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		<title>By: latinlife</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/11/22/hormones/comment-page-3/#comment-51352</link>
		<dc:creator>latinlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#111 SOJU

You don&#039;t understand the nature of gold.

It&#039;s insurance against(amongst other things) a currency crisis.

Smart money is exchanging their paper money for gold.

Google John Paulson, David Einhorn and Paul Tudor to see wht the world&#039;s smartest money is buying and holding gold.

Get yourself some now while it&#039;s cheap or be punished by it!

Gold: The ultimate money punisher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#111 SOJU</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t understand the nature of gold.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s insurance against(amongst other things) a currency crisis.</p>
<p>Smart money is exchanging their paper money for gold.</p>
<p>Google John Paulson, David Einhorn and Paul Tudor to see wht the world&#8217;s smartest money is buying and holding gold.</p>
<p>Get yourself some now while it&#8217;s cheap or be punished by it!</p>
<p>Gold: The ultimate money punisher</p>
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		<title>By: latinlife</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/11/22/hormones/comment-page-3/#comment-51351</link>
		<dc:creator>latinlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.E. X2

I just got word from my agent who is also my friend, the project is nearing 50% sold out before even opening on the 24th of september because of some serious add-ons that we received such as: guaranteed 2 year lease out if its an investment property and 10% down payment loan by the builder upon closing to make your total downpayment 20% to avoid CMHC insurance premium.....WOOHOO!!

We are there NOW!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.E. X2</p>
<p>I just got word from my agent who is also my friend, the project is nearing 50% sold out before even opening on the 24th of september because of some serious add-ons that we received such as: guaranteed 2 year lease out if its an investment property and 10% down payment loan by the builder upon closing to make your total downpayment 20% to avoid CMHC insurance premium&#8230;..WOOHOO!!</p>
<p>We are there NOW!!</p>
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		<title>By: Soju</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/11/22/hormones/comment-page-3/#comment-51269</link>
		<dc:creator>Soju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gold is only going up due to people hoarding it.  Unfortunately, no one is actually using it.  The gold still there.  I wonder what will happen once everyone decides to sell back the gold...  At least with RE, people must live somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gold is only going up due to people hoarding it.  Unfortunately, no one is actually using it.  The gold still there.  I wonder what will happen once everyone decides to sell back the gold&#8230;  At least with RE, people must live somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Soju</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/11/22/hormones/comment-page-3/#comment-51259</link>
		<dc:creator>Soju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prices go up then down then up higher then down then up higer...  What&#039;s the point.  People survive and the sun keeps rising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prices go up then down then up higher then down then up higer&#8230;  What&#8217;s the point.  People survive and the sun keeps rising.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer like you</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/11/22/hormones/comment-page-3/#comment-51164</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer like you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pezazz - found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ghzomm15yE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pezazz &#8211; found this:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ghzomm15yE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ghzomm15yE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer like you</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/11/22/hormones/comment-page-3/#comment-51161</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer like you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pezazz@52 - Havent read Garths book, but it sounds like some kind of &quot;future shock&quot;. Google it. I never read that book either, but did see the documentary when it first came out (yes I am that old). I&#039;ll search it.

NE Canuck @55. Is the conlcusion that people are leaving 
based only on school closures? It is well known that as families in neighbourhoods age, the enrollment for schools drops. I also saw where downtown van is experiencing an increase in demand for grade schools, as &quot;Vancouverism&quot; has increased the number of young families living downtown. Sorry, only remember that it was a local TV station running the story.

92 Jess - Cant speak for East of Manitoba, but the western provinces have a torrens-based land registry system. Wont happen here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pezazz@52 &#8211; Havent read Garths book, but it sounds like some kind of &#8220;future shock&#8221;. Google it. I never read that book either, but did see the documentary when it first came out (yes I am that old). I&#8217;ll search it.</p>
<p>NE Canuck @55. Is the conlcusion that people are leaving<br />
based only on school closures? It is well known that as families in neighbourhoods age, the enrollment for schools drops. I also saw where downtown van is experiencing an increase in demand for grade schools, as &#8220;Vancouverism&#8221; has increased the number of young families living downtown. Sorry, only remember that it was a local TV station running the story.</p>
<p>92 Jess &#8211; Cant speak for East of Manitoba, but the western provinces have a torrens-based land registry system. Wont happen here.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan in Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan in Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post#105  Nosti,As I said before,The only reason he survived his fall is cause he landed on a taxpayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post#105  Nosti,As I said before,The only reason he survived his fall is cause he landed on a taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: Potato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CM (#78):

A good job of it, you seem to have made a good case for yourself. A few comments:

First, be prepared for the &quot;b-b-b-but owning means we&#039;re building equity&quot; argument. In your spreadsheet, your &quot;mortgage payment&quot; is actually the simple interest on the mortgage. I think that&#039;s a very fair way to do it (in fact, I use the whole purchase price) since even as you pay down principal, there&#039;s the opportunity cost of that money being tied up, which generally would be about what the mortgage rate would be. The actual payment on a 4% mortgage (25 year am) would be nearly $2000/mo -- so the renter can save the difference (assuming they can stick to a budget) and build just as much equity, but in a diversified way.

Unless the laws are significantly different in Alberta, your ownership advantages are overstated: you can paint the walls whatever colour you like when you rent, you just have to paint them back before you leave.

Finally, I&#039;ll just say that this is fine for the average joe, but you should also run the numbers for &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; specific situation. Find a rental or three that you would consider living in -- whether that&#039;s high rise, townhouse, or detached -- in a neighbourhood you like, and then find units for sale that are as similar as possible to those. Run the numbers comparing the two.

I had to work very hard to win a similar debate. What finally won it for me was the argument &quot;look, we can either afford to own this house, or rent it &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; buy a new car.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CM (#78):</p>
<p>A good job of it, you seem to have made a good case for yourself. A few comments:</p>
<p>First, be prepared for the &#8220;b-b-b-but owning means we&#8217;re building equity&#8221; argument. In your spreadsheet, your &#8220;mortgage payment&#8221; is actually the simple interest on the mortgage. I think that&#8217;s a very fair way to do it (in fact, I use the whole purchase price) since even as you pay down principal, there&#8217;s the opportunity cost of that money being tied up, which generally would be about what the mortgage rate would be. The actual payment on a 4% mortgage (25 year am) would be nearly $2000/mo &#8212; so the renter can save the difference (assuming they can stick to a budget) and build just as much equity, but in a diversified way.</p>
<p>Unless the laws are significantly different in Alberta, your ownership advantages are overstated: you can paint the walls whatever colour you like when you rent, you just have to paint them back before you leave.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;ll just say that this is fine for the average joe, but you should also run the numbers for <i>your</i> specific situation. Find a rental or three that you would consider living in &#8212; whether that&#8217;s high rise, townhouse, or detached &#8212; in a neighbourhood you like, and then find units for sale that are as similar as possible to those. Run the numbers comparing the two.</p>
<p>I had to work very hard to win a similar debate. What finally won it for me was the argument &#8220;look, we can either afford to own this house, or rent it <i>and</i> buy a new car.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nostradamus jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nostradamus jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#103 Dan

...If the man who jumped from the 100th floor was from Vancouver BC&#039;s North Shore, he survived the fall.

It&#039;s different for Vancouver(ites)...don&#039;t you know.

Nostradamus jr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#103 Dan</p>
<p>&#8230;If the man who jumped from the 100th floor was from Vancouver BC&#8217;s North Shore, he survived the fall.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s different for Vancouver(ites)&#8230;don&#8217;t you know.</p>
<p>Nostradamus jr.</p>
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		<title>By: Piccaso</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/11/22/hormones/comment-page-3/#comment-51149</link>
		<dc:creator>Piccaso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya you did, I came back and posted the only bank stock I&#039;d own right now is FINANCIAL BEAR 3X SHARES ETF 
Symbol - FAZ
&lt;em&gt;
So buy it, and tell is what happens. -- Garth&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya you did, I came back and posted the only bank stock I&#8217;d own right now is FINANCIAL BEAR 3X SHARES ETF<br />
Symbol &#8211; FAZ<br />
<em><br />
So buy it, and tell is what happens. &#8212; Garth</em></p>
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