“Wow, this board is full of uncivil servants that sacrifice 50/100K per year in extra pay so that they can serve their country. How altruistic of them!!”

Or this board is full of civil servants that cannot stand the concept supporting room temperature private sector individuals who fail to plan for the future….

Most studies show that during boom years the private sector gets paid disproportionate to the value that they add…

coho, what makes you think society won’t break down in rural areas too? Are you thinking that rural people will not feel anger and unrest? That they’ll have goods and services while city people will not? That their distance communications will hold-up better than will those in the cities? And why on earth would friends and family who live in the country be so different in supportiveness nature than the friends and family who live in the city?

I’ve been reading about the roving gangs of thieves and rapists and the packs of stray, unfed dogs kicked-out by their no-longer-able-to-feed-them owners for over ten years, accompanied by all sorts of rants about society as we know it gone forever and death and destruction in its place. However, no one seems to consider that those roving gangs may head for the country, too, especially if and when word gets around that food is being grown in abundance there.

I’m not saying these things lightly. I’m rural-raised and not wanting to return there. Life was cold, lonely, and a struggle. A shortage of fuel made worse by a high price of oil won’t make rural life any easier, either.

You may not have heard about the pre-y2k Milne who kept repeating “If you live within five miles of a 7-11, you’re toast.” Well, to me a nearby 7-11 is somewhat comforting. An empty water tower or cistern isn’t.

The Net Hubbert curve will make the World Collapse much faster than did the Roman edifice….it was driven by ox and man power…solar driven….so when central authority went away the barbarians mostly went back to farm life (a few stormed the Gates and all that..but not many)
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Oil–what can ya say–
Gold is a political metal and Oil is a political commodity–
I’ve read Kunstlers “long emergency and Simons –Twilight in the desert–
Oil always an anomaly–inflation or deflation–never seems to have a lasting hold on it–
Seems to have an initial effect,and then it decouples from economics–
So–i do agree with you about such a wild card–
We have ways of prolonging this “thing” but–
instead of doing what we can–
convert vehicles to nat gas–go nuclear–green energies etc–
we instead focus on making crooked bankers whole–who got caught up,in their own ponzi scheme–
We’re a society coming unglued and we just can’t get out of the way of ourselves–
We’re too tiny of a group–a handful of bloggers–
to make any difference–
someone above–talked about too much gloom on this board–
Reality–this time around–ain’t pretty–

I’m tired of this civil servant bashing all the time. We work hard for years and give the best years of our lives for the taxpayers. First of all our pension is contributory and we work for lower wages as a trade off for the pension. It’s not a gold plated pension anyway (you’re just guessing ); we have to have other investment income in order to survive after retirement.

#131 Bailout Joe on 02.05.10 at 8:13 pm
127 Tax Haven

Or…

One thing our leaders should do is impose an additional 30% tax on all inflated private sector wages during the boom years and create a special “boom bust fund” for those specific individuals.

Wow, this board is full of uncivil servants that sacrifice 50/100K per year in extra pay so that they can serve their country. How altruistic of them!!

In fact most studies show that the public service, if anything, is overpaid and also, way too big.

And BTW, that additional tax that you are talking about already exists given our progressive tax system.

66 JK – it is every taxpayers right to avoid paying taxes
by any legal means. But I have no problem if you want to pay extra.

Jess – thank you for your numerous postings and links. Many seem relevant to US law and taxes. Can you provide more Canadian content please?

Why should someone make $12-20000 a year net on a property

MAKE??? that is the make or break for owning from a bank… with out that they are underwater… I bet you.

Hamilton, and every other major city, is filled with thousands of these illegal apartments. City Hall keeps whining about not having any money for infrastructure. They need to look to the slumlords who fill up single family residential zoned properties with as many people as they can pack in, profit large, and dump their tenants on the City for more services.

Why should someone make $12-20000 a year net on a property and pay the same property tax as a neighbour who does not rent their property, put in a 911 call every month, dump trash illegally, overload sewer systems etc.?

If you didn’t report $12-20000 of employment or interest income on your income tax form, year after year, Rev Canada would have you residing in a nice room with Bubba at the Gray Bar Hilton.