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		<title>By: grey</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/27/mcdoomed/comment-page-4/#comment-20692</link>
		<dc:creator>grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the whole Milton story fascinating, b/c we have a lot of friends who bought their first home there.

That being said I donâ€™t see much of an impact in pricing in Torontoâ€™s market yet. There have been homes for sale asking well over what itâ€™s worth and no one is budging. I am talking worn down 2-bedroom semiâ€™s with street parking that need a serious renovation.

So when are Toronto owners going to come to grips with the market and lower their prices? B/C we have seen the same houses on MLS now for months and their prices arenâ€™t getting any lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the whole Milton story fascinating, b/c we have a lot of friends who bought their first home there.</p>
<p>That being said I donâ€™t see much of an impact in pricing in Torontoâ€™s market yet. There have been homes for sale asking well over what itâ€™s worth and no one is budging. I am talking worn down 2-bedroom semiâ€™s with street parking that need a serious renovation.</p>
<p>So when are Toronto owners going to come to grips with the market and lower their prices? B/C we have seen the same houses on MLS now for months and their prices arenâ€™t getting any lower.</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Barb and Bill! Just on what you were talking about, I saw a Christian extremist on tv-CTS, say &#039;M.Moore, C.Sheehan and the rest of the left  are United in Hate (that&#039;s the title of his book) against the Right, I guess. Not those centre-Liberals though. Just those who hope and work for peace. I can&#039;t remember his name, just a young man. I couldn&#039;t get over the &#039;hate and rage&#039; I felt from him. It&#039;s their fuel, in a sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Barb and Bill! Just on what you were talking about, I saw a Christian extremist on tv-CTS, say &#8216;M.Moore, C.Sheehan and the rest of the left  are United in Hate (that&#8217;s the title of his book) against the Right, I guess. Not those centre-Liberals though. Just those who hope and work for peace. I can&#8217;t remember his name, just a young man. I couldn&#8217;t get over the &#8216;hate and rage&#8217; I felt from him. It&#8217;s their fuel, in a sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill-Muskoka (NAM)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill-Muskoka (NAM)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#162  BARB the proofreader on 03.02.09 at 2:12 am

Barb,

I think Americans DID figure it out in November.  It took eight long years of worldwide embarrassment and violation of the most fundamental of American Constitutional principles by He whose name will no longer be mentioned to bring them to their senses.  The Redumblicans are already seething at the smacking they got and trying every and all things they can think of to get their flock of Sheeple back into the fold under their Mesmerizing Glare.

Limburger (The stench is overwhelming) has been mouthing his hate for a long time.  He is nothing more than a White Supremecist Hate Monger using the tried and true methods of Goebbels.  He has a few key associates like Bill O&#039;Reilly, Ann Coulter, and pretty much the entire Fox News Talking Head collective.

There are lesser ones still promoting the same old rhetoric as well.  Each having their unique area of focus.  For those who listen to them it is like a severe drug addiction.  If ever they got free they would realize how horrid of enslavement mentally and physically (yes, the stress of such diatribe will cause heart attacks and strokes) is.

Logical or rational reasoning with people like them is impossible.  They are Died in The Wool Screeching Narcisists for the extreme Right.  I still like the bumper sticker that says &#039;The Moral Majority Is Neither!&#039;  Short, sweet truth.  Falwell, Swaggert, Roberts, Robertson, and most of the new &#039;evangelical&#039; (should be Evilangel, perhaps another one of those little &#039;edits&#039; the Vatican did centruries ago?) Bible Thumpers have been discredited by the thinking people.

I have some family members too that refuse to open their minds, but they learned long ago I am NOT going to play their game.  I send them information and it is up to them to peruse it.  They live in FUD, and not even a ERT could get them out of it.

Freedom of speech is what we get to practice, but these people exercise their Freedumb of Speech!

I gave up playing Don Quixote long ago.  Canada has their own, but a very few of the same class, like Ezra Levant.  Our PM is slyer than most, but when the flags go UP then we know how to tell the signs, eh?

These people are mentally ill and need to be seen for what they are.  That responsibility is everyone&#039;s to exercise for themself.

If you haven&#039;t read &#039;The Great Awakening&#039; by Jim Wallis, I would suggest doing so.  He details the Funnymentalist Movement and its recent demise in the U.S.

It was/is no different than Al Qaeda and the typical Islamic Jihad mantras, just allegedly Christian by religious choice.  The doctrines they preach cannot be recognized by any true Christian as being true.  But then, religion has always been more popular than real spirituality for the masses.  They like being led.

I prefer to take responsibility for what I believe and know WHY I believe it.  That requires a lot of research, study, and self-examination.  Those efforts are too hard for most people.  Look at the nutbars on Dr. Phil&#039;s show.  Sheesh, these people breed and vote.

I also think we are passing through the end of a horrid age when mental health was considered right up there with the Big Scarlet &#039;A&#039;, evil spirits, etc.  Witch hunts are still alive and well at Fox News.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#162  BARB the proofreader on 03.02.09 at 2:12 am</p>
<p>Barb,</p>
<p>I think Americans DID figure it out in November.  It took eight long years of worldwide embarrassment and violation of the most fundamental of American Constitutional principles by He whose name will no longer be mentioned to bring them to their senses.  The Redumblicans are already seething at the smacking they got and trying every and all things they can think of to get their flock of Sheeple back into the fold under their Mesmerizing Glare.</p>
<p>Limburger (The stench is overwhelming) has been mouthing his hate for a long time.  He is nothing more than a White Supremecist Hate Monger using the tried and true methods of Goebbels.  He has a few key associates like Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Ann Coulter, and pretty much the entire Fox News Talking Head collective.</p>
<p>There are lesser ones still promoting the same old rhetoric as well.  Each having their unique area of focus.  For those who listen to them it is like a severe drug addiction.  If ever they got free they would realize how horrid of enslavement mentally and physically (yes, the stress of such diatribe will cause heart attacks and strokes) is.</p>
<p>Logical or rational reasoning with people like them is impossible.  They are Died in The Wool Screeching Narcisists for the extreme Right.  I still like the bumper sticker that says &#8216;The Moral Majority Is Neither!&#8217;  Short, sweet truth.  Falwell, Swaggert, Roberts, Robertson, and most of the new &#8216;evangelical&#8217; (should be Evilangel, perhaps another one of those little &#8216;edits&#8217; the Vatican did centruries ago?) Bible Thumpers have been discredited by the thinking people.</p>
<p>I have some family members too that refuse to open their minds, but they learned long ago I am NOT going to play their game.  I send them information and it is up to them to peruse it.  They live in FUD, and not even a ERT could get them out of it.</p>
<p>Freedom of speech is what we get to practice, but these people exercise their Freedumb of Speech!</p>
<p>I gave up playing Don Quixote long ago.  Canada has their own, but a very few of the same class, like Ezra Levant.  Our PM is slyer than most, but when the flags go UP then we know how to tell the signs, eh?</p>
<p>These people are mentally ill and need to be seen for what they are.  That responsibility is everyone&#8217;s to exercise for themself.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t read &#8216;The Great Awakening&#8217; by Jim Wallis, I would suggest doing so.  He details the Funnymentalist Movement and its recent demise in the U.S.</p>
<p>It was/is no different than Al Qaeda and the typical Islamic Jihad mantras, just allegedly Christian by religious choice.  The doctrines they preach cannot be recognized by any true Christian as being true.  But then, religion has always been more popular than real spirituality for the masses.  They like being led.</p>
<p>I prefer to take responsibility for what I believe and know WHY I believe it.  That requires a lot of research, study, and self-examination.  Those efforts are too hard for most people.  Look at the nutbars on Dr. Phil&#8217;s show.  Sheesh, these people breed and vote.</p>
<p>I also think we are passing through the end of a horrid age when mental health was considered right up there with the Big Scarlet &#8216;A&#8217;, evil spirits, etc.  Witch hunts are still alive and well at Fox News.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Milton Houses
Yes, Mattamy is offering detached houses for low prices.  They are calling this line SPIRIT.  Reading the boilerplate description, you pick out words like practical, sensible, etc - this tells me that they&#039;ve removed all the finishes that became standard over the last 5 years, and any upgrades will cost you a mint.  They still carry the regular models in similar sq.ft. for more money.
Houses in Milton have another 15-20% to fall from current levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Milton Houses<br />
Yes, Mattamy is offering detached houses for low prices.  They are calling this line SPIRIT.  Reading the boilerplate description, you pick out words like practical, sensible, etc &#8211; this tells me that they&#8217;ve removed all the finishes that became standard over the last 5 years, and any upgrades will cost you a mint.  They still carry the regular models in similar sq.ft. for more money.<br />
Houses in Milton have another 15-20% to fall from current levels.</p>
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