for you, but I sure as hell would if I could. So RUN Garth, RUN!

#188 john m on 06.04.09 at 10:15 pm

179 Eduardo on 06.04.09 at 8:49 pm……… doesn’t it bother you?….or are you unaware?…what a pathetic little sheeple you are?…… what you have to offer in reasoning is about as impressive as a fart in a wind storm :-)

#189 Confused and fed up on 06.04.09 at 10:24 pm

It is better you stay out of the politics, as you are one of “a few good men”.

#190 dd on 06.04.09 at 10:57 pm


U tell it like it is. You sure you want back in?

#191 Shawn on 06.04.09 at 11:00 pm

schadenfreude isn’t it great.

imagine seeing the one who defeated you, now on T.V. caught in a such an embarassment, delicious!

#192 Anon on 06.04.09 at 11:06 pm

Go for it, but not with Liberals or Concervatives or NDP or Greens. None of them belong in the government.

#193 john on 06.04.09 at 11:11 pm


You are better suited for writing books and blogging where offer your opinions and filter out those of your choosing. I don’t think you can take pressure or others opinions IMHO.

#194 Dave on 06.04.09 at 11:12 pm

May you need many fillings. — Garth


188 posts and I’m just about the only one that got a response! I feel good!

Garth you seem like a stand-up person. I can’t make that assumption with any other potential politician. With that said, you being in office could only benefit all of us.

Response is unnecessary ;)

#195 mike from oakville on 06.04.09 at 11:25 pm

that jasmine looks hot. lisa raitt, not so much.

#196 Val Mel on 06.04.09 at 11:37 pm

Well Garth….

I believe this is a political blog posing as an economic blog. It has become more apparent as I have continued to read it over the past year.

I will say this though….I have learned an incredible amount about politics and economics…..mostly from you and quite a bit from the “Blog Dogs.” The links have been very helpful – thanks to the “B.D’s” for that.

I think it would be a complete shame and a loss if you did not run. How many politicians do we know that;

• Want to get to “transparency”
• Open themselves up to criticism
• Have an unimaginable work ethic
• Are exceptional communicators
• Care
• Are innovative
• Don’t take abuse from the inane and misdirected

Thank you for providing this forum. Even though you are an O.B. you still have young ideas. Good for You!!

You have my vote. You and people like you are the future of politics. You will be a great leader of our country…..just get to it before you need a walker.

#197 GTA001 on 06.05.09 at 12:33 am


As some of the other blogger’s have stated, I will support you no matter what you decide to do.

If you want my thoughts on your decision to stay out or return to politics, here is my 0.02 cents.

Most people do not understand that you have been trying to warn Canadians about a demographic shift in the population resulting in a real estate crisis since 1999. During that time economist on both sides of the border were concerned about the growing public debt of the US and Canadian governments, huge trade deficits, declining productivity, merger mania, de-industrialization and financing medicare and social security spending.

Unfortunately the majority of the Canadian population were not listening. However, there are thousands of us (who were concerned about the country’s long term economic future)that read your books, watched the Turner Report and on an individual level tried to take control of our finances by getting good advice, learn about financial products and invest in growth assets.

When you released the book “Greater Fool” in 2008 which again tried to warn Canadian’s about the fallout of the US subprime mortgage crisis and its effect on our real estate sector, people started to wake up. The US economic situation at present is so bad it is near catastrophic. Wall Street securitized mortgage to the tune of $530 trillion. The top 4 US banks (JP Morgan, Citybank, Bank of America and Wells Fargo) have issued $180 trillion of morgtage derivatives. This resulted in the failed TARP by Secretary Hank Poulson and the US Treasury Dept. The stock market crashes between Sept 15-Oct 10, 2008 wiped out trillions in wealth, destroying 401k, RRSP and institution pension funds and hedge funds. Now the layoffs from the real estate crisis have affected Wall street and now main street. The US is shedding 600,000 jobs per month while we are losing between 40-80,000 jobs. This is leading to more corporate layoffs, more unemployment, mortgage delinquencies, foreclosures and bankruptcies. You also warned about the cheap money and 40 year mortgages in this country which may result in a made in Canada crisis.

Its kind of funny, when you ran for the Liberal Party under Stephane Dion in the October 2008 Federal Election it should have been a cake walk given what you said in the book. The CPC under PM Stephen Harper use lies innuendos, half truths and false charges to defeat you in the riding. Your successor Ms Lisa Rait who is in trouble for breaching ministerial responsibility is nothing but a Harper sheepie. She is not responsible for the management problems over Chalk River reactor leak. Ms Rait is there to cover up the inept and incompetent decision making of the Conservative government with regard to the management screw ups at AECL, the squandering of $500 million on an unproven and untested reactor design which has to be scrapped and the fact that it had no long term plan to replace the aging reactor.

Right now Canada is at least 12-18 months behind the US economic crisis. We have lost at least 300,000 manufacturing jobs and are headed to at least 1 million unemployed by early 2010. The Conservative government has a $50 billion debt and will add at least $170 billion in the next 5 years as estimated by your friend and economist? The result higher taxes, higher interest, high unemployment for the next 5 years.

Given Ms Rait’s troubles in PMSH Cabinet, you may feel that this situation might lead to an opportunity to run again in Halton. If you run as a Liberal, Mr Ignatieff may try to muzzle you due to your past association with Stephane Dion and his policies such as the Green shift. I personally DO NOT trust him. He is more conservative than PMSH and more concerned with image than substance. A maverick (oops-doing the Sara Palin thing) such as yourself would not be welcome in a Iggy cabinet because you won’t do as your told. It would be better to resign from the party and run as an independent. Remember you wont have any power or influence in Ottawa, but with support of the people through the internet the powers that be may not be able to ignore your issues for too long.

There is another option. What this country needs right now is a business leader/journalist who ran several enterprises and been in government to help Canadians fight the recession and create a new economy.

You can do this by leveraging the power of the internet (Web 2.0)and TV media. First, create a show on how to fight the recession by showing people how to economize, highlight innovative solutions and support local neighborhood businesses . Run seminars on small business, internet business, service business and direct selling. You can do more webnar’s such as the one with Steve Pakin on the TVO show “The Agenda”

Continue holding seminars on how to invest in real estate. It may be possible to get Gerald Celente, Peter Schiff and Harry S Dent Jr and others to come to selected Canadian Cities to talk about the economic trends/crisis and suggest possible solutions. It might be possible to talk to someone in the Learning Annex about holding a large seminar on your books “Greater Fool” and” After the Crash” in cities such as Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg etc.

Promote companies that build wired communities and make the internet accessible to the poor and unemployed.

Promote banks that specialize in low interest or micro-loans to people wanting to start small businesses.

Promote educational institutions that support on line or distance education like MIT’s Open Courseware. Try to encourage these institutions to run affordable courses or programs in business education and entrepreneurship.

Produce documentaries/tv reports on environmental business/real estate development projects such as the one being built in downtown Markham that uses solar, wind and geothermal power. Look for projects that allow homeowners/residents to recycle stormwater or use natural plants to clean wastewater etc. Highlight communities that support organic gardens, share social services such as babysitting and recycle/reuse solid wastes in a beneficial way. Promote companies that are on the cutting edge of environmental technologies.

You should try to contact Ms Nula Beck (an employment consultant) who wrote a book in 1993 suggesting that a new economy is rising in Canada. The four engines of the economy are: medical instruments/pharmacology and biotechnology; media, optical instruments and digital telecommunications; space and satellite technology and lastly engineering and environmental technology. She even suggest that an E-wave is coming where engineering technology will make revolutionary changes in nanotechnology, lighter and stronger materials for manufacturing and electronics and robotics. There could be discoveries in energy science such as the pursuit of controlled nuclear fusion, zero point energy, ion power and electric motor vehicles such as the tesla car. You can run seminars together and show people how to get training and eventually jobs in these industries?

Also look at reporting on business that cater to the aging population and the emergence of retirement estates with full support services.

Garth, the 4 books that you have wrote have likely saved thousands of Canadians from personal financial ruin by helping them avoid buying overpriced real estate assets that will collapse in value in the next 5 years. That is more than any politician has done in the last 15 years.

When you produce television shows, webnars, reports and seminars on the real estate and economic crisis it is giving ordinary Canadians information to HELP THEMSELVES and possibly work with innovative educational, financial and non-profit institutions find long term solutions to the economic problems facing their communities, cities and the country as a whole. Its not as exiting as the political process in Ottawa,but you will be making a real difference in the lives of ordinary people because you are giving them hope and telling them that crisis does not equal chaos and calamity, but an opportunity to build a sustainable and prosperous economy in the long term. Good luck on whatever you decide to do!

#198 Harry S on 06.05.09 at 12:48 am

Surely you wouldn’t join a Liberal party headed up by a leader who was installed like a generalissimo … that would go against everything you stand for, Garth … you know, digital democracy and all …!!!!

I recommend you stay out of this political cycle until Ignatieff is eliminated and the Liberal party gets a good colonic enema to flush out all the old detritus.

#199 kanata squirrel on 06.05.09 at 12:58 am


If you startup the PC party again I’m in. The Libs are same old, same old, the C party are the Reform party – I lost my party when MacKay sold us out.


#200 Liz on 06.05.09 at 1:53 am

You’re rich enough. You’re smart enought. And by golly people like you.

You’re a greater man than I Gunga Din.

Go for it. So few people get the chance to make a real difference. And if anything Mr Turner you’re pretty good at making a difference. And at least singling out the wheat from the chaff.

#201 soozay on 06.05.09 at 2:40 am

Garth – why go backwards? You’ve been there, done that. Your audience can be far larger and more impactful with this blog. Take some time to think about it. In keeping with your often cryptic advice – I think you know what I must mean ;)
Dream bigger why don’t yah

#202 B in NB on 06.05.09 at 7:59 am

This is the topic that took me from being an avid reader of your blog to a poster.

Our political system needs more people like you. I would put an “X” by your name without have to think about it for very long.

Most people might not not want to hear it as it is but all need to hear it as it is.


#203 CalgaryRocks on 06.05.09 at 8:16 am

If you want to make a difference teach your followers how to go out and make useful citizens out of themselves. If I read about another ungrateful, spoiled brat that wants the whole planet to starve so that he can ‘vulture’ off someone else’s misery, I will puke.

#204 Peter on 06.05.09 at 9:02 am

You will notice in the photo that the aide is carrying the documents as one would expect and should be responsible for these documents – is that asking too much.
The bigger question is does journalist have any right to hold documents inadvertently left behind, snoop in them, photocopy them and then publicly release information from them. And what if they are marked secret and the journalist is well aware to whom they belong?
Do journalists have any ethics or morals – did they learn their ways at the knees of their parents.
Is Robert Fife’s actions the norm for all journalists? How sad>

#205 smw on 06.05.09 at 11:21 am

#179 Eduardo

Why not subsidize Toyota, Honda, Hynduai & Kia for being winners, instead of $10B into GM for being a loser?

Betcha Belinda Stronach would be a formidable ally during all this auto “restructuring”.

Now that was a woman with integrity, not willing to join up with the CPC and the Bloc to bring down the elected government.

#206 Wealthy Renter on 06.05.09 at 12:04 pm

Hello Garth,

I have six close family members that voted for you in the last election.

I reckon that most Canadians are in the centre of the political spectrum (slightly left on social issues, and slightly right on economic policy.)

Truly hard-working people like my mom and dad need their MPs to thoughtful, practical, moderate and in touch with reality.

Through your books and blogging, you appear to have all of those qualities in abundance.

Please consider running again.

#207 maria on 06.05.09 at 12:27 pm

Hello Mr Turner … I am a bit late writing to you .
Please, take care of yourself and your family and stay away from politics!
Your health is more important!
All my best wishes!

#208 Bonnie N BC on 06.05.09 at 1:00 pm

Yes, yes and yes. But I am sure you would know my opinion. Although if I could only get you to run in my riding… (wishful thinking).

In the lead up to the election you engaged so many Canadians from across the country. We may not have always agreed but we sure were involved.

Jeepers, maybe we could get those stupid franking privileges changed which kindled my interest in digital democracy.

If you do decide to run – keep your helmet on!

#209 Kelly McMae on 06.05.09 at 1:26 pm

I say go for it Garth. Realistically how much are you really changing by writing books and blogs. You have an audience and for the most part that audience is of an already formed mindset.

You in Ottawa creating public discourse and promoting public policy beneficial to all Canadians is the most effective way to help direct this nation back to sanity.

My only question is which party would you choose?

Regards and all the best.

#210 Citizenman on 06.05.09 at 3:42 pm

People should put their money where their mouth is and make some political donations to Garth’s campaign. Donations of up to 400$ are reimbursed at 75% on your tax return.

#211 Eduardo on 06.05.09 at 5:52 pm

I was being sarcastic.

#212 GG on 06.06.09 at 1:10 am

Garth. If you run and get elected and hang around long enough…guaranteed you grow horns too. Thats the only way to survive in the fnkg jungle because if you don’t they’ll maul the sht out you.

#213 Jeff L on 06.07.09 at 9:11 am

Please run again. I voted for you last time and nothing the current MP has done has changed my opinion of who the better candidate was/is.
On a side note I recently recieved a survey in the mail from Mrs. Raitt, the questions do not allow for a gray area (ie. 5. Do you agree with the governments stimulus package as presented in Budget 2009: yes or no) thank goodness she wants my honest opinion. Finally I can let her know exactly which parts of Budget 2009 I agree with and which are lunacy. Oh wait, I have to like all of it or none of it… But that’s beside the point, do I return my survey to Mrs. Raitt or to one of her staffers? That way if Mrs. Raitt doesn’t like my answers she can just blame her staff.
I miss my accountable M.P.

#214 wellwell on 06.07.09 at 11:37 am


You need to engage in some hard-nosed assessments before you put your neck on the line. First, is Lisa Raitt truly vulnerable? During the Chretien years, your old riding was solidly Liberal, but so was almost every other riding in Ontario. You won as a Conservative, and so did Raitt. A few mishaps regarding documents left in a TV studio and problems at Chalk River might not be enough to turn the tide. Is that constituency too Conservative now? My own assessment is that the federal Liberals would need to be ahead by as much as 10% in Ontario on election day for you to win that riding. (I’m assuming that you would not be running elsewhere – rural constituencies, such as those on Lake Erie, typically do not take kindly to ‘carpetbaggers’.)

Second, you need to decide what it is you want to do if you are given another term in Parliament. The “blog about everything” model, as fascinating as it was, is not sustainable should the Liberals form government. I’m sure you know this in your heart of hearts. A better approach might be to claim as your own a basket of policy questions centred around ‘financial sanity’ for governments, corporations and individuals. Then you can approach your task with integrity, without other MPs fearing that you will personalize, and broadcast, your communications with them.

Finally – and this is the toughest question – you should ask of your potential electors: what’s in it for them if you are re-elected? This distills the problem, taking you beyond any hard feelings you may have for Harper or Raitt.

By the way, I hope you run.

#215 Richard on 06.08.09 at 9:36 am

Well I absolutely agree Lisa Raitt must go. Clearly the medical isotopes issue and the latest loss of file – has made her the Shame of Halton and Canada

#216 Vancouver Guy on 06.08.09 at 9:36 pm

Garth, I very much hope you run. The CPC party must be defeated. Raitt should go. HARPER MUST GO. Once Harper is gone, then it is OK to return to other worthwhile issues such as warning people about overpriced real estate. Harper is the biggest threat to the country right now, and you can do a lot to take him down within the political system. Best regards. Vancouver guy.

#217 Randy H on 06.09.09 at 7:33 pm

Harry S: I recommend you stay out of this political cycle until Ignatieff is eliminated and the Liberal party gets a good colonic enema to flush out all the old detritus.

Sounds like a plan Harry, when you going for it?

#218 Solitario on 06.21.09 at 7:18 pm

despite some disagreements we had in the past (support for our involvement in Afghanistan, support for Dion’s carbon tax…),
you’re the reason I went to vote in the last election
and you’re the only one I could vote for.
BTW, It’s a big deal to be able to vote FOR somebody, as most people go to vote AGAINST somebody.
Please run again.
If you’ll ever decide to have your own party, please send me a membership application.