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		<title>By: Sondra</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/05/crumble-in-kelowna/comment-page-3/#comment-17859</link>
		<dc:creator>Sondra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Non plused

Your quote: &quot;And I donâ€™t really care how apathetic the adult voting population is&quot;

Really?  Wow, that is a shame, and part of our political problem.

I wonder what form the parents efforts in responsibility was of the current non-voting public. Note I said parents, as I don&#039;t believe schools must do everything.

Stats Canada , &quot;The voter turnout in 2008 dropped to the lowest percentage of registered voters ever recorded for a national election in Canada.&quot; 

They post the percentage as 59.1% for the 2008 election

http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/historical-turnout.html

Voter turn out for provincial and city/municipal is even lower. 

I wonder how the parenting in the non-voting households was. I wonder if their parents took the time to research with their child, engage their child in what directly effects their everyday life, schooling, laws, economics.  I wonder even if most parents really pay attention to their kids, or enjoy dinner with them. 

I&#039;ve read your opinions, discussed them with some peers, and I still disagree with you. In our house politics is researched and then voted on, that is responsible. You are right, I and my husband are the parents, we make the decisions. Our decision is to include her and educate her in all forms of life decisions. 

You with a small glimmer from the blog information call my relationship with my daughter  &quot;extremely destructive&quot;. That&#039;s very contrary to the feedback given to me by other parents, her friends, her cousins, her school teachers and her tutors.  I can&#039;t help but think you get that from your own life experience. 

Being the age of 18, 19, 40 or 50 doesn&#039;t make anyone responsible,it doesn&#039;t make them more informed, it doesn&#039;t make them wiser, it doesn&#039;t make them educated, it just makes them older.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Non plused</p>
<p>Your quote: &#8220;And I donâ€™t really care how apathetic the adult voting population is&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?  Wow, that is a shame, and part of our political problem.</p>
<p>I wonder what form the parents efforts in responsibility was of the current non-voting public. Note I said parents, as I don&#8217;t believe schools must do everything.</p>
<p>Stats Canada , &#8220;The voter turnout in 2008 dropped to the lowest percentage of registered voters ever recorded for a national election in Canada.&#8221; </p>
<p>They post the percentage as 59.1% for the 2008 election</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/historical-turnout.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/historical-turnout.html</a></p>
<p>Voter turn out for provincial and city/municipal is even lower. </p>
<p>I wonder how the parenting in the non-voting households was. I wonder if their parents took the time to research with their child, engage their child in what directly effects their everyday life, schooling, laws, economics.  I wonder even if most parents really pay attention to their kids, or enjoy dinner with them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read your opinions, discussed them with some peers, and I still disagree with you. In our house politics is researched and then voted on, that is responsible. You are right, I and my husband are the parents, we make the decisions. Our decision is to include her and educate her in all forms of life decisions. </p>
<p>You with a small glimmer from the blog information call my relationship with my daughter  &#8220;extremely destructive&#8221;. That&#8217;s very contrary to the feedback given to me by other parents, her friends, her cousins, her school teachers and her tutors.  I can&#8217;t help but think you get that from your own life experience. </p>
<p>Being the age of 18, 19, 40 or 50 doesn&#8217;t make anyone responsible,it doesn&#8217;t make them more informed, it doesn&#8217;t make them wiser, it doesn&#8217;t make them educated, it just makes them older.</p>
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		<title>By: nonplused</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonplused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#105 nonplused

â€œThe closer to home, the stronger the reactionâ€ â€“ old Greek (modern) proverb.

Thrusting children into a level of responsibility for which they are not yet prepared and for which the law expressly forbids them to undertake, is negligent parenting.

And I donâ€™t really care how apathetic the adult voting population is.  The proper course of action is not to make our young vote at an obviously immature age, but to set a good example by voting ourselves.  An example I might add you are not setting by letting her have your ballot.

You are the parent.  You make the decisions.  When she is 18, if you have done well, she may learn from them.  But by making her the parent now you are both entering in to an extremely destructive relationship that you will later regret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#105 nonplused</p>
<p>â€œThe closer to home, the stronger the reactionâ€ â€“ old Greek (modern) proverb.</p>
<p>Thrusting children into a level of responsibility for which they are not yet prepared and for which the law expressly forbids them to undertake, is negligent parenting.</p>
<p>And I donâ€™t really care how apathetic the adult voting population is.  The proper course of action is not to make our young vote at an obviously immature age, but to set a good example by voting ourselves.  An example I might add you are not setting by letting her have your ballot.</p>
<p>You are the parent.  You make the decisions.  When she is 18, if you have done well, she may learn from them.  But by making her the parent now you are both entering in to an extremely destructive relationship that you will later regret.</p>
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		<title>By: Sondra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sondra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#105  nonplused

Do you know what percentage of people actually vote in the elections, city, provincial, federal? I&#039;d say they&#039;re the irresponsible people, the ones who don&#039;t follow what our leaders are doing to us and our country, and neglect to vote.

It is my responsibility to raise a thoughtful, independent thinking person. We discuss politics, social issues, and track records of people in power at the dinner table, in the car, when we hear political ads on the radio. 

She at the age of 13 is likely more informed than most adults. She at the age of 13 researches what the politicians have actually done, and how they voted.

I think that I am being very responsible, teaching her, and having her have some say about her future by voting. Just because someone is 19 doesn&#039;t mean they care enough to find out anything about the people on the ballot or even attempt to vote, or become good drivers.

Yes she does drive, but on the farm, and she can take corners in the dirt buggy better than most boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#105  nonplused</p>
<p>Do you know what percentage of people actually vote in the elections, city, provincial, federal? I&#8217;d say they&#8217;re the irresponsible people, the ones who don&#8217;t follow what our leaders are doing to us and our country, and neglect to vote.</p>
<p>It is my responsibility to raise a thoughtful, independent thinking person. We discuss politics, social issues, and track records of people in power at the dinner table, in the car, when we hear political ads on the radio. </p>
<p>She at the age of 13 is likely more informed than most adults. She at the age of 13 researches what the politicians have actually done, and how they voted.</p>
<p>I think that I am being very responsible, teaching her, and having her have some say about her future by voting. Just because someone is 19 doesn&#8217;t mean they care enough to find out anything about the people on the ballot or even attempt to vote, or become good drivers.</p>
<p>Yes she does drive, but on the farm, and she can take corners in the dirt buggy better than most boys.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 Dave on 02.05.09 at 12:16 pm i enjoy reading this blog but I have one question which is slightly unrelated, how come all comments and questions are directed at Garth? I mean, he responds to 1% of them.

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Hysterical.  I always think that when I&#039;m reading the comments, like a bunch of puppy dogs panting, &quot;Garth, pant, Garth, pant, Garth, PANT PANT PANT!&quot;

LOLOLOLOLOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 Dave on 02.05.09 at 12:16 pm i enjoy reading this blog but I have one question which is slightly unrelated, how come all comments and questions are directed at Garth? I mean, he responds to 1% of them.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hysterical.  I always think that when I&#8217;m reading the comments, like a bunch of puppy dogs panting, &#8220;Garth, pant, Garth, pant, Garth, PANT PANT PANT!&#8221;</p>
<p>LOLOLOLOLOL</p>
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