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		<title>By: pjwlk</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjwlk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2  steve said:

&quot;… my wife has given me until July 15th to make the purchase regardless of whether the market is going up or down…&quot;

I don&#039;t respond well to ultimatums myself, but dude it looks like you&#039;re finished...  Even if RE starts sliding today, you won&#039;t see the trough until 3-5 years from now.

As for living in a basement, don&#039;t listen to all the wack jobs here who are telling you that it&#039;s sinister.  We&#039;ll see who laughs last...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2  steve said:</p>
<p>&#8220;… my wife has given me until July 15th to make the purchase regardless of whether the market is going up or down…&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t respond well to ultimatums myself, but dude it looks like you&#8217;re finished&#8230;  Even if RE starts sliding today, you won&#8217;t see the trough until 3-5 years from now.</p>
<p>As for living in a basement, don&#8217;t listen to all the wack jobs here who are telling you that it&#8217;s sinister.  We&#8217;ll see who laughs last&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Original Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2010/02/23/bad-dog/comment-page-4/#comment-63280</link>
		<dc:creator>The Original Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you are excited about lithium and demand seems to be increasing. The problem I have with being too aggressive buying in stocks like TNR etc is that China’s BYD has stated that the iron battery is much better than lithium and costs much less.
here’s one article for your perusal:
http://green.autoblog.com/2007/10/09/chinas-byd-automobile-to-make-hybrid-next-year/

what I have learned over time is that being a business owner (LTD) and investing in selective real estate in certain areas have made me my money. Stocks have hurt me as well as so many other people and perhaps thats why these investors I know are now 55% in real estate 30% in gold, silver, oil, lithuim, iron (minerals), bank stocks and 15% cash.

Your thoughts?
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I&#039;m more into the rare earths than the lithiums simply because there&#039;s more supply shortages with rare earths and there&#039;s a lot more uses.  So many uses that it&#039;s scary.  Again, China owns 95% of the mines and continues to enforce laws on exporting these elements.  This is one resource battle that will get interesting in the coming years.  No matter where you turn, these elements are needed.

See, you&#039;re good at picking real estate.  You&#039;re able to sift through the garbage and find gems.  There&#039;s a lot of people that are able to do that with stocks.  The problem is: when casual investors are buying stocks in droves, even good stocks pullback.  The same goes for real estate.  Yes, the action will vary, but you can&#039;t assume that the gem areas will escape unscathed.  How many pockets or great areas in the U.S haven&#039;t seen declines?  Like many people if the average home is $500,000 in one state and $190,000 in another, I&#039;d consider taking my family to the state with lower prices. It&#039;s this attitude that skims prices off the top of the great areas.  

I don&#039;t know, I like to look at things in a macro perspective.  Only time will tell how this all unfolds.  Maybe you generate ridiculous amounts of cashflow in ways I know nothing about.  Maybe in the worst case scenario, your holdings and lifestyle remain steady.

  Entry timing is everything for me.  There was a blogger on here weeks ago with a great story that talked about a bull market in beef where he was buying beef for $300 and was able to sell them for $10,000 a few years later.  Is beef a great buy today?  I&#039;m not sure.  I&#039;m not going to buy some just because of the run-up it had.  A portfolio with 55% real estate purchased in 1995 (in Toronto) is probably great, a portfolio with 55% real estate purchased in 2007 (in Toronto) is bad (in my opinion of course).   15% portfolio  in Oil, uranium etc purchased in 2007 might look ugly now, the same purchased in march 2009 probably look great.

I&#039;m very agressive but stay in cash a lot as well.  This is why I find Garth&#039;s blog very beneficial as he gives info on the best ways to get sound and steady returns with little effort and activity.

Anyhow, thanks, and best of luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you are excited about lithium and demand seems to be increasing. The problem I have with being too aggressive buying in stocks like TNR etc is that China’s BYD has stated that the iron battery is much better than lithium and costs much less.<br />
here’s one article for your perusal:<br />
<a href="http://green.autoblog.com/2007/10/09/chinas-byd-automobile-to-make-hybrid-next-year/" rel="nofollow">http://green.autoblog.com/2007/10/09/chinas-byd-automobile-to-make-hybrid-next-year/</a></p>
<p>what I have learned over time is that being a business owner (LTD) and investing in selective real estate in certain areas have made me my money. Stocks have hurt me as well as so many other people and perhaps thats why these investors I know are now 55% in real estate 30% in gold, silver, oil, lithuim, iron (minerals), bank stocks and 15% cash.</p>
<p>Your thoughts?<br />
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<p>I&#8217;m more into the rare earths than the lithiums simply because there&#8217;s more supply shortages with rare earths and there&#8217;s a lot more uses.  So many uses that it&#8217;s scary.  Again, China owns 95% of the mines and continues to enforce laws on exporting these elements.  This is one resource battle that will get interesting in the coming years.  No matter where you turn, these elements are needed.</p>
<p>See, you&#8217;re good at picking real estate.  You&#8217;re able to sift through the garbage and find gems.  There&#8217;s a lot of people that are able to do that with stocks.  The problem is: when casual investors are buying stocks in droves, even good stocks pullback.  The same goes for real estate.  Yes, the action will vary, but you can&#8217;t assume that the gem areas will escape unscathed.  How many pockets or great areas in the U.S haven&#8217;t seen declines?  Like many people if the average home is $500,000 in one state and $190,000 in another, I&#8217;d consider taking my family to the state with lower prices. It&#8217;s this attitude that skims prices off the top of the great areas.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, I like to look at things in a macro perspective.  Only time will tell how this all unfolds.  Maybe you generate ridiculous amounts of cashflow in ways I know nothing about.  Maybe in the worst case scenario, your holdings and lifestyle remain steady.</p>
<p>  Entry timing is everything for me.  There was a blogger on here weeks ago with a great story that talked about a bull market in beef where he was buying beef for $300 and was able to sell them for $10,000 a few years later.  Is beef a great buy today?  I&#8217;m not sure.  I&#8217;m not going to buy some just because of the run-up it had.  A portfolio with 55% real estate purchased in 1995 (in Toronto) is probably great, a portfolio with 55% real estate purchased in 2007 (in Toronto) is bad (in my opinion of course).   15% portfolio  in Oil, uranium etc purchased in 2007 might look ugly now, the same purchased in march 2009 probably look great.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very agressive but stay in cash a lot as well.  This is why I find Garth&#8217;s blog very beneficial as he gives info on the best ways to get sound and steady returns with little effort and activity.</p>
<p>Anyhow, thanks, and best of luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan in Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan in Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post#153 Ret. Good post. Just to add to it. Its amazing what people will sell &quot;used&quot; stuff for. I have a set of wheels and tires on my truck that I got the guy to throw in when I bought the truck, thankyou, $1500 free.
I have just got all new solid core doors for my house &quot;free.&quot; Oh those, well I guess you can have them we were going to put them in the dumpster. I don&#039;t like them.
Our first appliances when the wife and I got married cost us 50 bucks, and I had to carry them down 3 flights of stairs.
We got 250 gallons of furnace oil free a few years ago as long as I took the tank.
It always amazes me what some people will discard.
But what really amazes me is what you can trade a case of beer for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post#153 Ret. Good post. Just to add to it. Its amazing what people will sell &#8220;used&#8221; stuff for. I have a set of wheels and tires on my truck that I got the guy to throw in when I bought the truck, thankyou, $1500 free.<br />
I have just got all new solid core doors for my house &#8220;free.&#8221; Oh those, well I guess you can have them we were going to put them in the dumpster. I don&#8217;t like them.<br />
Our first appliances when the wife and I got married cost us 50 bucks, and I had to carry them down 3 flights of stairs.<br />
We got 250 gallons of furnace oil free a few years ago as long as I took the tank.<br />
It always amazes me what some people will discard.<br />
But what really amazes me is what you can trade a case of beer for.</p>
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		<title>By: blockexistentialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>blockexistentialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wunderbar bar graphs. A sincere thank you, Garth, for the economic logos you spread and the highly useful dialogue you inspire on this blog. It&#039;s akin to sitting around jawing in a 17th century coffeehouse.
   A house on our block that I have a dangerous crush on sold today. The chagrin faded in minutes and I feel nothing now but vast relief. Sort of like when your kid beats you to the last piece of chocolate cake. Or when your deadbeat spouse leaves for good.
     I considered sending the new big mortgage holder (as you know, the bank owns the house) a thank-you card for removing the temptation, but that would be cruel. 
    The real decision for the couple agonizing over jumping into the housing market now is simple: Do they want to decide their future on facts or by examining the entrails of sheep? 
    Go with the visual, not the viscereal, people!
    If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, then it probably is a duck (And YES! YES! I loved the now-infamous duck picture!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wunderbar bar graphs. A sincere thank you, Garth, for the economic logos you spread and the highly useful dialogue you inspire on this blog. It&#8217;s akin to sitting around jawing in a 17th century coffeehouse.<br />
   A house on our block that I have a dangerous crush on sold today. The chagrin faded in minutes and I feel nothing now but vast relief. Sort of like when your kid beats you to the last piece of chocolate cake. Or when your deadbeat spouse leaves for good.<br />
     I considered sending the new big mortgage holder (as you know, the bank owns the house) a thank-you card for removing the temptation, but that would be cruel.<br />
    The real decision for the couple agonizing over jumping into the housing market now is simple: Do they want to decide their future on facts or by examining the entrails of sheep?<br />
    Go with the visual, not the viscereal, people!<br />
    If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, then it probably is a duck (And YES! YES! I loved the now-infamous duck picture!)</p>
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		<title>By: Future Expatriate</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2010/02/23/bad-dog/comment-page-4/#comment-63254</link>
		<dc:creator>Future Expatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33 - Not only do they not get it, they have horrific taste.

Who&#039;d have thought the number one design/decor trend of the beginning of the 21st century would be the same exact Victorian and/or worse yet, prairie farmhouse style of the beginning of the 20th?

Bleech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 &#8211; Not only do they not get it, they have horrific taste.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;d have thought the number one design/decor trend of the beginning of the 21st century would be the same exact Victorian and/or worse yet, prairie farmhouse style of the beginning of the 20th?</p>
<p>Bleech.</p>
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