Yada, yada

Once upon a time I lost my mind and ran to be leader of a federal party. The Progressive Conservative one. Remember it? A little con. A little lib. Fiscally right-wing, socially neutral. Not too hot. Not too cold.

Brian Mulroney walked out of the hall after eight years and left five candidates standing on the stage in front of ten thousand delegates. No way could I win that convention, but what the hell? As a backbench (but charming) MP, I’d spent a few months campaigning for balanced budget legislation, debt reduction, tax reform (a flat one), property rights and other weird stuff, while Kim Campbell romped ahead. She won and became prime minister. I didn’t finish last, which was huge. Plus I got to make a Big Speech. Mulroney called me on my cell right after, lavished praise, and said Mila was going to vote for me. That may have been BS.

Well, politics have changed in recent years with a polarization between left and right. The cons have drifted off into a narrower social agenda while the libs slid radically left. Supported by a Millennial penchant for gender and same-sex equality, indigenous rights, the climate and narrowing the income gap, Liberals are turning into Dippers. Meanwhile thanks in part to Trump, Brexit, populism and globalization, Conservatives have started to openly support angry men opposed to government based on special interests.

 One of them was elected this weekend in Ontario. The provincial election in June will be a classic. The thundering, bombastic, right-wing, family-man, neophyte dude versus the experienced, wily, socially-progressive female premier with a same-sex partner. Behind those obvious differences lies a monstrosity called debt. Ontario owes more than $300 billion – about half as much as the entire country – and continues to borrow. Paying the interest consumes almost $12 billion in tax dollars, and is the fastest-growing component of the budget – even at a time of historically low rates. Just imagine what happens when that changes.

Spending has outpaced revenues for every year the current Liberal government has been in place, and there are no plans to change that. Public debt will rise from $312 billion to year to $336 billion in two years. Last year the government trumpeted a “balanced” budget with no deficit – but at the same time added $6.28 billion to the debt. Meanwhile the cost of education and health care (together adding up to almost $80 billion) soar, yet tens of thousands of people cannot find a family doctor. Bondholders, however, are doing great.

There are federal parallels, of course. After climbing out of a bottomless, credit crisis-inspired deficit hole, the departing Harper Cons left much debt, a small budget surplus and an angry electorate. The incoming Libs promised a temporary and shallow deficit to get the economy working, but after four years in power will have added $100 billion in new debt, having written every budget in red. Since being elected the T2 administration has increased overall spending by 20.1%, or $51 billion.

Sadly, nobody cares. Politicians are elected by people who (a) vote for more, or (b) vote against the last bums. Nobody goes to the polls to reduce spending, eliminate deficits, pay down debt or reduce the size of government. Part of the reason is that no politician ever campaigns on such a pledge. It’s why I sucked so badly at being in public life.

Will any of this change with Trumpian populism? So far the US president has done nothing to reduce the size or cost of government, and six of his cabinet members have been investigated for frittering away public money. But he did reduce taxes – a massive 30% cut in the amount corporations pay and also a general reduction for most Americans. Along with throwing up tariff barriers, defending the NRA, embracing ‘family values’ and dissing immigration, this makes him a classic populist. About what most people expect of Doug Ford. But so far Trump has not proven to be a fiscal conservative, since tax cuts without spending cuts will create the mother of all deficits and a multi-trillion-dollar debt. The outcome of that is simple: more tax.

Despite any of the above, this Ford guy stands a chance of being elected. The Ontario Libs are old and tired. They have baggage. The crazed, lefty Mills may throw more support towards the NDP. A lot of people in the middle are unhappy at having their kids gender-identify in primary school or their province turn into a drug dealer (the Ontario Cannabis Store was unveiled last week). So, given vote-splitting on the left and a soggy middle, the PCs could garner unexpected traction, despite their inability to hold a leadership convention.

The polarization of politics is deepening. Voters are routinely lied to and more likely to act out of anger than inspiration. How else can you explain BC embracing the NDP and Greens? And consider recent elections in France, Germany, Britain or Italy – where nationalism, tribalism and protectionism were major themes among divided and angry populations.

Meanwhile public debt, over-consumption, climate change, the wealth gap and a retirement crisis fester while we diddle over the arcane.

So I guess we get the leaders we deserve. And you didn’t deserve me.

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#1 Dee on 03.11.18 at 5:12 pm

It worries me that all the PC candidates–Ford included–vowed to get rid of the carbon tax while keeping all the spending the carbon tax was going to pay for.

Tax cuts with infinite spending. If you thought the Liberal deficits were bad, hoo boy here we go.

#2 renter in Surrey on 03.11.18 at 5:14 pm

If debt can’t be paid off, the only solution in to print more money causing hyper-inflation.
In this case people who borrowed up to eyeballs to purchase RE and toys were right and people who saved and lived withing their means are screwed.

#3 mitzerboyakaQueencityKidd on 03.11.18 at 5:15 pm

dogs are great
beer is good

people usually get what they deserve

#4 Arto on 03.11.18 at 5:16 pm

I would have definitely voted for you…NOT

#5 Dead Cat Bounce on 03.11.18 at 5:17 pm

Wasn’t the budget supposed to balance itself ?

#6 Sebastien on 03.11.18 at 5:20 pm

The insane spending will end two ways: sovereign default or hyperinflation.

This is why democracies always collapse on the long run and this is why I own gold.

#7 Mike on 03.11.18 at 5:21 pm

Reason and pragmatism left a while ago. Politically, I’m alone in the wilderness.

#8 Whatcha Minnie on 03.11.18 at 5:24 pm

Yesterday and overnight I had a sore throat, so I stayed behind this morning while the wife and kid took the kitten downtown to get spayed. I had strict orders from the wife to park my ass on the couch and get better.

So I cleaned the kitchen, emptied the dishwasher, then tackled the gigantic mess the neighborhood kids left after movie night chez nous. That led to a total deep cleaning, floor washing, leather couch remoisterizing. In between that a few loads of laundry, and during all that caught up on 3 documentaries and now know everything about the Celts, European geological history, and the Clovis people. Then I took the teak table into the garage and sanded it down then re-oiled it.

#9 FOUR FINGERS WATSON on 03.11.18 at 5:24 pm

Silly wabbit. Fiscal conservatism is dead. Where’s my free stuff ?

#10 Ace Goodheart on 03.11.18 at 5:25 pm

Over budget spending is just delayed currency devaluation. Sooner or later they have to print money. It just stokes inflation and makes everyone have to rush to keep up.

Populism was predictable. Invade the world and try to convince everyone west is best. 21 years ago I left Canada and went to live in South East Asia. First thing I learned? West is not best. People hate us. There was simmering anger. Too many wars. Too much “we are better than you”. That was before Iraq. The war that exposed the USA as an emperor with no clothes and broke apart 100 years of carefully put together mystery.

Suddenly the entire world exclaimed, following Iraq “these people are terrorists”. And they were talking about the USA.

We live in the broken remains of a military industrial complex that was torn apart by ignorance and hubris.

All that remains is for the “long summer” of our current 12,000 years of climate stability to lurch to a grinding halt, and then the next mass extinction will begin.

However this time it won’t be tropical frogs or Iraqis or dolphins or whales.

This time it is all of us.

Remember. Generalists are best at surviving mass extinctions. It is why humans are still here.

Oh and a kid is a kid. Before puberty they have no gender. Leave the children alone. Sheesh…

#11 Damifino on 03.11.18 at 5:25 pm

How else can you explain BC embracing the NDP and Greens?
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It’s not so much an embrace as it is a frosty handshake.

#12 Joe Schmoe on 03.11.18 at 5:28 pm

I remember meeting an ex-MLA who started the rural post secondary push in AB. Guy was successful BEFORE being a politician, and had an ambitious but important agenda.

He was one of the best people I have ever met. Was a lawyer who took on “equal rights” cases before JT “invented” the term.

I bet I would meet few if any elected officials of that calibre today.

We made it too lucrative to be a politician. Look at JT. This is the highest paying job he will ever have. AND it comes with free childcare and a pension!

#13 timoftrees on 03.11.18 at 5:38 pm

Hmm, let me think.

Dad. Business owner. Christian.

If it weren’t for Catholic Schools, my boys would be homeschool-ed. I’ve worked in the Oil Patch and in some of the more liberal-minded towns in BC, and the drug culture there is ruinous. I can’t say, from what I saw, either one is better than the other. Derrickhands smoking crack on the mud tanks- or unemployed suburban douchebags smoking weed at the coffee shop.

And now, we’re bringing this problem – the latter one, anyway- to Ontario. Funny, I worked on a native saw crew, and had a fella telling me that weed was his gateway drug. Started with weed, got really bad, after that!

The gender stuff is absolutely crazy. If a boy REALLY thinks he’s a girl- hey, who are we to judge. You start telling boys they’re girls, you start attacking the institutions, the efforts and accomplishments of an entire gender and race… that’s going too far. That’s hateful and insane.

Socks is a typical alt-lefter whose never had to run a chainsaw, swing tongs, clamber up a roof, or point a firearm at bad guys. He’s never had to make payroll- or pay his guys before he pays himself.

I’m a millenial. I’ll vote Ford.

#14 Stone on 03.11.18 at 5:41 pm

I think the only response to this blog post today is being thankful for having a balanced and globally diversified portfolio and not being locked down via home ownership.

Just curious. Is there a list of fiscally responsible countries out there? Would be good to know when the time comes to escape. I don’t mind paying taxes for services provided. I just don’t want to live somewhere that isn’t able to restrain itself fiscally nor delay its gratification.

#15 Thedood on 03.11.18 at 5:43 pm

Garth, you’re never too old!

If u were to re-enter politics, you could count on my vote. And probably those of many others. If ur up to it, throw your hat in. What’s the worst that could happen? I think you’d win in a landslide!

#16 For those about to flop... on 03.11.18 at 5:45 pm

Boss,it’s not too late.

Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods have found a way to wind the clock back.

I will carry your bag.

Not touching your balls…

M43BC

#17 Stan Brooks on 03.11.18 at 5:49 pm

#6 Sebastien on 03.11.18 at 5:20 pm
The insane spending will end two ways: sovereign default or hyperinflation.

This is why democracies always collapse on the long run and this is why I own gold.

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It all depends.

Switzerland and France never collapsed and they are democracies (Switzerland is a direct democracy).

Hyperinflation will not happen and is not needed.
Gradual inflation of 6-10 % yearly for 15 years with CPI at 1 % will do the same job.

The herd seems to be fine with that. Why change something that actually work (for the rich, not for the poor)?

#18 Climate change on 03.11.18 at 5:56 pm

OH the climate change.
Yes, it’s changing, we’re going into”grand solar minimum” a mini ice age that should last between 30 70 years.

#19 Headhunter on 03.11.18 at 5:57 pm

Doug Ford Will be the next premier of Ontario. Trump 2.0
Just like Trump, the unwashed masses, the silent majority are fed up, and will vote him in.. Remember the MSM said Trump had less then a 2% chance. Listen to them some more..

MAKE ONTARIO GREAT AGAIN

#20 Dead Cat Bounce on 03.11.18 at 5:58 pm

#8 Whatcha Minnie on 03.11.18 at 5:24 pm

To what grit did you sand the table ?

#21 Big Kahuna on 03.11.18 at 6:00 pm

The Ontario election is simple-if you want higher taxes-vote Wynne-if you want lower taxes-vote Ford. All the rest is just blah blah blah.

#22 Steve O on 03.11.18 at 6:01 pm

All the PCs needed to do was elect a leader who would smile, sound rational and repeat “I’m not them”. Instead, they decided to test the theory that a seedless watermelon could beat Wynne.

Not sure how Ford’s baggage is any better than Brown’s baggage, but the moral authorities will fill me in. No matter who wins, Ontario will lose…

#23 Jay on 03.11.18 at 6:01 pm

A beautifully written yet unintential explanation for why bitcoin will thrive going forward.

#24 Gaga on 03.11.18 at 6:01 pm

336b? Hahahha ,Ontario is screwed big time.
Will be leaving in a few years.

#25 Two Faced Politics on 03.11.18 at 6:02 pm

In May 2013 the Globe and Mail ran a lengthly article about Doug Ford being a hash dealer in Etobicoke during the eighties . Ford said it wasn’t true of course but the Globe stuck to their story. If it wasn’t true then I’m sure he would have sued the pants off of the newspaper. Now all of a sudden the PC party has convenient amnesia and elect him as party leader. No backround check required ? Would love to hear from Garth on this one.

#26 Sunny Day Today on 03.11.18 at 6:04 pm

Ontario rolled Blue from 1942-1985, since then Red has been rolled 6 times, Blue 2 and Orange only once.
Should we expect a reversion to the mean? Or maybe people have grown tired of angry old men shouting ‘do as I say, but not as I do.’

#27 Surf city usa on 03.11.18 at 6:08 pm

#8 Whatcha Minnie on 03.11.18 at 5:24 pm
Yesterday and overnight I had a sore throat, so I stayed behind this morning while the wife and kid took the kitten downtown to get spayed. I had strict orders from the wife to park my ass on the couch and get better.

So I cleaned the kitchen, emptied the dishwasher, then tackled the gigantic mess the neighborhood kids left after movie night chez nous. That led to a total deep cleaning, floor washing, leather couch remoisterizing. In between that a few loads of laundry, and during all that caught up on 3 documentaries and now know everything about the Celts, European geological history, and the Clovis people. Then I took the teak table into the garage and sanded it down then re-oiled it.

I drank beer all day. Hey. Why not.

#28 Stone on 03.11.18 at 6:09 pm

#24 Gaga on 03.11.18 at 6:01 pm
336b? Hahahha ,Ontario is screwed big time.
Will be leaving in a few years.

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Yes, the unwashed masses can keep their debt. Wealth has wings and doesn’t need to stick around to clean up the mess. Sad to say but quite true.

#29 Smartalox on 03.11.18 at 6:11 pm

@#25 Two-faced politics:

If the LCBO is going to start selling pot, DoFo’s prior experiences may just come in handy.

What I’d like to know is what happens when two populists meet on opposite side of the same issue? Where’s the love between President Trump, and Premier DoFo, if one tries to tariff the other’s industries, with each other’s populations watching?

#30 TnT on 03.11.18 at 6:14 pm

Trumpism… the antidote to SJW…

This wheel will wobble side to side till it falls off…

and the Great Reset will begin…

The writing is on the wall people, you just have to put your phone down for a sec to read it.

#31 Millennial905er on 03.11.18 at 6:14 pm

Why couldn’t the Libs just do what they were supposed to do? Be a centrist rational option. Instead they found, in their infinite wisdom, they should dictate to the electorate on how to think (m103 – feds), how to speak (c16), how to raise their kids (bill 89 wynne losers), the list goes on and on.

When you push too hard this is what you get! Why can’t we just have a rational government for once that takes care of the essentials? Transit, Healthcare, real education…. and doesn’t intervene in our lives? Instead we get Bozo one or Bozo two…. What a nightmare. This province is doomed.

#32 OMG on 03.11.18 at 6:17 pm

Everyone I speak to is frustrated with all the parties. I swear if the Rhinoceros Party ran enough candidates in June, they’d form the government.

#33 NotLegalAdvice on 03.11.18 at 6:19 pm

Conservatives going in for the win this June.

#34 Gregor Samsa on 03.11.18 at 6:26 pm

#2 renter in Surrey
>If debt can’t be paid off, the only solution in to print more money causing hyper-inflation.

Wrong. The only solution is to bring more people to Canada, because as long as the population is rising as fast as the debt, the party may continue. And you will note this is exactly what both Harper and Trudeau have done.

Canadian population growth is 1.2%. Immigration is 0.8%. Federal spending growth is 6%. So much for your theory. – Garth

#35 Pulp Faction on 03.11.18 at 6:27 pm

It’s sad that you’re right Garth.
You’re exactly what we need right now but everybody votes for their own particular special interests.
Garth Turner is what we would get if we voted responsibly. If we voted in the best interests of the country.

#36 john m on 03.11.18 at 6:30 pm

The election fiasco last night certainly was not impressive and quite frightening.

#37 Stone on 03.11.18 at 6:30 pm

If Doug Ford is elected premier, I think the SJWs of Ontario are in for a massive surprise and not a nice one at that. Oh my. Oh my.

Release the hounds!!!

#38 El presidente Trump on 03.11.18 at 6:32 pm

Bro dougie is a lock. Believe me. Mr. Dressup tour sealed it.

#39 OttawaMike on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm

Doug will make The Ontario Cannabis Store (TOCS geddit?) sing like a well oiled machine. His years of slinging hashish to the street dealers in Etobicoke taught him a thing or two.

Besides if we use Mike Harris as the benchmark how much worse can Doug be?

#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm

What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom? The pulpit pounders are largely extinct, and free thinking is the new reality for most. Nobody chooses their DNA, so if they lean away from the norm, why treat them like freaks? Honestly, you can’t catch it, unlike STDs. There are millions of people, particularly in Africa, who would be alive today if sex-ed was taught more widely. Con thinking is mostly harmless, but this one is unjustifiable on any level. But I can forgive them, for they know not what they do not know.

#41 cecil1 on 03.11.18 at 6:36 pm

This is what people are fed up with:

It’s David vs Goliath When the Canada Revenue Agency Assaults

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QL7YBH9-yw

Speak OUT against this!!! A slave paid 10% in tax. And we pay 50%. It must end.

The welfare state takes away each year some part of our power to make decisions over our own lives.

If this process continues (as our masters’ power to take our money to bribe the masses make inevitable), we shall become mere human livestock managed by an inhuman bureaucracy.

Canadian society has been so artfully manipulated our citizens no longer have constitutional rights that are not subject to revocation in the name of Social Welfare.

There are no citizens here, only masses in a state of indiscriminate ‘equality’, a state of de facto bureaucratic slavery

#42 calgaryfine on 03.11.18 at 6:38 pm

Good area to buy in GTA for a family with kids? Oakville? Burlington?

#43 Penny Henny on 03.11.18 at 6:38 pm

Garth do you remember the saying ‘A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down’.
I’ll take Ford over Wynne any day of the week.
Heck I might even vote twice.

#44 -=jwk=- on 03.11.18 at 6:39 pm

Born with a silver spoon, never had to find a real job, never had to make any real decisions, free to sell crack and dabble in politics, run here, run there, it’s all fun….yeah I’ll vote for Ford. Not.

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT: Ford isn’t running against Trudeau.

#45 Big Kahuna on 03.11.18 at 6:55 pm

The best thing about Doug Ford winning would be the absolute hissy fit the Canadian MSM would throw-can you imagine the wailing at the CBC? “This is a dark day in the history of Ontario-the voters have chosen fear and anger”.LOL-it would be priceless.

#46 Howard on 03.11.18 at 6:56 pm

He’s not so much right-wing as simply populist. And given that left-leaning parties across Canada have gone totally cultural-Marxist whacko, populism is consequently identified with the right. That isn’t always true, but at this point in our history it is.

#47 Medic on 03.11.18 at 6:58 pm

Turner actually did pretty well in the 1993 election when the Conservatives were wiped off the map. He only lost by a couple thousand votes, whereas most other Cons were pummelled by many times that.

#48 Stan Brooks on 03.11.18 at 7:00 pm

#18 Climate change on 03.11.18 at 5:56 pm
OH the climate change.
Yes, it’s changing, we’re going into”grand solar minimum” a mini ice age that should last between 30 70 years.

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https://steemit.com/news/@tftproject/eye-opening-study-predicts-solar-cycle-will-cause-a-mini-ice-age-as-early-as-2020

It seems we need to get used to cold winters.

Are there historical record of growing wheat in the prairies before the last prolonged sunspot minimum
(the Maunder Minimum occurred between 1645 and 1715 when very few sunspots were observed)?

No.

Just start observing the weather patterns in the next few years. In the last 3 there was definitely some cooling.

The good news is that it will be over by 2050.

Just in time for T3 to come into power?

#49 paul on 03.11.18 at 7:01 pm

36 john m on 03.11.18 at 6:30 pm

The election fiasco last night certainly was not impressive and quite frightening.
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Oooohhh Better go find you safe place! lol

#50 Stan Brooks on 03.11.18 at 7:04 pm

#41 cecil1 on 03.11.18 at 6:36 pm
This is what people are fed up with:

It’s David vs Goliath When the Canada Revenue Agency Assaults

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QL7YBH9-yw

Speak OUT against this!!! A slave paid 10% in tax. And we pay 50%. It must end.

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Yep,

The farther you stay away from that, the better.

50% is not enough, they want 70 %.

#51 Howard on 03.11.18 at 7:07 pm

One other thing…

#MOGA #MOGA #MOGA !!

#52 Howard on 03.11.18 at 7:10 pm

#26 Sunny Day Today on 03.11.18 at 6:04 pm
Ontario rolled Blue from 1942-1985, since then Red has been rolled 6 times, Blue 2 and Orange only once.
Should we expect a reversion to the mean? Or maybe people have grown tired of angry old men shouting ‘do as I say, but not as I do.’

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Angry old men, you mean like Kathleen Wynne? aka Orville Redenbacher?

#53 Howard on 03.11.18 at 7:12 pm

#25 Two Faced Politics on 03.11.18 at 6:02 pm
In May 2013 the Globe and Mail ran a lengthly article about Doug Ford being a hash dealer in Etobicoke during the eighties . Ford said it wasn’t true of course but the Globe stuck to their story. If it wasn’t true then I’m sure he would have sued the pants off of the newspaper. Now all of a sudden the PC party has convenient amnesia and elect him as party leader. No backround check required ? Would love to hear from Garth on this one.

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So he sold weed in his 20s. File this under “Who cares?”.

At least he was enterprising. How did T2 spend his 20s?

#54 Terry on 03.11.18 at 7:14 pm

“Meanwhile public debt, over-consumption, climate change, the wealth gap and a retirement crisis fester while we diddle over the arcane.”

I agree that our public debt needs to be addressed. “Over consumption?” We are consumers….. we consume to live….that’s the way it is. “Climate change?” Climate is always changing…….. it does this in cycles……….. no problem here as the earth will look after itself. “Wealth gap?” This will always be the case since we are NOT created equal. “Retirement crisis?” This is the peoples own fault for not saving enough or even thinking about retirement planning.

Congratulations and good job Mr Ford! It’s good to see that the seeds of Populism are sprouting in Ontario ….there is now hope on the horizon!

#55 John Dough on 03.11.18 at 7:18 pm

#35 Pulp Faction on 03.11.18 at 6:27 pm
It’s sad that you’re right Garth.

******
He had so much untapped potential

#56 Flatlander on 03.11.18 at 7:21 pm

“Tax cuts without spending cuts will create the mother of all deficits”….in total agreement Garth, had the same discussion over breakfast this morning with some business owners in Arizona (Pro-Trump US 1%’s). They believe the increased corporate growth as a result of the cuts will produce a sufficient increase in tax paying jobs/new businesses to cover the 30% difference. I argued against in the long run, I can’t see the US economy growing that big that fast. Any insight into what portion of that 30% cut you believe could be recovered through these new taxpayers?

#57 Howard on 03.11.18 at 7:21 pm

#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm
What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom? The pulpit pounders are largely extinct, and free thinking is the new reality for most. Nobody chooses their DNA, so if they lean away from the norm, why treat them like freaks? Honestly, you can’t catch it, unlike STDs. There are millions of people, particularly in Africa, who would be alive today if sex-ed was taught more widely. Con thinking is mostly harmless, but this one is unjustifiable on any level. But I can forgive them, for they know not what they do not know.

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I went through the Ontario public school system in the 90s.

Sex Ed included the necessities. Infections and pregnancy, and how to prevent both. It covered everything a 14-year old needed to know to protect himself or herself. It was a common sense approach and it was effective; it isn’t as if Ontario is known for high term pregnancy or STI outbreaks in highschools.

The Liberals’ socially engineered departure from this common sense approach, forcing borderline pornographic material on even younger children, is just despicable, as was their characterization of everyone who had concerns as being sex-phobic religious nuts. They overreached, on this and so many other issues. and the decade-long counterpunch begins in June.

#58 TRUMP on 03.11.18 at 7:22 pm

It’s ok Garth…..You would have been forced to do things you didn’t want to do anyways.

But just goes to prove my point. Doesn’t matter who you vote for……cuz in the end

“”The more things change, the more they stay the same!!!””

#59 ANON on 03.11.18 at 7:27 pm

Sadly, nobody cares.

Personally, I do.
Just tell me how things can work without a promise of having more into the future, and I’ll even pay attention to politics. :)

#60 earthboundmisfit on 03.11.18 at 7:28 pm

No worries. DoFo will be #MeToo’d out within six months.

#61 Reynolds531 on 03.11.18 at 7:30 pm

I really don’t like the look of this guy. But voting conservative might be the only way we aren’t on the “lose 25 pounds a year the hard way” Venezuelan diet in a few short years.

#62 Danny on 03.11.18 at 7:44 pm

Very fair analysis.

Election results mostly depend on how many get out to Vote.

Obama’s message of ” Don’t Boo…..vote ” is really what democracy is all about.

Let’s see this time whether the masses get out to vote…..and not just the angry slum landlords.

Definitely the Etobicoke bully ….Ford…is going to swell division.

And yes Garth as you said :Conservatives have started to openly support angry men opposed to government based on special interests”

I still can’t understand how the Ford brothers every got into trying to run government….when really they never believed in the basic reasons for government.

Wow and I thought Mike Harris was a dictator in disguise.

#63 Hans on 03.11.18 at 7:48 pm

“#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm
What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom? The pulpit pounders are largely extinct, and free thinking is the new reality for most. Nobody chooses their DNA, so if they lean away from the norm, why treat them like freaks? Honestly, you can’t catch it, unlike STDs. There are millions of people, particularly in Africa, who would be alive today if sex-ed was taught more widely. Con thinking is mostly harmless, but this one is unjustifiable on any level. But I can forgive them, for they know not what they do not know.”

I think it’s gone a whole lot more further than people realize. Take a look at a school calendar and you will get a taste of what’s going on in education. Every month is labelled with a social justice cause, several days and weeks also additionally labelled for some social justice cause, alternative math curriculums and approaches, and this is ignoring the whole gender bender focus that applies to every “traditional” day like mother’s day, father’s day and every new “millennial” day like Trans-remembrance day, Pink shirt day, pride week. Schools are over reaching and need to allow parents to make decisions about the timing and depths that they discuss some of these issues at home. I don’t think we should go back to the days where these topics were taboo, however, it is no wonder that students are graduating lacking the skills they need to be gainfully employed. The system is setting them up for failure. More math and reading and less erasing history and removal of open and free debate.

#64 Mike T. on 03.11.18 at 7:50 pm

Hello Folks
Wow the Earth situation looks dire/weird/un-sustainable
You will see for yourselves that the opposite is true.
The energy on this planet has shifted and things are about to change in a way that we cannot imagine.
Look, this will sound strange and no one will believe me and that’s cool – we are all about to remember who we really are and what it truly means to be human.
If you have ever seen the Dr. Strange movie, that is kind of what we’re going to experience.
Peace Love and Light to you all.
There are only positive events to come for all of us – I promise.
Thank you for the space Mr. Turner.

#65 Adrian on 03.11.18 at 7:53 pm

Garth, why do you insist on the fallacy of “zero deficits”? This fundamentally misunderstands Capitalism, and government’s role in economic accumulation, not to mention Canada’s current position in the debt super-cycle. Part of engaging in discussion with people is to learn what they know, otherwise it’s just polemic.

Sovereign governments are not like households, but rather like banks. They create money when they run “deficits,” much as commercial banks create money when they provide more $ in new loans than they take back in principal repayments. As the productive economy grows, people require more money, both for the greater quantity/frequency of transactions, but also for the accumulated savings of various sectors. Governments debts actually enable this. Government debt is less of a problem than PRIVATE debt:

“Steve Keen: Private Debt and change in credit are the problem”
https://youtu.be/JcwRcI-wZHA

(Obviously, provincial governments aren’t sovereign, and since they don’t own their own bank they have to regulate their debt-to-income/GDP ratio, much the same as any household. Nevertheless, even *small* non-sovereign government deficits funding infrastructure investments are perfectly desirable in a growing economy.)

If governments don’t create this money, then private commercial banks are the only source of money creation. However, as 1929 & 2008 show us, private bank-created money creates private asset bubbles that blow up the economy when people start deleveraging. (You, yourself, have commented on the negative fallout to the economy of a general devaluation of asset prices. Well, that is a structural feature of this stage of Capitalism without sovereign deficits – or interventions like QE – to offset mass private deleveraging.)

Canada is currently set up for a rather large financial & economic disruption thanks to our real estate bubble. Threats to NAFTA make this danger particularly acute. Government deficits are the only factor attenuating the real estate bubble’s bust, especially given our country’s ongoing struggle to re-establish a trade surplus. Without government deficits, the impact of deleveraging on employment, bankruptcies, and household suffering will become dangerously destabilizing to our national cohesion. (Just look to the USA & various post-bubble countries in Europe to see what could happen here…)

Populism and extreme partisanship are consequences of both extreme inequality and the collapse of the credit channel’s capacity to create “a rising tide that lifts all boats.” Capitalism actually needs sovereign deficits – now more than ever – to reduce private indebtedness and restart the global debt super-cycle. Last time took WW2…

Before that, there were private debt-bubbles in France preceding WW1 & the French Revolution. Finally, the Panic of 1837 and subsequent 1840s depression led to the consolidation of land, slaves, wealth, & power into the hands of an oligarchy in the South that may have helped pave the way for the South’s secession & the American Civil War.

Garth, would you give up your fiscal conservatism if it could prevent WW3? I could say “Please” if you like…

#66 bsallergy on 03.11.18 at 7:54 pm

Garth, are the majority of your readers nuts?

#67 Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.11.18 at 7:56 pm

#1 Dee sez:

“It worries me that all the PC candidates–Ford included–vowed to get rid of the carbon tax while keeping all the spending the carbon tax was going to pay for.

Tax cuts with infinite spending. If you thought the Liberal deficits were bad, hoo boy here we go.”
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So the carbon tax IS a tax grab then? So much for being “revenue neutral”.

#68 A J on 03.11.18 at 7:57 pm

I was going to vote PC but now I’m voting NDP. Me and many others I know. Eff Ford and everything he stands for.

#69 FredfromKitchener on 03.11.18 at 7:58 pm

Ontario deserves the leaders it votes for. Nuff said.

#70 Ford Nation on 03.11.18 at 7:59 pm

Get rid of Andrew scheer, for Nation all the way baby!!
Go Dougie!! Rip Rob

#71 Capt. Serious on 03.11.18 at 8:03 pm

Do we have any reason to believe a Doug Ford led Conservative party with reduce the debt, or even curtail spending? He’s not exactly an exemplary politician.

#72 Chaddywack on 03.11.18 at 8:03 pm

If Trudeau and his ilk didn’t veer so far to the left the Fords of the world wouldn’t have a chance.

I’m personally refreshed to see the anti-Trudeau running in Ontario. I hope he wins and I think he will.

People can only take so much social engineering and identity politics that have sadly actually caused more prejudice to come to the surface in Canada in my opinion.

#73 Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.11.18 at 8:05 pm

#46 Howard sez:

“He’s not so much right-wing as simply populist. And given that left-leaning parties across Canada have gone totally cultural-Marxist whacko, populism is consequently identified with the right. That isn’t always true, but at this point in our history it is.”
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Exactly. I am a centre of the road guy and I’ve had enough. Ford all the way.

#74 Capt. Serious on 03.11.18 at 8:07 pm

In May 2013 the Globe and Mail ran a lengthly article about Doug Ford being a hash dealer in Etobicoke during the eighties .

So, well qualified to run a pot dispensary. Actually adds to the resume now.

#75 -=jwk=- on 03.11.18 at 8:07 pm

So he sold weed in his 20s. File this under “Who cares?”.

At least he was enterprising. How did T2 spend his 20s?

Conservatives, the law and order party, the war on drugs party, the ‘do the crime, serve the time’ party, the anti-MJ party, the gateway drug party.. Oh, wait Ford’s not a liberal, doesn’t count. Carry on.

#76 Big Kahuna on 03.11.18 at 8:07 pm

Jeez-in that picture Doug Ford looks even more like the classic White Male Devil the kids are taught to hate than Trump does.

#77 acdel on 03.11.18 at 8:09 pm

#56 Flatlander

I agree with both of you. I wish that I had the link, grey matter has set in and I cannot remember which News Link that I read this on, could have been Washington Post.

Anyways the article stated (in which they had proof) but so far 200 billion dollars that have been repatriated into the U.S. due to tax cuts did not go towards into investing into new business’s, creating new jobs etc, but buying back shares in their companies!

I find it hard to stay positive; could be the long winter!

#78 Upenuff on 03.11.18 at 8:09 pm

Education or better yet the lack of economic education in our public schools over the past 25 years now has a population of young oblivious on how to spend while saving; yet paying off debt….. Why would a millennial vote for someone with a platform on fiscal spending when they have never been taught or had to endure the real tightening of the belt. It is easier to vote for a good looking wanna be who has 100,000 tweet followers. After all, when they get into a squeeze they can just call upon the Bank of Mom and Dad.

#79 Comic Book Guy on 03.11.18 at 8:10 pm

Thought I would ask this question again since I didn’t get a reply last time I asked on this blog…Does anyone remember if Vancouver condos fell more than detached houses during the 1990s housing correction?

I figure we should be into peak Vancouver condo prices in the next few months, and then the full effects of B-20 + rate hikes + NDP/Green anti-speculation legislation will be felt and drive down condo prices, but I wonder what happens when condo prices fall? Will Lower mainland condo prices fall further than detached house prices because of greater supply of condos? Thanks.

#80 Zapstrap on 03.11.18 at 8:10 pm

#47 Medic on 03.11.18 at 6:58 pm

Turner actually did pretty well in the 1993 election when the Conservatives were wiped off the map. He only lost by a couple thousand votes, whereas most other Cons were pummelled by many times that.

Did he have a “pathetic blog” back then?

Hard to believe but I’m starting to see some sold signs around the neighborhood out west here. Haven’t seen many for a while. I guess the warm weather is bringing them out of hibernation along with the daffodils.

#81 broader mind on 03.11.18 at 8:11 pm

There’s a difference between the Canadian electorate and the American one . We are not insane enough to allow name recognition to control our vote. Ford will go down in flames. The sad part is the cons thinking this could work. Why not try to sell ethics and policy?

#82 Big Kahuna on 03.11.18 at 8:12 pm

#63 Hans-a FORTUNE is spent to “educate” the average kid in Ontario from preschool to Grade 12. After all this money is spent, the average kid doesn’t even have a value to any employer exceeding the government mandated Minimum Wage. The whole mess is one big bottomless pit.

#83 Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.11.18 at 8:15 pm

Garth sez:

“Conservatives have started to openly support angry men opposed to government based on special interests.”
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What is wrong with that? There is nothing wrong with anger expressed in opposition to gross injustice.

#84 Drug Ford on 03.11.18 at 8:17 pm

Thank you for your endorsement, Garth!

Respect for the taxpayers!

Drain the swamp!

Reject the elites!

FORD NATION RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#85 suburban coyote and pup on 03.11.18 at 8:18 pm

#41 calgaryfine.

Burlington is a high quality community (see Money Sense magazine for top mid size cities). Downtown is particularly attractive with character homes, safe, walkable, bealutiful waterfront park, beachway. Good schools, reasonable taxes and good infrastructure. Oakville is pricier but of course slightly closer to Toronto.

Depending on your budget and taste there is a modern custom new build coming on the market in the next 90 days…I know cuz I sold the lot to the builder ;)

F53On

#86 Fake News Again on 03.11.18 at 8:24 pm

#1 Dee on 03.11.18 at 5:12 pm
It worries me that all the PC candidates–Ford included–vowed to get rid of the carbon tax while keeping all the spending the carbon tax was going to pay for.

Tax cuts with infinite spending. If you thought the Liberal deficits were bad, hoo boy here we go.

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CUT the size of Govt. Oh wait…that would be the smart thing to do….and Govt Workers do not know how to do smart things.

#87 dakkie on 03.11.18 at 8:25 pm

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#88 Ima Fakeologist on 03.11.18 at 8:29 pm

I always like you Garth – but politics has little to do with common sense and even less to do with balancing the budget. Most people don’t know the difference between debt and deficit, and if they do, know not of how to solve it. 30 years ago it mattered, but no longer is it a concern.

One day the day of reckoning will come. Corporations will own all public property, and Lake Ontario will be re-branded, sold, and leased back to the people. Question is, if the Queen and her corporations already own Canada, can she take it back again in exchange for the debt?

Money is the ultimate illusion…

#89 Flat Earth Society on 03.11.18 at 8:30 pm

I think I’ve found a guy who can explain the problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjs2gPa5sD0

It’s not in this video and I couldn’t find the one that has it, but if you watch the full lecture he goes on to say that some people are incapable of making complex systems better, and can only make them worse. Sort of like asking a child to program a computer or decide what’s for dinner. You’ll be having ice-cream.

So the problem we face, folks, is that 50% of the people voting are incapable of understanding the situation in a complex society such as we have. One of them may be you. The chances are 50/50, the only way to find out is take that IQ test. Sure some of them might vote correctly by chance or by training, but left to their own devices they can’t even conceptualize a “government deficit” because they’ve never seen one. It’s not like they walk through your back yard like the occasional deer or coyote.

The problem we have as humans is that most of what we know just isn’t so, to paraphrase. But the problem is even more complicated than that in that we also don’t know what we don’t know. When our brains are full we assume that’s all there is. Kind of like trying to copy a terabyte of data onto a 32 gig SD card. Most of it won’t fit.

So part 1 of the problem is what we know just isn’t so, and part 2 is that what we do know is a very small part of the picture. No wonder we make so many bad decisions.

I have this very problem with my father. He is an excellent carpenter, and also votes conservative so all is well. But according to the video he’s probably around average intelligence and I can attest that this is true. However he does have a lot of static knowledge. But there are some areas where he clearly doesn’t understand what he doesn’t understand. For example, he believes he knows everything there is to know about science because he reads the Bible. Fossils? Bible. Sedimentary rocks? Bible. Stars? Bible. Death? Bible. It’s all right there in the first few chapters of Genesis and he’s immune to the absolutely overwhelming evidence now available, that wasn’t available to the writer of that book.

I’ve been watching a number of Jordan Peterson’s videos and so have a lot of other people, he is taking the internet by storm and so far hasn’t been censored by YouTube. (He provides no reason to be censored.)

One of the points he makes is that sending 18 year-olds out to be activists is unconscionable. $15/hour! Universal Income! Tax the rich! But they don’t know anything yet. Maybe they will still believe all those things when they are 40 but I doubt it.

So folks, here is the thing. We created the Flat Earth Society as a joke, but also to find out exactly how gullible people were, and the results were shocking. Yes, we were behind the crop circles too and that was even more shocking. It was just a drunken joke. But the people who bought it are registered voters. It does not lead to great conclusions as to where things are going.

Some people will counter; “But look at all the great things we have accomplished! Thomas Edison invented the light bulb!” Sure he did but it was trial and error. Technological progress is mostly evolutionary, not revolutionary. Trial and error. A great many labs have been blown to smithereens to get where we are. Madam Curie and her husband certainly did discover radioactivity, but they also died from it.

#90 bigtowne on 03.11.18 at 8:34 pm

Surely it is cruel to confront an immature child on the subject of Gender Identity not giving the young being some time to consider and not being allowed 18 years to grow without unwanted or unneeded challenges. Is it possible adults are the inept group?

Doug Ford is a gender change…he has a sense of humour and is folksy. He talks about Ontario as if it exists unlike Ms Wynn who seems to only yammer about the needs of Toronto and Mayor Tory. It is not a bad thing to at minimum consider that Ontario is a geographic area larger that the GTA. The Bible speaks of using the “weak” to accomplish great things…Lord knows we could use some “greatness” now in Ontario

#91 n1tro on 03.11.18 at 8:35 pm

Those bashing Ford for his views or name have got to remember he came in second to John Tory (liberal) in 2014 by 60K votes. The main reason Tory won was the front runner Rob Ford dropped dead of cancer. The same guy who lied about smoking crack and all was forgiven. I think if Rob Ford’s name was left on the ballot, Toronto may have had the first elected dead mayor!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_mayoral_election,_2014

#92 Dan the fan on 03.11.18 at 8:36 pm

I’d rather love you as a source of good advice than hate you as a politician. Congrats on losing, you’ll live longer and spend more time with canines!

#93 conan on 03.11.18 at 8:38 pm

DOFO will bring some votes to the table but an equal amount of votes will get off the couch, and cancel that out.

The NDP can not come up the middle.

Prediction: Liberals by a nose hair.

#94 TOO HIGH on 03.11.18 at 8:39 pm

#41 calgaryfine – The cost of real estate to buy in both Burlington and Oakville is much too high.

#95 Grey Dog on 03.11.18 at 8:43 pm

I walked the grey dog today, word on the trails of Unionville “how can I vote for Ford.” “Did you know he and Rob dealt drugs in High School? It’s not like he needed the money to help the family out-he came from a wealthy family!” “My friends have all said they cannot vote for HIM.” So THAT is how the dog walkers of Unionville feel.

I’m still feeling sorry for Elliott…5 times a bridesmaid never THE Bride. (My husband reminds me she ran 3X, while her hubby ran twice as leader of Ontario PCs)…same difference…5X in my books. Has she conceded yet?

#96 Hiding On the Backstreets on 03.11.18 at 8:43 pm

“Sadly, nobody cares. Politicians are elected by people who (a) vote for more, or (b) vote against the last bums. Nobody goes to the polls to reduce spending, eliminate deficits, pay down debt or reduce the size of government. Part of the reason is that no politician ever campaigns on such a pledge. It’s why I sucked so badly at being in public life.”

True words, and sadly these salient points cannot get any traction. Is it our voting system? Human nature? democracy itself? Does any politician today have the guts to campaign on reducing government intrusion into our lives and livelihoods?

Perhaps fodder for an extended Greater Fool column, or maybe too far off the personal finance topic.
Canada was not ready for a politician of Garth’s sensible ilk. I predict it never will be.

#97 Mr Buyer on 03.11.18 at 8:44 pm

Politics. It has become routine to just make things up for political gain and encourage division in the population. Lies have been potent political tools since the beginning of politics so what could possibly go wrong. There is a reason we came up with the stories in the bible. While many will spend endless hours debating whether or not god even exists there is no escaping the bible stories and the commandments are there for all to read. These stories and principles are not only in the bible but in many books and stories. The principles are well understood by most thinking people. A series of reasonable guidelines paid for with often devastating experience by ancestors to guide descendants. That is my story and I am sticking to it. Not all cultures have all the same stories or guidelines but they share many commonalities. One extremely important part of our culture is the general idea that it is a bad thing to lie about what your neighbor has said or done, particularly falsely attributing reputation damaging acts or utterances to your neighbor that they did not say or do. Not all cultures think that is such an inhumane thing to do. In fact it is thought of as not such a good thing but usual and thus everything you hear must not simply be taken at face value and more a preponderance of evidence must be considered all be it through what might be a falsely constructed lens. Fast forward to our post-modernist Canada with the religion of there is no single interpretation but rather interpretations foisted upon us as mechanisms of control. In short there are many interpretations and none should be given credence over others (this can not end well especially if I interpret oxygen to be a vehicle of oppression and I choose not to partake any longer). So a society of gods choosing what they think is real and what is not coupled with groups jockeying for special consideration over other groups. Well lets imagine for a moment that a group such as dentists decide that if they were to interpret dental xrays in an alternate way that facilitated multiple visits and thus more money to treat say routine cavities. We hear all the time from Saul Alinsky types that everything is political so why not simple dental treatment. It is easy to imagine where we may wind up if the group identifying as dentists consolidated and were no longer limited by privileging one interpretation over another and bearing false witness is no longer a taboo but rather a taboo interpretation designed to oppress groups such as dentists. We could wind up as a highly technically advanced society with a population that have their teeth rotting out of their mouths trying desperately to avoid going to the dentist only to experience the good doctor mercilessly tapping away on the rotted cavity wondering aloud what the problem may or may not be and inviting the patient back for further consultations. Or perhaps doing only half a root canal and having a contemplative look on their face as further consultations will be carried out to find the elusive cause of distress. Any patient speaking out is quickly and unanimously described as a mental defect of sorts by all subsequent dentists so not long after the entire population sees it is better to shut up and eventually after enough money has been paid their dentist will someday provide relief. Hierarchies of competence are not looking so oppressive after all and identity politics is looking a whole lot more dangerous to the well being of the population it is parasitizing and not bearing false witness is looking alot more like a useful taboo.

#98 I believe everything on television on 03.11.18 at 8:44 pm

A hash dealer?
Apparently msm has started lying.
Just kidding, they haven’t stopped.
Its called propaganda.
Here’s a primer:

http://www.aamorris.net/

#99 Wut on 03.11.18 at 8:45 pm

#81 broader mind on 03.11.18 at 8:11 pm
There’s a difference between the Canadian electorate and the American one . We are not insane enough to allow name recognition to control our vote.

Only a Liberal could say this with a straight face.

#100 Interstellar Old Yeller on 03.11.18 at 8:52 pm

I would like the option to vote for the t-shirt dog.

#101 Trojan House on 03.11.18 at 8:56 pm

Think of a nation, or a province in this case, as a family. It’s a little easier to understand.

For arguments sake, let’s say the husband starts giving money to another family. Let’s say he then gives the car to the other family. Then he gives food, then medication, then clothing, pays for their cable bills, electric bills, water bills and house maintenance. Then he invites members of the other family to live in his home. And then extended family members of the other family…etc, etc.

It’s only a matter of time before a number of things happen:

1) His family starts to complain that he is paying for the other family and not focusing on taking care of his own family;

2) His family starts complaining that there are too many other families in the home that are not their family;

3) His family gets into massive debt from supporting the other families; and,

$) His family eventually goes broke and can’t support any families.

This is essentially politics. Those on the left support wanting to take care of all other families while potentially leaving their own family struggling. Those on the right want to take care of their own family while potentially letting other families struggle. Although I would say that it is much more difficult to take care of other families than your own.

Therefore, I think this wave of “populism” is really just people getting tired of taking care of families other than their own. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. I know if I started taking care of other families, my wife would kill me!

#102 alex on 03.11.18 at 9:02 pm

it would be unethical to vote liberal in june. if you do and they win, this province deserves all the financial misfortune it gets.

#103 Howard on 03.11.18 at 9:03 pm

#81 broader mind on 03.11.18 at 8:11 pm
There’s a difference between the Canadian electorate and the American one . We are not insane enough to allow name recognition to control our vote.

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ROFLMAO.

I should frame this comment and look at it whenever I need a laugh.

Who won the 2015 federal, genius?

Who did YOU vote for in that contest?

#104 Samson Nights on 03.11.18 at 9:05 pm

Keep in mind it was right-wing ideology in the late 80’s and early 90’s that initiated the out-sourcing and off-shoring of much of Ontario’s manufacturing sector, resulting in a permanent gutting of the provincial tax base.

Provinces that were lucky enough to sit on a large pile of liquid dinosaur feces fared much better, continually gloating about their ‘Advantage’ until the oil tide went out exposing the incompetence of 4 decades of right-wing rule with nothing to show for it.

If the members of DoFo Nation think a divisive, serial-lying, loud-mouthed blowhard with the IQ of a seedless watermelon is going to be their upcoming June savior, they should know that the ‘elitists’ DoFo so hypocritically despises (yet so gladly accepts corporate donations from) are already lobbying at the door to gear up legislation that is guaranteed to play DoFo Nation voters like banjos.

#105 armpit on 03.11.18 at 9:06 pm

Perhaps a lot of Libs purchased Cons memberships just to vote FORD in????

#106 X on 03.11.18 at 9:06 pm

Ontario doesn’t have a lot of choice for this election.

Liberals have no fiscal or economic clue. None. And they make it difficult to keep much in your pockets after taxes.

The NDP will be worse. I don’t mind giving people a hand up, but they seem to want to give everyone a hand out.

Out of principle the Conservatives are the better option financially for most Ontarians. But their social stance may be what makes or breaks this elections. Anyone know if DF is going to the Pride parade?

#107 Pete from St. Cesaire on 03.11.18 at 9:06 pm

There’s a difference between the Canadian electorate and the American one . We are not insane enough to allow name recognition to control our vote.
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???? How do you think Trudeau got in? 100% his name.

#108 dr. talc on 03.11.18 at 9:11 pm

all politicians salute false flags and bear false witness to the psyops, and so will Doug. There are no exceptions.

#109 Big Kahuna on 03.11.18 at 9:12 pm

Doug Ford for Premier?? I thought Toxic Masculinity was illegal in Wynnetario-MAKE ONTARIO GREAT AGAIN.

#110 greyhound on 03.11.18 at 9:12 pm

What a great precis of the current Canada situation. I think is this the first of Garth’s posts I’ve ever forwarded to my wife.

#111 Howard on 03.11.18 at 9:18 pm

#75 -=jwk=- on 03.11.18 at 8:07 pm
So he sold weed in his 20s. File this under “Who cares?”.

At least he was enterprising. How did T2 spend his 20s?

Conservatives, the law and order party, the war on drugs party, the ‘do the crime, serve the time’ party, the anti-MJ party, the gateway drug party.. Oh, wait Ford’s not a liberal, doesn’t count. Carry on.

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Many of us who are nominally conservative are of a libertarian bent. I couldn’t care less about drug use and would be fine with legalizing everything as long as taxpayers do not have to foot the bill for addiction treatment. I do not believe in the MJ gateway drug theory and did not support Harper’s overly tough on crime stuff.

You fail to realize that the Doug Fords of the world are now the centre and his supporters are not all conservative. He’s a populist not a right-winger. You leftists overreached everywhere in Canada and now it’s time for the pendulum to swing back a bit.

#112 Debtslavecreator on 03.11.18 at 9:20 pm

More takers than makers
Left wing junk
Now we face certain decline as any attempt to cut spending drives gdp / income / tax revenue down and popular anger up as the massive hand outs are inevitably cut back by conservatives or more likely the creditors in 2-4 years once the sovereign debt crisis hits us shortly
The public chose freebies funded by borrowed money their children and grandchildren have to pay
When it gets bad enough the young will default
And so we should for sovereign debt is always a fraud
I did not consent nor benefit from the fraud debt and neither did my kids
The fake prosperity is beginning its end

#113 Guillaume on 03.11.18 at 9:26 pm

#53 Howard on 03.11.18 at 7:12 pm
“So he sold weed in his 20s. File this under “Who cares?”. At least he was enterprising. How did T2 spend his 20s?”

Probably buying weed from Doug ?

#114 stage1dave on 03.11.18 at 9:26 pm

If the recent “election” of Doug Ford at the PC convention (and it’s disconcerting ending and aftermath) was any indication, the ON election this summer is gonna be very entertaining!

Angry white men vs. the descendants of Brampton Billie’s four-decade coalition plus whatever splinter groups are currently attached…this will be worth watching. Bland used to sell when I was living there; WTF happened?

Mind you, OPC was still putting gum in with their hockey and football cards back then, several of my relatives had good paying, secure jobs in the auto industry, and Canada still had an air force…which is where the other half of my relatives were parked.

Ottawa ain’t been the same since Russ Jackson retired ffs…and I think the Argos had a pretty decent QB the year Bill arrived at QP.

I’ve been convinced for years you can’t tell people stuff they don’t wanna hear…that would include most of the Canadian electorate, btw. A third of em have their minds made up, another third want stuff but think someone else should pay, and the remaining third couldn’t care less; almost apathetic. (yeah, but who cares, right?)

The curse of the honest politician is he/she must speak truth to the powerless – haha – how’s that fer a twist?

And most of em aren’t gonna listen. I know many peeps who’ve been treating their houses like ATM’s for the last decade; it don’t work long-term on a micro-level (community) and it sure as hell don’t work long-term on a macro level (country)

Financial prudence is a hard-won goal for many, it sure was for me until my 30’s. What I find strange is how many of my associates who lived thru the 70s, 80s, and 90s, didn’t learn a damned thing…or simply don’t want to inconvenience themselves these days by pretending they did.

Cripes, if there’s an election coming up in SK this year I may have to upgrade to a 65″ flat screen!

#115 John in Mtl on 03.11.18 at 9:49 pm

Bla bla bla… and did you post all this on Facebook and Twitter too?

#8 Whatcha Minnie on 03.11.18 at 5:24 pm

So I cleaned the kitchen, emptied the dishwasher, then tackled the gigantic mess the neighborhood kids left after movie night chez nous. That led to a total deep cleaning, floor washing, leather couch remoisterizing. In between that a few loads of laundry, and during all that caught up on 3 documentaries and now know everything about the Celts, European geological history, and the Clovis people. Then I took the teak table into the garage and sanded it down then re-oiled it.

#116 Rick on 03.11.18 at 9:50 pm

“And you didn’t deserve me.” Thank God!

#117 Howard on 03.11.18 at 9:51 pm

#103 Samson Nights on 03.11.18 at 9:05 pm
Keep in mind it was right-wing ideology in the late 80’s and early 90’s that initiated the out-sourcing and off-shoring of much of Ontario’s manufacturing sector, resulting in a permanent gutting of the provincial tax base.

Provinces that were lucky enough to sit on a large pile of liquid dinosaur feces fared much better, continually gloating about their ‘Advantage’ until the oil tide went out exposing the incompetence of 4 decades of right-wing rule with nothing to show for it.

If the members of DoFo Nation think a divisive, serial-lying, loud-mouthed blowhard with the IQ of a seedless watermelon is going to be their upcoming June savior, they should know that the ‘elitists’ DoFo so hypocritically despises (yet so gladly accepts corporate donations from) are already lobbying at the door to gear up legislation that is guaranteed to play DoFo Nation voters like banjos.

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The technology and engineering talent required to turn that low-quality sludge of dinosaur feces into a commercially viable product is leagues more complex and advanced than anything to do with Ontario’s manufacturing industry, so lose the elitist attitude towards Alberta’s natural resources. Are you really going to argue that it didn’t then pay more than it’s fair share back to the rest of Canada (mostly Quebec)?

If Doug Ford has the IQ of a seedless watermelon, what’s the comparator for Trudeau? A prune? A celery stalk?

#118 Ontario PC Party Breaking News!!! on 03.11.18 at 9:57 pm

We are pleased to announce the following EXCITING NEWS!!!

After a review of our ballot machines and voting algorithms and software, we FINALLY have a new Ontario PC Leader!!!

His name is….(drum roll please!!!!)…….

BANDIT

Yes, Garth Turner’s dog is our new provincial Leader!!!!

Bandit has demonstrated the key abilities needed for our next Ontario PC Leader:

He can lick his own posterior clean as a whistle!

And he can bury his sh$t in plain view so well that his supporters believe it never even happened!

After that, he can kiss his supporters in the face, and they are so delighted they say will never wash again!

BANDIT! BANDIT! BANDIT!

Our new fabulous leader!!!!!!!

#119 NOSTRADAMUS on 03.11.18 at 10:00 pm

MADNESS IN MORTGAGE LAND

Fakery and trickery are not solutions, they are a form of self- delusional madness that destroys a persons ability to face reality squarely and choose real solutions, no matter how painful the choice may be.
Consider mortgage fraud. This substitution of trickery for reality solves nothing. Nothing has actually changed in the borrowers ability to repay the loan. However he has fooled the authorities focusing on superficialities, incompetent self serving Bank administrators who tout their large mortgage portfolios as evidence of their own success. If this happens often enough the borrowers and the Bankers actually start to believe they can get away with trickery as a solution for all problems. Just BS your way through any challenge , and if that fails then marginalize one’s critics, blame malevolent external forces, furiously virtue signal and if all else fails, stake a claim on victimhood,
Soon a large number of mortgage fraudsters and their bank enablers will be forced to accept the fact ” that actions have consequences”.
Nostradamus predicts, that with the pull back in bank liquidity, mortgage fraud will soon prove to be monumental in scope. S.O.S. send lawyers, guns and money, lots of tax payers money.
Fraudsters and bank enablers say hello to Captain Davey Jones down below.
For curious minds, Nostradamus poses a question, which city in Ontario will hold the distinction of being recognized as the epicentre for mortgage fraud? I will give you a hint, it starts with the letter “B”.

#120 illusion on 03.11.18 at 10:03 pm

“So I guess we get the leaders we deserve. And you didn’t deserve me.” -GT

People are forced to choose best of the worst options they are presented.
Perhaps, you are too good to be a-bad-option !

#121 Lost...but not leased on 03.11.18 at 10:04 pm

Re: Ontario Premier

On behalf of Western Canada…we are honoured that Orville Redenbacher’s twin is in charge of Canada’s 2nd most fatuous province.

#122 Hiding On the Backstreets on 03.11.18 at 10:11 pm

@ #103 Samson Nights on 03.11.18 at 9:05 pm

Now tell us how T2 and Wynne will be our saviours.

#123 John Crosbie on 03.11.18 at 10:17 pm

But Garth, you were the chosen one!

#124 joblo on 03.11.18 at 10:17 pm

“Sadly, nobody cares. Politicians are elected by people who (a) vote for more, or (b) vote against the last bums. Nobody goes to the polls to reduce spending, eliminate deficits, pay down debt or reduce the size of government. Part of the reason is that no politician ever campaigns on such a pledge. It’s why I sucked so badly at being in public life.”
“So I guess we get the leaders we deserve. And you didn’t deserve me.”

Word Garth

#125 broader mind on 03.11.18 at 10:28 pm

Good to see my sense of humor is not lost on some.

#126 ben on 03.11.18 at 10:29 pm

Adrian- thx for saving me the typing regarding”household” budget

Another comment:
> We are not insane enough to allow name recognition to control our vote
Trudeau.

#127 Karma on 03.11.18 at 10:31 pm

#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm
“What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom? The pulpit pounders are largely extinct, and free thinking is the new reality for most. Nobody chooses their DNA, so if they lean away from the norm, why treat them like freaks? Honestly, you can’t catch it, unlike STDs. There are millions of people, particularly in Africa, who would be alive today if sex-ed was taught more widely. Con thinking is mostly harmless, but this one is unjustifiable on any level. But I can forgive them, for they know not what they do not know.”

The issue is some people think it is unethical to promote the idea of giving drugs to children if they are unsure of their gender matches their sex at birth. Some people think they don’t know enough about themselves to make decisions that could lead to permanent issues, when their uncertainty could just be temporary.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/transgender-children-getting-more-drug-hormone-treatments-1.1294699

#128 Stephane Bergeron on 03.11.18 at 10:34 pm

Dont know how many on here can say this. But I voted for you on that day. (truth, your speech was great) No longer in Ontario. Here in Quebec we have a totally different set of problems..

#129 The real Kip on 03.11.18 at 10:37 pm

“Nobody goes to the polls to reduce spending, eliminate deficits, pay down debt or reduce the size of government.”

Tim Hudac did and lost. Hudac went into the last provincial election flying high in the polls before he threatened to fire 100,000 people if elected. The electorate promptly fired Tim.

Doug Ford needs to to be careful that mouth of his doesn’t write a cheque that his ass can’t cash.

#130 Joseph R. on 03.11.18 at 10:54 pm

#41 cecil1 on 03.11.18 at 6:36 pm

“A slave paid 10% in tax”

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How did slaves pay taxes? To pay taxes, you need a receive a wage first…

#131 the Jaguar on 03.11.18 at 10:55 pm

‘All politics is local’. Tip O’Neil. Well said. And the Jag would add that this country we live in is a big landscape, so no wonder there might be diversity of thought or opinion. We like to make reference to ourselves in a greater context as ‘Canadians’. But our hearts are tied to home, and if the province of Alberta were trapped in a burning building, I will, with many others, rush back in to save her. It’s about place. History. Family. My province, which is my real country. Never was there a better example of this than this past summer, when the Prince of Wales Hotel was under threat in Waterton Park. Thank you again, City of Calgary firefighters if any of you are readers of this blog.
Best wishes to the province of Ontario. Hope your choices work out for you. I would not wish to exchange
Rachel Notley for Doug Ford. While I have never voted NDP, and was surprised like many when she was elected, she has been stalwart in difficult times. She has been severely tested. Still standing. Still fighting every day for this province. I am very proud of her.

#132 Doug in London on 03.11.18 at 11:09 pm

Yes, this Doug Ford guy could be Ontario’s next premier but I have one question. Why can’t the Conservatives, provincial or federal, get an more sensible old style Conservative like Brian Mulroney, Joe Clark, Ralph Klein, or Mike Harris?

#133 Ponzius Pilatus on 03.11.18 at 11:22 pm

And I thought this was blog about financial and economic issues.
Silly me.

#134 MF on 03.11.18 at 11:29 pm

Ford will win. The reason is exactly as Garth said: the Liberals are tired and have baggage. I never hear anyone say anything positive about Wynne. Nothing. Ever.

The issue of debt is on the radar for a lot of voters. As is the sex education issue.

I actually see a landslide for Ford.

MF

#135 MF on 03.11.18 at 11:32 pm

The weed legalization makes me sick too, but isn’t that a federal issue?

MF

#136 fishman on 03.11.18 at 11:34 pm

Thats a new take on deficit financing by Adrian #65 post. ” Capitalism needs sovereign deficits”. I first heard of this in a UBC economics class in 1970. Then the prof said that government deficits didn’t matter because ” You owe the money to yourself.” I grew up in a little mining town that had CBC radio but not CBC TV. Pretty unsophisticated kid. I told the prof right there & then I can’t comprehend this concept. 2017 & I still can”t. It must be right, I guess, cause its worked pretty good so far.

#137 lawnboy on 03.11.18 at 11:40 pm

#42 calgaryfine
Drive 10 mins west to Dundas, West Hamilton, Ancaster.

#138 Dolce Vita on 03.11.18 at 11:48 pm

Yup, Ontario does its once every 4 year bloodletting then back to business.

Will make for some entertaining reading in the weeks to come.

I’m all for it.

Good you got the ball rolling today Garth.

#139 Darren on 03.11.18 at 11:48 pm

Yes, yes I do remember the Forward Backward Party. (Hat tip to Alan Fotheringham)

#140 yvrmc on 03.11.18 at 11:57 pm

Re # 81 …. are you kidding ?! How the hell do you think Mr. Potato Head got elected. Canadians are just that stupid and he is prima facie evidence of that….

#141 RG on 03.11.18 at 11:58 pm

Can not stand one more day of Wynnetario!
I will hold my nose and vote PC still… and then start praying for the long gone centrist mindsets!

#142 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 11:59 pm

#126 Karma on 03.11.18 at 10:31 pm

#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm
“What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom?

The issue is some people think it is unethical to promote the idea of giving drugs to children if they are unsure of their gender matches their sex at birth. Some people think they don’t know enough about themselves to make decisions that could lead to permanent issues, when their uncertainty could just be temporary.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/transgender-children-getting-more-drug-hormone-treatments-1.1294699

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Thanks for the link, I actually found it very informative.
So, for the other 99995/100000 parents :
“What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom?

#143 Tccontrarian on 03.11.18 at 11:59 pm

A nice summary of the reasons I’m buying gold.

TCC

#144 Big Kahuna on 03.12.18 at 12:03 am

One thing is for sure-the dirty MSM is going to go after Ford with a vengeance-look at how they treat Trump-3 weeks ago Trump was leading us into nuclear war-now he is selling us out to North Korea-expect the same treatment of Ford.

#145 Bottoms_Up on 03.12.18 at 12:06 am

Garth—love the flat tax idea.

Can you run in the upcoming provincial election?

#146 Hamsterwheelie on 03.12.18 at 12:31 am

It amazes me every time that there are people who would vote a politician in based on their ‘vote me in’ lies vs their track record of serving a community, responsible public engagement or history of integrity.
Certainly I would look the other way if an otherwise upstanding citizen, a responsible public figure with a history or public service

#147 Darren on 03.12.18 at 12:33 am

Tonight I learned that greaterfool.ca has a code word for me. Whenever he says ‘nobody’ it is me of which he speaks….

#148 Eyestrain on 03.12.18 at 12:41 am

#57 Howard on 03.11.18 at 7:21 pm
#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm
What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom? .
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I went through the Ontario public school system in the 90s. Sex Ed included the necessities. .
The Liberals’ socially engineered departure from this common sense approach, forcing borderline pornographic material on even younger children, is just despicable, as was their characterization of everyone who had concerns as being sex-phobic religious nuts. They overreached, on this and so many other issues.
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Only one issue at a time. “Borderline” is difficult to interpret, but I seriously doubt that anything presented in an elementary school could be considered pornographic. I know literally hundreds of elementary school teachers, (only one intimately) and the vast majority are squarer than Stan Brooks. Your child’s virtue is safe while at school, but maybe put a padlock on their phone and home computer.

#63 Hans
I think it’s gone a whole lot more further than people realize. Take a look at a school calendar and you will get a taste of what’s going on in education. Every month is labelled with a social justice cause, …More math and reading….

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The topic was sex, but today’s social justice is just yesterday’s inhumanities. Strongly agree on the math and reading. Call your child’s principal and tell him low math scores won’t get him into a corner office at the Board HQ. Call the super’ and say the same. They love hearing from stakeholders.

#149 Hamsterwheelie on 03.12.18 at 12:47 am

…was running but had a drug dealing past. In this case we have a useless, clueless, unsteady and completely unqualified man throwing his hat in just to coast in on populist votes. Trying not to ramble here, but I am mostly trying to express my disappointment in the level of candidates available as a direct result of the kind of circus tactics political parties are stooping to.
Try and vote with your head, look at candidates that are at least experienced in their abilities to make thoughtful and informed decisions, not led about by their personal gains from backroom deals and profits.
Choosing a candidate based on the fact you don’t like gender equality, don’t like millenials, think the world is too soft these days or that you ‘have to take care of other families’ is not voting for a better place to live work and raise a family, its voting for the class clown with the carnival bark. Vote in a clown and suffer the consequences of having a rat bag at the helm of your ship, don’t be surprised when it runs aground repeatedly.

#150 SoggyShorts on 03.12.18 at 1:10 am

#48 Stan Brooks on 03.11.18 at 7:00 pm
#18 Climate change on 03.11.18 at 5:56 pm
OH the climate change.
Yes, it’s changing, we’re going into”grand solar minimum” a mini ice age that should last between 30 70 years.

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https://steemit.com/news/@tftproject/eye-opening-study-predicts-solar-cycle-will-cause-a-mini-ice-age-as-early-as-2020

It seems we need to get used to cold winters.

Are there historical record of growing wheat in the prairies before the last prolonged sunspot minimum
(the Maunder Minimum occurred between 1645 and 1715 when very few sunspots were observed)?

No.

Just start observing the weather patterns in the next few years. In the last 3 there was definitely some cooling.
The good news is that it will be over by 2050.
Just in time for T3 to come into power?

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Life tip: If you aren’t a scientist yourself, and hear something or read one article that confirms your own thoughts already, follow it up with a google search for:
“The thing that I think I know myth
Do NOT simply search for
“Proof of thing that I think I know”

This “mini ice age” myth has been debunked all over every time it comes up, but by then the damage is done and morons have spread it like a virus among others who are equally unwilling to challenge their own beliefs.
Just look at how much damage was done by that antivaxer paper. That doctor got off easy by being stripped of his license, I think he should be charged as a mass murderer or war criminal.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jan/09/the-imminent-mini-ice-age-myth-is-back-and-its-still-wrong

#151 Millenial1982 on 03.12.18 at 1:35 am

Ford’s got this. Not even Wynee’s spending can buy her the votes. The people will be voting against Wynee.

#152 Flat Earth Society on 03.12.18 at 1:55 am

I have even more proof that you don’t know pretty much anything about what you think you know.

Everybody understands Einstein’s equation: E=mc^2 right? Or at least you think you do. And we all know it explains nuclear physics right? Well, you are wrong.

E (energy) in what measure? Joules? Whats? BTU? Horsepower?

m = mass but in what? Kilograms? Pounds? Number of rocks?

c = speed of light but in what? Mph? Kph? Meters per second? Knots?

Squared I think anyone who can understand math understand it’s c times c, whatever c is.

https://www.britannica.com/science/E-mc2-equation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence

Unless you are floating around 145-160 IQ, you probably don’t even understand what you think you know. And even then I’m not sure you haven’t just gotten caught up in mathematical extrapolations.

#153 Smoking Man on 03.12.18 at 2:06 am

Globalism on the ropes. This is were things get nasty.
Laura Southern detained in London going to a free speech event.

Maniacs . The Big back fire soon.

#154 rc99ar on 03.12.18 at 2:39 am

Curious why I’ve never seen a serious discussion about debt restructuring or default in Ontario. Detroit debt per citizen at bankruptcy was about the same as Ontario’s now. I presume Ontario’s greater tangible assets are the reason.

#155 Young Progressive and Angry on 03.12.18 at 4:11 am

“The cons have drifted off into a narrower social agenda while the libs slid radically left. Supported by a Millennial penchant for gender and same-sex equality, indigenous rights, the climate and narrowing the income gap, Liberals are turning into Dippers.”

I disagree: the Liberals have always been a populist party, and believe it / like it or not (I like it very much) those are now the values of the majority.

”Meanwhile public debt, over-consumption, climate change, the wealth gap and a retirement crisis fester while we diddle over the arcane.”

If “the arcane” refers to the above-mentioned “radically left” values then (a) gender and same sex equality don’t cost a dime, and (b) on climate change the economic leaders of the world (Germany, California, China) are leaving us in the dust with their renewable energy plans. Unfortunately the Liberal green energy plan was terribly executed and now the average Ontarian incorrectly believes environmental and economic energy sustainability are mutually exclusive.

Not to say the Liberal debt and deficits are excusable – as a young Ontarian they terrify me.

The PCs looked like they had smartened up and Ontario could have had a premier with somewhat modern social values who stood a chance at reducing the red. Instead they are running another angry white man who will dog whistle the bigots and has no real platform that I can identify. Total failure in my eyes. We can only hope that Doug gets pummeled and maybe in 4 years the PCs will have finally learned their lesson. Although by then China will totally own us.

#156 JRT on 03.12.18 at 5:48 am

The promises of today are the taxes of tomorrow.
William Lyon McKenzie King.

I remember the 80’s when the govt. was raising taxes and increasing spending at the same time. The economy sucked, especially in B.C. According toToronto’s National Newspaper, the economy was doing great. When the real estate bubble crashed in Toronto the economy was doing bad, even though most of Canada was getting out of the recession, ( a depression in reality).

#157 Stone on 03.12.18 at 6:06 am

#66 bsallergy on 03.11.18 at 7:54 pm
Garth, are the majority of your readers nuts?

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Was that a question or a statement? LOL

#158 Howard on 03.12.18 at 6:58 am

#154 Young Progressive and Angry on 03.12.18 at 4:11 am

I disagree: the Liberals have always been a populist party, and believe it / like it or not (I like it very much) those are now the values of the majority.

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You believe a majority of citizens favour teaching pornography to kindergarteners via Premier Orville Redenbacher’s sex indoctrination curriculum?

Are you ever in for a surprise. Try expanding your social circle beyond people with man-buns.

#159 R Vanzo on 03.12.18 at 7:03 am

The problem is: politicians are elected by people who pay very little or no income tax and actually use way more in services than they pay in. Therefore they have no stake in the game.

#160 DRew on 03.12.18 at 7:45 am

why does debt exist when we control the printing press and why have we not experience inflation with all the money printing since 2008?

perhaps printing money does not always mean inflation, and if so, why aren’t we doing more of it?

#161 JP Superstar on 03.12.18 at 7:49 am

#89 Flat Earth Society on 03.11.18 at 8:30 pm

I think I’ve found a guy who can explain the problem:
I’ve been watching a number of Jordan Peterson’s videos and so have a lot of other people …….

One of the points he makes is that sending 18 year-olds out to be activists is unconscionable. $15/hour! Universal Income! Tax the rich! But they don’t know anything yet. Maybe they will still believe all those things when they are 40 but I doubt it.
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Pop-psych quiz:
Sending an 18 year old into combat for his nation is OK, but allowing him/her to choose their own Crusades is wrong. Explain your answer.
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Your last take-home #151:
Everybody understands Einstein’s equation: E=mc^2 right? Or at least you think you do. And we all know it explains nuclear physics right? Well, you are wrong.
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Physics quiz:
Einstein’s equation, E=mc^2 explains:

A. Everything you ever wanted to know about nuclear physics but were afraid of.
B. How energy and mass are related in SI units.

Hint: B

#162 SamJ on 03.12.18 at 8:35 am

who is the country indebted to?

#163 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 9:01 am

#103 Samson Nights on 03.11.18 at 9:05 pm

Keep in mind it was right-wing ideology in the late 80’s and early 90’s that initiated the out-sourcing and off-shoring of much of Ontario’s manufacturing sector, resulting in a permanent gutting of the provincial tax base.
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Over 350,000 jobs gone (and counting) since the Libs took over in 2003.

But lets blame the Cons who were in office 30 years ago, and hope everyone reading this tripe is dumb as a rock.

#164 Russ on 03.12.18 at 9:02 am

Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.11.18 at 7:56 pm

#1 Dee sez:

“It worries me that all the PC candidates–Ford included–vowed to get rid of the carbon tax while keeping all the spending the carbon tax was going to pay for.

Tax cuts with infinite spending. If you thought the Liberal deficits were bad, hoo boy here we go.”
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So the carbon tax IS a tax grab then? So much for being “revenue neutral”.
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You know it.
BC carbon tax attempted to be revenue neutral, in the beginning, before all the escalating increases.

We even pay GST on the BC carbon tax.
Is there such thing as a fair tax?

#165 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 9:03 am

#104 armpit on 03.11.18 at 9:06 pm

Perhaps a lot of Libs purchased Cons memberships just to vote FORD in????
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Wouldn’t surprise me one bit after what they did to Patrick Brown.

#166 China, Lada, Etcetera on 03.12.18 at 9:06 am

In China, the National People’s Congress voted overwhelmingly to allow a change to the constitution that will allow President Xi Jinping to rule for life. Out of 2,964 ballots, just two delegates voted against the move and three abstained. That’s how you do it folks!

In Russia, seniors have taken to Youtube to protest the upcoming “election” of President Vladimir Putin, whose recent ice-bath exorcism failed completely.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/twerking-russian-seniors-turn-their-youtube-fame-into-election-protest-1.4553387

In America, President Donald Trump intimated that executing drug pushers might not be a bad idea. Canada expects an uptick in refugee claims from US physicians.

In Canada, the Province of Ontario took one small step to the right, and possibly a giant leap backwards. Liberals are hopeful that Doug Ford will visit the US soon.

#167 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 9:14 am

#110 Howard on 03.11.18 at 9:18 pm
#75 -=jwk=- on 03.11.18 at 8:07 pm
So he sold weed in his 20s. File this under “Who cares?”.

At least he was enterprising. How did T2 spend his 20s?

Conservatives, the law and order party, the war on drugs party, the ‘do the crime, serve the time’ party, the anti-MJ party, the gateway drug party.. Oh, wait Ford’s not a liberal, doesn’t count. Carry on.

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Many of us who are nominally conservative are of a libertarian bent. I couldn’t care less about drug use and would be fine with legalizing everything as long as taxpayers do not have to foot the bill for addiction treatment. I do not believe in the MJ gateway drug theory and did not support Harper’s overly tough on crime stuff.

You fail to realize that the Doug Fords of the world are now the centre and his supporters are not all conservative. He’s a populist not a right-winger. You leftists overreached everywhere in Canada and now it’s time for the pendulum to swing back a bit.
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I find a lot of lefties seem to be stuck in time these days. I too could give a flying **** about 90% of the SJW crap **provided I am not paying for it**. I’m about as silver backed a Neandercon you’ve ever met, and have the bloody knuckles to prove it.

I have a good laugh whenever a seriously behind the times left winger starts challenging all of rightwingdom on gay marriage, abortion, and other rigidly settled issues no one has given a crap about in decades.

#168 Tater on 03.12.18 at 9:16 am

#57 Howard on 03.11.18 at 7:21 pm
#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm
What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom? The pulpit pounders are largely extinct, and free thinking is the new reality for most. Nobody chooses their DNA, so if they lean away from the norm, why treat them like freaks? Honestly, you can’t catch it, unlike STDs. There are millions of people, particularly in Africa, who would be alive today if sex-ed was taught more widely. Con thinking is mostly harmless, but this one is unjustifiable on any level. But I can forgive them, for they know not what they do not know.

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I went through the Ontario public school system in the 90s.

Sex Ed included the necessities. Infections and pregnancy, and how to prevent both. It covered everything a 14-year old needed to know to protect himself or herself. It was a common sense approach and it was effective; it isn’t as if Ontario is known for high term pregnancy or STI outbreaks in highschools.

The Liberals’ socially engineered departure from this common sense approach, forcing borderline pornographic material on even younger children, is just despicable, as was their characterization of everyone who had concerns as being sex-phobic religious nuts. They overreached, on this and so many other issues. and the decade-long counterpunch begins in June.
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Oh look, we found the guy who hasn’t read the curriculum or spoken to an actual teacher about it.* He gets his info from Facebook. The Idiocracy is real.

*You can tell this is true because he doesn’t give a single source, or example of the “borderline pornographic material”

#169 NYCer on 03.12.18 at 9:17 am

Question for Garth or other commenters:

How do you feel about the public assets or essentials like Electricity or TTC etc? Should we be keeping it government owned or privatized?

I thought Liberals messed up when they sold Hydro One and I wonder what Conservative plan to do.

#170 Victor V on 03.12.18 at 9:18 am

‘Fear and uncertainty’: Out-of-province homebuyers could rush to sell if B.C. slaps speculation tax

http://nationalpost.com/personal-finance/mortgages-real-estate/fear-and-uncertainty-out-of-province-homebuyers-could-rush-to-sell-if-b-c-slaps-speculation-tax/wcm

#171 Victor V on 03.12.18 at 9:21 am

Correct link: http://nationalpost.com/personal-finance/mortgages-real-estate/fear-and-uncertainty-out-of-province-homebuyers-could-rush-to-sell-if-b-c-slaps-speculation-tax/wcm/4675f794-1aa3-4953-bf92-503017c3aecd

#172 james on 03.12.18 at 9:23 am

If Doug Ford was really smart, and I don’t think he is a dumb ass like the goofy old guy south of the 49th he would surround himself with the people he just beat in the PC election. They are not low brow people but rather quite intelligent woman. If he can get them on board and it appears that could be the case then he has just put a wooden stake through Wynnes heart and sent her back where she belongs which is undeniably not in politics.

#173 Victor V on 03.12.18 at 9:23 am

https://www.bnn.ca/global-stocks-surge-amid-strong-u-s-jobs-data-1.1024160

LONDON – World stocks surged to a two-week high on Monday after strong U.S. jobs data at the end of last week helped take the edge off investors’ concerns about the potential outbreak of trade war between the United States and other major economies.

European shares shot up across the board, following their Asian counterparts, while emerging market currencies strengthened as investors bought up so-called riskier assets and sold “safe haven” securities such as gold and government bonds.

Markets have been cheering Friday’s U.S. non-farm payrolls data which showed a hefty 313,000 rise in jobs, but also revealed that annual growth in average hourly earnings had slowed to 2.6 per cent after spiking in January.

#174 Victor V on 03.12.18 at 9:25 am

PCs would win next Ontario election despite voters’ dislike of Doug Ford, poll finds

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/03/12/pcs-would-win-next-ontario-election-despite-voters-dislike-of-doug-ford-poll-finds.html

#175 james on 03.12.18 at 9:26 am

A Ford win in June therefore taking the Libs and their corruption out of office could also indicate the slow demise of Selfie Boy and his bag of cronies up on the hill. This is a good path for a return to sensible ethical spending. Hopefully, but then again politicians……………..

#176 dharma bum on 03.12.18 at 9:28 am

#54 Terry

“We are consumers….. we consume to live….that’s the way it is.”
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Uhhh…actually, we live to consume.

#177 Stan Brooks on 03.12.18 at 9:30 am

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-nafta-making-firms-wary-094836296.html

Not a word on his stupid policies. blame somebody else.

so liebaral.

#178 Smoking Man on 03.12.18 at 9:35 am

Globalist in an all out war to silence conservative voices.
UK is denying entrance by popular conservative voices.

Medium recently erased treasure trove of articles from well known conservative voices in a massive purge.

A month later a new startup takes hold. Patrion. If currently own shares of Twitter Facebook Google know that some serious competitors are coming on line fast.

Even T2 is putting huge pressure on Facebook to curtail all the voices that thinks he’s an idiot. Should be a free market on ideas. And the market will create it.

#179 dosouth on 03.12.18 at 9:37 am

Now the liberals honeymoon is over federally maybe we might get some real policies put in place…then again maybe pigs will fly.

Best thing about all these populist agendas is the uncertainty which = entertainment for our tax dollars, even if we don’t have a say anymore where they are spent.

#180 Rooster on 03.12.18 at 9:56 am

#131 Doug in London on 03.11.18 at 11:09 pm

Yes, this Doug Ford guy could be Ontario’s next premier but I have one question. Why can’t the Conservatives, provincial or federal, get an more sensible old style Conservative like Brian Mulroney, Joe Clark, Ralph Klein, or Mike Harris?
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Just a guess, but in times of upheaval we are slow to adapt, and reason goes out the window.

https://youtu.be/LgCpkCczvMQ

#181 Howard on 03.12.18 at 10:03 am

#166 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 9:14 am

I agree with you except on abortion. I put that in a separate category from all the other SJW issues since it does involve taking a life. I don’t think it’s worthwhile to reopen the debate but it would be nice if the abortionist Left wouldn’t go hysterical whenever someone suggests that it’s morally reprehensible to kill a 8.5 month-old fetus because the parents discover the baby has a cleft palate. Such a scenario is entirely legal in Canada and does occur. Not often, but it happens.

#182 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 10:03 am

#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm

What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom?

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The blatantly obvious answer to this question is “None of your business”. Folks had issues with it, that’s all you get to know.

Don’t matter if you agree or not.
Don’t matter if you like it or not.
Don’t matter what you think is best.
Don’t matter what you think is right.

Similarly, those that don’t like the curriculum can just pull their kids out of the public system and simply enroll them in a private school, or home school them – just like a great many of the Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Hindu etc… parents did.

It probably would have been better for everyone if Wynne could have just kept her nose out of other peoples business.

That’s asking too much obviously.

#183 Eyestrain on 03.12.18 at 10:08 am

#166 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 9:14 am
………
Many of us who are nominally conservative are of a libertarian bent…….
I have a good laugh whenever a seriously behind the times left winger starts challenging all of rightwingdom on gay marriage, abortion, and other rigidly settled issues no one has given a crap about in decades.
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Could we get that in writing?

#184 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 10:15 am

#168 NYCer on 03.12.18 at 9:17 am
Question for Garth or other commenters:

How do you feel about the public assets or essentials like Electricity or TTC etc? Should we be keeping it government owned or privatized?

I thought Liberals messed up when they sold Hydro One and I wonder what Conservative plan to do.
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IMHO, you never privatize an essential service like Hydro where folks can’t say no and go without. There are not enough players in the Ontario electricity “market”, so it is an effective monopoly – which makes it even more essential to never privatize. You get ENRON Pt2 when you do stuff like that.

At least you can vote the politicians out.

Con’s can’t do jack about it as Wynne already sold off the shares, it’s a done deal. Ontario taxpayers own just under half the grid now. The only thing the Cons could do is put a stop to the continuing sale up to 60% as Wynne had planned to do.

#185 Corey Muller on 03.12.18 at 10:15 am

I would have voted for you!

#186 SimplyPut7 on 03.12.18 at 10:32 am

I think Ford will win, a bit too easily, I might add.

People overestimate how big Fordnation is and how far it extends outside of Toronto.

Also, a lot of the new immigrants settling in Ontario are very conservative and have views that are more in line with Tanya Granic Allen than say KW or the NDP.

We may see nearly a decade of Trump and Ford.

#187 China, Hong Kong, Canada on 03.12.18 at 10:35 am

a report just out that these 3 have the greatest of a banking crisis (The Financial Post)

yikes!

#188 Eyestrain on 03.12.18 at 10:36 am

#181 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 10:03 am
#40 Eyestrain on 03.11.18 at 6:33 pm
What exactly is the hang-up with S.E.X. in the classroom?

_______________________________

The blatantly obvious answer to this question is “None of your business”. Folks had issues with it, that’s all you get to know.

Don’t matter if you agree or not.
Don’t matter if you like it or not.
Don’t matter what you think is best.
Don’t matter what you think is right.

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So that is what defines a small “c” Con ?
Teaching the “V”-word is a victory because “C” means cowardice.
Thank God for the moral minority.

#189 Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.12.18 at 10:42 am

#166 IHTCD9 sez:

“I find a lot of lefties seem to be stuck in time these days. I too could give a flying **** about 90% of the SJW crap **provided I am not paying for it**. I’m about as silver backed a Neandercon you’ve ever met, and have the bloody knuckles to prove it. ”
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You ARE my brother from another mother! Well said.

#190 Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.12.18 at 10:47 am

#171 james sez:

“If Doug Ford was really smart, and I don’t think he is a dumb ass like the goofy old guy south of the 49th he would surround himself with the people he just beat in the PC election. They are not low brow people but rather quite intelligent woman. If he can get them on board and it appears that could be the case then he has just put a wooden stake through Wynnes heart and sent her back where she belongs which is undeniably not in politics.”

I think a deal has already been reached with Elliot. Attorney General perhaps?

Bring Mulroney in as Minister of Finance, and as the real bee in the SJW’s bonnet, Granic-Allen as Minister of Education.

Done deals all.

#191 Midnights on 03.12.18 at 10:57 am

Canada among three economies in world most at risk of banking crisis, BIS warns…

http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/china-banking-crisis-warning-signal-still-flashing-bis-says-1

#192 Dupcheck on 03.12.18 at 11:15 am

It is happening. The wage increase effect in Ontario is now being felt across the consumer stores. We were at Costco last night and a lot of their pricing is now up. For example a 6 pack of white chunk tuna was $14.99, i could not believe it. It used to be $11.99…

So the wage increase:

1. “so Called Helped” the poor get back to the same level where they were before the wages. (give some now and take some later in form of higher prices)
2. Hurt the Middle Class by taking away in price increases, since they did not see any benefit from min wage increase.
3. Businesses might not feel most of this, since they find ways to get their loses back by increasing the prices.

So there you have it! The money will always trickle back to the top, as the middle class shrinks and poor have the short term illusion of making more.

#193 Ezzy on 03.12.18 at 11:21 am

#26 Sunny Day Today on 03.11.18 at 6:04 pm

Yes, older PC men shouting, telling you what to do, and etc being replaced by older Liberal women shouting, telling you what to do, and etc. Nothing’s changed, really. Politicians are always the same, their skin, gender, sex, culture, and ethnicity mean nothing to that fact. Every so often you get one that is different, they’re usually ruined or leave early.

#194 A J on 03.12.18 at 11:35 am

#180 Howard
*Shaking my head* What a disgusting lie. That’s not true AT ALL.

Doug Ford will win. He’ll win because the progressive vote will be split between the NDP and the Liberals. There is no doubt in my mind he’ll be the next Premier. But get ready for the scandals. That family is full of them and the other parties will be digging hard and fast to expose them. I know most of you Cons don’t care about stuff like that, so I know it won’t change your vote. But, get ready for ’em.

The thing that separates most Cons and Libs is the Cons just want to win by any means necessary, and the Libs just want to make sure everyone has equal rights. So spout your SJW stuff all you want, at least they stand for something other than posturing and ego.

#195 Howard on 03.12.18 at 11:43 am

#193 A J on 03.12.18 at 11:35 am

It isn’t a lie. Haven’t you heard? Canada has no abortion law. It is unique in the Western world that way. It is legal for parents to abort a nearly-born baby for cosmetic reasons – and at taxpayer expense, natch. This is what your side wanted. Why so angry? You won that battle. Are you going to take away our right to simply point out the state of affairs?

I also am unaware which “equal rights” Ontarians have now that they didn’t have before Wynne or T2.

#196 Eks dee Siple on 03.12.18 at 11:46 am

Congrats to IHTCD9 for dumbest post of the day so far (silverback comment), and that was a difficult achievement with Howard spouting his ignorant strawman logic all over the blog today. Just waiting for nitro to chime in with his frequent naïveté. The so-called PC Party of Ontario just elected a drug-dealer to lead them. ’nuff said. LOL. OMG. SMH.

#197 Oft deleted much maligned stock.picker on 03.12.18 at 12:11 pm

New Zealand band “foreigners” buying real estate to stop the rampant flood of money beating out locals…..smart.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-12/the-rich-aren-t-happy-new-zealand-is-banning-foreign-boltholes

#198 Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.12.18 at 12:16 pm

@193 A J and 195 Eks-

There, there dears, the Bogeyman doesn’t exist.

#199 A J on 03.12.18 at 12:18 pm

#194 Howard

Please don’t say “my side”. You have no idea what my political leanings are. I’m more centrist than you’d think. I don’t want to be put on sides please and thank you.

And saying a baby can be aborted at 8.5 months for “cosmetic reasons” is a complete fabrication. Aborting a baby that late in a term would only be done for severe reasons, like saving the mother’s life. Show me one example of someone aborting a baby at 8.5 months for cosmetic reasons and I’ll concede this debate. Otherwise, you’re spouting complete falsehoods.

#200 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 12:21 pm

#180 Howard on 03.12.18 at 10:03 am
#166 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 9:14 am

I agree with you except on abortion. I put that in a separate category from all the other SJW issues since it does involve taking a life. I don’t think it’s worthwhile to reopen the debate but it would be nice if the abortionist Left wouldn’t go hysterical whenever someone suggests that it’s morally reprehensible to kill a 8.5 month-old fetus because the parents discover the baby has a cleft palate. Such a scenario is entirely legal in Canada and does occur. Not often, but it happens.
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I do in fact believe abortion is murder, I just meant that if folks were to successfully lobby the government for it, I don’t care that it becomes legal. It’s on them if they should take this route. The Women have a choice, they step into pure evil willingly, or not.

IMHO, my responsibility is to my own actions. Those who are free to take a life in this manner will have to deal with what comes later on down the road.

There are consequences to actions, and abortion has horrible, sometimes unbearable consequences. I can’t do anything to help folks like these.

But the legalization of it doesn’t grate on me at all.

Don’t ask me to pay for it though.

#201 Polozified on 03.12.18 at 12:21 pm

Doug Ford should have been a backbench nobody like his father before him.

The problem is that the real star of Ford Nation, Rob, burned out too soon and Doug is hitching onto the remnants.

#202 Robert on 03.12.18 at 12:26 pm

Growing debt levels put Canada’s credit markets at risk, central bank body warns

“A new report from The Bank for International Settlements, which is owned by 60 central banks, looks at four measures that are designed to raise early alarms before financial vulnerabilities may emerge. In the latest review, two of those measures – Canada’s credit-to-GDP gap and its total debt-service ratio – are coded red, meaning they exceed a threshold that points to a higher risk of a banking crisis in the coming years.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/growing-debt-levels-put-canadas-credit-markets-at-risk-report-says/article38269445/

#203 Alberta Ed on 03.12.18 at 12:29 pm

Politicians (present company excepted) are like diapers. They need frequent changing.

#204 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 12:32 pm

#193 A J on 03.12.18 at 11:35 am

*Shaking my head* What a disgusting lie. That’s not true AT ALL.
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I am pleased to hear that you think aborting fetuses because of a disability is reprehensible.

I am sad to point you to some reading indicating that Howard is correct. Downs Syndrome babies too.

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/abortions-for-some-but-not-all-left-footed-braking-and-regret-over-raising-a-secular-child-1.3536556/if-abortion-based-on-gender-is-wrong-so-is-abortion-based-on-disability-u-of-c-prof-1.3536619

Wolbring, an ableism and disability studies scholar at the University of Calgary’s Cummings School of Medicine, says the logic is inconsistent and points out that fetuses with conditions like cleft palate or Down’s Syndrome are aborted more often than not.

“We’re selecting, through ultrasound, whether you have arms and legs — termination rate is roughly around 90-95%. Cleft palate has a high termination rate. Down’s Syndrome, we all know has a termination rate of 90%.

#205 Grey Dog on 03.12.18 at 12:32 pm

131 Doug in London
Mike Harris is the reason I had to STOP voting CONSERVATIVE!!!

He was the primary cause of SARS spreading. Remember he laid off all those nurses dedicated to working full time in one hospital? Forcing them to work in a couple of hospitals to get their full complement of hours to feed their families. THAT was how this life threatening disease spread so quickly in Southern Ontario.

Plus he was always picking a fight with the teachers. Taught students to totally disrespect teachers.

Mike Harris Golf Pro was one mean nasty guy.

#206 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 12:41 pm

#198 A J on 03.12.18 at 12:18 pm

And saying a baby can be aborted at 8.5 months for “cosmetic reasons” is a complete fabrication. Aborting a baby that late in a term would only be done for severe reasons, like saving the mother’s life. Show me one example of someone aborting a baby at 8.5 months for cosmetic reasons and I’ll concede this debate.
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This one is dangerously close to just that.

35 weeks, for birth defects.

Lots of “may” “might” “could” “likely”

Mothers life was never in danger.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/montreal-woman-who-had-late-abortion-says-she-made-the-right-decision

#207 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 12:44 pm

#195 Eks dee Siple on 03.12.18 at 11:46 am
Congrats to IHTCD9 for dumbest post of the day so far (silverback comment),
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Thanks, I put it together just for you.

#208 A J on 03.12.18 at 12:44 pm

“‘Fear and uncertainty’: Out-of-province homebuyers could rush to sell if B.C. slaps speculation tax”

http://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/mortgages-real-estate/fear-and-uncertainty-out-of-province-homebuyers-could-rush-to-sell-if-b-c-slaps-speculation-tax

#209 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 12:51 pm

#193 A J on 03.12.18 at 11:35 am

But get ready for the scandals.

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Us Ontarians have become well calloused against government scandals over the last 15 years.

I doubt Doug could ever top Wynne in the scandal dept.

I also doubt we will get to ever find out either.

#210 Radio Communist International on 03.12.18 at 12:58 pm

RCI is picking on small business owners again. Untie the right!

http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2018/03/12/insurance-investigation-car-crash/

#211 A J on 03.12.18 at 1:00 pm

#205 IHCTD9

I personally do not agree with late term abortion, but I would never take away a woman’s right to choose. Even if I think it’s a terrible thing. The key part in that article for me is this – “Requests for late-term abortions are rare in Canada, performed when the fetus is gravely or fatally impaired or the woman’s life is at risk. Less than one per cent of abortions take place after 20 weeks of gestation.” It’s very rare, and therefore, not something that I think needs to be re-opened for debate. If, for some reason, women en masse started having late term abortions for cosmetic reasons, then yeah, that’s not right and the topic should be re-opened. But this isn’t an epidemic, and shouldn’t be treated as such.

Also, yes, unfortunately the scandals in Ontario come fast and furious, and seem to be never-ending. I’m so weary of politics and politicians these days. It seems the corruption is never ending. But all political corners are going to play hardball. And the skeletons in Ford’s closet are about to come spilling out.

#212 Howard on 03.12.18 at 1:03 pm

#198 A J on 03.12.18 at 12:18 pm

From the statistics we have (and they are far from perfect since abortionists prevent from gathering detailed information), roughly 2% of abortions occur in the third trimester. So it isn’t common, but 2% isn’t exactly rare either. There have been hundreds of “failed” late-term abortions that result in live births. Unknown if the babies were then murdered post-birth (presumably abortionists would demand it).

There is nothing preventing late-term abortions for flimsy reasons in Canada. We are the only country in the developed world where this is true.

I don’t know why left-wing abortionists have an issue when people merely point out these inconvenient facts. I accept that the status quo on abortion in Canada is here to stay. But that doesn’t mean we have to pretend there aren’t sinister elements within that status quo.

#213 Dups on 03.12.18 at 1:05 pm

http://www.lfpress.com/2018/03/11/sensory-technologies-software-attracts-investment-global-customers

#214 Wrk.dover on 03.12.18 at 1:08 pm

So I guess we get the leaders we deserve. And you didn’t deserve me.

Garth

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Yes and Yes.

#215 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 1:12 pm

#191 Dupcheck on 03.12.18 at 11:15 am
It is happening. The wage increase effect in Ontario is now being felt across the consumer stores.
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Funny you should mention that. I took wife’s car in for an oil change. There was a sign saying roughly:

“Thanks to all loyal customers, due to the minimum wage hike of Jan 1, we have had to put prices up. We have NEVER paid our employees minimum wage. As of Jan 1 we have given all our employees a 4.00/hr. raise. We believe everyone should make a fair wage”

I asked how much the oil change went up – $9.00. An oil change takes about 10-15 minutes, 4-5 guys running 3 bays. Guys make 16.00-20.00 more TOTAL in an hour, Company makes 108.00 more in an hour. Minimum wage hike raises profits up to 92.00/hr.

…and no one can bitch because the company was just giving the guys what they deserved.

Genius.

#216 Sean on 03.12.18 at 1:14 pm

Ford, really? Does the PC party never learn their lesson. Sure Ford could win this election, but it would be a much easier path with Elliot. Even with all the money flying out of our pockets because of some pretty aggressive Liberal policies, I do not want Trump-lite in this province.

The millennials will be out to vote this time around, and they may even support the campaigns. A four year circus with that clown is not what we need, he got absolutely trashed by John Tory why would he get the leadership role of a province??? Crazy.

#217 RE_Investor on 03.12.18 at 1:18 pm

I started buying Real Estate once Mike Harris’s Common Sense Revolution took hold of Ontario’s fiscal disaster. Now that Doug Ford could lead Ontario, I think the investment environment will be more clearer to anyone looking for good returns on their hard earned money.

#218 A J on 03.12.18 at 1:24 pm

#211 Howard

Dude, again, putting me in a corner? Read what I wrote to IHCTD9. I’m not a “left-wing abortionist” (if that’s even a thing). Please, seriously, stop categorizing me. I’m just pointing out what I think is an incorrect statement. That’s it, that’s all.

#219 Lost....but not leased on 03.12.18 at 1:28 pm

On the SEX ED front…there is the classic “basic” information that most would agree fall under ” knowledge- is- power ” category and keeps youth out of compromising situations.

However, beyond that appears to be poorly disguised campaigns ie gender indentity…err confusion….. that are thinly veiled attacks on the family unit , which is simply part of the Communist platform.

Communist strategy allows the “comrades” free rein on things sexual…”.the carrot”…..but beyond that the “stick” of undying loyalty.

#220 Alistair McLaughlin on 03.12.18 at 1:29 pm

Check out the advice this guy is offering:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/don-t-let-fear-guide-you-into-costly-mortgage-mistake-and-here-s-how-to-do-better-1.3836268

Of course he offers up the standard argument: “The government can’t raise rates because people are too indebted”.

Telling the lemmings exactly what they want to hear as he lures them to the edge of a cliff.

#221 SunShowers on 03.12.18 at 1:31 pm

Despite our frequent differences of opinion, I’d like to see you back in politics.

Your willingness to slog it out with anonymous idiots over the internet day after day bodes well for your ability to actually listen to real people, which is more than can be said for any other Canadian politician I’ve seen in my lifetime.

Thank you, but the more people I meet, the more I like dogs. – Garth

#222 Lost....but not leased on 03.12.18 at 1:35 pm

I see Mr Dressup at it again..

New RCMP Commissioner is Brenda Lucki….

Just like he wanted 50% of the cabinet to be female…even though only 25% of his MPs are women…Turdeau stacked the panel making the decision with 6 women and 3 men.

#223 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 1:36 pm

#210 A J on 03.12.18 at 1:00 pm

Also, yes, unfortunately the scandals in Ontario come fast and furious, and seem to be never-ending. I’m so weary of politics and politicians these days. It seems the corruption is never ending. But all political corners are going to play hardball. And the skeletons in Ford’s closet are about to come spilling out.
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Yep, I am well sick of it too. Worse, I’m becoming way too apathetic due to zero expectations and always being right with those.

I hope we don’t get to find out what’s in Douggie’s closet…

#224 Stan Brooks on 03.12.18 at 2:09 pm

#190 Midnights on 03.12.18 at 10:57 am
Canada among three economies in world most at risk of banking crisis, BIS warns…

http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/china-banking-crisis-warning-signal-still-flashing-bis-says-1

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I actually disagree with BIS.

There will be no banking crises at all, there will be just gradual currency meltdown.

#225 Stan Brooks on 03.12.18 at 2:16 pm

#149 SoggyShorts on 03.12.18 at 1:10 am

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Life tip: If you aren’t a scientist yourself, and hear something or read one article that confirms your own thoughts already, follow it up with a google search for:
“The thing that I think I know myth”
Do NOT simply search for
“Proof of thing that I think I know”

This “mini ice age” myth has been debunked all over every time it comes up, but by then the damage is done and morons have spread it like a virus among others who are equally unwilling to challenge their own beliefs.
Just look at how much damage was done by that antivaxer paper. That doctor got off easy by being stripped of his license, I think he should be charged as a mass murderer or war criminal.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jan/09/the-imminent-mini-ice-age-myth-is-back-and-its-still-wrong

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I see,

So you are are saying the last 4 winters are warmer than usual?

Here are links to Wikipedia articles on the topic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum

and:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

Are you saying that Wikipedia is a fraud?

You are referring to Guardian as an authority on the topic? Really?

So read them in the freezing cold, I hope it warms you up.

#226 mark on 03.12.18 at 2:21 pm

Your popular on dark web too!?

#227 akashic records on 03.12.18 at 2:21 pm

Canadian population growth is 1.2%. Immigration is 0.8%. Federal spending growth is 6%. So much for your theory. – Garth

Without knowing the exact breakdown and a painstaking analysis where each dollar of the spending actually ends up, there can not be a theory at all.

Spending is buried in generic descriptions which are meaningless without tracing all the way where each dollar ends up in individuals bank account.

Money earmarked for education might actually be spent on salaries of consultants who create and execute ideological party politics for classrooms.

Making transparent that in who’s pocket each tax dollar actually ends up is said to be too complicated, but without it there is no possibility for actual accountability. Everybody who taps into receiving money collected from taxes knows that and they have zero interest to change this.

Putting each received tax dollar into a public blockchain could create this real-time transparent x-ray of money flow, ready to data mine by anybody and start the meaningful discussion of balanced budget.

Since we have the technology to achieve this at low cost, there is no excuse to not enforce governments to make tax spending fully transparent and public.

#228 Mike in Toronto on 03.12.18 at 2:23 pm

#100

“This is essentially politics. Those on the left support wanting to take care of all other families while potentially leaving their own family struggling. “

You might want to stop listening to AM radio or U.S. politics, because you’re spouting nonsense.

I would vote to support a fiscally conservative goverment if such a party existed. The Ontario Liberals are the closest thing to it at the moment. The PC’s having gone down the road of populist hate filled stupidity.

Caroline Mulroney would have had my support.

I dont’t need to be labeled ‘left’ or a ‘right’ for my political opinions.

#229 Doug in London on 03.12.18 at 2:28 pm

@Grey Dog, post #204:
The so called SARS “epidemic” was actually contained before it spread, proof that the health care sector in Ontario was doing something right. For the record, that actually happened in 2003 when Ernie Eves, not Mike Harris was premier. Recall that when Ontario’s deficit was getting out of control Bob Rae tried cutting expenses with the Social Contract in 1993. Personally I thought it was a good idea. For that reason, as well as liking the local candidate where I lived at the time, I voted NDP in the 1995 election. Remember how OPSEU screamed about the Social Contract? I think when Mike Harris got in they got what they deserved. Mike Harris was far from perfect, but he did see that cutting spending, regardless of how it’s done, was necessary to get the deficit under control.

#230 Mike T. on 03.12.18 at 2:33 pm

SOLUTIONS TO OUR PROBLEMS
this is written by a man named Ken who lives in Texas

http://redefininggod.com/2015/07/solutions-part-2-the-main-problem-with-government-is-hierarchy/

next i’ll do a post about standing governments vs coalescent governments
(hint – standing governments are bad)

#231 Dirty Dancing on 03.12.18 at 2:36 pm

#217 A J on 03.12.18 at 1:24 pm
#211 Howard

Dude, again, putting me in a corner? Read what I wrote to IHCTD9. I’m not a “left-wing abortionist” (if that’s even a thing). Please, seriously, stop categorizing me. I’m just pointing out what I think is an incorrect statement. That’s it, that’s all.

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NOBODY puts baby in a corner!

(sorry Garth)

#232 James on 03.12.18 at 2:43 pm

This interview was so funny until I actually realized how uneducated and ignorant Education Secretary Betsy DeVos was of the position she currently handles. Wow Trump loves to surround himself with incompetent people. Oh well misery loves company.

https://uproxx.com/news/betsy-devos-60-minutes/

#233 James on 03.12.18 at 2:49 pm

#220 SunShowers on 03.12.18 at 1:31 pm

Despite our frequent differences of opinion, I’d like to see you back in politics.

Your willingness to slog it out with anonymous idiots over the internet day after day bodes well for your ability to actually listen to real people, which is more than can be said for any other Canadian politician I’ve seen in my lifetime.

Thank you, but the more people I meet, the more I like dogs. – Garth
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I remember seeing Cheech and Chong show once about two dogs ralph and herbie and we humans are not that far off from them. Had to look it up but there is no way you would post that video.

#234 Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.12.18 at 2:59 pm

@214 IHTCD9 SEZ:

“Funny you should mention that. I took wife’s car in for an oil change. There was a sign saying roughly:

“Thanks to all loyal customers, due to the minimum wage hike of Jan 1, we have had to put prices up. We have NEVER paid our employees minimum wage. As of Jan 1 we have given all our employees a 4.00/hr. raise. We believe everyone should make a fair wage”

I asked how much the oil change went up – $9.00. An oil change takes about 10-15 minutes, 4-5 guys running 3 bays. Guys make 16.00-20.00 more TOTAL in an hour, Company makes 108.00 more in an hour. Minimum wage hike raises profits up to 92.00/hr.

…and no one can bitch because the company was just giving the guys what they deserved. ”
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Nonsense, I will bitch. Just because the employee wage went up doesn’t give the corps a right to gouge.

I will give them the benefit of the doubt that an oil change takes 20 minutes, therefore $4.00 hourly increase in wage amounts to around $1.35 per staff. If two of them work on the car that’s around $2.70. Increase per oil change of around $3 seems fair.

And trust me, I will say so. If they don’t agree I’ll walk (drive) away.

#235 Stan Brooks on 03.12.18 at 3:07 pm

#149 SoggyShorts on 03.12.18 at 1:10 am

Read this from Forbes, some facts, evidence vs. opinion:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/05/26/to-the-horror-of-global-warming-alarmists-global-cooling-is-here/#7a8aecab4dcf

#236 Big Kahuna on 03.12.18 at 3:24 pm

#154 YoungProg-your teachers neglected to inform you that Communist China is actually a toxic dump-the most polluted place on planet Earth. Maybe just maybe this isn’t the only thing they lied to you about.

#237 Tater on 03.12.18 at 3:26 pm

#221 Lost….but not leased on 03.12.18 at 1:35 pm
I see Mr Dressup at it again..

New RCMP Commissioner is Brenda Lucki….

Just like he wanted 50% of the cabinet to be female…even though only 25% of his MPs are women…Turdeau stacked the panel making the decision with 6 women and 3 men.
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31 year veteran of the force, not exactly the resume of a token hire. Muppet.

#238 Sheila Copps on 03.12.18 at 3:26 pm

#230 Dirty Dancing on 03.12.18 at 2:36 pm

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NOBODY puts baby in a corner!

(sorry Garth)

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He’s nobody’s baby !!

#239 A J on 03.12.18 at 3:29 pm

#222 IHCTD9

Haha yeah. I’m actually surprised Doug would want to enter provincial politics in the age of #MeToo. Even before the crazy “witch hunts” (for lack of a better term) going on today, he witnessed the destruction of his brother’s political career and health. This is on such a larger scale. I think he’s kidding himself if he doesn’t think people will be going after his past and pulling everything they can out of the woodwork. Or maybe he doesn’t care. I’m sure his base doesn’t. Much like how nothing can stop Trump. No scandal can take him down. Crazy times….

#240 Give it up for Winnie on 03.12.18 at 3:34 pm

‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’

Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947

PS The Darkest Hour will be the first movie that I am going to pay to watch twice.

#241 Reddy on 03.12.18 at 3:35 pm

Just a quick note to say that I think IHCTD9’s posts are well written without judgement towards others here.

I would think if your feeling any sorts of emotions to perhaps look within.. . My 2c

#242 Reddy on 03.12.18 at 3:39 pm

On another note, my weed.To stock is up again. . Whooooooohoo.

Finally, all my colleagues dont think the seedless watermelon will beat Wynne. . I’ll win that coffee in June

#243 IHCTD9 on 03.12.18 at 3:42 pm

#233 Bytor the Snow Dog on 03.12.18 at 2:59 pm

Nonsense, I will bitch. Just because the employee wage went up doesn’t give the corps a right to gouge.

I will give them the benefit of the doubt that an oil change takes 20 minutes, therefore $4.00 hourly increase in wage amounts to around $1.35 per staff. If two of them work on the car that’s around $2.70. Increase per oil change of around $3 seems fair.

And trust me, I will say so. If they don’t agree I’ll walk (drive) away
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I was just comparing this guy’s strategy to say, the Timmies in Couburg that made cuts and had the notice of such given to employees covertly emailed off to the CBC. This location ended up in the middle of a social media shitstorm for “screwing their employees”. This location received protests and boycotts.

Meanwhile, this oil change guy gives his employees a big raise, while power cranking the price of an oil change so high, that it not only covers the Jan 1 minimum wage increase, but also next year’s bump to 15 too, and THEN another buck on top of that, AND THEN on top of that puts more money in his own pocket too! LOL!

The owner cashed in big with this, yet the CBC would call him a hero if no one did the math. Such is Ontario, the poor schmuck footing the bill for this swirling orgy of raises probably feels great about supporting all this after reading the sign!!

#244 Howard on 03.12.18 at 4:05 pm

#236 Tater on 03.12.18 at 3:26 pm

#221 Lost….but not leased on 03.12.18 at 1:35 pm
I see Mr Dressup at it again..

New RCMP Commissioner is Brenda Lucki….

Just like he wanted 50% of the cabinet to be female…even though only 25% of his MPs are women…Turdeau stacked the panel making the decision with 6 women and 3 men.
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31 year veteran of the force, not exactly the resume of a token hire. Muppet.

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Wonderful.

Will she mandate gender parity in the RCMP and law enforcement in general?

And then perhaps the military, particularly the front lines.

#245 theoryAndPractice on 03.12.18 at 4:36 pm

#151 Flat Earth Society on 03.12.18 at 1:55 am
“I have even more proof that you don’t know pretty much anything about what you think you know.

Everybody understands Einstein’s equation: E=mc^2 right? Or at least you think you do. And we all know it explains nuclear physics right? Well, you are wrong.”
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You are also bound to your own statement :^)

You should settle for less, like when you step on your scale, what does it measure weight or mass ?

#246 SoggyShorts on 03.12.18 at 4:39 pm

#211 Howard on 03.12.18 at 1:03 pm
#198 A J on 03.12.18 at 12:18 pm

From the statistics we have (and they are far from perfect since abortionists prevent from gathering detailed information), roughly 2% of abortions occur in the third trimester. So it isn’t common, but 2% isn’t exactly rare either. There have been hundreds of “failed” late-term abortions that result in live births. Unknown if the babies were then murdered post-birth (presumably abortionists would demand it).

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That doesn’t sound true….. link please?

If you are going to claim something that is very shocking, you need a source, otherwise you just look like a liar and hurt your own case.

BTW I searched for quite a while using every phrasing I could think of and found ZERO cases, which is odd if there have been”hundreds”

#247 Smartalox on 03.12.18 at 5:16 pm

Remember this, those that are giddy about the prospect of DoFo beating Kathleen Wynne in the next election:

This was the PC party leadership contest. Arguably the bluest of the true blue Tories in the province of Ontario. The crowd mostl likely to vote for someone like DoFo.

Despite this, DoFo:
– Came in 2nd in the popular vote
– Won fewer ridings than Christine Elliott did.

Like Trump, DoFo relied on special ‘electoral’ votes to claim the leadership.

These were the people who were demographically most likely to vote for him, and he STILL almost lost.

Given how quickly the Ontario PC Caucus tossed Patrick Brown out (have you read the transcripts of those conference calls) he may have his work cut out for him, he’s going to have to win 63 seats, including one for himself, to form a government – and is unlikely to find any allies in the event of a minority Parliament.

But that likely won’t matter: I doubt DoFo will stick around in opposition. He’d probably start sniffing around after Scheer’s job, and go on to lose there, too.

#248 Jimini on 03.12.18 at 5:55 pm

#25 Two Faced Politics – Globe and Mail lost all credibility when they switched from publishing news, to publishing opinions. And since they lost the cojones to even allow comments that might challenge their ‘dimension B” thinking, nobody even reads it anymore.

#249 crowdedelevatorfartz on 03.12.18 at 5:57 pm

@#243 Howard
“Will she mandate gender parity in the RCMP and law enforcement in general?”
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Hopefully when 50% of all criminals are female.
But until that happens….
Look on the bright side.
If past govt pay performance is any indication .
We get a new RCMP commish for 25% less salary……..

#250 M on 03.12.18 at 6:18 pm

lol…” angry men opposed to government based on special interests.”

…correlating “special interests” with “angry” is the key :)

#251 M on 03.12.18 at 6:41 pm

he he he…
“And consider recent elections in France, Germany, Britain or Italy – where nationalism, tribalism and protectionism were major themes among divided and angry populations.”

…yes indeed… in Europe especially the young. Our Mils…vote lefty.

Refreshing to see that some still give a damn about who they are . Or rediscover. Lucky.. the politics is not only about how to cut a pie.

I doubt that the morons at the European Commission will know what hit them :) Especially that their economic policy makes Canada look like a million bucks (cca1900).

Watch the pics from Poland…and put a number on their age amongst the flags. Then compare them with ours :)

Whether some do like it or not…it’s happening…is growing in a tsunami and if the people “in charge” don’t pay attention…they’ll be wiped out. Violently if necessary.

…lovely…

#252 Igor on 03.12.18 at 8:06 pm

Education, education, education. Democracy does not work without education. It feels like most people vote for the guy who will promise the most to fight against all evil and support all good. And evil and good in this case are defined by popular trends on the Internet. People don’t vote for balanced budget because it will help them in long-term, they vote for drug selling because it is cool and their friends like it.

#253 Jeff on 03.12.18 at 8:27 pm

Maybe Doug will get in….but then again

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/globe-investigation-the-ford-familys-history-with-drug-dealing/article12153014/

#254 Bob in India on 03.12.18 at 10:53 pm

Garth,

Just run again…anywhere…

#255 Flat Earth Society on 03.13.18 at 2:22 am

#160 JP Superstar

You can’t even read, or at least you read a lot more than what was said.

First off, I never said sending 18 year old kids to war was conscientious. That was a horrible straw man argument and your rhetoric license is revoked.

Second, if you’d followed my links that I posted about relativity, both good sources, you would see that Einstein wasn’t trying to explain nuclear physics when he developed relativity, but it just so happened to also apply to nuclear particles after he developed the theory. But it applies to all mass and movement not just atomic particles. So again you don’t know what you don’t know, even if you can get the current measurement units right.

#256 Steven Rowlandson on 03.13.18 at 12:55 pm

Shut down the real estate market, outlaw all prices and rents and have the building, health and other government inspectors raid and inspect every structure without restraint. This real estate speculation insanity must end! It is a sickness of the mind and a genocidal attack on Canada.

#257 under the radar on 03.13.18 at 5:27 pm

That shed will be a challenge , but a very skilled contractor can put on enough lipstick that some newly minted professional will buy it . My prediction , back on the market in 6-8 months and will sell for 899k

There is 200k of work to be done completely rebuilding, reshoring and cleansing that site and structure. Anyone doing so and selling for $899,000 will be losing money. – Garth