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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/07/04/juxta/comment-page-3/#comment-34522</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 and Garth&#039;s response.

From what I have been able to ascertain through reading, and from friends who are missionaries in some of the areas of the world suffering through the worst of the poverty and starvation, it isn&#039;t that Earth is unable to grow enough food for the current population.  The fact is that the corruption of the governments that rule these nations prevents them from developing economies that are healthy and prosperous.  

Nations like those found in Africa in many cases are lush and fertile, but the people lack equipment, training and supplies to produce food.  

We cannot blame the Earth for this, it is the product of mankind&#039;s greed, corruption and quest for power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 and Garth&#8217;s response.</p>
<p>From what I have been able to ascertain through reading, and from friends who are missionaries in some of the areas of the world suffering through the worst of the poverty and starvation, it isn&#8217;t that Earth is unable to grow enough food for the current population.  The fact is that the corruption of the governments that rule these nations prevents them from developing economies that are healthy and prosperous.  </p>
<p>Nations like those found in Africa in many cases are lush and fertile, but the people lack equipment, training and supplies to produce food.  </p>
<p>We cannot blame the Earth for this, it is the product of mankind&#8217;s greed, corruption and quest for power.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalpa</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/07/04/juxta/comment-page-3/#comment-34520</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this post, Garth. I&#039;m using it on my blog today. Hope you don&#039;t mind.

&lt;em&gt;You can pay me in saddlebag rub. -- Garth&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this post, Garth. I&#8217;m using it on my blog today. Hope you don&#8217;t mind.</p>
<p><em>You can pay me in saddlebag rub. &#8212; Garth</em></p>
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		<title>By: BE</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/07/04/juxta/comment-page-3/#comment-34480</link>
		<dc:creator>BE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight.

Dave is sitting on a million dollars right now which means he must have had several hundred thousand 6 or 7 years ago.  He didn&#039;t buy a house then for whatever reason and therefore missed the greatest run-up in housing value ever, 2003 -2008.

All the commenters heartily slap him on the back for making such a wise and level headed investment choice and tell him to wait some more (good advice now... bad advice then).   Wow.  Remind me not to hire any of you to be my financial adviser.

&lt;em&gt;Perhaps he made money in he real estate bubble, realized his capital gain, and is laughing at you. -- Garth&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight.</p>
<p>Dave is sitting on a million dollars right now which means he must have had several hundred thousand 6 or 7 years ago.  He didn&#8217;t buy a house then for whatever reason and therefore missed the greatest run-up in housing value ever, 2003 -2008.</p>
<p>All the commenters heartily slap him on the back for making such a wise and level headed investment choice and tell him to wait some more (good advice now&#8230; bad advice then).   Wow.  Remind me not to hire any of you to be my financial adviser.</p>
<p><em>Perhaps he made money in he real estate bubble, realized his capital gain, and is laughing at you. &#8212; Garth</em></p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/07/04/juxta/comment-page-3/#comment-34470</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela 100.... too funny... much as I would like to see prices drop alot here in Toronto... they have not and save for a few homes I saw in January most sell for asking or higher.  The smart buyer will assess the price and say pass  but right beside him/her is some dumbass with a VRM who will pay more because their realtors scares the crap out of them... Comps here have sloped up recently not down ( even with all my praying) so the trend is a marked increase with each passing sale and given the volume here that adds up fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela 100&#8230;. too funny&#8230; much as I would like to see prices drop alot here in Toronto&#8230; they have not and save for a few homes I saw in January most sell for asking or higher.  The smart buyer will assess the price and say pass  but right beside him/her is some dumbass with a VRM who will pay more because their realtors scares the crap out of them&#8230; Comps here have sloped up recently not down ( even with all my praying) so the trend is a marked increase with each passing sale and given the volume here that adds up fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/07/04/juxta/comment-page-3/#comment-34462</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I looked at inflation in utilities, taxes, food, and the general cost of living i realized my cash was just disappearing- the Government is printing money! Plus you pay tax on the interest on your cash. Dave, smell the coffee- you are being robbed

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landlords many times pay for utilities and taxes.  Food is paid by you whether you&#039;re the landlord or the tenant.  Sorry if this is rocket science.  Trying to catch a falling safe as you have, is a bad idea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I looked at inflation in utilities, taxes, food, and the general cost of living i realized my cash was just disappearing- the Government is printing money! Plus you pay tax on the interest on your cash. Dave, smell the coffee- you are being robbed</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
landlords many times pay for utilities and taxes.  Food is paid by you whether you&#8217;re the landlord or the tenant.  Sorry if this is rocket science.  Trying to catch a falling safe as you have, is a bad idea</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onemorething...yes, I&#039;m aware of Garth&#039;s advice, here&#039;s the problem; I immediately emailed my bank in Canada to enquire about the bank stocks mentioned by Garth.
The response from the financial manager was that one must be present personally to buy these investments.
As I&#039;m not in the country, it would mean a long trek back to Canada, seems there&#039;s no way around it. 
Apparently this is some kind of govt.ruling.

&lt;em&gt;Get a brokerage account. -- Garth&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onemorething&#8230;yes, I&#8217;m aware of Garth&#8217;s advice, here&#8217;s the problem; I immediately emailed my bank in Canada to enquire about the bank stocks mentioned by Garth.<br />
The response from the financial manager was that one must be present personally to buy these investments.<br />
As I&#8217;m not in the country, it would mean a long trek back to Canada, seems there&#8217;s no way around it.<br />
Apparently this is some kind of govt.ruling.</p>
<p><em>Get a brokerage account. &#8212; Garth</em></p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike  #93
&quot;That means they make the buyer pay the extra
amount needed for their take home amount.&quot; 


Pretty basic. The buyer simply refuses to pay. That drives down the price. The comps then show lower prices and on and on it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike  #93<br />
&#8220;That means they make the buyer pay the extra<br />
amount needed for their take home amount.&#8221; </p>
<p>Pretty basic. The buyer simply refuses to pay. That drives down the price. The comps then show lower prices and on and on it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Nostradamus Le Mad Vlad</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/07/04/juxta/comment-page-2/#comment-34434</link>
		<dc:creator>Nostradamus Le Mad Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71 Jimster on 07.04.09 at 10:45 pm -- &quot;. . . to come up with this scary scenario. . . What if? Due to a series of cataclysmic events, all western governments did this: outlawed possession of gold ( i.e. Roosevelt in 1933 [see para. below] ) and eliminated cash in favour of digital currency as they have been pushing for a long time to fight terrorism. Then they implement negative interest rates. . . .&quot;

Ahhh yo, GotMahQwazeeMOJOworking. Velly intellesting post.

Earlier, the experience of being in the midst of an enormously massive straw-rasp-berry-sounding brainfartquake, the epicentre of which was located in the creative white space between my two outer extremities, a.k.a. my Ears took me by surprise.

So I sat up, pondering on Jimster&#039;s excellent post, adding others&#039; POVs and the links I supply, esp. the one about Martial Law being introduced via a new farmers&#039; bill in the US, the former Bills C-51 and C-52, now reincarnated as Bill C-6 which will give big pharma and thus, big oil full control of our lives.

The bits and pieces are quietly and quickly being arranged like a jigsaw puzzle. Part of a link which I posted says &quot;. . .Act of March 9, [1933], a declared state of emergency at the request of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. This state of emergency was never lifted.

“Global pandemic – Level 6 – Mortgage/housing crisis – Banking/lending crisis – Automobile industry crisis – Insurance industry crisis – Healthcare crisis – Southwestern border crisis – Black market drug crisis – National education crisis – Nature/global warming crisis – Jobs/unemployment crisis – On-going weather and forest fire crises – Extreme and unread congressional legislation crisis due to on-going crises”

HyperJuxtaScrewed, to play on Garth&#039;s headline seems to be the correct terminology to describe our present circumstances.

Lest anyone forgets, China has cloaking devices  --  http://tinyurl.com/cmss72  --  on its nuke-powered subs (as are Russia, Israel, the US and one or two others), so we may as well Dance With The Devil We Don&#039;t Know, coz it&#039;s a lot more enjoyable than this trash!
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The California Canary is dead; first two paras. are clear. -- http://tinyurl.com/pq42zl  --  Giss whut? Bartering iz bak! -- http://tinyurl.com/nkdsxz
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Fairly decent link which may shed some light on the current malaise. -- http://tinyurl.com/no95wp
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Recall the bombings on 7/7/7 in London? Look what&#039;s happening starting Tuesday the 7th -- triple eclipse! -- http://tinyurl.com/plksdj
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A clip and lyrics for the world&#039;s two biggest terrorist states. No need to play clip (Black Sabbath - War Pigs), read the lyrics below. -- http://tinyurl.com/oredb5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71 Jimster on 07.04.09 at 10:45 pm &#8212; &#8220;. . . to come up with this scary scenario. . . What if? Due to a series of cataclysmic events, all western governments did this: outlawed possession of gold ( i.e. Roosevelt in 1933 [see para. below] ) and eliminated cash in favour of digital currency as they have been pushing for a long time to fight terrorism. Then they implement negative interest rates. . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Ahhh yo, GotMahQwazeeMOJOworking. Velly intellesting post.</p>
<p>Earlier, the experience of being in the midst of an enormously massive straw-rasp-berry-sounding brainfartquake, the epicentre of which was located in the creative white space between my two outer extremities, a.k.a. my Ears took me by surprise.</p>
<p>So I sat up, pondering on Jimster&#8217;s excellent post, adding others&#8217; POVs and the links I supply, esp. the one about Martial Law being introduced via a new farmers&#8217; bill in the US, the former Bills C-51 and C-52, now reincarnated as Bill C-6 which will give big pharma and thus, big oil full control of our lives.</p>
<p>The bits and pieces are quietly and quickly being arranged like a jigsaw puzzle. Part of a link which I posted says &#8220;. . .Act of March 9, [1933], a declared state of emergency at the request of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. This state of emergency was never lifted.</p>
<p>“Global pandemic – Level 6 – Mortgage/housing crisis – Banking/lending crisis – Automobile industry crisis – Insurance industry crisis – Healthcare crisis – Southwestern border crisis – Black market drug crisis – National education crisis – Nature/global warming crisis – Jobs/unemployment crisis – On-going weather and forest fire crises – Extreme and unread congressional legislation crisis due to on-going crises”</p>
<p>HyperJuxtaScrewed, to play on Garth&#8217;s headline seems to be the correct terminology to describe our present circumstances.</p>
<p>Lest anyone forgets, China has cloaking devices  &#8212;  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cmss72" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cmss72</a>  &#8212;  on its nuke-powered subs (as are Russia, Israel, the US and one or two others), so we may as well Dance With The Devil We Don&#8217;t Know, coz it&#8217;s a lot more enjoyable than this trash!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;<br />
The California Canary is dead; first two paras. are clear. &#8212; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/pq42zl" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/pq42zl</a>  &#8212;  Giss whut? Bartering iz bak! &#8212; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/nkdsxz" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/nkdsxz</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Fairly decent link which may shed some light on the current malaise. &#8212; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/no95wp" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/no95wp</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Recall the bombings on 7/7/7 in London? Look what&#8217;s happening starting Tuesday the 7th &#8212; triple eclipse! &#8212; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/plksdj" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/plksdj</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
A clip and lyrics for the world&#8217;s two biggest terrorist states. No need to play clip (Black Sabbath &#8211; War Pigs), read the lyrics below. &#8212; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/oredb5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/oredb5</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realtors have no control over prices, they just want you to buy. If they don&#039;t make a sale, they don&#039;t get paid. That is why the RE industry wants to create hype so people will continue to buy.

Let&#039;s be honest, if realtors said prices are going to fall, no one would buy this month, if the same house would be less money next month.

I don&#039;t use a realtor as I find that in most cases there is no value for the dollar. No real professional would advocate that a purchaser make an offer with no conditions, especially an inspection. Yet they do, as they want to make that sale.

You just have to look to the US to see what will happen in Canada in the near future. With rising unemployment and rising interest rates, many buyers are going to be in a difficult spot.

Realtors always point out that in the 80&#039;s rates rose to 18 % but lets remember that they were already at 12%, making for a 50% rise. So if the average rate is now 4% and they rise to the norm of 8-9% you can see that is a 100% rise. Watch what will happen to the RE industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realtors have no control over prices, they just want you to buy. If they don&#8217;t make a sale, they don&#8217;t get paid. That is why the RE industry wants to create hype so people will continue to buy.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, if realtors said prices are going to fall, no one would buy this month, if the same house would be less money next month.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use a realtor as I find that in most cases there is no value for the dollar. No real professional would advocate that a purchaser make an offer with no conditions, especially an inspection. Yet they do, as they want to make that sale.</p>
<p>You just have to look to the US to see what will happen in Canada in the near future. With rising unemployment and rising interest rates, many buyers are going to be in a difficult spot.</p>
<p>Realtors always point out that in the 80&#8217;s rates rose to 18 % but lets remember that they were already at 12%, making for a 50% rise. So if the average rate is now 4% and they rise to the norm of 8-9% you can see that is a 100% rise. Watch what will happen to the RE industry.</p>
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		<title>By: eddy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Toronto, prices Have already dropped. Like Dave, I  waited for prices to collapse, they didn&#039;t, so I bought.
When I looked at inflation in utilities, taxes, food, and the general cost of living i realized my cash was just disappearing- the Government is printing money! Plus you pay tax on the interest on your cash. Dave, smell the coffee- you are being robbed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Toronto, prices Have already dropped. Like Dave, I  waited for prices to collapse, they didn&#8217;t, so I bought.<br />
When I looked at inflation in utilities, taxes, food, and the general cost of living i realized my cash was just disappearing- the Government is printing money! Plus you pay tax on the interest on your cash. Dave, smell the coffee- you are being robbed</p>
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