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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/01/23/strong-free/comment-page-3/#comment-15852</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calgary Rocks:  Good for you!! You have a zillion jobs and keep the income flowing. You are a good son...you can supplement your mother&#039;s pitiful pension.
Of course, there are thousands of Canadians doing exactly the same thing....helping out their parents, children, siblings whenever they can.
You are not unique. 
You are bitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calgary Rocks:  Good for you!! You have a zillion jobs and keep the income flowing. You are a good son&#8230;you can supplement your mother&#8217;s pitiful pension.<br />
Of course, there are thousands of Canadians doing exactly the same thing&#8230;.helping out their parents, children, siblings whenever they can.<br />
You are not unique.<br />
You are bitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat G</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/01/23/strong-free/comment-page-3/#comment-15721</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all neo-con readers:

Please do yourselves a favour and go back and read TS&#039; comments at #74, 01.24,09.

And, yes, TS,  the Harperites will do anything to distract from the deficit that they helped incur before even beginning to tackle the deficit, so they will do what they considered unethical when they were in opposition and, in fact, would have screamed blue murder if another party did what they are doing now -- do a dance of the seven veils across the country, revealing little bits to tantalize the public. (&quot;dance of the seven veils&quot; idea courtesy of Craig Oliver, CTV). 

When did ethics ever have anything to do with Steven Harper trying to get a majority government?  When was transparency ever an honest intention? Even his fight for power has corrupted his government. It is unimaginable what he would do to us if he actually won more power!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all neo-con readers:</p>
<p>Please do yourselves a favour and go back and read TS&#8217; comments at #74, 01.24,09.</p>
<p>And, yes, TS,  the Harperites will do anything to distract from the deficit that they helped incur before even beginning to tackle the deficit, so they will do what they considered unethical when they were in opposition and, in fact, would have screamed blue murder if another party did what they are doing now &#8212; do a dance of the seven veils across the country, revealing little bits to tantalize the public. (&#8220;dance of the seven veils&#8221; idea courtesy of Craig Oliver, CTV). </p>
<p>When did ethics ever have anything to do with Steven Harper trying to get a majority government?  When was transparency ever an honest intention? Even his fight for power has corrupted his government. It is unimaginable what he would do to us if he actually won more power!</p>
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		<title>By: no fool...</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/01/23/strong-free/comment-page-3/#comment-15716</link>
		<dc:creator>no fool...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we could rant on the conservatives, but then again we could look at the Liberals and then just laugh.
And the NDP....dear lord.  Let&#039;s delay tens of thousands from graduating by failing to put an end to the stupidity at York U.  

At least the Conservatives have the audacity and the brains coupled with gusto to admit it when their policies (i.e. NO DEFICITS) will not work.  The libs would spend us back into the stone ages if they were at the helm.

I say this as a liberal realizing that our leadership has been atrocious for about a decade....actually, maybe more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we could rant on the conservatives, but then again we could look at the Liberals and then just laugh.<br />
And the NDP&#8230;.dear lord.  Let&#8217;s delay tens of thousands from graduating by failing to put an end to the stupidity at York U.  </p>
<p>At least the Conservatives have the audacity and the brains coupled with gusto to admit it when their policies (i.e. NO DEFICITS) will not work.  The libs would spend us back into the stone ages if they were at the helm.</p>
<p>I say this as a liberal realizing that our leadership has been atrocious for about a decade&#8230;.actually, maybe more.</p>
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		<title>By: dotava</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/01/23/strong-free/comment-page-3/#comment-15715</link>
		<dc:creator>dotava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87  Don Bool on 01.24.09 at 4:15 pm

&quot;Harper and his crew are criminals who have swindled citizens out of their hard earned assets. Simple as that.&quot;

RIGHT ON!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#87  Don Bool on 01.24.09 at 4:15 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Harper and his crew are criminals who have swindled citizens out of their hard earned assets. Simple as that.&#8221;</p>
<p>RIGHT ON!!!</p>
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		<title>By: GB</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/01/23/strong-free/comment-page-3/#comment-15693</link>
		<dc:creator>GB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph stated:

&quot;Isn’t it funny there are so many people here making comments with 20/20 vision. The fact is most here who are saying “I told you so” wouldn’t be able to perform any better in running the country.&quot;

While this may be true Ralph, we are not getting paid big sums of money to supposedly be doing that job.

I am pretty certain that this meltdown was well telegraphed and if I&#039;m paying someone huge wads of cash to create policy and provide economic direction....I&#039;d expect better. So should you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph stated:</p>
<p>&#8220;Isn’t it funny there are so many people here making comments with 20/20 vision. The fact is most here who are saying “I told you so” wouldn’t be able to perform any better in running the country.&#8221;</p>
<p>While this may be true Ralph, we are not getting paid big sums of money to supposedly be doing that job.</p>
<p>I am pretty certain that this meltdown was well telegraphed and if I&#8217;m paying someone huge wads of cash to create policy and provide economic direction&#8230;.I&#8217;d expect better. So should you.</p>
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		<title>By: Accremonium</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/01/23/strong-free/comment-page-3/#comment-15682</link>
		<dc:creator>Accremonium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#107  CalgaryRocks on 01.24.09 at 5:53 pm

    ………..im convinced beyond any reasonable doubt your not!………….wow $55 an hour (golly) p.s. hows things going in the oil patch since harper got elected??

    I don’t work in the oil patch. Are you implying that Harper controls the price of oil? Please elaborate on what you mean by:”hows things going in the oil patch since harper got elected?? “

From what can be discerned online and from friends / family, the oil patch is the slowest it has been for more than  a decade, nearly as bad as the days of the Nat. Energy Prog. There are several of the juniors about to file for Chapter 11 and the majors are cutting all spending to the bone, canceling projects/expansions and pulling in their horns like never before. Now ask again just what Harper/Flarhety have done for them lately! He/they are who? Just dump this budget, call an election and see just how much money flows for grease spot adverts! Practically the square root of screw all, I am willing to bet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#107  CalgaryRocks on 01.24.09 at 5:53 pm</p>
<p>    ………..im convinced beyond any reasonable doubt your not!………….wow $55 an hour (golly) p.s. hows things going in the oil patch since harper got elected??</p>
<p>    I don’t work in the oil patch. Are you implying that Harper controls the price of oil? Please elaborate on what you mean by:”hows things going in the oil patch since harper got elected?? “</p>
<p>From what can be discerned online and from friends / family, the oil patch is the slowest it has been for more than  a decade, nearly as bad as the days of the Nat. Energy Prog. There are several of the juniors about to file for Chapter 11 and the majors are cutting all spending to the bone, canceling projects/expansions and pulling in their horns like never before. Now ask again just what Harper/Flarhety have done for them lately! He/they are who? Just dump this budget, call an election and see just how much money flows for grease spot adverts! Practically the square root of screw all, I am willing to bet!</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/01/23/strong-free/comment-page-3/#comment-15675</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it funny there are so many people here making comments with 20/20 vision. The fact is most here who are saying &quot;I told you so&quot; wouldn&#039;t be able to perform any better in running the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it funny there are so many people here making comments with 20/20 vision. The fact is most here who are saying &#8220;I told you so&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t be able to perform any better in running the country.</p>
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		<title>By: TS</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/01/23/strong-free/comment-page-3/#comment-15626</link>
		<dc:creator>TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;rory on 01.24.09 at 8:26 pm To CalgaryRocks and NVA …keep up the good fight …funny and opinionated…

To TS and the bunches that seem a little like creepy far left NDP supporters …why so virulnet …So how is CUPE treating you these days anyway…did you know on avarage that public sector wages and benefits at all levels of Gov’t are 15 to 45% higher than the rest of poor smucks in the private sector…let’s give them more as they were nice to e the other day …whadda say …vote for more …NOT …let us rein in this tiger…common sense rules.&quot;



Rory....NOT an NDP supporter here... and NOT a member of CUPE or any other union. Never have been and never will. Simply trying to play devil&#039;s advocate and show the other side of the issue.

I simply tired of the senseless right wing bashing of the civil service in Canada without any data or substantiation.

In your latest post you claim that public sector wages/benefits are 15% to 45% higher than in the private sector....I assume you are referring to the notion of equal pay for equal work. 

What factual statistics do you have for your 15% to 45% claim? Or, is this just your opinion with a couple of numbers thrown in to make it look legitimate?

Please provide us with web links where we can all read this comparitive analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;rory on 01.24.09 at 8:26 pm To CalgaryRocks and NVA …keep up the good fight …funny and opinionated…</p>
<p>To TS and the bunches that seem a little like creepy far left NDP supporters …why so virulnet …So how is CUPE treating you these days anyway…did you know on avarage that public sector wages and benefits at all levels of Gov’t are 15 to 45% higher than the rest of poor smucks in the private sector…let’s give them more as they were nice to e the other day …whadda say …vote for more …NOT …let us rein in this tiger…common sense rules.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rory&#8230;.NOT an NDP supporter here&#8230; and NOT a member of CUPE or any other union. Never have been and never will. Simply trying to play devil&#8217;s advocate and show the other side of the issue.</p>
<p>I simply tired of the senseless right wing bashing of the civil service in Canada without any data or substantiation.</p>
<p>In your latest post you claim that public sector wages/benefits are 15% to 45% higher than in the private sector&#8230;.I assume you are referring to the notion of equal pay for equal work. </p>
<p>What factual statistics do you have for your 15% to 45% claim? Or, is this just your opinion with a couple of numbers thrown in to make it look legitimate?</p>
<p>Please provide us with web links where we can all read this comparitive analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Curylo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Curylo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@go green:

&quot;Agree - the banks must be getting desperate if they want to do this to their best customers.&quot;

errrmm ... no.

Their best customers -- and, indeed, I actually mean TD specifically here, to make it particularly ironic -- are getting really *quite* remarkable personal attentiveness to keep their money where it is.

If you&#039;re not being bowed and scraped to right now, sorry friend, you have an unsupportedly inflated impression of your bestness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@go green:</p>
<p>&#8220;Agree &#8211; the banks must be getting desperate if they want to do this to their best customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>errrmm &#8230; no.</p>
<p>Their best customers &#8212; and, indeed, I actually mean TD specifically here, to make it particularly ironic &#8212; are getting really *quite* remarkable personal attentiveness to keep their money where it is.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not being bowed and scraped to right now, sorry friend, you have an unsupportedly inflated impression of your bestness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bank of Canada governor Carney comes off as a used car salesman.  I personally wouldn&#039;t trust this guy to take out the garbage.  Yet here is, Canada&#039;s chief banker, trying to calm panic and instill confidence.  Either they just don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot;, or the simply don&#039;t want to.  I think David Dodge should have stayed at the helm, except perhaps Dodge knew what was coming and wanted to get the hell out, in which case I don&#039;t entirely blame him.   Rebound by year&#039;s end?  Yeah, and I&#039;m going to with the 6/49 tonight. 

BS.

-Bruce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bank of Canada governor Carney comes off as a used car salesman.  I personally wouldn&#8217;t trust this guy to take out the garbage.  Yet here is, Canada&#8217;s chief banker, trying to calm panic and instill confidence.  Either they just don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221;, or the simply don&#8217;t want to.  I think David Dodge should have stayed at the helm, except perhaps Dodge knew what was coming and wanted to get the hell out, in which case I don&#8217;t entirely blame him.   Rebound by year&#8217;s end?  Yeah, and I&#8217;m going to with the 6/49 tonight. </p>
<p>BS.</p>
<p>-Bruce</p>
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