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	<title>Comments on: The frost of Spring</title>
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		<title>By: Milorad</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2008/05/24/the-frost-of-spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1476</link>
		<dc:creator>Milorad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 07:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again one more statistic data:
For example if you buy now house for 400K and you put 100k down,with  current interest 4.5% will be $1750 per month or if you buy the same house at November 2009 for 340k and again you put 100k down,interest will be at least 7% so again you will pay $ 1780 per month.
Welcome to Real Estate Market in Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again one more statistic data:<br />
For example if you buy now house for 400K and you put 100k down,with  current interest 4.5% will be $1750 per month or if you buy the same house at November 2009 for 340k and again you put 100k down,interest will be at least 7% so again you will pay $ 1780 per month.<br />
Welcome to Real Estate Market in Canada</p>
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		<title>By: Milorad</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2008/05/24/the-frost-of-spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1475</link>
		<dc:creator>Milorad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 07:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reports from Toronto Real Estate Board in 2008:
Mid-May 2008  decreased resales  12%
April        2008  decreased resales   7.3%
March     2008  decreased resales   22.2%
February2008  decreased resales  11.2%
January  2008  decreased resales    2.1%
Inventory listings increased more than 11%, and
&quot;logic&quot; trend again prizes still up 6% and alredy
hit over $ 400 000 per resale unit.
From last January 2007 to December 2007 average prize had jumped up more than $ 41 000,and prize is still going up,when resale is down,inventory is up?
Comments from presidents of TREB and CREA:
Currently  buyers have more choises (Rip off choises)?
I don&#039;t have any choise because the prize is too,too high and I&#039;m desparete to find something cheaper but
RE Mafia and Banks still not released any sign that we can expected lower and affordablle prize. The prize correction will be at September 2009 but if they drop the prize for 10 to 20 k and until 2009 the prize will jump again 40K, so will be sellers market forever..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reports from Toronto Real Estate Board in 2008:<br />
Mid-May 2008  decreased resales  12%<br />
April        2008  decreased resales   7.3%<br />
March     2008  decreased resales   22.2%<br />
February2008  decreased resales  11.2%<br />
January  2008  decreased resales    2.1%<br />
Inventory listings increased more than 11%, and<br />
&#8220;logic&#8221; trend again prizes still up 6% and alredy<br />
hit over $ 400 000 per resale unit.<br />
From last January 2007 to December 2007 average prize had jumped up more than $ 41 000,and prize is still going up,when resale is down,inventory is up?<br />
Comments from presidents of TREB and CREA:<br />
Currently  buyers have more choises (Rip off choises)?<br />
I don&#8217;t have any choise because the prize is too,too high and I&#8217;m desparete to find something cheaper but<br />
RE Mafia and Banks still not released any sign that we can expected lower and affordablle prize. The prize correction will be at September 2009 but if they drop the prize for 10 to 20 k and until 2009 the prize will jump again 40K, so will be sellers market forever..</p>
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		<title>By: Edumacated</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2008/05/24/the-frost-of-spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1468</link>
		<dc:creator>Edumacated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking.  With gas prices approaching $1.30 and further increasing into the future, wouldn&#039;t properties in Toronto near subway stations hold their value?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking.  With gas prices approaching $1.30 and further increasing into the future, wouldn&#8217;t properties in Toronto near subway stations hold their value?</p>
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		<title>By: vultur</title>
		<link>http://www.greaterfool.ca/2008/05/24/the-frost-of-spring/comment-page-1/#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>vultur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic to learn of your success!  

I am quite opened minded Sour.  Consider that boasting about your wealth is not a very productive use of it.  Try and put it to some good use that doesn&#039;t involve seeking to put down others who haven&#039;t been as fortunate as yourself.   Isn&#039;t that the only point of boasting?  Does any good really come to you or anyone when you boast?  Think about it please.

I myself do own real estate assets.  I think that real estate is a great asset class to invest in as it returns steady cash flow provided it is acquired at a fair price.  Not many assets provide reliable cash flow these days.  Also, when you own real estate directly you are captain of your ship and can carefully choose how to position your property to meet the market demand.  You are better able to control your investment than say if you buy a bundle of Apple stock.

The topic here in probably more geared to residential real estate.  I agree that a person should never put themselves in a position where they are stretched to own a home.  If you find yourself looking down the barrel of a loaded mortgage that you may have trouble servicing then definitely consider holding off on that purchase.  At the same time, however, if you can afford it and intend to reside in your home for a long period of time why hold off  on a purchase?  It&#039;s not really an investment after all, it is your home, your sanctuary and your family&#039;s nest.  There are numerous intangible benefits associated with home ownership that transcend the basic equation of determining whether it&#039;s cheaper or more costly than renting.  If you timeline is 10+ years then it&#039;s hard to imagine that you&#039;ll be looking at a return much less than inflation and if you carefully amortize your debt you will have been able to create a nice nest egg for retirement.  The fundamentals still exist, but again, don&#039;t stretch yourself to the point where you can&#039;t sleep at night to get into the market.  There are plenty of desirable rental options in most major markets where you can rest until you feel more prepared to dive in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic to learn of your success!  </p>
<p>I am quite opened minded Sour.  Consider that boasting about your wealth is not a very productive use of it.  Try and put it to some good use that doesn&#8217;t involve seeking to put down others who haven&#8217;t been as fortunate as yourself.   Isn&#8217;t that the only point of boasting?  Does any good really come to you or anyone when you boast?  Think about it please.</p>
<p>I myself do own real estate assets.  I think that real estate is a great asset class to invest in as it returns steady cash flow provided it is acquired at a fair price.  Not many assets provide reliable cash flow these days.  Also, when you own real estate directly you are captain of your ship and can carefully choose how to position your property to meet the market demand.  You are better able to control your investment than say if you buy a bundle of Apple stock.</p>
<p>The topic here in probably more geared to residential real estate.  I agree that a person should never put themselves in a position where they are stretched to own a home.  If you find yourself looking down the barrel of a loaded mortgage that you may have trouble servicing then definitely consider holding off on that purchase.  At the same time, however, if you can afford it and intend to reside in your home for a long period of time why hold off  on a purchase?  It&#8217;s not really an investment after all, it is your home, your sanctuary and your family&#8217;s nest.  There are numerous intangible benefits associated with home ownership that transcend the basic equation of determining whether it&#8217;s cheaper or more costly than renting.  If you timeline is 10+ years then it&#8217;s hard to imagine that you&#8217;ll be looking at a return much less than inflation and if you carefully amortize your debt you will have been able to create a nice nest egg for retirement.  The fundamentals still exist, but again, don&#8217;t stretch yourself to the point where you can&#8217;t sleep at night to get into the market.  There are plenty of desirable rental options in most major markets where you can rest until you feel more prepared to dive in.</p>
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