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	<description>Book and Weblog - Authored by Garth Turner</description>
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		<title>By: Mr.Doom&#38;Gloom</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/04/scandalous-in-surrey/comment-page-3/#comment-17270</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Doom&#38;Gloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dekethegeek: Nah - wasnt me.  Same name I guess.

Nope, that was my first ever post on the site. Don&#039;t have a PS3 and dont really want one.  Just looking for a nice home.....at a cheap price of course</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dekethegeek: Nah &#8211; wasnt me.  Same name I guess.</p>
<p>Nope, that was my first ever post on the site. Don&#8217;t have a PS3 and dont really want one.  Just looking for a nice home&#8230;..at a cheap price of course</p>
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		<title>By: Winnipeg is No Different</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/04/scandalous-in-surrey/comment-page-3/#comment-17255</link>
		<dc:creator>Winnipeg is No Different</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #74

I saw that article in the print edition today with a new headline: &quot;Winnipeg house sales down, but not price&quot;.  The Wpg Free Press should have slapped a &quot;... yet&quot; at the end of that headline as active listings are up 50% from last year.  Volumes drop, inventory rises and then prices fall.  

In fact, prices have already fallen from the peak.  The average selling price for a residential detached home was $191,000 in January 2009, down from $224,000 in May 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #74</p>
<p>I saw that article in the print edition today with a new headline: &#8220;Winnipeg house sales down, but not price&#8221;.  The Wpg Free Press should have slapped a &#8220;&#8230; yet&#8221; at the end of that headline as active listings are up 50% from last year.  Volumes drop, inventory rises and then prices fall.  </p>
<p>In fact, prices have already fallen from the peak.  The average selling price for a residential detached home was $191,000 in January 2009, down from $224,000 in May 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Bottoms_Up</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/04/scandalous-in-surrey/comment-page-3/#comment-17203</link>
		<dc:creator>Bottoms_Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jelly, Albertans seeing that $234,000 &#039;box&#039; in a shitty neighbourhood as cheap just proves that housing prices out there still have a LONG WAY TO GO  (down).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jelly, Albertans seeing that $234,000 &#8216;box&#8217; in a shitty neighbourhood as cheap just proves that housing prices out there still have a LONG WAY TO GO  (down).</p>
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		<title>By: Bottoms_Up</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/04/scandalous-in-surrey/comment-page-3/#comment-17202</link>
		<dc:creator>Bottoms_Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anxiously,
Prices in that area are going down. Keep waiting. Garth believes the summer could be the right time to buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anxiously,<br />
Prices in that area are going down. Keep waiting. Garth believes the summer could be the right time to buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anxiously Waiting the Housing decline</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/04/scandalous-in-surrey/comment-page-3/#comment-17154</link>
		<dc:creator>Anxiously Waiting the Housing decline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#97

We are not looking for anything huge, just a modest size whether it be a town, semi or detached... it just seems rediculous that townhouses are 375K ++.... we are looking in that Bond Lake , Oak Ridges area.... so hopefully by May/June 2010 we can snap up a deal!!

checkout these... http://www.queensgatehomes.com/manors/index.html

These are detached towns ~  Phase III start at $389,000 for 2100 sq ft.  up to $468,000 for 2400 sq ft.

Thoughts???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#97</p>
<p>We are not looking for anything huge, just a modest size whether it be a town, semi or detached&#8230; it just seems rediculous that townhouses are 375K ++&#8230;. we are looking in that Bond Lake , Oak Ridges area&#8230;. so hopefully by May/June 2010 we can snap up a deal!!</p>
<p>checkout these&#8230; <a href="http://www.queensgatehomes.com/manors/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.queensgatehomes.com/manors/index.html</a></p>
<p>These are detached towns ~  Phase III start at $389,000 for 2100 sq ft.  up to $468,000 for 2400 sq ft.</p>
<p>Thoughts???</p>
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		<title>By: Future Expatriate</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/04/scandalous-in-surrey/comment-page-3/#comment-17140</link>
		<dc:creator>Future Expatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71 ... sorry, it didn&#039;t.

You&#039;re talking about microcosm, while I&#039;m talking about macrocosm.

You are essentially claiming that a worthless asset (the US Dollar) has worth solely because banks are hoarding it and thereby creating a shortage, and that they will continue to do so because if they fail to do so, it will become worthless.

You have essentially described a BUBBLE in the USD. One that will pop just like every other bubble.

I submit to you the game of &quot;Hot Potato&quot; and the inevitable outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71 &#8230; sorry, it didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re talking about microcosm, while I&#8217;m talking about macrocosm.</p>
<p>You are essentially claiming that a worthless asset (the US Dollar) has worth solely because banks are hoarding it and thereby creating a shortage, and that they will continue to do so because if they fail to do so, it will become worthless.</p>
<p>You have essentially described a BUBBLE in the USD. One that will pop just like every other bubble.</p>
<p>I submit to you the game of &#8220;Hot Potato&#8221; and the inevitable outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Anxiously Waiting the Housing decline</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/04/scandalous-in-surrey/comment-page-3/#comment-17132</link>
		<dc:creator>Anxiously Waiting the Housing decline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#97... I don&#039;t want a big home just something modest.   We are currently living in Burlington (rental) and are making the move to Oak Ridges area to be closer to family.  My son starts grade one in Sept 2010 so  we wnat to be settled in that area....  as long as housing goes down so that it&#039;s more affordable I will be happy....  most of those houses are still north of $425,000 +++ .... hopefully they will come down ... I do not want to be a slave to my home.  I don&#039;t care whether it&#039;s a town, semi or detached as long as it&#039;s affordable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#97&#8230; I don&#8217;t want a big home just something modest.   We are currently living in Burlington (rental) and are making the move to Oak Ridges area to be closer to family.  My son starts grade one in Sept 2010 so  we wnat to be settled in that area&#8230;.  as long as housing goes down so that it&#8217;s more affordable I will be happy&#8230;.  most of those houses are still north of $425,000 +++ &#8230;. hopefully they will come down &#8230; I do not want to be a slave to my home.  I don&#8217;t care whether it&#8217;s a town, semi or detached as long as it&#8217;s affordable!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (authentic)</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/02/04/scandalous-in-surrey/comment-page-3/#comment-17116</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike (authentic)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#85 Maurice Troy Lamont on 02.04.09 at 8:09 pm So…house prices are GOING UP in Winnipeg AND Ottawa!! Some housing bust, huh, Garth? LOL!!&quot;

Well Maurice, me thinks you own a property in either of those 2 places and are pumping the market a little. ;)

If you look at Winnipeg, it was very cheap RE, but priced accordingly to employment in Winnipeg (Burns weiner factory, ie, not much good employment there), weather (Winterpeg) and location (middle of no-where). 

Ottawa, well, we can see what homes were cheap there, it&#039;s beside Quebec and covered with politicians.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#85 Maurice Troy Lamont on 02.04.09 at 8:09 pm So…house prices are GOING UP in Winnipeg AND Ottawa!! Some housing bust, huh, Garth? LOL!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Well Maurice, me thinks you own a property in either of those 2 places and are pumping the market a little. <img src='http://www.greaterfool.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you look at Winnipeg, it was very cheap RE, but priced accordingly to employment in Winnipeg (Burns weiner factory, ie, not much good employment there), weather (Winterpeg) and location (middle of no-where). </p>
<p>Ottawa, well, we can see what homes were cheap there, it&#8217;s beside Quebec and covered with politicians.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (authentic)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike (authentic)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gord In Vancouver &quot;Developer sues buyers for backing out on condo pre-sales agreements&quot;

I figured this was going to come down the road at some point as speculators who purchased to flip (and profit to the next greater fool) woke up a realised they are in negative profit territory. 

The developer should sue those who want to illegally break their contract, after all, the developer did build the building. 

Real Estate is a risk investment (sorry if that wasn&#039;t explained to you by your Realtor), it can go up or down. 

I imagine we will see more stories like this as prices keep dropping. 

I wonder if there are simular stories like this in the USA as their prices started falling 18 months before us?

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gord In Vancouver &#8220;Developer sues buyers for backing out on condo pre-sales agreements&#8221;</p>
<p>I figured this was going to come down the road at some point as speculators who purchased to flip (and profit to the next greater fool) woke up a realised they are in negative profit territory. </p>
<p>The developer should sue those who want to illegally break their contract, after all, the developer did build the building. </p>
<p>Real Estate is a risk investment (sorry if that wasn&#8217;t explained to you by your Realtor), it can go up or down. </p>
<p>I imagine we will see more stories like this as prices keep dropping. </p>
<p>I wonder if there are simular stories like this in the USA as their prices started falling 18 months before us?</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Van-zee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van-zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ gord 100.

I walked along west second from Granville Island to Burrard last weekend and was struck by all the business for lease signs contrasted by the exotic car boutiques, very strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ gord 100.</p>
<p>I walked along west second from Granville Island to Burrard last weekend and was struck by all the business for lease signs contrasted by the exotic car boutiques, very strange.</p>
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